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Welcome to the California Public Utilities Commission

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voting meeting on this day, Thursday, June 20th, 2024

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Today's call is being recorded. If you object, you

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may disconnect. President Reynolds. You may begin.

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Good morning and welcome to the California Public Utilities

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Commission voting meeting. I'm calling this meeting

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of June 2020 24 public agenda number 3547. To order

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we need to start by establishing a quorum agenda. Clerk

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Could you please call the roll?

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Yeah, Commissioner Douglas,

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I'm here and I wanted to say I'm participating remotely

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today and I do not have anybody else in the room with

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me. Thank you, Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner

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Hal here, President Alice Reynolds here. We have a

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quorum and today we are meeting in at the city council

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chambers in San Luis Obispo. I did want to start by

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thanking the city council for welcoming us here and

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for the use of their facilities. It's really great

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to be here in San Luis Obispo on a beautiful day. Um

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And now for a few housekeeping matters that I wanted

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to start with. Uh this meeting is being live streamed

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speakers speak clearly and slowly to allow for interpretation

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when we get to the public comment portion of today's

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agenda. Um Please note that if there are many callers

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the wait to speak may be long if you encounter difficulty

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calling into the public telephone line. Please email

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of you who are not able to provide oral public comments

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at today's voting meeting or for those who would like

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to provide more lengthy comments, you may submit written

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comments, written comments can be sent to us in two

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ways. One via an online form found on each proceedings

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online docket card or two directly to our public advisor's

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office. And the email is public dot advisor at CPUC

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dot C a.gov. For more information about writing public

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comments, please contact our public advisor's office

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I'm gonna read the email one more time. Public advisor

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at CPUC dot C a.gov or you may call 18668498390. You

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can also visit our website and click on the make a

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comment icon. Uh Before we uh go into the public comment

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period, I did want to um greet everyone here today

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and welcome you to the meeting. Um and also wanted

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to note that yesterday was Juneteenth and this month

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June is Pride month and I feel it would be remiss if

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I didn't take the opportunity to highlight uh the ongoing

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importance of making public decisions that reflect

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the values of justice and inclusion.

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It's already been over 100 and 50 years since the Union

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General Gordon Granger led the US troops down to Galveston

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Texas to announce the end of the civil war. And that

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means that it's been nearly 16 decades since the insidious

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institution of slavery was officially brought to an

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end. And we began to call for absolute equality. Yet

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today, over 150 years later, that vision of absolute

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equality remains far from complete. And likewise, when

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we observe Pride Month, we are called and encouraged

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to continue to confront oppression and intolerance

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to ensure that all are safe and welcomed in our communities

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But this is part of an ongoing pro process, the struggles

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and stories and voices of Black Americans, lesbian

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gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex and AEX

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J communities must be recognized and acknowledged and

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heard. And so as we make our decisions on our agenda

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today, let us remember the gift that is our remarkable

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diversity and let us strive to ensure that our decisions

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continue to promote the values of justice and inclusion

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for all Californians. The CPUC stands proudly with

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Black Americans, people of color LGBT Q plus communities

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and their loved ones and allies throughout the state

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across the country and all around the world.

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So with that, we're going to go to public comment.

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Um Just a, a few additional instructions uh for folks

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here in the room, um you will be taken first and when

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I call your name, you'll come up to the podium here

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and followed by public commenters on the telephone

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line. So if you're attending in person again, don't

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forget to add your name to the table. Um and uh add

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your name to the list at the table outside the doors

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And if you'd like to make a comment by telephone and

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you've already dialed into the public comment telephone

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line, please press star one and unmute your phone.

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Um, note that the public can make comments, addressing

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items on the consent and regular agenda as well as

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items not on today's agenda. CPUC rules do not allow

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for parties to proceedings to speak about open proceedings

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All speakers will have one minute to speak and you'll

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hear a bell sound when your time is up. Please be mindful

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of other speakers waiting to speak and keep to your

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allotted time. And as a reminder, please speak clearly

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and slowly to accommodate Spanish interpreters. So

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with that guidance in mind, I'd like to welcome today's

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speakers and I will start with the in-person speakers

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The first speaker is Ray Mueller.

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Good morning. My name is Ray Mueller. I am a supervisor

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in San Mateo County district three, but I'm speaking

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in my individual capacity today. I just wanted to go

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ahead and thank uh thank the commission. Thank the

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magistrate uh for his ruling on the AT&T Ker application

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There are residents both in the rural areas and urban

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areas of San Mateo County that rely on that ker service

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specifically in power outages in urban areas. Individuals

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with access and functional needs who have to be able

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to reach out for help uh during local outages and in

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rural areas where we have tremendous uh connectivity

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issues on the coast and power outages. Sometimes lasting

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weeks. I very much appreciate the fact that this side

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has been moved consent and, and that the magistrate

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issued the opinion. They did. Thank you. Thank you

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Our next speaker is Bruce Severance.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak. Did I hear

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you correctly? It's one minute.

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It is wonderful. Ok. Yeah, I'm a regulatory compliance

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engineer and um a member of the Diablo Canyon Decommissioning

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panel and I'm speaking here individually today. Um

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I wanted to bring the CP CS attention to the fact that

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there's been a long history of embrittlement of uh

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reactor vessel on unit one at Diablo Canyon that was

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first documented as early as 1987. It's been recognized

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by the NRC as being among the top four most emb brittle

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reactors in the United States and continues to have

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that status today. Um The um means by which um PG and

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E is claiming compliance with very specific mathematical

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equations and procedures that the NRC requires for

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screening embrittlement of limiting uh materials is

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highly questionable. They're currently doing this under

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their current license application. Um I believe in

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a manner that's inconsistent with NRC regulations and

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I'm going to be sending you a 10 page white paper on

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this topic. Uh I've done over 5000 pages of research

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on NRC documents have worked directly with physicists

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who are well known in this field and I, I don't believe

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this is imaginary. Um And I, I'm very concerned that

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we need to do additional embrittlement testing. It

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would cost about a million dollars to do that. We're

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considering a $1.4 billion investment in the reactor

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It seems to me a very clear cost benefit to consider

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the additional safety testing. PG and E claims that

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they are exempt from requiring. Um I'll be sending

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you a white paper on this topic. I appreciate your

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giving it notice. Thank you. Thank you very much. Our

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next speaker is Marty Brown.

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Good morning and thank you for being here. My name

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is Marty Brown and since 1972 I have lived in Atascadero

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I speak to you as a rate payer to PG and E

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and a taxpayer to the state of California. According

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to 2023 California Resources code section 25548 D.

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With regard to Diablo Canyon Power Plant. It is the

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intent of the legislature that the extension of the

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Diablo Canyon Power Plant benefit California's electric

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customers. And if those benefits fail to materialize

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or cost to operate, the plan increase significantly

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as determined by the Public Utilities Commission, the

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state will plan for an earlier Decommissioning date

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that also safeguards electrical reliability in the

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state. According to Senator Ben Allen on the state

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budget committee, when questioning the release of another

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$400 million to keep diablo operating until 2029 2030

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Battery technology has already exceeded the output

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of energy provided by PG and E. This is our money and

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there is no commitment for repayment of the $1.4 billion

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that PG and E has already been given, invest this money

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in already proven renewables without the nuclear risks

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and waste responsibilities that our future generations

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will inherit. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Our

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next speaker is Linda She Seeley. Excuse me.

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Good morning. I'm Linda Seeley. Thank you so much for

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coming here. Um I wanna talk to tell you two things

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Number one this afternoon at 515, uh world renowned

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uh metals expert will be te will be um giving a presentation

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at the Diablo Canyon Independent Safety Committee.

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Your meeting is over before that and I encourage all

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of you to attend that meeting in Avila Beach. If you

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can't do it in person, please attend uh remotely tomorrow

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at one P MA. Uh Another extraordinary expert, Doctor

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Peter Bird will be talking to the Independent Safety

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Committee about um PG and es flawed uh seismic studies

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um about the uh the continuation of Diablo Canyon's

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license.

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We live here, we are accepting or we have been given

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the burden of of storing highly radioactive nuclear

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waste for the next um 1000 years. I hope that you can

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use your good judgment and understand that Diablo Canyon

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should be closed at its appointed time. Thank you.

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Thank you. Our next speaker is George Hanson.

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Hi, I'm George Hansen from Grande. Thank you for hearing

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us and we appreciate the job that you do. Let's talk

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about offshore wind. The CPUC has committed to building

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4.5 gigawatts of um offshore wind and the Morro Bay

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Wind area will produce three of those gigawatts. There

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is local opposition producing some misinformation about

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wildlife safety. But if we look to re verifiable research

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that's being done by the Board of um Offshore Energy

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Management and two successes at the South Fork Wind

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Farm off um Long Island and to acoustic studies being

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done at Duke University and to um studies demonstrating

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the safety to seabirds at the um extensive um offshore

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wind farms um off the coast of England. Um These projects

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should be done with um consideration for wildlife safety

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and they can be done with consideration for wildlife

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safety. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Sherry

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Lewis.

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Hello, I am Sherry Lewis. I've lived in San Luis Obispo

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for over 50 years. Um I object to the CPUC allowing

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PG and E to spend all of its extra money and money

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that comes from the ratepayers and also taxpayers of

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California in order to keep Diablo Canyon nuclear power

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plant running for another 5 to 20 years. I think it's

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a big mistake. I think that money is not well spent

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because we have enough. We will have enough uh good

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old uh green energy to keep the lights on in California

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And we don't need uh the nuclear power plant. Also

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It is dangerous because of the seismic activity that

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is becoming known now that there are faults under the

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plant that are thrust faults that are more dangerous

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for surface structures than side to side ones. And

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um uh the final thing I want to say is why are

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you here? I mean, we didn't know that you were here

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that you were coming here and even the engagement panel

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was not told that you were coming here. And this is

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a big deal that you're here and I wish it had been

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more advertised than it was. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Our next speaker is Don Gy.

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Good morning. I'm a resident of San Luis Obispo. Um

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I'm a fan of Project Drawdown. It's a nonprofit that

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advances science based climate solutions. According

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to project drawdown, wind power plays a large and essential

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role in a low carbon future. Uh Wind power does not

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require mining or drilling for fuel. Its costs are

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therefore not susceptible to fluctuations in fossil

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fuel prices. Furthermore, offshore wind is more consistent

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than onshore wind or solar power. Therefore, it helps

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compensate for the intermittent nature of these power

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sources. Scientific monitoring, the environmental as

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uh impacts of offshore wind is robust and ongoing.

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According to the Pacific Coast, offshore wind environmental

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projects research project, they have 120 scientific

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research projects relevant to the future of offshore

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wind on our Pacific coast. There are some of the reasons

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why um the San Luis Bis Climate Coalition, the San

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Luis Bis County Citizen Climate Education, of which

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I'm a part of their chapter, the local chapter of the

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Sierra Club, the Merle Coast Audubon Society and Surf

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rider all support offshore wind development. Thank

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you very much. Thank you. Our next speaker is Jim d'antona

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Good morning, Jim d'antona, president and CEO for the

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San Luis Obispo Chamber of Commerce. Uh The county's

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uh largest and oldest voice for business on the central

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coast. So uh unlike my previous speakers, welcome to

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slow. Thank you for being here. I know the tremendous

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impact that it is to come down here. We are so excited

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to have you here because the central coast uh will

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be um a hub of energy production uh that helps make

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a stable grid, uh a green grid um through the safe

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extensions happening at Diablo Count uh Kenyon power

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plant, um offshore wind opportunities and battery storage

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All of those pieces coming together here on the central

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coast. We're excited especially uh about the offshore

00:19:09.049 --> 00:19:15.299
wind opportunity. It's a once in a generation uh opportunity

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to really look at um creating a grid reliable and producing

00:19:22.868 --> 00:19:26.348
green energy. Um We look forward to the opportunity

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for our community and the education jobs um and innovation

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that can come from our colleges and universities. Um

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We hope that you'll be able to help provide a little

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clarity and certainty around this process as they go

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to move forward and look at how this will eventually

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play out. Uh over the long term. It's definitely been

00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.848
more than a minute. So thank you for your time. Thank

00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.818
you. Uh That is the end of my list of speakers, but

00:19:54.828 --> 00:19:57.068
I will ask if there's anyone else in the room who would

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like to make a public comment but wasn't able to sign

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up. Ok. We have one more speaker here in the room,

00:20:09.309 --> 00:20:13.890
Kathy De Perry. Um I wish you guys had advertised this

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better um and made it at a time that working people

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could come and speak because there might have been

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a lot more people here if they knew about it and they

00:20:22.059 --> 00:20:25.259
weren't at work. Um I've been a resident here for many

00:20:25.269 --> 00:20:29.890
years and I've opposed the nuclear power plant and

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I don't think that the puc should be supporting the

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extension of this power plant when radioactive waste

00:20:38.209 --> 00:20:41.140
is being stored on our site. Maybe if every one of

00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:45.239
you guys took a barrel home and stored it in your backyard

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to be an inheritance for your Children, you might think

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twice about making the decision that would continue

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uh not green uh energy. If maybe if we conserved a

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little bit more, we wouldn't have to keep building

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power plants. Thank you.

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Thank you and thank you. To all of the speakers today

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We appreciate your attendance here and um feel free

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to talk to our public advisors about additional opportunities

00:21:12.489 --> 00:21:15.989
for public comment. We do have more opportunities um

00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.828
to hear from folks so I really appreciate everybody's

00:21:18.838 --> 00:21:22.568
time today. Um We're now going to go to uh speakers

00:21:22.578 --> 00:21:24.848
on the public comment telephone line. So I'll turn

00:21:24.858 --> 00:21:28.318
to the operator operator.

00:21:28.318 --> 00:21:30.838
Thank you. The public comment, telephone telephone

00:21:30.848 --> 00:21:34.039
line is now open as a reminder for those on the phone

00:21:34.049 --> 00:21:36.779
If you wish to speak during the public comment period

00:21:36.789 --> 00:21:40.420
please unmute your phone. Press star one and record

00:21:40.430 --> 00:21:43.500
your first and last name slowly and clearly when prompted

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Our first caller is Judy Skull. You may go ahead. Hi

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Um Timing is important variable. When climbing mount

00:21:52.009 --> 00:21:54.759
Everest climbers must begin, there is sent on time

00:21:54.769 --> 00:21:57.739
and must observe strict turn about time. If they don't

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reach the summit by 2 p.m. they must turn around or

00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.029
the afternoon. Blizzards and early darkness will bring

00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.519
certain death. Despite this knowledge, many climbers

00:22:06.529 --> 00:22:09.108
continue to the summit and never make it home alive

00:22:09.118 --> 00:22:11.712
Christoph as an organizational experts states that

00:22:11.722 --> 00:22:14.511
we can be lured into destruction, the more we fixate

00:22:14.521 --> 00:22:17.892
on a goal and make it part of our identity. The telecommunication

00:22:17.902 --> 00:22:21.333
industry has unfairly influenced the FCC and individual

00:22:21.343 --> 00:22:25.152
states puc as it seeks to discontinue the copper landline

00:22:25.162 --> 00:22:27.972
phone. This is despite the high evidence of cancer

00:22:27.982 --> 00:22:32.515
diabetes, mental health illness, and ef and disability

00:22:32.526 --> 00:22:35.265
from cell phones and computers. The surgeon general

00:22:35.276 --> 00:22:38.316
just ordered a warning label on social media. The same

00:22:38.326 --> 00:22:42.115
label that's maintained on a uh mandated on a pack

00:22:42.125 --> 00:22:45.336
of cigarettes AT&T itself told the public to use your

00:22:45.345 --> 00:22:48.984
landline. Once 10,000 cell phones went down. Capitalism

00:22:48.994 --> 00:22:52.036
has morphed into rampant greed. According to Bloomberg

00:22:52.046 --> 00:22:56.939
a covered a source of easy wealth from traditional

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landline phones. 800 metric tons of copper become $7

00:23:01.390 --> 00:23:04.568
billion at today's prices. How much money has seeped

00:23:04.578 --> 00:23:07.789
into the pockets of the CPUC at and T has shown its

00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.259
hand before it knows how to successfully influence

00:23:10.269 --> 00:23:13.430
those in power. It's five minutes to two. Is the CPUC

00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.000
going to turn around and start its descent and do what

00:23:16.009 --> 00:23:19.259
is right for the public and then judge gly gola decision

00:23:19.269 --> 00:23:22.529
to include the continuation of at and TS copper landline

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Thank you. Thank you operator. Next call, please.

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Our next caller is Peter Warfield in San Francisco

00:23:32.250 --> 00:23:35.348
You may go ahead. Your line is open.

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Thank you. I'm calling regarding AT&T S to oppose AT&T

00:23:40.390 --> 00:23:43.739
pulling out of landline service. There are three real

00:23:43.750 --> 00:23:47.250
main main reasons. One is privacy, another is that

00:23:47.259 --> 00:23:50.680
reception is extremely spotty even in my own building

00:23:50.689 --> 00:23:53.489
in the center of San Francisco near Golden Gate Park

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Uh The quality is unequaled with a landline compared

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with the uh drops and the often poor quality of cell

00:24:04.809 --> 00:24:07.489
phones. There's simply no comparison in the service

00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:11.509
with in that regard. Um With respect to privacy, I

00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.239
guess that includes a question. It's my understanding

00:24:14.250 --> 00:24:17.209
that there were very strong privacy and still are privacy

00:24:17.219 --> 00:24:22.299
guarantees with landlines, they can't be uh intruded

00:24:22.309 --> 00:24:27.449
upon a government uh intrusion uh has to be provided

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A search would, would need to be done on a judge's

00:24:31.229 --> 00:24:35.098
order in a court, a court order on signature of a judge

00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:43.598
regarding a specific crime, uh uh what is to

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and so that kind of thing does not exist with cell

00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:51.059
phones at all. There's also uh the complexity of cell

00:24:51.068 --> 00:24:56.000
phone, uh connection, cell phone, uh receivers and

00:24:56.009 --> 00:25:00.039
senders. Uh The whole operation is way more complicated

00:25:00.049 --> 00:25:05.309
for people and that I think will also the costs unregulated

00:25:05.318 --> 00:25:08.799
uh in the way that the regulated monopoly is, I think

00:25:08.809 --> 00:25:11.920
that would especially hurt the vulnerable populations

00:25:11.930 --> 00:25:16.108
the poorest oldest disabled English as a second language

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and so on. Uh And for those reasons, I think, uh please

00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.759
don't allow PGE to pull out of its heretofore very

00:25:24.769 --> 00:25:27.868
profitable, regulated monopoly that it was given by

00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:31.828
the public sphere. Uh Maybe you can answer whether

00:25:31.838 --> 00:25:35.559
the privacy protections on landlines still exist as

00:25:35.568 --> 00:25:39.358
they did before. Thank you very much. Thank you, operator

00:25:39.368 --> 00:25:43.140
Next caller, please.

00:25:43.140 --> 00:25:45.680
Thank you. Our next caller is Karen Hudson. You may

00:25:45.689 --> 00:25:50.979
go ahead. Your line is open.

00:25:50.979 --> 00:25:54.838
Hi, this is Karen Hudson. I'm calling in support of

00:25:54.848 --> 00:25:59.588
Judge Thomas Guo's proposal to dismiss AT&T s application

00:25:59.789 --> 00:26:03.489
regarding copper landline when the electricity went

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:06.068
out in our neighborhood. This week, those without copper

00:26:06.078 --> 00:26:09.209
landlines lost their phone usage and couldn't call

00:26:09.219 --> 00:26:13.088
out in case of an emergency. My husband has aphasia

00:26:13.229 --> 00:26:17.549
and his cell phone is too complicated for him to use

00:26:18.608 --> 00:26:21.779
I am EMF sensitive and get pains in my head around

00:26:21.789 --> 00:26:26.640
cell phones. We need copper landlines. Please allow

00:26:26.650 --> 00:26:30.890
us to keep them support Judge Gogo's proposal to dismiss

00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:35.608
att and s proposal to get rid of them. Thank you. Thank

00:26:35.618 --> 00:26:39.989
you operator. Next caller, please.

00:26:39.989 --> 00:26:45.699
Our next caller is Ray Morris. You may go ahead.

00:26:45.699 --> 00:26:49.029
Hi, this is actually Greg Morris of the Green Power

00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:53.828
Institute. Um I'm calling in regards to the intervenor

00:26:53.838 --> 00:26:59.009
compensation program. I've been associated with the

00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:04.539
program for uh 20 years or more and I've heard it repeatedly

00:27:04.549 --> 00:27:08.920
praised and its value lauded by the commissioners by

00:27:08.930 --> 00:27:14.279
the A LJS uh and even occasionally by regulated utilities

00:27:14.868 --> 00:27:18.910
but I'm calling in today, commissioners and I forgot

00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.930
to greet you. Uh Pleased to be speaking to you. I'm

00:27:22.939 --> 00:27:27.289
calling in today because there's a growing storm brewing

00:27:27.410 --> 00:27:31.500
in the ICOM program. You can see it on today's agenda

00:27:31.509 --> 00:27:36.818
for example. Uh There are 11 ICOM items and five of

00:27:36.828 --> 00:27:41.160
them have been held. Uh I've never seen anything like

00:27:41.170 --> 00:27:46.930
that before. Uh There have been various, I'm representing

00:27:46.939 --> 00:27:50.259
only my own Green Power Institute today, but there

00:27:50.269 --> 00:27:55.670
have been lots of discussions, interveners in any case

00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.318
there's been an, an appalling lack of transparency

00:28:00.578 --> 00:28:05.000
Uh No announcement of impending changes, no public

00:28:05.009 --> 00:28:11.039
input, no a and actions being applied retroactively

00:28:11.049 --> 00:28:15.140
So there's been discussions of having a meeting. I

00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:20.039
want to in my closing seconds here. Uh Urge you to

00:28:20.049 --> 00:28:23.219
have that meeting as soon as possible. There's a lot

00:28:23.500 --> 00:28:31.439
of discontent brewing and it really needs uh a hearing

00:28:31.459 --> 00:28:35.618
Thank you very much. Thank you, operator. Next caller

00:28:35.630 --> 00:28:38.828
please.

