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Welcome to the California
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Public Utilities Commission
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on this date, Thursday,
February 11th, 2021.
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Today's call is being recorded.
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If you have any objections,
you may disconnect at this time.
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President Batjer, you may begin.
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Thank you, Holly.
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Good morning, everyone.
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We need to establish a quorum,
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so will the agenda
clerk please call the roll.
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Commissioner Shiroma?
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Present.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
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Present.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
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I'm here.
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President Batjer?
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Here.
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So thank you, we have
established a quorum.
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Welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I am calling this meeting
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of February 11th, 2021, public
agenda number 34-79 to order.
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Due to the Coronavirus pandemic
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and the shelter in place order,
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we are conducting
today's business online
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and via remote participation.
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The meeting is live stream
on the CPUC's website.
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We do have a Spanish
translator available
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for today's meeting.
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We will now give instructions on calling
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into the Spanish line and
making public comments.
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We will pause for that interpretation.
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(woman speaks in foreign language)
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Thank you.
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Before we commence with public comments
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I would like to share the
great news that on Tuesday,
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Governor Newsome appointed Darcy Hoag
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as Commissioner to the CPUC.
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Many at the Commission worked with Darcy
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when she served as an
Administrative Law Judge here
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from 2016 through 2019.
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Most recently, she
served as Chief Counsel
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at the California Energy Commission.
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Before joining the CPUC,
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Darcy represented Native American tribes
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throughout the country
on matters involving energy,
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natural resources, land
plains, taxation, water rights,
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international human rights,
and self-determination matters.
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Darcy is a member of the
Mohawk and Ottawa native tribes.
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Darcy has also served at
the CEC as Staff Counsel
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and as an Advisor to former
CEC Vice Chair, James Boyd.
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She is a graduate of the
University of California, Davis,
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School of Law.
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We very much look forward
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to Darcy joining the Commission
and to working with her
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to ensure customers
continue to receive clean, safe,
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and reliable and
affordable utility services.
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So welcome Darcy, we're thrilled.
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On February 3rd, Governor Newsome issued
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a proclamation declaring February
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as black history month.
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In this, in his proclamation,
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he recognized that when
Carter G. Woodson first
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proposed declaring
February black history month,
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he sought to rightfully
censored the efforts
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of American African-Americans
in our national narrative.
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We continue in that effort today.
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We have seen the nationwide movement
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to incorporate
African-American perspectives
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in everything from images
and marketing campaigns,
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to representation in
political institutions.
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Our nation is also becoming more aware
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of the countless contributions
to upholding our democracy.
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This year, Governor Newsome
honors these contributions
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while also highlighting
continuous efforts
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to disenfranchise black voters.
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The state's theme for black
history month this year is,
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"African-Americans and the
Vote," and marks 150 years
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since the 15th amendment was ratified,
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and a hundred years
since the 19th amendment,
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finally, giving all
African-Americans a right to vote.
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We are lucky to have
leaders from the departed
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John Lewis, who marched from
Selma, Alabama to Montgomery,
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to advocate for the right to
vote in 1965 to Stacy Abrams,
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who last month received
nationwide recognition
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for her gallant effort
to register over a million
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African-Americans to vote in Georgia.
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These and many others
have worked tirelessly
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to ensure equity in our voting process.
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I am pleased to say that
California is also extremely lucky
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to have an African-American leader
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at the helm of our state
institution, responsible
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for ensuring accessible
and transparent elections.
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Dr. Shirley Weber was sworn in a week
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and a half ago as the
first ever African-American
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to serve as Secretary of
State of the State of California.
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This is a, just a glimpse
of the countless ways
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African-Americans
have continued to fight, to
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create a state indeed, a
nation, that is equitable for all
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despite the lack of
recognition they deserve.
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In celebration, the Commission
has scheduled a number
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of internal events to highlight
African-American heritage
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and contributions.
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We have already heard
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about the history of
traditional African food
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and how it has been adapted
into, into American cuisine.
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And we look forward
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to hearing from speakers
throughout the month.
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We'll touch on subjects ranging
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from the state's educational system,
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the sociological impacts of racism.
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I would like to remind us that
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while we celebrate this month,
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we must continue to acknowledge arms
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and continue to do the work every day
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to increase equity in our jobs
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in our decision-making processes
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in every facet of our lives.
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I would also like to
recognize that Friday,
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February 12th, marks the
beginning of the lunar new year,
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which is often associated
with the Chinese New Year
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for the spring festival.
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2021 is the year of the ox.
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I recognize that for many
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these celebrations
will look a little different
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due to the pandemic,
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but I do wish you all good health.
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In the fight against
COVID-19, California
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is now administering vaccines
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at the community
vaccine vaccination sites,
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doctor's office, clinics,
and some pharmacies.
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At this time, healthcare
workers and individuals
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who are 65 and older near
San Francisco, Los Angeles,
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or San Diego counties, can
book appointments immediately
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through https://myturnca.gov/site
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or by calling (833) 422-4255.
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Online appointment scheduling
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for other groups and residents
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of other counties
will be available soon.
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Appointments are also
available in Spanish through
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the myturn.ca.gov site or
by calling (833) 422-4255.
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I encourage everyone in those categories
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to please get your
vaccinations as soon as possible.
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Okay, we will now
turn to public comment.
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If you wish to make a public comment
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and you have already dialed
in to the public comment
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telephone line, please
press star one to get
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into the public comment too.
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DPUC rules do not allow parties
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in proceedings to speak
about open proceedings.
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The public can make
comments addressing items
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on the consent and regular agenda,
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and including items
not on today's agenda.
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Please note that there
will not be public comment
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on item 20 and on item 45,
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and on all items on the
closed session agenda.
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You will have two minutes
to speak, two minutes.
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You'll hear a bell sound
when your time is up.
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Again, you will hear a bell
sound when your time is up.
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Please be mindful of
other speakers in the queue
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and please keep to your
allotted time of two minutes.
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With that guidance in mind,
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I welcome today's speakers.
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I will now turn back
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to the operator to open
the public comment
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telephone line, operator?
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Thank you.
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The public comment
telephone line is now open.
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Our first speaker is Barbara Stevins.
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You may go ahead.
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My name
is Barbara Stevins,
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I'm with the California
Alliance for Community Energy,
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but today I am speaking to
you as a California rate payer.
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You must reject additional
resource adequacy purchases
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by the IOUs today, or be
guilty of enabling the theft
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of billions of dollars from
the people of California.
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I have seen CISO's own data.
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So you all must have
seen that data as well
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clearly showing that
California's energy supply
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was always adequate to meet the needs
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during that historic heatwave,
were at not to the fact
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that power out of state
exports were increasing right
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as the need in California
was ramping up.
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There were also suspicious,
sequential, unscheduled
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shutdowns of different
in-state gas-fired power plants
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all happening just prior
to the predictable increase
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in energy demand.
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I'm old enough to
remember the Enron scandal
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and the fierce public
anger that resulted.
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The data I just cited is
getting out to the public
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thanks to organizations
like the one I work with.
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What do you think the people
of California are going to
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do when they realize this
scam that has cost them so much
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for unnecessary power that was enabled
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by the very people
charged with protecting them.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Miss Stevins.
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The next caller, please.
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Our next
caller is Lucia Marquez.
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You may go ahead.
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Hello, my name is Lucia
Marquez and I am speaking
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on the IRP and Emergency
Reliability Proceeding.
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Me and my family have lived
in Ventura County all my life
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where my sister has actually been
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a long time resident in Oxnard.
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Growing up in the central coast,
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you can clearly see
that cities like Ventura
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and Santa Barbara are
considered the exclusive zones
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where the beaches
are open to the public,
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lots of open space where
people can step outside
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of their homes and
not have to think twice
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about air pollution.
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But then you have
communities like Oxnard who
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have systemically become
the sacrifice zone of our region.
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Oxnard is the home of a
HALACO Superfund site,
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big ag that uses hundreds of thousands
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of pounds of pesticides a
year polluting our drinking water,
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a shipping port that drowns our air
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and diesel exhaust every day,
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but also the Ormond Beach
Generation Generating Station
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and the Mandalay Bay Gas Plant.
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Living in Oxnard, we
don't have the luxury
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of clean air because
accommodating polluting industry
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has been prioritized over
the health of our residents.
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There are communities like Oxnard all
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over the state who live with
the effects of air pollution
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and climate change every
day, as gas pollutes our air.
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For us, extreme heat days are only more
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and more common every year,
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and we knew, and we know
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that hotter climates make
gas prints more, pollute more,
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it's a toxic cycle.
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The IRP cannot allow
more than 30 million metric
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tons of greenhouse gases.
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The consideration of anything higher
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only erases the progress
of reducing emissions
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that we were promised by the state.
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We cannot keep setting
standards that stop the
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progress and innovation.
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I can say that we have
seen investments in clean
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energy being proposed in our community,
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but these investments
are not tied to displacing
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the power plants on our coasts.
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So EG communities like
Oxnard would get the clean energy
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but we're not getting the
public health or climate
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benefits because gas
power plants not being retired.
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And with the COVID-19
pandemic, which causes us to
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which has caused a severe
health crisis in our community,
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particularly for those
(bell rings)
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with respiratory issues.
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Now more than ever
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we need state regulators
to implement programs
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that prioritize clean air for
our health and our community.
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So I'm asking the CPUC
to adopt lower greenhouse
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gases targets in the IRP
proceeding and exclude
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any new staff,
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(indistinct) Extreme Weather Proceeding.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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The next caller, please, operator.
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And before
we go to the next caller,
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if we could have a
participants slow down
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just a little bit to allow for
our Spanish interpreters,
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that would be much appreciated.
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Our next caller is Tiffany Davey.
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You may go ahead.
00:16:07.520 --> 00:16:09.200
Hello, my name
is Tiffany Davey,
00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.227
speaking on the RP proceeding,
00:16:11.227 --> 00:16:13.840
and I'm calling from Long
Beach, California, which along
00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.310
with the rest of the LA Basin has some
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of the worst air quality in the nation.
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Our communities live with
the effects of air pollution
00:16:20.930 --> 00:16:23.450
and climate change
impacts directly attributable
00:16:23.450 --> 00:16:26.350
to the continued
operations of gas plants.
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Now, as we continue to be dealing
00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:30.024
with the COVID-19
pandemic in California,
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the CPUC needs to take care
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of the long-term health
and safety of all residents,
00:16:35.790 --> 00:16:37.270
which is why I'm
asking you to be a leader
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in the fight by adopting a
lower greenhouse gas target
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at or below 38 million metric tons.
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Now the IRP proceeding
decision on this GHD target
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was one of is one that
Californians will be left with,
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the ramifications are for decades.
00:16:54.233 --> 00:16:56.520
But the 38 million metric
ton target will put us
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on a pathway toward retiring
around 2,000 megawatts
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of existing gas power,
and is a necessary step to
00:17:03.210 --> 00:17:05.710
begin an orderly transition
off of gas generation.
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The current target locks
all of California gas plants
00:17:11.130 --> 00:17:13.223
in place through 2030,
and continues emissions
00:17:13.223 --> 00:17:16.900
from many plans in areas with
existing air quality problems,
00:17:16.900 --> 00:17:19.710
including San Bernardino
and San Joaquin counties
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as well as severe equity
problems, such as in Long Beach.
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Now, utility as NCCA has
already submitted plans
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for both the 46 million metric tons
00:17:28.857 --> 00:17:31.203
and 38 million metric tons scenarios,
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showing that they are capable
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and ready to work towards
more ambitious targets.
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The CPUC has a
responsibility to set California
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up to achieve its clean
air and climate goals.
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Now the CPUC seems
to be actively choosing to
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not hold our providers
to lower emissions targets
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and thereby putting the
house of Californians at risk.
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I urge the understanding
of whether this moves
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in one direction.
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We are confronted with the reality
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that we must make decisions
00:18:10.744 --> 00:18:14.759
that go against
judiciously... (bell rings)
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Thank you.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
00:18:27.010 --> 00:18:29.580
Our next
caller is Dave Schuplush.
00:18:29.580 --> 00:18:30.430
You may go ahead.
00:18:32.590 --> 00:18:36.300
Hello, my name is
Dave Schuplush and I'm calling
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from Long Beach with, as the
previous commentors has some
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of the worst air quality in the nation.
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We're learning from the August blackouts
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that some of the coastal
gas plants here had
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the available capacity they
could chose to be afforded.
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And that's because their
electricity is too expensive
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for the California market.
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California market is
shifting rapidly to renewables
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and it's the seasons
and proceedings like this
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where Californians are
actually having their voice heard
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and having their priority,
their public health priorities,
00:19:13.260 --> 00:19:17.560
their long-term
financial future priorities.
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So many of our priorities,
either being expressed
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or being the (indistinct)
taken away from him.
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I call on the CPUC, not
only to adopt the stringent
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most (indistinct) greenhouse
gas production targets.
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38 million metric tons
is probably too high,
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30 would be much better.
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The cost difference
is fairly negligible more
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over for local resilience
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for being able to prevent a problem like
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we had with the Silverado fires
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and longer wildfire season overall.
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We need to give Californians
the ability to move rapidly
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on clean energy investments
that they have long
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been saying they
want... (indistinct)
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Thank you.
00:20:10.840 --> 00:20:12.220
Thank you.
00:20:12.220 --> 00:20:14.233
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:20:15.820 --> 00:20:18.390
Our next
call is Elliot Gonzalez.
00:20:18.390 --> 00:20:19.240
You may go ahead.
00:20:21.770 --> 00:20:24.563
Hello, hello?
00:20:25.630 --> 00:20:27.100
We can hear you,
please go ahead.
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Okay, great.
00:20:28.617 --> 00:20:29.450
I just wanted to check, sorry.
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Yeah, I, I wanted you to
speak about the same items
00:20:32.660 --> 00:20:35.666
that we we heard the
previous speakers mention,
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the IRP rule, and the
emergency reliability rule.
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In terms of the IRP rule,
00:20:42.660 --> 00:20:47.660
not only should we have
a, a, a higher, I'm sorry,
00:20:48.340 --> 00:20:50.240
a lower emissions target,
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I think it's completely inadequate.
00:20:51.950 --> 00:20:54.690
We really need to be taking
climate change seriously.
00:20:54.690 --> 00:20:57.310
So we should be phasing it out.
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We shouldn't be on a path to
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to be to 100% renewable
energy within five to 10 years.
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So we're not anywhere
near that with the IRP rule.
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And then the so-called
emergency reliability,
00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:12.850
this is making us more
dependent on fossil fuels,
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on natural gas, something
that causes global warming,
00:21:15.750 --> 00:21:18.731
something that is taking us
further away from our targets.
00:21:18.731 --> 00:21:22.100
So I don't understand why
we're talking about this in 2021.
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I think that it's inadequate
with the climate science.
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So, you know, I'm not
going to ask adults, you know
00:21:28.030 --> 00:21:30.530
to do the right thing, you
know, what's going on.
00:21:30.530 --> 00:21:33.060
I just wanted to just let you
know that people are involved,
00:21:33.060 --> 00:21:34.720
people are watching, and we are counting
00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.630
on you to do what's in the
best interest of the future.
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And so that means finding,
finding a real reliable source,
00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:43.560
clean energy from the sun and the wind,
00:21:43.560 --> 00:21:46.418
something that is publicly
owned rather than continuing to
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you know, sacrifice
children's lungs in, in
00:21:49.530 --> 00:21:52.770
in our planet for the
natural gas companies.
00:21:52.770 --> 00:21:53.603
Thank you.
00:21:58.071 --> 00:21:59.090
Thank you.
00:21:59.090 --> 00:22:00.873
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:22:03.730 --> 00:22:06.333
Our next
caller is Audrey Chinosay,
00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:09.360
you may go ahead.
00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:10.220
Thank you.
00:22:10.220 --> 00:22:12.000
My name is Audrey Chinosay
00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:16.346
and I live in East East Berkeley.
00:22:16.346 --> 00:22:19.280
In South Berkeley,
sorry, and am a member
00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:21.230
of the East Bay Clean Power Alliance.
00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:23.889
And I also speak to item 40.
00:22:23.889 --> 00:22:28.889
So this proposed grooming is good
00:22:29.490 --> 00:22:32.780
in that it underscores
the short-term nature
00:22:32.780 --> 00:22:34.420
of the procurement order.
00:22:34.420 --> 00:22:37.280
Most expert analysis have concluded
00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:40.077
that inadequate supply was not the issue
00:22:40.077 --> 00:22:44.830
in 2020, August 2020,
far more consequential
00:22:44.830 --> 00:22:47.069
where market rules and practices.
00:22:47.069 --> 00:22:51.390
So I hope the Commission
is prioritizing measures
00:22:51.390 --> 00:22:53.640
that improve demand forecasts
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:58.040
and assure the actual
deliverability of the energy purchase.
00:22:58.040 --> 00:23:02.310
Also, another priority
should be ways to organize
00:23:02.310 --> 00:23:06.710
and effectively deliver
resources on the demand side,
00:23:06.710 --> 00:23:10.220
such as the LSE's
demand response programs.
00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:13.370
We were all pleasantly
surprised at the efficacy
00:23:13.370 --> 00:23:16.990
of the public response
to reload to reduce its load
00:23:16.990 --> 00:23:18.819
during those critical days.
00:23:18.819 --> 00:23:22.970
Less supportable elements
of this proposed ruling
00:23:22.970 --> 00:23:25.210
is that it orders procurement solely
00:23:25.210 --> 00:23:28.210
from assets owned by the three IOUs
00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:31.150
and provides inadequate
assurance of fairness
00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:32.614
to rate payers.
00:23:32.614 --> 00:23:36.210
I hope the Commission
recognizes the widely held suspicion
00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:40.530
of the IOUs that animates
California rate payers.
00:23:40.530 --> 00:23:42.420
It's this suspicion that accounts
00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:47.420
for their rapid exit from IOU
service to create local CCAs.
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.670
The price spikes in August resulted
00:23:50.670 --> 00:23:54.190
in millions of dollars of
unexpected uncalled for
00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:59.190
expenditures for the CCA,
and for my own CCA alone
00:23:59.800 --> 00:24:03.130
the financial burden of
that August leak amounted
00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:04.803
to almost $10 million.
00:24:05.959 --> 00:24:10.820
To conclude, I hope this
IOU procurement order
00:24:10.820 --> 00:24:15.560
will not take root and
add to the ramshackle
00:24:15.560 --> 00:24:17.854
expediency-driven nature (indistinct)
00:24:17.854 --> 00:24:20.939
(bell rings)
infrastructure.
00:24:20.939 --> 00:24:21.772
Thank you.
00:24:25.825 --> 00:24:26.658
Thank you.
00:24:28.215 --> 00:24:29.715
Operator, next caller, please.
00:24:31.090 --> 00:24:33.330
Our next
caller is Francis Yang.
00:24:33.330 --> 00:24:34.430
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:24:36.801 --> 00:24:38.190
Good morning,
my name's Francis,
00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:41.081
I'm calling from the Los Angeles area.
00:24:41.081 --> 00:24:44.567
I I'll just be really simple.
00:24:44.567 --> 00:24:48.250
I just care about climate
change and pollution.
00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:51.290
And that means during
this time we can't be talking
00:24:51.290 --> 00:24:55.856
about anymore fossil fuels
and in this case, no more gas.
00:24:55.856 --> 00:24:59.090
And to read that the IRP has such
00:24:59.090 --> 00:25:01.530
an unambiguous greenhouse gas target
00:25:01.530 --> 00:25:03.130
we should definitely be shooting
00:25:04.478 --> 00:25:06.340
for at least 30 million
metric tons of emissions.
00:25:06.340 --> 00:25:08.220
And also that there's
this thing called the
00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:10.530
Extreme Weather Proceeding, which looks
00:25:10.530 --> 00:25:12.370
like you just want to procure more gas
00:25:12.370 --> 00:25:16.330
because apparently
we're not burning enough.
00:25:16.330 --> 00:25:17.800
And so to me,
00:25:17.800 --> 00:25:21.300
all this means is the
CPUC isn't taking seriously
00:25:21.300 --> 00:25:25.180
at all this whole California
Climate Leader Initiative.
00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:29.360
Instead, it's just continuing
to adhere to the status quo,
00:25:29.360 --> 00:25:31.890
this big utility thinking
like, oh my God
00:25:31.890 --> 00:25:34.730
we have all these spires,
our grids are shutting down.
00:25:34.730 --> 00:25:37.150
Matter of fact, utilities are
causing a lot of these fires.
00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:40.560
Let's just buy more gas and
that'll just solve the problem.
00:25:40.560 --> 00:25:42.660
And the extreme irony I feel right now
00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:45.010
is it's called the Extreme
Weather Proceeding.
00:25:45.010 --> 00:25:48.500
We should be doing everything
to stop extreme weather
00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:50.040
not fan the planes
00:25:50.040 --> 00:25:53.110
which burn gases pretty literally doing.
00:25:53.110 --> 00:25:55.600
And so I'm pretty much calling the same
00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:58.528
as they hear a lot of other
community members talk
00:25:58.528 --> 00:26:00.040
about adopt a lower
greenhouse gas targets
00:26:00.040 --> 00:26:03.279
for the IRP and just no more gas in
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.140
especially in the Extreme
Weather Proceeding.
00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:06.973
That's all.
00:26:06.973 --> 00:26:07.806
Thank you for your time.
00:26:07.806 --> 00:26:09.090
I hope you've got it right.
00:26:12.060 --> 00:26:12.893
Thank you.
00:26:13.890 --> 00:26:15.790
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:27.490
Hello?
00:26:27.490 --> 00:26:29.790
Our next
caller is Brett Garrett.
00:26:30.974 --> 00:26:31.807
You may go ahead.
00:26:33.517 --> 00:26:34.930
Brett] Good morning,
my name is Brett Garrett
00:26:34.930 --> 00:26:36.180
from Santa Cruz.
00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.630
I'm calling to oppose item 40,
00:26:38.630 --> 00:26:42.410
the expedited expedited
capacity procurement
00:26:42.410 --> 00:26:44.000
for Summer 2021.
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.290
I oppose this ruling
because it's a blank check
00:26:46.290 --> 00:26:47.820
for utilities to get paid
00:26:47.820 --> 00:26:50.220
to purchase more fossil fuel energy.
00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:52.430
This will harm community choice agencies
00:26:52.430 --> 00:26:56.610
and their customers by
increasing the PCIA exit fees,
00:26:56.610 --> 00:26:59.530
and it harms the climate
at harms the environment.
00:26:59.530 --> 00:27:02.020
This proposed action
really doesn't address
00:27:02.020 --> 00:27:04.610
the root causes of
last year's blackouts.
00:27:04.610 --> 00:27:05.520
Don't take it from me,
00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:07.990
take it from experts,
such as Loretta Lynch
00:27:07.990 --> 00:27:10.140
the former President of CPUC
00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:11.810
who is raising serious questions
00:27:11.810 --> 00:27:15.210
and concerns regarding
the root cause analysis.
00:27:15.210 --> 00:27:19.440
One of the biggest causes
was excess exports of energy,
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.810
huge amounts of energy being exported
00:27:21.810 --> 00:27:24.280
when CAILO those knew
the demand would be high,
00:27:24.280 --> 00:27:26.560
doubled the exports from 2019.
00:27:26.560 --> 00:27:27.960
We were producing enough energy
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.290
but it was being sent
off to other states.
00:27:30.290 --> 00:27:32.780
Virtual bidding played a large role when
00:27:32.780 --> 00:27:35.680
the virtual bidding was
stopped, the exports decreased.
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.980
And some of the gas fired
power that we already paid
00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:40.930
for was actually turned off,
00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:43.720
both planned and unplanned outages.
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.220
Other nearby states experienced
the same extreme weather,
00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:49.440
but they didn't have blackouts.
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.120
There's a webinar on the
Clean Coalition website
00:27:52.120 --> 00:27:54.700
that provides a lot of
evidence and details.
00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:56.420
It's worth watching.
00:27:56.420 --> 00:28:00.680
Clean-coalition.org,
under events, past events.
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.903
The name is, "What Cal ISO
00:28:02.903 --> 00:28:04.780
"Didn't Tell You About
the August Blackouts,"
00:28:04.780 --> 00:28:08.020
great information from Loretta
Lynch and other presenters.
00:28:08.020 --> 00:28:11.180
It's also on YouTube and I
highly recommend watching it.
00:28:11.180 --> 00:28:14.097
Anyone that's interested in
this issue and especially those
00:28:14.097 --> 00:28:16.600
of you that are making
the decisions that affect us.
00:28:16.600 --> 00:28:17.433
Please watch it.
00:28:17.433 --> 00:28:19.217
The name is "What Cal ISO
00:28:19.217 --> 00:28:22.120
"Didn't Tell You About
the August Blackouts."
00:28:22.120 --> 00:28:24.840
So my bottom line, I do
not support the investor
00:28:24.840 --> 00:28:27.800
on utilities buying
more fossil fuel energy.
00:28:27.800 --> 00:28:29.680
I agree with, I think every one
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.630
of the previous callers,
please oppose item 40.
00:28:33.630 --> 00:28:34.463
Thank you.
00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:41.250
Thank you.
00:28:41.250 --> 00:28:43.513
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:47.650
Our next
caller is Dr. Jim Stewart,
00:28:47.650 --> 00:28:48.783
sir, you may go ahead.
00:28:50.810 --> 00:28:53.700
Hello, welcome,
Commissioner Hoag,
00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:57.833
we really look forward to
your support on many issues,
00:28:57.833 --> 00:29:00.770
including facing the climate crisis.
00:29:00.770 --> 00:29:03.640
Some of the speakers
have been talking about that,
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:08.640
and ensuring equity for
all California rate payers
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:13.720
including the millions
of customers of CCAs.
00:29:14.135 --> 00:29:16.390
All of us callers here
00:29:16.390 --> 00:29:18.780
and you're going to make
a big mistake on item 40.
00:29:18.780 --> 00:29:22.000
You must delay that
consideration of that
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.256
until you and your staff really
understand the real cause
00:29:25.256 --> 00:29:29.865
of the blackouts was not lack of power.
00:29:29.865 --> 00:29:34.865
You should go to that January 28 video
00:29:35.210 --> 00:29:37.720
of the expert analysis as posted
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.292
on the Clean Coalition
website, under events,
00:29:41.292 --> 00:29:46.292
and understand what this
previous speakers have said.
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:52.400
They were not short of
power, it was a computer glitch,
00:29:52.760 --> 00:29:55.830
and once they got
that market issue fixed
00:29:55.830 --> 00:29:58.370
there weren't any more blackouts, even
00:29:58.370 --> 00:30:03.370
though the power demand
increased later in the summer.
00:30:05.560 --> 00:30:09.300
We fear that you may be
thinking that your decision
00:30:09.300 --> 00:30:13.036
to purchase more unnecessary
power will help Newsome
00:30:13.036 --> 00:30:15.686
if there's a recall, but you're wrong.
00:30:15.686 --> 00:30:18.240
It's going to hurt him because
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.270
of all the power bills are going up.
00:30:21.270 --> 00:30:25.660
It's time for you to look at the video
00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:27.610
and understand what's going on
00:30:27.610 --> 00:30:30.640
before you make a rash decision.
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.782
Don't leave California customers dry.
00:30:34.782 --> 00:30:39.019
Thank you.
00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:40.640
Thank you, Dr. Stewart.
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.663
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:30:44.380 --> 00:30:46.690
Our next
caller is Eva Torres.
00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:47.540
You may go ahead.
