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Thank you for...

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<v Operator>Welcome to the California</v>

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Public Utilities Commission on this day,

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Thursday, March 4th, 2021.

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President Batjer, you may begin.

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<v ->Thank you very much, Operator</v>

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and good morning, everyone.

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We need to establish a quorum.

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Will the agenda clerk please call the roll?

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck?</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma?</v>

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<v ->Present.</v>

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen?</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves?</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Clerk>President Batjer?</v>

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<v ->Here, thank you, we have established a quorum.</v>

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Welcome to the California Public Utilities Commission.

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I'm calling this meeting of March 4th, 2021,

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Public Agenda 3480 to order.

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Due to the coronavirus pandemic

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and the shelter-in-place order,

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Before we commence with public comment,

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I would like to welcome to the virtual diocese

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and back to the CPUC our newest Commissioner Darcy Houk.

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Commissioner Houk was most recently chief counsel

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at the California Energy Commission.

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Prior to that, she served as an Administrative Law Judge

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here at the CPUC, a role in which many of you

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have had the opportunity to work with her before.

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Commissioner Houk brings with her a wealth of knowledge.

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And we welcome her back and we are very glad

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to have her with us for her first voting meeting.

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Commissioner Houk, I would like to invite you

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to make any opening comments, if you would like

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<v ->Thank you, President Batjer</v>

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for the warm welcome back to the Commission.

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I wanna thank Governor Newsome for this opportunity

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to serve California in my new role as a Commissioner.

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I appreciate all the support and kind words

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from so many people since returning last week.

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And I'm excited to work with each of you

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in meeting the Commission's goals of ensuring safe,

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reliable and affordable services for all Californians.

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And doing so, I understand the importance

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of being a collaborative partner with our sister agencies

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and engaging with the public.

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I look forward to working on the many energy issues

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before the Commission increasing broadband access

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to our most vulnerable communities, water affordability

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and transportation safety.

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I hope to contribute to improving access

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to an information regarding Commission processes

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to underrepresented rural and tribal communities.

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This includes how best to implement the Commissions

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tribal land transfer policy and realigning our policies

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to address COVID and post COVID pandemic issues

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such as disconnections and arrearages.

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I'm ready for the challenge and plan to do my part

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along with my fellow Commissioners,

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the Governor's office, the legislature

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and our sister agencies to create programs and policies

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that benefit and protect California.

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So thank you and I'm looking forward

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to working with all of you as a Commissioner.

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<v ->Thank you Commissioner Houk.</v>

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With you joining us today, we returned to having

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four of the five Commissioners seats filled by women.

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I think this is especially noteworthy

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given March is women's history month.

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This month allows us the opportunity

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to celebrate the contributions of women

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that women have made to the United States

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and of course, to California.

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We must recognize the countless women

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who have demonstrated leadership in small and large ways,

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many times unseen and often unappreciated,

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but we're persevered and whose wisdom and determination

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have shaped every aspect of our lives today.

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With the arrival of the month of March,

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I would also like to recognize it is been almost one year

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since many at the Commission have been working virtually

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because of the global pandemic.

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Last week, the United States reached over 500,000 deaths

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resulting from COVID-19.

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And we as a state have lost 52,000 California souls.

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That is 500,000 people who were somebody's family member,

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friend, coworker, or neighbor.

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As President Biden said, we must resist

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becoming numb to the sorrow.

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It's important to remember how we have persisted this year

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but always also to remain steadfast

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in our commitment to overcoming this deadly virus.

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I remain hopeful that the resilience

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of our collective spirits will help us

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weather this trying time.

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I'm especially proud, especially proud of all of the work

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we as a Commission have accomplished over this last year

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mostly working remotely with a core staff

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who have continued to provide essential services

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in the office and are all

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under such stressful circumstances.

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Thank you to all the CPUC staff who have worked

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so diligently to continue serving the people of California

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over the last year as we have all sheltered in place

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and learn to adapt to a new way of working.

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Thank you all for what you have done

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and please keep up the good work.

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We're almost there.

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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Okay, we will now turn to public comment.

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If you wish to make a public comment

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and you have already dialed

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into the public comment telephone line,

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please press star one to get into the public comment queue.

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CPUC rules do not allow for comments

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for parties in proceedings to speak about open proceedings.

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The public can make comments addressing items

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on the consent and regular agenda

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and including items not on today's agenda.

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Please note that there will not be public comment

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on item 33 and all items on the closed session agenda.

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You will have two minutes to speak.

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You will hear a bell sound.

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You will hear a bell sound when your time is up.

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Please be mindful of other speakers in the queue.

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And please keep to your lot at time.

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With that guidance in mind, I welcome today's speakers.

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I will now turn to the operator for the public comments.

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Operator.

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<v Operator>The first comment is from Patrick Kerns.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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The first comment is from Patrick Kerns.

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Your line is now open.

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Mr. Kerns, please check your mute button.

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<v Patrick>I'm not on mute.</v>

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<v ->We can hear you now Mr. Kerns, go ahead.</v>

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<v Patrick>Thank you, madam president and Commissioners.</v>

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(indistinct) is grateful for the powerful leadership

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from the CPUC and highlighting the pandemic

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and ways that we can protect our community.

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I am presenting the basis

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for South Bay Water Utility Repairs Assertion

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that the Commission's culture has been transformed

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to an adversarial for judicial process

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and anathema to a transparent rate payer friendly

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regulatory process.

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We do acknowledge the value and action

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of the executive director, Rachel Peterson

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in denying the extension of the deadline for application

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to set cost of capital for Class A water utility.

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Secondly, rate withes to compare the CPUC actions

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to follow up audit CT and D sailors perform

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Woodland maintenance to reduce fire danger

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and requiring action based on that follow-up audit.

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Rates compares this to San Jose water company's compliance

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with Commission orders from the last year CRC 2018.

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And understaffed follow-up audit failed to reveal

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the slight of hand used by San Jose water

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to manipulate and subvert the intent

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and understanding of the Commission's orders.

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The Commission ordered and authorized an increase of 4.55%

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in decision 1811025.

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Yet residential customers have ended up paying 15.3%

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based on selective charges to different categories.

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Residential customers have been assessed as 15.3%

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which subsidizes other categories.

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Other classes of customers for San Jose water company

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which have actually had a reduction rate

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of increase up to 13% reduction.

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The CPUC has been cited on it's lack of audit

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and rate is requesting a fiduciary audit

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be contemplated with any future requests

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for increase in funds to detect post-talk.

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Thank you very much.

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<v ->Thank you, Mr. Kerns.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Dr. Jim Stewart.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Jim>Well, welcome Commissioner Houk.</v>

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We are certainly depending on you to uphold equity

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and justice for all.

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And a part of that includes addressing the issue

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of our high electricity rates.

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They're the highest in the country, except for Hawaii.

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But as you know, Hawaii has much higher rooftop

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solar penetration than does California.

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And part of the reason for that is that California

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almost uniquely among the states adds over 2 cents

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a kilowatt hour transmission access charge

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to every kilowatt hour,

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whether they use the transmission system or not.

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And this is expensive as last week's

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on bonk revealed was that there are billions of dollars

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of investment by the utilities into these transmission lines

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and 60% of them or solar self approved.

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So we don't even get you the Commissioners

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to approve whether or not they're adding

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excess transmission or not.

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This is inexcusable.

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And if you want to help the Governor

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in a potential recall election, you will address this issue

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of the fact that the transmission access charge

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and the whole transmission is way out of control

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and you need to reign it in.

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And a good example is just look at the municipal utilities.

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They don't add that charge to people who don't use it.

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So fix it now.

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Thank you very much.

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<v ->Thank you, Dr. Stewart.</v>

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Operators, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is resident</v>

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of Palm Springs, California.

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Your line is now open.

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<v Joan>Good morning, my name is Joan Taylor.</v>

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I live in the desert Palm Springs.

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I would like to echo Dr. Stewart's comments

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about the self approved projects, it's outrageous.

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Also the transmission costs are already extraordinarily high

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and will certainly spiral out of control

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in this energy efficiency and especially distributed energy

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resources are compensated fairly.

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Compensation for those resources

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should include the values of resilience,

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avoided transmission costs

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and also customers that are self-generating energy

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since stopped being charged the TAC.

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Thank you for your time.

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<v ->Thank you, Ms. Taylor.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller, Claire Broom.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Claire>Good morning, President Batjer</v>

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and welcome to Commissioner Houk.

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My name is Claire Broom,

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I'm a professor of public health

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and I'm a resident of California, rate payer.

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I congratulate the Commission on last week's on bunk.

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It was a potential opportunity to be forward looking

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and visionary.

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As Anthony Kinslow told you in the final panel,

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the future is not centralized generation.

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The answer to affordable energy and we're talking energy,

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we're talking electricity and methane gas

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and gasoline, affordable energy for households

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requires the Commission to look at flexible

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community-based solutions.

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Solar and storage in front of the meter,

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behind the meter and flexible demand management.

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That's the answer that also permits a focus on equity.

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Please compensate DERs fairly.

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You've heard about correcting the distortion

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of the transmission access charge which the CPUC

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has the power to do.

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Also compensating DERs for resiliency.

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We all want reliable power.

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Why don't we pay DERs to provide it

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instead of encouraging use of diesel generators.

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And finally, please look at real answers

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to controlling costs of transmission,

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which was demonstrated to be the most rapidly

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rising part of our bills.

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Ignore the utilities campaign against rooftop solar.

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Their purported cost shift is a diversionary tactic.

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So thank you for being visionary and looking ahead

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to true solutions for reliable, affordable, clean energy

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which will prevent the climate crisis.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Operator next, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Lee Miller.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Lee>I'm Lee Miller, a rooftop solar owner in Sacramento.</v>

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California monopolies oppose rooftop solar

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for one reason, every electron I generate

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is one they cannot sell me.

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The result is an aggressive spin campaign

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to crush net metering.

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Utilities have been raising rates,

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destroying our environment and causing California wildfires.

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They blame rooftop solar, but the problem

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is they're overspending on power lines,

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failure to maintain those lines

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while getting a guaranteed profit.

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Last summer state officials begged us to share

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our battery power.

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Over 30,000 solar battery customers answered the call.

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We delivered as much as 310 megawatts of electricity

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to the grid on August 15th alone.

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Dr. Baker, deputy director of for energy justice

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at the U.S. Department of Energy said in a recent interview,

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rooftop solar isn't the insult,

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the insult is placing fossil fuel generation

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in communities of color, the insult is disproportionate

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burden that the low and moderate income homes

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are paying for electricity.

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Electricity rate design is regressive.

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That means poorest people are paying more

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of their overall income just to keep the lights on,

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that's the insult.

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The issue that the utilities should be tackling

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rather than trying to end rooftop solar,

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which actually lowers emissions

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in the very communities that they care about.

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The utilities are using their influence

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to derail beneficial aspects of net metering.

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This isn't the time to slow down rooftop solar,

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please resist the efforts, keep net metering and tac

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while strengthening it to help more middle

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and low income people get solar plus battery installations.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Bianca Tylek.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Bianca>Hello, my name is Bianca Tylek.</v>

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I am the executive director at Worth Rises

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and representing here today Californians for jail

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and prison phone justice.

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Wanting to make a quick comment.

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Thank you very much to all the Commissioners

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regarding a public hearing that will be held

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on April 28th and 29th that is regarding the rates of prison

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and jail phone calls and perhaps regulatory efforts

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that might be taken there.

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We really wanna commend the Commission

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for making an intentional effort to have incarcerated people

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who are actually directly impacted

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by whatever regulation the Commission takes

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voices heard during the actual hearing.

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But we do have some concerns

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that we would like to Commissioners to consider

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and the staff at the Commission to consider.

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And that is really twofold.

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One is about privacy.

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There are serious concerns among the incarcerated advocates

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about retaliation or retribution for speaking up

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during the public hearings.

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So there's questions about whether or not

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anonymity can be guaranteed, can people the perhaps recorded

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offline but without their names actually being stated

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during the public hearing.

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Various different options that might be available,

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we understand this is a completely new thing.

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So just wanting to make sure we really think

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about people's safety as we ask people

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to participate in the hearings.

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Secondly, is that the logistical aspect

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of actually having people from inside call

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is not very straightforward.

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Folks from inside have to call

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and that call has to be accepted by a person.

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It actually will not work for somebody

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from inside a prison or jail facility to call

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in a number that is answered by an automated message.

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And not somebody has to actively accept the call.

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So just thinking about how that is,

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like how these calls are gonna be accepted

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and if there's a way to prioritize those

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because there are long lines inside

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and they only have a few minutes.

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So just wanted to raise those two things.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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<v ->Thank you for calling.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Fatima Malik,</v>

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your line is now open.

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<v Fatima>Good morning Commissioners.</v>

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My name is Fatima Malik and I'm a resident

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of a disadvantaged community of Del Paso Heights

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in North Sacramento.

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I became a solar customer in 2016

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and I became an electric vehicle driver in 2018.

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My desire to save the planet from the devastating impacts

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of climate change recognize the value and benefits

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that our natural world provide to all life

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and living things, plants, people, and animals.

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Today, I asked the CPUC to support the variety of benefits

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provided by solar and keep rooftop solar

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and battery storage growing in California.

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Last year, California suffered from record shattering

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climate change induced extreme heat waves,

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over 800,000 people without power.

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This is preventable and can be avoided in the future

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by strengthening net metering

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so that millions of California can make, store

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and share solar energy.

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Please do not slow down so rooftop solar or net metering,

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I request that you continue to support

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and strengthen the benefits and value of net metering.

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And I encourage you to promote more virtual net metering.

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In summary, I urge you to promote more net metering

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not less.

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to address climate change resiliency and social equity,

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net metering is a valuable tool and resource

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to further advance your mission of increasing safe,

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reliable and affordable access to services in California.

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As the president mentioned, it's been a year since COVID

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and this is a new reality.

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Many people are on the verge of having their lights

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turned off on April 1st if they are not able

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to pay up their bills.

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And so I really encourage to think

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about how we must continue to change

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the way we do business that is better for the planet,

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people and especially in disadvantaged communities

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so that all living plants and animals can thrive.

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I encourage you to support equity

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and justice for all, especially for vulnerable populations

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and disadvantaged communities.

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I echo the sentiment that has already been shared

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around a lot of different funds.

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And I thank you very much for your time

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and consideration today.

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<v ->Thank you for your call.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Leslie Sal.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Leslie>Hi, can you hear me?</v>

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<v ->Yes, we can please go ahead.</v>

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<v Leslie>Great, thank you.</v>

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I'm calling from Ventura

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and I would just like to support the last speaker.

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I thought she was very eloquent in her delivery

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in the points that she made.