00:28:38.828 --> 00:28:41.509
Thank you. Our next caller is Constance Anderson. You

00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.358
may go ahead.

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Uh Hello. Um Thank you very much for the opportunity

00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:51.969
to make a public comment about AT&T status of the carrier

00:28:51.979 --> 00:28:55.939
Last resort, an item on the consent calendar today

00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:59.858
the proposed decision does not go nearly far enough

00:28:59.868 --> 00:29:03.549
in my opinion because it doesn't require AT&T to continue

00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.818
providing copper landlines. They could continue providing

00:29:07.828 --> 00:29:12.848
other things like uh VO IP um which does not work in

00:29:12.858 --> 00:29:17.299
a long power outage. Um and that fact alone should

00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:21.809
compel you to amend the decision. Um I represent people

00:29:21.818 --> 00:29:25.969
who have severe electrical sensitivity. I cannot use

00:29:25.979 --> 00:29:29.500
a cell phone. Our household does not have a cell phone

00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:33.019
as a result. My 89 year old mom and I could easily

00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:35.709
end up with no phone service at all in a long power

00:29:35.719 --> 00:29:38.719
outage. The decision you make today on this issue will

00:29:38.729 --> 00:29:42.588
likely have life or death consequences for many people

00:29:42.930 --> 00:29:46.049
including people with disabilities, elderly, those

00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:49.949
who live in high fire hazard zones. The fact that this

00:29:51.578 --> 00:29:55.769
the consent calendar is a travesty. If you really respect

00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:58.059
the values of justice and inclusion for all, you will

00:29:58.068 --> 00:30:01.140
take this decision off the consent calendar and give

00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:04.209
it the attention and analysis it deserves. Thank you

00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:09.868
Thank you operator. Next caller, please.

00:30:09.868 --> 00:30:12.799
Our next caller is Richard Harkness. You may go ahead

00:30:13.900 --> 00:30:17.170
Uh My name is Rich Harkness. I'm retired from a career

00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:19.719
in strategic and new business planning at Stanford

00:30:19.729 --> 00:30:23.660
Research Institute, IBM and Boeing. Uh This uh regards

00:30:23.670 --> 00:30:27.239
your community solar uh activities right now in May

00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:30.118
I sent a detailed white paper to the public advisor's

00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:33.539
office describing an alternative to rooftop solar.

00:30:33.608 --> 00:30:36.078
I asked that it be forwarded to your chairperson and

00:30:36.088 --> 00:30:39.269
other relevant staff and I hope you commissioners will

00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.209
read the executive summary. Here's my one minute summary

00:30:43.219 --> 00:30:45.930
After writing a book about global warming, I focused

00:30:45.939 --> 00:30:48.989
on solar and found that it's about six times cheaper

00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.549
in California to generate power in large utility scale

00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:57.140
solar farms than with rooftop arrays. Very few people

00:30:57.150 --> 00:31:00.059
know the difference is so large but to exploit it,

00:31:00.068 --> 00:31:03.118
I evaluated a scenario where homeowners and renters

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:06.559
could purchase solar panels in utility solar farms

00:31:06.568 --> 00:31:09.500
and have the energy they produce exported into the

00:31:09.509 --> 00:31:13.059
grid where it would offset that used at home. I called

00:31:13.068 --> 00:31:17.219
this idea, remote solar. I estimated the remote solar

00:31:17.229 --> 00:31:19.959
system would already

00:31:19.959 --> 00:31:24.269
$4000 back just over three years and have an ro I of

00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:28.318
about 30%. So it would provide a large new and voluntary

00:31:28.328 --> 00:31:31.779
source of funding for solar and help achieve California's

00:31:31.789 --> 00:31:34.680
renewable energy goals better than the types of community

00:31:34.689 --> 00:31:37.838
solar that have been proposed for so far and it would

00:31:37.848 --> 00:31:40.500
require no government investment or cost shifting.

00:31:40.828 --> 00:31:43.269
So I'm not an official party to these proceedings,

00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.858
but I urge the public utility commission to seriously

00:31:46.868 --> 00:31:50.868
evaluate remote solar and ask the proponents of community

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.049
solar to estimate the dollar cost and benefits to their

00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:57.250
customers. So they can, can be compared with those

00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:00.848
in my white paper. Uh uh May I have another minute

00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:06.469
Uh We'll take a look at your white paper. If you could

00:32:06.479 --> 00:32:10.009
just wrap up and summarize, that would be great. Uh

00:32:10.019 --> 00:32:15.769
Well, I think uh uh basically um in your deliberations

00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:19.739
on community solar, uh I hope you will consider the

00:32:19.750 --> 00:32:23.568
idea of maybe having two forms of what you call community

00:32:23.578 --> 00:32:26.709
solar, the traditional version and this new concept

00:32:26.719 --> 00:32:29.868
that I proposed, proposed and let the customers decide

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.939
which they like best. And I've communicated all of

00:32:32.949 --> 00:32:36.880
this with uh Tory Francisco. So he knows what I'm what

00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:40.699
I've been doing. Thank you very much for your consideration

00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.529
Thank you very much for your comment operator. Next

00:32:44.539 --> 00:32:47.729
caller, please.

00:32:47.729 --> 00:32:50.789
Our next caller is Michael Seiler with collective impact

00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.618
You may go ahead.

00:32:53.618 --> 00:32:55.769
Hi, thanks so much for the opportunity. My name is

00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:58.549
Michael Siler. My organization is collective impact

00:32:58.729 --> 00:33:02.289
I um I'm calling in in two capacities, one with business

00:33:02.299 --> 00:33:05.108
and one personal on a personal front. I'm a father

00:33:05.118 --> 00:33:09.489
of two living in San Francisco. My boys are six and

00:33:09.500 --> 00:33:12.430
two years old and we ride our bike all around the city

00:33:12.439 --> 00:33:15.088
to get to school and playgrounds and elsewhere. And

00:33:15.098 --> 00:33:18.199
when ways are uh next to us on the side of the

00:33:18.209 --> 00:33:21.039
road, we are way more comfortable than when there's

00:33:21.049 --> 00:33:24.219
a driver in the car. There's just so much human error

00:33:24.229 --> 00:33:26.789
that can happen with bike lanes and things like that

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.358
And the Waymo we know will never make a mistake in

00:33:29.368 --> 00:33:32.019
a personal capacity. My organization helps with large

00:33:32.029 --> 00:33:36.088
scale solutions to big city challenges and uh one of

00:33:36.098 --> 00:33:39.049
our big focuses is in homelessness. And right now,

00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:41.739
if you are experiencing homelessness in San Francisco

00:33:41.750 --> 00:33:45.009
just to get your basic services met, you have to take

00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.868
a wide array of public transportation and buses and

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:53.189
trains and uh it's way easier uh and very innovative

00:33:53.199 --> 00:33:56.439
to help our vulnerable neighbors uh be able to get

00:33:56.449 --> 00:33:58.959
the services that they need by giving them drives uh

00:33:58.969 --> 00:34:04.809
from uh Thank you very much for giving me. Thank you

00:34:04.818 --> 00:34:08.820
operator. Next caller, please.

00:34:08.820 --> 00:34:12.239
Our next caller is William Myers with senior volunteer

00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:16.280
senior center volunteer. You may go ahead.

00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.219
Hello. Thank you. I'm calling to support Waymo with

00:34:19.228 --> 00:34:23.099
28 rides, 90 miles and 495 minutes in an autonomous

00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:27.148
taxi. I find Waymo simply amazing. I feel safer in

00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.679
a Waymo than I do. In an Uber or Lyft. I'm a

00:34:29.688 --> 00:34:32.289
volunteer at two senior centers in Los Angeles and

00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:34.750
I believe Waymo will be able to greatly benefit senior

00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:39.039
citizens. Waymo, taxis are private, properly regulated

00:34:39.050 --> 00:34:41.918
and priced, will give senior citizens more freedom

00:34:41.929 --> 00:34:45.030
than ever before. One of my favorite experiences in

00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.550
a way mo I was talking with a senior citizen on our

00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.739
second ride home after our bingo game, about five minutes

00:34:50.750 --> 00:34:53.179
into the ride, we started to laugh. She forgot that

00:34:53.188 --> 00:34:56.389
a computer was actually taking us home or her home

00:34:56.398 --> 00:34:59.679
Pardon me? To come on uh on how nice the ride was

00:34:59.688 --> 00:35:02.809
and how comfortable she felt in the Waymo, Waymo, taxis

00:35:02.820 --> 00:35:05.929
do not rate or molest riders. Waymo, taxis do not engage

00:35:05.938 --> 00:35:09.030
in road rage or racing. Waymo. Taxis do not use drugs

00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.369
or alcohol. Waymo, taxis are not prejudiced towards

00:35:12.378 --> 00:35:15.969
potential riders. I believe the commission should allow

00:35:15.978 --> 00:35:19.050
Waymo to continue and grow operations in California

00:35:19.059 --> 00:35:22.929
Thank you for my time. Thank you. Operate our next

00:35:22.938 --> 00:35:26.159
caller, please.

00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.728
Our next caller is Vicky Severs with the EMF safety

00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:33.429
network. You may go ahead. Thank you, Vicky Severs

00:35:33.668 --> 00:35:37.769
I am dismayed that the item regarding a LJ Glo's proposed

00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:41.300
decision to dismiss AT&T S application has become a

00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:45.000
consent item. This is not the proper scheduling for

00:35:45.010 --> 00:35:48.309
a matter of keen interest to thousands of Californians

00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:52.469
as evidenced by docket comments, denying the public

00:35:52.478 --> 00:35:56.789
opportunity to witness discussion is undemocratic and

00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.429
an affront to the parties that submitted important

00:35:59.438 --> 00:36:03.469
comments on the decision such as a request made by

00:36:03.478 --> 00:36:07.250
the Center for Accessible Technology that the decision

00:36:07.260 --> 00:36:09.869
should acknowledge public comments, reflecting the

00:36:09.878 --> 00:36:14.139
concerns of people with disabilities and medical vulnerabilities

00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.760
The county of San Mateo importantly notes that because

00:36:18.769 --> 00:36:23.309
section 11 could be misread, it should be omitted from

00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.869
the final decision. And Catalina Island and turn point

00:36:27.878 --> 00:36:32.820
to months and years of specific AT&T failure to maintain

00:36:32.829 --> 00:36:37.378
landline infrastructure and AT&T abuse of customers

00:36:38.309 --> 00:36:42.289
allowed by this all allowed by. This was set up to

00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:45.869
act on the public's behalf. Please return this item

00:36:45.878 --> 00:36:49.958
to the regular agenda. Thank you.

00:36:49.958 --> 00:36:55.280
Thank you operator. Next caller, please.

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.668
Our next caller is Susan Callery with the global climate

00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.139
education. You may go ahead.

00:37:02.139 --> 00:37:06.659
Thank you for having me this morning. I recently retired

00:37:06.668 --> 00:37:10.168
from nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory as the lead for

00:37:10.179 --> 00:37:13.418
Earth Science public engagement and also the lead for

00:37:13.429 --> 00:37:17.110
nasa's climate website.

00:37:17.110 --> 00:37:20.889
Offshore wind is essential for creating a more reliable

00:37:20.898 --> 00:37:25.869
and resilient and for meeting critical climate targets

00:37:25.878 --> 00:37:31.320
on schedule by making strategic decisions. Now to facilitate

00:37:31.550 --> 00:37:35.050
offshore wind development, California can position

00:37:35.059 --> 00:37:39.030
itself as a national leader, achieving its climate

00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:43.789
goal of a carbon neutral economy by 2045. This goal

00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.010
will only be achieved if the state meets its target

00:37:47.019 --> 00:37:50.849
of 25 gigawatts of offshore wind. By that deadline

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.809
climate change is affecting people, animals and plants

00:37:54.820 --> 00:37:57.909
everywhere. And I'm proud to live in a state that is

00:37:57.918 --> 00:38:01.159
at the forefront of global climate action. Thank you

00:38:02.969 --> 00:38:07.599
Thank you operator. Next caller please.

00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.469
Our next caller is Gary Walner with the citizens climate

00:38:10.478 --> 00:38:15.590
education. You may go ahead. Hi, I support the Morrow

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.208
Bay offshore offshore wind project. This initiative

00:38:19.219 --> 00:38:22.668
aligns with California's energy goals. However, it

00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.878
is crucial to maximize central procurement now to benefit

00:38:27.889 --> 00:38:32.719
ratepayers by reducing developer risk, minimizing transaction

00:38:32.728 --> 00:38:36.679
costs and ultimately lowering prices over time. Moreover

00:38:36.688 --> 00:38:40.260
this large scale project will support the timely development

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:43.978
of necessary ports and transmission infrastructure

00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:47.300
improvements. These enhancements will drive market

00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:51.478
transformation, accelerate job creation and significantly

00:38:51.489 --> 00:38:56.019
improve supply chain development. These elements will

00:38:56.030 --> 00:38:59.579
result in a streamlined offshore wind project that

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:03.260
minimizes costs and provides the community with a stable

00:39:03.269 --> 00:39:07.909
electrical grid. As designed the project aims to reduce

00:39:07.918 --> 00:39:12.728
fossil fuel usage and curb climate change. I believe

00:39:12.739 --> 00:39:15.800
that the Public Utilities Commission should strongly

00:39:15.809 --> 00:39:19.639
support this wound project. Thank you for this opportunity

00:39:19.648 --> 00:39:25.958
to speak. Thank you operator. Next caller please.

00:39:25.958 --> 00:39:29.300
Our next caller is Leslie Detain. You may go ahead

00:39:29.309 --> 00:39:32.030
Your line is open. Thank you. I'm calling from San

00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.489
Francisco. Good morning commissioners. It's my hope

00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:38.849
that your decision regarding AT&T s application to

00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:42.889
withdraw as carrier of last resort had genuinely weighed

00:39:42.898 --> 00:39:45.739
the needs of California. Seniors and electromagnetic

00:39:45.750 --> 00:39:49.309
radiation sensitive people who depend on traditional

00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.750
copper landline phones, traditional copper landline

00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.099
phones are undeniably the most reliable phone service

00:39:56.110 --> 00:39:59.639
available. San Francisco fire and police departments

00:39:59.648 --> 00:40:03.438
agree. San Francisco firefighters had told me that

00:40:03.449 --> 00:40:06.579
they have copper landline phones as their auxiliary

00:40:06.590 --> 00:40:10.628
backup phone service. And they could not imagine not

00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.019
having copper landlines, a communication system that

00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:17.438
firefighters absolutely need to coordinate with their

00:40:17.449 --> 00:40:21.489
district fire stations in a major emergency. Clearly

00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:24.909
these emergency services that rely on copper landline

00:40:24.918 --> 00:40:28.199
phone service would face dire consequences if AT&T

00:40:28.208 --> 00:40:30.809
is allowed to decommission its copper based landline

00:40:30.820 --> 00:40:34.909
facilities. We California's seniors and people with

00:40:35.300 --> 00:40:40.010
sensitivity know that our are our emergency lifeline

00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.010
and our invaluable communication tool. I absolutely

00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:47.869
support CPUC Administrative Judge Guo's decision to

00:40:47.878 --> 00:40:52.110
dismiss AT&T S application and also AT&T must receive

00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.438
approval from the commission before any retirement

00:40:54.449 --> 00:40:57.639
of copper facilities occur. Rules must be made to support

00:40:57.648 --> 00:41:00.800
this. Thank you so very much and I apologize for taking

00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:04.699
more time. Thank you so kindly. Thank you operator

00:41:04.708 --> 00:41:08.000
Next caller, please.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.489
Our next caller is Lee, you may go ahead and your line

00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:14.639
is open. Hello?

00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.019
Yes, we can hear you. Hello? Oh, you can hear me. Ok

00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:22.139
Hi. Um Yes, I live in Marin County, California and

00:41:22.148 --> 00:41:28.260
I'm asking the CPUC to permanently deny AT&T S request

00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.320
to discontinue the copper landline as well as the lifeline

00:41:32.329 --> 00:41:36.898
subsidy program and the Wired DS L Internet. I am a

00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:40.958
person who requires those services and the lifeline

00:41:40.969 --> 00:41:46.458
subsidy program because I cannot use the uh wireless

00:41:46.469 --> 00:41:50.820
or wifi technology. I cannot use cell phones or VO

00:41:50.829 --> 00:41:55.019
IP phones or computer phones or mobile phones due to

00:41:55.208 --> 00:42:00.978
medical conditions and disabilities. Um And if those

00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:04.128
if copper landline and those services are discontinued

00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:06.978
I will have no phone and no internet and this is not

00:42:06.989 --> 00:42:13.119
acceptable. And I'm asking the CPUC to also take motions

00:42:13.128 --> 00:42:17.539
to stop AT&T from being able to increase the charges

00:42:17.550 --> 00:42:20.239
of the copper landline. My phone bill keeps going up

00:42:20.250 --> 00:42:23.289
every 1 to 2 months

00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:28.128
and also to um, permanently put an end to this to transfer

00:42:28.139 --> 00:42:32.429
the, the those services over to competent qualified

00:42:32.438 --> 00:42:35.300
replacement companies because it's been very stressful

00:42:35.309 --> 00:42:38.570
and harassing for the public who needs these, the copper

00:42:38.579 --> 00:42:42.019
landline phone services to continually have to go back

00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:47.590
to the CPUC. And you had talked about including everybody

00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.139
um, at the beginning of this meeting, well, you also

00:42:51.148 --> 00:42:53.929
need to include people with disabilities and medical

00:42:53.938 --> 00:42:58.199
conditions and who um have limited incomes who cannot

00:42:58.208 --> 00:43:04.489
afford um the, the phone and internet. So that needs

00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:09.070
to be part of the CPUC decision to include everybody

00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.309
who can have so that everyone can have phone and internet

00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.300
services that's accessible and affordable. Thank you

00:43:16.878 --> 00:43:21.610
Thank you, operator. Next color, please.

00:43:21.610 --> 00:43:24.628
Our next caller is Carol Page. I'm sorry, Carol Page

00:43:24.829 --> 00:43:29.079
You may go ahead. Good morning. This commission has

00:43:29.090 --> 00:43:34.099
the regulatory power to make AT&T maintain the copper

00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:38.769
landlines omitted by Judge Rilla by placing the corporate

00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:42.938
interests of AT&T ahead of California who ask your

00:43:42.949 --> 00:43:48.000
help. You appear to be five Quislings serving AT&T

00:43:48.010 --> 00:43:52.860
s desire for a more lucrative profit stream. AT&T does

00:43:52.869 --> 00:43:57.500
not need the money. Your constituency needs the telephones

00:43:57.869 --> 00:44:03.418
Please amend the decision to require copper lines unless

00:44:03.429 --> 00:44:08.570
you act to preserve the robust, reliable and safe copper

00:44:08.579 --> 00:44:13.510
landline service on which we depend. I'll be one more

00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.929
vulnerable 80 year old disabled living alone who will

00:44:17.938 --> 00:44:22.898
have no telephone and no emergency communications at

00:44:22.909 --> 00:44:28.769
all. Please think about that inclusion and intolerance

00:44:28.820 --> 00:44:32.969
commissioners. Thank you.

00:44:32.969 --> 00:44:38.050
Thank you operator. Next color, please.

00:44:38.050 --> 00:44:40.958
Our next caller is Fernando. I'm sorry, Fernando Maia

00:44:41.369 --> 00:44:44.369
with the lighthouse for the blind and visually impaired

00:44:44.750 --> 00:44:48.418
You may go ahead.

00:44:48.418 --> 00:44:51.679
Thank you so much. Uh My name is Fernando. I live in

00:44:51.688 --> 00:44:54.628
the city of East Palo Alto and work in the city of

00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.039
San Francisco for the lighthouse in, in San Francisco

00:44:58.050 --> 00:45:01.199
And I'm calling in support of expanding Waymo service

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:06.280
to San Mateo County and the Los Angeles area. Uh for

00:45:06.289 --> 00:45:10.719
a couple of reasons. I I li working in San Francisco

00:45:10.728 --> 00:45:13.360
has allowed me to experience Waymo in San Francisco

00:45:13.369 --> 00:45:16.809
and I've had nothing but good experiences. I've been

00:45:16.820 --> 00:45:19.708
on Waymo many, many times, taken, many people on rides

00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:24.070
I've also been a pedestrian and I've uh interacted

00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.030
with way mode as a pedestrian and I feel very safe

00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:34.780
as well. It will help to uh make uh public, it'll make

00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:38.829
it'll, it'll help to make it more accessible for those

00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.958
of us who are unable to drive, who need public transportation

00:45:41.969 --> 00:45:45.599
to be able to get such services and way more is a

00:45:45.610 --> 00:45:50.070
great option there. Thank you. Thank you operator.

00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.320
Next caller, please.

