WEBVTT 00:00:07.740 --> 00:00:09.790 Right members, if we can come together. 00:00:17.580 --> 00:00:19.080 All right, I wanna welcome everyone 00:00:19.080 --> 00:00:22.400 to the November 19th, 2021 meeting 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:24.543 of the Texas State Board of Education. 00:00:24.543 --> 00:00:26.010 We have a beautiful day here. 00:00:26.010 --> 00:00:28.820 We actually have a lot of old friends in the room 00:00:28.820 --> 00:00:31.390 for a future item that we have coming up on the agenda 00:00:31.390 --> 00:00:32.300 that we will get to. 00:00:32.300 --> 00:00:34.880 So it's great to see everybody here 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:36.960 and I wanna thank everyone for their presence 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.960 and all the work that has gotten us to this point this week. 00:00:42.210 --> 00:00:43.330 First of all, what I'm gonna do 00:00:43.330 --> 00:00:46.630 is I'm gonna thank Ms. Hardy 00:00:46.630 --> 00:00:48.530 for bringing the student performance to us. 00:00:48.530 --> 00:00:50.213 So at this point in time, 00:00:50.213 --> 00:00:52.420 I'm gonna call on this Hardy to introduce 00:00:52.420 --> 00:00:53.733 our student performance. 00:01:04.882 --> 00:01:08.549 (man speaking indistinctly) 00:01:10.710 --> 00:01:11.720 Good morning. 00:01:11.720 --> 00:01:16.720 It is my honor, and truly an honor to be able to invite 00:01:17.210 --> 00:01:19.160 two high schools from my district. 00:01:19.160 --> 00:01:21.280 And they are in the same district. 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.330 This is Grapevine-Colleyville 00:01:24.310 --> 00:01:25.810 and then, right behind high school, 00:01:25.810 --> 00:01:27.830 then Colleyville Heritage High School. 00:01:27.830 --> 00:01:31.287 And I think it is wonderful that two schools work together 00:01:31.287 --> 00:01:32.850 and their directors work together 00:01:32.850 --> 00:01:35.540 and that they each will be performing 00:01:35.540 --> 00:01:38.630 and then they will do a joint performance. 00:01:38.630 --> 00:01:41.580 But one of the things that's real important about this 00:01:41.580 --> 00:01:46.580 is that we've got a lot of district and parental support. 00:01:46.940 --> 00:01:50.080 This is one of the first times in two years 00:01:50.080 --> 00:01:52.600 that we've had a live performance. 00:01:52.600 --> 00:01:56.370 And nothing beats hearing them in person. 00:01:56.370 --> 00:01:57.950 But I think nothing for this group, 00:01:57.950 --> 00:02:00.910 beats seeing them in person 00:02:00.910 --> 00:02:04.690 'cause they all look so sharp in their black outfits. 00:02:04.690 --> 00:02:06.873 It's good to see everyone dressed up. 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.080 I want to introduce to you under leadership 00:02:13.161 --> 00:02:16.220 of Dr. Paul Sykes, is the director of fine arts 00:02:16.220 --> 00:02:18.510 at Grapevine-Colleyville ISD. 00:02:18.510 --> 00:02:19.653 Dr. Sykes. 00:02:20.530 --> 00:02:21.363 Where is he? 00:02:21.363 --> 00:02:22.850 Okay, Dr. Sykes, we're glad 00:02:22.850 --> 00:02:25.690 you were able to organize this whole thing. 00:02:25.690 --> 00:02:27.890 And the director, Pauline Sexton, 00:02:27.890 --> 00:02:31.130 who is the director of choirs for Grapevine High School 00:02:31.130 --> 00:02:33.690 and Kimberly McConnell, director of choirs 00:02:33.690 --> 00:02:35.570 for Colleyville Heritage High School. 00:02:35.570 --> 00:02:39.010 So, it's yours. 00:02:39.010 --> 00:02:39.843 Thank you. 00:02:41.105 --> 00:02:42.723 We're going to sing the national anthem, 00:02:42.723 --> 00:02:44.390 if you want to rise. 00:02:49.548 --> 00:02:54.548 ♪ Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ 00:02:59.150 --> 00:03:03.983 ♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪ 00:03:03.983 --> 00:03:08.983 ♪ At the twilight's last gleaming ♪ 00:03:09.506 --> 00:03:14.225 ♪ Whose broad stripes and bright stars ♪ 00:03:14.225 --> 00:03:19.225 ♪ Thru the perilous fight ♪ 00:03:19.586 --> 00:03:24.586 ♪ O'er the ramparts we watched ♪ 00:03:24.669 --> 00:03:29.669 ♪ Were so gallantly streaming ♪ 00:03:30.864 --> 00:03:35.864 ♪ And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air ♪ 00:03:39.965 --> 00:03:44.625 ♪ Gave proof through the night ♪ 00:03:44.625 --> 00:03:49.625 ♪ That our flag was still there ♪ 00:03:50.489 --> 00:03:55.489 ♪ Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ 00:04:02.029 --> 00:04:07.029 ♪ O'er the land of the free ♪ 00:04:10.529 --> 00:04:14.196 ♪ And the home of the brave ♪ 00:04:20.277 --> 00:04:22.610 (applause) 00:04:31.260 --> 00:04:32.093 Good morning. 00:04:32.093 --> 00:04:34.440 Thank you so much for letting us be here today to perform 00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:37.360 just some other amazing songs we've been preparing 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.670 in the GCISD choir programs. 00:04:39.670 --> 00:04:41.630 We really hope that these songs encourage you 00:04:41.630 --> 00:04:43.860 as these are about your important work. 00:04:43.860 --> 00:04:45.900 My name is Kate McDonald and I am president 00:04:45.900 --> 00:04:47.810 of the Grapevine High School Choir. 00:04:47.810 --> 00:04:49.500 Our first song that we will sing today 00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.120 is Ad Astra by Jacob Narverud. 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:53.730 This song is in a Latin text 00:04:53.730 --> 00:04:56.220 and translated means to the stars. 00:04:56.220 --> 00:04:59.547 Look forward, look upward, leave all cares behind. 00:05:05.005 --> 00:05:07.422 ("Ad Astra") 00:08:07.111 --> 00:08:09.361 (applause) 00:08:15.380 --> 00:08:16.213 Hello. 00:08:16.213 --> 00:08:18.480 My name is Cole Bailey and I'm a senior choir student 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:19.810 at Grapevine High School. 00:08:19.810 --> 00:08:20.980 Over the past year and a half, 00:08:20.980 --> 00:08:24.280 the GCIC choir programs have persevered in making music. 00:08:24.280 --> 00:08:26.730 Finally, having in-person concerts face-to-face 00:08:26.730 --> 00:08:29.610 and not over a screen feels like the dawning of a new age 00:08:29.610 --> 00:08:30.990 with the clearest of skies. 00:08:30.990 --> 00:08:33.540 And now, the song that signifies those skies, 00:08:33.540 --> 00:08:37.730 those clear skies and shows brighter days ahead. 00:08:37.730 --> 00:08:42.730 Here is The Storm Is Passing Over by Charles Tindley 00:08:42.730 --> 00:08:44.030 arranged by Barbara Baker. 00:08:48.114 --> 00:08:51.947 ("The Storm Is Passing Over") 00:08:55.609 --> 00:09:00.609 ♪ O courage, my soul, and let us journey on ♪ 00:09:04.493 --> 00:09:09.493 ♪ For tho' the night is dark, it won't be very long ♪ 00:09:13.834 --> 00:09:18.834 ♪ O thanks be to God, the morning light appears ♪ 00:09:23.945 --> 00:09:28.544 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:28.544 --> 00:09:33.086 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:33.086 --> 00:09:36.517 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:36.517 --> 00:09:41.517 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:09:42.145 --> 00:09:46.675 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:46.675 --> 00:09:50.986 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:50.986 --> 00:09:54.374 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:09:54.374 --> 00:09:59.194 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:09:59.194 --> 00:10:04.194 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:10:09.048 --> 00:10:13.236 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:13.236 --> 00:10:17.611 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:17.611 --> 00:10:21.272 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:21.272 --> 00:10:25.943 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:10:25.943 --> 00:10:30.943 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:10:35.640 --> 00:10:40.020 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:40.020 --> 00:10:44.266 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:44.266 --> 00:10:47.822 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:10:47.822 --> 00:10:52.232 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:10:52.232 --> 00:10:57.232 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 00:11:02.191 --> 00:11:06.574 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:06.574 --> 00:11:10.892 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:10.892 --> 00:11:14.476 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:14.476 --> 00:11:19.199 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:11:19.199 --> 00:11:24.199 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 00:11:28.499 --> 00:11:32.818 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:32.818 --> 00:11:37.189 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:37.189 --> 00:11:40.533 ♪ The storm is passing over ♪ 00:11:40.533 --> 00:11:42.783 ♪ Hallelu ♪ 00:11:49.266 --> 00:11:51.516 (applause) 00:11:56.660 --> 00:11:57.493 Well, good morning. 00:11:57.493 --> 00:11:59.000 My name is Ryan Barilla and I'm the president 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.100 of the Colleyville Heritage Panther Choirs. 00:12:01.100 --> 00:12:03.370 What a joy and a privilege it is to share our performance 00:12:03.370 --> 00:12:04.790 with you this morning. 00:12:04.790 --> 00:12:07.240 Now, although our two schools are Crosstown football rivals, 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:08.890 I love the fact that we're able to join together 00:12:08.890 --> 00:12:10.440 on the stage as one. 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:11.675 The next part you'll see 00:12:11.675 --> 00:12:13.370 is the Colleyville Heritage chamber choir, 00:12:13.370 --> 00:12:14.480 who will be performing Cantate Domino, 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.782 which is a joyful celebration of unity. 00:12:16.782 --> 00:12:17.615 Enjoy. 00:12:28.630 --> 00:12:31.547 ("Cantate Domino") 00:12:36.111 --> 00:12:39.528 (choir singing in Latin) 00:15:15.690 --> 00:15:17.940 (applause) 00:15:30.450 --> 00:15:33.400 Hello, my name is Lauren Abel and I'm vice president 00:15:33.400 --> 00:15:35.750 of the Colleyville heritage Panther Choirs. 00:15:35.750 --> 00:15:38.210 This next song will be performed by the Panther Corral 00:15:38.210 --> 00:15:39.720 from Colleyville Heritage. 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:41.320 We will be singing (indistinct). 00:15:42.178 --> 00:15:45.410 (indistinct) is a song that represents the advent of hope. 00:15:45.410 --> 00:15:49.410 It involves that dormant of peace coming to life 00:15:49.410 --> 00:15:50.813 and returning to peace. 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:15.252 (choir singing in foreign language) 00:21:23.620 --> 00:21:25.520 Hello, my name is Alex Homer. 00:21:26.794 --> 00:21:28.610 And I am Autumn Hordy. 00:21:28.610 --> 00:21:29.980 We're the senior representatives 00:21:29.980 --> 00:21:32.810 of the Colleyville Heritage Panther Choirs. 00:21:32.810 --> 00:21:34.950 The opportunity to come down and sing for y'all 00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:36.870 here in Austin is truly an honor. 00:21:36.870 --> 00:21:38.790 And will definitely be a highlight of our school year 00:21:38.790 --> 00:21:40.063 for both of our programs. 00:21:41.570 --> 00:21:44.420 It's such a great opportunity to be able to come here 00:21:44.420 --> 00:21:47.210 and perform for y'all so we thank you very much for that. 00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:50.060 After our limited time of performance and travel, 00:21:50.060 --> 00:21:52.630 even just a charter bus ride like we had yesterday 00:21:52.630 --> 00:21:55.463 can create some of the best memories and moments. 00:21:56.860 --> 00:21:58.680 Our closing song is Sisi ni moja 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:01.080 which is translated as We Are One. 00:22:01.080 --> 00:22:02.920 Together, the Grapevine High School 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.480 and CHHS choirs will sing in unison. 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:08.573 Here we stand. 00:22:12.510 --> 00:22:15.010 Now we stand here together and let their hearts and song 00:22:15.010 --> 00:22:17.630 to the rhythm of this moment in our lives. 00:22:17.630 --> 00:22:19.170 And moments do have rhythm. 00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:22.210 While we all breathe the same and walk along 00:22:22.210 --> 00:22:23.773 the same path to our life. 00:22:24.890 --> 00:22:26.103 We are together. 00:22:35.910 --> 00:22:38.660 ("Sisi Ni Moja") 00:22:48.362 --> 00:22:53.362 ♪ We all laugh, we all cry ♪ 00:22:54.485 --> 00:22:59.485 ♪ We all feel hunger, we all feel pain ♪ 00:23:00.725 --> 00:23:03.901 ♪ We all love ♪ 00:23:03.901 --> 00:23:06.861 ♪ We all hate ♪ 00:23:06.861 --> 00:23:10.083 ♪ We all hope ♪ 00:23:10.083 --> 00:23:13.301 ♪ And we all dream ♪ 00:23:13.301 --> 00:23:18.301 ♪ We are one world, one people ♪ 00:23:19.561 --> 00:23:24.561 ♪ And we all breathe the same ♪ 00:23:26.360 --> 00:23:29.604 ♪ A tribe of many languages ♪ 00:23:29.604 --> 00:23:32.582 ♪ A group of many heartaches ♪ 00:23:32.582 --> 00:23:37.582 ♪ Fighting for peace among the land ♪ 00:23:38.801 --> 00:23:43.801 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:23:44.923 --> 00:23:49.923 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:23:51.065 --> 00:23:56.065 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:23:57.207 --> 00:24:01.348 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:24:01.348 --> 00:24:06.348 ♪ We are one ♪ 00:24:09.423 --> 00:24:14.423 ♪ We all want, we all need ♪ 00:24:14.668 --> 00:24:19.668 ♪ We all seek passion, we all seek joy ♪ 00:24:21.047 --> 00:24:24.224 ♪ We all bruise ♪ 00:24:24.224 --> 00:24:27.230 ♪ We all scar ♪ 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:30.003 ♪ We all fail ♪ 00:24:30.003 --> 00:24:33.348 ♪ But learn to thrive ♪ 00:24:33.348 --> 00:24:38.348 ♪ We are one world, one people ♪ 00:24:39.625 --> 00:24:44.625 ♪ And we all breathe the same ♪ 00:24:46.616 --> 00:24:48.920 ♪ In the darkness of the night ♪ 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:53.010 ♪ And in the glory of the morning ♪ 00:24:53.010 --> 00:24:58.010 ♪ We walk along the path and find our way ♪ 00:24:58.850 --> 00:25:03.850 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:25:05.427 --> 00:25:10.427 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:25:11.731 --> 00:25:16.731 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni mojah ♪ 00:25:17.913 --> 00:25:22.209 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:25:22.209 --> 00:25:25.651 ♪ Now we stand here together ♪ 00:25:25.651 --> 00:25:28.868 ♪ And lift our hearts in song ♪ 00:25:28.868 --> 00:25:33.868 ♪ To the rhythm of this moment in our lives ♪ 00:25:35.303 --> 00:25:40.303 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:25:41.679 --> 00:25:46.679 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:25:48.162 --> 00:25:53.162 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:25:54.561 --> 00:25:59.336 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:25:59.336 --> 00:26:04.336 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:26:06.148 --> 00:26:11.148 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:26:11.981 --> 00:26:16.981 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah sisi ni moja ♪ 00:26:18.540 --> 00:26:21.599 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.834 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:26:24.834 --> 00:26:28.762 ♪ HEY-ah, HEY-ah ♪ 00:26:28.762 --> 00:26:31.179 ♪ We are one ♪ 00:26:37.005 --> 00:26:39.255 (applause) 00:26:56.980 --> 00:26:59.340 This was definitely worth the two-year wait 00:26:59.340 --> 00:27:00.580 to hear someone in person. 00:27:00.580 --> 00:27:01.980 You were fantastic. 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:03.440 Thank you very much. 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:04.630 We so appreciate that. 00:27:04.630 --> 00:27:08.220 I did not recognize the people who are here 00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:09.750 from Grapevine Colleyville. 00:27:09.750 --> 00:27:12.560 We have Mr. Alex Fingers, the principal 00:27:12.560 --> 00:27:14.360 at Grapevine High School. 00:27:14.360 --> 00:27:16.397 Would you please stand wherever you are? 00:27:16.397 --> 00:27:17.980 I mentioned he's in Colleyville (indistinct). 00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:18.813 Okay. 00:27:18.813 --> 00:27:20.863 What about Dave Denning? 00:27:23.290 --> 00:27:24.790 They're busy people. 00:27:24.790 --> 00:27:26.680 And we have Dr. Schnautz 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:28.710 who is the deputy superintendent. 00:27:28.710 --> 00:27:31.370 And Robin Ryan, who is the superintendent. 00:27:31.370 --> 00:27:34.080 And those guys really need to be recognized 00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:37.760 for this job because they got all these kids down here. 00:27:37.760 --> 00:27:40.210 They're spent the night in a hotel. 00:27:40.210 --> 00:27:44.700 And today, after this performance, which was fantastic, 00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:47.880 they are going to go over to the Capitol rotunda 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:49.360 and sing in the rotunda. 00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:51.920 If we can get off, we might go over there and listen to you 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.310 'cause can you imagine in the rotunda? 00:27:54.310 --> 00:27:57.870 But also for the fact that they're gonna get to tour 00:27:57.870 --> 00:27:59.710 as a social studies teacher, 00:27:59.710 --> 00:28:01.540 they're getting to tour the Capitol. 00:28:01.540 --> 00:28:02.420 And raise your hand 00:28:02.420 --> 00:28:04.420 if you've never seen the Capitol before. 00:28:05.660 --> 00:28:06.580 Isn't this great? 00:28:06.580 --> 00:28:08.170 And it wouldn't have happened 00:28:08.170 --> 00:28:11.020 were it not for the superintendent, Robin Ryan. 00:28:11.020 --> 00:28:13.440 So Dr. Ryan, we really do appreciate you 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.470 doing that and thinking of the kids 00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:17.110 as an overall experience. 00:28:17.110 --> 00:28:19.850 Because we know that music brings them together 00:28:19.850 --> 00:28:21.760 and they've had a wonderful time, 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:23.450 even though they haven't been able to perform, 00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:25.360 but it's certainly nicer to be able to perform 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:26.890 and work together for a performance. 00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:29.286 So again, thank you. 00:28:29.286 --> 00:28:31.536 (applause) 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.020 I just thank you all so much for the beautiful performance 00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:42.290 and the last song really spoke to my heart 00:28:42.290 --> 00:28:44.210 and I appreciate the message 00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:47.560 that that last song brought to this body. 00:28:47.560 --> 00:28:49.590 And I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge 00:28:49.590 --> 00:28:52.290 your former principal, Dr. James Whitfield. 00:28:52.290 --> 00:28:55.300 Because he embodies what that last message meant. 00:28:55.300 --> 00:28:56.133 Thank you. 00:28:57.732 --> 00:28:59.982 (applause) 00:29:07.050 --> 00:29:10.280 And we thank y'all very, very much for everything. 00:29:11.743 --> 00:29:13.993 (applause) 00:29:42.329 --> 00:29:44.579 (chatter) 00:32:03.530 --> 00:32:04.640 Members, we'll come back together. 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.600 I wanna say what an incredible performance that was 00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:08.760 by the Grapevine-Colleyville, 00:32:08.760 --> 00:32:12.320 combined high school choir from Grapevine Colleyville ISD. 00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:15.080 As was mentioned earlier about some of the other presenters, 00:32:15.080 --> 00:32:18.890 it's been a long time since we've had students in the room 00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:19.910 presenting to us. 00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:22.920 It's always, I think everyone, I'll speak for everyone. 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.160 It's probably the highlight of everyone's week 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.660 that we're able to have such inspirational performances. 00:32:28.660 --> 00:32:31.470 And it truly reminds us of why we're here. 00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:34.090 All the work we've done all week is for those individuals 00:32:34.090 --> 00:32:35.770 that were just here with us today. 00:32:35.770 --> 00:32:37.070 So I know they've left the room already, 00:32:37.070 --> 00:32:40.690 but one more shout out to the great that they did. 00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:46.480 At this point in time, I believe it's Dr. Johnson. 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.330 And we were gonna have Dr. Johnson bring the invocation 00:32:49.330 --> 00:32:50.863 and lead us in the pledges. 00:32:53.730 --> 00:32:54.563 Let us pray. 00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:57.607 Heavenly father, thank you for today 00:32:57.607 --> 00:33:00.373 and the many blessings you give us every day. 00:33:01.360 --> 00:33:05.140 Thank you for the opportunity to serve you in our state 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:06.513 as members of this board. 00:33:07.470 --> 00:33:09.650 Give us wisdom and discernment 00:33:09.650 --> 00:33:13.160 as we discuss and make decisions affecting the students 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.183 and educators of Texas. 00:33:16.210 --> 00:33:17.410 As you tell us in Luke, 00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:19.810 it would be better for us to have a millstone 00:33:19.810 --> 00:33:23.340 hung around our neck and be cast into the sea 00:33:23.340 --> 00:33:26.170 than to cause one of these children to stumble. 00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:29.135 I pray that we make no decisions that could cause 00:33:29.135 --> 00:33:30.260 any of these young lives 00:33:30.260 --> 00:33:33.463 you have entrusted us with to stumble. 00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:36.600 Thank you for the chance to serve 00:33:36.600 --> 00:33:38.333 and bless everything we do today. 00:33:39.610 --> 00:33:41.680 In Jesus Christ name, I pray. 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:42.513 Amen. 00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:49.620 I pledge allegiance to the flag 00:33:49.620 --> 00:33:52.020 of the United States of America, 00:33:52.020 --> 00:33:54.910 and to the republic for which it stands, 00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:58.310 one nation under God, indivisible, 00:33:58.310 --> 00:34:00.563 with liberty and justice for all. 00:34:02.510 --> 00:34:04.740 Honor of the Texas flag. 00:34:04.740 --> 00:34:07.650 I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, 00:34:07.650 --> 00:34:11.403 one state under God, one and indivisible. 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.203 Thank you, Dr. Johnson. 00:34:17.100 --> 00:34:18.170 All right, at this point in time, 00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:19.770 I'll ask Steph to call the roll. 00:34:29.210 --> 00:34:30.260 Dr. Ellis. Here. 00:34:31.140 --> 00:34:32.953 Ms. Perez. Present. 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:36.550 Mr. Hickman. Here. 00:34:38.420 --> 00:34:40.163 Dr. Robinson. Here. 00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:43.343 Dr. Young. Here. 00:34:44.220 --> 00:34:46.170 Mr. Maynard. Here. 00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:47.533 Ms. Hardy. Here. 00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:50.653 Ms. Davis. Here. 00:34:52.650 --> 00:34:55.230 Mrs. Melton-Malone. Here. 00:34:55.230 --> 00:34:57.693 Dr. Johnson. Here. 00:34:58.750 --> 00:35:00.393 Mr. Cortez. Here. 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:02.683 Mrs. Perez-Diaz. 00:35:07.318 --> 00:35:08.157 (man speaking indistinctly) 00:35:08.157 --> 00:35:10.350 Okay, she's here. 00:35:10.350 --> 00:35:12.073 Mr. Allen. Present. 00:35:13.900 --> 00:35:15.300 Dr. Bell-Metereau. 00:35:17.759 --> 00:35:18.592 I think she's (indistinct). 00:35:19.990 --> 00:35:21.783 Mrs. Little. Here. 00:35:25.680 --> 00:35:27.930 Thank you and Yolanda, a quorum is present. 00:35:28.802 --> 00:35:29.890 The first business to be considered 00:35:29.890 --> 00:35:31.090 is the approval of the minutes 00:35:31.090 --> 00:35:32.410 of the State Board of Education meeting 00:35:32.410 --> 00:35:34.860 from September 3rd, 2021. 00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:37.460 Members, are there any corrections to these minutes? 00:35:39.240 --> 00:35:40.680 Hearing none, there are no corrections 00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:42.130 and the minutes are approved. 00:35:43.060 --> 00:35:46.690 I need to make a special announcement, members. 00:35:46.690 --> 00:35:49.440 Steph inadvertently left proposed New 19 TAC 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.300 Chapter 112 Subchapter A, elementary 00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:54.625 and Subchapter B, middle school 00:35:54.625 --> 00:35:56.850 off the State Board of Education agenda in the open meeting. 00:35:56.850 --> 00:35:57.920 Notice, consequently, 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.697 we're not posted to take action on that item today. 00:36:00.697 --> 00:36:02.690 and we will need to post for a special meeting 00:36:02.690 --> 00:36:05.060 to take final action on this item. 00:36:05.060 --> 00:36:06.330 Since the Committee of the Full Board 00:36:06.330 --> 00:36:07.780 did not complete consideration 00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:11.160 of all proposed amendments to this item on Wednesday, 00:36:11.160 --> 00:36:12.410 I propose that we adjourn 00:36:12.410 --> 00:36:13.900 the State Board of Education meeting, 00:36:13.900 --> 00:36:16.400 following resolutions in presentations, 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.530 to convene as a committee to the full board and dispose 00:36:18.530 --> 00:36:20.260 of any outstanding amendments. 00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:22.520 This would include all proposed amendment staff received 00:36:22.520 --> 00:36:23.793 by noon yesterday. 00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:27.110 Is there any questions on that? 00:36:28.780 --> 00:36:29.613 Mr. Hickman? 00:36:30.450 --> 00:36:32.963 We will proceed with CTE 00:36:32.963 --> 00:36:34.530 and all the other items? 00:36:34.530 --> 00:36:35.583 This is only science? 00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:39.110 Correct. Okay, thank you. 00:36:42.169 --> 00:36:43.413 Any other questions, members? 00:36:46.220 --> 00:36:47.370 The next business in order 00:36:47.370 --> 00:36:48.810 is a presentation of the resolutions. 00:36:48.810 --> 00:36:51.900 Ms. Perez, please present the resolution. 00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:53.320 Good morning. 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:54.700 Today, we have one resolution. 00:36:54.700 --> 00:36:57.480 We'll be recognizing the Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.780 in Mathematics and Science teachers. 00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:03.290 Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:37:03.290 --> 00:37:05.170 in Mathematics and Science Teaching Program 00:37:05.170 --> 00:37:08.460 identifies outstanding mathematics and science teachers 00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:11.320 in each state and the four US jurisdictions. 00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.170 And whereas the state selection committees 00:37:14.170 --> 00:37:16.830 three mathematic finalists and three science finalists 00:37:16.830 --> 00:37:20.120 were selected as Texas finalists. 00:37:20.120 --> 00:37:22.280 Whereas these teachers have become candidates 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.870 for the Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:37:23.870 --> 00:37:25.660 in Mathematics and Science teaching. 00:37:25.660 --> 00:37:27.800 Now, therefore it be resolved 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:28.990 that the State Board of Education 00:37:28.990 --> 00:37:31.360 does hereby extend its congratulations 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.660 to Amber Bialorucki of Tomball Memorial High School, 00:37:34.660 --> 00:37:38.020 Tomball Independent School District, Tomball, Texas. 00:37:38.020 --> 00:37:39.700 Sara DiMaria, Cedards 00:37:39.700 --> 00:37:41.620 International Next Generation High School, 00:37:41.620 --> 00:37:44.890 Cedars International Academy, Austin, Texas. 00:37:44.890 --> 00:37:47.280 Tim McMahon, Kaufman High School. 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.810 Kaufman Independent School District, 00:37:48.810 --> 00:37:51.400 Kaufman, Texas for being named state finalists 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.620 in their secondary mathematics category 00:37:53.620 --> 00:37:56.750 for the 2021 presidential award. 00:37:56.750 --> 00:37:59.570 And be it further resolved that the State Board of Education 00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:03.340 does hereby extend its congratulations to Fatima Aboueisha. 00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:06.510 Brandeis High School, Northside Independent High School, 00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:08.920 Northside Independent School District. 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:10.410 San Antonio, Texas. 00:38:10.410 --> 00:38:12.830 William Crump, Colleyville Heritage High School, 00:38:12.830 --> 00:38:16.250 Grapevine-Colleyville Independent School District, 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:17.510 Colleyville, Texas. 00:38:17.510 --> 00:38:19.050 Michelle Jedlicka. 00:38:19.050 --> 00:38:20.470 A&M Consolidated High School 00:38:20.470 --> 00:38:22.760 College Station Independent School District 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.340 College Station Texas 00:38:25.281 --> 00:38:28.400 for being named finalists in the secondary science category 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.130 for the 2021 presidential award. 00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:35.210 And be it further resolved that this resolution be presented 00:38:35.210 --> 00:38:38.380 to the aforementioned teachers for being identified 00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:40.780 as state finalists for the 2021 00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:42.800 Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.090 in Mathematics and Science Teaching Program. 00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:49.150 And that a copy of this be included in the permanent records 00:38:49.150 --> 00:38:51.440 of the State Board of Education. 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:56.020 Witness our signatures, this 19th day of November, 2021. 00:38:56.020 --> 00:38:58.120 Dr. Keven Ellis, our chair 00:38:58.120 --> 00:39:00.640 and Georgina Perez, your secretary. 00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:01.993 Congratulations. 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.080 Next, I would like to introduce you all to Mr. Eric Hale. 00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:17.543 If you would join me please. 