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So as well as some of the earlier speakers.

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I think we need to look at distributed energy resources,

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local energy production.

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We certainly experienced the Thomas fire now here

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that was a real issue for our power

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and having a lot more local production micro grids

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could benefit the communities all up and down California.

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And we have a lot more available now

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in terms of battery storage, reliability.

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And we have community choice energy here

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that we've voted to have at 100% as our basic default.

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So we need we need to facilitate more rooftop,

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more commercial, more parking lot, solar,

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municipal buildings.

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There are any number of ways this could be done

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very quickly if the will and the structure,

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the economic structure was made available.

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So I hope you all will work in that direction.

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I just wanted to mention that film I saw

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yesterday evening, 2040.

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It was very interesting.

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The filmmaker went around to different parts of the world

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and demonstrated these local solar,

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even very very small grids that were producing energy

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for people in different parts of the world.

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And Paul Hawkin was also featured, and he mentioned

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that during one of the Northern California wildfires,

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the only people that had energy was a local tribe

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that had a micro grid.

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So I would like to put that out there too

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that these micro grids are in the local production

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is where we need to go.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you for calling.</v>

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Operator, next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Barry Toronto.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Barry>Yes, hi, I'm Barry Toronto.</v>

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I am a taxi driver and want to refer to item number 11

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on the consent calendar regarding the wheelchair

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accessible vehicles.

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I see a lot of contradictions in the documents

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and the filing, a colleague of mine who drives

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a ramp taxi regularly named Jessica Felix.

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She mentioned that the entire reason for the regulation

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and the fund was established to create on-demand service

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for wheelchair users.

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The ramp taxis in San Francisco the only on demand service

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in San Francisco.

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If you're gonna make it a requirement

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that only CPUC permitted vehicles are allowed,

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then there are a lot of questions to be asked.

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What do you charge?

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If you're gonna use the TNC method,

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then you're using a soft meter

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and what are they using a flat rate?

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Because TCP carriers are supposed to have

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particular listed rates and not go by a meter.

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So is there any way that ramp taxis can have access

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to a CPUC permit?

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Because in San Francisco they provide the service

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and they also get the proper training

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and the proper inspections.

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And so it's kind of ludicrous to leave out ramp taxis

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and not have access to this fund

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in order to provide the service to the people.

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They buy their own vehicles, they get the proper training

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and they develop relationships with the wheelchair users.

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And all of these wheelchair users are not able

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to use an app or use an app on a smartphone

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due to their disabilities.

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So I'm very much concerned about how this was written

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and how this was set up to block ramp taxis

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from being able to take advantage of the fund.

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I appreciate that maybe you misinterpreted SB 1376

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and I'm hoping that this one of the Commissioners

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can take this out of consent calendar

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and have further exploration as to what is going on here.

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Thank you very much.

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<v ->Thank you for calling.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Paul Briley.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Paul>Hello, my name is Paul Briley.</v>

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I'm a regional coordinator for All of Us or None.

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We advocate for the civil and human rights.

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So formerly and currently incarcerated individuals.

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I would like to echo one of the callers earlier,

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and I just would like to know how is the Commission

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planning to handle issues of privacy

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right by incarcerated people and their families

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who are experiencing some fear of retaliation or retribution

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for speaking up at public hearings,

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specifically the hearing scheduled on April 28th and 29th.

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And secondly, how is the Commission prepared to identify

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and prioritize calls coming from incarcerated people

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who have limited time and access to communication

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joining the public participation hearings

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on April 28th and April 29th.

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Lastly, how does the Commission plan to notice

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incarcerated people and their families

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of the privacy protocols that would be put in place

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as well as the participation protocols

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for incarcerated and detained people

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to speak up at the public participation hearings.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you for your call.</v>

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Operator, the next caller, please.

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<v Operator>The next caller is Laura Rosenberger Hyder.</v>

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Your line is now open.

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<v Laura>This is Laura, a recent LA Times story</v>

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repeated that she thinks national greenhouse gas goals

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with a grid that strategically increased

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distributed energy resources would be $473 billion

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cheaper than relying on central generation

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that would avoid transmission costs.

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And the Commission should also scrutinize

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the transmission projects that they think

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they're paying too much for those projects

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and maybe some mismanagement of money there.

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All right, thank you.

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<v ->Thank you for your call.</v>

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Operator, next caller please.
<v ->President Batjer.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->I'm sorry to interrupt the flow.</v>

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I just wanted to encourage the callers

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related to the incarcerated people workshop

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to reach out to our office.

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Our contact information is on our website.

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And just to note that we are looking at these issues

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and we'll welcome a follow-up conversation with them.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

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That's very helpful information

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for the two callers that have called in

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and those that are listening.

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Thank you for that clarification.

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.553
Okay, operator next caller, please.

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<v Operator>There are no more speakers</v>

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on the public comment telephone line.

00:32:09.210 --> 00:32:11.063
<v ->Okay, thank you operator.</v>

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With no more callers on the line,

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the public comment period is now closed.

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Thank you all who called in, appreciate it.

00:32:20.760 --> 00:32:25.760
Before I read the whole list for today from the agenda,

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I understand that Commissioner Guzman Aceves

00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:31.962
would like to make a motion to hold an item.

00:32:31.962 --> 00:32:34.109
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.

00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:35.431
<v ->Thank you, President Batjer.</v>

00:32:35.431 --> 00:32:38.343
I would like to request a hold on item 12,

00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:41.333
the microgrid proceeding.

00:32:43.630 --> 00:32:48.630
<v ->Okay, we will need a motion and a second.</v>

00:32:51.901 --> 00:32:52.803
<v ->So moved.</v>

00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:57.200
<v ->Okay, Martha yours was a motion, correct,</v>

00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.100
in your statement?

00:32:59.590 --> 00:33:00.550
<v ->Yes, thank you.</v>

00:33:00.550 --> 00:33:01.610
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

00:33:01.610 --> 00:33:05.420
We have a motion and a second to hold item number 12,

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:07.180
and I believe you wanna hold it,

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we will hold it for one meeting under our rules.

00:33:10.110 --> 00:33:13.530
That would be March 18th of 2021.

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Will the agenda court please call the roll.

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Houk.</v>

00:33:19.550 --> 00:33:20.383
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:33:21.850 --> 00:33:23.790
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:24.623
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:33:25.540 --> 00:33:27.866
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

00:33:27.866 --> 00:33:28.699
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:31.911
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

00:33:31.911 --> 00:33:32.744
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:33:33.754 --> 00:33:34.587
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

00:33:34.587 --> 00:33:35.420
<v Marybel>Yes.</v>

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The vote to hold item number 12

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:43.920
to the March 18th, 2021 meeting is approved unanimously.

00:33:46.030 --> 00:33:50.247
Okay, I will move now onto those changes

00:33:52.500 --> 00:33:54.923
to the agenda items.

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These are the following changes.

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Item two will be held until the March 18th, 2021 meeting.

00:34:04.030 --> 00:34:08.343
Item seven, we will take up with a regular agenda today.

00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:14.050
Item 28 will be held until 18th 2021 meeting

00:34:15.580 --> 00:34:20.580
and item 12 will be held until the March 18th,

00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:22.083
2021 meetings.

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Okay, we will now take up the consent items.

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Is there a motion?

00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:32.100
<v ->So moved.</v>

00:34:32.100 --> 00:34:33.440
<v ->And second</v>

00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.892
<v Marybel>Thank you.</v>

00:34:34.892 --> 00:34:37.690
We have a motion and a second on the Consent Agenda items.

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Will the agenda clerk please call the role?

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

00:34:42.870 --> 00:34:43.703
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:34:44.670 --> 00:34:46.430
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

00:34:46.430 --> 00:34:47.263
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:34:48.160 --> 00:34:50.090
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:50.923
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:54.592
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

00:34:54.592 --> 00:34:55.425
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:57.812
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

00:34:57.812 --> 00:34:58.645
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:34:58.645 --> 00:35:03.645
The Consent Agenda has been approved unanimously

00:35:04.180 --> 00:35:05.620
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,

00:35:05.620 --> 00:35:08.933
I believe you have a remark to make on item 13.

00:35:10.530 --> 00:35:12.480
<v ->Yeah, thank you President Batjer.</v>

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.000
Just to highlight and thank all of the team

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.090
that's been working on the California Ground Service Fund.

00:35:19.090 --> 00:35:21.820
As you know, this is our largest infrastructure fund

00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:25.470
for broadband and we had a couple of provisions

00:35:25.470 --> 00:35:26.800
in this decision.

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.500
One really improving some of the data requirements

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:35.720
for actually knowing the state of hairs in our areas

00:35:35.720 --> 00:35:39.600
of being unserved and some of the investments

00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:41.810
that some of the carriers are actually making.

00:35:41.810 --> 00:35:45.430
So this is really a transparency provision

00:35:45.430 --> 00:35:48.650
that I'm glad to have received your support on today.

00:35:48.650 --> 00:35:51.120
And the other very important provision

00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:55.500
was actually something that was in place previously

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:59.180
and reinstated here of an open access requirement

00:35:59.180 --> 00:36:02.280
with these publicly funded infrastructure projects.

00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.550
And I can't tell you how much, how important this is

00:36:05.550 --> 00:36:07.930
particularly for the middle mile investments

00:36:07.930 --> 00:36:11.330
to have this non-discriminatory provision.

00:36:11.330 --> 00:36:13.673
Sorry, my son is yelling at our new puppy.

00:36:15.310 --> 00:36:19.630
but it really has led to successful projects

00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:20.803
throughout the state.

00:36:21.741 --> 00:36:23.320
I wanna just highlight the city of Gonzalez

00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.210
being one that actually provides universal service

00:36:26.210 --> 00:36:27.253
to the entire town.

00:36:28.220 --> 00:36:30.930
Largely far more than town only made possible

00:36:30.930 --> 00:36:33.470
because they have this non-discriminatory access

00:36:33.470 --> 00:36:34.860
to the middle mile.

00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:37.975
So I thank you for your support on that.

00:36:37.975 --> 00:36:41.440
Again, also wanting to thank this incredible team

00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.690
that I had the privilege of working with for four years

00:36:45.690 --> 00:36:48.040
under the leadership of Celina Juan

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.750
and all the great legal contribution

00:36:51.750 --> 00:36:56.750
particularly from (indistinct) and I can go on and on

00:36:57.260 --> 00:36:59.940
with all the folks in the communications division.

00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:04.720
So for this particular decision, Lou Fisher and James Tang

00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:07.640
and of course our judge Joanna Guvman.

00:37:07.640 --> 00:37:10.680
I wanna thank them for this and I wanted to just share

00:37:10.680 --> 00:37:15.680
that after this decision, and of course, President Batjer,

00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:18.360
your partnership, your Bagley King partnerships

00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.423
and particularly your staff, Michael Malaney.

00:37:22.410 --> 00:37:24.810
But as we finish up this decision,

00:37:24.810 --> 00:37:27.210
this proceeding will be now in the hands

00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:31.450
of Commissioner Houck, which I have complete confidence in.

00:37:31.450 --> 00:37:35.310
She will be doing much more to expand all the work

00:37:35.310 --> 00:37:37.830
under this proceeding and getting further

00:37:37.830 --> 00:37:40.640
on our universal broadband access goals.

00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:42.960
So thank you for letting me share that

00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.420
and for your support on this item today

00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.450
<v ->Thank you, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

00:37:49.450 --> 00:37:51.210
I believe that Commissioner Shiroma

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:54.413
will make a remark on item 11.

00:37:56.290 --> 00:37:58.845
<v ->Yes, thank you, President Batjer.</v>

00:37:58.845 --> 00:38:03.520
I wanted to take a moment to highlight the track three

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:06.040
wheelchair accessible vehicles decision

00:38:06.040 --> 00:38:07.440
that we just voted out.

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:08.283
Thank you.

00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:13.580
I would like to note for our commentary today

00:38:13.580 --> 00:38:18.580
that the legislature saw fit or a few years ago

00:38:19.410 --> 00:38:24.410
to have a taxis regulated by local jurisdictions

00:38:27.240 --> 00:38:30.163
rather than the CPUC.

00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:34.660
But meanwhile the Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle Program

00:38:34.660 --> 00:38:38.320
was created by the TNC Assets For All Act

00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.983
NC 1376 by Senator Hill in 2018.

00:38:43.993 --> 00:38:47.540
At this time there are TNC companies

00:38:47.540 --> 00:38:50.930
providing wheelchair accessible service,

00:38:50.930 --> 00:38:54.270
but this decision works towards ensuring

00:38:54.270 --> 00:38:59.270
that that service receives continuously improved

00:38:59.363 --> 00:39:03.130
reliable and available service.

00:39:03.130 --> 00:39:06.260
And this decision we have created refinements

00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:09.160
to the requirements for wheelchair accessible

00:39:09.160 --> 00:39:13.840
vehicle service providers to receive a financial offsets

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.280
for the incremental cost they incurred that are grounded

00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.670
in improving service and expanding access.

00:39:20.670 --> 00:39:23.510
And this includes benchmarks to ensure that transportation

00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:27.900
that were companies that are providing services

00:39:27.900 --> 00:39:31.330
continues to grow and also improve

00:39:31.330 --> 00:39:35.060
in terms of response times and so forth

00:39:35.060 --> 00:39:38.753
that are similar to non wheelchair users.

00:39:39.700 --> 00:39:43.280
Mission to the TNC is providing these services

00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.950
with this position is also creating opportunities

00:39:47.950 --> 00:39:50.800
for other regulated transportation providers

00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.750
such as (indistinct) transit to be able to access

00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:56.940
these funds to safely expand access

00:39:56.940 --> 00:40:00.230
to wheelchair accessible vehicles for more Californians.

00:40:00.230 --> 00:40:03.920
Now having what did out this track three decision,

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.440
I anticipate issuing a stopping memo very soon

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.010
for our track four, where we will continue to expand

00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:15.200
transmission access to those with access

00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:18.930
and functional needs beyond wheelchair access.

00:40:18.930 --> 00:40:22.280
I do wanna thank the team that has been working on this,

00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.200
Administrative Law Judge, Debbie Shift,

00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:29.320
Supervisor Jared Curtis, analysts Anna Chu,

00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.440
Reagan Rocksford, our trainee Tricia Buckley,

00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.200
my former advisor, Karen Schia who is now

00:40:35.200 --> 00:40:37.140
the water division director

00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:38.993
and my chief of staff (indistinct).

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.700
Again, thank you for your support.

00:40:42.700 --> 00:40:44.900
<v ->Thank you very much, Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

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Okay, no other comments on the consent calendar,

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we'll move on to the regular agenda item.

00:40:53.510 --> 00:40:57.147
The first item is number seven (indistinct).