00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:53.003
Hello, good morning.
00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:56.650
I'm calling today, my
name is Eva Torres,
00:30:56.650 --> 00:31:00.200
I'm calling as a community
member of the inland region
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.120
and I'm speaking on the IRP
and emergency really, really
00:31:04.120 --> 00:31:05.550
really proceeding.
00:31:05.550 --> 00:31:09.020
I'm calling in because
a lot of my communities
00:31:09.020 --> 00:31:10.880
around in the LA region, specifically
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.260
one community that I want to talk about,
00:31:12.260 --> 00:31:17.240
Colton, deals with
extreme air quality issues.
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.780
Not only is this community
surrounded by three gas plants,
00:31:20.780 --> 00:31:25.010
but an enormous amount of
freight, warehouses, and trucking.
00:31:25.010 --> 00:31:26.700
This community suffers from one
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:30.720
of the worst air qualities
in the region, especially
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.190
because of all the cumulative
impacts that are coming.
00:31:34.190 --> 00:31:35.980
For this community and
communities like mine
00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:40.580
in the inland region,
choosing gas is not our choice.
00:31:40.580 --> 00:31:42.797
We want clean and reusable energy,
00:31:42.797 --> 00:31:46.710
and we need our Commissioners to listen
00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:48.350
to the eyes to our cries
00:31:48.350 --> 00:31:52.530
and really think about going
into 100% clean renewables.
00:31:52.530 --> 00:31:55.990
We no longer are at a point
where we can afford that.
00:31:55.990 --> 00:31:58.727
We can, we just stopped
bringing gas into our communities
00:31:58.727 --> 00:32:00.620
and I urge you today to adopt
00:32:00.620 --> 00:32:02.850
a lower greenhouse gas project.
00:32:02.850 --> 00:32:04.160
I know the lowest right now
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.380
it's considered is 30 metric tons,
00:32:06.380 --> 00:32:08.540
but it all could even go below that,
00:32:08.540 --> 00:32:09.730
that would be great.
00:32:09.730 --> 00:32:10.880
I also want to make sure
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.090
that we exclude any new gas procurement
00:32:13.090 --> 00:32:15.800
and the Extreme Weather
Proceedings, because some
00:32:15.800 --> 00:32:18.780
of the main gases for the
August outages having fixed
00:32:19.620 --> 00:32:22.640
and gas plants aren't reliable anymore.
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.236
We need better alternatives
for our community and ourselves.
00:32:26.236 --> 00:32:30.141
Thank you.
00:32:30.141 --> 00:32:31.866
Thank you.
00:32:31.866 --> 00:32:33.363
Operator, the
next caller, please.
00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:37.300
Our next caller
is Alexis Centerman,
00:32:37.300 --> 00:32:38.150
you may go ahead.
00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:41.440
Hi, good morning everyone.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:42.657
My name is Alexa Centerman
00:32:42.657 --> 00:32:45.220
and I'm currently a
resident of Sacramento.
00:32:45.220 --> 00:32:48.000
I'm calling today to speak on the IRP
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.238
and Extreme Weather Proceeding
00:32:50.238 --> 00:32:52.450
because of so many other people
00:32:52.450 --> 00:32:54.470
on the call have already iterated.
00:32:54.470 --> 00:32:58.420
Climate change is very
clearly here and getting worse
00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:01.880
and not only is this really
scary in the long-term
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.210
for our planet and our
species, in the short-term,
00:33:04.210 --> 00:33:07.210
so many of our most
vulnerable communities are
00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:09.580
really bearing the brunt
of this and breathing
00:33:09.580 --> 00:33:13.050
in toxic air, which leads
to higher health risks.
00:33:13.050 --> 00:33:14.670
And as we've seen with COVID
00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:17.220
this is definitely a
life or death situation
00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:20.770
at this point for so many
people that are exposed to this.
00:33:20.770 --> 00:33:23.130
So in other words, if
California is actually
00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:24.860
trying to be a leader on climate change,
00:33:24.860 --> 00:33:27.300
I'm calling to urge the
Commission to do everything
00:33:27.300 --> 00:33:31.540
in their power to ensure
that our state's power is clean,
00:33:31.540 --> 00:33:34.408
renewable, healthy,
resilient, and reliable.
00:33:34.408 --> 00:33:36.910
And that's why I'm asking the CPUC today
00:33:36.910 --> 00:33:39.960
to one, adopted greenhouse gas target
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.770
and the IRP proceeding that is at, or
00:33:42.770 --> 00:33:47.770
below 38 million metric tons,
preferably 30 would be ideal.
00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:52.000
And then secondly, to exclude
any new gas procurement
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.340
in the Extreme Weather Proceeding
00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:56.060
because as a lot of
people have identified
00:33:56.060 --> 00:33:59.610
the main causes for the August
outages have been fixed the
00:33:59.610 --> 00:34:01.610
gas plants that were available
00:34:01.610 --> 00:34:03.060
weren't reliable at the time.
00:34:04.378 --> 00:34:05.211
And there are definitely
better alternatives out
00:34:05.211 --> 00:34:07.760
there that can solve
for the climate crisis
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:09.360
and start to promote more health
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.100
and safety for our communities.
00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:13.630
I just wanted to end by saying that
00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:16.738
I understand that these
problems are complex
00:34:16.738 --> 00:34:18.240
and that they're large,
and that they're difficult,
00:34:18.240 --> 00:34:20.840
but I know that the
Commission has the power to
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.420
really implement bold,
creative solutions that commit
00:34:24.420 --> 00:34:26.750
to the safe, the safety and
health of our communities
00:34:26.750 --> 00:34:29.560
and commit to California's SB 100 goals.
00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:33.530
So please, I urge you to
exercise your responsibility today.
00:34:33.530 --> 00:34:34.363
Thank you.
00:34:36.310 --> 00:34:37.510
Thank you.
00:34:37.510 --> 00:34:39.210
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:34:41.710 --> 00:34:44.370
Our next caller
is Gabriella Mendez,
00:34:44.370 --> 00:34:45.220
you may go ahead.
00:34:48.770 --> 00:34:51.530
Hi, hello,
give me one second.
00:34:51.530 --> 00:34:54.010
Okay, so I'm Gabriella
Mendez, I'm calling
00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:55.120
from the (indistinct) region
00:34:55.120 --> 00:34:58.287
and I'm mostly here to echo
exactly what everyone just said.
00:34:58.287 --> 00:34:59.987
Right?
00:34:59.987 --> 00:35:01.610
I want to adopt a lower
greenhouse gas target
00:35:01.610 --> 00:35:06.070
in the IRP proceeding
at or below 30 MMT's.
00:35:06.070 --> 00:35:08.660
This is because we are
in a climate emergency.
00:35:08.660 --> 00:35:11.230
Our communities are
constantly suffering the burden
00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:12.597
of this stuff that's going on
00:35:12.597 --> 00:35:15.130
and we really need to hold
you guys accountable, right?
00:35:15.130 --> 00:35:17.110
Because it's not, it's getting
00:35:17.110 --> 00:35:19.520
to a place where it's definitely hiking
00:35:19.520 --> 00:35:21.790
up the numbers of people
who are passing away, right?
00:35:21.790 --> 00:35:23.235
All of these community impacts.
00:35:23.235 --> 00:35:24.630
And now COVID, right,
00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:26.910
is making it more dangerous
for our communities.
00:35:26.910 --> 00:35:30.360
I also want to ask that you
exclude any new gas procurement
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:31.930
in the Extreme Weather Proceeding
00:35:31.930 --> 00:35:33.740
because some of the main reasons
00:35:33.740 --> 00:35:36.640
for the August outages have been fixed.
00:35:36.640 --> 00:35:39.650
Gas lines weren't reliable
and there are better alternative.
00:35:39.650 --> 00:35:41.810
We are moving towards
a future that is green.
00:35:41.810 --> 00:35:43.320
Why not start now?
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:44.153
Right?
00:35:44.153 --> 00:35:44.986
And especially when you guys are going
00:35:44.986 --> 00:35:46.860
to be saving lives by doing so.
00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:47.793
So I really, really hope
00:35:47.793 --> 00:35:50.490
that you take my comment
into consideration today
00:35:50.490 --> 00:35:54.090
and adopt a lower greenhouse
gas target and the IRP,
00:35:54.090 --> 00:35:56.940
and also look towards other alternatives
00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:58.380
that are more reliable and better
00:35:58.380 --> 00:35:59.960
for our environment and our people.
00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:01.023
Thank you so much.
00:36:03.460 --> 00:36:05.070
Thank you very much.
00:36:05.070 --> 00:36:07.573
Operator, caller...
Next caller, please.
00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:11.070
Our next
caller is Chuck Roselle,
00:36:11.070 --> 00:36:12.170
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:36:13.220 --> 00:36:14.140
Thank you.
00:36:14.140 --> 00:36:17.230
My name is Chuck
Roselle, I live in Oakland,
00:36:17.230 --> 00:36:20.520
and I'm calling as a rate
payer representing myself.
00:36:20.520 --> 00:36:23.130
I'm calling to express
concern over item 40, a vote
00:36:23.130 --> 00:36:25.430
for additional utility power procurement
00:36:25.430 --> 00:36:27.296
to address resource adequacy.
00:36:27.296 --> 00:36:30.890
The ongoing presence of
a significant PCIA should
00:36:30.890 --> 00:36:33.180
be sufficient evidence
that there's currently
00:36:33.180 --> 00:36:36.470
more utility-authorized
power than the state needs.
00:36:36.470 --> 00:36:37.840
The issue is not more power,
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.950
it is appropriately apportioning
existing power properly,
00:36:41.950 --> 00:36:45.270
approving this procurement
will only worsen the situation.
00:36:45.270 --> 00:36:48.500
CCA customers are or
soon will be the largest class
00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:50.244
of power customer in the state
00:36:50.244 --> 00:36:52.770
and approval decision
item 40 could be viewed
00:36:52.770 --> 00:36:55.960
as a cost shift to the
state's largest user base.
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.630
You should not forget that
decisions restricting CCA
00:36:58.630 --> 00:37:02.370
financial flexibility also
restrict local municipalities.
00:37:02.370 --> 00:37:04.250
A bad decision could also be viewed
00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:05.950
as part of a recent pattern
00:37:05.950 --> 00:37:09.460
of decision-making that is
unfavorable to other communities.
00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:11.860
This includes abusive,
enhanced vegetation,
00:37:11.860 --> 00:37:14.573
a PSPS structure that
protects utility finances
00:37:14.573 --> 00:37:18.250
by creating much greater
financial damage to local business,
00:37:18.250 --> 00:37:21.818
and diesel micro grids that
ignore community preference
00:37:21.818 --> 00:37:22.651
for clean energy solutions.
00:37:22.651 --> 00:37:24.890
Utilities forget but the CPI use,
00:37:24.890 --> 00:37:27.610
but the CPUC should never lose sight
00:37:27.610 --> 00:37:29.900
of the fact that the
industry owes its existence
00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:32.730
to municipally authorized
franchise agreements.
00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:34.900
I understand it can
be difficult to efficiently
00:37:34.900 --> 00:37:36.880
reconcile load across compartmentalize
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.550
load serving entities.
00:37:38.550 --> 00:37:41.100
The solution is not to
centralize financial control
00:37:41.100 --> 00:37:44.210
and decision-making in the
hands of one minority supplier.
00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:45.870
Rather there should
be a level playing field
00:37:45.870 --> 00:37:47.780
for all load serving
entities and assurance
00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:50.050
that area's supplier has equal access
00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:51.830
to the best available load information
00:37:51.830 --> 00:37:53.710
to respond to emergencies.
00:37:53.710 --> 00:37:55.880
The CPUC could exercise its leadership
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:58.319
by restructuring the
centralized procurement process
00:37:58.319 --> 00:38:01.440
to create an alternative
that equity believe balances
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.610
load decisions among all
power supply stakeholders.
00:38:04.610 --> 00:38:06.150
It's an effort that could be undertaken
00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:08.390
in conjunction with the CDC and Tyson.
00:38:08.390 --> 00:38:11.880
I would also like to briefly
express my support for RevOne
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.367
to the proposed decision
adopting guiding principles
00:38:14.367 --> 00:38:18.290
for development of a
successor to the NEM tariff.
00:38:18.290 --> 00:38:21.330
I must admit I was taken
somewhat aback by the fact
00:38:21.330 --> 00:38:23.840
that the joint utility opposition
response was authored
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.090
by former Commissioner, Carla Peterman.
00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:27.560
It seemed inappropriate.
00:38:27.560 --> 00:38:28.760
Thank you for listening.
00:38:30.791 --> 00:38:33.010
Thank you for the call.
00:38:33.010 --> 00:38:34.710
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:38:36.776 --> 00:38:39.733
Our next
caller is Angie Aldarez.
00:38:40.633 --> 00:38:42.190
You may go ahead.
00:38:42.190 --> 00:38:43.770
Yes, hello.
00:38:43.770 --> 00:38:44.830
Good morning.
00:38:44.830 --> 00:38:47.530
My name is Angie
Aldarez, I'm a resident here
00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:50.826
in the city of Highland in
San Bernardino County.
00:38:50.826 --> 00:38:54.370
And I live in a community facing impacts
00:38:54.370 --> 00:38:57.910
of environment racism every day.
00:38:57.910 --> 00:38:59.030
Not only do we deal
00:38:59.030 --> 00:39:03.960
with that air quality and extreme
weather during the summer,
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.040
but we're also a home
of the fire season.
00:39:07.040 --> 00:39:10.850
So that's why I'm here
to encourage the CPUC
00:39:10.850 --> 00:39:13.840
to adopt lower greenhouse gas targets
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:18.720
and the IRP proceedings
at, or below 38 MMT,
00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:20.670
and hopefully way below,
00:39:20.670 --> 00:39:24.050
but also please exclude
any new gas permits,
00:39:24.050 --> 00:39:26.860
Extreme Weather
Proceedings, even though some
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:29.968
of the main causes for last year's
00:39:29.968 --> 00:39:34.450
August outages have
been supposedly fixed,
00:39:34.450 --> 00:39:37.430
but let's be real, gas
plants were unreliable.
00:39:37.430 --> 00:39:38.720
There are better alternatives
00:39:38.720 --> 00:39:41.120
we should be investing in to prioritize
00:39:41.120 --> 00:39:44.830
the longterm health of
communities like mine
00:39:44.830 --> 00:39:48.890
where folks fight
respiratory issues every day.
00:39:48.890 --> 00:39:50.820
I got siblings with asthma,
00:39:50.820 --> 00:39:53.220
I even have some breathing issues
00:39:53.220 --> 00:39:55.550
I'm trying to pinpoint.
00:39:55.550 --> 00:40:00.080
We need clean energy,
not gas and other fossil fuels.
00:40:00.080 --> 00:40:01.880
Stop with the bandaid.
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.830
We need solid drastic solutions.
00:40:04.830 --> 00:40:07.403
Our folks are dying, dying.
00:40:08.303 --> 00:40:11.072
How many more deaths do we need
00:40:11.072 --> 00:40:16.072
for folks to do the right
thing and give us a vote?
00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:20.560
Let's do the right thing and
give folks what they deserve,
00:40:20.560 --> 00:40:22.380
clean air to breathe.
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.520
I hope you stand alongside community
00:40:24.520 --> 00:40:25.950
because enough is enough.
00:40:25.950 --> 00:40:26.783
Thank you.
00:40:29.410 --> 00:40:30.990
Thank you.
00:40:30.990 --> 00:40:33.083
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:40:34.710 --> 00:40:37.210
Our next caller
is Rose Sanibel.
00:40:37.210 --> 00:40:38.110
Your line is open.
00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:45.657
And Rose, we are unable to hear you,
00:40:45.657 --> 00:40:47.207
Can you check your mute button?
00:40:59.034 --> 00:40:59.867
And due to no response
00:40:59.867 --> 00:41:01.200
if you want to go to the next caller?
00:41:04.620 --> 00:41:07.370
Yes, hopefully
the caller can get back in.
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.040
Our next caller is Reef
Holland, you may go ahead.
00:41:16.040 --> 00:41:18.140
Thank you, Commissioners.
00:41:18.140 --> 00:41:20.067
I'm calling from Simi Valley.
00:41:20.067 --> 00:41:23.350
We've got to vote no on item 40
00:41:23.350 --> 00:41:26.390
and really assess how
we got here to begin with.
00:41:26.390 --> 00:41:28.950
The holes California's power
issue stemmed from the fact
00:41:28.950 --> 00:41:30.590
that we use profit earning companies
00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:32.540
for power in the first place.
00:41:32.540 --> 00:41:36.648
We need municipalize all
stout state power providers
00:41:36.648 --> 00:41:38.690
start making a (indistinct) transition
00:41:38.690 --> 00:41:40.420
to localize renewable energy,
00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:42.820
like solar and wind generation so
00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:47.210
that communities can have
power close by, all year round,
00:41:47.210 --> 00:41:48.890
without being a problem.
00:41:48.890 --> 00:41:52.030
California has enough
sun and wind to power itself,
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:53.330
especially when the sun is hot
00:41:53.330 --> 00:41:56.000
in the sky, where the winds blow hard.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.880
That shouldn't be an
excuse to shut the power off
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.693
or pay for energy procurement.
00:42:02.170 --> 00:42:04.430
We've known that the
state has inclement weather
00:42:04.430 --> 00:42:06.310
and wildfires, that isn't new.
00:42:06.310 --> 00:42:08.520
I'm appalled that over my lifetime
00:42:08.520 --> 00:42:11.810
as a resident of California,
it seems that we're stuck
00:42:11.810 --> 00:42:14.840
in the same place that
we're being held hostage
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.380
by the power companies and
the people who monitor them,
00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:23.110
instead of simply taking them
over as an asset of the state
00:42:23.110 --> 00:42:24.860
and finally getting the work done
00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:28.090
that we need to clean
up our infrastructure.
00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:30.350
Make sure we don't have any shutoffs
00:42:30.350 --> 00:42:33.590
make sure we don't need
to do energy procurement,
00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:36.380
and once again, use solar
00:42:36.380 --> 00:42:39.940
and wind that we have in abundance.
00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:42.120
Just start using it, use it
00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:44.880
so that no neighborhood
ever has to go down
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.890
when the sun shining in the
sky, when the wind's blowing,
00:42:47.890 --> 00:42:50.500
and there's issues with
keeping the power grid up.
00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:51.333
Thank you.
00:42:53.980 --> 00:42:55.300
Thank you.
00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:57.000
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:42:59.560 --> 00:43:01.893
Our next
caller is Lillia Ullua.
00:43:05.450 --> 00:43:06.300
You may go ahead.
00:43:20.803 --> 00:43:24.803
Can you check and see
if she is muted, operator?
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:27.633
Go ahead, we cannot hear you.
00:43:29.790 --> 00:43:31.640
She is currently
in her Spanish conference,
00:43:31.640 --> 00:43:35.963
so we should hear some
English interpretation shortly.
00:43:35.963 --> 00:43:37.971
Okay, great, thank you.
00:43:37.971 --> 00:43:40.304
You're welcome.
00:44:44.937 --> 00:44:47.813
And I guess our next
caller then is Chris Peoples.
00:44:49.377 --> 00:44:50.980
Please go ahead.
00:44:50.980 --> 00:44:52.403
Thank you.
00:44:52.403 --> 00:44:53.236
My name is Chris Peoples,
00:44:53.236 --> 00:44:54.430
I live in Oakland, California,
00:44:54.430 --> 00:44:59.040
and I have been a PG and E
rate payer for about 45 years.
00:44:59.040 --> 00:45:01.410
And I'm calling on item 40,
00:45:01.410 --> 00:45:04.155
as many of the folks
calling in today are.
00:45:04.155 --> 00:45:08.770
I would urge you to delay that decision
00:45:08.770 --> 00:45:12.380
until you've had an
opportunity to take a look
00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:15.750
at the root cause analysis,
00:45:15.750 --> 00:45:18.380
and although it's somewhat hidden
00:45:18.380 --> 00:45:20.220
in the root cause analysis,
00:45:20.220 --> 00:45:24.180
it's absolutely clear
that California had plenty
00:45:24.180 --> 00:45:28.750
of energy on the two days
that they had blackouts.
00:45:28.750 --> 00:45:33.750
The energy had been
shunted off to other states
00:45:34.040 --> 00:45:37.430
that never imposed blackouts
00:45:37.430 --> 00:45:42.430
and there were some gas-powered plants
00:45:42.560 --> 00:45:46.610
that were shut down for unknown reasons.
00:45:46.610 --> 00:45:50.390
This is very reminiscent of
what happened with Enron.
00:45:50.390 --> 00:45:52.660
Further investigation
showed that what happened
00:45:52.660 --> 00:45:55.900
with Enron was done
absolutely intentionally.
00:45:55.900 --> 00:45:58.834
I have no idea whether
that was the case here,
00:45:58.834 --> 00:46:03.834
but we should not be
procuring on long-term contracts,
00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:09.050
additional energy, when
we have plenty here today
00:46:09.210 --> 00:46:10.830
and we had plenty
00:46:10.830 --> 00:46:14.860
on the days that Cal
ISO requested a blackout.
00:46:14.860 --> 00:46:18.280
So I would urge you
to delay item 40, please.
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:19.113
Thank you.
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:23.193
Thank you.
00:46:24.100 --> 00:46:25.800
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:46:27.220 --> 00:46:29.260
Our next
caller is Chris Wang,
00:46:29.260 --> 00:46:31.397
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:46:31.397 --> 00:46:32.700
Hi, my
name's Christopher Wang
00:46:32.700 --> 00:46:35.260
and I'm calling to
you as a resident here
00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:38.710
in San Juan Bautista, which
is a part of San Benito County.
00:46:38.710 --> 00:46:42.860
One of the primary mission
statements of the CPUC reads
00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:45.210
that you're trying to
regulate services and utilities,
00:46:45.210 --> 00:46:47.100
protects consumer,
safeguards the environment,
00:46:47.100 --> 00:46:49.280
and the assure
Californians access to safe
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.120
and reliable utility
infrastructure and services.
00:46:52.120 --> 00:46:54.630
I'm just calling in support
of our current proposed
00:46:54.630 --> 00:46:57.167
CASAP project, which
charter has proposed.
00:46:57.167 --> 00:46:59.950
And our specific one
is called River Oaks.
00:46:59.950 --> 00:47:01.710
I don't know if there's
anything further that I can do
00:47:01.710 --> 00:47:05.033
besides supporting the
project publicly, but a lot of us
00:47:05.033 --> 00:47:08.010
in our community are really
hard pressed to access internet
00:47:08.010 --> 00:47:11.880
right now because
there is a stop, physically.
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.110
We are only, we're only
able to get satellite internet
00:47:15.110 --> 00:47:16.510
out here, which is really tough.
00:47:16.510 --> 00:47:19.010
All of us are subject to
at least two-year contracts
00:47:19.010 --> 00:47:22.457
with all of these providers
that are sticky and sneaky
00:47:22.457 --> 00:47:25.260
and very unstable that have
00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:27.910
very unstable connections essentially.
00:47:27.910 --> 00:47:30.050
And we're really wrapped
up with these high ETFs and
00:47:30.050 --> 00:47:32.120
there's really no guarantee
of service from them.
00:47:32.120 --> 00:47:35.390
So it's really tough
for us to transition
00:47:35.390 --> 00:47:36.560
to this work-from-home period.
00:47:36.560 --> 00:47:38.775
We've been looking into this since
00:47:38.775 --> 00:47:40.940
like March of last year when
the initial proposal happened,
00:47:40.940 --> 00:47:43.240
but we'd really like to just
voice our public opinion
00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:44.641
and support for the
project to go through.
00:47:44.641 --> 00:47:48.810
Our project number
or our project impact is
00:47:48.810 --> 00:47:53.810
about $829,000 and it would give service
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.120
to approximately 45 homes in our area.
00:47:57.120 --> 00:47:58.320
Thank you for your time.
00:48:01.364 --> 00:48:02.660
Thank you.
00:48:02.660 --> 00:48:04.403
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:48:08.290 --> 00:48:11.810
Our next
caller is Yassy Cavazeda,
00:48:11.810 --> 00:48:12.660
you may go ahead.
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.841
Good morning.
00:48:15.841 --> 00:48:17.533
Sorry, give me a moment.
00:48:18.540 --> 00:48:22.020
I'm multi-tasking as many of
us are during the pandemic.
00:48:22.020 --> 00:48:24.540
Hello, my name is
Yassy and I'm a resident
00:48:24.540 --> 00:48:28.280
of the Inland Empire where
we constantly see smog
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.880
and air pollution in front
of our eyes every day
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.130
and feel the effects on our health.
00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:35.420
Of course, I'm standing
in solidarity with many
00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:38.510
of the callers that called
today on the integrated
00:48:38.510 --> 00:48:43.510
or the IRP and the
Emergency Response Program.
00:48:43.950 --> 00:48:46.210
I also wanted to just
remind this Commission
00:48:46.210 --> 00:48:47.490
of the month we're in.
00:48:47.490 --> 00:48:48.980
We are in black history month
00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:52.220
and I wanted to read a
quote from Martin Luther King,
00:48:52.220 --> 00:48:54.739
which many of us have
probably already heard before.
00:48:54.739 --> 00:48:57.587
"If you can't fly, then run.
00:48:57.587 --> 00:48:59.677
"If you can't run, then walk.
00:48:59.677 --> 00:49:03.007
"If you can't walk then
crawl, but whatever you do
00:49:03.007 --> 00:49:05.630
"you have to keep moving forward."
00:49:05.630 --> 00:49:07.800
Both of these proceedings are setting us
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.170
on a course, moving backwards.
00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:14.400
We cannot stand idly by
as we see your Commission
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.500
power moving, moving in a direction
00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:20.220
that's going to keep rate
payers and communities
00:49:20.220 --> 00:49:23.830
toking on dirty air,
facing a climate chaos,
00:49:23.830 --> 00:49:26.800
and the continuation
of a reliance on gas
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:30.340
and outdated technology
we no longer can afford.
00:49:30.340 --> 00:49:33.760
Simply put, the technology,
the policy, and the
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:37.183
accessibility to move towards
renewable energy is there.
00:49:37.183 --> 00:49:40.930
I am happy to hear about
the new Commissioner,
00:49:40.930 --> 00:49:43.010
shout out to you being your first day
00:49:43.010 --> 00:49:46.300
on this huge decision in front of you.
00:49:46.300 --> 00:49:49.740
We need more time and you
must reject these two proceedings.
00:49:49.740 --> 00:49:53.640
This is simply a
business as usual that we
00:49:53.640 --> 00:49:54.780
cannot afford anymore.
00:49:54.780 --> 00:49:58.510
We have a new Commission
that's ready to take bold action
00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:01.160
and I'm just here to
remind you all to keep that
00:50:01.160 --> 00:50:03.890
vibrancy alive and
reject these two proposed
00:50:03.890 --> 00:50:05.910
decisions in front of you today.
00:50:05.910 --> 00:50:09.153
Again, that's the IRP
decision and the Emergency
00:50:09.153 --> 00:50:11.870
Demand Response Proceeding
00:50:11.870 --> 00:50:15.600
that was super last minute
and you know, barely
00:50:15.600 --> 00:50:19.510
barely had any
community input in inside.
00:50:19.510 --> 00:50:22.383
So I'm sure of our air
quality and of our climate.
00:50:23.407 --> 00:50:24.433
And please, please, thank you so much.
00:50:27.245 --> 00:50:28.730
Thank you.