00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.769
Our next caller is Steve Hogle with the rural Sonoma

00:45:56.780 --> 00:46:00.570
County. You may go ahead. Yes. Hi. My name is Steve

00:46:00.579 --> 00:46:03.628
Hogel. I live in Merrill, Sonoma County and I am calling

00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.250
in regards to at and ts request to be relieved of their

00:46:07.260 --> 00:46:10.750
responsibility for the carry of last resort. I like

00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.898
to start with thanking you for taking my call and that

00:46:14.909 --> 00:46:18.898
I concur with the calls just a few months ago from

00:46:18.909 --> 00:46:22.889
Vicki severs about getting a proper hearing on this

00:46:22.898 --> 00:46:28.119
matter of the copper landlines. And most specifically

00:46:28.128 --> 00:46:32.329
I live out with my family in this rural area. We have

00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:36.110
very limited cell phone coverage. If any and an emergency

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:41.909
we would be very compromised as with 2019 Kincaid fire

00:46:41.918 --> 00:46:44.918
If we hadn't had our copper landline that we do have

00:46:44.929 --> 00:46:49.800
now, we would have not known about the evacuation and

00:46:49.809 --> 00:46:52.519
the extremely serious fire that went through here and

00:46:52.530 --> 00:46:56.739
took out most of our property. So I am asking that

00:46:56.809 --> 00:47:01.478
the commission not allow AT&T to shut their responsibility

00:47:01.489 --> 00:47:08.550
both to provide and maintain this copper landline service

00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.219
I don't want vo I because if there's no power, there's

00:47:11.228 --> 00:47:16.369
no internet and all these things are of extreme importance

00:47:16.378 --> 00:47:20.320
to the safety of this community out here where we live

00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:22.688
We're not the only ones who have to rely on copper

00:47:22.699 --> 00:47:26.780
landlines. So I'm asking that that the utility of the

00:47:26.869 --> 00:47:30.179
California Public Utilities Commission not grant AT&T

00:47:30.369 --> 00:47:35.579
their uh request to leave us without our copper landlines

00:47:35.809 --> 00:47:40.110
Thank you very much. Thank you operator. Next caller

00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.699
please.

00:47:42.699 --> 00:47:46.438
Our next caller is Jennifer lastly with OL A robotics

00:47:46.570 --> 00:47:50.679
and you may go ahead. Hi, thank you. This is Jennifer

00:47:50.929 --> 00:47:53.789
Lashley, executive director of Solar Robotics and I

00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.188
support helping Waymo bring more awareness about autonomous

00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.489
vehicles and including career paths and science, technology

00:48:01.500 --> 00:48:05.010
engineering and math to students in our organization

00:48:05.019 --> 00:48:07.918
we focus on communities of need and this means not

00:48:07.929 --> 00:48:11.349
just the youth but also their families with low and

00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:15.550
no barrier access to leading edge technology and having

00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.228
access to autonomous vehicles has a tremendous potential

00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.599
for helping bring our high needs communities up to

00:48:22.610 --> 00:48:26.329
speed with what's happening as technology evolves.

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:30.110
And it's really to all of our benefit for as many members

00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.079
of the general public to be able to participate in

00:48:33.090 --> 00:48:36.010
activities such as Alzheimer's vehicles and getting

00:48:36.019 --> 00:48:39.559
used to the idea of Alzheimer's vehicles on the street

00:48:39.938 --> 00:48:43.168
So for these reasons, I support continuing community

00:48:43.179 --> 00:48:47.438
education about and around Alzheimer's vehicle usage

00:48:47.449 --> 00:48:52.878
especially in Los Angeles. Thank you. Thank you, operator

00:48:52.889 --> 00:48:56.250
Next caller, please.

00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:59.159
Our next caller is Jim Stewart. You may go ahead. Your

00:48:59.168 --> 00:49:01.469
line is open.

00:49:01.469 --> 00:49:08.079
Hi, this is I have a phd in physics and the result

00:49:08.090 --> 00:49:12.978
of the uh embrittlement uh study by doctor uh Digby

00:49:12.989 --> 00:49:15.989
And I hope you uh could come into consideration your

00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.599
approval of the continuation of Diablo Canyon is neither

00:49:22.728 --> 00:49:27.719
it prudent or reasonable because you haven't considered

00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.378
the horrible safety crisis that we could have at any

00:49:32.389 --> 00:49:37.148
moment when that react. Number one splits open and

00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:42.239
emits all that radiation. I also want to uh say that

00:49:42.860 --> 00:49:48.030
we are very much opposed to your gassing of the people

00:49:48.228 --> 00:49:55.300
in that community near Fresno by putting um, um, hydrogen

00:49:55.309 --> 00:49:59.329
into the natural gas lines. What you're doing is you're

00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:03.780
increasing the Knox and you're using human guinea pigs

00:50:03.929 --> 00:50:09.179
And we think that unjust you all this

00:50:09.179 --> 00:50:12.409
but you are not being dust by gassing those people

00:50:16.398 --> 00:50:21.208
Thank you, operator. Next color, please.

00:50:21.208 --> 00:50:25.760
Our next caller is Rick mcleod. You may go ahead. Hello

00:50:25.769 --> 00:50:31.179
Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Yeah. Um I want to

00:50:31.188 --> 00:50:35.840
speak to the AT&T application to withdraws uh call

00:50:35.869 --> 00:50:39.019
of last uh carrier of last resort. I live in Santa

00:50:39.030 --> 00:50:41.938
Cruz. We're prone to many power outages and natural

00:50:41.949 --> 00:50:47.019
disasters and uh the emergency personnel are practically

00:50:47.030 --> 00:50:50.300
unanimous and the need to maintain copper landlines

00:50:50.780 --> 00:50:54.039
Also, a member of our household is electromagnetic

00:50:54.050 --> 00:50:57.208
sensitive to cell phone, towers and cell phone radiation

00:50:57.728 --> 00:51:01.500
Uh Also we have little or no self for service at our

00:51:01.510 --> 00:51:06.559
house. So I would urge you to require AT&T to keep

00:51:06.570 --> 00:51:11.628
and maintain the copper landlines. Uh They're uh um

00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:15.989
absolutely essential. We rely on our landlines uh for

00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.559
basic phone service as well as emergency. And like

00:51:18.570 --> 00:51:22.449
I said, we get lots of power outages So just wanted

00:51:22.458 --> 00:51:30.840
to urge you to uh require AT&T to uh uh maintain copper

00:51:30.849 --> 00:51:35.938
landlines. Thank you very much. Thank you operator

00:51:35.949 --> 00:51:39.309
Next caller, please.

00:51:39.309 --> 00:51:43.469
Our next caller is Isis fre. You may go ahead. Can

00:51:43.478 --> 00:51:45.639
you hear me?

00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.340
Yes, we can. Hello, thank you. Um I request agenda

00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:53.668
item 50 be moved from consent to the regular calendar

00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.918
for further discussion and changes while I appreciate

00:51:56.929 --> 00:52:01.019
the decision to deny AT&T S application. Section 11

00:52:01.099 --> 00:52:03.829
should be removed and replaced with the requirement

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.139
to maintain copper landlines. Most public comments

00:52:07.148 --> 00:52:10.059
opposing the application specifically pointed out that

00:52:10.070 --> 00:52:13.353
copper landline have been the most consistently reliable

00:52:13.362 --> 00:52:16.512
during emergency. I'm on VoIP right now and I often

00:52:16.521 --> 00:52:19.501
can barely hear or be heard. It depends on internet

00:52:19.512 --> 00:52:22.413
connections which go down during power outages as well

00:52:22.422 --> 00:52:25.782
as other times having to purchase, maintain and frequently

00:52:25.791 --> 00:52:29.251
update and replace computers and batteries is not sustainable

00:52:29.262 --> 00:52:32.211
Telecommunications are essential services that must

00:52:32.222 --> 00:52:35.824
be provided by the reliable, simplest means without

00:52:35.835 --> 00:52:39.554
barriers, many poor or disabled people cannot afford

00:52:39.565 --> 00:52:43.465
or use what at and T considers alternatives. Electrosensitive

00:52:43.476 --> 00:52:46.735
people especially are toxic, evicted from homes and

00:52:46.746 --> 00:52:50.465
communities by wireless radiation from antennas encroaching

00:52:50.476 --> 00:52:54.766
everywhere ada rights are being violated at and T must

00:52:54.775 --> 00:53:00.599
provide a service reliably and or its corporate chart

00:53:00.610 --> 00:53:03.369
to be revoked, its infrastructure seized and turned

00:53:03.378 --> 00:53:06.128
over to the public as Nebraska did with its energy

00:53:06.139 --> 00:53:09.329
supply. Also, I agree with others shut down Diablo

00:53:09.340 --> 00:53:13.769
already. Thank you. Thank you operator. Next caller

00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:16.599
please.

00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.539
Our next caller is Ray Jin from the Y MC A. You

00:53:19.550 --> 00:53:23.688
may go ahead. Good afternoon members of the Public

00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:26.590
Utilities Commission. Uh My name is Ray and I'm calling

00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.458
from Care County Beach in Los Angeles. Uh one of the

00:53:29.469 --> 00:53:31.949
most densely populated districts in the population

00:53:31.958 --> 00:53:36.610
of Los Angeles County and our Y MC A, there's a lot

00:53:36.619 --> 00:53:40.510
of elderly and senior populations and those who walk

00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:44.668
on foot and pedestrian safety is one of the most important

00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.909
things that we have been advocating for as um there

00:53:47.918 --> 00:53:50.809
has been new hit and runs over 100 per year in the

00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:54.208
Los Angeles area. I myself um personally have used

00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:57.090
way more. I do feel safe and I have gone to lunch

00:53:57.099 --> 00:54:01.208
um with Waymo and have been advocating for um the,

00:54:01.219 --> 00:54:05.188
the technology that Waymo provides. Um Also they have

00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.719
been really supportive in all of the community engagement

00:54:07.728 --> 00:54:10.559
locally here in Los Angeles, especially with the nonprofit

00:54:10.570 --> 00:54:13.329
organizations doing a lot of uh good ground work um

00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:17.000
with us. But overall um autonomous vehicles have the

00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:19.599
potential to improve mobility for older individuals

00:54:19.610 --> 00:54:21.688
people with disabilities and those who cannot drive

00:54:21.699 --> 00:54:24.320
these medical reasons. And I mean, way more, it's not

00:54:24.329 --> 00:54:26.300
just the company preparing you for the transportation

00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:30.128
industry. And thank you for considering my call. Thank

00:54:30.139 --> 00:54:35.659
you, operate your next color, please.

00:54:35.659 --> 00:54:40.030
Our next caller is Julia Ross. You may go ahead.

00:54:40.030 --> 00:54:43.289
Thank you. I'm calling to oppose the elimination of

00:54:43.300 --> 00:54:46.570
the copper landlines. Um For 30 years, I've been an

00:54:46.579 --> 00:54:49.340
author, educator, clinic director and consultant, but

00:54:49.349 --> 00:54:56.280
I'm calling now um for my personal reasons. Um 15 years

00:54:56.289 --> 00:54:59.500
ago, when I or more, when I first I got my first

00:54:59.510 --> 00:55:05.469
uh cell phone, I discovered that um uh exposure to

00:55:05.478 --> 00:55:09.699
it created immediate uh headaches, earaches and heart

00:55:09.708 --> 00:55:15.320
palpitations. So that um although I have one when I'm

00:55:15.329 --> 00:55:19.739
driving in case of emergency, I just cannot use them

00:55:20.289 --> 00:55:24.918
Uh And being deprived of the copper landlines would

00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:30.458
make it impossible for me to continue either my work

00:55:30.469 --> 00:55:35.809
or my personal life, let alone um make calls like this

00:55:35.820 --> 00:55:40.148
and uh for emergency help when I first discovered the

00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:46.610
disability that um the uh cell phone caused, I came

00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.128
and they told me that complaints were very common and

00:55:51.139 --> 00:55:56.079
that the agent who spoke to me got migraines immediately

00:55:56.090 --> 00:55:59.898
So I'm not isolated, but I'm happy to have the opportunity

00:55:59.909 --> 00:56:03.039
to tell you about my personal problem with this. Thank

00:56:03.050 --> 00:56:10.019
you. Thank you, operator. Next call, please.

00:56:10.019 --> 00:56:19.728
Our next caller is 10 P. You may go ahead

00:56:19.728 --> 00:56:21.898
and then your line is open. We're not able to hear

00:56:21.909 --> 00:56:31.559
you. Please check your mute button.

00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.500
And should we go to the next caller? Yes, thank you

00:56:36.030 --> 00:56:39.090
Ok. Next caller is Nancy Gutierrez. You may go ahead

00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:45.168
Hi. Um Can you hear me? Ok? Yes, we can. Ok. Uh

00:56:45.179 --> 00:56:52.128
My name is Nancy Guterres. Uh Gut. I er rez I'm from

00:56:52.139 --> 00:56:56.369
Palm Desert, California. I'm calling today in regards

00:56:56.378 --> 00:57:03.809
to the AT&T um, copper landline. Um, the purpose of

00:57:03.820 --> 00:57:08.289
the, um, color rules is to ensure that there is a public

00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:12.409
utility which is obligated to serve all customers that

00:57:12.418 --> 00:57:16.849
request its service. Well, I want a copper landline

00:57:16.860 --> 00:57:21.409
service back but AT&T does not and has not offered

00:57:21.418 --> 00:57:25.090
it for years in my area and I've tried, believe me

00:57:25.659 --> 00:57:30.280
um, other kinds of uh phone service are not reliable

00:57:30.860 --> 00:57:33.500
I have a flip phone and I don't use it very much

00:57:33.510 --> 00:57:38.188
because it gets so hot against my ear. And I, I often

00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:41.398
wonder if all this electromagnetic radiation from these

00:57:41.409 --> 00:57:44.789
cell phones has given us more heat to our planet, um

00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.188
rather than the weather. Um But anyways, um please

00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:56.438
enforce AT&T to maintain and provide copper landlines

00:57:56.449 --> 00:58:01.168
for all Californians. You've heard plenty of our comments

00:58:01.179 --> 00:58:05.168
and you know how we feel, please respect Californians

00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.570
instead of AT&T. Please give Californians their copper

00:58:09.579 --> 00:58:13.438
landlines back to everyone in California. Thank you

00:58:13.449 --> 00:58:17.898
for your time. Thank you operator. Next caller, please

00:58:19.918 --> 00:58:22.079
Thank you. And before we go to the next caller, if

00:58:22.090 --> 00:58:24.969
you would like to make a comment, please unmute your

00:58:24.978 --> 00:58:28.179
phone. Press star one and record your first and last

00:58:28.188 --> 00:58:32.159
name fully and clearly when prompted. Our next caller

00:58:32.168 --> 00:58:39.369
is Marcus Corbel. You may go ahead.

00:58:39.369 --> 00:58:42.039
Hi. My name is Marcus Kwe. I'm the founder of Liam's

00:58:42.050 --> 00:58:45.019
Life Foundation after my 15 month son was killed by

00:58:45.030 --> 00:58:49.820
a drunk driver every year. Over 10,000 American lives

00:58:49.829 --> 00:58:52.510
are taken due to drunk driving. That's the equivalent

00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.360
of a Jumbo jet crashing every single week. It also

00:58:55.369 --> 00:58:58.800
costs American taxpayers 100 and $50 million in drunk

00:58:58.809 --> 00:59:02.869
driving related costs. In California alone, three people

00:59:02.878 --> 00:59:05.219
are killed every single day and it costs Californian

00:59:05.228 --> 00:59:09.309
taxpayers $20 million a year in drunk driving related

00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.239
costs. I'm strongly supporting way more as no one should

00:59:13.250 --> 00:59:15.969
drink and drive. And we're also working very hard to

00:59:15.978 --> 00:59:19.668
lower the B AC from 0.08 to 0.05. Liam's law as it

00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.289
was called, was killed by Reggie Jones Sawyer from

00:59:22.300 --> 00:59:24.829
the Public Safety Committee. But in the end of the

00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:27.179
day, if you're having one drink, you shouldn't be driving

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:31.010
and wear is by far the best option as it is also

00:59:31.019 --> 00:59:35.010
considering drowsy driving as well as distracted driving

00:59:35.219 --> 00:59:39.989
Thank you. Thank you operator. Next caller, please

00:59:42.250 --> 00:59:45.030
Our next caller is Dobbie Summer. You may go ahead

00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.739
Hello. My name is Debbie Summer. I have been living

00:59:49.750 --> 00:59:55.010
in Mendocino County for over 50 years. I am asking

00:59:55.019 --> 00:59:59.989
you to not allow AT&T to decommission.

00:59:59.998 --> 01:00:05.849
Corporate landlines and to keep our landlines as a

01:00:05.857 --> 01:00:11.137
disabled senior. It's my lifeline and I need it and

01:00:11.148 --> 01:00:15.148
I appreciate you for hearing me today and hope you

01:00:15.158 --> 01:00:20.388
will vote to make them keep our landlines and take

01:00:20.397 --> 01:00:27.179
care of the copper lines. Thank you so much and I appreciate

01:00:27.188 --> 01:00:32.479
you very much. Thank you again. Goodbye. Thank you

01:00:33.208 --> 01:00:37.818
operator. Next caller, please.

01:00:37.818 --> 01:00:40.878
Our next caller is Dolores Howard with Paso Robles

01:00:40.888 --> 01:00:45.418
You may go ahead. Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity

01:00:45.428 --> 01:00:48.498
to speak. My name is Dolores Howard and I'm a resident

01:00:48.509 --> 01:00:52.739
of Paso Robles in ST Elizabeth B County. The nuclear

01:00:52.748 --> 01:00:56.518
power plant is dangerous and costly. The two faults

01:00:56.528 --> 01:00:59.418
that run directly under the plant are vertical thrust

01:00:59.428 --> 01:01:02.448
faults capable of producing ground motion that could

01:01:02.458 --> 01:01:06.398
damage essential safety equipment at the plant, triggering

01:01:06.407 --> 01:01:10.428
a rapid shut down catastrophic for the embry unit one

01:01:10.437 --> 01:01:14.139
reactor pressure vessel every day. The plant produces

01:01:14.148 --> 01:01:18.047
highly radioactive lethal nuclear waste. There's nowhere

01:01:18.058 --> 01:01:21.889
to store the waste except on site on our coastline

01:01:21.989 --> 01:01:25.937
with no plans for a permanent repository. All of the

01:01:25.948 --> 01:01:29.958
spent fuel stored after 2025 will be stored in spent

01:01:29.969 --> 01:01:33.797
fuel pools even less safe than the dry cask storage

01:01:33.808 --> 01:01:38.377
pads which will be full PG and E is currently forecasting

01:01:38.389 --> 01:01:42.669
an $11.8 billion price tag for extending operations

01:01:42.678 --> 01:01:47.068
at Diablo Canyon for five years. The CPUC should use

01:01:47.077 --> 01:01:53.258
the escape clause found in California 25548 D due to

01:01:53.267 --> 01:01:56.919
these massive cost increases. Thank you very much.

01:01:57.478 --> 01:02:02.889
Thank you, operator. Next caller, please.

01:02:02.889 --> 01:02:06.118
Our next caller is Claudia V with invest in women.

01:02:06.127 --> 01:02:10.648
You may go ahead. Thank you. Can you hear me? Yes,

01:02:10.658 --> 01:02:16.349
we can. Ok, great, thanks. Yes. Um I'm calling to support

01:02:16.357 --> 01:02:21.607
Judge Gogo's ruling to dismiss AT&T s proposal to eliminate

01:02:21.968 --> 01:02:27.489
copper landline. So um positively to um support the

01:02:27.497 --> 01:02:32.849
continuation of landlines using copper copper uh uh

01:02:33.069 --> 01:02:38.628
lines. Um Also uh this is so important as we've heard

01:02:38.638 --> 01:02:41.979
so many times and essential during emergencies, especially

01:02:41.989 --> 01:02:46.628
in rural areas, especially for elders and also, especially

01:02:46.638 --> 01:02:50.849
for people suffering from a electromagnetic sensitivity

01:02:51.069 --> 01:02:55.289
estimate. Maybe 100,000 people in California have this

01:02:55.297 --> 01:02:58.428
condition which is uh fairly substantial. It seems

01:02:58.438 --> 01:03:01.099
small but it's it's substantial. We should pay attention

01:03:01.107 --> 01:03:05.069
to that. Also good to hear that firefighters find that

01:03:05.077 --> 01:03:07.979
their landlines are necessary. So, thank you for um

01:03:07.989 --> 01:03:13.838
reviewing this uh all this input and um uh supporting

01:03:13.849 --> 01:03:18.229
our position. Thank you. Thank you, operator. Next

01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.668
call, please.

01:03:21.668 --> 01:03:25.069
Our next caller is Patrice mcguinness with the Center

01:03:25.077 --> 01:03:29.247
for the Blind. You may go ahead. Thank you so much

01:03:29.729 --> 01:03:32.708
Uh I am actually the chair of the Board of directors

01:03:32.718 --> 01:03:37.888
for the Vista Center. And I strongly urge uh support

01:03:37.898 --> 01:03:42.888
for the Waymo extension going into San Mateo and also

01:03:42.898 --> 01:03:47.319
in Los Angeles. I wish it were everywhere as a blind

01:03:47.327 --> 01:03:52.979
person. Uh I think if you ask any blind person, the

01:03:52.989 --> 01:03:58.047
most difficult thing to handle is transportation and

01:03:58.058 --> 01:04:05.308
I use a guide dog and often am refused entry to lift

01:04:05.319 --> 01:04:09.368
or to Uber for that reason, even though they say they

01:04:09.378 --> 01:04:13.759
do well, sometimes they don't. So I really strongly

01:04:13.767 --> 01:04:18.589
urge that this be available for everyone. Um The thought

01:04:18.597 --> 01:04:21.818
of just being able to go where I want when I want

01:04:21.827 --> 01:04:26.198
the way I want uh with a driver that that vehicle is

01:04:26.209 --> 01:04:29.568
a miracle that I hope happens in my lifetime. Uh Vista

01:04:29.577 --> 01:04:33.969
Center is very supportive of way o they are heroes

01:04:35.827 --> 01:04:38.558
I really thank you all for your time and attention

01:04:40.808 --> 01:04:46.198
Thank you, operator. Next color, please.