00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.463
Item to discuss and present.

00:41:03.020 --> 00:41:03.990
<v ->Thank you.</v>

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This item and the resolution is the culmination

00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:14.130
of a several year effort to revise the PUC's rules

00:41:14.810 --> 00:41:17.160
of procedure and practice.

00:41:17.160 --> 00:41:22.160
Our goal has been to achieve greater transparency,

00:41:22.410 --> 00:41:23.690
greater effectiveness

00:41:24.570 --> 00:41:27.733
and more accessibility in our proceeding.

00:41:28.752 --> 00:41:30.930
And of course, these rules of practice and procedure

00:41:30.930 --> 00:41:34.320
will govern how utilities advocacy groups

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:39.103
and others participate in our decision-making process.

00:41:39.990 --> 00:41:44.860
So this resolution actually is the last step in our process

00:41:44.860 --> 00:41:48.810
before the state office of administrative law

00:41:48.810 --> 00:41:51.133
reviews the proposed rules.

00:41:51.970 --> 00:41:55.130
We adopted by Commission vote an earlier version

00:41:55.130 --> 00:41:58.780
of these rules changes in September

00:41:58.780 --> 00:42:01.340
and this resolution contained some relatively

00:42:01.340 --> 00:42:06.340
minor revisions to improve the clarity of the rules.

00:42:06.370 --> 00:42:08.100
So I'll just take a step back and highlight

00:42:08.100 --> 00:42:11.930
a few of the big changes that this rules reform

00:42:11.930 --> 00:42:14.863
package accomplishes.

00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:18.370
We've integrated through these rules

00:42:18.370 --> 00:42:23.170
the new catastrophic wildfire proceeding category

00:42:23.170 --> 00:42:27.220
and it's expedited schedule throughout the rules.

00:42:27.220 --> 00:42:31.840
This is of course mandated by the legislature in AB 1054.

00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.860
We've also created a new rule

00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:37.400
for other expedited proceedings

00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:42.310
establishing a streamlined process

00:42:42.310 --> 00:42:45.190
for a limited category of applications

00:42:45.190 --> 00:42:49.760
Those that concern exceptionally time-sensitive matters

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:53.793
with a public safety or financial impact.

00:42:54.970 --> 00:42:57.370
We want to improve accessibility to do that,

00:42:57.370 --> 00:42:59.860
the rules provide that our proceedings

00:42:59.860 --> 00:43:03.410
should include the option for remote participation

00:43:03.410 --> 00:43:04.700
whenever possible.

00:43:04.700 --> 00:43:06.890
We want to extend the lessons we've learned

00:43:06.890 --> 00:43:10.253
through the pandemic to the post pandemic period.

00:43:11.490 --> 00:43:15.910
We revised the structure of a subset of our proceedings,

00:43:15.910 --> 00:43:18.420
quasi legislative proceedings

00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:20.030
so that they're better defined

00:43:20.030 --> 00:43:22.510
and so that we can distinguish these matters

00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.453
from other types of Commission proceedings.

00:43:28.032 --> 00:43:30.850
The rules go on to identify the tools

00:43:30.850 --> 00:43:32.740
that we should presumptively use

00:43:32.740 --> 00:43:36.850
in quasi legislative proceedings for engaging the public.

00:43:36.850 --> 00:43:41.100
And these include tools like staff reports, workshops

00:43:41.100 --> 00:43:43.320
and public outreach.

00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:48.220
We've also clarified how members of the public

00:43:48.220 --> 00:43:51.420
who are not formal parties to our proceedings

00:43:51.420 --> 00:43:54.600
can nonetheless comment on these formal proceedings

00:43:54.600 --> 00:43:58.270
and we've indicated how their comments may be reflected

00:43:58.270 --> 00:43:59.510
in our decisions.

00:43:59.510 --> 00:44:03.520
So those are just some of the highlights of this package.

00:44:03.520 --> 00:44:05.040
Next steps.

00:44:05.040 --> 00:44:06.760
The office of administrative law

00:44:08.201 --> 00:44:09.930
will review the proposed changes,

00:44:09.930 --> 00:44:12.440
which hopefully we'll adapt today.

00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.750
And if they're approved, the normal schedule

00:44:14.750 --> 00:44:16.640
would be for them to go into effect

00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:19.690
by July 1st of this year.

00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:23.380
We intend to request an earlier effective date

00:44:23.380 --> 00:44:27.243
of May 1st so that we can get these rules in place.

00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:30.700
I gave a lot of thanks the last time

00:44:30.700 --> 00:44:33.790
these rules were before us, but I wanna reiterate.

00:44:33.790 --> 00:44:37.260
My many thanks to the numerous stakeholders

00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:39.220
who've engaged throughout this process,

00:44:39.220 --> 00:44:42.250
including our workshops and public hearings

00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:46.830
and to the mini Commission staff members who worked on this.

00:44:46.830 --> 00:44:51.720
I wanna especially single out judges Park and Yacktman

00:44:51.720 --> 00:44:53.660
for their institutional knowledge

00:44:53.660 --> 00:44:57.450
and for very skillfully managing our filings

00:44:57.450 --> 00:45:00.140
with the office of administrative law.

00:45:00.140 --> 00:45:03.330
I wanna give a shout out to former Commissioner

00:45:03.330 --> 00:45:04.510
Leanne Randolph.

00:45:04.510 --> 00:45:08.650
She co-led this initiative during her term

00:45:08.650 --> 00:45:13.440
and her chair and co-chair stints

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.870
on the policy and governance committee,

00:45:15.870 --> 00:45:19.330
as well as the many staff who worked on this

00:45:19.330 --> 00:45:24.330
in our offices, Sean Simon, and Sydney George in my staff

00:45:24.570 --> 00:45:29.490
and in conditional Randolph Staff, Suzanne Kasasa

00:45:29.490 --> 00:45:30.487
and Annan Basila.

00:45:32.550 --> 00:45:35.003
So with that, I asked for your support.

00:45:36.710 --> 00:45:38.287
<v ->Thank you very much Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

00:45:38.287 --> 00:45:41.690
And I just want to add my voice to that of yours

00:45:41.690 --> 00:45:42.920
in thanking the staff.

00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.260
This was an incredible undertaking

00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:50.260
and people talk all the time about our archaic processes

00:45:50.492 --> 00:45:52.311
and that we need to streamlining

00:45:52.311 --> 00:45:55.360
and we need to be more accessible and indeed more effective.

00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.360
And all of the hard work that you and Commissioner Randolph

00:46:00.430 --> 00:46:03.830
put in along with the staff was really quite tremendous

00:46:03.830 --> 00:46:06.110
and really moved our meter forward.

00:46:06.110 --> 00:46:08.040
So I wanna thank you very much,

00:46:08.040 --> 00:46:12.030
and I'm excited about these changes.

00:46:12.030 --> 00:46:16.300
And as you mentioned in the post pandemic era,

00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:19.130
we've really made strides during the pandemic

00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:21.300
and these changes will continue

00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:25.927
and it's a positive thoughtful approach

00:46:27.300 --> 00:46:28.960
to doing some streamlining

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:30.690
and making our processes more effective.

00:46:30.690 --> 00:46:34.083
So thank you and I certainly will have my support.

00:46:36.310 --> 00:46:38.773
Any other comments on item number seven?

00:46:40.970 --> 00:46:43.760
Okay, see none, will the agenda clerk please call the role.

00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.874
<v ->President Batjer, sorry.</v>

00:46:45.874 --> 00:46:46.707
Unfortunately--

00:46:46.707 --> 00:46:48.706
(distorted sound)

00:46:48.706 --> 00:46:49.539
<v ->Sorry, Martha, I can't see you.</v>

00:46:49.539 --> 00:46:52.480
So either way everybody just speak up if you want.

00:46:54.497 --> 00:46:56.500
Mrs. Guzman Aceves.

00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:59.750
<v ->Thank you Commissioner Rechtschaffen</v>

00:46:59.750 --> 00:47:04.563
has been a tremendous amount of work and interesting,

00:47:06.020 --> 00:47:09.230
some of the clarifications I think no language

00:47:09.230 --> 00:47:11.090
are even clear.

00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:16.090
I want to maybe go back to an item on page 17,

00:47:16.870 --> 00:47:20.640
the striking of the reference to the tribal land policy

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:23.830
and implementing guidelines and request

00:47:23.830 --> 00:47:27.243
if it's not a issue with any the timing,

00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:34.080
a friendly amendment here to strike that provision.

00:47:34.080 --> 00:47:36.980
I know at the time we had assessed

00:47:36.980 --> 00:47:41.980
that given that we had yet to adopt the guidelines,

00:47:43.140 --> 00:47:48.140
it was like many of these changes, you said something

00:47:48.170 --> 00:47:51.000
and we miss an opportunity for a new change.

00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:56.000
So just to see your thoughts on the ability to strike that

00:47:56.100 --> 00:47:58.850
now that the guidelines have been formally adopted.

00:48:03.810 --> 00:48:06.410
<v ->I'm gonna try to pull up the reference.</v>

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Unfortunately, what I'm worried about is that any change

00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:14.240
at this slight late date might disrupt our process

00:48:14.240 --> 00:48:16.540
since we have been working closely

00:48:16.540 --> 00:48:18.680
with the office of administrative law

00:48:18.680 --> 00:48:23.630
to make sure that we're copacetic with their suggestions.

00:48:23.630 --> 00:48:28.630
I'm leery about even introducing anything even minor

00:48:28.700 --> 00:48:33.260
because if we delay the time of submission,

00:48:33.260 --> 00:48:35.450
we get off their six month calendar,

00:48:35.450 --> 00:48:37.080
we might have to start from scratch.

00:48:37.080 --> 00:48:40.910
So, that's my concern.

00:48:40.910 --> 00:48:43.660
I'm a little bit worried about doing anything.

00:48:43.660 --> 00:48:45.270
I'm risk averse.

00:48:45.270 --> 00:48:49.050
<v ->Yeah, I share that concern, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

00:48:49.050 --> 00:48:51.290
I take your point well, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.

00:48:51.290 --> 00:48:55.480
However a minor change can put us back off calendar

00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:59.550
as well as back out for a 15 day comment if not 45,

00:48:59.550 --> 00:49:04.550
depending on how the office of administrative law

00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:06.467
sees the change.

00:49:13.940 --> 00:49:16.110
Maybe it's another additional,

00:49:16.110 --> 00:49:18.940
I mean, we will continue reforms,

00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:20.340
we must continue reform.

00:49:20.340 --> 00:49:24.830
So perhaps we can take that particular concern up

00:49:24.830 --> 00:49:29.830
in our next processes of change and reform.

00:49:34.156 --> 00:49:35.210
<v ->Well, we certainly can do that.</v>

00:49:35.210 --> 00:49:39.570
And as you say, we've grouped a bunch of changes

00:49:39.570 --> 00:49:42.630
in this package, but it's not the end of the story.

00:49:42.630 --> 00:49:44.983
And there are things we never got to

00:49:44.983 --> 00:49:46.943
that we hope to get to going forward.

00:49:54.450 --> 00:49:57.760
<v ->President Batjer, I did have some comments for this item.</v>

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I'm gonna defer to Commissioner Rechtschaffen

00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:03.240
on the issue regarding the tribal land policy

00:50:03.240 --> 00:50:04.380
so that it's not delayed.

00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:06.740
And I don't think that it prevents us

00:50:06.740 --> 00:50:11.260
from further considering it or implementing the policy

00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.093
with the current regulations.

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But I did have some brief comments.

00:50:16.120 --> 00:50:17.383
<v ->Sure, go ahead please.</v>

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<v ->So I wanted to thank Commissioner Rechtschaffen</v>

00:50:21.750 --> 00:50:23.720
and former Commissioner Randolph for all the work

00:50:23.720 --> 00:50:26.150
and leading this effort to revise the rules of practice

00:50:26.150 --> 00:50:27.153
and procedure.

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The amendments will ensure consistency

00:50:30.690 --> 00:50:32.250
with the statutory requirements

00:50:32.250 --> 00:50:34.280
and enhanced transparency and effectiveness

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.820
of the process and echo Commissioner Rechtschaffen's

00:50:36.820 --> 00:50:39.730
thanks to everyone that was part of this initiative

00:50:39.730 --> 00:50:42.540
including the stakeholders, ALJ and legal divisions

00:50:42.540 --> 00:50:45.480
and the many PUC staff who worked on the project,

00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.780
specifically recognizing the contributions

00:50:47.780 --> 00:50:49.990
of the lead drafters and ALJ division

00:50:49.990 --> 00:50:53.470
Judge Jackman and Judge Park, as well as Christine Powell

00:50:53.470 --> 00:50:57.430
my interim chief of staff and my advisors, Suzanne Kasasa

00:50:57.430 --> 00:50:59.870
who supported Commissioner Randolph in this effort.

00:50:59.870 --> 00:51:02.653
And I'm supporting moving this forward.

00:51:05.140 --> 00:51:09.280
<v ->Okay, I'm going to ask Anne if we need to take</v>

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.370
any formal action on Commissioner Guzman Aceves'

00:51:13.370 --> 00:51:16.483
suggestion on a friendly amendment.

00:51:17.600 --> 00:51:21.870
Do we need to literally have a motion for that

00:51:21.870 --> 00:51:23.323
and then vote on it?

00:51:24.830 --> 00:51:28.010
<v ->President Batjer, you don't need a motion.</v>

00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:30.480
You could consider it as part of the discussion

00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.330
unless Commissioner Guzman Aceves wants to make a motion

00:51:34.330 --> 00:51:36.300
and then you would vote separately

00:51:36.300 --> 00:51:39.763
on the proposed amendment and then on the main item.

00:51:40.680 --> 00:51:43.166
<v ->Thank you for that clarification.</v>

00:51:43.166 --> 00:51:46.420
Commissioner Guzman Aceves, did you want something

00:51:46.420 --> 00:51:49.080
<v ->It didn't sound like Commissioner Rechtschaffen</v>

00:51:49.080 --> 00:51:50.050
wants to risk that.

00:51:50.050 --> 00:51:52.810
So I will no make a motion.

00:51:52.810 --> 00:51:55.440
<v ->Okay, thank you Commissioner.</v>

00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.060
Okay, with that, I will ask the agenda clerk

00:51:58.060 --> 00:52:01.413
to please call the roll in this item number seven.

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<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

00:52:05.690 --> 00:52:06.523
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:52:08.460 --> 00:52:09.720
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

00:52:09.720 --> 00:52:10.553
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:52:12.070 --> 00:52:13.890
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

00:52:13.890 --> 00:52:14.723
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:52:16.020 --> 00:52:18.309
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

00:52:18.309 --> 00:52:19.142
<v ->Aye.</v>

00:52:20.085 --> 00:52:21.150
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

00:52:21.150 --> 00:52:21.990
<v ->Aye.</v>

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The vote is unanimous.