00:50:28.730 --> 00:50:30.573
Operator the next caller, please.
00:50:32.040 --> 00:50:34.430
Our next
caller is Wendy Avila,
00:50:34.430 --> 00:50:35.313
you may go ahead.
00:50:39.170 --> 00:50:41.330
Hi, my name
is Wendy Avila and I'm
00:50:41.330 --> 00:50:44.100
from the City of Maywood
in Southeast Los Angeles.
00:50:44.100 --> 00:50:46.470
And I'm here to talk
about the IRP proceedings
00:50:46.470 --> 00:50:49.310
and extreme weather,
and emergency reliability.
00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:50.970
My community lives with the effects
00:50:50.970 --> 00:50:53.900
of air pollution and
climate change every day
00:50:53.900 --> 00:50:55.850
as the gas pollutes our air.
00:50:55.850 --> 00:50:58.270
I live within an area that
is near so much industry
00:50:58.270 --> 00:51:00.730
and puts our health
at risk every single day.
00:51:00.730 --> 00:51:03.227
And I refuse to accept
these forms of pollution.
00:51:03.227 --> 00:51:06.140
California is a leader
on solving climate change
00:51:06.140 --> 00:51:09.400
with legislation to move
us away from fossil fuels.
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.700
Relying on gas capitol
expenses, the extreme
00:51:12.700 --> 00:51:14.610
the Extreme Weather
Proceedings will continue to
00:51:14.610 --> 00:51:16.530
keep our communities in the dark.
00:51:16.530 --> 00:51:18.525
Extreme Weather and IRP proceedings
00:51:18.525 --> 00:51:23.050
are decisions that California
will be stuck for for decades.
00:51:23.050 --> 00:51:24.460
We cannot keep setting standards
00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:27.311
that stop progress and innovation.
00:51:27.311 --> 00:51:31.260
So today I urge you to
adopt a lower greenhouse
00:51:31.260 --> 00:51:34.510
gas target and the IRP
proceedings and exclude
00:51:34.510 --> 00:51:37.110
new gas procurement in the
Extreme Weather Proceeding
00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:41.420
because some of the main
causes for the outages in August
00:51:41.420 --> 00:51:43.740
like mentioned before, have been fixed.
00:51:43.740 --> 00:51:45.230
Gas plants weren't reliable,
00:51:45.230 --> 00:51:47.700
and there are better alternatives.
00:51:47.700 --> 00:51:51.650
I also urge that greenhouse
gas emissions for the IRPs are
00:51:51.650 --> 00:51:55.700
at or below 38 million metric
tons for greenhouse gas.
00:51:55.700 --> 00:51:58.500
And also to please vote
no on both proceedings
00:51:58.500 --> 00:52:00.850
until they hold, they
uphold the state goals
00:52:00.850 --> 00:52:02.200
for climate justice.
00:52:02.200 --> 00:52:06.054
Thank you.
00:52:06.054 --> 00:52:06.887
Thank you.
00:52:06.887 --> 00:52:08.363
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:13.860
Our next caller
caller is Thomas Hopeck,
00:52:13.860 --> 00:52:14.760
your line is open.
00:52:15.930 --> 00:52:17.552
Thank you.
00:52:17.552 --> 00:52:18.385
My name is Tom Hopeck,
00:52:18.385 --> 00:52:20.470
I'm with the Foundation
for Resilient Societies.
00:52:20.470 --> 00:52:23.880
I am one of the presenters
for the Clean Coalition webinar
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.050
that several of the callers
have already referred to.
00:52:27.050 --> 00:52:30.180
I'd like to make a statement
on agenda item 40,
00:52:30.180 --> 00:52:34.800
expedited capacity
procurement for Summer of 2021.
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:38.220
So I have some questions for
the Commissioners and I hope
00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:40.340
you know the answers to
these questions and that you'll
00:52:40.340 --> 00:52:44.420
be able to address them
during item, agenda item 40.
00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:49.420
So first did the Cal ISO
business rules and PUC tariffs
00:52:49.753 --> 00:52:53.160
enforce financial
accountability for generators'
00:52:53.160 --> 00:52:55.680
forced outages in August, 2020,
00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:57.850
that contributed to blackouts?
00:52:57.850 --> 00:53:01.430
Second, what was the total
amount of financial penalties
00:53:01.430 --> 00:53:04.649
assessed to generators
as a result of the blackouts?
00:53:04.649 --> 00:53:09.050
Third, will the terms of
future California capacity
00:53:09.050 --> 00:53:12.570
contracts, including
prices for generated power,
00:53:12.570 --> 00:53:14.600
be disclosed to the public?
00:53:14.600 --> 00:53:18.610
And finally, during declared
energy emergencies
00:53:18.610 --> 00:53:21.431
will generators who have
been paid for capacity
00:53:21.431 --> 00:53:24.910
be allowed to export
power to other states?
00:53:24.910 --> 00:53:27.620
So again, thank you
for the consideration
00:53:27.620 --> 00:53:28.897
of these questions.
00:53:33.020 --> 00:53:34.020
Thank you.
00:53:34.900 --> 00:53:36.600
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:53:38.660 --> 00:53:41.490
Our next caller
is Dr. Patrick Kearns,
00:53:41.490 --> 00:53:42.340
you may go ahead.
00:53:49.910 --> 00:53:52.393
My mute isn't
working, can I be heard?
00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:55.983
Yes, we can hear you fine.
00:53:58.890 --> 00:53:59.723
Go ahead.
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:06.460
Now we cannot hear you.
00:54:06.460 --> 00:54:09.083
So did you adjust your mute?
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.160
Yeah, it doesn't
work, but now it does.
00:54:13.160 --> 00:54:14.950
Madam President Commissioner,
00:54:14.950 --> 00:54:16.900
I want to acknowledge
the powerful impact
00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:19.690
of the president comments
on pandemic issues
00:54:19.690 --> 00:54:21.747
in which the Commission
groups and staff could help
00:54:21.747 --> 00:54:23.870
and an early vaccine.
00:54:23.870 --> 00:54:25.270
My name is Dr. Patrick Kearns
00:54:25.270 --> 00:54:29.046
and my intent is to present
comments forming the basis
00:54:29.046 --> 00:54:32.690
for South Bay Water
utility rate payers assertion
00:54:32.690 --> 00:54:35.182
that Commission's culture
has been transformed
00:54:35.182 --> 00:54:39.810
to an adversarial pseudo
judicial process, inhibiting
00:54:39.810 --> 00:54:43.198
and engagement of rate
payers in the regulatory process
00:54:43.198 --> 00:54:47.110
due to systematic bias
fording participation
00:54:47.110 --> 00:54:52.110
within the judiciary
administrative judiciary quagmire.
00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:54.680
Did the judiciary
gets a little credibility
00:54:54.680 --> 00:54:57.670
to rate payers value or irrelevant.
00:54:57.670 --> 00:55:00.010
One can look at how the
Commission is represented
00:55:00.010 --> 00:55:03.727
by ALJ official statements,
quote, "In determining
00:55:03.727 --> 00:55:07.257
"whether the grant to grant
rate payers, party status
00:55:07.257 --> 00:55:10.337
"the Commission evaluates
whether such participation
00:55:10.337 --> 00:55:13.096
"as a party would
prejudice other parties.
00:55:13.096 --> 00:55:15.987
"No comparable determination is applied
00:55:15.987 --> 00:55:20.187
"to utilities participation,
prejudicing the rate payers.
00:55:20.187 --> 00:55:21.977
"In the subsequent proceeding,
00:55:21.977 --> 00:55:26.929
the ALJ issued a PD after
the case was submitted.
00:55:26.929 --> 00:55:29.681
The PD approved the settlement.
00:55:29.681 --> 00:55:31.450
The settlement does
not resolve all issues
00:55:31.450 --> 00:55:34.950
between the utility and
intervene a rate payers,
00:55:34.950 --> 00:55:38.010
and the proceeding
remains open to address
00:55:38.010 --> 00:55:39.770
those contested issues.
00:55:39.770 --> 00:55:41.632
The proceeding remains open
00:55:41.632 --> 00:55:44.820
without any new evidence or testimony.
00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:49.037
The ALJ withdrew the
decision and resubmitted a POD.
00:55:49.930 --> 00:55:53.680
The POD approved
settlement between the utility
00:55:53.680 --> 00:55:57.410
and the PAO that resolves
all outstanding issues
00:55:57.410 --> 00:55:58.730
in the proceeding.
00:55:58.730 --> 00:56:00.860
The proceeding is closed.
00:56:00.860 --> 00:56:04.021
No explanation or
justification was given
00:56:04.021 --> 00:56:08.445
or requested on the
approval by the Commission.
00:56:08.445 --> 00:56:13.445
I recommend considering that
the Commission consider inquiry
00:56:13.540 --> 00:56:16.280
into processes
available to give feedback
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.310
on the judiciary's behavior
00:56:19.366 --> 00:56:21.460
with public feedback.
(bell rings)
00:56:21.460 --> 00:56:22.293
Thank you.
00:56:25.870 --> 00:56:26.703
Thank you.
00:56:27.630 --> 00:56:29.330
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:56:31.250 --> 00:56:33.110
Our next
caller is Sarah Hammond,
00:56:33.110 --> 00:56:33.960
you may go ahead.
00:56:40.670 --> 00:56:43.080
Good morning, President
Batjer and Commissioners.
00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:44.220
My name is Tara Hammond,
00:56:44.220 --> 00:56:46.500
I believe that's who being called on,
00:56:46.500 --> 00:56:47.580
so I'm going to speak.
00:56:47.580 --> 00:56:51.470
I'm a San Diego resident
commenting on agenda item 26.
00:56:51.470 --> 00:56:53.810
I helped advocate for
Community Choice Energy
00:56:53.810 --> 00:56:55.970
in San Diego for over nine years.
00:56:55.970 --> 00:56:58.550
Well, we are very excited
San Diego Community Power
00:56:58.550 --> 00:57:00.870
will start serving customers next month,
00:57:00.870 --> 00:57:03.600
we are deeply concerned
with SDG and E's continued
00:57:03.600 --> 00:57:06.590
efforts that will hurt our
Community Choice Energy Program
00:57:06.590 --> 00:57:09.240
presumably to benefit
their shareholders.
00:57:09.240 --> 00:57:12.630
Two months ago STG and E
filed an expedited application
00:57:12.630 --> 00:57:15.140
and requested authority
to amortize the recovery
00:57:15.140 --> 00:57:17.820
of era under collections over 10 months,
00:57:17.820 --> 00:57:19.500
and the CCA party has supported
00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:21.910
the 10-month amortization period.
00:57:21.910 --> 00:57:24.090
The parties went out of their
way to accommodate SDG
00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:27.410
and E's need for work
and expedited proceeding.
00:57:27.410 --> 00:57:29.690
Well, I'm not surprised that
two and a half weeks ago
00:57:29.690 --> 00:57:33.340
SDG and E discarded the
cooperation and pulled the bait
00:57:33.340 --> 00:57:36.830
and switch, proposing
alternatives 22 months amortization
00:57:36.830 --> 00:57:38.540
and its opening brief.
00:57:38.540 --> 00:57:40.660
And it's concerting that
the Commission claims
00:57:40.660 --> 00:57:42.410
that no evidence has been presented
00:57:42.410 --> 00:57:44.410
of any significant adverse effects
00:57:44.410 --> 00:57:46.970
from the 22-month amortization
00:57:46.970 --> 00:57:48.410
since there was not an opportunity
00:57:48.410 --> 00:57:50.930
for the parties to
investigate the proposal
00:57:50.930 --> 00:57:53.673
and prevent present evidence against it.
00:57:53.673 --> 00:57:56.482
The CPUC's decisions must be based
00:57:56.482 --> 00:57:59.320
on record evidence that
parties have had notice
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.420
and the opportunity to
rebut, which did not occur
00:58:02.420 --> 00:58:05.920
with a 22-month
amortization period proposal.
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.730
In addition to the legal shortcomings
00:58:07.730 --> 00:58:09.935
and foul play from SPG and E's action
00:58:09.935 --> 00:58:13.110
the proposed decision
adopts that your regular
00:58:13.110 --> 00:58:15.860
and new proposal, without
a word of disapproval
00:58:15.860 --> 00:58:18.210
this would set a dangerous precedent.
00:58:18.210 --> 00:58:20.180
The Commission's obligation to set just
00:58:20.180 --> 00:58:22.310
and reasonable rates
does not repair the lack
00:58:22.310 --> 00:58:23.910
of substantial evidence supporting
00:58:23.910 --> 00:58:26.370
the proposed decision's conclusion.
00:58:26.370 --> 00:58:28.860
I ask that you please reject
the current proposed decision
00:58:28.860 --> 00:58:31.780
and revise it to instead
adopt a 10-month
00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:35.070
amortization period, which
has a basis in the record.
00:58:35.070 --> 00:58:35.903
Thank you.
00:58:38.070 --> 00:58:39.750
Thank you for your call.
00:58:39.750 --> 00:58:41.250
Operator, next caller, please.
00:58:44.230 --> 00:58:47.660
Our next
caller is Clara Haler.
00:58:47.660 --> 00:58:50.513
Kind of like, but it
doesn't like beep for you?
00:58:51.425 --> 00:58:52.900
So I'm like, I'm assuming that's me
00:58:57.950 --> 00:59:00.930
Operator, can you
bring on the next caller?
00:59:00.930 --> 00:59:03.583
I think we had a misstep there.
00:59:05.720 --> 00:59:07.223
Hello, operator?
00:59:13.140 --> 00:59:14.090
President Batjer,
00:59:14.090 --> 00:59:16.023
our next speaker is Tony Alfaro.
00:59:16.890 --> 00:59:17.723
Thanks Robert.
00:59:21.041 --> 00:59:24.967
Hello, Hello?
00:59:24.967 --> 00:59:27.130
Go ahead, go ahead,
we can hear you.
00:59:27.130 --> 00:59:28.740
Please, please go ahead.
00:59:28.740 --> 00:59:30.390
Sorry, sorry about that.
00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:32.979
Good morning.
00:59:32.979 --> 00:59:35.310
My name is Tony Alfaro, I
live in Escondido, California.
00:59:35.310 --> 00:59:40.310
I'm calling today to urge CPUC
to number one, keep a Rooftop
00:59:41.080 --> 00:59:44.210
solar and battery
storage going in California
00:59:44.210 --> 00:59:49.210
not slow down the
Rooftop, solar net metering.
00:59:49.870 --> 00:59:51.910
This is an incentive
for all solar users.
00:59:51.910 --> 00:59:53.380
It's a win-win for everyone
00:59:53.380 --> 00:59:56.240
except for the greedy utility companies.
00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:58.290
Keep net metering.
00:59:58.290 --> 01:00:00.720
Also, strengthen net metering,
01:00:00.720 --> 01:00:03.380
so that millions more
Californians can make, store,
01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:05.470
and share solar energy.
01:00:05.470 --> 01:00:06.970
There is a strength in numbers
01:00:06.970 --> 01:00:10.120
and if California does
not support solar solutions
01:00:10.120 --> 01:00:12.670
the whole effort will fail.
01:00:12.670 --> 01:00:16.320
Promoting local solar
saves everyone money;
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.840
Rich, poor, middle-class,
renter, homeowner, schools,
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:24.440
whether they have solar
or not, increasing utility bills,
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:28.400
climate change, and power
outages affect everyone,
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:32.910
especially middle and
lower class income people.
01:00:32.910 --> 01:00:36.030
Rooftop Solar and battery
storage is already helping middle
01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:37.170
and lower income people,
01:00:37.170 --> 01:00:39.940
including vendors, schools,
farmers, small businesses
01:00:39.940 --> 01:00:43.570
in controlling their energy
bills, keeping the lights
01:00:43.570 --> 01:00:46.650
on, and reducing our
reliance on fossil fuels.
01:00:46.650 --> 01:00:49.980
Rooftop Solar is also reducing the cost
01:00:49.980 --> 01:00:52.250
of maintaining long distance power lines
01:00:52.250 --> 01:00:54.960
which saves all taxpayers money.
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.890
We should keep
strengthening net metering
01:00:56.890 --> 01:00:59.540
so it helps millions more
Californians get solar
01:00:59.540 --> 01:01:01.270
and battery storage.
01:01:01.270 --> 01:01:04.330
I also understand that
today the utilities are
01:01:04.330 --> 01:01:07.650
using their insider
connections to derail aspects
01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:11.880
of the net metering process
that we, that they don't like.
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:16.730
Please resist these
efforts by utilities to do so
01:01:16.730 --> 01:01:21.300
and continue the proceedings
as has been proposed to you.
01:01:21.300 --> 01:01:23.500
Thank you for your
attention to this matter.
01:01:25.970 --> 01:01:27.270
Thank you for your call.
01:01:28.260 --> 01:01:29.960
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:01:32.822 --> 01:01:34.420
Our next
caller is Gabriel Gosman,
01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:35.270
you may go ahead.
01:01:37.250 --> 01:01:40.563
Hello, yes,
can you hear me?
01:01:42.630 --> 01:01:44.633
We can hear you
fine, please continue.
01:01:45.550 --> 01:01:48.439
Yeah, so as many
people have already said
01:01:48.439 --> 01:01:53.439
on the call, I'm, you know,
very much against item 40.
01:01:57.690 --> 01:01:59.620
We need to, first of all need
01:01:59.620 --> 01:02:03.320
to have lower emissions
targets and stop burning gas.
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:07.243
As you know, there's
mentioned in the Clean Coalition,
01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:12.310
the blackouts are not
caused it all by lack of power.
01:02:12.310 --> 01:02:15.210
There is both, you know, capacity
01:02:15.210 --> 01:02:20.113
within California that was
exported, that was shut off,
01:02:21.080 --> 01:02:22.800
or it was under maintenance
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:24.750
even though it was pretty
obvious that, you know
01:02:24.750 --> 01:02:29.020
the peak summer time
would be a need for capacity.
01:02:29.020 --> 01:02:32.260
So we do not need any
more fossil fuel capacity
01:02:32.260 --> 01:02:36.273
when it comes to, I think it's item 16,
01:02:36.273 --> 01:02:41.273
the emissions higher a P
levels are much too high
01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:45.430
at 38 for 2030.
01:02:45.430 --> 01:02:49.790
That's a percentage
reduction, much lower, you know
01:02:49.790 --> 01:02:51.360
in terms of decline in emissions
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.497
then we've seen in the last decade.
01:02:53.497 --> 01:02:57.115
So we can be much more
ambitious as we had the technology
01:02:57.115 --> 01:03:00.240
except to make the investments, you know
01:03:00.240 --> 01:03:05.240
and we have to move forward,
you know, and we, and also
01:03:05.560 --> 01:03:08.480
as we all know, climate
change is upon us
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:10.942
and is going to be
catastrophic and we need to
01:03:10.942 --> 01:03:12.540
move forward with, you
know, renewable solutions
01:03:12.540 --> 01:03:16.100
and resilient solutions
instead of just relying
01:03:16.100 --> 01:03:19.200
on the same transmission
system that's causing a lot
01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:23.430
of these fires and the
same fossil fuel generation
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.590
that's causing climate change.
01:03:27.590 --> 01:03:30.330
And frankly, as you could
see with part of the blackout is
01:03:30.330 --> 01:03:35.080
that fossil fuels and heat
waves are completely unreliable.
01:03:35.080 --> 01:03:36.760
And, and can, we can't even rely
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:41.340
on them for powers more
fossil fuels still puts us
01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:43.223
at risk for further blackouts.
01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:48.240
And then we need to also
01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:51.203
so we really need to do
in-depth in transmission lines.
01:03:52.974 --> 01:03:53.887
(bell rings)
Thank you.
01:03:56.489 --> 01:03:57.924
Thank you.
01:03:57.924 --> 01:03:59.553
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:04:01.515 --> 01:04:03.750
The next caller
is Carolyn Schofield.
01:04:03.750 --> 01:04:04.650
Your line is open.
01:04:06.230 --> 01:04:07.620
Good morning,
Commissioners.
01:04:07.620 --> 01:04:09.980
Thank you for this opportunity to speak.
01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:12.180
My name is Carolyn Schofield.
01:04:12.180 --> 01:04:13.480
I'm a climate advocate
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.710
and utilities rate
payer from Chula Vista.
01:04:16.710 --> 01:04:19.860
Chula Vista is one of
five cities eagerly awaiting
01:04:19.860 --> 01:04:23.460
the phase one rollout of
San Diego Community Power
01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:24.593
just next month.
01:04:25.500 --> 01:04:29.080
And speaking in opposition
to the proposed decision
01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:31.280
for agenda item number 26,
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:34.701
recovery of 2020 era under collections.
01:04:34.701 --> 01:04:38.590
I would like to respectfully
ask you to reject the 2020
01:04:38.590 --> 01:04:42.590
the 22-month amortization
that was recently proposed
01:04:42.590 --> 01:04:47.420
by SDG and E and revise it
to adopt the original request
01:04:47.420 --> 01:04:51.412
for a 10-month amortization period.
01:04:51.412 --> 01:04:54.030
10 months ago, San
Diego Gas and Electric
01:04:54.030 --> 01:04:57.010
filed an expedited
application to recover
01:04:57.010 --> 01:05:01.120
the 2020 era through a
10-month amortization
01:05:01.120 --> 01:05:03.120
and San Diego Community Power
01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:06.557
and Clean Energy Alliance
worked with San Diego Gas
01:05:06.557 --> 01:05:09.675
and Electric and supported
the 10-month period.
01:05:09.675 --> 01:05:12.310
Now, only two and a half weeks ago
01:05:12.310 --> 01:05:17.236
SDG and E proposed an
alternative 22 months amortization.
01:05:17.236 --> 01:05:20.060
The proceedings left the two CCAs
01:05:20.060 --> 01:05:22.970
no opportunity to
investigate the proposal
01:05:22.970 --> 01:05:25.140
or present evidence.
01:05:25.140 --> 01:05:27.960
Despite lack of evidence from SDG and E
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:32.810
about how PCI eight charges
could impact CCA customers
01:05:32.810 --> 01:05:35.340
with the new schedule and lack
01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:39.520
of opportunity for CCA to
gather evidence and respond,
01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:41.833
the proposed decision was accepted.
01:05:42.741 --> 01:05:47.741
Electricity rates for over
700,000 accounts are at stake.
01:05:48.370 --> 01:05:52.240
We support the decision that
was already made, but one based
01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:56.170
on clear negotiations at
the table, equal opportunities
01:05:56.170 --> 01:06:01.003
for both CCA and SDG
and E to prepare evidence,
01:06:02.100 --> 01:06:03.380
is that accurate data
01:06:03.380 --> 01:06:06.800
and create decisions
that we can all live with.
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:08.593
Thank you for your consideration.
01:06:12.695 --> 01:06:13.600
Thank you for your call.
01:06:13.600 --> 01:06:15.300
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:19.730
Our next
caller is Alma Marquez,
01:06:19.730 --> 01:06:21.149
you may go ahead.
01:06:21.149 --> 01:06:23.732
Oh, I'm next, hold on.
01:06:25.610 --> 01:06:26.560
Good afternoon.
01:06:26.560 --> 01:06:29.044
Good morning, my name
is Alma Marquez and I am
01:06:29.044 --> 01:06:32.900
I was born and raised
in LA and I've worked
01:06:32.900 --> 01:06:36.550
in the Inland Valley
and I also do some work
01:06:36.550 --> 01:06:40.380
in Orange County, long-term
resident of Los Angeles.
01:06:40.380 --> 01:06:42.700
And I work in the community.
01:06:42.700 --> 01:06:45.211
I live in Downey.
01:06:45.211 --> 01:06:48.160
California is a leader
on solving climate change
01:06:48.160 --> 01:06:49.680
with legislation to move us away
01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:52.480
from fossil fuels and it's been a leader
01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:55.170
and I truly believe that we
can make the best decisions
01:06:55.170 --> 01:06:58.880
as Commissioners this morning, to really
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.240
make a difference in
what we're trying to do here
01:07:01.240 --> 01:07:04.890
in California and be a leader
for the rest of the nation.
01:07:04.890 --> 01:07:07.580
That's why I'm asking the
CPUC to adopt the lower
01:07:07.580 --> 01:07:10.620
greenhouse gas target
in that IRP proceeding
01:07:10.620 --> 01:07:15.461
at or below 38 MMT,
and exclude any new gas
01:07:15.461 --> 01:07:18.060
procurement and Extreme
Weather Proceedings, because some
01:07:18.060 --> 01:07:20.210
of the main causes for
the August outages have
01:07:20.210 --> 01:07:22.130
been fixed, gas plants weren't reliable,
01:07:22.130 --> 01:07:24.248
and there are better alternatives.
01:07:24.248 --> 01:07:28.140
As a mother of three children
and as an executive director
01:07:28.140 --> 01:07:30.750
of an environmental
justice organization,
01:07:30.750 --> 01:07:32.240
I truly see the differences
01:07:32.240 --> 01:07:34.910
in the air quality that
I breathe every day.
01:07:34.910 --> 01:07:36.670
And I am here because I care
01:07:36.670 --> 01:07:39.430
about our generation,
future generations to come,
01:07:39.430 --> 01:07:41.250
my children, and their children.
01:07:41.250 --> 01:07:42.701
And I truly see myself
01:07:42.701 --> 01:07:45.810
as an advocate for creating
these systemic changes
01:07:45.810 --> 01:07:48.365
and I urge you to make
the right decisions and
01:07:48.365 --> 01:07:53.365
and eliminate of these
IRP emissions into the air.
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:55.753
Thank you.
01:08:00.090 --> 01:08:01.290
Thank you.
01:08:01.290 --> 01:08:02.790
Operator, next caller, please.
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.050
Our next caller
is Alejandro Montez,
01:08:08.050 --> 01:08:09.150
sir, you may go ahead.
01:08:10.870 --> 01:08:12.830
Hi, good
evening Commissioners.
01:08:12.830 --> 01:08:16.370
My name is Alejandra
Montez, I in the Inland Empire
01:08:16.370 --> 01:08:17.760
and I'm the co-founder of Insights
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:19.460
Sustainability Southern California
01:08:20.347 --> 01:08:21.220
and environmental
organization with eight-plus
01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:24.520
members in San Diego,
Riverside, San Bernardino,
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:26.750
Orange, and Los Angeles counties.
01:08:26.750 --> 01:08:28.700
I'm here to convey our members' demands
01:08:28.700 --> 01:08:30.733
in regards to item 40,
01:08:32.440 --> 01:08:35.440
which is essentially
that the CPUC adopt 30
01:08:35.440 --> 01:08:38.069
million metric ton
emissions reduction target.
01:08:38.069 --> 01:08:40.880
My own activism started
almost 10 years ago
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.382
ensuring that sources like
San Onofre Nuclear Station,
01:08:44.382 --> 01:08:48.087
Atawana Generating
Station, and others were retired
01:08:48.087 --> 01:08:51.400
and replaced by renewable sources
01:08:51.400 --> 01:08:54.310
of energy because having gas fire plants
01:08:54.310 --> 01:08:57.132
and gas infrastructure
in our communities result
01:08:57.132 --> 01:08:59.954
in the disparate healthy
health outcomes we see today.
01:08:59.954 --> 01:09:02.890
These investor owned
utilities have consistently
01:09:02.890 --> 01:09:05.080
been sadistic cynical gatekeepers
01:09:05.080 --> 01:09:07.030
of thought the fossil fuel paradigm
01:09:07.030 --> 01:09:08.570
in California seeking the
01:09:08.570 --> 01:09:11.490
for every strategy our
communities proposed to
01:09:11.490 --> 01:09:14.330
make meaningful action
fighting climate change
01:09:14.330 --> 01:09:18.240
and aggressively reducing
lethal air pollutions,
01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:21.990
our community lethal air
pollutions our communities face.
