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Welcome to the
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California Public Utilities Commission.
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This is the voting business meeting,
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President Batjer, you may begin.
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Thank you operator.
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Good morning, everyone.
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We need to establish a quorum
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so will the agenda clerk,
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please call the roll.
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Commissioner Houck?
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[Commissioner Houck] Here.
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Commissioner
Shiroma?
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Present.
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Commissioner
Rechtschaffen?
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I'm here.
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Commissioner
Guzman Aceves?
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[Commissioner Aceves] Here.
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President Batjer.
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Here.
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We have establish a quorum.
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Thank you all.
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So welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I am calling this meeting
of August 5th, 2021.
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Public agenda item number 3490 to order.
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Due to the Coronavirus pandemic,
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and the shelter-in-place order
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we are conducting today's
business meeting online
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and by remote participation.
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This meeting is live-streamed
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If appropriate, you will
be called upon to speak.
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comment period in today's agenda.
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Voting, meeting, help is all one word.
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I want to provide an update
on recent developments
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in the State's ongoing efforts
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to ensure Californians
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continue to receive reliable energy
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in the face of extreme heat events
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and other reliability challenges.
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Last Friday, Governor Newsom
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released a plan to achieve 100% clean
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electric system that is
inclusive, clean, safe,
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reliable, resilient, and affordable.
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As we all work across the State
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toward achieving that goal,
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Governor Newsom also signed
an emergency proclamation
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to expedite clean energy projects
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and increase the availability
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of additional energy
resources for this summer.
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And next as climate change
continues to threaten The West.
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The proclamation
specifically asks the CPUC,
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(President Batjer clears throat)
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excuse me, to act immediately
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to help ensure energy reliability
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is maintained during this period
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and specifically asks us to
work with the State's load,
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serving entities on accelerating
plans for construction,
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determine and rapid
deployment of new clean energy
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and storage projects
to mitigate the risk
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of a pass the shortages
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and increase the availability
of carbon-free energy
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at all times of the day.
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The proclamation also requests
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that we exercise our power to
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expedite Commission action
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in service of these objectives.
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Over the last year
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and particularly this
last several months,
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the CPUC and the other
California Energy Agencies
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have moved quickly to
better position the State
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to maintain grid reliability
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during these ever more frequent
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and more extreme weather events.
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We have adjusted our planning inputs
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to better reflect the changing climate.
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We have ordered procurement
of additional energy resources
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like storage and created innovative
demand response programs
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to help ensure we are
supporting customers
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during the critical hours of the day
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when the sun is setting,
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but energy use remains high,
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and we have made changes
to our energy market value,
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excuse me, rules.
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However, the impact of
a rapidly changing climate
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are challenging, even these best efforts
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and as identified in the proclamation,
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have the potential to
place additional strain
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on our electric grid this
summer and beyond.
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Which is why this Commission
has already initiated work
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in our proceedings to respond
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and help ensure we can
keep the power flowing
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in an environment that
will be drier and hotter.
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And we'll see extremely
heightened wildfire risk.
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This will be an effort that
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will span across various proceedings.
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And I thank you all in advance
my fellow Commissioners,
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the Administrative Law
Judges, the Commission Staff,
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who will contribute
to this critical effort.
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Further, on July 20th,
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Governor Newsom signed a historic
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$6 billion broadband package.
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This investment will
once and for all resolve
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the pernicious digital divide
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that has afflicted
Californians for many years.
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The package includes $3.25
billion for Statewide open access
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middle-mile network.
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This generational investment
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will ensure Californians and businesses
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have the broadband
infrastructure finally
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to meet their needs
well into the future.
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$2 billion in American
Rescue Plan Act funds
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for a grant program to
provide last mile connections
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to underserved households in the State
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in accordance with the
U.S. Treasury guidelines.
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$750 million for a new
loan loss reserve fund
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that will support local governments,
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that issue bonds to build
their own broadband networks.
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The package also includes funds
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for local government
Technical Assistance Grants,
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reforms to the Public Housing Account
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and the updates to the California
Advanced Services Fund.
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I'm very excited about these investments
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and we have much work to do here
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at the Commission to get these funds
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to those in need as soon as possible.
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We also expect a second
legislative package to ensure
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affordable broadband services
for low income Californians
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to be enacted in the coming months.
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I would like to extend my deep gratitude
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to the team that made this possible.
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Commissioner Martha Guzman Aceves
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has been a champion of broadband
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on behalf of The Commission
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and the people of California for years.
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Sarah Sharpe, Rob Osborn, Micah Minkes,
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Karen Eckersley, Grant
Mac, Marina MacLatchie,
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Laura Messica, Michael Malaney
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for many long nights and weekends
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spent developing this package.
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Thank you all.
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I would also like to extend
my gratitude to our colleagues
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in the Governor's office,
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the Department of Finance and
the Department of Technology
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for their leadership and
continued partnerships
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throughout this process.
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Finally, I want to take a moment
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to recognize the impacts
of the various fires
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burning across our State.
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The Dixie Fire ignited 22 days ago
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has been burning in
Butte and Plumas counties
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and has burned over 300,
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300,000 acres making
it the 10th largest wildfire
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in the State's history.
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Last night, the fire grew explosively
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driven by high winds and
extremely low humidity levels.
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And despite the best
efforts of our firefighters
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for the historic town of Greenville.
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The images of the burn are terrifying
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and we are only beginning
to understand the impact
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to those displaced and lost
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of those who have lost their homes
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and those that have lost businesses
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and I would also add
the loss of animals.
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In parallel the river
fire ignited yesterday,
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burning parts of Nevada
and Plumus Counties,
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burning 35 structures
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and threatening 1000's more
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and driving evacuations
in those counties.
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The devastating impact of
the Dixie wildfire to Greenville.
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The community cannot not be overstated.
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And we hold them
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and those in the impacted
area of the active wildfires,
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who have had to evacuate
in our thoughts today,
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as we hold this Commission meeting.
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And finally, as you have noticed,
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I'm wearing a mask today as
I am in the Sacramento office,
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and the Governor has
ordered mask wearing indoors
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in public places due to the COVID surge
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being caused by the Delta variant.
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We must continue to take
precautions to preserve our health
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and our, and the health
of our communities.
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Please be safe and
please get vaccinated.
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With that I thank you all very much
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for the indulgence of listening
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to a rather lengthy statement
of mine this morning.
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We will now turn to the public comment.
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If you wish to make a public comment
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and you have already dialed into the
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public comment telephone line,
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please press star one, to get
into the public comment queue.
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The CPUC rules do not
allow for parties in proceedings
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to speak about open proceedings.
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The public can make comments
addressing items on the consent
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and regular agenda as well as items,
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not on the agenda today.
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Please note that there
will not be public comment
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on items 23 and 36
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and all items on the
closed session agenda.
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You have two minutes to speak.
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You will hear a bell
sound when your time is up.
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You have two minutes to
speak and you will hear a bell
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when your time is up.
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So please be aware.
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Please be mindful of
other speakers in the queue
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and keep to this allotted time.
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With that guidance in mind.
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I welcome today's speakers.
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I will now turn to the operator
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to open the Public Comment Line.
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Operator?
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Thank you, the
Public Comment Telephone Line
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is now open.
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If you wish to speak during
the public comment period,
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please press star one, unmute your phone
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and clearly record your name
and organization when prompted.
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Our first caller is Jessica Tovar,
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you may go ahead.
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This is Jessica Tovar,
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East Bay Clean Power Alliance
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I am actually super
concerned and appalled
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in concern about the Dixie Fire
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and the fact that we are back here again
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after so many times and so many fires
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and so many communities
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that have been destroyed,
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people who have been
killed and traumatized
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as a result of these fires.
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The CPUC needs to
do something about this.
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This needs to stop.
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We can't allow PG&E to
continue business as usual
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as they slash and burn our communities
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throughout California.
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I also want to highlight
that the only solution
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to this problem
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is to have community
controlled, clean energy,
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not clean energy, that's
controlled by the utilities.
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That's the only way we're
going to be able to prevent fires
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is to get rid of that
transmission wire infrastructure
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and build out local clean energy.
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That is the only solution.
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And until we actually turn
this the system upside down,
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it's not going to change.
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Every year we're
experiencing more and more
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deadly wildfires
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and let's talk about who
really caused climate change.
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It's these utilities who,
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who have kept us
addicted to fossil fuel energy
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for way too long.
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Our communities have
solutions to this problem
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and you need to make sure that those,
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those solutions are actually happening
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and controlled in the communities
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that need it the most.
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We've been dumped on for way too long
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and now we're being ravaged
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by these deadly wildfires
that are caused by
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the same utilities that have been
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dumping on our communities
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and affecting our
health for way too long.
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And I also speak for the workers
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because they are the first in line
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that are also, whose lives
are at stake at the moment.
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So you need to do something now.
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The P stands for Public
in CPUC, not PG&E.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
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Our next
caller is Mark Lorenzen,
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you may go ahead.
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Good morning
members of The Commission.
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My name is Mark Lorenzen
and I am the Fire Chief
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for the Ventura County Fire Department.
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Our county has been
ravaged by wildfires,
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such at the Thomas and Woolsey fires
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in recent years with
devastating results.
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Both fires occurred
during extreme windy, wind,
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excuse me, wind conditions
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and were started when equipment owned
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by public utilities failed.
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I strongly support a modification,
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be made to SCE's General Rate Case
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to allow for proper funding
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of wildfire mitigation efforts.
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The hardening of our
public utilities infrastructure
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is critical in preventing
catastrophic wild land fires.
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Thank you for the
opportunity to comment.
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Thank you.
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Operator the next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Sylvia Xi,
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you may go ahead.
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I am Sylvia Xi
from Seaside, California,
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and I am a rate payer
to Cal-M for the water bill
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and I am urging the Commissioner
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to consider putting in the rule on sale.
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There's the Gain-On-Sale rule,
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which has been recommended
by the Public Advocate Office.
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This item is on concern
item number five,
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the sale of East
Pasadena Water to Cal-Am.
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By applying this rule,
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you are supporting the customers
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because it lessens the
burden of the rate payers.
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By the way, as a rate payer,
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I wouldn't get a drop of
the benefit from this sale
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or from this purchase.
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I still have to pay.
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So if you are supporting the customer,
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please, please accept the recommendation
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from the Public Advocate Office
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applied the Gain-On-Sale Rule
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which is your rule anyway.
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Thank you very much for listening.
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Bye-bye.
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Bye-bye, thank you.
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Operator next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Tony Budrovich,
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you may go ahead.
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Hi, my name
is Tony Budrovich.
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I'm the President and CEO
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of the Catalina Island Conservancy.
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My concern is the issue
with hardening utility lines
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and the risk that puts in various areas.
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So our organization is a,
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a group that focuses on conservation.
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We have some of the most
beautiful open space lands
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available to the public
lands in Southern California.
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We have about 42,000 acres.
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We have one source of producing power
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that sits in the City of Avalon
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and all power crosses
the island from there.
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Our island is highly prone
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and is devastated by wildfires
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because most of the county
resources are mainland oriented
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or ability to fight a fire
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when they happen are slow and limited.
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Trade winds tend to blow
fire into the city of Avalon,
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where there are just
under 4,000 residents.
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So, my encouragement is
obviously not to waste funding,
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but hardening of the utility lines,
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I would find a critically
important to various areas
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and wildfires,
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whether they're natural or manmade
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can absolutely devastate open space land
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and conservation of land areas.
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Our last big fire on the island was 2007
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and we are still
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in terrible shape from
that fire, you know,
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partially because of
droughts and other things,
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but wildfires,
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wildfires do all terrible things
to these open space lands.
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So I just would like the PUC to be
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worried about safety first
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and do what they can to
support the idea of hardening
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these power lines so that wildfires
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aren't the thing that devastate
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these beautiful open space communities,
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where the public's
allowed to relax and enjoy
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and educate and recreate.
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Thank you for your time.
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Thank you, operator,
next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Harry Semerjian,
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you may go ahead.
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Yes, good morning
Commissioner President Batjer
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and honorable Commissioners.
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My name is Harry Semerjian
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and I'm a Senior Public Policy Manager
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with the L.A. Area Chamber of Commerce.
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I'd like to start by
thanking the Commission
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for allowing this dialogue today.
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On behalf of the 500,000
businesses in Los Angeles county
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and our 1400 members,
00:20:29.980 --> 00:20:31.500
the L.A. Area Chamber of Commerce,
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strongly supports
modification of the CPUC's
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proposed decision on
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Southern California Edison's
2021 General Rate Case.
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Edison's request reflect
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the unprecedented short and
longterm risks our State faces,
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driven by climate change,
00:20:47.120 --> 00:20:49.610
which Edison must help mitigate.
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The PD Edison received
from CPUC on July 9th
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would approve increases
for some activities
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and decreases in others.
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Unfortunately, the PD's
most concerning reductions
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are related to wildfire risk mitigation.
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Specifically the PD would
reduce the amount of work
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necessary to replace
their distribution conductors
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with new covered conductors by 55%.
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This is inconsistent
with State Fire Marshal
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well with State Fire Mitigation Goals,
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to reduce the risk of wildfires
in high fire threat areas
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and to reduce the use of PSPS events,
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to mitigate ignition
events as soon as possible.
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The PD would also
reduce funding necessary
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for tree inspections and trimming
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that take place throughout the year
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to help mitigate wildfires.
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If the PD is not modified,
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the proposed decision will
have significant implications
00:21:41.928 --> 00:21:46.190
for ongoing efforts to reduce
our State's wildfire risks.
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Hence we respectfully urge
00:21:48.751 --> 00:21:51.610
CPUC to modify the PD to include
00:21:51.610 --> 00:21:54.090
Edison's requests that
would help enhance
00:21:54.090 --> 00:21:56.640
wildfire mitigation risks in California.
00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:57.473
Thank you.
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Thank you.
00:22:01.500 --> 00:22:03.423
Operator the next caller please?
00:22:04.368 --> 00:22:06.820
My next
caller is Craig Berry,
00:22:06.820 --> 00:22:07.670
you may go ahead.
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Yes, hello.
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Yes, my name is Craig Barry
00:22:14.510 --> 00:22:17.370
and I hope you can hear me, yeah.
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So I'm a
00:22:20.660 --> 00:22:22.482
resident of Del Rey
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and the number one
comment I'd like to make
00:22:26.320 --> 00:22:28.850
is I'd like you to
reject the application
00:22:28.850 --> 00:22:33.630
to increase storage limits
in Aliso Canyon right now.
00:22:33.630 --> 00:22:37.040
I live close to the Playa
Del Rey Gas Storage Facility,
00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:40.973
and I smell gas odors in
my neighborhood frequently.
00:22:41.970 --> 00:22:45.650
We need you to please protect
the health of the communities,
00:22:45.650 --> 00:22:47.440
living, working, playing,
00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:52.440
and going to school near
Aliso Canyon, gas storage,
00:22:52.470 --> 00:22:57.130
Playa Del Ray Gas Storage in
the Ventura Compressor Station.
00:22:57.130 --> 00:23:00.113
By shutting down these
dangerous facilities,
00:23:01.850 --> 00:23:04.080
we need to do it now.
00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:05.881
California is on fire.
00:23:05.881 --> 00:23:10.620
We need to start now
transitioning off of fossil fuels.
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Your decision today can save lives.
00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:16.280
Thank you.
00:23:16.280 --> 00:23:17.113
Thank you.
00:23:17.113 --> 00:23:19.023
Operator the next caller please.
00:23:23.770 --> 00:23:27.260
Our next question
is from Dr. Jim Stewart.
00:23:27.260 --> 00:23:28.110
You may go ahead.
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.170
Hi, I'm Jim Stewart,
PhD Energy Consultant
00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:38.760
and Commissioner Batjer,
you mentioned the Dixie Fire,
00:23:38.760 --> 00:23:41.740
well of course, it's the failure
00:23:42.900 --> 00:23:46.700
caused by The Commission
to regulate PG&E
00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:50.492
and allow them to continue
the use of bare wires
00:23:50.492 --> 00:23:54.020
and antiquated fuses
00:23:54.020 --> 00:23:58.975
and not install covered wires
and advanced arc interrupters
00:23:58.975 --> 00:24:02.120
like SDG&E has done.
00:24:02.120 --> 00:24:06.470
And your failure is
aiding the Newsom recall.
00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:07.820
Wake up.
00:24:07.820 --> 00:24:10.750
What happens if a Republican wins,
00:24:10.750 --> 00:24:13.580
how long will you
Commissioners be around?
00:24:13.580 --> 00:24:17.740
You need to protect
us and fix that horrible
00:24:17.740 --> 00:24:19.950
100 year old infrastructure.
00:24:19.950 --> 00:24:24.380
Secondly, Ed Randolph
and your Energy Division Staff
00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:27.360
need to stop listening
to Professor Bornstein
00:24:27.360 --> 00:24:30.290
and his siloed team,
00:24:30.290 --> 00:24:33.422
defending decades old modeling tools,
00:24:33.422 --> 00:24:35.468
to evaluate the integration
00:24:35.468 --> 00:24:40.040
of distributed energy
resources into the power grid.
00:24:40.040 --> 00:24:42.333
As a result, you've got absurd numbers
00:24:42.333 --> 00:24:44.237
in last spring,
00:24:44.237 --> 00:24:49.070
that cut the value of
local energy by 50%.
00:24:49.070 --> 00:24:51.560
But you have been shown up.
00:24:51.560 --> 00:24:53.342
Vibrant, clean energy,
00:24:53.342 --> 00:24:55.990
more powerful computers
00:24:55.990 --> 00:24:58.490
and advanced modeling tool
00:24:58.490 --> 00:25:00.690
gives the right information.
00:25:00.690 --> 00:25:03.000
It shows that rooftop solar
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.163
can save all Californians $120 billion.
00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:13.150
Maybe you need to clean
out your Energy Division Staff
00:25:13.260 --> 00:25:17.180
and get them to use updated technology.
00:25:17.180 --> 00:25:18.013
Thank you.
00:25:20.801 --> 00:25:21.634
Thank you.
00:25:21.634 --> 00:25:23.233
Operator next caller, please.
00:25:24.860 --> 00:25:27.044
Our next
caller is Dennis Morgan.
00:25:27.044 --> 00:25:28.253
You may go ahead.
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:31.920
Hello, my
name's Dennis Morgan.
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.810
I appreciate the opportunity to address
00:25:33.810 --> 00:25:35.770
the Commissioners this morning.
00:25:35.770 --> 00:25:36.940
I'm the President of the local
00:25:36.940 --> 00:25:39.840
508 Utility Workers Union of America,
00:25:39.840 --> 00:25:41.626
which represents utility workers
00:25:41.626 --> 00:25:45.670
at California American
Water's Los Angeles District.
00:25:45.670 --> 00:25:47.984
The UWA also represents workers
00:25:47.984 --> 00:25:51.410
at the companies Ventura
and Monterey Districts.
00:25:51.410 --> 00:25:53.887
On behalf of my fellow utility workers
00:25:53.887 --> 00:25:57.940
and the Utility Workers
Union of America, AFLCIO,
00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.770
I encourage the Commission to
approve the proposed decision,
00:26:00.770 --> 00:26:03.610
authorizing East Pasadena Water Company
00:26:03.610 --> 00:26:06.433
to sell its assets to
California American Water.
00:26:06.433 --> 00:26:10.200
The acquisition promises
to bring the benefits
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:13.780
of California American Water's
Union jobs to East Pasadena,
00:26:13.780 --> 00:26:15.739
non-union workers.
00:26:15.739 --> 00:26:19.220
The UWA is deeply concerned
that the Commission's failure
00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:21.130
to approve the reposed decision
00:26:21.130 --> 00:26:22.762
threatens those union jobs
00:26:22.762 --> 00:26:24.900
and will hurt workers, customers,
00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.110
and many people in this community.
00:26:27.110 --> 00:26:30.310
Union jobs provide collective
bargaining, fair wages,
00:26:30.310 --> 00:26:33.880
safer working conditions,
improved health care benefits,
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.940
job security in a stable schedule,
00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:38.970
which are especially critical
00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:40.877
in places like Los Angeles County,
00:26:40.877 --> 00:26:43.758
where the cost of living is 43% higher
00:26:43.758 --> 00:26:45.940
than the national average.
00:26:45.940 --> 00:26:49.810
This transaction will also
improve water supply reliability
00:26:49.810 --> 00:26:52.450
by allowing the
transfer for water rights
00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:53.960
between those two systems,
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.960
which also remedies water quality issue
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.198
that landed East Pasadena Water System
00:26:59.198 --> 00:27:01.223
on the human rights water list.
00:27:02.110 --> 00:27:03.740
East Pasadena customers
00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:06.180
will also gain important benefits like
00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:08.720
web self service credit card payments,
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:12.780
the customer assistance
program, multi-lingual services,
00:27:12.780 --> 00:27:15.010
robust conservation programs
00:27:15.010 --> 00:27:16.840
and the advantage of spreading expenses
00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:18.690
over a large customer base,
00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:20.450
reducing rate shock
00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:22.580
and the benefits of a larger company
00:27:22.580 --> 00:27:25.057
that has access to
more favorable financing.
00:27:25.057 --> 00:27:26.560
For these reasons
00:27:26.560 --> 00:27:29.480
the UWA request
that you vote in favor of
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.900
the proposed decision before you today.
00:27:31.900 --> 00:27:34.800
Thank you for your consideration
on this important matter.
00:27:41.120 --> 00:27:42.190
Thank you.
00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:43.813
Operator the next caller please?
00:27:45.270 --> 00:27:47.433
Our next
caller is Alex NaGee.
00:27:47.433 --> 00:27:48.523
You may go ahead.
00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:52.590
Yeah, good
morning Commissioners.
00:27:52.590 --> 00:27:54.602
My name is Alexandra
NaGee, and I'm with the
00:27:54.602 --> 00:27:56.770
Stop SoCalGas Coalition
00:27:56.770 --> 00:27:59.920
Communities across Los
Angeles and Ventura counties
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:02.280
are uniting to protect their communities
00:28:02.280 --> 00:28:04.718
from harmful SoCalGas operations.
00:28:04.718 --> 00:28:06.980
Right now we're actively fighting
00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:10.003
to shut down the Aliso
Canyon Gas Storage Facility,
00:28:10.003 --> 00:28:13.050
shut down the Playa Del
Rey Gas Storage Facility
00:28:13.050 --> 00:28:16.596
and stop the expansion of
the Ventura Compressor Station
00:28:16.596 --> 00:28:19.733
leading to its ultimate shutdown.
00:28:20.710 --> 00:28:23.004
We are coming together
00:28:23.004 --> 00:28:25.390
before The Public
Utilities Commission today
00:28:25.390 --> 00:28:28.480
to ask you to stand up to SoCalGas
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.940
to stop SoCalGas from continuing
00:28:31.940 --> 00:28:33.830
the expansion of fossil fuels
00:28:33.830 --> 00:28:37.380
during this insane
climate crisis we're living in.
00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:39.860
You know, we need you to be bold.
00:28:39.860 --> 00:28:42.110
We need community energy,
00:28:42.110 --> 00:28:46.170
we need energy decisions to
be in the hands of the people,
00:28:46.170 --> 00:28:47.087
the workers,
00:28:47.087 --> 00:28:50.600
the people who live
right next to these facilities
00:28:51.990 --> 00:28:56.920
and we wanted to show
solidarity for our Californians
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.900
also living in PG&E territory,
00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:01.460
continuing to suffer at their hands
00:29:01.460 --> 00:29:05.250
and the Dixie Fire, it's just
absolutely unacceptable.
00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:08.720
The Public Utilities Commission
has a lot of work to do
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.070
to hold both of these
utilities accountable
00:29:12.070 --> 00:29:13.160
and all utilities
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:17.660
that are harming us and
continuing to put profit
00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:19.660
above health, above our climate.
00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:22.960
And we ask that you do what's necessary
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.920
to stop increases at these facilities.
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.380
Just stop storage
increases at Aliso Canyon.
00:29:30.380 --> 00:29:33.320
I personally have been
very effected by this issue
00:29:33.320 --> 00:29:36.230
of the gas spill at Aliso Canyon.
00:29:36.230 --> 00:29:37.548
I got horribly sick.
00:29:37.548 --> 00:29:39.600
I saw my community get sick.
00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:43.970
I literally saw people I
know die during that disaster.
00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:47.490
And so these types of decisions
about allowing SoCalGas
00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:52.490
to expand, continues to
put people's lives at risk.
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.638
And that's what you need to confront.
00:29:55.638 --> 00:29:59.219
Are you willing to have that
type of blood on your hands
00:29:59.219 --> 00:30:01.980
by allowing SoCalGas to get its way.
00:30:01.980 --> 00:30:02.813
Thank you.
00:30:07.780 --> 00:30:10.040
Thank you very much.
00:30:10.040 --> 00:30:11.010
At this time,
00:30:11.010 --> 00:30:15.990
I'm going to divert from protocol a bit
00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:17.520
and I am going to ask
00:30:17.520 --> 00:30:20.750
our executive director, Rachel Peterson,
00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:25.220
to address some specific
concerns that have already been
00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:27.730
raised by some of the callers.
00:30:27.730 --> 00:30:30.810
And I suspect there will be more
00:30:30.810 --> 00:30:33.630
in the next queue who
also had the same concern.
00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:36.080
So I would like to have Rachel
00:30:37.183 --> 00:30:38.840
say a few words at this time,
00:30:38.840 --> 00:30:39.953
Rachel Peterson.
00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:42.610
Good morning
President Batjer
00:30:42.610 --> 00:30:45.700
and Commissioners
and members of the public
00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:47.243
who are calling in right now.
00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:49.870
Thank you for calling on me.
00:30:49.870 --> 00:30:54.090
I just wanted to offer
kind of a real-time update
00:30:54.090 --> 00:30:58.400
about actions that
staff is taking to address
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:03.120
one of the areas that
the caller just mentioned,
00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:04.540
and that is related to
00:31:04.540 --> 00:31:09.160
the Ventura Compressor
Station Modernization Project.
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.790
We have a letter going to the
CEO of SoCalGas this morning,
00:31:13.790 --> 00:31:16.360
it will be served on
numerous service lists,
00:31:16.360 --> 00:31:18.640
so members of the public will see it.
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.640
We are requiring SoCalGas
to hold a community forum
00:31:23.657 --> 00:31:28.520
in which they thoroughly
and forthrightly respond
00:31:28.520 --> 00:31:29.978
to community concerns
00:31:29.978 --> 00:31:33.680
and thoroughly discuss their analysis
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.520
of the compressor station project,
00:31:36.520 --> 00:31:39.357
including any and all
alternatives that the company
00:31:39.357 --> 00:31:42.950
has considered and is considering.
00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:44.810
The letter is going today.
00:31:44.810 --> 00:31:49.747
It also includes the data
requests that our staff sent
00:31:49.747 --> 00:31:54.100
to the company, for which
the response is due tomorrow,
00:31:54.100 --> 00:31:58.380
that largely also requests
similar technical responses
00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:02.830
about alternatives that the
company has considered.
00:32:02.830 --> 00:32:04.060
That data request
00:32:04.060 --> 00:32:08.700
and the response will also
be posted on our industries
00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:11.210
and topics web page within our website
00:32:11.210 --> 00:32:13.990
and so all of the responses and requests
00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:15.743
will be available to the public.
00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:19.867
That was my update from
this morning, President Batjer,
00:32:19.867 --> 00:32:21.973
I'm happy to answer any questions.
00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:26.040
Rachel, thank you very much.
00:32:26.040 --> 00:32:29.130
I think we'll move on
now to the next caller.
00:32:29.130 --> 00:32:31.280
Thank you very much
for that update Rachel.
00:32:32.320 --> 00:32:34.920
Operator, could you bring
on the next caller please?
00:32:36.122 --> 00:32:38.510
Our next
caller is David Shawver,
00:32:38.510 --> 00:32:40.033
Mayor, City of Stanton.
00:32:42.610 --> 00:32:43.460
You may go ahead.
00:32:45.592 --> 00:32:48.860
I'm stopping right now.
00:32:48.860 --> 00:32:50.460
I was on my way to a board meeting.
00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:53.002
So give me one second and I'll be okay.
00:32:53.002 --> 00:32:54.573
Thank you.
00:32:56.780 --> 00:32:59.580
Good morning, Madam president
and fellow Commissioners.
00:32:59.580 --> 00:33:01.080
My name is David Shawver
00:33:01.080 --> 00:33:03.110
and I'm the Mayor of the City of Stanton
00:33:03.110 --> 00:33:06.513
and current chairman of the
Orange County Fire Authority.
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.080
First, I'd like to thank you
00:33:09.080 --> 00:33:13.080
for giving me the opportunity
to speak this morning.
00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:15.800
I'm going to be talking and addressing
00:33:15.800 --> 00:33:18.350
the request of Southern
California Edison
00:33:18.350 --> 00:33:19.858
and the importance of supporting
00:33:19.858 --> 00:33:23.474
California Edison's aggressive action
00:33:23.474 --> 00:33:25.544
to implement wildfire measures
00:33:25.544 --> 00:33:27.920
that will protect the
residents of Stanton
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.442
and the residents of Orange County.
00:33:30.442 --> 00:33:33.030
All of this topic has
not been brought up
00:33:33.030 --> 00:33:36.240
to either the Stanton
City Council or my board.
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.383
I want to give you my
thoughts on both issues.
00:33:40.510 --> 00:33:42.520
To begin I would like to publicly thank
00:33:42.520 --> 00:33:43.990
Southern California Edison
00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:45.500
for the support they have given
00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:47.520
the Orange County Fire Authority
00:33:47.520 --> 00:33:50.440
and our other neighbors
mint firefighting agencies
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.360
in fighting wildfires
00:33:52.360 --> 00:33:56.150
by providing two of the
largest firefighting helicopters
00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:58.790
available today for our use
00:33:58.790 --> 00:34:01.340
and for developing
their plan to replace their
00:34:02.422 --> 00:34:06.420
distribution conductors
with new covered conductors
00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:09.504
to reduce Statewide wildfire risk.
00:34:09.504 --> 00:34:12.410
Both of these programs will save lives
00:34:12.410 --> 00:34:14.411
and reduce costs caused by fires
00:34:14.411 --> 00:34:17.990
in indexed high-risk areas.
00:34:17.990 --> 00:34:19.790
The reduction of personal property,
00:34:19.790 --> 00:34:22.850
including homes and businesses
will save millions of dollars
00:34:22.850 --> 00:34:25.768
to improve the quality
of life in Orange County.
00:34:25.768 --> 00:34:28.930
I fully support all
wildfire mitigation efforts
00:34:28.930 --> 00:34:31.010
by Southern California, however,
00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:32.930
I am concerned with the cost burden
00:34:32.930 --> 00:34:35.080
to the rate payers of my community
00:34:35.080 --> 00:34:37.230
and the cities that we serve
00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:40.033
with the Orange County Fire Authority.
00:34:41.139 --> 00:34:45.482
May I suggest that when we
find out what the actual cost
00:34:45.482 --> 00:34:48.904
for the wildfire risk
mitigation program is,
00:34:48.904 --> 00:34:53.550
and take it out of the rate
increase to the rate payers.
00:34:53.550 --> 00:34:56.517
This reduction would
be fair for our rate payers
00:34:56.517 --> 00:34:58.735
and all rate payers in California,
00:34:58.735 --> 00:35:00.900
and we can supplement it with funds
00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:03.372
from Governor Newsom's Wildfire Program.
00:35:03.372 --> 00:35:06.252
So hopefully we can identify those costs
00:35:06.252 --> 00:35:10.010
and supplant those out
of the rate payers pockets.
00:35:10.010 --> 00:35:12.410
I want to thank the board
and Madam President
00:35:12.410 --> 00:35:14.050
for your time and consideration
00:35:14.050 --> 00:35:16.113
in this matter and have a good day.
00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:20.650
Thank you, Mr. Mayor,
I appreciate the call.
00:35:20.650 --> 00:35:22.333
Operator the next caller please.
00:35:23.832 --> 00:35:26.130
Our next
caller is Brian Fennessy,
00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:26.980
You may go ahead.
00:35:30.910 --> 00:35:32.370
Good morning Commissioners.
00:35:32.370 --> 00:35:35.277
My name is Brian
Fennessy and as Fire Chief
00:35:35.277 --> 00:35:37.040
for the Orange County Fire Authority
00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:39.280
I'm calling in today
to express my support
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.630
for addressing wildfire risk.
00:35:41.630 --> 00:35:43.990
I have the privilege of
leading a OCFA in providing
00:35:43.990 --> 00:35:47.150
fire protection and EMS
to the 23 independent cities
00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:48.620
we serve in the County of Orange
00:35:48.620 --> 00:35:50.460
and incorporated areas.
00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:53.930
Altogether OCFA serves
two million residents.
00:35:53.930 --> 00:35:56.376
I wish to speak in support
of taking aggressive action,
00:35:56.376 --> 00:35:59.070
implement wildfire
measures that will protect
00:35:59.070 --> 00:36:00.880
the residents of Orange County
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.750
and the entire region served
by Southern California Edison.
00:36:03.750 --> 00:36:06.480
At OCFA We believe in pursuing
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.850
proven and aggressive
strategies to mitigate wildfire.
00:36:09.850 --> 00:36:12.080
This includes working
with private sector partners,
00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:16.060
ranging from developers,
builders, landowners and utilities.
00:36:16.060 --> 00:36:18.720
These partnerships have
improved the safety of our community
00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:21.020
and provide our
residents critical resources,
00:36:21.020 --> 00:36:23.348
such as state of the art
water dropping helicopters.
00:36:23.348 --> 00:36:25.490
Hundreds of feet of defensible space
00:36:25.490 --> 00:36:26.865
in the wild land urban interface
00:36:26.865 --> 00:36:28.914
and vegetation management that aligns
00:36:28.914 --> 00:36:31.105
with local conservation goals.
00:36:31.105 --> 00:36:33.440
Given the enormous cost of wildfires
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.870
early action can save lives,
property, natural habitat,
00:36:36.870 --> 00:36:39.707
and millions in added
costs to taxpayers.
00:36:39.707 --> 00:36:42.908
The fires in 2020
consumed 4.2 million acres
00:36:42.908 --> 00:36:46.273
in cost the State's Emergency
Fund over $1 billion.
00:36:47.210 --> 00:36:49.420
In Orange County, and in 2020,
00:36:49.420 --> 00:36:51.780
we dealt with three major incidents
00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:53.340
that threatened tens of thousands
00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:57.040
of our citizens, our structures
00:36:57.040 --> 00:36:59.580
and burned tens of thousands of acres.
00:36:59.580 --> 00:37:01.670
I urge the Commissioners
and members of the public
00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:02.830
to consider these costs
00:37:02.830 --> 00:37:04.710
and how early and strategic investments
00:37:04.710 --> 00:37:07.310
can save 100's of
millions in the future.
00:37:07.310 --> 00:37:09.750
I appreciate your role in
that the other advocates
00:37:09.750 --> 00:37:12.270
to seek a balance in the burden of cost.
00:37:12.270 --> 00:37:13.670
However, it is important to remember
00:37:13.670 --> 00:37:15.370
that in the case of wildfires,
00:37:15.370 --> 00:37:18.000
the cost damage and
risk over the long-term
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.737
are borne by local agencies,
residents, businesses,
00:37:20.737 --> 00:37:22.553
and in the end, taxpayers,
00:37:22.553 --> 00:37:24.681
the loss of property,
the closure of business,
00:37:24.681 --> 00:37:26.842
whether due to fire or loss of power
00:37:26.842 --> 00:37:28.930
and impacts to critical infrastructure
00:37:28.930 --> 00:37:31.890
such as hospitals and
schools are devastated.
00:37:31.890 --> 00:37:33.910
Even a small reduction
in the risk can lead to
00:37:33.910 --> 00:37:36.053
significant results when
considering the magnitude
00:37:36.053 --> 00:37:38.750
of wildfire damage that can occur.
00:37:38.750 --> 00:37:42.100
Taking actions to reduce
public safety, power shifts,
00:37:42.100 --> 00:37:43.710
and ignitions caught by power lines
00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:46.452
will save 100's of millions
of dollars in the future.
00:37:46.452 --> 00:37:48.790
We believe the efforts
and measures proposed
00:37:48.790 --> 00:37:50.942
to harden Southern
California Edison system
00:37:50.942 --> 00:37:54.190
are reasonable and reduce fire risk.
00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:55.950
I am speaking in supportive efforts
00:37:55.950 --> 00:37:57.570
to harden the electrical system
00:37:57.570 --> 00:38:00.227
and reduce wildfire
risk, which is a message
00:38:00.227 --> 00:38:03.988
OCFA consistently delivers
to individual homeowners,
00:38:03.988 --> 00:38:07.910
businesses and land owners
in the wild land urban interface.
00:38:07.910 --> 00:38:08.970
Thank you very much.
00:38:11.540 --> 00:38:12.964
Thank you Chief.
00:38:12.964 --> 00:38:14.893
Next caller, please Operator.
00:38:16.206 --> 00:38:18.750
Our next caller
is Jeanette Abbott Wicker.
00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:19.600
You may go ahead.
00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:22.680
Thank you
so much Commissioner
00:38:22.680 --> 00:38:24.590
for letting me speak today.
00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:26.541
I stand with the Reclaim
Our Power! campaign
00:38:26.541 --> 00:38:30.160
to transform our energy system
to meet community needs.
00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:31.410
Energy is a human right,
00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:33.770
and we need utilities that
are affordable, safe, resilient,
00:38:33.770 --> 00:38:35.570
and community and worker controlled.
00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:39.110
To get there, we need
you, our regulators
00:38:39.110 --> 00:38:40.250
to hold them accountable.
00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:42.293
I want PG&E held accountable
00:38:42.293 --> 00:38:45.270
because they continue to
recklessly endanger lives,
00:38:45.270 --> 00:38:47.100
property and our land.
00:38:47.100 --> 00:38:48.110
This is beyond appeal
00:38:48.110 --> 00:38:50.070
how long PG&E has been able to continue
00:38:50.070 --> 00:38:54.070
this dangerous behavior,
all for shareholder profits.
00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:56.010
We denounce the evil PG&E accountable
00:38:56.010 --> 00:38:58.330
for causing the fires
and killing people.
00:38:58.330 --> 00:39:00.430
Use the accountability
process you've voted for
00:39:00.430 --> 00:39:02.460
and make those actions
SWIFT and transparent
00:39:02.460 --> 00:39:03.710
so we can move forward
00:39:03.710 --> 00:39:06.290
toward an energy system
that will keep us all safe.
00:39:06.290 --> 00:39:08.160
PG admitted, PG&E admitted to
00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:09.840
he may have caused a Dixie Fire,
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.303
which is now the 11th
biggest fire in California history
00:39:12.303 --> 00:39:14.410
and the fifth straight year PG&E
00:39:14.410 --> 00:39:16.736
has caused a massive fire,
00:39:16.736 --> 00:39:18.186
devastating our State.
00:39:18.186 --> 00:39:22.190
And this agency approved the
PG&E plan of reorganization.
00:39:22.190 --> 00:39:25.750
Every Commissioner spoke
to the need to give the CPUC
00:39:25.750 --> 00:39:28.180
real authority to hold PG&E accountable
00:39:28.180 --> 00:39:31.530
and to transform them yet
you are still hesitating to do so.
00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:34.030
We're still waiting for
action on the Zogg fire,
00:39:34.030 --> 00:39:37.070
Kincade fire, and many of
the reckless dangerous shut off.
00:39:37.070 --> 00:39:38.900
If you continue to
wait to shut them down,
00:39:38.900 --> 00:39:41.470
they will continue to fail
and more people will die.
00:39:41.470 --> 00:39:44.260
Don't be fooled by PG&E's
promises of undergrounding
00:39:44.260 --> 00:39:46.570
or other distractions
and false solutions.
00:39:46.570 --> 00:39:48.860
They have proven
they can't keep us safe.
00:39:48.860 --> 00:39:51.240
All the while PG&E is
raising their rates and charges
00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:54.000
to people for the dangerous
failures and the utility
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.910
while paying out
millions to shareholders
00:39:55.910 --> 00:39:58.680
and corporate executives
who caused this crisis.
00:39:58.680 --> 00:40:00.513
We demand that you
immediately place PG&E,
00:40:00.513 --> 00:40:03.430
through step four of the
enhanced oversight process
00:40:03.430 --> 00:40:06.370
for gross negligence and
systemic noncompliance,
00:40:06.370 --> 00:40:09.450
to revisit and reject
PG&E Safety Certificate
00:40:09.450 --> 00:40:10.283
that you granted,
00:40:10.283 --> 00:40:14.020
but refused to hold a
vote on, in April of 2021.
00:40:14.020 --> 00:40:17.167
Make the investigations
of the 2019 Kincade Fire
00:40:17.167 --> 00:40:19.610
and the 2020 Zogg Fire public.
00:40:19.610 --> 00:40:22.740
Lessons from which might
have prevented the Dixie Fire.
00:40:22.740 --> 00:40:24.700
I also stand with the collars to end
00:40:24.700 --> 00:40:27.830
the Dirty Energy System
and shut down SoCalGas.
00:40:27.830 --> 00:40:28.663
Thank you.
00:40:32.050 --> 00:40:34.363
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.260
Our next
caller is Sarah Wiltfong
00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:41.000
with LA County Business Federation.
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:41.850
You may go ahead.
00:40:43.240 --> 00:40:45.090
Thank you, good
morning Commissioners.
00:40:45.090 --> 00:40:46.793
My name is Sarah Wiltfong and I'm,
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.210
The Federation and Alliance
over 200 business organizations
00:40:52.210 --> 00:40:55.550
who represent over 400,000
employers in Los Angeles county.
00:40:55.550 --> 00:40:57.990
And we're here to express
some concerns regarding
00:40:57.990 --> 00:41:00.080
Southern California
Edison's General Rate Case.
00:41:00.080 --> 00:41:03.050
And it's our understanding
of the CPUC reduced
00:41:03.050 --> 00:41:04.030
covered conductor funding,
00:41:04.030 --> 00:41:06.060
a necessary part of grid hardening
00:41:06.060 --> 00:41:08.830
and reducing wildfire risk by 55%
00:41:08.830 --> 00:41:11.910
resulting in over 3000 fewer
miles that were covered.
00:41:11.910 --> 00:41:15.420
As stated earlier in the State
has set clear and necessary
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:16.830
wildfire mitigation goals
00:41:16.830 --> 00:41:18.920
and reducing funding for
these important upgrades
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.030
puts our communities at risk.
00:41:21.030 --> 00:41:22.610
Not funding these necessary measures
00:41:22.610 --> 00:41:24.230
as temperatures increase will increase
00:41:24.230 --> 00:41:25.720
the likelihood of wildfires
00:41:25.720 --> 00:41:27.810
and frustrating public
safety power shutoffs.
