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public voting meeting
on this day, Thursday,
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October 7th, 2021.
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President Batjer you may proceed.
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Thank you operator.
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Good morning.
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We need to establish
a quorum of the agenda
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clerk Please call the roll.
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Commissioner Houck.
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Here.
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Commissioner Shiroma.
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Present.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
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I'm here.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
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Here.
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President Batjer.
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Here, we have established
a quorum, thank you all.
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Welcome everyone to the public.
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Excuse me.
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Welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I'm calling this meeting of
October 7th, 2021 public agenda
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item 34, 94, to order.
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Due to the corona virus pandemic
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and the shelter in place
order we are conducting today
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business meeting online
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We will now turn to the public
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The public can make comments,
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addressing items on the
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as well as items not on today's agenda.
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Please note,
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there will not be public
comments on item 1224
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and all items on the
closed session agenda.
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You will have one
minute, let me repeat that,
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you will have one minute to speak today.
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And please, please be mindful
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As a reminder, also,
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please speak clearly and
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the Spanish interpreters
who are available
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during the public comment
portion of today's meeting.
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With that guidance in mind
I welcome today's speakers,
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I will now turn to the operator
to open the public comment,
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telephone line thank you.
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Operator.
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Thank you.
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so our public comment,
telephone line is now open.
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If you wish to speak during
the public comment period,
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please press star one unmute your phone
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and clearly record your name
and organization when prompted.
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Our first caller is Sudi
Skull you may go ahead.
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Good morning.
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The copper landline is a
lifeline and a medical emergency
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and incoherent landline
911 can be placed
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and then an ambulance will
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be automatically sent
to the caller's address.
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A cell phone does not
perform this function.
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In 2016 AT&T tried to
unsuccessfully dismantle the landline
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through a bill and state Congress.
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Now by pawning the
landline onto frontier,
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which just emerge from Chapter
11 bankruptcy in April, 2021,
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AT&T is attempting again to
dismantle the copper landline.
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Frontier is a mismanaged
company that has not been able to
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sustain profitability since
they took over rural districts
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in 2016 from Verizon,
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they infuriate their customers
routinely by exasperated
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friend in Santa Cruz county has filed
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four complaints for the FCC.
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Their record of maintenance is poor.
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Obviously Frontiers personnel
do not have the years of
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quality training and know-how
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they come with AT&T is
ability to provide reliable,
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consistent copper
landlines here in California,
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which we desperately need.
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Vote no on AT&T application thank you.
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Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Rob Holly.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, I'm Rob Holly
from the solar rights Alliance.
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I wanna remind the Commission
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that the ACC model was prepared by E3
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a long time partner of the utilities.
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The alternative is the non-biased
fiber clean energy model.
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The Fiber model looks out to
2050 using 10 times more data
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to look at every possible way
to make the energy system
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more cost effective.
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It shows that the path
to cleaner green power
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requires rooftop solar.
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This over require fewer
long distance power lines.
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The report confirms a trend
we've been witnessing over the
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past several years.
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In 2018 alone,
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the state energy officials
scale back $2.6 billion
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worth of power line projects.
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The ACC only looks out
to 2030 relies on outdated
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assumptions and an unrealistic
build-out of utility solar.
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Why is the Commission basing
his decisions on a bias model
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that lacks either the time span
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or accuracy to predict what will happen?
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Brockie Payne
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you may go ahead.
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Hi, my name
is Brockie Payne.
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I'm here to speak on behalf
of the Mermaid California
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and a letter to be delivered
to the Commission today,
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188 advocacy organizations
are imploring the Commission to
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protect and strengthen the
state's tent metering program.
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These organizations and
leaders are part of over 400
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working together to save rooftop solar.
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The letter states that the
framework of net-metering should
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be maintained and improved
to meet the following goals.
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One, keep rooftop solar
growing to fight climate change
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and build a safer, more resilient grid,
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two prioritize equity,
bring rooftop, solar,
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and storage to more low
income families and communities
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and three it makes the large
charge batteries standard
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with rooftop solar by 2030.
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That it keeps solar in the
hands of everyday Californians,
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we need to maintain a
strong net metering program.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
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Operator next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Esther.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi my name
is Esther Anciso
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and I live in long beach, California.
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Please don't buy the utility line
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that rooftop solar is
costing other people money.
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Rooftop solar is reducing the cost
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of long distance power lines,
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which are the actual
reason for high rates,
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blackouts and wildfires.
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Rooftop solar and
battery storage projects
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are one of the best shovel-ready
jobs creators out there.
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Rooftop solar offers lots of
local jobs in every community
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that cannot be outsourced.
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Additionally,
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California will not meet
its climate change goals.
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If we back off from rooftop solar,
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they're the limit to how much
large scale solar and wind
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that they can build affordably
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and without encroaching
on protected natural areas
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without a lot more rooftop solar,
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the financial and environmental
costs of clean energy
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will prohibitively hike,
Thank you for your time.
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Thank you, operator
next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is David McCord,
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you may go ahead.
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Hi this was a David McCord
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and I'm a rate payer in El Sorito.
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I ask the CPUC to
strengthen net energy metering
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for rooftop solar,
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and storage to encourage
equitable installation
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on homes and businesses.
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As a key state agency,
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the PUC is charged
with helping the state
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to achieve its climate goals.
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This means expanding renewable energy,
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including solar and storage,
rooftop solar and storage
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enhances resiliency on the distribution
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grid as well as for
individual customers.
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It also reduces the cost of
long distance transmission,
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reducing the electricity
the rates that we pay.
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The big utilities self-serving proposals
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for an ethereum metering
would do the opposite.
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The PUC's role is to
serve the public Good,
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not to help the utility is
to maximize the profits for
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shareholders, thanks.
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Thank you, Mr. McCord
operator, the next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Alan Marlene
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you may go ahead.
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Hello can you hear me?
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Yes, we can please go ahead.
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Thank you.
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I'm Alan Marlene California residents.
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Last few weeks ago, I was driving home,
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saw a lightning storm and I
was terrified not only because I
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was unexpected, there
was no rain or anything,
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but also because I was worried it
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would start another wildfire.
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We were lucky that night,
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but I don't expect us
to be lucky in the future
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and a more clean energy
through rooftop solar will make
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climate change not so bad
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and we'll make future fire
seasons, not so terrifying
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and so I urge the CPUC
to keep rooftop solar
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and battery storage growing
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when stuck in my house
and get the wildfire,
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smoke local clean energy
micro grids are the most
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effective way to do this and
such as through rooftop solar,
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and it's important that you
do not by the utility lie that
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we've taught solar is
costing other people money.
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They're breeding criminals
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and don't trust anything
they say, thank you.
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Thank you, operator
next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Mike Policek.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, I'm a resident
of San Mateo county,
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about a half hour drive
from Google, Tesla,
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Silicon valley in general,
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but it lost power five
times in the last six weeks.
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It's every few days,
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these outages are typically
lasting 24 to 48 hours.
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PG&E's liability is normally
not great in my area.
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It's not uncommon
for us to lose electricity
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a few times a year,
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but in the last few years and
months it's gotten much worse
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and this is happening at the worst time.
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When many of us are working
or going to school from home,
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I understand this is a response
to fire danger and PG&E
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setting breakers incorrectly
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and that these settings
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are in the process of being adjusted,
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but it's not acceptable to simply say
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that we can either be safe
or get reliable electricity.
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I've heard PG&E is
working on improvements,
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but you at the CPUC
must review how it is
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that you let things get this bad.
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Moving forward I urge
you to demand detailed
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urgent goals with metrics from PG&E
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this is how normal businesses work.
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You must demand actions
with names and dates
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that lead to the
achievement of these goals
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and you must share
all of this with the public
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so we can hold PG&E and the
CPUC accountable, thank you.
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Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
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Our next caller
is Dr. Sandra Miller Ross
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with health and habitat, Inc.
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You may go ahead.
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I am a disabled
hearing impaired senior citizen
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and have not received notice
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that AT&T is dropping landlines.
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I have six and request
CPUC reject AT&T's
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application and guaranteed
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present service will not diminish.
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VOIP and wireless are not reliable
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911 or emergency
notifications very necessary
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in the fire prone area while are I live.
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My disabling electromagnetic sensitivity
00:15:37.970 --> 00:15:41.150
prevents me from using cell phones.
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I request CPUC,
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make arrangements for people
with disabilities to continue
00:15:48.260 --> 00:15:53.260
to have copper landlines
and hold remote public
00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:58.590
participation hearings
after clearly notifying all
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customers in California, thank you.
00:16:06.508 --> 00:16:10.038
Thank you, operator
next caller, please.
00:16:10.038 --> 00:16:12.950
Our next
caller is David Rusha,
00:16:12.950 --> 00:16:13.800
you may go ahead.
00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:17.040
Hello my
name is David Rusha.
00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:19.101
The continued growth
of distributed energy
00:16:19.101 --> 00:16:21.020
resources like rooftop,
00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:24.810
solar and community
micro-grids is a vital importance in
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advancing all of the goals that
California energy Commission
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has established for our state goals
00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:35.050
that utilities alone cannot achieve.
00:16:35.050 --> 00:16:38.630
The proposal submitted by
to the PUC by investor owned
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utilities are shortsighted
and self-serving
00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:45.210
and will cripple the growth
of DER's in our state.
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I urge you carefully to carefully
review the detailed study
00:16:48.650 --> 00:16:51.040
conducted by vibrant clean energy,
00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:53.860
that presents a comprehensive
analysis of the ways that
00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:56.395
DER's bring long-term
benefits to a broad,
00:16:56.395 --> 00:17:00.370
diverse sector of
the state's population.
00:17:00.370 --> 00:17:03.560
Concluding also that DERS will
00:17:03.560 --> 00:17:06.800
in the long run save
money for all rate payers,
00:17:06.800 --> 00:17:11.060
I and thousands of Californians
invested in PV systems for
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the sake of our planet's
future not for our pocketbooks.
00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.880
Let DERS continue to
be a part of the solution
00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.097
to global warming, not part
of the problem thank you.
00:17:25.270 --> 00:17:28.769
Thank you, operator
next caller, please.
00:17:28.769 --> 00:17:32.979
Our next caller is
Nina Beede you may go ahead.
00:17:32.979 --> 00:17:35.530
I'm Nina Beede party state
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that there's confusion about who AT&T
00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:42.530
is application to anyone 0507
effects there's no confusion
00:17:42.530 --> 00:17:46.010
AT&T has worked to eliminate
copper line landline service
00:17:46.010 --> 00:17:47.620
for years through legislation
00:17:47.620 --> 00:17:50.020
and regulatory action and move customers
00:17:50.020 --> 00:17:52.690
to grossly inadequate
hazardous phone service
00:17:52.690 --> 00:17:54.397
and to a phone company that's in quote,
00:17:54.397 --> 00:17:56.301
"Chronic failure status"
00:17:56.301 --> 00:17:59.320
AT&T wants to take away
service to one group of us now
00:17:59.320 --> 00:18:01.980
and another group soon
when people call AT&T
00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:03.580
for new service,
00:18:03.580 --> 00:18:06.440
AT&T says it doesn't provide
copper line landline service,
00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:07.690
excuse me anymore.
00:18:07.690 --> 00:18:11.120
I'm disabled by electromagnetic
sensitivity as are thousands
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and thousands of people in the state.
00:18:12.890 --> 00:18:15.980
I can only use copper line
landline service in my home.
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I got no notice,
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hold PPH hearings as
parties request so that
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our testimony and critical
issues can be in the record
00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.220
and why taking away these
landlines is discriminatory
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and can kill people,
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recap fees so that everyone
can afford this essential
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and most resilient,
dependable, and safe service
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make copper line the
highest infrastructure priority
00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:37.730
along with the electric
grid and stop AT&T
00:18:37.730 --> 00:18:40.340
dangerous overloading of utility poles,
00:18:40.340 --> 00:18:43.660
PG&E's mitigation plans
on another topic are bunk
00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:46.710
in my city PG&E refuses
to eliminate dead tree
00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:48.880
branches next to power lines and fuses
00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.410
and does dangerous
earth work around poles.
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While the Commission
allows electric and gas meters
00:18:53.620 --> 00:18:55.830
that are known fire
and electrical hazards
00:18:55.830 --> 00:18:57.870
on every building they're on grounded,
00:18:57.870 --> 00:18:59.390
they have inadequate surge protection
00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:01.880
and they contain
explosive lithium battery
00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:03.263
protect public now.
00:19:07.570 --> 00:19:09.750
Thank you for your comments
00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:12.383
operator the next speaker, please.
00:19:14.270 --> 00:19:16.940
The next
caller is Marilyn Garrett.
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You may go ahead.
00:19:19.750 --> 00:19:23.750
I agree with all
the previous speakers
00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:27.460
keep safe and reliable copper landmines
00:19:27.460 --> 00:19:32.460
reject AT&T's plans to end
residential land lines service.
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Many of us have only landlines
00:19:37.560 --> 00:19:40.760
which works during
electric power outages.
00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:45.760
I do not have a computer nor
microwave radiation emitting
00:19:46.930 --> 00:19:51.280
cell phone due to the
negative impacts on my health.
00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:56.250
If you were truly prioritizing
public health and safety,
00:19:56.250 --> 00:20:01.220
your policies would require
AT&T's maintenance and
00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:05.260
expansion of the
reliable copper landlines
00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:09.320
and removal of the dangerous fire prone,
00:20:09.320 --> 00:20:13.040
wireless and health damaging microwave,
00:20:13.040 --> 00:20:17.597
emitting cell phones, cell
tower, and WiFi technology.
00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:23.157
I call on you to prohibit
corporations like AT&T from
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discriminating against and endangering
00:20:28.110 --> 00:20:30.890
and ostracizing anyone.
00:20:30.890 --> 00:20:35.820
Our lives depend on reliable
copper landline service
00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:40.820
immediately deny AT&T's
application to terminate
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copper landlines,
residential service, thank you.
00:20:46.414 --> 00:20:49.183
Thank you operator
the next caller please.
00:20:50.179 --> 00:20:53.520
Our next
caller is Margaret Jensen,
00:20:53.520 --> 00:20:54.370
You may go ahead.
00:20:55.829 --> 00:20:57.910
My name is Margaret Jensen
00:20:57.910 --> 00:21:00.400
and I live in Los Angeles.
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:05.400
I'm requesting that the
CPUC protect and expand
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rooftop solar and battery storage.
00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:12.980
My solar panels were
installed nine years ago.
00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:17.980
They have generated 5,026
kilowatt hours so far this
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year and over 47,000
kilowatt hours since installation.
00:21:27.020 --> 00:21:30.180
In many years, months, weeks, and days,
00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:35.180
my system has put free
electricity back into the grid
00:21:35.390 --> 00:21:37.210
for public use.
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I am happy to share
my extra electricity.
00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:44.830
These panels have created local jobs,
00:21:44.830 --> 00:21:48.810
both in manufacturing and installation.
00:21:48.810 --> 00:21:53.520
I have not needed extensive
grids to share my power.
00:21:53.520 --> 00:21:57.520
My panels have not caused any wildfires
00:21:57.520 --> 00:22:00.300
nor killed any wildlife.
00:22:00.300 --> 00:22:03.600
They did not cause any power outages
00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:06.050
or extensive maintenance.
00:22:06.050 --> 00:22:09.310
The only maintenance needed on my panels
00:22:09.310 --> 00:22:12.110
is annual washing.
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As a citizen I must now thank you.
00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.973
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
00:22:22.882 --> 00:22:26.583
Our next caller is
Paul Arms you may go ahead.
00:22:28.360 --> 00:22:30.680
Hello Commissioners,
happy Thursday.
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.160
My name is Paul Arms
and the here is my minute.
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:34.470
I live in Huntington beach,
00:22:34.470 --> 00:22:36.800
California down here in Orange county,
00:22:36.800 --> 00:22:40.460
right where the long beach
underwater oil pipeline first.
00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:41.910
I'm speaking as a resident,
00:22:41.910 --> 00:22:45.530
but as a former president
of the Bolsa Chica land trust
00:22:45.530 --> 00:22:46.950
Bolsa Chica one of California's
00:22:46.950 --> 00:22:48.810
largest coastal wetlands
00:22:48.810 --> 00:22:51.490
and asking the Commissioners
to come see the wildlife
00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:52.870
and the devastation,
00:22:52.870 --> 00:22:57.030
and then visit the burn
forest of our magnificent state.
00:22:57.030 --> 00:23:01.410
It's time for a change
obviously and my ask
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I want my country, my state,
00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:07.130
and my community to
lead with renewable energy.
00:23:07.130 --> 00:23:10.260
I don't want to see burn
forest or oil spills in Wetlands.