01:04:46.198 --> 01:04:50.178
Our next caller is Sydney Cox with EMF Safety Network

01:04:50.188 --> 01:04:54.219
You may go ahead. Hi. Uh My name is Sydney Cox and

01:04:54.227 --> 01:04:57.017
as you mentioned, I'm with the EMF Safety Network and

01:04:57.029 --> 01:05:00.989
I'm in Sonoma County, California like so many others

01:05:00.998 --> 01:05:04.618
Um We depend on a copper landline. I depend on landlines

01:05:04.628 --> 01:05:07.267
Um So please understand how many of us do depend on

01:05:07.279 --> 01:05:11.138
the copper landlines. Um And this was especially critical

01:05:11.149 --> 01:05:13.529
during the fires in Cinema County when people couldn't

01:05:13.537 --> 01:05:16.508
get cell service and a really good friend of mine was

01:05:16.517 --> 01:05:18.568
telling me how her neighbors were knocking on her door

01:05:18.577 --> 01:05:22.178
to use her landline phone, uh, during the, um, during

01:05:22.188 --> 01:05:26.678
the, um, Kincaid fire. Uh, and even though even if

01:05:26.688 --> 01:05:30.037
the cell sites aren't down during a fire, we need landline

01:05:30.048 --> 01:05:32.719
back up because there's too many people using too much

01:05:32.727 --> 01:05:36.159
of the service. And then if your phone runs out of

01:05:36.167 --> 01:05:38.188
battery then you can't use it and you can't charge

01:05:38.198 --> 01:05:40.077
it because there's an outage because there's a fire

01:05:40.358 --> 01:05:43.558
So, uh anyway, we all know copper landlines don't depend

01:05:43.568 --> 01:05:47.417
on electrical grid. So um even I know AT&T is saying

01:05:47.428 --> 01:05:49.758
that they'll provide first net for emergencies, but

01:05:49.767 --> 01:05:52.209
we still need the copper landlines for the reasons

01:05:52.219 --> 01:05:55.438
stated. So thank you for your time. Um And finally

01:05:55.448 --> 01:05:57.827
oh, some people are getting sick from too much wireless

01:05:57.839 --> 01:06:03.347
exposure. So, um no one gets thanks so much.

01:06:03.347 --> 01:06:10.858
Thank you operator next caller, please.

01:06:10.858 --> 01:06:13.438
And before we go to the next caller again, if anybody

01:06:13.448 --> 01:06:16.239
would like to make a comment, please unmute your phone

01:06:16.248 --> 01:06:19.239
press star one and record your first and last name

01:06:19.248 --> 01:06:23.149
slowly and clearly our next caller is Maureen. You

01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:28.878
may go ahead.

01:06:28.878 --> 01:06:33.649
Hello? Can you hear me? Yes, we can? Wonderful. I've

01:06:33.659 --> 01:06:36.568
made a comment online and I'm gonna add several things

01:06:36.577 --> 01:06:39.727
to it. Um I'm in support of maintaining the copper

01:06:39.739 --> 01:06:42.469
landlines. I have a daughter with disabilities. And

01:06:42.477 --> 01:06:44.969
so this is a very personal situation for me. I've gone

01:06:44.977 --> 01:06:49.037
through all kinds of ramifications of having a landline

01:06:49.188 --> 01:06:51.748
I agree with the last caller. We, we were the only

01:06:51.758 --> 01:06:54.577
ones that had service during most of the fires due

01:06:54.589 --> 01:06:58.618
to smoke and everything here in San Rafael. Um, I also

01:06:58.628 --> 01:07:02.037
agree that this, um, item needs to be removed to a

01:07:02.048 --> 01:07:04.917
regular agenda for discussion. It's just way too important

01:07:04.928 --> 01:07:07.159
and there are too many people that it is going to affect

01:07:07.308 --> 01:07:09.459
I would like to invite each member on the board to

01:07:09.469 --> 01:07:12.678
envision the last moments of an elderly or disabled

01:07:12.688 --> 01:07:15.399
family member in their homes watching an approaching

01:07:15.409 --> 01:07:18.178
fire but not being able to call out for help because

01:07:18.188 --> 01:07:20.727
they don't have a landline and their cell phone has

01:07:20.739 --> 01:07:23.827
failed. And then watching that that person is going

01:07:23.839 --> 01:07:27.167
to perish. We were all horrified to see all the fatalities

01:07:27.178 --> 01:07:30.517
that occurred at the paradise fires and these different

01:07:30.529 --> 01:07:33.108
things. And I've researched this to know that most

01:07:33.118 --> 01:07:35.959
of those failures were due to people not having copper

01:07:35.969 --> 01:07:40.827
landlines, they did way to call out. So we must think

01:07:40.839 --> 01:07:43.188
about this horror as a reality, not only to prevent

01:07:43.198 --> 01:07:45.368
it from happening, but to honor those who have already

01:07:45.378 --> 01:07:48.267
died in this manner. Good common sense needs to prevail

01:07:48.279 --> 01:07:52.159
in this decision. Not financial gain for copper, technology

01:07:52.167 --> 01:07:55.969
needs to advance for humanity's interest in a situation

01:07:55.977 --> 01:07:59.798
When copper will serve humanity better, we must preserve

01:07:59.808 --> 01:08:02.428
it and recognize that it is a moral decision at this

01:08:02.438 --> 01:08:05.308
point. And that has to be on the conscience of everybody

01:08:05.318 --> 01:08:09.008
on this board. It is a moral decision to save lives

01:08:09.347 --> 01:08:11.688
Thank you so much for your time and I really hope that

01:08:11.698 --> 01:08:14.448
you continue to ensure that we have these landline

01:08:14.459 --> 01:08:19.368
services. Thank you operator. Next caller, please.

01:08:22.498 --> 01:08:26.438
Next caller is Lindsay map with the YWC A Golden State

01:08:26.448 --> 01:08:30.327
Silicon Valley. You may go ahead.

01:08:30.327 --> 01:08:35.718
Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Hello? Ok. Um Hello.

01:08:35.728 --> 01:08:37.819
my name is Lindsay Math and I'm calling from San Jose

01:08:37.829 --> 01:08:40.708
California. I'm the director of philanthropy at YWC

01:08:40.718 --> 01:08:43.657
A Golden Gate, Silicon Valley. Our agency provides

01:08:43.667 --> 01:08:46.059
services to people who are impacted by domestic violence

01:08:46.069 --> 01:08:49.277
sexual assault and human trafficking and also run um

01:08:49.287 --> 01:08:52.417
violence prevention and racial justice programs. Waymo

01:08:52.429 --> 01:08:54.708
autonomous driving technology would provide survivors

01:08:54.718 --> 01:08:56.739
with a choice in transportation and could be a good

01:08:56.748 --> 01:08:58.949
option for survivors and community members who are

01:08:58.958 --> 01:09:01.809
worried about assaults on transportation or want a

01:09:01.819 --> 01:09:05.208
quote unquote private transportation option. We request

01:09:05.218 --> 01:09:07.417
that the commission uphold the decision to expand Waymo

01:09:07.458 --> 01:09:10.978
services to the SF Peninsula in Los Angeles. So more

01:09:10.989 --> 01:09:13.728
people can benefit from Waymo technology. Thank you

01:09:15.338 --> 01:09:21.878
Thank you, operator. Next color, please.

01:09:21.878 --> 01:09:24.608
Our next caller is Peter Barnes. You may go ahead.

01:09:26.728 --> 01:09:30.189
Hello, my name is Peter Barnes. I live in feeling California

01:09:31.128 --> 01:09:34.728
Uh I am a new solar owner and a customer of Southern

01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:38.179
California Edison. I'm calling about two injustices

01:09:38.189 --> 01:09:41.628
with Nem three that I recently discovered uh in the

01:09:41.638 --> 01:09:45.167
transition from Nem two to nem three. You were a part

01:09:45.179 --> 01:09:47.618
of Nem two. If you got your application in by a certain

01:09:47.628 --> 01:09:50.588
date, I missed that because of problems with my installer

01:09:50.598 --> 01:09:55.147
So I'm on them three. But um part of that is when

01:09:55.157 --> 01:09:57.628
you did the transition, you had an adder so that the

01:09:57.638 --> 01:10:00.468
transition wouldn't be as financially burdensome for

01:10:00.478 --> 01:10:04.429
people. Uh But unlike then the transition from M two

01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.277
and M three, the adder requires an application to be

01:10:08.287 --> 01:10:12.748
approved, not just applied. So I applied for my interconnect

01:10:12.758 --> 01:10:17.657
application on March 19th, but it wasn't approved for

01:10:17.667 --> 01:10:22.118
over 60 days. Now, that's beneficial for Southern California

01:10:22.128 --> 01:10:26.358
Edison. They're gonna save lots of money from not approving

01:10:26.368 --> 01:10:29.358
my application in time even though we know interconnect

01:10:29.368 --> 01:10:33.579
applications are down over this past year. This is

01:10:33.588 --> 01:10:36.498
terrible. Don't put the responsibility in the hands

01:10:36.508 --> 01:10:39.569
of a company that has a financial benefit from screwing

01:10:39.579 --> 01:10:42.429
over customers. This needs to be fixed. Thank you very

01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:49.489
much. Thank you, operator. Next caller, please.

01:10:49.489 --> 01:10:52.309
And our last caller is Richard Buckingham. You may

01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:55.008
go ahead. Yeah. Hi. My name is Richard Buckingham.

01:10:55.018 --> 01:10:58.917
I live in Aptos now, this is hill country. I have a

01:10:58.929 --> 01:11:01.657
friend who lives in the central valley and he said

01:11:01.667 --> 01:11:04.809
he'd call me on the way over. Uh He called me from

01:11:04.819 --> 01:11:08.508
Salinas, which is about 20 miles away instead of Watsonville

01:11:08.518 --> 01:11:12.199
which is six miles away. And he's the reason he said

01:11:12.208 --> 01:11:16.138
was because uh his cell phone wouldn't work in my area

01:11:16.397 --> 01:11:20.208
The point is that the, I have proof that cell phones

01:11:20.218 --> 01:11:24.579
don't work everywhere. Uh, here's something else. Uh

01:11:24.868 --> 01:11:28.579
two years ago I bought a cell phone. I had, I needed

01:11:28.588 --> 01:11:32.858
one. I needed a phone. Uh, I gave it up because it

01:11:32.868 --> 01:11:37.897
it made me feel sick. Uh, I've read plenty of reports

01:11:37.907 --> 01:11:41.498
of the ill effects that microwave radiation has on

01:11:41.508 --> 01:11:44.848
the human body. And I have, I have one myself, I have

01:11:44.858 --> 01:11:48.559
proof positive that uh it was making me sick. And for

01:11:48.569 --> 01:11:52.897
these reasons, I say keep the copper landlines, let's

01:11:52.907 --> 01:11:57.978
uh not eliminate them, let's keep them and uh take

01:11:57.989 --> 01:12:02.598
it from there. Thank you very much. Thank you, operator

01:12:02.608 --> 01:12:05.848
Next color, please.

01:12:05.848 --> 01:12:08.667
And our next caller is Marilyn Garrett. You may go

01:12:08.679 --> 01:12:11.138
ahead

01:12:11.138 --> 01:12:16.118
thanks to all the speakers who are advocating to maintain

01:12:16.388 --> 01:12:21.108
and require copper landlines for everyone in California

01:12:21.378 --> 01:12:27.527
The CPUC language needs to clearly require copper landlines

01:12:27.628 --> 01:12:32.588
These people represent thousands of others. The item

01:12:32.598 --> 01:12:38.848
should be on the regular agenda and I'm for closing

01:12:38.858 --> 01:12:44.569
Diablo Canyon as well is in and the question it is

01:12:44.579 --> 01:12:50.718
Diablo Canyon, Fukushima on the California coast. The

01:12:50.728 --> 01:12:55.638
main challenge is the structural domination here of

01:12:55.647 --> 01:12:59.378
the corporate state. There has never been more corporate

01:12:59.388 --> 01:13:07.329
power than in our society today as exemplified by AT&T

01:13:07.478 --> 01:13:14.258
PG and E Raytheon, Lockheed Martin. They control lands

01:13:14.268 --> 01:13:18.208
the public war airwaves and they strategically plan

01:13:19.689 --> 01:13:25.108
I think the corporate charter of ATM T and PG and E

01:13:25.118 --> 01:13:34.378
needs to be revoked. And also section 11 of the proposed

01:13:34.388 --> 01:13:40.239
decision as San Mateo County has stated is irrelevant

01:13:40.248 --> 01:13:44.338
to the ultimate disposition and could be misread as

01:13:44.348 --> 01:13:51.157
allowing a to skirt its color requirements by choosing

01:13:51.167 --> 01:13:55.797
to offer alternatives to the plain old telephone service

01:13:56.008 --> 01:14:01.439
that do not meet basic requirements. Section 11 should

01:14:01.449 --> 01:14:09.397
be removed and I think the um previous speakers, um

01:14:09.608 --> 01:14:16.949
we need to maintain the copper landlines. Clear language

01:14:18.489 --> 01:14:22.758
protect the public. Your remarks about inclusion and

01:14:22.768 --> 01:14:29.949
justice and safety for everyone require that you insist

01:14:29.958 --> 01:14:34.138
on the maintenance of copper landlines. It's a life

01:14:34.147 --> 01:14:39.059
and death issue. In fact, I wonder if AT&T removes

01:14:39.069 --> 01:14:43.537
this knowing that death is on the horizon. Does this

01:14:43.547 --> 01:14:48.657
fall into the category of premeditated murder? Thank

01:14:48.667 --> 01:14:58.297
you. Thank you operator. Next color, please.

01:14:58.297 --> 01:15:00.559
I show no additional callers at this time. But if you

01:15:00.569 --> 01:15:03.358
would like to make a comment, please unmute your phone

01:15:03.559 --> 01:15:06.679
Press star one and record your first and last name

01:15:06.689 --> 01:15:09.728
slowly and clearly.

01:15:09.728 --> 01:15:11.708
Ok, we'll pause for a minute in case there's anyone

01:15:11.718 --> 01:15:38.248
else on the line.

01:15:38.248 --> 01:15:40.407
And President Reynolds, I have no additional callers

01:15:40.417 --> 01:15:43.618
in queue at this time. Ok. Thank you very much operator

01:15:44.179 --> 01:15:46.878
with no more callers on the line. The public comment

01:15:46.888 --> 01:15:51.157
period is now closed. I'll now turn to today's public

01:15:51.167 --> 01:15:55.458
agenda and I'm going to start by noting the following

01:15:55.468 --> 01:16:03.429
changes to today's agenda item items. 569, 1011 and

01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:08.468
12 have been moved to the regular agenda items. 39

01:16:08.478 --> 01:16:15.748
42 43 4549 and 49 A have been held to the July

01:16:15.758 --> 01:16:21.388
11th. 2024. Voting meeting item 50 has been moved to

01:16:21.397 --> 01:16:24.439
the consent agenda

01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:26.478
and I believe we may have a motion on one of the

01:16:26.489 --> 01:16:28.618
items.

01:16:28.618 --> 01:16:30.797
I do have a motion but it's on an item that is

01:16:30.809 --> 01:16:34.079
on consent agenda two. So I wonder if we should take

01:16:34.088 --> 01:16:37.838
up consent agenda one and then turn to the motion that

01:16:37.848 --> 01:16:41.167
consent agenda to I think what we'll do is and this

01:16:41.179 --> 01:16:45.478
is related to Commissioner Baker's um, uh, anticipated

01:16:45.489 --> 01:16:48.728
recusal. I think if you would like to recuse yourself

01:16:48.739 --> 01:16:52.277
Now, Commissioner Baker and then um, you can come back

01:16:52.287 --> 01:16:57.208
for the consent agenda, but sure. Thank you. Uh, President

01:16:57.218 --> 01:17:02.608
Reynolds pursuant to public utilities code 309.5 as

01:17:02.618 --> 01:17:05.869
well as underlying due process concerns. Today. I will

01:17:05.879 --> 01:17:09.548
be recusing myself from any matter in which the public

01:17:09.557 --> 01:17:12.968
Advocate's office has had prior involvement as a party

01:17:12.978 --> 01:17:32.268
during my tenure as director.

01:17:32.268 --> 01:17:34.489
All right. And now I'll give you the opportunity to

01:17:34.498 --> 01:17:36.758
make your motion. Commissioner Reynolds. Thank you

01:17:36.768 --> 01:17:39.998
President Reynolds. I would like to make a motion for

01:17:40.008 --> 01:17:44.389
a one meeting. Hold for item 19. That's the rate making

01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:48.968
mechanism pursuant to Senate bill 410 for ENG projects

01:17:50.347 --> 01:17:53.048
Ok. Thank you, Commissioner Reynolds. Um I will go

01:17:53.057 --> 01:17:56.208
ahead and second the motion. Um, so we have a motion

01:17:56.218 --> 01:17:59.048
from Commissioner Reynolds and I'm going to second

01:17:59.057 --> 01:18:03.817
the motion. Um, and if any comments from any commissioners

01:18:03.989 --> 01:18:07.778
ok. Uh I'm seeing Commissioner Douglas shake her head

01:18:07.788 --> 01:18:11.077
now as well. Um So I'll ask the agenda clerk to please

01:18:11.087 --> 01:18:16.307
call the roll Commissioner Douglas. Yes, Commissioner

01:18:16.317 --> 01:18:19.597
John Reynolds,

01:18:19.597 --> 01:18:24.518
President Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 30. The

01:18:24.528 --> 01:18:29.178
motion passes and item 19 has been held to the next

01:18:29.188 --> 01:18:32.879
meeting, which can someone tell me the date to clarify

01:18:33.419 --> 01:18:38.428
The meeting will be on July 11th but it is 40, not

01:18:38.438 --> 01:18:42.369
30 for the vote. That's right. We've got Commissioner

01:18:42.379 --> 01:18:47.438
Douglas. Thank you very much. The vote is 40 including

01:18:47.448 --> 01:18:50.659
Commissioner Douglas who's remote and um, the item

01:18:50.669 --> 01:18:55.278
has been held. Item 19 has been held to the July 11th

01:18:55.288 --> 01:18:58.639
2024 voting meeting. Thank you for the clarification

01:19:01.077 --> 01:19:03.659
Uh, we are going to ask Commissioner Baker to come

01:19:03.669 --> 01:19:07.557
back in and then I'm gonna separate the items and then

01:19:07.567 --> 01:19:12.018
he's gonna leave again.

01:19:12.018 --> 01:19:31.538
What, what's going on?

01:19:31.538 --> 01:19:35.389
He'll be back in just a moment.

01:19:35.389 --> 01:19:37.327
So we just need to pause for a moment to wait for

01:19:37.337 --> 01:19:58.788
him to come back. Thank you,

01:19:58.788 --> 01:20:01.847
President Reynolds. If you wanted to do the separation

01:20:01.857 --> 01:20:05.958
of the two sets of consent agenda items and do consent

01:20:05.968 --> 01:20:09.678
to first, we can do that. Ok, I'll switch the order

01:20:10.028 --> 01:20:14.989
All right. Thank you. Um, ok, we will. Um, unless I

01:20:14.998 --> 01:20:18.489
hear objection, I'm going to suggest that we separate

01:20:18.498 --> 01:20:23.419
the consent items into two consent agendas. Consent

01:20:23.428 --> 01:20:26.119
agenda. Number one would consist of those items on

01:20:26.129 --> 01:20:29.428
which consent Commissioner Baker can vote and consent

01:20:29.438 --> 01:20:32.798
Agenda. Number two would consist of those items on

01:20:32.807 --> 01:20:36.827
which Commissioner Baker will recuse himself. Um seeing

01:20:36.837 --> 01:20:41.508
and hearing no objection. Uh We will go ahead and um

01:20:41.518 --> 01:20:44.139
we're going to switch the order so we'll vote on agenda

01:20:44.298 --> 01:20:50.188
agenda two first and then agenda one. Um So I am going

01:20:50.198 --> 01:20:55.528
to read for clarity. Um the items within consent agenda

01:20:55.538 --> 01:20:58.087
two. These are items for which Commissioner Baker is

01:20:58.097 --> 01:21:10.239
recused. Um These items are 28 1718, 2023 24 28 30

01:21:10.268 --> 01:21:20.619
31 32 35 37 40 41 44 46 47 48 and 50

01:21:21.258 --> 01:21:26.438
Ok. Do we have a motion on consent agenda? Two. All

01:21:26.508 --> 01:21:30.188
right. Is there a second? Ok. We have a motion and

01:21:30.198 --> 01:21:33.018
a second on consent agenda. Agenda clerk. Could you

01:21:33.028 --> 01:21:36.198
please call the roll?

01:21:36.198 --> 01:21:41.428
Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner President

01:21:41.629 --> 01:21:46.228
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 40. Consent agenda

01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:51.169
two passes has been approved. All right now, I'm going

01:21:51.178 --> 01:21:53.889
to wait a moment for Commissioner Baker to come back

01:21:53.899 --> 01:22:09.107
in.

01:22:09.107 --> 01:22:13.909
All right. Um We are now on consent agenda. Number

01:22:13.919 --> 01:22:17.889
one and I will read the items within that consent agenda

01:22:19.038 --> 01:22:23.057
Consent agenda. Number one includes or consists of

01:22:23.067 --> 01:22:37.619
items 1347 1314, 1516, 21. 22 25 26 27 29 33 3436

01:22:37.629 --> 01:22:44.597
and 38. Is there a motion on consent agenda? One,

01:22:44.597 --> 01:22:47.548
I move. All right, we have a motion. Is there a second

01:22:49.268 --> 01:22:52.239
Ok, we have a motion and a second on consent agenda

01:22:52.248 --> 01:22:56.327
One agenda clerk, could you please call the roll?

01:22:56.327 --> 01:23:02.807
Yes, Commissioner Douglas. Yeah. So

01:23:02.807 --> 01:23:08.038
Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner

01:23:08.038 --> 01:23:13.097
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 50 consent agenda

01:23:13.139 --> 01:23:17.438
One has been approved.