00:41:27.810 --> 00:41:29.840
as a primary source of protection.
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.180
We strongly suggest the CPUC reconsider
00:41:32.180 --> 00:41:34.000
Southern California Edison's requests
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.240
and increase funding for grid hardening.
00:41:36.240 --> 00:41:37.253
Thank you very much.
00:41:39.120 --> 00:41:42.320
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.780
Our next caller-
Operator?
00:41:51.780 --> 00:41:53.760
Is Mark.
Yeah, thank you.
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.850
My apologies Mark Serratt.
00:41:55.850 --> 00:41:57.744
with the Greater Los Angeles Boy Scouts.
00:41:57.744 --> 00:41:59.103
You may go ahead.
00:42:00.570 --> 00:42:02.170
Good morning,
thank you Commissioners
00:42:02.170 --> 00:42:04.510
for listening to us.
00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:05.860
My name is Mark Serratt
00:42:05.860 --> 00:42:07.860
with the Greater Los Angeles Boy Scouts.
00:42:08.850 --> 00:42:11.930
We have camps in different places,
00:42:11.930 --> 00:42:14.310
but we do have one on Catalina Island
00:42:14.310 --> 00:42:17.720
and I am here to
ask for y'all to help us
00:42:17.720 --> 00:42:19.790
with the covering of the wires
00:42:19.790 --> 00:42:21.800
on Catalina Island and other places
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.120
and covering of the conductors
00:42:23.120 --> 00:42:26.003
so that reduces the fire risk.
00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:30.170
I lived on Catalina for 25 years.
00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:32.380
I was part of the 2007 fire.
00:42:32.380 --> 00:42:34.710
I was on the island when
there was the 2007 fire.
00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:36.906
We were without
power for like three days
00:42:36.906 --> 00:42:39.477
without phones for a month or so
00:42:39.477 --> 00:42:42.280
and it was very hard
for us to run our camp
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:43.587
and have our campers there
00:42:43.587 --> 00:42:45.915
and it affected us that our business
00:42:45.915 --> 00:42:48.040
and other things.
00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:51.023
Thank you for listening to
us and have a blessed day.
00:42:53.010 --> 00:42:54.130
Thank you.
00:42:54.130 --> 00:42:55.803
Operator next caller, please.
00:42:58.150 --> 00:43:01.680
Our next
caller is Kyoko Hibino.
00:43:01.680 --> 00:43:02.530
You may go ahead.
00:43:04.317 --> 00:43:06.696
Hi, my name
is Kyoko Hibino,
00:43:06.696 --> 00:43:11.696
I live 250 feet from Aliso
Canyon Gas Facility for 14 years.
00:43:12.370 --> 00:43:17.370
I was a happy, active person
with healthy gene and habit,
00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:20.127
no family history of cancer,
00:43:20.127 --> 00:43:23.230
but my health started showing issues
00:43:23.230 --> 00:43:26.670
after moving next to
this oil and the gas field
00:43:26.670 --> 00:43:28.175
by SoCalGas.
00:43:28.175 --> 00:43:30.762
After gas blew out in 2015,
00:43:30.762 --> 00:43:32.810
many of my health symptoms,
00:43:32.810 --> 00:43:36.480
including nosebleed,
respiratory issues, headaches,
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.980
and palpitations increased
a lot more to the worse.
00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:45.980
Even two of my cats had a
nosebleed and all had asthma.
00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:50.930
Often I had so much blood
from my nose and throat
00:43:50.930 --> 00:43:54.348
and I was drinking my own blood.
00:43:54.348 --> 00:43:55.800
It was nightmare.
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.530
I was wondering, am I okay?
00:43:57.530 --> 00:44:00.080
Well now I know I was not.
00:44:00.080 --> 00:44:02.310
I was diagnosed with cancer.
00:44:02.310 --> 00:44:06.780
My cat also was diagnosed
with cancer and recently died.
00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:11.236
We still also smell gas burning
chemicals during the odor.
00:44:11.236 --> 00:44:14.427
It's acidity increased capacity.
00:44:14.427 --> 00:44:16.060
There will be more leaks.
00:44:16.060 --> 00:44:18.770
For us it is a ticking bomb.
00:44:18.770 --> 00:44:21.242
There is no such a
thing like safe operation
00:44:21.242 --> 00:44:22.550
in this facility.
00:44:22.550 --> 00:44:25.530
You cannot ignore
the public health crisis
00:44:25.530 --> 00:44:29.490
this facility caused
and it continues causing.
00:44:29.490 --> 00:44:31.710
On top of it, multiple studies say
00:44:31.710 --> 00:44:35.010
same gas poison us
also cause health impact
00:44:35.010 --> 00:44:40.010
like child asthma in our own
homes due to gas appliances.
00:44:40.030 --> 00:44:42.170
California's gas demand will be the one
00:44:42.170 --> 00:44:46.160
with the carbonizations effort.
00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:50.890
Already 48 cities are phasing
out gas in new constructions.
00:44:50.890 --> 00:44:55.403
Will you promote unsafe,
unnecessarily gas for-profits
00:44:55.403 --> 00:44:58.609
causing air pollution,
climate and health crisis?
00:44:58.609 --> 00:45:03.350
I urge you to at least decrease
capacity to the minimum,
00:45:03.350 --> 00:45:07.400
to use only to the last resort
and work on shutting down.
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:08.233
Thank you.
00:45:10.450 --> 00:45:13.163
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.753
Hey.
00:45:21.790 --> 00:45:22.623
Hello.
00:45:24.740 --> 00:45:28.793
Guys if you do the
pizza bagels today for lunch?
00:45:31.210 --> 00:45:32.043
Yeah.
00:45:33.060 --> 00:45:36.063
Rachel, I think
your, your mike's on.
00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:38.400
Operator could you please bring
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:39.700
the next caller on please?
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:43.890
Our next
caller is Jessica Craven
00:45:43.890 --> 00:45:46.057
and again, just a
reminder for all callers,
00:45:46.057 --> 00:45:48.870
please remember to
speak slowly and clearly
00:45:48.870 --> 00:45:51.083
to accommodate for Spanish translation.
00:45:51.990 --> 00:45:53.533
Thank you, you may go ahead.
00:45:54.730 --> 00:45:57.530
Can you hear me? Hello?
00:45:57.530 --> 00:45:58.363
Yes, we can hear you,
00:45:58.363 --> 00:46:00.610
go ahead.
Okay, great, sorry
00:46:00.610 --> 00:46:02.500
Hi my name is Jessica Craven
00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:04.490
and I am also calling to stand
00:46:04.490 --> 00:46:09.040
with Reclaim Our Power!
and their campaign to transform
00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:11.650
our energy system to
meet community needs.
00:46:11.650 --> 00:46:15.560
And I am also someone who
really wants to see you all hold
00:46:15.560 --> 00:46:19.157
PG&E accountable for
causing fires and killing people.
00:46:19.157 --> 00:46:20.680
And it's pretty remarkable.
00:46:20.680 --> 00:46:24.150
I was just looking through
all of the things that PG&E
00:46:24.150 --> 00:46:26.218
has failed at doing.
00:46:26.218 --> 00:46:28.900
The Zogg Fire killed four people
00:46:28.900 --> 00:46:30.854
and burned over 56,000 acres.
00:46:30.854 --> 00:46:32.701
They engage in reckless shove-ups
00:46:32.701 --> 00:46:34.980
that endanger our power to live.
00:46:34.980 --> 00:46:37.380
They have failed to make
significant hardware upgrades
00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:40.080
to power lines, to reduce fire risk.
00:46:40.080 --> 00:46:43.394
They are shorting
compensation for fire survivors.
00:46:43.394 --> 00:46:45.610
They promise that the
plan of reorganization
00:46:45.610 --> 00:46:48.880
would be rate payer
neutral and it's not.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.722
I could go on.
00:46:50.722 --> 00:46:53.769
Their safety certificate is a sham.
00:46:53.769 --> 00:46:56.810
And you know,
there's just, it's endless.
00:46:56.810 --> 00:46:58.450
They are a complete disaster.
00:46:58.450 --> 00:47:01.042
They have a dismal safety record.
00:47:01.042 --> 00:47:04.610
It's just really terrible.
00:47:04.610 --> 00:47:09.600
So what I am also asking is that
00:47:09.600 --> 00:47:11.530
you immediately place PG&E
00:47:11.530 --> 00:47:13.750
into step four of the
Enhanced Oversight Process
00:47:13.750 --> 00:47:17.280
for gross negligence and
systemic noncompliance.
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.935
Also revisit and reject
PG&E safety certificate
00:47:19.935 --> 00:47:21.414
that you granted,
00:47:21.414 --> 00:47:23.570
but did not hold a vote on
00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:25.010
and also make the investigations
00:47:25.010 --> 00:47:29.280
of the 2019 Kincade Fire
and the 2020 Zogg Fire public,
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.650
lessons from which might've
prevented the Dixie Fire
00:47:31.650 --> 00:47:33.109
and all of the fires that we know
00:47:33.109 --> 00:47:34.610
are coming down the pike.
00:47:34.610 --> 00:47:36.180
I mean, these are lights
00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:37.430
that you can either save or not,
00:47:37.430 --> 00:47:38.510
depending on what you do.
00:47:38.510 --> 00:47:39.740
And in closing,
00:47:39.740 --> 00:47:42.169
I also want to stand
with the people calling in
00:47:42.169 --> 00:47:45.210
about Ending the Dirty Energy System
00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:46.800
and the shutdown of SoCalGas.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:48.810
And I would also like to add before I go
00:47:48.810 --> 00:47:50.436
as a rooftop solar owner,
00:47:50.436 --> 00:47:53.170
that it's really distressing
to me to hear that SeaPak
00:47:53.170 --> 00:47:55.650
is coming for rooftop solar.
00:47:55.650 --> 00:47:56.620
Shame on you guys.
00:47:56.620 --> 00:47:59.300
Please stop that and, you know,
00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:01.810
stand with the environment
and not with big industry.
00:48:01.810 --> 00:48:03.160
Thank you so much. Bye-bye.
00:48:04.672 --> 00:48:07.183
Thank you, Operator
next caller please?
00:48:09.390 --> 00:48:11.460
The next
caller is Matthew Pukeko.
00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:12.703
Your line is now open.
00:48:15.190 --> 00:48:16.480
Hi, my name is Matt Pukeko.
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:17.650
I'm a Porter Ranch resident,
00:48:17.650 --> 00:48:20.893
right next door to the Aliso
Canyon Gas Storage Facility.
00:48:21.810 --> 00:48:24.880
Regarding potentially
increasing the capacity there.
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.240
The March 30th, 2020
online meeting with CPUC.
00:48:28.240 --> 00:48:29.770
A question was posed by me
00:48:29.770 --> 00:48:32.220
as to how reliability is affected.
00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:33.729
If that facility is shut down
00:48:33.729 --> 00:48:36.560
or used only as an asset of last resort.
00:48:36.560 --> 00:48:38.470
Suddenly like tomorrow
00:48:38.470 --> 00:48:41.920
as it was during the
blowout of 2015, 2016.
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.100
The answer from FTI Consulting was that
00:48:44.100 --> 00:48:45.890
it has not been studied.
00:48:45.890 --> 00:48:47.490
Yet that place was reduced
00:48:47.490 --> 00:48:50.290
and not used for close to two years
00:48:50.290 --> 00:48:51.540
due to health issues.
00:48:51.540 --> 00:48:52.880
Still is reduced.
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.220
The only thing that has
ever brought it offline,
00:48:55.220 --> 00:48:57.980
that seems like a really
big gaping hole in the study.
00:48:57.980 --> 00:48:58.813
Now, one of the Commissioners
00:48:58.813 --> 00:49:00.012
not sure who was speaking
00:49:00.012 --> 00:49:02.787
on that meeting also
said, I'm paraphrasing,
00:49:02.787 --> 00:49:05.164
"We could look at the circumstances,
00:49:05.164 --> 00:49:07.030
what the circumstances were at the time
00:49:07.030 --> 00:49:09.630
and how they relate to
what we are assuming.
00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:13.400
And that could inform us
knowing if there is a further gap
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:14.790
we need to account for,
00:49:14.790 --> 00:49:17.096
or if there is an assumption
that we need to examine",
00:49:17.096 --> 00:49:18.550
end paraphrasing.
00:49:18.550 --> 00:49:20.860
I'm here to remind you
to put what happened
00:49:20.860 --> 00:49:22.300
as a result of the blowout,
00:49:22.300 --> 00:49:25.280
the health cost and the
ongoing dangers of that facility
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:26.240
into the equation,
00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:27.862
as it should have been
from the beginning.
00:49:27.862 --> 00:49:30.360
The storage capacity cannot be increased
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.500
until the health issues of that facility
00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:33.510
have been addressed.
00:49:33.510 --> 00:49:35.540
In fact, it should be reduced back
00:49:35.540 --> 00:49:36.920
to an asset of last resort
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:38.940
as should the storage capacity.
00:49:38.940 --> 00:49:40.940
That worked well for over two years,
00:49:40.940 --> 00:49:44.510
but as long been abandoned by the CPUC.
00:49:44.510 --> 00:49:46.470
Finally, this proceeding that
00:49:46.470 --> 00:49:48.310
that proceeding is looking at the,
00:49:48.310 --> 00:49:52.130
what might happen in one
hypothetical event in 10 years
00:49:52.130 --> 00:49:56.170
while SoCalGas in sworn
testimony says that that facility
00:49:56.170 --> 00:49:57.700
leaks two times per day.
00:49:57.700 --> 00:50:00.543
They said that for the AQMD in 2016.
00:50:01.647 --> 00:50:03.603
And the James Marshall
head of the Adoga at the time
00:50:03.603 --> 00:50:07.090
said that that place could
be off gassing for 500 years.
00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:09.170
They have no idea
because of the blowout.
00:50:09.170 --> 00:50:11.258
He said that in 2016 in testimony.
00:50:11.258 --> 00:50:14.010
Other AQMD emission violations
00:50:14.010 --> 00:50:16.675
have been issued to that
facility since the blowout,
00:50:16.675 --> 00:50:19.210
Dozens and dozens of emission events,
00:50:19.210 --> 00:50:21.600
many documented by AQMD,
00:50:21.600 --> 00:50:23.160
some admitted by SoCalGas
00:50:23.160 --> 00:50:26.350
and most assuredly
caused adverse reactions
00:50:26.350 --> 00:50:27.760
from the local residents.
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.380
Those all have actually happened-
00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:32.360
Matthew, excuse
me, but your time is up.
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:34.070
One last sentence.
00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:35.888
Please tell me you're
not ignoring all that
00:50:35.888 --> 00:50:37.150
what's going on now,
00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:39.840
while we worry about what
might happen once in 10 years.
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:41.173
Thank you.
00:50:41.173 --> 00:50:42.034
Thank you.
00:50:42.034 --> 00:50:43.790
Operator the next caller please
00:50:43.790 --> 00:50:46.600
and I would like to remind those of you
00:50:46.600 --> 00:50:50.070
who are calling in,
try and speak slowly.
00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:54.537
We are being translated
from English to Spanish today.
00:50:54.537 --> 00:50:58.113
So just a reminder to
speak slowly, thank you.
00:51:01.140 --> 00:51:03.720
The next caller
is Matthew d'Alessio
00:51:03.720 --> 00:51:06.420
from California State
University in Northridge.
00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:07.653
Your line is now open.
00:51:09.150 --> 00:51:09.983
Great, thanks.
00:51:09.983 --> 00:51:12.240
Hi everyone. My name
is Matthew d'Alessio,
00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:15.440
I'm a Professor of Geology
at Cal State Northridge,
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.170
and I also have some
general public comment
00:51:17.170 --> 00:51:19.910
about the Aliso Canyon
Gas Storage Facility.
00:51:19.910 --> 00:51:21.044
Now in 2019,
00:51:21.044 --> 00:51:22.920
I reviewed the draft seismic study
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:24.550
that was submitted by SoCalGas
00:51:24.550 --> 00:51:27.320
I think you probably saw it as well.
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:28.510
And one of the things that it showed
00:51:28.510 --> 00:51:30.690
is that if the Aliso
Canyon Storage Facility
00:51:30.690 --> 00:51:33.090
was operated at full capacity,
00:51:33.090 --> 00:51:35.360
it could produce a
leak eight times larger
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:36.710
than the 2015 blowout
00:51:36.710 --> 00:51:38.710
during a worst case earthquake scenario.
00:51:40.622 --> 00:51:43.020
So if you kind of thought
that one out of control well
00:51:43.020 --> 00:51:44.330
was difficult to deal with
00:51:44.330 --> 00:51:47.360
this scenario has more
than 40 active wells
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.150
rupturing and the leak could
last more than five years
00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.473
as gas migrates to the surface
through geologic conduits.
00:51:54.520 --> 00:51:55.820
So how likely is that scenario?
00:51:55.820 --> 00:51:58.360
Well, according to the
SoCalGas seismic study,
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.760
there's a 5% chance of
this earthquake happening
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:01.969
in the next 50 years.
00:52:01.969 --> 00:52:04.000
That's one in 20.
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.530
Beyond that we really
don't know the probability of,
00:52:06.530 --> 00:52:08.035
of this actually happening.
00:52:08.035 --> 00:52:11.589
One of the things that a Cal
Gen required SoCalGas to do,
00:52:11.589 --> 00:52:13.360
is to update their study in part,
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.071
because they made
some unwise assumptions
00:52:15.071 --> 00:52:17.813
about post-earthquake permeability.
00:52:18.866 --> 00:52:21.900
And I don't know if the updated
seismic study is complete,
00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:23.730
but I do know it has not
been released to the public
00:52:23.730 --> 00:52:26.235
where it can be independently reviewed.
00:52:26.235 --> 00:52:27.710
With the previous draft
00:52:27.710 --> 00:52:29.165
I know that Cal Gen
was really responsive
00:52:29.165 --> 00:52:31.548
to the geologic hazard
community's concerns.
00:52:31.548 --> 00:52:34.010
They integrated all public comments.
00:52:34.010 --> 00:52:36.820
They ensured that SoCalGas
is going to do things right.
00:52:36.820 --> 00:52:39.310
But when I did talk
with Cal Gen at the time,
00:52:39.310 --> 00:52:41.980
they really reassured me
that the field was operating
00:52:41.980 --> 00:52:43.930
at a lower pressure in the interim.
00:52:43.930 --> 00:52:47.461
And so I I'm hoping that that
will continue to be the case
00:52:47.461 --> 00:52:49.492
until we have a better sense of things
00:52:49.492 --> 00:52:51.490
and I think that once the CPUC
00:52:51.490 --> 00:52:53.540
does see the risk properly quantified,
00:52:53.540 --> 00:52:57.150
I'm not sure that we're going
to be comfortable with really
00:52:57.150 --> 00:52:59.080
rolling the dice for the
surrounding community.
00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:01.930
There's a substantial
seismic hazard there.
00:53:01.930 --> 00:53:02.763
Thank you.
00:53:04.990 --> 00:53:05.850
[President Batjer] Thank you.
00:53:05.850 --> 00:53:07.563
Operator, the next caller please.
00:53:08.630 --> 00:53:10.300
The next
caller is Rachel Smith.
00:53:10.300 --> 00:53:11.743
Your line is now open.
00:53:13.080 --> 00:53:15.820
Hi, my name is
Rachel, I live in Los Angeles
00:53:15.820 --> 00:53:18.723
and I'm here to talk about Aliso Canyon.
00:53:18.723 --> 00:53:21.610
My community still suffers
daily from the physical
00:53:21.610 --> 00:53:25.100
and mental health from
the gas blow out there.
00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:30.100
So I'm calling to urge the
CPUC to reject the request
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:31.890
request by oil companies
00:53:31.890 --> 00:53:33.690
and SoCalGas-
Maybe in another hour.
00:53:33.690 --> 00:53:35.680
To increase storage units
00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:38.420
and storage limits at Aliso Canyon,
00:53:38.420 --> 00:53:42.230
not only for the health benefits,
00:53:42.230 --> 00:53:45.690
obviously of the constituents
and frontline communities
00:53:45.690 --> 00:53:46.790
that are right there,
00:53:46.790 --> 00:53:49.790
before the jobs that involves as well.
00:53:49.790 --> 00:53:52.810
What we need now is not
a facility and expansions,
00:53:52.810 --> 00:53:54.830
but address transition for the workers
00:53:54.830 --> 00:53:57.400
and everyone involved at the location.
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.930
This has gone on for too long
00:53:58.930 --> 00:54:00.639
and expanding this will just continue
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.909
the same kicking the can
process out for years to come.
00:54:03.909 --> 00:54:05.380
We need to be opposite.
00:54:05.380 --> 00:54:07.760
And so therefore I urge you to not,
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.433
to reject the request
to expand, thank you.
00:54:13.870 --> 00:54:16.990
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
00:54:16.990 --> 00:54:18.790
The next
caller is Al Weinrub.
00:54:18.790 --> 00:54:20.083
Your line is now open.
00:54:21.580 --> 00:54:23.770
Hi, this is Al
Weinrub Coordinator of
00:54:23.770 --> 00:54:25.860
The Local Clean Energy Alliance.
00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:29.060
We support the current
and feverish calls
00:54:29.060 --> 00:54:31.970
of Reclaim Our Power! campaign that you,
00:54:31.970 --> 00:54:34.500
The Commission hold PG&E accountable
00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:36.733
for the feral destruction and death
00:54:36.733 --> 00:54:40.270
that it has imposed to
fine California rate payers.
00:54:40.270 --> 00:54:43.979
In April, over 500 of
us called out your failure
00:54:43.979 --> 00:54:45.660
to protect us,
00:54:45.660 --> 00:54:47.500
finding to the inaction,
00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:50.533
since you approved the
PG&E bankruptcy settlement
00:54:50.533 --> 00:54:54.194
that settled that
stiffed wildfire survivors
00:54:54.194 --> 00:54:58.660
and forced the rate payers
to pay for PG&E's negligence.
00:54:58.660 --> 00:54:59.755
At the time you promised,
00:54:59.755 --> 00:55:03.287
an intent oversight and
enforcement of PG&E's
00:55:03.287 --> 00:55:06.010
safety responsibilities.
00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:09.762
That process has
proven to be a total sham.
00:55:09.762 --> 00:55:12.789
The continued wildfire
death and destruction
00:55:12.789 --> 00:55:15.180
is on your hands.
00:55:15.180 --> 00:55:17.987
You are responsible for the Dixie Fire
00:55:17.987 --> 00:55:21.350
raging only a few miles from Paradise
00:55:21.350 --> 00:55:24.220
where the campfire claimed 85 deaths
00:55:24.220 --> 00:55:26.390
just three years ago.
00:55:26.390 --> 00:55:28.110
You, The Commission
00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:32.980
passively approved PG&E's
flawed wildfire mitigation plan,
00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:37.980
which is the license to burn
that PG&E is now exercising
00:55:38.180 --> 00:55:41.820
assured that it will
escape financial liability
00:55:41.820 --> 00:55:45.490
for the damages that it is causing.
00:55:45.490 --> 00:55:49.550
You the Commission have
now utilized your own oversight
00:55:49.550 --> 00:55:51.530
and enforcement powers,
00:55:51.530 --> 00:55:54.641
a violation of your
obligation as regulators
00:55:54.641 --> 00:55:57.780
to protect the California residents.
00:55:57.780 --> 00:56:02.160
You the Commission or the
enablers of PG&E's negligence,
00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:04.910
of wildfire safety.
00:56:04.910 --> 00:56:07.890
It is the failure of
you, The Commission,
00:56:07.890 --> 00:56:10.294
that is putting California's at risk
00:56:10.294 --> 00:56:14.510
and demonstrating that
the prosperity of PG&E
00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:17.934
and the other investor
owned utility shareholders
00:56:17.934 --> 00:56:20.333
is more important to The Commission,
00:56:20.333 --> 00:56:23.959
than the survival of
the people of California.
00:56:23.959 --> 00:56:27.223
We hold you responsible
for this negligence.
00:56:28.450 --> 00:56:29.323
Changing climate.
00:56:32.700 --> 00:56:35.010
I also support the demands to shutdown,
00:56:35.010 --> 00:56:37.813
the Dirty Energy Production by SoCalGas.
00:56:44.910 --> 00:56:46.300
Thank you.
00:56:46.300 --> 00:56:47.950
Operator the next caller, please.
00:56:48.830 --> 00:56:50.660
The next
caller is David McCord.
00:56:50.660 --> 00:56:52.023
Your line is now open.
00:56:53.020 --> 00:56:54.780
Hi, I'm David McCord,
00:56:54.780 --> 00:56:57.810
and I'm a proud rate
payer and El Cerrito.
00:56:57.810 --> 00:56:59.740
I've got two things.
00:56:59.740 --> 00:57:04.237
First, The Commission needs
to hold PG&E accountable
00:57:04.237 --> 00:57:06.640
for it's lack of investment
00:57:06.640 --> 00:57:11.050
to harden its conductors
from wildfire hazards.
00:57:11.050 --> 00:57:15.680
Simply replacing its bare
wires with covered conductors
00:57:15.680 --> 00:57:18.080
and reinforcing cable,
00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:22.384
could radically reduce the
danger from tree strikes.
00:57:22.384 --> 00:57:26.920
Types of fuses that spark when they blow
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:31.290
should not even be in
high fire danger areas.
00:57:31.290 --> 00:57:35.143
That may be what caused the Dixie Fire.
00:57:36.180 --> 00:57:39.530
Second, decades old modeling tools
00:57:39.530 --> 00:57:41.720
to evaluate the integration
00:57:41.720 --> 00:57:46.260
of distributed energy
resources into the power grid
00:57:46.260 --> 00:57:48.223
are far out of date.
00:57:49.120 --> 00:57:53.955
With today's powerful
computers and technology,
00:57:53.955 --> 00:57:58.140
more broad-based and
detailed modeling tools
00:57:58.140 --> 00:58:01.684
will give you much better information.
00:58:01.684 --> 00:58:05.450
Vibrant, clean energies modeling tool
00:58:05.450 --> 00:58:07.463
is now state of the art.
00:58:08.330 --> 00:58:10.890
Considering The Commission's seriously
00:58:10.890 --> 00:58:14.178
responsibility to get things right,
00:58:14.178 --> 00:58:18.780
you need to use this
or something similar.
00:58:18.780 --> 00:58:22.780
This agency could contract with Vibrant
00:58:22.780 --> 00:58:25.350
to run the models that we need now.
00:58:25.350 --> 00:58:27.249
In the meantime,
00:58:27.249 --> 00:58:32.249
we could gear up to be able
to do our own modern modeling
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.803
if we so choose, thank you.
00:58:37.970 --> 00:58:39.870
Thank you, Mr. McCord.
00:58:39.870 --> 00:58:42.290
Operator the next caller please.
00:58:42.290 --> 00:58:44.200
The next
caller is Rick Guerlain.
00:58:44.200 --> 00:58:45.453
Your line is now open.
00:58:46.650 --> 00:58:48.970
Good morning, my
name is Rick Guerlain.
00:58:48.970 --> 00:58:51.600
I was hired Economics
Instructor and lifetime resident
00:58:51.600 --> 00:58:54.725
of California, and a member of Kern.
00:58:54.725 --> 00:58:56.570
Two close friends of mine
00:58:56.570 --> 00:58:59.320
whose lives were severely threatened
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.272
and lost their home and the community
00:59:02.272 --> 00:59:05.250
that they lived in for
decades in Paradise
00:59:05.250 --> 00:59:07.248
is one of the reasons I'm calling.
00:59:07.248 --> 00:59:10.313
Recently over two years after the fire,
00:59:10.313 --> 00:59:12.650
they've gotten a little bit of money,
00:59:12.650 --> 00:59:14.030
but they're unclear about when
00:59:14.030 --> 00:59:16.120
and how they'll get the remainder.
00:59:16.120 --> 00:59:17.940
Thankfully most of their friends
00:59:17.940 --> 00:59:21.063
have still received no
compensation at all.
00:59:22.197 --> 00:59:25.659
I also lived in
Sacramento for four years,
00:59:25.659 --> 00:59:28.727
where there is a publicly
owned energy company.
00:59:28.727 --> 00:59:30.775
SMUD, their strange name
00:59:30.775 --> 00:59:33.532
telecom and municipal utility district.
00:59:33.532 --> 00:59:36.210
Not as well managed with rates about
00:59:36.210 --> 00:59:38.788
35% less than PG&E.
00:59:38.788 --> 00:59:41.140
SMUD shared
responsibility with the public
00:59:41.140 --> 00:59:44.047
by closing down Rancho
Seco Nuclear Plant in '89.
00:59:45.790 --> 00:59:47.550
I did (indistinct) things.
00:59:47.550 --> 00:59:49.660
I believe our energy should be provided
00:59:49.660 --> 00:59:51.743
by similar public institutions.
00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:56.100
As someone who has
installed solar I'm appalled
00:59:56.100 --> 00:59:59.980
at obstacles to rooftop solar
power that exist in California
00:59:59.980 --> 01:00:01.909
to boost PG&E profits.
01:00:01.909 --> 01:00:04.260
I stand with Reclaim Our Power!
01:00:04.260 --> 01:00:05.700
The transformer energy system
01:00:05.700 --> 01:00:08.500
to meet community needs
not profits for shareholders
01:00:08.500 --> 01:00:10.823
and massive executive
compensation packages.
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.420
As the responsible regulator,
you must immediately
01:00:15.420 --> 01:00:17.730
price the PG&E into step four
01:00:17.730 --> 01:00:20.010
of the Enhanced Oversight Process,
01:00:20.010 --> 01:00:22.920
revisit and reject
PG&E safety certificate,
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:26.477
make the investigations
of the 2019 Kincade Fire
01:00:26.477 --> 01:00:28.670
and Zogg Fire public,
01:00:28.670 --> 01:00:31.190
lessons that may prevent future fires.
01:00:31.190 --> 01:00:32.570
Lastly, I'd just like to put a plug
01:00:32.570 --> 01:00:34.560
to my son who's 24 years old in training
01:00:34.560 --> 01:00:35.820
to be a firefighter
01:00:35.820 --> 01:00:37.160
and as a proud department of fire
01:00:37.160 --> 01:00:38.247
and is ready to get up there
01:00:38.247 --> 01:00:40.470
and I hope to hire a
hell of a lot more people
01:00:40.470 --> 01:00:43.278
to do what's needed
to protect California.
01:00:43.278 --> 01:00:44.193
Thank you.
01:00:45.810 --> 01:00:48.673
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:00:50.100 --> 01:00:52.460
The next
caller is Shaina Nanavati,
01:00:52.460 --> 01:00:53.863
your line is now open.
01:00:56.730 --> 01:00:58.210
My name is Shaina Nanavati
01:00:58.210 --> 01:01:01.629
from the Reclaim Our Power!
campaign for utility justice.
01:01:01.629 --> 01:01:03.320
Pardon my language,
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:06.590
but what the hell are we living in?
01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:08.300
With all due respect to Commissioners
01:01:08.300 --> 01:01:10.548
you are not doing your job.
01:01:10.548 --> 01:01:13.890
We can blame climate change
for how awful these fires are,
01:01:13.890 --> 01:01:15.830
but let's not ignore the fact that PG&E
01:01:15.830 --> 01:01:19.019
and their negligence is causing them.
01:01:19.019 --> 01:01:23.030
They were given a safety
certificate, a license to burn,
01:01:23.030 --> 01:01:25.498
and that's what they keep doing.
01:01:25.498 --> 01:01:29.420
And the Enhanced Oversight
Process was put into place
01:01:29.420 --> 01:01:31.210
to put PG&E in receivership
01:01:31.210 --> 01:01:33.240
if they don't clean up their act.
01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:35.429
How many more years
of losing entire towns
01:01:35.429 --> 01:01:38.751
before you do what you
know needs to be done?
01:01:38.751 --> 01:01:41.620
How much is PG&E paying
you to sit on your hands
01:01:41.620 --> 01:01:44.230
while people die President Batjer?
01:01:44.230 --> 01:01:48.190
Move PG&E into step four of
the Enhanced Oversight Process
01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:51.490
now for their systemic noncompliance,
01:01:51.490 --> 01:01:55.253
serious violations of the
law and gross negligence.
01:01:56.090 --> 01:01:58.400
If this isn't conscious
and willful disregard
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:00.380
of their rights and safety of others,
01:02:00.380 --> 01:02:02.620
then I don't know what it is.
01:02:02.620 --> 01:02:04.930
They didn't report the
Dixie Fire for five days
01:02:04.930 --> 01:02:07.200
and sent secret drones
to try to put out the fire
01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:09.000
that they knew they caused,
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:11.517
stopping Cal Fire from
being able to do their job.
01:02:11.517 --> 01:02:14.850
Don't allow them to keep
passing the cost of murder onto us.
01:02:14.850 --> 01:02:15.683
Do your job.
01:02:20.820 --> 01:02:23.980
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:26.010
The next
caller is a Margot Davis.
01:02:26.010 --> 01:02:27.423
Your line is now open.
01:02:28.274 --> 01:02:30.730
Hello, can you hear me?
01:02:30.730 --> 01:02:32.901
Yes, we can, please go ahead.
01:02:32.901 --> 01:02:37.070
Margo Davis
here, as it concerns,
01:02:37.070 --> 01:02:40.340
California senior citizen
01:02:40.340 --> 01:02:43.585
to demand that there be no expansion
01:02:43.585 --> 01:02:48.585
of the gas storage
facility at Aliso Canyon,
01:02:49.890 --> 01:02:54.813
no more expansion of
fossil fuel infrastructure.
01:02:54.813 --> 01:02:59.813
Also here to demand that the CPUC
01:03:00.539 --> 01:03:05.200
revisit the SoCalGas project
01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:08.596
to expand the gas compressor station
01:03:08.596 --> 01:03:13.596
in Ventura and order
a halt to that project
01:03:14.410 --> 01:03:18.980
for an EIR to be performed.
01:03:18.980 --> 01:03:21.580
Repeat, we do not need
01:03:21.580 --> 01:03:25.871
expansion of fossil fuel infrastructure.
01:03:25.871 --> 01:03:30.871
Please observe what more
and more concerned citizens
01:03:32.030 --> 01:03:33.263
are telling you.
01:03:34.140 --> 01:03:35.520
They're in the streets,
01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:37.713
they're marching and picketing.
01:03:40.240 --> 01:03:42.693
They're flooding the social media.
01:03:44.040 --> 01:03:46.653
They're forming neighborhood coalitions.
01:03:48.120 --> 01:03:51.693
They're forcing public
forums to be held.
01:03:52.954 --> 01:03:57.954
They have the unanimous
support of their City Council,
01:03:58.250 --> 01:04:03.170
School Board Members,
County Supervisors,
01:04:03.170 --> 01:04:05.350
State Assembly and Senate Members
01:04:06.490 --> 01:04:11.087
and they have corporate
funding and support.
01:04:11.087 --> 01:04:13.845
They're trying to do everything they can
01:04:13.845 --> 01:04:18.845
to do the job that this
Commission is charged to do.
01:04:19.366 --> 01:04:21.640
Wake up!
01:04:21.640 --> 01:04:23.683
Rain in SoCalGas.
01:04:25.270 --> 01:04:28.173
Think about our grandchildren.
01:04:28.173 --> 01:04:31.503
Thank you.
01:04:31.503 --> 01:04:34.183
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.710
The next caller
is Suzanne Canning.
01:04:37.710 --> 01:04:39.073
Your line is now open.
01:04:41.390 --> 01:04:42.440
Hello, hello.
01:04:44.433 --> 01:04:46.860
Hello, good morning.
01:04:46.860 --> 01:04:48.193
Good morning, go ahead.
01:04:54.237 --> 01:04:56.154
Well, you can go ahead.
01:04:57.410 --> 01:04:58.300
Can you hear me?
01:04:58.300 --> 01:05:01.190
Yes, we can now,
please go ahead.
01:05:01.190 --> 01:05:02.410
Good
morning Commissioners.
01:05:02.410 --> 01:05:04.060
My name is Suzanne Canning.
01:05:04.060 --> 01:05:05.537
I'm a resident of Marina Del Rey
01:05:05.537 --> 01:05:07.780
and a member of Sierra Club.
01:05:07.780 --> 01:05:11.030
I'm asking that you not
allow additional gas storage
01:05:11.030 --> 01:05:13.790
at either Aliso Canyon or Playa Del Rey,
01:05:13.790 --> 01:05:17.150
Southern California
Gas storage facilities
01:05:17.150 --> 01:05:18.650
and to shut them down.
01:05:18.650 --> 01:05:20.330
They're dangerous.
01:05:20.330 --> 01:05:24.180
The Ventura Compressor
needs to be shut down too.
01:05:24.180 --> 01:05:28.200
As you heard the County of
L.A. submitted opening comment
01:05:28.200 --> 01:05:30.530
to you last year about closing
01:05:30.530 --> 01:05:33.240
the Aliso Canyon Gas Storage Facility.
01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:36.160
I want to support those comments.
01:05:36.160 --> 01:05:38.640
The County authorized the CPUC
01:05:38.640 --> 01:05:42.850
to close down the Playa
Del Ray Gas Storage Facility.
01:05:42.850 --> 01:05:47.010
Why has the CPUC ignored those comments?
01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:52.010
Playa Del Ray needs to be
added to the CPUC's closure list.
01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:53.050
The study by the
01:05:53.050 --> 01:05:55.540
California Council on
Science and Technology
01:05:55.540 --> 01:05:57.900
dealt for the state legislature,
01:05:57.900 --> 01:06:01.117
singled out the Playa
Facility as having a quote,
01:06:01.117 --> 01:06:03.773
"Relatively higher risk
to health and safety
01:06:03.773 --> 01:06:07.492
than the other facilities
in California", unquote.
01:06:07.492 --> 01:06:10.933
They told the legislature
that the Playa Del Rey
01:06:10.933 --> 01:06:14.170
that Playa Del Ray is the
most dangerous gas storage
01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:16.030
operation in the State.
01:06:16.030 --> 01:06:20.380
And it provides less than
1% of the total gas storage
01:06:20.380 --> 01:06:22.020
in the State.
01:06:22.020 --> 01:06:23.987
The cities of Culver City,
01:06:23.987 --> 01:06:28.028
Santa Monica and Los
Angeles have all passed motions
01:06:28.028 --> 01:06:29.990
that are written to the Governor,
01:06:29.990 --> 01:06:31.696
asking him to prioritize
01:06:31.696 --> 01:06:35.896
shutting down the gas
storage facility at Playa Del Ray.
01:06:35.896 --> 01:06:38.542
Please as his appointees,
01:06:38.542 --> 01:06:42.600
please add this to your work
plan and assure the public
01:06:42.600 --> 01:06:45.853
you are working
diligently on this, thanks.
01:06:47.108 --> 01:06:50.713
Thank you, Operator
next caller please.
01:06:51.670 --> 01:06:53.740
The next
caller is Peter Warda
01:06:53.740 --> 01:06:55.380
from Valley Chamber of Commerce.
01:06:55.380 --> 01:06:56.823
Your line is now open.
01:06:58.478 --> 01:06:59.900
Good morning Commissioners.
01:06:59.900 --> 01:07:01.760
My name is Peter Warda and I represent
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:03.880
the Santa Clarita Valley
Chamber of Commerce
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:05.920
and our Latino Business Alliance.
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.600
We are the largest business
membership organization
01:07:08.600 --> 01:07:09.895
in the Santa Clarita Valley
01:07:09.895 --> 01:07:13.860
representing more than a
65,000 member workforce.
01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:16.300
I mean we're the leading
business advocacy organization
01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:19.750
in the third largest city in
the County of Los Angeles.
01:07:19.750 --> 01:07:21.180
I'm speaking today in regard to
01:07:21.180 --> 01:07:24.870
Southern California Edison
2021 General Rate Case
01:07:24.870 --> 01:07:28.200
and the importance fire
mitigation place for our region.
01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:29.033
As you know,
01:07:29.033 --> 01:07:32.870
the Santa Clarita Valley is
a high risk zone for wildfires.
01:07:32.870 --> 01:07:34.679
As someone who has
grown up in this city,
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:37.120
I've been the victim
of multiple evacuation
01:07:37.120 --> 01:07:39.470
because of the severity of wildfires
01:07:39.470 --> 01:07:41.520
our area experiences.
01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:42.690
I think we can all agree that
01:07:42.690 --> 01:07:45.830
you cannot quantify wildfire protection.
01:07:45.830 --> 01:07:48.040
While affordability is important,
01:07:48.040 --> 01:07:51.334
wildfire mitigation is
something we should prioritize.
01:07:51.334 --> 01:07:53.630
During the 2020 Bobcat Fire
01:07:53.630 --> 01:07:55.860
our region witnessed the
importance of public safety,
01:07:55.860 --> 01:07:57.050
power shutoff,
01:07:57.050 --> 01:07:59.610
the business community
suffered tremendously
01:07:59.610 --> 01:08:02.450
during this time because
resources were limited
01:08:02.450 --> 01:08:04.527
and Edison was doing the best they could
01:08:04.527 --> 01:08:08.660
to ensure our area was
protected, but at what cost?
01:08:08.660 --> 01:08:11.740
Our businesses suffered
because Edison was limited.
01:08:11.740 --> 01:08:13.230
Furthermore, the Santa Clarita Valley
01:08:13.230 --> 01:08:14.940
is proud of the rich Hispanic heritage
01:08:14.940 --> 01:08:16.912
and diverse businesses that make up
01:08:16.912 --> 01:08:19.520
SCV and the great place that it is.
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.440
Unfortunately, during the
PSPS business resources
01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:23.440
were even more limited
01:08:23.440 --> 01:08:26.460
and some businesses
were forced to shut down.
01:08:26.460 --> 01:08:28.100
With the Commissioner's
proposed changes,
01:08:28.100 --> 01:08:30.230
you are yet again limiting Edison
01:08:30.230 --> 01:08:32.100
to be a good neighbor
and mitigate fires,
01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:33.650
not just for the Santa Clarita Valley,
01:08:33.650 --> 01:08:35.670
but all high fires zones.
01:08:35.670 --> 01:08:37.320
With the approval of their proposal
01:08:37.320 --> 01:08:39.627
our monthly bills will only
change by approximately
01:08:39.627 --> 01:08:42.580
$2 a month, which has
no price tag compared
01:08:42.580 --> 01:08:43.910
to the amount of fire protection
01:08:43.910 --> 01:08:45.280
we will be receiving.
01:08:45.280 --> 01:08:47.550
Our question about
affordability should be based on
01:08:47.550 --> 01:08:50.060
protection and not necessarily on cost.