00:52:23.870 --> 00:52:25.000
Thank you.

00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.100
We're moving on now to item number 27,

00:52:29.100 --> 00:52:32.160
the order instituting rulemaking to update

00:52:32.160 --> 00:52:35.203
the surcharge mechanism for the public purpose program.

00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:39.610
Director Rob Osborn and Felix Robert

00:52:41.749 --> 00:52:44.983
from the communications division will give the presentation.

00:52:46.210 --> 00:52:48.533
We will take a vote after the presentation.

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<v Rob>Thank you, President Batjer.</v>

00:52:52.620 --> 00:52:53.810
Can you hear me?

00:52:53.810 --> 00:52:55.793
<v Marybel>Yes, we can hear you fine, Rob.</v>

00:52:57.210 --> 00:52:59.900
<v ->Thank you for your time today, Commissioners</v>

00:52:59.900 --> 00:53:00.960
in allowing me to present.

00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.177
I'm joined by Felix Roblis,

00:53:02.177 --> 00:53:05.020
the program and project supervisor of the high cost

00:53:05.020 --> 00:53:07.970
fund A and B and surcharge collection.

00:53:07.970 --> 00:53:10.840
I have four slides to present and falling that,

00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.730
Felix and I are available for questions.

00:53:13.730 --> 00:53:16.330
The purpose of this OIR and maybe we could pull

00:53:16.330 --> 00:53:20.123
the slides up or the presentation.

00:53:21.300 --> 00:53:24.070
If we could go back to the first line before we go on this,

00:53:24.070 --> 00:53:25.640
thank you.

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The purpose of this OIR is to address the need

00:53:27.900 --> 00:53:31.570
for sustainable and cost-effective methods for funding

00:53:31.570 --> 00:53:35.470
the state's universal service, public purpose programs.

00:53:35.470 --> 00:53:37.760
The current funding mechanism is based

00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.980
on a percentage surcharge applied

00:53:39.980 --> 00:53:43.990
to intrastate telecommunication services revenue

00:53:43.990 --> 00:53:46.860
and it's not sustainable due to the continuing decline

00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:49.640
of interest state revenue billing base

00:53:49.640 --> 00:53:52.160
reported by service providers.

00:53:52.160 --> 00:53:55.190
This rulemaking seeks to implement a straightforward

00:53:55.190 --> 00:53:57.030
and flexible structure for providers

00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:59.190
to collect and remit surcharges

00:53:59.190 --> 00:54:01.490
to support the public purpose programs

00:54:01.490 --> 00:54:03.690
while also collecting user fees.

00:54:03.690 --> 00:54:06.770
We see very significant upsides for consumers,

00:54:06.770 --> 00:54:08.730
carriers and the state.

00:54:08.730 --> 00:54:11.020
For consumers, it's more equitable

00:54:11.020 --> 00:54:13.330
because there will no longer be differences

00:54:13.330 --> 00:54:17.060
based on technology where a traditional landline customer

00:54:17.060 --> 00:54:20.350
pays two to 10 times more than a wireless

00:54:20.350 --> 00:54:22.560
or a VIP customer.

00:54:22.560 --> 00:54:25.064
For carriers, a flat rate mechanism or a per connection

00:54:25.064 --> 00:54:28.900
surcharge is easier to calculate and remit

00:54:28.900 --> 00:54:31.170
than calculating interest state revenue.

00:54:31.170 --> 00:54:33.610
And for the state, a per connection surcharges

00:54:33.610 --> 00:54:36.940
is easier to track and audit and it provides a more reliable

00:54:36.940 --> 00:54:39.500
and predictable revenue base for the PUC to plan

00:54:39.500 --> 00:54:42.250
and fund universal service programs.

00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:45.480
This OIR would be separated into two phases.

00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.630
Phase one would consider reforming the surcharge mechanism

00:54:48.630 --> 00:54:51.240
as it is today and the user fee

00:54:51.240 --> 00:54:53.100
from the existing revenue based approach

00:54:53.100 --> 00:54:56.500
to a per access line flat rate and user mechanism

00:54:56.500 --> 00:54:59.170
by January, 2022.

00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:01.650
Phase two would review the reasonableness

00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:04.120
of the surcharges and user fees,

00:55:04.120 --> 00:55:06.700
the telecommunications service providers impose

00:55:06.700 --> 00:55:08.820
on end-users as well as additional taxes

00:55:08.820 --> 00:55:11.420
fees and surcharges assessed by federal state

00:55:11.420 --> 00:55:13.310
and local governments.

00:55:13.310 --> 00:55:18.100
Governor Newsome's 2021/2022 budget highlights the effect

00:55:18.100 --> 00:55:21.970
of hidden fees and surcharges on broadband service.

00:55:21.970 --> 00:55:24.960
It said even for those with an available connection

00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:26.840
broadband service can still be out of reach

00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:28.710
because it is on affordable.

00:55:28.710 --> 00:55:30.610
Hidden fees and expensive devices

00:55:30.610 --> 00:55:32.980
can make access unattainable.

00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:36.280
An estimated 31% of Californians with internet access

00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.770
have not adopted broadband had benchmark speeds.

00:55:39.770 --> 00:55:40.900
And the national model review

00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:43.110
stated that the federal universal service fund

00:55:43.110 --> 00:55:48.070
contribution factor which 31.8% for the first quarter

00:55:48.070 --> 00:55:51.380
of 2021 and the widespread recognition

00:55:51.380 --> 00:55:53.010
of broadband as an essential service,

00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:55.350
particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic

00:55:55.350 --> 00:55:57.130
may prove to be the tipping point

00:55:57.130 --> 00:55:59.890
on universal service contribution reform.

00:55:59.890 --> 00:56:00.943
Next slide, please.

00:56:02.410 --> 00:56:05.810
The billing base is the total of interest state revenue

00:56:05.810 --> 00:56:08.007
reported by all the authorized carriers

00:56:08.007 --> 00:56:10.750
and the data is collected and maintained

00:56:10.750 --> 00:56:13.500
through the Commissions telecommunication

00:56:13.500 --> 00:56:17.780
user fee filing system, otherwise known as TUFS.

00:56:17.780 --> 00:56:21.040
This graph shows the declining reported intrastate

00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:23.450
billing base against which the state's universal

00:56:23.450 --> 00:56:25.940
service program surcharges are assessed.

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:27.560
You can see there's a downward trend

00:56:27.560 --> 00:56:30.770
that has been continuing since 2012.

00:56:30.770 --> 00:56:32.720
In a later slide, I'll show some examples

00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:35.880
of how the surcharges vary by technology.

00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:39.460
You can see the yellow up above the wireless

00:56:40.410 --> 00:56:42.570
is declining rather rapidly.

00:56:42.570 --> 00:56:44.760
And there's several reasons for that.

00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.200
So for wireless, which is also mobile service,

00:56:48.200 --> 00:56:50.400
text messaging and data are classified

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:55.052
as information services effective December 12th, 2018

00:56:55.052 --> 00:56:59.150
pursuant to the FCC and are not subject to CPC surcharges.

00:56:59.150 --> 00:57:01.730
This contributed to an immediate and sizable decline

00:57:01.730 --> 00:57:04.640
in wireless intrastate revenue reporting.

00:57:04.640 --> 00:57:06.780
Also competition amongst cellular providers

00:57:06.780 --> 00:57:09.670
have driven down the cost of retail monthly service plans

00:57:09.670 --> 00:57:12.410
for end users resulting in decreased intrastate

00:57:12.410 --> 00:57:14.196
revenue reporting.

00:57:14.196 --> 00:57:16.790
Voicemail services are also classified

00:57:16.790 --> 00:57:18.090
as information services.

00:57:18.090 --> 00:57:21.520
So that's not no longer included in intrastate revenue.

00:57:21.520 --> 00:57:24.560
And then finally, as we're all aware the subscribership

00:57:24.560 --> 00:57:27.630
for plain old telephone service for your land line

00:57:28.667 --> 00:57:29.500
is declining gradually as well.

00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:31.050
And you'll see that on the blue graph

00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:33.290
in the reported revenue intrastate revenue

00:57:33.290 --> 00:57:35.470
for wireline is declining.

00:57:35.470 --> 00:57:36.583
Next slide, please.

00:57:38.220 --> 00:57:41.700
The graph at the center shows how the Commission

00:57:41.700 --> 00:57:43.900
has had to raise surcharges over time

00:57:43.900 --> 00:57:48.020
as the reported intrastate revenue has declined.

00:57:48.020 --> 00:57:51.190
So you can see in 2012, the total surcharges

00:57:51.190 --> 00:57:55.050
for all six programs was 2.27%

00:57:55.050 --> 00:57:59.930
and it has gone up to 7.749% in 2020.

00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.710
The table at the top shows the current surcharges

00:58:03.710 --> 00:58:07.970
and just going from the left, we have the ULTS,

00:58:07.970 --> 00:58:10.230
which is the Universal Lifeline Telephone Service,

00:58:10.230 --> 00:58:14.010
4.75 DDTP is Deaf and Disabled Program.

00:58:14.010 --> 00:58:17.013
That surcharge is set in statute at 0.5%.

00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:20.550
High cost fund aid, California High Cost Fund A,

00:58:20.550 --> 00:58:24.700
CHCF A is 0.7, High Cost Fund B is currently zero.

00:58:24.700 --> 00:58:29.100
And that we reduced that to zero back in 2014

00:58:29.100 --> 00:58:32.260
because we had an abundance of money in that account

00:58:32.260 --> 00:58:34.930
and we wanted to spend down the balance.

00:58:34.930 --> 00:58:38.020
California Teleconnect CTF is 0.78%,

00:58:38.020 --> 00:58:42.610
and the California Events Services Fund is 1.019%

00:58:42.610 --> 00:58:44.513
totaling 7.749%.

00:58:46.170 --> 00:58:47.093
Next slide please.

00:58:48.970 --> 00:58:51.290
So this slide shows specific examples

00:58:51.290 --> 00:58:54.070
of how public purpose program surcharges are assessed

00:58:54.070 --> 00:58:56.560
on different kinds of telephone service.

00:58:56.560 --> 00:58:59.490
At the top, we have an example from a traditional AT&amp;T

00:58:59.490 --> 00:59:02.830
of landline bill, and this bill is from 2018.

00:59:02.830 --> 00:59:04.840
So you'll see that the surcharge total

00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:09.130
which is in the first, sorry, just to the left

00:59:09.130 --> 00:59:13.730
of the first red box, which says 6.94%.

00:59:13.730 --> 00:59:17.610
That's below the current rate of 7.749.

00:59:17.610 --> 00:59:19.180
And that's because the the surcharges

00:59:19.180 --> 00:59:23.080
were lower back in 2018, so we're using older bill.

00:59:23.080 --> 00:59:25.720
But even back then you can see how the total surcharge

00:59:25.720 --> 00:59:28.030
amount collected for that wireline bill

00:59:28.030 --> 00:59:31.470
is significantly larger than the one right below it.

00:59:31.470 --> 00:59:36.470
So the $2.89 cents for the ATT plain old telephone service

00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:39.648
is the amount collected for that customer.

00:59:39.648 --> 00:59:43.260
And then the AT$T mobile right below that is only 29 cents.

00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:45.850
And this kind of underscores the difference

00:59:45.850 --> 00:59:47.970
in how the surcharges are assessed

00:59:47.970 --> 00:59:50.720
against different technologies.

00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:53.380
So I've spoken a little bit about why the difference

00:59:53.380 --> 00:59:55.760
between wireline and wireless.

00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.070
If you think about your wire line

00:59:58.070 --> 01:00:00.310
on your plain old telephone, all you're using that for

01:00:00.310 --> 01:00:01.240
is telephone service.

01:00:01.240 --> 01:00:05.950
You're not going on to YouTube, or you're not doing

01:00:05.950 --> 01:00:08.010
all sorts of other activities like surfing the web,

01:00:08.010 --> 01:00:09.150
it's simply for telephone.

01:00:09.150 --> 01:00:11.380
And that's why it's significantly higher

01:00:11.380 --> 01:00:14.033
in terms of reported intrastate revenue.

01:00:14.900 --> 01:00:15.803
Next slide please.

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So according to near route 20 states

01:00:19.220 --> 01:00:21.280
have already transitioned from an intrastate

01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:22.740
revenue based funding mechanism

01:00:22.740 --> 01:00:24.960
to a per connection charge.

01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:27.000
And you can see the list of states here.

01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.510
And just as an example, New Mexico,

01:00:29.510 --> 01:00:31.820
they had a per connection surcharge

01:00:31.820 --> 01:00:36.330
that was $1.17 per month per subscriber in 2018.

01:00:36.330 --> 01:00:38.750
That was based on roughly 3 million connections.

01:00:38.750 --> 01:00:42.570
And that monthly fee pays for the state's rural universal

01:00:42.570 --> 01:00:43.403
service fund.

01:00:43.403 --> 01:00:45.250
It's essentially like our high cost fund aid

01:00:45.250 --> 01:00:48.860
paying for rural telephone service in high cost areas.

01:00:48.860 --> 01:00:52.410
And just then for other state comparisons,

01:00:52.410 --> 01:00:54.210
there's 33 states that are collecting

01:00:54.210 --> 01:00:57.860
for our equivalent of DDTP the deaf and disabled

01:00:57.860 --> 01:00:59.680
telephone program.

01:00:59.680 --> 01:01:03.110
Lifeline, there's 17 states collecting surcharges

01:01:03.110 --> 01:01:06.940
for lifeline and there's also broadband programs

01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:07.773
that are collected.

01:01:07.773 --> 01:01:09.780
And again, all of that is included

01:01:09.780 --> 01:01:11.720
in a single per connection surcharge

01:01:11.720 --> 01:01:14.860
as opposed to based on intrastate revenue.

01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:16.760
So I know we've gone through a lot

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.400
and I wanted to open it up for questions.

01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.770
And as I said earlier, Felix and I are available

01:01:21.770 --> 01:01:23.743
to answer any questions you may have.

01:01:26.860 --> 01:01:29.510
<v ->Thank you, Director Osborne for your presentation</v>

01:01:29.510 --> 01:01:31.220
very helpful information.

01:01:31.220 --> 01:01:34.600
This truly is becoming a dire situation.

01:01:34.600 --> 01:01:37.760
It was concerning to me when we voted just a few months ago

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.697
to double the surcharge rate for CASF

01:01:42.141 --> 01:01:43.820
and the high cost fund programs.