00:39:23.940 --> 00:39:28.940 Mr. Hale is our Elementary Teacher of the Year. 00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:32.100 Not only is he our Elementary Teacher of the Year, 00:39:32.100 --> 00:39:36.710 he is the first black man to be a finalist in Texas 00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:37.750 for teacher of the year. 00:39:37.750 --> 00:39:40.110 And that makes him the first black male 00:39:40.110 --> 00:39:42.163 Texas Teacher of the Year. 00:39:43.041 --> 00:39:45.291 (applause) 00:39:48.520 --> 00:39:53.120 Additionally, Mr. Hale was just informed 00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:57.190 as the rest of us were just informed this week, 00:39:57.190 --> 00:39:59.340 Mr. Hale has been selected as a finalist 00:39:59.340 --> 00:40:02.730 for the National University Teacher Award. 00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:03.970 (applause) 00:40:03.970 --> 00:40:08.040 There are only five teachers in the United States 00:40:08.040 --> 00:40:10.238 who have moved to the finals. 00:40:10.238 --> 00:40:11.460 He is one of five. 00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:14.638 And he's representing the Southwest region. 00:40:14.638 --> 00:40:18.890 He is awarded $10,000 for making the finalist list. 00:40:18.890 --> 00:40:20.533 He now moves on. 00:40:21.970 --> 00:40:24.930 He now moves on to the national level 00:40:24.930 --> 00:40:26.140 where if he were to win, 00:40:26.140 --> 00:40:28.720 which of course he'll win 'cause he's from Texas. 00:40:28.720 --> 00:40:33.450 And if he were to win, he will receive a $50,000 award. 00:40:33.450 --> 00:40:35.800 (applause) 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:36.633 Congratulations. 00:40:37.870 --> 00:40:39.620 Thank you so much. 00:40:42.910 --> 00:40:46.267 Mr. Hale, it is my honor to present this to you 00:40:46.267 --> 00:40:48.870 and I am so proud that you are from district 12, 00:40:48.870 --> 00:40:51.430 which is in North Texas. 00:40:51.430 --> 00:40:53.510 I also want you to know that he teaches 00:40:53.510 --> 00:40:56.110 first and second grade 00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.680 and you know how much patience it takes to do that. 00:40:58.680 --> 00:41:02.800 So we are extremely honored to have him here with us today. 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.890 And I am honored to present this to you. 00:41:05.890 --> 00:41:06.723 Thank you. 00:41:06.723 --> 00:41:07.556 (applause) 00:41:07.556 --> 00:41:08.657 And I wish we had more like you. 00:41:17.170 --> 00:41:19.500 First, I wanna say thank you for your time 00:41:19.500 --> 00:41:21.400 and to be respectful. 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.750 I am the 2021 State Teacher of the Year. 00:41:24.750 --> 00:41:29.750 We have chosen a new winner for 2022, 00:41:29.900 --> 00:41:33.430 a wonderful gentleman that you'll meet, 00:41:33.430 --> 00:41:34.800 that's out of El Paso. 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.693 So respect to him and his moment. 00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:42.497 I am here representing Dallas ISD. 00:41:43.390 --> 00:41:45.410 I'm here most importantly, 00:41:45.410 --> 00:41:47.160 representing the school that I serve 00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:48.929 and I'm proud to serve at, 00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:50.780 which is David G. Burnet Elementary School. 00:41:50.780 --> 00:41:54.950 The children I serve come from dire straits. 00:41:54.950 --> 00:41:58.510 We are in the red light district off of Harry Hines. 00:41:58.510 --> 00:42:02.630 We are 98% disadvantaged. 00:42:02.630 --> 00:42:04.730 Not only have they dealt with ice raids 00:42:04.730 --> 00:42:06.030 in the last five years, 00:42:06.030 --> 00:42:08.350 we went from ice raids to being affected 00:42:08.350 --> 00:42:11.080 by the F3 tornado that you guys remember two years ago. 00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:12.830 That also hit our school. 00:42:12.830 --> 00:42:16.293 And so then from that, we jumped right into a pandemic. 00:42:17.300 --> 00:42:22.170 And but before that, we are a school in a community 00:42:22.170 --> 00:42:25.333 that has been generationally underserved. 00:42:26.410 --> 00:42:30.720 And so I know that intimately because of my childhood. 00:42:30.720 --> 00:42:33.730 And so I represent and stand on the shoulders 00:42:33.730 --> 00:42:38.540 of great educators of all color that took the time to fight 00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:40.980 for what I call the tribe of if. 00:42:40.980 --> 00:42:44.216 These are the children that if they had more love 00:42:44.216 --> 00:42:45.049 or if they had more resources 00:42:45.049 --> 00:42:48.860 or if they came from two-parent homes, what they could be? 00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:51.320 So I stand before you in this example 00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:55.123 for you never to forget children who are not your own. 00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.140 The reason why we cannot cure society's ills 00:43:00.140 --> 00:43:03.683 is because we refuse to cultivate all the fields. 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:09.800 The children that I serve have the cure for cancer. 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.850 They have the cure for AIDS. 00:43:11.850 --> 00:43:14.534 We are just not investing in their minds 00:43:14.534 --> 00:43:16.020 and in their talents. 00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:18.480 Not that every child will be a diamond 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:19.973 or will be a negative goal, 00:43:20.970 --> 00:43:24.113 but a Sapphire shines just as bright. 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.700 And so I challenge you when you're up here 00:43:28.700 --> 00:43:32.020 making decisions that affect all the children 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.660 to think of the children in the state of Texas 00:43:35.660 --> 00:43:40.260 is all or ours. 00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:42.190 Net them, that they. 00:43:42.190 --> 00:43:47.190 If there's ever an issue that should not be politicized, 00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:49.530 it should be education. 00:43:50.950 --> 00:43:53.810 There are good people on both sides of the aisle. 00:43:53.810 --> 00:43:56.210 And we need to keep the main thing the main thing. 00:43:56.210 --> 00:43:59.290 And what your personal why is to help the children 00:43:59.290 --> 00:44:00.923 of the great state of Texas. 00:44:02.600 --> 00:44:06.250 'Cause you don't know who you are investing in. 00:44:06.250 --> 00:44:07.853 And I'm an example of that. 00:44:09.160 --> 00:44:13.323 I applaud the efforts that you do daily, 00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:19.333 but I am begging you on behalf of teachers across the state. 00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:22.560 Continue to let us teach in truth. 00:44:26.090 --> 00:44:29.850 Now more than ever, a good educator 00:44:30.730 --> 00:44:32.543 needs to be fluid like water. 00:44:33.820 --> 00:44:36.617 Water can be soft as a feather when it needs to be. 00:44:36.617 --> 00:44:39.940 And it could be as rigid in his heart is a brick wall 00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:41.290 when it needs to be. 00:44:41.290 --> 00:44:45.440 And we need that flexibility to reach and engage 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.113 all the minds of all the students. 00:44:49.160 --> 00:44:52.850 So I would like you to think about these three things. 00:44:52.850 --> 00:44:55.960 One, use the power that you have to advocate 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:57.083 for all students. 00:44:58.050 --> 00:45:00.860 Secondly, hold yourself and the people around you 00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:04.910 accountable for the success of all the students. 00:45:04.910 --> 00:45:09.093 And lastly, step out in action for all the students. 00:45:11.680 --> 00:45:12.723 This is a blessing. 00:45:14.120 --> 00:45:15.720 I never thought I would be here. 00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:21.720 I'm the first of my kind to win this prestigious award, 00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:26.640 but I'm not the first child to be abused growing up. 00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:28.340 I'm not the first shout to live 00:45:28.340 --> 00:45:30.080 in battered women's shelters. 00:45:30.080 --> 00:45:31.980 I'm not the first child that was failed 00:45:31.980 --> 00:45:33.480 through an educational system. 00:45:35.470 --> 00:45:37.733 And sadly, I won't be the last. 00:45:38.570 --> 00:45:43.570 But you in this room have the power to change the world 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:46.950 by changing public school education, 00:45:46.950 --> 00:45:49.803 by changing education for the children of Texas. 00:45:52.060 --> 00:45:53.543 And I'm just frankly, 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.250 looking forward to seeing what you guys do. 00:45:58.250 --> 00:46:00.580 And thank you so much for your time. 00:46:00.580 --> 00:46:04.450 And thank you for honoring me and honoring the children 00:46:04.450 --> 00:46:07.360 that I represent and that I will continue to represent 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:09.830 until the day I die. 00:46:09.830 --> 00:46:10.820 I salute you. 00:46:10.820 --> 00:46:12.450 Thank you for your time. 00:46:12.450 --> 00:46:14.700 (applause) 00:46:28.430 --> 00:46:30.760 Mr. Hale, we thank you so much for being here today. 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.960 You're such an outstanding example of what all 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.440 of our students need in their lives, 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.320 and we appreciate you so much for your time, 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.623 effort and dedication to the students of Texas. 00:46:53.580 --> 00:46:55.940 So one more time, congratulations to all of those. 00:46:55.940 --> 00:46:57.440 And I would ask all those in favor 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.648 of adopting the resolution, say, aye. 00:47:00.648 --> 00:47:01.630 Aye. 00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:03.393 The resolution is adopted. 00:47:04.420 --> 00:47:07.210 At this point in time. I'm gonna call on Ms. Martinez 00:47:07.210 --> 00:47:08.520 for a special introduction. 00:47:08.520 --> 00:47:11.068 I think we'll have a little break here in just a minute 00:47:11.068 --> 00:47:11.901 and board members, I wanna remind you, 00:47:11.901 --> 00:47:13.802 there's some additional information 00:47:13.802 --> 00:47:14.860 in your mailboxes in the break room. 00:47:14.860 --> 00:47:18.580 When we have a time to take a break, make sure you get that. 00:47:18.580 --> 00:47:20.863 But at this point in time, Ms. Martinez. 00:47:21.850 --> 00:47:23.310 Thank you, Chairman. 00:47:23.310 --> 00:47:27.770 It is my distinct honor this morning, 00:47:27.770 --> 00:47:31.400 to be able to back into the room, 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.210 former Commissioner Michael Williams. 00:47:34.210 --> 00:47:37.380 I also just wanna take a moment to welcome 00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:39.910 all of my friends and colleagues back. 00:47:39.910 --> 00:47:42.060 I will say on their behalf, 00:47:42.060 --> 00:47:44.730 you see all the folks that are standing in that back corner, 00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:49.450 we were all very lucky to have the opportunity to serve 00:47:49.450 --> 00:47:53.933 under Commissioner Williams from 2012 to 2015, 00:47:55.490 --> 00:47:58.750 we are beyond excited that we finally 00:47:58.750 --> 00:48:01.420 get to add his portrait. 00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:04.070 It's been a long time incoming. 00:48:04.070 --> 00:48:05.760 We wanna thank Julie Kapuscinski, 00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.770 who couldn't be here today for making it happen. 00:48:09.770 --> 00:48:13.920 But we are really excited to be able to share his portrait 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.740 with you this morning. 00:48:15.740 --> 00:48:17.310 Commissioner Williams, I would invite you 00:48:17.310 --> 00:48:22.310 to step back and share your portrait with the group. 00:48:52.340 --> 00:48:53.350 And whenever you're ready, sir, 00:48:53.350 --> 00:48:55.933 if you would come in and say a few words. 00:49:08.830 --> 00:49:10.943 And my colleagues. 00:49:12.630 --> 00:49:14.563 I spent 16 years in this building. 00:49:15.450 --> 00:49:19.807 12 on the 12th floor as Statewide elected member 00:49:19.807 --> 00:49:22.713 of the Railroad Commission of Texas and four, TEA. 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:25.760 As a member Railroad Commissioner of Texas, 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.430 it was our proud moment that we realized that we serve 00:49:32.120 --> 00:49:34.140 the oldest regulatory agency in this state 00:49:34.140 --> 00:49:36.380 and perhaps one of the most powerful regulatory agencies 00:49:36.380 --> 00:49:37.720 in this country. 00:49:37.720 --> 00:49:42.480 We knew that we were in charge of the largest segment 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:43.733 of the Texas economy. 00:49:45.210 --> 00:49:46.730 When I got to the TEA, 00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:51.470 recognize that no matter how valuable that natural gas 00:49:51.470 --> 00:49:53.770 or crude oil or coal that sits 00:49:53.770 --> 00:49:56.090 beneath the ground is, Mr. Chairman, 00:49:56.090 --> 00:49:58.710 it's nowhere near as valuable as the energy that stands 00:49:58.710 --> 00:49:59.780 on top of the ground. 00:49:59.780 --> 00:50:01.970 And those those 5.3 million young people 00:50:03.165 --> 00:50:04.680 in Texas public schools. 00:50:04.680 --> 00:50:06.580 It was indeed my honor and my pleasure 00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:09.530 to serve here for four years. 00:50:09.530 --> 00:50:11.163 And to be with you. 00:50:14.015 --> 00:50:15.940 And it's a pleasure to see all of you come back. 00:50:15.940 --> 00:50:17.480 David, Mr. Chairman. 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.670 I'm gonna turn my back to y'all to be no disrespect, 00:50:19.670 --> 00:50:22.270 but I wanna talk to some friends, if you don't mind. 00:50:23.600 --> 00:50:25.360 Mr. Anderson David, thank you. 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.500 I think I've been Commissioner maybe two hours 00:50:27.500 --> 00:50:29.350 when you walked into my office and told me 00:50:29.350 --> 00:50:31.128 that I've been sued. 00:50:31.128 --> 00:50:32.810 (laughter) 00:50:32.810 --> 00:50:34.548 And that you were gonna accept service. 00:50:34.548 --> 00:50:39.548 But I appreciate the comments in which you brought 00:50:39.550 --> 00:50:43.360 that information to me and the truthfulness that you gave me 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.923 throughout my tenure at TEA. 00:50:47.642 --> 00:50:50.443 And LB, there's nobody like Lisa Banfoss. 00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:55.995 Commissioner Fisher knows more about public school finance 00:50:55.995 --> 00:50:56.970 than anybody in this country. 00:50:56.970 --> 00:50:59.920 And I thank you for teaching me about those little pennies. 00:51:01.390 --> 00:51:06.310 Sally, I wrote my first commentary in favor of school choice 00:51:06.310 --> 00:51:09.120 and charter schools in 1989. 00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:12.720 I gave my first speech on the subsequent 1990. 00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:16.240 You and I and Kevin and others have the opportunity 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:19.010 to expand the opportunities for moms and dads and grandmas 00:51:19.010 --> 00:51:23.510 and grandpas and aunties and others. 00:51:23.510 --> 00:51:27.050 So that kids could be fit into schools that met 00:51:27.050 --> 00:51:29.343 and meet their needs and I think for it. 00:51:31.410 --> 00:51:35.070 Michelle, we remember the time when folks 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.940 and teachers got their reviews at the end of the year 00:51:40.940 --> 00:51:42.880 and they got a big on number. 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.217 Nobody knew what the heck it meant. 00:51:44.217 --> 00:51:48.920 But you changed that teaching about program so that now, 00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.670 they get real actual information about how to become 00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:54.380 better educators for our youngsters. 00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:58.690 Nor, thank you for making sure that all of them dollars 00:51:58.690 --> 00:52:00.953 you would get from uncle Sam, we didn't lose them. 00:52:01.830 --> 00:52:03.580 But then we took good care of them. 00:52:05.820 --> 00:52:08.270 I probably missed somebody along the way. 00:52:08.270 --> 00:52:11.150 Commissioner, it's gonna be in your house. 00:52:11.150 --> 00:52:11.983 It's all right. 00:52:13.100 --> 00:52:15.620 But I wanna say before I go, 00:52:15.620 --> 00:52:18.260 a special thanks to a couple of folks. 00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:23.260 Will, Jean, Ryan, hurricane. 00:52:26.450 --> 00:52:29.010 That personal staff of my faith. 00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:32.570 Where we've been together for about 15 years, right? 00:52:32.570 --> 00:52:34.953 After you left that little school across the street, 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.593 I thank you for your comments. 00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:45.070 Jean was a whole lot more than the communications director. 00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:48.450 Jean, you sort of kept me from making 00:52:48.450 --> 00:52:51.270 a lot of big mistakes along the way. 00:52:51.270 --> 00:52:52.997 And I appreciate that. 00:52:54.350 --> 00:52:57.870 It's interesting, Commissioner. 00:52:57.870 --> 00:53:02.380 I will now be the second person who has his portrait hung 00:53:02.380 --> 00:53:05.803 in two different places in this building. 00:53:06.730 --> 00:53:11.730 Up on the 12th floor, my portrait hangs on the east wall, 00:53:13.310 --> 00:53:15.583 looking west and on the west wall, 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.580 there's a portrait that of a man 00:53:19.580 --> 00:53:21.293 by the name of Earl B. Mayfield. 00:53:22.330 --> 00:53:25.170 I had the great opportunity to be in the line of succession 00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:28.440 of some outstanding railroad Commissioners. 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.280 Mac Wallace from Athens, Texas, 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.250 former judge, former prosecutor 00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:36.380 went to the National War College. 00:53:37.303 --> 00:53:39.753 Mack was a heck of a mentor to me. 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:42.730 Also in my line of succession, 00:53:42.730 --> 00:53:47.730 I lay in the line of my mentor of 43 years now. 00:53:48.070 --> 00:53:52.530 Former Congressman, former state Senator, 00:53:52.530 --> 00:53:54.820 former railroad Commissioner 00:53:54.820 --> 00:53:58.940 and former chancellor of the Texas Tech System, Kent Hance. 00:53:58.940 --> 00:54:02.820 Kent, probably talked to him once about politics 00:54:02.820 --> 00:54:06.270 and life is anybody around. 00:54:06.270 --> 00:54:11.270 I'm also directly the succeeding of the incomparable, 00:54:12.292 --> 00:54:13.607 (indistinct) Carole Keeton Rylander. 00:54:16.127 --> 00:54:18.270 Carole was the railroad Commissioner 00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:19.440 immediately proceeded me. 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.630 I stand in a great line success. 00:54:21.630 --> 00:54:26.060 But also on that wall is Mr. Earle B. Mayfield. 00:54:26.060 --> 00:54:28.350 Mr. Mayfield ran for the Railroad Commission of Texas 00:54:28.350 --> 00:54:30.203 as a member of the KKK. 00:54:32.430 --> 00:54:35.960 In this day, maybe it's somewhat awkward 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.410 to talk about such things, 00:54:38.410 --> 00:54:41.631 but I'm gonna tell you where I started (indistinct). 00:54:41.631 --> 00:54:43.460 We're gonna talk about talking about some truth. 00:54:43.460 --> 00:54:46.670 You can't talk about the beauty and the wonder 00:54:46.670 --> 00:54:48.210 of the Railroad Commission of Texas 00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:52.230 where it had myself and Ambassador Garza 00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:53.920 and Charles Matthews. 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.190 If you don't talk about Earle Bradford Mayfield. 00:54:57.190 --> 00:54:59.080 You're gonna talk sometimes have to talk 00:54:59.080 --> 00:55:00.210 about the ugly truth. 00:55:00.210 --> 00:55:03.920 And so I realized Commissioner Martinez, 00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:08.530 as you guys start working on those social studies standards, 00:55:08.530 --> 00:55:10.660 there re gonna be some awkward moments. 00:55:10.660 --> 00:55:12.380 I'm staying here just like the young brother 00:55:12.380 --> 00:55:14.083 who just left, Mr. Hale. 00:55:16.700 --> 00:55:18.320 Tell the truth. 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:19.680 Just tell the truth. 00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:22.080 Just put the truth in the standards, my friends, 00:55:22.930 --> 00:55:24.750 and we'll be just fine. 00:55:24.750 --> 00:55:26.800 Kids will be able to handle the truth. 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.550 Let's not hide the truth from them. 00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:32.038 I have a theory about events like this, 00:55:32.038 --> 00:55:34.490 that at the end of the day in which they began. 00:55:34.490 --> 00:55:37.800 So I'm gonna sit down and I'm gonna leave. 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.260 But I thank you for the opportunity to serve 00:55:41.260 --> 00:55:42.640 the people of Texas. 00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:45.690 I thank you were working with me. 00:55:45.690 --> 00:55:48.473 I thank you for coming back today. 00:55:49.970 --> 00:55:52.200 May the peace of the Lord be with you. 00:55:52.200 --> 00:55:53.970 May God bless you. 00:55:53.970 --> 00:55:55.656 God bless Texas. 00:55:55.656 --> 00:55:57.906 (applause) 00:56:21.160 --> 00:56:23.140 Mr. Williams, it is our greatest honor 00:56:23.140 --> 00:56:26.320 to be able to recognize you here today 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.300 among all the great accomplishments 00:56:28.300 --> 00:56:29.720 that have happened before and after you 00:56:29.720 --> 00:56:31.840 and all that you have done for us today. 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:33.260 What I'm gonna ask is that everyone, 00:56:33.260 --> 00:56:35.710 we will all move out to the lobby for a few minutes. 00:56:35.710 --> 00:56:37.762 We have a little reception out there. 00:56:37.762 --> 00:56:39.030 So we're gonna stand at ease 00:56:39.030 --> 00:56:42.623 and we're gonna adjourn and head to the lobby. 00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:53.150 All right, members, we're going to now reconvene 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:55.970 the Committee of the Full Board. 00:56:55.970 --> 00:56:56.900 So it was announced earlier 00:56:56.900 --> 00:56:58.140 the Committee of the Full Board 00:56:58.140 --> 00:57:00.520 still has some business to consider. 00:57:00.520 --> 00:57:03.050 Therefore the State Board of Education has recessed 00:57:03.050 --> 00:57:06.313 and we were convening as a Committee of the Full Board. 00:57:09.640 --> 00:57:13.920 We will proceed to propose new 19 TAC Chapter 112. 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.380 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for science, 00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:18.700 Subchapter A, elementary, 112.1 to 112.7 00:57:18.700 --> 00:57:21.140 Subchapter B, middle school. 00:57:21.140 --> 00:57:23.630 112.25 to 112.28. 00:57:23.630 --> 00:57:26.840 This is second reading and final adoption. 00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:28.550 Because the committee has adopted 00:57:28.550 --> 00:57:29.610 a recommendation on this item, 00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:32.570 the item must be reconsidered. 00:57:32.570 --> 00:57:35.140 Parliamentarian has advised me that when the same meaning 00:57:35.140 --> 00:57:36.340 extends over several days, 00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:39.450 the motion to reconsider may be made either on the same day 00:57:39.450 --> 00:57:41.770 or the next business day of the meeting. 00:57:41.770 --> 00:57:45.440 Ms. Little, I believe you have a motion to get us on track. 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:46.850 I do Mr. Chair. 00:57:46.850 --> 00:57:49.130 I move to reconsider the recommendation 00:57:49.130 --> 00:57:50.970 to the State Board of Education 00:57:50.970 --> 00:57:55.550 related to the proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 112. 00:57:55.550 --> 00:57:58.470 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science. 00:57:58.470 --> 00:58:01.140 Subchapter A, elementary. 00:58:01.140 --> 00:58:05.990 Section 112.1 through 112.7. 00:58:05.990 --> 00:58:08.300 And Subchapter B, middle school. 00:58:08.300 --> 00:58:12.630 Section 112.25 through 112.28. 00:58:12.630 --> 00:58:14.537 I voted in favor of the motion. 00:58:16.460 --> 00:58:18.740 Do we have a second? Second. 00:58:18.740 --> 00:58:21.520 We have a motion and a second. 00:58:21.520 --> 00:58:23.180 So it has been moved to reconsider the recommendation 00:58:23.180 --> 00:58:25.170 of the State Board of Education related to proposed 00:58:25.170 --> 00:58:26.850 new 19 TAC Chapter 112. 00:58:26.850 --> 00:58:29.100 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for science 00:58:29.100 --> 00:58:32.127 Subchapter A, elementary, 112.1 to 112.7 00:58:32.127 --> 00:58:35.663 and Subchapter B, middle school, 112.25 to 112.28. 00:58:37.882 --> 00:58:39.213 Is there any debate on the motion? 00:58:41.944 --> 00:58:42.777 All right. 00:58:42.777 --> 00:58:44.760 I would ask all those in favor of the motion 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.130 'Cause this is the motion to reconsider. 00:58:47.130 --> 00:58:49.270 Just to reconsider. 00:58:49.270 --> 00:58:52.270 I would ask all those in favor to show by raising your hand. 00:58:57.151 --> 00:58:58.651 12, 13. 00:59:00.040 --> 00:59:00.873 Lower your hands, please. 00:59:00.873 --> 00:59:02.828 All those opposed by the same sign. 00:59:02.828 --> 00:59:05.803 There's 13 in favor and zero against. 00:59:06.708 --> 00:59:07.650 So there is a majority in favor 00:59:07.650 --> 00:59:11.280 and the recommendation will be reconsidered. 00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:13.020 So members, this puts us at the same place 00:59:13.020 --> 00:59:14.970 that we were immediately before the vote 00:59:14.970 --> 00:59:16.930 to finally adopt the recommendation. 00:59:16.930 --> 00:59:19.270 All prior amendments will remain in place. 00:59:19.270 --> 00:59:20.640 Ms. Kay, one question I have had, 00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:23.920 is it typically in this case on Friday that any amendments 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.610 would have to have been posted by noon on Thursday? 00:59:27.610 --> 00:59:29.550 Is that still the case? 00:59:29.550 --> 00:59:31.483 That would require 2/3 majority? 00:59:33.510 --> 00:59:34.660 Yes, sir. 00:59:34.660 --> 00:59:37.070 Thank you for asking, Mr. Chair. 00:59:37.070 --> 00:59:42.070 Your rules, rule 5.7 states that are member wishing 00:59:42.330 --> 00:59:45.550 to amended TEKS being considered by the board 00:59:45.550 --> 00:59:47.500 for second reading and final adoption 00:59:47.500 --> 00:59:49.930 shall submit the amendment in writing 00:59:49.930 --> 00:59:52.840 to the staff no later than 5 pm 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.090 or two hours following the adjournment 00:59:55.090 --> 00:59:56.490 of the Committee of the Full Board, 00:59:56.490 --> 00:59:59.800 whichever is later on the day prior to the amendment 00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.090 being considered by the board. 01:00:02.090 --> 01:00:06.720 Therefore, since the board is not gonna be considering this, 01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:10.693 5.7 does not come into play for amendments today. 01:00:11.593 --> 01:00:13.570 So for clarification, members, 01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:16.430 there would not be a requirement than an amendment 01:00:16.430 --> 01:00:18.680 that has taken up at this point in time 01:00:18.680 --> 01:00:21.950 in the meeting would have been needed to be sent in 01:00:24.246 --> 01:00:26.650 by five o'clock or noon, whatever time we had set 01:00:26.650 --> 01:00:29.480 and therefore it will be just be the normal majority 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:30.943 that it would take. 01:00:30.943 --> 01:00:32.702 It would not take 2/3 majority 01:00:32.702 --> 01:00:34.296 to suspend the operating rules. 01:00:34.296 --> 01:00:35.304 I get that correct? 01:00:35.304 --> 01:00:36.137 Okay. 01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:38.993 All right. 01:00:38.993 --> 01:00:42.950 So members, we are, at the same place 01:00:42.950 --> 01:00:44.450 being able to take amendments, 01:00:45.330 --> 01:00:48.090 I guess our options are, we can go around the circle. 01:00:48.090 --> 01:00:49.630 We can go back grade level again. 01:00:49.630 --> 01:00:51.890 I'm not sure exactly how many amendments are out there. 01:00:51.890 --> 01:00:54.543 Would you rather go grade by grade again? 01:00:55.820 --> 01:00:59.660 Chairman, before you begin, Shelly is handing now 01:00:59.660 --> 01:01:04.660 the rule text that will reflect all of the amendments 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.033 that were made by the committee earlier this week. 01:01:09.170 --> 01:01:11.330 So you have that for reference 01:01:11.330 --> 01:01:13.627 for what has already been addressed. 01:01:15.180 --> 01:01:16.013 Thank you. 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.757 You get that handed out. 01:01:42.229 --> 01:01:44.685 All right, members, let's start kindergarten 01:01:44.685 --> 01:01:48.263 because we don't have any amendments for kindergarten. 01:01:51.610 --> 01:01:53.610 Members, any amendments for first grade? 01:01:56.810 --> 01:01:59.223 Members, any amendments for second grade? 01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:07.083 Members, any amendments for third grade? 01:02:12.700 --> 01:02:15.410 Members, any amendments for fourth grade? 01:02:15.410 --> 01:02:16.243 Mr. Hickman. 01:02:17.948 --> 01:02:20.220 At 411B on the packet, Shelley just handed out. 01:02:25.470 --> 01:02:26.793 I think it's on page 20. 01:02:28.380 --> 01:02:30.647 I could find it in the original one 01:02:30.647 --> 01:02:35.647 and I also handed out a paper on your desk for 411B. 01:02:36.530 --> 01:02:41.530 The motion is to move or strike "and modern life" 01:02:41.700 --> 01:02:44.307 and insert "to modern life". 01:02:48.790 --> 01:02:49.697 So it would read, 01:02:49.697 --> 01:02:53.630 "Explain the critical role of energy resources 01:02:53.630 --> 01:02:54.847 to modern life." 01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:00.303 So it's moving. 01:03:05.600 --> 01:03:07.203 Oh, sorry, that's the motion. 01:03:08.070 --> 01:03:11.947 Moving "to modern life" earlier in the sentence. 01:03:11.947 --> 01:03:14.168 We have a motion. Second. 01:03:14.168 --> 01:03:16.270 Motion and second, you wanna speak to your motion? 