01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:52.850
We must continuously work
to mitigate wildfire exposures
01:08:52.850 --> 01:08:55.330
and protect all who
are in a high fire zone,
01:08:55.330 --> 01:08:57.860
including the residents
of the Santa Clarita Valley.
01:08:57.860 --> 01:08:59.820
Our community will
be insignificant danger
01:08:59.820 --> 01:09:02.849
if you do not support Edison's
original General Rate Case.
01:09:02.849 --> 01:09:03.682
Thank you.
01:09:05.690 --> 01:09:08.233
Thank you, next
caller please Operator.
01:09:09.222 --> 01:09:11.260
The next
caller is Carole Combs
01:09:11.260 --> 01:09:13.090
from Community of Three Rivers.
01:09:13.090 --> 01:09:15.300
Your line is now open.
01:09:15.300 --> 01:09:16.952
Thank you, good morning.
01:09:16.952 --> 01:09:21.952
As a generational long-term resident
01:09:22.380 --> 01:09:24.180
of the Three Rivers Community
01:09:24.180 --> 01:09:27.170
in the foothills of Tulare County
01:09:27.170 --> 01:09:28.960
and the founding member of the
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.680
Three Rivers Fire Safe Council Board
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:35.023
established in 2019,
01:09:35.023 --> 01:09:39.070
I am calling in to urge the CPUC
01:09:39.070 --> 01:09:42.346
to reverse the proposed decision
01:09:42.346 --> 01:09:45.704
that would limit Southern
California Edison's
01:09:45.704 --> 01:09:50.704
ability to fully implement
its wildfire mitigation program
01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:56.730
to install insulated cover
01:09:56.730 --> 01:10:01.730
to 6,250 miles of above ground wires
01:10:02.850 --> 01:10:07.850
in communities of
extreme high wildfire risk,
01:10:08.100 --> 01:10:10.321
such as Three Rivers.
01:10:10.321 --> 01:10:14.280
Instead I urged the CPUC
01:10:14.280 --> 01:10:15.891
to fully support
01:10:15.891 --> 01:10:18.640
approved Southern California Edison's
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.788
wildfire mitigation plan
01:10:20.788 --> 01:10:25.540
to install up to 6,250 miles
01:10:25.540 --> 01:10:28.200
of insulated conductor cover
01:10:28.200 --> 01:10:30.638
on its above ground wires
01:10:30.638 --> 01:10:35.169
peak beginning now through 2023.
01:10:35.169 --> 01:10:38.860
it is absolutely necessary
to do everything,
01:10:38.860 --> 01:10:43.860
to help protect extreme
high wildfire risk communities
01:10:45.820 --> 01:10:47.820
such as Three Rivers.
01:10:47.820 --> 01:10:51.833
Thank you for your consideration
of this urgent request.
01:10:53.080 --> 01:10:54.380
Thank you for your call.
01:10:54.380 --> 01:10:56.514
Operator next caller please.
01:10:56.514 --> 01:10:59.460
The next
caller is Robin McCollum.
01:10:59.460 --> 01:11:00.914
Your line is now open.
01:11:00.914 --> 01:11:02.530
Now?
01:11:02.530 --> 01:11:04.930
Yes hello, good
morning Commissioners.
01:11:05.990 --> 01:11:07.825
Good morning, we can hear you.
01:11:07.825 --> 01:11:08.658
Good.
01:11:08.658 --> 01:11:12.030
I'm appalled to learn this
morning that you have impeded
01:11:12.030 --> 01:11:14.730
Southern California Edison's efforts
01:11:14.730 --> 01:11:17.030
to harden their system in any way.
01:11:17.030 --> 01:11:20.370
Their proposal is well
founded in science,
01:11:20.370 --> 01:11:21.870
they studied it well,
01:11:21.870 --> 01:11:25.134
and they've shown good
progress implementing it.
01:11:25.134 --> 01:11:27.090
If the wires at the,
01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:31.800
at the start of the Dixie Fire
had been covered conductors
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:34.123
there would be no fire there today.
01:11:35.984 --> 01:11:39.230
This is an emergency
the condition of our forests
01:11:39.230 --> 01:11:44.160
and the potential for
PG&E's ancient, inadequate,
01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:47.799
unsafe, unmaintained bare wire system
01:11:47.799 --> 01:11:49.920
with explosive fuses
01:11:51.169 --> 01:11:54.950
to not be allowed to continue at all.
01:11:54.950 --> 01:11:57.571
And it should be a
priority of the Commission
01:11:57.571 --> 01:12:02.033
to push them forward to
cover those conductors.
01:12:02.033 --> 01:12:06.033
Patty Poppy's promised to
underground 10,000 miles,
01:12:06.033 --> 01:12:09.700
a small fraction of the 25,000 miles
01:12:09.700 --> 01:12:14.350
in their 25, fraction
of the 25,000 miles
01:12:14.350 --> 01:12:17.763
of their high fire threat areas.
01:12:20.654 --> 01:12:23.883
It is under undercut by her,
01:12:25.180 --> 01:12:29.343
her attempt to make
a hero of Joe Wilson,
01:12:30.190 --> 01:12:33.670
who throughout the
period of nine hours of delay
01:12:33.670 --> 01:12:34.980
did not call Cal Fire
01:12:34.980 --> 01:12:38.480
knowing that their
equipment had caused a fire.
01:12:38.480 --> 01:12:43.480
One can 90% sure know
that their fuses have blown,
01:12:43.870 --> 01:12:46.040
that there were sparks on the ground
01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:47.130
and in these conditions,
01:12:47.130 --> 01:12:49.240
nine hours is long
enough to start a fire
01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:50.533
that can't be stopped.
01:12:52.830 --> 01:12:54.700
So with these false promises,
01:12:54.700 --> 01:12:57.500
we're not very encouraged
to believe that PG&E
01:12:57.500 --> 01:12:59.453
has the will to go forward honestly
01:12:59.453 --> 01:13:02.060
and effectively as they have shown
01:13:02.060 --> 01:13:03.723
otherwise not to do so.
01:13:04.990 --> 01:13:09.370
Contrarily in Paradise
after the campfire,
01:13:09.370 --> 01:13:12.070
they demonstrated the
ability to stand up their system
01:13:12.070 --> 01:13:14.101
in a very short amount of time,
01:13:14.101 --> 01:13:17.220
much shorter than their
trees flyer technology
01:13:17.220 --> 01:13:19.380
that was going on at the same time.
01:13:19.380 --> 01:13:23.236
Covered conductors are the
appropriate way to go forward.
01:13:23.236 --> 01:13:28.090
System hardening should
not just be a PR point
01:13:29.780 --> 01:13:31.430
it should be dealt with humility.
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:34.210
Thank you.
01:13:34.210 --> 01:13:36.973
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:13:38.110 --> 01:13:40.280
The next
caller is Troy Corley
01:13:40.280 --> 01:13:43.140
from Ventura West
Side Clean Air Coalition,
01:13:43.140 --> 01:13:44.683
Your line is now open.
01:13:45.780 --> 01:13:47.320
Thank you so much.
01:13:47.320 --> 01:13:52.283
Sorry I'm pausing to make my statement.
01:13:53.270 --> 01:13:55.350
Yes, I'm a resident
in the Ventura County,
01:13:55.350 --> 01:13:59.100
but also I experienced the problems with
01:13:59.100 --> 01:14:04.100
the Aliso Canyon leak
on October of 2015,
01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:07.370
my daughter and I were
visiting the JOANN's,
01:14:07.370 --> 01:14:10.793
it's the one of the largest
craft and sewing places
01:14:10.793 --> 01:14:11.980
in the area.
01:14:11.980 --> 01:14:13.570
Even though we lived in Ventura county,
01:14:13.570 --> 01:14:15.783
we went all the way
down there to visit it.
01:14:15.783 --> 01:14:19.280
When we got out, we became sick.
01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:20.630
We felt like we were going to throw up.
01:14:20.630 --> 01:14:23.450
We went into JOANN's
and we got headaches
01:14:23.450 --> 01:14:24.790
and we're like, what's going on?
01:14:24.790 --> 01:14:26.150
We have to leave.
01:14:26.150 --> 01:14:29.180
I got into the car and I
had a major asthma attack.
01:14:29.180 --> 01:14:31.120
Luckily I had my rescue inhaler.
01:14:31.120 --> 01:14:33.350
We drove as far away as we could
01:14:33.350 --> 01:14:36.930
and a few days later I found
out what had happened.
01:14:36.930 --> 01:14:39.100
So that actually affected me directly
01:14:39.100 --> 01:14:41.192
and that's one of the
reasons why I'm also involved
01:14:41.192 --> 01:14:44.481
in participating with
Stop SoCalGas Coalition,
01:14:44.481 --> 01:14:48.933
and protesting the expansion
of the gas compressor
01:14:48.933 --> 01:14:51.920
on the west side of Ventura County.
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:56.120
So for that particular
project we needed,
01:14:56.120 --> 01:15:00.260
we don't need just a meeting,
you know, have show and tell,
01:15:00.260 --> 01:15:01.390
well, we're here,
01:15:01.390 --> 01:15:03.294
SoCalGas is here, CPUC is here,
01:15:03.294 --> 01:15:05.200
we've had a meeting, isn't that great?
01:15:05.200 --> 01:15:07.300
No, we need you to take action.
01:15:07.300 --> 01:15:09.830
We need you to say SoCalGas,
01:15:09.830 --> 01:15:13.330
we need an EIR and we
need alternative analysis
01:15:13.330 --> 01:15:14.710
of what's going on
01:15:14.710 --> 01:15:17.670
and no further work will go
forward until we have that.
01:15:17.670 --> 01:15:20.170
So put a stop work order on them now
01:15:20.170 --> 01:15:22.040
and protect the children who live,
01:15:22.040 --> 01:15:24.420
who go to school
right across the streets
01:15:24.420 --> 01:15:25.400
from the compressor.
01:15:25.400 --> 01:15:28.260
And I feel the same about
Playa Del Ray and Aliso.
01:15:28.260 --> 01:15:30.628
It's time to shut it all down.
01:15:30.628 --> 01:15:34.000
I can't believe we've just
lost another community
01:15:34.890 --> 01:15:37.380
to fire in this State.
01:15:37.380 --> 01:15:39.810
Albeit it probably had
nothing to do with gas,
01:15:39.810 --> 01:15:42.510
but that's exactly the problem is that
01:15:42.510 --> 01:15:44.730
gas can cause that very problem.
01:15:44.730 --> 01:15:47.990
Imagine if something
were ignited with that,
01:15:47.990 --> 01:15:50.510
with the earthquake that
the guy said had happened
01:15:50.510 --> 01:15:54.119
and the possibilities
of what will go on.
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:57.110
It'll be, you'll be
cleaning that up for years.
01:15:57.110 --> 01:15:59.910
You will lose an entire
community of Porter Ranch.
01:15:59.910 --> 01:16:02.583
So please take action
on these things, thank you.
01:16:05.320 --> 01:16:07.143
Operator the
next caller please.
01:16:08.791 --> 01:16:12.710
The next caller is
Robert Jan Roy van de Hoek,
01:16:12.710 --> 01:16:14.203
your line is now open.
01:16:21.250 --> 01:16:24.693
Robert Jan Roy van de
Hoek, your line is now open.
01:16:29.625 --> 01:16:33.300
Hello, my name is
Robert Jan Roy van de Hoek
01:16:33.300 --> 01:16:36.720
and I'm an environmental
scientist here in Los Angeles.
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.520
And I'm so happy that by
the way, can you hear me?
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:40.750
I just want to double-check.
01:16:40.750 --> 01:16:42.650
Yes, we can hear you fine.
01:16:42.650 --> 01:16:43.850
Okay, great.
01:16:43.850 --> 01:16:48.480
I am so pleased to learn if I'm correct
01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:50.320
that three of the five
of you Commissioners
01:16:50.320 --> 01:16:51.553
are women and that's important
01:16:51.553 --> 01:16:55.480
because we're getting
a feminine eco feminist,
01:16:55.480 --> 01:16:59.120
possibly philosophy
and ethics, more involved.
01:16:59.120 --> 01:17:01.470
The L.A. County Board of supervisors
01:17:01.470 --> 01:17:03.440
is five women currently
01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:06.629
and that's why I think
we have a strong letter
01:17:06.629 --> 01:17:09.083
from L.A. County to,
01:17:10.024 --> 01:17:12.980
for Aliso Canyon and Playa Del Ray both,
01:17:12.980 --> 01:17:16.145
to not do any kinds of activities
01:17:16.145 --> 01:17:19.360
that are going to lead to
like in a sense modernization
01:17:19.360 --> 01:17:22.063
and for those plants
to exist into the future.
01:17:22.980 --> 01:17:25.173
I also want to point
out that in two minutes,
01:17:25.173 --> 01:17:27.360
we can't really say that much,
01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:29.440
three or five minutes would be better
01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:31.203
and native Americans
should get more time
01:17:31.203 --> 01:17:34.540
because I think you've even
had training on sensitivity
01:17:34.540 --> 01:17:35.963
that they need to be heard.
01:17:37.360 --> 01:17:40.510
And I think that
01:17:41.730 --> 01:17:45.350
wildlife, I'm a wildlife
trained scientist
01:17:45.350 --> 01:17:47.880
and that the birds and
their respiratory systems
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:49.550
are different, their
lungs and their hearts.
01:17:49.550 --> 01:17:52.440
And they're more
sensitive to contaminants.
01:17:52.440 --> 01:17:54.020
And when we talk about the community,
01:17:54.020 --> 01:17:56.340
we are definitely talking
about humans, of course,
01:17:56.340 --> 01:17:59.070
but we need to include
animals in the community
01:17:59.070 --> 01:18:01.933
and even trees and plants
and lichens and mushrooms.
01:18:03.020 --> 01:18:03.990
The air pollution,
01:18:03.990 --> 01:18:07.210
the 200 types of chemicals
that are used in methane gas.
01:18:07.210 --> 01:18:09.470
I don't even want to call
it natural gas anymore
01:18:09.470 --> 01:18:10.303
or methane gas,
01:18:10.303 --> 01:18:13.700
I think we should just use
a new adjective, toxic gas.
01:18:13.700 --> 01:18:15.420
And we have environmental groups
01:18:15.420 --> 01:18:17.208
that are bought out by Edison
01:18:17.208 --> 01:18:20.280
and you know, the gas
is used to make electricity.
01:18:20.280 --> 01:18:21.840
It shouldn't be stored.
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:25.297
It should be like in San Diego
and Arizona and in Nevada
01:18:25.297 --> 01:18:28.389
where you buy the amount of
gas that you need at the time,
01:18:28.389 --> 01:18:31.575
regardless of the cost
and you don't pass the rate
01:18:31.575 --> 01:18:36.120
of their onto the
consumer, you pass the rate,
01:18:36.120 --> 01:18:39.590
you pass on to keep it
with the gas company.
01:18:39.590 --> 01:18:42.901
They have plenty of
profits, they can take a hit on.
01:18:42.901 --> 01:18:43.734
By the way
01:18:43.734 --> 01:18:46.500
I love your closing sound
rather than an alarm bell,
01:18:46.500 --> 01:18:49.540
that also shows a feminine
perspective in my opinion,
01:18:49.540 --> 01:18:54.520
mindful and participation
has been my key
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.790
and trying to follow you as
the chair on your statement.
01:18:56.790 --> 01:18:57.623
Thank you.
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.343
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
01:19:03.210 --> 01:19:05.220
The next
caller is David Klein.
01:19:05.220 --> 01:19:07.301
Your line is now open.
01:19:07.301 --> 01:19:09.930
Hi, my name's David Klein.
01:19:09.930 --> 01:19:12.000
I'm a professor at Cal State Northridge
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.560
where I study and teach Climate Science.
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.071
And I very much agree with the
President of the Commission's
01:19:19.071 --> 01:19:22.090
statements that started this meeting.
01:19:22.090 --> 01:19:24.440
And I hope that The
Commission engages in actions
01:19:24.440 --> 01:19:27.975
that actually support
those very fine words.
01:19:27.975 --> 01:19:29.401
In particular,
01:19:29.401 --> 01:19:33.873
I'd like to urge The Commission
to focus on shutting down
01:19:33.873 --> 01:19:37.810
the Aliso Canyon Gas Facility,
01:19:37.810 --> 01:19:40.711
the Playa Del Rey Gas Storage Facility
01:19:40.711 --> 01:19:43.559
and the Ventura Compressor Station
01:19:43.559 --> 01:19:46.420
and moving as rapidly as possible
01:19:46.420 --> 01:19:50.719
to getting off fossil fuels.
01:19:50.719 --> 01:19:54.818
We're rapidly approaching
planetary suicide,
01:19:54.818 --> 01:19:59.270
and we need to accelerate
in the opposite direction.
01:19:59.270 --> 01:20:00.103
Thank you.
01:20:02.440 --> 01:20:05.297
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:20:12.746 --> 01:20:15.627
Operator, do we have
a next caller please?
01:20:15.627 --> 01:20:17.980
The next
caller is Luis Cetina.
01:20:17.980 --> 01:20:19.373
Your line is now open.
01:20:21.790 --> 01:20:25.300
Thank you, Madam
President and Commissioners.
01:20:25.300 --> 01:20:26.695
My name is Luis Cetina.
01:20:26.695 --> 01:20:29.182
I had the good fortune of
being the Vice President
01:20:29.182 --> 01:20:31.700
of the Board of the
Cucamonga Valley Water District
01:20:31.700 --> 01:20:33.810
Chair of its Government
Affairs Committee.
01:20:33.810 --> 01:20:36.210
And I also have the good
pleasure of being a Board Member
01:20:36.210 --> 01:20:38.340
on the Chamber of Commerce
for Rancho Cucamonga
01:20:38.340 --> 01:20:41.297
and a Board Member
on Foothill Family Shelter,
01:20:41.297 --> 01:20:44.550
a transitional shelter
for families with children.
01:20:44.550 --> 01:20:46.050
I am providing comment today
01:20:46.050 --> 01:20:48.780
and we also provided this
comment in written form,
01:20:48.780 --> 01:20:53.080
urging you to reconsider the funding,
01:20:53.080 --> 01:20:56.170
replacing the funding level
in the General Rate Case
01:20:56.170 --> 01:20:58.620
submitted by Southern California Edison
01:20:59.540 --> 01:21:01.600
for its fire prevention effort
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:03.520
and I want to provide my comments and I,
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.690
I purposely provided you some of
01:21:05.690 --> 01:21:06.880
the involvements that I have
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.691
because I have an opportunity
to see perspective how
01:21:10.691 --> 01:21:14.020
Southern California
Edison's efforts would benefit
01:21:14.020 --> 01:21:16.882
not only utility from
a liability perspective,
01:21:16.882 --> 01:21:21.652
business to prevent business,
disruption and community,
01:21:21.652 --> 01:21:25.144
because there's a lot of people
who live in our communities
01:21:25.144 --> 01:21:27.980
identified as being part of
a disadvantaged community
01:21:27.980 --> 01:21:29.350
by the State of California
01:21:29.350 --> 01:21:31.600
who have a really difficult time
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.249
when there's PSPS incidents,
01:21:34.249 --> 01:21:36.760
who could lose all of the food
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:38.280
that they have in refrigerators.
01:21:38.280 --> 01:21:39.830
And I know Southern California Edison
01:21:39.830 --> 01:21:41.210
has a reimbursement program,
01:21:41.210 --> 01:21:43.520
but some of those folks
may not have access
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.851
to computers and broadband.
01:21:45.851 --> 01:21:48.830
The Cucamonga Valley
Water District Services,
01:21:48.830 --> 01:21:52.657
200,000 people in Western
San Bernardino County
01:21:52.657 --> 01:21:54.760
within the cities of Rancho Cucamonga
01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:58.170
and portions of
Fontana, Ontario, Upland,
01:21:58.170 --> 01:22:01.120
and also communities at
the base of the mountains.
01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:04.510
So utility reliability
and fire prevention
01:22:04.510 --> 01:22:06.240
for us is critical.
01:22:06.240 --> 01:22:08.200
We are fortunate to have
a series of generators
01:22:08.200 --> 01:22:09.640
at an additional cost
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:12.360
in the event that we
have a PSPS incidents
01:22:12.360 --> 01:22:14.190
and we've had to use them on occasion,
01:22:14.190 --> 01:22:17.220
but keep in mind that those
generators are highly regulated
01:22:17.220 --> 01:22:19.280
by the Air Quality Management District
01:22:19.280 --> 01:22:22.320
and that's not the intended
way to operate a system.
01:22:22.320 --> 01:22:25.300
We desperately need
electrical utility reliability,
01:22:25.300 --> 01:22:26.970
like the general public needs,
01:22:26.970 --> 01:22:28.890
water supply reliability specifically
01:22:28.890 --> 01:22:31.500
during the hot summer months.
01:22:31.500 --> 01:22:33.562
So I would ask that you reconsider
01:22:33.562 --> 01:22:35.940
and support the funding requests
01:22:35.940 --> 01:22:39.360
of Southern California
in its original entirety
01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:42.360
so that they can conduct their
best work, thank you so much.
01:22:44.081 --> 01:22:47.060
Operator the
next caller please.
01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:49.190
The next
color is Janice Nardella.
01:22:49.190 --> 01:22:50.683
Your line is now open.
01:22:52.220 --> 01:22:53.763
Hi, can you hear me?
01:22:55.120 --> 01:22:56.530
Yes, we can hear
you, please go ahead.
01:22:56.530 --> 01:22:59.160
Yes, we can hear you
fine, please go ahead.
01:22:59.160 --> 01:22:59.993
Thank you.
01:22:59.993 --> 01:23:02.360
Good morning, President
and Commissioners.
01:23:02.360 --> 01:23:03.647
My name is Janice Nardella
01:23:03.647 --> 01:23:05.470
and my family lives in Porter Ranch
01:23:05.470 --> 01:23:09.440
next to the SoCalGas
Aliso Canyon Gas Facility.
01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:10.920
We still suffer daily from
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:12.740
physical and mental health effects
01:23:12.740 --> 01:23:16.610
from the SoCalGas,
Aliso canyon gas blow out.
01:23:16.610 --> 01:23:18.467
We still have to keep our
windows and doors closed
01:23:18.467 --> 01:23:21.910
because of the daily
leaks at the gas facility.
01:23:21.910 --> 01:23:23.700
When gas is injected or withdrawn,
01:23:23.700 --> 01:23:25.820
there is a lot of guests
released into the air
01:23:25.820 --> 01:23:27.040
right next to our house
01:23:27.040 --> 01:23:29.120
and then it spreads
throughout the valley.
01:23:29.120 --> 01:23:31.969
My family experienced
very bad health problems
01:23:31.969 --> 01:23:33.690
due to this facility,
01:23:33.690 --> 01:23:35.210
including my husband and my son
01:23:35.210 --> 01:23:37.840
when he was just seven years old.
01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:40.560
Many neighbors and local
elementary school teachers have
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:43.105
gotten cancer and some
have died due to this gas
01:23:43.105 --> 01:23:46.470
being released that we
are still being exposed to.
01:23:46.470 --> 01:23:49.420
This facility was originally
built to hold oil not gas,
01:23:49.420 --> 01:23:50.830
and it leaks daily.
01:23:50.830 --> 01:23:54.370
Any increase in storage
limits at this dangerous facility
01:23:54.370 --> 01:23:58.460
will expose CPUC's failure
to shut down the facility.
01:23:58.460 --> 01:24:02.070
I urge CPUC to reject the
request by oil companies
01:24:02.070 --> 01:24:05.830
and SoCalGas to increase
storage limits at Aliso Canyon.
01:24:05.830 --> 01:24:07.327
It's time California prioritizes
01:24:07.327 --> 01:24:10.965
public health and safety
over fossil fuel profits.
01:24:10.965 --> 01:24:14.920
L.A. County, Los
Angeles, LAUSD and others
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:16.370
are on record in support of
01:24:16.370 --> 01:24:18.870
an expedited shut down of Aliso Canyon.
01:24:18.870 --> 01:24:22.320
Expanding gas storage
limits at this time is wrong
01:24:22.320 --> 01:24:23.600
and sends a horrible message
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:25.890
that community health is less important
01:24:25.890 --> 01:24:27.547
than SoCalGas wealth.
01:24:27.547 --> 01:24:31.086
In November, 2020
CPUC rejected SoCalGas's
01:24:31.086 --> 01:24:34.000
application for increased storage limits
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.423
at Aliso Canyon, and nothing
has changed to warrant that
01:24:37.423 --> 01:24:39.870
SoCalGas gets its way this time.
01:24:39.870 --> 01:24:42.299
The facility is operated for two years
01:24:42.299 --> 01:24:45.060
at the lower capacity successfully
01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:47.319
and does not need storage increased.
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:50.962
The County Board of
Supervisors and L.A. City Council
01:24:50.962 --> 01:24:54.030
both support the effort
to stop the increase
01:24:54.030 --> 01:24:55.720
of storage at Aliso canyon.
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:59.330
Please do not increase the
gas storage at Aliso Canyon
01:24:59.330 --> 01:25:01.110
and save our health, please.
01:25:01.110 --> 01:25:01.943
Thank you.
01:25:03.990 --> 01:25:05.102
Thank you.
01:25:05.102 --> 01:25:07.680
Operator the next caller please.
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:10.060
The next
caller is Asaad Alnajjar.
01:25:10.060 --> 01:25:11.470
Your line is now open.
01:25:17.132 --> 01:25:19.965
Asaad Alnajjar, your line is open.
01:25:24.010 --> 01:25:24.843
Hello?
01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:30.630
Hello we can hear
you, please go ahead.
01:25:30.630 --> 01:25:33.087
Yes hi, this
is Asaad Alnajjar.
01:25:33.087 --> 01:25:34.800
I'm the former Vice President of the
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:36.990
Porter Ranch Neighborhoods Council.
01:25:36.990 --> 01:25:38.820
And for the past six years,
01:25:38.820 --> 01:25:42.100
we've been actively
trying to get a resolution
01:25:42.100 --> 01:25:44.301
for the Alicia Canyon Gas Facility
01:25:44.301 --> 01:25:46.940
to restrict the operations immediately
01:25:46.940 --> 01:25:49.360
and eventually to close it permanently.
01:25:49.360 --> 01:25:54.360
And I'm here seeking your assistance
01:25:54.540 --> 01:25:56.610
to restrict all operations
01:25:56.610 --> 01:26:00.340
until we find solution
for this dangerous risk.
01:26:00.340 --> 01:26:03.663
Also, I'm asking you to,
for immediate deployment
01:26:03.663 --> 01:26:07.450
of test pilots to our
solar and wind turbine
01:26:07.450 --> 01:26:09.980
to serve Porter Ranch till we reach
01:26:09.980 --> 01:26:12.070
a resolution on Aliso Kenyon.
01:26:12.070 --> 01:26:13.960
And thank you very
much for all what you do
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:15.430
for our community.
01:26:15.430 --> 01:26:16.263
Thank you.
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:19.810
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:26:20.959 --> 01:26:22.480
The next
caller is Gail Westrate.
01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:23.793
Your line is now open.
01:26:24.819 --> 01:26:26.320
Thank you, good morning.
01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:30.250
I'm Gail Westrate, I
live in East Pasadena.
01:26:30.250 --> 01:26:33.210
I've lived in this
house for over 45 years
01:26:33.210 --> 01:26:35.643
and my grandfather lived here before me.
01:26:35.643 --> 01:26:38.023
This neighborhood is not affluent,
01:26:38.023 --> 01:26:42.290
but it is actually full of
interesting, valuable people.
01:26:42.290 --> 01:26:44.980
My own background is art and biology.
01:26:44.980 --> 01:26:47.890
I hold a lifetime teaching
credential in VOAG,
01:26:47.890 --> 01:26:51.914
that's Vocational Agriculture
with a specialty in ethology,
01:26:51.914 --> 01:26:54.044
that's animal behavior.
01:26:54.044 --> 01:26:57.810
Based on that I can tell
you the rule of nature,
01:26:57.810 --> 01:27:01.944
a good parasite does
not destroy its host.
01:27:01.944 --> 01:27:05.070
You are clever,
educated business people,
01:27:05.070 --> 01:27:08.510
you know that good
business does not destroy
01:27:08.510 --> 01:27:11.125
or even weaken its customer base.
01:27:11.125 --> 01:27:13.390
You know that when profit seeking
01:27:13.390 --> 01:27:15.347
gets too far out of balance,
01:27:15.347 --> 01:27:16.729
the small people,
01:27:16.729 --> 01:27:19.640
the essential workers in any society
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.410
become insecure, no
matter how hard they work.
01:27:23.410 --> 01:27:26.690
You wind up with a series
of foundational collapses.
01:27:26.690 --> 01:27:28.403
We're witnessing that now.
01:27:30.020 --> 01:27:33.340
Your recent choice or
someone's recent choice,
01:27:33.340 --> 01:27:35.620
whether conscious or confused,
01:27:35.620 --> 01:27:38.650
allowed an extra windfall of profit
01:27:38.650 --> 01:27:40.490
on top of the carefully planned
01:27:40.490 --> 01:27:43.170
annual fee structure profits
01:27:43.170 --> 01:27:46.438
and that was screamingly out of balance,
01:27:46.438 --> 01:27:50.410
in the attempted takeover
01:27:50.410 --> 01:27:52.560
or distribution of power
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.523
in the East Pasadena Water Company.
01:27:56.023 --> 01:27:58.940
It's said (indistinct) cheat
01:27:58.940 --> 01:28:00.623
and it becomes normal.
01:28:01.550 --> 01:28:04.993
But it's not clever,
it destroys the host.
01:28:04.993 --> 01:28:09.380
So now on this, this is all
just the Kabuki Theater here.
01:28:09.380 --> 01:28:11.610
You must support the original intent
01:28:11.610 --> 01:28:15.084
of the safety measures to
encourage a healthy balance
01:28:15.084 --> 01:28:18.010
between ordinary workers
01:28:18.010 --> 01:28:22.000
and profit for the few
who deservedly soar high,
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:27.000
but with no treaty, play
fair, control, Cal-Am.
01:28:28.250 --> 01:28:29.083
Thank you.
01:28:31.210 --> 01:28:33.563
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
01:28:34.550 --> 01:28:36.930
The next
caller is Dominick Galson,
01:28:36.930 --> 01:28:38.213
your line is now open.
01:28:39.918 --> 01:28:42.860
Good morning,
my name is Dominic Galson
01:28:42.860 --> 01:28:45.240
and I live in Los Angeles.
01:28:45.240 --> 01:28:49.440
Please shut down the
Aliso Gas Storage Facility
01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:50.701
in Los Angeles.
01:28:50.701 --> 01:28:54.860
This facility is causing
an ongoing problem.
01:28:54.860 --> 01:28:59.430
In 2016, the gas company
itself reported to State Regulators
01:28:59.430 --> 01:29:01.740
that there are an
average of two leaks a day
01:29:01.740 --> 01:29:03.880
at Aliso Canyon.
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:05.440
The Aliso Canyon Facility
01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:08.170
causes significant health problems.
01:29:08.170 --> 01:29:10.700
The South Coast Air
Management Quality Manager,
01:29:10.700 --> 01:29:13.056
the South Coast Air
Quality Management District
01:29:13.056 --> 01:29:14.842
says that this facility emits
01:29:14.842 --> 01:29:17.771
numerous types of hazardous chemicals.
01:29:17.771 --> 01:29:22.771
63% of nearby residents
reported health problems
01:29:23.160 --> 01:29:26.181
to the Los Angeles County
Public Health Department.
01:29:26.181 --> 01:29:30.079
Dr. Jeffrey Nordella from the
nearby community has found
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:32.631
large concentrations of several
01:29:32.631 --> 01:29:37.450
hazardous materials in
residents hair, blood and urine.
01:29:37.450 --> 01:29:40.230
Nearby residents
suffered from foul orders,
01:29:40.230 --> 01:29:43.000
which this facility causes.
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.660
This facility is contributing
to it's widespread
01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:49.043
environmental harm, including drought,
01:29:49.043 --> 01:29:52.540
massive wildfires in heat waves.
01:29:52.540 --> 01:29:54.430
This facility is not needed in order
01:29:54.430 --> 01:29:56.460
to produce enough energy.
01:29:56.460 --> 01:29:59.425
For two years since the
initial blow out occurred
01:29:59.425 --> 01:30:02.970
and the gas company
stopped using this facility,
01:30:02.970 --> 01:30:06.080
Southern California did
not have any gas shortages
01:30:06.080 --> 01:30:08.164
or other energy shortages.
01:30:08.164 --> 01:30:11.180
My City Council, my school district,
01:30:11.180 --> 01:30:13.460
my county government have all urged you
01:30:13.460 --> 01:30:15.602
to shut this facility down.
01:30:15.602 --> 01:30:18.258
Governor Newsom has
directed that this facility
01:30:18.258 --> 01:30:20.220
be shut down.
01:30:20.220 --> 01:30:22.852
Please also shut down
the gas storage facilities
01:30:22.852 --> 01:30:26.552
in Los Angeles's Playa Del Rey area
01:30:26.552 --> 01:30:31.396
and the gas concentration
facility in Ventura County.
01:30:31.396 --> 01:30:34.616
These facilities may
cause similar problems.
01:30:34.616 --> 01:30:37.410
We cannot depend
on this type of facility
01:30:37.410 --> 01:30:39.040
when something goes wrong,
01:30:39.040 --> 01:30:41.230
we need resilient sources of energy,
01:30:41.230 --> 01:30:42.920
such as solar power.
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:45.053
We also need energy efficiency.
01:30:46.060 --> 01:30:46.893
Thank you.
01:30:49.150 --> 01:30:52.504
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
01:30:52.504 --> 01:30:54.360
The next
caller is Pete Wywoody,
01:30:54.360 --> 01:30:56.013
your line is now open.
01:30:58.023 --> 01:31:00.590
Good morning Commissioners.
01:31:00.590 --> 01:31:02.050
My name is Pete Wywoody.
01:31:02.050 --> 01:31:05.140
I'm at the Reclaim Our
Power! Utility Justice Campaign.
01:31:05.140 --> 01:31:09.180
We represent over 75
organizations of fire survivors,
01:31:09.180 --> 01:31:10.250
people with disabilities,
01:31:10.250 --> 01:31:13.530
black and indigenous people
of color across California
01:31:13.530 --> 01:31:16.302
who have been demanding for years now,
01:31:16.302 --> 01:31:19.843
a transition away from PG&E
and towards a safe, reliable,
01:31:19.843 --> 01:31:22.250
and resilient energy system.
01:31:22.250 --> 01:31:24.810
First we want to say the
public comment system here
01:31:24.810 --> 01:31:26.090
has been a consistent failure
01:31:26.090 --> 01:31:28.440
and a number of our members
have been trapped outside
01:31:28.440 --> 01:31:29.830
and so I would encourage you all
01:31:29.830 --> 01:31:32.370
to change that as we
have called for before.
01:31:32.370 --> 01:31:35.010
But I also want to
point to President Batjer
01:31:35.010 --> 01:31:37.790
you opened up about
the hearts going out,
01:31:37.790 --> 01:31:39.900
our hearts going out to
the people of Greenville
01:31:39.900 --> 01:31:42.999
and it sounds very familiar to me.
01:31:42.999 --> 01:31:46.920
(indistinct) of the gun control world,
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:51.130
at Baxter, a violent shooting
that people could predict
01:31:51.130 --> 01:31:54.260
and the infrastructure
was in place to facilitate
01:31:54.260 --> 01:31:56.800
politicians talking about
thoughts and prayers,
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:58.720
thoughts and prayers to the victim.
01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:03.410
Well, I, we want more
than thoughts and prayers.
01:32:03.410 --> 01:32:07.530
We want actual action and
you are empowered to do so.
01:32:07.530 --> 01:32:10.700
This Commission has talked,
01:32:10.700 --> 01:32:12.781
voted a year ago.
01:32:12.781 --> 01:32:15.940
(indistinct) going to
hold PG&E accountable,
01:32:15.940 --> 01:32:20.453
this Commission has
the ability to not just say,
01:32:20.453 --> 01:32:22.930
"We're thinking about
you as we make decisions,
01:32:22.930 --> 01:32:25.180
but actually to act."
01:32:25.180 --> 01:32:29.470
So we were launching a
Utility Desert Campaign
01:32:29.470 --> 01:32:32.020
demanding that you move PG&E
01:32:32.020 --> 01:32:36.190
into step four of the
accountability process
01:32:36.190 --> 01:32:37.940
that's gross negligence,
01:32:37.940 --> 01:32:40.816
systemic disregard for human life.
01:32:40.816 --> 01:32:43.225
We can't have just thoughts and prayers
01:32:43.225 --> 01:32:45.906
for the people of the town of Paradise,
01:32:45.906 --> 01:32:48.426
for the people of the
town of Greenville today,
01:32:48.426 --> 01:32:51.250
for the people who are
in caught in Santa Rosa
01:32:51.250 --> 01:32:52.673
for the victims of the Zogg Fire,
01:32:52.673 --> 01:32:55.170
for the victims of the Kincade fire,
01:32:55.170 --> 01:32:56.780
we could go on.
01:32:56.780 --> 01:33:00.299
There's no such thing
(indistinct) under control.
01:33:00.299 --> 01:33:03.350
We need, you all take
your responsibility seriously
01:33:03.350 --> 01:33:06.170
and step forward to take them over,
01:33:06.170 --> 01:33:09.890
use assets that you
designed and do it now.
01:33:09.890 --> 01:33:12.660
I also want to lift up that we stand up
01:33:12.660 --> 01:33:13.810
with people of Aliso getting you
01:33:13.810 --> 01:33:16.860
to call to shut down SoCalGas.
01:33:16.860 --> 01:33:18.470
A dirty energy system can never
01:33:18.470 --> 01:33:19.913
serve the people of the community
01:33:19.913 --> 01:33:22.835
when you transition away
from wall street energy
01:33:22.835 --> 01:33:24.970
and into the hands of the community now.
01:33:24.970 --> 01:33:26.170
Thank you for your time.
01:33:27.450 --> 01:33:30.410
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:33:30.410 --> 01:33:32.490
The next
caller is Anna Thompson,
01:33:32.490 --> 01:33:34.023
your line is now open.
01:33:36.120 --> 01:33:37.860
Can you hear me okay?
01:33:37.860 --> 01:33:38.693
Yes, we can,
01:33:38.693 --> 01:33:40.130
please go ahead.
Thank you.
01:33:40.130 --> 01:33:43.010
Thank you, Anna Thompson Carmel.
01:33:43.010 --> 01:33:47.140
Please pull item five
from the Consent Agenda
01:33:47.140 --> 01:33:51.330
and hold that the proposed
decision for further review.
01:33:51.330 --> 01:33:53.750
The Public advocates Office
01:33:53.750 --> 01:33:56.570
as fully explained why
the gain-on-sale rules
01:33:56.570 --> 01:33:59.668
must be applied to the
East Pasadena sale.
01:33:59.668 --> 01:34:01.160
In fact,
01:34:01.160 --> 01:34:03.920
the CPUC gain-on-sale rules were created
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:08.409
to protect the payers from
exactly this kind of situation.
01:34:08.409 --> 01:34:11.450
East Pasadena's Attorney's argument
01:34:11.450 --> 01:34:14.810
that the owners should
receive the entire $30 million
01:34:14.810 --> 01:34:18.150
in profit because they
ought to invest the dividends
01:34:18.150 --> 01:34:21.570
back into the utility, is incorrect.
01:34:21.570 --> 01:34:23.441
The owner has already benefited
01:34:23.441 --> 01:34:27.230
from the 10% annual rate of return.
01:34:27.230 --> 01:34:29.440
A portion of the $30 million profit
01:34:29.440 --> 01:34:32.030
on East Pasadena Water Assets,
01:34:32.030 --> 01:34:34.420
should be allocated to rate payers
01:34:34.420 --> 01:34:37.510
to offset the cost of the acquisition.
01:34:37.510 --> 01:34:40.290
Gain-on-sale rules apply to all
01:34:40.290 --> 01:34:42.815
used and useful assets.
01:34:42.815 --> 01:34:45.007
Current argument that The Commission
01:34:45.007 --> 01:34:47.610
has never applied
it's gain-on-sale rules
01:34:47.610 --> 01:34:51.840
to Cal-Am's previous
acquisitions may be true,
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:56.183
but some of those decisions
may have been wrongly decided.
01:34:56.183 --> 01:34:58.810
The Commission should make sure
01:34:58.810 --> 01:35:02.560
this decision is correctly decided.
01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:05.450
In knowing the
gain-on-sale rules will set
01:35:05.450 --> 01:35:08.749
a terrible precedent for
the rate payer funding
01:35:08.749 --> 01:35:11.696
of monopoly profiteering.
01:35:11.696 --> 01:35:14.250
The Monterey Peninsula rate payers
01:35:14.250 --> 01:35:17.630
are paying the highest
water charges inn the nation
01:35:17.630 --> 01:35:21.236
and would receive zero
benefit from this sale.
01:35:21.236 --> 01:35:25.480
Please hold the proposed
decision for further review
01:35:25.480 --> 01:35:28.810
and revise it, thank you very much.
01:35:28.810 --> 01:35:29.643
Bye.
01:35:31.250 --> 01:35:33.796
Operator the
next caller please.
01:35:33.796 --> 01:35:35.880
The next
caller is Frank Montes,
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:37.193
your line is now open.
01:35:39.580 --> 01:35:40.617
Good morning
President Batjer
01:35:40.617 --> 01:35:42.452
and members of The Commission.
01:35:42.452 --> 01:35:44.030
My name is Frank Montes,
01:35:44.030 --> 01:35:46.030
I am past chairman of the
01:35:46.030 --> 01:35:48.150
California Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
01:35:48.150 --> 01:35:50.137
which represents the interest of over
01:35:50.137 --> 01:35:55.137
850,000 Hispanic businesses
in the State of California.
01:35:55.230 --> 01:35:57.630
But more importantly, I am co-owner of
01:35:57.630 --> 01:35:59.000
Inland Body & Paint Center,
01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:02.733
a small business located
here in the Inland Empire.
01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:06.751
As someone who has
lost a father in a fire
01:36:06.751 --> 01:36:10.210
and as a burn survivor myself,
01:36:10.210 --> 01:36:14.720
I am concerned of the proposed 55% cut
01:36:15.690 --> 01:36:18.463
to Edison's Conductor Program.
01:36:20.129 --> 01:36:23.620
The reason is many,
01:36:23.620 --> 01:36:27.873
but more importantly is
the danger to human lives.
01:36:29.050 --> 01:36:33.163
There is no amount of money
that can replace a human life.
01:36:33.163 --> 01:36:37.520
So these cuts are not only reckless,
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:39.427
but dangerous.
01:36:39.427 --> 01:36:42.760
Also the negative impact
to our small businesses,
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.673
with the threat of rolling blackouts,
01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.247
add more issues,
01:36:51.994 --> 01:36:56.994
more loss of funds for
our small businesses.