01:23:17.438 --> 01:23:21.419
Ok. I will now move to the regular agenda and we're

01:23:21.428 --> 01:23:28.288
going to start with um items 569, 1011 and 12 on the

01:23:28.298 --> 01:23:31.778
regular agenda. The items will be presented and discussed

01:23:31.788 --> 01:23:34.327
together, but we'll be taking a separate vote on each

01:23:34.337 --> 01:23:38.768
item. Um All right, we have uh, should I pause for

01:23:38.778 --> 01:23:42.087
a moment? Oh, yeah, we have a recusal again. I think

01:23:42.678 --> 01:23:46.419
All right. Would you like to recuse yourself, Mr Baker

01:23:48.208 --> 01:23:51.748
pursuant to public utilities code 309.5. As well as

01:23:51.758 --> 01:23:54.587
underlying due process concerns today. I will be recusing

01:23:54.597 --> 01:23:56.629
myself from any matter in which the public advocates

01:23:56.639 --> 01:24:00.067
has, has had office, has had a prior involvement as

01:24:00.077 --> 01:24:03.528
a party during my tenure as director and I won't go

01:24:04.989 --> 01:24:16.307
All right, we'll call you back soon.

01:24:16.307 --> 01:24:19.607
Ok. We have executive Director Rachel Peterson here

01:24:19.619 --> 01:24:22.498
to present these items, MS Peterson. Thank you very

01:24:22.508 --> 01:24:25.448
much, President Reynolds and Commissioners. Thank you

01:24:25.458 --> 01:24:29.788
for the opportunity to introduce six exciting broadband

01:24:29.798 --> 01:24:33.478
draft resolutions that drive forward our commitment

01:24:33.489 --> 01:24:37.038
to broadband for all in California. In total, these

01:24:37.048 --> 01:24:41.077
grants provide more than $42 million to help people

01:24:41.087 --> 01:24:44.758
who today do not have internet service, obtain access

01:24:44.768 --> 01:24:48.798
to high speed, high quality, reliable and affordable

01:24:48.807 --> 01:24:52.347
internet. We're making the grants to a combination

01:24:52.357 --> 01:24:56.258
of entrepreneurial, local businesses, affordable housing

01:24:56.268 --> 01:25:00.389
providers and educational institutions. The providers

01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:03.518
are using diverse technologies that deliver internet

01:25:03.528 --> 01:25:07.978
including fiber and fixed wireless. As you know, our

01:25:07.989 --> 01:25:11.567
California Advanced services Fund program is a grantmaking

01:25:11.577 --> 01:25:15.629
program that supports all facets of closing the digital

01:25:15.639 --> 01:25:19.587
divide in California as you consider these grants today

01:25:19.597 --> 01:25:23.607
Here's some indicators of the impact of our CASF program

01:25:24.178 --> 01:25:28.919
Since 2008/36 infrastructure grantees have received

01:25:28.928 --> 01:25:32.577
awards to build broadband networks. Now serving more

01:25:32.587 --> 01:25:37.688
than 322,000 households that were previously unserved

01:25:37.698 --> 01:25:41.758
or underserved public housing grantees have received

01:25:41.768 --> 01:25:46.379
505 awards to provide broadband internet to more than

01:25:46.389 --> 01:25:50.847
24,000 public housing units and they've made digital

01:25:50.857 --> 01:25:54.298
literacy training available to more than 28,000 people

01:25:54.778 --> 01:25:59.399
We've awarded 454 adoption grants for digital literacy

01:25:59.409 --> 01:26:04.327
projects serving close to 400,000 participants in 48

01:26:04.337 --> 01:26:08.607
counties across California and now for the six items

01:26:08.619 --> 01:26:11.067
before you, I'll give a few bullet points. About each

01:26:12.419 --> 01:26:16.538
item. Five is an award to surf net communications inc

01:26:17.018 --> 01:26:20.669
surf net. A surf net will fund last mile broadband

01:26:20.678 --> 01:26:24.119
infrastructure with fiber to the premises, broadband

01:26:24.129 --> 01:26:28.817
services at speeds of up to one gig per second, download

01:26:28.827 --> 01:26:33.739
and one gig per second upload. It will serve 465 locations

01:26:33.748 --> 01:26:37.438
including here in San Luis Obispo County, as well as

01:26:37.448 --> 01:26:40.998
Santa Clara and Santa Cruz counties. The project will

01:26:41.008 --> 01:26:44.788
serve mountainous and rural communities that are unserved

01:26:44.798 --> 01:26:48.008
right now because of the high cost of deployment. The

01:26:48.018 --> 01:26:52.218
project cost is 10, just over $10 million. We received

01:26:52.228 --> 01:26:55.899
19 letters of support including from us, Representative

01:26:55.909 --> 01:26:59.919
Jimmy Panetta, whose 19th congressional district includes

01:26:59.928 --> 01:27:03.739
the areas that surf net will serve. We also heard support

01:27:03.748 --> 01:27:06.698
from community based organizations and other local

01:27:06.708 --> 01:27:10.837
entities. Surf net is locally owned and operated. And

01:27:10.847 --> 01:27:13.538
if you visit their website, you can see their pride

01:27:13.548 --> 01:27:15.968
in the deep ties that they have to the communities

01:27:15.978 --> 01:27:21.889
they serve. Item six is an adoption award to two entities

01:27:21.899 --> 01:27:25.498
The Los Angeles County Office of Education and to Parent

01:27:25.508 --> 01:27:30.208
University. Uh Los Angeles County Office of Education

01:27:30.419 --> 01:27:34.317
Equitable Equitable Communities Digital literacy in

01:27:34.327 --> 01:27:38.347
a technical society project will receive approximately

01:27:38.357 --> 01:27:43.639
$320,000 in an award. And Parent University California

01:27:43.649 --> 01:27:48.337
project will receive 1 million together. The projects

01:27:48.347 --> 01:27:53.258
will provide digital literacy training to 5340 participants

01:27:53.669 --> 01:27:57.258
Laco Los Angeles County Office of Education is the

01:27:57.268 --> 01:28:01.649
nation's largest regional education agency comprised

01:28:01.659 --> 01:28:05.649
of 80 K through 12 school districts that serve 1.4

01:28:05.659 --> 01:28:09.149
million students and their families. Each year. Parent

01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:13.409
university serves agricultural communities and rural

01:28:13.478 --> 01:28:16.827
and urban low income neighborhoods along with immigrant

01:28:16.837 --> 01:28:20.649
populations with limited English proficiency in order

01:28:20.659 --> 01:28:23.827
to boost their digital literacy all across California

01:28:25.958 --> 01:28:31.369
Item nine approves the 2425 fiscal year budget for

01:28:31.379 --> 01:28:39.337
this program for a total of 136 million, 211,000.

01:28:39.337 --> 01:28:44.337
Item 10 is a broad band infrastructure award to rural

01:28:44.347 --> 01:28:48.728
Fresno project. This recommends funding to Cal Neva

01:28:49.278 --> 01:28:52.989
for a last mile broadband network with a combination

01:28:52.998 --> 01:28:57.597
of hybrid fiber coax technology and fixed wireless

01:28:57.607 --> 01:29:01.587
access technology. Cal Neva is proposing to serve up

01:29:01.597 --> 01:29:07.057
to 600,000 excuse me, 600 households in Fresno County

01:29:07.228 --> 01:29:12.129
The project cost is 519,000. Cal Neva operates in the

01:29:12.139 --> 01:29:16.428
cities of Huron and Coalinga which include remote farming

01:29:16.438 --> 01:29:20.028
communities that are unserved and underserved. The

01:29:20.038 --> 01:29:24.008
median household income of the project area is 43,000

01:29:24.018 --> 01:29:28.288
per year. Cal Neva is a successful repeat grantee.

01:29:28.298 --> 01:29:33.129
We made a grant to them in 2017 to similarly install

01:29:33.139 --> 01:29:37.899
a coax cable system that's now serving more than 5000

01:29:37.909 --> 01:29:41.357
households in these same communities and one local

01:29:41.369 --> 01:29:45.649
group sent in a letter of support the Central Valley

01:29:45.659 --> 01:29:49.619
women's entrepreneur centers whose director Ana Alfaro

01:29:49.847 --> 01:29:53.567
said women entrepreneurs in the central valley depend

01:29:53.577 --> 01:29:57.018
on today's digital market and access to the internet

01:29:57.087 --> 01:30:00.248
to start and grow their businesses. Exactly what Cal

01:30:00.567 --> 01:30:06.728
Neva will deliver. Item 11 is a series of public housing

01:30:06.739 --> 01:30:11.548
account grant awards to four affordable housing providers

01:30:11.989 --> 01:30:19.169
This will fund internet access for six projects in

01:30:19.178 --> 01:30:23.048
Escondido, Wildomar Pacheco, Berkeley, Oakhurst and

01:30:23.057 --> 01:30:26.989
Goshen. I am very pleased that the affordable housing

01:30:26.998 --> 01:30:30.077
community is taking advantage of our grant program

01:30:30.248 --> 01:30:34.087
to support internet access for their residents. The

01:30:34.097 --> 01:30:37.268
affordable housing providers here are community housing

01:30:37.278 --> 01:30:40.758
works. Las Palmas housing and development corporation

01:30:41.018 --> 01:30:45.548
RC D Housing and self help enterprises. They'll deploy

01:30:45.557 --> 01:30:50.119
wireless and wired broadband infrastructure for 346

01:30:50.129 --> 01:30:53.768
affordable housing units and thus the residents will

01:30:53.778 --> 01:30:56.688
have better access to everything that's made possible

01:30:56.698 --> 01:31:01.698
by high quality internet. Rounding out the base item

01:31:01.708 --> 01:31:06.659
12 is an infrastructure award to LCB Communications

01:31:07.458 --> 01:31:11.557
LCB. Communications will provide fixed wireless technology

01:31:11.577 --> 01:31:16.718
to bring internet to 1101 eligible households in low

01:31:16.728 --> 01:31:20.248
income communities of San Benito, Santa Cruz and Monterey

01:31:20.258 --> 01:31:26.629
counties. The project cost is about 29.5 million. As

01:31:26.639 --> 01:31:29.528
we all know Silicon Valley is a place where there is

01:31:29.538 --> 01:31:32.718
a significant wealth divide and a significant digital

01:31:32.728 --> 01:31:36.218
divide. It is also a mountainous topography where it

01:31:36.228 --> 01:31:39.419
is difficult and expensive to deploy infrastructure

01:31:40.228 --> 01:31:44.278
This project is designed to serve low income communities

01:31:44.288 --> 01:31:48.129
in these counties. LCB Communications will provide

01:31:48.139 --> 01:31:52.369
affordable internet to low income families at $15 per

01:31:52.379 --> 01:31:56.528
month. We heard from California Assembly speaker Robert

01:31:56.538 --> 01:32:01.048
Revis, whose district 29 covers this area. Speaker

01:32:01.218 --> 01:32:05.258
Rivas wrote to us saying the district covers over 140

01:32:05.268 --> 01:32:09.698
miles of challenging terrain with steep narrow canyons

01:32:09.708 --> 01:32:13.823
heavily wooded and high fire threat zones. Families

01:32:13.833 --> 01:32:17.514
in our region continue to suffer from inadequate broadband

01:32:17.524 --> 01:32:21.364
access. They're unable to fully participate in public

01:32:21.373 --> 01:32:24.913
economic or academic life. These are the gaps that

01:32:24.923 --> 01:32:29.899
this project will address. LCB is also a successful

01:32:29.909 --> 01:32:35.337
repeat grantee in 2021. They completed another infrastructure

01:32:35.347 --> 01:32:39.619
project with CASF funds and provided broadband access

01:32:39.629 --> 01:32:44.298
to 150 households in a portion of rural unincorporated

01:32:44.639 --> 01:32:49.288
Santa Clara County. Thank you very much for the opportunity

01:32:49.298 --> 01:32:52.018
to present all six at once. Commissioners and back

01:32:52.028 --> 01:32:53.807
to you, President Reynolds. I'm happy to answer any

01:32:53.817 --> 01:32:56.619
questions. Thank you very much. Um Do commissioners

01:32:56.629 --> 01:33:02.097
have comments on these items, Commissioner ha.

01:33:02.097 --> 01:33:06.538
Um Thank you um, Director Peterson. It is really great

01:33:06.548 --> 01:33:09.239
to hear all of the advancements and success that we're

01:33:09.248 --> 01:33:13.649
seeing in our CASF program. Um The resolutions that

01:33:13.659 --> 01:33:16.307
are up for vote today serve as examples of how we're

01:33:16.317 --> 01:33:19.678
using the CASF program funding to achieve our shared

01:33:19.688 --> 01:33:22.837
goals, to achieve broadband for all. As mentioned,

01:33:22.847 --> 01:33:25.768
these resolutions provide grant funding for broadband

01:33:25.778 --> 01:33:28.678
and infrastructure projects to expand broadband to

01:33:28.688 --> 01:33:32.478
unserved and underserved California households. Um

01:33:32.489 --> 01:33:36.248
In addition, um we had a of a re a resolution that

01:33:36.258 --> 01:33:40.758
provides the allocation for our fiscal year 2024 25

01:33:40.768 --> 01:33:43.989
that will be increasing that amount to 100 and $36

01:33:43.998 --> 01:33:46.718
million. So that is good news that we're gonna be able

01:33:46.728 --> 01:33:49.639
to use that additional funding that's being collected

01:33:50.057 --> 01:33:54.097
Um Today's resolutions provide millions of dollars

01:33:54.107 --> 01:33:57.347
for casf infrastructure projects in the counties that

01:33:57.357 --> 01:34:00.458
were listed. I'm not gonna repeat all of the um summaries

01:34:00.468 --> 01:34:03.149
that, that you provided an excellent job describing

01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:06.448
the programs. And again, it's great to see our infrastructure

01:34:06.458 --> 01:34:09.708
and public housing programs um providing access to

01:34:09.717 --> 01:34:14.309
vulnerable communities across the state. Um And just

01:34:14.318 --> 01:34:17.539
recognizing the work in L A and the importance of our

01:34:17.548 --> 01:34:20.349
adoption fund and making sure that people understand

01:34:20.358 --> 01:34:23.579
how to use the technology that, that we're being able

01:34:23.588 --> 01:34:26.568
to provide through these grants. So I am pleased to

01:34:26.579 --> 01:34:31.048
support the grants and um look forward to um the next

01:34:31.059 --> 01:34:34.769
steps in seeing these projects implemented. Um I encourage

01:34:34.778 --> 01:34:37.568
our stakeholders to look at the, our programs that

01:34:37.579 --> 01:34:39.849
the changes we've made the additional funding we've

01:34:39.858 --> 01:34:42.927
got. And I just want to thank everyone that contributed

01:34:42.938 --> 01:34:46.137
to this process, our amazing communications division

01:34:46.148 --> 01:34:50.989
team, um Selena Wong Lou Fisher, James Tong Steven

01:34:50.999 --> 01:34:57.367
O Bill Goey, Peter Chang Taylor Chimney Daniel, um

01:34:57.378 --> 01:35:03.367
Lean Jessica Rodriguez Hayward, um Deluge Michael Goens

01:35:03.378 --> 01:35:10.028
Ben, uh Swinging Andrew Alibaba, uh Angela Young Liga

01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:15.342
Serpas and um lemme Reshmi. And in addition, I wanna

01:35:15.353 --> 01:35:18.543
thank our legal team, Stacy Castro and Enrique Gherardo

01:35:18.552 --> 01:35:22.603
for all of their work on this. And um deputy director

01:35:22.633 --> 01:35:26.213
Maria Ellis and Director Rob Osborne for all of our

01:35:26.224 --> 01:35:29.492
work in um getting these projects across the finish

01:35:29.503 --> 01:35:33.503
line. Um These grants are essential components to increasing

01:35:33.512 --> 01:35:37.503
broadband access across California. Again, I look forward

01:35:37.512 --> 01:35:41.918
to um seeing these grants approved today and having

01:35:41.927 --> 01:35:45.128
the infrastructure put in place for you. So thank you

01:35:46.278 --> 01:35:49.427
All right, Commissioner Reynolds, thank you President

01:35:49.438 --> 01:35:52.499
Reynolds and thank you, Director Peterson for the uh

01:35:52.989 --> 01:35:55.499
for the description of these different projects. I

01:35:55.508 --> 01:35:58.318
will also be supporting these resolutions which continue

01:35:58.329 --> 01:36:01.728
our crucial expansion of broadband access to unserved

01:36:01.739 --> 01:36:04.829
and underserved communities. These expansion efforts

01:36:04.838 --> 01:36:08.137
are significant as as has been described including

01:36:08.568 --> 01:36:11.249
three construction projects for Middle Mile and last

01:36:11.258 --> 01:36:13.758
mile broadband network infrastructure to serve over

01:36:13.769 --> 01:36:17.599
2000 locations in unserved and underserved areas in

01:36:17.608 --> 01:36:20.499
San Luis Obispo, Santa Cruz and Santa Clara counties

01:36:20.867 --> 01:36:24.398
Fresno and Aromas, some of which are in rural or remote

01:36:24.407 --> 01:36:28.079
locations. And it is a pleasure to be here today in

01:36:28.088 --> 01:36:31.088
San Luis Obispo where over $10 million in investment

01:36:31.099 --> 01:36:35.887
to broadband upgrades will be made right here.

01:36:35.887 --> 01:36:39.148
Furthermore, grant funding efforts to support digital

01:36:39.157 --> 01:36:42.289
literacy and education programs for thousands of participants

01:36:42.298 --> 01:36:46.309
belonging to historically marginalized groups. Uh as

01:36:46.318 --> 01:36:49.137
well as funding efforts to support broadband deployment

01:36:49.148 --> 01:36:52.528
in public housing developments will serve another 346

01:36:52.539 --> 01:36:55.657
households. These are also notable and a step in the

01:36:55.668 --> 01:36:58.789
right direction of facilitating meaningful broadband

01:36:58.798 --> 01:37:03.309
access for underserved populations. I think it's also

01:37:03.318 --> 01:37:05.739
worth highlighting that many of these projects include

01:37:05.749 --> 01:37:08.418
a commitment to provide internet access either at a

01:37:08.427 --> 01:37:12.228
low cost of no more than $15 a month or even for

01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:16.128
free for some public housing developments for promoting

01:37:16.137 --> 01:37:19.367
access to those who have been previously left behind

01:37:19.378 --> 01:37:21.887
and priced out from getting access to broadband networks

01:37:22.668 --> 01:37:24.599
These projects are another step forward in being the

01:37:24.608 --> 01:37:27.588
state's commitment to providing access to modern networks

01:37:27.599 --> 01:37:31.008
for all Californians.

01:37:31.008 --> 01:37:34.188
It's also great to have heard about uh personal accounts

01:37:34.197 --> 01:37:36.708
and stories from affected communities of how these

01:37:36.717 --> 01:37:39.508
projects will benefit local communities by enabling

01:37:39.519 --> 01:37:42.467
access to high speed internet and the benefits tied

01:37:42.478 --> 01:37:45.137
to that including increased opportunities for individuals

01:37:45.148 --> 01:37:48.548
to attain education, skills and training needed to

01:37:48.559 --> 01:37:51.708
obtain employment and contribute to economic and workforce

01:37:51.717 --> 01:37:55.168
development and to improve health care including telehealth

01:37:55.177 --> 01:37:58.528
services, public safety and reliable communications

01:37:58.539 --> 01:38:01.668
with emergency first responders and quality of life

01:38:01.677 --> 01:38:04.867
for community members. Overall, the middle mile and

01:38:04.878 --> 01:38:08.358
last mile infrastructure projects funded by the infrastructure

01:38:08.367 --> 01:38:11.478
grant account will also enable enhanced communication

01:38:11.489 --> 01:38:14.258
services that will promote public safety capabilities

01:38:14.269 --> 01:38:18.039
in areas with difficult terrain and areas located in

01:38:18.048 --> 01:38:21.648
tier two high fire threat districts. The funding of

01:38:21.657 --> 01:38:24.329
these projects is another huge victory in our efforts

01:38:24.338 --> 01:38:27.588
to bridge the digital divide in the state by building

01:38:27.599 --> 01:38:29.967
infrastructure, deploying broadband and public housing

01:38:29.978 --> 01:38:32.447
developments and providing these literacy and education

01:38:32.458 --> 01:38:34.947
programs where it's most greatly needed in unserved

01:38:34.958 --> 01:38:37.088
and underserved areas. So I will be supporting these

01:38:37.099 --> 01:38:39.289
items. Thank you.

01:38:39.289 --> 01:38:42.208
Thank you uh Commissioner Douglas. I'll turn to you

01:38:42.217 --> 01:38:47.508
now.