00:23:10.260 --> 00:23:14.600
Let's keep rooftop, solar,
and that industry in California,
00:23:14.600 --> 00:23:17.970
let's see it made in USA
and listen not add fees
00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:19.323
to make it more difficult.
00:23:20.230 --> 00:23:21.910
Remember in California,
00:23:21.910 --> 00:23:25.810
we put a little helicopter
on Mars to JPL.
00:23:25.810 --> 00:23:28.750
It flies around on Mars using solar.
00:23:28.750 --> 00:23:31.410
We can keep, and we can
put solar on groups easily.
00:23:31.410 --> 00:23:34.360
It's not rocket science
that go around the sun
00:23:34.360 --> 00:23:36.480
365 days a year.
00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:39.760
Let's look up in the sky for
our future and our life and not
00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:41.760
down in the ground for our past.
00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:45.410
I'm signing off thank
you have a super day.
00:23:45.410 --> 00:23:49.980
Nope, these please
and remember one thing.
00:23:49.980 --> 00:23:52.860
If smokey, the bear could testify right?
00:23:52.860 --> 00:23:55.400
Only you can prevent,
What would you say?
00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:57.130
Thank you for your time I appreciate it
00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:58.093
Have a super day.
00:23:59.830 --> 00:24:00.663
Thank you.
00:24:01.780 --> 00:24:03.964
Operator the next caller, please.
00:24:03.964 --> 00:24:06.960
Our next
caller is Erica Adelson
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:08.450
you may go ahead.
00:24:08.450 --> 00:24:10.210
Hi my
name is Erica Adelson
00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:12.030
I live in Ukiah and I'm a member
00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.840
of the Redwood valley Grange.
00:24:13.840 --> 00:24:17.710
The Grange is an agrarian
based national community service
00:24:17.710 --> 00:24:21.990
and mutual aid organization
with 1700 local Chapters.
00:24:21.990 --> 00:24:24.440
Here in our Redwood valley Chapter,
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.110
we are particularly
worried about wildfires.
00:24:27.110 --> 00:24:32.043
We lost nine lives and 545
structures in the 2017 fire
00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:35.620
and our Grange building
served as a critical community
00:24:35.620 --> 00:24:38.930
resource for evacuees serving hot meals,
00:24:38.930 --> 00:24:42.500
distributing supplies, and
providing space for FEMA.
00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:45.360
We're now exploring the
possibility of installing solar plus
00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:49.310
storage on our building so
that we can serve as a cooling
00:24:49.310 --> 00:24:50.770
and charging station
00:24:50.770 --> 00:24:53.650
the next time there's
a fire or a blackout.
00:24:53.650 --> 00:24:56.880
Our fear of wildfires and
interest in solar lead us to bring
00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.690
a resolution to the California
state Grange a few days ago,
00:25:00.690 --> 00:25:04.160
the resolution which passed
at the state level affirms the
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.120
Grange's support for solar
00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:09.310
and opposes any efforts
to roll back net metering
00:25:09.310 --> 00:25:12.857
or impose any fees on
solar customers thank you.
00:25:15.331 --> 00:25:18.233
Thank you operator to
the next caller, please.
00:25:19.345 --> 00:25:22.200
Our next
caller is Nancy Kelly
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.050
you may go ahead.
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.270
Hello I'm Nancy Kelly
00:25:26.270 --> 00:25:29.430
I was top solar rate
payer from San Diego.
00:25:29.430 --> 00:25:32.790
I'm 50 year plus resident of California,
00:25:32.790 --> 00:25:34.900
I've raised my family
here and taught school
00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:36.550
until my retirement.
00:25:36.550 --> 00:25:39.530
My two granddaughters
who live in California.
00:25:39.530 --> 00:25:42.820
There is nothing more
important to me than that
00:25:42.820 --> 00:25:44.840
my children Grant's daughters
00:25:44.840 --> 00:25:46.930
and the families of my past students
00:25:46.930 --> 00:25:50.880
are provided with their
right to a sustainable future.
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.900
The only way this can be accomplished
00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:54.780
is by inclusion of the growth
00:25:54.780 --> 00:25:58.990
of equitable, affordable
rooftop, solar and battery storage.
00:25:58.990 --> 00:26:02.780
Please reject the inaccurate
statements of IOUs
00:26:02.780 --> 00:26:06.170
rooftop solar is vital
and overall economically
00:26:06.170 --> 00:26:08.390
beneficial for all,
00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.900
and most importantly, an
imperative for a livable future
00:26:11.900 --> 00:26:14.893
for our children and
grandchildren thank you.
00:26:19.370 --> 00:26:22.143
Thank you operator
next caller, please.
00:26:23.041 --> 00:26:26.930
Our next
caller is Rocco Ocampo
00:26:26.930 --> 00:26:28.450
you may go ahead.
00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:30.620
Thank you
and Good morning.
00:26:30.620 --> 00:26:33.360
My name is Rocco Compo
and I live in San Kundalini,
00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:36.450
California I'm an advocate of
clean and renewable energy.
00:26:36.450 --> 00:26:40.070
I'm calling today that you to
ask that you help keep solar
00:26:40.070 --> 00:26:43.050
affordable for families of all
income levels and promote its
00:26:43.050 --> 00:26:46.450
use throughout our safe
growth in the solar industry
00:26:46.450 --> 00:26:48.570
would directly aid the
mandate to California,
00:26:48.570 --> 00:26:51.430
reach of fully renewable
energy infrastructure,
00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:54.170
which is why it can be puzzling
to discern why the proposed
00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:57.563
net energy metering 3.0 changes
are even being considered.
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.210
I pray that you would take
into consideration our best
00:27:01.210 --> 00:27:04.899
interest before allowing the
implementation of such a plan.
00:27:04.899 --> 00:27:08.810
Our current system of energy
is based on nearly essentially
00:27:08.810 --> 00:27:12.120
a technology nearly a century
old and not effective enough
00:27:12.120 --> 00:27:13.370
to give us affordable power
00:27:13.370 --> 00:27:14.990
without damaging the environment,
00:27:14.990 --> 00:27:17.720
causing wildfires and
leaving people in many areas,
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.290
experiencing power outages,
00:27:20.290 --> 00:27:23.170
solar battery storage in a safe
and affordable way for us to
00:27:23.170 --> 00:27:24.700
have a reliable source of energy
00:27:24.700 --> 00:27:27.060
without the danger of
the property and lives.
00:27:27.060 --> 00:27:29.730
During my three seasons
fighting California wildfires,
00:27:29.730 --> 00:27:32.360
I found that utility companies
such as Southern California
00:27:32.360 --> 00:27:35.910
Edison were found culpable
for California wildfires,
00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:39.140
such as the Thomas fire in
Santa Barbara during 2017,
00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:42.420
in which over 280,000 acres were burned
00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:47.333
due to down power lines,
many brave men and lots of lives.
00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:52.760
Thank you, sir.
00:27:52.760 --> 00:27:54.623
Operator the next caller, please.
00:27:57.117 --> 00:27:59.300
Our next
caller is Rennie Wise
00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:01.220
with solar rights Alliance.
00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:02.070
You may go ahead.
00:28:03.810 --> 00:28:05.400
Hi, my name is Ronnie Wise.
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:07.170
I live in Fremont.
00:28:07.170 --> 00:28:11.160
I have kids two daughters
that I'm very proud of.
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.030
I'm sure many of the attendees
today have children too,
00:28:14.030 --> 00:28:16.160
and you all want the best for them.
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.880
We want them to grow
up and live a happy,
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.070
productive life only there's
just one problem with that.
00:28:22.070 --> 00:28:23.730
The planet is sick,
00:28:23.730 --> 00:28:26.890
the hot days are hotter
and the cold days are colder.
00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:30.536
We suffer from droughts,
forest fires and power outages.
00:28:30.536 --> 00:28:34.080
A lot of those forest fires and
power outages were caused
00:28:34.080 --> 00:28:36.780
by the negligence of utility companies.
00:28:36.780 --> 00:28:40.040
Many people have died in
many homes were destroyed.
00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:42.010
Does it seem right to you
that we should reward that
00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:46.520
negligence by allow them to
penalize rooftop solar power too
00:28:46.520 --> 00:28:49.080
why penalize something
this successful in the fight to
00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:50.730
end global warming
00:28:50.730 --> 00:28:54.060
just so PG&E shareholders
can make more money.
00:28:54.060 --> 00:28:57.290
Is this the legacy you want
to leave behind to our kids?
00:28:57.290 --> 00:28:58.880
Vote with your heart against these net
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.730
entering metering changes
00:29:00.730 --> 00:29:02.340
and help keep rooftop, solar alive,
00:29:02.340 --> 00:29:05.123
and the fight to save
our planet thank you.
00:29:06.260 --> 00:29:09.563
Thank you, operator
next caller please.
00:29:12.594 --> 00:29:16.110
And our next
caller is Lawrence Abbott
00:29:16.110 --> 00:29:17.623
you may go ahead.
00:29:17.623 --> 00:29:20.310
Hi guess I
have two comments
00:29:20.310 --> 00:29:25.310
one is that landline service needs to be
00:29:26.040 --> 00:29:30.280
maintained and
restored and not cut back.
00:29:30.280 --> 00:29:33.060
It's too important for
communication to have
00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:35.770
at least two types
and of course landlines
00:29:35.770 --> 00:29:38.430
are the most reliable and especially
00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:41.830
every 10 years or so, we
have a solar flares from the sun,
00:29:41.830 --> 00:29:44.450
which will definitely knock
out every now and then,
00:29:44.450 --> 00:29:48.040
the major solar flares will
knock out the wireless service
00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:50.350
first and that will just
cripple communication.
00:29:50.350 --> 00:29:54.000
So we need to have wired
for those events and for all
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.520
events, the backup
system for net metering,
00:29:56.520 --> 00:29:59.240
we must maintain that lead metering even
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.990
and no new fees on net metering.
00:30:01.990 --> 00:30:04.550
In fact, we need to add
more financial incentives
00:30:04.550 --> 00:30:07.320
because we need to transition
to renewable as you quicker
00:30:07.320 --> 00:30:08.310
or we're all doomed.
00:30:08.310 --> 00:30:09.363
Thank you so much.
00:30:11.660 --> 00:30:14.467
Thank you, operator
next caller Please.
00:30:23.420 --> 00:30:25.810
Operator do we have another caller?
00:30:25.810 --> 00:30:28.240
I apologize
and at this time
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.020
I show no additional callers, but again,
00:30:30.020 --> 00:30:31.500
if you would like to make a comment,
00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:32.820
please unmute your phone,
00:30:32.820 --> 00:30:36.910
press star one and record your
name clearly when prompted.
00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:38.310
So I may introduce you,
00:30:38.310 --> 00:30:40.360
again that is star one
to make a comment.
00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:51.278
Okay let's check the
line again, operator.
00:30:51.278 --> 00:30:54.078
Yeah, please
stand by for our next comment.
00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:02.833
Our next caller is from Mike
Lane you may go ahead.
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:05.620
Yeah.
00:31:05.620 --> 00:31:10.620
I'm calling to objective the
race of the so-called Wi-Fi
00:31:12.873 --> 00:31:17.837
measurement, A20-02-003
and A21-08-015 so-called
00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:28.270
cost of a capital application.
00:31:28.270 --> 00:31:30.150
increased rate for that,
00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:34.350
it sounds to me that is
to guarantee the PG&E
00:31:34.350 --> 00:31:36.593
to make a profit that's ridiculous.
00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:42.710
That's no, any firms
should be guaranteed
00:31:42.710 --> 00:31:47.430
to make a huge profit
and the way I look at it,
00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:51.230
the PUC should not act as a rubber stamp
00:31:51.230 --> 00:31:56.230
to approve each off their
request for the rate increase,
00:31:56.590 --> 00:32:00.940
besides that, for the residential
00:32:03.806 --> 00:32:05.550
I think the first allowance is
00:32:05.550 --> 00:32:10.550
204, 204K WHS a way too low
00:32:11.116 --> 00:32:16.116
and once they go over, that
would be jumped to tier two.
00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:20.513
So the tier one allowance
should be raised to 250.
00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:26.520
Okay, so I hope PUC
stand as a consumer's side,
00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:30.863
he set up at,
00:32:31.730 --> 00:32:35.843
the big corporate side to
kind of balance thank you.
00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:39.653
Thank you operator
next caller, please.
00:32:40.822 --> 00:32:44.083
Our next caller is
Ann Harvey you may go ahead.
00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:46.700
Hi, I'm Ann Harvey.
00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:49.430
I'm a retired doctor in Oakland
00:32:49.430 --> 00:32:51.840
and a member of climate health now
00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:53.880
more than 500 healthcare professionals
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.450
who recognize climate change
00:32:55.450 --> 00:32:58.180
as the public health
and equity emergency
00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:00.050
of our lifetimes.
00:33:00.050 --> 00:33:03.940
As the most recent reports
of the IPUC and international
00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:08.250
energy agency emphasize we
have a very narrow pathway to
00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:12.490
avoid the worst irreversible
catastrophic consequences
00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:14.220
of global warming,
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:15.890
which is of course primarily due to
00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:18.580
fossil fuel extraction and combustion
00:33:18.580 --> 00:33:22.230
and the CPUC really needs
to be a part of the solution,
00:33:22.230 --> 00:33:25.130
not promoting the problem
please keep rooftop,
00:33:25.130 --> 00:33:28.810
solar and battery storage
growing in California and make it
00:33:28.810 --> 00:33:31.420
more equitable so that
millions of working class people
00:33:31.420 --> 00:33:35.333
can get solar in the
coming years thank you.
00:33:37.884 --> 00:33:40.700
Thank you, Operator
00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:42.330
you think we have some
more folks on the line.
00:33:42.330 --> 00:33:44.868
Could you bring on
the next caller please?
00:33:44.868 --> 00:33:47.680
Our next caller
is Nickton Champaneria
00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:50.070
you may go ahead.
00:33:50.070 --> 00:33:52.350
Yes Nickton Champaneria,
00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:54.320
retired quality engineer
00:33:56.760 --> 00:34:01.350
CPUC must not change
the net-metering policy.
00:34:01.350 --> 00:34:05.083
It is promoted by utilities
to make more money.
00:34:06.340 --> 00:34:11.340
The current metering policy is
working and many people are
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.290
interested in putting rooftop solar,
00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:19.803
and CPUC his role is
to look at the goals of,
00:34:20.844 --> 00:34:25.844
our state that we need to
be promoting green energy.
00:34:26.370 --> 00:34:31.370
It will be shameful if CPUC caves in
00:34:31.370 --> 00:34:34.607
with the utilities proposal thank you.
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.683
Thank you, operator
next caller please.
00:34:41.157 --> 00:34:43.470
And before we
go to the next caller again,
00:34:43.470 --> 00:34:45.780
if you would like to make a comment,
00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:48.420
please press star one unmute your phone
00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:49.740
and clearly provide your name
00:34:49.740 --> 00:34:52.100
and organization when prompted.
00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:55.093
our next caller is Zack
you may go ahead.
00:34:56.546 --> 00:34:57.870
Hi, good morning,
00:34:57.870 --> 00:35:00.300
net energy metering through
residential rooftop solar
00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:02.477
is South side to the normal across
00:35:02.477 --> 00:35:04.190
homeowners for low income renters.
00:35:04.190 --> 00:35:06.570
It is an in equal policy, homeowners,
00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:08.770
rooftop solar grossly overestimate
00:35:08.770 --> 00:35:10.070
the value of the solar panels
00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:12.693
because of the net energy
leading policy subsidy.
00:35:13.750 --> 00:35:15.606
These properties are not off the grid
00:35:15.606 --> 00:35:17.480
rather they rely on the grant,
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.270
they rely on power from the grid,
00:35:19.270 --> 00:35:21.470
and they're unfairly
enriched by the policy.
00:35:25.140 --> 00:35:28.123
Thank you operator
the next caller please.
00:35:30.382 --> 00:35:32.230
And President
Batjer at this time,
00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:35.780
I show no additional callers
in the public comments queue.
00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:38.700
Okay operator thank so much.
00:35:38.700 --> 00:35:41.500
With no more callers on the line
00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.850
the public comment period is now closed.
00:35:43.850 --> 00:35:46.170
Thank you all for who
called in this morning
00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:47.513
we greatly appreciate it.
00:35:50.430 --> 00:35:53.860
We have a slight adjustment
to today's schedule.
00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:57.100
Before we move on to agenda changes,
00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:59.130
we will take up item 28,
00:35:59.130 --> 00:36:02.540
which is the management
report and discussion on recent
00:36:02.540 --> 00:36:05.983
consumer protection
and safety activities.
00:36:07.610 --> 00:36:12.000
Today, we have a presentation
on the Commission's actions to
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.640
protect consumers
customers during COVID.