01:09:21.990 --> 01:09:24.440
The utilities don't give
a crap about repairs
01:09:24.440 --> 01:09:25.880
and that's why we need your help
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.370
in retiring 2,000 megawatts
of existing gas power.
01:09:29.370 --> 01:09:31.910
Our community members
have been dying in droves,
01:09:31.910 --> 01:09:34.810
asphyxiated by COVID-19, wildfires,
01:09:34.810 --> 01:09:37.280
and horrible air quality
from mobile sources
01:09:37.280 --> 01:09:39.300
like transportation
and non-mobile sources
01:09:39.300 --> 01:09:40.970
like gas power plants.
01:09:40.970 --> 01:09:43.388
It's really the twilight hours
01:09:43.388 --> 01:09:47.120
of reducing emissions
to stay under 1.5 Celsius
01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:50.700
of global warming and
providing tangible relief
01:09:50.700 --> 01:09:52.950
for environmental justice communities.
01:09:52.950 --> 01:09:55.990
It is absolutely irresponsible
to make any reductions less
01:09:55.990 --> 01:09:57.970
than 38 million metric tons.
01:09:57.970 --> 01:10:01.000
Please reject item 40.
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:01.833
Thank you.
01:10:04.700 --> 01:10:06.350
Thank you for your call.
01:10:06.350 --> 01:10:08.050
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:10:10.780 --> 01:10:13.080
Our next
caller is Lillia Oluway,
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:16.690
you may go ahead.
01:10:30.900 --> 01:10:31.890
I appreciate this time.
01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:33.140
My name is Lillia Oluway.
01:10:37.650 --> 01:10:39.673
I'm here to ask that number one,
01:10:42.050 --> 01:10:46.080
I ask that you adopt
those type of gas of IRP.
01:10:46.080 --> 01:10:49.890
And also also, I want you
to adopt the number 38
01:10:50.870 --> 01:10:54.160
and/or I want you to do something
01:10:57.570 --> 01:11:00.840
about the extreme gas
because of what happened.
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:01.900
And a lot of...
01:11:23.290 --> 01:11:25.240
Sorry, just getting some clarification.
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:36.163
I live in Inland Empire.
01:11:38.010 --> 01:11:42.690
I'm here to ask that
you adopt alternative gas
01:11:48.050 --> 01:11:53.050
under the booklet of IRP
and also also number 38,
01:11:53.310 --> 01:11:58.310
MMT, and number six,
exclude of extreme, yeah,
01:12:04.790 --> 01:12:08.018
because one of the major (indistinct)
01:12:08.018 --> 01:12:10.360
in August has not been resolved.
01:12:10.360 --> 01:12:12.980
There are better
alternative than power plants.
01:12:12.980 --> 01:12:14.180
Thank you for your time.
01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:20.220
Thank you for your call.
01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:22.053
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:27.103
Our next caller
is Matthew Mosalakis,
01:12:29.366 --> 01:12:30.199
your line is open.
01:12:32.050 --> 01:12:32.920
Good
morning Commissioners.
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.560
My name is Matthew
Mosalakis, Co-Director of Policy
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:37.850
at Climate Action
Campaign, a San Diego-based
01:12:37.850 --> 01:12:40.740
nonprofit fighting to
stop the climate crisis
01:12:40.740 --> 01:12:42.450
dialing in to express our disappointment
01:12:42.450 --> 01:12:44.970
and concern over agenda item 26.
01:12:44.970 --> 01:12:48.231
SDG and E's proposed
22-months amortization.
01:12:48.231 --> 01:12:51.160
Two months ago, there was
an agreed upon understanding
01:12:51.160 --> 01:12:53.660
that SDG and E would
amortize the recovery
01:12:53.660 --> 01:12:56.153
of bureau under
collection over 10 months.
01:12:58.030 --> 01:12:58.863
All right.
01:13:00.630 --> 01:13:03.356
Which the CCA's party supported.
01:13:03.356 --> 01:13:05.010
Now, just two weeks later,
01:13:05.010 --> 01:13:07.293
we find ourselves with SDG and E's
01:13:07.293 --> 01:13:08.270
surprise alternative proposal
01:13:08.270 --> 01:13:10.400
and the CCA parties
were given no time to
01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:12.407
investigate to counter.
01:13:12.407 --> 01:13:14.607
FSDJ's proposed decision is to prove
01:13:14.607 --> 01:13:17.270
the CPUC will set a dangerous precedent
01:13:17.270 --> 01:13:20.300
by not allowing an
opportunity for parties to review.
01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:22.780
These, this unfairness by SDG and E
01:13:22.780 --> 01:13:24.870
is unfortunately not
surprising, however.
01:13:24.870 --> 01:13:26.990
San Diegans pay the highest energy bills
01:13:26.990 --> 01:13:29.690
in the continental United
States, not by accident,
01:13:29.690 --> 01:13:31.890
but by design, from working families
01:13:31.890 --> 01:13:34.150
and communities of
color first and worst.
01:13:34.150 --> 01:13:37.050
We recommend the CPC reject
the current proposed decision
01:13:37.050 --> 01:13:40.351
and revise it to the original
10-month amortization period
01:13:40.351 --> 01:13:42.550
which has the basis and the record.
01:13:42.550 --> 01:13:43.383
Thank you.
01:13:45.250 --> 01:13:46.550
Thank you for your call.
01:13:47.610 --> 01:13:49.310
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:13:51.190 --> 01:13:53.740
Our next caller is
Laura Rosenberger Hyder,
01:13:53.740 --> 01:13:54.590
you may go ahead.
01:14:01.356 --> 01:14:03.840
I probably say number 40
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:06.730
because I think the real
cause of the blackout
01:14:06.730 --> 01:14:09.540
was not the lack of power.
01:14:09.540 --> 01:14:10.373
You hearing me?
01:14:12.770 --> 01:14:14.750
Yes, we are, we can hear you.
01:14:14.750 --> 01:14:16.370
You can hear
me, all right, that's good.
01:14:16.370 --> 01:14:21.210
I think it's the export of
power and computer glitches.
01:14:21.210 --> 01:14:24.930
I have instead have people volunteer
01:14:24.930 --> 01:14:26.780
if they want to have
their power shut off
01:14:26.780 --> 01:14:31.340
during a time when the power,
we don't have enough power
01:14:31.340 --> 01:14:34.060
they can volunteer to
have the power shut off
01:14:34.060 --> 01:14:36.090
and sign up for it in advance,
01:14:36.090 --> 01:14:39.313
so she shouldn't have to
procure any extra power.
01:14:40.980 --> 01:14:42.773
All right, thanks.
01:14:46.207 --> 01:14:47.040
Thank you.
01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:48.730
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:14:50.300 --> 01:14:52.550
Our next
caller is Brianna McGuire,
01:14:52.550 --> 01:14:53.400
you may go ahead.
01:14:54.780 --> 01:14:56.163
Hi there folks
01:14:56.163 --> 01:14:57.210
and thank you for the
opportunity to comment today.
01:14:57.210 --> 01:14:58.480
My name is Brianna McGuire
01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:01.060
and I'd like to call it item 16 and 40.
01:15:01.060 --> 01:15:02.350
I'd like to speak in favor
01:15:02.350 --> 01:15:06.200
of the 38 million metric ton
greenhouse gas target for 2031.
01:15:06.200 --> 01:15:09.130
So ideally that would be
even lower and please vote
01:15:09.130 --> 01:15:11.470
for any option that allows
you to adequately plan
01:15:11.470 --> 01:15:14.220
for offer when its
transmission needs offer winds
01:15:14.220 --> 01:15:17.010
will undoubtedly be a part of
our renewable energy future
01:15:17.010 --> 01:15:18.610
and we should be
planning our infrastructure to
01:15:18.610 --> 01:15:19.960
accommodate it.
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:21.563
And also please reject investor
01:15:21.563 --> 01:15:23.240
and utility buying
more fossil fuel energy
01:15:23.240 --> 01:15:24.410
as a part of that UWP.
01:15:24.410 --> 01:15:25.393
Thank you so much.
01:15:28.118 --> 01:15:29.070
Thank you for your call.
01:15:29.070 --> 01:15:30.770
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:15:32.970 --> 01:15:34.863
And our next
caller is Faraz Rizzy,
01:15:36.430 --> 01:15:37.280
you may go ahead.
01:15:40.070 --> 01:15:41.803
All right,
can y'all hear me?
01:15:43.870 --> 01:15:45.210
Hello?
01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:47.360
Yes, we can hear
you fine, thank you.
01:15:47.360 --> 01:15:48.799
Go ahead.
01:15:48.799 --> 01:15:49.632
Sorry, just making sure.
01:15:49.632 --> 01:15:50.890
Hello. My name is Faraz and I'm speaking
01:15:50.890 --> 01:15:54.650
on the IRP and Emergency
Reliability Proceeding,
01:15:54.650 --> 01:15:56.290
and I'm calling from the Inland Empire,
01:15:56.290 --> 01:15:57.980
an area that has
some of the dirtiest air
01:15:57.980 --> 01:16:00.946
in the country because of
emissions from dirty fossil fuels.
01:16:00.946 --> 01:16:02.920
These emissions are polluting our lungs
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:04.700
and causing immense
long-term health problems
01:16:04.700 --> 01:16:05.830
for our community.
01:16:05.830 --> 01:16:08.260
Right now we're looking down
the barrel of a climate crisis.
01:16:08.260 --> 01:16:11.301
We need bold action to mitigate
the harmful effects to come.
01:16:11.301 --> 01:16:12.570
And this is why I'm calling
01:16:12.570 --> 01:16:15.590
on our board to adopt a
lower greenhouse gas target
01:16:15.590 --> 01:16:17.710
and the IRP proceedings at or
01:16:17.710 --> 01:16:20.907
below 38 MMT, and exclude
any new gas procurement
01:16:20.907 --> 01:16:23.140
in the Extreme Weather
Proceeding because some
01:16:23.140 --> 01:16:26.650
of the main causes for the
August outages have been fixed.
01:16:26.650 --> 01:16:28.000
Gas plants are not reliable
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.340
and they're way better alternatives,
01:16:29.340 --> 01:16:32.160
and we need to invest in
renewable energy if we need
01:16:32.160 --> 01:16:35.545
if we can see if we want any
action on the climate crisis.
01:16:35.545 --> 01:16:36.378
Thank you.
01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:40.610
Thank you for your call.
01:16:40.610 --> 01:16:42.393
Operator, the next caller, please.
01:16:47.940 --> 01:16:48.810
And President
Batjer, at this time,
01:16:48.810 --> 01:16:50.510
there are no more public comments.
01:16:51.830 --> 01:16:53.013
Okay, thank you.
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.690
With no more callers on the line,
01:17:01.690 --> 01:17:04.593
the public comment period is now closed.
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:09.433
Okay, moving on on our agenda.
01:17:12.330 --> 01:17:15.493
Let me announce the
changes to the agenda today.
01:17:16.480 --> 01:17:18.273
These are the following changes.
01:17:19.290 --> 01:17:22.970
Item six will be withdrawn
or has been withdrawn.
01:17:22.970 --> 01:17:25.200
Item 11 will be held
01:17:25.200 --> 01:17:30.200
until the Commission
meeting on March 4th, 2021.
01:17:30.550 --> 01:17:35.050
Item 16 will be taken up
today with the regular agenda.
01:17:35.050 --> 01:17:39.900
Item 17 will be taken up
with the regular agenda today,
01:17:39.900 --> 01:17:43.840
and item 42 will be held
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:47.083
until the March 4th, 2021
Commission Meeting.
01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:54.830
Okay, we'll now take
up the consent items.
01:17:54.830 --> 01:17:55.993
Is there a motion?
01:17:58.170 --> 01:17:59.870
So moved.
So moved.
01:17:59.870 --> 01:18:00.853
And a second?
01:18:04.210 --> 01:18:05.313
Martha?
I second.
01:18:06.483 --> 01:18:08.730
It's been moved and seconded.
01:18:08.730 --> 01:18:10.674
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll
01:18:10.674 --> 01:18:12.613
on the Consent Agenda?
01:18:13.780 --> 01:18:15.640
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:16.699
Aye.
01:18:16.699 --> 01:18:18.597
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:18:20.020 --> 01:18:20.853
Aye
01:18:21.740 --> 01:18:24.061
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:18:24.061 --> 01:18:25.629
Yes.
01:18:25.629 --> 01:18:27.179
President Batjer?
01:18:27.179 --> 01:18:28.230
Yes.
01:18:28.230 --> 01:18:31.310
The Consent Agenda items
have been passed unanimously.
01:18:31.310 --> 01:18:32.450
Thank you.
01:18:32.450 --> 01:18:34.300
Commissioner Rechtschaffen as well
01:18:34.300 --> 01:18:37.540
as Commissioner Guzman
Aceves have some comments.
01:18:37.540 --> 01:18:38.450
Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
01:18:38.450 --> 01:18:41.283
would you like to make
your remarks item five?
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:44.570
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:18:44.570 --> 01:18:48.821
In item five, we adopted
a resolution establishing
01:18:48.821 --> 01:18:53.821
a citation program in the
event that T-Mobile fails
01:18:54.090 --> 01:18:58.560
to comply with the conditions
of approval that we imposed
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:03.390
when we approved the
T-Mobile/Sprint merger last year.
01:19:03.390 --> 01:19:05.870
The conditions include
standard of standards
01:19:05.870 --> 01:19:10.870
of service for things like speed
service, coverage, new jobs
01:19:11.314 --> 01:19:13.180
to the state, lifeline
enrollment, and much
01:19:13.180 --> 01:19:17.772
more I'm sure folks are
familiar with those conditions.
01:19:17.772 --> 01:19:21.850
That citation program
establishes penalties in
01:19:21.850 --> 01:19:25.130
the event that T-Mobile fails
01:19:25.130 --> 01:19:28.740
to comply that are substantial
and that's intentional.
01:19:28.740 --> 01:19:31.020
The penalties are designed to act
01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:36.020
as a strong deterrent to
not meeting the conditions
01:19:36.780 --> 01:19:39.089
and in particular,
and this is important,
01:19:39.089 --> 01:19:42.570
they're designed to send a strong signal
01:19:42.570 --> 01:19:46.450
that we expect T-Mobile
to comply fully and not
01:19:46.450 --> 01:19:49.040
just come close to meeting
the requirements of the order.
01:19:49.040 --> 01:19:51.580
There there's somethings
that can be done easily,
01:19:51.580 --> 01:19:53.410
there's others that
require more effort to
01:19:53.410 --> 01:19:55.060
get the full compliance
01:19:55.060 --> 01:19:57.760
and the penalties we've
established reflect that
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.386
that we expect full compliance.
01:20:00.386 --> 01:20:03.880
As required by the decision,
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:08.880
we have hired a monitor to
evaluate T-Mobile's compliance
01:20:10.190 --> 01:20:12.910
and recommend whether
any citations should be issued
01:20:12.910 --> 01:20:15.420
by our communications division.
01:20:15.420 --> 01:20:17.910
And that's that's Dr. Douglas Thicker,
01:20:17.910 --> 01:20:19.740
our Senior Associate Dean
01:20:19.740 --> 01:20:23.640
and Professor at the
University of Colorado, Denver.
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:24.473
Thank you.
01:20:26.990 --> 01:20:28.620
Thank you, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen,
01:20:28.620 --> 01:20:30.649
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:20:30.649 --> 01:20:32.590
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:20:32.590 --> 01:20:35.410
I wanted to speak to item 14
01:20:35.410 --> 01:20:39.611
and to acknowledge concerning
letters that we received
01:20:39.611 --> 01:20:42.700
from the utilities
yesterday regarding the net
01:20:42.700 --> 01:20:47.195
metering principles PD,
that was just adopted.
01:20:47.195 --> 01:20:51.160
The issue about all
the applicable cost tests
01:20:51.160 --> 01:20:54.173
was actually fully addressed
in, in the comments
01:20:54.173 --> 01:20:57.820
as we developed the original PD,
01:20:57.820 --> 01:21:00.650
and the revisions that
were made actually
01:21:00.650 --> 01:21:04.400
made no substantive
change to that original PD.
01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:07.540
Nevertheless, I did want
to address their critique
01:21:07.540 --> 01:21:10.780
and reassure them that
while the total resource
01:21:10.780 --> 01:21:14.980
cost test will be
considered the primary test,
01:21:14.980 --> 01:21:18.060
the decision also requires the use
01:21:18.060 --> 01:21:20.620
of a rate payer impact measure test
01:21:20.620 --> 01:21:23.263
and as well as the
participant cost tests.
01:21:24.140 --> 01:21:27.070
We, and just, again,
we absolutely need to
01:21:27.070 --> 01:21:30.490
know the rate payer
impact measure of any
01:21:30.490 --> 01:21:33.800
of the proposed tariffs that
are going to be analyzed.
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:38.360
It's a critical and foundational
component of our analysis.
01:21:38.360 --> 01:21:42.660
And just want to
clarify that any new sort
01:21:42.660 --> 01:21:46.000
of interpretation, otherwise
it is simply not true,
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.680
and we need to have the
RIN test in our analysis.
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:51.490
So thank you, President Batjer
01:21:51.490 --> 01:21:53.770
for letting me reiterate our commitment
01:21:53.770 --> 01:21:55.543
to utilizing that test as well.
01:21:56.790 --> 01:21:57.680
Very helpful.
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.237
Thank you, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:22:01.731 --> 01:22:05.170
We're going to take just
a little stretch of the legs
01:22:05.170 --> 01:22:10.170
a break here, for 10
minutes before we move on
01:22:10.450 --> 01:22:13.220
into the regular agenda items.
01:22:13.220 --> 01:22:14.701
A 10-minute break, please.
01:22:14.701 --> 01:22:18.163
So please be back at 11:35.
01:22:22.286 --> 01:22:23.953
Okay, thank you all.
01:22:24.948 --> 01:22:28.115
(instrumental music)
01:22:43.636 --> 01:22:44.690
Okay, thank you.
01:22:44.690 --> 01:22:46.560
We need to establish a quorum,
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:48.753
will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
01:22:50.500 --> 01:22:51.995
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:22:51.995 --> 01:22:53.650
Present.
01:22:53.650 --> 01:22:56.032
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:22:56.032 --> 01:22:57.563
Present.
01:22:57.563 --> 01:22:59.499
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:22:59.499 --> 01:23:01.086
Present.
01:23:01.086 --> 01:23:02.740
President Batjer?
01:23:02.740 --> 01:23:03.800
Here.
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:05.490
We have established a quorum.
01:23:05.490 --> 01:23:06.430
Thank you.
01:23:06.430 --> 01:23:09.660
We will now take up
the regular agenda items.
01:23:09.660 --> 01:23:11.030
We're going to take a few items
01:23:11.030 --> 01:23:14.003
out of the regular order today.
01:23:15.670 --> 01:23:20.670
So there's, let's see,
I'm going to begin
01:23:21.340 --> 01:23:26.340
with item 17 and then
we will go to item 41.
01:23:28.030 --> 01:23:31.540
We will not take a vote
on 17 before we go to 41.
01:23:31.540 --> 01:23:35.120
When we're finished with
item 41, we will vote separately
01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:40.120
on each item 17 and then
item 41, perfectly clear.
01:23:41.020 --> 01:23:42.450
Okay.
01:23:42.450 --> 01:23:45.240
With that, item 17 I'm going to turn
01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:47.512
to Executive Director Peterson.
01:23:47.512 --> 01:23:50.513
Rachel, could you
please present this item?
01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:57.893
Yes, good morning, President
Batjer and Commissioners.
01:23:57.893 --> 01:24:01.000
Rachel Peterson, Executive Director
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.900
of the California Public
Utilities Commission.
01:24:03.900 --> 01:24:07.440
And I'm very pleased to
present draft resolution
01:24:07.440 --> 01:24:09.983
M-4849 today.
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.700
This resolution directs utilities
01:24:13.700 --> 01:24:17.130
serving Californians
with electricity, gas, water,
01:24:17.130 --> 01:24:21.130
and telecommunications
to extend certain customer
01:24:21.130 --> 01:24:25.090
productions until June 30th, 2021.
01:24:25.090 --> 01:24:28.100
These are protections
that CPUC's staff developed
01:24:28.100 --> 01:24:29.650
and you first approved
01:24:29.650 --> 01:24:33.420
in the first month of
the pandemic in 2020,
01:24:33.420 --> 01:24:36.450
because even then we
could see the severe economic
01:24:36.450 --> 01:24:39.920
impact that COVID-19
was already happening,
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.140
already having, excuse me.
01:24:42.140 --> 01:24:43.333
First slide, please.
01:24:47.070 --> 01:24:49.970
Here, we list some of
the economic conditions
01:24:49.970 --> 01:24:53.500
that California is
continuing to experience.
01:24:53.500 --> 01:24:56.040
It was only a little over two weeks ago
01:24:56.040 --> 01:24:58.580
that the regional stay-at-home order
01:24:58.580 --> 01:25:02.960
and overnight curfew were
listed lifted across the state.
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:07.960
Over 99% of California
remains in the most restricted tier.
01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:12.380
California has recovered
fewer than half the non-farm jobs
01:25:12.380 --> 01:25:15.910
that it lost during the first
two months of the pandemic.
01:25:15.910 --> 01:25:18.530
That's only scratching
the surface broadly
01:25:18.530 --> 01:25:22.600
of the economic impacts of
the pandemic in California.
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:26.110
And on that basis, we are
proposing to deliver additional
01:25:26.110 --> 01:25:28.060
protection to utility customers
01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:30.850
until June 30th of this year.
01:25:30.850 --> 01:25:31.913
Next slide, please.
01:25:34.080 --> 01:25:36.860
Here are a few examples
of the productions covered
01:25:36.860 --> 01:25:38.340
in the resolution.
01:25:38.340 --> 01:25:40.510
For electric and gas customers,
01:25:40.510 --> 01:25:42.690
one of the most important
things we're doing
01:25:42.690 --> 01:25:46.130
as a Commission is to
suspend disconnections
01:25:46.130 --> 01:25:48.440
for nonpayment of bills.
01:25:48.440 --> 01:25:52.194
We've also required electric
and gas utilities to suspend
01:25:52.194 --> 01:25:57.194
removing any customers from
the CARE and Thera programs,
01:25:57.270 --> 01:25:59.723
which both support
low income households.
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.073
The resolution also requires
utilities to making efforts
01:26:04.073 --> 01:26:07.590
through community-based organizations
01:26:07.590 --> 01:26:11.020
to inform low-income
customers about both enrolling
01:26:11.020 --> 01:26:13.993
and staying in the CARE
and Thera programs.
01:26:15.300 --> 01:26:19.700
We've required and are
continuing to require water utilities
01:26:19.700 --> 01:26:22.540
to work cooperatively
with affected customers
01:26:22.540 --> 01:26:26.310
to resolve unpaid bills and
minimize disconnections
01:26:26.310 --> 01:26:27.820
for non-payment.
01:26:27.820 --> 01:26:30.989
I note that Governor
Newsome's executive order
01:26:30.989 --> 01:26:35.220
and 42-20 does remain
in effect, which itself
01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:38.020
continues a moratorium
for disconnections
01:26:38.020 --> 01:26:41.653
for all water utilities, both
investor owned and public.
01:26:43.070 --> 01:26:44.670
For communications customers,
01:26:44.670 --> 01:26:48.290
we have suspended
Lifeline Program renewals
01:26:48.290 --> 01:26:51.220
and we're requiring
carriers to increase outreach
01:26:51.220 --> 01:26:54.560
to Californians who
are eligible for Lifeline.
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:56.660
In a separate resolution in December,
01:26:56.660 --> 01:26:59.710
you approved a
moratorium on disconnection
01:26:59.710 --> 01:27:02.290
of communications
customers for non-payment
01:27:02.290 --> 01:27:04.003
that is in effect now.
01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:09.193
Finally, we state again
in this resolution as we did
01:27:09.193 --> 01:27:13.210
in early 2020, that all of
these are a floor, not a ceiling
01:27:13.210 --> 01:27:16.590
and we encourage and
expect utility to develop
01:27:16.590 --> 01:27:18.290
and implement additional projects.
01:27:19.660 --> 01:27:20.640
Next slide, please
01:27:22.870 --> 01:27:24.820
The new piece that we've introduced here
01:27:24.820 --> 01:27:28.680
is to require utilities to
prepare transition plans.
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.840
We want them to proactively
help customers get prepared
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.300
for what we hope to be
more normal conditions
01:27:34.300 --> 01:27:37.380
as of June 30th of this year.
01:27:37.380 --> 01:27:40.190
The transition plans
must show how the utilities
01:27:40.190 --> 01:27:42.680
will communicate with
customers ahead of, and
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:46.100
during the transition and
use metrics so that we
01:27:46.100 --> 01:27:49.070
and other stakeholders can
assess how well they're doing
01:27:49.070 --> 01:27:52.100
in guiding customers
through the transition.
01:27:52.100 --> 01:27:55.290
We expect them to
launch these activities well
01:27:55.290 --> 01:27:58.890
before June 30th, and
should any federal release
01:27:58.890 --> 01:28:01.570
become available
there to incorporate that
01:28:01.570 --> 01:28:05.503
into their marketing education
and outreach strategies.
01:28:06.610 --> 01:28:10.050
We will see first to drafts
of the transition plans
01:28:10.050 --> 01:28:14.740
on February 25th and the
Low-Income Oversight Board
01:28:14.740 --> 01:28:17.790
will hear presentations
of a select number
01:28:17.790 --> 01:28:20.830
of those plans at their
March 11th meeting.
01:28:20.830 --> 01:28:24.740
The final plans will be due
via Advice Letter on April 1st
01:28:24.740 --> 01:28:27.359
so that implementation can begin.
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:31.620
I want to close by thanking
the two people who primarily
01:28:31.620 --> 01:28:34.640
wrote this resolution
and they did so largely
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.450
during the holiday season,
Alison Labonte from Energy
01:28:38.450 --> 01:28:42.610
Division and April Mulqueen
from my office, with assistance
01:28:42.610 --> 01:28:45.640
from Bradley Delong
at the water division.
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:49.320
I am very proud that this
resolution is another way that we
01:28:49.320 --> 01:28:52.750
at the CPUC are stepping
up and delivering assistance
01:28:52.750 --> 01:28:56.000
and protection to
Californians in this moment
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.683
of extreme economic circumstance.
01:28:59.530 --> 01:29:00.868
Thank you.
01:29:00.868 --> 01:29:02.350
I'll pass it back to my colleagues
01:29:02.350 --> 01:29:04.213
and I'm happy to take any questions.
01:29:06.156 --> 01:29:08.489
Okay, thank you.
01:29:08.489 --> 01:29:13.489
I'll take questions now on
17 and then we will move
01:29:14.470 --> 01:29:18.850
as I said earlier to item 41, I will...
01:29:18.850 --> 01:29:21.273
Any questions on item 17?
01:29:22.850 --> 01:29:24.489
Okay, seeing none.
01:29:24.489 --> 01:29:27.530
Commissioner Guzman
Aceves, would you like to
01:29:27.530 --> 01:29:29.163
introduce item 41?