01:36:57.512 --> 01:36:59.730
When there's a threat of a blackout,
01:36:59.730 --> 01:37:01.710
most businesses just shut down
01:37:01.710 --> 01:37:03.830
because they can't start a project
01:37:03.830 --> 01:37:07.330
or continue working with that threat.
01:37:07.330 --> 01:37:09.460
Also, as I sit here in my office,
01:37:09.460 --> 01:37:14.460
I can look out the window
and see a wildfire right now,
01:37:14.460 --> 01:37:17.176
burning in Mount Baldy.
01:37:17.176 --> 01:37:22.176
This will continue with
this proposed cuts of 55%.
01:37:23.210 --> 01:37:25.914
I urge The Commission to rethink that
01:37:25.914 --> 01:37:30.313
and save human lives
along with property.
01:37:31.514 --> 01:37:36.150
This has been a terrible, terrible
01:37:38.070 --> 01:37:39.880
thing that's been happening in our State
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:41.990
with these wildfires.
01:37:41.990 --> 01:37:45.737
So please, as a burn survivor myself,
01:37:45.737 --> 01:37:50.500
I urge you to reconsider that 55% cut.
01:37:50.500 --> 01:37:53.147
I would hate to be on one of these calls
01:37:53.147 --> 01:37:55.363
in a month or a year from now.
01:37:57.647 --> 01:37:58.990
I'm talking about this
01:37:58.990 --> 01:38:03.450
because The Commission acted improperly.
01:38:03.450 --> 01:38:04.550
So please again,
01:38:04.550 --> 01:38:06.091
on behalf of our small businesses
01:38:06.091 --> 01:38:09.370
and on behalf of the families
01:38:09.370 --> 01:38:11.170
that live in the State of California,
01:38:11.170 --> 01:38:13.051
please reconsider those cuts.
01:38:13.051 --> 01:38:14.493
Thank you so much.
01:38:17.220 --> 01:38:18.370
Thank you.
01:38:18.370 --> 01:38:20.600
Operator I'd like to
remind all the callers
01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:21.930
that they need to adhere
01:38:21.930 --> 01:38:23.723
to our two minute timeframe.
01:38:25.260 --> 01:38:27.830
We have many, many
callers on the line today,
01:38:27.830 --> 01:38:30.120
and many, many people in the queue.
01:38:30.120 --> 01:38:32.450
So I want people to be
mindful and courteous
01:38:32.450 --> 01:38:34.340
of other people who want to speak.
01:38:34.340 --> 01:38:37.360
When you hear the bell, your time is up.
01:38:37.360 --> 01:38:38.210
Thank you.
01:38:38.210 --> 01:38:41.010
Operator you can bring
on the next caller please.
01:38:41.010 --> 01:38:43.250
The next
caller is Alex Massey,
01:38:43.250 --> 01:38:44.623
your line is now open.
01:38:46.670 --> 01:38:48.190
Hello, I hope
you can hear me.
01:38:48.190 --> 01:38:49.860
I am Alex Massey,
01:38:49.860 --> 01:38:53.640
I'm 18 years old and I
am from Ventura County.
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:56.180
I'm calling in support
of the letter to the
01:38:56.180 --> 01:38:58.650
Venturas SoCalGas Compressor Station,
01:38:58.650 --> 01:39:01.340
and for bold climate action.
01:39:01.340 --> 01:39:05.430
It is time that we prioritize
people over profits,
01:39:05.430 --> 01:39:08.360
especially the residents of
the West Side Community
01:39:08.360 --> 01:39:10.550
who do not want this compressor station
01:39:10.550 --> 01:39:12.620
near their children and where they live.
01:39:12.620 --> 01:39:15.630
I demand that you use
your power as the CPUC
01:39:15.630 --> 01:39:17.630
to stop SoCalGas and do more
01:39:17.630 --> 01:39:19.110
than just send a letter.
01:39:19.110 --> 01:39:21.250
On a global scale we
have seen the effects
01:39:21.250 --> 01:39:23.990
of climate crisis in
all parts of the world,
01:39:23.990 --> 01:39:25.670
from floods in Europe and Asia
01:39:25.670 --> 01:39:27.640
to intense heat waves in California.
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:29.520
The climate crisis is here to stay
01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:31.400
if we do not do anything.
01:39:31.400 --> 01:39:34.480
There is extensive scientific
proof that climate change
01:39:34.480 --> 01:39:36.189
is catalyzed by fossil fuels,
01:39:36.189 --> 01:39:39.260
such as the SoCalGas Compressor Station.
01:39:39.260 --> 01:39:41.890
Mitigating wildfires is not enough.
01:39:41.890 --> 01:39:45.100
We must prevent wildfires
by rapidly transitioning
01:39:45.100 --> 01:39:49.183
to clean energy and dropping
fossil fuels immediately.
01:39:49.183 --> 01:39:51.930
Stopping SoCalGas's
reign over California,
01:39:51.930 --> 01:39:54.610
while we have alternative
clean energy resources
01:39:54.610 --> 01:39:55.770
is the least we can do
01:39:55.770 --> 01:39:57.770
for the health of the Westside Community
01:39:57.770 --> 01:40:00.340
and for the future of my generation.
01:40:00.340 --> 01:40:03.830
We cannot wait 24 years
until 2045 to take action
01:40:03.830 --> 01:40:05.540
and rely on measly promises
01:40:05.540 --> 01:40:07.940
from Governor Newsom or This Commission.
01:40:07.940 --> 01:40:09.930
You personally may
not feel the worst effects
01:40:09.930 --> 01:40:13.460
of the climate crisis, but
as an 18 year old, I will.
01:40:13.460 --> 01:40:16.460
We must act now for a
rapid and fair transition
01:40:16.460 --> 01:40:17.990
to clean energy.
01:40:17.990 --> 01:40:19.890
As a Youth climate
leader in Ventura County,
01:40:19.890 --> 01:40:22.201
I demand that the CPUC use its power
01:40:22.201 --> 01:40:25.590
to hold SoCalGas
accountable for wildfires
01:40:25.590 --> 01:40:27.220
and taking part in climate change
01:40:27.220 --> 01:40:29.700
and for the CPUC
to uplift the transition
01:40:29.700 --> 01:40:31.280
to clean energy now.
01:40:31.280 --> 01:40:32.480
Thank you for your time.
01:40:35.070 --> 01:40:38.030
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:40:38.030 --> 01:40:40.730
The next
caller is Alexandra Austin,
01:40:40.730 --> 01:40:42.283
your line is now open.
01:40:43.890 --> 01:40:46.215
Hello, my
name is Alex Austin
01:40:46.215 --> 01:40:50.290
and I'm a former resident of
Porter Ranch for over 20 years.
01:40:50.290 --> 01:40:51.630
I recently moved away,
01:40:51.630 --> 01:40:54.080
specifically because of
the negative health impact
01:40:54.080 --> 01:40:56.475
of Aliso Canyon.
01:40:56.475 --> 01:41:00.100
The historical chemical
and heavy metal exposure
01:41:00.100 --> 01:41:01.294
that our community has faced
01:41:01.294 --> 01:41:05.314
from this facility has
resulted not only in physical,
01:41:05.314 --> 01:41:09.450
but also emotional and
psychological trauma
01:41:09.450 --> 01:41:11.096
on these community members
01:41:11.096 --> 01:41:14.333
and increasing storage
at the same facility
01:41:14.333 --> 01:41:17.620
only exacerbates that trauma.
01:41:17.620 --> 01:41:19.940
It's a slap in the face
to this community
01:41:19.940 --> 01:41:22.018
and neighboring communities.
01:41:22.018 --> 01:41:25.440
We've been seeing as was
mentioned just a minute ago
01:41:25.440 --> 01:41:27.478
the effects of climate change
01:41:27.478 --> 01:41:32.067
and the effects of fossil
fuels on our environment,
01:41:32.067 --> 01:41:36.317
From historical flooding,
heat waves and fires.
01:41:36.317 --> 01:41:39.449
And decisions like
this to increase storage
01:41:39.449 --> 01:41:43.090
only contribute to these disasters.
01:41:43.090 --> 01:41:46.123
It slows progress in
turning toward clean energy.
01:41:46.123 --> 01:41:48.975
If anything, the Aliso
Canyon Storage Facility
01:41:48.975 --> 01:41:51.530
should be one of the first priorities
01:41:51.530 --> 01:41:53.550
of the Clean Energy Transition
01:41:53.550 --> 01:41:57.313
because of its record
breaking disaster, thank you.
01:41:59.330 --> 01:42:01.973
Thank you, Operator
next caller please.
01:42:03.080 --> 01:42:05.030
The next
caller is Liz Campo,
01:42:05.030 --> 01:42:06.663
your line is now open.
01:42:07.955 --> 01:42:09.099
Madam Chair,
01:42:09.099 --> 01:42:12.560
I appreciate your
opening statement today,
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:16.110
including the need of this
Public Utility Commission
01:42:16.110 --> 01:42:19.910
to quote, "Expedite specific actions
01:42:19.910 --> 01:42:23.630
to achieve the goals of the
Governor's proclamations"
01:42:23.630 --> 01:42:25.210
end quote.
01:42:25.210 --> 01:42:27.327
But one important action you must take
01:42:27.327 --> 01:42:29.620
to achieve this goal
01:42:29.620 --> 01:42:32.944
is to shut down the
SoCalGas, Aliso Canyon
01:42:32.944 --> 01:42:37.160
and Playa Del Rey Storage Facilities.
01:42:37.160 --> 01:42:41.210
I also appreciate you
sharing your outgoing memo
01:42:41.210 --> 01:42:46.210
requiring Mr. Drury of SoCalGas
to hold another meeting.
01:42:47.010 --> 01:42:49.799
But we of the Clean
Air Coalition are far past
01:42:49.799 --> 01:42:52.170
SoCalGas's lies.
01:42:52.170 --> 01:42:54.190
Another public meeting with them
01:42:54.190 --> 01:42:57.453
without the completion of an
environmental impact report
01:42:57.453 --> 01:42:59.253
is not acceptable.
01:43:00.810 --> 01:43:05.180
Continued use of toxic gas
exacerbates the horrific effects
01:43:05.180 --> 01:43:06.800
of climate change.
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:10.183
And we've recently learned
that 20% of toxic gas,
01:43:10.183 --> 01:43:14.630
used in California is
used for production of oil
01:43:14.630 --> 01:43:17.305
by heating water to steaming,
01:43:17.305 --> 01:43:20.870
to loosen and release
oil trapped in the ground.
01:43:20.870 --> 01:43:24.100
This wastes a precious water resource.
01:43:24.100 --> 01:43:27.472
Please close Aliso
Canyon and Playa Del Rey
01:43:27.472 --> 01:43:31.980
and block SoCalGas
Compressor Expansion in Ventura,
01:43:31.980 --> 01:43:36.120
at least until an environmental
impact report is complete.
01:43:36.120 --> 01:43:38.610
And watch the speeches of Mr. Drury
01:43:38.610 --> 01:43:42.230
when he got appointed to lead SoCalGas.
01:43:42.230 --> 01:43:46.200
His disingenuous desire
to modernize and expand
01:43:46.200 --> 01:43:50.769
SoCalGas infrastructure
all over Southern California
01:43:50.769 --> 01:43:52.570
is frightening.
01:43:52.570 --> 01:43:54.870
Stop the toxic gas.
01:43:54.870 --> 01:43:56.713
Thank you for hearing me today.
01:43:58.700 --> 01:43:59.600
Thank you.
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:01.273
Operator next caller please.
01:44:02.180 --> 01:44:04.600
The next
caller is Ariana Stern,
01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:06.063
your line is now open.
01:44:08.730 --> 01:44:10.520
Hi, thank you so much.
01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:13.920
So first I want to respond
to the speaker's comments
01:44:14.850 --> 01:44:17.530
that SoCalGas wants to investigate
01:44:17.530 --> 01:44:20.430
the potential impact of expanding Aliso.
01:44:20.430 --> 01:44:22.580
They are just trying
to confuse the situation
01:44:22.580 --> 01:44:25.389
and insert ambiguity,
where there is none.
01:44:25.389 --> 01:44:27.940
It's already clear that expanding Aliso
01:44:27.940 --> 01:44:29.540
would make people horribly sick
01:44:29.540 --> 01:44:32.735
and just lining SoCalGas's pocket.
01:44:32.735 --> 01:44:35.740
Californians elected Governor Newsom
01:44:35.740 --> 01:44:38.660
on a mandate to shut Aliso Canyon down.
01:44:38.660 --> 01:44:40.720
And the L.A. County Board of Supervisors
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:42.750
has spoken out against it.
01:44:42.750 --> 01:44:45.840
Their study actually showed
it's not needed to deliver
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.203
consistent power to SoCal.
01:44:48.770 --> 01:44:51.810
This facility leaks
carcinogens into the air
01:44:51.810 --> 01:44:53.260
on an ongoing basis
01:44:53.260 --> 01:44:56.060
and makes the most vulnerable
people desperately sick.
01:44:56.060 --> 01:44:58.940
We've actually heard from
some of them on this call.
01:44:58.940 --> 01:45:01.420
You can talk about green energy all day,
01:45:01.420 --> 01:45:03.603
but if you increase their
reliance on fossil fuels
01:45:03.603 --> 01:45:05.950
then your words fall flat.
01:45:05.950 --> 01:45:08.560
Friendly SoCalGas has already attempted
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:12.930
to build way safety checks
on Aliso on spurious grounds.
01:45:12.930 --> 01:45:16.270
This is just so SoCalGas
can't train a puppy,
01:45:16.270 --> 01:45:18.530
and now they want to adopt a child.
01:45:18.530 --> 01:45:21.510
This idea is dangerous,
stupid, and unpopular,
01:45:21.510 --> 01:45:22.980
and I urge you to reject it.
01:45:22.980 --> 01:45:23.813
That's all.
01:45:26.350 --> 01:45:28.976
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:45:28.976 --> 01:45:31.250
The next
caller is Jack Neff,
01:45:31.250 --> 01:45:32.733
your line is now open.
01:45:34.630 --> 01:45:37.330
Madam Chairman
and honorable members
01:45:37.330 --> 01:45:39.970
of the Public Utilities Commission,
01:45:39.970 --> 01:45:41.270
my name is Jack Neff.
01:45:41.270 --> 01:45:45.840
I am a Southern California
Gas residential rate payer.
01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:49.040
I don't think any of the prior
speakers announced themselves
01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:49.873
as rate payers,
01:45:49.873 --> 01:45:54.213
but I can tell you that Alexandra
Nagee and Matt Pukeko
01:45:55.720 --> 01:45:58.020
are also SoCalGas rate payers,
01:45:58.020 --> 01:46:01.810
if that gives us more standing
before the Commission
01:46:01.810 --> 01:46:03.036
with our comments.
01:46:03.036 --> 01:46:08.036
I'm opposing the Aliso Canyon expansion
01:46:08.140 --> 01:46:12.980
and the Ventura County
Compressor Station expansion,
01:46:12.980 --> 01:46:16.887
Southern California Gas is a danger.
01:46:16.887 --> 01:46:21.370
The concern of other callers
on today have been about
01:46:21.370 --> 01:46:26.310
wildfires and the
Southern California Gas,
01:46:26.310 --> 01:46:31.310
Playa Del Rey Gas Field,
which is not at issue today,
01:46:31.440 --> 01:46:33.450
but he's also very controversial,
01:46:33.450 --> 01:46:36.940
has caught fire, does flare up.
01:46:36.940 --> 01:46:38.920
And during the 1994 earthquake,
01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:42.310
I did myself see
Southern California Gas,
01:46:42.310 --> 01:46:46.390
natural gas, compression stations,
01:46:46.390 --> 01:46:50.220
shut down and catch fire.
01:46:50.220 --> 01:46:52.360
So we're dealing with real hazards here
01:46:52.360 --> 01:46:56.320
and I agree with other speakers who say,
01:46:56.320 --> 01:46:59.610
what we need is local energy production.
01:46:59.610 --> 01:47:02.793
We need rooftop solar,
we need net metering.
01:47:02.793 --> 01:47:07.693
We need to move away from
this consolidated, expanding,
01:47:08.893 --> 01:47:09.726
of you know,
01:47:09.726 --> 01:47:13.820
detrimental utilities that is
really driving climate change
01:47:13.820 --> 01:47:18.280
with their reliance and
love affair with fossil fuels.
01:47:18.280 --> 01:47:19.113
Thank you.
01:47:21.200 --> 01:47:24.240
Thank you, Operator
the next caller, please.
01:47:24.240 --> 01:47:26.830
The next
caller is Elena Kariyanna,
01:47:26.830 --> 01:47:28.253
your line is now open.
01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:31.460
Hi, my name
is Elena Kariyanna
01:47:31.460 --> 01:47:33.390
co-founder of Aliso Movement Alliance
01:47:33.390 --> 01:47:36.680
and a resident of
Granada Hills for 30 years.
01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:37.513
To be honest,
01:47:37.513 --> 01:47:39.650
living here next to Aliso
01:47:39.650 --> 01:47:42.690
feels like living next
to a ticking bomb,
01:47:42.690 --> 01:47:45.070
which can go off at any time.
01:47:45.070 --> 01:47:48.740
Even on it's own like it
did in October of 2015
01:47:48.740 --> 01:47:53.740
or have catastrophic
events because of the fire,
01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:57.340
which is our new norm and earthquake.
01:47:57.340 --> 01:48:01.870
Aliso needs to be shut down
but not allowed to be added
01:48:01.870 --> 01:48:04.181
more fuel to this ticking bomb.
01:48:04.181 --> 01:48:05.680
Last six years,
01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:08.560
I have watched so many of
my friends and neighbors suffer
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.840
from different health issues,
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:12.891
including too many cancer cases.
01:48:12.891 --> 01:48:17.698
I watched an 18 years old young lady,
01:48:17.698 --> 01:48:20.080
die because of this
01:48:21.008 --> 01:48:26.008
exposure to the toxic
that was coming from Aliso.
01:48:26.550 --> 01:48:29.370
My family and I are
still having health issues
01:48:29.370 --> 01:48:32.460
because of all the
polytoxins in that area.
01:48:32.460 --> 01:48:37.460
Since 2015, I had to rush
my daughter twice to ER,
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:40.730
and numerous times to urgent care
01:48:40.730 --> 01:48:41.960
and doctor offices.
01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:43.860
I had to call 911 twice
01:48:43.860 --> 01:48:47.580
when my then healthy
tennis player, husband,
01:48:47.580 --> 01:48:49.893
and watch him to be taken to a hospital.
01:48:51.210 --> 01:48:54.140
Myself having too many health issues,
01:48:54.140 --> 01:48:55.550
including stomach issues,
01:48:55.550 --> 01:48:59.470
heart palpitations,
dizziness, muscle aches,
01:48:59.470 --> 01:49:04.470
eye irritation, foggy memory
and being lethargic at times,
01:49:04.510 --> 01:49:08.187
which just started
after October of 2015.
01:49:08.187 --> 01:49:12.973
Please do not go by what
SoCalGas is telling you obviously
01:49:12.973 --> 01:49:15.490
for them to make more money
01:49:15.490 --> 01:49:19.385
and that's what the
facility is open right now.
01:49:19.385 --> 01:49:22.310
Do your job, do your own research.
01:49:22.310 --> 01:49:25.440
Talk to the Community Representative
01:49:26.480 --> 01:49:29.200
like Alicia Lind in Porter Ranch,
01:49:29.200 --> 01:49:31.780
talk to local health clinics and doctors
01:49:31.780 --> 01:49:36.350
to find out the rise of
cancer cases since 2015.
01:49:36.350 --> 01:49:37.183
In a perfect world,
01:49:37.183 --> 01:49:39.730
we would not be giving public comments
01:49:39.730 --> 01:49:41.470
to beg you save our lives.
01:49:41.470 --> 01:49:44.822
It is not so messed up
for people have at least
01:49:44.822 --> 01:49:48.150
one L.A. County Public
Health Representative
01:49:48.150 --> 01:49:49.900
to advocate for our communities health
01:49:49.900 --> 01:49:51.730
and tell you how harmful
01:49:51.730 --> 01:49:54.920
that facility is for anyone's health
01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:57.030
and why it needs to be shut down.
01:49:57.030 --> 01:49:58.230
Thank you for your time.
01:50:01.049 --> 01:50:04.050
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:50:04.050 --> 01:50:06.230
The next
caller is Sasha Fulsom,
01:50:06.230 --> 01:50:07.683
your line is now open.
01:50:08.717 --> 01:50:10.453
Hello? Can you hear me?
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:13.900
Hello? Can you hear me?
01:50:13.900 --> 01:50:17.350
Yes, we can hear you
fine, please go ahead.
01:50:17.350 --> 01:50:18.200
Great thanks.
01:50:18.200 --> 01:50:20.000
My name is Sasha Fulsom.
01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:24.412
I am a Cal-Am water rate payer
01:50:24.412 --> 01:50:28.820
here in Carmel Valley Village,
01:50:28.820 --> 01:50:31.793
which is located on
the Monterey Peninsula.
01:50:34.460 --> 01:50:39.250
I am a member of a really important
01:50:39.250 --> 01:50:44.250
public rate payer organization
called Public Water Now.
01:50:44.410 --> 01:50:48.730
And I was alerted to agenda item five,
01:50:51.130 --> 01:50:56.130
which basically approved a purchase
01:50:56.400 --> 01:51:01.330
for the East Pasadena
Water Company there.
01:51:02.820 --> 01:51:07.820
And I understand
that there's a rule that
01:51:09.730 --> 01:51:14.440
the actually California
Public Utilities Commission,
01:51:14.440 --> 01:51:18.770
it's one of their own rules
that was placed on the books
01:51:18.770 --> 01:51:22.248
in order to specifically avoid
01:51:22.248 --> 01:51:27.248
these types of profiteering
from buying water systems.
01:51:31.030 --> 01:51:35.810
You know, a 750% profit.
01:51:35.810 --> 01:51:37.400
Wow!
01:51:37.400 --> 01:51:41.270
I mean, this is a very,
01:51:41.270 --> 01:51:45.563
very massive windfall
01:51:45.563 --> 01:51:50.300
for this person who apparently
01:51:50.300 --> 01:51:52.263
is the main shareholder.
01:51:53.772 --> 01:51:55.565
And Cal-Am
01:51:55.565 --> 01:51:59.750
will have the right to essentially
01:51:59.750 --> 01:52:04.750
froist this onto all of us,
01:52:05.020 --> 01:52:09.110
including people in the
far away Northern reaches
01:52:09.110 --> 01:52:11.513
of the Monterey Peninsula.
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.910
I think, you know that we will receive
01:52:15.910 --> 01:52:19.713
absolutely zero benefit from this.
01:52:19.713 --> 01:52:24.713
And you know, it's just really terrible.
01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:29.027
I mean, how can CPUC
ignore their own rules?
01:52:31.964 --> 01:52:35.662
I don't believe I've had
my full two minutes here.
01:52:35.662 --> 01:52:37.533
Can I proceed?
01:52:38.450 --> 01:52:40.963
I'm sorry, Ms. Fulsom no.
01:52:40.963 --> 01:52:43.920
We have somebody that times each call.
01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:45.880
So we appreciate your comments.
01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:48.310
So we need to move
on to the next caller.
01:52:48.310 --> 01:52:49.143
Thank you.
01:52:52.160 --> 01:52:54.510
The next
caller is Lisa Levinson,
01:52:54.510 --> 01:52:55.943
your line is now open.
01:53:00.192 --> 01:53:02.450
Hello, Lisa Levinson
01:53:02.450 --> 01:53:04.160
with In Defense of Animals
01:53:04.160 --> 01:53:06.650
representing a quarter
million supporters.
01:53:06.650 --> 01:53:09.730
We oppose adding any new gas storage
01:53:09.730 --> 01:53:13.155
at either Aliso Canyon or Playa Del Rey
01:53:13.155 --> 01:53:15.700
SoCalGas storage fields,
01:53:15.700 --> 01:53:19.070
which are dangerous
to people and animals.
01:53:19.070 --> 01:53:22.316
We urge you to shut down
these gas storage fields
01:53:22.316 --> 01:53:24.983
and the Ventura Compressor Station.
01:53:26.100 --> 01:53:29.240
We support the County
of L.A's opening comments
01:53:29.240 --> 01:53:32.840
to you last year to shut down
Aliso canyon Gas Storage,
01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:36.780
and urge the CPUC to add Playa Del Rey
01:53:36.780 --> 01:53:39.063
to its agenda to shut down.
01:53:39.910 --> 01:53:42.876
The Playa Del Rey facility lies beneath
01:53:42.876 --> 01:53:45.630
the Ballona Wetlands Ecological Reserve.
01:53:45.630 --> 01:53:49.680
We oppose the close proximity
of this dangerous and toxic
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:53.983
gas storage operation
to this fragile ecosystem.
01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:56.330
Thousands of animals,
01:53:56.330 --> 01:54:00.540
including some endangered
species and rare plant populations
01:54:00.540 --> 01:54:02.660
live at the Ballona Wetlands.
01:54:02.660 --> 01:54:04.920
Don't further endanger these animals
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:08.640
that Governor Newsom
is interested to protect.
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:10.560
We are in a climate emergency.
01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.480
Fracked gas stored
beneath Ballona Wetlands
01:54:13.480 --> 01:54:16.980
uses over 200 chemicals
and resulting emissions
01:54:16.980 --> 01:54:19.800
contribute to climate change impact.
01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:24.800
We ask the CPUC to close the
Playa Del Rey and Aliso canyon
01:54:26.080 --> 01:54:30.270
sites within the next year, thank you.
01:54:30.270 --> 01:54:33.670
Thank you operator,
the next caller please.
01:54:33.670 --> 01:54:36.570
The next
caller is Susan Giovanni,
01:54:36.570 --> 01:54:38.043
your line is now open.
01:54:38.890 --> 01:54:40.090
Thank you.
01:54:40.090 --> 01:54:41.260
Thank you for letting me speak.
01:54:41.260 --> 01:54:44.020
I am a Seaside Cal-Am rate payer
01:54:44.020 --> 01:54:45.700
and I'm addressing item five
01:54:45.700 --> 01:54:47.420
on the Consent Agenda.
01:54:47.420 --> 01:54:49.890
Approval of Cal-Am's proposal
01:54:49.890 --> 01:54:53.900
would be a dangerous
precedent in unfair profit taking,
01:54:53.900 --> 01:54:56.573
an unfair financial
burden on rate payers
01:54:56.573 --> 01:54:59.780
and based on faulty arguments.
01:54:59.780 --> 01:55:04.590
You are responsible for fair
rates and consumer protection,
01:55:04.590 --> 01:55:07.010
and must thoroughly
review this proposal,
01:55:07.010 --> 01:55:09.560
including the supposed evidence.
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:12.250
CPUC's gain-on-sales rule
01:55:12.250 --> 01:55:14.914
explicitly makes allocation requirements
01:55:14.914 --> 01:55:17.195
applicable to the sale of used
01:55:17.195 --> 01:55:20.120
and useful utility assets.
01:55:20.120 --> 01:55:22.470
The sole exception is sale of
01:55:22.470 --> 01:55:25.708
no longer used and useful real estate.
01:55:25.708 --> 01:55:29.420
The East Pasadena
Assets are used and useful
01:55:29.420 --> 01:55:33.650
and gain-on-sales rules
must apply to this sale.
01:55:33.650 --> 01:55:35.850
Please follow your own rules.
01:55:35.850 --> 01:55:40.249
Please either amend this
decision to include this rule
01:55:40.249 --> 01:55:44.216
or delay this decision
for full public hearing
01:55:44.216 --> 01:55:47.270
so there is a complete and fair review.
01:55:47.270 --> 01:55:48.103
Thank you.
01:55:50.710 --> 01:55:53.123
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
01:55:54.060 --> 01:55:56.310
The next
caller is Lori Avazian,
01:55:56.310 --> 01:55:58.083
your line is now open.
01:55:59.952 --> 01:56:02.970
Good morning, President
Batjer and Commissioners.
01:56:02.970 --> 01:56:06.480
Thank you for the opportunity
to give comment today.
01:56:06.480 --> 01:56:08.040
My name is Lori Avazian
01:56:08.040 --> 01:56:12.250
I'm a family member of
the Aliso Moms Alliance,
01:56:12.250 --> 01:56:14.120
a Board Member of Save Porter Ranch
01:56:14.120 --> 01:56:16.820
and a member of the
L.A. County Department
01:56:16.820 --> 01:56:19.890
of Public Health
Community Advisory Group
01:56:19.890 --> 01:56:22.360
for the $25 million health study
01:56:22.360 --> 01:56:24.660
on the effects of the
blowout on my community.
01:56:25.740 --> 01:56:29.800
More importantly, I'm a 21
year resident of Porter Ranch.
01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:31.180
I live less than two miles from
01:56:31.180 --> 01:56:33.910
the Aliso Canyon Storage Facility.
01:56:33.910 --> 01:56:36.130
My family and pets
were terribly affected
01:56:36.130 --> 01:56:37.850
by the 2015 blowout
01:56:37.850 --> 01:56:40.470
and continue to suffer health problems
01:56:40.470 --> 01:56:43.781
we attribute to
emissions from the facility.
01:56:43.781 --> 01:56:46.110
I'd like to comment in opposition to
01:56:46.110 --> 01:56:48.410
any increase in storage capacity
01:56:48.410 --> 01:56:52.730
and limits at the Aliso Canyon Facility.
01:56:52.730 --> 01:56:54.450
Governors Brown and Newsom,
01:56:54.450 --> 01:56:59.160
the L.A. County Board of
Supervisors, the L.A. City Council,
01:56:59.160 --> 01:57:02.650
Senator Feinstein and
State Senator Henry Stern
01:57:02.650 --> 01:57:07.000
have all asked for in support
an expedited timeframe closure
01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:08.960
of this dangerous facility.
01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:12.240
In terms of safety, Aliso Canyon
01:57:12.240 --> 01:57:15.740
is documented to be in
a high fire hazard area.
01:57:15.740 --> 01:57:17.170
My family, since we've lived here
01:57:17.170 --> 01:57:19.460
have been evacuated three times,
01:57:19.460 --> 01:57:22.580
most recently in 2019
for the system fire,
01:57:22.580 --> 01:57:27.260
which burned right up to the
edge of the compressor station
01:57:27.260 --> 01:57:29.580
on the Aliso Canyon property.
01:57:29.580 --> 01:57:34.499
This Santa Susanna
fault line transects all
01:57:34.499 --> 01:57:37.027
119 Wells on the property
01:57:37.027 --> 01:57:40.173
and according to the
Blade Energy Report,
01:57:40.173 --> 01:57:43.700
SoCalGas was faulted for
negligence in its operations,
01:57:43.700 --> 01:57:47.344
which led to the blow out of 2015, 2016,
01:57:47.344 --> 01:57:51.025
which affected so many of my neighbors.
01:57:51.025 --> 01:57:54.250
Your own safety and
health enforcement division
01:57:54.250 --> 01:57:57.077
is listed 330 violations
against SoCalGas
01:57:57.077 --> 01:57:58.257
and its investigation
01:57:58.257 --> 01:58:01.600
of a lack of safety
culture at the facility.
01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:03.903
And then in terms of health,
01:58:03.903 --> 01:58:06.830
six of my daughter's
elementary school teachers
01:58:06.830 --> 01:58:08.890
at Castlebay Lane Elementary,
01:58:08.890 --> 01:58:13.695
which is less than a half
mile from the facility have died.
01:58:13.695 --> 01:58:17.330
I urge you and implore you to support
01:58:17.330 --> 01:58:19.470
expedited closure of Aliso Canyon
01:58:19.470 --> 01:58:22.210
and go back to using it
as an absolute last resort.
01:58:22.210 --> 01:58:25.483
Please protect the health
of our community, thank you.
01:58:25.483 --> 01:58:26.670
Thank you.
01:58:26.670 --> 01:58:28.663
Operator the next caller please.
01:58:29.660 --> 01:58:31.930
The next
caller is Marley Nelson,
01:58:31.930 --> 01:58:33.483
your line is now open.
01:58:34.723 --> 01:58:36.250
Good morning.
01:58:36.250 --> 01:58:40.070
The CPUC was founded
by the State of California
01:58:40.070 --> 01:58:43.667
to prevent monopolies from
exploiting their customers
01:58:43.667 --> 01:58:46.120
and local residents.
01:58:46.120 --> 01:58:49.330
So thank you Commissioners
for your work to do this.
01:58:49.330 --> 01:58:52.130
Water is a public good.
01:58:52.130 --> 01:58:55.120
It must not be treated
as just another commodity
01:58:55.120 --> 01:58:58.262
for rich profiteers to buy and sell.
01:58:58.262 --> 01:59:01.957
Please pull out item five
from the Consent Agenda
01:59:01.957 --> 01:59:05.020
and take time to read
and follow the clear
01:59:05.020 --> 01:59:08.753
and beneficial advice in the
Public Advocate's briefing.
01:59:10.022 --> 01:59:15.022
Gain-on-sale rules apply to
used and still useful assets.
01:59:16.683 --> 01:59:18.570
The owner's argument
01:59:20.150 --> 01:59:24.790
that for 750% profit on this sale
01:59:24.790 --> 01:59:28.300
ignore something that every
first year business student
01:59:28.300 --> 01:59:29.908
would catch.
01:59:29.908 --> 01:59:34.908
They've already received
a 10% profit every year
01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:37.943
on all of the funds they reinvested.
01:59:39.590 --> 01:59:42.720
So part of the $30 million from the sale
01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:47.720
of the East Pasadena Water
Company must go to rate payers.
01:59:48.190 --> 01:59:51.820
Perhaps there've been
mistakes in the past about this,
01:59:51.820 --> 01:59:54.623
but please do not repeat them.
01:59:55.589 --> 01:59:59.390
You'll be protecting more
than 600,000 California people
01:59:59.390 --> 02:00:00.400
and businesses.
02:00:00.400 --> 02:00:04.540
Families with little kids
from having to pay for water
02:00:04.540 --> 02:00:06.867
they will never see or use.
02:00:06.867 --> 02:00:11.556
Please pull item five and reconsider.
02:00:11.556 --> 02:00:12.713
Thank you.
02:00:15.250 --> 02:00:16.277
Thank you.
02:00:16.277 --> 02:00:21.277
Operator, we are going to
take a 15 minute health break.
02:00:21.876 --> 02:00:26.876
My fellow Commissioners
and I, for 15 minutes,
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:28.610
maybe just a little under.
02:00:28.610 --> 02:00:33.293
We will return to the
virtual dais at 12:15.
02:00:34.350 --> 02:00:38.963
12:15, a 15 minute health break.
02:00:40.010 --> 02:00:40.843
So thank you.
02:00:52.889 --> 02:00:55.060
The feed
for this streaming event
02:00:55.060 --> 02:00:55.893
brought to you by-
02:00:55.893 --> 02:00:56.726
This is Maria,
02:00:56.726 --> 02:00:58.630
should we start raising quorum again?
02:00:58.630 --> 02:01:00.280
Yes, Maria thank you.
02:01:00.280 --> 02:01:03.360
I was just about to text
you and see if we should.
02:01:03.360 --> 02:01:06.470
So let's first operate before
we bring on the next caller
02:01:06.470 --> 02:01:08.500
we need to establish a quorum.
02:01:08.500 --> 02:01:10.853
So Maria, could you
please call the roll?
02:01:13.240 --> 02:01:14.689
Commissioner Houck?
02:01:14.689 --> 02:01:15.793
Here.
02:01:17.711 --> 02:01:19.652
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:01:19.652 --> 02:01:21.168
Present.
02:01:21.168 --> 02:01:23.459
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:01:23.459 --> 02:01:25.680
I'm here.
02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:28.298
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:01:28.298 --> 02:01:29.131
Here.
02:01:30.238 --> 02:01:31.671
President Batjer.
02:01:31.671 --> 02:01:34.360
Here, a quorum
has been established.
02:01:34.360 --> 02:01:35.590
Thank you all.
02:01:35.590 --> 02:01:38.240
Operator, now, if you
could bring on the next caller.
02:01:39.458 --> 02:01:41.160
The next
caller is Karen Paul,
02:01:41.160 --> 02:01:42.663
your line is now open.
02:01:45.810 --> 02:01:48.500
Good afternoon
Commissioners, can you hear me?
02:01:48.500 --> 02:01:50.870
Yes, we can please proceed.
02:01:50.870 --> 02:01:53.620
Thank you, my
name is Karen Paul.
02:01:53.620 --> 02:01:56.670
I am a Cal-Am ratepayer,
02:01:56.670 --> 02:01:59.460
I'm also a Monterey
Peninsula Water Management
02:01:59.460 --> 02:02:01.340
District Board Member.
02:02:01.340 --> 02:02:03.433
But I'm speaking for myself here.
02:02:04.450 --> 02:02:06.410
Like several of the previous callers
02:02:06.410 --> 02:02:08.170
I'm calling to ask you to
02:02:08.170 --> 02:02:10.467
pull item five from the Consent Agenda
02:02:10.467 --> 02:02:12.393
and hold it for further consideration
02:02:12.393 --> 02:02:14.889
of the gain-on-sale issue.
02:02:14.889 --> 02:02:18.730
The proposed decision
accepts the applicant's argument
02:02:18.730 --> 02:02:20.650
that the Commission should not
02:02:20.650 --> 02:02:22.356
apply it's gain-on-sale rules
02:02:22.356 --> 02:02:24.609
to acquisitions of water utilities
02:02:24.609 --> 02:02:27.198
under the Consolidation Act.
02:02:27.198 --> 02:02:29.185
But Public Advocates are right.
02:02:29.185 --> 02:02:30.833
That is not the law.
02:02:30.833 --> 02:02:33.180
The Commission's gain-on-sales decisions
02:02:33.180 --> 02:02:37.271
do apply to consolidation
at acquisitions.
02:02:37.271 --> 02:02:39.651
Allocating some of
the gain to rate payers
02:02:39.651 --> 02:02:42.227
would reduce the seller's profit,
02:02:42.227 --> 02:02:44.590
but this proposed decision
02:02:44.590 --> 02:02:49.330
authorizes a 750% return on investment.
02:02:49.330 --> 02:02:51.600
Surely this is way more than necessary
02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:53.327
to incentivize the sale
02:02:53.327 --> 02:02:57.160
and some of the gains could
be shared with rate payers.
02:02:57.160 --> 02:02:59.270
Should be shared with rate payers.
02:02:59.270 --> 02:03:02.450
Cal-Am would still get to
add the entire acquisition price
02:03:02.450 --> 02:03:05.720
of $34 million to it's rate base.
02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:08.306
That's required by
the Consolidation Act.
02:03:08.306 --> 02:03:12.380
And this creates a situation
where both seller and buyer
02:03:12.380 --> 02:03:16.113
has an incentive to make
the acquisition price high.
02:03:17.330 --> 02:03:19.900
And please don't be
swayed by Cal-Am's argument
02:03:19.900 --> 02:03:21.775
that gain-on-sales rules don't apply
02:03:21.775 --> 02:03:25.415
to acquisitions of
entire utility systems.
02:03:25.415 --> 02:03:28.930
The Commission may not have
applied its gain-on-sales rules
02:03:28.930 --> 02:03:31.193
to Cal-AM's previous acquisitions,
02:03:32.040 --> 02:03:34.490
but those cases may
have been wrongly decided
02:03:34.490 --> 02:03:37.570
or there may have been
special circumstances.
02:03:37.570 --> 02:03:41.440
Please make sure to correctly
apply the gain-on-sale rules
02:03:41.440 --> 02:03:43.230
In this decision.
02:03:43.230 --> 02:03:46.650
there are many more water
company consolidations coming,
02:03:46.650 --> 02:03:49.970
so it is important to
know whether and how
02:03:49.970 --> 02:03:52.900
The Commissions
gain-on-sale rules apply.
02:03:52.900 --> 02:03:53.733
Thank you.
02:03:55.570 --> 02:03:58.563
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:03:58.563 --> 02:04:01.960
The next caller is
Margaret Anne Copper-Knowles
02:04:01.960 --> 02:04:03.830
your line is now open.
02:04:03.830 --> 02:04:05.456
Oh, good afternoon.
02:04:05.456 --> 02:04:07.484
This proposed a decision
02:04:07.484 --> 02:04:10.313
on the sale of East Pasadena Water,
02:04:10.313 --> 02:04:13.680
agenda number five,
Consent Agenda number five,
02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:15.970
is unconscionable from my perspective.
02:04:15.970 --> 02:04:18.470
How can the CPUC that is required
02:04:18.470 --> 02:04:21.600
to protect rate payers from profiteering
02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:23.320
approve this transaction?
02:04:23.320 --> 02:04:26.570
Gain-on-sale rules should
be applied to this sale
02:04:26.570 --> 02:04:29.766
because these are
used and useful assets.
02:04:29.766 --> 02:04:34.240
Why should Cal-Am rate payers
pay for the entire acquisition
02:04:34.240 --> 02:04:36.200
with zero benefit?
02:04:36.200 --> 02:04:38.543
Why should one very wealthy family
02:04:38.543 --> 02:04:42.010
be greatly enriched by
forcing Cal-Am customers
02:04:42.010 --> 02:04:44.280
to pay this enormous sum
02:04:44.280 --> 02:04:47.420
added to their already
rising water bills?
02:04:47.420 --> 02:04:51.403
Is 750% profit on a
public water utility,
02:04:51.403 --> 02:04:53.420
it's not reasonable.
02:04:53.420 --> 02:04:57.430
Please do not approve
this unfair transaction as is.
02:04:57.430 --> 02:05:00.340
Water is an essential for life,
02:05:00.340 --> 02:05:02.280
God given human right.
02:05:02.280 --> 02:05:05.030
Ensure, please ensure
that the rate payers
02:05:05.030 --> 02:05:08.867
you are mandated to protect
are protected from greed
02:05:08.867 --> 02:05:11.950
justice CPUC rules,
02:05:11.950 --> 02:05:14.780
as the Public Advocate's
office require it.
02:05:14.780 --> 02:05:17.503
Thank you so much
and have a blessed day.
02:05:18.996 --> 02:05:20.120
Thank you.
02:05:20.120 --> 02:05:22.104
Operator the next caller please.
02:05:22.104 --> 02:05:25.210
The next caller
is Dennis Townsend,
02:05:25.210 --> 02:05:26.783
your line is now open.
02:05:28.490 --> 02:05:31.703
Thank you very much
and thank you Commissioners.
02:05:33.240 --> 02:05:34.710
My name is Dennis Townsend,
02:05:34.710 --> 02:05:38.060
I'm a Tulare County
Supervisor for District Five.