01:38:47.508 --> 01:38:51.008
Thank you. Uh President Reynolds, I wanted to speak

01:38:51.019 --> 01:38:55.407
briefly in support of these uh resolutions as well

01:38:55.758 --> 01:38:59.258
We have often talked about the importance of broadband

01:38:59.269 --> 01:39:03.367
service in producing uh a and the positive outcomes

01:39:03.378 --> 01:39:06.758
that helps produce in, in in multiple areas, health

01:39:06.769 --> 01:39:11.338
safety, education, uh economic opportunities and community

01:39:11.349 --> 01:39:15.688
development and of course emergency response. And so

01:39:16.628 --> 01:39:23.059
um the uh these resolutions which will take the state

01:39:23.068 --> 01:39:25.708
another step forward in helping to bridge the digital

01:39:25.717 --> 01:39:29.608
divide with projects in rural communities. Last mile

01:39:29.617 --> 01:39:32.608
connections, public housing, tribal communities and

01:39:32.617 --> 01:39:38.208
and more um are another important step forward and

01:39:38.217 --> 01:39:43.927
um the collective $42 million in the CASF grants and

01:39:43.938 --> 01:39:47.637
the resolutions in front of us um as has already been

01:39:47.648 --> 01:39:52.677
discussed, um would help reach over uh two would reach

01:39:52.688 --> 01:39:57.478
over 2500 households in eligible locations across California

01:39:57.489 --> 01:40:02.677
and across 13 counties. Um I'm in strong support and

01:40:02.688 --> 01:40:06.228
um appreciate the opportunity to offer comments. Thank

01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:09.048
you, Commissioner Douglas. I also want to express my

01:40:09.059 --> 01:40:13.728
strong support uh for these resolutions. I am very

01:40:13.739 --> 01:40:17.208
glad to see so many broadband resolutions um on the

01:40:17.217 --> 01:40:20.717
agenda today and just want to highlight a couple of

01:40:20.728 --> 01:40:26.028
things. One is that uh we're approving over $42 million

01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:28.697
in grants. Um This is all of course from the California

01:40:28.708 --> 01:40:32.228
Event Services Fund and these are for digital equity

01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:35.128
and broadband infrastructure, very important for the

01:40:35.137 --> 01:40:40.387
state. Um These projects are also tailored to the communities

01:40:40.398 --> 01:40:43.499
they serve. The projects were submitted by regional

01:40:43.508 --> 01:40:46.358
internet service providers, nonprofits and housing

01:40:46.367 --> 01:40:50.978
authorities and they'll provide free or low cost options

01:40:50.989 --> 01:40:55.128
for low income households. The infrastructure projects

01:40:55.137 --> 01:40:58.489
in particular are notable for the variety of solutions

01:40:58.499 --> 01:41:02.617
that they provide including fiber, coaxial cable, cable

01:41:02.628 --> 01:41:06.508
and fixed wireless technologies. I did also want to

01:41:06.519 --> 01:41:09.407
note my appreciation for the broadband infrastructure

01:41:09.418 --> 01:41:13.407
grant account. Applicants surf net, CAL, Neva and LCB

01:41:13.717 --> 01:41:17.989
for committing to provide affordable service. These

01:41:17.999 --> 01:41:21.088
applicants committed to provide plans for low income

01:41:21.099 --> 01:41:24.739
households that meet or exceed state broadband standards

01:41:25.108 --> 01:41:27.688
and they uh they've committed to offer these plans

01:41:27.697 --> 01:41:31.648
for less than $15 a month.

01:41:31.648 --> 01:41:34.688
So I support these resolutions. I'm very pleased to

01:41:34.697 --> 01:41:38.947
do so and I'm pleased to see so much progress. Um based

01:41:38.958 --> 01:41:41.489
on the matters that we're, we're considering today

01:41:41.668 --> 01:41:44.838
I also wanted to extend my sincere gratitude to the

01:41:44.849 --> 01:41:47.358
numerous staff and the communications division for

01:41:47.367 --> 01:41:51.588
all of their hard work on these programs. So with that

01:41:51.599 --> 01:41:54.688
I'll ask for, um, we're gonna take, as I said, all

01:41:54.697 --> 01:41:56.617
of these items separately. So we're going to go through

01:41:56.628 --> 01:42:01.117
a series of motions and votes on each item. So the

01:42:01.128 --> 01:42:03.289
first one that we're going to be taking up is item

01:42:03.298 --> 01:42:06.568
number five. So I'll ask for a motion on item five

01:42:07.349 --> 01:42:10.059
I move that we approve item five. Ok. Is there a second

01:42:11.039 --> 01:42:12.778
All right, agenda clerk. Could you please call the

01:42:12.789 --> 01:42:17.739
roll Douglas? Yes. Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds

01:42:18.298 --> 01:42:22.117
commissioner. Yes, President Alice Reynolds. Yes, the

01:42:22.128 --> 01:42:28.789
vote is 40. Item five passes. The next item is, uh

01:42:29.878 --> 01:42:34.489
is very exciting. Um, the next item is item six. I'd

01:42:34.499 --> 01:42:37.478
like to ask it whether there's a motion on item six

01:42:38.258 --> 01:42:42.239
Um, I move that we approve item six second. Ok, we

01:42:42.249 --> 01:42:44.887
have a motion and a second on item six. Agenda. Clerk

01:42:44.898 --> 01:42:47.239
Could you please call the roll? Commissioner Douglas

01:42:48.349 --> 01:42:52.177
Yes. Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner Hau.

01:42:53.309 --> 01:42:59.249
Yes, Alice Reynolds. Yes. The vote is 40 item six passes

01:42:59.989 --> 01:43:04.117
The next item is item nine. Uh, I'd like to ask for

01:43:04.128 --> 01:43:07.208
a motion on item nine. I move that we approve item

01:43:07.217 --> 01:43:10.489
nine second. Ok, we have a motion and a second on item

01:43:10.499 --> 01:43:13.177
nine agenda clerk. Could you please call the roll commissioner

01:43:13.188 --> 01:43:15.059
do?

01:43:15.059 --> 01:43:20.168
Yes. Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner President

01:43:20.289 --> 01:43:25.117
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 40 item nine passes

01:43:25.458 --> 01:43:29.927
I'll now turn to item 10 and ask for a motion.

01:43:29.927 --> 01:43:33.739
I move that we approve item 12th. Ok, we have a motion

01:43:33.749 --> 01:43:36.447
and a second on item 10 agenda clerk. Could you please

01:43:36.458 --> 01:43:39.128
call the roll?

01:43:39.128 --> 01:43:44.688
Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner

01:43:44.688 --> 01:43:49.907
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 40 item 10 passes

01:43:50.387 --> 01:43:54.568
I'll now turn to item 11 and ask for a motion on

01:43:54.579 --> 01:43:58.829
item 11. I move that we approve.

01:43:58.829 --> 01:44:02.677
Ok, we have a motion and a second on 11 agenda. Could

01:44:02.688 --> 01:44:06.978
you please call the roll?

01:44:06.978 --> 01:44:10.829
Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner Hal President

01:44:10.907 --> 01:44:16.668
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 40 item 11 passes

01:44:16.697 --> 01:44:19.769
The next item is item 12 and I will ask for a

01:44:19.778 --> 01:44:24.697
motion on item 12. I move that we approve.

01:44:24.697 --> 01:44:27.898
Ok, we have a motion and a second on item 12. Agenda

01:44:27.907 --> 01:44:31.798
Clerk. Could you please call the roll?

01:44:31.798 --> 01:44:36.898
Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds. Commissioner President

01:44:37.039 --> 01:44:42.059
Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 40. Item 12 passes

01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:53.048
Wonderful. All right. Um, I'm gonna turn to item 51

01:44:53.059 --> 01:44:55.427
but we'll pause for a moment and let Commissioner Baker

01:44:55.438 --> 01:45:07.008
rejoin us.

01:45:07.008 --> 01:45:12.309
Ok. Um Item 51 opens a new rule making to consider

01:45:12.318 --> 01:45:15.349
revisions to the commission's carrier of last resort

01:45:15.358 --> 01:45:18.048
rules. Um I'm gonna turn to Commissioner Reynolds who

01:45:18.059 --> 01:45:22.208
is going to present this item. Thank you, President

01:45:22.217 --> 01:45:25.539
Reynolds. I appreciate the opportunity to introduce

01:45:25.548 --> 01:45:28.867
this order instituting rulemaking which is one part

01:45:28.878 --> 01:45:31.947
of a larger story and history of the state's commitment

01:45:31.958 --> 01:45:34.958
to an obligation to provide universal telephone service

01:45:34.967 --> 01:45:38.088
to all Californians, regardless of physical geographic

01:45:38.099 --> 01:45:43.059
linguistic, ethnic or income considerations. In 1994

01:45:43.068 --> 01:45:45.599
the legislature tasked the commission with initiating

01:45:45.608 --> 01:45:48.208
a proceeding to ensure universal telecommunication

01:45:48.217 --> 01:45:51.467
services include essential telecommunication services

01:45:51.478 --> 01:45:54.289
provided at affordable prices to all Californians.

01:45:55.318 --> 01:45:58.117
In response to this, the commission decided to designate

01:45:58.128 --> 01:46:01.157
existing incumbent telephone providers in each service

01:46:01.168 --> 01:46:04.398
territory to be carriers of last resort, also known

01:46:04.407 --> 01:46:07.999
as callers in their service territories to ensure that

01:46:08.008 --> 01:46:10.978
all customers receive service. Consistent with universal

01:46:10.989 --> 01:46:15.269
service policy. Back in the nineties, there were major

01:46:15.278 --> 01:46:18.019
changes to the telecommunications regulatory structure

01:46:18.028 --> 01:46:21.749
at the state and federal levels. A regulatory regime

01:46:21.758 --> 01:46:24.548
founded on the rate regulation of universal service

01:46:24.559 --> 01:46:28.367
monopoly utility transitioned to a market based regulatory

01:46:28.378 --> 01:46:31.739
structure. But with a continued commitment to universal

01:46:31.749 --> 01:46:36.849
service to essential communi telecommunications support

01:46:36.858 --> 01:46:39.588
for universal service came in many forms including

01:46:39.599 --> 01:46:43.628
means tested subsidized service for Californians continuing

01:46:43.637 --> 01:46:46.769
financial support for the service of Californians in

01:46:46.778 --> 01:46:50.099
some high cost areas. And our continued expectation

01:46:50.108 --> 01:46:52.829
that there will be a carrier responsible for providing

01:46:52.838 --> 01:46:57.249
basic service everywhere in the state. With some adjustments

01:46:57.258 --> 01:47:00.008
our carry of last resort rules have been in place since

01:47:00.019 --> 01:47:04.079
1996. At time that we were firmly in the midst of the.com

01:47:04.088 --> 01:47:08.008
boom. A lot has changed in the telecom industry since

01:47:08.019 --> 01:47:11.758
those rules were created including dramatic transitions

01:47:11.769 --> 01:47:16.088
to mobile connectivity and higher speed broadband services

01:47:16.338 --> 01:47:19.157
Not to mention billions of dollars of state and federal

01:47:19.168 --> 01:47:22.099
investment in the deployment of more advanced networks

01:47:22.108 --> 01:47:27.028
to unserved and underserved parts of the state.

01:47:27.028 --> 01:47:29.407
Given changes in the telecommunications landscape.

01:47:29.418 --> 01:47:33.867
Since the Ker rules were adopted in 1996 the time is

01:47:33.878 --> 01:47:36.697
ripe for the commission to examine the Ker rules and

01:47:36.708 --> 01:47:41.657
consider changes and updates. Many changes in the telecommunications

01:47:41.668 --> 01:47:45.539
sphere have arisen since the color rules were adopted

01:47:45.548 --> 01:47:48.188
when the majority of phone users were using plain old

01:47:48.197 --> 01:47:51.489
telephone service or landline service on the traditional

01:47:51.499 --> 01:47:55.927
uh copper network. Whereas now many users also use

01:47:55.938 --> 01:47:59.168
other forms of voice service including cellular service

01:47:59.177 --> 01:48:02.989
over uh over wireless voice over internet protocol

01:48:03.559 --> 01:48:07.407
and broadband or advanced networks for data access

01:48:09.378 --> 01:48:12.648
When the color rules were adopted, carriers met their

01:48:12.657 --> 01:48:15.688
cooler obligation through landline telephone service

01:48:15.697 --> 01:48:19.088
on a legacy telephone network and typically still meet

01:48:19.099 --> 01:48:21.427
their obligation through service on that network. Today

01:48:22.228 --> 01:48:25.309
It's important to note however, that colors can meet

01:48:25.318 --> 01:48:28.798
their color obligations using any technology and are

01:48:28.809 --> 01:48:31.588
not limited to plain old telephone service, copper

01:48:31.599 --> 01:48:36.367
lines technology. While current callers are still performing

01:48:36.378 --> 01:48:39.387
their obligations through landline service over copper

01:48:39.398 --> 01:48:42.617
networks, the rules themselves are technology neutral

01:48:44.378 --> 01:48:47.438
We also recognize that the telecommunication landscape

01:48:47.447 --> 01:48:50.079
is increasingly shifting away from plain old telephone

01:48:50.088 --> 01:48:53.318
service or landline service to other forms of communication

01:48:53.728 --> 01:48:55.769
and that there's an increase in the number of alternative

01:48:55.778 --> 01:48:59.088
voice service providers. However, these alternative

01:48:59.099 --> 01:49:02.637
voice service providers are not designated followers

01:49:02.648 --> 01:49:05.809
may not necessarily provide universal service and are

01:49:05.818 --> 01:49:10.809
not obligated to provide universal service. This proposed

01:49:10.818 --> 01:49:13.499
rule making will consider changes and updates to the

01:49:13.508 --> 01:49:17.539
commission's rules for carriers of last resort, a carrier

01:49:17.548 --> 01:49:20.739
last resort or Ker again is a telecommunication service

01:49:20.749 --> 01:49:23.197
provider that receives a subsidy from the state and

01:49:23.208 --> 01:49:25.818
stands ready to provide basic telephone service which

01:49:25.829 --> 01:49:29.519
includes 911 access and other public service access

01:49:29.769 --> 01:49:33.117
to any customer requesting such service within a specified

01:49:33.128 --> 01:49:37.188
area. At least one telephone company in a specified

01:49:37.197 --> 01:49:40.617
area is legally required to provide access to basic

01:49:40.628 --> 01:49:43.769
service to anyone in its service territory who requests

01:49:43.778 --> 01:49:47.918
it. That's the coal obligation. It ensures that everyone

01:49:47.927 --> 01:49:51.249
in California has access to safe, reliable and affordable

01:49:51.258 --> 01:49:55.278
basic telephone service. The commission's rules regarding

01:49:55.289 --> 01:50:00.228
Fuller, which we'll also call color rules require a

01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.478
color in all service areas in the state accordingly

01:50:04.489 --> 01:50:08.039
Our rules establish that a provider that is a Ker can't

01:50:08.048 --> 01:50:11.508
be relieved of its co obligations in a particular area

01:50:11.978 --> 01:50:15.677
unless another carrier can serve as CO R in that same

01:50:15.688 --> 01:50:19.407
area. There are also requirements that the carrier

01:50:19.418 --> 01:50:22.387
must meet in order to be designated as and approved

01:50:22.398 --> 01:50:26.568
by the commission to be a killer.

01:50:26.568 --> 01:50:28.608
Some of the questions that will be covered in the rule

01:50:28.617 --> 01:50:32.117
making are if and how the commission should revise

01:50:32.128 --> 01:50:34.967
the color rules given these tensions and realities

01:50:34.978 --> 01:50:37.789
and changes in the landscape of the telecommunications

01:50:37.798 --> 01:50:42.208
industry. For example, one consideration is how to

01:50:42.217 --> 01:50:44.478
evaluate the color rules given the evolution of our

01:50:44.489 --> 01:50:46.947
networks and our state's commitment to investing in

01:50:46.958 --> 01:50:51.539
newer and advanced networks. We currently have a 100

01:50:51.548 --> 01:50:55.298
plus year old legacy telephone network infrastructure

01:50:55.309 --> 01:50:58.648
that is already uh present throughout the state and

01:50:58.657 --> 01:51:01.568
that has been used and continues to be used to provide

01:51:01.849 --> 01:51:06.269
universal service. Alongside that California along

01:51:06.278 --> 01:51:09.467
with the federal government have made clear our commitments

01:51:09.478 --> 01:51:12.338
and goals to bridge the digital divide and have poured

01:51:12.349 --> 01:51:15.088
grant funding to support investment in new advanced

01:51:15.099 --> 01:51:17.447
networks like broadband networks as we've been doing

01:51:17.458 --> 01:51:20.019
today.

01:51:20.019 --> 01:51:22.688
Some questions that arise from this to address in the

01:51:22.697 --> 01:51:25.188
rule making are generally how we should revise color

01:51:25.197 --> 01:51:28.148
rules in light of this network evolution. For example

01:51:28.157 --> 01:51:30.499
should we be putting in similar levels of investment

01:51:30.508 --> 01:51:33.398
in the legacy network as we are in advanced networks

01:51:33.407 --> 01:51:36.197
Given that the legacy network continues to provide

01:51:36.208 --> 01:51:41.958
universal service to parts of California

01:51:41.958 --> 01:51:45.258
for some Californians and emergency first responders

01:51:45.289 --> 01:51:48.427
Landline service has been the most reliable form of

01:51:48.438 --> 01:51:52.318
telephone service, especially during power outages

01:51:52.329 --> 01:51:56.269
and emergencies. This tension must also be considered

01:51:56.278 --> 01:51:58.838
in the examination of the Cola rules and the revisions

01:51:59.228 --> 01:52:01.708
The other question is how we should be adjusting our

01:52:01.717 --> 01:52:04.878
co expectations in light of the level of investment

01:52:04.887 --> 01:52:09.559
both state and private in new networks. I will also

01:52:09.568 --> 01:52:11.887
note that there's a physical infrastructure problem

01:52:11.898 --> 01:52:14.228
that should be addressed in consideration of our color

01:52:14.239 --> 01:52:17.407
rules. While there has been successful deployment of

01:52:17.418 --> 01:52:20.697
multiple services by multiple voice service providers

01:52:20.708 --> 01:52:24.088
in various parts of the state, there are still physical

01:52:24.099 --> 01:52:26.728
infrastructure challenges that impact service availability

01:52:27.818 --> 01:52:31.019
areas with higher population density have tended to

01:52:31.028 --> 01:52:34.048
see more providers offering service with higher levels

01:52:34.059 --> 01:52:36.289
of investment in infrastructure in these areas, with

01:52:36.298 --> 01:52:39.978
a denser customer base over a small footprint in a

01:52:39.989 --> 01:52:43.298
city like San Francisco. 1 may see a panoply of companies

01:52:43.309 --> 01:52:46.258
offering different services like end to end cellular

01:52:46.269 --> 01:52:49.958
network services, wired networks that offer DS L and

01:52:49.967 --> 01:52:52.867
fiber service and cable networks offering phone service

01:52:52.878 --> 01:52:55.717
and broadband service along with other solutions like

01:52:55.728 --> 01:53:00.398
hybrid fiber optic cabling with wireless links.

01:53:00.398 --> 01:53:03.418
However, there may still be physical issues that impact

01:53:03.427 --> 01:53:07.137
service availability and may provide barriers to the

01:53:07.148 --> 01:53:11.898
entry of new competitive uh offerings such as physical

01:53:11.907 --> 01:53:15.197
weight constraints on utility poles, access to rights

01:53:15.208 --> 01:53:17.778
of way and limited physical infrastructure that can

01:53:17.789 --> 01:53:21.398
prevent present these kinds of barriers.

01:53:21.398 --> 01:53:23.697
On the other hand, remote and less dense parts of the

01:53:23.708 --> 01:53:27.608
state may not see the same number of companies investing

01:53:27.617 --> 01:53:30.217
in and building out the network given the lower density

01:53:30.228 --> 01:53:32.838
of customers to serve. But the still high physical

01:53:32.849 --> 01:53:35.967
infrastructure costs to deliver a performing network

01:53:35.978 --> 01:53:40.999
for customers. Thus, we often see less investment in

01:53:41.008 --> 01:53:44.628
physical infrastructure in these remote areas. So I

01:53:44.637 --> 01:53:47.637
see this proposed rule making as a timely opportunity

01:53:47.648 --> 01:53:51.697
to address these important questions and others.

01:53:51.697 --> 01:53:54.858
While the rule making may result in a change to color

01:53:54.867 --> 01:53:57.798
rules. What will not change is the commission's commitment

01:53:57.809 --> 01:54:00.978
to universal service that provides safe, reliable and

01:54:00.989 --> 01:54:03.677
affordable communications for all Californians, regardless

01:54:03.688 --> 01:54:07.028
of a customer's location, financial circumstances or

01:54:07.039 --> 01:54:10.798
the remoteness and difficulty of the terrain. These

01:54:10.809 --> 01:54:12.708
are the very customers, the legislature and the commission

01:54:12.717 --> 01:54:16.108
designed the color rules to serve and protect and that

01:54:16.117 --> 01:54:19.269
commitment will not change.

01:54:19.269 --> 01:54:22.617
I'd like to take a moment to also discuss an item on

01:54:22.628 --> 01:54:26.137
the consent agenda item 50 on the dismissal of AT&T

01:54:26.148 --> 01:54:28.508
s application to be relieved of its core obligation

01:54:28.519 --> 01:54:30.887
which I think is a helpful frame for this rule making

01:54:32.079 --> 01:54:35.298
AT&T is the carrier of last resort in much of California

01:54:35.447 --> 01:54:38.099
Given that it holds the legacy telephone network in

01:54:38.108 --> 01:54:42.309
much of the state. On today's consent agenda, we voted

01:54:42.318 --> 01:54:45.309
to approve the decision, dismissing AT&T S application

01:54:45.407 --> 01:54:48.438
I'd like to take a moment to address AT&T S request

01:54:48.447 --> 01:54:52.108
to withdraw from its color obligations based on its

01:54:52.117 --> 01:54:54.728
interpretation of statute and commission rules that

01:54:54.739 --> 01:54:58.157
the commission may grant AT&T S request without an

01:54:58.168 --> 01:55:01.269
approved color replacement, obligated to provide basic

01:55:01.278 --> 01:55:04.559
service to anyone who asks for it.