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.220
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
01:29:32.220 --> 01:29:37.040
And as a Director Peterson
has laid out, working
01:29:37.040 --> 01:29:41.070
on a series of items to
really prepare customers,
01:29:41.070 --> 01:29:46.040
prepare utilities and all
of us for this transition off
01:29:46.040 --> 01:29:50.910
of the moratorium that has
been extended to the end of June.
01:29:50.910 --> 01:29:54.091
And certainly I'm hopeful that
01:29:54.091 --> 01:29:56.770
that we don't have to further extend
01:29:56.770 --> 01:30:01.740
that assuming our COVID
environment is continues
01:30:01.740 --> 01:30:03.415
on the path of this week.
01:30:03.415 --> 01:30:08.220
And so before I, I hand it
01:30:08.220 --> 01:30:10.290
over to our Deputy Executive Director
01:30:10.290 --> 01:30:12.810
on Energy and Climate, Ed Randolph,
01:30:12.810 --> 01:30:16.480
just to lay out, Ed will
present, really give us a state
01:30:16.480 --> 01:30:18.993
of what the arrears look
like for our customers.
01:30:18.993 --> 01:30:22.530
And then Amy Misrodian
will provide details
01:30:22.530 --> 01:30:25.178
on the item itself that
we will be voting on
01:30:25.178 --> 01:30:29.240
to open a rulemaking at
to see what other measures
01:30:29.240 --> 01:30:34.240
we can be taking to
examine how to address this
01:30:35.670 --> 01:30:38.630
accumulated customer
debt through COVID-19.
01:30:38.630 --> 01:30:42.725
I also want to thank the energy division
01:30:42.725 --> 01:30:46.750
for their continuous
tracking of the impacts
01:30:46.750 --> 01:30:49.800
of the pandemic and most notably
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:53.100
for all the staff, as
Dr. Peterson mentioned,
01:30:53.100 --> 01:30:57.250
including the staff that's
presenting today, Amy Misrobian,
01:30:57.250 --> 01:31:01.623
for all the work on
preparing us to be able to act.
01:31:02.626 --> 01:31:07.397
And as you know, I do
also want to encourage you
01:31:07.397 --> 01:31:09.890
and we'll come back to
this when we vote on this,
01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:14.530
but there are many measures
that we will be examining
01:31:14.530 --> 01:31:15.960
in the rulemaking.
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.860
It will require a tremendous
amount of collaboration
01:31:19.860 --> 01:31:24.556
and creativity, and looking
at leveraging hopefully as well
01:31:24.556 --> 01:31:27.680
non rate payer funds, including some
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:31.360
of what's happened already
with shareholder contributions
01:31:31.360 --> 01:31:34.920
and most notably the federal
funding that as you know
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:38.090
is currently being
deliberated as we speak.
01:31:38.090 --> 01:31:40.870
So with that, I'm going to turn
01:31:40.870 --> 01:31:45.870
to our Deputy Director, Ed Randolph.
01:31:50.208 --> 01:31:51.620
Good morning.
01:31:51.620 --> 01:31:54.320
A quick sound check,
can you hear me okay?
01:31:54.320 --> 01:31:58.230
And Robert, there's a
slide slide deck for this
01:31:58.230 --> 01:32:00.000
if you can bring up, thank you.
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:01.450
Yeah, thank you for the introduction,
01:32:01.450 --> 01:32:02.680
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:06.110
and good morning, President
Batjer and Commissioners.
01:32:06.110 --> 01:32:07.270
My name's Edward Randolph,
01:32:07.270 --> 01:32:08.930
I am the Deputy Executive Director
01:32:08.930 --> 01:32:13.833
for Energy and Climate
Policy at the CPUC.
01:32:13.833 --> 01:32:16.210
I'm going to present an update
01:32:16.210 --> 01:32:18.129
on the impacts the pandemic has had
01:32:18.129 --> 01:32:21.808
on electric and natural gas
customers paying their bills.
01:32:21.808 --> 01:32:25.065
Since the beginning of
the shelter-at-home orders
01:32:25.065 --> 01:32:28.280
last March, the CPUC's energy division
01:32:28.280 --> 01:32:30.425
has been tracking data on impacts
01:32:30.425 --> 01:32:33.068
to electric and gas customers.
01:32:33.068 --> 01:32:36.690
Much of the information
comes from the utilities
01:32:36.690 --> 01:32:39.000
as part of a monthly reports
01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:43.020
that we require the utilities
to provide to energy division.
01:32:43.020 --> 01:32:44.330
The data today is
01:32:44.330 --> 01:32:47.160
from the January
reports from the utilities.
01:32:47.160 --> 01:32:51.418
And before I get into the
slides itself, I need to clarify
01:32:51.418 --> 01:32:55.120
that we recently realized
that utilities are not
01:32:55.120 --> 01:32:58.030
reporting some of
this data consistently.
01:32:58.030 --> 01:33:02.490
I will explain the differences
in how they're being reported
01:33:02.490 --> 01:33:04.540
as we move through some of the slides
01:33:04.540 --> 01:33:09.540
and we will add some clarifying
information to these slides
01:33:09.590 --> 01:33:14.527
before they're posted
publicly on our, on our website.
01:33:14.527 --> 01:33:17.340
The slides provide multiple ways
01:33:17.340 --> 01:33:21.170
to view the impacts on
customers, and I'm sorry,
01:33:21.170 --> 01:33:22.640
the slides provide multiple ways
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:27.640
to view the impacts on
customers on paying their bills.
01:33:27.780 --> 01:33:32.660
While there is a prohibition
on disconnections
01:33:32.660 --> 01:33:35.003
for non-payments at the moment
01:33:35.003 --> 01:33:37.810
the unpaid bills still create challenges
01:33:37.810 --> 01:33:39.790
for utility customers, especially
01:33:39.790 --> 01:33:42.600
since there is still an expectation
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:45.570
that these bills be paid
in full at some point.
01:33:45.570 --> 01:33:48.710
Additionally, the uncollected bills
01:33:48.710 --> 01:33:52.200
by the utilities are generally passed
01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:54.000
on to other rate payers.
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:55.940
So there there's not plans
01:33:55.940 --> 01:33:59.980
in place to enable
struggling households to
01:33:59.980 --> 01:34:02.680
manage their bills and
keep them affordable,
01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:05.950
other rate payers will
ultimately bear some
01:34:05.950 --> 01:34:07.133
of that burden as well.
01:34:09.470 --> 01:34:12.920
For, and Robert if we can
move to the first slide, please.
01:34:17.810 --> 01:34:20.213
Working for the slides, I'm gonna focus
01:34:20.213 --> 01:34:23.880
on some slides more
specifically than others
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:28.290
as I think information is more relevant
01:34:28.290 --> 01:34:32.085
to the discussions we're having
today on some than others,
01:34:32.085 --> 01:34:34.771
but the information
will be posted publicly
01:34:34.771 --> 01:34:36.910
'cause it has helpful information
01:34:36.910 --> 01:34:38.990
and a number of district decisions.
01:34:38.990 --> 01:34:41.640
And Robert, can you go ahead
and move to the next slide?
01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:45.670
This slide deck contains
both bar charts and tables
01:34:45.670 --> 01:34:47.380
on each of the information.
01:34:47.380 --> 01:34:49.210
I'm going to focus on the table,
01:34:49.210 --> 01:34:53.980
since I find looking at the
actual dollar amounts are
01:34:53.980 --> 01:34:57.170
a little more informative
than looking at the bar charts.
01:34:57.170 --> 01:35:02.099
The first slide we're
showing is the ongoing,
01:35:02.099 --> 01:35:07.099
the customer arrears
since the beginning of 2020,
01:35:08.370 --> 01:35:10.360
which largely tracks the amount
01:35:10.360 --> 01:35:13.070
of unpaid bills that
you know is attributed
01:35:13.070 --> 01:35:16.330
to other things other than the pandemic,
01:35:16.330 --> 01:35:18.270
but it's largely because
01:35:18.270 --> 01:35:20.683
of the pandemic and
the economic downturn.
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:25.730
And this chart here provides
two pieces of information.
01:35:25.730 --> 01:35:28.760
One is the dollar amount
that under collection
01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:33.000
to the utilities from
unpaid bills in total.
01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.280
The second column or the
third column on the table,
01:35:35.280 --> 01:35:37.560
the total customers inner arrearage.
01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.870
I want to pause on that
because that is a place
01:35:39.870 --> 01:35:43.303
where utilities have been
reporting the data differently.
01:35:44.150 --> 01:35:46.320
And what we've recently learned is PG
01:35:46.320 --> 01:35:48.120
and E has been responding
01:35:48.120 --> 01:35:52.350
to the data requests, you
know, as, as we've interpreted
01:35:52.350 --> 01:35:54.900
and we intended,
which is the total number
01:35:54.900 --> 01:35:57.555
of customers that have unpaid bills.
01:35:57.555 --> 01:36:01.708
Southern California Edison
and San Diego Gas and Electric
01:36:01.708 --> 01:36:06.708
both had been reporting the
total number of unpaid bills.
01:36:07.050 --> 01:36:10.990
So a customer who didn't
pay their bill and March, April,
01:36:10.990 --> 01:36:14.163
and May, for example,
we have three unpaid bills.
01:36:15.010 --> 01:36:17.830
So this is not an apples
to apples comparison
01:36:17.830 --> 01:36:21.320
on the total number
of customers, you know
01:36:21.320 --> 01:36:24.760
between the utilities, though,
the dollar amount, you know
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:27.140
if the total dollar amount.
01:36:27.140 --> 01:36:29.190
Moving to the next
slide, please, Robert.
01:36:30.855 --> 01:36:33.150
And again, Robert, if you can just move
01:36:33.150 --> 01:36:34.700
to the next slide to the table.
01:36:36.270 --> 01:36:37.103
And again, you know
01:36:37.103 --> 01:36:40.606
this is dollar amount
and age of arrearages
01:36:40.606 --> 01:36:43.520
and I think this, and then
the slides, when we look
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:48.520
at the total customers is
a very important indication
01:36:49.060 --> 01:36:54.060
of how much families are
struggling due to the pandemic
01:36:54.430 --> 01:36:59.230
and how many people have
bills that are past due, you know
01:36:59.230 --> 01:37:02.165
not just one month or
two months of struggling,
01:37:02.165 --> 01:37:06.430
but for many, many months
of struggling out there.
01:37:06.430 --> 01:37:08.480
And Robert again,
the next table, please.
01:37:11.670 --> 01:37:14.670
You know, bar chart on
a number of customers.
01:37:14.670 --> 01:37:16.570
And again, if you can
move to the next table
01:37:16.570 --> 01:37:18.781
with the actual numbers,
thank you, Robert.
01:37:18.781 --> 01:37:22.840
And again, we will need to unwind some
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.850
of these numbers is we've
understood that, you know,
01:37:25.850 --> 01:37:28.810
PG and E at the top, that is actually
01:37:28.810 --> 01:37:33.109
the number of customers,
where for Edison,
01:37:33.109 --> 01:37:38.109
San Diego Gas and
Electric, that is the number
01:37:38.370 --> 01:37:42.390
of bills that are past due and
not the number of customers.
01:37:42.390 --> 01:37:46.750
So, you know, some of that
may be a customer who's more
01:37:46.750 --> 01:37:50.060
than 120 days past
due on their March bill
01:37:50.060 --> 01:37:53.323
and then on our April bill
and May bill, and so forth.
01:37:53.323 --> 01:37:55.499
But again, you can see these numbers
01:37:55.499 --> 01:38:00.499
as we get into that 120 day
in struggling are, you know
01:38:02.270 --> 01:38:03.990
are growing to be quite large.
01:38:03.990 --> 01:38:05.393
Next slide please, Robert.
01:38:08.060 --> 01:38:12.780
And I'm not, I'm not going to
draw this one formatted oddly
01:38:12.780 --> 01:38:15.670
when we got it moved
into the slide deck.
01:38:15.670 --> 01:38:17.890
Next slide is the number is from
01:38:20.400 --> 01:38:24.460
you know, in the tables, broken
out by CARE and non-CARE.
01:38:24.460 --> 01:38:28.005
The biggest take home
from this one is, is, is actually
01:38:28.005 --> 01:38:31.557
a little surprising and it's
different between utility
01:38:31.557 --> 01:38:36.557
that there is an even,
in some utilities, the
01:38:37.558 --> 01:38:40.820
the there's a larger number
of CARE and fewer customers
01:38:40.820 --> 01:38:43.903
would past due amounts
01:38:43.903 --> 01:38:47.720
than there are the non-CARE out there
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:49.160
and it switches from utility.
01:38:49.160 --> 01:38:52.350
And this actually raises
some questions about outreach
01:38:52.350 --> 01:38:54.710
and other things that the
utilities and the Commission
01:38:54.710 --> 01:38:58.670
can be doing, you know,
because a non-CARE customer
01:38:58.670 --> 01:39:01.133
who is struggling with
their bills, we definitely
01:39:01.133 --> 01:39:05.160
need to be working with
them to make sure, you know
01:39:05.160 --> 01:39:07.610
from the very beginning
of their struggles
01:39:07.610 --> 01:39:11.040
that they are eligible for
some rate assistance programs.
01:39:11.040 --> 01:39:12.390
Next slide, please, Robert.
01:39:14.525 --> 01:39:15.925
And again, next slide again.
01:39:19.584 --> 01:39:21.990
And this, because it's amount owed
01:39:21.990 --> 01:39:24.010
and not number of customers,
01:39:24.010 --> 01:39:26.790
it should be consistent
among the utilities.
01:39:26.790 --> 01:39:31.790
And I think is another
very important data point to
01:39:31.820 --> 01:39:34.583
you know, look at how many
customers and how much they
01:39:34.583 --> 01:39:39.583
you know, they owe know in
the various ranges, you know, and
01:39:39.820 --> 01:39:42.850
as we see, you know,
across the three major utilities
01:39:42.850 --> 01:39:46.440
that we're reporting on
here, you know, you have well
01:39:46.440 --> 01:39:51.440
over a 600,000 households
out there that owe more
01:39:56.290 --> 01:39:59.280
than a thousand dollars in
past due amounts right now.
01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:01.643
And I believe that's Robert next slide.
01:40:02.980 --> 01:40:06.540
Okay, and so the next
part of this presentation, so
01:40:06.540 --> 01:40:08.890
I will ask if you want to stop
for questions or comments
01:40:08.890 --> 01:40:11.570
on the actual data report
before we hand it over,
01:40:11.570 --> 01:40:14.910
but I will be handing this
over to Amy Misrobian
01:40:14.910 --> 01:40:19.183
and talk about the draft OYR
that you'll be voting on today.
01:40:24.660 --> 01:40:28.780
I think Commissioner
Rechtschaffen has a question.
01:40:28.780 --> 01:40:33.148
The higher numbers we saw
for SoCalGas and SDG and E,
01:40:33.148 --> 01:40:36.260
do you think that's
largely just an artifact
01:40:36.260 --> 01:40:38.330
of the reporting that
they're reporting number
01:40:38.330 --> 01:40:43.330
of instances of, of
non-payment or, or, or
01:40:43.550 --> 01:40:46.155
or as opposed to the
number of customers,
01:40:46.155 --> 01:40:48.810
does that explain pretty much all
01:40:48.810 --> 01:40:52.021
of the higher numbers
received for those two?
01:40:52.021 --> 01:40:54.750
I don't think so.
01:40:54.750 --> 01:40:57.060
I believe the higher
numbers for San Diego Gas
01:40:57.060 --> 01:41:00.790
and Electric may very
well likely be attributed
01:41:00.790 --> 01:41:03.300
to the difference in
how they're reporting.
01:41:03.300 --> 01:41:06.990
Our understanding is
Southern California Gas
01:41:06.990 --> 01:41:10.430
Company is reporting
the number of customers.
01:41:10.430 --> 01:41:12.880
So, you know, you know, looking
back at some of those slides
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.650
and I should've flagged
that, that the numbers
01:41:15.650 --> 01:41:19.520
for Southern California
Gas Company are, you know
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:22.986
are quite large
relative to other utilities.
01:41:22.986 --> 01:41:26.543
I don't have a explanation for that.
01:41:26.543 --> 01:41:31.543
And we can ask them to
provide some further explanations
01:41:32.970 --> 01:41:37.700
on why they think their
numbers of, you know
01:41:37.700 --> 01:41:39.950
customers with a past
due amounts are larger
01:41:39.950 --> 01:41:41.037
than the other (indistinct).
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:44.465
Okay, we'd be
interested in getting,
01:41:44.465 --> 01:41:47.295
when you follow up and find out,
01:41:47.295 --> 01:41:49.273
that would be interesting
information to know.
01:41:50.200 --> 01:41:52.030
As I am sure they
are listening now,
01:41:52.030 --> 01:41:54.000
so they should be prepared
01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:56.543
for a request to
provide that information.
01:41:58.120 --> 01:42:01.180
That's a very
helpful question, Cliff.
01:42:01.180 --> 01:42:03.120
I was wondering the same.
01:42:03.120 --> 01:42:05.563
I think permission to
Shiroma has a question.
01:42:07.420 --> 01:42:09.420
Gee, that was my question
01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:13.025
in terms of follow up by the utilities
01:42:13.025 --> 01:42:17.160
so that we can have an apples
to apples comparison here.
01:42:17.160 --> 01:42:18.850
Yep, thank you.
Okay, good.
01:42:18.850 --> 01:42:20.120
Thank you.
01:42:20.120 --> 01:42:22.010
Any other questions of, of Ed
01:42:22.010 --> 01:42:23.723
before he turns it over to Amy?
01:42:26.110 --> 01:42:27.683
Okay, Ed, do you want to?
01:42:29.456 --> 01:42:31.460
And as I turn it over to
Amy, I want to repeat some
01:42:31.460 --> 01:42:34.760
of the things that have
already been stated for
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:36.840
you know, to, you know
01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:38.933
to Amy who will be presenting on this.
01:42:40.385 --> 01:42:42.550
And I'm sorry, I'll send them
01:42:42.550 --> 01:42:44.450
for getting on Ben's last name,
01:42:44.450 --> 01:42:47.580
who've spent a lot of time working
01:42:47.580 --> 01:42:51.340
on getting this OIR together
01:42:51.340 --> 01:42:55.750
and prepared in fairly quick time and
01:42:55.750 --> 01:42:58.967
to the work of Alison Labonte who worked
01:42:58.967 --> 01:43:02.393
over Christmas time to help
get the, the resolution drafted.
01:43:05.190 --> 01:43:06.190
All right, thanks.
01:43:08.170 --> 01:43:10.891
Go ahead, Amy, I'm
sorry, I spoke over you.
01:43:10.891 --> 01:43:11.724
Okay, thank you everyone.
01:43:11.724 --> 01:43:12.557
Good morning, Commissioners.
01:43:12.557 --> 01:43:14.090
This is Amy Mitrobian,
01:43:14.090 --> 01:43:16.864
I'm a Supervisor in Energy Division.
01:43:16.864 --> 01:43:19.460
And so building off the
data that I just shared
01:43:19.460 --> 01:43:22.310
I'll present on a new
order, instituting rulemaking
01:43:22.310 --> 01:43:25.610
for consideration, that would
consider addressing some
01:43:25.610 --> 01:43:29.340
of those arrearages that Ed just shared,
01:43:29.340 --> 01:43:31.960
and I'll discuss the
purpose, background, issues,
01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.333
and schedules included in the LIR.
01:43:35.430 --> 01:43:38.190
So even though the
Commission has taken many steps
01:43:38.190 --> 01:43:41.550
to help customers since
the beginning of COVID,
01:43:41.550 --> 01:43:44.777
as Ed showed, the dollar
amount of arrearages
01:43:44.777 --> 01:43:46.560
has still significantly increased.
01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.748
And as we just heard from
Executive Director Peterson,
01:43:49.748 --> 01:43:54.748
there's a resolution to
potentially extend the moratorium
01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:58.640
on disconnections
through the end of June.
01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:02.400
So assuming the moratorium
is not extended any further
01:44:02.400 --> 01:44:05.830
beyond that, some residential
and small business customers
01:44:05.830 --> 01:44:08.915
with the arrearages would
be at risk of disconnections
01:44:08.915 --> 01:44:12.210
for non-payment when
the moratorium ends.
01:44:12.210 --> 01:44:13.930
The purpose of this proceeding
01:44:13.930 --> 01:44:16.470
would be to look at whether
there is anything else
01:44:16.470 --> 01:44:19.460
the Commission should do
to help with these arrearages
01:44:19.460 --> 01:44:20.530
and reduce the risk
01:44:20.530 --> 01:44:23.430
of customer disconnections
for non-payment.
01:44:23.430 --> 01:44:24.380
Next slide, please.
01:44:30.330 --> 01:44:32.130
I'm sorry, can we go back one slide?
01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:34.553
Thank you.
01:44:35.700 --> 01:44:39.207
Okay, so to provide some
background relevant to the LIR,
01:44:39.207 --> 01:44:42.870
the Commission has taken
various response measures
01:44:42.870 --> 01:44:46.450
since March, 2020, to try to
address the impacts of COVID-19
01:44:46.450 --> 01:44:50.050
on customers and the energy
of workforce from the moratorium
01:44:50.050 --> 01:44:53.570
on disconnections for
nonpayment to concentrate efforts
01:44:53.570 --> 01:44:55.060
to increase enrollment in CARE
01:44:55.060 --> 01:44:57.030
and Thera rate discount programs.
01:44:57.030 --> 01:44:59.680
And these efforts are detailed
in the background section
01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:01.480
of the order instituting rulemaking.
01:45:02.650 --> 01:45:05.451
The next people on the
slide are not things that were
01:45:05.451 --> 01:45:08.330
specifically done in response to COVID,
01:45:08.330 --> 01:45:12.320
but can offer some important
customer systems now
01:45:12.320 --> 01:45:15.994
and when the disconnections
moratorium is lifted.
01:45:15.994 --> 01:45:20.541
So first the Commission
requires the four large IOUs,
01:45:20.541 --> 01:45:24.640
PG and E, SDG and E, and SoCalGas offer
01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.350
12-month payment plans
to any customer prior
01:45:27.350 --> 01:45:29.550
to disconnection for nonpayment.
01:45:29.550 --> 01:45:31.770
And customers can request
a shorter payment plan
01:45:31.770 --> 01:45:33.270
if they wish.
01:45:33.270 --> 01:45:36.000
So while customers are not
currently getting disconnected,
01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:38.641
the payment plans would
remain available when
01:45:38.641 --> 01:45:41.603
the moratorium is
lifted to help manage it.
01:45:43.310 --> 01:45:47.000
Second, this month, the four large IOU's
01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:50.440
began enrolling eligible
CARE and Thera customers
01:45:50.440 --> 01:45:52.433
into arrearage management plans.
01:45:52.433 --> 01:45:56.540
And these arrearage management
plans are newly created
01:45:56.540 --> 01:45:59.620
and provide arrearage
forgiveness to customers for
01:45:59.620 --> 01:46:02.320
past due bills in exchange
for on-time payment
01:46:02.320 --> 01:46:03.610
of new bills.
01:46:03.610 --> 01:46:05.490
Enrolled customers receive forgiveness
01:46:05.490 --> 01:46:08.460
for one-12th of their
beginning of arrearage balance
01:46:08.460 --> 01:46:11.851
for every on-time payment
of a new monthly bill,
01:46:11.851 --> 01:46:14.986
being their arrearage
balance would be forgiven
01:46:14.986 --> 01:46:18.440
after a year of on-time
payments of these bills.
01:46:18.440 --> 01:46:22.210
And again, this program
is for eligible CARE
01:46:22.210 --> 01:46:27.210
and Thera customers, and
was conceived of before COVID
01:46:28.010 --> 01:46:32.260
and might not address the
broad swath of customers
01:46:32.260 --> 01:46:36.223
that are now struggling
to pay their utility bills.
01:46:37.390 --> 01:46:40.950
And then finally, in November
of 2020, the Commission
01:46:40.950 --> 01:46:43.600
held a workshop to
assess the continued impact
01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:47.070
of the pandemic and economic
hardships on customers.
01:46:47.070 --> 01:46:49.560
We heard data on customer
program enrollments
01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:53.210
into arrearages and insights
from those who work directly
01:46:53.210 --> 01:46:56.403
with customers to better
understand their experiences.
01:46:57.370 --> 01:47:00.610
We also heard from
representatives of several other states
01:47:00.610 --> 01:47:03.000
about the innovative
programs and policies they
01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:06.225
had developed to help
utility customers in their state.
01:47:06.225 --> 01:47:07.940
In Illinois, for example,
01:47:07.940 --> 01:47:11.280
the large Illinois utilities
offered a one-time credit
01:47:11.280 --> 01:47:16.230
of between 75 to $500 per customer
01:47:16.230 --> 01:47:19.910
to income eligible
customers for their arrearages.
01:47:19.910 --> 01:47:23.540
They also agreed to
offer residential customers
01:47:23.540 --> 01:47:27.860
18-month payment plans, or
up to 24-month payment plans
01:47:27.860 --> 01:47:32.080
for those customers who
verbally expressed to their utility
01:47:32.080 --> 01:47:35.373
that they had a financial
hardship due to COVID.
01:47:36.890 --> 01:47:40.220
So the thinking that we heard,
and some of the examples
01:47:40.220 --> 01:47:44.190
from this workshop helped
to help to inform some thinking
01:47:44.190 --> 01:47:47.840
in developing this order
instituting rulemaking.
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:49.080
Next slide, please.
01:47:53.010 --> 01:47:57.010
Okay, so the OER identified
a number of questions
01:47:57.010 --> 01:47:58.990
which at a high level are, you know
01:47:58.990 --> 01:48:01.659
first is it reasonable
to develop an arrearage
01:48:01.659 --> 01:48:05.430
relief program to assist customers
01:48:05.430 --> 01:48:07.560
with via arrearages
that have accumulated
01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:09.297
during the COVID period?
01:48:09.297 --> 01:48:12.150
And if so, if we should
provide this relief,
01:48:12.150 --> 01:48:15.100
how should we structure it,
and who should be eligible?
01:48:15.100 --> 01:48:17.680
How would we fund this relief, including
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:20.120
as Commissioner
(indistinct) was mentioning,
01:48:20.120 --> 01:48:22.931
any federal funding that
might become available?
01:48:22.931 --> 01:48:25.210
How should we coordinate any relief
01:48:25.210 --> 01:48:28.233
with other customer programs
and COVID response measures?
01:48:29.070 --> 01:48:30.160
And what are the concerns
01:48:30.160 --> 01:48:32.100
and considerations unique to the small
01:48:32.100 --> 01:48:34.730
and multi-jurisdictional
utilities and their customers?
01:48:34.730 --> 01:48:36.762
So the data that Ed had presented
01:48:36.762 --> 01:48:41.762
from the four large IOUs
doesn't yet include data
01:48:42.630 --> 01:48:45.193
from the small and
multi-jurisdictional utilities, so
01:48:45.193 --> 01:48:48.210
that the preceding would
need to assess any concerns
01:48:48.210 --> 01:48:50.110
or considerations for these utilities.
01:48:51.330 --> 01:48:53.420
And then finally, to note the appendix
01:48:53.420 --> 01:48:55.890
to the order instituting
rulemaking include
01:48:55.890 --> 01:48:58.530
some straw proposals
that provide examples
01:48:58.530 --> 01:49:01.290
of how the Commission
could provide relief
01:49:01.290 --> 01:49:03.577
with rough estimates
of associated costs.