01:01:43.820 --> 01:01:47.040
And that was just to maintain and not even increase

01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:48.380
in the same amount of revenue

01:01:48.380 --> 01:01:49.930
those programs were collecting.

01:01:51.080 --> 01:01:54.920
Looking forward, I'm most concerned that the deaf

01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.870
and disabled telecommunications programs

01:01:56.870 --> 01:01:58.523
will become insolvent.

01:01:59.720 --> 01:02:02.460
It's been eye opening to see the discrepancies

01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:05.910
between how much users of different services

01:02:05.910 --> 01:02:08.210
they in surcharges.

01:02:08.210 --> 01:02:10.300
There are even significant discrepancies

01:02:10.300 --> 01:02:13.130
in what different companies are offering

01:02:13.130 --> 01:02:15.663
the same service charge customers.

01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.930
It seems that the system is a little broken

01:02:20.930 --> 01:02:23.860
and I'm looking forward to this proceeding

01:02:23.860 --> 01:02:27.540
to fix these issues and set our public policy programs

01:02:27.540 --> 01:02:29.590
on a solid and equitable foundation.

01:02:29.590 --> 01:02:31.490
That is of course those areas

01:02:31.490 --> 01:02:35.952
that we have the authority to fix.

01:02:35.952 --> 01:02:40.430
So thank you again, and I will be supporting this OIR.

01:02:40.430 --> 01:02:42.850
I'm going to ask my fellow Commissioners,

01:02:42.850 --> 01:02:46.870
if any of them have comments on this item,

01:02:46.870 --> 01:02:48.393
which is item 27.

01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:54.710
<v ->Yes, thank you, President Batjer.</v>

01:02:54.710 --> 01:02:56.030
<v ->Yes, thank you.</v>

01:02:56.030 --> 01:02:58.460
Commissioner Shiroma, please, go ahead.

01:02:58.460 --> 01:02:59.293
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:02:59.293 --> 01:03:02.550
Yes, I'm also in support of opening this rulemaking

01:03:02.550 --> 01:03:07.550
and I want to thank communications division staff.

01:03:09.710 --> 01:03:12.440
Thank you, Rob, for your presentation

01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.780
to the administrative division on the work

01:03:15.780 --> 01:03:17.973
on putting together this proposed OIR.

01:03:19.470 --> 01:03:22.660
The CPUP six public purpose programs

01:03:22.660 --> 01:03:25.610
provide essential services and assistance

01:03:25.610 --> 01:03:27.620
to me as a household.

01:03:27.620 --> 01:03:30.850
And for example, the lifeline program

01:03:30.850 --> 01:03:35.495
currently provides free or discounted phone

01:03:35.495 --> 01:03:38.917
and broadband service to about 1.7 million

01:03:40.180 --> 01:03:42.310
California households.

01:03:42.310 --> 01:03:44.593
This is essential services.

01:03:45.427 --> 01:03:48.770
However, even in providing that service,

01:03:48.770 --> 01:03:53.590
that is only about 40% of the eligible households

01:03:53.590 --> 01:03:55.840
that could be enrolled in the program.

01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.590
Now that is actually one of the highest rates

01:03:59.590 --> 01:04:01.653
for lifeline programs in the nation.

01:04:03.630 --> 01:04:06.520
But from our standards that's still considered

01:04:06.520 --> 01:04:08.700
a low enrollment.

01:04:08.700 --> 01:04:11.360
So as a CPUC works to increase that enrollment,

01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:14.250
we must also work to make sure the funding

01:04:15.629 --> 01:04:17.220
is adequate and sustainable.

01:04:17.220 --> 01:04:20.823
And all the more that is why is OIR is needed.

01:04:21.770 --> 01:04:24.240
We're fortunate to be living in a time of rapid

01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:25.210
technological developments,

01:04:25.210 --> 01:04:29.190
where new methods of communication make it easier to connect

01:04:29.190 --> 01:04:30.950
and its essential to connect.

01:04:30.950 --> 01:04:35.950
Yet, we need to align our public purpose programs funding

01:04:36.060 --> 01:04:36.980
for this shift.

01:04:36.980 --> 01:04:40.554
So otherwise we risk the future

01:04:40.554 --> 01:04:43.800
of these vital services for so many Californians.

01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.010
So thank you to everyone who worked on this proposed OIR

01:04:47.010 --> 01:04:48.750
and I'm pleased to support it.

01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:49.583
Thank you.

01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:52.930
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

01:04:52.930 --> 01:04:54.383
Are there any other comments?

01:04:55.600 --> 01:04:58.730
<v ->Yes, President Batjer, this is Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:04:58.730 --> 01:05:01.640
Just a brief comment, I wanted to thank the communications

01:05:01.640 --> 01:05:04.790
division staff for presenting the item and ALJ fortune

01:05:04.790 --> 01:05:06.930
for preparing the order.

01:05:06.930 --> 01:05:09.040
Our public purpose programs are important tools

01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:11.740
for increasing access to phone and internet services

01:05:11.740 --> 01:05:14.710
for all Californians and the communications industry

01:05:14.710 --> 01:05:17.080
and related technologies have changed drastically

01:05:17.080 --> 01:05:19.800
since the inception of these programs.

01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:21.460
This rulemaking will provide the Commission

01:05:21.460 --> 01:05:23.630
a forum to hear from stakeholders and a vehicle

01:05:23.630 --> 01:05:27.200
to modernize the public purpose program funding mechanisms.

01:05:27.200 --> 01:05:29.183
I'm also mindful that the surcharges

01:05:29.183 --> 01:05:31.007
are out up on customer bills, and in particular

01:05:31.007 --> 01:05:34.064
out up on customer bills, and in particular

01:05:34.064 --> 01:05:36.239
for those customers that rely on wireline service.

01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.340
And with that, I will be supporting the decision

01:05:38.340 --> 01:05:40.760
<v ->Thank you, Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:41.860
Any other comments.

01:05:41.860 --> 01:05:44.020
Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.

01:05:44.020 --> 01:05:47.320
<v ->I wanna echo what my colleagues have said.</v>

01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.460
This is an extremely important

01:05:50.460 --> 01:05:54.140
and very very timely rulemaking.

01:05:54.140 --> 01:05:58.370
It's way past debate that access to communication

01:05:58.370 --> 01:06:01.672
is essential in today's world.

01:06:01.672 --> 01:06:04.351
that access to communication is essential in today's world.

01:06:04.351 --> 01:06:08.060
We've seen dramatically during the pandemic

01:06:08.060 --> 01:06:12.723
our surcharge to keep up with the changing market.

01:06:13.903 --> 01:06:18.211
And it is critical that we have a sustainable

01:06:18.211 --> 01:06:21.033
And it's critical that we have a sustainable

01:06:21.033 --> 01:06:23.756
and predictable source of funding

01:06:23.756 --> 01:06:25.030
programs that Rob and Commissioner Shiroma described.

01:06:26.927 --> 01:06:31.177
programs that Robyn Commissioner Shiroma described.

01:06:32.953 --> 01:06:34.860
<v ->Thank you Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:06:34.860 --> 01:06:37.238
Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.

01:06:37.238 --> 01:06:38.850
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:06:38.850 --> 01:06:40.450
for finally bringing this forward.

01:06:40.450 --> 01:06:42.780
It's so long overdue a forum, and I look forward

01:06:42.780 --> 01:06:43.893
to a quick PD.

01:06:46.489 --> 01:06:48.243
overdue a forum, and I look forward to a quick PD.

01:06:50.020 --> 01:06:51.870
Thank you Commissioner Guzman Aceves.

01:06:53.594 --> 01:06:54.427
Thank you.

01:06:56.774 --> 01:06:59.273
And I just wanna say again, thank you,

01:06:59.273 --> 01:07:03.174
Rob and Felix, for all your hard work

01:07:03.174 --> 01:07:04.007
and those of your colleagues on this effort.

01:07:04.007 --> 01:07:08.640
<v ->So with that, I'm going to ask the agenda clerk</v>

01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:11.233
to please call the roll on item number 27.

01:07:13.430 --> 01:07:15.241
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:07:15.241 --> 01:07:17.091
<v ->Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:07:17.091 --> 01:07:18.217
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman, excuse me.</v>

01:07:18.217 --> 01:07:19.616
Commissioner Shiroma.

01:07:19.616 --> 01:07:22.195
<v ->Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:07:22.195 --> 01:07:24.041
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:07:24.041 --> 01:07:24.874
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:07:26.275 --> 01:07:28.064
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:07:28.064 --> 01:07:29.610
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:07:29.610 --> 01:07:30.747
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

01:07:30.747 --> 01:07:32.070
<v ->Aye.</v>

01:07:32.070 --> 01:07:35.430
Thank you very much, item 27 is passed unanimously.

01:07:35.430 --> 01:07:38.197
Moving on now to item 29

01:07:38.197 --> 01:07:42.900
Item 27 is passed unanimously moving on now to item 29

01:07:42.900 --> 01:07:45.528
which is Commissioner Rechtschaffen to present.

01:07:45.528 --> 01:07:47.945
<v ->This is an extension order.</v>

01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.200
This proceeding relates to the proposed acquisition

01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:54.360
by California American Water Company.

01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.930
by California American water company.

01:07:59.290 --> 01:08:02.770
and it was subsequently withdrawn

01:08:02.770 --> 01:08:04.880
as we decided to reopen the record

01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.180
to take additional evidence

01:08:07.180 --> 01:08:09.037
take additional evidence

01:08:09.990 --> 01:08:13.780
of the Bellflower Water System.

01:08:13.780 --> 01:08:17.280
As directed by the assigned judge Callahan,

01:08:17.280 --> 01:08:19.430
has submitted a list of contractors

01:08:19.430 --> 01:08:23.102
qualified to conduct the evaluation.

01:08:23.102 --> 01:08:26.066
of contractors qualified to conduct the evaluation.

01:08:26.066 --> 01:08:28.933
The water division is reviewing that list

01:08:28.933 --> 01:08:33.218
in extension of the deadline until next March,

01:08:33.218 --> 01:08:35.906
March 15th, 2022, is needed to allow sufficient time

01:08:35.906 --> 01:08:39.013
for the evaluation to be completed

01:08:39.013 --> 01:08:42.315
for the parties to respond to the evaluation

01:08:42.315 --> 01:08:45.470
and for a proposed decision to be issued in and voted on.

01:08:45.470 --> 01:08:46.935
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

01:08:46.935 --> 01:08:47.768
Thank you.

01:08:52.020 --> 01:08:53.990
Okay, seeing none, will the agenda clerk

01:08:53.990 --> 01:08:55.040
please call the roll.

01:08:56.801 --> 01:08:58.228
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:08:58.228 --> 01:08:59.710
<v ->Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:08:59.710 --> 01:09:01.260
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:09:02.177 --> 01:09:03.010
<v ->Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:09:04.841 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:07.473
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:09:08.550 --> 01:09:10.817
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:09:10.817 --> 01:09:11.750
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:09:11.750 --> 01:09:13.390
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

01:09:13.390 --> 01:09:14.860
<v ->Aye.</v>

01:09:14.860 --> 01:09:15.693
Thank you.

01:09:15.693 --> 01:09:18.760
Item 29 is passed unanimously, thank you.

01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:22.223
Moving on now to item 30, Commissioner Guzman Aceves

01:09:22.223 --> 01:09:23.306
will present.

01:09:24.151 --> 01:09:24.984
on now to item 30 Commissioner Guzman Surveys will present.

01:09:24.984 --> 01:09:25.984
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:09:28.336 --> 01:09:31.052
This item is the order extending the statutory deadline

01:09:31.052 --> 01:09:33.190
for the direct access proceeding.

01:09:33.190 --> 01:09:36.969
We are in phase two of this proceeding

01:09:36.969 --> 01:09:41.907
and we've been considering the legislative mandates

01:09:41.907 --> 01:09:42.740
under SPC 37, and particularly to provide a recommendation

01:09:47.978 --> 01:09:50.916
on how potentially to reopen the direct access cap.

01:09:50.916 --> 01:09:53.630
but since the deadline is March 15th,

01:09:53.630 --> 01:09:56.630
but since the deadline is March 15th

01:09:58.695 --> 01:10:00.620
I wanted to extend the deadline to June 30th of this year.

01:10:00.620 --> 01:10:02.024
Thank you.

01:10:02.024 --> 01:10:06.717
Are there any questions on item number 30 or comments?.

01:10:07.790 --> 01:10:09.780
Okay, seeing none, will the agenda clerk,

01:10:09.780 --> 01:10:10.830
please call the roll?

01:10:13.696 --> 01:10:15.487
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:10:15.487 --> 01:10:16.895
<v ->Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:10:16.895 --> 01:10:19.078
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:10:19.078 --> 01:10:20.636
<v ->Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:10:20.636 --> 01:10:22.761
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:10:22.761 --> 01:10:24.188
<v ->Michelle Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:10:24.188 --> 01:10:25.021
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:10:26.422 --> 01:10:27.520
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:29.572
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

01:10:29.572 --> 01:10:30.405
<v ->President Batjer.</v>

01:10:30.405 --> 01:10:31.238
Thank you.

01:10:31.238 --> 01:10:33.510
Item number 30 is passed unanimously.

01:10:33.510 --> 01:10:37.981
Moving on now to item 31, which is assigned to me.

01:10:37.981 --> 01:10:40.557
to item 31, which is assigned to me.

01:10:40.557 --> 01:10:41.437
This decision extends the statutory deadline

01:10:41.437 --> 01:10:43.020
for the proceeding.

01:10:45.591 --> 01:10:48.351
Reviewing the application of prop SF, a ferry service

01:10:48.351 --> 01:10:50.931
operating in the San Francisco Bay area.

01:10:50.931 --> 01:10:53.401
For additional authority to change their rates

01:10:53.401 --> 01:10:55.980
and modify their service territory.

01:10:55.980 --> 01:10:59.113
Additional time was necessary to provide appropriate

01:10:59.113 --> 01:11:02.396
due process to the parties that filed protests.

01:11:02.396 --> 01:11:05.600
A proposed decision is expected imminently

01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:10.310
and therefore a short extension to June 7th, 2021

01:11:10.310 --> 01:11:14.173
is necessary to allow the parties to and deliberate.

01:11:15.077 --> 01:11:18.040
allow the parties to and deliberate.

01:11:18.040 --> 01:11:20.693
I ask for your support for this extension.

01:11:20.693 --> 01:11:21.526
Thank you.

01:11:26.350 --> 01:11:29.200
Seeing none, will the agenda clerk, please call the roll?