01:03:16.270 --> 01:03:17.326 Sure. 01:03:17.326 --> 01:03:18.159 I worked with Dr. Johnson. 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.740 I think the idea of his original amendment 01:03:20.740 --> 01:03:22.300 and correct me here, 01:03:22.300 --> 01:03:26.290 is putting the critical role of energy together 01:03:27.393 --> 01:03:32.090 with the impact on modern life and putting conservation 01:03:32.090 --> 01:03:33.590 together with the environment. 01:03:37.390 --> 01:03:39.498 So members in this scenario, 01:03:39.498 --> 01:03:41.860 it's an expectation that's already been amended. 01:03:41.860 --> 01:03:43.700 So is there any objection to making 01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:45.650 this additional amendment to this item? 01:03:46.900 --> 01:03:48.460 All right, I'm hearing none. 01:03:48.460 --> 01:03:51.880 Is there any further debate or discussion on this item? 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:53.030 Ready to take the vote. 01:03:54.164 --> 01:03:56.110 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 01:03:56.110 --> 01:03:58.003 Any opposed, say no. 01:03:59.625 --> 01:04:00.553 The motion carries. 01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.173 Members, any others in grade four? 01:04:07.168 --> 01:04:08.001 Dr. Johnson. 01:04:09.284 --> 01:04:11.380 I'd like to add 4.11D. 01:04:11.380 --> 01:04:14.330 Determine the physical properties of rocks 01:04:14.330 --> 01:04:17.633 that allow Earth's natural resources to be stored there. 01:04:19.520 --> 01:04:20.863 We have a second? Second. 01:04:23.008 --> 01:04:24.100 All right, Dr. Johnson, 01:04:24.100 --> 01:04:25.450 wanna speak to your motion? 01:04:27.830 --> 01:04:29.850 Well, I think all geologists 01:04:29.850 --> 01:04:31.240 would have confirmed 01:04:31.240 --> 01:04:33.540 that there's lots of different densities to rock, 01:04:33.540 --> 01:04:36.900 but there is a lot of mineral contained in rock. 01:04:36.900 --> 01:04:41.070 So I just think it's another thing that's important to Texas 01:04:41.070 --> 01:04:44.400 to know that a lot of our oil and gas and minerals 01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.540 such as that come from rock. 01:04:47.540 --> 01:04:49.600 They're stored in rock. 01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:50.960 I think your amendment will remain the same 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.530 and it won't change, but I don't see a 411 C. 01:04:53.530 --> 01:04:55.330 So I believe this might be an amendment 01:04:55.330 --> 01:04:56.630 to be placed at 411C. 01:05:00.570 --> 01:05:04.483 So your motion is to make this to 411 C for clarification. 01:05:05.978 --> 01:05:08.310 Did we get a second? Second. 01:05:08.310 --> 01:05:09.876 We have a second. 01:05:09.876 --> 01:05:11.032 And you've spoken to your members. 01:05:11.032 --> 01:05:13.250 Is there any further discussion, Ms. Hardy? 01:05:13.250 --> 01:05:14.527 Yes, sir. 01:05:14.527 --> 01:05:17.500 I have talked to my person 01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:21.710 who is elementary teacher and she's on science. 01:05:21.710 --> 01:05:25.420 And she said, our advisor on that. 01:05:25.420 --> 01:05:28.533 And she said that without this, 01:05:29.870 --> 01:05:32.120 they took out what they used to have in there, 01:05:32.120 --> 01:05:34.930 which was how caves are formed. 01:05:34.930 --> 01:05:39.070 And she feels like that would be a prerequisite to this. 01:05:39.070 --> 01:05:41.250 And so for that reason, 01:05:41.250 --> 01:05:44.630 I'm not gonna be supporting my fellow board member 01:05:44.630 --> 01:05:46.000 on this particular amendment, 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:51.000 because I think that the elementary teacher has spoken, 01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:55.550 elementary social, I mean, science supervisor has spoken 01:05:55.550 --> 01:05:57.960 and discouraged this coming in 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.690 without the prerequisite of understanding 01:06:00.690 --> 01:06:02.760 where caves come from. 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.520 So that's just my thoughts. 01:06:05.520 --> 01:06:06.983 Chairman? Ms. Martinez. 01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:09.670 Just, if the parliamentarian 01:06:09.670 --> 01:06:12.013 would please capitalize Earth. 01:06:13.934 --> 01:06:14.980 I would be happily capitalize Earth. 01:06:14.980 --> 01:06:16.373 Thank you so much. 01:06:20.394 --> 01:06:23.044 Members, any other discussion on this item? 01:06:24.570 --> 01:06:26.020 We're ready to take the vote. 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:28.550 Ms. Melton-Malone? 01:06:28.550 --> 01:06:29.920 I was just gonna say, I mean, 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.189 it's been a while since I've taught second grade 01:06:32.189 --> 01:06:34.020 and I respect what she said, 01:06:34.020 --> 01:06:36.633 but when I was teaching science in second grade, 01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:39.500 we just talked about rocks. 01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:41.130 We didn't talk about any of the other, 01:06:41.130 --> 01:06:44.090 so I don't see where they would need a prerequisite 01:06:44.090 --> 01:06:47.040 because we studied rocks and fossils and everything anyway. 01:06:49.860 --> 01:06:52.020 Microphone placement, sorry. 01:06:52.020 --> 01:06:53.303 Good, okay. 01:06:55.726 --> 01:06:56.559 Any other discussion? 01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:57.543 Ms. Davis. 01:06:57.543 --> 01:06:59.620 So I'd like to echo what Member Melton just said. 01:06:59.620 --> 01:07:02.280 Yeah, this is more about physical properties 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:03.150 and things like that. 01:07:03.150 --> 01:07:07.250 So it doesn't really go deeply into caves and stalagmites 01:07:07.250 --> 01:07:08.083 and all that stuff. 01:07:08.083 --> 01:07:10.470 So I think that would be a great opportunity. 01:07:10.470 --> 01:07:12.010 Just like when we have the rock, 01:07:12.010 --> 01:07:14.720 we got to feel it and touch it and it was pretty awesome. 01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:15.830 It made us think about it. 01:07:15.830 --> 01:07:18.110 So I think this would be a good way to kind a get our kids 01:07:18.110 --> 01:07:20.623 engaged in learning about physical properties. 01:07:22.520 --> 01:07:24.693 Members, any other discussion on this item? 01:07:25.730 --> 01:07:27.870 So I would say if we're ready to take the vote, 01:07:27.870 --> 01:07:32.243 all those in favor of new 411C, show by raising your hand. 01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:39.443 13. 01:07:40.300 --> 01:07:41.133 Lower your hands, please. 01:07:41.133 --> 01:07:43.320 All those opposed, by the same sign, 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:45.090 there's 13 and favor and one against. 01:07:45.090 --> 01:07:46.313 And the motion carries. 01:07:47.240 --> 01:07:51.050 Members, any other amendments for fourth grade? 01:07:51.050 --> 01:07:52.260 Mr. Hickman? 01:07:52.260 --> 01:07:53.400 Sorry. 01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:56.383 We just got a suggestion from staff in second grade. 01:07:57.390 --> 01:07:59.320 Shelly, I don't know if you want us, 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:01.270 or if we're allowed to go back to that. 01:08:02.174 --> 01:08:04.350 Is there any objection to going backwards 01:08:04.350 --> 01:08:07.350 to second grade, Michelle, do you have some comments? 01:08:07.350 --> 01:08:08.183 Yes, sir. 01:08:08.183 --> 01:08:11.920 A staff did breakouts on some of the student expectations 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.160 that were amended on Wednesday. 01:08:14.160 --> 01:08:19.160 We identified a need to adjust grade two 9B 01:08:21.450 --> 01:08:24.580 so that we could make sure that the breakouts were clear 01:08:24.580 --> 01:08:26.260 and teachers were more clear 01:08:26.260 --> 01:08:27.860 on what they should be teaching. 01:08:30.660 --> 01:08:35.660 So we would recommend striking "and compare how." 01:08:43.790 --> 01:08:48.790 And striking "are more visible and can appear different." 01:08:53.930 --> 01:08:58.190 And inserting that language after the word telescope. 01:08:58.190 --> 01:09:00.990 So then it would insert 01:09:04.047 --> 01:09:09.047 "And compare how objects in the sky are more visible 01:09:11.300 --> 01:09:14.717 and can appear differently with the tool." 01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:20.960 Let me repeat it again. 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.257 And compare how objects in the sky 01:09:33.540 --> 01:09:37.233 are more visible and can appear differently with the tool. 01:09:47.990 --> 01:09:49.480 So really, that just restructured, 01:09:49.480 --> 01:09:50.700 it keeps the same content, 01:09:50.700 --> 01:09:53.000 it just restructures the student expectation 01:09:53.910 --> 01:09:55.960 so that it makes a little bit more sense. 01:09:58.750 --> 01:10:01.920 Does any member like to make this motion? 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:04.040 So moved. Do we have a second? 01:10:04.040 --> 01:10:05.140 Second. Okay. 01:10:05.140 --> 01:10:06.420 I think staff has explained it. 01:10:06.420 --> 01:10:08.920 Is there any questions for staff 01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:10.770 or any other discussion on this item? 01:10:12.192 --> 01:10:13.642 So we're gonna understand it. 01:10:17.030 --> 01:10:17.870 No other questions. 01:10:17.870 --> 01:10:19.020 Is there any objection? 01:10:20.060 --> 01:10:21.710 Hearing none, the motion carries. 01:10:23.860 --> 01:10:26.110 And that should take us back to fourth grade. 01:10:26.970 --> 01:10:28.820 Any other amendments in fourth grade? 01:10:31.730 --> 01:10:35.453 Members, any amendments in fifth grade? 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:42.470 Members, any amendments in sixth grade? 01:10:51.317 --> 01:10:56.317 Members, any amendments in seventh grade? 01:11:00.382 --> 01:11:02.493 Members, are there any amendments in eighth grade? 01:11:04.300 --> 01:11:06.363 Ms. Davis, Ms. Perez. 01:11:09.430 --> 01:11:13.443 So for 811C that we deleted. 01:11:15.326 --> 01:11:16.908 We deleted that because we wanted to put 01:11:16.908 --> 01:11:17.741 some better language there. 01:11:17.741 --> 01:11:18.840 I'm trying to get to it. 01:11:21.630 --> 01:11:23.230 Because we had some concerns about it 01:11:23.230 --> 01:11:25.003 being too policy focused. 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.943 So I wanted to try to get some language. 01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:43.440 Ms. Perez. 01:11:44.537 --> 01:11:46.101 Ask the mem, 01:11:46.101 --> 01:11:48.130 are you asking for language recommendations 01:11:48.130 --> 01:11:50.380 or do you have language you'd like to recommend? 01:11:50.380 --> 01:11:51.500 I have a language I'd like to recommend. 01:11:51.500 --> 01:11:52.500 Thank you. 01:11:54.129 --> 01:11:54.962 This part. 01:11:54.962 --> 01:11:55.983 Are you ready? Yes. 01:11:57.160 --> 01:12:00.710 I would like to recommend, "Describe ways 01:12:03.650 --> 01:12:06.520 to address climate change." 01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:07.500 Hold on, go slow. 01:12:07.500 --> 01:12:08.800 Let her go along with you. 01:12:09.860 --> 01:12:12.130 Describe ways to address climate change. 01:12:12.130 --> 01:12:12.963 Yes. 01:12:14.320 --> 01:12:18.013 Through science and technology. 01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:22.360 Is that it? Yes. 01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:24.585 So do we have a second? Second. 01:12:24.585 --> 01:12:25.660 We have a motion and a second. 01:12:25.660 --> 01:12:28.533 Very emphatic second. (laughs) 01:12:30.080 --> 01:12:31.270 Would you like to speak to your motion? 01:12:31.270 --> 01:12:32.890 Sure. 01:12:32.890 --> 01:12:35.560 We discussed that it was good for our students to have 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.290 the opportunity to have the conversation, 01:12:38.290 --> 01:12:40.050 but Member Hickman was concerned 01:12:40.050 --> 01:12:41.870 that it was too policy driven. 01:12:41.870 --> 01:12:43.910 So this way, they still have the opportunity 01:12:43.910 --> 01:12:45.210 to have that conversation, 01:12:45.210 --> 01:12:47.480 but through the lens of science and technology 01:12:47.480 --> 01:12:49.980 like what we intend for this course in particular. 01:12:53.190 --> 01:12:54.190 Ms. Hardy. 01:12:57.700 --> 01:12:58.650 Microphone, please. 01:13:00.630 --> 01:13:02.923 I have a substitute. 01:13:04.550 --> 01:13:06.320 I shared it with her because we've had a little bit 01:13:06.320 --> 01:13:08.160 of activity here this morning. 01:13:08.160 --> 01:13:13.160 But I would ask if you would consider this 01:13:13.660 --> 01:13:15.730 as a substitute to yours. 01:13:15.730 --> 01:13:16.720 Kinda read it. 01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:17.553 May I read it? 01:13:18.620 --> 01:13:19.453 Thank you. 01:13:19.453 --> 01:13:21.420 Compare and discuss the differences in patterns, 01:13:21.420 --> 01:13:24.240 cycles, data, extremes, and changes 01:13:24.240 --> 01:13:27.600 observed in weather and calculated climate 01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:29.593 using historical weather records. 01:13:32.230 --> 01:13:35.700 So where we're at is we have an amendment. 01:13:35.700 --> 01:13:37.410 Ms. Hardy in discussions about something else. 01:13:37.410 --> 01:13:39.100 She hasn't made a secondary amendment. 01:13:39.100 --> 01:13:40.500 I think we can do some more. 01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:45.220 Make sure you get Ms. Kay, the parliamentarian, 01:13:45.220 --> 01:13:47.640 a copy of that while we continue to discuss. 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:49.420 So we're not going to a secondary amendment. 01:13:49.420 --> 01:13:51.673 We have some more discussion on Ms. Davis's. 01:13:53.310 --> 01:13:58.060 I would supplement what Ms. Davis has said 01:13:58.060 --> 01:14:02.780 with the observation that the students that I teach 01:14:04.160 --> 01:14:07.950 are desperate for hope about climate change, 01:14:07.950 --> 01:14:09.890 because they are afraid. 01:14:09.890 --> 01:14:13.630 And I think that that's fairly simple and direct, 01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:16.040 like this would be appropriate. 01:14:16.040 --> 01:14:20.580 And I think that Ms. Hardy, that her suggestion, 01:14:20.580 --> 01:14:25.180 if we go there, is a little bit too complicated 01:14:25.180 --> 01:14:28.720 and doesn't achieve the same goal of having students 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:32.283 address the issue, but in a way that is neutral. 01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:35.870 Ms. Davis? 01:14:35.870 --> 01:14:37.810 I come and respond to that yesterday. 01:14:37.810 --> 01:14:39.860 I was watching the news as I was getting dressed. 01:14:39.860 --> 01:14:42.320 And there was a story about General Motors. 01:14:42.320 --> 01:14:45.130 General Motors is about to move to nearly all electric cars 01:14:45.130 --> 01:14:47.960 by 2035 because of climate change. 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.650 And they have this huge light statement about it. 01:14:51.650 --> 01:14:55.120 And also, that evening I was watching about Madagascar. 01:14:55.120 --> 01:14:56.750 Madagascar is actually going through 01:14:56.750 --> 01:14:59.430 a climate change caused famine. 01:14:59.430 --> 01:15:02.170 And a lot of those citizens there are dying by droves 01:15:02.170 --> 01:15:03.780 because of climate change. 01:15:03.780 --> 01:15:07.290 So I think if we have our students talk about the reality 01:15:07.290 --> 01:15:09.460 of what's happening and how you can use 01:15:09.460 --> 01:15:11.810 science and technology to address these, 01:15:11.810 --> 01:15:14.360 you're hitting some college and career readiness points. 01:15:14.360 --> 01:15:17.380 You're building that base of science and you're getting 01:15:17.380 --> 01:15:18.973 our kids ready for the future. 01:15:22.370 --> 01:15:25.010 Yeah, I will support this amendment. 01:15:25.010 --> 01:15:28.397 Because to me, just compare these two, 01:15:28.397 --> 01:15:31.963 address is a very different word than mitigate first of all. 01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:36.460 And then it also does not include talking 01:15:36.460 --> 01:15:38.640 about reduction greenhouse gas emissions. 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.180 That's not even in this amendment 01:15:41.180 --> 01:15:43.163 that member Davis is proposing. 01:15:44.860 --> 01:15:47.310 I mean, I think that we all agree that climate change 01:15:47.310 --> 01:15:49.860 is occurring, there's a question, 01:15:49.860 --> 01:15:51.750 as I kind of point out the other day is, 01:15:51.750 --> 01:15:55.120 is greenhouse gas emission's a significant factor 01:15:55.120 --> 01:15:57.140 or the significant factor. 01:15:57.140 --> 01:15:57.973 That to me, is unclear, 01:15:57.973 --> 01:16:00.570 but I think this sounds appropriate. 01:16:00.570 --> 01:16:05.313 And really, so I'll be supporting that. 01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:10.113 Is there additional discussion? 01:16:11.270 --> 01:16:13.570 I think there's probably two different options. 01:16:13.570 --> 01:16:15.520 If you wanna make a secondary amendment to see 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.610 if you could get that adopted by the board 01:16:18.610 --> 01:16:21.490 to replace the primary amendment, that would be one option. 01:16:21.490 --> 01:16:25.160 The other would be to, if you wanted that amendment to work, 01:16:25.160 --> 01:16:29.020 to vote this amendment down and then propose your own. 01:16:29.020 --> 01:16:32.415 So those are your two options at this point. 01:16:32.415 --> 01:16:35.220 (Hardy speaking indistinctly) 01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:36.053 I'm sorry? 01:16:36.053 --> 01:16:38.275 (Hardy speaking indistinctly) 01:16:38.275 --> 01:16:40.425 So Ms. Hardy now has a secondary amendment. 01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:43.273 I'm sorry. 01:16:43.273 --> 01:16:44.350 I was close. 01:16:44.350 --> 01:16:45.693 Say substitute amendment. 01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:48.793 I'm sorry, as a substitute amendment. 01:17:22.150 --> 01:17:24.670 We're waiting for the parliamentarian to get it. 01:17:24.670 --> 01:17:29.010 So go ahead and state your motion, your. 01:17:29.010 --> 01:17:30.870 Oh, again? 01:17:30.870 --> 01:17:33.840 Replacing the suggested language 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.390 with this suggested language, 11C, 01:17:36.390 --> 01:17:40.380 compare and discuss the differences patterns, 01:17:40.380 --> 01:17:45.380 cycles, data extremes, and changes observed in weather 01:17:45.790 --> 01:17:49.923 and calculated climate using historical weather records. 01:17:50.860 --> 01:17:52.554 Do we have a second? 01:17:52.554 --> 01:17:54.640 I'll second. A motion and a second. 01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:56.040 You'd like to speak to your? 01:17:57.440 --> 01:18:01.730 I just think it might, I just prefer that one, 01:18:01.730 --> 01:18:03.550 but it's just a difference 01:18:03.550 --> 01:18:07.563 and basically says about the same thing. 01:18:10.230 --> 01:18:14.560 I just think that it has taken the heavier language 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.210 of mitigate out and put another, 01:18:18.210 --> 01:18:21.010 something that's easily compare and discuss 01:18:21.010 --> 01:18:22.430 for the kids to do. 01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:23.430 Ms. Davis? 01:18:25.250 --> 01:18:27.850 I'd have to disagree because this is talking 01:18:27.850 --> 01:18:30.880 about differences in patterns and cycles. 01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.660 Whereas the amendment that I suggested 01:18:33.660 --> 01:18:35.490 would have the students talking about ways 01:18:35.490 --> 01:18:37.100 to address climate change. 01:18:37.100 --> 01:18:40.480 So this comparing discusses kinda looking at patterns, 01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:42.727 what I was hoping that they would do, 01:18:42.727 --> 01:18:43.580 would talk about the patterns 01:18:43.580 --> 01:18:45.210 that they've already learned about and think 01:18:45.210 --> 01:18:49.770 about ways to make our climate more sustainable. 01:18:49.770 --> 01:18:51.593 Any other discussion on this one? 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.280 We're ready to take the vote. 01:18:54.280 --> 01:18:58.050 So this is a substitute amendment as noted on the screen. 01:18:58.050 --> 01:19:00.623 All those in favor show by raising your hand. 01:19:01.690 --> 01:19:02.590 Actually, hold on. 01:19:04.254 --> 01:19:05.656 It's gonna get me back on track. 01:19:05.656 --> 01:19:07.007 It was about site. 01:19:07.007 --> 01:19:08.910 Mr. Chairman, let me suggest that perhaps, 01:19:08.910 --> 01:19:10.630 the way that you want to frame this 01:19:10.630 --> 01:19:15.070 so everyone knows exactly how their vote should be done. 01:19:15.070 --> 01:19:17.990 Is it, if you were in favor of the substitute language 01:19:17.990 --> 01:19:21.690 highlighted in blue, then you would vote in favor 01:19:21.690 --> 01:19:23.130 of the substitute. 01:19:23.130 --> 01:19:27.970 If you would prefer the unhighlighted language above it, 01:19:27.970 --> 01:19:31.283 then you would vote against the motion to substitute. 01:19:32.470 --> 01:19:34.180 What she said, yeah. 01:19:34.180 --> 01:19:35.260 (laughter) 01:19:35.260 --> 01:19:36.140 Mr. Hickman. 01:19:36.140 --> 01:19:37.880 Is this a secondary amendment? 01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:40.333 And then we'll vote on the main amendment? 01:19:42.193 --> 01:19:44.570 It is. 01:19:44.570 --> 01:19:48.800 So once you adopt, whichever one of these comes out 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:52.410 of this cage match of substitution 01:19:52.410 --> 01:19:55.980 that you're about to vote on will then be voted on 01:19:55.980 --> 01:20:00.390 as the amendment or as the language to be inserted. 01:20:00.390 --> 01:20:02.349 Okay, thank you. 01:20:02.349 --> 01:20:07.349 And another substitute could be proposed 01:20:07.930 --> 01:20:11.360 after this one is considered and they could, of course, 01:20:11.360 --> 01:20:14.363 both be defeated and no change could be made. 01:20:15.210 --> 01:20:16.750 So let me get this clear. 01:20:16.750 --> 01:20:19.383 The second one is being voted first? 01:20:21.100 --> 01:20:22.430 No, no. 01:20:22.430 --> 01:20:24.570 The second one is being voted on first 01:20:24.570 --> 01:20:26.943 and the first one is being voted on second? 01:20:29.420 --> 01:20:33.210 So, this is a motion to substitute. 01:20:33.210 --> 01:20:34.160 So the question is, 01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:38.797 shall the language in blue replaced the language in red? 01:20:40.910 --> 01:20:44.450 Which is currently the motion. 01:20:44.450 --> 01:20:48.260 So this is a secondary amendment, 01:20:48.260 --> 01:20:50.660 which is a motion to substitute, 01:20:50.660 --> 01:20:54.797 which is essentially to strike out everything, 01:20:54.797 --> 01:20:57.390 "Describe ways to address climate change" 01:20:57.390 --> 01:21:01.455 and insert, "Compare and discuss the differences." 01:21:01.455 --> 01:21:04.860 So it's a motion to strike out an insert. 01:21:04.860 --> 01:21:07.210 And when you're doing the whole thing, 01:21:07.210 --> 01:21:09.060 it's technically called a substitute. 01:21:10.240 --> 01:21:12.080 If you're in favor of Ms. Hardy's amendment, 01:21:12.080 --> 01:21:12.913 you vote yes. 01:21:12.913 --> 01:21:15.863 If you wanna revert back to Ms. Davis's, you vote no. 01:21:17.190 --> 01:21:18.023 Clear? 01:21:19.070 --> 01:21:20.720 We're ready to vote. 01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.120 So all those in favor show by raising your hand. 01:21:28.677 --> 01:21:30.677 Seven, eight. 01:21:32.490 --> 01:21:33.630 Lower your hands, all those opposed 01:21:33.630 --> 01:21:34.480 by the same sign. 01:21:36.403 --> 01:21:39.750 One, two, three, four, five, six. 01:21:39.750 --> 01:21:42.790 There's eight in favor and six against. 01:21:42.790 --> 01:21:47.150 So the substitute amendment carries. 01:21:47.150 --> 01:21:50.290 So that's the amendment where we're at right now. 01:21:50.290 --> 01:21:53.090 Are there any other amendments on this item? 01:21:53.090 --> 01:21:55.720 Ms. Perez. Thank you. 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.580 The document that I just shared with you all is language 01:21:58.580 --> 01:22:03.440 that Mr. Hickman and I believe might get us 01:22:03.440 --> 01:22:06.650 to where we all want to be with compromising language 01:22:06.650 --> 01:22:10.940 that makes everyone slightly less than happy. 01:22:10.940 --> 01:22:13.933 If you would all, please consider the amendment before you. 01:22:17.710 --> 01:22:19.410 So please state your amendment. 01:22:19.410 --> 01:22:21.390 That's it, yes, you have it in your email. 01:22:21.390 --> 01:22:23.620 So state your amendment, please. 01:22:23.620 --> 01:22:25.270 You have a parliamentary inquiry? 01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:31.093 Is this to be D? 01:22:33.160 --> 01:22:33.993 11D? 01:22:38.260 --> 01:22:39.910 So this would be a substitute amendment 01:22:39.910 --> 01:22:42.083 to what we just adopted there in blue. 01:22:43.980 --> 01:22:45.250 So please state your amendment. 01:22:45.250 --> 01:22:46.870 Thank you. 01:22:46.870 --> 01:22:49.189 It is described the carbon cycle. 01:22:49.189 --> 01:22:50.196 Do we have a second? 01:22:50.196 --> 01:22:51.531 We have a motion and a second. 01:22:51.531 --> 01:22:53.123 You wanna speak to your amendment any further? 01:22:56.440 --> 01:22:57.273 Mr. Hickman. 01:22:58.110 --> 01:23:00.700 Yeah, I think this is the science 01:23:00.700 --> 01:23:02.680 we've been thinking about and talking about, 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:04.563 and working with my colleague here. 01:23:05.570 --> 01:23:08.070 If you just Google carbon cycle diagram, 01:23:08.070 --> 01:23:09.360 you'll get about a hundred pictures 01:23:09.360 --> 01:23:11.220 like the one you have on your desk. 01:23:11.220 --> 01:23:15.750 You can see the trees doing photosynthesis taking in CO2. 01:23:15.750 --> 01:23:17.591 You can see underground, dead organisms, 01:23:17.591 --> 01:23:19.680 forming fossil fuels. 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:23.100 You can see animals giving off carbon dioxide. 01:23:23.100 --> 01:23:24.630 You can see the factories and cars 01:23:24.630 --> 01:23:26.620 giving off carbon dioxide. 01:23:26.620 --> 01:23:28.610 The trees actually give off carbon dioxide 01:23:28.610 --> 01:23:30.680 in terms of respiration. 01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.960 So this is kind of the science that we're talking about. 01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:38.510 This is the simple science we've also talked about. 01:23:38.510 --> 01:23:40.610 If I'm here, I'll be happy to support something 01:23:40.610 --> 01:23:44.620 in social studies to talk about the policy next year, 01:23:44.620 --> 01:23:45.900 but for eighth grade science, 01:23:45.900 --> 01:23:48.340 I think this is what we're looking for 01:23:48.340 --> 01:23:51.260 in terms of where carbon dioxide comes from, 01:23:51.260 --> 01:23:53.010 where it goes and how to manage it. 01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:55.060 Ms. Hardy? 01:23:55.988 --> 01:24:00.988 I would ask maker of the amendment to consider 01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:09.470 keeping the 11C and and go ahead and adding the 11D 01:24:09.470 --> 01:24:12.001 as a wrap-up for getting to that point. 01:24:12.001 --> 01:24:15.300 Because they're really two different things. 01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:20.300 What 11C says and what this one D does, which is good. 01:24:21.780 --> 01:24:24.820 Are not exactly the same thing. 01:24:24.820 --> 01:24:26.963 And I would like to see this in there, 01:24:28.165 --> 01:24:29.643 but I would like to also keep 11C. 01:24:35.250 --> 01:24:40.100 I like this diagram because it helps students 01:24:40.100 --> 01:24:43.139 understand the cycle. 01:24:43.139 --> 01:24:48.139 And I am still concerned that it gives no hint 01:24:50.540 --> 01:24:54.890 at looking at how to solve the problem that we face, 01:24:54.890 --> 01:24:57.910 regardless of what people think is the cause 01:24:57.910 --> 01:25:01.950 for global warming, global warming is the problem 01:25:01.950 --> 01:25:05.843 that students face and that we all face. 01:25:12.590 --> 01:25:14.270 I would vote in favor of this, 01:25:14.270 --> 01:25:19.270 but I would like to see something additional 01:25:19.570 --> 01:25:24.240 that would give students some glimmer of hope. 01:25:24.240 --> 01:25:27.830 Some idea that we could actually 01:25:27.830 --> 01:25:29.663 have an influence on this problem. 01:25:30.792 --> 01:25:34.140 Ms. Davis. Thank you. 01:25:34.140 --> 01:25:36.650 I really would support this as a substitution. 01:25:36.650 --> 01:25:39.740 The new C that we just adopted is very, very packed. 01:25:39.740 --> 01:25:41.260 It is very, very packed. 01:25:41.260 --> 01:25:43.460 And I would like to know how much additional 01:25:44.444 --> 01:25:46.810 instructional time that one addition will cause. 01:25:46.810 --> 01:25:49.330 Cause there is a lot that we are requiring 01:25:49.330 --> 01:25:51.610 in that new addition in 11C. 01:25:51.610 --> 01:25:55.750 So if anybody can discuss about the estimate 01:25:55.750 --> 01:25:59.000 on how much instructional time that'll take 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.150 to go through each and every one of those pieces 01:26:01.150 --> 01:26:04.140 that's in that C, I really think this new substitute 01:26:04.140 --> 01:26:07.023 would be a lot more effective for our teachers. 01:26:07.900 --> 01:26:11.186 Ms. Davis, staff is looking at that right now. 01:26:11.186 --> 01:26:12.750 They would agree with you. 01:26:12.750 --> 01:26:15.610 They've they've already said that this would add 01:26:15.610 --> 01:26:17.690 instructional time, but they're trying to come up 01:26:17.690 --> 01:26:18.940 with an estimate for you. 01:26:23.850 --> 01:26:27.580 Even then, just acknowledging that it would have 01:26:27.580 --> 01:26:29.473 a significant impact on instructional time, 01:26:29.473 --> 01:26:33.330 that's why I really would like to do this as a substitute 01:26:33.330 --> 01:26:35.753 rather than what we've just adopted. 01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:38.513 I'm sorry. 01:26:38.513 --> 01:26:40.510 So Dr. Ellis, I apologize for interrupting. 01:26:40.510 --> 01:26:41.910 Staff just said it would add 01:26:42.754 --> 01:26:44.070 about a week's worth of instructional time. 01:26:44.070 --> 01:26:44.903 One week. 01:26:48.150 --> 01:26:50.960 I would like to agree with Ms. Davis 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.660 that adding this as a substitute would be better 01:26:54.660 --> 01:26:58.933 and it would not add a week's worth of instructional time. 01:27:02.810 --> 01:27:05.677 Members, any other thoughts or discussions 01:27:05.677 --> 01:27:06.740 on the item? 01:27:06.740 --> 01:27:08.200 Dr. Robinson. 01:27:08.200 --> 01:27:09.420 Yeah, we've heard, 01:27:09.420 --> 01:27:12.200 in the last few years, we've gone through streamlining 01:27:12.200 --> 01:27:14.880 of the TEKS because we've heard from teachers 01:27:16.659 --> 01:27:18.820 that's there's a mile wide, inch deep, there's way too much. 01:27:18.820 --> 01:27:20.520 And so if we're adding a week, 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:24.170 I don't think I see why we should do that. 01:27:24.170 --> 01:27:26.490 I don't think that's a good idea, really. 01:27:26.490 --> 01:27:27.490 Ms. Hardy. 