01:49:03.577 --> 01:49:06.300
And these straw
proposals are met to provide
01:49:06.300 --> 01:49:09.210
illustrative examples of
what assistance could look like
01:49:09.210 --> 01:49:12.760
in order to spur discussion
and the potential development
01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:16.093
of modified or alternative
proposals for discussion.
01:49:17.170 --> 01:49:18.120
Next slide, please.
01:49:21.817 --> 01:49:26.480
And the last slide just shows
the proposed schedule included
01:49:26.480 --> 01:49:28.800
in the order instituting rulemaking.
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.350
The next step would be party common
01:49:31.350 --> 01:49:35.360
to March 3rd on the proposed
issues in the proceeding,
01:49:35.360 --> 01:49:38.120
as well as the straw proposals
included in the appendix
01:49:38.120 --> 01:49:41.435
and any alternative
proposals parties wished to
01:49:41.435 --> 01:49:43.253
to suggest in the proceeding.
01:49:44.932 --> 01:49:45.765
And that's it for my remarks.
01:49:45.765 --> 01:49:46.598
Thank you.
01:49:48.457 --> 01:49:49.874
Thank you, Amy.
01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:53.463
Well, any questions for Amy?
01:49:56.830 --> 01:49:59.910
Okay, I'm not seeing any,
01:49:59.910 --> 01:50:02.409
but let me move back to my grid view,
01:50:02.409 --> 01:50:03.559
so I could see you all.
01:50:04.490 --> 01:50:06.060
I did want to just reiterate
01:50:06.060 --> 01:50:07.990
something I mentioned earlier, which is
01:50:07.990 --> 01:50:10.560
this is obviously an
ambitious timeline so
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:13.138
that we can be
responsive in a timely way
01:50:13.138 --> 01:50:16.169
to the transition off the moratorium
01:50:16.169 --> 01:50:19.220
and really encouraged
more so than ever before
01:50:19.220 --> 01:50:22.610
for the parties to really
collaborate with each other.
01:50:22.610 --> 01:50:26.370
I think some of what
has been so inspiring
01:50:26.370 --> 01:50:29.378
as we've learned through this
last week's narrow conference
01:50:29.378 --> 01:50:31.920
the type of collaboration that has come
01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:35.680
through in other states
and mostly the types
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:38.530
of assistance have yield
different settlements.
01:50:38.530 --> 01:50:41.440
So I hope that the
parties take the opportunity
01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:46.440
to really rise to the moment
and put our customers first
01:50:47.250 --> 01:50:49.870
and come up with
solutions that are based
01:50:49.870 --> 01:50:54.870
on really everyone giving
their part and, and coming up
01:50:55.580 --> 01:50:59.210
with really a set of
creative solutions that we
01:50:59.210 --> 01:51:01.123
have perhaps never seen before.
01:51:02.044 --> 01:51:05.040
I also want to just briefly acknowledge
01:51:05.040 --> 01:51:07.960
that we are working
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:11.240
obviously, President Batjer
and Commissioner Shiroma
01:51:11.240 --> 01:51:13.940
worked on both the
water and energy side here
01:51:13.940 --> 01:51:17.380
with our sister agencies
as such a critical role.
01:51:17.380 --> 01:51:19.840
I want to recognize the role
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:23.690
of the Consumer Service District
and Development Department
01:51:23.690 --> 01:51:27.481
excuse me, and particular
in how helpful they have been
01:51:27.481 --> 01:51:30.390
and how helpful they
will be in cooperating
01:51:30.390 --> 01:51:34.203
with us on the optimization
of the federal assistance.
01:51:35.200 --> 01:51:38.756
So with that, I asked for
your support for this OIR
01:51:38.756 --> 01:51:40.650
and for the resolution,
and President Batjer,
01:51:40.650 --> 01:51:42.200
I'll turn to you and the order.
01:51:43.210 --> 01:51:44.717
Okay, thank you.
01:51:44.717 --> 01:51:46.189
And I want to thank Rachel
01:51:46.189 --> 01:51:48.380
and Ed and Amy for those presentations.
01:51:48.380 --> 01:51:50.280
I offer my support for the resolution
01:51:50.280 --> 01:51:53.470
extending the emergency
customer protections
01:51:53.470 --> 01:51:56.130
we adopted in April of 2020.
01:51:56.130 --> 01:52:00.130
And in this OIR order
instituting rulemaking
01:52:00.130 --> 01:52:02.890
to consider and develop relief mechanism
01:52:02.890 --> 01:52:06.030
for the customers who
could not pay their energy bills
01:52:06.030 --> 01:52:08.563
during the COVID-19 pandemic.
01:52:09.590 --> 01:52:11.870
While adopting the
resolution is an important step
01:52:11.870 --> 01:52:14.519
in that in terms of protecting consumers
01:52:14.519 --> 01:52:16.860
during this critical time of difficulty
01:52:16.860 --> 01:52:19.130
and uncertainty, it is very important
01:52:19.130 --> 01:52:21.530
that we proactively address the large
01:52:21.530 --> 01:52:24.570
and grand energy
arrearages that have accrued
01:52:24.570 --> 01:52:26.400
during the pandemic.
01:52:26.400 --> 01:52:27.620
The rulemaking provides us
01:52:27.620 --> 01:52:29.880
with a venue to brainstorm, develop,
01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:32.450
and implement measures
that will help ensure
01:52:32.450 --> 01:52:33.810
that once the moratorium
01:52:33.810 --> 01:52:37.010
on customer disconnection
and non-payment ends
01:52:37.010 --> 01:52:38.563
we can provide relief to the customers.
01:52:38.563 --> 01:52:41.560
I'm particularly pleased that
the rulemaking has sought
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.270
out examples in other jurisdictions,
01:52:45.270 --> 01:52:47.964
as Amy just remarked
on, to inform our thinking
01:52:47.964 --> 01:52:52.790
on potential solutions for
the Commissioner to enact.
01:52:52.790 --> 01:52:54.350
I'm glad that the
rulemaking will consider
01:52:54.350 --> 01:52:57.820
both the need for the relief
across customer classes
01:52:57.820 --> 01:53:01.390
and within customer classes,
and potential funding sources
01:53:01.390 --> 01:53:04.180
for any relief measures,
as it is very important
01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:07.610
for us to think about the
appropriate size and scope of
01:53:10.134 --> 01:53:12.450
of these measures to ensure fairness
01:53:12.450 --> 01:53:14.920
and equity to all customers.
01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:15.753
Thank you.
01:53:15.753 --> 01:53:18.308
And with that, I
support both resolutions
01:53:18.308 --> 01:53:21.330
on extending the moratorium
on the disconnections
01:53:21.330 --> 01:53:24.360
and issuing the rulemaking
on the arrearage management.
01:53:24.360 --> 01:53:25.903
Are there any other
comments or questions
01:53:25.903 --> 01:53:29.540
from the Commissioners on item 17
01:53:29.540 --> 01:53:31.963
and item 41 before we take up a vote?
01:53:33.830 --> 01:53:36.057
Yes, Commissioner Shiroma?
01:53:36.925 --> 01:53:38.080
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:41.940
I want to express my
support for both as well.
01:53:41.940 --> 01:53:45.580
On item 17, extending
the extension moratorium
01:53:45.580 --> 01:53:48.151
and providing other protections.
01:53:48.151 --> 01:53:52.530
Big thanks to Allison
Labonte and April Mulqueen
01:53:52.530 --> 01:53:54.280
for working through
the holidays on that.
01:53:54.280 --> 01:53:59.280
It, it, it was so essential to put forth
01:53:59.347 --> 01:54:03.910
the additional efforts,
and I want to thank
01:54:03.910 --> 01:54:05.290
the Low-Income Oversight Board
01:54:05.290 --> 01:54:08.560
for agreeing to vote at
the next quarterly meeting
01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:10.669
through providing the utilities
01:54:10.669 --> 01:54:14.140
a forum for feedback on their
01:54:14.140 --> 01:54:17.200
and to present their customer
community education plans,
01:54:17.200 --> 01:54:20.870
provide a venue for some
feedback, all done in public.
01:54:20.870 --> 01:54:24.950
That will be on March 11th at 9:00 AM.
01:54:24.950 --> 01:54:28.390
It will be virtual, and
there'll be information
01:54:28.390 --> 01:54:32.960
about how to log on at LIOB.org.
01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:35.300
And at that meeting on March 11th
01:54:35.300 --> 01:54:38.130
we will hear from
Pacific Gas and Electric,
01:54:38.130 --> 01:54:41.830
San Diego Gas and Electric,
Southern California Edison,
01:54:41.830 --> 01:54:46.150
SoCalGas, and we will also
hear from the Civic Corps,
01:54:46.150 --> 01:54:48.980
Liberty Utilities, Bear Valley Electric,
01:54:48.980 --> 01:54:52.640
Southwest Gas Corporation,
Alpine Natural Gas,
01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:54.070
West Coast Gas Company,
01:54:54.070 --> 01:54:57.850
and Catalina Catalina
Island Gas Services.
01:54:57.850 --> 01:55:00.770
And for the water utilities, we'll hear
01:55:00.770 --> 01:55:05.330
from California Water Service,
California American Water,
01:55:05.330 --> 01:55:09.557
Golden State Water, Great
Oaks Water, Liberty Utilities,
01:55:09.557 --> 01:55:12.817
Apple Valley (indistinct)
Water and Park Water,
01:55:12.817 --> 01:55:16.730
San Jose Water Company,
San Gabriel Valley Water,
01:55:16.730 --> 01:55:21.690
Suburban water, and then
the class B, Bachman Water
01:55:21.690 --> 01:55:26.690
Del Oro, East Pasadena
Water Company and Elko.
01:55:26.760 --> 01:55:30.270
So it'll be a excellent
opportunity to hear
01:55:30.270 --> 01:55:32.540
from the energy companies
and the water companies
01:55:32.540 --> 01:55:37.540
on their efforts to provide
for education, outreach,
01:55:37.870 --> 01:55:42.520
and helping customers get back on track
01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:46.380
in paying their bills once
the moratorium is lifted.
01:55:46.380 --> 01:55:50.270
On the OIR, many thanks to
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:55:50.270 --> 01:55:52.350
for your leadership on this
01:55:52.350 --> 01:55:55.616
in terms of really urging us
to leave no stone unturned.
01:55:55.616 --> 01:55:58.640
I'm looking for opportunities
to provide bill relief
01:55:58.640 --> 01:56:02.230
to customers in need
and a tremendous effort
01:56:02.230 --> 01:56:06.720
by Judge Wattsaga, Amy
Misrobian, who we just heard from,
01:56:06.720 --> 01:56:08.970
Benjamin Menzies for this work.
01:56:08.970 --> 01:56:11.870
And in drafting a straw proposal
01:56:11.870 --> 01:56:14.950
take start the consideration
of these issues,
01:56:14.950 --> 01:56:16.990
so we can have further efforts
01:56:16.990 --> 01:56:18.790
in place before the moratorium ends.
01:56:19.940 --> 01:56:22.120
Thank you for the
opportunity to comment.
01:56:22.120 --> 01:56:23.073
I support both.
01:56:23.970 --> 01:56:25.040
Okie doke.
01:56:25.040 --> 01:56:27.353
Yes, Mr. Rechtschaffen?
01:56:29.360 --> 01:56:33.040
I'm also very supportive
of both of these items
01:56:33.040 --> 01:56:38.040
for the reasons that all of
my colleagues have set forth.
01:56:38.090 --> 01:56:41.640
I think we've been very
proactive as a Commissioner
01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:45.810
protecting our customers
across the whole range
01:56:45.810 --> 01:56:49.360
of our regulatory reach since
the start of the pandemic.
01:56:49.360 --> 01:56:50.930
I think it's very, very important
01:56:50.930 --> 01:56:52.990
that we're extending
those protections now
01:56:52.990 --> 01:56:55.550
into the summer because the impacts
01:56:55.550 --> 01:56:58.160
of COVID are still being
felt very dramatically,
01:56:58.160 --> 01:57:00.950
as Director Peterson highlighted
01:57:00.950 --> 01:57:04.921
and we need to get started
preparing our customers through
01:57:04.921 --> 01:57:08.114
what's going to be a very,
very difficult transition period.
01:57:08.114 --> 01:57:11.020
Those numbers are
extraordinarily frightening,
01:57:11.020 --> 01:57:14.827
that the extent of the debt
owed and the number, the amount
01:57:14.827 --> 01:57:18.823
and the extent really, really jarring.
01:57:18.823 --> 01:57:22.210
I think the new rulemaking
shows that we are
01:57:22.210 --> 01:57:24.180
we're continuing to
approach this problem
01:57:24.180 --> 01:57:27.314
with the same level of
urgency that we've had
01:57:27.314 --> 01:57:32.314
and we need to tackle head-on
this unprecedented challenge
01:57:32.490 --> 01:57:34.410
with special consideration
01:57:34.410 --> 01:57:37.720
for the most vulnerable
in our communities.
01:57:37.720 --> 01:57:39.900
I do want to echo the
point that Amy made
01:57:39.900 --> 01:57:42.086
and Commissioners Guzman Aceves made
01:57:42.086 --> 01:57:45.637
that there are many states
looking at the same issue.
01:57:45.637 --> 01:57:49.810
I know that from our meetings
at (indistinct) this week
01:57:49.810 --> 01:57:52.150
that the Oregon Public
Utilities Commission is voting
01:57:52.150 --> 01:57:54.700
on a similar resolution today.
01:57:54.700 --> 01:57:58.860
In fact, I don't think we're
we're behind anybody.
01:57:58.860 --> 01:58:02.127
I, I think we're doing as
much as anyone is doing,
01:58:02.127 --> 01:58:05.078
but we can also learn
from what other jurisdictions
01:58:05.078 --> 01:58:06.640
are doing because they
are piloting some very
01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:09.020
interesting approaches.
01:58:09.020 --> 01:58:12.650
Everyone's facing the
same set of challenges.
01:58:12.650 --> 01:58:16.063
With that, I'll be voting in
favor of both of these items.
01:58:17.353 --> 01:58:19.680
Thank you, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen, I wanted to
01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:23.120
add my voice to thanking
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:58:23.120 --> 01:58:25.750
for your incredible leadership on this.
01:58:25.750 --> 01:58:27.240
Commissioner Shiroma
is absolutely right.
01:58:27.240 --> 01:58:30.080
You would not, you have made sure
01:58:30.080 --> 01:58:33.720
we did not leave anything unturned and
01:58:33.720 --> 01:58:36.190
and, and really took
into consideration thing,
01:58:36.190 --> 01:58:37.270
everything.
01:58:37.270 --> 01:58:42.270
I greatly appreciate your
devotion and your passion
01:58:42.300 --> 01:58:44.066
and your energy towards this,
01:58:44.066 --> 01:58:49.066
these really incredibly difficult issues
01:58:49.070 --> 01:58:51.710
for our for our fellow Californians.
01:58:51.710 --> 01:58:54.700
And I agree with
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:58:54.700 --> 01:58:56.690
these numbers are pretty horrendous,
01:58:56.690 --> 01:58:58.840
that we were just stepped
01:58:58.840 --> 01:59:02.200
through by Deputy
Executive Director Randolph.
01:59:02.200 --> 01:59:06.560
So with that, I will take up of,
01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:09.530
we'll take up item 17, item 17,
01:59:09.530 --> 01:59:12.100
will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
01:59:13.807 --> 01:59:15.021
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:59:15.021 --> 01:59:16.558
Aye.
01:59:16.558 --> 01:59:19.215
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:59:19.215 --> 01:59:20.048
Aye.
01:59:21.065 --> 01:59:22.350
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:59:22.350 --> 01:59:23.980
Yes.
01:59:23.980 --> 01:59:25.530
President Batjer.
01:59:25.530 --> 01:59:30.190
Yes, item 17 is
passed unanimously.
01:59:30.190 --> 01:59:33.290
We'll now take up item 41.
01:59:33.290 --> 01:59:35.440
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
01:59:36.590 --> 01:59:37.975
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:59:37.975 --> 01:59:39.380
Aye.
01:59:39.380 --> 01:59:41.367
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:59:42.247 --> 01:59:43.840
Aye.
01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:45.500
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:59:45.500 --> 01:59:47.150
Yes.
01:59:47.150 --> 01:59:48.560
President Batjer?
01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:52.050
Yes, item 41 is
passed unanimously.
01:59:52.050 --> 01:59:55.058
Now we're turning to item 16
01:59:55.058 --> 01:59:57.558
and that is Commissioner
Rechtschaffen to present.
02:00:00.063 --> 02:00:02.700
Item 16 is a decision
02:00:02.700 --> 02:00:05.733
in our Integrated Resource
Planning Proceeding.
02:00:05.733 --> 02:00:09.843
It builds on the giant shoulders
of Commissioner Randolph
02:00:09.843 --> 02:00:12.990
who was at the helm of the IRP decision
02:00:12.990 --> 02:00:17.800
since it first launch and
did such a great job with it.
02:00:17.800 --> 02:00:19.000
We heard a lot of interest
02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:22.770
from the decision from public
comment, or is this morning.
02:00:22.770 --> 02:00:24.800
And I want to take a little time to lay
02:00:24.800 --> 02:00:26.563
out what the decision does.
02:00:27.577 --> 02:00:32.404
The decision will result in
the Commission forwarding
02:00:32.404 --> 02:00:37.171
to the Independent
System Operator, Cal ISO,
02:00:37.171 --> 02:00:39.800
so modeling inputs and assumptions
02:00:39.800 --> 02:00:44.800
and three different
so-called resource portfolios
02:00:46.010 --> 02:00:47.620
that will be included by ISO
02:00:47.620 --> 02:00:51.413
in its annual transmission
planning process.
02:00:52.990 --> 02:00:56.550
What this process at the
ISO does is analyzes the need
02:00:56.550 --> 02:00:59.870
for new transmission
investment in California
02:00:59.870 --> 02:01:04.563
and what will be estimated
costs of those investments be?
02:01:05.940 --> 02:01:09.970
The base case that
we're delivering is one
02:01:09.970 --> 02:01:14.685
that is designed to
meet our policy mandates
02:01:14.685 --> 02:01:17.560
for reducing greenhouse gas emissions
02:01:17.560 --> 02:01:21.460
and also for ensuring reliability.
02:01:21.460 --> 02:01:25.322
Just want to note a process
important process point
02:01:25.322 --> 02:01:28.660
which is that this is
actually the first time
02:01:28.660 --> 02:01:33.440
that we have adopted these scenarios
02:01:33.440 --> 02:01:37.612
and the mapping of individual projects
02:01:37.612 --> 02:01:41.120
and/or resources, two
transmission station
02:01:41.120 --> 02:01:45.010
transmission substations
that will be sent to the ISO
02:01:45.010 --> 02:01:46.960
by a full vote of the Commission.
02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:49.850
In the past, we've
done it by a letter signed
02:01:49.850 --> 02:01:52.250
by the president or by
the lead Commissioner
02:01:52.250 --> 02:01:55.290
or on, on, on IRP.
02:01:55.290 --> 02:01:56.200
And this is helpful.
02:01:56.200 --> 02:01:59.910
It's a more transparent
process that provides
02:01:59.910 --> 02:02:04.390
the parties to review and provide review
02:02:06.130 --> 02:02:07.740
and comments on the
process and make sure
02:02:07.740 --> 02:02:12.283
that those comments are
considered by the full Commission.
02:02:13.490 --> 02:02:16.220
I think it's also helpful
to provide a little bit
02:02:16.220 --> 02:02:19.322
of context about how this part
02:02:19.322 --> 02:02:24.322
of the IRP relates to our
other greenhouse gas planning
02:02:26.340 --> 02:02:28.950
and procurement efforts.
02:02:28.950 --> 02:02:33.180
And I do very much appreciate
the comments we heard today
02:02:33.180 --> 02:02:35.930
from stakeholders
throughout the process,
02:02:35.930 --> 02:02:39.653
and the depth and
intensity of, of those views.
02:02:40.570 --> 02:02:42.400
I want to make clear our commitment
02:02:42.400 --> 02:02:47.103
to dealing with climate change
is absolutely unshakable and
02:02:48.020 --> 02:02:52.560
of all the areas that we need
to decarbonize in California,
02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:56.710
we actually are by far
and away doing the best
02:02:56.710 --> 02:02:59.160
in the electricity sector.
02:02:59.160 --> 02:03:04.160
So right now, as a state, we
are at 36% renewable energy.
02:03:06.950 --> 02:03:11.290
We're close to 70% carbon free resources
02:03:11.290 --> 02:03:14.470
if you include hydro electric power,
02:03:14.470 --> 02:03:17.793
behind the meter
resources like Rooftop Solar,
02:03:19.479 --> 02:03:21.410
and our existing nuclear facility
02:03:21.410 --> 02:03:26.410
we are well on our
way to meeting SB 100's
02:03:27.830 --> 02:03:30.800
renewable portfolio standard goal
02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:35.113
which is 60% renewable energy by 2030.
02:03:36.414 --> 02:03:41.414
And over the past, roughly
10 years, GHG emissions
02:03:41.990 --> 02:03:46.990
from the power sector
are declining close to 50%.
02:03:48.950 --> 02:03:52.173
Now we know that we'll
need to procure a lot more
02:03:52.173 --> 02:03:56.180
clean electricity resources
to meet our longer term goals,
02:03:56.180 --> 02:03:58.580
including the SB 100 goal
02:03:58.580 --> 02:04:02.300
of zero carbon electricity by 2045.
02:04:02.300 --> 02:04:06.390
And we already ordering
very significant amounts
02:04:06.390 --> 02:04:08.461
of new resources to be procured
02:04:08.461 --> 02:04:13.461
and we're also signaling
that even more will be needed.
02:04:14.890 --> 02:04:18.180
For example, in 2019,
02:04:18.180 --> 02:04:21.870
we ordered the various
load serving entities to
02:04:21.870 --> 02:04:26.870
procure 3,300 megawatts
of clean energy resources.
02:04:27.500 --> 02:04:28.860
That's in process now,
02:04:28.860 --> 02:04:31.723
those would be procured
will be coming online.
02:04:32.830 --> 02:04:37.720
Very soon this year, we will be
issuing procurement guidance
02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:42.530
to replace a number of
power plants that are retiring,
02:04:42.530 --> 02:04:44.450
gas power plants that are retiring
02:04:44.450 --> 02:04:48.983
as well as the 2,280 megawatts
02:04:50.190 --> 02:04:52.820
of base load capacity at Diablo Canyon,
02:04:52.820 --> 02:04:54.193
which is also retiring.
02:04:55.380 --> 02:04:59.420
So that amount
translates into significantly
02:04:59.420 --> 02:05:04.420
more nameplate capacity of
renewable energy and storage.
02:05:06.070 --> 02:05:08.690
That additional amount
of nameplate capacity is
02:05:08.690 --> 02:05:11.620
necessary to provide the same amount
02:05:11.620 --> 02:05:16.620
of effective load carrying
capacity of the gas plants
02:05:17.150 --> 02:05:20.513
of Diablo Canyon, and you
bet are going to be retiring.
02:05:22.210 --> 02:05:26.140
And the 10-year planning
cycle that is reflected
02:05:26.140 --> 02:05:31.060
in the base case portfolio that
we are sending or we'll send
02:05:31.060 --> 02:05:34.860
to the ISO is the result
of this decision called for
02:05:34.860 --> 02:05:39.330
over 28,000, 28,000 megawatts
02:05:39.330 --> 02:05:43.770
of new incremental
greenhouse gas free resources
02:05:43.770 --> 02:05:47.340
to be procured and come online by 2030.
02:05:47.340 --> 02:05:51.050
And that's about 9,000
megawatts of new battery storage,
02:05:51.050 --> 02:05:55.336
16,000 megawatts of new
in-state renewable resources,
02:05:55.336 --> 02:06:00.336
over 1,000 megawatts
with out-of-state renewables,
02:06:00.490 --> 02:06:03.100
as well as geothermal resources
02:06:03.100 --> 02:06:05.920
and long duration storage resources.
02:06:05.920 --> 02:06:08.240
It's a lot of new resources.
02:06:08.240 --> 02:06:09.760
You heard today, and in our,
02:06:09.760 --> 02:06:13.240
in this proceeding,
some parties have argued
02:06:13.240 --> 02:06:17.570
that we should use a
lower 38 million metric
02:06:17.570 --> 02:06:20.193
planning target in this decision.
02:06:21.490 --> 02:06:22.650
We don't do that,
02:06:22.650 --> 02:06:26.351
that decision does not do
that, but it does go a long way
02:06:26.351 --> 02:06:29.837
to preparing us for that lower target.
02:06:29.837 --> 02:06:34.360
For one, all of the
transmission included
02:06:34.360 --> 02:06:37.700
to meet this 46 million
metric ton target that we
02:06:37.700 --> 02:06:40.570
adopt will also be needed
02:06:40.570 --> 02:06:43.033
for the 38 million metric ton targets.
02:06:44.470 --> 02:06:49.470
Additionally, the decision
was revised to add three sets
02:06:50.070 --> 02:06:54.230
of resources to the base
case that we were sending
02:06:54.230 --> 02:06:55.203
to the ISO.
02:06:56.500 --> 02:07:00.755
First, a one of these
is a second location
02:07:00.755 --> 02:07:03.670
for out-of-state wind resources instead
02:07:03.670 --> 02:07:07.270
of just one location for
out of state wind resources.
02:07:07.270 --> 02:07:12.270
Secondly, it added approximately
1,400 megawatts of energy
02:07:13.680 --> 02:07:17.003
only solar resources in Southern Nevada.
02:07:18.040 --> 02:07:21.575
And thirdly, it added 651 megawatts
02:07:21.575 --> 02:07:25.490
of in-state geothermal resources.
02:07:25.490 --> 02:07:28.960
And by the way, the, the
geothermal resource resources
02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:32.580
will provide important
resource diversity benefits
02:07:32.580 --> 02:07:35.183
which many parties have cited.
02:07:36.170 --> 02:07:39.887
So with those three
additions to the base case,
02:07:39.887 --> 02:07:42.490
we believe we're modeling close
02:07:42.490 --> 02:07:44.750
to all of the resources
that would actually
02:07:44.750 --> 02:07:49.415
comprise it 38 million
metric tons portfolio.
02:07:49.415 --> 02:07:51.340
And just to give you a
little bit more context,
02:07:51.340 --> 02:07:55.137
this base case goes far
beyond what was transmitted
02:07:55.137 --> 02:07:58.455
to the ISO just a year ago.
02:07:58.455 --> 02:08:03.270
For example, it doubles
the generation capacity
02:08:03.270 --> 02:08:04.850
that's included in the portfolio.
02:08:04.850 --> 02:08:06.410
Last year was last year
02:08:06.410 --> 02:08:09.990
it was 9,000 megawatts,
in this portfolio
02:08:09.990 --> 02:08:13.410
it's 18,000 megawatts, and it adds
02:08:13.410 --> 02:08:18.410
over 9,000 megawatts of
battery storage capacity.
02:08:18.682 --> 02:08:21.260
And this battery storage
capacity is mapped
02:08:21.260 --> 02:08:24.320
to specific locations
on the electric grid
02:08:24.320 --> 02:08:28.810
to minimize air pollutants in
disadvantaged communities
02:08:28.810 --> 02:08:33.289
and in non-attainment
areas to the extent possible.
02:08:33.289 --> 02:08:37.930
In total, this decision ensures
that our grid can be ready
02:08:37.930 --> 02:08:40.730
for the procurement and interconnection
02:08:40.730 --> 02:08:45.730
of 28,000 megawatts of new
resources, new resource capacity.