00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:19.640
I will now turn to
executive director Peterson
00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:23.573
to introduce today's speaker Rachael.
00:36:24.831 --> 00:36:27.350
Good morning
thank you, President Batjer
00:36:27.350 --> 00:36:29.023
and thank you Commissioners.
00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:34.080
I really appreciate the
opportunity to present to you today.
00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:38.010
This is the first of three
presentations that I've asked
00:36:38.010 --> 00:36:40.300
staff to prepare that focus on our work
00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:42.823
on behalf of California customers.
00:36:43.910 --> 00:36:45.310
The first one today,
00:36:45.310 --> 00:36:47.870
you'll hear about the
protections that the Commission
00:36:47.870 --> 00:36:52.770
established during the COVID-19
pandemic for people who fell
00:36:52.770 --> 00:36:55.393
behind on their electric and gas bills.
00:36:56.340 --> 00:36:59.140
At the next voting meeting in October,
00:36:59.140 --> 00:37:02.890
you'll hear about the work of
our consumer affairs branch,
00:37:02.890 --> 00:37:06.550
which handles individual
customer complaints across all of
00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:10.430
the types of utilities we regulate
and the enforcement team
00:37:10.430 --> 00:37:13.813
that executes enforcement
actions to benefit consumers.
00:37:14.870 --> 00:37:16.880
Then we'll hold off for a
little bit because you'll have
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.740
very full agendas in November,
December, and in early 2022,
00:37:21.740 --> 00:37:25.010
we'll bring you our third
presentation about how we are
00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:28.800
transforming some of our
customer programs in order to
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.030
further our mission of
ensuring that utilities provide
00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:34.113
affordable service to California.
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.893
If we can go to the next slide, please.
00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:46.910
So as we turn to the protections
00:37:46.910 --> 00:37:49.600
for electric and gas customers,
00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:52.480
I do want to note that
alongside these protections,
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.260
we took a number of different
actions during the pandemic
00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:59.900
because COVID-19
exacerbated the digital divide
00:37:59.900 --> 00:38:01.350
across our state.
00:38:01.350 --> 00:38:03.140
In the early part of 2020,
00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:06.740
we requested that the five
largest wireless providers
00:38:06.740 --> 00:38:10.436
and the 10 largest internet
service providers in California
00:38:10.436 --> 00:38:13.730
wave data caps and overage fees.
00:38:13.730 --> 00:38:16.020
Later in December of last year,
00:38:16.020 --> 00:38:19.040
we impose a moratorium
on late payment fees and
00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:22.993
disconnection for non-payment
for communications customers.
00:38:23.950 --> 00:38:27.180
We also directed transportation
network companies like Uber
00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:30.570
and Lyft to provide their
COVID response plans,
00:38:30.570 --> 00:38:32.370
including details of how they plan
00:38:32.370 --> 00:38:34.480
to keep drivers and customers safe.
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.350
In the event of increased
community transmission
00:38:38.520 --> 00:38:39.510
throughout the pandemic,
00:38:39.510 --> 00:38:43.710
our rail safety staff figured
out how to conduct virtual
00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:46.880
security inspections on all 37 railroads
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:48.550
that operate in California
00:38:49.660 --> 00:38:51.620
and finally, after a short pause,
00:38:51.620 --> 00:38:56.620
our gas safety team resumed
their regular inspections of gas
00:38:56.740 --> 00:39:00.270
systems in mobile home
parks across California.
00:39:00.270 --> 00:39:03.290
They resumed those in
summer 2020 and have continued
00:39:03.290 --> 00:39:06.326
performing that essential safety work.
00:39:06.326 --> 00:39:10.210
I'm really proud of the work
that our Commission staff did
00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:13.650
to continue to actively
protect people in California,
00:39:13.650 --> 00:39:15.210
both in response to,
00:39:15.210 --> 00:39:20.160
and despite this global
public health emergency.
00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:23.890
So now I will turn to deputy
executive director for energy
00:39:23.890 --> 00:39:27.600
and climate Edward Randolph
for a more in-depth look at the
00:39:27.600 --> 00:39:31.010
protections that we've
established for electricity and gas
00:39:31.010 --> 00:39:36.010
customers and how now we
are establishing and ensuring that
00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:39.710
the utilities implement
debt management programs
00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:42.563
as different moratoria
are coming to an end.
00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:44.963
Ed turning over to you.
00:39:49.490 --> 00:39:53.780
Thank you, executive
director Peterson,
00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:57.400
and thank you for actually
scheduling this particular
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:58.840
presentation at this moment in time.
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.420
I think it's particularly
timely to talk about the
00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:04.410
protections we were able to put in place
00:40:04.410 --> 00:40:06.230
during the pandemic.
00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:07.640
Right now,
00:40:07.640 --> 00:40:11.070
because we have a number
of protections in place to
00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:15.030
transition as off of the
moratorium on disconnection
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.950
and other protections.
00:40:16.950 --> 00:40:20.480
That it's very important
that we discuss this publicly
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:21.900
so people are aware of this so this is,
00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:26.600
I find very time that I do
want to start out broadly and
00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:32.020
similar to executive director
Petersen's comments.
00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:36.690
I'm incredibly proud of the
work that the Commission,
00:40:36.690 --> 00:40:41.690
the Commissioners staff and
all the divisions have done,
00:40:42.540 --> 00:40:46.130
but especially of energy
division of my own teams
00:40:46.130 --> 00:40:49.750
I did as a COVID stay at home orders
00:40:49.750 --> 00:40:52.660
were put into place almost immediately
00:40:52.660 --> 00:40:55.260
in the same days that
we were dealing with
00:40:55.260 --> 00:40:57.530
working from home for the first time
00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:02.530
and transitioning to staring
at video screens all day
00:41:02.930 --> 00:41:05.770
and not being in
offices and figuring out
00:41:05.770 --> 00:41:07.242
internet connection issues.
00:41:07.242 --> 00:41:11.320
We did not miss a beat in
proactively going out and
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:15.690
identifying where they're
going to be potential issues for
00:41:15.690 --> 00:41:17.380
electric and natural gas customers,
00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:19.948
and make sure we
were immediately putting
00:41:19.948 --> 00:41:21.140
protections in place.
00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:23.570
I'm gonna focus on a
few in this presentation,
00:41:23.570 --> 00:41:27.860
but others that we don't talk
about in this presentation is
00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:32.860
that we were able to go out
and very quickly track energy
00:41:33.200 --> 00:41:36.400
usage and look at new
trends and energy usage,
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.150
which did help us some down the road
00:41:38.150 --> 00:41:40.660
with some reliability forecasting.
00:41:40.660 --> 00:41:45.660
But that also allowed us to
very quickly understand how
00:41:45.700 --> 00:41:50.700
people's bills are gonna change
and that with higher energy
00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:54.570
usage under our tiered rate structure,
00:41:54.570 --> 00:41:57.010
people's bills were
potentially not gonna go up
00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:59.274
proportionally, but we're
gonna go up exponentially
00:41:59.274 --> 00:42:02.490
and could be huge
impacts on some customers
00:42:02.490 --> 00:42:07.490
and that initial tracking and
research was enabled you as
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.370
the Commissioners to quickly
put in place some changes in
00:42:11.370 --> 00:42:15.710
the tiered rate structures to
minimize those impacts on
00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:20.710
customers and to quickly
pivot how we distribute climate
00:42:20.730 --> 00:42:25.730
credits, which is a bill credit
that shows up bi-annually on
00:42:26.080 --> 00:42:30.010
customer's bills so that they
were showing up in months
00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:33.140
where the bill credit would
be more helpful to customers
00:42:33.140 --> 00:42:35.097
and reduce the risk of customers
00:42:35.097 --> 00:42:37.120
not being able to pay those bills.
00:42:37.120 --> 00:42:39.700
So I'm extremely
proud of all of that work,
00:42:39.700 --> 00:42:43.830
but moving on to specific
actions there in this
00:42:43.830 --> 00:42:46.463
presentation, if we can
move to the next slide, please.
00:42:49.070 --> 00:42:51.313
First and almost immediately,
00:42:52.200 --> 00:42:56.003
the PUC was able to issue orders,
00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:59.290
putting the moratorium
on all disconnections,
00:42:59.290 --> 00:43:01.560
that most of the slide
I will skip over the text,
00:43:01.560 --> 00:43:04.112
it's the process of how we got there,
00:43:04.112 --> 00:43:08.373
but with the help of legal
division executive division,
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.100
we were able to very quickly
put in place a moratorium on
00:43:14.100 --> 00:43:19.100
disconnection for all
customers for nonpayment.
00:43:19.870 --> 00:43:22.169
We also, it's not
mentioned on this slide,
00:43:22.169 --> 00:43:26.590
directed the utilities to
go back and reconnect
00:43:26.590 --> 00:43:28.530
any customer that was,
00:43:28.530 --> 00:43:31.240
had been disconnected
previous to the moratorium
00:43:31.240 --> 00:43:34.430
and we're on a weekly basis
00:43:34.430 --> 00:43:37.390
and then as we kind of got
down to smaller and smaller
00:43:37.390 --> 00:43:39.850
numbers, almost on a
customer by customer basis,
00:43:39.850 --> 00:43:43.150
we're working with the utilities
to make sure that each of
00:43:43.150 --> 00:43:47.240
those customers were
reconnected out there
00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:50.010
to the point that after a few weeks,
00:43:50.010 --> 00:43:52.743
if you saw the weekly
tracking of number of customers
00:43:52.743 --> 00:43:54.120
that are disconnected,
00:43:54.120 --> 00:43:57.130
the number we got
zero across all utilities
00:43:57.130 --> 00:44:00.603
and it's remained that way,
which I find, quite amazing.
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:04.920
Yeah and the next slide, please.
00:44:07.560 --> 00:44:12.560
We also very quickly at the
beginning of the moratorium,
00:44:13.510 --> 00:44:18.510
took some other actions that
to help customers a main one
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:23.960
out there was we directed
the utilities to increase
00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:31.600
their well, with a focus
on CARE and FERA,
00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:34.010
we took a couple actions there.
00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:37.980
The first action with
the low income programs
00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:39.840
was to suspend,
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.053
any removal of customers from
those programs in the suspend,
00:44:45.390 --> 00:44:49.210
any post enrollment
verification for customers.
00:44:49.210 --> 00:44:53.134
So customers could automatically
enrolled in the programs
00:44:53.134 --> 00:44:56.180
with very little effort
as a matter of fact,
00:44:56.180 --> 00:44:58.163
these programs are, has still the case.
00:44:59.750 --> 00:45:03.840
You just need to call the
utility and verify a few data
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.980
points that you qualify
00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:06.550
and then you can be enrolled into it.
00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:07.460
But to that point,
00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:10.530
we also asked the
utilities to dramatically
00:45:10.530 --> 00:45:12.453
increase their marketing and outreach,
00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:16.270
both through their own
channels and working with
00:45:16.270 --> 00:45:18.053
community-based organizations.
00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:21.913
So customers were
aware of these options.
00:45:22.770 --> 00:45:27.080
We really pushed them
on messaging to customers
00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:28.460
that if they have,
00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:31.160
a simple message that if
you have recently lost your job,
00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:34.230
you're most likely qualified for CARE
00:45:34.230 --> 00:45:36.660
and then it only takes
a phone call to enroll,
00:45:36.660 --> 00:45:39.940
and you were immediately
enrolled in the program
00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:42.510
and consequently there's
data on another slide,
00:45:42.510 --> 00:45:43.343
but I'll bring it up here
00:45:43.343 --> 00:45:47.020
we saw an 18% increase
in care participation
00:45:47.020 --> 00:45:50.650
due to those outreach programs
00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:54.300
and then on the energy
savings assistance program,
00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:58.513
which is a low income
energy efficiency program,
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.410
we quickly identified risks to
the workforce that works on
00:46:04.410 --> 00:46:08.260
that, that in the time of
the stay-at-home orders,
00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:11.880
they were gonna be unable
to do work and without
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:16.223
paychecks and if we were
not able to find a stable,
00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:20.230
stream to continue to
pay those employees,
00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:23.330
the program could
collapse on itself over time
00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:26.728
and so we're able to develop
mechanisms to over a short
00:46:26.728 --> 00:46:28.053
period of time,
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.653
keep the employees of those
programs paid, next slide.
00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:39.810
And then results of
some of these protections
00:46:39.810 --> 00:46:41.560
as I've already said,
00:46:41.560 --> 00:46:45.770
enrollment and care has
increased by 18% over time.
00:46:45.770 --> 00:46:49.320
There's a statistic in here
that care enrollment rate is a
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.760
100% of eligible customers
for anybody looks at
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.720
that and says, well, that's
an indication of fraud.
00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:57.770
What that is an indication is
of the baseline number we use
00:46:57.770 --> 00:47:00.100
for eligible customers
is actually pre COVID
00:47:01.210 --> 00:47:04.050
and now the baseline
number of eligible customers is
00:47:04.050 --> 00:47:07.300
obviously much higher, but
then the process in which,
00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:11.320
we set those baselines,
hasn't been readjusted out there
00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:19.004
and then nearly a 1.5 million
CARE and FERA customers
00:47:19.004 --> 00:47:21.700
did not have to recertify
00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:24.393
at the end of their
initial eligibility period
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.542
and then we were able
to work with 65 different
00:47:30.542 --> 00:47:32.760
ESA Energy Savings Assistance,
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.170
contractors to provide them
$44 million in advanced payments
00:47:37.170 --> 00:47:39.320
to keep their employees employed
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:41.643
during the stay at
home orders, next slide.
00:47:44.200 --> 00:47:46.440
These next slides,
I'm not gonna dwell on.
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.440
They can be found on our
website after the presentation.
00:47:52.100 --> 00:47:54.757
They simply show the growing amount of,
00:47:54.757 --> 00:47:59.757
and the dollar amounts of
arrearages mean unpaid bills from
00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:03.430
customers across
the utility, worth noting,
00:48:03.430 --> 00:48:05.640
I'll kind of point this
out in a later slide that,
00:48:05.640 --> 00:48:08.030
as we've grown across the time,
00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:10.490
we're at the 1.4 billion mark,
00:48:10.490 --> 00:48:13.970
approximately in total
on point I paid bills across
00:48:15.180 --> 00:48:17.930
all the utilities and if we
can move to the next slide,
00:48:21.470 --> 00:48:24.167
and then similarly,
this is tracking the,
00:48:25.940 --> 00:48:27.270
just the low income customers,
00:48:27.270 --> 00:48:30.833
customers who are enrolled
in the care or the fear programs
00:48:30.833 --> 00:48:35.410
and their arrearage one
thing that is worth noting
00:48:35.410 --> 00:48:36.410
if you were to flip it,
00:48:36.410 --> 00:48:38.460
I'm not gonna do this back
and forth between the two
00:48:38.460 --> 00:48:43.460
slides is a large percentage
of the customers who
00:48:45.610 --> 00:48:49.140
do have unpaid bills or back
bills actually are not enrolled
00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:51.113
in the CARE and FERA program.
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.500
It's been hard to kind of
explain some of that and do the
00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:59.460
data dive on that over time.
00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:01.520
But it does mean if, as we,
00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:06.160
the disconnection moratorium
is lifted or was lifted last
00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:09.810
week programs that are aimed
at the care and fear eligible
00:49:09.810 --> 00:49:14.660
customers are not gonna
cover all customers who were,
00:49:14.660 --> 00:49:16.397
had not paid their bills
00:49:16.397 --> 00:49:17.860
and over the next few months,
00:49:17.860 --> 00:49:20.920
I think it's pretty important
to track kind of both
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.283
categories of customers to see,
00:49:25.720 --> 00:49:27.740
how people are paying
down their bills now
00:49:27.740 --> 00:49:32.570
that they're subject to being
disconnected for nonpayment.
00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:33.563
Next slide, please.
00:49:37.060 --> 00:49:39.880
And then moving into, I
think a very important thing
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.170
and another part that I'm really proud
00:49:41.170 --> 00:49:42.533
of the Commission for,
00:49:43.810 --> 00:49:46.750
and especially under
Commissioner leadership
00:49:46.750 --> 00:49:47.583
and pushing this,
00:49:47.583 --> 00:49:52.583
having a lot of foresight
to design some programs
00:49:53.090 --> 00:49:57.720
that ease people off of the months
00:49:57.720 --> 00:50:01.760
where they wouldn't be
disconnected for nonpayment,
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.180
so that they have some
mechanisms where they can actually
00:50:04.180 --> 00:50:09.180
afford to pay down their bills
and not be hit with a massive
00:50:10.600 --> 00:50:12.690
requirement upfront.