01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:31.980 With the fact that that's a graded subject, 01:27:31.980 --> 01:27:34.510 I mean, a tested subject and considering 01:27:34.510 --> 01:27:38.257 the instructional time, I'll withdrawal my C 01:27:39.620 --> 01:27:42.280 and so be in support of this C. 01:27:42.280 --> 01:27:44.720 So I think technically, 01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:49.113 the motion to substitute would essentially do that. 01:27:50.263 --> 01:27:51.460 I'd like the motions to substitute. 01:27:51.460 --> 01:27:53.373 That will get you there from here. 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:58.130 We're ready for the vote. 01:28:00.115 --> 01:28:03.460 All those in favor of the substitute amendment to 811C. 01:28:03.460 --> 01:28:05.690 That would now read, describe the carbon cycle, 01:28:05.690 --> 01:28:06.990 show by raising your hand. 01:28:14.579 --> 01:28:15.412 Lower your hands, please. 01:28:15.412 --> 01:28:17.143 All those opposed by the same sign. 01:28:18.650 --> 01:28:19.483 Motion carries. 01:28:19.483 --> 01:28:21.320 And we now have a bi-partisan 811C. 01:28:34.270 --> 01:28:37.343 Members, is there any other amendments in grade eight? 01:28:40.130 --> 01:28:42.293 Members, are there any other amendments? 01:28:45.360 --> 01:28:47.570 Mr. Chairman. Yes, ma'am. 01:28:47.570 --> 01:28:49.490 You have adopted the substitute. 01:28:49.490 --> 01:28:52.690 Now your pending amendment is to insert this. 01:28:52.690 --> 01:28:56.190 You just need another vote on describing the carbon cycle, 01:28:56.190 --> 01:28:58.941 which is now your primary amendment. 01:28:58.941 --> 01:28:59.840 Okay. 01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:01.497 Y'all catch that. 01:29:01.497 --> 01:29:03.530 So now describe the carbon cycle in 811C 01:29:03.530 --> 01:29:05.060 is now the primary amendment. 01:29:05.060 --> 01:29:07.487 So we need another vote to do that. 01:29:07.487 --> 01:29:09.112 So moved. So it has been moved. 01:29:09.112 --> 01:29:09.945 Second. Seconded. 01:29:09.945 --> 01:29:11.690 Is there any objection? 01:29:11.690 --> 01:29:13.633 Hearing none, motion carries. 01:29:14.659 --> 01:29:16.076 Thanks very much. 01:29:17.590 --> 01:29:19.001 Yes, sir. 01:29:19.001 --> 01:29:23.890 So there was an amendment made on Wednesday in grade eight. 01:29:23.890 --> 01:29:27.360 And I can provide you more information. 01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:29.523 Sorry, I have a lot of papers in front of me. 01:29:32.050 --> 01:29:35.870 It was new 6B on the rural texts that we passed out, 01:29:35.870 --> 01:29:38.020 that would be on page 38. 01:29:38.020 --> 01:29:40.500 Describe the arrangement of the periodic table, 01:29:40.500 --> 01:29:43.090 including groups and periods to explain how properties 01:29:43.090 --> 01:29:44.981 are used to classify elements. 01:29:44.981 --> 01:29:47.830 And staff raised some significant concern 01:29:47.830 --> 01:29:48.984 with that addition. 01:29:48.984 --> 01:29:53.984 Because one of the pieces that has been eliminated 01:29:54.810 --> 01:29:58.810 from eighth grade and your work groups agreed 01:29:58.810 --> 01:30:01.020 was more appropriate in high. 01:30:01.020 --> 01:30:02.690 I'm sorry, can you tell me where we're at? 01:30:02.690 --> 01:30:05.580 Pace 38, 6B. 01:30:05.580 --> 01:30:06.533 Thank you. 01:30:08.635 --> 01:30:10.810 So the students would need to have 01:30:10.810 --> 01:30:13.260 background knowledge in atomic structure 01:30:13.260 --> 01:30:18.150 to be able to be proficient in this student expectation. 01:30:18.150 --> 01:30:21.670 And atomic structure has been intentionally removed 01:30:21.670 --> 01:30:24.680 from middle school because the work groups believed 01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:26.380 that it was more developmentally appropriate 01:30:26.380 --> 01:30:27.940 for high school. 01:30:27.940 --> 01:30:31.815 So that created some significant problems. 01:30:31.815 --> 01:30:36.320 We talked to the maker of this amendment 01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:38.910 and we've offered some alternative language 01:30:38.910 --> 01:30:40.810 that would, I think, meet her concerns 01:30:40.810 --> 01:30:45.810 to make sure that students are using the periodic table 01:30:45.830 --> 01:30:48.250 at sixth, seventh, and eighth grade. 01:30:48.250 --> 01:30:53.250 And so we have two proposal, two proposed additions 01:30:55.300 --> 01:30:56.600 if the board were willing. 01:30:58.890 --> 01:31:01.510 Remind me, whose motion? 01:31:01.510 --> 01:31:03.293 Dr. Young. Okay. 01:31:07.340 --> 01:31:11.840 So is there any objection to what staff's, Mr. Cortez? 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:12.840 Just have a question. 01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:17.840 And so the additions mean on top of that new item, 01:31:18.590 --> 01:31:21.670 there's still more time to add on top of that? 01:31:21.670 --> 01:31:22.503 No, sir. 01:31:22.503 --> 01:31:26.140 We think it would actually, striking that amendment 01:31:26.140 --> 01:31:27.930 and adding to student expectations 01:31:27.930 --> 01:31:29.723 actually reduce the amount of time. 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:32.439 So what would it look like now? 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:35.323 You're offering something, what is the new offer? 01:31:37.740 --> 01:31:38.573 Can I share? 01:31:38.573 --> 01:31:43.210 So what the proposal would be in seventh grade, 01:31:44.860 --> 01:31:46.313 to add a new 6B. 01:31:53.068 --> 01:31:56.885 Is that the highlighted one? 01:31:56.885 --> 01:31:59.590 It would be in addition to that, at sixth grade. 01:31:59.590 --> 01:32:04.590 So for sixth grade, we'll get you a page number on that. 01:32:06.324 --> 01:32:07.526 33, thank you. 01:32:07.526 --> 01:32:09.048 So new 6B. 01:32:09.048 --> 01:32:11.733 (man speaking indistinctly) 01:32:11.733 --> 01:32:12.783 Sorry, seventh grade. 01:32:15.030 --> 01:32:16.223 New 6B. 01:32:17.490 --> 01:32:19.640 And Kay, this has changed very slightly. 01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:24.640 Use the periodic table to identify the atoms 01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:32.780 and the number of each kind 01:32:35.730 --> 01:32:38.363 within a chemical formula. 01:32:40.690 --> 01:32:43.810 So this would have students studying the arrangement 01:32:43.810 --> 01:32:48.360 of the periodic table as they're identifying the atoms 01:32:48.360 --> 01:32:51.440 and the number of each kind within a chemical formula. 01:32:51.440 --> 01:32:54.653 So it's grade level appropriate for seventh grade. 01:32:56.020 --> 01:32:58.930 And then in addition to that, because Dr. Young 01:32:58.930 --> 01:33:01.090 wanted to make sure that it was scaffolded 01:33:01.090 --> 01:33:02.740 across sixth, seventh, and eight. 01:33:04.210 --> 01:33:09.210 Then in eighth grade, staff proposes striking 6B, 38 01:33:15.160 --> 01:33:20.160 and replacing it with use the periodic table 01:33:22.270 --> 01:33:26.193 to identify the atoms involved in chemical reactions. 01:33:35.370 --> 01:33:37.350 And to your question, Mr. Cortez, 01:33:37.350 --> 01:33:40.400 if we were to strike this and replace it, 01:33:40.400 --> 01:33:43.160 it would actually reduce instructional time 01:33:43.160 --> 01:33:47.070 because teachers wouldn't have to go into atomic structure 01:33:47.070 --> 01:33:49.995 and they don't think it's developmentally appropriate yet. 01:33:49.995 --> 01:33:53.120 So as opposed to just deleting the entire thing, 01:33:53.120 --> 01:33:55.020 because it wasn't taught, 01:33:55.020 --> 01:33:58.820 you're saying by adding six eighth grade language, 01:33:58.820 --> 01:34:00.398 it reduces time? 01:34:00.398 --> 01:34:01.693 'Cause it sounds like it adds time. 01:34:03.794 --> 01:34:06.294 It seems like it shouldn't be there to begin with. 01:34:07.130 --> 01:34:09.440 If you were to delete it entirely, 01:34:09.440 --> 01:34:12.963 yes, that would be the least amount of instructional time. 01:34:14.450 --> 01:34:17.570 So this does add some instructional time. 01:34:17.570 --> 01:34:19.430 But one of the things that our science team has told me 01:34:19.430 --> 01:34:21.903 is these are concepts that are already addressed, 01:34:22.883 --> 01:34:27.357 it's being clearer and including it in the standards. 01:34:29.740 --> 01:34:32.446 Members, I need clarify with the parliamentarian, 01:34:32.446 --> 01:34:33.300 we can do this in mass? 01:34:33.300 --> 01:34:36.720 All these changes in one process? 01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:37.553 Ms. Hardy. 01:34:39.140 --> 01:34:40.730 I would be in agreement with this. 01:34:40.730 --> 01:34:42.910 I think the language is clearer 01:34:42.910 --> 01:34:45.160 and it has the scaffolding effect 01:34:45.160 --> 01:34:47.360 that the teachers were concerned about not having 01:34:47.360 --> 01:34:51.030 going from sixth to 10th grade without being introduced 01:34:51.030 --> 01:34:53.390 any more to the periodic tables. 01:34:53.390 --> 01:34:57.123 And this would help alleviate that situation. 01:34:58.420 --> 01:35:00.253 Members, any other discussion? 01:35:02.290 --> 01:35:04.360 So do we have the motion? Yes. 01:35:05.310 --> 01:35:08.120 We have it seconded? Second. 01:35:08.120 --> 01:35:09.170 We have a motion and a second. 01:35:09.170 --> 01:35:11.940 Is there any further discussion on this item? 01:35:11.940 --> 01:35:12.773 Mr. Hickman. 01:35:13.690 --> 01:35:16.020 Shelly, I don't know if you can answer this 01:35:16.020 --> 01:35:17.891 or if you need to phone a friend. 01:35:17.891 --> 01:35:19.810 So like the seventh grade, it would be, 01:35:19.810 --> 01:35:22.600 you'd get the formula CO2 and you'd look on the table 01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:24.990 and see C is carbon and O is oxygen. 01:35:24.990 --> 01:35:28.820 And then eighth grade, you'd see the burning of methane 01:35:28.820 --> 01:35:31.120 and you'd see what methane was made of 01:35:31.120 --> 01:35:33.010 and the oxygen and so on. 01:35:33.010 --> 01:35:33.980 That's the idea? 01:35:33.980 --> 01:35:34.813 Yes, sir. 01:35:34.813 --> 01:35:36.520 And you've just expended my knowledge 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:37.440 of chemistry right there, 01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:40.330 but yes, I knew enough to know that that is correct. 01:35:40.330 --> 01:35:43.247 That's about mine too. 01:35:52.147 --> 01:35:53.686 Members, any others? 01:35:53.686 --> 01:35:54.742 Ms. Perez-Diaz? 01:35:54.742 --> 01:35:55.746 Thank you, Chair. 01:35:55.746 --> 01:35:56.902 So just for clarification. 01:35:56.902 --> 01:35:59.100 So I don't remember how the motion was read, 01:35:59.100 --> 01:36:02.100 but we're taking up the new B 01:36:02.100 --> 01:36:05.720 and then the shifted C, D and E altogether, is that correct? 01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:07.490 Everything that was proposed by staff 01:36:07.490 --> 01:36:08.530 will be done in one notion. 01:36:08.530 --> 01:36:09.931 Perfect. 01:36:09.931 --> 01:36:11.264 Okay, thank you. 01:36:15.197 --> 01:36:17.103 All right, any other discussion? 01:36:18.258 --> 01:36:19.408 Is there any objection? 01:36:20.970 --> 01:36:22.620 Hearing none, the motion carries. 01:36:32.170 --> 01:36:35.573 Any other amendments to science grades K through eight? 01:36:37.890 --> 01:36:39.485 Mr. Chairman. 01:36:39.485 --> 01:36:44.040 I believe that Dr. Bell-Metereau is intended to make one. 01:36:44.040 --> 01:36:46.497 And she she's trying to work to get it. 01:36:46.497 --> 01:36:48.460 But I think it's just a small introduction 01:36:48.460 --> 01:36:50.963 in the minute to the introduction? 01:36:53.375 --> 01:36:58.220 I did send it before noon, but Ms. Lenny 01:36:58.220 --> 01:37:00.253 is seeing if that's available. 01:37:02.780 --> 01:37:07.363 I apologize for not having at all ready to distribute. 01:37:10.354 --> 01:37:12.360 Chairman, if it would help at all, 01:37:12.360 --> 01:37:15.590 I believe what Dr. Bell-Metereau is referring to is language 01:37:15.590 --> 01:37:17.303 that we did post online. 01:37:18.519 --> 01:37:22.230 So if you go to the TEA website, 01:37:23.460 --> 01:37:27.660 let's see if I can do this successfully. 01:37:27.660 --> 01:37:30.900 Under academics, you'll see Texas Essential Knowledge 01:37:30.900 --> 01:37:32.953 and Skills review and revision. 01:37:35.630 --> 01:37:36.800 And then from there, 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:41.773 you'll wanna scroll down until you see Science TEKS Review. 01:37:44.120 --> 01:37:47.110 And then you'll see two links on that page. 01:37:47.110 --> 01:37:49.930 One says additional amendments, 01:37:49.930 --> 01:37:52.970 and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Dr. Bell-Metereau, 01:37:52.970 --> 01:37:54.620 but I think that's your language. 01:37:56.130 --> 01:37:57.580 Yes, it is. 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:01.914 So clarifying. 01:38:01.914 --> 01:38:03.440 There's a lot of green, new language, 01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:07.716 red, deleted, but is this the same thing in each grade? 01:38:07.716 --> 01:38:09.463 So we need to look at at one time essentially? 01:38:11.610 --> 01:38:13.400 It is the same in each grade. 01:38:13.400 --> 01:38:15.190 It's just, it's one change. 01:38:15.190 --> 01:38:20.190 It's a description of the methods of investigation. 01:38:24.070 --> 01:38:29.070 And this was suggested by constituent 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.830 and I am not a scientist, but it looked to me 01:38:32.830 --> 01:38:36.463 like it was offering valuable definitions. 01:38:38.997 --> 01:38:43.997 And I know that it's not something that would be tested, 01:38:44.120 --> 01:38:46.570 but it would be useful information in each, 01:38:46.570 --> 01:38:48.580 at each grade level. 01:38:48.580 --> 01:38:51.010 So Chairman, I just wanna clarify, 01:38:51.010 --> 01:38:52.530 so that is true of language 01:38:52.530 --> 01:38:53.730 that would be in the introduction. 01:38:53.730 --> 01:38:56.810 But this document also shows amendments 01:38:56.810 --> 01:38:58.453 to student expectations. 01:38:59.500 --> 01:39:02.240 So I don't know if the intent is only to look 01:39:02.240 --> 01:39:04.620 at the language and the introductions or everything, 01:39:04.620 --> 01:39:06.880 but when you see, for example, knowledge and skills, 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:11.280 that's when you start getting into student expectations. 01:39:11.280 --> 01:39:13.330 And that would involve 01:39:13.330 --> 01:39:15.360 additional class time? 01:39:15.360 --> 01:39:16.490 Right, all of those things 01:39:16.490 --> 01:39:18.090 that we've been discussing, yes. 01:39:21.150 --> 01:39:26.040 Well, I am an inexperienced member. 01:39:26.040 --> 01:39:27.140 I must confess. 01:39:27.140 --> 01:39:32.140 And so, I do not wanna add additional class time. 01:39:32.410 --> 01:39:36.220 I don't know if there's any way to include any of this 01:39:36.220 --> 01:39:41.220 in an introductory place that is not requiring testing 01:39:41.730 --> 01:39:44.223 of these particular definitions. 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:48.230 So my understanding that it's your intent to offer 01:39:48.230 --> 01:39:50.200 and amendment strictly to the introductions 01:39:50.200 --> 01:39:52.140 and not for any of the knowledge and skills 01:39:52.140 --> 01:39:53.850 that's on this document? 01:39:53.850 --> 01:39:55.110 Yes. 01:39:55.110 --> 01:39:57.453 And I don't know if that's kosher. 01:39:58.330 --> 01:39:59.250 It's your amendment. 01:39:59.250 --> 01:40:00.963 So you get to decide. 01:40:03.870 --> 01:40:05.333 I can't find it. 01:40:12.990 --> 01:40:13.823 I'm not even. 01:40:17.480 --> 01:40:19.347 This is gonna take forever. 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.690 Mr. Chairman? Mr. Maynard. 01:40:34.690 --> 01:40:36.640 Would it be permissible for the full board 01:40:36.640 --> 01:40:38.990 to just to stand at ease to allow her to get that? 01:40:38.990 --> 01:40:41.740 If there's no objection, we'll stand at ease. 01:41:35.373 --> 01:41:38.317 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 01:41:38.317 --> 01:41:41.650 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 01:42:24.417 --> 01:42:25.440 On the screen. 01:42:25.440 --> 01:42:30.040 So the amendment on the screen and the introductions 01:42:30.040 --> 01:42:32.910 in section A and section three is just confirming 01:42:32.910 --> 01:42:35.230 that that's your motion. 01:42:35.230 --> 01:42:36.410 Yes. Okay. 01:42:36.410 --> 01:42:37.910 Do we have a second? 01:42:38.765 --> 01:42:40.466 We have a motion and a second. 01:42:40.466 --> 01:42:41.880 You wanna speak to your motion? 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:43.561 You did a little bit, 01:42:43.561 --> 01:42:44.477 but is there anything else you'd like to add? 01:42:46.990 --> 01:42:50.063 I would like to add that I think the work 01:42:50.063 --> 01:42:54.420 that the teachers did in the work groups is excellent. 01:42:54.420 --> 01:42:57.580 These revisions were recommended to me 01:42:57.580 --> 01:43:01.770 and I'm not a scientist, but I am an English teacher. 01:43:01.770 --> 01:43:06.210 And I think that having clear definitions is useful 01:43:06.210 --> 01:43:08.830 for everyone as a foundation. 01:43:08.830 --> 01:43:12.800 So this introduction gives those clear definitions, 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:16.590 wordsmith by both a scientist and an English teacher. 01:43:16.590 --> 01:43:21.253 And so I believe that they are legitimate additions 01:43:22.290 --> 01:43:25.010 that will not add extra teaching time, 01:43:25.010 --> 01:43:27.260 but will be useful to teachers. 01:43:27.260 --> 01:43:32.260 And therefore, I recommend that we include these definitions 01:43:33.730 --> 01:43:38.730 and it is not at all, a political or complicated addition, 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:41.623 but I do believe it is valuable. 01:43:42.671 --> 01:43:44.460 I have a question to either the maker 01:43:44.460 --> 01:43:45.610 of the motion or the staff, 01:43:45.610 --> 01:43:48.491 maybe either one that could chime in. 01:43:48.491 --> 01:43:51.660 Would this keep us vertically aligned K through high school 01:43:51.660 --> 01:43:55.230 or that cause a misalignment? 01:43:55.230 --> 01:43:57.839 It would create a misalignment 01:43:57.839 --> 01:44:00.930 with the introductions that you've adopted 01:44:00.930 --> 01:44:03.853 for the nine high school courses. 01:44:06.150 --> 01:44:07.630 Could you explain 01:44:07.630 --> 01:44:10.140 how it would create misalignment? 01:44:10.140 --> 01:44:12.910 The features of this that would create misalignment? 01:44:12.910 --> 01:44:14.570 The whole thing, or? 01:44:14.570 --> 01:44:17.280 All of the things in green are not included 01:44:17.280 --> 01:44:19.890 in the introduction for the nine high school courses 01:44:19.890 --> 01:44:22.140 that have already been adopted by this board. 01:44:25.320 --> 01:44:30.210 And is there ever any chance of making 01:44:30.210 --> 01:44:32.700 that kind of change in the high school? 01:44:32.700 --> 01:44:33.980 I realized that the high school 01:44:33.980 --> 01:44:36.650 is already completed and approved. 01:44:36.650 --> 01:44:41.650 But would it be possible to return at some point 01:44:42.160 --> 01:44:46.770 to the high school curriculum to help with alignment? 01:44:46.770 --> 01:44:48.850 Ms. Bev, Dr. Bell-Metereau, there's no intention 01:44:48.850 --> 01:44:51.633 from the chair to reopen high school science. 01:44:52.630 --> 01:44:55.180 Okay, then I withdraw the motion. 01:44:56.056 --> 01:44:58.100 Is there any objection to the withdrawal 01:44:58.100 --> 01:44:58.933 of the motion? 01:44:58.933 --> 01:44:59.940 I object. You object. 01:44:59.940 --> 01:45:02.403 Mr. Hickman objection now. 01:45:02.403 --> 01:45:03.420 Is that on the withdrawal? 01:45:03.420 --> 01:45:04.253 Yeah. Okay. 01:45:04.253 --> 01:45:08.510 So at this point in time, we will take a vote. 01:45:08.510 --> 01:45:12.500 All those who are in favor of allowing Dr. Bell-Metereau 01:45:12.500 --> 01:45:16.063 to withdraw our motion, show by raising your hand. 01:45:17.930 --> 01:45:20.220 This is to allow Dr. Bell-Metereau 01:45:20.220 --> 01:45:22.043 to withdraw the objection. 01:45:24.271 --> 01:45:25.767 To withdraw the motion. 01:45:25.767 --> 01:45:30.600 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 01:45:31.670 --> 01:45:33.690 Lower your hands, please. 01:45:33.690 --> 01:45:35.573 All those opposed by the same sign? 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:43.780 Eight and favor and two against. 01:45:43.780 --> 01:45:46.170 So the motion from Dr. Bell-Metereau 01:45:46.170 --> 01:45:48.300 to withdraw her the motion carries. 01:45:48.300 --> 01:45:49.960 The withdrawal. 01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:54.073 Any other motions or I'm sorry, any other amendments? 01:45:56.831 --> 01:45:58.131 I think it's out of order. 01:46:00.950 --> 01:46:03.430 (indistinct) I would suggest 01:46:03.430 --> 01:46:07.334 that it is (indistinct). 01:46:07.334 --> 01:46:09.900 Parliamentarian said since we didn't vote on it, 01:46:09.900 --> 01:46:12.030 it would not be out of order. 01:46:12.030 --> 01:46:12.863 It would be in order. 01:46:13.890 --> 01:46:15.740 I'll make the same motion. Okay. 01:46:17.910 --> 01:46:19.874 Motion has been made. 01:46:19.874 --> 01:46:21.695 Do we have a second? Second. 01:46:21.695 --> 01:46:22.790 We have a motion and a second. 01:46:22.790 --> 01:46:23.950 You'd like to speak to your motion? 01:46:23.950 --> 01:46:24.783 Sure. 01:46:24.783 --> 01:46:25.640 Just one quick change, 01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:27.890 I think we need a comma after correlative 01:46:27.890 --> 01:46:29.563 in the third line in A. 01:46:31.011 --> 01:46:36.011 But I think this is a valuable input 01:46:36.140 --> 01:46:37.700 from a scientific perspective. 01:46:37.700 --> 01:46:40.610 I have problems with the vertical alignment issue 01:46:40.610 --> 01:46:43.090 because otherwise, we can never change anything 01:46:43.090 --> 01:46:44.690 because it will always be out of alignment 01:46:44.690 --> 01:46:45.890 when we make a change somewhere. 01:46:45.890 --> 01:46:47.743 It's not in alignment somewhere else. 01:46:49.160 --> 01:46:51.150 So I think the issue here will be the middle school kids, 01:46:51.150 --> 01:46:53.730 although a little more than the high school kids. 01:46:53.730 --> 01:46:55.780 But other than that, I don't see it as an issue. 01:46:55.780 --> 01:46:57.530 And I am in favor of these changes. 01:47:01.930 --> 01:47:03.325 I would like to comment-- 01:47:03.325 --> 01:47:05.319 Is there a discussion, Dr. Bell-Metereau? 01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:06.152 I would like to comment on that. 01:47:06.152 --> 01:47:10.160 That is something that has troubled me as well, 01:47:10.160 --> 01:47:15.140 because I have heard from a number of scientists 01:47:15.140 --> 01:47:19.160 that they do see some issues with the high school science. 01:47:20.620 --> 01:47:25.093 And I have been wondering if we can ever seek to make 01:47:26.500 --> 01:47:30.053 some changes in high school science. 01:47:31.040 --> 01:47:36.040 Because I think that the K through eight is actually 01:47:36.130 --> 01:47:39.500 a better curriculum having been given 01:47:39.500 --> 01:47:41.350 a little bit more time to work on it. 01:47:42.578 --> 01:47:43.411 No, I would say the fact 01:47:43.411 --> 01:47:44.244 that since I've got on the board, 01:47:44.244 --> 01:47:46.530 we did English language arts for a two-year process. 01:47:46.530 --> 01:47:47.660 And after the completion of that, 01:47:47.660 --> 01:47:50.010 there were still those who wanna make additional changes 01:47:50.010 --> 01:47:51.157 even after two years. 01:47:51.157 --> 01:47:54.070 And the same happens in each of the subjects 01:47:54.070 --> 01:47:54.903 that we went through. 01:47:54.903 --> 01:47:59.460 I think there's always, even after we spend years, 01:47:59.460 --> 01:48:01.240 if not sometimes two years on the subject, 01:48:01.240 --> 01:48:03.050 there's always additional changes. 01:48:03.050 --> 01:48:07.570 Oftentimes, those changes can require additional content, 01:48:07.570 --> 01:48:09.430 additional student expectations, 01:48:09.430 --> 01:48:12.368 which leads to additional instruction material. 01:48:12.368 --> 01:48:14.590 So I'm not disagreeing in the fact 01:48:14.590 --> 01:48:16.280 that there may be a valid argument 01:48:16.280 --> 01:48:18.870 about adding additional content, 01:48:18.870 --> 01:48:20.420 but I think it's a slippery slope, 01:48:20.420 --> 01:48:23.720 not the case here because it's in the introductions. 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.560 But just generally about reopening subjects. 01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:28.440 I know there's math, people want math reopened, 01:48:28.440 --> 01:48:31.350 there's English people and English reopened and so forth. 01:48:31.350 --> 01:48:32.852 So that's a concern. 01:48:32.852 --> 01:48:35.733 Not that I'm telling you 01:48:35.733 --> 01:48:38.037 that your assertions are false or the needs to change it. 01:48:38.037 --> 01:48:40.140 And it's just more of the process. 01:48:40.140 --> 01:48:41.220 Mr. Hickman. 01:48:41.220 --> 01:48:42.250 And just to be clear, 01:48:42.250 --> 01:48:44.110 I'm not asking to reopen high school. 01:48:44.110 --> 01:48:46.600 I don't think we need to, and it's not before us. 01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:48.370 What we have before us is K through eight. 01:48:48.370 --> 01:48:50.870 And I think these amendments make K through eight better. 01:48:50.870 --> 01:48:53.641 And in 10 years, we can look at high school. 01:48:53.641 --> 01:48:55.790 Any other discussion on this item? 01:48:55.790 --> 01:48:57.450 Dr. Ellis, just to clarify. 01:48:57.450 --> 01:48:59.210 My understanding of these amendments, 01:48:59.210 --> 01:49:00.983 they would only apply to K five? 01:49:09.050 --> 01:49:09.990 Further clarification 01:49:09.990 --> 01:49:12.240 is what you're seeing on the screen as stated 01:49:13.106 --> 01:49:16.723 to be changes from grades K through five. 01:49:17.790 --> 01:49:19.190 Any further discussion? 01:49:19.190 --> 01:49:20.023 Mr. Cortez. 01:49:21.110 --> 01:49:23.920 What is the intent of the maker of the motion 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:25.620 all the way through middle school? 01:49:28.470 --> 01:49:29.303 No, sorry. 01:49:29.303 --> 01:49:30.136 I misspoke. 01:49:30.136 --> 01:49:31.090 We have K through eight before us, 01:49:31.090 --> 01:49:32.940 but this amendment is K through five. 01:49:37.610 --> 01:49:40.803 Explanation again, I'm lost in this whole thing. 01:49:42.763 --> 01:49:45.140 We had a testifier 01:49:45.140 --> 01:49:46.570 a few days ago talk about this. 01:49:46.570 --> 01:49:49.600 This is just adding correlative, 01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:52.840 which is comparing different sets of data with each other, 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:56.450 adding inferences, adding and comparing 01:49:56.450 --> 01:49:58.440 observations with inferences. 01:49:58.440 --> 01:50:00.893 So it's just more about the scientific process. 01:50:02.390 --> 01:50:04.440 I don't know if Dr. Bell-Metereau, 01:50:04.440 --> 01:50:06.754 you have anything else to add. 01:50:06.754 --> 01:50:09.232 I think that that states it well. 01:50:09.232 --> 01:50:12.290 And it also gives a one more definition 01:50:12.290 --> 01:50:15.380 that is mentioned actually. 01:50:15.380 --> 01:50:18.170 These words are mentioned in the rest of the document. 01:50:18.170 --> 01:50:21.640 And so I think it lays out definitions 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:26.563 a little bit more clearly of those essential practices. 01:50:30.120 --> 01:50:31.770 All right, members. 01:50:31.770 --> 01:50:32.897 Any other discussion on this item? 01:50:34.310 --> 01:50:36.930 So I would ask all those in favor of Mr. Hickman's amendment 01:50:36.930 --> 01:50:38.773 to show by raising your hand. 01:50:44.030 --> 01:50:45.780 Ms. Davis, is your hand up or down? 01:50:49.796 --> 01:50:53.280 11, 12. 01:50:53.280 --> 01:50:54.113 Please lower your hands. 01:50:54.113 --> 01:50:55.820 All those opposed by the same sign. 01:50:58.380 --> 01:51:01.070 We've got 12 in favor and two against. 01:51:01.070 --> 01:51:02.970 So the motion carries. 01:51:02.970 --> 01:51:03.870 Mr. Hickman. 01:51:03.870 --> 01:51:04.703 If I could comment, 01:51:04.703 --> 01:51:05.940 it's really Dr. Bell-Metereau. 01:51:05.940 --> 01:51:09.190 I just picked it up off the trash and threw it back in. 01:51:12.416 --> 01:51:14.566 (laughs) Thank you, Will. 01:51:15.990 --> 01:51:18.050 Any other amendments? 01:51:18.050 --> 01:51:19.000 I have a comment. 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:22.103 So we just did, this is just K five, right? 01:51:29.420 --> 01:51:33.523 Any other amendments for grades K through eight? 01:51:34.410 --> 01:51:35.243 Ms. Perez. 01:51:38.160 --> 01:51:40.570 I do have one for grade six 01:51:40.570 --> 01:51:44.903 and I am sending it over to our parliamentarian now. 01:51:57.930 --> 01:51:59.663 Is it long or short? 01:51:59.663 --> 01:52:02.277 Something you can speak to or do you need? 01:52:02.277 --> 01:52:03.133 You can read it, or? 01:52:03.133 --> 01:52:04.596 I can read it, yes. 01:52:04.596 --> 01:52:05.459 Go ahead, (indistinct). 01:52:05.459 --> 01:52:08.913 it is grade six, 6C. 01:52:24.380 --> 01:52:25.503 If you would. 01:52:32.840 --> 01:52:33.840 Thank you. 01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:38.840 If we could strike, "classify and replace" with "identify." 01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:48.087 Elements on the periodic table, as metals, nonmetals, 01:52:48.087 --> 01:52:53.087 strike "and" after metalloids, comma, 01:52:55.050 --> 01:52:57.573 and rare earth elements based on, 01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.250 their physical properties. 01:53:07.250 --> 01:53:09.997 Add "and uses." 01:53:15.070 --> 01:53:17.073 Scratching everything in yellow. 01:53:21.950 --> 01:53:24.640 The rationale for this as it maintains rare earth elements. 01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:25.473 Oh, I'm sorry. 01:53:25.473 --> 01:53:26.306 Thank you. 01:53:26.306 --> 01:53:27.440 We have a second? 01:53:27.440 --> 01:53:28.803 We have a motion and a second. 01:53:28.803 --> 01:53:29.779 Go ahead. Thank you. 01:53:29.779 --> 01:53:34.030 It maintains rare earth elements and somewhat reduces 01:53:34.030 --> 01:53:38.210 the estimated week of instructional time, 01:53:38.210 --> 01:53:41.350 but I believe it gets you to where you want to go, 01:53:41.350 --> 01:53:42.560 but no, it doesn't. 01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:43.530 Okay, fantastic. 01:53:43.530 --> 01:53:45.773 We'll all be less than happy once again. 01:53:47.330 --> 01:53:49.600 Ms. Hardy, would you like to speak to this? 01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:52.960 I like the term of modern life 01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:55.470 simply because rare earth elements 01:53:55.470 --> 01:54:00.050 have not been emphasized in the past because people 01:54:00.050 --> 01:54:03.460 didn't realize how significant they were and they become, 01:54:03.460 --> 01:54:06.540 if you talk about the electric car, the battery, 01:54:06.540 --> 01:54:08.600 all the stuff, the chips, all that stuff, 01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:10.720 that's what's made rare earth minerals 01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:12.500 have their place in the sun. 01:54:12.500 --> 01:54:14.440 And so I just liked the word modern life. 01:54:14.440 --> 01:54:16.440 You could say everything you've said, 01:54:16.440 --> 01:54:18.843 but I liked the word modern life in there. 