02:05:38.060 --> 02:05:43.060
Most of my District is in
the Sequoia National Forest.
02:05:43.230 --> 02:05:45.860
Now the Giant Sequoia National Monument,
02:05:45.860 --> 02:05:47.880
and this last year,
02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:52.560
the Sequoia or complex fire or SQF Fire
02:05:52.560 --> 02:05:56.363
in 2020 took about 300 structures
02:05:56.363 --> 02:06:00.190
and about 3000 Giant Sequoias,
02:06:00.190 --> 02:06:05.170
and it took about 170,000
acres that it burned.
02:06:05.170 --> 02:06:07.020
That's the largest wildfire we've had
02:06:07.020 --> 02:06:08.865
in Tulare County's history.
02:06:08.865 --> 02:06:11.930
I mentioned 3000 Giant Sequoias,
02:06:11.930 --> 02:06:13.730
mature Giant Sequoias.
02:06:13.730 --> 02:06:18.110
That represents about 10%
of all mature Giant Sequoias,
02:06:18.110 --> 02:06:22.120
which is just an alarming
number of these giants
02:06:22.120 --> 02:06:23.288
that we lost.
02:06:23.288 --> 02:06:27.420
We really can't afford to stop hardening
02:06:27.420 --> 02:06:29.883
SCE's systems,
02:06:29.883 --> 02:06:34.743
especially in this tier
three high fire threat area.
02:06:36.540 --> 02:06:40.690
These cupboard conductors
are a proven method
02:06:40.690 --> 02:06:43.390
to stop that sparking whenever the,
02:06:43.390 --> 02:06:45.495
the wires touch a tree or whenever they,
02:06:45.495 --> 02:06:48.170
if they fall or something
falls against them.
02:06:48.170 --> 02:06:51.015
And therefore it's a
proven method of stopping
02:06:51.015 --> 02:06:53.910
ignition of fuels that are starting
02:06:53.910 --> 02:06:55.739
in these wild land areas.
02:06:55.739 --> 02:06:58.047
So I would just request that you don't,
02:06:58.047 --> 02:07:02.290
or you look at this again
about reducing funding
02:07:02.290 --> 02:07:04.997
and not reduce funding for the,
02:07:04.997 --> 02:07:09.070
for Southern California Edison's
covered conductor program.
02:07:09.070 --> 02:07:10.850
It's really critical.
02:07:10.850 --> 02:07:15.830
It's a critical player
in wildfire mitigation.
02:07:17.220 --> 02:07:19.100
Our board, the board of supervisors,
02:07:19.100 --> 02:07:23.550
for Tulare County also
submitted a letter to this effect.
02:07:23.550 --> 02:07:27.610
And so I just wanted to
add my, my plea with you to,
02:07:27.610 --> 02:07:32.050
to reconsider that I'm not
advocating for rate increases,
02:07:32.050 --> 02:07:36.460
but maybe we can find a
different way to reduce those rates
02:07:36.460 --> 02:07:38.920
other than cutting this proven program.
02:07:38.920 --> 02:07:40.120
Thank you for your time.
02:07:42.130 --> 02:07:43.640
Thank you for your call.
02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:45.653
Operator and next caller please.
02:07:46.620 --> 02:07:48.457
The next
caller is Troy Gowen,
02:07:48.457 --> 02:07:50.313
your line is now open.
02:07:56.523 --> 02:07:58.963
Troy Gowen, please
check your mute button.
02:08:02.740 --> 02:08:04.910
Did you mean Troy Ishikawa?
02:08:06.333 --> 02:08:08.470
Yes, I apologize.
02:08:08.470 --> 02:08:09.840
Okay, thank you.
02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:12.680
Good afternoon Madam
President and Commissioners.
02:08:12.680 --> 02:08:16.760
This is Troy Ishikawa,
Cal-Am rate payer from Carmel.
02:08:16.760 --> 02:08:19.910
Could you speak more
directly into your phone, please?
02:08:19.910 --> 02:08:22.180
We're very hard to hear you.
02:08:22.180 --> 02:08:23.733
Oh, I'm sorry.
02:08:23.733 --> 02:08:26.332
That's much better, thank you.
02:08:26.332 --> 02:08:28.100
I'm here to
give public comment
02:08:28.100 --> 02:08:29.670
on agenda item five,
02:08:29.670 --> 02:08:31.920
the sale of East Pasadena Water
02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:33.714
to California American Water.
02:08:33.714 --> 02:08:37.050
The East Pasadena attorneys argue
02:08:37.050 --> 02:08:39.527
that applying gain-on-sale rules,
02:08:39.527 --> 02:08:42.730
which require a seller to
pass the share of the profit
02:08:42.730 --> 02:08:46.210
to customers destroys
the incentive for it's owners,
02:08:46.210 --> 02:08:47.778
the small water utilities to sell to
02:08:47.778 --> 02:08:50.530
larger, more capable utilities
02:08:50.530 --> 02:08:55.099
saying a 750% profit is necessary,
02:08:55.099 --> 02:08:59.208
is a necessary incentive to
sell the public water system,
02:08:59.208 --> 02:09:03.193
defies logic and smacks
of greed and profiteering.
02:09:04.340 --> 02:09:06.780
Amazing all the benefits they claim
02:09:06.780 --> 02:09:08.717
justify this transaction,
02:09:08.717 --> 02:09:11.570
but they are relying on
the ignorance of others
02:09:11.570 --> 02:09:13.080
pertaining to finance.
02:09:13.080 --> 02:09:16.979
They claim the 750% profit is reasonable
02:09:16.979 --> 02:09:21.470
since the owner invested
dividends back into the utility.
02:09:21.470 --> 02:09:22.940
This is financial doublespeak
02:09:22.940 --> 02:09:24.910
because the reinvested dividends
02:09:24.910 --> 02:09:28.952
also earn the 10% annual rate of return.
02:09:28.952 --> 02:09:32.547
Please reconsider this sale as proposed.
02:09:32.547 --> 02:09:33.503
Thank you.
02:09:35.820 --> 02:09:38.333
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
02:09:39.370 --> 02:09:41.290
The next
caller is Karen Ruby,
02:09:41.290 --> 02:09:42.863
your line is now open.
02:09:44.710 --> 02:09:48.350
Hi, my name is Karen Ruby
02:09:48.350 --> 02:09:51.290
and I'm calling because I
believe that this committee
02:09:51.290 --> 02:09:54.310
needs to reject the increase in storage
02:09:54.310 --> 02:09:58.790
for the Aliso canyon gas
storage facility and shut it down
02:09:58.790 --> 02:10:01.030
as Governor Newsom directed.
02:10:01.030 --> 02:10:03.950
This is an egregious and
unwarranted expansion
02:10:03.950 --> 02:10:07.120
of fossil fuels including toxic gas.
02:10:07.120 --> 02:10:09.620
During a time when we
need to be moving rapidly,
02:10:09.620 --> 02:10:11.780
as rapidly as possible to clean energy
02:10:11.780 --> 02:10:14.270
so the younger generations
have any chance to survive
02:10:14.270 --> 02:10:16.180
on a livable planet.
02:10:16.180 --> 02:10:18.700
Climate change is here, it is manmade,
02:10:18.700 --> 02:10:21.380
and it is due in large
part to fossil fuels.
02:10:21.380 --> 02:10:24.210
We already know that
we do not need the facility
02:10:24.210 --> 02:10:25.840
to maintain reliability.
02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:27.930
For two years after the gas blowout,
02:10:27.930 --> 02:10:30.236
Aliso Canyon was
under strict regulations
02:10:30.236 --> 02:10:32.090
and withdrawals were not permitted
02:10:32.090 --> 02:10:34.130
unless in the case of emergency.
02:10:34.130 --> 02:10:36.580
the SoCal region faced zero blackouts
02:10:36.580 --> 02:10:37.783
or gas supply shortages,
02:10:38.739 --> 02:10:41.513
as a result of Aliso
Canyon being offline.
02:10:42.460 --> 02:10:45.140
The South Coast Air
Quality Management District
02:10:45.140 --> 02:10:48.240
reports that Aliso
Canyon routinely emits
02:10:48.240 --> 02:10:50.760
carcinogens and
chemicals like formaldehyde,
02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:54.317
benzine, toluene, ethyl
benzene, and xylene,
02:10:54.317 --> 02:10:57.320
and all these all like so many more.
02:10:57.320 --> 02:11:00.970
These toxins and heavy metals
have been found in resident's
02:11:00.970 --> 02:11:05.450
hair, urine and blood in
significant concentrations.
02:11:05.450 --> 02:11:06.902
This is unacceptable.
02:11:06.902 --> 02:11:10.090
How many people
are you willing to sicken
02:11:10.090 --> 02:11:15.090
or kill to unnecessarily
line SoCalGas's pockets.
02:11:15.243 --> 02:11:19.260
You need to shut down
Aliso Canyon Storage.
02:11:19.260 --> 02:11:23.310
Since the gas blow out
ended in February 2016,
02:11:23.310 --> 02:11:26.420
there have been over 15
reported leaks and spills
02:11:26.420 --> 02:11:30.620
at the facility by SoCalGas
to State regulators.
02:11:30.620 --> 02:11:33.480
There are two leaks per day on average
02:11:33.480 --> 02:11:35.880
at the Aliso Canyon Storage Facility
02:11:35.880 --> 02:11:38.870
as per SoCalgas's sworn testimony
02:11:38.870 --> 02:11:41.851
on August in August 2016.
02:11:41.851 --> 02:11:45.700
There are countless ongoing
complaints of health problems
02:11:45.700 --> 02:11:49.670
reported identical to those
during the peak of the blowout.
02:11:49.670 --> 02:11:52.465
According to the L.A. County
Department of Public Health,
02:11:52.465 --> 02:11:57.465
63% of residents surveyed
reported health symptoms
02:11:57.850 --> 02:11:59.810
after the blowout with cap.
02:11:59.810 --> 02:12:00.903
You must prioritize our community
02:12:00.903 --> 02:12:02.530
and the health of our residents
02:12:02.530 --> 02:12:04.250
over SoCalGas and their earnings.
02:12:04.250 --> 02:12:06.932
Thank you.
02:12:06.932 --> 02:12:09.763
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
02:12:10.610 --> 02:12:12.840
The next
caller, Walt Tunotley,
02:12:12.840 --> 02:12:14.942
your line is now open.
02:12:14.942 --> 02:12:16.970
Hello, good afternoon.
02:12:16.970 --> 02:12:18.944
I hope you can hear me.
02:12:18.944 --> 02:12:23.944
I am Walt Tunotley of Monterey
Peninsula, Cal-Am rate payer.
02:12:26.200 --> 02:12:27.298
I would like,
02:12:27.298 --> 02:12:30.370
first I'd like to say that
water is a public resource
02:12:31.240 --> 02:12:34.523
that the CPUC must
protect from profiteering.
02:12:35.820 --> 02:12:38.220
In this new deal here
with East Pasadena Water,
02:12:38.220 --> 02:12:39.700
make sure that the final price,
02:12:39.700 --> 02:12:42.310
of East Pasadena Water System
02:12:42.310 --> 02:12:45.770
includes all construction
infrastructure upgrades
02:12:45.770 --> 02:12:49.810
that may be necessary when
Cal-Am gains this ownership.
02:12:49.810 --> 02:12:52.489
With good environmental stewardship,
02:12:52.489 --> 02:12:56.308
that include The Commission
gain-on-sales rules profit
02:12:56.308 --> 02:12:58.170
be split with rate payers
02:12:58.170 --> 02:13:01.120
so Cal-Am and other
utilities do not continue
02:13:01.120 --> 02:13:04.663
to maximize profits
at rate payer expense.
02:13:05.520 --> 02:13:08.060
Please pull item five from consent
02:13:08.060 --> 02:13:09.450
and hold this proposed decision
02:13:09.450 --> 02:13:10.983
on the sale of the East Pasadena Water
02:13:10.983 --> 02:13:13.406
for future discussion.
02:13:13.406 --> 02:13:17.180
So that rate payers
are fairly represented,
02:13:17.180 --> 02:13:19.090
such empowering you to do
02:13:19.090 --> 02:13:21.290
what the law intended you to do,
02:13:21.290 --> 02:13:25.340
protect rate payers and the
environment in which they live.
02:13:25.340 --> 02:13:26.173
Thank you.
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:32.040
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:13:32.040 --> 02:13:34.610
The next caller
is Lincoln Oliver O'Neil
02:13:34.610 --> 02:13:37.653
from Sunrise Bay area,
your line is now open.
02:13:39.270 --> 02:13:42.370
Thank you, good
morning Commissioners.
02:13:42.370 --> 02:13:44.100
My name is Lincoln Oliver O'Neil
02:13:44.100 --> 02:13:46.940
and I'm a member of Sunrise Bay Area.
02:13:46.940 --> 02:13:50.670
We stand with the Reclaim Our
Power! campaign to transform
02:13:50.670 --> 02:13:54.340
our energy system to
meet community needs.
02:13:54.340 --> 02:13:56.100
Energy is a human right,
02:13:56.100 --> 02:13:59.939
and we need utilities that
are affordable, safe, resilient,
02:13:59.939 --> 02:14:02.679
and community and worker controlled.
02:14:02.679 --> 02:14:06.590
Now, I have no
illusions that on this call
02:14:06.590 --> 02:14:09.840
we can correct all of
the decades of haphazard
02:14:09.840 --> 02:14:11.148
infrastructure investments,
02:14:11.148 --> 02:14:13.737
broken relationships with communities
02:14:13.737 --> 02:14:16.410
and short-term profit driven decisions
02:14:16.410 --> 02:14:19.363
that are piling up on
your desks as regulators.
02:14:20.330 --> 02:14:21.550
Lucky for you,
02:14:21.550 --> 02:14:23.170
we're not here asking for anything
02:14:23.170 --> 02:14:25.740
that you don't already know how to do
02:14:25.740 --> 02:14:27.273
or have the power to do.
02:14:28.270 --> 02:14:29.406
A little over a year ago
02:14:29.406 --> 02:14:31.755
when PG&E was exiting bankruptcy,
02:14:31.755 --> 02:14:35.660
we came to you asking
for complete transformation
02:14:35.660 --> 02:14:37.410
to community control overnight
02:14:37.410 --> 02:14:40.000
and you said, whoa,
whoa, whoa, not so fast,
02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:41.564
our hands are tied.
02:14:41.564 --> 02:14:44.030
In your process you
gave yourself the power
02:14:44.030 --> 02:14:46.720
you would need to
protect Californians from
02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:49.740
PG&E's negligence and
move towards an energy system
02:14:49.740 --> 02:14:50.890
that will keep us safe.
02:14:52.598 --> 02:14:53.990
Since then,
02:14:53.990 --> 02:14:56.380
PG&E has admitted
their potential involvement
02:14:56.380 --> 02:14:58.170
in the Dixie Fire
02:14:58.170 --> 02:15:01.090
and been confirmed as
responsible for the Zogg Fire
02:15:01.090 --> 02:15:03.240
claiming thousands of acres of land,
02:15:03.240 --> 02:15:05.070
as well as the lives and livelihoods
02:15:05.070 --> 02:15:06.713
of too many Californians.
02:15:07.640 --> 02:15:10.500
As the climate in California
gets drier and hotter
02:15:10.500 --> 02:15:15.120
PG&E's inability to adapt,
represents gross negligence.
02:15:15.120 --> 02:15:17.350
One of the criteria for making PG&E,
02:15:17.350 --> 02:15:18.950
moving PG&E to step four
02:15:18.950 --> 02:15:22.469
of your Enhanced Oversight
and Enforcement Process.
02:15:22.469 --> 02:15:25.940
As such, we demand
that you immediately place
02:15:25.940 --> 02:15:27.670
PG&E into step four,
02:15:27.670 --> 02:15:31.380
appointing a Chief Restructuring
Officer revisit and reject
02:15:31.380 --> 02:15:33.070
PG&E's safety certificate
02:15:33.070 --> 02:15:34.583
and make the investigations of the
02:15:34.583 --> 02:15:39.583
2019 Kincade fire and 2020
Zogg fire available to the public
02:15:39.660 --> 02:15:41.435
so that we can learn the lessons
02:15:41.435 --> 02:15:44.082
that might have
prevented the Dixie Fire.
02:15:44.082 --> 02:15:47.203
Thank you again for your time and I,
02:15:48.240 --> 02:15:51.107
yeah, do what we say, thank you.
02:15:52.011 --> 02:15:54.873
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:15:55.866 --> 02:15:57.810
The next
caller is Alan Marley
02:15:57.810 --> 02:16:01.682
from the Sunrise Movement,
your line is now open.
02:16:01.682 --> 02:16:03.450
I wish I could agree
02:16:03.450 --> 02:16:06.010
The Commission has made
the community more resilient,
02:16:06.010 --> 02:16:06.843
unfortunately,
02:16:06.843 --> 02:16:09.790
you swallowed a bill of
goods sold to you by PG&E
02:16:09.790 --> 02:16:11.466
for the solar cost calculator,
02:16:11.466 --> 02:16:13.080
which will make rooftop solar,
02:16:13.080 --> 02:16:15.992
a luxury item and
economically unaffordable,
02:16:15.992 --> 02:16:19.065
which is the opposite of
the Governor's mandate.
02:16:19.065 --> 02:16:22.130
PG&E is a criminal organization
02:16:22.130 --> 02:16:25.252
that burns California
citizens alive for profit
02:16:25.252 --> 02:16:27.830
and you should treat it as such.
02:16:27.830 --> 02:16:29.150
I joined Reclaim Our Power!
02:16:29.150 --> 02:16:31.150
And calling on you to immediately place
02:16:31.150 --> 02:16:34.360
PG&E into step four of
Enhanced Oversight Process
02:16:34.360 --> 02:16:38.470
for gross negligence and
systemic noncompliance.
02:16:38.470 --> 02:16:41.530
Also you must revisit and reject PG&E's
02:16:41.530 --> 02:16:43.841
safety certificate that you granted,
02:16:43.841 --> 02:16:48.330
but refuse to hold a
vote on in April this year.
02:16:48.330 --> 02:16:50.020
Until you take this action
02:16:50.020 --> 02:16:52.937
I can only say President
Batjer, shame on you.
02:16:52.937 --> 02:16:56.240
You're an accomplice to PG&E's crimes
02:16:56.240 --> 02:16:58.220
in this climate crisis.
02:16:58.220 --> 02:17:00.227
Commissioner Aceves, shame on you.
02:17:00.227 --> 02:17:02.500
You're an accomplice to PG&E's crimes
02:17:02.500 --> 02:17:04.210
in this climate crisis.
02:17:04.210 --> 02:17:06.740
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen, shame on you.
02:17:06.740 --> 02:17:08.930
You're an accomplice to PG&E's crimes
02:17:08.930 --> 02:17:10.383
and this climate crisis.
02:17:11.270 --> 02:17:13.610
Commissioner Shiroma, shame on you.
02:17:13.610 --> 02:17:15.780
You are an accomplice to PG&E's
02:17:15.780 --> 02:17:18.264
crimes and this climate crisis.
02:17:18.264 --> 02:17:21.610
Commissioner Houck, shame on you.
02:17:21.610 --> 02:17:23.697
You're an accomplice to PG&E's crimes
02:17:23.697 --> 02:17:26.053
and this climate crisis.
02:17:34.040 --> 02:17:36.673
Okay, Operator
the next caller please.
02:17:37.830 --> 02:17:39.880
The next
caller is Daniel Tam,
02:17:39.880 --> 02:17:41.003
your line is now open.
02:17:42.730 --> 02:17:43.563
Thank you very much.
02:17:43.563 --> 02:17:45.470
My name is Daniel Tam.
02:17:45.470 --> 02:17:50.333
I am Chair of Interfaith
Solidarity Network.
02:17:50.333 --> 02:17:55.333
We are a consortium of 54
diverse faith communities.
02:17:57.070 --> 02:18:00.821
We are churches, mosques, synagogues,
02:18:00.821 --> 02:18:05.590
and temples throughout
the San Fernando Valley.
02:18:05.590 --> 02:18:08.507
And I'm calling to support
02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.490
the outreach to CPUC to please
02:18:20.670 --> 02:18:25.670
contain, stop the continued
02:18:29.360 --> 02:18:31.314
movement of SoCalGas
02:18:31.314 --> 02:18:36.314
and applications for oil shippers
02:18:36.350 --> 02:18:40.863
to increase storage
limits on Aliso Canyon.
02:18:40.863 --> 02:18:44.136
So many of our congregations
02:18:44.136 --> 02:18:49.136
are surrounding the
Aliso Canyon Facility
02:18:49.500 --> 02:18:51.490
and they are suffering.
02:18:51.490 --> 02:18:56.180
There are congregants
who have story after story
02:18:56.180 --> 02:18:57.343
of suffering.
02:18:58.217 --> 02:19:01.770
I can say this, I know
that I have two minutes,
02:19:01.770 --> 02:19:05.010
I don't need the two minutes to say that
02:19:05.010 --> 02:19:08.200
every major faith community,
02:19:08.200 --> 02:19:13.200
every major religion rejects the,
02:19:13.864 --> 02:19:14.700
you know,
02:19:14.700 --> 02:19:19.700
profiteering over based
on the suffering of people.
02:19:20.090 --> 02:19:24.762
The suffering of people
must be prioritized.
02:19:24.762 --> 02:19:28.280
The communities must be prioritized.
02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:31.273
We ask you to please reject
02:19:34.285 --> 02:19:38.110
SoCalGas and the oil
shippers application,
02:19:38.110 --> 02:19:40.932
and to shut it down.
02:19:40.932 --> 02:19:44.720
Our, all of our attention
needs to be focused
02:19:44.720 --> 02:19:49.720
on reorienting investment
into clean, renewable energy.
02:19:52.904 --> 02:19:57.120
I don't know how much
more clear it can be.
02:19:57.120 --> 02:19:58.223
Thank you very much.
02:20:01.170 --> 02:20:04.300
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:20:04.300 --> 02:20:07.090
The next
caller is Andrew Sisolak,
02:20:07.090 --> 02:20:08.643
your line is now open.
02:20:10.220 --> 02:20:11.053
Good afternoon
Commissioners,
02:20:11.053 --> 02:20:14.000
and thank you for making
time for my comments.
02:20:14.000 --> 02:20:15.960
I work as the Scout Executive CEO
02:20:15.960 --> 02:20:18.740
of the Verdugo Hills Council
Boy Scouts of America
02:20:18.740 --> 02:20:21.650
Verdugo Hills Council BSA
operates two camp properties
02:20:21.650 --> 02:20:23.760
that are located within
areas that experience
02:20:23.760 --> 02:20:25.640
extremely high fire danger.
02:20:25.640 --> 02:20:27.554
We have Silver Fir on Huntington Lake
02:20:27.554 --> 02:20:30.650
and Sierra National Forest
in Camp Verdugo Oaks,
02:20:30.650 --> 02:20:32.700
in the Los Angeles National Forest.
02:20:32.700 --> 02:20:35.110
In 2020, that Camp Silver Fir
02:20:35.110 --> 02:20:37.140
experienced and near catastrophic loss
02:20:37.140 --> 02:20:38.700
during the Creek fire.
02:20:38.700 --> 02:20:40.767
Multiple structures
were lost on the property
02:20:40.767 --> 02:20:43.130
as well as our access bridge to camp
02:20:43.130 --> 02:20:45.390
and much of the timber on the property.
02:20:45.390 --> 02:20:47.830
Verdugo Hills Council,
it's Board of Directors,
02:20:47.830 --> 02:20:49.870
and the thousands of
youth and adult campers
02:20:49.870 --> 02:20:51.860
that visit our properties every year
02:20:51.860 --> 02:20:54.160
are very concerned for
the continued operations
02:20:54.160 --> 02:20:55.320
of our properties
02:20:55.320 --> 02:20:57.150
and for their stay and
continued enjoyment
02:20:57.150 --> 02:20:58.920
and use of our camp.
02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:01.010
Fire is and will continue
to be one of the most
02:21:01.010 --> 02:21:03.920
significant risks to our
properties, our youth,
02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:06.730
and our mission to
impact youth and family.
02:21:06.730 --> 02:21:08.810
Verdugo Hills Council,
Boy Scouts of America,
02:21:08.810 --> 02:21:11.794
in support of SGE's general
rate increase proposal,
02:21:11.794 --> 02:21:14.580
and SCE's ongoing
efforts through projects
02:21:14.580 --> 02:21:16.632
like the installation
of covered conductors
02:21:16.632 --> 02:21:19.400
to improve our electrical infrastructure
02:21:19.400 --> 02:21:21.380
and mitigate the ongoing threat of fire
02:21:21.380 --> 02:21:22.960
due to climate change.
02:21:22.960 --> 02:21:25.884
We encourage The Commission
to support SCE's proposal
02:21:25.884 --> 02:21:28.670
and would offer that
while rate increases
02:21:28.670 --> 02:21:30.300
are never appreciated,
02:21:30.300 --> 02:21:34.110
the cost of insurance and
insuring commercial properties
02:21:34.110 --> 02:21:36.930
far outweighs the cost of increases
02:21:36.930 --> 02:21:40.910
to secure property and
ensure safety performance.
02:21:40.910 --> 02:21:42.510
Thank you so much.
02:21:44.000 --> 02:21:46.343
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:21:47.210 --> 02:21:49.160
The next
caller is Morgan Fowler,
02:21:49.160 --> 02:21:50.550
your line is now open.
02:21:52.960 --> 02:21:54.393
Hi, can you hear me?
02:21:55.560 --> 02:21:57.520
Yes, we can, please go ahead.
02:21:57.520 --> 02:21:58.353
Okay, great.
02:21:58.353 --> 02:21:59.460
My name is Morgan Fowler.
02:21:59.460 --> 02:22:02.110
I have lived on and off in Granada Hills
02:22:02.110 --> 02:22:03.672
for the last 15 years.
02:22:03.672 --> 02:22:07.220
and I'm calling today to urge
you to reject the increase at
02:22:07.220 --> 02:22:10.027
the Aliso Canyon Gas Storage Facility.
02:22:10.027 --> 02:22:13.500
I sort of want to take a
different approach and just say
02:22:13.500 --> 02:22:14.850
that for the past five years,
02:22:14.850 --> 02:22:17.940
we've been living through
several different crises,
02:22:17.940 --> 02:22:21.790
presidential racial class,
climate housing attacks
02:22:21.790 --> 02:22:23.260
on our democracy.
02:22:23.260 --> 02:22:26.344
They've been playing nonstop
in all facets of our media
02:22:26.344 --> 02:22:28.173
and this blowout,
02:22:28.173 --> 02:22:31.790
this consistent perpetual leak of poison
02:22:31.790 --> 02:22:35.495
in our air and our
communities is just as important.
02:22:35.495 --> 02:22:37.920
I would ask you all to consider that
02:22:37.920 --> 02:22:39.480
each crisis I have listed
02:22:39.480 --> 02:22:42.380
has been a cancer to
this country and our world.
02:22:42.380 --> 02:22:46.280
For some, for hundreds of
years, others are more recent,
02:22:46.280 --> 02:22:47.640
but citizens, Americans
02:22:47.640 --> 02:22:50.440
and people all around the
world are calling times up.
02:22:50.440 --> 02:22:52.002
And it's only a matter of time before
02:22:52.002 --> 02:22:56.653
the time is up for the Aliso
Canyon Gas Storage Facility.
02:22:57.650 --> 02:23:00.730
It's only a matter of time
before these tireless work
02:23:00.730 --> 02:23:03.850
of these activists are
brought to the forefront.
02:23:03.850 --> 02:23:04.960
So please,
02:23:04.960 --> 02:23:07.230
I ask that you be on
the right side of history
02:23:07.230 --> 02:23:09.000
beyond the right side of the news.
02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:11.700
Reject the increase Aliso is proposing.
02:23:11.700 --> 02:23:14.410
This gas has just killed my pet.
02:23:14.410 --> 02:23:18.370
It's left my parents
with health ailments
02:23:18.370 --> 02:23:20.587
that they'll probably have
for the rest of their lives
02:23:20.587 --> 02:23:23.357
and I'm calling time's up, thank you.
02:23:25.570 --> 02:23:27.010
Thank you.
02:23:27.010 --> 02:23:29.520
Operator the next caller please.
02:23:29.520 --> 02:23:32.340
The next
caller is Kathy Tavoularis,
02:23:32.340 --> 02:23:33.943
your line is now open.
02:23:35.670 --> 02:23:38.977
Thank you,
this is Kathy Tavoularis
02:23:38.977 --> 02:23:41.090
and I'm a Councilwoman
for the City of Orange
02:23:41.090 --> 02:23:42.530
and Orange County.
02:23:42.530 --> 02:23:45.630
I'm calling regarding The
Commission's proposed decision
02:23:45.630 --> 02:23:48.750
on Edison's 2021 GRC.
02:23:48.750 --> 02:23:52.520
Orange is located in a
high fire threat district.
02:23:52.520 --> 02:23:53.600
The proposed decision,
02:23:53.600 --> 02:23:56.810
as it now stands would
authorize less than half the funding
02:23:56.810 --> 02:23:58.700
for Edison's most
important and effective
02:23:58.700 --> 02:24:00.790
wildfire mitigation program,
02:24:00.790 --> 02:24:02.950
installation of covered conductors.
02:24:02.950 --> 02:24:05.280
And it would cripple their
ability to protect the safety
02:24:05.280 --> 02:24:06.480
of the cities they serve,
02:24:06.480 --> 02:24:08.400
one of which is Orange.
02:24:08.400 --> 02:24:11.980
That this proposed decision
02:24:11.980 --> 02:24:14.630
proposes dramatic cuts to cover
02:24:14.630 --> 02:24:16.870
conductors base on affordability.
02:24:16.870 --> 02:24:18.463
Given that understanding,
02:24:19.960 --> 02:24:21.960
given that undergrounding
is far more expensive
02:24:21.960 --> 02:24:23.780
and much more slower to implement
02:24:23.780 --> 02:24:26.490
that will leave Edison with
only public safety power shutoff
02:24:26.490 --> 02:24:27.840
for reducing the fire risk
02:24:27.840 --> 02:24:29.440
of our overhead circuits
02:24:29.440 --> 02:24:31.380
during extreme weather conditions.
02:24:31.380 --> 02:24:32.800
As the Governor and this Commission
02:24:32.800 --> 02:24:34.890
continue to warn of climate change,
02:24:34.890 --> 02:24:37.040
please reconsider this proposed decision
02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:39.320
and increase the funding
to covered conductors,
02:24:39.320 --> 02:24:42.450
to help California City
survive during this climate
02:24:42.450 --> 02:24:44.750
inclement weather and what it causes.
02:24:44.750 --> 02:24:47.840
Our utilities need the tools
to protect their communities
02:24:47.840 --> 02:24:50.110
and continue to fulfill the Governor's
02:24:50.110 --> 02:24:52.550
and this Commission's
commitment to help climate change.
02:24:52.550 --> 02:24:53.383
Thank you.
02:24:55.580 --> 02:24:57.180
Thank you.
02:24:57.180 --> 02:24:58.780
Operator the next caller please.
02:25:05.860 --> 02:25:07.733
Operator, next caller please.
02:25:11.720 --> 02:25:13.730
The next
caller is Luis Portillo,
02:25:13.730 --> 02:25:15.123
your line is now open.
02:25:17.550 --> 02:25:19.510
Thank you, good day,
my name is Louis Portillo.
02:25:19.510 --> 02:25:20.760
I'm speaking on behalf of
02:25:20.760 --> 02:25:23.003
the Inland Empire Economic Partnership.
02:25:23.003 --> 02:25:25.730
I'd like to voice our concern
with the proposed decision
02:25:25.730 --> 02:25:28.449
for Southern California
Edison's General Rate Case,
02:25:28.449 --> 02:25:32.120
especially as they will
authorize less than half
02:25:32.120 --> 02:25:33.730
of the funding that SCE has requested
02:25:33.730 --> 02:25:36.000
for the installation of
covered conductors.
02:25:36.000 --> 02:25:36.833
You know,
02:25:36.833 --> 02:25:39.583
fundamental requirement
of any energy system
02:25:39.583 --> 02:25:42.863
must be that it is resilient,
reliable, and affordable.
02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:46.210
The public safety power
shutoffs in our region,
02:25:46.210 --> 02:25:47.600
our regional experience have undermined
02:25:47.600 --> 02:25:50.980
the principle of our electric
system being reliable.
02:25:50.980 --> 02:25:52.530
And while we recognize
that it's the reality
02:25:52.530 --> 02:25:55.450
of the types of mitigation
efforts that need to be done
02:25:55.450 --> 02:25:56.953
in order to avoid greater damage,
02:25:56.953 --> 02:25:59.020
we were heartened by SCE's proposal
02:25:59.020 --> 02:26:00.370
to strengthen their system
02:26:00.370 --> 02:26:02.510
and reduce the need for power shut offs.
02:26:02.510 --> 02:26:04.403
However, decisions
undermine those efforts
02:26:04.403 --> 02:26:07.990
by having such a massive
reduction in funding.
02:26:07.990 --> 02:26:09.302
There are only three ways to mitigate,
02:26:09.302 --> 02:26:12.670
significantly mitigate the
risk of fire on power lines
02:26:12.670 --> 02:26:14.890
with covered, insulated conductors,
02:26:14.890 --> 02:26:17.230
which is the most cost
effective way to quickly
02:26:17.230 --> 02:26:19.580
and effectively and
permanently reduce the risk,
02:26:19.580 --> 02:26:21.140
two to underground the lines,
02:26:21.140 --> 02:26:22.930
which is about eight
times more expensive
02:26:22.930 --> 02:26:24.210
and it takes years to implement
02:26:24.210 --> 02:26:27.931
or three with power safety shutoffs.
02:26:27.931 --> 02:26:29.390
So a proposed decision proposes,
02:26:29.390 --> 02:26:32.230
these dramatic costs
to cut cover conductors
02:26:32.230 --> 02:26:33.920
based on affordability.
02:26:33.920 --> 02:26:35.890
However, undergrounding
is far more expensive
02:26:35.890 --> 02:26:38.860
and much slower and
power and public safety
02:26:38.860 --> 02:26:41.370
power shutoffs should not
be considered an appropriate
02:26:41.370 --> 02:26:43.580
alternative to investing in the grid.
02:26:43.580 --> 02:26:45.090
I know that for some of the urban areas,
02:26:45.090 --> 02:26:45.923
they may never have had
02:26:45.923 --> 02:26:47.350
to deal with public
safety power shutoffs,
02:26:47.350 --> 02:26:49.582
and even the part we have,
02:26:49.582 --> 02:26:51.270
we felt that we have seen them
02:26:51.270 --> 02:26:53.830
disrupt our communities
for hours, even days.
02:26:53.830 --> 02:26:55.140
We urge you to reject the cut,
02:26:55.140 --> 02:26:56.670
proposed cutting in funding,
02:26:56.670 --> 02:26:59.400
and provide our utility
with the tools they need
02:26:59.400 --> 02:27:01.800
to strengthen the
reliability of our grid.
02:27:01.800 --> 02:27:02.633
Thank you.
02:27:04.730 --> 02:27:07.433
Thank you, Operator
the next caller, please.
02:27:08.310 --> 02:27:10.700
The next caller
is Thomas Manuel Trebeki,
02:27:10.700 --> 02:27:12.113
your line is now open.
02:27:14.490 --> 02:27:16.280
Hi, can you hear me?
02:27:16.280 --> 02:27:19.003
Yes, we can hear
you fine, thank you.
02:27:19.003 --> 02:27:20.970
Hi, my name is
Tomas Manuel Trebeky
02:27:20.970 --> 02:27:22.210
and I'm calling from Ventura
02:27:22.210 --> 02:27:24.610
with the Westside Clean Air Coalition.
02:27:24.610 --> 02:27:27.510
I live a few blocks from the
compressor station with my kids
02:27:27.510 --> 02:27:29.030
who also attend the elementary school
02:27:29.030 --> 02:27:30.570
right across the street.
02:27:30.570 --> 02:27:32.650
We stand in solidarity with
the Porter Ranch community
02:27:32.650 --> 02:27:33.990
and all of the communities impacted
02:27:33.990 --> 02:27:37.010
by the Aliso Canyon
Storage Facility and leaks.
02:27:37.010 --> 02:27:41.010
The CPUC needs to reject SoCalGas,
02:27:41.010 --> 02:27:43.730
that application to
increase storage limits
02:27:43.730 --> 02:27:45.970
on Aliso Canyon and instead
focus on shutting it down
02:27:45.970 --> 02:27:47.907
just like Governor Newsom has directed.
02:27:47.907 --> 02:27:51.370
The CPUC also needs to stop
this SoCalGas Compressor Station
02:27:51.370 --> 02:27:53.180
expansion in our
neighborhood and shut down
02:27:53.180 --> 02:27:54.610
the Playa Del Rey storage facility
02:27:54.610 --> 02:27:56.899
as directed by the L.A. City Council.
02:27:56.899 --> 02:27:59.894
It's great you're demanding more info
02:27:59.894 --> 02:28:02.690
from Southern California Gas
02:28:02.690 --> 02:28:04.580
about the compressor expansion, but we,
02:28:04.580 --> 02:28:07.100
we don't need another
dog and pony show hearing.
02:28:07.100 --> 02:28:08.620
They've done them in the past.
02:28:08.620 --> 02:28:10.360
We already had one,
they avoid the questions,
02:28:10.360 --> 02:28:11.960
they don't answer the questions.
02:28:11.960 --> 02:28:14.760
What we need you to
do is to demand an EIR,
02:28:14.760 --> 02:28:15.647
a health impact assessment
02:28:15.647 --> 02:28:18.668
and an independent alternative analysis.
02:28:18.668 --> 02:28:21.100
There needs to be a stop work order
02:28:21.100 --> 02:28:23.020
because they're pushing
forward with this project
02:28:23.020 --> 02:28:24.420
even when they don't
even have the permits,
02:28:24.420 --> 02:28:26.520
we've already caught
them prematurely digging
02:28:26.520 --> 02:28:29.801
and going forward with
the project a couple of times.
02:28:29.801 --> 02:28:32.840
We recently had a blow down
of gas into our community,
02:28:32.840 --> 02:28:34.620
at the beginning of July.
02:28:34.620 --> 02:28:36.570
It took half of our
city's fire resources
02:28:36.570 --> 02:28:37.808
just to respond to the leak,
02:28:37.808 --> 02:28:41.190
which SoCalGas never even
informed the community about
02:28:41.190 --> 02:28:42.140
or the fire department.
02:28:42.140 --> 02:28:43.740
So they had to go on a wild goose chase
02:28:43.740 --> 02:28:46.760
to discover the leak was
coming from their facility.
02:28:46.760 --> 02:28:48.888
We need those resources
to be responding to fire,
02:28:48.888 --> 02:28:52.110
not SoCalGas polluting
and gassing our community.
02:28:52.110 --> 02:28:54.220
These blow-downs
happened multiple times a year
02:28:54.220 --> 02:28:56.415
and this one in July
was just 1/10 of the size
02:28:56.415 --> 02:28:58.160
of a normal blow-down.
02:28:58.160 --> 02:29:00.716
It still caused dozens of calls to 911
02:29:00.716 --> 02:29:03.530
and serious health effects
to many of our neighbors.
02:29:03.530 --> 02:29:06.140
Residents suffered bloody
noses, headaches for days,
02:29:06.140 --> 02:29:09.523
and some live even half
mile or further from that site.
02:29:10.560 --> 02:29:12.550
We've been suffering from
these kinds of health effects
02:29:12.550 --> 02:29:14.040
from the compressor station for decades,
02:29:14.040 --> 02:29:15.320
and they've been recorded.
02:29:15.320 --> 02:29:16.870
And our kids are the ones
who are impacted most
02:29:16.870 --> 02:29:20.260
and they're first impacted by
being right across the street.
02:29:20.260 --> 02:29:21.867
So there needs to be an EIR,
02:29:21.867 --> 02:29:23.370
the health impact assessment,
02:29:23.370 --> 02:29:24.850
an independent alternative analysis
02:29:24.850 --> 02:29:26.640
to the expansion proposal.
02:29:26.640 --> 02:29:27.900
The blow-downs won't end
02:29:27.900 --> 02:29:30.580
if they build a new compressor.
02:29:30.580 --> 02:29:33.060
So please, we need you to do more.
02:29:33.060 --> 02:29:33.893
My children, our neighborhood,
02:29:33.893 --> 02:29:36.537
and our future generations
are all counting on y'all.
02:29:38.150 --> 02:29:38.983
Thank you.
02:29:38.983 --> 02:29:41.348
Operator the next caller please.
02:29:41.348 --> 02:29:42.290
The next caller
02:29:42.290 --> 02:29:44.250
is Council Member Damon Alexander,
02:29:44.250 --> 02:29:45.350
your line is now open.
02:29:50.721 --> 02:29:52.800
[Council Member
Damon] Good morning.
02:29:52.800 --> 02:29:55.015
Madam President and Council.
02:29:55.015 --> 02:29:58.413
I appreciate you taking my call.
02:30:00.380 --> 02:30:05.100
I would just like to
ask you to fully fund
02:30:05.100 --> 02:30:07.460
SCE's most important and effective
02:30:07.460 --> 02:30:09.810
wildfire mitigation program.
02:30:09.810 --> 02:30:13.405
I believe it's the installation
of covered conductors.
02:30:13.405 --> 02:30:17.800
Please take, many
of our communities live
02:30:17.800 --> 02:30:20.870
in a high fire threat
district, I being one of them
02:30:20.870 --> 02:30:23.350
and I represent 35,000 residents
02:30:23.350 --> 02:30:24.620
of the city of San Bernardino
02:30:24.620 --> 02:30:26.740
which I am a Council Member.
02:30:26.740 --> 02:30:28.240
If you could please do that,
02:30:28.240 --> 02:30:30.689
it would prevent the many needs of
02:30:30.689 --> 02:30:33.810
doing public safety power shutoffs,
02:30:33.810 --> 02:30:36.306
which occur all the time in my area,
02:30:36.306 --> 02:30:41.306
which drives the health
and safety of our residents
02:30:42.195 --> 02:30:44.000
that have breathing machines
02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:47.567
and other machines
that rely on these on SCE.
02:30:48.890 --> 02:30:50.770
There are many tools that can
02:30:50.770 --> 02:30:52.310
significantly mitigate this risk,
02:30:52.310 --> 02:30:54.170
covered conductors is one of them
02:30:54.170 --> 02:30:55.730
and I believe the most effective
02:30:55.730 --> 02:30:59.943
and efficient and permanent
way to reduce the risk.
02:30:59.943 --> 02:31:02.420
Undergrounding lines
is not a cost effective.
02:31:02.420 --> 02:31:06.370
I asked my own public works
because I didn't believe SCE.