00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:14.160
The first program is actually
00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:17.715
out of the state's budget this year
00:50:17.715 --> 00:50:19.330
referred to as the California Arrearage
00:50:19.330 --> 00:50:21.380
Payment Program or CAPP.
00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:26.380
This is a billion dollars general
fund money that has been
00:50:27.190 --> 00:50:30.533
allocated to the department
of community services CSD to
00:50:33.390 --> 00:50:38.080
help pay down unpaid
utility bills out there.
00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:40.160
This doesn't the billion dollars
00:50:40.160 --> 00:50:42.890
isn't just for our
jurisdictional entities,
00:50:42.890 --> 00:50:46.110
it also applies to the
publicly owned utilities,
00:50:46.110 --> 00:50:49.037
but the split between
them as about a little under
00:50:49.037 --> 00:50:51.180
$7 million, $700 million,
00:50:51.180 --> 00:50:55.880
going to the investor on
utilities or the CCAs out
00:50:57.750 --> 00:50:59.833
there with the rest going to the POUs.
00:51:03.252 --> 00:51:07.710
The way this mechanism will
work is as the CSD developed
00:51:07.710 --> 00:51:11.970
the rules, the utilities
will be required to apply
00:51:11.970 --> 00:51:15.800
on behalf of their
customers for the funding
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.190
and once they collect that funding,
00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:21.480
they apply it to the
eligible customers bills
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.550
as they build credit automatically
00:51:23.550 --> 00:51:25.100
and so the customer themselves don't
00:51:25.100 --> 00:51:27.930
have to take any actions
00:51:27.930 --> 00:51:30.480
it will show up as a bill
credit on their own bill.
00:51:31.410 --> 00:51:35.100
If we can move to the next slide,
00:51:35.100 --> 00:51:37.683
actually one critical
point on this last slide,
00:51:38.530 --> 00:51:41.500
as far as disconnections go,
00:51:41.500 --> 00:51:45.280
any customers that are
eligible for this program
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.750
cannot be disconnected
while the utility is
00:51:49.750 --> 00:51:53.170
going through the application
process to get the funds
00:51:53.170 --> 00:51:58.170
and then the IOUs cannot
disconnect any recipients of the
00:51:59.350 --> 00:52:04.040
funds for 90 days after
the credit is applied.
00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:07.631
So there are some protections
and safety nets against
00:52:07.631 --> 00:52:10.900
disconnection of these customers
00:52:10.900 --> 00:52:12.690
as we move through the process
00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:15.793
to get them their
bill credits next slide.
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.570
The by statute, the CAPP
program has priority groups
00:52:25.420 --> 00:52:30.420
on how to allocate the
funding at this moment in time,
00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:36.670
CSD is still working through
guidelines on how applications
00:52:36.810 --> 00:52:40.350
from the utilities should be
submitted and how that would
00:52:40.350 --> 00:52:44.203
apply to each of the
priority groups, next slide.
00:52:49.050 --> 00:52:52.540
Timeline for the CAPP program,
00:52:52.540 --> 00:52:55.230
actually just kind of
skipping to where we are now
00:52:55.230 --> 00:52:57.710
by the middle of this month,
00:52:57.710 --> 00:53:01.023
we expect CSD to open
the application window.
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.140
The window will close in mid
September or mid December
00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:10.510
and we expect in the statute requires
00:53:10.510 --> 00:53:14.600
that all the funds be distributed
by the utility by the end
00:53:14.600 --> 00:53:17.840
of January of next year, next slide
00:53:20.640 --> 00:53:22.720
and then now looking at two programs
00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:27.640
that the PUC has put in place
around arrearage management,
00:53:27.640 --> 00:53:29.903
the first one was approved,
00:53:29.903 --> 00:53:34.560
by the Commissioners by
you in June of this last year.
00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:38.190
But this is from a
proceeding in a process
00:53:38.190 --> 00:53:42.220
that was actually started
before COVID and applies
00:53:42.220 --> 00:53:47.220
and it's intended to work
for customers with I've had
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.270
trouble paying their bills over,
00:53:51.270 --> 00:53:52.763
long after we get,
00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:56.300
through the current
disconnection in COVID,
00:53:56.300 --> 00:53:59.670
it's a permanent
program out there there,
00:53:59.670 --> 00:54:04.580
and this program is set up to allow
00:54:04.580 --> 00:54:07.203
for the eligible customers out there,
00:54:08.260 --> 00:54:13.260
income based and based on how long your,
00:54:13.370 --> 00:54:16.210
your bills are past due
and the amount of money
00:54:16.210 --> 00:54:19.060
in your past to bill on there.
00:54:19.060 --> 00:54:20.650
But those customers will be enrolled
00:54:20.650 --> 00:54:23.233
in this arrearage management plan,
00:54:24.080 --> 00:54:29.080
where they will pay down a
portion of their back payment on
00:54:29.370 --> 00:54:33.943
their bill each month and as
they pay down on each month,
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.460
one 12th of their bill is forgiven.
00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:40.250
So if they are able to get on this plan
00:54:40.250 --> 00:54:42.083
and stay on these plans,
00:54:43.100 --> 00:54:48.100
they over time will actually
owe less than less out there as
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.460
part of the process and the hope would,
00:54:51.460 --> 00:54:55.490
these types of programs is
you were giving an affordable
00:54:55.490 --> 00:54:58.720
option to customers, so
they aren't disconnected.
00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:02.450
They aren't in default, but
also allowing the utilities,
00:55:02.450 --> 00:55:03.803
a path to recover,
00:55:04.850 --> 00:55:07.410
much more revenue
than they would if they had
00:55:07.410 --> 00:55:09.603
just disconnected the customer entirely.
00:55:11.997 --> 00:55:14.343
Kind of critically to know
when we talk about this
00:55:14.343 --> 00:55:16.500
in all of these programs I,
00:55:16.500 --> 00:55:19.440
we talk about it as the IOU customers,
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.583
the community choice
aggregator customers are,
00:55:23.940 --> 00:55:28.940
billed by the IOUs part
of their bill is to the IOU
00:55:29.130 --> 00:55:30.937
part of the bill to CCA
00:55:30.937 --> 00:55:32.617
and so for the generation point of this,
00:55:32.617 --> 00:55:36.670
the CCAs can choose to
participate in this program as well.
00:55:36.670 --> 00:55:37.563
Next slide.
00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:44.590
Early data from this program,
00:55:44.590 --> 00:55:49.290
the arrearage management
program just started
00:55:49.290 --> 00:55:52.960
so this shows you the
initial months of data
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.703
in terms of customer participation,
00:55:57.830 --> 00:56:01.760
amount of money that has been
forgiven so far minimum amount
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.820
of customers who've been
enrolled in the program
00:56:03.820 --> 00:56:08.020
that have been removed from
the program for nonpayment,
00:56:08.020 --> 00:56:12.210
given the kind of the
youngness of the program
00:56:12.210 --> 00:56:15.550
and there's really only
a few months of data.
00:56:15.550 --> 00:56:17.610
It's really impossible to
kind of look at anything at this
00:56:17.610 --> 00:56:22.220
point in time, in terms
of trends out there.
00:56:22.220 --> 00:56:24.260
We'd like to look at a longer-term data
00:56:24.260 --> 00:56:27.023
to note bigger trends, next slide.
00:56:30.100 --> 00:56:32.910
And then finally,
00:56:32.910 --> 00:56:37.910
in response to COVID and
understanding that very large
00:56:40.450 --> 00:56:45.450
disconnection are very
large amount of arrearage or
00:56:47.350 --> 00:56:50.730
unpaid bills for the
utilities out there,
00:56:50.730 --> 00:56:52.640
knowing that there are a lot
of customers that haven't paid
00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:54.830
their bills for very many, many months,
00:56:54.830 --> 00:56:56.480
have been unable to
pay their bills for many,
00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:01.480
many months that we needed
programs that gave them the tools
00:57:01.660 --> 00:57:02.860
to pay down their bills
00:57:02.860 --> 00:57:06.240
once they were expected to
do that beyond that arrearage
00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:08.310
management program that I just discussed
00:57:08.310 --> 00:57:10.640
with limited to low income customers.
00:57:10.640 --> 00:57:13.820
So this is another program
that the Commission approved
00:57:15.540 --> 00:57:18.143
this program is all residential
00:57:22.900 --> 00:57:25.370
and small commercial customers
00:57:25.370 --> 00:57:27.880
are eligible for this program
00:57:29.070 --> 00:57:33.523
any customer that
needs that has a preset
00:57:36.420 --> 00:57:39.600
or established amount of unpaid bills
00:57:39.600 --> 00:57:41.780
as of September 30th,
00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:44.390
will automatically be
enrolled in this program.
00:57:44.390 --> 00:57:47.330
They will be offered a
12 month payment plan
00:57:47.330 --> 00:57:48.653
to pay down their bills.
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:03.633
Yeah and then critically
on this exact number,
00:58:04.750 --> 00:58:08.360
there's also prohibitions
on disconnection
00:58:11.210 --> 00:58:14.590
if they are enrolled in this
plan and continue to make
00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:17.500
payments in this plan and
can only be disconnected
00:58:17.500 --> 00:58:20.870
if they haven't made a
payments under the new plan
00:58:20.870 --> 00:58:24.573
for three months so next slide.
00:58:25.820 --> 00:58:29.360
Ed I just wanted to maybe
do a friendly amendment there.
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.990
I think you were on the side
of what was in place for the
00:58:31.990 --> 00:58:36.990
previous disconnections
order in June of 2020,
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.920
and this COVID protection
in 24 months, either defaulted,
00:58:43.820 --> 00:58:47.580
into they have been defaulted
except for the extension
00:58:47.580 --> 00:58:48.673
to a 24-month plan.
00:58:49.680 --> 00:58:51.300
Yep thank you.
00:58:51.300 --> 00:58:54.260
That's why I was confused
at the slide I was looking at.
00:58:54.260 --> 00:58:55.160
I appreciate that.
00:58:56.350 --> 00:58:58.733
So now we are on the right slide for,
00:59:00.271 --> 00:59:02.290
the COVID protection plan
00:59:02.290 --> 00:59:07.080
and as I've, as I said,
yeah, this is for customers,
00:59:07.080 --> 00:59:11.763
residential and small business
customers who have unpaid
00:59:12.810 --> 00:59:17.810
bills at 60 days or more
as of the 30th of September
00:59:18.950 --> 00:59:21.830
of this year, they're
enrolled on a 20 months,
00:59:21.830 --> 00:59:23.520
24 month payment plan
00:59:24.930 --> 00:59:27.727
and there are the
additional prohibitions
00:59:33.590 --> 00:59:36.620
on disconnect for the
customers in a role in these plans
00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:41.206
until and unless they've
missed up to three months
00:59:41.206 --> 00:59:42.350
of the payments,
00:59:42.350 --> 00:59:47.100
and then you can use the
capitalistic model for any the CAPP
00:59:47.100 --> 00:59:49.180
money for those eligible customers
00:59:49.180 --> 00:59:51.090
to also help pay down these bills.
00:59:51.090 --> 00:59:52.033
Next slide please.
00:59:58.220 --> 01:00:03.080
And this is a list of non-CPUC
programs that are also out
01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:08.080
there to help with energy
assistance programs for folks that
01:00:09.290 --> 01:00:11.980
need the additional assistance out there
01:00:11.980 --> 01:00:14.513
and I think this is the
last slide next slide.
01:00:18.420 --> 01:00:21.100
Yeah and I won't go through
these specific examples,
01:00:21.100 --> 01:00:22.020
they're good illustrative,
01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:26.480
examples of customers
under different situations
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:31.470
and how they might be
impacted by these programs
01:00:31.470 --> 01:00:33.350
kind of on a broad sense.
01:00:33.350 --> 01:00:38.350
You have a customer
who couldn't pay their bill
01:00:40.550 --> 01:00:44.820
from August to November in the last year
01:00:44.820 --> 01:00:46.863
and has an unpaid balance of $500.
01:00:50.830 --> 01:00:53.750
Should be automatically
enrolled in the COVID
01:00:54.623 --> 01:00:56.430
arrearage management program
01:00:57.323 --> 01:00:59.990
and that would bring what
she owes per month for that past
01:00:59.990 --> 01:01:04.990
usage to $17 a month
out there, a care customer,
01:01:05.750 --> 01:01:10.750
it has $1,200 in unpaid
bills can be enrolled
01:01:13.344 --> 01:01:15.660
and the AMP program
01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:19.650
and as each month that they're
paying down that bill they'll
01:01:19.650 --> 01:01:22.570
have $100 forgiven off that bill.
01:01:22.570 --> 01:01:23.840
That's also,
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.293
if that customer is not
enrolled in the CAP program,
01:01:28.350 --> 01:01:30.560
and then, you have a small business
01:01:31.790 --> 01:01:34.273
that has $4,000 in unpaid bills,
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.420
they could be enrolled in
the program where ultimately
01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:44.170
they'll need to only pay $133
a month over the period to
01:01:44.170 --> 01:01:47.290
meet their, to pay down their bills
01:01:47.290 --> 01:01:48.720
and then more important to you
01:01:48.720 --> 01:01:50.680
if you're still trying to figure
out how to show a graph
01:01:50.680 --> 01:01:52.143
that shows all of this,
01:01:53.850 --> 01:01:55.670
there is almost no customer,
01:01:55.670 --> 01:01:58.240
there's no residential
customer out there
01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:03.240
who when the moratorium
was lifted last week,
01:02:06.120 --> 01:02:09.630
who would actually be
subject to a disconnection
01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:14.570
immediately, the overlay
of all of these programs in
01:02:14.570 --> 01:02:18.970
the periods and the
requirements on the utilities,
01:02:18.970 --> 01:02:21.810
to not disconnect customers
01:02:21.810 --> 01:02:23.780
who were actively participating in
01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:26.760
these programs and
paying down their bills
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:27.940
mean at the earliest,
01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:30.490
somebody could be
disconnected would be the
01:02:30.490 --> 01:02:33.250
end of this year, early next year.
01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:35.720
But as long as the customers
are paying the minimum
01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:38.643
amount in, arrearage
management programs,
01:02:39.500 --> 01:02:41.380
they will not be disconnected
01:02:41.380 --> 01:02:43.763
and with that, I'm
available for questions.
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:52.610
Are there any
questions of Ed or Rachel
01:02:52.610 --> 01:02:54.343
from the earlier presentation?
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.883
Okay yes Commissioner Shiroma.
01:03:01.650 --> 01:03:05.270
Not a question, but a kudos.
01:03:05.270 --> 01:03:09.667
When you think about March of 2020, and
01:03:11.910 --> 01:03:16.140
the teams that kicked
into gear immediately,
01:03:16.140 --> 01:03:21.140
as Ed said with really not
skipping a beat in looking at
01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:26.300
keeping our work on pace
and looking at what needs to be
01:03:27.050 --> 01:03:31.670
done, to provide core relief
for residential commercial,
01:03:31.670 --> 01:03:36.570
for the energy savings workers
01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:39.910
towards navigating the pandemic.
01:03:39.910 --> 01:03:44.470
It really is a testimonial
to that the CPUC
01:03:45.930 --> 01:03:49.573
and the utilities that they regulate,
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.380
can do things pretty quickly.
01:03:54.380 --> 01:03:59.380
We as state government,
oftentimes are painted with,
01:04:01.160 --> 01:04:04.410
the review that we are are very slow,
01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:07.740
that we move into snail space
was this presentation today
01:04:07.740 --> 01:04:08.993
really shows that,
01:04:11.705 --> 01:04:14.470
when there is that when there are issues
01:04:14.470 --> 01:04:17.830
right at our doorstep, we
stand ready to address them.
01:04:17.830 --> 01:04:21.100
So thank you and the work continues
01:04:21.100 --> 01:04:24.000
and we have a lot more to
do so thank you very much
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.273
for the presentation.
01:04:26.230 --> 01:04:27.800
Thank you President Batjer.
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:28.660
Yes thank you.
01:04:28.660 --> 01:04:30.267
Yes Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:04:31.340 --> 01:04:33.807
Yes thank you very
much for the work
01:04:33.807 --> 01:04:36.690
and I know all of our divisions
have been doing just such
01:04:36.690 --> 01:04:38.563
tremendous work during this time,
01:04:39.508 --> 01:04:43.850
just to acknowledge that the
worker's gonna continue as
01:04:43.850 --> 01:04:45.524
Ed pointed out here.
01:04:45.524 --> 01:04:50.524
There's, if we're lucky we're
gonna have the CSD funding,
01:04:51.110 --> 01:04:55.010
perhaps cover half of the
debt, that it has a crude
01:04:56.010 --> 01:04:59.820
and so we're still gonna
need more work together with
01:04:59.820 --> 01:05:02.360
our customers and our utilities
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:05.650
and I hope that we can retain
the collaborative approach
01:05:05.650 --> 01:05:09.521
that's been taking place with
utilities and their customers
01:05:09.521 --> 01:05:12.253
and without the tool of disconnection.