01:54:22.220 --> 01:54:26.210 Ms. Kay, I misspoke where I added and uses. 01:54:26.210 --> 01:54:31.210 I meant to say and importance to modern life. 01:54:33.300 --> 01:54:34.600 Thank you. 01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.483 Thank you for catching my error. 01:54:41.910 --> 01:54:43.993 Any other discussion? 01:54:44.910 --> 01:54:47.710 Now that we fixed the typographical error on the screen. 01:54:49.700 --> 01:54:51.270 Any other discussion? 01:54:51.270 --> 01:54:52.420 Is there any objection? 01:54:53.890 --> 01:54:55.453 Hearing none, the motion carries. 01:54:56.586 --> 01:54:58.624 Is there any other amendments? 01:54:58.624 --> 01:54:59.457 Ms. Little. 01:55:00.467 --> 01:55:03.120 I think I wanna go back to what we did 01:55:03.120 --> 01:55:05.440 on the introduction on the K five. 01:55:05.440 --> 01:55:07.670 If vertical alignment is a concern, 01:55:07.670 --> 01:55:10.030 then I think we need to add that same language 01:55:10.030 --> 01:55:12.610 to the introduction of six, eight. 01:55:12.610 --> 01:55:15.470 So I moved that we take the language 01:55:15.470 --> 01:55:17.240 for the introduction from K five 01:55:17.240 --> 01:55:20.964 and also add it to the introduction of six, eight. 01:55:20.964 --> 01:55:22.381 Second. 01:55:23.535 --> 01:55:26.913 A motion and two seconds. 01:55:26.913 --> 01:55:30.007 One more emphatic than the other. 01:55:30.007 --> 01:55:30.840 I have a question. 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:32.830 I mean, I think if we have a lack of alignment, 01:55:32.830 --> 01:55:35.030 you have the same lack of alignment. 01:55:35.030 --> 01:55:36.400 It's just whether it lacks gonna be K five 01:55:36.400 --> 01:55:37.500 and then sixth for high school 01:55:37.500 --> 01:55:40.220 or whether it's K through eight and then high school. 01:55:40.220 --> 01:55:43.360 So I don't know if it really solves the problem 01:55:43.360 --> 01:55:47.073 or that not the problem solves the concern, but. 01:55:47.960 --> 01:55:50.480 Well, it may not solve the concern 01:55:50.480 --> 01:55:53.330 with high school, but at least we've got K eight aligned. 01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:55.563 That's my thinking. 01:56:00.290 --> 01:56:02.470 Okay, we did get, I know we got seconds. 01:56:02.470 --> 01:56:04.370 I don't want to that one again. 01:56:04.370 --> 01:56:06.703 So any further discussion on this one? 01:56:08.220 --> 01:56:09.053 All right. 01:56:09.053 --> 01:56:11.900 All those in favor of changing the introductions now 01:56:11.900 --> 01:56:14.803 in six through eight show by raising your hand. 01:56:20.240 --> 01:56:21.822 12. 01:56:21.822 --> 01:56:22.655 Lower your hands, please. 01:56:22.655 --> 01:56:23.673 All those opposed by the same sign. 01:56:25.050 --> 01:56:27.710 12 in favor and zero against, the motion carries. 01:56:27.710 --> 01:56:30.333 Is there any other amendments? 01:56:33.150 --> 01:56:34.120 All right. 01:56:34.120 --> 01:56:35.733 Seeing and hearing none. 01:56:37.032 --> 01:56:38.690 And hearing no further debate on the motion 01:56:38.690 --> 01:56:41.100 that the Committee of the Full Board recommend 01:56:41.100 --> 01:56:42.920 to the State Board of Education that they approve 01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:45.052 for second reading and final adoption 01:56:45.052 --> 01:56:46.602 of new 19 TAC, Chapter 112, 01:56:46.602 --> 01:56:48.937 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science 01:56:48.937 --> 01:56:50.345 Subchapter A, elementary, 112.1, implementation 01:56:50.345 --> 01:56:52.480 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, 01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:54.970 elementary, adopted 2021. 01:56:54.970 --> 01:56:57.300 112.2 science kindergarten adopted 2021. 01:56:57.300 --> 01:56:59.750 112.3 grade one, adopted 2021. 01:56:59.750 --> 01:57:03.280 112.4 science grade two adopted 2021. 01:57:03.280 --> 01:57:07.950 112.5, science grade three adopted 2021. 01:57:07.950 --> 01:57:10.670 112.6 science grade four adopted 2021. 01:57:10.670 --> 01:57:14.980 And 112.7 science grade five adopted 2021 01:57:14.980 --> 01:57:17.200 and subject to be middle school. 01:57:17.200 --> 01:57:19.020 112.25 implementation 01:57:19.020 --> 01:57:20.180 of Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 01:57:20.180 --> 01:57:22.343 for Science middle school adopted 2021. 01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:25.507 112.26, grade six adopted 2021. 01:57:25.507 --> 01:57:29.757 112.27 science grade seven adopted 2021 01:57:29.757 --> 01:57:32.483 and 112.28 science grade eight adopted 2021. 01:57:33.650 --> 01:57:36.110 In making an affirmative action that the media adoption 01:57:36.110 --> 01:57:40.353 of the proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 112. 01:57:41.719 --> 01:57:43.579 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, 01:57:43.579 --> 01:57:45.213 Subchapter eight elementary 112.1. 01:57:45.213 --> 01:57:47.388 Implementation of Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 01:57:47.388 --> 01:57:49.380 for Science elementary adopted 2021. 01:57:49.380 --> 01:57:51.940 112.2 science kindergarten adopted 2021. 01:57:51.940 --> 01:57:54.592 112.3 science grade one adopted 2021. 01:57:54.592 --> 01:57:56.420 112.4, science grade two adopted 2021. 01:57:56.420 --> 01:57:58.770 112.5 science grade three adopted 2021. 01:57:58.770 --> 01:58:00.750 112.6 science grade four adopted 2021. 01:58:00.750 --> 01:58:03.240 112.7 science grade five adopted 2021. 01:58:03.240 --> 01:58:04.410 Subject for being middle school. 01:58:04.410 --> 01:58:05.910 112.25 implementation 01:58:05.910 --> 01:58:07.720 of Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:09.907 for Science middle school adopted 2021. 01:58:09.907 --> 01:58:12.140 112.26 science grade six adopted 2021. 01:58:12.140 --> 01:58:16.312 112.27, science grade seven adopted 2021. 01:58:16.312 --> 01:58:19.360 And 112.28 science grade eight adopted 2021. 01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:21.120 Is necessary in childhood effective date 01:58:21.120 --> 01:58:24.643 20 days after filing as adopted in the Texas Register. 01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:27.220 You get that? 01:58:27.220 --> 01:58:28.053 All right. 01:58:28.053 --> 01:58:29.476 I hope you did. 01:58:29.476 --> 01:58:32.983 I would ask all those in favor to please raise your hand. 01:58:38.780 --> 01:58:40.260 Lower your hands, please. 01:58:40.260 --> 01:58:42.540 All those opposed by same sign. 01:58:42.540 --> 01:58:44.300 There is 14 in favor, zero against. 01:58:44.300 --> 01:58:47.140 So there is 2/3 in favor in their recommendation 01:58:47.140 --> 01:58:50.290 will be made to the State Board of Education. 01:58:50.290 --> 01:58:52.220 Mr. Chairman. Mr. Maynard. 01:58:52.220 --> 01:58:53.747 So, okay. 01:58:53.747 --> 01:58:54.900 What's the procedure moving forward on this? 01:58:54.900 --> 01:58:55.733 So the procedures, 01:58:55.733 --> 01:58:59.510 I understand that the earliest that could be accommodated 01:58:59.510 --> 01:59:01.140 through the Texas Open Meetings Act 01:59:01.140 --> 01:59:04.890 and the posting deadlines was December 1st. 01:59:04.890 --> 01:59:06.150 So at that point in time, 01:59:06.150 --> 01:59:10.510 we can convene a meeting that may take place virtually 01:59:10.510 --> 01:59:13.930 as long as the presiding officer's in a public location. 01:59:13.930 --> 01:59:16.798 So I will work to make sure that we have, 01:59:16.798 --> 01:59:17.850 the presiding officer does not have to be me. 01:59:17.850 --> 01:59:19.060 It could be someone else. 01:59:19.060 --> 01:59:21.313 Mr. Maynard, could be you theoretically. 01:59:22.153 --> 01:59:23.310 (laughter) 01:59:23.310 --> 01:59:26.233 And yeah, this is it. 01:59:27.140 --> 01:59:28.920 And I'll show you where I'll hide the candy 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:29.810 in my desk over here. 01:59:29.810 --> 01:59:32.180 So at that point in time, 01:59:32.180 --> 01:59:34.530 we can convene a meeting in which members 01:59:34.530 --> 01:59:36.800 could participate virtually. 01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:39.050 Members my age on the board or older, 01:59:39.050 --> 01:59:42.160 remember we did this not too long ago in ELR? 01:59:42.160 --> 01:59:44.510 Where we, I think just got to the end and staff 01:59:44.510 --> 01:59:46.810 need a little more time for some edits. 01:59:46.810 --> 01:59:50.200 And we actually had to come back at that point in time 01:59:51.120 --> 01:59:54.390 under what we have now for virtual meetings, 01:59:54.390 --> 01:59:56.340 we don't one person has to come back, 01:59:56.340 --> 01:59:57.740 but not the whole board. 01:59:57.740 --> 02:00:02.733 So probably December 1st, if there's not any conflicts. 02:00:03.790 --> 02:00:05.117 At that point in time, 02:00:05.117 --> 02:00:08.740 I think all the amendments were made that need to be made. 02:00:08.740 --> 02:00:12.750 This will sit in storage until that date. 02:00:12.750 --> 02:00:17.750 And then we will convene to do our committee, 02:00:17.750 --> 02:00:19.510 to do our State Board of Education vote 02:00:19.510 --> 02:00:21.950 on second reading and final adoption. 02:00:21.950 --> 02:00:22.783 Is that clear? 02:00:24.100 --> 02:00:25.200 Any questions on that? 02:00:26.280 --> 02:00:27.113 Okay. 02:00:28.060 --> 02:00:28.893 All right. 02:00:28.893 --> 02:00:30.100 So if there is no further business to come 02:00:30.100 --> 02:00:31.820 before the Committee of the Full Board, 02:00:31.820 --> 02:00:33.600 we are adjourned as a Committee of the Full Board 02:00:33.600 --> 02:00:36.300 and we will reconvene as the State Board of Education. 02:00:37.620 --> 02:00:40.230 So as we reconvene as a State Board of Education, 02:00:40.230 --> 02:00:42.900 we will move to the approval of the Consent Agenda. 02:00:42.900 --> 02:00:45.020 So the next business in order is the approval 02:00:45.020 --> 02:00:46.780 of the Consent Agenda. 02:00:46.780 --> 02:00:48.400 Oh, we do have testifiers. 02:00:48.400 --> 02:00:49.467 I always missed that. 02:00:49.467 --> 02:00:51.600 All right, Steph. 02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:53.403 Would you call the testifiers? 02:01:14.400 --> 02:01:17.500 Deborah Simmons, Kara bell, 02:01:17.500 --> 02:01:20.303 Sophia Lopez, Poly Plemmons. 02:01:29.650 --> 02:01:30.563 Deborah Simmons. 02:01:33.300 --> 02:01:35.500 Hello, my name is Deborah Simmons. 02:01:35.500 --> 02:01:37.480 I spent 10 years in the computer industry 02:01:37.480 --> 02:01:39.060 before starting a family. 02:01:39.060 --> 02:01:41.690 My work included technical support and systems engineer 02:01:41.690 --> 02:01:43.190 for IBM Unix products, 02:01:43.190 --> 02:01:45.490 sales and consulting for Anderson Consulting 02:01:45.490 --> 02:01:48.410 and manufacturing development engineer for Hewlett-Packard. 02:01:48.410 --> 02:01:50.780 My enterprise systems network technologies 02:01:50.780 --> 02:01:53.420 and supply chain skills became useful 02:01:53.420 --> 02:01:56.860 when I learned about the pornographic and obscene content 02:01:56.860 --> 02:01:59.300 in school online resources. 02:01:59.300 --> 02:02:02.800 This content includes graphic images, explicit texts, 02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:05.290 and hot links to pornographic materials. 02:02:05.290 --> 02:02:06.680 The majority of skills have, 02:02:06.680 --> 02:02:10.060 or schools have network web content filters 02:02:10.060 --> 02:02:13.550 for inappropriate searches and websites in compliance 02:02:13.550 --> 02:02:18.030 with Children's Internet Protection Act also known as CIPA. 02:02:18.030 --> 02:02:21.670 However, once students pass through a school network filter 02:02:21.670 --> 02:02:24.110 by accessing an allowed resource, 02:02:24.110 --> 02:02:26.120 the school network filter stops filtering 02:02:26.120 --> 02:02:29.930 for inappropriate content embedded in that resource. 02:02:29.930 --> 02:02:34.260 A year ago, the SBOE passed the 87th legislature priorities 02:02:34.260 --> 02:02:38.220 including require vendors for K through 12 Texas schools 02:02:38.220 --> 02:02:40.550 and libraries to filter inappropriate content 02:02:40.550 --> 02:02:43.450 such as obscene and pornographic images for minors. 02:02:43.450 --> 02:02:45.840 Representative Swanson filed the legislation 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.980 and appropriations writers to require CIPA compliance 02:02:48.980 --> 02:02:51.090 for text quest online resources 02:02:51.090 --> 02:02:54.770 provided through the ESC20 and T slack. 02:02:54.770 --> 02:02:57.750 The legislature passed through other appropriations writer 02:02:57.750 --> 02:02:59.970 to require the SBOE to ensure 02:02:59.970 --> 02:03:01.450 that any instructional materials 02:03:01.450 --> 02:03:04.130 and technology purchased using funds dispersed 02:03:04.130 --> 02:03:06.820 from the state instructional materials and technology fund, 02:03:06.820 --> 02:03:08.650 meet the requirements for CIPA. 02:03:08.650 --> 02:03:11.943 I'm here to follow up on that and to answer any questions. 02:03:16.550 --> 02:03:17.550 Kara bell. 02:03:33.740 --> 02:03:36.490 Do we have any other testifiers? 02:03:36.490 --> 02:03:37.533 Is Kara bell here? 02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:42.283 Sophia Lopez. 02:03:54.430 --> 02:03:55.610 Hello, can you hear me? 02:03:55.610 --> 02:03:57.490 Yes. Okay, great, thank you. 02:03:57.490 --> 02:03:58.323 Good morning. 02:03:58.323 --> 02:03:59.350 My name is Sophia Lopez. 02:03:59.350 --> 02:04:01.540 I was born and raised here in Texas. 02:04:01.540 --> 02:04:05.050 And I'm a proud graduate of Texas public schools. 02:04:05.050 --> 02:04:08.599 I drove here today to speak to you all on behalf 02:04:08.599 --> 02:04:10.850 of Greenbrook tenants, living in Brooklyn, New York. 02:04:10.850 --> 02:04:13.560 And I'm here to tell the permanent school fund to divest 02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:16.580 from NWN and Greenbrook partners. 02:04:16.580 --> 02:04:19.860 I recently testified at a US Senate committee hearing 02:04:19.860 --> 02:04:22.310 on private equity investments in housing, 02:04:22.310 --> 02:04:24.610 and every single thing I've heard about Greenbrook 02:04:24.610 --> 02:04:26.570 fits the classic profile. 02:04:26.570 --> 02:04:28.590 Huge rent increases, evictions 02:04:28.590 --> 02:04:31.320 and a devastating lack of maintenance. 02:04:31.320 --> 02:04:34.471 This isn't how we should fund Texas schools. 02:04:34.471 --> 02:04:35.870 Now now, not ever. 02:04:35.870 --> 02:04:38.630 Since 2019, Greenbrook partners has purchased 02:04:38.630 --> 02:04:41.020 at least 100 properties in Brooklyn in part 02:04:41.020 --> 02:04:44.230 through an investment from the Texas Permanent School Fund. 02:04:44.230 --> 02:04:46.800 And the vast majority were purchased after COVID struck 02:04:46.800 --> 02:04:48.970 in March of 2020. 02:04:48.970 --> 02:04:51.450 Greenbrook model is buying up multifamily housing 02:04:51.450 --> 02:04:54.520 and immediately sending non-renewal letters to vacate 02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:57.420 during a pandemic despite New York state's 02:04:57.420 --> 02:05:00.170 eviction moratorium in an attempt to push out 02:05:00.170 --> 02:05:02.550 any and all tenants they feel they can, 02:05:02.550 --> 02:05:05.040 whether illegally or legally. 02:05:05.040 --> 02:05:07.050 Greenbrook does not do basic fact finding 02:05:07.050 --> 02:05:10.080 to determine which tenants are rent stabilized 02:05:10.080 --> 02:05:11.560 and counts on struggling and families, 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:14.540 not having the resources to take Greenbrook to court, 02:05:14.540 --> 02:05:17.830 to fight an eviction Even if they have a right to stay. 02:05:17.830 --> 02:05:20.000 Their lack of due diligence leaves Greenbrook 02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:22.400 open to costly lawsuits from tenants 02:05:22.400 --> 02:05:24.120 and the City of New York. 02:05:24.120 --> 02:05:25.770 Greenbrook is currently embroiled 02:05:25.770 --> 02:05:28.750 in multiple of these lawsuits as we speak. 02:05:28.750 --> 02:05:31.330 For the tenants that don't leave, Greenbrook raises rent 02:05:31.330 --> 02:05:35.030 by anywhere from 50% to 100% percent. 02:05:35.030 --> 02:05:39.240 Can you imagine paying an additional $1,300 a month 02:05:39.240 --> 02:05:42.283 for you housing costs, but your building only gets worse? 02:05:43.850 --> 02:05:46.360 I'm here just to ask you to reconsider your investment 02:05:46.360 --> 02:05:48.030 with NWN and Greenbrook partners, 02:05:48.030 --> 02:05:49.980 and think of the people who are being thrown 02:05:49.980 --> 02:05:51.890 out of their homes with your support. 02:05:51.890 --> 02:05:52.723 Thank you. 02:05:56.610 --> 02:05:57.860 Holly Plemmons. 02:06:03.040 --> 02:06:04.240 I'm Holly Plemmons. 02:06:04.240 --> 02:06:06.830 Mother of three children in Fort Worth ISD. 02:06:06.830 --> 02:06:10.110 I'm here in Austin today to share with you a practice 02:06:10.110 --> 02:06:12.840 that my children have been forced to participate in 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.470 without my knowledge or consent. 02:06:15.470 --> 02:06:19.050 Are you aware that Fort Worth ISD is giving surveys 02:06:19.050 --> 02:06:22.810 most recently, an SEL survey run on the Panorama app 02:06:22.810 --> 02:06:25.770 to students without the parents' consent? 02:06:25.770 --> 02:06:27.470 Dr. Stacy Burrell, 02:06:27.470 --> 02:06:29.590 who is the director of Fort Worth ISD's 02:06:29.590 --> 02:06:31.950 Grant Compliance and Monitoring Department 02:06:31.950 --> 02:06:35.580 informed me that Fort worth ISD does not agree with me 02:06:35.580 --> 02:06:38.550 that this is a clear violation of PPRA. 02:06:38.550 --> 02:06:41.610 Because parents gave consent to the surveys 02:06:41.610 --> 02:06:43.420 in the technology agreement. 02:06:43.420 --> 02:06:46.310 If we don't consent to the technology agreement, 02:06:46.310 --> 02:06:48.710 then our children can't use technology. 02:06:48.710 --> 02:06:49.828 And for our older kids, 02:06:49.828 --> 02:06:53.160 that's where all of their textbooks and work are. 02:06:53.160 --> 02:06:55.080 To deny the technology agreement 02:06:55.080 --> 02:06:58.640 would be a complete nightmare for our teachers and students. 02:06:58.640 --> 02:07:00.880 We are forced to opt in to these surveys 02:07:02.166 --> 02:07:05.470 if we want our children to attend and participate 02:07:05.470 --> 02:07:07.264 in public schools. 02:07:07.264 --> 02:07:08.870 Our parental rights and the rights of our children 02:07:08.870 --> 02:07:10.450 are being trampled. 02:07:10.450 --> 02:07:12.450 They are collecting data on our children 02:07:13.469 --> 02:07:14.302 and are sharing this data with known 02:07:14.302 --> 02:07:18.560 CRT-based curriculum developers, and who knows who else? 02:07:18.560 --> 02:07:21.060 While I would prefer the surveys to completely stop, 02:07:21.060 --> 02:07:22.530 I can compromise. 02:07:22.530 --> 02:07:25.680 Today, I urge you to make a policy that requires schools 02:07:25.680 --> 02:07:28.000 to make all surveys opt in. 02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:29.610 Let parents have a choice. 02:07:29.610 --> 02:07:32.410 Stop pushing parents out of the education process 02:07:32.410 --> 02:07:33.330 of their children. 02:07:33.330 --> 02:07:34.530 Thank you for your time. 02:07:36.690 --> 02:07:39.210 Do we have any other testifiers? 02:07:40.350 --> 02:07:41.393 Mary Lowe. 02:07:43.240 --> 02:07:45.003 Bella Munoz Hopkins, 02:07:55.650 --> 02:07:56.483 Mary Lowe. 02:07:57.680 --> 02:08:01.630 When the voice of those you're spending money with 02:08:01.630 --> 02:08:04.140 is more important than the families 02:08:04.140 --> 02:08:06.823 and taxpayers you serve, you're corrupt. 02:08:07.776 --> 02:08:08.701 Galway Institute 02:08:08.701 --> 02:08:12.684 says schools are keeping parents in the dark. 02:08:12.684 --> 02:08:15.424 Your approval of any of these IMs 02:08:15.424 --> 02:08:17.483 puts parents at a disadvantage because-- 02:08:17.483 --> 02:08:19.108 Ma'am, hold on a second. 02:08:19.108 --> 02:08:21.790 We're only posted on Friday to speak to items 02:08:21.790 --> 02:08:23.887 that were not previously on the agenda. 02:08:23.887 --> 02:08:27.410 So the only option you have today is to talk about any item 02:08:27.410 --> 02:08:29.790 that was not previously on the agenda this week 02:08:29.790 --> 02:08:31.770 if we had time for other testimony for that. 02:08:31.770 --> 02:08:33.180 So this is only a time. 02:08:33.180 --> 02:08:36.450 The bulk of my testimony is not about the IMs today. 02:08:36.450 --> 02:08:38.203 It's IMs in general. 02:08:38.203 --> 02:08:40.015 All of your testimony, 02:08:40.015 --> 02:08:42.730 your testimony cannot focus on the instruction materials 02:08:42.730 --> 02:08:43.963 that are before us, has been before us. 02:08:46.828 --> 02:08:49.277 Please let me remind you that PPRA 02:08:51.380 --> 02:08:54.700 is to protect the government and government education 02:08:54.700 --> 02:08:57.850 from taking surveys, that concern one or more 02:08:57.850 --> 02:09:00.610 of the following eight protected areas. 02:09:00.610 --> 02:09:03.290 Political affiliations or beliefs of the student, 02:09:03.290 --> 02:09:05.110 or the student's parent. 02:09:05.110 --> 02:09:07.980 Mental or psychological problems of the student 02:09:07.980 --> 02:09:09.150 or the student's family. 02:09:09.150 --> 02:09:11.060 Sex behavior or attitudes, 02:09:11.060 --> 02:09:15.610 illegal antisocial self-incriminating or demeaning behavior, 02:09:15.610 --> 02:09:17.760 critical appraisals of other individuals 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:21.130 with whom respondents have close family relationships. 02:09:21.130 --> 02:09:23.370 Legally recognized, privileged, 02:09:23.370 --> 02:09:26.520 or analogous relationships such as those of lawyers, 02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:27.910 physicians, and ministers. 02:09:27.910 --> 02:09:29.890 Religious practices, affiliations 02:09:29.890 --> 02:09:32.800 or beliefs of the student or student's parent. 02:09:32.800 --> 02:09:36.690 Income or other required by law to determine eligibility 02:09:36.690 --> 02:09:38.820 for participation in a program 02:09:38.820 --> 02:09:43.680 or for receiving financial assistance under such program. 02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:47.290 I would like to hope that this board would work 02:09:47.290 --> 02:09:50.580 with families and parents to protect their rights. 02:09:50.580 --> 02:09:53.020 But today, we do not see that that's the case. 02:09:53.020 --> 02:09:56.630 We are currently preparing to ask for an opinion 02:09:56.630 --> 02:09:59.330 from Ken Paxton's office. 02:09:59.330 --> 02:10:01.530 And we will also bring legal suit against you 02:10:01.530 --> 02:10:04.010 if you do not begin to respect parents' rights. 02:10:04.010 --> 02:10:04.843 Thank you. 02:10:07.770 --> 02:10:09.270 Carla Munoz Hopkins. 02:10:11.090 --> 02:10:14.060 Good morning, everyone, or good afternoon. 02:10:14.060 --> 02:10:18.203 The 87th Texas legislature amended education code 1.004 02:10:19.750 --> 02:10:22.890 on the display of the national motto and public schools 02:10:22.890 --> 02:10:25.120 and institutes of higher education. 02:10:25.120 --> 02:10:29.190 The new law reads a public elementary or secondary school 02:10:29.190 --> 02:10:32.910 or an institution of higher education must display 02:10:32.910 --> 02:10:35.650 in a conspicuous place in each building 02:10:35.650 --> 02:10:37.510 of the school or institution, 02:10:37.510 --> 02:10:39.610 a durable poster or fringed copy 02:10:39.610 --> 02:10:43.520 of the United States national motto, In God We Trust. 02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:46.030 So I have some awesome news. 02:10:46.030 --> 02:10:49.700 We will have the first school district display 02:10:49.700 --> 02:10:53.530 the national motto at Leander ISD, 02:10:53.530 --> 02:10:56.420 thanks to the National Motto Project. 02:10:56.420 --> 02:11:01.420 And we'd love for other school districts to look up 02:11:02.040 --> 02:11:07.020 the US national motto online and connect with me 02:11:07.020 --> 02:11:12.020 or contacts on the website to bring back 02:11:12.220 --> 02:11:17.220 our patriotism and what America stands for. 02:11:18.810 --> 02:11:21.990 I'm very saddened to hear from one of the parents 02:11:21.990 --> 02:11:23.173 that just testify. 02:11:25.470 --> 02:11:27.110 Her children's schools are not saying 02:11:27.110 --> 02:11:29.190 the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. 02:11:29.190 --> 02:11:30.970 And in Leander ISD, 02:11:30.970 --> 02:11:33.630 we have a substitute teacher that just told me 02:11:33.630 --> 02:11:35.730 Tuesday evening that the children 02:11:35.730 --> 02:11:37.940 are saying the pledges to a bracket. 02:11:37.940 --> 02:11:39.590 The flags have been removed. 02:11:39.590 --> 02:11:42.490 Both the Texas and the American flag. 02:11:42.490 --> 02:11:44.600 The other thing that I'd like to talk to you about 02:11:44.600 --> 02:11:48.570 is please aid the Governor in his investigation 02:11:48.570 --> 02:11:51.720 of Leander ISD and the pornographic materials. 02:11:51.720 --> 02:11:55.680 And most of all, the hate crimes that I have come to you all 02:11:55.680 --> 02:12:00.680 and provided evidence and materials to Counsel Maska. 02:12:00.750 --> 02:12:05.040 And to all of you, please aid in those investigations. 02:12:05.040 --> 02:12:08.570 This is real life and it's affecting not just the families 02:12:08.570 --> 02:12:11.713 of Leander ISD, but all throughout the state. 02:12:12.990 --> 02:12:13.823 Thank you. 02:12:19.840 --> 02:12:22.503 We also have three late registrations. 02:12:23.495 --> 02:12:27.053 Members, is there objection to taking late registration? 02:12:28.800 --> 02:12:29.640 Hearing none. 02:12:31.040 --> 02:12:35.183 Christina Rosales, Katie Goldstein, Paul Gotea, 02:12:45.230 --> 02:12:46.130 Christina Rosales. 02:12:49.540 --> 02:12:50.833 Katie Goldstein. 02:12:52.710 --> 02:12:53.543 Paul Gotea. 02:13:14.510 --> 02:13:18.323 Hi, my name is Paul GoTEA and I live in Leander ISD. 02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:22.700 Have any of you heard of Hope Alliance? 02:13:22.700 --> 02:13:26.290 It's a shelter for abused women and children. 02:13:26.290 --> 02:13:31.290 And I asked this just last night to our ISD board members, 02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:36.100 and they don't know who they are. 02:13:36.100 --> 02:13:39.370 Which is surprising because they know who they are. 02:13:39.370 --> 02:13:41.480 And in fact, they have called several times 02:13:41.480 --> 02:13:46.010 about LISD's students who are there trying to help, 02:13:46.010 --> 02:13:48.533 and they have not returned one phone call. 02:13:49.690 --> 02:13:52.360 So our problem is a lack of communication 02:13:52.360 --> 02:13:56.010 between Leander and the people that they serve. 02:13:56.010 --> 02:13:59.793 Because when I was talking with the director for that group, 02:14:01.250 --> 02:14:05.410 Hope Alliance, he said they get 25 to 30 women and children 02:14:05.410 --> 02:14:09.073 from the LISD area every month. 02:14:09.950 --> 02:14:14.490 So much so, they decided to build a shelter up near LISD. 02:14:14.490 --> 02:14:16.080 And for some strange reason, 02:14:16.080 --> 02:14:19.633 the city wouldn't give them a permit for almost a year. 02:14:26.920 --> 02:14:31.480 When people are in trouble, to have your school district 02:14:31.480 --> 02:14:36.480 not help you with, the director said it was highly unusual 02:14:38.888 --> 02:14:40.480 that when they call a district 02:14:40.480 --> 02:14:41.750 'cause they wanna help the kids 02:14:41.750 --> 02:14:45.340 that they left off on Chapter five, they get to Chapter six. 02:14:45.340 --> 02:14:46.560 They're very helpful. 02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:48.920 Leander has not been. 02:14:48.920 --> 02:14:52.650 And this has been a systemic loss of communication 02:14:52.650 --> 02:14:54.810 and control that we have seen over and over again, 02:14:54.810 --> 02:14:58.300 as Perla has talked about with the books 02:14:58.300 --> 02:14:59.370 that we are talking about. 02:14:59.370 --> 02:15:03.750 And those people at Hope Alliance, I've noticed it, 02:15:03.750 --> 02:15:05.450 but they're kinda freaking out 02:15:05.450 --> 02:15:07.340 because of all this sexualization 02:15:07.340 --> 02:15:09.260 that's happening within the school district 02:15:09.260 --> 02:15:11.730 of people they are trying to help. 02:15:11.730 --> 02:15:14.530 And the interesting part was I said this last night 02:15:14.530 --> 02:15:15.610 at the school board meeting. 02:15:15.610 --> 02:15:20.380 Afterwards, I'm talking with other people and several women 02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:23.617 came up to me and said, "That same group helped me." 02:15:25.640 --> 02:15:26.473 I couldn't believe it. 02:15:26.473 --> 02:15:29.070 I was like, that's why I'm talking here. 02:15:29.070 --> 02:15:32.740 That's why I'm trying to help because this communication 02:15:32.740 --> 02:15:35.673 or lack thereof from Leander is shocking. 02:15:36.950 --> 02:15:38.087 Thank you. 02:15:39.533 --> 02:15:41.360 Any other testifiers? 02:15:41.360 --> 02:15:43.630 Members, at this point in time on public testimony 02:15:43.630 --> 02:15:45.630 on Friday, of course, we can't engage in discussion 02:15:45.630 --> 02:15:47.170 with the testifiers because we're not posting 02:15:47.170 --> 02:15:48.708 for these items. 02:15:48.708 --> 02:15:49.541 We can ask if there's any other 02:15:49.541 --> 02:15:51.380 further clarification questions. 02:15:51.380 --> 02:15:53.230 Is there any clarification questions? 02:15:54.310 --> 02:15:55.143 I'm seeing none. 02:15:55.143 --> 02:15:56.993 So thank you very much for being here today. 02:15:58.980 --> 02:16:03.080 So now we are on item number two approval of Consent Agenda. 02:16:03.080 --> 02:16:04.940 So the next business in order is the approval 02:16:04.940 --> 02:16:06.300 of the Consent Agenda. 02:16:06.300 --> 02:16:07.670 It's been distributed to each of you. 02:16:07.670 --> 02:16:10.880 Take a moment to review items on the Consent Agenda. 02:16:10.880 --> 02:16:12.550 With note that the committee on school initiatives 02:16:12.550 --> 02:16:14.330 took no action and item number 12 approval 02:16:14.330 --> 02:16:17.870 of the applicability of state statute 02:16:17.870 --> 02:16:19.480 to a special purpose school district. 02:16:19.480 --> 02:16:21.930 And that item is removed from the Consent Agenda. 02:16:27.690 --> 02:16:30.010 Members, are there any items to be removed 02:16:30.010 --> 02:16:32.560 from the Consent Agenda for separate consideration? 02:16:34.630 --> 02:16:35.463 Mr. Hickman. 02:16:36.690 --> 02:16:38.589 I have a clarification question 02:16:38.589 --> 02:16:39.422 and one for staff. 02:16:39.422 --> 02:16:41.633 On the private schools and the star testing, 02:16:42.597 --> 02:16:44.660 which or why would private schools utilize star testing? 02:16:44.660 --> 02:16:46.301 Is that common? 02:16:46.301 --> 02:16:48.480 Can you talk 10 seconds about that? 02:16:48.480 --> 02:16:49.380 Sure. 02:16:49.380 --> 02:16:54.320 So, private schools can choose to administer star 02:16:54.320 --> 02:16:55.558 to their students. 02:16:55.558 --> 02:16:58.644 I think that there are some schools 02:16:58.644 --> 02:17:02.330 that many private schools in Texas, I should say, 02:17:02.330 --> 02:17:04.270 teach the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, 02:17:04.270 --> 02:17:06.510 even though they're not required to. 02:17:06.510 --> 02:17:09.080 And so it is a logical test to administer, 02:17:09.080 --> 02:17:11.120 to determine their students' proficiency 02:17:11.120 --> 02:17:13.020 in these essential knowledge and skills. 02:17:13.020 --> 02:17:14.730 So it's something that is available to them 02:17:14.730 --> 02:17:18.380 that they can choose to use if they would like to. 02:17:18.380 --> 02:17:19.530 There's no requirement, 02:17:19.530 --> 02:17:22.443 but we do have some schools that do use that test. 02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:33.290 I believe that there were 2,558 tested, 02:17:33.290 --> 02:17:37.660 administered to private school students on that for 2021. 