01:11:30.970 --> 01:11:32.470
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:11:32.470 --> 01:11:34.220
<v ->Commissioner Houck.</v>

01:11:35.160 --> 01:11:36.971
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:11:36.971 --> 01:11:39.490
<v ->Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:11:39.490 --> 01:11:41.349
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:11:41.349 --> 01:11:43.766
<v ->Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:11:44.974 --> 01:11:46.987
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:11:46.987 --> 01:11:48.802
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:11:48.802 --> 01:11:50.626
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

01:11:50.626 --> 01:11:51.643
<v ->President Batjer.</v>

01:11:51.643 --> 01:11:52.580
<v ->Aye.</v>

01:11:52.580 --> 01:11:55.500
Item 31 is passed unanimously.

01:11:55.500 --> 01:11:59.060
Item 32 is also assigned to me,

01:11:59.060 --> 01:12:01.640
this order extending statutory deadline

01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:05.533
is for the consolidated proceeding to consider PG&amp;E 2018

01:12:07.530 --> 01:12:12.440
nuclear deCommissioning POS triennial application

01:12:12.440 --> 01:12:16.194
and authorization to establish the Diablo Canyon

01:12:16.194 --> 01:12:20.020
application and authorization to establish the Diablo Canyon

01:12:20.020 --> 01:12:23.430
In joint motion for adoption of a settlement agreement

01:12:23.430 --> 01:12:27.380
was filed by the majority of the parties in the proceeding

01:12:27.380 --> 01:12:29.130
in 2020.

01:12:29.130 --> 01:12:32.565
The Administrative Law Judge has reviewed the terms

01:12:32.565 --> 01:12:35.423
in 2020. The Administrative Law Judge has reviewed the terms

01:12:35.423 --> 01:12:39.121
of the settlement and is currently drafting a proposed

01:12:39.121 --> 01:12:41.290
An extension of the statutory deadline

01:12:41.290 --> 01:12:44.860
to September 13th, 2021, is necessary

01:12:44.860 --> 01:12:47.320
in order to allow enough time for the judge

01:12:47.320 --> 01:12:50.380
to issue a proposed decision and to allow the Commission

01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:54.836
enough time to deliberate and issue its final decision.

01:12:54.836 --> 01:12:56.286
and issue its final decision.

01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.437
I ask for your support.

01:13:01.928 --> 01:13:03.044
Any questions or comments?

01:13:03.044 --> 01:13:04.377
Okay, thank you.

01:13:08.564 --> 01:13:10.470
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck?</v>

01:13:10.470 --> 01:13:11.660
<v ->Commissioner Houck?</v>

01:13:11.660 --> 01:13:13.793
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma?</v>

01:13:13.793 --> 01:13:15.700
<v ->Commissioner Shiroma?</v>

01:13:15.700 --> 01:13:18.008
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:13:18.008 --> 01:13:19.937
<v ->Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:13:19.937 --> 01:13:22.120
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves?</v>

01:13:22.120 --> 01:13:24.139
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves?</v>

01:13:24.139 --> 01:13:26.071
<v Clerk>President Batjer?</v>

01:13:26.071 --> 01:13:27.176
<v ->Aye, thank you.</v>

01:13:27.176 --> 01:13:28.593
<v ->Aye. Thank you.</v>

01:13:31.150 --> 01:13:34.253
Commissioner Rechtschaffen that is yours to present.

01:13:35.350 --> 01:13:38.540
<v ->This extension order concerns our investigation</v>

01:13:38.540 --> 01:13:42.520
into California 1 million new internet users

01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:47.123
coalitions misuse of CASF funds.

01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.840
The parties engaged in ADR last year

01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:52.990
through 2019 to 2020 rather,

01:13:54.584 --> 01:13:57.334
through 2019 through 2020 rather,

01:14:00.801 --> 01:14:03.886
and a partial settlement was reached with several parties.

01:14:03.886 --> 01:14:07.595
A one party community union declined to settle

01:14:07.595 --> 01:14:11.158
and has not been dismissed from the investigation.

01:14:11.158 --> 01:14:14.566
It was an evidentiary hearing held last August.

01:14:14.566 --> 01:14:15.689
That party filed the motion to disqualify me

01:14:15.689 --> 01:14:18.022
as the assigned Commissioner

01:14:19.500 --> 01:14:21.570
We need to extend the proceeding deadline

01:14:21.570 --> 01:14:23.410
to address the party's motion

01:14:23.410 --> 01:14:26.299
and resolve the remaining claims of this one party

01:14:26.299 --> 01:14:28.277
that has not settled.

01:14:28.277 --> 01:14:30.702
of this one party that has not settled.

01:14:30.702 --> 01:14:35.236
I request your support to extend the deadline

01:14:35.236 --> 01:14:36.392
to September of this year.

01:14:36.392 --> 01:14:38.216
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:14:38.216 --> 01:14:41.730
Are there any comments or questions

01:14:41.730 --> 01:14:43.620
Okay, seeing none, will the agenda clerk

01:14:43.620 --> 01:14:44.670
please call the roll?

01:14:46.583 --> 01:14:48.512
<v Clerk>Commissioner Houck?</v>

01:14:48.512 --> 01:14:50.445
<v ->Commissioner Houck?</v>

01:14:50.445 --> 01:14:52.304
<v Clerk>Commissioner Shiroma.</v>

01:14:52.304 --> 01:14:53.984
<v ->Commissioner Schannoma.</v>

01:14:53.984 --> 01:14:55.866
<v Clerk>Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

01:14:55.866 --> 01:14:57.420
<v ->Commissioner Rechtschaffen..</v>

01:14:57.420 --> 01:14:59.013
<v Clerk>Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:15:00.128 --> 01:15:02.093
<v ->Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:15:02.093 --> 01:15:03.933
<v Clerk>President Batjer.</v>

01:15:03.933 --> 01:15:04.766
<v ->President Batjer.</v>

01:15:04.766 --> 01:15:05.815
<v ->Aye.</v>

01:15:05.815 --> 01:15:06.648
Thank you.

01:15:08.394 --> 01:15:11.034
Item 33 has passed unanimously.

01:15:11.034 --> 01:15:13.730
That completes our regular agenda items.

01:15:13.730 --> 01:15:16.730
There is no report for item 34,

01:15:16.730 --> 01:15:19.920
report and discussion on recent consumer protections

01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:23.018
and discussion on recent consumer protections

01:15:23.018 --> 01:15:26.266
and safety activities management report.

01:15:26.266 --> 01:15:29.879
And there is no report on item 35,

01:15:29.879 --> 01:15:33.530
which is the management report on administrative activities.

01:15:33.530 --> 01:15:38.280
We are now at the Commissioner reports on the agenda,

01:15:38.280 --> 01:15:39.330
Commissioner reports.

01:15:46.245 --> 01:15:47.495
Mission reports?

01:15:47.495 --> 01:15:48.541
<v ->President Batjer.</v>

01:15:48.541 --> 01:15:49.374
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:15:50.458 --> 01:15:52.625
<v ->I have one announcement.</v>

01:15:55.175 --> 01:15:59.008
This is an announcement in of an IRP workshop.

01:16:00.170 --> 01:16:03.460
March 10th in the afternoon, from 2:00 to 4:30

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we'll be holding a workshop on the ALJ's ruling

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that was issued last month on midterm reliability analysis

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on midterm reliability analysis

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The ruling proposes requiring load serving entities

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to procure 700 megawatts

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procure 700 megawatts

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of new net qualifying capacity for 2024 to 2026.

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Now that's nameplate capacity is much harder than that.

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So it's a lot of new megawatts of clean energy.

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And the ruling asked the parties to weigh in

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These include revising our planning reserve margin,

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the amount of capacity that we propose over and above

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expected demand to cushion against unexpected events.

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The types of resources load serving entities should procure,

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which load serving entities should be responsible

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for that procurement, how cost allocation

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should be carried out among the different entities,

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among other issues.

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out among the different entities among other issues.

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So this is a workshop.

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This workshop is a very good opportunity

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for our staff to explain the proposal

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and the underlying data and analysis that went into it.

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of the comments that they will be filing later this month

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and early next month.

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this month and early next month.

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This is really where the rubber hits the road

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while strengthening electric reliability.

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So we encourage as many people as possible

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to join in the workshop.

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I wanna also extend my welcome to Commissioner Houck.

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I want to also extend my welcome to Commissioner Houck.

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We've already given her an internal welcome

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and President Batjer gave a very gracious introduction

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at the start, but we're delighted to have you back

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and to have you here working with us.

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And we very much look forward

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to your leadership and collaboration.

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<v ->Thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.</v>

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Who would like to go next?

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Okay, yes Commissioner Shiroma.

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<v ->Yes, thank you President Batjer.</v>

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I have a number of reports to share

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and I also want to welcome Commissioner Houck

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back to the desk and to returning back to the Commission.

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Look forward to working with you.

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So I wanted to take a moment to thank my advisor

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Terrence Schia for his time, working in my office

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and to congratulate him and his new role as a CPCU

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water division director.

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Terrence served in my office almost two years,

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helped me on water, telecommunications, transportation.

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Provided leadership on our Commission initiatives

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related to greater water affordability,

01:19:05.232 --> 01:19:07.929
bringing broadband to the lifeline program,

01:19:07.929 --> 01:19:09.945
intimating access to transportation

01:19:09.945 --> 01:19:12.179
for users of wheelchairs,

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greater deployment of autonomous vehicles.

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So I want to thank him for his contributions

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to team Shiroma.

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And I look forward to working with Terrance

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as the water division director.

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I also want to welcome Gerald Kelly to my office

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as an interim advisor.

01:19:29.400 --> 01:19:32.980
in the Administrative Law Judge division since 2015.

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in the administrative watch judge division since 2015.

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As the ALJ, he has worked on a wide spectrum of matters,

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including a right making across the industries,

01:19:45.539 --> 01:19:46.595
the enforcement transportation emergency preparedness

01:19:46.595 --> 01:19:48.595
and consumer protection.

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Gerald began his legal career as a deputy attorney general

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working on toes in implement litigation defense

01:19:57.766 --> 01:20:00.099
for the state of California.

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And he joined my team as an interim advisor on Monday.

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I also want to take a moment to reflect on our CPUC

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race on mars we hosted last week Wednesday

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and a companion white paper that was released

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by our energy division for comments

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which are due by March 19th.

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All the Commissioners along with the Commissioners

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from the California energy Commission,

01:20:26.328 --> 01:20:29.283
the Governors from the California

01:20:29.283 --> 01:20:32.077
independent system operator,

01:20:32.077 --> 01:20:36.336
Matt Baker from the natural resources agency

01:20:36.336 --> 01:20:39.049
and assemblyman Holder of central Queso attending this

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and working in a timely event.

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And he heard that we should expect rates to continue to rise

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over the next 10 years on constant living

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and that affordability is essential to California

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achieving its climate goals.

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The impact of the energy burden on California today

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is something we need to pay attention to,

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first providing for affordability

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and meeting those very important climate goals.

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We've heard ideas from utilities right here,

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advocates and academia on opportunities

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to reduce utility costs towards assessing our business

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as usual and garnering savings for taxpayers.

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I found it insightful to hear the research

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on how dollar spent on utility bills to fund things

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like wildfire mitigation also create jobs

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and economic benefits for California customers

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towards helping to lift households.

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But that we also need to be strategic

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to ensure that we are raising wages

01:21:42.422 --> 01:21:44.915
and appropriate workforce training is available

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to get people ready to participate

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in the next phase of our clean economy.

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And finally, we heard that while here here's the Commission,

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we are hard at work leveraging rate per dollars

01:21:57.734 --> 01:22:00.947
to fund wildfire mitigation, climate change initiatives

01:22:00.947 --> 01:22:04.368
and so forth through our general rate cases and proceedings,

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there may be opportunities to really think outside

01:22:07.801 --> 01:22:11.075
of the current box, look at restructuring rates

01:22:11.075 --> 01:22:13.491
and seek other funding sources as well.

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So it would be interesting to see the path forward

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that we take.

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I wanna thank the team for this effort.

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Alphonse Chang, David Bismore, Julia ND,

01:22:29.342 --> 01:22:33.214
Oncate Jane, Bridget Sharon Smith, Nathan Barsik,

01:22:33.214 --> 01:22:35.297
Elaine Sisi Libria, Nate.

01:22:37.297 --> 01:22:40.827
I'm sorry, Gene Spencer, Elizabeth Lapur,

01:22:40.827 --> 01:22:44.910
Christopher Wrestling, Paul Phillips, Sonny Baker

01:22:46.549 --> 01:22:50.760
Terry Fosper, Mary Claire Brown and the (indistinct).

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.903
Terry Prosper, Mary Claire Brown and the (indistinct).

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It's a team that covers a wide spectrum

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of energy across our CTC.

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Everything from breaks to transmission,

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in affordability and reaching our clean climate goals.

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in affordability and reaching are our clean climate goals.

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I also wanna highlight that we have a couple meetings

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coming up.

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quarterly meeting of the Universal Lifeline

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Telephone Service Trust Administrative Committee or ULTSTAC.

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telephone service trust administrative committee or ULTSTAC.

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It will be held next week, Wednesday on March 10th

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from 1:30 to 4:30 on WebEx, that committee advises us

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on the lifeline program.

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At the meeting, we'll be...

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Well, I'm not asking as official member for the charter.

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I have a Commissioner, that's a member

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but I am the sponsor of this committee.

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They will be voting on new board members

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and officers and receiving an update

01:24:04.249 --> 01:24:08.891
on the status of a boost mobile care pilot program.

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And the iFoster pilot that we voted out in 2019

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and hearing what they're doing connects with customers

01:24:15.516 --> 01:24:18.683
enrolled in our low-income NG programs

01:24:20.412 --> 01:24:21.852
and how those programs are doing

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in progress of its planning.

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Again, these are pilot programs.

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We do have a few vacancies on the committee.

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We need a few more members and alternate

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that needs to be dominated by other organizations

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We need some community-based organization members.

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Weed some community-based organization members.

01:24:44.054 --> 01:24:47.304
We need some consumer advocate members.

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And so I'm intending to work with the committee

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towards filling those vacancies.

01:24:54.313 --> 01:24:58.063
They are appointed by our executive director.

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So anyone who is interested to take a look at our website

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and also our daily calendar gets for the details

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in the meeting.

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And then the next day on March 11th,

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the low income oversight board meeting

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is holding its first quarterly meeting of 2021.

01:25:16.445 --> 01:25:20.528
The board advises Commission on low income energy

01:25:21.381 --> 01:25:23.432
and water issues and programs and served as a liaison

01:25:23.432 --> 01:25:25.411
to our low income communities.

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And the focus of this courting meeting

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is to hear the energy and water utilities

01:25:34.425 --> 01:25:36.234
on their transition plans in anticipation of a moratorium

01:25:36.234 --> 01:25:38.167
for emergency consumer protections

01:25:38.167 --> 01:25:40.173
that are expiring on June 30th.