01:05:13.300 --> 01:05:18.300
So this will be a new phase of
how to maybe maintain a less
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:23.923
punitive approach to getting
customers back on track.
01:05:25.190 --> 01:05:27.510
So I wanted to just acknowledge that
01:05:27.510 --> 01:05:30.480
and also in the COVID proceeding,
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.190
we still have issues
that we are looking at.
01:05:34.190 --> 01:05:38.730
Obviously the remaining
arrears is one of those issues,
01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:42.670
but also a more timely
issue that we're looking at that
01:05:42.670 --> 01:05:46.360
recently came up at
the IOB last week again,
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:51.290
is this issue of having the
tools to work with customers,
01:05:51.290 --> 01:05:53.840
more of a case management approach
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:56.100
and as we heard today in our,
01:05:56.100 --> 01:05:58.110
a little bit of confusion on the default
01:05:58.110 --> 01:05:59.640
of the payment plans,
01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:03.500
just as an example that we
have put in a lot of protections
01:06:03.500 --> 01:06:07.322
and options in place that
they're really individualized
01:06:07.322 --> 01:06:12.322
and so we need a closer
approach to our customers.
01:06:13.470 --> 01:06:18.380
So I hope to be developing
that soon with the help of the
01:06:18.380 --> 01:06:21.372
energy division and with the help of our
01:06:21.372 --> 01:06:22.480
Stephanie Greenshop
01:06:23.560 --> 01:06:25.280
and just wanted to highlight that
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.610
and really acknowledged
just the continued work
01:06:29.610 --> 01:06:31.650
that's gonna be happening,
01:06:31.650 --> 01:06:34.363
especially as we
start to face this reality,
01:06:35.268 --> 01:06:39.397
of disconnections
looming again thank you.
01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:44.223
Yes Commissioner Houck.
01:06:45.380 --> 01:06:47.190
Just briefly I just
wanted to thank,
01:06:47.190 --> 01:06:50.870
Ed and the staff for all
their work on this proceeding,
01:06:50.870 --> 01:06:53.000
as the assigned Commissioner
on the disconnections
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.430
proceeding and decade with
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:06:56.430 --> 01:06:59.925
on the arrearages I know
firsthand how hard staff
01:06:59.925 --> 01:07:01.963
has been working in there.
01:07:02.861 --> 01:07:04.280
There's still work to do clearly
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.340
as Commissioner Guzman Aceves said,
01:07:06.340 --> 01:07:09.500
that I really wanted to
commend staff for how intelligent
01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:13.664
they've been in stepping
up in such a unique
01:07:13.664 --> 01:07:17.007
and difficult circumstance so thank you.
01:07:19.305 --> 01:07:20.638
Thank you okay
01:07:22.770 --> 01:07:26.470
I wanna add my thanks of
course, to the energy Commission,
01:07:26.470 --> 01:07:30.347
staff and energy
division staff, excuse me
01:07:30.347 --> 01:07:35.250
and also thank you for your leadership,
01:07:35.250 --> 01:07:36.600
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
01:07:39.230 --> 01:07:40.780
you have done along
with Commissioner Houck,
01:07:40.780 --> 01:07:44.090
a terrific job on these proceedings,
01:07:44.090 --> 01:07:46.190
not only being a thought leader,
01:07:46.190 --> 01:07:50.040
but being a kind hearted thought
leader and how we needed to
01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:51.700
deal with these very difficult things.
01:07:51.700 --> 01:07:52.850
So thank you, Ed.
01:07:52.850 --> 01:07:54.480
Thank you for your team.
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.260
Thank you, Rachel Peterson
01:07:56.260 --> 01:07:58.750
for your wonderful leadership as well.
01:07:58.750 --> 01:08:01.160
I appreciate it all very, very much.
01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:05.593
Okay we will now move on in the agenda.
01:08:07.990 --> 01:08:12.990
First I would like to read the
changes in today's agenda.
01:08:17.750 --> 01:08:21.250
So item number three will be held
01:08:21.250 --> 01:08:26.000
until October 21st, 2021
Commission meeting,
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:29.640
item number six will also be held until
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.060
October 21, 2021 Commission meeting.
01:08:34.060 --> 01:08:39.060
Item 12 will be held until
October 21, 2021 meeting,
01:08:40.320 --> 01:08:42.840
item 13 will be held also
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:47.087
until October 21st, 2021
Commission meeting
01:08:47.087 --> 01:08:52.087
and item 27 will be taken
up with the Consent Agenda.
01:08:53.830 --> 01:08:55.590
Item number three,
01:08:55.590 --> 01:08:59.720
on today's meeting agenda
was subject to a rate setting,
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:04.600
deliberative meetings
an RDM and a hold to the
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:08.580
October 21st voting meeting
was as been requested and
01:09:08.580 --> 01:09:11.520
granted as I just remarked.
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.873
As a result of this item,
01:09:15.228 --> 01:09:18.880
as a result decided will
be subject to a default
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.860
ex-parte quiet period,
01:09:20.860 --> 01:09:25.860
pursuant to public utilities
code section 1701.3H6
01:09:29.040 --> 01:09:32.050
This item may be subject
to additional quiet time,
01:09:32.050 --> 01:09:35.933
If the Commission chooses
to extend the default quiet time.
01:09:37.610 --> 01:09:42.040
The default quiet time
is as follows, no oral
01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:44.540
or written ex-parte communications
01:09:44.540 --> 01:09:48.540
will be allowed from October 4th, 2021
01:09:48.540 --> 01:09:53.540
to the end of the October
7th, 2021 voting meeting,
01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:59.020
no oral or written ex-parte
communications will be allowed
01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:03.430
starting October 18th,
2021 to the end of
01:10:03.430 --> 01:10:07.900
October 21st, 2021 voting meeting.
01:10:07.900 --> 01:10:10.860
If the Commission
establishes additional quiet time
01:10:10.860 --> 01:10:12.210
for this item,
01:10:12.210 --> 01:10:16.220
oral or written ex-parte
communications will be restricted
01:10:16.220 --> 01:10:19.083
during that additional quiet time.
01:10:19.980 --> 01:10:21.850
If this item is held again,
01:10:21.850 --> 01:10:24.720
the Commission will
continue to have the ability to
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:29.533
establish further
ex-parte quiet periods.
01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:36.260
Okay with that, we will then
take up the consent items.
01:10:36.410 --> 01:10:38.283
Is there a motion?
01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:41.610
So moved.
01:10:41.610 --> 01:10:45.643
Okay and second has
been moved and seconded.
01:10:46.888 --> 01:10:48.510
We'll move the agenda clerk,
01:10:48.510 --> 01:10:51.763
please call the role
on the consent items.
01:10:53.910 --> 01:10:54.960
Commissioner Houck.
01:10:57.690 --> 01:10:58.523
Yes.
01:10:59.767 --> 01:11:01.700
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:11:01.700 --> 01:11:02.533
Aye.
01:11:03.900 --> 01:11:06.270
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:07.103
Yes.
01:11:08.030 --> 01:11:09.898
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:11:09.898 --> 01:11:10.731
Aye.
01:11:12.099 --> 01:11:13.759
President Batjer.
01:11:13.759 --> 01:11:14.592
Aye.
01:11:14.592 --> 01:11:17.270
The Consent Agenda items
have been passed unanimously.
01:11:17.270 --> 01:11:18.103
Thank you.
01:11:19.157 --> 01:11:22.193
We will now take up
the regular agenda items.
01:11:23.770 --> 01:11:27.563
Item number 22 is assigned
to Commission Houck.
01:11:29.730 --> 01:11:31.230
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:11:32.130 --> 01:11:34.630
So prior to my assignment
to this proceeding,
01:11:34.630 --> 01:11:36.912
I just wanna note that a
tremendous amount of work went
01:11:36.912 --> 01:11:39.700
into the development of the mechanisms
01:11:39.700 --> 01:11:42.290
to minimize customer disconnections.
01:11:42.290 --> 01:11:45.930
Staff has worked hard to
meet the mandates of SB 598 to
01:11:45.930 --> 01:11:49.600
protect rate payers from
disconnections as evidenced by the
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.940
phase one decision
from June of last year,
01:11:51.940 --> 01:11:56.940
which was referenced by Ed
Randolph in the presentation
01:11:58.300 --> 01:11:59.370
that we just heard
01:11:59.370 --> 01:12:02.710
and as well as the proposed
decision before us today,
01:12:02.710 --> 01:12:07.100
I'd like to thank the assigned
judge, judge Wang for all of
01:12:07.100 --> 01:12:08.920
her great work on this proceeding,
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:12.260
energy division staff Ben
Menzies and Paul Phillips
01:12:12.260 --> 01:12:14.180
and legal divisions, Christopher Cho
01:12:14.180 --> 01:12:16.410
for prioritizing this matter,
01:12:16.410 --> 01:12:19.210
as well as Sarah Thomas
and legal division and judge
01:12:19.210 --> 01:12:22.500
Gerald Kelly for their work
earlier in the proceeding.
01:12:22.500 --> 01:12:26.300
I also wanna thank my advisors
McBrown and Kathleen Yips
01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:29.080
for all of their work
in support of the PD
01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:32.730
and I wanna particularly
thank and recognize the
01:12:32.730 --> 01:12:35.850
leadership of my BK partner,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
01:12:35.850 --> 01:12:39.200
and her office for all of
the contributions to this
01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:44.200
proceeding and for all of
their creativity and being able to
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:49.260
hand off something to me
that was already in process.
01:12:49.260 --> 01:12:53.110
This order instituting
rulemaking was open to address
01:12:53.110 --> 01:12:56.190
disconnection rates across
California's electric and gas
01:12:56.190 --> 01:12:57.980
investor owned utilities.
01:12:57.980 --> 01:13:01.330
The proposed decision if
approved creates a pilot program
01:13:01.330 --> 01:13:04.450
that will result in reduction
of disconnections and improve
01:13:04.450 --> 01:13:08.710
reconnection processes and
outcomes for customers at risk.
01:13:08.710 --> 01:13:11.120
As set forth in the order
of the ramifications of
01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:13.720
disconnections for
customers can be far reaching,
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.680
including disruption of
normal daily activities.
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:20.070
Energy access is critical to
economic and social stability
01:13:20.070 --> 01:13:23.260
and wellbeing even after a
customer's paid their balance
01:13:23.260 --> 01:13:24.680
the reconnection process,
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.430
particularly for gas service
can be time consuming
01:13:27.430 --> 01:13:31.060
and costly disconnection
rates and the years proceeding,
01:13:31.060 --> 01:13:32.640
the pandemic were increasing,
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.190
which resulted in the
adoption of this OIR in 2018,
01:13:36.820 --> 01:13:40.010
COVID-19 has greatly increased
the number of customers that
01:13:40.010 --> 01:13:42.390
are unable to pay their
electric and gas bills,
01:13:42.390 --> 01:13:45.410
and may still be at risk of
disconnections without programs
01:13:45.410 --> 01:13:48.280
such as AMPs and the
proposed programs set forth
01:13:48.280 --> 01:13:52.300
in this PD, but proposed
decision directs,
01:13:52.300 --> 01:13:55.050
PG&E, SCG&E, SCE and SoCalGas
01:13:56.550 --> 01:13:59.210
to implement percentage
of income payment plans
01:13:59.210 --> 01:14:03.140
or PIP pilot programs
to help reduce residential
01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:06.160
disconnections of
electric and gas service.
01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:09.090
PIP is a program that says
the participants utility bill
01:14:09.090 --> 01:14:11.190
payment amounts in an affordable
01:14:11.190 --> 01:14:13.680
of the participants monthly income.
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.930
Participants will receive
a monthly bill CAPP
01:14:15.930 --> 01:14:16.900
for current charges
01:14:16.900 --> 01:14:20.070
based on 4% of their
household monthly income.
01:14:20.070 --> 01:14:22.850
Customers of the large
IOUs and participating
01:14:22.850 --> 01:14:26.450
CPAs who enrolled in the care program
01:14:26.450 --> 01:14:27.970
are eligible for the pilots,
01:14:27.970 --> 01:14:30.810
if they are located in good
codes with the highest rates of
01:14:30.810 --> 01:14:34.240
disconnections or were
disconnected two or more times during
01:14:34.240 --> 01:14:38.130
the 12 months prior to the
disconnection moratorium,
01:14:38.130 --> 01:14:40.830
these are four year pilots
and we'll test whether a PIP
01:14:40.830 --> 01:14:43.560
program can reduce the
number of low-income households
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.310
at risk of disconnection,
01:14:45.310 --> 01:14:47.600
encourage participation
in energy savings
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:49.710
and energy management programs,
01:14:49.710 --> 01:14:51.710
increase access to essential levels of
01:14:51.710 --> 01:14:54.920
energy service and
control program costs.
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:57.520
This program was initially
envisioned and developed
01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.770
by my BK partner,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:15:00.610 --> 01:15:01.840
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.210
and her office have
worked closely with my office
01:15:04.210 --> 01:15:06.790
on finalizing this PD and again,
01:15:06.790 --> 01:15:10.360
I want to thank her for all
of the work that she's done in
01:15:10.360 --> 01:15:13.140
this proceeding and would
like to ask her to provide further
01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:15.293
comments and background on this item.
01:15:27.080 --> 01:15:28.910
Yes thank you.
01:15:28.910 --> 01:15:31.280
Thank you Commissioner Houck.
01:15:31.280 --> 01:15:33.000
It's really nice to see
01:15:34.860 --> 01:15:38.000
this is the benefit of democracy
and having new voices and
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:43.000
new visions, taking over
ideas and making them better
01:15:43.250 --> 01:15:45.730
and I wanna thank Mr. Houck for that
01:15:45.730 --> 01:15:49.760
and certainly Judge Wang
and all the energy division staff
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:51.858
that has done just that.
01:15:51.858 --> 01:15:56.858
I do also wanna thank really
the community organizations
01:15:57.160 --> 01:15:58.810
that brought this concept forward
01:15:59.910 --> 01:16:03.020
and like some of our other areas,
01:16:03.020 --> 01:16:06.939
this is another area that
California is not leading on,
01:16:06.939 --> 01:16:10.770
many states that have utilities
that offer these programs
01:16:10.770 --> 01:16:14.780
and have offered them for
some time, Colorado, Illinois,
01:16:14.780 --> 01:16:18.710
Nevada, and New Jersey, Ohio,
Pennsylvania, to name a few.
01:16:18.710 --> 01:16:21.770
I know there's much more
in the Northeast and really it's
01:16:21.770 --> 01:16:25.100
the recognition that there
are a subset of customers
01:16:25.100 --> 01:16:27.900
that are extremely low income.
01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:30.250
Some of the demographics of
the other states have shown that
01:16:30.250 --> 01:16:32.860
they're usually elderly customers,
01:16:32.860 --> 01:16:35.120
very limited fixed income,
01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:37.570
and they simply cannot afford to pay.
01:16:37.570 --> 01:16:40.010
They do not have the disposable income.
01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:43.260
They can't afford to pay
for the entirety of their bills
01:16:43.260 --> 01:16:45.331
and this is a dynamic that,
01:16:45.331 --> 01:16:48.763
the hypothesis of
this whole pilot is that,
01:16:50.570 --> 01:16:54.100
we had an unfortunate
situation is most likely prevalent in
01:16:54.100 --> 01:16:58.550
extreme heat areas with
these elderly customers.
01:16:58.550 --> 01:17:00.200
So I'm very excited to be finally
01:17:01.559 --> 01:17:05.770
pushing this load out
today with great enthusiasm,
01:17:05.770 --> 01:17:09.190
as we see the extreme
heat that continues to grow
01:17:09.190 --> 01:17:14.010
and the sub-population that as
Commissioner Houck mentioned,
01:17:14.010 --> 01:17:17.657
has been dealing with
disconnections in a chronic way,
01:17:17.657 --> 01:17:20.750
and really another
identification of them being
01:17:20.750 --> 01:17:23.193
a subset of customers that is,
01:17:23.193 --> 01:17:25.743
that should be targeted
for this type of program.
01:17:26.930 --> 01:17:30.190
And I want to just highlight
that having these fresh eyes on
01:17:30.190 --> 01:17:33.830
this proposal allowed us
to really incorporate other
01:17:33.830 --> 01:17:37.040
proceedings work such as
the affordability proceedings,
01:17:37.040 --> 01:17:41.090
as well as just looking at some
of the results from the more
01:17:41.090 --> 01:17:45.083
recent findings of customers
dealing with disconnection.