02:17:37.660 --> 02:17:40.010 But yeah, we've done that for many, many years. 02:17:49.132 --> 02:17:51.382 Yes, it's relatively small. 02:17:53.210 --> 02:17:55.020 Members, are there any items to be removed 02:17:55.020 --> 02:17:57.570 from the Consent Agenda for separate consideration? 02:17:58.650 --> 02:18:01.193 Hearing none, the Consent Agenda is adopted. 02:18:04.140 --> 02:18:06.510 This will get us to the Committee of the Full Board. 02:18:06.510 --> 02:18:07.610 Item number three is a report 02:18:07.610 --> 02:18:09.020 from the Commission of Education 02:18:09.020 --> 02:18:11.720 regarding instructional materials offered for adoption 02:18:11.720 --> 02:18:15.560 under proclamation 2022 to new agenda on page I-2. 02:18:15.560 --> 02:18:17.010 I'm gonna call on Ms. Little. 02:18:20.010 --> 02:18:21.990 Mr. Chair, the Committee of the Full Board 02:18:21.990 --> 02:18:25.110 recommends that the State Board of Education 02:18:25.110 --> 02:18:27.820 require that QuaverEd health education 02:18:27.820 --> 02:18:30.630 grades K through five and physical education 02:18:30.630 --> 02:18:32.440 grades K through five, 02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:36.550 make corrections listed in proclamation 2022. 02:18:36.550 --> 02:18:38.750 Report of required corrections, 02:18:38.750 --> 02:18:40.900 the report of new content 02:18:40.900 --> 02:18:43.910 and the report of editorial changes. 02:18:43.910 --> 02:18:46.612 Require that all instructional materials 02:18:46.612 --> 02:18:50.150 meet established manufacturing standards and specifications. 02:18:50.150 --> 02:18:53.460 Require that all electronic instructional materials comply 02:18:53.460 --> 02:18:58.237 with the web content accessibility guidelines level 2.1 AA 02:19:00.350 --> 02:19:02.080 and the technical standards required 02:19:02.080 --> 02:19:05.876 by the Federal rehabilitation Act, section 508. 02:19:05.876 --> 02:19:09.130 Approve changes and corrections submitted in response 02:19:09.130 --> 02:19:12.110 to written comments and public testimony, 02:19:12.110 --> 02:19:14.640 place instructional materials submitted for adoption 02:19:14.640 --> 02:19:19.210 on the adopted list as indicated on the proclamation 2022. 02:19:19.210 --> 02:19:22.343 List of instructional materials eligible for adoption. 02:19:25.100 --> 02:19:27.633 Members, we're now at any debate on item, 02:19:29.426 --> 02:19:32.610 I would point out that we received documentation in email 02:19:32.610 --> 02:19:35.470 and probably also in print also on some of the changes 02:19:35.470 --> 02:19:40.470 from QuaverEd that happened during the process this week. 02:19:40.910 --> 02:19:42.930 One on the data mining. 02:19:42.930 --> 02:19:45.610 They stated they are completely removing the health tracker 02:19:45.610 --> 02:19:46.780 and all related screens, 02:19:46.780 --> 02:19:49.990 including the emoji based check-ins that were discussed. 02:19:49.990 --> 02:19:52.110 This addresses concerns about data mining. 02:19:52.110 --> 02:19:55.850 Use of student information, emotional assessments. 02:19:55.850 --> 02:19:57.260 They stated they adhere to FERPA, 02:19:57.260 --> 02:20:00.830 federal and state regulation in regard to that is sharing. 02:20:00.830 --> 02:20:04.110 And the QuaverEd music curriculum has always adhered 02:20:04.110 --> 02:20:06.020 very stringent, Texas laws for student data 02:20:06.020 --> 02:20:07.640 for a number of years. 02:20:07.640 --> 02:20:09.260 That said, they are still removing 02:20:09.260 --> 02:20:11.190 that part of the resource. 02:20:11.190 --> 02:20:14.040 So they also have some information about what they removed 02:20:14.040 --> 02:20:16.960 about suicide and self-harm and some other notes 02:20:16.960 --> 02:20:18.623 that's in your documents. 02:20:19.800 --> 02:20:21.370 Mr. Hickman. 02:20:21.370 --> 02:20:23.710 I have a clarification question for staff 02:20:23.710 --> 02:20:25.833 based on recent testimony we just heard. 02:20:26.670 --> 02:20:31.000 One was the filtering content through a portal. 02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:34.487 Is that something that's in our current contract 02:20:34.487 --> 02:20:35.990 for proclamations? 02:20:35.990 --> 02:20:39.550 Or is that something we could add that any port, 02:20:39.550 --> 02:20:42.680 any access to the internet through a publisher's portal 02:20:42.680 --> 02:20:44.380 would have a filter applied to it? 02:20:51.350 --> 02:20:53.180 I'm not exactly sure I understand your question, 02:20:53.180 --> 02:20:55.390 but I believe that might apply more 02:20:55.390 --> 02:20:58.160 to the district's filter, 02:20:58.160 --> 02:21:01.160 security filters rather than filters 02:21:01.160 --> 02:21:03.640 in a publisher's content. 02:21:03.640 --> 02:21:06.880 My understanding of the testimony was that you bypass 02:21:06.880 --> 02:21:09.350 the school filter and you go to the publisher. 02:21:09.350 --> 02:21:12.190 And then once you're in the publisher's servers, 02:21:12.190 --> 02:21:15.750 you can access the internet without the district's filter. 02:21:15.750 --> 02:21:17.250 Is that something we could, 02:21:17.250 --> 02:21:18.150 it sounds like it's not 02:21:18.150 --> 02:21:20.290 in our current proclamation contract, 02:21:20.290 --> 02:21:21.410 but maybe it's something we could add 02:21:21.410 --> 02:21:22.730 to future proclamations. 02:21:22.730 --> 02:21:25.080 I'm finding a legal friend over here. 02:21:30.793 --> 02:21:31.970 I think that's something 02:21:31.970 --> 02:21:33.423 we can definitely look into. 02:21:34.600 --> 02:21:36.260 I think there, it may be, 02:21:36.260 --> 02:21:38.715 but I'd like to do the research first 02:21:38.715 --> 02:21:39.548 before giving you an answer. 02:21:40.930 --> 02:21:42.890 Second question while you're there. 02:21:42.890 --> 02:21:46.400 The other was another testifier about opting into surveys. 02:21:46.400 --> 02:21:47.830 Is that something we could add? 02:21:47.830 --> 02:21:50.120 It sounds like it's not in our current contract. 02:21:50.120 --> 02:21:52.740 Is that something we could add as well? 02:21:52.740 --> 02:21:54.840 It's something I could definitely look into. 02:21:54.840 --> 02:21:55.997 Okay, thank you 02:22:00.787 --> 02:22:03.667 Members, any further debate on this item? 02:22:03.667 --> 02:22:06.167 Any other questions for staff or any other debate? 02:22:08.040 --> 02:22:11.183 We're ready to take the vote. 02:22:13.614 --> 02:22:16.690 This is Melton-Malone and then Dr. Johnson. 02:22:16.690 --> 02:22:17.950 Just a point of clarification. 02:22:17.950 --> 02:22:22.610 So this is whether or not to add them to the approved list. 02:22:22.610 --> 02:22:24.720 Yes and for clarification, this is just Quaver. 02:22:24.720 --> 02:22:27.190 In the reason that QuaverEd before us right now, 02:22:27.190 --> 02:22:29.230 it was the only one of the four 02:22:29.230 --> 02:22:32.600 that were approved by the Committee of the Full Board. 02:22:32.600 --> 02:22:37.030 There is an opportunity that if there was one publisher 02:22:37.030 --> 02:22:40.610 or two or three that did not receive 02:22:40.610 --> 02:22:41.990 a recommendation from the full board, 02:22:41.990 --> 02:22:43.330 there could be a second motion, 02:22:43.330 --> 02:22:45.250 a different motion to bring those up. 02:22:45.250 --> 02:22:47.500 But since Quaver is the only one who received 02:22:48.489 --> 02:22:51.450 a recommendation from the Committee of the Full Board, 02:22:51.450 --> 02:22:52.800 that's where this is. 02:22:52.800 --> 02:22:53.633 Dr. Johnson. 02:22:54.800 --> 02:22:55.950 That answered it, okay. 02:22:57.561 --> 02:22:59.019 All right, Mr. Hickman. 02:22:59.019 --> 02:23:01.110 And I do have motion for Goodheart 02:23:01.110 --> 02:23:03.413 if you'll tell me the appropriate time to make that. 02:23:05.881 --> 02:23:06.714 All right. 02:23:06.714 --> 02:23:10.760 So I would ask all those in favor of placing QuaverEd 02:23:10.760 --> 02:23:13.853 in the state board adopted list, show by raising your hand. 02:23:20.457 --> 02:23:22.063 Lower your hands. 02:23:23.260 --> 02:23:24.323 We have six, correct? 02:23:25.160 --> 02:23:26.983 All those opposed by the same sign. 02:23:33.950 --> 02:23:36.367 It was six opposed, and six. 02:23:37.240 --> 02:23:40.403 Six in favor and six opposed, the motion does not carry. 02:23:45.350 --> 02:23:46.183 Mr. Hickman. 02:23:48.060 --> 02:23:50.520 I have a motion to make for Goodheart. 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:51.353 Go ahead. 02:23:53.110 --> 02:23:56.130 Require the Goodheart-Willcox Health Education grades six, 02:23:56.130 --> 02:23:59.150 seven through eight, one comma two and physical education, 02:23:59.150 --> 02:24:01.340 lifetime fitness and wellness pursuits 02:24:01.340 --> 02:24:04.660 make corrections listed in the proclamation 2022 report 02:24:04.660 --> 02:24:06.170 of the required corrections. 02:24:06.170 --> 02:24:07.720 The report of new content 02:24:07.720 --> 02:24:09.820 and the report of editorial changes 02:24:09.820 --> 02:24:11.560 require that all instructional materials 02:24:11.560 --> 02:24:14.830 meet established manufacturing standards and specifications. 02:24:14.830 --> 02:24:17.710 Require that all electronic instructional materials comply 02:24:17.710 --> 02:24:21.710 with the web content accessibility guidelines level 2.1 AA. 02:24:23.380 --> 02:24:24.970 And the technical standards required 02:24:24.970 --> 02:24:28.710 by the Federal Rehabilitation Act, Section 508. 02:24:28.710 --> 02:24:31.110 Approve changes and corrections submitted in response 02:24:31.110 --> 02:24:33.260 to written comments and public testimony, 02:24:33.260 --> 02:24:36.840 including those received on November 18th, 2021. 02:24:36.840 --> 02:24:39.720 And place instructional materials submitted for adoption 02:24:39.720 --> 02:24:40.750 on the adopted list, 02:24:40.750 --> 02:24:42.690 as indicated on the proclamation 02:24:42.690 --> 02:24:46.410 2022 list of instructional materials eligible for adoption. 02:24:46.410 --> 02:24:47.880 Second. 02:24:47.880 --> 02:24:49.130 We have a motion to second. 02:24:49.130 --> 02:24:52.860 Members, we're having Ms. Parliamentarian needs some work 02:24:52.860 --> 02:24:54.080 on being able to get this on the screen. 02:24:54.080 --> 02:24:55.800 So we're gonna stand at ease for just a few minutes 02:24:55.800 --> 02:24:57.350 while we get that squared away. 02:25:11.800 --> 02:25:14.000 All right, members let's come back together. 02:25:57.660 --> 02:25:59.870 Members, where did we leave off? 02:25:59.870 --> 02:26:01.677 We had the motion and a second? 02:26:02.710 --> 02:26:04.890 So now at this point, I'm gonna allow Mr. Hickman 02:26:04.890 --> 02:26:07.193 to speak in favor of his motion. 02:26:08.700 --> 02:26:09.560 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 02:26:09.560 --> 02:26:11.170 This is a big decision. 02:26:11.170 --> 02:26:12.950 As the teacher of the year said, 02:26:12.950 --> 02:26:15.870 we're acting for all Texas students. 02:26:15.870 --> 02:26:17.940 It's been five years since anyone cared as much 02:26:17.940 --> 02:26:20.320 about what I thought since when I was across the street 02:26:20.320 --> 02:26:23.260 at the 2016 electoral college. 02:26:23.260 --> 02:26:25.470 We've received feedback from many by emails, 02:26:25.470 --> 02:26:27.310 phone calls and public testimony. 02:26:27.310 --> 02:26:28.260 And I've heard you. 02:26:29.140 --> 02:26:30.300 Feel about Goldilocks. 02:26:30.300 --> 02:26:32.730 Some people want more, some people want less, 02:26:32.730 --> 02:26:34.030 and here we are. 02:26:34.030 --> 02:26:36.800 So I think this board has great integrity. 02:26:36.800 --> 02:26:40.440 Each of us represents our districts the best way we think 02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:42.080 and votes what they do. 02:26:42.080 --> 02:26:44.630 Votes the way they do that they think is best. 02:26:44.630 --> 02:26:46.520 I am making this motion and voting 02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:48.080 in favor of Goodheart-Willcox. 02:26:48.080 --> 02:26:50.120 And I'd like to explain why. 02:26:50.120 --> 02:26:52.780 This board worked hard the past few years. 02:26:52.780 --> 02:26:55.660 I wasn't here, but I watched a number of the meetings 02:26:55.660 --> 02:26:57.730 to develop the new health TEKS. 02:26:57.730 --> 02:26:59.610 I think they're good health TEKS. 02:26:59.610 --> 02:27:02.343 And this book satisfies 100% of those. 02:27:03.240 --> 02:27:05.480 Several of us in staff have worked this week 02:27:05.480 --> 02:27:07.500 and organizations and others 02:27:07.500 --> 02:27:09.403 to make this material even better. 02:27:11.012 --> 02:27:14.890 Goodheart-Willcox has removed the objectionable material 02:27:14.890 --> 02:27:16.770 that went beyond the TEKS. 02:27:16.770 --> 02:27:17.900 This is a good book. 02:27:17.900 --> 02:27:21.050 I feel it's suitable and appropriate for the grade level. 02:27:21.050 --> 02:27:22.370 But let me make clear, 02:27:22.370 --> 02:27:23.940 our action today does not put 02:27:23.940 --> 02:27:26.150 this book in a single classroom. 02:27:26.150 --> 02:27:28.340 Each ISD, and each shack 02:27:28.340 --> 02:27:30.450 will review this material themselves 02:27:30.450 --> 02:27:34.283 and decide what's the best material for that community. 02:27:35.350 --> 02:27:38.340 My concern is the vacuum we spoke about last week. 02:27:38.340 --> 02:27:41.430 If we don't adopt anything, it will be a wild west. 02:27:41.430 --> 02:27:43.440 And I talked to Taz B. about that. 02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:47.730 I think there's 1,400 school districts across the state. 02:27:47.730 --> 02:27:51.930 All of them will be required to satisfy 100% of the TEKS. 02:27:51.930 --> 02:27:56.380 And my concern is they'll find books that are far worse. 02:27:56.380 --> 02:28:01.380 That are from other communities, that don't satisfy our TEKS 02:28:01.750 --> 02:28:04.220 or include a lot of objectional material 02:28:04.220 --> 02:28:05.220 that we do not want. 02:28:07.740 --> 02:28:11.750 In terms of sex ed, just addressing some of the concerns 02:28:11.750 --> 02:28:14.600 I've heard on phone calls and emails. 02:28:14.600 --> 02:28:16.410 Sex ed is now opt in. 02:28:16.410 --> 02:28:19.370 This publisher is able to segregate these materials 02:28:19.370 --> 02:28:21.800 and only provide the ed materials 02:28:21.800 --> 02:28:23.300 to the kids who have opted in. 02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:26.590 I've heard about quarterly updates. 02:28:26.590 --> 02:28:29.800 Any substantive changes to the online materials, 02:28:29.800 --> 02:28:31.943 we'll come back to the SBOE for approval. 02:28:33.510 --> 02:28:34.750 In terms of surveys, 02:28:34.750 --> 02:28:37.520 data mining is illegal under federal law, 02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:40.050 under FERPA and protection of people rights. 02:28:40.050 --> 02:28:42.300 And parents can opt out of surveys. 02:28:42.300 --> 02:28:46.530 Like I'd mentioned with my discussion with our council, 02:28:46.530 --> 02:28:49.330 I would like to put a opt in for surveys 02:28:49.330 --> 02:28:51.463 for future proclamations. 02:28:52.890 --> 02:28:55.530 We have rejected the other materials earlier this week 02:28:55.530 --> 02:28:57.260 that are not aligned with the TEKS 02:28:57.260 --> 02:28:59.810 and have objectionable material. 02:28:59.810 --> 02:29:00.760 And last I would just like 02:29:00.760 --> 02:29:03.060 to emphasize again, local control. 02:29:03.060 --> 02:29:07.110 Each shack or ISD decides what to do, what to use locally. 02:29:07.110 --> 02:29:10.300 I think this is a good material for them to consider. 02:29:10.300 --> 02:29:12.040 But each shack or ISD can decide 02:29:12.040 --> 02:29:13.740 what's best for that community. 02:29:13.740 --> 02:29:14.573 Thank you. 02:29:15.910 --> 02:29:18.160 Ms. Hardy, and then Ms. Perez Diaz. 02:29:20.303 --> 02:29:23.730 I would support my colleagues position 02:29:23.730 --> 02:29:26.710 on Goodheart-Willcox. 02:29:26.710 --> 02:29:29.570 One of the things that we heard over and over again 02:29:29.570 --> 02:29:33.780 was the lack of putting the parents first 02:29:33.780 --> 02:29:35.560 in the lives of the kids. 02:29:35.560 --> 02:29:40.560 And it was kinda hit and miss within that book. 02:29:41.300 --> 02:29:45.520 And I think that that's a very important fact that parent 02:29:45.520 --> 02:29:48.520 are always the first to go to, but having served 02:29:51.150 --> 02:29:52.670 as a trusted adult. 02:29:52.670 --> 02:29:55.520 And in many a situation in my 30 years 02:29:55.520 --> 02:29:57.260 of classroom teaching, 02:29:57.260 --> 02:30:00.030 I understand also the trusted adult. 02:30:00.030 --> 02:30:02.230 And I wanna give you a quick little example 02:30:02.230 --> 02:30:05.800 of a trusted adult situation that I had set up 02:30:05.800 --> 02:30:07.340 when I was in central office. 02:30:07.340 --> 02:30:11.540 And we had the counselor and the health teacher, 02:30:11.540 --> 02:30:15.120 or not health teacher, counselor and nurse 02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:18.630 do the sex education for sixth graders. 02:30:18.630 --> 02:30:22.510 And I was actually, it was a program called Worth White. 02:30:22.510 --> 02:30:26.610 And I was reading in the newspaper about a pedophile 02:30:26.610 --> 02:30:29.720 who had been arrested and they ended up 02:30:31.408 --> 02:30:36.408 tracing it back to about 15 or 16 young ladies, young girls. 02:30:37.780 --> 02:30:40.430 And what happened? 02:30:40.430 --> 02:30:43.510 Well, newspaper asked the young lady, 02:30:43.510 --> 02:30:46.490 how is it that you came to report this person? 02:30:46.490 --> 02:30:48.040 And she said, well, 02:30:48.040 --> 02:30:53.040 I was in school and they did a program on sex education 02:30:53.270 --> 02:30:54.730 in sixth grade. 02:30:54.730 --> 02:30:58.670 And we were able to talk to the counselor and or the nurse. 02:30:58.670 --> 02:31:02.070 And I reported it because things were being done to me 02:31:02.070 --> 02:31:04.490 that I didn't even know what that was. 02:31:04.490 --> 02:31:05.720 I didn't know what was happening. 02:31:05.720 --> 02:31:07.340 I didn't know it was wrong. 02:31:07.340 --> 02:31:11.510 And she said it was the worst of the white curriculum 02:31:11.510 --> 02:31:14.240 that really got her to do that. 02:31:14.240 --> 02:31:17.780 So if you think about it, and after that, 02:31:17.780 --> 02:31:21.130 I was speaking and I heard district attorney say, 02:31:21.130 --> 02:31:23.420 assistant district attorney say every year 02:31:23.420 --> 02:31:25.420 that when we taught that in school, 02:31:25.420 --> 02:31:29.900 we had kids who were saved from pedophile situations 02:31:29.900 --> 02:31:32.550 because they were made aware 02:31:32.550 --> 02:31:36.260 and they had a trusted adult to talk to about that. 02:31:36.260 --> 02:31:39.550 So I appreciate the fact that Goodheart-Willcox 02:31:39.550 --> 02:31:44.550 has made an effort to support the standards that we had set 02:31:45.070 --> 02:31:48.420 for sex education and for other things. 02:31:48.420 --> 02:31:50.317 And because of that, 02:31:50.317 --> 02:31:52.960 and the fact that they have to do this opt in 02:31:52.960 --> 02:31:55.180 for the sex education, 02:31:55.180 --> 02:31:58.500 I am going to be also supporting Goodheart-Willcox. 02:31:58.500 --> 02:31:59.333 Thank you. 02:32:02.090 --> 02:32:03.490 Thank you, Chair. 02:32:03.490 --> 02:32:06.320 I stand in support of Goodheart-Willcox 02:32:06.320 --> 02:32:07.850 but I have to be very honest. 02:32:07.850 --> 02:32:12.120 I am really confused about where this body stands 02:32:12.120 --> 02:32:15.080 in terms of how we support our students. 02:32:15.080 --> 02:32:19.290 So to the maker of the motion, 02:32:19.290 --> 02:32:23.930 you mentioned talking about how we voted down texts 02:32:23.930 --> 02:32:26.140 that didn't meet the standards. 02:32:26.140 --> 02:32:30.630 We as a body, literally just voted down a text 02:32:30.630 --> 02:32:34.260 that met 100% of the TEKS. 02:32:34.260 --> 02:32:37.450 I don't understand what I am missing. 02:32:37.450 --> 02:32:40.920 Number two, it is my belief, 02:32:40.920 --> 02:32:42.820 and we can go back and look at the video. 02:32:42.820 --> 02:32:47.010 But I think sir, that you supported 02:32:47.010 --> 02:32:50.560 that the text our vote on Wednesday, 02:32:50.560 --> 02:32:53.330 that the organization came back and made changes 02:32:53.330 --> 02:32:55.630 that you personally requested. 02:32:55.630 --> 02:32:58.700 And now it's been voted down. 02:32:58.700 --> 02:33:01.540 Again, I don't know what I'm missing. 02:33:01.540 --> 02:33:05.440 Lastly, we just had an anecdote about pedophilia 02:33:05.440 --> 02:33:08.840 and the importance of sex education 02:33:08.840 --> 02:33:11.740 in the middle school level about how these young women 02:33:11.740 --> 02:33:14.763 were able to identify what was happening to them. 02:33:16.410 --> 02:33:18.770 Before I got into public education, 02:33:18.770 --> 02:33:21.660 I was in child protective services. 02:33:21.660 --> 02:33:26.130 So many of my kids were victims of abuse, neglect, 02:33:26.130 --> 02:33:28.800 and that includes sexual abuse. 02:33:28.800 --> 02:33:31.550 The average age of sexual abuse for children 02:33:31.550 --> 02:33:33.450 in this state is nine. 02:33:33.450 --> 02:33:36.350 Are you a middle schooler at the age of nine? 02:33:36.350 --> 02:33:37.510 You're not. 02:33:37.510 --> 02:33:39.750 Then how do we expect those young people 02:33:39.750 --> 02:33:41.420 to identify what's happening to them 02:33:41.420 --> 02:33:44.200 when the average age is in elementary school? 02:33:44.200 --> 02:33:46.490 I am infuriated by the conversations 02:33:46.490 --> 02:33:49.020 that have been taking place all week long regarding 02:33:49.020 --> 02:33:52.370 this suggestion that there's pedophilia 02:33:52.370 --> 02:33:55.170 and that there's encouragement of sexual activity. 02:33:55.170 --> 02:33:57.710 No, it's not what that is. 02:33:57.710 --> 02:33:59.200 This is us acknowledging 02:33:59.200 --> 02:34:02.200 what's actually happening in the real world and experiences 02:34:02.200 --> 02:34:03.880 outside of the classroom that our kids 02:34:03.880 --> 02:34:05.760 have to come to class with. 02:34:05.760 --> 02:34:07.170 Why don't we acknowledge that? 02:34:07.170 --> 02:34:10.490 Why don't we acknowledge what's really happening 02:34:10.490 --> 02:34:12.760 and talk about what our kids need? 02:34:12.760 --> 02:34:15.670 The tools they need to better prepare themselves 02:34:15.670 --> 02:34:17.410 for the outside world that they live in, 02:34:17.410 --> 02:34:18.600 away from the classroom. 02:34:18.600 --> 02:34:22.860 I'm tired of us making decisions about the small bubble 02:34:22.860 --> 02:34:24.310 in the short period of time that they have 02:34:24.310 --> 02:34:25.763 when they're in classes. 02:34:26.630 --> 02:34:29.300 What about what happens to our kids away from school 02:34:29.300 --> 02:34:31.150 that they come to the classroom with? 02:34:32.800 --> 02:34:36.710 I can't speak anymore to how frustrated I am 02:34:36.710 --> 02:34:38.990 with how everything has gone down this week. 02:34:38.990 --> 02:34:40.270 I support this book. 02:34:40.270 --> 02:34:42.640 I supported Quaver and it will support the other two 02:34:42.640 --> 02:34:45.140 'cause that is what we're really trying to accomplish. 02:34:45.140 --> 02:34:48.280 It's not about pedophilia and encouraging sexual activity. 02:34:48.280 --> 02:34:49.890 It's about preparing our students 02:34:49.890 --> 02:34:52.063 for what is in a real world every day. 02:34:54.210 --> 02:34:55.560 Dr. Bell-Metereau 02:34:56.550 --> 02:34:58.160 I want to concur 02:34:58.160 --> 02:35:01.840 with what Ms. Perez-Diaz has said. 02:35:01.840 --> 02:35:04.050 Our daughter was actually the voiceover 02:35:04.050 --> 02:35:07.540 for the Worth the Wait video 02:35:07.540 --> 02:35:09.990 that was distributed to schools. 02:35:09.990 --> 02:35:13.900 And my students in my video production class 02:35:13.900 --> 02:35:16.720 did the interviews with the teen parents 02:35:16.720 --> 02:35:21.220 who talked about how they ended up as teen parents. 02:35:21.220 --> 02:35:25.078 And it was so moving to see the courage 02:35:25.078 --> 02:35:27.240 of those young people 02:35:27.240 --> 02:35:31.470 who are in that video and who made that video. 02:35:31.470 --> 02:35:35.030 And we emphasized the fact 02:35:35.030 --> 02:35:37.810 that it's hard to be a teen parent. 02:35:37.810 --> 02:35:42.380 And we emphasize the fact that there were ways to avoid 02:35:42.380 --> 02:35:46.720 being a teen parent and that it was worth the wait. 02:35:46.720 --> 02:35:51.720 But the idea that mentioning anything to do with sex 02:35:51.750 --> 02:35:56.750 will harm our students is simply not validated 02:35:57.580 --> 02:35:59.810 by scientific research. 02:35:59.810 --> 02:36:03.740 The more students know about their bodies, 02:36:03.740 --> 02:36:07.030 the more likely they are to make wise decisions 02:36:07.030 --> 02:36:09.170 about their bodies. 02:36:09.170 --> 02:36:12.640 Now, I understand that life has changed 02:36:12.640 --> 02:36:14.720 over the last few decades. 02:36:14.720 --> 02:36:18.740 So many of the people who are making those calls, 02:36:18.740 --> 02:36:23.090 I take so many calls from people about this issue. 02:36:23.090 --> 02:36:27.780 And I try to listen to most of them and I try to answer them 02:36:27.780 --> 02:36:32.036 and say, we are now an opt in state. 02:36:32.036 --> 02:36:35.420 Your children will not receive sex education 02:36:35.420 --> 02:36:37.612 unless you opt in. 02:36:37.612 --> 02:36:41.300 And yet, so many of them wanna prevent other people 02:36:41.300 --> 02:36:45.220 who do want to have their children have sex education. 02:36:45.220 --> 02:36:48.210 They want to prevent those parents for half from having 02:36:48.210 --> 02:36:53.210 any materials or any access to comprehensive sex education. 02:36:55.100 --> 02:36:57.780 And I believe in local control, 02:36:57.780 --> 02:37:00.870 I believe in parents having the right to say 02:37:00.870 --> 02:37:04.510 what their children will learn or won't learn. 02:37:04.510 --> 02:37:09.510 But I also know very directly the implications 02:37:09.560 --> 02:37:12.640 of not learning anything about sex. 02:37:12.640 --> 02:37:14.190 And I just wanna mention, 02:37:14.190 --> 02:37:17.870 I am not suggesting that Texas should try to do this, 02:37:17.870 --> 02:37:20.170 but the two countries in the world 02:37:20.170 --> 02:37:25.170 who have the lowest unwanted pregnancies, 02:37:25.220 --> 02:37:30.220 who have people who are young people who wait the longest 02:37:31.400 --> 02:37:36.400 to have sex, actually begin sex education 02:37:36.420 --> 02:37:38.170 at the age of five. 02:37:38.170 --> 02:37:43.170 By teaching students the proper terms for their body parts. 02:37:43.770 --> 02:37:45.710 And it's not something scary. 02:37:45.710 --> 02:37:49.010 And it's not something that they have to be ashamed about 02:37:49.010 --> 02:37:50.720 or fearful about. 02:37:50.720 --> 02:37:52.670 They learn about it just the way you learn 02:37:52.670 --> 02:37:55.424 about eating and drinking. 02:37:55.424 --> 02:38:00.424 And I would really like to see us give all the parents, 02:38:00.660 --> 02:38:02.420 all the children in Texas, 02:38:02.420 --> 02:38:05.473 the right to learn what they want to learn. 02:38:06.460 --> 02:38:09.170 And so I agree with Ms. Perez 02:38:09.170 --> 02:38:13.410 that it is really a shame to deny these materials 02:38:13.410 --> 02:38:15.640 to those districts and those parents 02:38:15.640 --> 02:38:20.600 who want that information based on a very small, 02:38:20.600 --> 02:38:24.690 but incredibly vocal and organized group. 02:38:24.690 --> 02:38:27.850 And they are sending out the same letters 02:38:27.850 --> 02:38:31.700 and telling the same stories over and over and over again. 02:38:31.700 --> 02:38:34.200 And I wonder, how did this happen? 02:38:34.200 --> 02:38:36.930 How was this organization developed 02:38:36.930 --> 02:38:39.873 to be so systematic and energetic? 02:38:40.800 --> 02:38:45.630 But I do hope that we will approve at least one text 02:38:47.017 --> 02:38:48.660 for teachers to be able to rely on. 02:38:48.660 --> 02:38:50.223 At least one. 02:38:52.068 --> 02:38:54.230 I just wanna remind members that were discussing these 02:38:54.230 --> 02:38:56.600 to focus specifically on the Goodheart-Willcox books 02:38:56.600 --> 02:38:58.062 in front of us. 02:38:58.062 --> 02:38:58.895 Mr. Allen. 02:38:58.895 --> 02:38:59.960 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 02:38:59.960 --> 02:39:03.500 And certainly I want to, as my good friend, Kim Mercy 02:39:03.500 --> 02:39:05.960 used to say, rise in support 02:39:05.960 --> 02:39:09.890 of this Goodheart-Willcox. 02:39:09.890 --> 02:39:12.670 For several reasons that have already been spoken 02:39:12.670 --> 02:39:15.840 in terms of providing a guide 02:39:15.840 --> 02:39:18.674 of a resource for our educators 02:39:18.674 --> 02:39:21.040 throughout the state of Texas in this field. 02:39:21.040 --> 02:39:23.430 One of the things I'll always remember 02:39:23.430 --> 02:39:25.030 is that at some point, 02:39:25.030 --> 02:39:29.910 we can work our way out of a job by not being vigilant 02:39:29.910 --> 02:39:32.810 in how we produce things and approve things. 02:39:32.810 --> 02:39:36.190 'Cause you imagine if we walk away from here this weekend 02:39:36.190 --> 02:39:38.090 and approve no materials. 02:39:38.090 --> 02:39:40.410 Then we send a message out to the publishers 02:39:40.410 --> 02:39:43.740 that is is a total waste of time to present your product 02:39:43.740 --> 02:39:45.727 to the State Board of Education 02:39:45.727 --> 02:39:49.040 because if it's exposed to the public, it's torn down. 02:39:49.040 --> 02:39:49.960 And in this case, 02:39:49.960 --> 02:39:52.150 it's a great thing to be able to have the testimony 02:39:52.150 --> 02:39:53.590 on what products come forward. 02:39:53.590 --> 02:39:56.010 So we appreciate this publisher 02:39:56.010 --> 02:39:58.100 for being willing to make changes. 02:39:58.100 --> 02:40:00.262 That's a part of the process. 02:40:00.262 --> 02:40:04.220 To listen to the citizens or constituents out there 02:40:04.220 --> 02:40:05.170 and making changes. 02:40:05.170 --> 02:40:07.470 That's a part of the processes. 02:40:07.470 --> 02:40:09.980 So I'm appreciative to this particular publishing. 02:40:09.980 --> 02:40:11.480 I hope we approve it. 02:40:11.480 --> 02:40:13.250 But I always look at things through the lens 02:40:13.250 --> 02:40:14.640 I've been trained to look through to me. 02:40:14.640 --> 02:40:17.310 And over the years, and this is my 18th year, 02:40:17.310 --> 02:40:19.520 my training says that I should look at these 02:40:20.817 --> 02:40:23.981 and use my vote in a way that I've been trained to use it. 02:40:23.981 --> 02:40:27.850 And if the product meets the four correlates, if you would, 02:40:27.850 --> 02:40:30.020 then I should say it meets that. 02:40:30.020 --> 02:40:32.180 I'm not looking at all of the other effects. 02:40:32.180 --> 02:40:37.040 If it meets the criteria, then my vote is yes. 02:40:37.040 --> 02:40:38.750 I may not agree with everything. 02:40:38.750 --> 02:40:43.610 And remembering, I may not support all of the old text, 02:40:43.610 --> 02:40:45.970 but if it meets that particular criteria, 02:40:45.970 --> 02:40:46.940 so my answer is yes. 02:40:46.940 --> 02:40:50.240 So I voted for all the products because in my view, 02:40:50.240 --> 02:40:52.290 they met those four corridors. 02:40:52.290 --> 02:40:54.060 And so that simple for me. 02:40:54.060 --> 02:40:58.250 Because I recognize I'm not the total decision-maker. 02:40:58.250 --> 02:41:00.620 I want the products to go out into the state. 02:41:00.620 --> 02:41:02.670 I want them to know that they met 02:41:02.670 --> 02:41:04.600 our stringent standard, if you will. 02:41:04.600 --> 02:41:08.270 But then I want every district to make choices 02:41:08.270 --> 02:41:10.020 for what's best for their community. 