02:31:06.370 --> 02:31:08.140
They told me that it's eight times.
02:31:08.140 --> 02:31:12.280
So please, please
fully fund the conductor
02:31:13.370 --> 02:31:15.159
portion of this wildfire mitigation.
02:31:15.159 --> 02:31:17.220
As a publicly elected official,
02:31:17.220 --> 02:31:19.620
I am directly responsible for the lives,
02:31:19.620 --> 02:31:23.980
health and safety of the
people which I represent.
02:31:23.980 --> 02:31:24.872
If I could,
02:31:24.872 --> 02:31:27.740
I would vote to pass
the additional funding
02:31:27.740 --> 02:31:29.840
to complete this project.
02:31:29.840 --> 02:31:31.030
I would.
02:31:31.030 --> 02:31:34.991
And as they tell me on the
dais, as late as last night,
02:31:34.991 --> 02:31:37.339
you are now responsible.
02:31:37.339 --> 02:31:40.460
So please fellow Commissioners,
02:31:40.460 --> 02:31:43.820
you have the power to fully fund this.
02:31:43.820 --> 02:31:46.680
We had five events last year
02:31:46.680 --> 02:31:50.773
for an average of 18 hours of outages.
02:31:51.660 --> 02:31:53.160
That is unacceptable.
02:31:53.160 --> 02:31:55.650
I know you think that's unacceptable.
02:31:55.650 --> 02:31:58.540
Please fully fund this conductor program
02:31:58.540 --> 02:32:01.187
to wildfire mitigation, thank you.
02:32:04.231 --> 02:32:06.400
Thank you Councilman.
02:32:06.400 --> 02:32:08.093
Operator the next caller please.
02:32:09.510 --> 02:32:11.580
The next
caller is Darryl Gale,
02:32:11.580 --> 02:32:12.903
your line is now open.
02:32:15.360 --> 02:32:17.460
Good afternoon
I'm Darryl Gale.
02:32:18.460 --> 02:32:23.460
Toxic methane air
pollution affects all of us.
02:32:23.660 --> 02:32:28.510
It's not clean or safe
and it's not natural.
02:32:28.510 --> 02:32:30.516
Contrary to what SoCalGas,
02:32:30.516 --> 02:32:34.123
keep incessantly and falsely promoting.
02:32:36.110 --> 02:32:38.130
They have, don't forget
they have constantly,
02:32:38.130 --> 02:32:41.210
a recent one in the City of Ventura
02:32:41.210 --> 02:32:43.547
just a few weeks ago.
02:32:43.547 --> 02:32:47.860
For how long do SoCalGas get to
02:32:47.860 --> 02:32:52.830
sicken our population, traps
more greenhouse gases,
02:32:52.830 --> 02:32:55.100
increased our heat level
02:32:55.100 --> 02:32:58.960
and holding and trapping,
yet more air pollution
02:32:58.960 --> 02:33:03.017
and drying out our land, our trees
02:33:03.017 --> 02:33:08.017
and potentially starting
even more wild fires.
02:33:09.110 --> 02:33:14.110
And now they want
to increase their toxic,
02:33:14.270 --> 02:33:17.223
methane storage at Aliso?
02:33:20.790 --> 02:33:24.401
How can we ever trust them?
02:33:24.401 --> 02:33:27.223
Reject their rate theft.
02:33:31.800 --> 02:33:32.633
Thank you.
02:33:32.633 --> 02:33:34.870
Operator the next caller please.
02:33:34.870 --> 02:33:36.710
The next
caller is Jennifer Ward,
02:33:36.710 --> 02:33:38.063
your line is now open.
02:33:41.720 --> 02:33:44.503
Hi, good afternoon
Members of The Commission.
02:33:44.503 --> 02:33:46.020
My name is Jennifer Ward,
02:33:46.020 --> 02:33:47.250
and I'm speaking on behalf of the
02:33:47.250 --> 02:33:48.800
Orange County Business Council.
02:33:50.750 --> 02:33:52.130
I appreciate the opportunity
02:33:52.130 --> 02:33:54.450
and thank you for your
consideration of my comments,
02:33:54.450 --> 02:33:56.940
which are, as you've already heard,
02:33:56.940 --> 02:33:58.540
in regards to the proposed decision
02:33:58.540 --> 02:34:02.050
for Southern California Edison's
2021 General Rate Case.
02:34:02.050 --> 02:34:03.030
As I know you all know, and,
02:34:03.030 --> 02:34:05.100
and we've heard a lot today already,
02:34:05.100 --> 02:34:08.940
a reliable infrastructure for
providing consistent energy
02:34:08.940 --> 02:34:11.470
to Orange County's
3.2 million residents,
02:34:11.470 --> 02:34:14.660
not only critically
important for public safety,
02:34:14.660 --> 02:34:17.640
but also for the productivity
of the businesses here
02:34:17.640 --> 02:34:18.820
that make Orange County
02:34:18.820 --> 02:34:21.383
one of the most competitive
economies in the world.
02:34:22.689 --> 02:34:25.990
Ensuring that grid is
better protected against
02:34:25.990 --> 02:34:27.440
growing threats of wildfire
02:34:27.440 --> 02:34:30.070
and other events
exacerbated by climate change
02:34:30.070 --> 02:34:32.080
is so important to our
business community
02:34:32.080 --> 02:34:34.300
and economic resiliency.
02:34:34.300 --> 02:34:35.560
You already heard some,
02:34:35.560 --> 02:34:37.560
some really compelling data earlier from
02:34:37.560 --> 02:34:39.519
Orange County's Fire Chief.
02:34:39.519 --> 02:34:42.510
And so this is why I strongly
urge The Commission
02:34:42.510 --> 02:34:44.650
to consider modifying
the proposed decision
02:34:44.650 --> 02:34:46.470
and enable Southern California Edison
02:34:46.470 --> 02:34:48.386
to complete its covered
conductor project
02:34:48.386 --> 02:34:50.500
and related grid hardening efforts,
02:34:50.500 --> 02:34:52.079
which are so important to prevent
02:34:52.079 --> 02:34:54.670
both disruptive PSPS events,
02:34:54.670 --> 02:34:58.618
but also mitigate the threat
of devastating wildfires.
02:34:58.618 --> 02:35:01.820
Southern California continues
to grow and our communities
02:35:01.820 --> 02:35:03.910
are working hard to
address another crisis
02:35:03.910 --> 02:35:06.590
impacting California,
our housing crisis.
02:35:06.590 --> 02:35:08.910
So it's critical that the
infrastructure serving
02:35:08.910 --> 02:35:10.680
oddly needed new developments,
02:35:10.680 --> 02:35:13.869
be safe and updated to
protect both current and future
02:35:13.869 --> 02:35:17.500
residents and businesses
against the avoidable potential
02:35:17.500 --> 02:35:18.520
for fires to start.
02:35:18.520 --> 02:35:20.803
Thank you and hope you
have a great rest of your day.
02:35:22.640 --> 02:35:25.693
Thank you, Operator
next caller please.
02:35:26.710 --> 02:35:28.950
The next
caller is Marcia Hanscom,
02:35:28.950 --> 02:35:30.393
your line is now open.
02:35:32.158 --> 02:35:35.050
Honorable
Commissioner, Marcia Hanscom.
02:35:35.050 --> 02:35:36.560
I'm on the Executive Committee of the
02:35:36.560 --> 02:35:38.168
Sierra Club Los Angeles Chapter
02:35:38.168 --> 02:35:41.000
and I chair the Bio Weapons Committee.
02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:43.958
Sierra Club has been working
to close down the dangerous
02:35:43.958 --> 02:35:48.140
and toxic Playa Del
Rey Gas Storage Facility
02:35:48.140 --> 02:35:49.870
that is leaking like a sieve.
02:35:49.870 --> 02:35:52.598
And it's contributing to
the climate change impacts
02:35:52.598 --> 02:35:55.130
that Ms. Boucher spoke about.
02:35:55.130 --> 02:35:57.169
We are in a climate emergency.
02:35:57.169 --> 02:36:00.746
It is irresponsible for
the CPUC to continue
02:36:00.746 --> 02:36:04.830
to allow this plant
to pipe in fracked gas
02:36:04.830 --> 02:36:07.672
from Oklahoma, Texas, and Colorado,
02:36:07.672 --> 02:36:11.310
then use more than 200
chemicals in the operation
02:36:11.310 --> 02:36:14.546
to inject that gas, a mile
above Ballona Wetlands,
02:36:14.546 --> 02:36:18.530
extract it and then clean
it up to send to customers.
02:36:18.530 --> 02:36:20.860
Think of all of the
emissions in this process,
02:36:20.860 --> 02:36:24.050
let alone the gas emissions
you are continuing to enable
02:36:24.050 --> 02:36:26.801
and contribute to
climate change impacts.
02:36:26.801 --> 02:36:31.560
Please stop and start with
Playa Del Rey and Aliso Canyon.
02:36:31.560 --> 02:36:34.490
Close them down within
the next year, please.
02:36:34.490 --> 02:36:36.230
Instead, the State is supporting
02:36:36.230 --> 02:36:37.990
a horribly destructive project
02:36:37.990 --> 02:36:38.943
at the Ballona Wetlands,
02:36:38.943 --> 02:36:41.472
a project that would benefit SoCalGas
02:36:41.472 --> 02:36:44.770
and enable they're adding
new fossil fuel infrastructure
02:36:44.770 --> 02:36:46.130
to the facility.
02:36:46.130 --> 02:36:48.850
That's the opposite
direction we need to go.
02:36:48.850 --> 02:36:51.060
Again please prioritize closing.
02:36:51.060 --> 02:36:53.813
Playa Del Rey and Aliso
Canyon move to close
02:36:53.813 --> 02:36:56.810
the Ventura Compressor Station as well
02:36:56.810 --> 02:37:00.430
and please prioritize
getting an action plan
02:37:00.430 --> 02:37:01.940
moving forward.
02:37:01.940 --> 02:37:03.960
Mary Beth Trautwein from Protect Play
02:37:03.960 --> 02:37:06.050
now waited for more
than two hours to speak
02:37:06.050 --> 02:37:08.710
and asked that I include
her in my comments.
02:37:08.710 --> 02:37:12.290
Protect Play now also wants
the SoCalGas Storage Facility
02:37:12.290 --> 02:37:15.223
at the Ballona Wetlands
shut down as soon as possible.
02:37:15.223 --> 02:37:16.056
Thank you.
02:37:19.627 --> 02:37:20.522
Thank you.
02:37:20.522 --> 02:37:22.403
Operator next caller please.
02:37:23.290 --> 02:37:25.360
The next
caller is Kip Drubeck,
02:37:25.360 --> 02:37:26.893
your line is now open.
02:37:28.950 --> 02:37:30.810
Yes, hello everybody.
02:37:30.810 --> 02:37:33.050
Well, you can tell we're dedicated
02:37:33.050 --> 02:37:35.246
to our community because
I have been waiting here
02:37:35.246 --> 02:37:37.130
for three hours waiting to speak.
02:37:37.130 --> 02:37:40.130
So I'm very happy to be
able to address everybody.
02:37:40.130 --> 02:37:42.980
I am calling from Chatsworth Lake Manor,
02:37:42.980 --> 02:37:45.350
a very small unincorporated area
02:37:45.350 --> 02:37:48.649
in the Northwest corner
of Los Angeles County.
02:37:48.649 --> 02:37:51.520
We happen to have the
dubious distinction of being
02:37:51.520 --> 02:37:53.950
one of the most burned out communities.
02:37:53.950 --> 02:37:57.341
We also have the distinction
of having the most shut down
02:37:57.341 --> 02:37:59.027
power circuit,
02:37:59.027 --> 02:38:04.027
the energy circuit in the
SCE power infrastructure.
02:38:04.310 --> 02:38:07.960
We have been working
with SCE quite intensively
02:38:07.960 --> 02:38:11.410
since the Woolsey fire,
02:38:11.410 --> 02:38:15.960
where the PSPS shutdowns
began in our community,
02:38:15.960 --> 02:38:17.730
where we were shut
down during high weather.
02:38:17.730 --> 02:38:22.730
So I'm speaking in favor of
the covered conductor program
02:38:23.030 --> 02:38:26.713
that SCE has implemented
on their own volition.
02:38:27.800 --> 02:38:31.150
They were instructed to take measures
02:38:31.150 --> 02:38:33.233
to secure their system.
02:38:33.233 --> 02:38:37.490
They've gone ahead
and per their comments
02:38:40.870 --> 02:38:45.470
insulated something
like 1700 miles of lines,
02:38:45.470 --> 02:38:48.820
or we'll have that complete
by the end of this year.
02:38:48.820 --> 02:38:50.240
We are one of the communities
02:38:50.240 --> 02:38:51.760
that was in the forefront of that.
02:38:51.760 --> 02:38:54.400
We're nearly complete in our community.
02:38:54.400 --> 02:38:59.170
I can tell you that this
has made Lake Manor
02:38:59.170 --> 02:39:02.450
one of the safer areas because of that,
02:39:02.450 --> 02:39:07.450
we can have confidence
that we will have fewer PSPS
02:39:07.490 --> 02:39:08.690
as they won't be eliminated
02:39:08.690 --> 02:39:12.410
because of the unpredictable
nature of conditions
02:39:12.410 --> 02:39:13.770
that create them.
02:39:13.770 --> 02:39:16.651
But I will urge the Power Commission
02:39:16.651 --> 02:39:18.856
or the Public Utilities Commission
02:39:18.856 --> 02:39:23.856
to rescind their opposition
to the full program.
02:39:24.918 --> 02:39:28.230
The arguments presented
that I've been able to see
02:39:28.230 --> 02:39:30.580
were only submitted by turn,
02:39:30.580 --> 02:39:35.088
which has a model that
we feel is not sufficient.
02:39:35.088 --> 02:39:38.228
It's based on a fire damage
02:39:38.228 --> 02:39:41.160
after six hours of wildfire.
02:39:41.160 --> 02:39:45.900
We all know that while
the longer the Woolsey fire,
02:39:45.900 --> 02:39:48.260
the Thomas fire were $10 billion
02:39:48.260 --> 02:39:51.390
that's a cost that cannot be born,
02:39:51.390 --> 02:39:55.960
and this is a cost effective
measure to secure our systems.
02:39:55.960 --> 02:39:56.993
Thank you very much.
02:39:59.030 --> 02:40:01.573
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:40:01.573 --> 02:40:04.110
The next
color is Mark Carol,
02:40:04.110 --> 02:40:05.583
your line is now open.
02:40:11.060 --> 02:40:13.203
Mark Carol please
check your mute button.
02:40:15.060 --> 02:40:16.580
Well, thank you.
02:40:16.580 --> 02:40:17.730
My name is Mark Carroll.
02:40:17.730 --> 02:40:20.600
I'm the President and CEO
of Breathe Southern California
02:40:22.610 --> 02:40:24.770
Breathe SoCal strongly
supports full funding
02:40:24.770 --> 02:40:26.590
for the General Rate Case Application
02:40:26.590 --> 02:40:28.698
having been submitted by
Southern California Edison
02:40:28.698 --> 02:40:32.430
and under consideration by the CPUC,
02:40:32.430 --> 02:40:34.640
this legislative session,
02:40:34.640 --> 02:40:38.240
Breathe SoCal introduced
assembly bill 619
02:40:38.240 --> 02:40:40.220
to protect Californians from the harmful
02:40:40.220 --> 02:40:42.620
health effects of wildfire smoke.
02:40:42.620 --> 02:40:45.300
Researchers have found
that particles in wildfire smoke
02:40:45.300 --> 02:40:47.516
are up to 10 times more
damaging to humans
02:40:47.516 --> 02:40:49.730
than particles released
from other sources,
02:40:49.730 --> 02:40:51.170
including vehicles.
02:40:51.170 --> 02:40:54.915
We know that wildfire smoke is just,
02:40:54.915 --> 02:40:59.915
is an additional impact
health impact on individuals
02:41:00.954 --> 02:41:03.500
other than the property damage
02:41:03.500 --> 02:41:05.725
and of course the damage to life.
02:41:05.725 --> 02:41:09.950
But it impacts even
more people than those,
02:41:09.950 --> 02:41:13.883
because the particle pollution is,
02:41:14.860 --> 02:41:16.260
blows all the way
02:41:19.520 --> 02:41:22.260
in the air, all the way
to the East Coast.
02:41:22.260 --> 02:41:24.764
We've seen that last
week with some of the
02:41:24.764 --> 02:41:28.593
particle pollution reaching
Maine from California.
02:41:29.460 --> 02:41:32.940
Smoke from burning forest
contains hundreds of chemicals
02:41:32.940 --> 02:41:34.403
destroyed by the fires.
02:41:35.880 --> 02:41:37.700
Smoke from burning houses and buildings
02:41:37.700 --> 02:41:39.821
contains even more toxic chemicals.
02:41:39.821 --> 02:41:44.690
And so we know that this is an extremely
02:41:44.690 --> 02:41:47.547
toxic and damaging pollution.
02:41:50.710 --> 02:41:53.330
Breathe SoCal strongly
encourages the CPUC
02:41:53.330 --> 02:41:56.210
to fully fund SCE's GRC,
02:41:56.210 --> 02:41:58.066
which will significantly improve
02:41:58.066 --> 02:42:00.221
our wildfire mitigation efforts
02:42:00.221 --> 02:42:02.510
in the Southern California region.
02:42:02.510 --> 02:42:04.530
By addressing the threat of wildfires.
02:42:04.530 --> 02:42:07.050
You're also addressing
the public health risks
02:42:07.050 --> 02:42:08.885
posed by wildfire smoke,
02:42:08.885 --> 02:42:13.885
and we appreciate your
consideration of our comments.
02:42:15.118 --> 02:42:17.801
Thank you.
02:42:17.801 --> 02:42:18.634
Thank you.
02:42:18.634 --> 02:42:20.803
Operator the next caller please.
02:42:21.680 --> 02:42:24.160
The next caller
is Christopher Kilpatrick,
02:42:24.160 --> 02:42:25.653
your line is now open.
02:42:26.581 --> 02:42:27.414
Good morning,
02:42:27.414 --> 02:42:29.160
my name is Christopher Kilpatrick,
02:42:29.160 --> 02:42:30.790
Crescenta Valley Town Council.
02:42:30.790 --> 02:42:32.090
The Crescenta Valley is located
02:42:32.090 --> 02:42:34.345
at the Northern portion
of Los Angeles County.
02:42:34.345 --> 02:42:36.490
It's about 3.4 square miles,
02:42:36.490 --> 02:42:38.777
and about 20,000 residents live here.
02:42:38.777 --> 02:42:41.630
The majority of our
community is within the
02:42:43.210 --> 02:42:44.722
wildfire hazard zone.
02:42:44.722 --> 02:42:48.501
We've been subject to several
wildfires with evacuations,
02:42:48.501 --> 02:42:49.760
and when that occurs,
02:42:49.760 --> 02:42:52.003
the entire community
essentially shuts down.
02:42:53.093 --> 02:42:57.483
This is not only a danger to
a homes, it's a danger to life.
02:42:58.450 --> 02:43:02.015
Access is very, very poor
into our neighborhood.
02:43:02.015 --> 02:43:05.263
Fire resources have a lot
of issues getting up there.
02:43:07.370 --> 02:43:10.870
We support full funding
of any mitigation efforts
02:43:10.870 --> 02:43:13.154
that be accomplished right away.
02:43:13.154 --> 02:43:16.531
Obviously in the long-term
there's some strategies
02:43:16.531 --> 02:43:18.043
like underground,
02:43:19.630 --> 02:43:22.487
more locally generated
electricity like solar
02:43:22.487 --> 02:43:23.820
and that kind of thing.
02:43:23.820 --> 02:43:26.540
But we need a solution right now.
02:43:26.540 --> 02:43:30.240
We're not advocating for
any major rate increases,
02:43:30.240 --> 02:43:32.630
but we do think that this
needs to be taken into account
02:43:32.630 --> 02:43:34.270
and it's worth noting.
02:43:34.270 --> 02:43:35.240
I understand you've heard
02:43:35.240 --> 02:43:37.150
from a lot of people regarding this.
02:43:37.150 --> 02:43:39.154
It's worth noting that
not a single person
02:43:39.154 --> 02:43:41.580
at this meeting has advocated
02:43:41.580 --> 02:43:43.460
for not insulating these lines
02:43:43.460 --> 02:43:46.800
and for not doing all
the full mitigation efforts.
02:43:46.800 --> 02:43:49.630
Frankly, we consider
the 6,000 mile proposal
02:43:49.630 --> 02:43:51.210
to be a down payment
02:43:51.210 --> 02:43:52.326
on what needs to be done
02:43:52.326 --> 02:43:56.630
because of the cost of damage
02:43:58.459 --> 02:44:00.020
done by wildfires.
02:44:00.020 --> 02:44:01.942
And frankly, it's also worth noting that
02:44:01.942 --> 02:44:04.396
95% of the general public
02:44:04.396 --> 02:44:07.150
probably believes
that high tension lines
02:44:07.150 --> 02:44:08.733
already are insulated.
02:44:09.640 --> 02:44:11.637
That just shows what a
common sense approach this is.
02:44:11.637 --> 02:44:14.210
Thank you very much for
getting through all these calls
02:44:14.210 --> 02:44:15.110
and for your time.
02:44:17.980 --> 02:44:20.443
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:44:21.490 --> 02:44:23.870
The next
caller is Deirdre Bolona,
02:44:23.870 --> 02:44:25.293
your line is now open.
02:44:26.807 --> 02:44:28.560
Hello, good morning
02:44:28.560 --> 02:44:30.210
or good afternoon now Commissioners.
02:44:30.210 --> 02:44:31.740
My name is Deirdre Bolona.
02:44:31.740 --> 02:44:34.500
I'm a founding member
of the Aliso Moms Alliance
02:44:34.500 --> 02:44:35.770
and a resident living next to
02:44:35.770 --> 02:44:38.340
the Aliso Canyon Storage Facility.
02:44:38.340 --> 02:44:42.290
The North San Fernando Valley
has the carcinogenic emissions
02:44:42.290 --> 02:44:44.340
that constantly leak from this facility.
02:44:44.340 --> 02:44:49.340
And I urge the CPUC to reject
the requests by oil companies
02:44:49.430 --> 02:44:53.116
and SoCalGas to increase
Aliso storage movement.
02:44:53.116 --> 02:44:56.140
I urge you to prioritize
public health and safety
02:44:56.140 --> 02:44:58.880
over fossil fuel profits.
02:44:58.880 --> 02:45:01.533
Local apologies,
02:45:03.140 --> 02:45:06.420
official support and expedited
shutdown of SoCalGas
02:45:06.420 --> 02:45:08.670
expanding gas storage
limits at this time is wrong
02:45:08.670 --> 02:45:09.750
and sends a message
02:45:09.750 --> 02:45:14.000
that community health is less
important than SoCalGas wealth
02:45:14.000 --> 02:45:15.020
My father is one of the many
02:45:15.020 --> 02:45:17.200
who contracted kidney
cancer on my street
02:45:17.200 --> 02:45:18.110
and in my neighborhood.
02:45:18.110 --> 02:45:19.200
Unfortunately he passed away
02:45:19.200 --> 02:45:20.693
and is not able to be here.
02:45:21.580 --> 02:45:25.210
How he trusted our department
of pamphlet cap and SoCalGas
02:45:25.210 --> 02:45:28.225
with their weekly (indistinct)
02:45:28.225 --> 02:45:31.100
no forget gap and how no
harm has come to our community.
02:45:31.100 --> 02:45:34.450
Well, natural gas is toxic
and a fugitive emission.
02:45:34.450 --> 02:45:37.470
It constantly escapes from
miles of pipes and compressors
02:45:37.470 --> 02:45:40.670
and other components that
operate and leak 24 hours a day,
02:45:40.670 --> 02:45:43.190
seven days a week from these facilities.
02:45:43.190 --> 02:45:46.549
These toxic chemicals are
forever now in our bodies.
02:45:46.549 --> 02:45:50.694
Last week, the L.A. Board
of Advisors voted to oppose
02:45:50.694 --> 02:45:52.470
the storage increase at Aliso.
02:45:52.470 --> 02:45:55.520
And this week the L.A. City
Council also introduced the
02:45:55.520 --> 02:45:58.410
relative solution to
oppose storage increases,
02:45:58.410 --> 02:46:02.090
increases the CPUC needs to listen to
02:46:02.090 --> 02:46:04.870
the local leadership increase
02:46:04.870 --> 02:46:05.980
and instead focus on
02:46:07.170 --> 02:46:09.740
shutting down Aliso Canyon now.
02:46:09.740 --> 02:46:13.973
Please Commissioners
do more to protect, prioritize,
02:46:15.050 --> 02:46:18.540
invest in clean energy
solutions and in the L.A. base
02:46:18.540 --> 02:46:20.840
and not let SoCalGas expand.
02:46:20.840 --> 02:46:23.310
We want the CPUC
to put health safety first
02:46:23.310 --> 02:46:24.273
for all communities,
02:46:24.273 --> 02:46:26.820
shutting down Aliso
Canyon, shutting down
02:46:26.820 --> 02:46:30.155
Playa Del Rey and stopping
the expansion of the Ventura
02:46:30.155 --> 02:46:32.890
Compressor Station.
02:46:32.890 --> 02:46:34.580
Thank you for my time.
02:46:34.580 --> 02:46:37.420
Three hours of waiting, I'm
exhausted, but thank you.
02:46:37.420 --> 02:46:38.333
I appreciate it.
02:46:39.720 --> 02:46:41.010
Thank you very much.
02:46:41.010 --> 02:46:43.570
Operators the next caller please.
02:46:43.570 --> 02:46:45.590
The next
caller is Farah Amar,
02:46:45.590 --> 02:46:47.761
your line is now open.
02:46:47.761 --> 02:46:49.430
Hi, thank you.
02:46:49.430 --> 02:46:52.491
I'm a resident of Los Angeles County
02:46:52.491 --> 02:46:55.492
in the San Fernando Valley
02:46:55.492 --> 02:47:00.492
and the area affected by the
Aliso Canyon Gas blowout.
02:47:02.190 --> 02:47:04.947
I have been affected by it.
02:47:04.947 --> 02:47:09.947
I suffered nosebleeds, I had
to keep my windows closed.
02:47:11.640 --> 02:47:12.473
And so on.
02:47:14.324 --> 02:47:18.440
I'm asking The Commission,
don't allow SoCalGas
02:47:19.287 --> 02:47:22.580
to expand this facility.
02:47:22.580 --> 02:47:27.160
Any increase in storage
limits will expose the CPUC's
02:47:27.160 --> 02:47:29.949
failure to shut this facility down.
02:47:29.949 --> 02:47:34.000
I urge the CPUC to reject the request
02:47:34.000 --> 02:47:38.420
and instead prioritize
public health and safety
02:47:38.420 --> 02:47:40.500
over fossil fuel profits.
02:47:40.500 --> 02:47:42.580
The County of L.A., the City of L.A.,
02:47:42.580 --> 02:47:44.960
the L.A. Unified School District,
02:47:44.960 --> 02:47:48.250
and many others are on
record in support of an expedited
02:47:48.250 --> 02:47:50.860
shutdown of Aliso Canyon.
02:47:50.860 --> 02:47:55.776
I am also asking that the Commission
02:47:55.776 --> 02:47:59.720
listen to other communities
across the State,
02:47:59.720 --> 02:48:03.020
whether it's those that
are calling for the shutdown
02:48:03.020 --> 02:48:07.156
of the Playa Del Rey
Gas Storage Facility
02:48:07.156 --> 02:48:12.156
or the compressor's
station in Ventura County.
02:48:13.120 --> 02:48:17.830
We need to move to
100% renewable energy.
02:48:17.830 --> 02:48:22.683
That means shutting
down the gas infrastructure.
02:48:23.730 --> 02:48:28.730
The Aliso Canyon location in
particular has had measurable
02:48:30.160 --> 02:48:33.490
releases of toxins every day,
02:48:33.490 --> 02:48:37.730
including some like radioactive uranium.
02:48:37.730 --> 02:48:41.670
It is appalling that instead
of closing this down,
02:48:41.670 --> 02:48:44.262
we might be exposed to an increase
02:48:44.262 --> 02:48:47.773
of these are toxic pollutants.
02:48:47.773 --> 02:48:50.733
The facility is no longer needed.
02:48:50.733 --> 02:48:54.760
We have shown during
the period that it was closed,
02:48:54.760 --> 02:48:57.505
that it's possible to
readjust the gas system
02:48:57.505 --> 02:49:00.890
and operate smoothly without it.
02:49:00.890 --> 02:49:02.580
Thank you very much.
02:49:02.580 --> 02:49:07.450
What we need is to set a
precedent, close Aliso Canyon.
02:49:07.450 --> 02:49:09.233
Don't expanded it, thank you.
02:49:10.100 --> 02:49:12.423
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
02:49:12.423 --> 02:49:15.120
The next
caller is Anitro Wessel,
02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:16.500
your line is now open.
02:49:18.340 --> 02:49:20.350
Hello, thanks
for taking my call.
02:49:20.350 --> 02:49:21.600
I hope you all can hear me.
02:49:21.600 --> 02:49:23.760
I'm about to drive out of reception.
02:49:23.760 --> 02:49:24.984
I'm gonna pull over for this.
02:49:24.984 --> 02:49:27.850
So I am definitely a
concerned citizen of the earth.
02:49:27.850 --> 02:49:30.780
I've lived near oil and
gas projects in Los Angeles
02:49:30.780 --> 02:49:31.650
my whole life.
02:49:31.650 --> 02:49:33.280
I just turned 40 years old.
02:49:33.280 --> 02:49:36.750
I have allergies to petroleum
chemicals since I was a kid.
02:49:36.750 --> 02:49:38.550
And they've gotten extremely worse
02:49:38.550 --> 02:49:41.800
since I lived near Aliso Canyon
02:49:42.660 --> 02:49:44.640
out of the five mile range, by the way,
02:49:44.640 --> 02:49:46.809
where millions and
thousands of us have been
02:49:46.809 --> 02:49:48.380
illy affected
02:49:48.380 --> 02:49:50.657
just like everyone else
who gets migraines.
02:49:50.657 --> 02:49:55.050
I have bloody noses,
cold flu symptoms, nausea.
02:49:55.050 --> 02:49:57.090
I personally had to
stop going to protest,
02:49:57.090 --> 02:49:59.864
even though I am very
much against fracking.
02:49:59.864 --> 02:50:03.773
I hope we can all take
the sixth largest extinction
02:50:03.773 --> 02:50:06.540
that humans are not immune to
02:50:06.540 --> 02:50:07.770
very seriously.
02:50:07.770 --> 02:50:10.240
We've lost hundreds of different species
02:50:10.240 --> 02:50:11.242
since the seventies.
02:50:11.242 --> 02:50:14.160
And speaking as someone
who also worked in Porter Ranch
02:50:14.160 --> 02:50:16.300
and did not get any help also
02:50:16.300 --> 02:50:18.870
from the regulatory captured industries,
02:50:18.870 --> 02:50:22.150
making profits off
of lives in all species.
02:50:22.150 --> 02:50:25.030
Please, please shut down Aliso canyon,
02:50:25.030 --> 02:50:29.100
shut down the compressor
facility and no more storage of gas
02:50:29.100 --> 02:50:31.680
in Playa Del Rey either
you have a lot of rich folks,
02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:32.513
you know,
02:50:32.513 --> 02:50:35.250
complaining in Porter
Ranch and in Playa Del Rey
02:50:35.250 --> 02:50:38.010
and countless people unaccounted for
02:50:38.010 --> 02:50:39.960
just like they have
been able to share with it,
02:50:39.960 --> 02:50:42.120
with their neighbors in our communities
02:50:42.120 --> 02:50:44.130
that people are dying over this.
02:50:44.130 --> 02:50:48.538
I don't understand why
people would tip themselves up
02:50:48.538 --> 02:50:50.730
in a position to regulate this.
02:50:50.730 --> 02:50:55.090
It's not regulatable,
it is ongoing, stewing.
02:50:55.090 --> 02:50:57.070
It's not just two weeks a day.
02:50:57.070 --> 02:50:59.910
It's not when it's going
to leak, it's always leaking.
02:50:59.910 --> 02:51:01.660
We need to get off fossil fuels now,
02:51:01.660 --> 02:51:02.610
we have the technology,
02:51:02.610 --> 02:51:06.990
we have tidal waves, a
geothermal without fossil fuels.
02:51:06.990 --> 02:51:11.640
Solar of course, Southern
California is tremendous,
02:51:11.640 --> 02:51:14.499
all over California is
tremendous as well as wind.
02:51:14.499 --> 02:51:17.830
So we have all these
technologies living on the Coast.
02:51:17.830 --> 02:51:19.000
Please it's time to get off.
02:51:19.000 --> 02:51:21.960
Scientists all over the planet are
02:51:21.960 --> 02:51:24.350
asking us to get off by 2030.
02:51:24.350 --> 02:51:25.713
We have to start now.
02:51:30.280 --> 02:51:32.730
Thank you, Operator
in the next caller, please.
02:51:35.010 --> 02:51:37.100
The next
caller is a Marylyn Fuss,
02:51:37.100 --> 02:51:38.583
your line is now open.
02:51:39.920 --> 02:51:42.020
Thank you, can
you hear me well now?
02:51:42.020 --> 02:51:45.050
Yes, we can hear you
just fine, please proceed.
02:51:45.050 --> 02:51:45.883
Thank you.
02:51:45.883 --> 02:51:48.800
I'm a member of, SoCal 350.org,
02:51:48.800 --> 02:51:52.495
of the National Action
Network, Color of Change
02:51:52.495 --> 02:51:56.310
and I'm putting this
in the simplest form,
02:51:56.310 --> 02:51:57.680
simplest terms.
02:51:57.680 --> 02:51:58.790
For so many years
02:51:58.790 --> 02:52:01.920
there have been stories of poor health
02:52:01.920 --> 02:52:06.560
and death of many species
around the whole region
02:52:06.560 --> 02:52:08.870
surrounding Aliso Canyon.
02:52:08.870 --> 02:52:11.598
There's unprecedented fire danger now,
02:52:11.598 --> 02:52:15.575
and there's intense
pollution of both air and soil.
02:52:15.575 --> 02:52:20.500
Aliso Canyon Storage Plant
needs to be shut down permanently
02:52:20.500 --> 02:52:23.070
tomorrow while we're at it.
02:52:23.070 --> 02:52:27.559
Playa Del Rey needs
the same action closure.
02:52:27.559 --> 02:52:32.559
These shutdown should
coincide with budget increases
02:52:32.900 --> 02:52:35.280
for fire safety measures.
02:52:35.280 --> 02:52:36.880
Thank you so much for listening.
02:52:39.680 --> 02:52:40.640
Thank you for the call,
02:52:40.640 --> 02:52:43.280
Operator the next caller, please.
02:52:43.280 --> 02:52:45.410
The next caller
is Melodie Chrislock,
02:52:45.410 --> 02:52:46.683
your line is now open.
02:52:50.140 --> 02:52:51.660
Melodie Chrislock,
02:52:51.660 --> 02:52:54.827
McCallum Repair and the
Director of Public Water Now.
02:52:54.827 --> 02:52:59.419
Now why is East Pasadena
sale back in consent again?
02:52:59.419 --> 02:53:04.419
How does a sale that
will impact add $34 million
02:53:04.540 --> 02:53:05.410
to our water bills?
02:53:05.410 --> 02:53:07.899
Not even rate a public discussion.
02:53:07.899 --> 02:53:10.232
This proposed decision is an error.
02:53:10.232 --> 02:53:12.660
It's completely backwards.
02:53:12.660 --> 02:53:15.600
Your gain-on-sale
rules absolutely do apply
02:53:15.600 --> 02:53:18.190
to these used and useful assets.
02:53:18.190 --> 02:53:20.154
From the public's perspective,
02:53:20.154 --> 02:53:23.640
it looks like you've allowed
Cal-Am's attorneys to confuse
02:53:23.640 --> 02:53:25.930
and intimidate you in this matter.
02:53:25.930 --> 02:53:29.360
If you don't apply the
gain-on-sale rules here,
02:53:29.360 --> 02:53:31.053
where would you ever apply them?
02:53:32.280 --> 02:53:35.350
Abandoning the gain-on-sale
rules leaves rate payers
02:53:35.350 --> 02:53:38.975
to bear the entire cost
of utilities acquisitions.
02:53:38.975 --> 02:53:41.050
Yet the utilities shareholders
02:53:41.050 --> 02:53:42.880
are the ones who benefit.
02:53:42.880 --> 02:53:44.986
How is this fair?
02:53:44.986 --> 02:53:48.480
Please pull this from consent
and take a closer look at the
02:53:48.480 --> 02:53:51.255
intent of the gain-on-sale rules.
02:53:51.255 --> 02:53:53.520
It's your duty to protect the public
02:53:53.520 --> 02:53:55.780
from this kind of profiteering.
02:53:55.780 --> 02:54:00.086
Please don't approve the East
Pasadena sale as proposed.
02:54:00.086 --> 02:54:00.919
Thank you.
02:54:02.510 --> 02:54:04.843
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
02:54:07.490 --> 02:54:10.780
Our next
caller is Patty Glueck,
02:54:10.780 --> 02:54:12.080
you may go ahead.
02:54:12.080 --> 02:54:12.913
Well, thank you.
02:54:12.913 --> 02:54:15.590
I'm a co-founder of
the Aliso Moms Alliance.
02:54:15.590 --> 02:54:19.890
I also serve on the L.A. County's
Aliso Canyon Health Study
02:54:19.890 --> 02:54:21.570
Community Advisory Group.
02:54:21.570 --> 02:54:25.545
I'm speaking in opposition
to any increase in capacity at
02:54:25.545 --> 02:54:26.910
Aliso canyon.
02:54:26.910 --> 02:54:30.314
Elected officials, including
Governors Brown and Newsom,
02:54:30.314 --> 02:54:31.867
Senator Dianne Feinstein,
02:54:31.867 --> 02:54:34.160
the L.A. County Board of Supervisors,
02:54:34.160 --> 02:54:37.350
the L.A. City Council and
State Senator Henry Stern
02:54:37.350 --> 02:54:40.160
have told the CPUC to shut down Aliso,
02:54:40.160 --> 02:54:42.230
and here's some important reasons why.
02:54:42.230 --> 02:54:44.810
First according to Cal fire Aliso
02:54:44.810 --> 02:54:48.950
is located in a very
high fire hazard zone,
02:54:48.950 --> 02:54:53.760
a salary fire in 2019 came
just feet away from the Wells.
02:54:53.760 --> 02:54:54.593
Second,
02:54:54.593 --> 02:54:57.870
the sentence is the earthquakes
run through every well there
02:54:57.870 --> 02:55:00.170
and there's other faults nearby too.
02:55:00.170 --> 02:55:02.120
Third, cases of multiple
02:55:02.120 --> 02:55:05.680
myeloma, leukemia, lymphoma
and other forms of cancer
02:55:05.680 --> 02:55:08.670
have been increasing
since the 2015 blow out.
02:55:08.670 --> 02:55:11.820
For the Blade Energy Root Cause Analysis
02:55:11.820 --> 02:55:13.940
has shown that SoCalGas runs its
02:55:13.940 --> 02:55:16.620
facility and negligence manner.
02:55:16.620 --> 02:55:18.470
Your safety enforcement division,
02:55:18.470 --> 02:55:22.860
south 335 violations and
part of your investigation
02:55:22.860 --> 02:55:25.330
into possible sanctions
for the gas company.
02:55:25.330 --> 02:55:28.794
More than 1.5 million
residents of San Fernando valley
02:55:28.794 --> 02:55:31.760
are at risk every day,
Aliso remains open.
02:55:31.760 --> 02:55:33.350
If anything, the CPUC
02:55:33.350 --> 02:55:35.740
needs to be truly
expediting the closure,
02:55:35.740 --> 02:55:38.420
not looking at increasing
the amount of gas there
02:55:38.420 --> 02:55:41.730
increased capacity will mean increasing
02:55:41.730 --> 02:55:45.020
the amount of polytoxins
that are attacking our bodies.
02:55:45.020 --> 02:55:47.560
Our health and safety
should be more important
02:55:47.560 --> 02:55:50.060
than lining the pockets
of SoCal management.
02:55:50.060 --> 02:55:53.603
That's true with Playa
Del Rey and Ventura too.
02:55:54.760 --> 02:55:56.940
Anywhere that SoCalGas has facilities.
02:55:56.940 --> 02:55:58.063
Thank you very much.
02:56:00.090 --> 02:56:02.893
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
02:56:04.390 --> 02:56:09.390
Your safety is
an important position-
02:56:09.550 --> 02:56:11.896
I can barely hear you.
02:56:11.896 --> 02:56:14.087
Our next
caller is Tammy Jennings,
02:56:14.087 --> 02:56:15.123
you may go ahead.
02:56:16.460 --> 02:56:17.930
Hello?
02:56:17.930 --> 02:56:19.470
Hello, we can hear you.
02:56:19.470 --> 02:56:21.300
Are you still there?
02:56:21.300 --> 02:56:23.523
Yes, we can hear
you please go ahead.
02:56:25.210 --> 02:56:28.930
Sorry My name
is Tammy Jennings.
02:56:28.930 --> 02:56:31.727
I'm with, I live in Monterey.
02:56:31.727 --> 02:56:34.133
I'm calling.
02:56:35.570 --> 02:56:39.383
Hold on, I lost my place in my,
02:56:41.150 --> 02:56:43.693
I know I've got two
minutes, so I'll be quick.
02:56:45.468 --> 02:56:46.301
shot.
02:56:47.480 --> 02:56:48.513
Okay, here we go.
02:56:50.486 --> 02:56:55.486
Please pull item five
from consent and hold this
02:56:56.640 --> 02:57:00.340
proposed decision on the
sale of East Pasadena Water
02:57:00.340 --> 02:57:01.996
for future discussion.
02:57:01.996 --> 02:57:06.690
This decision is an error
and should not be approved.
02:57:06.690 --> 02:57:09.553
Ignoring the gains-on-sale rules
02:57:09.553 --> 02:57:13.490
would be a terrible
precedent for tax payer funding
02:57:13.490 --> 02:57:15.499
of monopoly profiteering.
02:57:15.499 --> 02:57:19.756
CPUC gain-on-sales rules were created
02:57:19.756 --> 02:57:24.756
to protect rate payers from
exactly this kind of situation.
02:57:25.650 --> 02:57:30.010
Water is a public resource that the CPUC
02:57:30.010 --> 02:57:32.480
must protect from profiteering.
02:57:32.480 --> 02:57:37.411
No one should be able to make
money on something we all need
02:57:37.411 --> 02:57:40.670
to live, which is water.
02:57:40.670 --> 02:57:41.503
Thank you.