01:17:45.950 --> 01:17:46.783
So one,
01:17:46.783 --> 01:17:51.290
I really think judge Wang and
energy division Ben Menzies
01:17:51.290 --> 01:17:53.250
and Paul Phillips for their work on that
01:17:53.250 --> 01:17:55.570
and of course, as
Commissioner Houck mentioned,
01:17:55.570 --> 01:17:59.780
I wanna thank, work that
brought this about in particular,
01:17:59.780 --> 01:18:01.870
I wanna recognize the
Administrative Law Judge,
01:18:01.870 --> 01:18:03.240
Gerald Kelly,
01:18:03.240 --> 01:18:08.240
that put in a few years into
this proceeding and just really
01:18:08.700 --> 01:18:11.828
led in the innovation and
hearing from communities
01:18:11.828 --> 01:18:16.120
and doing the extra work
on our end to take their ideas,
01:18:16.120 --> 01:18:18.180
build it into making a ruling
01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:19.740
and putting it into the record.
01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:21.960
Things that some of these
organizations don't have the
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:23.540
capacity to do.
01:18:23.540 --> 01:18:25.684
So I want to thank him for that.
01:18:25.684 --> 01:18:26.517
I also wanna thank
01:18:26.517 --> 01:18:29.890
my former chiefs of
staff Adenika Adeyeye,
01:18:29.890 --> 01:18:32.860
who really did most
of the drafting of this
01:18:32.860 --> 01:18:35.150
looking at all these state's programs,
01:18:35.150 --> 01:18:37.320
looking at all the comments
from the stakeholders
01:18:37.320 --> 01:18:40.910
and the parties and putting
the first proposal together
01:18:40.910 --> 01:18:42.730
over a year ago.
01:18:42.730 --> 01:18:47.540
So, and then of course my
current advisor on this topic,
01:18:47.540 --> 01:18:51.960
Justin Fong, who has
been just incredible
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:53.940
to try to manage all of these issues,
01:18:53.940 --> 01:18:56.870
dealing with COVID years in particular,
01:18:56.870 --> 01:18:59.280
in all of these great solutions.
01:18:59.280 --> 01:19:02.000
So thank you Commissioner
Houck for your leadership in
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:05.510
getting this across and
to your staff, Kathleen Yip,
01:19:05.510 --> 01:19:06.840
and everyone that you mentioned,
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:08.503
including Christopher Shel.
01:19:09.380 --> 01:19:11.830
Thank you very much I
look forward to supporting.
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:17.753
Thank you any other
yes Commissioner Shiroma.
01:19:19.530 --> 01:19:21.280
Yes thank you President Batjer.
01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:23.640
I support this proposed decision
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.480
thank you Commissioner Houck,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:32.013
there's Wang and the team
in designing this PIP pilot,
01:19:33.080 --> 01:19:36.130
it will advance our knowledge and tools
01:19:36.130 --> 01:19:39.740
towards providing stable
bills and peace of mind.
01:19:39.740 --> 01:19:44.220
I really appreciate too the PD speaking
01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:47.610
to close coordination between this pilot
01:19:47.610 --> 01:19:51.250
and the ISA and lyheep programs
01:19:51.250 --> 01:19:55.470
towards really linking
up those synergies.
01:19:55.470 --> 01:19:56.870
Again thank you.
01:19:56.870 --> 01:20:00.333
I look forward to supporting
this proposed decision.
01:20:02.246 --> 01:20:05.950
Thank you yes
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:20:05.950 --> 01:20:07.300
Thank you (clears
throat) excuse me.
01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:11.690
I wanna echo the thanks and
appreciation for everyone who
01:20:11.690 --> 01:20:16.010
worked on this and in
particular Commissioners Houck,
01:20:16.010 --> 01:20:19.040
and Guzman Aceves, judge Wang,
01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:21.690
and then these Paul Phillips and others.
01:20:21.690 --> 01:20:26.460
It's a very creative
program is innovative,
01:20:26.460 --> 01:20:29.280
even though as Commissioner
Guzman says points out,
01:20:29.280 --> 01:20:30.580
there are a number of other states
01:20:30.580 --> 01:20:34.150
that have adopted similar programs.
01:20:34.150 --> 01:20:36.900
Without belaboring the
points that have already made
01:20:36.900 --> 01:20:41.400
it is very important to
note that this is a problem
01:20:41.400 --> 01:20:45.400
that predates the
pandemic, too many utility,
01:20:45.400 --> 01:20:49.180
too many of our customers
struggle to afford their utility
01:20:49.180 --> 01:20:52.601
bills and face this
connection as a result
01:20:52.601 --> 01:20:56.890
and this is despite the fact
that we have very generous
01:20:56.890 --> 01:21:00.360
and well subscribed
consumer subsidy programs.
01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:04.540
There are still people
falling through the cracks.
01:21:04.540 --> 01:21:07.763
This was made very
clear in the Commissions,
01:21:07.763 --> 01:21:12.120
relatively recent affordability report,
01:21:12.120 --> 01:21:16.290
where we highlighted some
of the hardships that are lower
01:21:16.290 --> 01:21:20.470
income rate payers
states the kind of customers
01:21:20.470 --> 01:21:22.540
that Commissioner
Guzman Aceves mentioned
01:21:22.540 --> 01:21:25.380
and just for example,
01:21:25.380 --> 01:21:30.380
we found that 13% of lower
income households spend more than
01:21:30.450 --> 01:21:35.450
15% of their disposable
income on electricity,
01:21:36.940 --> 01:21:40.540
11% pay over a third of
their disposable income on
01:21:40.540 --> 01:21:42.170
utility services.
01:21:42.170 --> 01:21:46.210
So there are real
hardships that people face.
01:21:46.210 --> 01:21:50.910
This is an excellent compliment
to the many programs,
01:21:50.910 --> 01:21:53.990
including the loan, forgiveness
arrearage management program
01:21:53.990 --> 01:21:57.730
that director Randolph talked about.
01:21:57.730 --> 01:22:01.820
We hopefully with
the pilot customers will
01:22:01.820 --> 01:22:03.440
not just see lower bill,
01:22:03.440 --> 01:22:08.430
but reduce this connection
fewer missed this payment.
01:22:08.430 --> 01:22:13.430
So I'm very happy to support
this and appreciative of all
01:22:13.580 --> 01:22:16.503
the work that was done
to get it ready, thank you.
01:22:18.300 --> 01:22:20.783
Thank you, any other comments?
01:22:21.900 --> 01:22:24.300
Okay seeing none will the agenda clerk
01:22:24.300 --> 01:22:26.603
please call the roll for item 22.
01:22:27.740 --> 01:22:28.790
Commissioner Houck.
01:22:30.517 --> 01:22:31.350
Yes.
01:22:32.981 --> 01:22:34.780
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:22:34.780 --> 01:22:35.613
Aye.
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:38.410
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:22:38.410 --> 01:22:39.990
Yes.
01:22:39.990 --> 01:22:41.440
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:22:42.561 --> 01:22:43.394
Aye.
01:22:44.285 --> 01:22:46.073
President Batjer.
01:22:46.073 --> 01:22:47.120
Aye.
01:22:47.120 --> 01:22:50.690
The item number 22 passes unanimously.
01:22:50.690 --> 01:22:53.020
Thank you for all the hard work,
01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:56.303
on this to all staff and Commissioners.
01:22:57.323 --> 01:22:59.010
Item 23 is assigned to me and it says
01:23:01.780 --> 01:23:04.060
the Order Instituting Rulemaking OIR
01:23:06.240 --> 01:23:09.450
to develop safety culture
assessments for the electric
01:23:09.450 --> 01:23:11.410
and natural gas utilities.
01:23:11.410 --> 01:23:15.630
The OIR will implement
requirements of the state law
01:23:15.630 --> 01:23:17.770
and build upon Commission rulings,
01:23:17.770 --> 01:23:20.763
directing us to strive
for greater utility safety.
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:26.360
The OIR will help us do this
by developing and adopting a
01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:30.500
safety culture assessment
framework for regulated investor
01:23:30.500 --> 01:23:35.080
owned utilities, Senate bill 901,
01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:38.540
directed the Commission
to establish a safety culture
01:23:38.540 --> 01:23:42.260
assessment for each electrical
corporation conducted by an
01:23:42.260 --> 01:23:44.960
independent third party evaluator.
01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.760
SB 901 also required
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:51.180
that the Commission set a
schedule for each assessment,
01:23:51.180 --> 01:23:53.770
including updates to the assessment,
01:23:53.770 --> 01:23:56.400
at least every five years.
01:23:56.400 --> 01:23:59.750
Additionally, it prohibits
the electrical corporations
01:23:59.750 --> 01:24:01.310
from seeking reimbursement
01:24:01.310 --> 01:24:04.160
for the cost of the
safety culture assessment
01:24:04.160 --> 01:24:05.550
from rate payers.
01:24:05.550 --> 01:24:07.980
The Commission will
utilize this proceeding
01:24:07.980 --> 01:24:11.029
to effectively implement SB 901,
01:24:11.029 --> 01:24:14.770
any relevant public
utility code sections,
01:24:14.770 --> 01:24:18.960
which direct the Commission
and each natural gas corporation
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:22.410
to make safety of the public
and gas corporation employees
01:24:22.410 --> 01:24:24.610
the top priority.
01:24:24.610 --> 01:24:27.050
Safety culture is an organization's
01:24:27.050 --> 01:24:29.670
values, principles, beliefs,
01:24:29.670 --> 01:24:33.820
and norms shared by
individuals within the organization,
01:24:33.820 --> 01:24:38.250
manifested through their
planning, behaviors and actions.
01:24:38.250 --> 01:24:41.600
It shows how all members of
an organization work towards
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:43.980
safe operations on a daily basis,
01:24:43.980 --> 01:24:47.960
and how that translates
into safety outcomes.
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:52.730
To be effective safety
culture requires ongoing review
01:24:52.730 --> 01:24:54.130
and refinement.
01:24:54.130 --> 01:24:57.820
This OIR will allow us to
build upon past efforts and
01:24:57.820 --> 01:25:01.700
improve upon safety
culture of the utilities
01:25:01.700 --> 01:25:06.700
under our jurisdiction, all
large electrical corporations,
01:25:07.330 --> 01:25:10.920
small multi-jurisdictional
electrical corporations,
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:15.620
large natural gas corporations
and gas storage operators
01:25:15.620 --> 01:25:20.070
regulated by the Commission
will be required to conduct
01:25:20.070 --> 01:25:22.220
safety culture assessment
01:25:22.220 --> 01:25:25.683
and this OIR will determine
their scope and schedule.
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:30.840
Emission of the CPUC is to
ensure that consumers have safe,
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:34.393
reliable utility services
at reasonable rates.
01:25:35.420 --> 01:25:39.070
This OIR will help us fulfill
that mission by requiring
01:25:39.070 --> 01:25:42.640
utilities to proactively
prioritize safety,
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.053
to better serve the public.
01:25:44.980 --> 01:25:48.190
I would like to thank all of
the CPUC staff who worked so
01:25:48.190 --> 01:25:53.190
diligently on drafting this
OIR from the ALJ division,
01:25:53.690 --> 01:25:56.800
Colin Rizzo from the
safety policy division,
01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:01.570
Dan Baut, Benjamin Turner, Zava
Gree, Emma Johnson, Ken Cost
01:26:03.878 --> 01:26:07.970
Carolina Van Peres, Alex
Penida and Rich White
01:26:09.400 --> 01:26:11.360
from the legal division,
01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:15.360
Jaylen Lemay, and from my
own office, my chief of staff,
01:26:15.360 --> 01:26:19.373
Shannon O'Rourke and
my advisor, Nico Churchill,
01:26:20.380 --> 01:26:21.840
Shell, excuse me.
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.790
I would like to ask, of course,
01:26:23.790 --> 01:26:28.790
all of your support
for this OIR thank you.
01:26:29.007 --> 01:26:31.173
Are there any questions or comments?
01:26:33.370 --> 01:26:35.963
Yes Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:26:37.290 --> 01:26:39.473
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:26:39.473 --> 01:26:43.880
This is an important
rulemaking to set standards and
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:48.380
expectations to institutionalize
safety culture assessment
01:26:48.380 --> 01:26:49.543
for our utilities.
01:26:51.030 --> 01:26:54.460
Safety culture is it's inherently
01:26:54.460 --> 01:26:56.560
difficult to evaluate,
01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.423
to monitor over time to know
exactly what's being done.
01:27:01.410 --> 01:27:05.250
Establishing best practices
for industries is very,
01:27:05.250 --> 01:27:06.623
very good policy.
01:27:07.462 --> 01:27:10.310
As the rulemaking notes
01:27:10.310 --> 01:27:14.320
we have a good foundation
in place right now already.
01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:19.230
We have ongoing safety,
cultural assessments of PG&E,
01:27:19.230 --> 01:27:21.543
as well as SoCalGas and Sempra,
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:26.890
as well as the framework
developed by our colleagues at the
01:27:26.890 --> 01:27:30.980
office of energy infrastructure safety.
01:27:30.980 --> 01:27:33.810
I just wanna mention
in terms of the process,
01:27:33.810 --> 01:27:38.401
I agree with the recommendation
to use workshops and staff
01:27:38.401 --> 01:27:43.401
proposal to develop the
overall safety culture framework.
01:27:45.300 --> 01:27:47.730
We early on in 2019,
01:27:47.730 --> 01:27:51.690
we had a very informative
workshop when we were examining
01:27:51.690 --> 01:27:55.730
what kind of safety culture and
safety approaches we should
01:27:55.730 --> 01:27:57.710
use with respect to PG&E.
01:27:57.710 --> 01:27:59.110
We had outside experts in
01:27:59.110 --> 01:28:02.470
and learned a great deal from that.
01:28:02.470 --> 01:28:06.220
There's a very extensive
body of research about safety
01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:11.220
culture and what constitutes
safety culture really evolve
01:28:11.940 --> 01:28:16.090
over time with experience
in different practices.
01:28:16.090 --> 01:28:21.090
I was really taken by a
comment that Kevin Payne,
01:28:21.110 --> 01:28:26.110
the CEO of Southern California
Edison made in August at our
01:28:27.660 --> 01:28:31.030
public safety meeting
on utility safety practices.
01:28:31.030 --> 01:28:35.160
Well he pointed out
how the organization's
01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:38.730
diversity equity and inclusion efforts
01:28:38.730 --> 01:28:42.053
have a very direct
impact on safety culture.
01:28:43.984 --> 01:28:47.240
He said an employee
sense of psychological safety
01:28:47.240 --> 01:28:48.640
impacts their performance
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:49.990
and their willingness to engage
01:28:49.990 --> 01:28:51.700
and have common candid conversations
01:28:51.700 --> 01:28:54.743
and that's really true and
that's something that we.
01:29:00.200 --> 01:29:05.200
One point the preliminary scope includes
01:29:05.340 --> 01:29:08.490
the question about whether
the proceedings should apply
01:29:08.490 --> 01:29:11.423
to gas utilities and
gas storage operators
01:29:11.423 --> 01:29:13.920
in addition to electrical corporations
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.160
and to me, the answer yes,
01:29:16.160 --> 01:29:19.160
that it should, we've already done this,
01:29:19.160 --> 01:29:22.750
as I mentioned for PG&E
and SoCalGas and Sempra,
01:29:22.750 --> 01:29:27.196
we've also done this for
two gas storage companies,
01:29:27.196 --> 01:29:29.230
Wild Goose and Modi gas storage.
01:29:29.230 --> 01:29:32.340
I think this OIR is the
best way to Institute
01:29:32.340 --> 01:29:35.410
a safety culture method,
01:29:35.410 --> 01:29:38.920
the safety culture assessments
and management systems for
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:41.980
all the energy utilities
under our jurisdiction.
01:29:41.980 --> 01:29:43.790
So I would answer that question.
01:29:43.790 --> 01:29:46.610
Yes, of course we'll get
public comments on that
01:29:46.610 --> 01:29:47.950
through the proceeding.
01:29:47.950 --> 01:29:51.123
With that I'll be strongly
supporting this item.
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.647
Thank you for that
further annunciation of,
01:29:56.647 --> 01:30:00.170
of the OIR proposal
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:30:00.170 --> 01:30:03.600
and appreciate that greatly
well yeah Commissioner Houck.
01:30:04.780 --> 01:30:06.223
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:30:08.570 --> 01:30:12.460
I'd also like to thank the
safety policy division team
01:30:12.460 --> 01:30:16.170
for all of their work on this
and for your office president
01:30:16.170 --> 01:30:21.000
on this important day rulemaking
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:23.570
that seeks to measure
safety based on observable
01:30:23.570 --> 01:30:25.740
factors and outcomes.