02:41:10.020 --> 02:41:12.083 But to say we found nothing, 02:41:12.950 --> 02:41:17.000 it may not be the best for us in the future 02:41:17.000 --> 02:41:18.670 and we can find ourselves here 02:41:18.670 --> 02:41:20.863 approving nothing in the future. 02:41:22.310 --> 02:41:23.310 Ms. Perez. 02:41:24.673 --> 02:41:28.045 My question is for staff, I'd like to know 02:41:28.045 --> 02:41:31.760 in perhaps not so brief detail, 02:41:31.760 --> 02:41:35.170 what, if any additional burdens will our ISD face 02:41:35.170 --> 02:41:39.063 if the SBOE approves zero instructional materials? 02:41:42.830 --> 02:41:44.610 As member Hickman mentioned, 02:41:44.610 --> 02:41:46.910 districts do have to certify every year 02:41:46.910 --> 02:41:49.210 that they have instructional materials 02:41:49.210 --> 02:41:54.193 that meet 100% of the TEKS for every course except PE. 02:41:55.190 --> 02:41:58.740 And they have to do that before they're allowed to access 02:41:58.740 --> 02:42:01.590 their instructional materials allotment funds. 02:42:01.590 --> 02:42:05.860 And so if there aren't materials that have been vetted 02:42:05.860 --> 02:42:09.493 through this process to meet 100% of the TEKS, 02:42:09.493 --> 02:42:12.670 then each district has to have a process for vetting 02:42:12.670 --> 02:42:13.840 the instructional materials 02:42:13.840 --> 02:42:15.690 to determine the standards alignment. 02:42:16.700 --> 02:42:18.570 Additionally, there are some advantages 02:42:18.570 --> 02:42:21.180 to purchasing materials from the SBEO list. 02:42:21.180 --> 02:42:24.980 Those include that SBEO adopted publishers 02:42:24.980 --> 02:42:27.900 must have their digital materials 02:42:27.900 --> 02:42:30.480 audited by a third party to ensure 02:42:30.480 --> 02:42:33.050 they meet accessibility standards. 02:42:33.050 --> 02:42:38.050 The print materials are produced in accessible formats 02:42:38.870 --> 02:42:42.870 procured by the agency in braille, large print and audio. 02:42:42.870 --> 02:42:45.680 And given to the schools at no charge. 02:42:45.680 --> 02:42:50.008 And the price is protected for eight years. 02:42:50.008 --> 02:42:52.500 So it cannot increase, it can only decrease. 02:42:52.500 --> 02:42:54.650 In the event that a school purchases 02:42:54.650 --> 02:42:59.340 a non-SBOE adopted print material and needs those materials 02:42:59.340 --> 02:43:02.170 in an accessible format for a student 02:43:02.170 --> 02:43:03.740 with a visual impairment, 02:43:03.740 --> 02:43:07.393 they have to pay to get those materials mastered. 02:43:10.199 --> 02:43:11.720 So the master copy would be used 02:43:11.720 --> 02:43:13.010 to produce additional copies 02:43:13.010 --> 02:43:15.850 and then they have to pay for the copies themselves. 02:43:15.850 --> 02:43:18.380 We did a bit of research and the mastering. 02:43:18.380 --> 02:43:22.690 Can cost anywhere from 700 to $130,000. 02:43:22.690 --> 02:43:27.127 And the copies can cost anywhere from 30 to over $5,000. 02:43:28.140 --> 02:43:31.030 The districts can pay for those materials 02:43:31.030 --> 02:43:36.030 using IDEA B funds, their allotment money or local funds. 02:43:39.520 --> 02:43:42.480 But if it were to be an SBOE approved 02:43:42.480 --> 02:43:45.933 instructional material, who pays for that? 02:43:47.890 --> 02:43:49.433 We do. Thank you. 02:43:54.934 --> 02:43:57.550 Yeah, I wanna echo what Member Bell-Metereau said. 02:43:57.550 --> 02:44:01.330 Remind everybody that Texas is opt in state now. 02:44:01.330 --> 02:44:03.640 And so we've heard a lot, I've received hundreds, 02:44:03.640 --> 02:44:05.920 if not thousands of emails and phone calls 02:44:05.920 --> 02:44:09.180 over the last few weeks about parental rights. 02:44:09.180 --> 02:44:11.309 So I would ask the members, 02:44:11.309 --> 02:44:14.360 what about the parental rights of the parents 02:44:14.360 --> 02:44:17.690 that do want their children to have 02:44:17.690 --> 02:44:20.260 this exposure and this knowledge, 02:44:20.260 --> 02:44:23.193 this not coming from their friends or the internet? 02:44:24.040 --> 02:44:28.100 And I wanna also mention that I got an email this morning 02:44:28.100 --> 02:44:33.000 from a retired Methodist minister in Rosenberg, Texas, 02:44:33.000 --> 02:44:38.000 who has, when he was working, through the Methodist church, 02:44:38.520 --> 02:44:40.350 through his Methodist church, 02:44:40.350 --> 02:44:44.760 taught a sex ed class for junior high age kids. 02:44:44.760 --> 02:44:47.080 And he was asking that we, 02:44:47.080 --> 02:44:50.750 he was asking me to approve Goodheart-Willcox. 02:44:50.750 --> 02:44:53.060 And then also regarding the testimony 02:44:53.060 --> 02:44:55.540 we've had this week and then a year ago 02:44:56.480 --> 02:44:58.180 From Rory Kuykendall. 02:44:58.180 --> 02:45:01.990 She's a professional in this area. 02:45:01.990 --> 02:45:04.330 She's conservative, she's a conservative Republican. 02:45:04.330 --> 02:45:06.846 So I would just remind people 02:45:06.846 --> 02:45:11.846 that we're not talking about approving everything here. 02:45:11.930 --> 02:45:15.050 We're talking about just Goodheart-Willcox, 02:45:15.050 --> 02:45:18.610 which a lot of people think is more than reasonable. 02:45:18.610 --> 02:45:21.320 And again, if you don't think it's reasonable, 02:45:21.320 --> 02:45:23.540 then you do not have, 02:45:23.540 --> 02:45:26.483 your child will not be exposed to it at all. 02:45:30.290 --> 02:45:31.123 Yes. 02:45:31.123 --> 02:45:32.990 I have a couple of followup questions for staff 02:45:33.830 --> 02:45:37.590 based on some things that Member Perez was asking. 02:45:37.590 --> 02:45:39.390 The first question is, 02:45:39.390 --> 02:45:42.240 well, we talked about if we don't adopt any materials, 02:45:42.240 --> 02:45:45.080 they can just have a school nurse nurse just teach it, 02:45:45.080 --> 02:45:46.640 but do all schools in Texas, 02:45:46.640 --> 02:45:48.600 are they required to have school nurses? 02:45:48.600 --> 02:45:51.853 And so do all schools in Texas have a school nurse there? 02:45:52.750 --> 02:45:53.980 Ms. Davis, I'll go ahead and answer 02:45:53.980 --> 02:45:55.620 that question for you. 02:45:55.620 --> 02:46:00.620 Not every school has a full-time school nurse. 02:46:00.710 --> 02:46:02.860 Okay, so we can't just depend on a school nurse 02:46:02.860 --> 02:46:04.880 to be able to teach this. 02:46:04.880 --> 02:46:07.730 Well, there is not a full-time school nurse 02:46:07.730 --> 02:46:08.713 on every campus. 02:46:09.550 --> 02:46:12.090 And my second question is what is the certification 02:46:12.090 --> 02:46:13.983 requirements for a health teacher? 02:46:16.610 --> 02:46:19.422 We'll have to look that up for you, 02:46:19.422 --> 02:46:20.255 if you can give me just a moment, 02:46:20.255 --> 02:46:21.117 I'll find that for you. 02:46:21.117 --> 02:46:23.670 And in particular, do you have, 02:46:23.670 --> 02:46:26.430 is there a particular health certification 02:46:26.430 --> 02:46:28.700 that you would have to have that health background 02:46:28.700 --> 02:46:30.880 and then take the health test 02:46:30.880 --> 02:46:33.850 or is that open for teachers from different types 02:46:33.850 --> 02:46:36.260 of certifications to be able to teach? 02:46:36.260 --> 02:46:37.640 So I believe the certification 02:46:37.640 --> 02:46:41.904 is going to be very similar to any other subject area. 02:46:41.904 --> 02:46:44.850 I think what you're describing sounds to me 02:46:44.850 --> 02:46:48.557 a little bit like some of the requirements for CTE. 02:46:50.020 --> 02:46:51.500 So for your CTE teachers, 02:46:51.500 --> 02:46:54.560 there are times that you require work or a spec, 02:46:54.560 --> 02:46:56.107 and then with your support 02:46:57.320 --> 02:47:01.156 will require certain work approvals. 02:47:01.156 --> 02:47:02.980 But this, I think is treated like any, 02:47:02.980 --> 02:47:07.130 like math or reading would be in terms of educator's 02:47:07.130 --> 02:47:10.700 need to be proficient in the essential knowledge and skills 02:47:10.700 --> 02:47:12.190 for those certifications. 02:47:12.190 --> 02:47:13.860 And that's something that we work 02:47:13.860 --> 02:47:15.740 with the staff who support a spec, 02:47:15.740 --> 02:47:17.660 anytime you update your standards to make sure 02:47:17.660 --> 02:47:20.632 that that is reflected in the tests, 02:47:20.632 --> 02:47:24.720 but I can get the specific certifications in just a moment. 02:47:24.720 --> 02:47:25.553 Thank you. 02:47:25.553 --> 02:47:28.700 And I'm just asking because we're depending on our teachers 02:47:28.700 --> 02:47:30.390 and nurses or whoever else 02:47:30.390 --> 02:47:32.530 to teach us without any resources, 02:47:32.530 --> 02:47:34.770 so how can we guarantee they have the background, 02:47:34.770 --> 02:47:37.478 the knowledge and everything to be able to do so 02:47:37.478 --> 02:47:39.193 without any type of resources whatsoever? 02:47:42.780 --> 02:47:44.660 Yes, well, originally, 02:47:44.660 --> 02:47:47.830 I had voted no on this Goodheart-Willcox. 02:47:47.830 --> 02:47:52.220 but this morning, I've gotten several emails and phone calls 02:47:52.220 --> 02:47:56.810 after they've seen the changes that have been made. 02:47:56.810 --> 02:47:58.783 And so I will be voting for this. 02:48:01.460 --> 02:48:02.460 Any other? 02:48:03.440 --> 02:48:04.463 Sorry, Dr. Johnson. 02:48:08.450 --> 02:48:12.090 Like Matt Robinson said, I'm very thankful for the opt in. 02:48:12.090 --> 02:48:13.940 I think that's a great addition. 02:48:13.940 --> 02:48:17.543 And I don't think that the design there, 02:48:18.950 --> 02:48:23.950 any of our intention is to prevent sex education. 02:48:23.950 --> 02:48:26.003 It reminds me a little bit of our, 02:48:26.840 --> 02:48:29.363 my dilemma on the charter school vote. 02:48:30.210 --> 02:48:33.960 I'm in favor of good charter schools 02:48:33.960 --> 02:48:36.580 and I'm in favor of good sex education. 02:48:36.580 --> 02:48:41.400 I just don't think I'm in favor of okay sex education. 02:48:41.400 --> 02:48:45.850 We had a discussion about the void that we might leave. 02:48:45.850 --> 02:48:48.710 And I've talked to quite a few people about that. 02:48:48.710 --> 02:48:51.660 It doesn't seem like that's as big an issue 02:48:51.660 --> 02:48:53.610 as I anticipated. 02:48:53.610 --> 02:48:56.040 My experience on the local school board had been 02:48:56.040 --> 02:48:58.560 that we rarely adopted things, 02:48:58.560 --> 02:49:01.810 but I don't know that we never did. 02:49:01.810 --> 02:49:03.860 But I don't think that's something 02:49:03.860 --> 02:49:07.950 that we have to make a line in the sand on. 02:49:07.950 --> 02:49:09.020 I think the important thing 02:49:09.020 --> 02:49:13.850 is that we give excellent material. 02:49:13.850 --> 02:49:17.243 And I think right now, we're looking at okay material. 02:49:18.100 --> 02:49:19.303 I can't support this. 02:49:20.540 --> 02:49:21.810 I'm gonna jump in if everyone's 02:49:21.810 --> 02:49:24.110 had their first time to speak and we'll try to keep this 02:49:24.110 --> 02:49:27.703 to a strict enforcement of two times each one. 02:49:27.703 --> 02:49:28.703 Mr. Maynard. 02:49:30.520 --> 02:49:31.353 Yeah. 02:49:33.680 --> 02:49:34.983 No one ever said that, 02:49:36.360 --> 02:49:39.250 sometimes, these decisions are not easy 02:49:39.250 --> 02:49:44.250 'cause you're trying to balance things out a little bit. 02:49:44.400 --> 02:49:46.260 I just wanna kind of make a couple of notes. 02:49:46.260 --> 02:49:49.400 First of all is that this proclamation 02:49:52.390 --> 02:49:54.000 is not about sex education. 02:49:54.000 --> 02:49:54.963 It never has been. 02:49:56.250 --> 02:49:59.680 I am greatly disappointed by some of the headlines I've seen 02:49:59.680 --> 02:50:03.700 in some of the local media that talks about sex education 02:50:03.700 --> 02:50:05.400 because the State Board of Education 02:50:05.400 --> 02:50:08.120 is not really authorized for sex education. 02:50:08.120 --> 02:50:13.120 The law, 28.004 is actually very clear about that 02:50:13.550 --> 02:50:15.760 is that, that is really the domain 02:50:15.760 --> 02:50:17.590 of a local board of trustees 02:50:17.590 --> 02:50:21.043 working alongside a school health advisory council. 02:50:22.230 --> 02:50:24.600 And when this board put together, 02:50:24.600 --> 02:50:29.010 the health standards is that we were very, very intentional 02:50:29.010 --> 02:50:30.980 about respecting the law and the intent, 02:50:30.980 --> 02:50:32.383 the spirit of that law. 02:50:33.380 --> 02:50:37.210 And that's why that a number of us have been very concerned 02:50:37.210 --> 02:50:42.210 about materials that seem to go beyond that, 02:50:43.090 --> 02:50:46.103 intended to just circumvent that intent. 02:50:47.288 --> 02:50:50.390 'Cause that's the law and that's the intent of the law. 02:50:50.390 --> 02:50:54.750 And I spent some time with the author of that statute 02:50:54.750 --> 02:50:56.817 and exactly what the intent of that was. 02:50:56.817 --> 02:50:58.090 And so that's the first thing. 02:50:58.090 --> 02:51:02.740 And again, and some of the media sources, 02:51:02.740 --> 02:51:07.300 if you're listening is that I just scratch my head 02:51:07.300 --> 02:51:10.740 and what editor let that get passed? 02:51:10.740 --> 02:51:13.210 And you guys get your facts straight. 02:51:13.210 --> 02:51:15.750 Secondly, is that I've got a lot of emails 02:51:17.770 --> 02:51:21.580 written sort of this breathless pros. 02:51:25.200 --> 02:51:27.066 How dare you? 02:51:27.066 --> 02:51:28.810 How could the State Board of Education 02:51:28.810 --> 02:51:30.340 even consider something like this? 02:51:30.340 --> 02:51:32.880 Well, the answer is, is that we have a process 02:51:32.880 --> 02:51:37.200 and whatever gets submitted to us, we consider it. 02:51:37.200 --> 02:51:39.750 We don't have the option to not consider it. 02:51:39.750 --> 02:51:41.753 We just don't arbitrarily do that. 02:51:43.110 --> 02:51:47.300 If any of you submitted a book, we would consider it. 02:51:47.300 --> 02:51:49.780 And there'd be some people like it and some people don't, 02:51:49.780 --> 02:51:51.190 but that's how the process goes. 02:51:51.190 --> 02:51:53.916 And by the way, that's not the first time we've had 02:51:53.916 --> 02:51:57.340 that indignant comment made us. 02:51:57.340 --> 02:51:58.590 How could you? 02:51:58.590 --> 02:52:00.423 Well, because that's the process. 02:52:02.290 --> 02:52:03.740 I'm also getting a lot of emails. 02:52:03.740 --> 02:52:05.590 I say, well, vote them all down. 02:52:05.590 --> 02:52:07.900 Well, and by the way, 02:52:07.900 --> 02:52:11.333 none of those emails have suggested an alternative. 02:52:14.910 --> 02:52:16.780 What would you suggest? 02:52:16.780 --> 02:52:18.250 Because the fact of the matter is, 02:52:18.250 --> 02:52:20.500 is that we have a process here 02:52:20.500 --> 02:52:23.140 that's very open and transparent. 02:52:23.140 --> 02:52:26.870 Every single text, every piece of instructional material, 02:52:26.870 --> 02:52:29.070 every jot and tittle, 02:52:29.070 --> 02:52:31.113 if I can use some King James English, 02:52:31.970 --> 02:52:33.800 is available to the public. 02:52:33.800 --> 02:52:36.440 If you wanna sit up in front of your computer screen 02:52:36.440 --> 02:52:38.030 in your pajamas, eating Cheetos 02:52:38.030 --> 02:52:40.120 at one o'clock in the morning, and look at a textbook, 02:52:40.120 --> 02:52:41.960 we're looking at you can do it. 02:52:41.960 --> 02:52:43.060 Completely accessible. 02:52:44.250 --> 02:52:46.840 I will tell you the law does not require 02:52:46.840 --> 02:52:51.060 a local school district to have a transparent process. 02:52:51.060 --> 02:52:52.470 Not required. 02:52:52.470 --> 02:52:53.393 They can. 02:52:54.290 --> 02:52:56.623 Local citizens should request that, 02:52:57.460 --> 02:52:59.260 but they're not required to do that. 02:53:00.380 --> 02:53:03.233 My issue is, is that if we adopted nothing, 02:53:04.770 --> 02:53:08.520 is that the school districts are going to buy something 02:53:10.093 --> 02:53:11.343 and through what process? 02:53:12.450 --> 02:53:14.610 Will the citizens have access to that process? 02:53:14.610 --> 02:53:16.163 Well, in some cases, they will. 02:53:17.920 --> 02:53:21.040 Now, the whole sex education piece, 02:53:21.040 --> 02:53:22.200 that's at a different animal 02:53:22.200 --> 02:53:24.642 because that's not what we're doing here. 02:53:24.642 --> 02:53:25.530 That's not what this proclamation. 02:53:25.530 --> 02:53:27.393 It is not sex education. 02:53:28.840 --> 02:53:30.800 And so a local school district 02:53:30.800 --> 02:53:35.600 will purchase health education materials, which by the way, 02:53:35.600 --> 02:53:38.920 is inclusive of a lot of material besides sex education. 02:53:38.920 --> 02:53:41.120 And I know that has just sucked all the oxygen 02:53:41.120 --> 02:53:41.993 out of the room. 02:53:44.540 --> 02:53:47.830 But a local school health advisory council 02:53:47.830 --> 02:53:51.000 will make a recommendation related to sex education 02:53:51.000 --> 02:53:53.290 and the local school board of trustees, 02:53:53.290 --> 02:53:55.373 the board of trustees will act upon that. 02:53:57.560 --> 02:53:59.710 I will tell you that the Governor's office is very concerned 02:53:59.710 --> 02:54:02.653 about us adopting nothing. 02:54:04.010 --> 02:54:07.610 And then just leaving school districts 02:54:07.610 --> 02:54:08.960 to just find their own way. 02:54:12.016 --> 02:54:13.333 I do have some concerns, 02:54:14.708 --> 02:54:18.230 but sometimes, in these processes, 02:54:18.230 --> 02:54:20.440 we don't get to have everything we want. 02:54:20.440 --> 02:54:23.020 Sometimes you have to make the best decision. 02:54:23.020 --> 02:54:26.143 It may not be ideal, 02:54:27.500 --> 02:54:28.870 but I think it was Benjamin Franklin 02:54:28.870 --> 02:54:31.370 that said the politics is the art of the possible. 02:54:32.430 --> 02:54:35.282 And so in spite of the concerns, 02:54:35.282 --> 02:54:37.963 I think the prudent course of action, 02:54:39.280 --> 02:54:44.280 in spite of the clamors is that to approve something, 02:54:44.930 --> 02:54:47.530 to give school districts something to work with 02:54:47.530 --> 02:54:49.160 rather than nothing. 02:54:49.160 --> 02:54:49.993 Thank you. 02:54:54.340 --> 02:54:55.210 Simon right here, 02:54:55.210 --> 02:54:57.240 and kinda echo a little bit and specifically 02:54:57.240 --> 02:54:59.510 about something Member Hickman brought up about the vacuum 02:54:59.510 --> 02:55:00.840 and that's been talked about. 02:55:00.840 --> 02:55:02.650 The fact that if we adopt nothing 02:55:02.650 --> 02:55:04.510 doesn't mean that districts don't have to teach us. 02:55:04.510 --> 02:55:06.786 We don't have to use instruction material. 02:55:06.786 --> 02:55:08.020 They do have to find something else. 02:55:08.020 --> 02:55:10.610 I have not in all my time, working with this, 02:55:10.610 --> 02:55:14.190 found any other book that even comes close 02:55:14.190 --> 02:55:17.860 to aligning to the TEKS that this body developed 02:55:17.860 --> 02:55:21.380 a year ago than this book that we're developing right now. 02:55:21.380 --> 02:55:25.790 And there are other textbooks out there that cover health 02:55:26.640 --> 02:55:28.910 from other states, California, New York. 02:55:28.910 --> 02:55:32.600 There are other books out there that other states use 02:55:32.600 --> 02:55:34.670 that districts can go to. 02:55:34.670 --> 02:55:39.670 Or I think also that we can give them the best opportunity 02:55:39.960 --> 02:55:44.780 we have to adopt the TEKS that we have found that's best 02:55:44.780 --> 02:55:47.670 for the students of the state of Texas. 02:55:47.670 --> 02:55:48.800 We voted on Tuesday. 02:55:48.800 --> 02:55:50.950 There's been some changes that have been alluded to, 02:55:50.950 --> 02:55:52.840 but I wanna bring out some specific things 02:55:52.840 --> 02:55:56.870 that have changed since we met and voted on this earlier, 02:55:56.870 --> 02:55:59.570 that the publisher of Goodheart has made. 02:55:59.570 --> 02:56:02.550 They have specifically made assurances that students 02:56:02.550 --> 02:56:04.980 are directed to speak with a parent or other trusted adult 02:56:04.980 --> 02:56:08.220 to make sure that the parent was brought into the discussion 02:56:08.220 --> 02:56:10.800 wherever that may have been left out before. 02:56:10.800 --> 02:56:13.320 So that was throughout the text. 02:56:13.320 --> 02:56:17.600 We removed the discussion in reference to the HIV treatment. 02:56:17.600 --> 02:56:20.310 Significantly revised content about condom's relationship 02:56:20.310 --> 02:56:22.970 to sexually transmitted infections. 02:56:22.970 --> 02:56:25.610 Revised content that may have suggested that condoms 02:56:25.610 --> 02:56:28.230 we as effective as abstinence. 02:56:28.230 --> 02:56:30.900 And specifically, we talked about this one earlier. 02:56:30.900 --> 02:56:34.090 It previously stated, "Two of the most effective methods 02:56:34.090 --> 02:56:37.079 for preventing STIs include sexual abstinence 02:56:37.079 --> 02:56:37.912 and the use of condoms." 02:56:37.912 --> 02:56:40.487 The publisher now has this sentence reading, 02:56:40.487 --> 02:56:42.310 "Sexual abstinence is the most effective method 02:56:42.310 --> 02:56:43.970 for preventing STIs. 02:56:43.970 --> 02:56:46.480 The use of condoms can also reduce risk." 02:56:46.480 --> 02:56:48.210 Deleted the phrase, "Assigned from birth 02:56:48.210 --> 02:56:50.500 from the definition of biological sex." 02:56:50.500 --> 02:56:52.210 Revising activity and what's the students 02:56:52.210 --> 02:56:53.450 diagnosed mental illnesses. 02:56:53.450 --> 02:56:56.250 I had a lot of, my communications with specifically, 02:56:56.250 --> 02:56:57.697 not just about the sex education, 02:56:57.697 --> 02:57:00.000 but also about mental illnesses. 02:57:00.000 --> 02:57:02.370 So this publisher revised activity 02:57:02.370 --> 02:57:04.282 and what students diagnosed mental illness, 02:57:04.282 --> 02:57:05.410 or share information about mental health with their peers 02:57:05.410 --> 02:57:07.450 to ensure students have the right to privacy 02:57:07.450 --> 02:57:09.770 and are not acting as health professionals. 02:57:09.770 --> 02:57:12.350 So wherever the book stood, when we voted on Tuesday, 02:57:12.350 --> 02:57:16.010 I think there's even been a more significant improvement 02:57:16.010 --> 02:57:21.010 that leaves us in a place to provide the students of Texas 02:57:21.180 --> 02:57:25.850 in a course that is required in certain grades 02:57:25.850 --> 02:57:27.750 that we're dealing with here. 02:57:27.750 --> 02:57:30.750 And provides them the best instruction material we can 02:57:33.105 --> 02:57:35.690 to learn the TEKS that we expect of them. 02:57:35.690 --> 02:57:39.270 So those are some additional things I wanted to bring up. 02:57:39.270 --> 02:57:40.103 Ms. Perez-Diaz. 02:57:41.250 --> 02:57:42.530 This question is for staff. 02:57:42.530 --> 02:57:47.510 So for clarification, Goodheart-Willcox, 02:57:47.510 --> 02:57:49.110 what grade levels do they cover? 02:57:53.400 --> 02:57:56.540 They have materials for health grade six, 02:57:56.540 --> 02:57:59.892 health seven, eight, and health one and two, 02:57:59.892 --> 02:58:02.224 as well as one high school PE course. 02:58:02.224 --> 02:58:03.057 Health one and two, okay. 02:58:03.057 --> 02:58:07.800 So I would argue that while this is quality material 02:58:10.080 --> 02:58:11.880 in terms of alignment with our standards, 02:58:11.880 --> 02:58:16.880 we just voted down an elementary potential resource 02:58:17.550 --> 02:58:22.550 that also meets 100% of the TEKS standards. 02:58:23.040 --> 02:58:25.460 So my question for staff now is, we've been talking to. 02:58:25.460 --> 02:58:27.439 Ms. Perez-Diaz, just wanna make sure 02:58:27.439 --> 02:58:28.619 that we stayed to the Goodheart-Willcox. 02:58:28.619 --> 02:58:29.452 Right. 02:58:29.452 --> 02:58:32.443 But I guess I have to know this because moving forward, 02:58:32.443 --> 02:58:34.180 we need to be able to provide guidance for our districts. 02:58:34.180 --> 02:58:37.650 What are elementary schools to do now 02:58:37.650 --> 02:58:41.760 because we don't have a material like Goodheart-Willcox? 02:58:41.760 --> 02:58:44.260 Ms. Perez-Diaz, I don't think that question is in order. 02:58:44.260 --> 02:58:45.910 We're not discussing anything 02:58:45.910 --> 02:58:47.670 other than the Goodheart book right now. 02:58:47.670 --> 02:58:49.680 Which doesn't cover those grades. 02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:52.190 Okay, well, I mean, that's a great point. 02:58:52.190 --> 02:58:55.160 There's nothing that covers those grades, so. 02:58:55.160 --> 02:58:57.987 You can work with staff offline to answer that question. 02:58:57.987 --> 02:58:59.590 Any other questions from members? 02:58:59.590 --> 02:59:00.640 Any other discussion? 02:59:01.960 --> 02:59:03.460 You're ready to take the vote? 02:59:04.660 --> 02:59:09.660 So, I would ask all those in favor of approving the motion, 02:59:09.760 --> 02:59:11.163 show by raising your hand. 02:59:12.310 --> 02:59:13.143 I'm sorry. 02:59:14.920 --> 02:59:18.173 All those in favor of the motion, show by raising your hand. 02:59:21.100 --> 02:59:22.313 Please lower your hands. 02:59:23.530 --> 02:59:25.280 All those opposed by the same sign. 02:59:28.790 --> 02:59:31.483 There are 10 in favor and three opposed. 02:59:32.330 --> 02:59:33.720 The motion carries. 02:59:33.720 --> 02:59:34.753 Motion is adopted. 02:59:35.800 --> 02:59:37.180 Got that? Thank you. 02:59:40.168 --> 02:59:42.168 Members, let me get my script back up. 02:59:53.050 --> 02:59:53.883 Okay. 02:59:53.883 --> 02:59:55.880 I believe we are now on item number four, 02:59:55.880 --> 02:59:58.210 which is the consideration of amendments 02:59:58.210 --> 02:59:59.960 to the Texas Certificate 02:59:59.960 --> 03:00:01.470 of High school Equivalency Contracts. 03:00:01.470 --> 03:00:04.523 It's an on your agenda exhibit I-5, calling Ms. Little. 03:00:05.890 --> 03:00:07.750 Mr. Chair, the Committee of the Full Board 03:00:07.750 --> 03:00:10.560 recommends that the State Board of Education approve 03:00:10.560 --> 03:00:13.380 the GED testing services request 03:00:13.380 --> 03:00:16.520 for a contract amendment to increase pricing 03:00:16.520 --> 03:00:19.183 for the GED ready practice test. 03:00:21.690 --> 03:00:23.221 Members, you've heard the motion. 03:00:23.221 --> 03:00:24.221 Is there any debate? 03:00:26.100 --> 03:00:27.810 I just wanna point this out from members of the public, 03:00:27.810 --> 03:00:29.523 they weren't here the other day, 03:00:29.523 --> 03:00:33.181 we're talking an increase of 99 cents to what it was before. 03:00:33.181 --> 03:00:35.350 $6 to $6.99. 03:00:35.350 --> 03:00:38.353 Any further debate on this item, is there any objection? 03:00:39.750 --> 03:00:41.960 Hearing none, the motion carries. 03:00:41.960 --> 03:00:42.930 Actually let me restate that. 03:00:42.930 --> 03:00:44.230 There is majority in favor 03:00:45.081 --> 03:00:46.440 and the recommendation is adopted. 03:00:46.440 --> 03:00:51.440 Number five is proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 127, 03:00:52.210 --> 03:00:53.980 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for career development, 03:00:53.980 --> 03:00:55.810 Subchapter G, education training, 03:00:55.810 --> 03:00:56.990 Subchapter I, health science, 03:00:56.990 --> 03:00:58.500 Subchapter J, hospitality and tourism, 03:00:58.500 --> 03:00:59.940 Subchapter M, law and public service, 03:00:59.940 --> 03:01:03.000 Subchapter O, science, technology, engineering and math. 03:01:03.000 --> 03:01:04.640 Second reading, final adoption. 03:01:04.640 --> 03:01:06.940 It's in your agenda and I have 54, Ms. Little. 03:01:09.553 --> 03:01:11.677 Mr. Chair, the committee-- Microphone. 03:01:13.370 --> 03:01:15.210 Mr. Chair, the Committee of the Full Board 03:01:15.210 --> 03:01:17.740 recommends that State Board of Education 03:01:18.750 --> 03:01:21.450 approve for second reading and final adoption 03:01:21.450 --> 03:01:25.577 proposed new 19 Texas administration code Chapter 127. 03:01:27.130 --> 03:01:30.090 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for career development, 03:01:30.090 --> 03:01:33.270 Subchapter G, education and training. 03:01:33.270 --> 03:01:38.270 Section 127.315, 127.316, 127.319, through 127.321. 03:01:43.330 --> 03:01:48.330 And 127.324 through 127.326. 03:01:48.550 --> 03:01:52.060 Subchapter I, health science. 03:01:52.060 --> 03:01:57.060 Section 127.417 through section 127.433. 03:01:59.740 --> 03:02:03.670 Subchapter J, hospitality and tourism. 03:02:03.670 --> 03:02:08.670 Section 127.48 and 127.482. 03:02:09.010 --> 03:02:12.020 Subchapter M, law in public service. 03:02:12.020 --> 03:02:14.473 Section 127.652. 03:02:15.760 --> 03:02:16.950 And Subchapter O, 03:02:16.950 --> 03:02:19.730 science, technology engineering and mathematics. 03:02:19.730 --> 03:02:24.210 Section 127.777 through 127.782. 03:02:26.223 --> 03:02:28.763 And 127.785 through 127.787 as amended. 03:02:32.320 --> 03:02:35.060 And approve the withdrawal 03:02:35.060 --> 03:02:39.690 of proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 127, 03:02:39.690 --> 03:02:43.260 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for career development, 03:02:43.260 --> 03:02:46.550 Subchapter I, health science. 03:02:46.550 --> 03:02:49.740 Section 127.416. 03:02:49.740 --> 03:02:52.460 Implementation of Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 03:02:52.460 --> 03:02:56.590 for health science adopted 2021. 03:02:56.590 --> 03:03:00.056 Subchapter M, law and public services. 03:03:00.056 --> 03:03:02.230 Section 127.651. 03:03:02.230 --> 03:03:05.020 Implementation of Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 03:03:05.020 --> 03:03:08.840 for law and public service, adopted 2021. 03:03:08.840 --> 03:03:09.980 And Subchapter O, 03:03:09.980 --> 03:03:13.030 science technology, engineering and mathematics. 03:03:13.030 --> 03:03:15.980 Section 127.788. 03:03:15.980 --> 03:03:18.000 Fundamentals of computer science. 03:03:18.000 --> 03:03:20.900 One credit adopted 2021. 03:03:20.900 --> 03:03:25.500 Section 127.789, computer science one. 03:03:25.500 --> 03:03:28.390 One credit adopted 2021. 03:03:28.390 --> 03:03:31.110 Section 127.790. 03:03:31.110 --> 03:03:35.850 Computer science two, one credit adopted 2021. 03:03:35.850 --> 03:03:40.740 And section 127.791 computer science three, 03:03:40.740 --> 03:03:43.183 one credit adopted 2021. 03:03:44.410 --> 03:03:48.660 And make an affirmative finding 03:03:48.660 --> 03:03:52.703 that immediate adoption of the proposed new 19. 03:03:53.890 --> 03:03:57.151 And make an affirmative finding that the immediate adoption 03:03:57.151 --> 03:04:00.580 of the proposed 19 TAC Chapter 127, 03:04:00.580 --> 03:04:03.770 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Career Development. 03:04:03.770 --> 03:04:07.060 Subchapter G, education and training. 03:04:07.060 --> 03:04:11.000 Section 127.315, section 127.316, 03:04:12.620 --> 03:04:16.980 section 127.319 through section 127.321. 03:04:18.430 --> 03:04:23.110 And section 127.324 through section 127.326. 03:04:24.630 --> 03:04:29.280 Subchapter I, health science section 127.41 through 127.433. 03:04:32.350 --> 03:04:35.310 Subchapter J, hospitality and tourism. 03:04:35.310 --> 03:04:40.053 Section 127.481 and section 127.482. 03:04:40.053 --> 03:04:43.263 Subchapter M, law in public service. 03:04:44.290 --> 03:04:46.630 Section 127.652. 03:04:46.630 --> 03:04:48.030 And Subchapter O, 03:04:48.030 --> 03:04:51.090 science, technology, engineering and mathematics. 03:04:51.090 --> 03:04:55.267 Section 127.777, section 127.782 03:04:56.680 --> 03:05:01.680 and section 127.785 through 127.787 03:05:01.920 --> 03:05:04.700 is necessary and shall have an effective date 03:05:04.700 --> 03:05:08.463 of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register. 03:05:13.400 --> 03:05:14.763 Good job, Pam. 03:05:15.640 --> 03:05:16.473 All right. 03:05:16.473 --> 03:05:17.980 Do we have some amendments? 03:05:17.980 --> 03:05:18.813 Mr. Maynard. 03:05:20.880 --> 03:05:24.793 Mr. Chairman, the amendment 03:05:24.793 --> 03:05:26.530 that I'm presenting has to do 03:05:26.530 --> 03:05:31.530 with the prerequisites document. 