01:55:04.559 --> 01:55:08.289
AT&T S interpretation is incorrect. And if the commission

01:55:08.298 --> 01:55:11.637
allowed AT&T to withdraw as a color without a replacement

01:55:11.648 --> 01:55:14.849
in place, this would defeat, defeat the purpose of

01:55:14.858 --> 01:55:17.499
the existing color rules that were designed to ensure

01:55:17.508 --> 01:55:20.588
universal service to all Californians in every territory

01:55:21.478 --> 01:55:24.867
Our vote to dismiss AT&T S application made clear that

01:55:24.878 --> 01:55:27.519
we will protect customers access to basic telephone

01:55:27.528 --> 01:55:30.668
service no matter where customers live, their income

01:55:30.677 --> 01:55:33.579
or their access to other forms of communication. Our

01:55:33.668 --> 01:55:36.739
rules were designed to provide that assurance and AT&T

01:55:36.749 --> 01:55:40.519
S application did not follow our rules. I'd like to

01:55:40.528 --> 01:55:44.398
address a few assertions uh that arose in the course

01:55:44.407 --> 01:55:48.249
of that proceeding. Um Just for again, framing for

01:55:48.258 --> 01:55:54.728
this uh oar for example, we heard from AT&T that um

01:55:56.418 --> 01:56:01.519
its relief from polar obligations was a necessary path

01:56:01.568 --> 01:56:04.798
to move forward with modernizing its network and bridging

01:56:04.809 --> 01:56:09.387
the digital divide. AT&T notably does not dispute that

01:56:09.398 --> 01:56:12.458
it is invested in and is continuing to invest in modernizing

01:56:12.467 --> 01:56:16.298
its network. Nothing in the color rules prevent AT&T

01:56:16.309 --> 01:56:19.708
or any color from meeting color obligations using another

01:56:19.717 --> 01:56:23.157
technology other than copper lines or from investing

01:56:23.168 --> 01:56:26.407
in other advanced technologies. The question is not

01:56:26.418 --> 01:56:30.048
what technology a caller may use to meet its obligations

01:56:30.059 --> 01:56:33.309
but rather whether a carrier is obligated to provide

01:56:33.318 --> 01:56:36.499
basic telephone service to anyone who requests it in

01:56:36.508 --> 01:56:40.148
their service territory.

01:56:40.148 --> 01:56:42.637
I'd also like to highlight that the existence at one

01:56:42.648 --> 01:56:46.548
point in time of other providers or an area does not

01:56:46.559 --> 01:56:49.789
necessarily and permanently fulfill the same purpose

01:56:49.798 --> 01:56:53.338
as our color rules carriers can and do change their

01:56:53.349 --> 01:56:56.999
service offerings. Some carriers rely on the infrastructure

01:56:57.008 --> 01:57:00.758
of others to offer service and their service may degrade

01:57:00.769 --> 01:57:03.398
if the carrier they rely on does not maintain its physical

01:57:03.407 --> 01:57:07.967
network, allowing AT&T s color withdrawal in certain

01:57:07.978 --> 01:57:11.008
areas based on existence of alternative voice service

01:57:11.019 --> 01:57:13.608
providers in those areas would not meet our existing

01:57:13.617 --> 01:57:17.079
rules and would not provide the same assurance of access

01:57:17.378 --> 01:57:21.657
to universal service as our rules provide, there are

01:57:21.668 --> 01:57:24.478
no callers other than AT&T in the service territories

01:57:24.489 --> 01:57:27.637
that they're seeking to exit. Thus, no one would be

01:57:27.648 --> 01:57:31.157
obligated to provide basic service and Californians

01:57:31.168 --> 01:57:33.798
could be left without telephone service in those areas

01:57:35.188 --> 01:57:38.427
I also want to note that we received extensive engagement

01:57:38.438 --> 01:57:41.137
from members of the public who overwhelmingly urged

01:57:41.148 --> 01:57:44.829
us to reject AT&T S application to be relieved of its

01:57:44.838 --> 01:57:49.289
coal obligations. We received over 5000 public comments

01:57:49.298 --> 01:57:52.588
on the application proceeding DACA and we held eight

01:57:52.599 --> 01:57:55.947
public participation hearings in three cities. And

01:57:55.958 --> 01:57:59.068
virtually with the last virtual hearing lasting over

01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:04.249
five hours until 1130 pm, drawing more than 5800 attendees

01:58:04.258 --> 01:58:08.717
and around 400 comments, numerous commenters at our

01:58:08.728 --> 01:58:12.008
live public participation hearings drove for hours

01:58:12.019 --> 01:58:14.289
to reach these hearings and make their voices heard

01:58:15.499 --> 01:58:18.548
Many commenters stated that alternative voice service

01:58:18.559 --> 01:58:20.849
such as cellular phone service or voice over internet

01:58:20.858 --> 01:58:24.048
protocol was either not available in their areas due

01:58:24.059 --> 01:58:26.688
to a lack of alternative service service providers

01:58:27.289 --> 01:58:30.099
or did not have reliable service that consistently

01:58:30.108 --> 01:58:34.137
enabled calls at home. Many commenters voiced concern

01:58:34.148 --> 01:58:36.717
about the reliability of alternative voice services

01:58:36.728 --> 01:58:40.338
during an emergency and expressed a desire for a landline

01:58:40.349 --> 01:58:44.108
during a disaster or emergency. Many commented that

01:58:44.117 --> 01:58:47.378
a 911 dispatcher would know the caller's exact location

01:58:47.387 --> 01:58:50.447
immediately on a landline, which is not necessarily

01:58:50.458 --> 01:58:54.367
the case on non landline service. We also heard from

01:58:54.378 --> 01:58:57.177
commenters who pointed to public safety messages they

01:58:57.188 --> 01:58:59.668
have heard during outages that they should use a landline

01:58:59.677 --> 01:59:04.249
to contact loved ones or public safety services.

01:59:04.249 --> 01:59:06.769
Some participants also shared their experience with

01:59:06.778 --> 01:59:09.878
and preference for landline features that assist communication

01:59:09.887 --> 01:59:12.418
for those that are disabled, hard of hearing or visually

01:59:12.427 --> 01:59:16.677
impaired. Many commenters including some who identify

01:59:16.688 --> 01:59:19.258
as seniors or caretakers and family members of seniors

01:59:19.269 --> 01:59:22.739
also expressed that there and their loved ones familiarity

01:59:22.749 --> 01:59:25.978
with the plain old telephone system made it easier

01:59:25.989 --> 01:59:28.048
for them to connect with their loved ones or to get

01:59:28.059 --> 01:59:30.599
help in an emergency rather than using a cell phone

01:59:30.608 --> 01:59:34.258
that they may not be as comfortable with. Other commenters

01:59:34.269 --> 01:59:36.717
expressed frustration regarding their customer service

01:59:36.728 --> 01:59:39.999
experience with AT&T when experiencing poor service

01:59:40.008 --> 01:59:43.657
quality during storms and service outages and express

01:59:43.668 --> 01:59:47.769
a difficulty in retaining plain old telephone service

01:59:47.778 --> 01:59:51.947
when communicating with AT&T S customer service. While

01:59:51.958 --> 01:59:54.579
these public comments were not dispositive, they certainly

01:59:54.588 --> 01:59:57.867
provide valuable insight into the tensions and concerns

01:59:58.039 --> 01:59:59.878
that members of the public hold.

01:59:59.887 --> 02:00:03.147
And we evaluate color obligations of not just AT&T

02:00:03.156 --> 02:00:06.217
but of any color and when reexamining the color rules

02:00:06.227 --> 02:00:11.287
in this rule making, um Before I turn it over to other

02:00:11.297 --> 02:00:13.656
commissioners for comments and back to President Reynolds

02:00:13.666 --> 02:00:16.266
I do want to thank and recognize a number of people

02:00:16.277 --> 02:00:19.617
for the tremendous amount of work and the application

02:00:19.628 --> 02:00:21.597
proceeding and development of the order instituting

02:00:21.606 --> 02:00:24.336
rule making and the efforts in engaging with as many

02:00:24.347 --> 02:00:27.077
Californians as possible on this important issue. I'd

02:00:27.086 --> 02:00:30.257
like to thank uh Judge Kola for his careful and thoughtful

02:00:30.266 --> 02:00:33.438
deliberations and handling of this case. I also want

02:00:33.447 --> 02:00:36.496
to recognize the additional support of a LJ division

02:00:36.508 --> 02:00:39.296
from assistant chief A LJS Colbert and mcdonald. I

02:00:39.786 --> 02:00:42.536
want to thank the public advisor's office it and support

02:00:42.546 --> 02:00:46.267
staff, particularly Joyce Crock, Alison Brown, Eric

02:00:46.277 --> 02:00:50.258
Sawyer, Claudia Sanchez, Joseph Haga, Jacob Willman

02:00:50.267 --> 02:00:52.587
Christine Walden for their work in coordinating and

02:00:52.597 --> 02:00:55.246
executing the many public participation hearings. One

02:00:55.258 --> 02:00:58.218
of which as I mentioned before lasted until 11:30 p.m.

02:00:58.878 --> 02:01:01.796
I also want to recognize uh Ken Holbrook for his outreach

02:01:01.807 --> 02:01:05.656
to tribes on the subject of AT&T s application. I'd

02:01:05.668 --> 02:01:08.128
like to thank legal division and Lindsey Brown for

02:01:08.138 --> 02:01:11.168
her efforts on this proceeding. I want to thank communications

02:01:11.177 --> 02:01:14.778
division including Director Rob Osborne and Ben Menzies

02:01:14.787 --> 02:01:17.498
for their insights in the background and historical

02:01:17.507 --> 02:01:20.358
context of the universal service rules, as well as

02:01:20.367 --> 02:01:22.716
coordinations and technical advice during this proceeding

02:01:23.427 --> 02:01:26.378
Thanks also to external affairs including Tyler Gamble

02:01:26.388 --> 02:01:29.367
and Terry prosper for their work on crafting clear

02:01:29.378 --> 02:01:31.686
external communications to the public on this matter

02:01:32.358 --> 02:01:34.888
Thanks to the Office of Governmental Affairs, including

02:01:34.897 --> 02:01:38.697
Christy Steer Diana, Nel Nielsen Kendra Norton and

02:01:38.707 --> 02:01:40.656
Hank Brady for their assistance and support on this

02:01:40.668 --> 02:01:44.397
matter. Thanks to my bag, the keen partner, Commissioner

02:01:44.406 --> 02:01:47.966
Hae and her lead advisor M Victor Smith for their partnership

02:01:47.977 --> 02:01:51.367
and valuable input on the application. Lastly, I want

02:01:51.378 --> 02:01:54.097
to thank my office staff, lead advisor Carolyn Chen

02:01:54.108 --> 02:01:56.406
and former lead advisor Sasha Goldberg for their work

02:01:56.418 --> 02:01:59.278
on this case. So as my chief of staff, Suzanne Thompson

02:01:59.287 --> 02:02:01.697
and Adviser Maria Sotero for their guidance at critical

02:02:01.707 --> 02:02:05.216
points. And uh Pr Man Rica is in my office for her

02:02:05.227 --> 02:02:07.697
coordinations of my engagement and involvement in meeting

02:02:07.707 --> 02:02:09.906
with members of the public in the public participation

02:02:09.916 --> 02:02:13.966
hearings on this matter. I also want to express appreciation

02:02:13.977 --> 02:02:16.527
for the many Californians who attended and made their

02:02:16.537 --> 02:02:19.386
voices heard whether at our public hearings through

02:02:19.398 --> 02:02:22.537
our preceding docket tab, their letters to us on the

02:02:22.547 --> 02:02:26.368
important issue of co obligations with that I will

02:02:26.378 --> 02:02:29.727
be supporting the order instituting rule making and

02:02:29.738 --> 02:02:32.847
I will turn back to you President Reynolds. Thank you

02:02:32.857 --> 02:02:36.466
Commissioner Reynolds. Uh Commissioner Hauck, thank

02:02:36.477 --> 02:02:39.166
you, President Reynolds I wanted to acknowledge and

02:02:39.178 --> 02:02:42.527
thank Commissioner Reynolds for um, all of the work

02:02:42.537 --> 02:02:45.656
that he and his office did on this very important rulemaking

02:02:46.178 --> 02:02:48.648
Um I'm pleased to see the rulemaking on our agenda

02:02:48.656 --> 02:02:53.208
today. The carrier of last resort or koir, um as was

02:02:53.216 --> 02:02:55.577
stated by Commissioner Reynolds is gonna provide an

02:02:55.588 --> 02:02:58.267
update to the commission's universal service. Caller

02:02:58.277 --> 02:03:01.227
rules. Commissioner Reynolds provided an excellent

02:03:01.238 --> 02:03:04.118
summary of the historical context and importance of

02:03:04.128 --> 02:03:08.178
these rules and of universal service. Um I agree that

02:03:08.186 --> 02:03:10.838
ensuring a caller for hard to reach areas of the state

02:03:10.847 --> 02:03:14.597
is critical to ensuring universal service for all Californians

02:03:15.007 --> 02:03:18.447
As was mentioned AT&T filed an application to be relieved

02:03:18.458 --> 02:03:22.547
of its caller obligations across wide swaths of California

02:03:22.588 --> 02:03:26.618
This was um discussed by Commissioner Reynolds and

02:03:26.628 --> 02:03:30.067
the application um was subject to significant debate

02:03:30.077 --> 02:03:34.088
We received comments that um assumed maintaining a

02:03:34.097 --> 02:03:37.027
caller obligation would somehow prevent the caller

02:03:37.037 --> 02:03:40.148
from updating their system with new technology in their

02:03:40.156 --> 02:03:42.697
service territory. I just want to reiterate what um

02:03:42.708 --> 02:03:45.656
Commissioner Reynolds said that the current caller

02:03:45.666 --> 02:03:48.368
rules do not prevent a caller from upgrading their

02:03:48.378 --> 02:03:51.178
facilities or modernizing infrastructure within their

02:03:51.186 --> 02:03:56.246
service territory. Um Earlier today, we dismissed AT&T

02:03:56.257 --> 02:03:59.757
S application. However, by initiating this rule making

02:03:59.767 --> 02:04:02.746
we also recognize that communications landscape has

02:04:02.757 --> 02:04:05.458
changed significantly since the last update to the

02:04:05.466 --> 02:04:08.781
caller rules. Um while the technologies that people

02:04:08.791 --> 02:04:11.902
rely on change we want to ensure that our guiding principles

02:04:11.912 --> 02:04:15.162
remain those of universal service, ensuring the availability

02:04:15.172 --> 02:04:18.322
of affordable reliable communication services that

02:04:18.332 --> 02:04:21.491
will function for all Californians. The rule making

02:04:21.503 --> 02:04:24.122
we're initiating today will consider whether and how

02:04:24.132 --> 02:04:26.983
to revise our call rules. In addition to determining

02:04:26.991 --> 02:04:29.642
whether the collar rules are still necessary, we'll

02:04:29.652 --> 02:04:33.406
determine whether other services, other service providers

02:04:33.418 --> 02:04:36.926
such as VoIP or wire wireless providers can be callers

02:04:37.067 --> 02:04:39.628
We do not undertake this rule making lightly and I

02:04:39.637 --> 02:04:42.147
understand that many people in California are still

02:04:42.156 --> 02:04:46.228
reliant on wired service and any changes that we make

02:04:46.236 --> 02:04:49.156
to the caller rules will be thoroughly considered.

02:04:49.168 --> 02:04:51.716
And the principles again, of universal service are

02:04:51.728 --> 02:04:55.337
top of mind for all of us. So with that, I want

02:04:55.348 --> 02:04:58.937
to again thank um, Commissioner Reynolds, his advisor

02:04:58.947 --> 02:05:01.858
um Carolyn Shen, his former advisor Sasha Goldberg

02:05:01.866 --> 02:05:04.517
for all of their work diligence and thoughtfulness

02:05:04.527 --> 02:05:08.647
in um, the work they did on the, the application and

02:05:08.656 --> 02:05:12.567
putting this oir together. Um I'd like to thank all

02:05:12.577 --> 02:05:16.306
of the staff that were listed by um, Commissioner Reynolds

02:05:16.497 --> 02:05:20.087
and specifically, um Judge Gli Gola and Lindsay Brown

02:05:20.098 --> 02:05:23.048
for all of the work that, that they did. And my adviser

02:05:23.056 --> 02:05:27.486
Victor Smith for um all of his excellent work and um

02:05:27.497 --> 02:05:32.366
making sure that um, I was up to speed on everything

02:05:32.378 --> 02:05:37.298
including the 1996 decision. Um And with that I will

02:05:37.306 --> 02:05:41.978
be supporting this rule making. Thank you. Um Any other

02:05:41.986 --> 02:05:45.747
comments um I just want to echo what my colleagues

02:05:45.757 --> 02:05:47.986
have said and I too will be supporting this rule making

02:05:48.806 --> 02:05:52.937
All right, uh Commissioner Douglas,

02:05:52.937 --> 02:05:57.197
um thank you. I will also be supporting this rule making

02:05:57.207 --> 02:06:02.116
I think it's a really good and important opportunity

02:06:02.128 --> 02:06:06.056
um to take in additional input from uh not only our

02:06:06.067 --> 02:06:10.918
staff, uh customers, utilities and the public into

02:06:10.926 --> 02:06:15.957
whether and how um changing market conditions and technological

02:06:15.966 --> 02:06:19.538
advancements, warrant revisions to the caller rules

02:06:20.048 --> 02:06:23.517
and um through this new proceeding, the commission

02:06:23.527 --> 02:06:29.616
can um look at these issues and, and um move forward

02:06:29.628 --> 02:06:33.137
in a way that appropriately meets the needs of Californians

02:06:33.147 --> 02:06:37.798
in uh safeguarding access to essential services. So

02:06:37.806 --> 02:06:41.207
um as as I noted, I support this and look forward to

02:06:41.216 --> 02:06:46.098
seeing the rule making um uh progress. Thank you. Great

02:06:46.108 --> 02:06:49.777
Thank you, Commissioner Douglas. Um I am supportive

02:06:49.788 --> 02:06:53.288
of this new OIR and I just wanted to emphasize a couple

02:06:53.298 --> 02:06:56.567
of things especially um the comments made by Commissioner

02:06:56.577 --> 02:07:01.616
Reynolds. Um As you heard the Cola rules safeguard

02:07:01.628 --> 02:07:04.777
telephone service by ensuring Californians have access

02:07:04.788 --> 02:07:07.716
to at least one telephone company that offers reliable

02:07:07.728 --> 02:07:13.257
service access to 911 customer protections and um offer

02:07:13.267 --> 02:07:16.288
affordable service through the state's lifeline program

02:07:16.926 --> 02:07:20.437
Um I wanted to recognize that the companies that serve

02:07:20.447 --> 02:07:24.267
as callers are essential to ensuring universal telephone

02:07:24.277 --> 02:07:28.187
service, especially in our rural areas of California

02:07:28.298 --> 02:07:32.507
with limited or no alternative providers. Um And I

02:07:32.517 --> 02:07:35.788
also think it's important to to just note that we do

02:07:35.798 --> 02:07:39.306
subsidize the callers through our high cost fund programs

02:07:39.317 --> 02:07:42.187
to offset the cost of providing service in these remote

02:07:42.197 --> 02:07:47.267
areas. Um The rules reflect the public's expectation

02:07:47.277 --> 02:07:51.827
that all use utility services be dependable and we

02:07:51.837 --> 02:07:54.587
have heard significant support for these protections

02:07:54.598 --> 02:07:58.548
from the public, elected officials and emergency responders

02:08:00.197 --> 02:08:02.788
But many things have also changed. Commissioner, uh

02:08:02.798 --> 02:08:05.497
Reynolds walked us through a little bit of the history

02:08:05.507 --> 02:08:10.257
Um The telecom, it changes have occurred in the telecom

02:08:10.267 --> 02:08:13.548
industry since the rules were enacted. Uh nearly 30

02:08:13.556 --> 02:08:16.858
years ago, we know that many people have shifted from

02:08:16.866 --> 02:08:21.168
landline service um to cell phone service and uh cell

02:08:21.176 --> 02:08:24.466
phone service has become ubiquitous. Additionally,

02:08:24.478 --> 02:08:28.517
newer technologies such as cable, fiber and fixed wireless

02:08:28.527 --> 02:08:32.068
and satellite offer competitive services to the traditional

02:08:32.078 --> 02:08:36.718
large monopoly telephone companies. But most importantly

02:08:36.727 --> 02:08:39.847
our mandate to provide Californians with universal

02:08:39.857 --> 02:08:43.686
service has involved to include access to high quality

02:08:43.698 --> 02:08:47.367
and affordable broadband services.

02:08:47.367 --> 02:08:50.436
I am very supportive of opening this rule making. I'm

02:08:50.448 --> 02:08:53.708
hopeful that the cola requirements and the high cost

02:08:53.718 --> 02:08:58.536
funds will evolve to meet the long term needs of Californians

02:08:58.968 --> 02:09:01.897
Um A and especially those Californians that remain

02:09:01.907 --> 02:09:05.556
without sufficient broadband service. So I'm hopeful

02:09:05.568 --> 02:09:08.907
that through this new rule making, we can really modernize

02:09:08.916 --> 02:09:13.286
these programs and uh move towards the future to meet

02:09:13.296 --> 02:09:19.267
our broadband for all objectives. Um With that I will

02:09:19.277 --> 02:09:23.948
now be asking for a vote on the item or motion do

02:09:23.958 --> 02:09:30.036
we have a motion on item 51 so and a second. Ok

02:09:30.046 --> 02:09:33.718
We have a motion and a second on item 51 agenda clerk

02:09:33.727 --> 02:09:36.137
Could you please call the roll? Commissioner Baker

02:09:36.828 --> 02:09:41.828
Commissioner Douglas. Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds

02:09:42.597 --> 02:09:46.597
Commissioner President Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote

02:09:46.607 --> 02:09:51.338
is 50 item 51 passes.

02:09:51.338 --> 02:09:55.637
Um ok, thank you. And I will next move to item 52

02:09:55.647 --> 02:10:01.088
on the regular agenda. Item 52 is management reports

02:10:01.767 --> 02:10:04.977
and we have no management reports today. So that takes

02:10:04.987 --> 02:10:09.318
us to item 53. Item 53 is commissioner reports. And

02:10:09.328 --> 02:10:12.477
we have several uh two specific items under commissioner

02:10:12.487 --> 02:10:17.407
reports. The first one is item 53 uh which is um, the

02:10:17.416 --> 02:10:20.568
reappointments and new appointments by the puc to the

02:10:20.578 --> 02:10:23.436
disadvantaged community advisory group. Commissioner

02:10:23.448 --> 02:10:26.847
Baker is going to be presenting this item.