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It hurts my comments today saying April 1st,

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but actually June 30th.

01:25:45.235 --> 01:25:48.540
and 48/49 and we voted out at our January voting meeting

01:25:48.540 --> 01:25:53.540
to extend the moratorium and to provide very clear guidance

01:25:54.822 --> 01:25:58.096
to extend the Moratorium and to provide very clear guidance

01:25:58.096 --> 01:26:00.967
to the utilities on how to prepare.

01:26:00.967 --> 01:26:03.367
I understand that all the Commissioners planted 10

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to hear those presentations, which will be in the morning.

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Again, the meeting starts at 9:00 a.m.

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And that should be a good insight

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to how utilities are planning.

01:26:18.175 --> 01:26:19.008
The goal again, is to assure that the customers

01:26:22.218 --> 01:26:25.699
who are experiencing urges and experiencing problems

01:26:25.699 --> 01:26:29.019
and being able to pay the utility bill to guide them

01:26:29.019 --> 01:26:33.498
on what happened when the Moratorium is rested

01:26:33.498 --> 01:26:36.368
and how the utilities will be working with those customers

01:26:36.368 --> 01:26:38.868
on payment plans and so forth.

01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.690
They are on the LIOB website.

01:26:43.690 --> 01:26:48.690
They are on the LAOB website.

01:26:49.162 --> 01:26:53.331
through the venue of the lower income oversight board

01:26:53.331 --> 01:26:57.331
through the venue of the Rowan's oversight board

01:26:58.519 --> 01:27:00.659
and then provide their finalized and replies responses

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by April 1st.

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I'm sorry, there are comments due by...

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Let me look at this again.

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Okay, they have to file their arise plan cycle first

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and responses and the process are due April 21st.

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All of this information is on our website.

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So I just wanna thank a little and some oversight board

01:27:25.335 --> 01:27:29.835
for providing the venue for hearing about these plans.

01:27:30.890 --> 01:27:35.142
And again, more can be seen at the CTC website,

01:27:35.142 --> 01:27:37.392
NFC LIOB website, liob.org.

01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.677
our very own President Batjer on her recent appointment

01:27:42.989 --> 01:27:45.840
our very own President Batjeron her recent appointment

01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.840
to the executive board of a National Association

01:27:53.452 --> 01:27:57.027
of Regulatory Utility Commissioners or NARUC.

01:27:57.027 --> 01:27:59.283
NARUC is a nationwide organization

01:27:59.283 --> 01:28:01.030
and best practices towards improving the quality

01:28:02.714 --> 01:28:06.768
and best processes towards improving the quality

01:28:06.768 --> 01:28:10.685
and effectiveness of public utility regulation.

01:28:12.230 --> 01:28:17.230
Commissioners from all of the 50 states and territories

01:28:17.344 --> 01:28:19.696
and water, communications.

01:28:19.696 --> 01:28:21.779
and water communications.

01:28:25.367 --> 01:28:27.760
Each of us serve on various NARUC committees.

01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:30.195
And with president Badtjer's appointment

01:28:30.195 --> 01:28:33.869
to the governing board, this will provide

01:28:33.869 --> 01:28:37.093
an even greater opportunity to ensure that lessons learned

01:28:37.093 --> 01:28:41.365
and innovation arising from our California work

01:28:41.365 --> 01:28:43.910
But congratulations President Batjer.

01:28:43.910 --> 01:28:46.993
But congratulations President Badger.

01:28:51.112 --> 01:28:52.112
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:28:53.981 --> 01:28:54.814
<v ->Okay, yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:28:54.814 --> 01:28:55.814
<v ->Thank you.</v>

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And yes, congratulations.

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You needed another governing body to be a part of.

01:29:04.218 --> 01:29:07.530
I'm very glad that you have accepted that role.

01:29:07.530 --> 01:29:11.117
I really do think it's gonna lead to much more

01:29:11.117 --> 01:29:12.867
of a California policy influence discussion

01:29:12.867 --> 01:29:14.752
at the national level.

01:29:14.752 --> 01:29:18.064
And I did wanna acknowledge also Commissioner Shiroma

01:29:18.064 --> 01:29:21.578
I, and I did wanna acknowledge also Commissioner Shiroma

01:29:21.578 --> 01:29:23.995
and just the tremendous boost

01:29:25.347 --> 01:29:28.669
that you have given to these public advisory bodies.

01:29:28.669 --> 01:29:31.994
It's really tremendous and how you succeeded

01:29:31.994 --> 01:29:35.343
in integrating them into our direct policymaking,

01:29:35.343 --> 01:29:37.931
most evidently with these transition plans

01:29:37.931 --> 01:29:40.657
that will be presented at the LIOB.

01:29:40.657 --> 01:29:44.280
So thank you for that and thank you for your consciousness

01:29:44.280 --> 01:29:46.981
and intention in ensuring that there's community

01:29:46.981 --> 01:29:50.814
representation on these bodies in particularly

01:29:52.353 --> 01:29:55.770
some of the lifeline advisory committees.

01:29:57.115 --> 01:30:00.534
I also wanted to acknowledge Commissioner Rechtschaffen

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in your workshop on the IRP and just the utter importance

01:30:04.987 --> 01:30:08.840
and timeliness of that forthcoming decisions.

01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:10.818
I did wanna share that I also am looking forward

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to that workshop.

01:30:14.229 --> 01:30:16.530
And in particular would like as you evolve

01:30:16.530 --> 01:30:20.169
in your consideration of all the input,

01:30:20.169 --> 01:30:24.033
that we really take into account Aliso

01:30:24.033 --> 01:30:27.945
and all the scenarios that we're looking at with Aliso,

01:30:27.945 --> 01:30:32.012
really the ability to replace some of the gas generation

01:30:32.012 --> 01:30:34.677
with a non gas dependent generation in the LA basin

01:30:34.677 --> 01:30:36.844
is a very timely priority.

01:30:39.212 --> 01:30:41.551
And I hope you consider frankly augmenting

01:30:41.551 --> 01:30:43.916
what you're looking at now to accommodate

01:30:43.916 --> 01:30:44.749
in any of the scenarios that we're currently deliberating

01:30:46.857 --> 01:30:47.690
on Aliso.

01:30:49.472 --> 01:30:53.516
And in addition, I also wanted to announce

01:30:53.516 --> 01:30:56.915
as you mentioned the CASF program that Commissioner Houck

01:30:56.915 --> 01:30:58.160
as you mentioned the CASF program that Commissioner Houck

01:31:00.263 --> 01:31:02.520
will now be leading up does have a mandated annual workshop.

01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:05.960
And we will be holding this one March 30th

01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.546
from 10:00 to 1:00 p.m. and very excited to announce

01:31:08.546 --> 01:31:13.490
that STC, interim chair, woman Jessica Rosenworcel

01:31:13.490 --> 01:31:15.970
has accepted our invitation to participate

01:31:17.823 --> 01:31:19.930
and we also, yes, very excited about that.

01:31:19.930 --> 01:31:23.035
She would like to have a fireside chat,

01:31:23.035 --> 01:31:25.630
so expect a really good dialogue with her.

01:31:25.630 --> 01:31:30.630
And also the legislative leadership Senator Gonzalez

01:31:30.890 --> 01:31:33.750
and hopefully concerning student Aggie Curry

01:31:33.750 --> 01:31:35.970
who both in the leaders on the CSS

01:31:37.063 --> 01:31:41.330
So hopefully you can put that on your calendars,

01:31:41.330 --> 01:31:44.280
March 30th 10:00 to 1:00.

01:31:44.280 --> 01:31:48.370
In addition, as you know in our adoption

01:31:48.370 --> 01:31:51.840
of the tribal land policy guidelines

01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.480
and we committed to doing in that resolution

01:31:55.480 --> 01:31:57.840
and implementation workshop

01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:59.360
and also just to hold

01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:01.740
on your calendars, that will be April 14th

01:32:02.780 --> 01:32:04.623
for all of you interested in that

01:32:04.623 --> 01:32:07.168
More details to come.

01:32:07.168 --> 01:32:09.970
And I wasn't going to mention so early

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the incarcerated people workshop

01:32:12.218 --> 01:32:13.980
And since the public didn't mention it,

01:32:13.980 --> 01:32:16.320
as you know we are working really

01:32:16.320 --> 01:32:18.977
as unique circumstance here.

01:32:18.977 --> 01:32:19.810
as unique circumstance here.

01:32:19.810 --> 01:32:21.440
And as you heard from the public today,

01:32:21.440 --> 01:32:23.780
there was an interest in seeing if there's a way for us

01:32:23.780 --> 01:32:26.440
to hear directly from the incarcerated people.

01:32:26.440 --> 01:32:28.690
We'll see if we meet that challenge.

01:32:28.690 --> 01:32:32.680
For sure, we hope to obviously have friends and family

01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:36.540
as an advocates as we have been engaged with them.

01:32:36.540 --> 01:32:40.590
But that will be a new frontier for us on public engagement.

01:32:40.590 --> 01:32:43.550
So open to any ideas on that front,

01:32:43.550 --> 01:32:46.040
but we will be obviously Commissioner Shiroma

01:32:46.040 --> 01:32:50.460
and myself working together on seeing how much

01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:51.990
of that engagement we can get.

01:32:51.990 --> 01:32:54.720
So that will be a later age in April,

01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:59.720
April 28th and 29th, but more to come on details for that.

01:32:59.940 --> 01:33:00.773
Thank you.

01:33:01.770 --> 01:33:03.770
<v ->Thank you, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.</v>

01:33:04.910 --> 01:33:07.240
Commissioner Houck, did you have some comments

01:33:07.240 --> 01:33:09.350
you'd like to make today.

01:33:09.350 --> 01:33:11.930
<v ->Yes, thank you President Batjer.</v>

01:33:11.930 --> 01:33:13.860
I would like to, again, just thank everyone

01:33:13.860 --> 01:33:15.670
for welcoming me back to the Commission

01:33:15.670 --> 01:33:19.060
and helping me get acclimated to my new role.

01:33:19.060 --> 01:33:22.687
I'd like to first think you again, President Batjer

01:33:22.687 --> 01:33:25.600
and your staff, and also congratulate you

01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:26.993
on the NARUC appointment.

01:33:27.900 --> 01:33:30.770
Thank Commissioner Guzman Aceves, Commissioner Rechtschaffen

01:33:30.770 --> 01:33:33.690
and Commissioner Shiroma, the office of the Commission,

01:33:33.690 --> 01:33:36.570
our executive director, Rachel Peterson and her staff,

01:33:36.570 --> 01:33:38.630
particularly Douglas Wilson.

01:33:38.630 --> 01:33:42.320
And my transition team who I'll introduce in just a moment.

01:33:42.320 --> 01:33:44.740
I also wanted to thank the Commission's IT

01:33:44.740 --> 01:33:46.800
and HR departments for assisting me

01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.430
in getting everything set up and with all the paperwork.

01:33:50.430 --> 01:33:52.720
As many of you know, I'm not new to the Commission,

01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:56.090
I'm really excited to be back and working with everyone.

01:33:56.090 --> 01:33:58.990
Prior to my return, again as was mentioned earlier,

01:33:58.990 --> 01:34:01.570
I was chief counsel of the California Energy Commission

01:34:01.570 --> 01:34:05.393
and I wanted to also say thank you to chair Hawkshield

01:34:05.393 --> 01:34:07.970
and all the Commissioners at the energy Commission,

01:34:07.970 --> 01:34:10.647
Drew Bowen, the executive director and my former team

01:34:10.647 --> 01:34:13.790
and the chief counsel's office for the opportunity

01:34:13.790 --> 01:34:16.170
to serve as their chief counsel and all of the support

01:34:16.170 --> 01:34:18.540
everyone at the energy Commission provided to me

01:34:18.540 --> 01:34:19.670
during my transition

01:34:19.670 --> 01:34:22.540
back to the public utilities Commission.

01:34:22.540 --> 01:34:26.450
And I would now like to introduce my transition team.

01:34:26.450 --> 01:34:30.520
First is Christine Powell, who is my interim chief of staff

01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:32.640
and has just absolutely been amazing.

01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:35.440
She's so organized and on top of everything.

01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:40.440
I just appreciate her more than I can say.

01:34:40.470 --> 01:34:42.970
Christine joined the Commission in 2018

01:34:42.970 --> 01:34:44.150
and most recently served

01:34:44.150 --> 01:34:46.950
as former Commissioner Randolph chief of staff.

01:34:46.950 --> 01:34:50.260
Prior to that, she served as an ALJ here at the PUC

01:34:50.260 --> 01:34:52.960
and as an attorney at the office of the general counsel

01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:53.930
at FERC.

01:34:53.930 --> 01:34:55.740
She also worked as a public accountant

01:34:55.740 --> 01:34:58.290
for Price water house Coopers and an international

01:34:58.290 --> 01:35:00.730
internal auditor for Abbott laboratories.

01:35:00.730 --> 01:35:04.240
She holds a JD from Santa Clara University School of Law

01:35:04.240 --> 01:35:07.500
and a BBA and accountancy from Howard University.

01:35:07.500 --> 01:35:10.270
Again, Christine is just absolutely amazing

01:35:10.270 --> 01:35:14.190
and I just can't thank her enough for everything she's done

01:35:14.190 --> 01:35:15.240
since I've been here.

01:35:16.230 --> 01:35:18.410
Next is Mary Claire Brown who's serving

01:35:18.410 --> 01:35:21.390
as one of my interim energy policy advisors.

01:35:21.390 --> 01:35:25.530
Mary Claire joined the PUC in 2014 and previously served

01:35:25.530 --> 01:35:28.840
as an energy advisor to Commissioner Shiroma for two years

01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:32.400
focusing on rate design and low-income assistance programs.

01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:35.270
She also served as an analyst in energy division

01:35:35.270 --> 01:35:37.670
on behind the meter energy storage incentives

01:35:37.670 --> 01:35:41.160
rule 21 interconnection and demand response.

01:35:41.160 --> 01:35:43.860
And as an advisor to the executive director.

01:35:43.860 --> 01:35:46.700
Mary Clara holds a master's degree in public policy

01:35:46.700 --> 01:35:49.080
from the university of California at Berkeley,

01:35:49.080 --> 01:35:52.320
Goldman School of Public Policy and an undergraduate degree

01:35:52.320 --> 01:35:55.173
in mathematics and physics from Middlebury.

01:35:55.173 --> 01:36:00.173
And Mary Claire has also just been great support for me

01:36:01.843 --> 01:36:03.060
in the last week.