03:05:31.960 --> 03:05:34.710 And that prerequisite document, my understanding really 03:05:36.110 --> 03:05:38.160 was sort of a late addition and really didn't have 03:05:38.160 --> 03:05:41.130 the opportunity to get a full public vetting. 03:05:41.130 --> 03:05:44.990 And so we did run that past some of our CTE folks 03:05:46.037 --> 03:05:47.430 and we do have a recommendation, 03:05:47.430 --> 03:05:48.950 but it's my understanding 03:05:48.950 --> 03:05:51.280 that we'll need to suspend the rules. 03:05:51.280 --> 03:05:54.240 And so Mr. Chairman, 03:05:54.240 --> 03:05:59.240 I move that we suspend rule number 5.7 related to amendments 03:06:01.060 --> 03:06:03.740 on second reading and file an adoption. 03:06:03.740 --> 03:06:05.550 Is there any objections? 03:06:05.550 --> 03:06:07.267 Hearing none, so moved. 03:06:07.267 --> 03:06:12.160 Mr. Chairman, I've passed this out and I move to amend 03:06:14.030 --> 03:06:19.030 the motion by inserting the language that I passed here. 03:06:22.220 --> 03:06:26.307 Striking the language that at least one credit, 03:06:26.307 --> 03:06:28.860 and this has to do with forensic science, by the way. 03:06:28.860 --> 03:06:30.793 This is forensic science. 03:06:31.650 --> 03:06:33.640 In striking the language that "At least one credit 03:06:33.640 --> 03:06:35.830 in level two or higher from the law enforcement 03:06:35.830 --> 03:06:38.890 for law and public safety career cluster" 03:06:38.890 --> 03:06:42.300 and inserting, "Integrated physics 03:06:42.300 --> 03:06:43.927 and chemistry or physics." 03:06:46.956 --> 03:06:48.060 Second. 03:06:48.060 --> 03:06:49.815 If I can speak to the motion. 03:06:49.815 --> 03:06:51.296 We have a motion and a second, go ahead. 03:06:51.296 --> 03:06:52.380 And my understanding 03:06:52.380 --> 03:06:55.980 is that, forensic science has typically 03:06:55.980 --> 03:06:59.820 been part of the program of study in law enforcement. 03:06:59.820 --> 03:07:01.240 But as it turns out, 03:07:01.240 --> 03:07:03.410 a lot of school districts use forensic science 03:07:03.410 --> 03:07:05.793 in other programs of study 03:07:05.793 --> 03:07:09.180 or they'll even use it as a standalone science. 03:07:09.180 --> 03:07:14.180 And by limiting, by putting it very restrictive prerequisite 03:07:16.700 --> 03:07:20.950 from that law and public safety career cluster pathway, 03:07:22.790 --> 03:07:24.920 then it will keep some school districts 03:07:24.920 --> 03:07:26.460 from offering forensic science 03:07:26.460 --> 03:07:28.660 as a standalone or another applications. 03:07:28.660 --> 03:07:31.060 And so this will add some flexibility 03:07:31.060 --> 03:07:34.380 and actually, it's my understanding 03:07:34.380 --> 03:07:36.760 that the courses now that we've named here 03:07:36.760 --> 03:07:40.340 will actually give enough knowledge and skill for them 03:07:40.340 --> 03:07:42.763 to succeed in forensic science. 03:07:45.590 --> 03:07:47.740 Any other further debate on that? 03:07:52.385 --> 03:07:55.300 All right, we're ready for the vote. 03:07:55.300 --> 03:07:57.570 All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 03:07:57.570 --> 03:07:59.763 All those opposed, say no. 03:08:00.620 --> 03:08:01.593 Motion carries. 03:08:04.151 --> 03:08:06.488 We can just back to the main motion, right? 03:08:06.488 --> 03:08:07.321 Do you have any other amendment? 03:08:07.321 --> 03:08:08.420 Ms. Davis, you have some? 03:08:10.370 --> 03:08:11.670 And I've passed mine now. 03:08:11.670 --> 03:08:15.370 I just have a few about the education and training strand. 03:08:15.370 --> 03:08:17.650 Just to make sure that they're aligned with best practices 03:08:17.650 --> 03:08:19.683 and TEA initiatives. 03:08:23.510 --> 03:08:26.933 The first one is with principles of education and training. 03:08:27.970 --> 03:08:29.683 I propose a new 8D. 03:08:31.050 --> 03:08:34.070 Analyze positive behavior intervention techniques, 03:08:34.070 --> 03:08:36.323 including restorative practices. 03:08:40.089 --> 03:08:43.203 Can we consider all these as a package? 03:08:46.872 --> 03:08:49.122 I've got no objection (indistinct). 03:08:53.380 --> 03:08:55.133 I turned it yesterday on time. 03:08:56.184 --> 03:09:00.101 (woman speaking indistinctly) 03:09:03.440 --> 03:09:06.140 Would you like for me to just go over all of them at once 03:09:06.140 --> 03:09:07.883 to make it clear, Member Hickman? 03:09:09.494 --> 03:09:10.560 Would that be okay? 03:09:10.560 --> 03:09:15.200 Okay, so for 8E, I actually had the honor to write that one 03:09:16.447 --> 03:09:19.030 with excuse me, Dr. Young. 03:09:19.030 --> 03:09:21.890 And this is making sure that our teachers know how to handle 03:09:21.890 --> 03:09:23.860 a classroom that will have a lot of different types 03:09:23.860 --> 03:09:25.240 of learners in it. 03:09:25.240 --> 03:09:27.740 So develop a differentiated lesson plan 03:09:27.740 --> 03:09:30.860 that includes scaffolding for all levels of learners. 03:09:30.860 --> 03:09:32.230 And we wanted to make sure our teachers 03:09:32.230 --> 03:09:33.860 had some sort of experience 03:09:33.860 --> 03:09:36.380 developing a lesson plan where they really had 03:09:36.380 --> 03:09:39.280 to be intentional about their students with special needs. 03:09:40.480 --> 03:09:43.940 4D, again, that's an agency initiative. 03:09:43.940 --> 03:09:47.440 The agency has Texas Project Restore 03:09:47.440 --> 03:09:49.180 about trauma-informed training, 03:09:49.180 --> 03:09:50.570 especially now with COVID, 03:09:50.570 --> 03:09:53.820 we want our future educators to be able to handle students 03:09:53.820 --> 03:09:56.710 and whatever it is they come into our classrooms with. 03:09:56.710 --> 03:10:01.100 So as identify and discuss adverse childhood experiences 03:10:01.100 --> 03:10:02.870 and their potential impact. 03:10:02.870 --> 03:10:05.540 And the last one is just making sure 03:10:05.540 --> 03:10:10.183 that we include emphasis on numeracy as well as literacy. 03:10:28.264 --> 03:10:29.901 I have my microphone off. 03:10:29.901 --> 03:10:31.503 (indistinct) asked if there's any objection, 03:10:31.503 --> 03:10:32.820 there was none in the motion carried. 03:10:32.820 --> 03:10:34.370 Alright, hold on just a second. 03:10:38.560 --> 03:10:39.393 Okay. 03:10:40.310 --> 03:10:41.143 We are now. 03:10:42.992 --> 03:10:44.947 Dr. Bell-Metereau (indistinct). 03:10:44.947 --> 03:10:47.035 Dr. Bell-Metereau 03:10:47.035 --> 03:10:48.453 I would like to just ask 03:10:48.453 --> 03:10:50.423 the parliamentarian a question. 03:10:52.070 --> 03:10:53.923 Can you hear me? Yes. 03:10:55.420 --> 03:11:00.040 Is there any parliamentary means 03:11:00.040 --> 03:11:03.580 of returning to see if anyone 03:11:03.580 --> 03:11:07.623 might have changed their mind about Quaver? 03:11:12.230 --> 03:11:15.230 So the chairman has turned to me, 03:11:15.230 --> 03:11:16.940 which means that he, I believe 03:11:16.940 --> 03:11:19.080 would like for me to fill this one. 03:11:19.080 --> 03:11:21.940 The motion that could be made at this point 03:11:21.940 --> 03:11:24.460 is the motion to reconsider. 03:11:24.460 --> 03:11:27.560 It must be made at the same meeting or in meetings 03:11:27.560 --> 03:11:31.140 of more than one day, the next day. 03:11:31.140 --> 03:11:36.103 So it's got a fairly short shelf life and to prevent abuse. 03:11:37.480 --> 03:11:40.790 Roberts requires that the person who makes the motion 03:11:40.790 --> 03:11:45.340 to reconsider must've voted on the prevailing side 03:11:45.340 --> 03:11:46.950 of the prior motion. 03:11:46.950 --> 03:11:51.950 And Roberts requires that as a way of ensuring 03:11:52.900 --> 03:11:56.220 that there is a possibility of a different outcome. 03:11:56.220 --> 03:12:00.430 So the motion to reconsider could be made, 03:12:00.430 --> 03:12:04.080 but must be made by someone who did not vote 03:12:04.920 --> 03:12:08.340 in favor of the original adoption of Quaver. 03:12:08.340 --> 03:12:12.760 There is no other path back to that at this meeting 03:12:12.760 --> 03:12:15.330 Chairman, I don't think y'all finished 03:12:15.330 --> 03:12:16.943 the current item. 03:12:17.830 --> 03:12:21.410 So if we could just get that final vote on Chapter 127, 03:12:21.410 --> 03:12:22.850 we'd appreciate it. 03:12:22.850 --> 03:12:26.120 So just to clarify, we did the amendment. 03:12:26.120 --> 03:12:29.580 Now we need to as amended, okay. 03:12:29.580 --> 03:12:31.530 So on our current item, 03:12:31.530 --> 03:12:34.913 is there any objection to the main motion as amended? 03:12:36.540 --> 03:12:39.183 Hearing none, the main motion as amended is adopted. 03:12:40.330 --> 03:12:41.970 I was just wondering if you could maybe restate 03:12:41.970 --> 03:12:43.683 the main motion for us. 03:12:43.683 --> 03:12:44.666 No. I'm just kidding. 03:12:44.666 --> 03:12:45.499 (laughter) 03:12:45.499 --> 03:12:47.443 Not today. (laughs) 03:12:49.426 --> 03:12:52.450 (woman speaking indistinctly) 03:12:52.450 --> 03:12:54.320 All right, I believe now we're in items, 03:12:54.320 --> 03:12:55.900 okay, nope, actually. 03:12:55.900 --> 03:12:57.620 We were still just having a discussion there. 03:12:57.620 --> 03:13:00.980 So you gave your clarification. 03:13:00.980 --> 03:13:03.680 The only scenario is if someone made a motion to reconsider 03:13:03.680 --> 03:13:05.690 who was on the prevailing side. 03:13:05.690 --> 03:13:06.523 Okay? 03:13:08.910 --> 03:13:10.410 Any further questions on that? 03:13:11.510 --> 03:13:12.343 Ms. Davis. 03:13:13.241 --> 03:13:14.640 I have a clarifying question. 03:13:14.640 --> 03:13:18.510 So Goodheart was secondary and Quaver was elementary, right? 03:13:18.510 --> 03:13:20.420 So right now, there is nothing for elementary, 03:13:20.420 --> 03:13:22.760 but we have something for secondary, right? 03:13:22.760 --> 03:13:24.160 Okay, I'm just making clear. 03:13:26.080 --> 03:13:27.180 Okay. 03:13:27.180 --> 03:13:29.350 Hearing nothing else, we'll go on to item number six. 03:13:29.350 --> 03:13:31.690 Proposed appeal of 19 TAC Chapter 130. 03:13:31.690 --> 03:13:33.793 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 03:13:33.793 --> 03:13:35.354 for Career and Technical Education. 03:13:35.354 --> 03:13:36.750 Am I on the right one? 03:13:36.750 --> 03:13:37.770 Okay. 03:13:37.770 --> 03:13:41.490 Subchapter E, 130.161 to 130.66. 03:13:41.490 --> 03:13:44.250 Subchapter G, 130.201 to 130.211. 03:13:44.250 --> 03:13:47.550 Subchapter H, 130.221 to 234. 03:13:47.550 --> 03:13:50.190 Subchapter I, 130.251 to 263. 03:13:50.190 --> 03:13:53.770 Subchapter L, 133.31 to 133.43. 03:13:53.770 --> 03:13:57.120 Subchapter O, 134.1 to 134.35. 03:13:57.120 --> 03:13:59.310 And proposed new 19 the Chapter 127 03:13:59.310 --> 03:14:01.630 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Career Development. 03:14:01.630 --> 03:14:06.630 Subchapter G, 127.309 to 127.314. 03:14:06.880 --> 03:14:10.600 Subchapter I, 127.402 to 127.415. 03:14:10.600 --> 03:14:13.970 Subchapter J, 127.468 to 127.480. 03:14:13.970 --> 03:14:16.790 Subchapter M, 127.625 to 648. 03:14:16.790 --> 03:14:21.403 And Subchapter O, 127.742 to 776. 03:14:21.403 --> 03:14:23.000 This is first reading and following authorization. 03:14:23.000 --> 03:14:26.223 Some pages, I-189 in your agenda, Ms. Little. 03:14:28.020 --> 03:14:29.810 Mr. Chair, the Committee of the Full Board 03:14:29.810 --> 03:14:32.620 recommends that the State Board of Education 03:14:32.620 --> 03:14:35.773 approve what you just said. (laughs) 03:14:36.700 --> 03:14:38.094 Can I do it that way? 03:14:38.094 --> 03:14:39.051 Yes, you can. 03:14:39.051 --> 03:14:39.960 There is no objection. 03:14:39.960 --> 03:14:40.793 You can do anything. 03:14:40.793 --> 03:14:42.450 As long as everyone understands 03:14:42.450 --> 03:14:43.950 what the motion is before you. 03:14:43.950 --> 03:14:45.520 My motion is to approve 03:14:45.520 --> 03:14:48.297 what the chair just moved. 03:14:48.297 --> 03:14:50.547 (laughter) 03:14:54.480 --> 03:14:56.370 Any further discussion? 03:14:56.370 --> 03:14:57.912 Hearing none. 03:14:57.912 --> 03:14:59.070 Is there any objection? 03:14:59.070 --> 03:15:01.370 Hearing none, the motion carries. 03:15:01.370 --> 03:15:04.960 We are now on item number seven. 03:15:04.960 --> 03:15:07.180 Which is update on Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills 03:15:07.180 --> 03:15:08.790 in TEKS review. 03:15:08.790 --> 03:15:11.490 The agenda exhibit I-213. 03:15:11.490 --> 03:15:12.930 Ms. Little. 03:15:12.930 --> 03:15:14.650 Mr. Chair, there was no action taken 03:15:14.650 --> 03:15:17.063 by the Committee of the Full Board on this item. 03:15:19.380 --> 03:15:21.250 Any other discussion on this item? 03:15:21.250 --> 03:15:22.850 Anything from staff on this one? 03:15:28.250 --> 03:15:31.457 All right, we are on item number eight now 03:15:31.457 --> 03:15:33.937 in Committee of Instruction. Ms. Melton-Malone. 03:15:33.937 --> 03:15:34.770 Are you ready? 03:15:34.770 --> 03:15:36.995 We're on number item number eight. 03:15:36.995 --> 03:15:39.830 Proposed approval of innovative courses on page 2-12 03:15:39.830 --> 03:15:41.320 of your agenda. 03:15:41.320 --> 03:15:42.550 The Committee on Instruction 03:15:42.550 --> 03:15:44.420 has no recommendations for the board 03:15:44.420 --> 03:15:46.250 because there were no innovative courses 03:15:46.250 --> 03:15:49.613 that were turned in prior to this meeting for us to vote on. 03:15:55.110 --> 03:15:55.943 Mr. Maynard, 03:15:55.943 --> 03:15:57.652 we're in the Committee of the School Finance, 03:15:57.652 --> 03:15:58.900 permanent school fund. 03:15:58.900 --> 03:15:59.860 You think you got for us? 03:15:59.860 --> 03:16:01.240 Sure, we don't have any extra items. 03:16:01.240 --> 03:16:04.550 Everything else was on what was on the consent. 03:16:04.550 --> 03:16:08.883 I will tell you that, but just briefly. 03:16:13.180 --> 03:16:15.120 We did have a little bit of a discussion related 03:16:15.120 --> 03:16:19.160 to the bond guarantee program 03:16:19.160 --> 03:16:21.470 is that when we are going to run out of capacity 03:16:21.470 --> 03:16:22.700 and we think it's somewhere 03:16:22.700 --> 03:16:24.380 between two and two and a half years, 03:16:24.380 --> 03:16:26.009 and we're trying to work 03:16:26.009 --> 03:16:28.060 with the federal government to do that. 03:16:28.060 --> 03:16:31.160 Secondly is that just so everybody understands 03:16:32.393 --> 03:16:37.393 is that with the passage of the Certificate of Formation, 03:16:37.450 --> 03:16:40.880 hour hope that the corporation board 03:16:40.880 --> 03:16:44.130 will probably meet next month, early next month. 03:16:44.130 --> 03:16:46.190 We did have a conversation with the Governor's office 03:16:46.190 --> 03:16:48.830 in terms of their appointees. 03:16:48.830 --> 03:16:50.190 And hopefully that we get them online 03:16:50.190 --> 03:16:52.883 and we can move forward with that corporation. 03:16:54.310 --> 03:16:56.610 Ms. Cruz, we might need a parliamentarian, so. 03:16:57.673 --> 03:16:58.506 Okay. 03:16:59.592 --> 03:17:00.747 I'm available. All right. 03:17:00.747 --> 03:17:02.197 But that's all, Mr. Chairman. 03:17:04.470 --> 03:17:05.303 Got it. 03:17:07.610 --> 03:17:10.600 Dr. Robinson, we are now in the community school initiative. 03:17:10.600 --> 03:17:12.804 So I don't remember nine is approval 03:17:12.804 --> 03:17:14.280 of required school safety training for district trustees 03:17:14.280 --> 03:17:16.533 and page 4-14 of our agenda. 03:17:18.260 --> 03:17:20.560 All right, Mr. Chair, 03:17:20.560 --> 03:17:22.570 the committee on school initiatives recommends 03:17:22.570 --> 03:17:24.350 that the State Board of Education 03:17:24.350 --> 03:17:26.890 approve the school safety training curriculum materials 03:17:26.890 --> 03:17:29.363 developed by the Texas School Safety Center. 03:17:34.871 --> 03:17:38.950 Is there any further debate or discussion on this one? 03:17:38.950 --> 03:17:40.980 Was there any, Ms. Davis? 03:17:40.980 --> 03:17:43.590 I just wanna take time to thank the school Safety Center 03:17:43.590 --> 03:17:47.120 and Sergeant Sheldon Smith from Dallas for coming together 03:17:47.120 --> 03:17:50.220 to make an awesome training for our trustees. 03:17:50.220 --> 03:17:53.170 I'm excited that they'll have access to this resource, 03:17:53.170 --> 03:17:54.510 especially with everything going on 03:17:54.510 --> 03:17:56.200 in keeping our kids safe. 03:17:56.200 --> 03:17:58.980 So I'm appreciative for the whole process, 03:17:58.980 --> 03:18:01.250 but Sergeant Sheldon Smith, 03:18:01.250 --> 03:18:02.480 thank you so much for the difference you've made 03:18:02.480 --> 03:18:04.683 in making sure our kids are safe. 03:18:08.610 --> 03:18:11.270 Mr. Chairman, during our committee meeting, 03:18:11.270 --> 03:18:14.310 we also heard testimony about maybe making some changes 03:18:14.310 --> 03:18:15.910 and I understand School Safety Center 03:18:15.910 --> 03:18:18.010 may be proposing some changes 03:18:18.010 --> 03:18:20.120 and I'm open to reviewing those. 03:18:20.120 --> 03:18:24.310 But for now, I'm voting to approve them as is. 03:18:24.310 --> 03:18:25.670 And if and when changes come, 03:18:25.670 --> 03:18:27.813 we could consider them at a future meeting. 03:18:31.240 --> 03:18:33.180 One of the recommendations that I made directly 03:18:33.180 --> 03:18:34.370 to the School Safety Center 03:18:34.370 --> 03:18:37.660 was to make sure that they include students 03:18:37.660 --> 03:18:41.950 who are mobility impaired in their training as well. 03:18:41.950 --> 03:18:43.610 And to include those at the time, 03:18:43.610 --> 03:18:46.900 that was not part of what they were designing. 03:18:46.900 --> 03:18:49.267 I would like to see, in the future 03:18:49.267 --> 03:18:52.470 once they have completed all of it, 03:18:52.470 --> 03:18:57.470 that they also include school safety for students 03:18:57.960 --> 03:18:59.603 who have special needs. 03:19:05.404 --> 03:19:09.583 Just if I may clarify, Dr. Young, are you, 03:19:11.050 --> 03:19:13.680 so Mr. Hickman indicated in the next version 03:19:13.680 --> 03:19:15.920 of the training that he was willing, 03:19:15.920 --> 03:19:16.753 is that what you're talking about as well? 03:19:16.753 --> 03:19:18.300 Okay. 03:19:18.300 --> 03:19:19.133 Yes ma'am. 03:19:19.133 --> 03:19:22.220 They hadn't previously planned on that specificity 03:19:22.220 --> 03:19:24.470 in their training, but they did see 03:19:24.470 --> 03:19:26.260 that there's a need for that in the future. 03:19:26.260 --> 03:19:28.560 And so I would like to see that in the future. 03:19:31.040 --> 03:19:31.873 Good stuff. 03:19:34.320 --> 03:19:36.020 Any other discussion on this item? 03:19:37.070 --> 03:19:37.903 Any objection? 03:19:38.800 --> 03:19:40.563 Hearing none, the motion carries. 03:19:42.320 --> 03:19:45.943 Item number 10 is review of proposed amendments 03:19:45.943 --> 03:19:47.200 in 19 TAC Chapter 229. 03:19:47.200 --> 03:19:50.070 Accountability system for educator preparation programs. 03:19:50.070 --> 03:19:52.390 On your agenda 4-16. 03:19:52.390 --> 03:19:53.370 Dr. Robinson. 03:19:53.370 --> 03:19:54.832 Mr. Chair, 03:19:54.832 --> 03:19:56.130 the Committee on School Initiatives recommends 03:19:56.130 --> 03:19:59.744 that the State Board of Education take no action 03:19:59.744 --> 03:20:03.090 on the proposed amendments in 19 TAC Chapter 229 03:20:03.090 --> 03:20:06.433 accountability system for educator preparation programs. 03:20:09.810 --> 03:20:12.670 Is there any questions or any further discussion 03:20:12.670 --> 03:20:13.877 on this item? 03:20:13.877 --> 03:20:15.660 Mr. Davis. 03:20:15.660 --> 03:20:18.480 Just a little bit about why we chose to take no action. 03:20:18.480 --> 03:20:23.480 They were asking to have a waiver of giving the ASVAB. 03:20:23.680 --> 03:20:26.340 But you do have to come in person to take the star. 03:20:26.340 --> 03:20:28.060 And there are several other tests you do have 03:20:28.060 --> 03:20:29.680 to come in person to take. 03:20:29.680 --> 03:20:31.440 So we couldn't figure out a reason 03:20:31.440 --> 03:20:34.250 why they would not want to give ASVAB to their students. 03:20:34.250 --> 03:20:36.570 And we had a discussion on whether or not the ASVAB 03:20:36.570 --> 03:20:39.090 would still be available to those students 03:20:39.090 --> 03:20:40.816 if the school didn't give it. 03:20:40.816 --> 03:20:42.353 So that's why we chose to take no action. 03:20:43.190 --> 03:20:45.373 Chairman. Ms. Martinez. 03:20:45.373 --> 03:20:46.770 Just to clarify. 03:20:46.770 --> 03:20:51.085 What Ms. Davis was referencing was the item 03:20:51.085 --> 03:20:54.548 on the applicability I think. 03:20:54.548 --> 03:20:55.634 And this one is the. 03:20:55.634 --> 03:20:56.538 (man speaking indistinctly) 03:20:56.538 --> 03:20:57.371 Yeah. 03:20:57.371 --> 03:20:58.702 Is that coming up or did we already get past it? 03:20:58.702 --> 03:21:03.260 So that one was actually a discussion. 03:21:03.260 --> 03:21:05.850 If the committee wanted to bring that forward, 03:21:05.850 --> 03:21:08.960 we would bring a rule item at a future meeting. 03:21:08.960 --> 03:21:11.730 But I think the majority of the members 03:21:11.730 --> 03:21:13.660 of the committee did not agree 03:21:13.660 --> 03:21:16.310 that that rule item needed to come forward. 03:21:16.310 --> 03:21:18.410 I think that was the discussion 03:21:18.410 --> 03:21:23.203 of that particular item as Ms. Davis just discussed. 03:21:25.810 --> 03:21:26.997 Okay. 03:21:26.997 --> 03:21:28.403 So any other discussion on that one? 03:21:32.097 --> 03:21:33.507 All right. 03:21:33.507 --> 03:21:35.740 Is there any objection? 03:21:35.740 --> 03:21:37.483 Hearing none, the motion carries, 03:21:38.350 --> 03:21:40.513 I believe that's the end of the agenda. 03:21:41.417 --> 03:21:42.630 Am I correct? 03:21:42.630 --> 03:21:43.463 All right, members. 03:21:43.463 --> 03:21:45.313 This has been a long week. 03:21:46.210 --> 03:21:49.400 This has been a lot of work that was done. 03:21:49.400 --> 03:21:50.900 Just again, wanna thank everyone 03:21:50.900 --> 03:21:54.270 for their time and their commitment for what they do here. 03:21:54.270 --> 03:21:58.560 This is a time when we often just take a deep breath 03:21:58.560 --> 03:22:03.560 and get back to really have maybe some thoughts 03:22:03.810 --> 03:22:05.960 and discussions about what we all are. 03:22:05.960 --> 03:22:07.810 Just regular people and human beings 03:22:07.810 --> 03:22:09.410 and who we have in our lives 03:22:09.410 --> 03:22:11.980 outside of the heavy weight of the work that we do here. 03:22:11.980 --> 03:22:16.028 So we'll open this up for any positive comments 03:22:16.028 --> 03:22:20.949 of what's going on in your district and anything 03:22:20.949 --> 03:22:23.860 that's going on in your own families. 03:22:23.860 --> 03:22:24.693 Ms. Little. 03:22:25.640 --> 03:22:26.850 Well, next time you see me, 03:22:26.850 --> 03:22:31.130 I will have had another grand baby, a grand daughter. 03:22:31.130 --> 03:22:33.510 And even though it's my fourth grandchild, 03:22:33.510 --> 03:22:35.490 it's my first granddaughter. 03:22:35.490 --> 03:22:36.790 So we are so excited. 03:22:36.790 --> 03:22:39.510 She's due Monday. 03:22:39.510 --> 03:22:41.060 And you can I'm tearing up. 03:22:41.060 --> 03:22:42.907 I can't wait to see her. 03:22:46.470 --> 03:22:47.327 Ms. Hardy. 03:22:49.623 --> 03:22:51.950 You know, we always wonder 03:22:51.950 --> 03:22:56.950 if the credibility of the staff, the whole crew, you guys, 03:22:57.010 --> 03:23:00.802 but to have gotten this notebook out to us today. 03:23:00.802 --> 03:23:02.090 (woman speaking indistinctly) 03:23:02.090 --> 03:23:02.923 Huh? 03:23:03.831 --> 03:23:05.510 I don't think that came from them. 03:23:05.510 --> 03:23:06.580 Oh, how did it come? 03:23:06.580 --> 03:23:08.757 Well, they are quite in credibility though. 03:23:08.757 --> 03:23:10.340 (laughter) 03:23:10.340 --> 03:23:12.293 It came from another person. 03:23:14.670 --> 03:23:16.970 But the staff is very incredible. 03:23:16.970 --> 03:23:18.300 I thought my goodness. 03:23:18.300 --> 03:23:20.510 Say you've almost written a book out here 03:23:20.510 --> 03:23:22.275 and given it to us. 03:23:22.275 --> 03:23:23.733 They could've done it. 03:23:23.733 --> 03:23:24.691 They could've done it. 03:23:24.691 --> 03:23:28.028 I didn't doubt that you did it. (laughs) 03:23:28.028 --> 03:23:28.861 Ms. Perez. 03:23:30.187 --> 03:23:32.720 And thank you for going first, Ms. Little, 03:23:32.720 --> 03:23:35.300 because it makes everybody else's accomplishments 03:23:35.300 --> 03:23:38.243 so diminished. (laughs) 03:23:40.092 --> 03:23:44.683 Yours really is far better than anything I'm going to say. 03:23:45.600 --> 03:23:47.410 I did want to let my colleagues know 03:23:47.410 --> 03:23:50.540 that because of your support for my work here, 03:23:50.540 --> 03:23:51.550 I have two announcements. 03:23:51.550 --> 03:23:54.680 Number one, I have been selected to join 03:23:54.680 --> 03:23:57.230 the National Board of Directors 03:23:57.230 --> 03:23:59.630 of the Network for Public Education. 03:23:59.630 --> 03:24:03.650 And the National Association for State Boards of Education 03:24:03.650 --> 03:24:05.840 has asked me to develop their equity framework 03:24:05.840 --> 03:24:08.283 for all State Boards of Education. 03:24:09.466 --> 03:24:10.661 Thank you, all. 03:24:10.661 --> 03:24:11.494 (applause) 03:24:11.494 --> 03:24:12.327 Any others? 03:24:13.190 --> 03:24:14.430 Dr. Allen. 03:24:14.430 --> 03:24:17.410 District four will be celebrating a holiday this week. 03:24:17.410 --> 03:24:19.362 I think we call it Thanksgiving. 03:24:19.362 --> 03:24:20.195 (laughter) 03:24:20.195 --> 03:24:21.800 And I think we wanna celebrate 03:24:21.800 --> 03:24:24.140 that a number of families coming together for the first time 03:24:24.140 --> 03:24:25.593 in probably two years. 03:24:25.593 --> 03:24:27.560 So I just really wanted to wish each 03:24:27.560 --> 03:24:29.860 and every one of you all a happy Thanksgiving. 03:24:31.410 --> 03:24:32.640 Anything else? 03:24:32.640 --> 03:24:33.783 Well, Ms. Little. 03:24:36.400 --> 03:24:39.830 I became a grandmother on November 1st 03:24:39.830 --> 03:24:41.850 and this is our younger daughter 03:24:41.850 --> 03:24:46.202 who is a intensive care nurse. 03:24:46.202 --> 03:24:49.420 And she, toward the end of her pregnancy, 03:24:49.420 --> 03:24:52.050 got COVID even though she was fully vaccinated 03:24:52.050 --> 03:24:54.210 because of the clientele she works with, 03:24:54.210 --> 03:24:56.170 but she did not get a chance 03:24:56.170 --> 03:24:59.170 to get her sonogram at that point. 03:24:59.170 --> 03:25:01.250 And then when she finally got her sonogram, 03:25:01.250 --> 03:25:02.130 the baby was breached, 03:25:02.130 --> 03:25:04.680 just sitting there in the pelvis going, hmm. 03:25:04.680 --> 03:25:07.630 And so it was very nerve wracking 03:25:07.630 --> 03:25:10.150 when she was going into surgery 03:25:10.150 --> 03:25:12.961 because I was teaching my classes. 03:25:12.961 --> 03:25:15.090 And I kept thinking, okay, she should be going in now. 03:25:15.090 --> 03:25:17.560 And I'd check in and they'd say, no, it's delayed. 03:25:17.560 --> 03:25:18.660 Should be going in now. 03:25:18.660 --> 03:25:19.820 No, it's delayed. 03:25:19.820 --> 03:25:23.870 And finally right before my graduate class of the evening, 03:25:23.870 --> 03:25:25.880 they were going into surgery. 03:25:25.880 --> 03:25:30.350 So I did not hear until the very end of that day 03:25:30.350 --> 03:25:31.610 of that teaching day, 03:25:31.610 --> 03:25:35.090 that everything was okay and they're in great shape. 03:25:35.090 --> 03:25:38.020 And we went to visit that baby. 03:25:38.020 --> 03:25:41.050 And as any grandparent knows, 03:25:41.050 --> 03:25:45.660 it's just the most incredible experience. 03:25:45.660 --> 03:25:47.860 And I would probably crying now if I hadn't cried 03:25:47.860 --> 03:25:49.518 all the way through the concert. 03:25:49.518 --> 03:25:50.537 (laughter) 03:25:50.537 --> 03:25:52.650 So luckily, I had a mask to cover it up. 03:25:52.650 --> 03:25:53.814 Thank you. 03:25:53.814 --> 03:25:54.699 Ms. Davis. 03:25:54.699 --> 03:25:58.930 I just wanna say Dr. Bell-Metereau, Member Hickman, 03:25:58.930 --> 03:26:01.080 Dr. Young, it's been a year with y'all 03:26:01.080 --> 03:26:03.170 and it's been so awesome serving with you. 03:26:03.170 --> 03:26:05.870 Each of you, we've talked offline 03:26:05.870 --> 03:26:07.770 and I've learned so much from all of y'all. 03:26:07.770 --> 03:26:09.990 So I just wanna say it's been a fantastic year 03:26:09.990 --> 03:26:12.760 with each of you and welcome to the madness 03:26:12.760 --> 03:26:13.960 of the State Board of Education, 03:26:13.960 --> 03:26:15.930 but y'all have each done an amazing job. 03:26:15.930 --> 03:26:17.390 Oh, I'm sorry, Dr. Johnson. 03:26:17.390 --> 03:26:21.027 But you seem like you're been here forever. 03:26:21.027 --> 03:26:21.860 She's gonna say 03:26:21.860 --> 03:26:23.210 a whole separate thing just for you. 03:26:23.210 --> 03:26:24.180 Yes, yes. 03:26:24.180 --> 03:26:27.110 So I appreciate getting to know y'all 03:26:27.110 --> 03:26:28.669 and working with y'all. 03:26:28.669 --> 03:26:31.713 (man speaking indistinctly) 03:26:31.713 --> 03:26:33.560 You would have gotten appreciated 03:26:33.560 --> 03:26:34.893 if you weren't so mean. 03:26:35.828 --> 03:26:37.165 (laughs) 03:26:37.165 --> 03:26:38.123 I've been teasing him about that. 03:26:38.123 --> 03:26:39.530 Ms. David's might go pick up your dry cleaner 03:26:39.530 --> 03:26:40.430 for you this week. 03:26:42.570 --> 03:26:43.523 Dr. Robinson. 03:26:44.550 --> 03:26:46.910 I wanna commend and recognize 03:26:46.910 --> 03:26:48.990 our chair for doing in my opinion, 03:26:48.990 --> 03:26:52.390 exceptional job this week and working over time 03:26:52.390 --> 03:26:54.390 and navigating the difficult issue 03:26:54.390 --> 03:26:56.170 of instructional materials, thank you. 03:26:56.170 --> 03:26:57.003 Thank you, Dr. Robinson. 03:26:57.003 --> 03:26:58.250 I appreciate that. 03:26:58.250 --> 03:26:59.880 Anybody else before I give mine? 03:26:59.880 --> 03:27:00.820 And last but not least, 03:27:00.820 --> 03:27:03.390 I wanna let my member know that November the first 03:27:03.390 --> 03:27:05.400 is an excellent day to be born on 03:27:05.400 --> 03:27:08.163 because that's my birthday. (laughs) 03:27:11.130 --> 03:27:14.500 Well, and the next time we convene will be January. 03:27:14.500 --> 03:27:16.123 So I guess Merry Christmas is. 03:27:16.996 --> 03:27:18.303 And a happy new year. Happy new year. 03:27:18.303 --> 03:27:22.463 And all it is also Feliz Navidad is in order. 03:27:23.370 --> 03:27:25.389 We're all together in one place, at least. 03:27:25.389 --> 03:27:27.340 We might have a little meeting to take care of that. 03:27:27.340 --> 03:27:28.610 Anybody else? 03:27:28.610 --> 03:27:31.680 So I am going to give Dr. Bell-Metereau and Ms. Little 03:27:31.680 --> 03:27:33.592 a run for their money. 03:27:33.592 --> 03:27:34.712 I heard about that. 03:27:34.712 --> 03:27:35.545 Yes. 03:27:35.545 --> 03:27:39.330 Because my daughter and my favorite son-in-law, 03:27:39.330 --> 03:27:43.570 my only son-in-law, Katie and Jeff Rountree next June 03:27:43.570 --> 03:27:46.370 are gonna have Benjamin Ellis Rountree. 03:27:46.370 --> 03:27:49.450 And we were incredibly excited for the first grandchild. 03:27:49.450 --> 03:27:51.920 First great-grandchild on all sides of the family 03:27:51.920 --> 03:27:53.510 and really excited. 03:27:53.510 --> 03:27:57.210 So that's a big, exciting news for us. 03:27:57.210 --> 03:27:59.740 And as we wrap up, again, it's been said, 03:27:59.740 --> 03:28:02.630 but incredible thanks to the staff. 03:28:02.630 --> 03:28:05.080 The overtime, the effort, the work. 03:28:05.080 --> 03:28:06.640 We can be here and do all the work, 03:28:06.640 --> 03:28:08.090 but we couldn't do our work without you. 03:28:08.090 --> 03:28:11.500 So I wanna give a big, huge shout out as we always do, 03:28:11.500 --> 03:28:13.860 but it can't be said enough for all the work 03:28:13.860 --> 03:28:15.240 that y'all do for us. 03:28:15.240 --> 03:28:16.910 So we appreciate that very much. 03:28:16.910 --> 03:28:18.907 That being said, we stand adjourned.