01:30:25.740 --> 01:30:30.290
This OIR is required under
SB 901 and represents an
01:30:30.290 --> 01:30:34.410
additional proceeding
examining IOU safety measures.
01:30:34.410 --> 01:30:35.820
I am concerned,
01:30:35.820 --> 01:30:38.560
and I think we have some
discussion about this at the voting
01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:43.120
meeting when the SCE general
rate case was up regarding
01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:49.023
the number of highly technical
safety related proceedings,
01:30:49.023 --> 01:30:52.630
that the Commission is engaging
in that can potentially lead
01:30:52.630 --> 01:30:57.030
to bifurcation of issues or an
academic examination of IOU
01:30:57.030 --> 01:31:00.190
safety matters as opposed
to coordinated actual on the
01:31:00.190 --> 01:31:04.860
ground oversight and improved
safety practices by IOUs.
01:31:04.860 --> 01:31:08.320
I believe this OIR however
presents an opportunity for the
01:31:08.320 --> 01:31:11.180
Commission to consider how
to streamline the various safety
01:31:11.180 --> 01:31:13.970
assessments that we kind of end,
01:31:13.970 --> 01:31:17.610
that we can efficiently track
IOUs investments of rate payer
01:31:17.610 --> 01:31:20.270
funds and ensure that
their expenditures result in
01:31:20.270 --> 01:31:21.740
measurable on the ground,
01:31:21.740 --> 01:31:24.090
actual improvements in safety
01:31:24.090 --> 01:31:26.070
and looking to streamline these efforts,
01:31:26.070 --> 01:31:28.490
we should also consider
the timing of the various
01:31:28.490 --> 01:31:31.490
assessments to ensure that
information can be effectively
01:31:31.490 --> 01:31:33.960
utilized across proceedings.
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.500
I support efforts such as this
OIR to provide opportunities
01:31:37.500 --> 01:31:39.760
that will allow for a close
look at the number of
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.830
proceedings and the manner
in which we're assessing safety
01:31:42.830 --> 01:31:45.570
and we need to ensure
that we reach meaningful
01:31:45.570 --> 01:31:47.040
and implementable results,
01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:50.367
that benefit rate payers and
increased safety measures.
01:31:50.367 --> 01:31:53.890
So we must ensure that the
regulated entities are being held
01:31:53.890 --> 01:31:56.430
accountable for safety to
rate payers, communities,
01:31:56.430 --> 01:31:59.560
and the Commission while
maintaining reliable service.
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.620
I strongly believe this OIR
has been crafted in a manner
01:32:02.620 --> 01:32:04.130
that will further these efforts
01:32:04.130 --> 01:32:06.420
and I also want to echo and agree
01:32:06.420 --> 01:32:08.560
with Commissioner
Rechtschaffen in comments
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.610
regarding incorporation of looking at
01:32:11.610 --> 01:32:14.310
gas, safety issues as part of this OIR
01:32:14.310 --> 01:32:17.980
and again wanna thank
everyone that put in all of the effort
01:32:17.980 --> 01:32:19.033
for this proceeding.
01:32:20.870 --> 01:32:22.690
Commissioner Houck I
wanna know if your dog
01:32:22.690 --> 01:32:25.163
is supportive or not of this item.
01:32:26.141 --> 01:32:29.103
I think it is and I
really apologize for it.
01:32:33.155 --> 01:32:36.810
We know it was wonderful
no, I'm just teasing.
01:32:36.810 --> 01:32:38.270
Okay any other comments?
01:32:38.270 --> 01:32:39.893
Oh, yes Commissioner Shiroma.
01:32:41.260 --> 01:32:43.568
Oh thank you President Batjer.
01:32:43.568 --> 01:32:46.227
I'm pleased to vote for
the opening of this new OIR
01:32:46.227 --> 01:32:50.901
we have seen too many
root cause analysis come back
01:32:50.901 --> 01:32:55.290
with preventable
lessons learned hindsight
01:32:55.290 --> 01:32:58.170
certainly is 2020 in those cases,
01:32:58.170 --> 01:33:01.560
but what's important is that
we also take actions now
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:04.473
to be equipped with
the foresight to prevent,
01:33:05.535 --> 01:33:06.970
it could be incidences.
01:33:06.970 --> 01:33:11.160
I believe this OIR will be
a great opportunity for our
01:33:11.160 --> 01:33:15.500
utilities to indeed
institutionalized your hardware,
01:33:15.500 --> 01:33:19.107
shaky culture throughout
their organizations,
01:33:19.107 --> 01:33:23.500
including the board of directors,
01:33:23.500 --> 01:33:28.040
all geared towards
rethinking and looking at
01:33:30.780 --> 01:33:35.332
best practices, looking at
new ideas for safety processes
01:33:35.332 --> 01:33:40.332
and this is really the opportunity
to look at what has been
01:33:41.130 --> 01:33:46.130
done as we have responded
to COVID-19 and how can those
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:51.870
activities, tools, and culture,
01:33:51.870 --> 01:33:56.870
and leading the entire team
of people at the utility littler
01:33:58.500 --> 01:34:02.300
here, the CPUC have
responded and responded as well.
01:34:02.300 --> 01:34:05.650
So thank you to the staff and
the judges who have worked on
01:34:05.650 --> 01:34:09.253
this and brought this forward
for our vote today, thank you.
01:34:11.140 --> 01:34:14.220
Thank you any further comments?
01:34:14.220 --> 01:34:15.990
Okay seen none will the agenda clerk,
01:34:15.990 --> 01:34:18.623
please call the roll on item 23.
01:34:20.040 --> 01:34:21.090
Commissioner Houck.
01:34:22.570 --> 01:34:23.403
Yes.
01:34:24.772 --> 01:34:26.991
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:34:26.991 --> 01:34:27.824
Aye.
01:34:28.835 --> 01:34:30.380
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:34:30.380 --> 01:34:31.213
Yes.
01:34:32.290 --> 01:34:33.740
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:34:34.691 --> 01:34:36.155
Aye.
01:34:36.155 --> 01:34:37.897
President Batjer.
01:34:37.897 --> 01:34:38.730
Aye.
01:34:38.730 --> 01:34:42.360
Item 23 passes
unanimously, thank you all.
01:34:42.360 --> 01:34:47.340
Item 24 is assigned to
Commissioner Houck, Commissioner.
01:34:51.373 --> 01:34:54.680
Okay I think my dog has
quieted down a little bit.
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:59.680
So this is an order extending
statutory deadline for
01:34:59.870 --> 01:35:04.070
complaint case C 19-04-05,
01:35:04.070 --> 01:35:07.070
Fred Sahadi versus
San Jose water company
01:35:07.070 --> 01:35:10.890
on August 5th, 2021 a
presiding officer's decision
01:35:10.890 --> 01:35:12.750
was issued by the ALJ.
01:35:12.750 --> 01:35:14.540
On September 7th, 2021,
01:35:14.540 --> 01:35:17.940
the complaints and appealed
the presiding officer's decision
01:35:17.940 --> 01:35:19.920
and extension of the
statutory deadline to
01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:23.470
February 8th, 2022 is
necessary to complete review
01:35:23.470 --> 01:35:25.190
of the appeal and with that,
01:35:25.190 --> 01:35:28.580
I asked for your support
on the requested extension
01:35:28.580 --> 01:35:29.463
for this item.
01:35:30.570 --> 01:35:33.700
Thank you are there any
comments or questions?
01:35:33.700 --> 01:35:36.713
Okay seen none will the
agenda clerk please call the roll.
01:35:37.910 --> 01:35:39.123
Commissioner Houck.
01:35:40.630 --> 01:35:42.130
Yes.
01:35:42.130 --> 01:35:43.350
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:35:44.390 --> 01:35:45.960
Aye.
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.080
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:49.640
Yes.
01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:51.681
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:35:51.681 --> 01:35:53.220
Aye.
01:35:53.220 --> 01:35:54.170
President Batjer.
01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:55.890
Aye.
01:35:55.890 --> 01:36:00.040
Thank you he vote is
unanimous for item number 24,
01:36:00.040 --> 01:36:02.230
moving now to item number 25
01:36:02.230 --> 01:36:04.527
as assigned to Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
01:36:06.630 --> 01:36:08.080
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:10.950
This is another order
extending the statutory deadline
01:36:10.950 --> 01:36:12.370
for a proceeding,
01:36:12.370 --> 01:36:16.710
dealing with the compliance
and verification of our rules
01:36:16.710 --> 01:36:20.090
regarding prohibited fossil backup
01:36:20.090 --> 01:36:22.713
in the demand response programs.
01:36:24.130 --> 01:36:26.910
I very much wish that I
didn't need this extension,
01:36:26.910 --> 01:36:31.623
but obviously the circumstances
have much evolved since the
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:36.320
beginning of this program
and the rules that tied to this
01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:38.060
many of these programs.
01:36:38.060 --> 01:36:40.370
But in addition, some of this,
01:36:40.370 --> 01:36:43.210
some of the key staff on
this have obviously been very
01:36:43.210 --> 01:36:46.970
focused on all of the recent
priorities, especially the,
01:36:46.970 --> 01:36:49.015
some of the liability proceedings
01:36:49.015 --> 01:36:52.150
and so therefore we
needed additional time
01:36:52.150 --> 01:36:54.340
to issue this as a proposed decision.
01:36:54.340 --> 01:36:58.260
So I'm requesting an extension
until October of next year.
01:36:58.260 --> 01:36:59.093
Thank you.
01:37:00.430 --> 01:37:02.350
Thank you very much.
01:37:02.350 --> 01:37:06.783
Are there any comments or
questions on item number 25?
01:37:09.482 --> 01:37:12.780
Okay seen none will the
agenda clerk, please call the roll.
01:37:12.780 --> 01:37:13.830
Commissioner Houck.
01:37:15.050 --> 01:37:15.883
Yes.
01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:18.070
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:37:18.990 --> 01:37:19.823
Aye.
01:37:21.330 --> 01:37:23.360
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:24.980
Yes.
01:37:24.980 --> 01:37:27.269
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:37:27.269 --> 01:37:28.102
Aye.
01:37:29.266 --> 01:37:30.986
President Batjer.
01:37:30.986 --> 01:37:32.270
Aye.
01:37:32.270 --> 01:37:35.550
Item 25 passes unanimously.
01:37:35.550 --> 01:37:39.700
Item 26 will be withdrawn
because it is assigned
01:37:39.700 --> 01:37:41.250
to Commissioner Shiroma.
01:37:41.250 --> 01:37:45.710
It is because it is related to item 11,
01:37:45.710 --> 01:37:49.163
which we passed on the
Consent Agenda today.
01:37:50.070 --> 01:37:55.070
So we will now move on in the
agenda to management reports.
01:37:55.360 --> 01:38:00.360
We had one earlier today and
there is no report for item 29
01:38:01.730 --> 01:38:03.440
management report and discussion
01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:05.223
on administrative activities.
01:38:06.332 --> 01:38:08.580
So we will turn now to the
Commissioner's reports on the
01:38:08.580 --> 01:38:11.503
agenda and who would like to go first?
01:38:14.370 --> 01:38:18.110
Okay Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:38:18.110 --> 01:38:21.110
Did you say
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:38:21.110 --> 01:38:24.540
Okay I wanted to just
share a couple of updates
01:38:24.540 --> 01:38:26.090
that I've mentioned before,
01:38:26.090 --> 01:38:30.747
but really want to really
encourage all of you as well as
01:38:30.747 --> 01:38:35.620
the public to join a workshop
on Aliso Canyon and the
01:38:35.620 --> 01:38:39.070
alternatives that will be
presented by our consultants,
01:38:39.070 --> 01:38:43.070
FTI consulting has been
analyzing what will be needed,
01:38:43.070 --> 01:38:46.690
what kind of investments will
be needed to replace natural
01:38:46.690 --> 01:38:50.200
gas function that Aliso
Canyon currently serves.
01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:54.610
They have four portfolios of
resource options and actions
01:38:54.610 --> 01:38:59.020
that they'll be presenting as
well as a proposed portfolio,
01:38:59.020 --> 01:39:03.150
which will be incorporating
some of the most cost effective
01:39:03.150 --> 01:39:07.010
elements from the four portfolios
01:39:07.010 --> 01:39:08.969
that they'll be looking at.
01:39:08.969 --> 01:39:12.720
And so this is on November
3rd, Wednesday, November 3rd,
01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:14.346
where they will be presenting this.
01:39:14.346 --> 01:39:19.346
We will obviously be looking
forward to very much what the
01:39:19.510 --> 01:39:22.430
public has for feedback and the parties,
01:39:22.430 --> 01:39:26.700
and will be subsequently
putting the report in the final
01:39:26.700 --> 01:39:29.880
report into the record and
taking comment on that
01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:34.880
as we geared towards developing
the set of actions that are
01:39:34.940 --> 01:39:38.550
necessary to phase out
our dependency on Aliso
01:39:39.700 --> 01:39:42.040
and so I want to invite everyone,
01:39:42.040 --> 01:39:44.390
particularly the public
and all of the parties
01:39:44.390 --> 01:39:47.630
and all of you Commissioners
to join that workshop.
01:39:47.630 --> 01:39:48.683
Thank you very much.
01:39:50.809 --> 01:39:54.820
Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:39:54.820 --> 01:39:55.653
Thank you President Batjer.
01:39:55.653 --> 01:39:58.420
I have several items first.
01:39:58.420 --> 01:40:01.550
Which I want to put on everyone's radar
01:40:01.550 --> 01:40:04.090
that we will be having in micro-grids
01:40:04.090 --> 01:40:06.074
and resiliency workshop.
01:40:06.074 --> 01:40:11.074
Last January, we voted out a
micro-grid incentive program,
01:40:13.103 --> 01:40:13.936
like your fund,
01:40:13.936 --> 01:40:18.470
clean energy market grants to
support vulnerable populations
01:40:18.470 --> 01:40:23.470
impacted by grid outages,
PSPSS and so forth.
01:40:24.040 --> 01:40:27.170
Over the summer PG&E
Southern California Edison
01:40:27.170 --> 01:40:29.700
and San Diego gas and electric held
01:40:29.700 --> 01:40:33.420
community workshops to
gather input on the design and
01:40:33.420 --> 01:40:36.463
implementation of the
micro-grid incentive program.
01:40:37.620 --> 01:40:41.070
The 50 division staff is
now finalizing the details
01:40:41.070 --> 01:40:44.710
for this upcoming workshop.
01:40:44.710 --> 01:40:45.690
During the workshop,
01:40:45.690 --> 01:40:50.130
the investor on utilities will
present on areas of agreement
01:40:50.130 --> 01:40:54.210
from the summer workshops and
share how they have community
01:40:54.210 --> 01:40:59.210
input into their micro-grid
and center program drafts.
01:41:00.050 --> 01:41:02.720
This is all through the effort
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:04.920
of making this program responsive
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:08.150
to the needs of these
vulnerable communities,
01:41:08.150 --> 01:41:10.803
which include low income communities.
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:14.030
The date will be announced shortly.
01:41:14.030 --> 01:41:18.176
So I encourage interested
parties to keep an eye on the
01:41:18.176 --> 01:41:23.176
R19-09-009 service list the
data calendar for more details
01:41:26.221 --> 01:41:29.310
and then on October 22nd,
01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:33.800
we will be hosting a workshop
on the iFoster pilot program.
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:37.770
With many thanks to
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
01:41:37.770 --> 01:41:42.770
the IFoster pilot was adopted
in a 2019 decision in order
01:41:43.060 --> 01:41:47.010
to bring foster youth in
need to the lifeline program to
01:41:47.010 --> 01:41:50.710
access free and discounted
communication of service,
01:41:50.710 --> 01:41:55.540
both telephone and WiFi hotspot service.
01:41:55.540 --> 01:41:59.040
We have gained a learning
about the challenges
01:41:59.040 --> 01:42:00.690
of putting at the program
01:42:00.690 --> 01:42:03.190
and I've also identified
the program as being
01:42:03.190 --> 01:42:05.500
very successful in a staff report,
01:42:05.500 --> 01:42:08.798
adopted by the Commission
and a decision comes July
01:42:08.798 --> 01:42:11.200
of his past year.
01:42:11.200 --> 01:42:14.020
The workshop will include
discussions on how the iFoster
01:42:14.020 --> 01:42:17.590
pilot can become a permanent
part of the lifeline program
01:42:17.590 --> 01:42:22.010
and how to ensure
continuity of service in foster
01:42:22.010 --> 01:42:24.960
youth age, out of the foster system
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:28.640
and again, that will be on
October 22nd, it'll be virtual.
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.010
Start 10:00 AM all are welcome
01:42:32.010 --> 01:42:36.406
and details are on the
Commissioners daily calendar.