02:57:43.300 --> 02:57:46.323
Thank you, operator
the next caller please.
02:57:48.250 --> 02:57:49.820
Our next
caller is Tammy Kim.
02:57:49.820 --> 02:57:50.803
You may go ahead.
02:57:53.470 --> 02:57:54.610
Hello, this is Tammy Kim,
02:57:54.610 --> 02:57:56.430
I'm Vice Mayor for the City of Irvine.
02:57:56.430 --> 02:57:57.263
Can you hear me?
02:57:58.640 --> 02:58:02.323
Yes, there is activity in
the background however.
02:58:03.510 --> 02:58:06.280
Sorry, as a resident
and as an elected official
02:58:06.280 --> 02:58:07.900
within the City of Irvine,
02:58:07.900 --> 02:58:12.690
I've seen the impact
firsthand of wildfires
02:58:12.690 --> 02:58:15.667
California has over
two million households
02:58:20.060 --> 02:58:22.880
at extreme risk from wildfire,
02:58:22.880 --> 02:58:24.820
including my own constituents.
02:58:24.820 --> 02:58:28.410
In Irvine we've experienced
two major wildfires last year
02:58:28.410 --> 02:58:31.837
where nearly 100,000 people
in my city and surrounding areas
02:58:31.837 --> 02:58:34.510
were evacuated from their homes.
02:58:34.510 --> 02:58:38.210
I'm very concerned that the
proposed decision to cut back on
02:58:38.210 --> 02:58:41.120
requested funding
for wildfire mitigation
02:58:41.120 --> 02:58:44.830
will leave my community
at risk for future wildfires.
02:58:44.830 --> 02:58:48.360
I urge you to approve the
full funding requested by
02:58:48.360 --> 02:58:51.453
SoCal Edison for installing
covered conductors
02:58:51.453 --> 02:58:53.254
for the 6,000 miles
02:58:53.254 --> 02:58:55.940
of high risk power lines.
02:58:55.940 --> 02:58:58.963
This funding will save
countless lives, property,
02:58:58.963 --> 02:59:00.513
and resources.
02:59:01.480 --> 02:59:03.710
I'm also concerned
that without the funding
02:59:03.710 --> 02:59:05.630
to install cover conductors,
02:59:05.630 --> 02:59:08.690
there will be an increase
in power shut off events.
02:59:08.690 --> 02:59:10.120
Power shutoffs,
02:59:10.120 --> 02:59:14.230
put our communities at risk
and should only be used as a
02:59:14.230 --> 02:59:16.240
measure of last resort.
02:59:16.240 --> 02:59:18.530
This isn't just about convenience.
02:59:18.530 --> 02:59:23.530
Shutting up power has
adverse impact on our residents.
02:59:23.776 --> 02:59:26.890
And when you think about senior citizens
02:59:26.890 --> 02:59:30.670
and working families who are
already many food insecure,
02:59:30.670 --> 02:59:32.710
who can't afford to throw away food
02:59:32.710 --> 02:59:34.830
ruined by lack of refrigeration.
02:59:34.830 --> 02:59:38.062
We have families
dependent on the internet
02:59:38.062 --> 02:59:41.773
because they're working
or going to school remotely.
02:59:41.773 --> 02:59:46.130
That require electricity
for their modem.
02:59:46.130 --> 02:59:49.230
And it's an unfortunate
reality that wildfires
02:59:49.230 --> 02:59:52.330
have become a natural
part of California's landscape.
02:59:52.330 --> 02:59:54.386
And the fire season is starting earlier
02:59:54.386 --> 02:59:56.710
and is nearly year round.
02:59:56.710 --> 02:59:58.550
We need to do more,
02:59:58.550 --> 03:00:01.682
not less to mitigate
and prevent wildfires.
03:00:01.682 --> 03:00:05.080
I respectfully ask The
Commission to reconsider
03:00:05.080 --> 03:00:09.313
your proposed decision
and approve full funding
03:00:09.313 --> 03:00:14.140
to SoCal Edison for
installing covered conduction.
03:00:14.140 --> 03:00:16.423
Thank you so much for
your time and consideration.
03:00:16.423 --> 03:00:18.850
Thank you.
03:00:18.850 --> 03:00:21.423
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
03:00:22.810 --> 03:00:24.720
Our next
caller is Jane Fowler,
03:00:24.720 --> 03:00:25.570
you may go ahead.
03:00:29.140 --> 03:00:33.240
Hi, well sorry,
take a bathroom break
03:00:33.240 --> 03:00:35.100
Okay hi, my name is Jane Fowler.
03:00:35.100 --> 03:00:37.560
I live in Granada Hills,
03:00:37.560 --> 03:00:39.720
co-founder of Aliso Moms Alliance.
03:00:39.720 --> 03:00:42.490
Thank you for allowing
us to give public comment.
03:00:42.490 --> 03:00:44.310
I guess SoCalGas is requesting
03:00:44.310 --> 03:00:47.650
an increase of gas in the
Aliso Gas Storage Facility.
03:00:47.650 --> 03:00:51.090
And I hope you're not
considering this increase.
03:00:51.090 --> 03:00:54.094
To quote Catherine,
Supervisor Katheryn Barger,
03:00:54.094 --> 03:00:57.452
she says, "The health
and environmental impacts
03:00:57.452 --> 03:01:02.025
from the 2015 blowouts
are still not fully known."
03:01:02.025 --> 03:01:06.050
She goes on to say, "The
findings in the root cause analysis
03:01:06.050 --> 03:01:11.010
cast doubt on the site
operators ability to operate
03:01:11.010 --> 03:01:12.620
the facility safely.
03:01:12.620 --> 03:01:16.050
I want to remind you
of the Blade Report."
03:01:16.050 --> 03:01:17.501
So let me tell you once again,
03:01:17.501 --> 03:01:21.320
you know about my experience
within here, my hair fell out.
03:01:21.320 --> 03:01:23.985
My stomach is still hard and distended,
03:01:23.985 --> 03:01:26.310
I'm nauseous constantly,
03:01:26.310 --> 03:01:30.500
I get itchy burning skin,
sore throat, blurry vision,
03:01:30.500 --> 03:01:32.153
heart palpitations.
03:01:33.190 --> 03:01:35.670
My liver is now failing
because I can't process
03:01:35.670 --> 03:01:38.668
all the toxins Aliso has put in my body.
03:01:38.668 --> 03:01:40.530
I can't remember things.
03:01:40.530 --> 03:01:44.627
I always have brain fog
and anxiety and depression.
03:01:44.627 --> 03:01:46.690
My friend who came to visit left
03:01:46.690 --> 03:01:49.355
because she was getting
nauseous, headaches,
03:01:49.355 --> 03:01:52.093
and also itchy burning skin.
03:01:54.730 --> 03:01:55.930
I'm sorry.
03:01:55.930 --> 03:01:59.676
And my beloved Missy, my dog died.
03:01:59.676 --> 03:02:02.070
There are still two leaks per day.
03:02:02.070 --> 03:02:05.600
And with the vending
and two weeks per day,
03:02:05.600 --> 03:02:08.570
and with the venting
and the acid piping wash
03:02:09.602 --> 03:02:11.970
SoCalGas is not a good neighbor.
03:02:11.970 --> 03:02:13.870
They don't warn us about this
03:02:13.870 --> 03:02:16.780
and nor do they take time to take care
03:02:16.780 --> 03:02:18.900
of their crumbling, old pipes.
03:02:18.900 --> 03:02:22.150
Again, the Blade Report, but
you know, you're the CPUC
03:02:22.150 --> 03:02:24.790
so you must be aware
of their negligence.
03:02:24.790 --> 03:02:27.297
And last to remind you that, you know,
03:02:27.297 --> 03:02:30.800
we're in a climate
crisis, like, you know,
03:02:30.800 --> 03:02:33.757
it's everywhere now, climate
crisis, the climate crisis,
03:02:33.757 --> 03:02:36.790
and we're supposed to be
moving away and transitioning
03:02:36.790 --> 03:02:37.780
from fossil fuels
03:02:37.780 --> 03:02:42.100
not increasing SoCalGas's
money-making thing.
03:02:42.100 --> 03:02:44.590
Anyway, we have difficult
decisions to be made,
03:02:44.590 --> 03:02:46.640
to save the destruction of the planet
03:02:46.640 --> 03:02:50.710
and just, this is a light
brewing situation for us
03:02:50.710 --> 03:02:53.727
so imagine if you don't
do anything in California
03:02:53.727 --> 03:02:56.450
and the planet feels
the way we are feeling
03:02:56.450 --> 03:02:58.530
in the San Fernando Valley.
03:02:58.530 --> 03:03:01.950
Don't let California
and us ruin the planet.
03:03:01.950 --> 03:03:04.500
No increase in gas
transmission from fossil fuel.
03:03:04.500 --> 03:03:05.840
I'm very sorry, thank you so much.
03:03:05.840 --> 03:03:08.520
I waited so many hours, thank you.
03:03:10.107 --> 03:03:12.533
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
03:03:14.100 --> 03:03:16.800
Our next
caller is Jesse Johnson.
03:03:16.800 --> 03:03:18.370
You may go ahead.
03:03:18.370 --> 03:03:21.390
Yes, can you hear me?
03:03:21.390 --> 03:03:22.910
Yes, we can hear you,
go ahead Mr. Johnson,
03:03:22.910 --> 03:03:24.380
please carry on.
03:03:24.380 --> 03:03:25.710
Oh, okay thank you, yeah.
03:03:25.710 --> 03:03:28.900
My name is Jesse Johnson
and I'm the Founder and President
03:03:28.900 --> 03:03:31.460
Emeritus of the 100
Black Men of Long Beach
03:03:31.460 --> 03:03:36.460
Incorporated, NASCE rate
paying residential customer.
03:03:36.680 --> 03:03:37.900
I live in View Park,
03:03:37.900 --> 03:03:42.600
which is an unincorporated
area of Los Angeles County.
03:03:42.600 --> 03:03:45.000
Most of our members are also commercial
03:03:45.000 --> 03:03:48.321
and are residential
rate paying customers.
03:03:48.321 --> 03:03:53.040
I am speaking in support of SCE's
03:03:53.040 --> 03:03:55.680
General Rate Case Requests.
03:03:55.680 --> 03:04:00.100
If SCE's funding is
reduced, it will have an,
03:04:00.100 --> 03:04:04.710
an adverse impact on
SCE's pole, transformer
03:04:04.710 --> 03:04:07.160
and wire replacement programs,
03:04:07.160 --> 03:04:11.693
which hardened the grid
against the threat of wildfires.
03:04:11.693 --> 03:04:15.880
The reduction would
also decrease SCEs crews
03:04:15.880 --> 03:04:19.352
and call center staff that
responds to emergencies
03:04:19.352 --> 03:04:23.700
such as wildfires and earthquakes.
03:04:23.700 --> 03:04:27.850
In addition would also
reduce SCE's ability to invest
03:04:27.850 --> 03:04:31.630
in fire resistant equipment
and hamper updates
03:04:31.630 --> 03:04:34.520
to their cybersecurity system
03:04:34.520 --> 03:04:37.020
that protects the grid from hackers.
03:04:37.020 --> 03:04:42.020
SCE's clean energy goals
would also be adversely affect
03:04:43.570 --> 03:04:47.743
as well as climate change,
thank you very much.
03:04:49.610 --> 03:04:52.363
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
03:04:54.066 --> 03:04:57.340
Our next
caller is Phil Wellman
03:04:57.340 --> 03:04:58.190
you may go ahead.
03:05:04.289 --> 03:05:05.770
Hello.
03:05:05.770 --> 03:05:08.740
Hello, please go
ahead, Mr. Wellman.
03:05:08.740 --> 03:05:10.050
Can you hear me?
03:05:10.050 --> 03:05:13.083
Yes, we can hear you
just fine, please go ahead.
03:05:13.083 --> 03:05:14.570
Right, okay, good.
03:05:14.570 --> 03:05:18.780
Phil Wellman, Cal-Am rate
payer on the Monterey Peninsula.
03:05:18.780 --> 03:05:21.630
The sale of East
Pasadena Water to Cal-Am
03:05:21.630 --> 03:05:24.290
is not about union jobs.
03:05:24.290 --> 03:05:26.180
I don't oppose the sale.
03:05:26.180 --> 03:05:28.580
I oppose the terms of the sale that are
03:05:28.580 --> 03:05:32.630
unfair to rate payers
across Cal-Am system.
03:05:32.630 --> 03:05:37.100
a 750% profit is obscene.
03:05:37.100 --> 03:05:39.120
Why should we pay for an acquisition
03:05:39.120 --> 03:05:41.340
that we don't benefit from?
03:05:41.340 --> 03:05:44.110
Please pull item five from consent
03:05:44.110 --> 03:05:46.630
and hold this proposed decision
03:05:46.630 --> 03:05:50.500
on the sale of East Pasadena
Water for future discussion.
03:05:50.500 --> 03:05:54.630
This decision is enormously
unfair to rate payers
03:05:54.630 --> 03:05:56.860
and it should not be approved.
03:05:56.860 --> 03:06:01.080
Most of the 630,000 Cal-Am
rate payers in this State
03:06:01.080 --> 03:06:04.520
have no idea that if
this sale goes through,
03:06:04.520 --> 03:06:06.560
they will be charged $34 million
03:06:07.700 --> 03:06:10.510
and they will receive no benefit.
03:06:10.510 --> 03:06:11.730
Take your time.
03:06:11.730 --> 03:06:15.730
Study this issue carefully
assure Cal-Am rate payers
03:06:15.730 --> 03:06:18.610
they won't be victimized once again.
03:06:18.610 --> 03:06:19.443
Thank you.
03:06:21.250 --> 03:06:24.936
Thank you very much,
Operator the next caller please.
03:06:24.936 --> 03:06:28.290
The next caller
is Jane Velez Mitchell.
03:06:28.290 --> 03:06:29.723
Your line is now open.
03:06:30.830 --> 03:06:32.570
Thank you, I've
been listening to this.
03:06:32.570 --> 03:06:35.240
Clearly, the people are talking
03:06:35.240 --> 03:06:38.049
and so many people couldn't
stay on for three hours,
03:06:38.049 --> 03:06:41.410
but the message is clear.
03:06:41.410 --> 03:06:45.370
The time for bold action is
now I live in Marina Del Rey,
03:06:45.370 --> 03:06:46.910
I'm a journalist and author,
03:06:46.910 --> 03:06:48.350
and I only recently discovered
03:06:48.350 --> 03:06:50.780
that there was a massive
gas storage facility
03:06:50.780 --> 03:06:53.040
under the Ballona Wetlands,
03:06:53.040 --> 03:06:56.240
which now they've created
a whole phony restoration.
03:06:56.240 --> 03:06:59.580
SoCalGas giving money to
so-called environmental groups
03:06:59.580 --> 03:07:01.180
so they can say, oh, let's restore it
03:07:01.180 --> 03:07:04.030
when the real plan is to dig deep
03:07:04.030 --> 03:07:06.810
and upgrade and rejigger
03:07:06.810 --> 03:07:09.100
their crumbling gas storage facility,
03:07:09.100 --> 03:07:11.840
which needs to be shut down.
03:07:11.840 --> 03:07:14.917
The Los Angeles City
Council has told the Governor,
03:07:14.917 --> 03:07:16.210
"Shut it down."
03:07:16.210 --> 03:07:19.107
The governments of Santa
Monica and Culver City have said,
03:07:19.107 --> 03:07:20.190
"Shut it down."
03:07:20.190 --> 03:07:23.150
The people are talking, "Shut it down."
03:07:23.150 --> 03:07:25.110
It's fracked gas.
03:07:25.110 --> 03:07:28.070
Fracking is contributing
to the climate crisis.
03:07:28.070 --> 03:07:31.610
We can't just sit here and
say, "Oh my God, we're victims.
03:07:31.610 --> 03:07:33.080
The wildfires, the droughts,
03:07:33.080 --> 03:07:36.710
the heat, it's all because of climate."
03:07:36.710 --> 03:07:38.880
When this industry
03:07:38.880 --> 03:07:42.000
is creating the crisis
in the first place.
03:07:42.000 --> 03:07:43.400
There's a simple solution
03:07:43.400 --> 03:07:46.370
and I urge you to take bold action.
03:07:46.370 --> 03:07:50.700
Shut down the gas storage
facility in Playa Del Rey
03:07:50.700 --> 03:07:52.320
under the Ballona Wetlands.
03:07:52.320 --> 03:07:55.620
Shut down the Aliso
Canyon Gas Storage Facility.
03:07:55.620 --> 03:07:58.780
Send a bold message to this industry,
03:07:58.780 --> 03:08:01.720
which is running rough
shot over the people,
03:08:01.720 --> 03:08:05.290
which is literally
burning our State down.
03:08:05.290 --> 03:08:07.410
If not you who?
03:08:07.410 --> 03:08:08.970
Who is going to take the action?
03:08:08.970 --> 03:08:10.320
Or are we just going to wait
03:08:10.320 --> 03:08:12.923
until the entire place
goes up in flames?
03:08:12.923 --> 03:08:17.510
I mean, this industry is arrogant
03:08:17.510 --> 03:08:20.168
because nobody has said enough.
03:08:20.168 --> 03:08:23.310
It is time for you, it
is your responsibility,
03:08:23.310 --> 03:08:24.330
it is your duty.
03:08:24.330 --> 03:08:28.320
You signed up for this to
stand up and say, "No more!"
03:08:28.320 --> 03:08:31.175
You are killing people,
you are destroying wildlife.
03:08:31.175 --> 03:08:34.343
You are not a force for good,
03:08:34.343 --> 03:08:38.140
because the way industry
operates until you do that,
03:08:38.140 --> 03:08:42.000
they will run roughshod over everybody.
03:08:42.000 --> 03:08:44.570
I was just watching a documentary
about Teddy Roosevelt,
03:08:44.570 --> 03:08:46.670
standing up to The Trust.
03:08:46.670 --> 03:08:49.230
He took bold action,
that's why he's a hero.
03:08:49.230 --> 03:08:51.100
Be heroic, do something.
03:08:51.100 --> 03:08:53.397
Don't give us lip service, thank you.
03:08:54.861 --> 03:08:58.770
Thank you, Operator
next caller please.
03:08:58.770 --> 03:09:00.920
The next
caller is Jackie Barsac,
03:09:00.920 --> 03:09:03.370
from Democratic Socialists of America,
03:09:03.370 --> 03:09:04.973
Your line is now open.
03:09:12.360 --> 03:09:17.360
Hello, I want to tell
you that you Commissioners,
03:09:18.215 --> 03:09:23.215
you are responsible for
this profit making monopoly,
03:09:23.352 --> 03:09:26.598
that you have no control over.
03:09:26.598 --> 03:09:31.598
It is outrageous to me that you allow
03:09:31.830 --> 03:09:36.410
and enable this
unaccountable illegal monopoly
03:09:36.410 --> 03:09:39.486
to continue operating in San Francisco.
03:09:39.486 --> 03:09:42.960
And you are actually
preventing San Francisco
03:09:42.960 --> 03:09:45.790
from using its own public hydro-power
03:09:45.790 --> 03:09:48.142
so that the company can stay in power
03:09:48.142 --> 03:09:50.463
earning monopoly profits.
03:09:50.463 --> 03:09:53.530
Electricity should have
never been controlled
03:09:53.530 --> 03:09:56.263
by a private company
and sold for profits.
03:09:57.190 --> 03:09:59.420
And now you, the Commissioners,
03:09:59.420 --> 03:10:02.623
you have to be held
accountable for not sufficiently
03:10:02.623 --> 03:10:07.180
monitoring PG&E's
management of vegetation.
03:10:07.180 --> 03:10:09.290
Step one of the Commission's
03:10:09.290 --> 03:10:12.600
Enhanced Oversight
and Enforcement process
03:10:12.600 --> 03:10:15.620
required your oversight of utilities,
03:10:15.620 --> 03:10:19.730
performance of maintaining
risks for your high power lines.
03:10:19.730 --> 03:10:21.460
Yes, you failed.
03:10:21.460 --> 03:10:25.180
You are failing to hold
PG&E accountable.
03:10:25.180 --> 03:10:26.260
So the Dixie Fire
03:10:26.260 --> 03:10:30.720
which was caused by PG&E's
failure to manage vegetation
03:10:30.720 --> 03:10:32.210
in high risk areas.
03:10:32.210 --> 03:10:34.720
Now, the PUC is resolution on
03:10:34.720 --> 03:10:37.030
Enhanced Oversight
and Enforcement Process
03:10:37.030 --> 03:10:40.360
states that the Commission
did not move through
03:10:40.360 --> 03:10:43.040
the EOC steps sequentially.
03:10:43.040 --> 03:10:45.660
Therefore, I am demanding,
03:10:45.660 --> 03:10:49.570
we at the Reclaim Our Power! demand
03:10:49.570 --> 03:10:51.670
that based on the Dixie fire
03:10:51.670 --> 03:10:54.719
that you advanced to
step six of the process
03:10:54.719 --> 03:10:59.020
and do a formal review
of PG&E's certificate
03:10:59.020 --> 03:11:01.623
of public convenience and necessity.
03:11:02.880 --> 03:11:05.117
We bought a public power system
03:11:05.117 --> 03:11:09.514
and we want PG&E to be sold.
03:11:09.514 --> 03:11:12.620
and if they don't want to sell,
03:11:12.620 --> 03:11:16.890
we will protest until the
city uses its legal right
03:11:16.890 --> 03:11:21.890
to take over PG&E and seize
the system by eminent domain.
03:11:22.200 --> 03:11:24.930
And despite all of it's brainwashing,
03:11:24.930 --> 03:11:29.930
PG&E could care less
about fires and climate change
03:11:30.700 --> 03:11:32.373
and renewable power.
03:11:33.411 --> 03:11:37.193
We need to shut it down, shut it down.
03:11:38.387 --> 03:11:42.003
CPUC could help.
03:11:42.003 --> 03:11:44.500
And you could, you,
03:11:44.500 --> 03:11:46.290
you are The Commission,
03:11:46.290 --> 03:11:50.880
you Commissioners are tasked with
03:11:50.880 --> 03:11:53.430
determining the price of its poles,
03:11:53.430 --> 03:11:56.750
it's wires and meters.
03:11:56.750 --> 03:12:01.207
This is where your cooperation
is needed in order to prevent
03:12:01.207 --> 03:12:04.400
future climate catastrophe
03:12:05.630 --> 03:12:09.463
and stop the emissions of carbon.
03:12:10.550 --> 03:12:13.373
Thank you, Operator
the next caller please.
03:12:14.250 --> 03:12:16.490
The next
caller is Dina Fisher,
03:12:16.490 --> 03:12:17.993
your line is now open.
03:12:19.160 --> 03:12:21.710
Hello, I am a resident of
03:12:21.710 --> 03:12:24.230
Chatsworth Lake Manor and my community
03:12:24.230 --> 03:12:27.460
is one of the communities in L.A. County
03:12:27.460 --> 03:12:30.188
at most risk to wildfire.
03:12:30.188 --> 03:12:35.188
I'm calling with conditional
support for SCEs requests for
03:12:36.799 --> 03:12:39.290
the covered conductor program.
03:12:39.290 --> 03:12:43.951
I find that the turn analysis is faulty
03:12:43.951 --> 03:12:48.510
in especially in the
fact that the risk curve
03:12:48.510 --> 03:12:51.818
that they use to analyze
their recommendation.
03:12:51.818 --> 03:12:56.780
Considers only fires while
they burned for six hours.
03:12:56.780 --> 03:12:59.600
As you all know, fires in California,
03:12:59.600 --> 03:13:03.600
if they get out of control burns
for days, weeks and months
03:13:03.600 --> 03:13:07.736
and cost billions of dollars to arrest.
03:13:07.736 --> 03:13:10.630
So I'm why is my,
03:13:10.630 --> 03:13:12.900
why do I say that my
support is conditional?
03:13:12.900 --> 03:13:16.820
SCE needs to give us
much more information
03:13:16.820 --> 03:13:19.401
to justify the number
that they're asking.
03:13:19.401 --> 03:13:24.401
I support doing the
full 6,000 plus miles
03:13:25.410 --> 03:13:26.890
that they're requesting.
03:13:26.890 --> 03:13:30.100
However, I am concerned
with one of the issues
03:13:30.100 --> 03:13:31.230
that is valid,
03:13:31.230 --> 03:13:36.020
that turned did raise on
SCE between 2019 and 2021
03:13:37.550 --> 03:13:39.870
has only been able to,
03:13:39.870 --> 03:13:41.480
they optimistically hope to be able to
03:13:41.480 --> 03:13:46.337
do 2,500 miles in that two,
two and a half year timeframe.
03:13:46.337 --> 03:13:49.840
However, they are requesting funding
03:13:49.840 --> 03:13:54.639
to do almost double that
within the next two years.
03:13:54.639 --> 03:13:58.140
So I think it's great if
they can actually do that
03:13:58.140 --> 03:14:00.310
and if they are actually
committed to doing it,
03:14:00.310 --> 03:14:03.200
but I would like to see
proof of that commitment
03:14:03.200 --> 03:14:04.053
and ability.
03:14:04.053 --> 03:14:07.330
Thank you so much in our neighborhood.
03:14:07.330 --> 03:14:10.130
It is clear that the covered
conductors have lessened
03:14:10.130 --> 03:14:11.960
the PSPS events for us,
03:14:11.960 --> 03:14:16.590
which have been to say
the least incredibly dramatic
03:14:16.590 --> 03:14:19.310
and painful for our community
and we're all losing money
03:14:19.310 --> 03:14:21.000
every time that we can't work from home.
03:14:21.000 --> 03:14:23.239
This is a neighborhood
of sole proprietors
03:14:23.239 --> 03:14:25.240
and small business owners.
03:14:25.240 --> 03:14:26.933
Thank you so much for your time.
03:14:28.950 --> 03:14:30.750
Thank you for your call.
03:14:30.750 --> 03:14:32.653
Operator the next caller please.
03:14:33.560 --> 03:14:36.303
I'm showing no
further callers in the queue.
03:14:37.750 --> 03:14:39.240
Okay, thank you operator.
03:14:39.240 --> 03:14:42.644
I want to thank all those
who did call in today.
03:14:42.644 --> 03:14:45.790
There were a lot of people
who wanted to speak.
03:14:45.790 --> 03:14:47.450
We have at my count,
03:14:47.450 --> 03:14:51.250
86 callers that called in
and nearly everyone talked
03:14:51.250 --> 03:14:54.580
or wished to talk for their
full two minute timeframe.
03:14:54.580 --> 03:14:56.780
So it was a long wait.
03:14:56.780 --> 03:14:59.500
I apologize to those who
had to wait a long time,
03:14:59.500 --> 03:15:00.863
but thank you for doing so,
03:15:00.863 --> 03:15:03.930
because we do want to hear from you.
03:15:03.930 --> 03:15:05.493
So thank you very much.
03:15:06.410 --> 03:15:08.950
I, with no other callers on the line,
03:15:08.950 --> 03:15:10.910
the Public Commentary is now closed.
03:15:10.910 --> 03:15:12.513
Thank you, thank you Operator.
03:15:40.150 --> 03:15:41.571
[Commissioner
Rechtschaffen] Senator Batjer
03:15:41.571 --> 03:15:42.940
you are on mute.
03:15:42.940 --> 03:15:43.883
I'm sorry.
03:15:45.460 --> 03:15:47.170
Was I on mute this whole time?
03:15:47.170 --> 03:15:50.660
I wanted to thank all of the callers
03:15:50.660 --> 03:15:53.190
for their length of time in waiting,
03:15:53.190 --> 03:15:54.710
and I appreciated it very much.
03:15:54.710 --> 03:15:58.052
We had over 86 callers today.
03:15:58.052 --> 03:16:02.570
I think everyone who
waited the three plus hours
03:16:02.570 --> 03:16:03.890
on the line,
03:16:03.890 --> 03:16:08.190
I want to thank those
who could not get on
03:16:08.190 --> 03:16:10.552
or could not stay also.
03:16:10.552 --> 03:16:12.600
Okay, we're moving on.
03:16:12.600 --> 03:16:14.800
The Public Commentary is closed
03:16:14.800 --> 03:16:16.700
and we're now moving on in our agenda.
03:16:18.092 --> 03:16:22.475
Here are the agenda
changes for the day.
03:16:22.475 --> 03:16:24.829
Item 11 is withdrawn.
03:16:24.829 --> 03:16:29.675
Item 16 is held until the
August 19th, 2021 meeting,
03:16:29.675 --> 03:16:34.587
item 18 is held until the
August 19th, 2021 meeting,
03:16:34.587 --> 03:16:39.414
item 32 is held until the
August 19th, 2021 meeting,
03:16:39.414 --> 03:16:42.373
item 36 is withdrawn,
03:16:42.373 --> 03:16:47.373
items 37 is held until the
August 19th, 2021 hearing.
03:16:51.270 --> 03:16:55.440
Okay, we will now take
up the consent item.
03:16:55.440 --> 03:16:57.403
Is there a motion?
03:16:58.743 --> 03:17:01.209
I move.
03:17:01.209 --> 03:17:02.650
A second?
03:17:02.650 --> 03:17:04.977
I'll second the
motion, thank you.
03:17:04.977 --> 03:17:07.800
And thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
03:17:07.800 --> 03:17:09.930
It has been moved in seconds.
03:17:09.930 --> 03:17:13.773
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
03:17:16.210 --> 03:17:17.743
Commissioner Houck?
03:17:18.910 --> 03:17:19.743
Yes.
03:17:20.585 --> 03:17:23.309
Commissioner
Shiroma?
03:17:23.309 --> 03:17:24.142
Aye.
03:17:25.378 --> 03:17:27.663
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen?
03:17:27.663 --> 03:17:28.496
Yes.
03:17:29.950 --> 03:17:32.168
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves?
03:17:32.168 --> 03:17:33.001
Aye.
03:17:33.850 --> 03:17:35.660
President Batjer?
03:17:35.660 --> 03:17:36.910
Aye, thank you all.
03:17:36.910 --> 03:17:41.267
The vote is unanimous for
the Consent Agenda items.
03:17:41.267 --> 03:17:44.710
Commissioner Shiroma, I
think you wanted to speak
03:17:44.710 --> 03:17:47.560
on item 15.
03:17:47.560 --> 03:17:49.504
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
03:17:49.504 --> 03:17:54.504
If I wanted to highlight
that item 15 is our first track
03:17:57.050 --> 03:18:00.522
as a Commission's clean
energy financing rulemaking
03:18:00.522 --> 03:18:04.040
to design clean energy financing options
03:18:04.040 --> 03:18:06.633
for all electricity and natural gas
03:18:06.633 --> 03:18:09.380
investor owned utility customers.
03:18:09.380 --> 03:18:12.340
We held a two day
workshop back in January
03:18:12.340 --> 03:18:14.654
with many expert panels.
03:18:14.654 --> 03:18:19.654
This decision extends the
California Hub for Energy
03:18:19.670 --> 03:18:22.400
Efficiency Financing Programs,
03:18:22.400 --> 03:18:24.830
which we originally established in 2013
03:18:24.830 --> 03:18:29.830
and it is administered by
the States Treasurer's Office,
03:18:29.980 --> 03:18:33.760
the California Alternative
Energy and Advanced
03:18:33.760 --> 03:18:37.150
Transportation Financing
Authority, or CAEATFA.
03:18:38.890 --> 03:18:42.668
We have authorized
75.2 million for five years
03:18:42.668 --> 03:18:46.260
through June 30th, 2027.
03:18:46.260 --> 03:18:48.632
Importantly it authorizes CAEATFA
03:18:48.632 --> 03:18:50.635
to leverage its platform
03:18:50.635 --> 03:18:53.970
to also incorporate non investor owned
03:18:53.970 --> 03:18:55.780
utility rate payer funds
03:18:55.780 --> 03:18:57.990
to expand the reach of these programs.
03:18:57.990 --> 03:19:01.130
An example of a non IOU fund,
03:19:01.130 --> 03:19:03.900
is something supported
by a publicly owned utility
03:19:03.900 --> 03:19:05.180
like SMUD.
03:19:05.180 --> 03:19:08.760
We do have some additional
tracks that we're working on.
03:19:08.760 --> 03:19:12.300
I know we're all I would
like to thank CAEATFA,
03:19:12.300 --> 03:19:15.562
our initial objective is to
Ray Fithcer and Caroline Sisto
03:19:15.562 --> 03:19:17.410
my Batjer key partner
03:19:17.410 --> 03:19:19.167
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
and his advisors,
03:19:19.167 --> 03:19:23.090
Rose George, our legal divisions,
03:19:23.090 --> 03:19:26.940
Matthew Yurgovich and
the Energy Division Team,
03:19:26.940 --> 03:19:31.940
which includes Peter Fonzie,
Lorie Cox, Kevin Phasey.
03:19:32.810 --> 03:19:35.370
Hal Cain and Jen Halford,
03:19:35.370 --> 03:19:37.552
and the members of my team,
03:19:37.552 --> 03:19:40.770
my Chief of Staff legal
advisor Milan Tethwhile
03:19:40.770 --> 03:19:44.050
interview advisor, Sherwin
and our intern this summer,
03:19:44.050 --> 03:19:46.200
Carlos Siegal Real.
03:19:46.200 --> 03:19:48.125
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
03:19:48.125 --> 03:19:50.037
Back to you President Batjer.
03:19:51.251 --> 03:19:54.587
[President Batjer] Okay, thank
you, Commissioner Shiroma.
03:19:55.861 --> 03:19:58.720
And we are now moving on on the agenda
03:19:58.720 --> 03:20:00.883
to the regular agenda items.
03:20:02.910 --> 03:20:06.040
We will first take up item 33
03:20:06.040 --> 03:20:09.590
that is assigned to Director Randolph
03:20:09.590 --> 03:20:12.830
and Executive Director Rachel Peterson
03:20:12.830 --> 03:20:16.310
will make a presentation on this item,
03:20:16.310 --> 03:20:17.683
item 33, Rachel.
03:20:21.690 --> 03:20:23.320
Good afternoon,
President Batjer
03:20:23.320 --> 03:20:24.650
and Commissioners.
03:20:24.650 --> 03:20:28.023
Thank you for the
opportunity to present today.
03:20:28.023 --> 03:20:32.263
The draft resolution M-4855,
03:20:33.670 --> 03:20:36.870
addressing the Commission's direction
03:20:36.870 --> 03:20:39.500
to place an independent safety monitor
03:20:39.500 --> 03:20:43.177
within Pacific Gas and Electric or PG&E.
03:20:43.177 --> 03:20:45.303
Can you go to the next slide please?
03:20:50.740 --> 03:20:53.070
My name is Rachel
Peterson, Executive Director.
03:20:53.070 --> 03:20:56.513
Apologies, I forgot to
clarify that on the first slide.
03:20:57.410 --> 03:21:02.410
I wanted to start the presentation
with locating this within
03:21:02.880 --> 03:21:06.401
several other safety related
actions that this Commission
03:21:06.401 --> 03:21:09.940
has taken and is taking
with respect to PG&E.
03:21:10.890 --> 03:21:14.866
In April, you voted to
place PG&E into step one
03:21:14.866 --> 03:21:18.158
of the Enhanced Oversight
and Enforcement Process
03:21:18.158 --> 03:21:20.720
based on findings that
03:21:20.720 --> 03:21:24.480
they were not appropriately
risk prioritizing their enhanced
03:21:24.480 --> 03:21:27.021
vegetation management activities.
03:21:27.021 --> 03:21:29.024
Just Tuesday this week,
03:21:29.024 --> 03:21:33.700
you held a public briefing
on the utilities preparedness
03:21:33.700 --> 03:21:36.143
for public safety, power shutoff events.
03:21:38.010 --> 03:21:41.690
Just with the Consent Agenda
that you voted on just now
03:21:41.690 --> 03:21:45.288
you directed PG&E to enhance
their reporting requirements
03:21:45.288 --> 03:21:49.270
within their public safety
power shut off event,
03:21:49.270 --> 03:21:50.803
post event reporting.
03:21:51.893 --> 03:21:54.206
On August 25th,
03:21:54.206 --> 03:21:58.760
you're going to hold a
Commission and Office of Energy
03:21:58.760 --> 03:22:03.280
Infrastructure Safety Briefing
by Pacific Gas and Electric
03:22:03.280 --> 03:22:06.293
on their request for
safety certification.
03:22:08.650 --> 03:22:11.030
From an earlier decision, you,
03:22:11.030 --> 03:22:14.840
This Commission has directed
PG&E to create a mobile app
03:22:14.840 --> 03:22:17.620
for customers to report
electric infrastructure
03:22:17.620 --> 03:22:21.660
safety concerns across
their service territory.
03:22:21.660 --> 03:22:25.341
That app is scheduled
to be released in August.
03:22:25.341 --> 03:22:27.220
And then finally,
03:22:27.220 --> 03:22:29.347
as you've heard at two presentations
03:22:29.347 --> 03:22:31.437
at recent Commission meetings,
03:22:31.437 --> 03:22:34.700
the staff of our Safety
and Enforcement Division
03:22:34.700 --> 03:22:37.950
is overseeing safety
initiatives that follow
03:22:37.950 --> 03:22:41.550
from two large
investigations and settlements.
03:22:41.550 --> 03:22:45.810
The first into PG&E's Natural
Gas System located in Marc
03:22:46.674 --> 03:22:49.920
investigation and the
second these investigation
03:22:49.920 --> 03:22:53.463
and settlements following
the 2017, 2018 wildfires.
03:22:54.700 --> 03:22:57.810
So with that, I'll turn to
the resolution at hand.
03:22:57.810 --> 03:22:58.853
Next slide, please.
03:23:00.838 --> 03:23:05.000
As a condition of PG&E
exiting from bankruptcy,
03:23:05.000 --> 03:23:07.460
this Commission
directed the creation of an
03:23:07.460 --> 03:23:09.260
independent safety monitor
03:23:09.260 --> 03:23:13.400
to report to the CPUC with functional
03:23:13.400 --> 03:23:17.420
equivalent to the federal
safety monitors that has been
03:23:17.420 --> 03:23:21.380
operating since the federal
criminal court proceeding has
03:23:21.380 --> 03:23:23.070
been going on.
03:23:23.070 --> 03:23:24.143
Next slide please.
03:23:26.028 --> 03:23:31.028
In crossing the scope of
work we thought to compliment
03:23:31.260 --> 03:23:36.040
and not unnecessarily overlap
with the numerous safety
03:23:36.040 --> 03:23:37.840
initiatives that are going on with,
03:23:37.840 --> 03:23:39.590
with respect to PG&E,
03:23:39.590 --> 03:23:41.700
both here at the Commission and at
03:23:41.700 --> 03:23:45.340
the New Office of Energy
Infrastructure Safety.
03:23:45.340 --> 03:23:46.303
Next slide please.
03:23:48.170 --> 03:23:51.920
And so in order to compliment
that work, what we've focused,
03:23:51.920 --> 03:23:54.910
the scope for this monitor on is
03:23:54.910 --> 03:23:57.687
to monitor and alert Commission Staff
03:23:57.687 --> 03:24:01.040
about whether PGNE is implementing
03:24:01.040 --> 03:24:02.770
it's highest priority,
03:24:02.770 --> 03:24:07.730
risk driven safety mitigations
across all lines of business,
03:24:07.730 --> 03:24:10.790
not just electric, but gas as well.
03:24:10.790 --> 03:24:14.001
And then second to very
much focused on PG&E's,
03:24:14.001 --> 03:24:17.963
safety related recordkeeping
and records management system.
03:24:19.080 --> 03:24:22.580
Any revisions to that scope
can be proposed either by the
03:24:22.580 --> 03:24:26.148
Monitor or by the Commission
Staff and brought to you
03:24:26.148 --> 03:24:30.480
or to the Executive
Director for approval.
03:24:30.480 --> 03:24:31.453
Next slide, please.
03:24:33.830 --> 03:24:36.110
The relationship is one in which
03:24:36.110 --> 03:24:40.170
the Independent Safety
Monitor is going to work
03:24:40.170 --> 03:24:43.377
for and be directed by the Commission.
03:24:43.377 --> 03:24:46.986
The Monitor will provide a public report
03:24:46.986 --> 03:24:48.960
summarizing their activities
03:24:48.960 --> 03:24:51.870
every six months to this Commission.
03:24:51.870 --> 03:24:55.610
The Monitor will also meet
regularly with Commission staff
03:24:55.610 --> 03:24:59.740
on a confidential basis to
report on its safety oversight
03:24:59.740 --> 03:25:01.930
and any concerns.
03:25:01.930 --> 03:25:06.030
The contractual relationship
is directly with PG&E,
03:25:06.030 --> 03:25:09.850
but the consulting advising
and reporting relationship is
03:25:09.850 --> 03:25:11.023
with the Commission.
03:25:12.010 --> 03:25:12.973
Next slide, please.
03:25:15.510 --> 03:25:18.400
We've established a
budget in this last resolution
03:25:18.400 --> 03:25:20.700
of up to $5 million per year,
03:25:20.700 --> 03:25:24.890
unless modified, the
term is for five years.
03:25:24.890 --> 03:25:29.510
And the resolution denies
PG&E's requests to establish
03:25:29.510 --> 03:25:33.780
a memorandum account
for possible future requests
03:25:33.780 --> 03:25:35.590
for rate payer recovery
03:25:35.590 --> 03:25:38.230
and instead says that PG&E shareholders
03:25:38.230 --> 03:25:40.383
shall pay for the costs of this Monitor.
03:25:41.980 --> 03:25:42.983
Next slide please.
03:25:45.740 --> 03:25:47.387
On an administrative basis,
03:25:47.387 --> 03:25:52.387
The Safety Policy Division
will lead the process of
03:25:52.678 --> 03:25:54.570
reviewing bids,
03:25:54.570 --> 03:25:58.958
interviewing bidders,
presenting bidders for
03:25:58.958 --> 03:26:02.516
my ultimate selection and approval
03:26:02.516 --> 03:26:05.860
and reviewing any
potential conflicts of interest
03:26:05.860 --> 03:26:08.313
or the appearance
of conflicts of interest.
03:26:09.424 --> 03:26:11.083
Next slide please.
03:26:12.090 --> 03:26:16.757
And if you vote this vote to
approve this resolution today,
03:26:16.757 --> 03:26:21.630
then we are on a schedule
to ensure that the selection is
03:26:21.630 --> 03:26:23.540
conducted by November
03:26:23.540 --> 03:26:26.700
and that the Monitor begins
their duties in January.
03:26:26.700 --> 03:26:30.260
We anticipate that the Federal
Monitor is going to conclude
03:26:30.260 --> 03:26:33.060
its duties by February of 2022.
03:26:35.236 --> 03:26:36.833
And the next slide, please.