02:10:26.847 --> 02:10:30.628
Yes, thank you. Is there a comment? I think Commissioner

02:10:30.637 --> 02:10:33.166
Baker is going to be addressing the low income oversight

02:10:33.176 --> 02:10:37.936
board. Yeah. And then, and there, there's another item

02:10:37.948 --> 02:10:41.237
which is item 54 we'll go to next. Ok. So now we're

02:10:41.247 --> 02:10:46.286
on item 53 and we'll go to Commissioner Baker.

02:10:46.286 --> 02:10:48.977
Yes, thank you. Uh, from its inception in the early

02:10:48.987 --> 02:10:51.647
two thousands, the low income oversight board, the

02:10:51.657 --> 02:10:55.328
liob has played an important role in advising the commission

02:10:55.338 --> 02:10:59.727
on low income programs, uh and low income issue, customer

02:10:59.737 --> 02:11:03.708
issues. Um, and this is a very important function especially

02:11:03.718 --> 02:11:06.166
now where we have one out of every three customers

02:11:06.176 --> 02:11:09.546
on low income rate assistance programs and many are

02:11:09.556 --> 02:11:13.338
behind on their energy bills. Our most valuable, most

02:11:13.347 --> 02:11:16.426
vulnerable customers need both immediately immediate

02:11:16.436 --> 02:11:20.916
and long term relief. Um I look w I look forward to

02:11:20.926 --> 02:11:25.176
the uh Lio Bs continued work in this space in this

02:11:25.186 --> 02:11:27.757
vein. I'm requesting your approval for the following

02:11:27.767 --> 02:11:32.897
reappointments to the liob for two year terms. Um And

02:11:32.907 --> 02:11:35.357
I'm just gonna talk a little bit about each one of

02:11:35.367 --> 02:11:39.777
the folks uh as we go forward. Uh So we have Mr

02:11:39.786 --> 02:11:43.997
John Tang, we have Mr Jason Wembley, we have Miss Patricia

02:11:44.007 --> 02:11:49.546
Watts, Miss Lisa Castell Leon and Mr Paul Irwin. Uh

02:11:49.556 --> 02:11:52.987
Mr Jason Wembley has been the Chief Deputy of the California

02:11:52.997 --> 02:11:56.328
Development of community services and development uh

02:11:56.338 --> 02:12:02.676
since 2013. Um He has had extensive experience working

02:12:02.686 --> 02:12:05.468
with local governments, utility companies, community

02:12:05.477 --> 02:12:08.977
based organizations, uh especially those that are uh

02:12:08.987 --> 02:12:12.458
supporting energy initiatives in low income and disadvantaged

02:12:12.468 --> 02:12:15.987
communities. MS Patricia Watts is the chief executive

02:12:15.997 --> 02:12:20.007
officer of FC I management consultants which offer

02:12:20.017 --> 02:12:24.036
broad level of expertise in energy and water efficiency

02:12:24.046 --> 02:12:27.867
services and been engaged over the last two decades

02:12:28.407 --> 02:12:33.926
Uh MS Lisa Caste Leon is the community is, is the community

02:12:33.936 --> 02:12:38.128
development and tribal manager for the nonprofit organization

02:12:38.137 --> 02:12:41.097
Grid Alternatives where she is focused on bringing

02:12:41.107 --> 02:12:44.507
renewable energy solutions to underserved communities

02:12:44.517 --> 02:12:49.296
for over 14 years. And Mr Paul Irwin is the executive

02:12:49.306 --> 02:12:53.588
housing director of the North Fork Fork Rancheria Indian

02:12:53.597 --> 02:12:57.958
Housing Authority in, in Madera County. Mr Irwin directs

02:12:57.968 --> 02:13:01.378
affordable housing community development and transportation

02:13:01.387 --> 02:13:05.416
activities for the North Fork Rancheria of Mono Indians

02:13:05.426 --> 02:13:09.286
of California. And then finally, Mr John Tang is the

02:13:09.296 --> 02:13:11.887
Vice president of Regulatory Affairs and government

02:13:11.897 --> 02:13:15.007
relations for the San Jose Water Company. He has over

02:13:15.017 --> 02:13:18.727
27 years of experience in the field and his role has

02:13:18.737 --> 02:13:22.527
featured uh administering low income initiatives such

02:13:22.536 --> 02:13:25.296
as water rate assistance such as the water rate assistance

02:13:25.306 --> 02:13:30.767
program. Um I wanna add, you know, the low income um

02:13:31.628 --> 02:13:36.007
oversight board has, is a volunteer board. Its members

02:13:36.017 --> 02:13:39.007
are reimbursed only for a very small fraction of their

02:13:39.017 --> 02:13:42.708
time. And the fact that this group of people has uh

02:13:42.718 --> 02:13:45.936
you know, is continuing to wanna be engaged in these

02:13:45.948 --> 02:13:49.468
issues, I think speaks very highly of them. Um And

02:13:49.477 --> 02:13:52.306
I respectfully ask for your support in reappointing

02:13:52.318 --> 02:13:56.347
these nominees. Thank you and apologize. I did misspeak

02:13:56.357 --> 02:13:59.977
and this is the item 53 is the um Low Income Oversight

02:13:59.987 --> 02:14:02.338
Board appoint reappointments and new appointments.

02:14:02.718 --> 02:14:07.176
Um So, uh do we have comment other comments from commissioners

02:14:08.338 --> 02:14:14.277
No. Ok. Um uh Mister Douglas Douglas. Thank you. Thank

02:14:14.286 --> 02:14:17.378
you. Thank you.

02:14:17.378 --> 02:14:22.247
Oh, hang on one second. Hang on.

02:14:22.247 --> 02:14:26.718
All right. I think this will be better. Um So I wanted

02:14:26.727 --> 02:14:31.107
to just speak briefly in support of, of these reappoints

02:14:31.117 --> 02:14:34.708
um for all five of the current Low Income Oversight

02:14:34.718 --> 02:14:38.666
Board members. Um I've had the pleasure of attending

02:14:39.128 --> 02:14:42.737
several of the Lio BS quarterly meetings at this point

02:14:42.747 --> 02:14:45.588
And I've seen the important work that they do and,

02:14:45.597 --> 02:14:50.318
and um participated in some of the discussions um that

02:14:50.328 --> 02:14:54.338
the board members have had and, and um there's a lot

02:14:54.347 --> 02:14:59.218
of value in the work that the Laob does as uh um

02:14:59.568 --> 02:15:05.458
in terms of uh liaising with community groups and helping

02:15:05.468 --> 02:15:11.676
facilitate uh information from um different community

02:15:11.686 --> 02:15:15.318
groups and, and uh people really around the state in

02:15:15.328 --> 02:15:18.536
their, from, from their meetings. Um And having that

02:15:18.546 --> 02:15:22.777
come to the board and come to the CPUC, um each of

02:15:22.786 --> 02:15:25.588
the board members being appointed today or reappointed

02:15:25.597 --> 02:15:28.657
have brought their unique backgrounds and valuable

02:15:28.666 --> 02:15:34.017
perspective to the work of the board. Um And uh I think

02:15:34.027 --> 02:15:38.968
that we're, you know, I, I'm just very uh pleased that

02:15:38.977 --> 02:15:42.448
they're um coming forward for reappointment today.

02:15:42.458 --> 02:15:44.657
Thank you.

02:15:44.657 --> 02:15:48.097
Thank you, Commissioner Douglas. Um I will just express

02:15:48.107 --> 02:15:51.818
my appreciation also for the board members, both the

02:15:51.828 --> 02:15:55.458
um members who are new appointments um and are willing

02:15:55.468 --> 02:15:58.497
to serve and the reappointments. This is a true public

02:15:58.507 --> 02:16:01.357
service and it's very important to the commission.

02:16:01.367 --> 02:16:05.036
And so I really appreciate these individuals um being

02:16:05.046 --> 02:16:07.597
willing to step up and participate and I know that

02:16:07.857 --> 02:16:10.477
all of the commissioners appreciate the work of the

02:16:10.487 --> 02:16:13.477
um low Income Oversight Board. So this is, these are

02:16:13.487 --> 02:16:17.267
very important appointments. Um All right. So with

02:16:17.277 --> 02:16:22.407
that, I'll ask for a vote on item 53

02:16:22.407 --> 02:16:26.588
a motion. Is there a motion on item 53

02:16:26.588 --> 02:16:32.546
and is there a second second? Ok. We have a motion

02:16:32.556 --> 02:16:35.607
and a second on item 53 agenda clerk. Could you please

02:16:35.617 --> 02:16:38.977
call the roll? Commissioner Baker? Commissioner Douglas

02:16:40.166 --> 02:16:43.897
Yes, Commissioner John Reynolds. Yes. Commissioner

02:16:44.318 --> 02:16:49.186
H yes, President Alice Reynolds. Yes, the vote is 50

02:16:49.588 --> 02:16:54.338
The item passes. All right, we now are going to item

02:16:54.347 --> 02:16:59.556
54. Item 54 is the approval of reappointments and new

02:16:59.568 --> 02:17:02.338
appointments uh to the Disadvantaged Communities advisory

02:17:02.347 --> 02:17:06.167
group, Commissioner Hal. Thank you, President Reynolds

02:17:06.298 --> 02:17:10.607
Um So item 54 there's a memorandum from both Commissioner

02:17:10.617 --> 02:17:13.446
Douglas and I um regarding the new appointment to the

02:17:13.456 --> 02:17:17.746
Disadvantaged Community Advisory Group, um, the advisory

02:17:17.758 --> 02:17:20.567
group is a critical tool for the California Public

02:17:20.577 --> 02:17:23.196
Utilities Commission and the California Energy Commission

02:17:23.206 --> 02:17:26.647
In our decis decision making process, the 11 member

02:17:26.657 --> 02:17:30.018
body reviews and provides input on clean energy programs

02:17:30.028 --> 02:17:32.847
and policies to ensure that vulnerable communities

02:17:32.966 --> 02:17:35.417
including tribal and rural communities are able to

02:17:35.427 --> 02:17:38.508
provide both commissions with important perspective

02:17:38.518 --> 02:17:40.907
from the communities that have historically been left

02:17:40.976 --> 02:17:45.867
out of our processes. On May 9th 2024 the commission

02:17:45.878 --> 02:17:49.878
approved the reappointment of two day tag members and

02:17:49.887 --> 02:17:53.268
appointment of three new members um to replace. So

02:17:53.278 --> 02:17:55.746
it was a appointment, we approved the reappointment

02:17:55.758 --> 02:17:59.258
of two and then appointment of three new members. Um

02:17:59.268 --> 02:18:04.667
And two weeks later on May 21st day tag member uh Sarah

02:18:04.677 --> 02:18:08.077
Uzan resigned leaving a seat vacant for appointment

02:18:08.357 --> 02:18:12.357
So through the CPUC and C ECs recent solicitation to

02:18:12.367 --> 02:18:17.758
fill the um three member vacancies, cite forth all

02:18:17.768 --> 02:18:20.726
uh was identified as first in line to be recommended

02:18:20.736 --> 02:18:24.397
for an appointment. Should another vacancy arise? Um

02:18:25.558 --> 02:18:28.308
Cite is the founder of a nonprofit organization with

02:18:28.317 --> 02:18:31.298
a mission to make solar energy and other clean technologies

02:18:31.308 --> 02:18:33.917
accessible and affordable for all residents throughout

02:18:33.927 --> 02:18:37.196
Orange County, especially in the underserved communities

02:18:37.206 --> 02:18:40.298
as a trained clean energy and sustainability professional

02:18:40.308 --> 02:18:43.216
with significant experience on social and climate justice

02:18:43.226 --> 02:18:47.637
issues. MS Thoral serves in key roles including sustainability

02:18:47.647 --> 02:18:50.133
commissioner for the city, Irvine and several other

02:18:50.143 --> 02:18:53.112
councils related to sustainable affordable and zero

02:18:53.122 --> 02:18:57.262
emission solutions. The ce C approved miss um forth

02:18:57.654 --> 02:19:01.424
um was a day tag member at their recent voting meeting

02:19:01.434 --> 02:19:05.414
on June 12th and if approved today miss forth will

02:19:05.424 --> 02:19:08.102
be confirmed to complete the term of the resigning

02:19:08.112 --> 02:19:12.990
member through March 31st, 2025. So again, I wanna

02:19:12.999 --> 02:19:16.230
thank um our energy division staff, especially Cheryl

02:19:16.240 --> 02:19:19.668
Cox for managing the entire solicitation process as

02:19:19.679 --> 02:19:22.668
well as Vanessa Baldwin, who provides legal division

02:19:22.679 --> 02:19:26.689
support for the advisory group. And um with that, I

02:19:26.699 --> 02:19:31.668
would ask for your um support and um would like to

02:19:31.679 --> 02:19:33.878
ask permission to hand off to Commissioner Douglas

02:19:33.888 --> 02:19:37.496
to see if she had any comments. Wonderful Commissioner

02:19:37.508 --> 02:19:41.456
Douglas. Um Yes. Thank you, President Reynolds. Thank

02:19:41.466 --> 02:19:43.587
you, Commissioner Howe because as Commissioner Hauck

02:19:43.746 --> 02:19:49.486
noted, um she and I uh submitted this jointly and I

02:19:49.496 --> 02:19:52.196
join in her comments. I joined in the thanks that she

02:19:52.206 --> 02:19:57.226
provided and, and I am um likewise very supportive

02:19:57.236 --> 02:20:03.597
of, of um this new member and the overall work of the

02:20:03.607 --> 02:20:08.087
day cag. And um so I, I think that's all I have

02:20:08.097 --> 02:20:11.486
right now. Thank you. Thank you, other commissioners

02:20:12.687 --> 02:20:18.187
No. OK. Um Again, I wanted to express my appreciation

02:20:18.196 --> 02:20:20.857
for all of the members of the day C A for their

02:20:20.867 --> 02:20:24.808
service. Um, and then also to, um, m forth all in,

02:20:24.817 --> 02:20:28.788
in her willingness to serve. Um, I am very pleased

02:20:28.798 --> 02:20:31.607
to be supporting this item and I'll ask for a motion

02:20:31.617 --> 02:20:36.298
on item 54.

02:20:36.298 --> 02:20:40.187
Um, I'll remove item 54.

02:20:40.187 --> 02:20:42.736
Ok. So we have a motion by Commissioner Douglas. Would

02:20:42.746 --> 02:20:45.417
you like to second commissioner? Ok. And a second from

02:20:45.427 --> 02:20:48.696
Commissioner ha um, we have a motion and a second on

02:20:48.706 --> 02:20:51.637
item 54 agenda. Clerk. Could you please call the roll

02:20:51.647 --> 02:20:56.837
Commissioner Baker, Commissioner Douglas. Yes, Commissioner

02:20:56.847 --> 02:21:01.028
John Reynolds. Commissioner President Alice Reynolds

02:21:01.538 --> 02:21:08.077
Yes, the vote is 50. The item passes. Um, and with

02:21:08.087 --> 02:21:10.317
that, we now will turn to the rest of the commissioner

02:21:10.327 --> 02:21:13.687
reports and I'll ask for a volunteer to go first for

02:21:13.696 --> 02:21:15.246
their report. All right, we have Commissioner, uh,

02:21:15.258 --> 02:21:18.167
Reynolds. Thank you, President Reynolds. I have, uh

02:21:18.177 --> 02:21:20.937
one brief report today. I'd like to share a staffing

02:21:20.946 --> 02:21:24.558
update. Amin Nunez recently joined my office as a new

02:21:24.567 --> 02:21:28.117
advisor. Amin joined the CPU CS Public Advocates Office

02:21:28.128 --> 02:21:31.278
in 2021 as utilities engineer where he worked primarily

02:21:31.288 --> 02:21:34.258
on distribution planning and forecasting transportation

02:21:34.268 --> 02:21:37.417
electrification, interconnection of distributed distributed

02:21:37.427 --> 02:21:40.347
generation resources and several general rate cases

02:21:41.077 --> 02:21:43.696
Before joining the Public Advocate's Office, I mean

02:21:43.706 --> 02:21:47.067
was a graduate student, graduate research assistant

02:21:47.378 --> 02:21:50.847
at the Schatz Energy Center at Humboldt State University

02:21:50.857 --> 02:21:54.058
Now CAL Poly Humboldt, where he quantified Humboldt

02:21:54.067 --> 02:21:57.407
County's offshore wind resource assessed effects of

02:21:57.417 --> 02:22:00.746
state and federal transportation decarbonisation policies

02:22:01.117 --> 02:22:03.456
and investigated the potential to generate renewable

02:22:03.466 --> 02:22:06.788
resources locally in Humboldt County, I mean, holds

02:22:06.798 --> 02:22:09.226
a master's in environmental systems from Humboldt State

02:22:09.236 --> 02:22:11.587
University and a Bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering

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from Cornell University. Welcome. I mean, that's it

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for me. All right, Mr How? Thank you, President Reynolds

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Um So I just wanted uh to, I had the opportunity to

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meet with um say a and um sand a um for their

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socal tran um transformations meeting to discuss broadband

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updates. And um they are very excited about the progress

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that we're making with our grant programs and it was

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um a great opportunity to just um hear some of their

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questions, refer them to staff. Um I also um since

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our last meeting had an opportunity to participate

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in a consultation with the um Calusa um uh Indian tribe

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with uh Commissioner Baker. And um we've passed on

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some questions to staff to follow up on and looking

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forward to, to seeing the um the follow up results

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there and I had an opportunity to meet with chair Simon

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of Middletown Rancheria. Uh Middletown is the first

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tribe to receive an E A grant from the Energy Commission

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Um after they changed the statute to allow um tribes

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to be eligible. So that was um a great event and um

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to meet with the tribe when they were in Sacramento

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last week. Um And then just um we are gonna have our

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shots fellow start and I think I was in remiss in not

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reading her bio at the last meeting. So just wanted

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to note that um we will be having a first year MS

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student um from Stanford. Um she's in the Atmosphere

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Energy Program under the civil and environmental engineering

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department. Um Before she got her bachelor's degree

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in physics from Hamilton College. She studied nuclear

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physics um at Hamilton. She was exposed to topics of

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climate change, environmental justice and became very

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passionate about mitigating the adverse effects of

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climate change through energy generation decarbonization

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And at Stanford, she's currently studying power grid

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modeling, spatial planning for renewables, climate

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law and policy. And she's looking forward to working

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in our office and will hopefully be doing some work

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on our high G er proceeding and our tribal oir very

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much looking forward to having her come and with that

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I will end my report. Great. Thank you. Any other reports

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Mr Baker. Um I just wanna echo Commissioner ha I very

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much enjoyed the tribal consultation with the Kusa

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tribe. And at the next meeting, I look forward to announcing

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that we have filled out our advisory office role. So

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thank you. Great Commissioner Douglas.

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Thank you. Um a couple brief items. Um I was uh I

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had the opportunity to be a Panelist for the um CPU

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CS Asian American native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander

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Heritage Month, uh lifetime event, uh lifetime lunchtime

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event regarding Asian American leadership. Um And uh

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also uh I also participated in the General Order 131

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D proceeding workshop on the staff proposal um in that

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proceeding. Um I was, I had the opportunity as well

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to be a Panelist for the California Community Economic

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Development Association or CTA um policy conference

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focused on aqui access and equity for a new California

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empowering low income communities of color. And um

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participated in a couple peer to peer commissioners

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meetings uh involving um gas transition issues, uh

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gas utility planning and so on um from different uh

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areas in the country. Um in terms of announcements

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I'm very pleased to share that. Starting next week

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My office will also welcome a Stanford University Schultz

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fellow. Um And her name is Sham um Sham Ror. She'll

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be working with us for two months over the summer focusing

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on gas transition issues and actually focusing on um

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uh different policy and planning and analytical approaches

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being taken across uh various states um across the

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country. Right now. She's a first year master of science

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student um pursuing a degree in environmental engineering

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at Stanford University and she obtained a bachelor's

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degree in environmental engineering from Delhi Technological

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University in India. Her background includes several

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life cycle assessment projects um from lithium ion

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batteries and automobiles to uh cosmetic packaging

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based on its structural designs. Um She's very passionate

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about advancing environmental justice and inspires

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to leverage her very strong technical skills towards

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creating equitable and sustainable solutions. So I'm

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very excited to have Shamba bring her experience and

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passion to the CPUC and uh to the projects that we

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will be assigning her um this summer. Thank you very

02:27:27.446 --> 02:27:33.226
much. Thank you. Um And I just have a brief report

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I wanted to share um some details about an interesting

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event that I attended last week. Um I participated

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in the International Regulatory Futures Forum in New

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York City. Uh This is an annual convening of regulatory

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agencies who are working on in, in the energy sector

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both domestically and globally who get together to

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share best practices and really wrestle with complex

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policy issues with the course of focus on transitioning

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to a clean energy future to combat climate change.

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Um I was joined by a really fantastic group including

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representatives from the Australian Energy Regulator

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the German Regulatory Authority, the New York State

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Department of Public Service and the Federal Energy

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Regulatory Commission. Um I'm always struck by the

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commonalities that we share in terms of the types of

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challenges we face as we decarbonize our global economy

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as well as the creative solutions that we're all contemplating

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together. So a little a few examples, all of the jurisdictions

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um that were present at the meeting are thinking through

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resource adequacy. So reliability, the role of distributed

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energy resources, the gas transition and affordability

02:28:45.437 --> 02:28:50.628
of course, um This is all during a very important time

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in our state where we're all together aiming to reduce

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our greenhouse gas emissions as quickly and as responsibly

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as we can. Um that is in my report and uh with

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that, uh that concludes the commissioner report section

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of the agenda. That is the last item on our agenda

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So I am now going to adjourn this meeting of the Public

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Utilities Commission. Thank you all very much.