02:08:45.930 --> 02:08:48.770
Just for some sense of
scale and perspective,
02:08:48.770 --> 02:08:53.623
that's the equivalent of 12
Diablo Canyon nuclear plants.
02:08:54.609 --> 02:08:59.070
As the decision explains
since we directed all
02:08:59.070 --> 02:09:01.553
of the load serving entities to include
02:09:01.553 --> 02:09:06.553
in their individual IRPs,
to include plans that
02:09:09.010 --> 02:09:12.550
meet the 38 million metric
tons scenario included,
02:09:12.550 --> 02:09:15.738
as well as the 46 million
metric tons scenario.
02:09:15.738 --> 02:09:18.100
We think there's a benefiting way
02:09:18.100 --> 02:09:21.441
to see what resources they propose
02:09:21.441 --> 02:09:23.640
and where they'll be located.
02:09:23.640 --> 02:09:25.200
So the benefit of that is that
02:09:25.200 --> 02:09:27.145
next year's transmission process
02:09:27.145 --> 02:09:31.330
can take those specific,
more refined locations
02:09:31.330 --> 02:09:34.620
into account and
therefore be more accurate
02:09:34.620 --> 02:09:39.200
and informative in where they
map the transmission upgrades.
02:09:39.200 --> 02:09:40.917
We can also, and in doing that
02:09:40.917 --> 02:09:43.710
we can avoid hitting rate payers
02:09:43.710 --> 02:09:47.850
with potentially expensive
transmission upgrades
02:09:47.850 --> 02:09:50.333
in areas that may
ultimately not get developed.
02:09:51.476 --> 02:09:52.840
That's the base case.
02:09:52.840 --> 02:09:57.440
Just to finish up, we also
included very importantly
02:09:57.440 --> 02:09:59.860
in the scenario sent to
02:09:59.860 --> 02:10:03.366
the ISO two additional policy portfolios
02:10:03.366 --> 02:10:06.400
which we referred to as sensitivities.
02:10:06.400 --> 02:10:10.540
One of those meets a
38 million metric ton target
02:10:10.540 --> 02:10:11.767
by 2030, instead of
02:10:11.767 --> 02:10:15.700
the 46 million metric
ton target I described.
02:10:15.700 --> 02:10:20.700
And one that includes over
8,000 megawatts of offshore wind.
02:10:20.957 --> 02:10:25.957
And the offshore
wind sensitivity portfolio
02:10:26.400 --> 02:10:29.090
will give us very important
information that we
02:10:29.090 --> 02:10:33.440
can use to determine the
transmission costs associated
02:10:33.440 --> 02:10:37.763
with these resources
in different locations
02:10:37.763 --> 02:10:42.763
and can position these
offshore wind resources
02:10:42.900 --> 02:10:46.950
for greater, for
potential, a potential role
02:10:46.950 --> 02:10:50.630
in a deeper, longer term
de-carbonization scenario
02:10:50.630 --> 02:10:54.713
outside of this 10-year
planning cycle that we're using.
02:10:57.750 --> 02:11:02.080
At bottom, I would have
supported a 38 million metric ton
02:11:02.080 --> 02:11:04.920
in our last IRP decision.
02:11:04.920 --> 02:11:09.170
I believe today's decision
regarding the planning
02:11:09.170 --> 02:11:11.950
process puts in a very
good, puts us in a very
02:11:11.950 --> 02:11:15.410
good position to move in
that direction going forward.
02:11:15.410 --> 02:11:19.050
And I look forward to revisiting
our target later this year
02:11:19.050 --> 02:11:23.640
once we analyze the
38 million metric ton
02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:25.990
procurement plans that have been filed
02:11:25.990 --> 02:11:28.150
by each of the load serving entities.
02:11:28.150 --> 02:11:29.891
And once we issue a decision
02:11:29.891 --> 02:11:34.891
on so-called preferred
system plan later this year.
02:11:35.218 --> 02:11:39.250
I want to close by
thanking the extremely
02:11:39.250 --> 02:11:44.250
hard working team that
produced this decision.
02:11:44.690 --> 02:11:49.640
Judge Julie Fitch, the IRP
team in the Energy Division,
02:11:49.640 --> 02:11:54.640
Nathan Barson, Molly
Circle, Catalina Moslopic,
02:11:55.570 --> 02:12:00.450
I'm sorry, Moslanca, who did
a great deal of work with this
02:12:00.450 --> 02:12:02.560
I should know better than
mispronounce her name and sorry
02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:05.990
Carolyn, and Jared Ferguson,
Neil Raff, and James McGarry
02:12:05.990 --> 02:12:08.970
David Withrow with
help from Donald Brooks
02:12:08.970 --> 02:12:12.112
and his modeling team,
and also my advisors
02:12:12.112 --> 02:12:16.533
Hughley Schmidt, Sandy
Goldberg, and John Simon.
02:12:17.430 --> 02:12:20.640
With that I, I asked for
your support on this item
02:12:22.720 --> 02:12:24.029
Mr. Rechtschaffen,
02:12:24.029 --> 02:12:29.029
I will be most definitely
supporting this proposed decision
02:12:30.010 --> 02:12:32.683
and I really want to
thank you and your team.
02:12:32.683 --> 02:12:35.480
This has been an extraordinary amount
02:12:35.480 --> 02:12:38.050
of work, sustained work,
02:12:38.050 --> 02:12:42.180
and I do want to add my
thanks also to Judge Fitch
02:12:42.180 --> 02:12:46.320
and a very dedicated
Energy Division IRP team
02:12:46.320 --> 02:12:51.320
for not only this decision
for your continued work
02:12:51.770 --> 02:12:54.113
on the integrated
resource planning process.
02:12:55.470 --> 02:12:57.460
I, I don't want to go over all
02:12:57.460 --> 02:13:01.902
of the numbers that you
have gone so well over,
02:13:01.902 --> 02:13:04.790
Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
and how you have
02:13:04.790 --> 02:13:08.840
underscored our continued
devotion to climate change
02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:11.150
and realizing those the very
02:13:11.150 --> 02:13:14.350
very important GHG
goals that have been set
02:13:14.350 --> 02:13:15.980
by our state.
02:13:15.980 --> 02:13:18.270
Multiple Governors, multiple state
02:13:18.270 --> 02:13:22.380
legislators have been
devoted to these policies,
02:13:22.380 --> 02:13:23.961
it's incredibly important.
02:13:23.961 --> 02:13:26.200
So as we adopt this decision,
02:13:26.200 --> 02:13:28.600
it's important to put in the context
02:13:28.600 --> 02:13:31.640
of all of the progress that
the Commission has to
02:13:31.640 --> 02:13:34.270
drive clean energy
development in the state.
02:13:34.270 --> 02:13:38.560
In fact, since 2012, there
has been a net reduction.
02:13:38.560 --> 02:13:40.970
I think this was just
mentioned by (indistinct)
02:13:40.970 --> 02:13:44.660
nearly a 55 megawatts
of gas fire generation.
02:13:44.660 --> 02:13:47.960
And California's electricity
generation is already
02:13:47.960 --> 02:13:51.180
as you had stated, 60% carbon free.
02:13:51.180 --> 02:13:55.040
We've accomplished a fair
bit, but as my colleagues note
02:13:55.040 --> 02:13:57.350
and as some of the
callers today have noted,
02:13:57.350 --> 02:13:59.750
we do have to go farther.
02:13:59.750 --> 02:14:02.500
We know that we will
need to procure a lot more
02:14:02.500 --> 02:14:04.910
clean energy resources in the short term
02:14:04.910 --> 02:14:07.220
and the midterm, much is on the books
02:14:07.220 --> 02:14:08.793
as you have identified.
02:14:11.527 --> 02:14:14.400
And the decision is just one more step
02:14:14.400 --> 02:14:17.949
in needing a critical
policy goals of GHG
02:14:17.949 --> 02:14:21.690
emission reduction,
affordability, and reliability.
02:14:21.690 --> 02:14:25.530
And I believe reasonable
to continue to examine how
02:14:25.530 --> 02:14:29.977
aggressive we can be
in our IRP proceedings.
02:14:29.977 --> 02:14:33.810
I am glad that Commissioner
Rechtschaffen stated we have
02:14:33.810 --> 02:14:36.930
taken the step of providing
a recommended portfolio
02:14:36.930 --> 02:14:40.420
of resources to the
California ISO, the California
02:14:40.420 --> 02:14:43.490
Independent System Operator
by a vote of the Commission.
02:14:43.490 --> 02:14:44.323
This is important.
02:14:44.323 --> 02:14:47.630
This transparency reflects the
importance of these planning
02:14:47.630 --> 02:14:51.530
scenarios as we work with
as with the ISO in our attempt
02:14:51.530 --> 02:14:54.870
to balance utilization of current
transmission transmission
02:14:54.870 --> 02:14:57.430
systems, with planning, whether in terms
02:14:57.430 --> 02:14:59.980
of identifying preferable
resource locations
02:14:59.980 --> 02:15:02.800
or optimal transmission
upgrades, or if you do
02:15:02.800 --> 02:15:06.090
that supports the new resources
needed to meet our goals.
02:15:06.090 --> 02:15:08.797
To that end, I would like to
thank the numerous parties
02:15:08.797 --> 02:15:12.230
who have continued to
engage in the IRP proceedings
02:15:12.230 --> 02:15:14.770
and have debated and
grappled with the complexities
02:15:14.770 --> 02:15:16.431
of the system planning.
02:15:16.431 --> 02:15:21.431
And I would repeat as
Commissioner Rechtschaffen said,
02:15:21.610 --> 02:15:24.450
we are we have set our set the stage
02:15:24.450 --> 02:15:28.030
for looking at the NMT targets
02:15:28.030 --> 02:15:33.030
and lowering them, and
we have set forth on the path.
02:15:33.480 --> 02:15:36.530
So in closing, I want to
express my thanks once again
02:15:36.530 --> 02:15:38.610
to this tremendous effort and I'll turn
02:15:38.610 --> 02:15:41.590
to my fellow Commissioners
for further comments
02:15:41.590 --> 02:15:45.313
and any questions on item 16.
02:15:51.560 --> 02:15:53.057
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:15:54.047 --> 02:15:55.710
Oh, thank you, President Batjer
02:15:55.710 --> 02:15:57.805
and thank you,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:15:57.805 --> 02:16:02.805
I know very much so that
you support a lower goal
02:16:03.444 --> 02:16:08.190
to the RFP process
and, and it's great to hear,
02:16:08.190 --> 02:16:11.570
President Batjer, your
support for that moving forward.
02:16:11.570 --> 02:16:16.280
I think clearly I'm also in
support of that minimum
02:16:16.280 --> 02:16:21.177
a 30 million metric ton, 30
million metric tons of target,
02:16:22.630 --> 02:16:23.998
if not even lower.
02:16:23.998 --> 02:16:26.760
To expedite in getting into our goals
02:16:26.760 --> 02:16:30.670
and I want to thank
the public and today,
02:16:30.670 --> 02:16:33.210
but also in all the comments we received
02:16:33.210 --> 02:16:37.171
on this issue, and
really the ability to align,
02:16:37.171 --> 02:16:40.660
the ability for us to update these goals
02:16:40.660 --> 02:16:44.580
and be more ambitious with
the ISO's planning process.
02:16:44.580 --> 02:16:47.390
Something that's really tricky in terms
02:16:47.390 --> 02:16:49.480
of kind of being midterm
02:16:49.480 --> 02:16:52.703
with receiving our plans from the LSE's.
02:16:54.360 --> 02:16:57.741
I really want to thank you for
the revisions that were made.
02:16:57.741 --> 02:17:01.610
I think it, it provides me
enough conflict to know
02:17:01.610 --> 02:17:03.870
that we can update this goal
02:17:03.870 --> 02:17:06.360
and how the transmission
needed to meet that goal.
02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:10.240
I particularly want to call
out what you did already
02:17:10.240 --> 02:17:14.660
but reiterate the importance
of enhanced, excuse me,
02:17:14.660 --> 02:17:18.370
of additional geo thermal in the state.
02:17:18.370 --> 02:17:22.560
And also I want to
acknowledge the inclusion
02:17:22.560 --> 02:17:26.840
of the (indistinct) storage
project in the analysis as well.
02:17:26.840 --> 02:17:28.660
From my perspective,
02:17:28.660 --> 02:17:31.400
those projects are particularly critical
02:17:31.400 --> 02:17:34.230
for us meeting our more ambitious goals.
02:17:34.230 --> 02:17:37.930
So I very much thank you for
including explicit commitment
02:17:37.930 --> 02:17:41.320
to considering those directions to ISO
02:17:41.320 --> 02:17:43.220
and I look forward to supporting this.
02:17:44.860 --> 02:17:46.390
Thank you, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
02:17:46.390 --> 02:17:47.840
Commissioner Shiroma, please.
02:17:48.930 --> 02:17:50.150
Yes, thank you.
02:17:50.150 --> 02:17:52.860
For all the reasons
outlined by everyone else,
02:17:52.860 --> 02:17:56.490
I am supporting this
decision, you know, it's
02:17:56.490 --> 02:17:59.403
it is a complex roadmap.
02:17:59.403 --> 02:18:03.966
We have a symbiotic
relationship with the California ISO.
02:18:03.966 --> 02:18:07.870
I appreciate that this
is not only a roadmap,
02:18:07.870 --> 02:18:11.866
but also providing for flexibility,
02:18:11.866 --> 02:18:16.233
being nimble in face
of new opportunities.
02:18:17.690 --> 02:18:22.690
And that we know that
with any of these efforts
02:18:22.910 --> 02:18:26.000
there is a cost to the customers,
02:18:26.000 --> 02:18:29.860
and how do we reconcile
while keeping on pace?
02:18:29.860 --> 02:18:31.550
I appreciate that.
02:18:31.550 --> 02:18:34.540
The decision includes
important emissions
02:18:34.540 --> 02:18:39.540
free factors going forward,
and just look forward to working
02:18:40.160 --> 02:18:43.879
with everyone on accomplishing
everything that's outlined.
02:18:43.879 --> 02:18:44.712
Thank you.
02:18:47.130 --> 02:18:49.720
Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:18:49.720 --> 02:18:54.720
Okay, seeing no other
questions on item 16.
02:18:54.800 --> 02:18:57.263
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
02:18:58.570 --> 02:19:00.500
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:19:00.500 --> 02:19:01.333
Aye.
02:19:02.310 --> 02:19:04.755
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:19:04.755 --> 02:19:05.588
Aye.
02:19:07.086 --> 02:19:08.610
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:19:08.610 --> 02:19:09.443
Yes.
02:19:10.764 --> 02:19:12.280
President Batjer?
02:19:12.280 --> 02:19:16.450
Yes, the vote on
item 16 is unanimous.
02:19:16.450 --> 02:19:19.340
Now turning to item 40.
02:19:19.340 --> 02:19:21.280
I will be introducing item 40,
02:19:21.280 --> 02:19:24.410
which is a proposed
decision that directs PG
02:19:24.410 --> 02:19:29.410
and E, SCE, and NSG and
E to contract for capacity.
02:19:30.120 --> 02:19:34.620
It can be online for
Summer 2021, to serve peak
02:19:34.620 --> 02:19:37.350
and net peak demand.
02:19:37.350 --> 02:19:38.770
As everyone is very aware,
02:19:38.770 --> 02:19:42.417
in August and was mentioned
several times this morning
02:19:42.417 --> 02:19:44.890
the comment threads,
in August of last year
02:19:44.890 --> 02:19:49.890
Cal ISO initiated roading
rotating outages across the state
02:19:50.450 --> 02:19:53.990
due to extreme heat
events that affected much
02:19:53.990 --> 02:19:56.160
of the Western United States.
02:19:56.160 --> 02:19:59.970
Following these events,
the CPUC, the CEC,
02:19:59.970 --> 02:20:03.840
and Cal ISO completed
a root cause analysis
02:20:03.840 --> 02:20:07.210
and determined that swift
action was needed at each
02:20:07.210 --> 02:20:12.020
of our agencies to avoid a
recurrence of those outages
02:20:12.020 --> 02:20:16.380
were we to experience a similar
weather event this summer.
02:20:16.380 --> 02:20:18.530
We put, we took swift action
02:20:18.530 --> 02:20:23.240
at the Commission to open a
rulemaking last fall, thankfully
02:20:23.240 --> 02:20:27.050
under the guidance of
Commissioner Randolph,
02:20:27.050 --> 02:20:30.560
to explore every demand
side, supply side opportunity
02:20:30.560 --> 02:20:34.736
available that could be
online to help balance demand
02:20:34.736 --> 02:20:37.540
and supply for this summer.
02:20:37.540 --> 02:20:39.990
This proceeding has been moving quickly
02:20:39.990 --> 02:20:42.870
because we must move quickly.
02:20:42.870 --> 02:20:45.510
There is not a day to waste.
02:20:45.510 --> 02:20:48.100
Summer is literally around the corner.
02:20:48.100 --> 02:20:52.434
If we are speaking in
regulatory frame work timelines,
02:20:52.434 --> 02:20:56.110
customers deserve a reliable grid
02:20:56.110 --> 02:20:58.330
and they deserve a
regulatory body that will be
02:20:58.330 --> 02:21:00.020
mobilized to do everything
02:21:00.020 --> 02:21:03.035
in its power to ensure that we have one.
02:21:03.035 --> 02:21:04.580
I view this as
02:21:04.580 --> 02:21:09.500
both my biggest priority
and our basic responsibility.
02:21:09.500 --> 02:21:13.300
And today's decision
represents a concrete result
02:21:13.300 --> 02:21:15.430
of our efforts to move quickly
02:21:15.430 --> 02:21:19.290
to ensure reliability for
our customers this summer,
02:21:19.290 --> 02:21:23.530
while we are also revisiting
our overall resource
02:21:23.530 --> 02:21:27.640
adequacy approach for 2022 and beyond
02:21:27.640 --> 02:21:30.393
in our resource adequacy proceeding.
02:21:31.330 --> 02:21:33.830
I'd like to go quickly
through the main elements
02:21:33.830 --> 02:21:36.210
of the proposed decision
that I hope will clear
02:21:36.210 --> 02:21:39.180
up some of the questions
that were asked this morning,
02:21:39.180 --> 02:21:40.890
and then reflect on a bit
02:21:40.890 --> 02:21:43.450
about the broader
effort of what we're doing
02:21:43.450 --> 02:21:47.960
in this proceeding and doing
at the Commission in general,
02:21:47.960 --> 02:21:51.010
to maintain a clean, reliable grid
02:21:51.010 --> 02:21:54.493
because this proceeding
isn't happening in a vacuum.
02:21:55.350 --> 02:22:00.350
This PD authorizes PG
and E, SCE, and SDG and E
02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:04.170
to contract for incremental capacity
02:22:04.170 --> 02:22:07.450
that can be online by Summer 2021,
02:22:07.450 --> 02:22:11.590
from the following resources,
incremental upgrades
02:22:11.590 --> 02:22:15.210
from existing power plants
through efficiency upgrades
02:22:15.210 --> 02:22:18.275
or revised power purchase agreements,
02:22:18.275 --> 02:22:22.363
(indistinct) generation
that is at risk of retirement,
02:22:23.340 --> 02:22:26.445
incremental energy storage capacity,
02:22:26.445 --> 02:22:29.923
and for firm, forward energy imports.
02:22:31.016 --> 02:22:33.650
The proposed decision
also clarifies that
02:22:33.650 --> 02:22:35.927
while the utilities may seek contracts
02:22:35.927 --> 02:22:39.784
with all of these resources, the
Commission has a preference
02:22:39.784 --> 02:22:43.570
for storage contracts
and efficiency upgrades,
02:22:43.570 --> 02:22:47.861
and or contract terms
that are shorter in duration.
02:22:47.861 --> 02:22:51.910
Given the necessity of moving quickly,
02:22:51.910 --> 02:22:54.714
it says procurement
parameters that must be met
02:22:54.714 --> 02:22:58.700
and if met, the utilities
can submit the contracts
02:22:58.700 --> 02:23:02.130
for the energy division
review by next Monday,
02:23:02.130 --> 02:23:06.840
February 15th, through
a tier one advice letter,
02:23:06.840 --> 02:23:09.160
if it's a power purchase agreement,
02:23:09.160 --> 02:23:13.263
and a tier two advice
letter, if it's utility owned.
02:23:14.140 --> 02:23:17.960
Putting this PD in the
larger context, as we should
02:23:17.960 --> 02:23:20.748
as you just discussed
on the previous item,
02:23:20.748 --> 02:23:25.070
the TPP proposed decision,
California is in the midst
02:23:25.070 --> 02:23:29.165
of an energy transition and
has aggressive and necessary,
02:23:29.165 --> 02:23:33.820
I might add, and attainable
goals to decarbonize
02:23:33.820 --> 02:23:36.270
our electric system, and the Commission
02:23:36.270 --> 02:23:39.080
through its integrated
resource planning process
02:23:39.080 --> 02:23:43.200
as us on a past significant
in, are they significant
02:23:43.200 --> 02:23:46.510
and continued growth in
the clean energy resources,
02:23:46.510 --> 02:23:49.463
as Commissioner Rechtschaffen
outlined a moment ago.
02:23:50.440 --> 02:23:53.160
While we are decarbonizing the grid,
02:23:53.160 --> 02:23:55.243
we're also experiencing the effects
02:23:55.243 --> 02:24:00.243
that climate change has on
weather patterns and energy use,
02:24:00.650 --> 02:24:04.090
requiring we adjust
and revisit in real time
02:24:04.090 --> 02:24:06.900
some of our assumptions
on how to balance supply
02:24:06.900 --> 02:24:10.300
and demand given these
extreme weather events.
02:24:10.300 --> 02:24:12.930
And we're having to act in real time
02:24:12.930 --> 02:24:16.060
to ensure we have enough
demand side resources
02:24:16.060 --> 02:24:19.053
and supply side resources
to keep the lights on.
02:24:20.070 --> 02:24:22.844
That is what we're
doing in this decision
02:24:22.844 --> 02:24:25.600
and what and that is what we will
02:24:25.600 --> 02:24:28.580
we will also, excuse me, be trying to do
02:24:28.580 --> 02:24:32.650
in a subsequent decision
that we'll be issuing
02:24:32.650 --> 02:24:36.328
in a in this proceeding in March.
02:24:36.328 --> 02:24:38.950
So this is one step.
02:24:38.950 --> 02:24:41.220
The second step will be in March.
02:24:41.220 --> 02:24:44.260
Strategies for both
decreasing energy demand
02:24:44.260 --> 02:24:48.710
and increase in supply are
being pursued in this proceeding.
02:24:48.710 --> 02:24:51.479
Well, for practical reasons,
we had to issue this PD
02:24:51.479 --> 02:24:55.090
which addresses supply
side resources first,
02:24:55.090 --> 02:25:00.090
the fact that this came first
doesn't reflect a preference
02:25:00.590 --> 02:25:04.020
for the supply side resources
for solving this problem.
02:25:04.020 --> 02:25:05.958
It actually is quite the opposite.
02:25:05.958 --> 02:25:09.730
The demand side
resources are my priority
02:25:09.730 --> 02:25:12.160
for getting us most of the way there
02:25:12.160 --> 02:25:14.730
for ensuring reliability
for next summer.
02:25:14.730 --> 02:25:18.628
And those will be the
focus of the March decision.
02:25:18.628 --> 02:25:20.950
The reality is however,
02:25:20.950 --> 02:25:22.900
that we can't solve the summer's problem
02:25:22.900 --> 02:25:25.500
with only demand side resources
02:25:25.500 --> 02:25:27.570
or only supply side resources.
02:25:27.570 --> 02:25:29.060
We need both.
02:25:29.060 --> 02:25:32.930
And we need adjustments
at the Cal ISO as well.
02:25:32.930 --> 02:25:37.020
We are not in a position
to get to choose only
02:25:37.020 --> 02:25:40.450
our preferred resource
in this very moment.
02:25:40.450 --> 02:25:42.460
So while I understand the valid concerns
02:25:42.460 --> 02:25:44.330
about potential invitations
02:25:44.330 --> 02:25:47.310
of authorizing incremental capacity
02:25:47.310 --> 02:25:50.610
from our existing
generating fleet, I feel strongly
02:25:50.610 --> 02:25:53.860
that we need to keep options
on the table for this summer
02:25:53.860 --> 02:25:56.800
in order to fulfill our
commitments to customers.
02:25:56.800 --> 02:25:58.780
And I am convinced that because
02:25:58.780 --> 02:26:02.220
of the very short timeframe
between now and the summer,
02:26:02.220 --> 02:26:04.820
any additional capacity
that utilities may be
02:26:04.820 --> 02:26:07.418
able to identify will be minimal.
02:26:07.418 --> 02:26:11.660
Part of our ability to
successfully decarbonize our grid
02:26:11.660 --> 02:26:15.580
long-term, depends on
maintaining its reliability
02:26:15.580 --> 02:26:19.320
in the short term, while
we identify the correct rules
02:26:19.320 --> 02:26:21.620
and resources to get us there.
02:26:21.620 --> 02:26:24.590
Well, as I noted, we are only focused
02:26:24.590 --> 02:26:28.730
on the Summer of 2021,
in this proposed decision.
02:26:28.730 --> 02:26:32.280
There are also real realities, concerns
02:26:32.280 --> 02:26:37.160
real reality concerns that
would remain into 2022.
02:26:37.160 --> 02:26:42.100
And we intend to provide
additional guidance regarding 2022
02:26:42.100 --> 02:26:46.090
in the March decision in
this proceeding as well.
02:26:46.090 --> 02:26:48.480
A tremendous amount of work has been put
02:26:48.480 --> 02:26:51.260
to providing this proposal and comments
02:26:51.260 --> 02:26:54.360
for this proceeding on both
demand and supply approaches.
02:26:54.360 --> 02:26:56.991
And I am grateful for
the active participation
02:26:56.991 --> 02:27:01.690
of the many parties on
this expedited timeframe,
02:27:01.690 --> 02:27:03.330
but also like to extend
02:27:03.330 --> 02:27:06.100
since my sincere thanks and admiration
02:27:06.100 --> 02:27:09.960
to the excellent Administrative
Law Judge Brian Stevens
02:27:09.960 --> 02:27:12.852
and to the many staff and legal,
02:27:12.852 --> 02:27:14.470
and energy division who contributed
02:27:14.470 --> 02:27:16.560
to the proposed decision specifically;
02:27:16.560 --> 02:27:18.670
Ed Randolph, (indistinct) Scala,
02:27:18.670 --> 02:27:21.010
Michelle Tito, Jimmie Gannon,
02:27:21.010 --> 02:27:23.910
Simone Brandt, and Linen Powell,
02:27:23.910 --> 02:27:27.913
Jason Ortega, Erin Jacob
Smith, and Candace Maury.
02:27:27.913 --> 02:27:30.670
They have all put in
a significant amount
02:27:30.670 --> 02:27:33.906
of hours and nights, and
weekends and holidays.
02:27:33.906 --> 02:27:37.303
And thank you to my
Advisor, Anen Vorwasilla,
02:27:38.640 --> 02:27:41.833
and my Chief of Staff, Shannon O'Rourke,
02:27:42.722 --> 02:27:44.990
who has also put in many long hours.
02:27:44.990 --> 02:27:46.390
So thank you all very much.
02:27:46.390 --> 02:27:49.114
With that, I request my
fellow Commissioners'
02:27:49.114 --> 02:27:51.333
support for this item.