01:42:36.406 --> 01:42:38.830
And then I'm pleased to
announce a new advisor
01:42:38.830 --> 01:42:40.950
joining my team Andrew Dudican.
01:42:41.860 --> 01:42:45.950
Andrew will cover energy
and transportation matters.
01:42:45.950 --> 01:42:48.150
Andrew comes from
our consumer protection
01:42:48.150 --> 01:42:49.830
and enforcement division,
01:42:49.830 --> 01:42:53.000
where he was a senior analyst
supporting the Commissioner's
01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.130
transportation network company,
01:42:55.130 --> 01:42:57.880
rulemaking and
inter-agency coordination,
01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.320
including as the lead analyst
01:43:00.320 --> 01:43:03.080
on the autonomous vehicle program.
01:43:03.080 --> 01:43:06.380
Prior to joining the CPUC in 2019,
01:43:06.380 --> 01:43:10.060
Andrew spent a decade
developing policy to support
01:43:10.060 --> 01:43:13.300
disadvantaged communities
at Southern California Edison.
01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:17.170
He also co-led a partnership
between utility and community
01:43:17.170 --> 01:43:21.070
based organizations to
construct clean energy projects
01:43:21.070 --> 01:43:23.250
in their local communities,
01:43:23.250 --> 01:43:26.360
and to hold a bachelor of
arts degree in mathematics
01:43:26.360 --> 01:43:28.270
from Pomona college,
01:43:28.270 --> 01:43:32.290
please join me in welcoming
Andrew to my team,
01:43:32.290 --> 01:43:36.370
and he looks forward to
continuing to work with all of your
01:43:36.370 --> 01:43:39.277
teams and the industry
divisions thank you.
01:43:41.745 --> 01:43:43.045
Thank you, Commissioner.
01:43:44.730 --> 01:43:47.513
Anyone else wishes to
yes Commissioner Houck.
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:50.753
Thank you.
01:43:52.810 --> 01:43:56.670
I also would ask that you join
me in welcoming some new
01:43:56.670 --> 01:43:58.283
staff in my office.
01:43:59.280 --> 01:44:03.290
First I'm pleased to
announce that Christie Chu,
01:44:03.290 --> 01:44:06.900
who was recently at the energy
Commission will be joining my
01:44:06.900 --> 01:44:09.300
office prior to joining the PUC
01:44:09.300 --> 01:44:11.230
Christie worked for 19 years
01:44:11.230 --> 01:44:13.510
at the California energy Commission,
01:44:13.510 --> 01:44:16.030
where she started as a
project manager in the sighting
01:44:16.030 --> 01:44:19.350
transmission and
environmental protection division.
01:44:19.350 --> 01:44:22.850
She went to work in the energy
resource division as a demand
01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:24.960
response research manager,
01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:27.900
and as the project manager
for the desert renewable energy
01:44:27.900 --> 01:44:30.890
conservation plan as an advisor,
01:44:30.890 --> 01:44:34.490
she also served as an advisor
to energy Commissioners,
01:44:34.490 --> 01:44:36.570
Jeff Byron and Karen Douglas
01:44:36.570 --> 01:44:38.650
as the liaison to the disadvantaged
01:44:38.650 --> 01:44:40.590
communities advisory group
01:44:40.590 --> 01:44:42.920
and most recently in
the efficiency division,
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.140
working on building
de-carbonization policies.
01:44:46.140 --> 01:44:47.900
So before working in the energy realm,
01:44:47.900 --> 01:44:51.238
Christie worked in the
public programs office of the
01:44:51.238 --> 01:44:53.840
California integrated
waste management board
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:57.220
and for the city of Sacramento
is a land use planner.
01:44:57.220 --> 01:45:00.210
Christie has a degree in
environmental policy analysis
01:45:00.210 --> 01:45:01.840
and planning from UC Davis,
01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:04.740
and she looks forward to
learning all about working
01:45:04.740 --> 01:45:08.410
at the states, post
other energy agencies.
01:45:08.410 --> 01:45:12.800
So please join me in
welcoming Christie to my office.
01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:17.580
I also will be having a new
temporary advisor in my office
01:45:17.580 --> 01:45:20.840
Erin Seibert will be
working in my office,
01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:23.800
starting on Monday
through the end of March
01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:25.820
to cover MC Brown's workload
01:45:25.820 --> 01:45:29.950
MC will be starting maternity
leave in the very near future
01:45:29.950 --> 01:45:34.700
and returning in roughly
late March, early April.
01:45:34.700 --> 01:45:37.660
Aaron joined the Commission in 2011
01:45:37.660 --> 01:45:40.440
and comes to us from the ALJ division.
01:45:40.440 --> 01:45:42.000
During his time at the Commission
01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:44.550
Aaron has served as an
Administrative Law Judge,
01:45:44.550 --> 01:45:48.140
former advisor to Commissioner
Peterson and an analyst and
01:45:48.140 --> 01:45:51.490
program and project
supervisor and energy division.
01:45:51.490 --> 01:45:54.000
Aaron holds a BA in
English and psychology
01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.520
from Butler university,
01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:58.270
a master's degree in public
administration from Columbia
01:45:58.270 --> 01:46:02.153
university and spent a year
studying abroad in Oxford.
01:46:03.090 --> 01:46:05.480
In his free time he enjoys
trying to keep up with
01:46:05.480 --> 01:46:07.450
his three energetic children,
01:46:07.450 --> 01:46:09.740
rowing and reading detective novels.
01:46:09.740 --> 01:46:13.640
So we're excited to have both of them
01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:18.640
and I also wanted to just
mention the hyper workshop that
01:46:21.040 --> 01:46:21.900
I attended this week
01:46:21.900 --> 01:46:24.500
on grid interactive efficient buildings.
01:46:24.500 --> 01:46:28.107
On October 5th, 2021 the CEC
01:46:29.830 --> 01:46:32.550
held an eye for grid
interactive efficiency
01:46:32.550 --> 01:46:34.591
workshop, which was a full day workshop
01:46:34.591 --> 01:46:36.010
and the morning was filled
01:46:36.010 --> 01:46:37.590
with a number of great presenters,
01:46:37.590 --> 01:46:41.150
including a keynote
presentation from David Namso
01:46:41.150 --> 01:46:43.000
from the U.S. department of energy
01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:46.870
and I thought his talk was
particularly interesting as he
01:46:46.870 --> 01:46:50.370
laid out the potential value
of having grid interconnected
01:46:50.370 --> 01:46:54.510
buildings and recommended
actions as to how we can get there
01:46:54.510 --> 01:46:58.120
and discuss her current
DOE pilot projects underway
01:46:58.120 --> 01:47:00.930
and there was a lot of discussion
concerning several actions
01:47:00.930 --> 01:47:03.450
that can be utilized and
supported through the work we are
01:47:03.450 --> 01:47:05.660
doing here at the CPUC
01:47:05.660 --> 01:47:10.350
and I'm looking forward to
having partnerships with the
01:47:10.350 --> 01:47:13.600
federal government and
working in the same direction.
01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:18.160
Panelists also spoke about
available and needed technologies
01:47:18.160 --> 01:47:22.720
evolving customer programs,
equity issues, and overall,
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:27.210
I thought it was a great
workshop that highlighted synergies
01:47:27.210 --> 01:47:29.840
between the two agencies
and a lot of the work that we're
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:33.690
doing here at the PUC in
regards to load flexibility,
01:47:33.690 --> 01:47:38.070
demand, response,
and reliability issues.
01:47:38.070 --> 01:47:41.700
So I'm looking forward to seeing
how we can work together to
01:47:41.700 --> 01:47:43.553
implement some of these measures.
01:47:45.460 --> 01:47:47.490
I also wanna thank
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:47:47.490 --> 01:47:49.230
and her staff for leading
01:47:49.230 --> 01:47:53.490
events this month in honor,
of a Hispanic history month,
01:47:53.490 --> 01:47:55.670
we had a number of great
presentations on community
01:47:55.670 --> 01:47:57.970
organization and voting impacts.
01:47:57.970 --> 01:48:02.170
I also want to acknowledge
that this coming Monday is
01:48:02.170 --> 01:48:03.940
indigenous people's day,
01:48:03.940 --> 01:48:05.647
and there's a number of activities
01:48:05.647 --> 01:48:07.270
going to around the state.
01:48:07.270 --> 01:48:10.110
I also noticed that the California
Indian museum that was
01:48:10.110 --> 01:48:14.130
recently closed for repairs
is now reopened and want to
01:48:14.130 --> 01:48:17.480
recognize and command Governor
Newsome's administration for
01:48:17.480 --> 01:48:19.693
its recognition of
indigenous people's day,
01:48:21.280 --> 01:48:23.560
as well as creating the
truth and healing council and
01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.720
supporting policies such as
the Commission or the land
01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:29.730
transfer policy and other
efforts to develop meaningful
01:48:29.730 --> 01:48:32.290
consultation measures
that ensure opportunities
01:48:32.290 --> 01:48:34.900
for tribal voices to be at the table
01:48:34.900 --> 01:48:38.920
and just a little history
regarding indigenous peoples day.
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:41.630
The first documented
observance of Columbus day in the
01:48:41.630 --> 01:48:45.430
United States was in
New York city in 1792.
01:48:45.430 --> 01:48:50.260
Any native people oppose the
celebration of Columbus as it
01:48:50.260 --> 01:48:53.600
honored colonialism in
the Western hemisphere,
01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:57.850
and that represented mass
death and forced assimilation
01:48:57.850 --> 01:48:59.720
of many indigenous peoples.
01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:04.400
It wasn't until 1977 that the
United nations international
01:49:04.400 --> 01:49:07.500
conference on discrimination
against indigenous populations
01:49:07.500 --> 01:49:10.260
in the Americas proposed
that Columbus day.
01:49:10.260 --> 01:49:13.160
We replaced with indigenous
peoples day and an effort to
01:49:13.160 --> 01:49:16.110
recognize native peoples and
encourage the Americans to
01:49:16.110 --> 01:49:18.250
rethink their history.
01:49:18.250 --> 01:49:20.030
Cities and states across the U.S.
01:49:20.030 --> 01:49:22.870
have replaced Columbus day
with indigenous peoples day
01:49:22.870 --> 01:49:26.940
and the first date to do so
with South Dakota in 1990,
01:49:26.940 --> 01:49:29.750
Berkeley was the first city to
make the change from Columbus
01:49:29.750 --> 01:49:34.070
day to indigenous people's
day in 1992 and by 2015,
01:49:35.290 --> 01:49:37.950
there was a gathering of
over 6,000 native people and
01:49:37.950 --> 01:49:41.160
supporters at Randall's island
in New York to recognize the
01:49:41.160 --> 01:49:45.393
history and continued
perseverance of native peoples,
01:49:47.700 --> 01:49:50.490
which received worldwide
attention and further the movement
01:49:50.490 --> 01:49:53.240
to formally recognize
indigenous peoples day.
01:49:53.240 --> 01:49:57.360
In 2019 and 2020 California's
Governor Gavin Newsome issued
01:49:57.360 --> 01:50:00.223
proclamations declaring
indigenous peoples day,
01:50:01.410 --> 01:50:04.400
joining 18 other states
in such recognition
01:50:04.400 --> 01:50:05.960
and I just want to end with a quote
01:50:05.960 --> 01:50:08.372
from Governor Newsome's proclamation,
01:50:08.372 --> 01:50:12.080
as we're moving, as Monday
will be indigenous people day
01:50:12.080 --> 01:50:16.020
that in the spirit of
reconciliation and re-examination,
01:50:16.020 --> 01:50:19.240
he said that he encouraged
all Californians today to take
01:50:19.240 --> 01:50:22.810
time to celebrate indigenous
peoples rather than the forces
01:50:22.810 --> 01:50:25.830
that tried and failed to
eradicate them and let us reflect
01:50:25.830 --> 01:50:28.390
on how their resistance
and persistence has shaped
01:50:28.390 --> 01:50:30.480
California for the better
01:50:30.480 --> 01:50:35.480
and so thank you for allowing
me to provide that information
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:36.653
in my report today.
01:50:39.540 --> 01:50:41.870
Thank you for
that terrific reminder,
01:50:41.870 --> 01:50:45.183
of Monday being indigenous peoples day,
01:50:46.530 --> 01:50:47.830
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:50:49.940 --> 01:50:52.150
Thank you and thank
you, Commissioner Houck.
01:50:52.150 --> 01:50:55.850
That was an extremely
instructive and powerful summary.
01:50:55.850 --> 01:50:59.053
So really appreciate
your providing that.
01:51:00.490 --> 01:51:04.450
Since everyone else's is
hawking and advertising
01:51:04.450 --> 01:51:07.780
their panels, I wanna tell
people about a two for one deal
01:51:07.780 --> 01:51:10.500
that you can take
advantage of next week.
01:51:10.500 --> 01:51:13.830
If you really interested in
transportation electrification,
01:51:13.830 --> 01:51:18.455
we have two great panels coming
up on Tuesday of next week.
01:51:18.455 --> 01:51:23.455
The PUC and CEC and
Gobiz are sponsoring the joint
01:51:24.770 --> 01:51:28.640
program from 9:30 to four about
01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:31.170
accelerating Ed infrastructure
01:51:31.170 --> 01:51:35.340
and deployment three
panels on permitting rates
01:51:35.340 --> 01:51:38.470
and interconnection and Ed integration.
01:51:38.470 --> 01:51:43.470
The next day, Wednesday
the 13th from one to four,
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:45.960
we're gonna be having
an on bonk with all of the
01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:50.700
Commissioners on electrification
01:51:50.700 --> 01:51:54.210
and it's a unique opportunity
for us to discuss among
01:51:54.210 --> 01:51:57.310
ourselves in a public
setting some of our priorities,
01:51:57.310 --> 01:51:59.450
we're gonna start
out with a presentation
01:51:59.450 --> 01:52:02.510
from the energy division level setting,
01:52:02.510 --> 01:52:05.820
where we are our progress in our gaps.
01:52:05.820 --> 01:52:10.410
We'll hear from our sister
agency at the energy Commission
01:52:10.410 --> 01:52:14.370
about the work that they're
doing and the areas of focus for
01:52:14.370 --> 01:52:16.472
their infrastructure investment
01:52:16.472 --> 01:52:20.220
and then we're gonna have a
one hour Commissioner round
01:52:20.220 --> 01:52:24.920
table discussion about what
we collectively think our vision
01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:29.130
should be for optimizing
the use of rate payer funds,
01:52:29.130 --> 01:52:32.110
what the utility role should
be in the transportation
01:52:32.110 --> 01:52:34.130
electrification market,
01:52:34.130 --> 01:52:37.453
and specifically accelerating
the adoption of Eds.
01:52:38.390 --> 01:52:42.720
So that's next Wednesday
from one to four,
01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.280
I look forward to all my
fellow Commissioners
01:52:45.280 --> 01:52:47.250
participating in of course the public
01:52:47.250 --> 01:52:49.497
and stakeholders are
welcome to join as well
01:52:49.497 --> 01:52:52.013
and we hope that you do thank you.
01:52:53.280 --> 01:52:55.300
Thank you Commissioner.
01:52:55.300 --> 01:52:57.950
I would like to share a
reminder that next Thursday,
01:52:57.950 --> 01:53:02.950
October 14th is our 19th
annual supplier diversity on bunk
01:53:03.200 --> 01:53:05.003
on general order 156.
01:53:05.980 --> 01:53:08.670
This year is on bunk's, entitled,
01:53:08.670 --> 01:53:11.393
thriving and surviving
during a pandemic.
01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:16.760
We hope the discussion
will shed some new light on
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:20.700
procurement challenges due to
the pandemic and provide some
01:53:20.700 --> 01:53:24.900
solutions on how to increase
participation with diverse
01:53:25.952 --> 01:53:29.010
suppliers in the utility supply chain.
01:53:29.010 --> 01:53:33.040
The on bunk can be
viewed for the public on
01:53:33.040 --> 01:53:38.040
live on www.adminmonitor.com/CA/CPUC
01:53:40.480 --> 01:53:44.390
this is your viewing today's meeting,
01:53:44.390 --> 01:53:48.263
and the agenda is available
on the CPUC website.
01:53:49.260 --> 01:53:51.653
We hope that many of you will join us.
01:53:52.870 --> 01:53:54.223
So with that,
01:53:55.280 --> 01:53:58.710
that finishes the Commissioners
reports and the public
01:53:58.710 --> 01:54:01.340
meeting for today is now adjourned.
01:54:01.340 --> 01:54:04.870
Thank you we will be
taking a 10 minute break,
01:54:04.870 --> 01:54:09.003
so let's just make it 10
minutes after 12 noon.
01:54:10.210 --> 01:54:11.043
Thank you.