03:26:38.340 --> 03:26:40.167
Here I included an appendix
03:26:40.167 --> 03:26:43.010
because we've been speaking about all
03:26:43.010 --> 03:26:46.064
the different safety initiatives
that have been implemented
03:26:46.064 --> 03:26:48.100
in about the last five years,
03:26:48.100 --> 03:26:51.210
which is when the
Federal Monitor has had its
03:26:53.430 --> 03:26:57.580
has been working within
that federal criminal court case
03:26:57.580 --> 03:26:59.810
and I just wanted to list them all here
03:26:59.810 --> 03:27:01.760
because they are extensive
03:27:01.760 --> 03:27:06.170
and this Monitor is
intended to fit within them,
03:27:06.170 --> 03:27:07.670
compliment them,
03:27:07.670 --> 03:27:12.670
and also continue to inform us
at the Commission about PG&Es
03:27:12.790 --> 03:27:13.873
safety performance.
03:27:15.310 --> 03:27:17.700
That concludes my
presentation Commissioners.
03:27:17.700 --> 03:27:19.340
I'm happy to answer any questions.
03:27:19.340 --> 03:27:20.453
Thank you very much.
03:27:22.440 --> 03:27:24.270
Thank you, Rachel.
03:27:24.270 --> 03:27:25.840
Let me turn to the Commissioners
03:27:25.840 --> 03:27:28.342
to see if they have any questions.
03:27:28.342 --> 03:27:29.260
(indistinct)
03:27:29.260 --> 03:27:30.220
Speak up, please
03:27:33.310 --> 03:27:37.760
Present Batjer this is-
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
03:27:37.760 --> 03:27:39.810
Thank you, thank
you Director Peterson.
03:27:39.810 --> 03:27:41.660
I know we heard from
the public about their
03:27:41.660 --> 03:27:45.240
urgency and request to
move to a higher threshold
03:27:45.240 --> 03:27:46.760
and I wonder if you could speak to that
03:27:46.760 --> 03:27:49.363
in terms of what's the
next step would be to,
03:27:51.100 --> 03:27:54.703
to get to any further
level beyond this bubble.
03:27:55.896 --> 03:27:58.674
Commissioner, thank
you for the question.
03:27:58.674 --> 03:28:03.674
The initial step one that
we've placed the company in
03:28:04.618 --> 03:28:07.700
is on the basis of
extensive fact finding
03:28:07.700 --> 03:28:09.660
that we've been conducting
03:28:09.660 --> 03:28:13.140
and the staff continues
to conduct that fact finding
03:28:13.140 --> 03:28:16.500
with respect to both
the corrective actions
03:28:16.500 --> 03:28:18.250
that are identified for that step one,
03:28:18.250 --> 03:28:22.419
which are focused on the
company's enhanced veggie
03:28:22.419 --> 03:28:23.480
management activities.
03:28:23.480 --> 03:28:27.200
But we also continue
to examine safety reports
03:28:27.200 --> 03:28:29.403
and safety trends at the company.
03:28:30.374 --> 03:28:35.300
The process for moving to a
different step would be similar
03:28:35.300 --> 03:28:37.330
to what we've presented
to you in the past,
03:28:37.330 --> 03:28:41.230
which would be another
resolution articulating the facts
03:28:41.230 --> 03:28:45.220
as a basis for possible
additional actions.
03:28:52.143 --> 03:28:54.560
Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
go ahead please, yes.
03:28:54.560 --> 03:28:56.780
Thank you, I very briefly,
03:28:56.780 --> 03:29:00.061
I want to thank Director
Peterson for her presentation
03:29:00.061 --> 03:29:02.260
and all the work that she and staff
03:29:02.260 --> 03:29:03.670
and senior management have done
03:29:03.670 --> 03:29:07.635
putting this together and
the numerous and extensive
03:29:07.635 --> 03:29:10.250
close monitoring and enforcement actions
03:29:10.250 --> 03:29:12.530
that she just articulated.
03:29:12.530 --> 03:29:14.360
I want to highlight two things.
03:29:14.360 --> 03:29:19.360
One, the cost of the Monitor
will be completely paid
03:29:19.365 --> 03:29:20.970
by shareholders.
03:29:20.970 --> 03:29:24.240
That was an issue as
Director Peterson noted
03:29:24.240 --> 03:29:25.710
that was raised by PG&E,
03:29:25.710 --> 03:29:29.170
but the need for the
Monitor arises out of PG&E's
03:29:29.170 --> 03:29:31.570
recurring safety transgressions,
03:29:31.570 --> 03:29:33.480
and it's appropriate
that the shareholders
03:29:33.480 --> 03:29:37.096
bear the costs of the Monitor.
03:29:37.096 --> 03:29:42.096
Secondly, even though
there's a lot of eyes on PG&E,
03:29:42.780 --> 03:29:46.885
the Independent Safety
Monitor plays a unique role
03:29:46.885 --> 03:29:49.932
as a Director Peterson mentioned
03:29:49.932 --> 03:29:52.610
the role is designed to compliment,
03:29:52.610 --> 03:29:54.890
not overlap other efforts.
03:29:54.890 --> 03:29:58.307
And in particular, the
roles modeled after that of
03:29:58.307 --> 03:30:01.770
the Federal monitor who's
been monitoring PG&E
03:30:01.770 --> 03:30:04.820
as the condition of
its criminal probation
03:30:04.820 --> 03:30:06.410
and our understanding
03:30:06.410 --> 03:30:08.900
and our experiences that
that Monitor has played
03:30:08.900 --> 03:30:11.740
a important and distinct role
03:30:11.740 --> 03:30:14.530
in helping keep PG&E accountable
03:30:14.530 --> 03:30:17.080
and prove its safety performance.
03:30:17.080 --> 03:30:20.330
So it's important that
this monitor position fulfill
03:30:20.330 --> 03:30:21.413
and continue the role that,
03:30:21.413 --> 03:30:23.850
that Federal Monitors placed.
03:30:23.850 --> 03:30:24.993
Thank you very much.
03:30:27.410 --> 03:30:30.775
Thank you Cliff,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
03:30:30.775 --> 03:30:33.313
Commissioner Houck do
you have a question as well?
03:30:34.170 --> 03:30:35.200
I don't have a question,
03:30:35.200 --> 03:30:38.090
I just wanted to thank
Executive Director,
03:30:38.090 --> 03:30:39.628
Rachel Peterson for
03:30:39.628 --> 03:30:42.210
the briefing today and for the briefing
03:30:42.210 --> 03:30:45.230
that she gave my office
prior to prior to today.
03:30:45.230 --> 03:30:47.250
And so the work that her staff and our,
03:30:47.250 --> 03:30:49.740
our legal office had done in regards to
03:30:49.740 --> 03:30:51.530
getting this resolution out.
03:30:51.530 --> 03:30:52.427
So thank you.
03:30:55.099 --> 03:30:58.020
Okay, Commissioner Shiroma.
03:30:58.020 --> 03:30:59.550
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
03:30:59.550 --> 03:31:04.550
I just wanted to also
express appreciation for,
03:31:04.990 --> 03:31:09.359
especially the revisions and
the resolution that strengthen
03:31:09.359 --> 03:31:13.820
the relationship between the
Independent Safety and Monitor
03:31:13.820 --> 03:31:15.450
and the CPUC,
03:31:15.450 --> 03:31:19.440
which really go to
supporting our oversight
03:31:19.440 --> 03:31:22.381
of PG&E's activities.
03:31:22.381 --> 03:31:27.381
And it is very important
that in a real time manner,
03:31:30.160 --> 03:31:34.300
that we are monitoring
PG&E's activities,
03:31:34.300 --> 03:31:36.955
as it relates to the various steps,
03:31:36.955 --> 03:31:41.940
we were prescriptive in those steps
03:31:42.910 --> 03:31:47.910
and all geared towards
holding utility accountable.
03:31:48.786 --> 03:31:52.303
Thank you, I support this resolution.
03:31:54.210 --> 03:31:56.070
Thank you very much
Commissioner Shiroma
03:31:56.070 --> 03:31:57.970
and Rachel, indeed.
03:31:57.970 --> 03:32:00.490
I join my fellow
Commissioners in voicing,
03:32:00.490 --> 03:32:03.352
our great appreciation to
all the hard work that you
03:32:03.352 --> 03:32:07.040
and staff, I mean, we worked hard, even,
03:32:07.040 --> 03:32:10.196
even going back to
when we first developed
03:32:10.196 --> 03:32:11.440
the six steps
03:32:11.440 --> 03:32:16.440
and how hard you and
staff worked in doing that.
03:32:16.570 --> 03:32:19.480
So thank you again very, very much.
03:32:19.480 --> 03:32:24.147
And we will be taking
a vote on number 33,
03:32:26.540 --> 03:32:29.453
or is there any other
discussion at this time?
03:32:31.475 --> 03:32:32.308
No Questions?
03:32:32.308 --> 03:32:34.100
Okay, seeing none.
03:32:34.100 --> 03:32:36.250
Will the Agenda Clerk
please call the roll.
03:32:38.480 --> 03:32:39.623
Commissioner Houck?
03:32:40.697 --> 03:32:41.530
Yes.
03:32:42.846 --> 03:32:44.591
Commissioner
Shiroma?
03:32:44.591 --> 03:32:45.424
Aye.
03:32:46.934 --> 03:32:49.012
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
03:32:49.012 --> 03:32:50.192
Yes.
03:32:50.192 --> 03:32:52.628
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
03:32:52.628 --> 03:32:54.180
Aye.
03:32:54.180 --> 03:32:56.810
President Batjer.
03:32:56.810 --> 03:33:01.503
Aye, the vote for item
number 33 is unanimous.
03:33:01.503 --> 03:33:04.003
And I want to thank everyone
very much, thank you.
03:33:04.980 --> 03:33:07.317
Moving now to item 34.
03:33:07.317 --> 03:33:12.317
It is assigned to me this order
extending statutory deadline
03:33:12.540 --> 03:33:14.760
is for the PG&E's application to
03:33:14.760 --> 03:33:17.340
recover insurance costs reported
03:33:17.340 --> 03:33:20.060
in its wildfire expense
memorandum account,
03:33:20.060 --> 03:33:22.920
also known as Lima.
03:33:22.920 --> 03:33:27.920
The proceeding experienced
delays due to COVID pandemic
03:33:28.330 --> 03:33:30.782
and parties twice requested
03:33:30.782 --> 03:33:33.290
a schedule modifications to provide
03:33:33.290 --> 03:33:36.453
additional time to finalize
settlement negotiations.
03:33:37.540 --> 03:33:41.200
On June 30th, 2021, PG&E
and Cal-Am Advocates
03:33:41.200 --> 03:33:46.000
in turn filed a motion for
adoption of the settlement.
03:33:46.000 --> 03:33:48.440
An extension of the statutory deadline
03:33:48.440 --> 03:33:53.043
from August 8th, 2021
to December 31st, 2021,
03:33:53.929 --> 03:33:58.929
will allow the ALJ to
review the settlement
03:33:59.080 --> 03:34:01.318
and draft a decision.
03:34:01.318 --> 03:34:04.780
We're hoping that it will be
done before that timeframe
03:34:04.780 --> 03:34:06.720
at the timeframe that's being asked
03:34:06.720 --> 03:34:10.670
in terms of the order
ordering extension.
03:34:10.670 --> 03:34:14.079
So I request your support on item 34.
03:34:14.079 --> 03:34:15.913
Is there any discussion?
03:34:18.140 --> 03:34:19.280
Okay, seeing none,
03:34:19.280 --> 03:34:21.430
will the Agenda Clerk
please call the roll.
03:34:22.610 --> 03:34:24.659
Commissioner Houck?
03:34:24.659 --> 03:34:25.492
Yes.
03:34:26.401 --> 03:34:28.225
Commissioner
Shiroma?
03:34:28.225 --> 03:34:29.851
Aye.
03:34:29.851 --> 03:34:31.870
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen?
03:34:31.870 --> 03:34:32.703
Yes.
03:34:33.832 --> 03:34:36.050
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves?
03:34:36.050 --> 03:34:37.368
Aye.
03:34:37.368 --> 03:34:39.500
President Batjer?
03:34:39.500 --> 03:34:42.950
Aye, the vote on
item 34 is unanimous.
03:34:42.950 --> 03:34:45.707
Thank you all, moving now to item 35
03:34:45.707 --> 03:34:47.857
and that is assigned
to Commissioner Houck.
03:34:48.965 --> 03:34:51.020
Thank you, President Batjer.
03:34:51.020 --> 03:34:53.800
This is an order to extend
the statutory deadline
03:34:53.800 --> 03:34:58.800
and rulemaking 14-10-003
to September 15th, 2021.
03:34:59.700 --> 03:35:02.880
The rulemaking is working
towards creating a consistent
03:35:02.880 --> 03:35:05.370
regulatory framework
for the guidance planning
03:35:05.370 --> 03:35:09.396
and evaluation of integrated
distributed energy resources.
03:35:09.396 --> 03:35:12.780
The OYR should remain
open to allow time to complete
03:35:12.780 --> 03:35:15.620
the current major avoided
cost calculator update,
03:35:15.620 --> 03:35:17.260
which is in progress.
03:35:17.260 --> 03:35:19.730
I ask for your support
to extend the deadline
03:35:19.730 --> 03:35:22.550
to September 15th, 2021.
03:35:22.550 --> 03:35:24.670
An additional extension will probably,
03:35:24.670 --> 03:35:27.410
will be needed once we
03:35:27.410 --> 03:35:29.300
have a better estimate
as the time needed
03:35:29.300 --> 03:35:30.670
to complete that process.
03:35:30.670 --> 03:35:33.713
But I ask for your
support in this extension.
03:35:37.070 --> 03:35:39.400
Thank you very much
Commissioner Houck.
03:35:39.400 --> 03:35:44.343
Are there any questions or
for the discussion on item 35?
03:35:45.810 --> 03:35:46.720
Okay, seeing none.
03:35:46.720 --> 03:35:48.870
Will the Agenda Clerk
please call the roll.
03:35:50.050 --> 03:35:51.674
Commissioner Houck?
03:35:51.674 --> 03:35:52.507
Yes.
03:35:53.343 --> 03:35:55.690
Commissioner
Shiroma?
03:35:55.690 --> 03:35:56.523
Aye.
03:35:57.444 --> 03:35:58.277
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen?
03:35:59.410 --> 03:36:00.243
Yes.
03:36:01.570 --> 03:36:03.771
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves?
03:36:03.771 --> 03:36:05.047
Aye.
03:36:05.047 --> 03:36:07.408
President Batjer?
03:36:07.408 --> 03:36:12.010
Aye, the vote on item 35
is unanimous, thank you.
03:36:12.010 --> 03:36:16.650
Moving on on the agenda
to the management report,
03:36:16.650 --> 03:36:19.340
there is no report for item 38,
03:36:19.340 --> 03:36:21.640
which is the management
report and discussion
03:36:21.640 --> 03:36:25.640
on recent consumer
protection and safety activities.
03:36:25.640 --> 03:36:28.470
There is no report for item 39,
03:36:28.470 --> 03:36:30.830
which is the management
report and discussion
03:36:30.830 --> 03:36:33.420
on administrative activities.
03:36:33.420 --> 03:36:36.512
Now we will turn to the
Commissioners Reports,
03:36:36.512 --> 03:36:38.403
who would like to go first?
03:36:41.628 --> 03:36:43.240
(President Batjer laughs)
03:36:43.240 --> 03:36:46.578
Don't you all come
running to the finish line,
03:36:46.578 --> 03:36:48.160
Commissioner Houck
03:36:48.160 --> 03:36:50.156
Okay, it's Martha
who wants to go.
03:36:50.156 --> 03:36:51.680
That's fine-
Oh I'm sorry, Martha you-
03:36:51.680 --> 03:36:53.390
Go ahead, no go ahead Darcie.
03:36:53.390 --> 03:36:56.130
I've got room on my
layout for all five of us
03:36:56.130 --> 03:36:58.580
so I have to toggle back and forth.
03:36:58.580 --> 03:37:00.033
I apologize, Martha.
03:37:03.070 --> 03:37:06.260
Okay Martha, did you want
me to go or did you want to go?
03:37:06.260 --> 03:37:07.963
Yes, please, go ahead.
Okay.
03:37:10.110 --> 03:37:12.880
So I just want to take a moment
03:37:12.880 --> 03:37:15.910
to acknowledge as
President Batjer did earlier in,
03:37:15.910 --> 03:37:16.760
in her comments,
03:37:16.760 --> 03:37:19.090
the devastation caused by the Dixie Fire
03:37:19.090 --> 03:37:20.820
in the town of Greenville.
03:37:20.820 --> 03:37:23.810
And my heart does go out to
the community of Greenville,
03:37:23.810 --> 03:37:26.350
to the Greenville Ranch
Area and its citizens
03:37:26.350 --> 03:37:29.560
who have been devastated by this fire.
03:37:29.560 --> 03:37:32.920
We have lost yet another
town to catastrophic wildfires
03:37:32.920 --> 03:37:34.920
and these devastating wildfires
03:37:34.920 --> 03:37:37.570
have occurred over
and over in recent years.
03:37:37.570 --> 03:37:39.930
And this fire like the ones before it is
03:37:39.930 --> 03:37:41.970
not only a call for us to act on the
03:37:41.970 --> 03:37:44.390
mitigation and adaption
measures needed to
03:37:44.390 --> 03:37:46.520
address climate change impact,
03:37:46.520 --> 03:37:50.110
but also for the Commission
and the utilities we regulate
03:37:50.110 --> 03:37:51.510
to reassess our approach
03:37:51.510 --> 03:37:53.950
to how we address
wildfire prevention measures
03:37:53.950 --> 03:37:55.490
and accountability.
03:37:55.490 --> 03:37:57.690
As well as the system
hardening requirements
03:37:59.270 --> 03:38:02.060
as we're living through
these tragedies year after year,
03:38:02.060 --> 03:38:03.170
which is unacceptable.
03:38:03.170 --> 03:38:05.640
So I believe that myself
03:38:05.640 --> 03:38:07.400
and all of the Commissioners are going
03:38:07.400 --> 03:38:11.554
to be taking a hard look
at the current situation
03:38:11.554 --> 03:38:15.350
and looking at how we are going
03:38:15.350 --> 03:38:18.470
to be addressing these
issues going forward.
03:38:18.470 --> 03:38:21.260
So I wanted to make those
comments and then just briefly
03:38:21.260 --> 03:38:24.944
provide an update on some
of the activities since our last
03:38:24.944 --> 03:38:27.130
voting meeting that I attended
03:38:27.130 --> 03:38:30.348
our Disadvantaged
Advisory Committee Group
03:38:30.348 --> 03:38:33.050
to talk about Distributed
Energy Resource,
03:38:33.050 --> 03:38:37.910
some OIR and Distributed
Energy Resource Action Plan.
03:38:37.910 --> 03:38:40.030
I attended the
neighborhood summer events
03:38:40.030 --> 03:38:43.940
that were held the week of July 19th.
03:38:43.940 --> 03:38:47.770
I also attended our
geo 156 OIR workshop,
03:38:47.770 --> 03:38:50.070
and I want to thank
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
03:38:50.070 --> 03:38:51.920
for his leadership on this effort.
03:38:51.920 --> 03:38:55.395
I learned a lot from the
presentations and looking forward
03:38:55.395 --> 03:38:58.840
to seeing how that process progresses
03:38:58.840 --> 03:39:02.464
and the further events in October.
03:39:02.464 --> 03:39:05.740
I want to thank my adviser, Candace Cho,
03:39:05.740 --> 03:39:10.060
and my Chief of Staff
Panay Demarion for their work
03:39:10.060 --> 03:39:11.940
in making sure that I was prepared
03:39:11.940 --> 03:39:15.120
and up to speed on these issues.
03:39:15.120 --> 03:39:18.420
I also attended the
California Energy Commission,
03:39:18.420 --> 03:39:20.450
Integrated Energy Policy Report,
03:39:20.450 --> 03:39:22.300
Commissioner Workshop on Hydrogen
03:39:22.300 --> 03:39:25.325
to support California's
clean energy transition.
03:39:25.325 --> 03:39:28.150
This is an area I'm
endeavoring to learn more about
03:39:28.150 --> 03:39:31.720
as we explore options for clean
from dispatchable resources,
03:39:31.720 --> 03:39:34.100
as well as the transition to
03:39:34.100 --> 03:39:38.220
decarbonized fuel for
our transportation sector.
03:39:38.220 --> 03:39:40.270
I learned a lot from the presentations
03:39:40.270 --> 03:39:42.250
and look I forward to learning more
03:39:42.250 --> 03:39:43.290
as we move through
03:39:44.507 --> 03:39:47.420
our transition and looking at the future
03:39:47.420 --> 03:39:49.905
of our natural gas industry.
03:39:49.905 --> 03:39:51.580
On July 30th,
03:39:51.580 --> 03:39:54.490
I attended the California
Tribal Broadband Connectivity
03:39:54.490 --> 03:39:56.760
Partnership, virtual summit,
03:39:56.760 --> 03:40:00.240
and participated on a panel
to discuss our tribal assistance
03:40:00.240 --> 03:40:03.750
grants and the CPUC tribal
partnerships that we have.
03:40:03.750 --> 03:40:06.240
It was a great opportunity
to hear from tribal leaders
03:40:06.240 --> 03:40:07.990
regarding tribal broadband needs,
03:40:07.990 --> 03:40:11.504
as well as how tribes are
utilizing our programs to expand
03:40:11.504 --> 03:40:15.090
their broad brand
infrastructure in Indian country.
03:40:15.090 --> 03:40:17.490
I want to thank Rob
Osborne and his team,
03:40:17.490 --> 03:40:20.830
particularly Karen Eckersley
and for all of their work in
03:40:20.830 --> 03:40:24.740
assisting with the summit
and Rob's role in moderating.
03:40:24.740 --> 03:40:25.950
I want to thank Ken Holbrook,
03:40:25.950 --> 03:40:29.950
our tribal advisor for his work
in coordinating with various
03:40:29.950 --> 03:40:32.109
tribes in the State on broadband issues.
03:40:32.109 --> 03:40:35.790
And again, recognize the historic events
03:40:35.790 --> 03:40:37.100
of the recent legislation
03:40:37.100 --> 03:40:40.320
and all of the work that
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
03:40:40.320 --> 03:40:43.570
President Batjer and OJIR,
03:40:43.570 --> 03:40:46.323
our communications division folks have
03:40:46.323 --> 03:40:49.203
have done in getting
that across the finish line.
03:40:50.750 --> 03:40:53.520
I also attended the 12th
annual California Climate and
03:40:53.520 --> 03:40:55.110
Energy Collaborative Forum
03:40:55.110 --> 03:40:58.720
to discuss clean energy future
03:40:58.720 --> 03:41:01.119
and local government opportunities.
03:41:01.119 --> 03:41:04.546
And the, I also attended the IO,
03:41:04.546 --> 03:41:08.388
the Investor on Utility Owned
Workshops this week regarding
03:41:08.388 --> 03:41:12.780
readiness for the 2020
Public Safety Power Shutoff,
03:41:12.780 --> 03:41:15.300
which was very informative
03:41:15.300 --> 03:41:17.470
and very important information there.
03:41:17.470 --> 03:41:22.470
And I attended my first
meeting as the PUC delegate
03:41:22.880 --> 03:41:23.990
for President Batjer's,
03:41:23.990 --> 03:41:26.440
the California Broadband
Council yesterday.
03:41:26.440 --> 03:41:28.930
And I'm looking forward
to being a part of that group
03:41:28.930 --> 03:41:32.030
and contributing to implementation
03:41:32.030 --> 03:41:33.510
of the recent legislation.
03:41:33.510 --> 03:41:36.113
And with that, I will
conclude my report.
03:41:38.240 --> 03:41:40.470
Thank you, Commissioner Houck.
03:41:40.470 --> 03:41:42.123
Now, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
03:41:43.040 --> 03:41:44.597
Thank you President Batjer.
03:41:46.100 --> 03:41:48.510
Many of the comments that we heard today
03:41:48.510 --> 03:41:53.510
were discussing the petition
that was made by the shippers
03:41:53.740 --> 03:41:57.783
indicator shippers for an
increase in the withdraw level,
03:41:59.320 --> 03:42:02.139
excuse me, for the
inventory levels in Aliso.
03:42:02.139 --> 03:42:05.486
And certainly we heard
many of them calling for
03:42:05.486 --> 03:42:07.068
urgent actions
03:42:07.068 --> 03:42:11.370
and our Governor has declared
an emergency proclamation
03:42:11.370 --> 03:42:12.908
that you mentioned President Batjer
03:42:12.908 --> 03:42:16.510
to reinforce the need for urgent action.
03:42:16.510 --> 03:42:19.400
As we continue to face these
03:42:19.400 --> 03:42:22.940
very catastrophic impacts from climate.
03:42:22.940 --> 03:42:24.580
And I do want to recognize,
03:42:24.580 --> 03:42:28.460
and acknowledge the
role that methane does play
03:42:28.460 --> 03:42:29.817
in warming the climate.
03:42:29.817 --> 03:42:33.810
They want it to just reflect
on the workshop that we had
03:42:33.810 --> 03:42:36.940
and that many of you
participated in over a month ago.
03:42:36.940 --> 03:42:39.065
We've already talked
about it as part of the
03:42:39.065 --> 03:42:42.210
Energy Commissions, the IEPR process.
03:42:42.210 --> 03:42:44.450
We focused on the electric and gas,
03:42:44.450 --> 03:42:47.533
reliability issues that
we're facing this winter.
03:42:48.500 --> 03:42:51.100
We did have a day focused on Aliso
03:42:51.100 --> 03:42:55.680
and particularly what the
impacts are going into the winter.
03:42:55.680 --> 03:42:57.884
What the impacts will be if,
03:42:57.884 --> 03:43:01.610
if, when the facility is closed
03:43:01.610 --> 03:43:03.860
and during the workshop of
03:43:03.860 --> 03:43:06.790
one of the consultants that is,
03:43:06.790 --> 03:43:09.540
is doing what we're
calling the phase three,
03:43:09.540 --> 03:43:11.220
of the Aliso proceeding,
03:43:11.220 --> 03:43:14.140
that's looking at the
alternatives to our dependency
03:43:14.140 --> 03:43:15.830
on Aliso as these,
03:43:15.830 --> 03:43:19.300
this consulting group
is called FTI Consulting.
03:43:19.300 --> 03:43:24.300
One of our staff presented
their current results.
03:43:24.370 --> 03:43:25.798
There'll be, FTI will be
03:43:25.798 --> 03:43:29.810
soon releasing their final
results of our modeling,
03:43:29.810 --> 03:43:33.749
which will tell us what
the shortfall is of Aliso
03:43:33.749 --> 03:43:36.110
if it would have closed in 2027,
03:43:36.110 --> 03:43:39.092
and if it were to close in 2035.
03:43:39.092 --> 03:43:41.870
And of course they're
going to be presenting
03:43:41.870 --> 03:43:43.760
the options for us as we go through
03:43:43.760 --> 03:43:45.720
the proceedings of how to meet the
03:43:45.720 --> 03:43:48.973
shortfall for both summer
and winter reliability.
03:43:50.680 --> 03:43:53.148
So there's many,
03:43:53.148 --> 03:43:56.850
many pieces in many alternatives
03:43:56.850 --> 03:43:58.500
that they'll be looking at
03:43:58.500 --> 03:44:00.958
both on the gas infrastructure side,
03:44:00.958 --> 03:44:04.200
and also on the
alternatives to gas side,
03:44:04.200 --> 03:44:08.870
be that electrification and
certainly the need to replace
03:44:08.870 --> 03:44:11.586
our gas generation in the basin
03:44:11.586 --> 03:44:14.940
with clean generation in the basin.
03:44:14.940 --> 03:44:17.810
And I want to acknowledge
just as we had at the workshop,
03:44:17.810 --> 03:44:22.280
we had LADWP and many
of the new needs in the basin,
03:44:22.280 --> 03:44:25.390
as well as all of the other LSC's,
03:44:25.390 --> 03:44:26.970
which are jurisdictional to us.
03:44:26.970 --> 03:44:28.846
So like the CCAs in Edison
03:44:28.846 --> 03:44:32.167
and of course our partner with the ISO
03:44:32.167 --> 03:44:34.277
and the role for transmission
03:44:34.277 --> 03:44:38.083
to get to this clean energy alternative.
03:44:39.599 --> 03:44:44.280
One of the questions and
invitations that I wanted to make
03:44:44.280 --> 03:44:46.570
here publicly was to work with you,
03:44:46.570 --> 03:44:48.350
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
and President Batjer
03:44:48.350 --> 03:44:50.865
in the IRP proceeding
03:44:50.865 --> 03:44:54.130
to really discuss and take advantage
03:44:54.130 --> 03:44:57.260
of the call to action, not
just from the Governor,
03:44:57.260 --> 03:45:01.500
but from the public and not
miss an opportunity in this next
03:45:01.500 --> 03:45:04.530
iteration of our IRP procurement,
03:45:04.530 --> 03:45:08.550
to really delve into the
very, from my perspective,
03:45:08.550 --> 03:45:12.001
clear interplay that exists
between the procurement needs
03:45:12.001 --> 03:45:17.001
to procure clean generation
and storage in the basin
03:45:18.470 --> 03:45:21.090
that could obviously count against
03:45:21.090 --> 03:45:23.404
this overall IRP procurement
03:45:23.404 --> 03:45:26.960
to make sure that we're
not missing an opportunity
03:45:26.960 --> 03:45:31.960
in the near term here, and
the midterm to create more local
03:45:33.740 --> 03:45:37.463
resiliency that's based on
clean generation and storage.
03:45:38.330 --> 03:45:41.023
And so it's a very timely conversation.
03:45:41.023 --> 03:45:43.650
You've obviously heard this morning.
03:45:43.650 --> 03:45:45.650
So much of the consternation,
03:45:45.650 --> 03:45:47.772
valid consternation from the public
03:45:47.772 --> 03:45:51.260
and want to see if we
can hold the workshop
03:45:51.260 --> 03:45:54.610
in short order to inform
both of our proceedings
03:45:54.610 --> 03:45:58.520
on this very integrated topic
03:45:58.520 --> 03:46:02.200
of what that local and system generation
03:46:02.200 --> 03:46:07.200
needs can be as we face
this dynamic with Aliso.
03:46:12.868 --> 03:46:14.371
Okay.
03:46:14.371 --> 03:46:15.710
President Batjer, can I?
03:46:15.710 --> 03:46:17.805
Yes, absolutely
Commissioner Rechtschaffen-
03:46:17.805 --> 03:46:20.970
Just to respond to that, I
think that's an excellent idea
03:46:20.970 --> 03:46:23.760
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
and I'm happy to work with
03:46:23.760 --> 03:46:25.920
you and the Energy
Division and President Batjer
03:46:25.920 --> 03:46:28.800
to try to pull together
that works out right away
03:46:28.800 --> 03:46:29.850
and to further explore
03:46:29.850 --> 03:46:31.450
the issues that you just raised.
03:46:33.600 --> 03:46:34.750
Thank you.
03:46:34.750 --> 03:46:36.030
And I would agree.
03:46:36.030 --> 03:46:39.689
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
as your Batjer team partner
03:46:39.689 --> 03:46:43.387
in the IRP, the interim IRP
03:46:43.387 --> 03:46:46.723
that we'll certainly work on this.
03:46:47.710 --> 03:46:49.040
Okay.
03:46:49.040 --> 03:46:51.470
Thank you, and who
would like to now speak
03:46:52.470 --> 03:46:55.343
to give their Commissioner Report?
03:46:57.500 --> 03:47:00.890
Okay, you're leaving it up to me then.
03:47:00.890 --> 03:47:02.340
(President Batjer laughs)
03:47:02.340 --> 03:47:03.410
All right.
03:47:03.410 --> 03:47:06.190
I will ask your for your indulgence
03:47:06.190 --> 03:47:09.470
if mine's a little longer
than I typically do,
03:47:09.470 --> 03:47:13.310
but I think it's important
that the public hear a little bit
03:47:13.310 --> 03:47:16.500
about what Commissioner
Houck mentioned earlier,
03:47:16.500 --> 03:47:20.270
and that is the public
safety power shutoff,
03:47:20.270 --> 03:47:23.940
public the meetings we held
03:47:23.940 --> 03:47:28.520
with the investor
owned utilities this week,
03:47:28.520 --> 03:47:32.500
to both the large and the
small to hear from them on
03:47:32.500 --> 03:47:36.700
their preparedness
for the wildfire season
03:47:36.700 --> 03:47:37.950
that yes, indeed,
03:47:37.950 --> 03:47:39.530
we are already in the midst of.
03:47:39.530 --> 03:47:41.880
These briefings we're timely
03:47:41.880 --> 03:47:44.940
as we are in what
they'll likely be a long
03:47:44.940 --> 03:47:47.050
and very difficult wildfire season
03:47:47.050 --> 03:47:49.660
as we have repeatedly said today.
03:47:49.660 --> 03:47:54.390
It is only August and already
over 6,000 fires have burned
03:47:54.390 --> 03:47:55.837
over half a million acres.
03:47:55.837 --> 03:47:59.510
And we have seen already great tragedy.
03:47:59.510 --> 03:48:01.310
As we have said repeatedly,
03:48:01.310 --> 03:48:06.076
the utilities must use PSPS
only as a measure of last resort
03:48:06.076 --> 03:48:09.173
to prevent catastrophic wildfires.
03:48:09.173 --> 03:48:11.370
We, along with our colleagues at
03:48:11.370 --> 03:48:15.140
the New Office of Energy
Infrastructure Safety,
03:48:15.140 --> 03:48:17.040
are holding the utilities accountable
03:48:17.040 --> 03:48:19.260
for reducing wildfire risk
03:48:19.260 --> 03:48:22.620
by safely maintaining
their electrical infrastructure,
03:48:22.620 --> 03:48:26.520
conducting extensive vegetation
management and some fleeting
03:48:26.520 --> 03:48:30.895
grid measures that target
the most at risk circuits.
03:48:30.895 --> 03:48:33.960
I appreciate the information
we received from the utilities
03:48:33.960 --> 03:48:36.110
and the important questions raised
03:48:36.110 --> 03:48:40.700
by my fellow Commissioners,
OEIS Director Thomas Jacobs,
03:48:40.700 --> 03:48:43.020
Cal OES Director Ghilarducci,
03:48:43.020 --> 03:48:46.115
and Chief Richwine from Cal fire.
03:48:46.115 --> 03:48:48.420
While all of the utilities
have made progress
03:48:48.420 --> 03:48:50.300
in planning for PSPS,
03:48:50.300 --> 03:48:53.290
we also noted areas
where more work is needed
03:48:53.290 --> 03:48:55.850
to reduce customer impact.
03:48:55.850 --> 03:48:58.240
Both the Commission
and the community serve
03:48:58.240 --> 03:49:03.240
need to have confidence
that the utilities have assessed
03:49:03.320 --> 03:49:07.430
and fully understand
the public safety risks
03:49:07.430 --> 03:49:11.810
that are created when
a PSPS event is called.
03:49:11.810 --> 03:49:14.110
The three large IOUs described
03:49:14.110 --> 03:49:16.760
new efforts to understand
where their access
03:49:16.760 --> 03:49:19.620
and functional needs
populations are located.
03:49:19.620 --> 03:49:24.420
But we expect this important
work to accelerate and the IOUs
03:49:24.420 --> 03:49:26.750
battery backup programs to further,
03:49:26.750 --> 03:49:31.015
further expand and go
beyond the established goals.
03:49:31.015 --> 03:49:33.050
Some of the utility specific takeaways
03:49:33.050 --> 03:49:35.870
from this week's
briefing are as follows;
03:49:35.870 --> 03:49:38.190
for SDG&E, we are concerned about
03:49:38.190 --> 03:49:40.540
its vegetation management inspections,
03:49:40.540 --> 03:49:43.550
which appeared to be
well below the targets
03:49:43.550 --> 03:49:45.060
for this year.
03:49:45.060 --> 03:49:49.990
SGD&E is also consistently
behind in meeting its
03:49:49.990 --> 03:49:52.350
vegetation management targets.
03:49:52.350 --> 03:49:56.440
We look forward to SDG&E
launching its PSPS portal
03:49:56.440 --> 03:49:57.840
by September one,
03:49:57.840 --> 03:50:00.290
which will provide important information
03:50:00.290 --> 03:50:02.670
to its public safety partners.
03:50:02.670 --> 03:50:06.742
SDG& E continued collaboration
with tribal government
03:50:06.742 --> 03:50:08.601
is particularly important,
03:50:08.601 --> 03:50:12.960
given the wildfire risks
faced by the tribal nations
03:50:12.960 --> 03:50:16.035
in the SDG&E service territory.
03:50:16.035 --> 03:50:19.370
On SCE on Edison,
03:50:19.370 --> 03:50:21.940
we are eager to see the launch of their
03:50:21.940 --> 03:50:24.970
address based PSPS pool
03:50:24.970 --> 03:50:28.560
by early October,
which it could be earlier.
03:50:28.560 --> 03:50:31.240
This information is vital for customers,
03:50:31.240 --> 03:50:32.870
especially those who do not have
03:50:32.870 --> 03:50:35.580
their own electricity account.
03:50:35.580 --> 03:50:37.930
We know that customers
continue to struggle
03:50:37.930 --> 03:50:40.292
to get accurate information from Edison.
03:50:40.292 --> 03:50:42.540
While we appreciate Edison's effort
03:50:42.540 --> 03:50:45.990
to gain more spatially, granular data
03:50:45.990 --> 03:50:47.950
with additional weather stations.
03:50:47.950 --> 03:50:50.860
We also expect Edison
to improve their access
03:50:50.860 --> 03:50:53.273
to more real-time weather data.
03:50:53.273 --> 03:50:58.273
For PG&E, we remain
concerned about how it's used,
03:50:58.550 --> 03:51:02.190
how it's use of pre over strike criteria
03:51:02.190 --> 03:51:05.940
will impact the frequency,
duration, and scope
03:51:05.940 --> 03:51:07.810
of the PSPS events.
03:51:07.810 --> 03:51:09.810
As part of today's Consent Agenda,
03:51:09.810 --> 03:51:12.863
we adopted a resolution
that requires PG&E
03:51:12.863 --> 03:51:14.848
to provide new reporting
03:51:14.848 --> 03:51:18.150
on how the inclusion of tree over strike
03:51:18.150 --> 03:51:19.730
distinct from other factors
03:51:19.730 --> 03:51:22.750
and its PSPS modeling, impacts PG&E's
03:51:22.750 --> 03:51:25.146
PSPS decision-making.
03:51:25.146 --> 03:51:28.420
PG&E must be more transparent about its
03:51:28.420 --> 03:51:30.703
PSP modeling and decision-making.
03:51:30.703 --> 03:51:33.670
This is something both
we at the Commission
03:51:33.670 --> 03:51:36.746
and the communities they serve expect.
03:51:36.746 --> 03:51:40.960
On the small and multiple
jurisdictional utilities,
03:51:40.960 --> 03:51:45.350
The civic Corps has only
called one PSPS event
03:51:45.350 --> 03:51:48.160
and Liberty utilities and Bear valley
03:51:48.160 --> 03:51:50.353
have never called any PSPS events.
03:51:51.770 --> 03:51:55.170
This preparation of all the more,
03:51:55.170 --> 03:51:58.690
therefore the preparation for
them is all the more important
03:51:58.690 --> 03:52:00.760
We expect all three of these utilities
03:52:00.760 --> 03:52:03.130
to engage with large IOUs,
03:52:03.130 --> 03:52:05.380
to benefit from their lessons learned
03:52:05.380 --> 03:52:10.160
and avoid the mistakes
made when PG&E Edison
03:52:10.160 --> 03:52:14.800
and SDG&E first ramped
up their PSPS programs.
03:52:14.800 --> 03:52:18.200
It is urgent that the Civic
Corps, Liberty and Bear Valley
03:52:18.200 --> 03:52:21.630
expand identification of
their medically vulnerable
03:52:21.630 --> 03:52:24.697
and access and
functional needs customers.
03:52:24.697 --> 03:52:28.150
We will continue to judge
utilities by their outcomes
03:52:28.150 --> 03:52:31.710
on PSPS, not their plans for PSPs.
03:52:31.710 --> 03:52:35.630
We are working to standardize
the 10 day post event reports
03:52:35.630 --> 03:52:37.300
across the utilities.
03:52:37.300 --> 03:52:41.743
And in our recent decision on
the PG&E, SCE, and SDG&E
03:52:42.637 --> 03:52:45.247
2019 PSPS events,
03:52:45.247 --> 03:52:49.270
we ordered the utilities
to identify and quantify
03:52:49.270 --> 03:52:52.740
public risks and harms from
the proactive de-energization
03:52:54.354 --> 03:52:57.460
in those post event reports.
03:52:57.460 --> 03:52:59.840
In addition, this year,
03:52:59.840 --> 03:53:04.840
the utilities must produce
a postseason PSPS report.
03:53:05.210 --> 03:53:09.160
This enhanced reporting
will enable us to assess
03:53:09.160 --> 03:53:12.779
whether utilities are
meeting our expectations
03:53:12.779 --> 03:53:17.390
on reducing impacts and
ensuring customer safety
03:53:17.390 --> 03:53:20.043
when they implement PSPS events.
03:53:20.960 --> 03:53:23.713
I would like to thank
Tony Nowell and his team
03:53:23.713 --> 03:53:26.060
in the Safety Enforcement Division
03:53:26.060 --> 03:53:28.380
for their hard work in organizing these
03:53:28.380 --> 03:53:31.730
very informative and
important PSPS briefings.
03:53:31.730 --> 03:53:33.580
I would like to also add my thanks to
03:53:33.580 --> 03:53:35.930
Executive Director Rachel Peterson,
03:53:35.930 --> 03:53:38.680
and my staff, my
wonderful Chief of Staff,
03:53:38.680 --> 03:53:43.230
Shannon O'Rourke and the
incomparable Nora Hopkins
03:53:43.230 --> 03:53:44.500
for all of the hard work
03:53:44.500 --> 03:53:47.310
in preparing me and the Batjer team
03:53:47.310 --> 03:53:51.050
for these very important PSPS briefings.
03:53:51.050 --> 03:53:53.610
That finishes my report
03:53:53.610 --> 03:53:57.200
and I think that finishes all
the Commissioners Reports
03:53:57.200 --> 03:54:00.950
unless somebody would
like to speak up now, okay,
03:54:00.950 --> 03:54:03.004
then this public meeting is adjourned.
03:54:03.004 --> 03:54:06.600
(President Batjer laughs)
03:54:06.600 --> 03:54:11.403
We will now move into the
closed session on legal matters.