01:36:03.060 --> 01:36:06.490
Next to Suzanne Kasasa, who will serve as my interim legal

01:36:06.490 --> 01:36:08.000
and energy advisor.

01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:11.650
Suzanne joined the PUC in 2015 and previously served

01:36:11.650 --> 01:36:14.540
as a legal and policy advisor for Commissioner Randolph

01:36:14.540 --> 01:36:17.000
and as an analyst in the energy division

01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:18.560
in her role as an advisor.

01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:20.900
Suzanne focused on energy issues

01:36:20.900 --> 01:36:23.020
including integrated resource planning,

01:36:23.020 --> 01:36:25.620
electricity procurement, climate adaption,

01:36:25.620 --> 01:36:28.850
general rate cases, COVID impacts to customers,

01:36:28.850 --> 01:36:32.460
gas policy and community choice aggregator initiative.

01:36:32.460 --> 01:36:35.289
Suzanne holds a JD from the University of California

01:36:35.289 --> 01:36:36.497
and a BA from the University of California Irvine.

01:36:36.497 --> 01:36:40.060
and a BA from the university of California Irvine.

01:36:40.060 --> 01:36:43.920
And she has set up a number of briefings for me

01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:45.270
that have just been really helpful.

01:36:45.270 --> 01:36:49.140
And I appreciate all of Suzanne's work.

01:36:49.140 --> 01:36:51.850
Next is Eileen Odell who will serve as my intern

01:36:51.850 --> 01:36:54.363
water and telecommunications advisor.

01:36:55.270 --> 01:36:59.130
Eileen joined the PUC public advocate's office in 2014

01:36:59.130 --> 01:37:01.090
And has since served as a public utilities

01:37:01.090 --> 01:37:03.390
regulatory analyst in the communications

01:37:03.390 --> 01:37:05.170
and water policy branch.

01:37:05.170 --> 01:37:08.120
Eileen has worked on telecommunications and water,

01:37:08.120 --> 01:37:11.370
utility general rate cases and mergers and acquisitions

01:37:11.370 --> 01:37:14.200
focusing on revenues, rate design and the impacts

01:37:18.970 --> 01:37:21.846
Eileen holds a JD from the University of California Hastings

01:37:21.846 --> 01:37:22.720
Eileen holds a JD from the university of California Hastings

01:37:25.405 --> 01:37:27.821
from the University of California, San Diego.

01:37:27.821 --> 01:37:28.654
from the university of California, San Diego.

01:37:28.654 --> 01:37:30.640
And she is working to help me get up to speed

01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:33.420
on the CASF proceeding that was mentioned earlier

01:37:33.420 --> 01:37:35.187
by Commissioner Guzman Aceves.

01:37:36.090 --> 01:37:38.910
Sarah Thomas will serve as my interim legal

01:37:38.910 --> 01:37:41.790
transportation and safety policy advisor.

01:37:41.790 --> 01:37:46.790
Sarah joined the PUC in 1999, and served as a lawyer

01:37:46.830 --> 01:37:49.840
in the legal division and ALJ and a legal advisor

01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:51.690
for Commissioner Mark Barron.

01:37:51.690 --> 01:37:54.120
She has deep experience in wildfire mitigation,

01:37:54.120 --> 01:37:56.700
climate adaption, greenhouse gas reduction,

01:37:56.700 --> 01:38:00.230
the renewable portfolio standard, storage and solar energy,

01:38:00.230 --> 01:38:03.680
electric vehicles and transportation electrification.

01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:08.680
Among many other areas, Sarah's knowledge is invaluable.

01:38:09.360 --> 01:38:11.350
She's worked on telecommunications

01:38:11.350 --> 01:38:14.483
also early in her (indistinct) during her time,

01:38:15.488 --> 01:38:18.090
early on as a Commission and she holds undergraduate

01:38:18.090 --> 01:38:21.430
and law degrees from the University of California Berkeley.

01:38:21.430 --> 01:38:23.660
And finally, I wanna recognize the support

01:38:23.660 --> 01:38:26.540
provided by Elena Venus and Daisy Yi

01:38:26.540 --> 01:38:30.660
who have graciously provided intern support for my office

01:38:30.660 --> 01:38:32.240
while meeting the responsibilities

01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:34.580
of their current assigned offices.

01:38:34.580 --> 01:38:37.860
So Christine, Mary, Claire, Suzanne, Eileen, Sarah, Elena

01:38:37.860 --> 01:38:40.540
and Daisy have all provided exceptional support

01:38:40.540 --> 01:38:41.510
since I've arrived.

01:38:41.510 --> 01:38:44.087
And I'm very lucky to have such a great intern team

01:38:44.087 --> 01:38:46.390
and appreciate all of them.

01:38:46.390 --> 01:38:49.540
And just in closing, I wanted to just comment

01:38:49.540 --> 01:38:52.020
that my first week back I was able to participate

01:38:52.020 --> 01:38:54.151
in the PUC rates and cost on bonk.

01:38:54.151 --> 01:38:57.043
And I was very impressed with the event,

01:38:57.980 --> 01:39:00.700
which included presentations from IOUs, staff

01:39:00.700 --> 01:39:02.300
and other stakeholders on a number

01:39:02.300 --> 01:39:05.100
of critical subject matters before the Commission.

01:39:05.100 --> 01:39:06.760
I wanna thank everyone who prepared

01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:09.760
the informative white paper and participated in that event

01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.180
particularly Commissioner Shiroma's office

01:39:13.270 --> 01:39:15.510
who was instrumental in putting this together.

01:39:15.510 --> 01:39:18.600
Mary Claire Brown, who emceed the event at Randolph

01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:22.270
and his team for the excellent work that they did

01:39:22.270 --> 01:39:24.360
and all of the presenters during the workshop.

01:39:24.360 --> 01:39:27.890
This was a really great way to start my term

01:39:27.890 --> 01:39:29.400
as a Commissioner.

01:39:29.400 --> 01:39:30.760
And I appreciated getting all of that information

01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:32.720
so early on, and with that

01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:34.130
I will conclude my report.

01:39:34.130 --> 01:39:34.963
So thank you.

01:39:37.830 --> 01:39:39.450
<v ->Thank you, Commissioner Houckin.</v>

01:39:39.450 --> 01:39:41.160
Again, we welcome you.

01:39:41.160 --> 01:39:44.900
This is terrific and you do have an all-star team.

01:39:44.900 --> 01:39:46.530
Very impressive.

01:39:46.530 --> 01:39:49.656
So that's terrific.

01:39:49.656 --> 01:39:53.544
I have a number of items to report on the day.

01:39:53.544 --> 01:39:56.341
and I'm sure you all join me in this,

01:39:56.341 --> 01:39:58.600
and I'm sure you all join me in thi,

01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:00.820
of our staff who planned our interim

01:40:00.820 --> 01:40:02.730
black history month events.

01:40:02.730 --> 01:40:04.890
We were able to have insightful discussions

01:40:04.890 --> 01:40:07.590
with a number of California's African-American leaders

01:40:07.590 --> 01:40:09.080
and educators.

01:40:09.080 --> 01:40:12.130
Thank you to the African American coalition for sponsoring

01:40:12.130 --> 01:40:15.349
and thank you to the members of the planning committee

01:40:15.349 --> 01:40:19.667
Janine Long Mona D Gostova, Savan Martin,

01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:28.920
Janine Long Mona D (indistinct) Savan Martin,

01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:35.000
Pasha Thompson, Patricia Miles, Deseret Lamar,

01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.983
Nicole Cropper and my advisor am Nico Michelle.

01:40:41.120 --> 01:40:44.750
I would like also to echo the comments

01:40:44.750 --> 01:40:47.260
of Commissioner Shiroma and Commissioner Houk

01:40:47.260 --> 01:40:51.650
on the on-body and particularly say Commissioner Shiroma

01:40:51.650 --> 01:40:52.623
and her staff.

01:40:55.252 --> 01:40:57.450
I express my enormous gratitude to everyone

01:40:57.450 --> 01:41:00.560
who helped to put together such a well-organized

01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:01.950
and thought provoking event

01:41:01.950 --> 01:41:04.220
as my fellow Commissioners have said.

01:41:04.220 --> 01:41:07.120
The on vamp and the white paper, both emphasized

01:41:07.120 --> 01:41:10.560
our agency's collective mandate to ensure Californians

01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.980
are served by the reliable electric grid,

01:41:13.980 --> 01:41:16.260
a reliable electric grid.

01:41:16.260 --> 01:41:19.160
And that over time it is decarbonized

01:41:19.160 --> 01:41:22.310
at a rate needed to reach our clean energy goals.

01:41:22.310 --> 01:41:25.800
And at a cost that Californians can afford.

01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:27.970
As discussed at the on vamp, the CPUC

01:41:27.970 --> 01:41:31.270
is working to implement policies to mitigate climate change

01:41:31.270 --> 01:41:34.340
at an affordable cost while we are also in the midst

01:41:34.340 --> 01:41:37.430
of experiencing and adapting to the effects

01:41:37.430 --> 01:41:38.593
of climate change.

01:41:39.820 --> 01:41:42.370
Last month, the country experienced

01:41:42.370 --> 01:41:45.650
yet another extreme weather related disaster.

01:41:45.650 --> 01:41:47.410
Our thoughts continue to be with those

01:41:47.410 --> 01:41:50.210
who endured the impacts and suffered personal loss

01:41:50.210 --> 01:41:51.760
due to the blackouts.

01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:55.290
As a situation in Texas and the experience

01:41:55.290 --> 01:41:58.400
here in California last summer have shown us

01:41:58.400 --> 01:42:01.230
we must prepare the grid for more frequent

01:42:01.230 --> 01:42:03.470
and extreme weather events.

01:42:03.470 --> 01:42:06.970
A changing climate means that the level of reliability

01:42:06.970 --> 01:42:10.140
that we require of the power system will likely come

01:42:10.140 --> 01:42:14.560
an increasingly higher costs, which will be one more factor

01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:17.423
putting upward pressure on our rates.

01:42:18.260 --> 01:42:22.670
The question the on and the white paper articulated so well

01:42:22.670 --> 01:42:25.220
is how do we as a state continue

01:42:25.220 --> 01:42:27.600
with our essential de-carbonization work

01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:31.130
while ensuring that the communities who are more sensitive

01:42:31.130 --> 01:42:33.913
to rate increases are not unduly burdened.

01:42:35.150 --> 01:42:38.960
I'm very much looking forward to continuing the conversation

01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:41.360
and exploring additional ways that the CPUC

01:42:41.360 --> 01:42:45.103
can promote more equitable outcomes in our decision-making.

01:42:46.230 --> 01:42:48.840
Thank you again, Commissioner Shiroma and your staff

01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:52.010
and the energy division for your tireless work

01:42:52.010 --> 01:42:54.760
steering us in the right direction.

01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:56.200
Well done.

01:42:56.200 --> 01:42:58.710
And finally, I have a couple of staffing updates

01:42:58.710 --> 01:43:00.080
to provide today.

01:43:00.080 --> 01:43:02.650
First, I wanted to share that my energy advisor

01:43:02.650 --> 01:43:06.610
Dave Peck has a wonderful opportunity to lead a team

01:43:06.610 --> 01:43:09.040
in the Commission's public advocate's office

01:43:09.040 --> 01:43:11.840
and will be joining that office this month.

01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:14.860
I wanted to thank Dave so much for his service.

01:43:14.860 --> 01:43:17.480
Dave was such a tremendous help to me

01:43:17.480 --> 01:43:19.410
when I first joined the Commission.

01:43:19.410 --> 01:43:23.190
Helped me get up to speed, he kept me up on a pace of things

01:43:23.190 --> 01:43:25.210
and he has truly been a steady hand

01:43:25.210 --> 01:43:27.040
and a calm and warm presence.

01:43:27.040 --> 01:43:31.360
I very much have appreciated his insight and his understated

01:43:31.360 --> 01:43:33.110
and right sense of humor.

01:43:33.110 --> 01:43:35.910
Dave, you will be missed and I'm excited for you

01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:40.317
as you open up your next chapter at the PUC.

01:43:41.450 --> 01:43:44.420
On a related note I am very pleased to announce

01:43:44.420 --> 01:43:47.180
that Nora Hawkins is joining our office

01:43:47.180 --> 01:43:49.290
as an energy policy advisor.

01:43:49.290 --> 01:43:53.067
Nora joined the Commission in 2018 and previously worked

01:43:53.067 --> 01:43:57.090
in the Commissions energy division on customer sited

01:43:57.090 --> 01:43:59.980
renewable energy and storage programs.

01:43:59.980 --> 01:44:02.080
Before joining the Commission nor worked

01:44:03.098 --> 01:44:08.098
for the Washington DC, in Washington DC, excuse me

01:44:08.590 --> 01:44:11.340
on the income qualified solar programs

01:44:11.340 --> 01:44:14.640
and at the U.S. office of management and budget

01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:17.760
on the federal clean energy R and D policies.

01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:20.730
She received a master's of environmental management

01:44:20.730 --> 01:44:24.300
from a Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies

01:44:24.300 --> 01:44:28.170
and a bachelor of arts degree from Whitman College.

01:44:28.170 --> 01:44:31.070
I am so pleased to have Nora join our team.

01:44:31.070 --> 01:44:33.383
And so welcome, Nora, thank you so much.

01:44:34.529 --> 01:44:36.740
And I also want to thank my fellow Commissioners

01:44:36.740 --> 01:44:41.740
for your kind remarks of me being appointed

01:44:41.850 --> 01:44:46.850
nominated to the NARUC executive board.

01:44:47.460 --> 01:44:50.260
I'm just gonna say it's gonna take a village guys.

01:44:50.260 --> 01:44:51.983
I'm gonna depend on all of you.

01:44:53.510 --> 01:44:58.360
I do appreciate Commissioner Guzman Aceves' comment

01:44:58.360 --> 01:45:02.480
about one more assignment, but I do welcome it.

01:45:02.480 --> 01:45:05.470
We have not been represented on the executive board

01:45:05.470 --> 01:45:08.650
since Commissioner Carla Peterman left the Commission.

01:45:08.650 --> 01:45:12.520
So this is a welcome opportunity for us.

01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:14.950
And so I thank you for your comments,

01:45:14.950 --> 01:45:17.243
but I said it's gonna depend on y'all.

01:45:18.500 --> 01:45:21.523
So with that, that's an issue.

01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:26.230
Our Commission reports and this public meeting

01:45:26.230 --> 01:45:27.310
is now adjourned.

01:45:27.310 --> 01:45:28.840
Thank you all.

01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:31.370
So we need to be logging off and moving on

01:45:31.370 --> 01:45:33.080
to our next agenda.

01:45:33.080 --> 01:45:33.913
Thank you.