02:27:53.170 --> 02:27:56.700
I will now open up for
any questions or comments
02:27:56.700 --> 02:27:58.003
on item 40.
02:28:01.740 --> 02:28:03.260
Oh, seeing one.
02:28:03.260 --> 02:28:04.610
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:28:06.550 --> 02:28:08.280
Well, hey, thank
you, President Batjer.
02:28:08.280 --> 02:28:12.180
I just to reiterate many of
what much of what you said
02:28:12.180 --> 02:28:13.740
and then response to so much
02:28:13.740 --> 02:28:18.740
of the critical public
comment today at, and
02:28:18.850 --> 02:28:22.830
and to really just agree with
much of a public comment
02:28:22.830 --> 02:28:25.820
that there are many
other aspects that the root
02:28:25.820 --> 02:28:29.760
cause analysis found including
many of which they outlined
02:28:29.760 --> 02:28:32.230
in their comments that
we're committed to working
02:28:32.230 --> 02:28:36.280
with our sister agency
on, particularly at the ISO
02:28:36.280 --> 02:28:40.697
in terms of some of their
markets for exports and imports
02:28:40.697 --> 02:28:43.210
and all of what was
mentioned already this morning
02:28:43.210 --> 02:28:44.830
that we are committed to resolving
02:28:44.830 --> 02:28:48.500
and has been already
in part largely resolved.
02:28:48.500 --> 02:28:50.690
And also the recognition
02:28:50.690 --> 02:28:55.690
that we do need to urge
greater enhanced penalty for
02:28:55.860 --> 02:28:58.360
as a lack of performance
of some of these resources.
02:28:58.360 --> 02:29:02.020
So just to say that those
things that are outside
02:29:02.020 --> 02:29:05.020
of this particular decision
are also concurrently
02:29:05.020 --> 02:29:09.750
moving forward and, and
appreciate the public's recognition
02:29:10.660 --> 02:29:13.245
of the importance of
dealing with those as well.
02:29:13.245 --> 02:29:17.310
But they a unfortunate
situation that you've pointed
02:29:17.310 --> 02:29:18.470
out so well, President Batjer,
02:29:18.470 --> 02:29:22.880
of the need for these
resources for for the time being.
02:29:22.880 --> 02:29:23.880
Thank you very much.
02:29:25.550 --> 02:29:27.403
Thank you, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
02:29:27.403 --> 02:29:30.250
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:29:30.250 --> 02:29:31.470
I completely agree
02:29:31.470 --> 02:29:34.360
with what Commissioner
Guzman Aceves just said
02:29:34.360 --> 02:29:36.240
and I am what the comment was said.
02:29:36.240 --> 02:29:39.270
It's, it's very important to underscore
02:29:39.270 --> 02:29:42.080
that this is one piece
of the puzzle and that we
02:29:42.080 --> 02:29:46.200
are vigorously pursuing
all the other action items
02:29:46.200 --> 02:29:49.194
that stem from the root cause analysis.
02:29:49.194 --> 02:29:50.890
I support the decision
02:29:50.890 --> 02:29:54.544
for all the reasons that
President Batjer, you outlined.
02:29:54.544 --> 02:29:58.040
These are urgently
needed steps to ensure we
02:29:58.040 --> 02:30:01.970
don't endure roading rotating outages
02:30:01.970 --> 02:30:05.271
again this summer,
like we did last summer
02:30:05.271 --> 02:30:07.040
with all the intended
health, safety, economic
02:30:07.040 --> 02:30:08.883
and other impacts.
02:30:08.883 --> 02:30:12.850
I want to underscore also
two things that you said,
02:30:12.850 --> 02:30:17.191
President Batjer, the decision
expresses a preference
02:30:17.191 --> 02:30:19.698
for energy storage resources
02:30:19.698 --> 02:30:22.726
as opposed to natural gas facilities,
02:30:22.726 --> 02:30:26.830
and the decision also
expresses a preference for strong
02:30:26.830 --> 02:30:30.150
for short-term contracts
in the case of natural gas
02:30:30.150 --> 02:30:32.430
as opposed to longer term contracts.
02:30:32.430 --> 02:30:35.910
And as President
Batjer also indicated, we
02:30:35.910 --> 02:30:39.990
we really don't envision
long-term gas contracts resulting
02:30:39.990 --> 02:30:43.410
from this authorization, except perhaps
02:30:43.410 --> 02:30:46.473
in a very narrow
unexpected circumstances.
02:30:47.340 --> 02:30:50.140
I also appreciate the
very large Energy Division
02:30:50.140 --> 02:30:52.840
team that worked on
this, they did excellent work
02:30:52.840 --> 02:30:56.613
in a very short timeframe
over the holidays to
02:30:56.613 --> 02:30:59.100
make sure we could have a timely ruling.
02:30:59.100 --> 02:30:59.933
Thank you.
02:31:01.980 --> 02:31:03.300
Thank you, Commissioner.
02:31:03.300 --> 02:31:04.693
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:31:06.350 --> 02:31:07.641
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:31:07.641 --> 02:31:09.190
To you and Judge Enrizzo,
02:31:09.190 --> 02:31:12.030
and the team that you
outlined for the hard work
02:31:12.030 --> 02:31:14.923
on this is the decision
I will be supporting it.
02:31:16.850 --> 02:31:20.610
This decision formalizes,
your December 28th
02:31:20.610 --> 02:31:23.295
signed Commissioner ruling,
which got the ball rolling.
02:31:23.295 --> 02:31:25.790
I appreciate that last month we heard
02:31:25.790 --> 02:31:30.227
an in-depth presentation
on the root cause analysis
02:31:30.227 --> 02:31:35.227
that outlined the roles that we have,
02:31:36.100 --> 02:31:39.050
that our sister agencies have
at the Energy Commission,
02:31:39.050 --> 02:31:41.490
at the California ISO.
02:31:41.490 --> 02:31:45.290
It really highlighted that there are
02:31:47.660 --> 02:31:52.020
very finely tuned level
of effort that is needed.
02:31:52.020 --> 02:31:56.300
It's a complex effort
to assure a reliable grid
02:31:56.300 --> 02:31:57.939
across California.
02:31:57.939 --> 02:32:02.440
We are overlaid by the
realities of climate change being
02:32:02.440 --> 02:32:05.660
upon us far sooner than
many would have predicted.
02:32:05.660 --> 02:32:09.174
And with that, that
brings new challenges.
02:32:09.174 --> 02:32:14.174
I also appreciated that from
the presentation last month,
02:32:14.180 --> 02:32:16.940
as Commissioner Guzman Aceves outlined,
02:32:16.940 --> 02:32:20.830
there are additional tools
that we need to provide
02:32:20.830 --> 02:32:25.830
to our staff, enforcement
tools for assuring
02:32:26.930 --> 02:32:31.760
that when commitments are
made and monies are exchanged
02:32:31.760 --> 02:32:34.510
that those commitments do come through
02:32:34.510 --> 02:32:37.750
as we need to be able to rely upon.
02:32:37.750 --> 02:32:41.501
And I also appreciate
that in this entire effort
02:32:41.501 --> 02:32:46.501
as we are hardly three
months shy of this next summer,
02:32:47.760 --> 02:32:50.590
it's such a short period
of time, three months shy,
02:32:50.590 --> 02:32:55.490
that in issuing this a
proposed decision you've
02:32:55.490 --> 02:32:59.460
kept a keen eye that we must
continue to make progress
02:32:59.460 --> 02:33:02.950
on clean energy mandates to avoid even
02:33:02.950 --> 02:33:06.770
harsher climate change in our future.
02:33:06.770 --> 02:33:09.680
So I will be supporting this decision.
02:33:09.680 --> 02:33:10.513
Thank you.
02:33:12.608 --> 02:33:13.441
Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma
02:33:13.441 --> 02:33:15.560
and I thank all of my
Commissioners for your
02:33:15.560 --> 02:33:20.090
your very helpful and
supportive comments.
02:33:20.090 --> 02:33:21.700
With that, will the agenda clerk
02:33:21.700 --> 02:33:24.533
please call the roll on item number 40?
02:33:26.301 --> 02:33:27.708
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:33:27.708 --> 02:33:28.541
Aye.
02:33:29.697 --> 02:33:31.460
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:33:31.460 --> 02:33:32.293
Aye.
02:33:33.197 --> 02:33:34.878
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:33:34.878 --> 02:33:35.711
Yes.
02:33:36.661 --> 02:33:38.535
President Batjer?
02:33:38.535 --> 02:33:41.260
Yes, item 40 has
passed unanimously.
02:33:41.260 --> 02:33:44.380
Turning now to item 43,
which is also assigned to me
02:33:44.380 --> 02:33:48.150
is a decision adopting
resiliency strategies
02:33:48.150 --> 02:33:50.630
for wire line providers.
02:33:50.630 --> 02:33:53.360
Californians rely on their
communication services
02:33:53.360 --> 02:33:56.170
to receive alerts from
emergency responders
02:33:56.170 --> 02:33:59.700
and access vital evacuation websites.
02:33:59.700 --> 02:34:02.620
Losing this critical
lifeline during these ever
02:34:02.620 --> 02:34:07.130
increasing times of
emergency is not acceptable.
02:34:07.130 --> 02:34:10.377
It is, it is dangerous and
distressing for the public
02:34:10.377 --> 02:34:12.760
and it cripples the
efforts of our emergency
02:34:12.760 --> 02:34:17.330
responders to coordinate
disaster response and evacuations.
02:34:17.330 --> 02:34:20.450
This decision requires
wire line providers to
02:34:20.450 --> 02:34:24.020
develop comprehensive
communications resiliency plans
02:34:24.020 --> 02:34:27.478
to ensure necessary
planning network investments.
02:34:27.478 --> 02:34:32.090
Adopts a 72-hour backup
power requirements
02:34:32.090 --> 02:34:36.500
for wire line providers
to ensure a minimal level
02:34:36.500 --> 02:34:39.300
of servicing in tier two and tier three
02:34:39.300 --> 02:34:43.390
high fire threat
districts during disasters
02:34:43.390 --> 02:34:45.209
or power outages.
02:34:45.209 --> 02:34:48.150
Direct wire line providers to
02:34:48.150 --> 02:34:50.810
provide their coordination
improve, excuse me,
02:34:50.810 --> 02:34:55.100
improve their coordination
with emergency responders,
02:34:55.100 --> 02:34:58.680
communicate outages to
their customers and the public,
02:34:58.680 --> 02:35:02.550
and perform annual emergency
preparedness exercises.
02:35:02.550 --> 02:35:05.920
This decision was
challenging, very challenging.
02:35:05.920 --> 02:35:09.312
We took into deep consideration
the views of the party.
02:35:09.312 --> 02:35:12.760
Ultimately, we determined
that public safety
02:35:12.760 --> 02:35:16.510
is our top most concern
and the redundancy that
02:35:16.510 --> 02:35:18.600
the wire line networks provide
02:35:18.600 --> 02:35:21.320
in addition to the wireless network
02:35:21.320 --> 02:35:24.230
is essential to our state safety.
02:35:24.230 --> 02:35:26.290
Our state's critical facilities,
02:35:26.290 --> 02:35:29.450
such as hospitals, police
stations, fire stations,
02:35:29.450 --> 02:35:33.640
and other utilities rely
on wire line networks.
02:35:33.640 --> 02:35:36.510
Our state's wireless networks rely
02:35:36.510 --> 02:35:40.130
on wire line networks
for their back haul.
02:35:40.130 --> 02:35:44.880
And many communities have
limited or no wireless coverage.
02:35:44.880 --> 02:35:47.520
We have heard directly
from these communities,
02:35:47.520 --> 02:35:50.338
Topega, Sleepy
Hollow, (indistinct) Dune,
02:35:50.338 --> 02:35:52.060
Bonny Dune, and many others
02:35:52.060 --> 02:35:54.970
in the course of this proceeding.
02:35:54.970 --> 02:35:57.360
These communities
depend on wire line networks
02:35:57.360 --> 02:36:00.270
to call loved ones, to
reach nine-one-one,
02:36:00.270 --> 02:36:03.961
and to receive emergency
information and evacuation orders.
02:36:03.961 --> 02:36:06.110
When these networks go out,
02:36:06.110 --> 02:36:08.410
they are left literally with nothing
02:36:08.410 --> 02:36:12.600
and therefore, their
safety is in great question.
02:36:12.600 --> 02:36:14.480
We hope that these requirements
02:36:14.480 --> 02:36:18.430
as well as requirements
adopted this past July,
02:36:18.430 --> 02:36:21.880
the wireless providers,
will keep California safer
02:36:21.880 --> 02:36:26.880
during future wildfires,
disasters, and PSPS events.
02:36:27.085 --> 02:36:29.200
We will be watching closely
02:36:29.200 --> 02:36:31.960
and we will be prepared to
modify these requirements
02:36:31.960 --> 02:36:33.943
as needed in the future.
02:36:34.920 --> 02:36:36.450
I would like to thank the parties
02:36:36.450 --> 02:36:39.143
to this proceeding for
their detailed comments.
02:36:39.143 --> 02:36:44.143
I would also like to say Kayla
and Julian Enzo (indistinct),
02:36:46.728 --> 02:36:51.728
Raisa Hernandez from the
Communications Division,
02:36:52.017 --> 02:36:57.017
Ella Michifit, and Lindsay
Brown from Legal Division,
02:36:57.191 --> 02:36:59.020
the extremely hardworking
02:36:59.020 --> 02:37:01.880
and energetic Administrative Law Judge,
02:37:01.880 --> 02:37:05.300
Judge Paul Enrizzo, and my superb
02:37:05.300 --> 02:37:08.603
and very hardworking
Adviser, Michael Malaney.
02:37:09.653 --> 02:37:13.657
And with that, I ask
your support of this item
02:37:15.384 --> 02:37:18.190
and I will turn to my
fellow Commissioners now
02:37:18.190 --> 02:37:20.263
for any of their comments or questions.
02:37:25.040 --> 02:37:25.943
Okay, sorry.
02:37:26.824 --> 02:37:28.630
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:37:28.630 --> 02:37:30.150
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:37:30.150 --> 02:37:32.360
By the way, I need to make a correction
02:37:32.360 --> 02:37:34.650
on that last item, thank
you to Judge Steven
02:37:34.650 --> 02:37:37.370
and here, thank you to Judge Enrizzo.
02:37:37.370 --> 02:37:41.630
There's a common theme
in today's regular agenda
02:37:41.630 --> 02:37:45.650
of really extensive
efforts towards providing
02:37:45.650 --> 02:37:49.380
for protections, reliability,
02:37:49.380 --> 02:37:54.380
as a seamless source
of energy, electricity,
02:37:55.050 --> 02:37:57.990
what have you and this one,
02:37:57.990 --> 02:38:02.470
is another essential
piece going forward.
02:38:02.470 --> 02:38:04.760
We hadn't previously
adopted a series of customer
02:38:04.760 --> 02:38:07.110
protection requirements
from wireless communication
02:38:07.110 --> 02:38:09.490
service providers last year
02:38:09.490 --> 02:38:12.210
and it's imperative
we turn our attention
02:38:12.210 --> 02:38:14.962
to our wire line providers as well.
02:38:14.962 --> 02:38:19.962
These are essential for
our consumers participating
02:38:20.090 --> 02:38:23.830
in our Lifeline Program, who
are dependent on the reliable
02:38:23.830 --> 02:38:27.328
phone service in times
of emergencies and rely
02:38:27.328 --> 02:38:30.960
on this program for
communication services.
02:38:30.960 --> 02:38:35.960
I'm glad to support the PD
that implements backup power
02:38:35.960 --> 02:38:40.340
requirements to provide
for that level of service
02:38:40.340 --> 02:38:43.840
and coverage during
disasters and outages,
02:38:43.840 --> 02:38:48.840
while also turning an eye to
exploring ways for the future
02:38:49.290 --> 02:38:52.172
to transition to renewable generation
02:38:52.172 --> 02:38:56.170
for these essential
backup power resources.
02:38:56.170 --> 02:38:59.093
So thank you and I'm
glad to support the petition.
02:39:00.230 --> 02:39:01.510
Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:39:01.510 --> 02:39:05.200
Thanks for the correction of
Judge Russo from Judge Stevens.
02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:07.530
I didn't want to mention
it, but Judge Enrizzo
02:39:07.530 --> 02:39:10.284
he has quite a, quite a docket as it is.
02:39:10.284 --> 02:39:11.117
(laughs)
02:39:11.117 --> 02:39:15.090
I was gonna say, Judge
Enrizzo is extremely hardworking,
02:39:15.090 --> 02:39:17.600
but he can't do that, even he can't do
02:39:17.600 --> 02:39:19.380
that many cases all at once.
02:39:20.680 --> 02:39:21.999
I know.
02:39:21.999 --> 02:39:24.517
Cliff, did you want to say something?
02:39:24.517 --> 02:39:25.350
Yeah, I do.
02:39:25.350 --> 02:39:27.090
I want to thank, President Batjer,
02:39:27.090 --> 02:39:30.260
I want to thank you for
your extremely hard work.
02:39:30.260 --> 02:39:31.757
This is a very important
02:39:31.757 --> 02:39:35.200
and a very challenging
demanding proceeding.
02:39:35.200 --> 02:39:39.237
So I I'm, I'm vaguely keen
partner with President Batjer
02:39:39.237 --> 02:39:42.360
and I saw up close
how difficult this is.
02:39:42.360 --> 02:39:43.193
And I want to thank you
02:39:43.193 --> 02:39:46.720
for coming forth with this
decision is really important
02:39:46.720 --> 02:39:49.043
but very, very challenging.
02:39:50.270 --> 02:39:53.150
I, I want to echo what
something you've said
02:39:53.150 --> 02:39:54.760
which is we we've seen
02:39:54.760 --> 02:39:58.300
and we saw this just
a couple of weeks ago
02:39:58.300 --> 02:40:02.962
at the PSPS hearings involving
Southern California Edison.
02:40:02.962 --> 02:40:07.370
We heard very powerfully
how customers are impacted
02:40:07.370 --> 02:40:12.370
by telecommunication
outages during PSPS events.
02:40:13.380 --> 02:40:14.670
So it is absolutely vital,
02:40:14.670 --> 02:40:17.897
as you said, and as
Commissioner Shiroma said,
02:40:17.897 --> 02:40:22.306
that we deal with wire line resiliency.
02:40:22.306 --> 02:40:24.140
One in every five
02:40:24.140 --> 02:40:29.140
nine 11 calls is still made
using a wire line device.
02:40:29.498 --> 02:40:33.940
As you indicated, wire line
customers are often concentrated
02:40:33.940 --> 02:40:36.540
in rural areas, hard to reach areas.
02:40:36.540 --> 02:40:38.695
They lack access to wireless services.
02:40:38.695 --> 02:40:42.794
They're all off the most
vulnerable communities
02:40:42.794 --> 02:40:44.950
during an emergency.
02:40:44.950 --> 02:40:49.000
So that underscores the
importance of what we're doing.
02:40:49.000 --> 02:40:52.500
I want to reiterate, just
quickly, comments I made last
02:40:52.500 --> 02:40:56.654
year when we adopted our
wireless resiliency decision,
02:40:56.654 --> 02:41:01.654
the PD does not require that we move
02:41:02.019 --> 02:41:06.057
in the direction of clean up
clean energy backup generation,
02:41:06.057 --> 02:41:09.720
but I think we should
keep the pressure on
02:41:09.720 --> 02:41:13.430
to take steps toward doing that.
02:41:13.430 --> 02:41:16.430
The clean industry, the
clean energy industry
02:41:16.430 --> 02:41:19.120
is very vibrant, it's growing fast.
02:41:19.120 --> 02:41:22.060
The telecommunications
industry is very vibrant
02:41:22.060 --> 02:41:24.080
at the forefront of innovation
02:41:24.080 --> 02:41:27.190
and I hope and expect
that these two industries
02:41:27.190 --> 02:41:30.260
will apply their
ingenuity to collaborate
02:41:30.260 --> 02:41:34.980
and develop strategies
to rapidly move us away
02:41:34.980 --> 02:41:37.208
from fossil fuel backup generation.
02:41:37.208 --> 02:41:40.913
With that I'll be voting in
support of this decision.
02:41:42.400 --> 02:41:43.900
Thank you, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
02:41:43.900 --> 02:41:47.609
Thank you very much for
underscoring that important point
02:41:47.609 --> 02:41:51.373
about the backup generation and
02:41:51.373 --> 02:41:54.490
that we really must move as rapidly
02:41:54.490 --> 02:41:59.490
as possible toward clean
up, clean energy backup.
02:42:00.080 --> 02:42:01.690
I've underscored that with each one
02:42:01.690 --> 02:42:04.850
of the telecommunications providers as
02:42:04.850 --> 02:42:06.560
as I have spoken to them.
02:42:06.560 --> 02:42:11.560
So we really do need to
move rapidly in this area.
02:42:12.300 --> 02:42:13.703
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:42:14.770 --> 02:42:16.160
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:42:16.160 --> 02:42:21.160
I just really want to
acknowledge this decision,
02:42:21.356 --> 02:42:24.293
as well as the wireless
wireless decision.
02:42:24.293 --> 02:42:26.800
We're not new ideas.
02:42:26.800 --> 02:42:31.790
It's been 15 years in the
making, of course, the, as of all
02:42:31.790 --> 02:42:35.330
of the climate change
and the cost catastrophes,
02:42:35.330 --> 02:42:39.980
particularly the wildfires,
have put immense amount
02:42:39.980 --> 02:42:44.400
of greater appreciation
of the need, but many
02:42:44.400 --> 02:42:49.400
of our previous natural
disasters and just other
02:42:51.020 --> 02:42:55.950
even just operational
incidents that occur have led
02:42:55.950 --> 02:42:58.580
to the need and recognition
that we need this sort
02:42:58.580 --> 02:43:02.120
of backup power in
place to guarantee service
02:43:02.120 --> 02:43:05.870
for our emergency
services and evacuation.
02:43:05.870 --> 02:43:09.389
So I think I was just asking staff,
02:43:09.389 --> 02:43:13.730
2006 was the legislature
told us to work on this,
02:43:13.730 --> 02:43:15.950
so this is a long time coming.
02:43:15.950 --> 02:43:17.840
I want to thank you
for finally getting it
02:43:17.840 --> 02:43:21.253
across the finish line and I
look forward to supporting it.
02:43:24.490 --> 02:43:27.870
Thank you, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves, and thank you
02:43:27.870 --> 02:43:31.740
to all of the Commissioners
for your comments and thoughts.
02:43:31.740 --> 02:43:35.193
With that, will the agenda
clerk please call the roll?
02:43:38.258 --> 02:43:39.841
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:43:39.841 --> 02:43:41.410
Aye.
02:43:41.410 --> 02:43:43.830
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:43:43.830 --> 02:43:45.390
Aye.
02:43:45.390 --> 02:43:47.553
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:43:47.553 --> 02:43:49.177
Yes.
02:43:49.177 --> 02:43:52.150
President Batjer?
02:43:52.150 --> 02:43:53.943
Sorry I was on mute.
02:43:53.943 --> 02:43:58.310
Yes, the vote is unanimous on item 43.
02:43:58.310 --> 02:44:00.993
Now moving on to item
44, Commissioner Shiroma?
02:44:04.610 --> 02:44:06.190
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
02:44:06.190 --> 02:44:10.163
Item 44 is an extension
order for rulemaking R19
02:44:11.420 --> 02:44:15.520
zero-two-zero-one-two
that implements the rules
02:44:15.520 --> 02:44:20.180
and requirements for Senate Bill 1376,
02:44:20.180 --> 02:44:23.232
the TNC Access For All Act.
02:44:23.232 --> 02:44:25.960
This act provides broader access
02:44:25.960 --> 02:44:30.960
to wheelchair access
vehicles and for those in need
02:44:30.970 --> 02:44:35.970
of access to transportation
network companies.
02:44:36.000 --> 02:44:37.170
I'm asking for your support
02:44:37.170 --> 02:44:40.350
for an extension of the
deadline for completion
02:44:40.350 --> 02:44:45.290
from February 21st, 2021,
to February 21st, 2022.
02:44:46.270 --> 02:44:51.270
Now, the reason for this is
we've issued two decisions
02:44:52.260 --> 02:44:54.620
on this proceeding providing
02:44:54.620 --> 02:44:59.150
for the wheelchair
accessibility, first to
02:45:00.216 --> 02:45:05.216
launch the program then
to provide for a, the cost
02:45:05.860 --> 02:45:10.860
of payment and then for
how do we implement that?
02:45:11.140 --> 02:45:16.140
We just issued a, a track
three decision on January 29th,
02:45:18.280 --> 02:45:22.740
and the Commission will
consider this the proposed decision
02:45:22.740 --> 02:45:25.430
at our March 4th voting meeting.
02:45:25.430 --> 02:45:27.849
Now thereafter, there is a track four
02:45:27.849 --> 02:45:31.790
where we anticipate updating
our SCOBY memo to wrap
02:45:31.790 --> 02:45:34.238
wrap up a few remaining issues.
02:45:34.238 --> 02:45:39.238
And we are keeping an eye to the statute
02:45:40.500 --> 02:45:43.380
requiring us to submit a report
02:45:43.380 --> 02:45:47.360
by January 1st, 2024 on the compliance
02:45:47.360 --> 02:45:50.622
with the statute
provisions, the effectiveness
02:45:50.622 --> 02:45:54.260
of the programs, the
partnerships that we're funded
02:45:54.260 --> 02:45:56.700
to provide for this program.
02:45:56.700 --> 02:46:01.270
So, and that involves hiring
an independent entity as well.
02:46:01.270 --> 02:46:04.770
So in order to accomplish
all of these things, in
02:46:04.770 --> 02:46:07.110
in particularly track four, I'm asking
02:46:07.110 --> 02:46:11.280
for an extension to February 21st, 2022.
02:46:11.280 --> 02:46:12.113
Thank you.
02:46:14.160 --> 02:46:15.910
Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:46:15.910 --> 02:46:17.615
Are there any questions of question
02:46:17.615 --> 02:46:20.423
of Commissioner Shiroma
for item 44, or comments?
02:46:21.270 --> 02:46:22.400
Okay, seeing none,
02:46:22.400 --> 02:46:25.195
will the agenda clerk
please call the roll?
02:46:25.195 --> 02:46:27.490
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:46:27.490 --> 02:46:28.850
Aye.
02:46:28.850 --> 02:46:30.645
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:46:30.645 --> 02:46:31.478
Aye.
02:46:32.940 --> 02:46:34.895
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:46:34.895 --> 02:46:36.412
Yes.
02:46:36.412 --> 02:46:38.352
President Batjer?
02:46:38.352 --> 02:46:43.352
Yes, the item 44 is passed
unanimous unanimously,
02:46:44.267 --> 02:46:47.660
and moving on to item 45.
02:46:47.660 --> 02:46:49.087
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:46:50.590 --> 02:46:51.423
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:46:51.423 --> 02:46:54.810
This is a extension of a complaint case
02:46:54.810 --> 02:46:58.373
by Carson Hybrid Energy
Storage (indistinct) SoCalGas.
02:46:59.530 --> 02:47:02.220
There was a PHC held last November
02:47:02.220 --> 02:47:07.220
and I'm hoping them are
scoping out issues in December.
02:47:07.840 --> 02:47:11.740
So they're moving forward
finally, on this complaint case.
02:47:11.740 --> 02:47:12.660
And I'm going to ask
02:47:12.660 --> 02:47:15.193
for an extension until
September of this year.
02:47:19.180 --> 02:47:21.170
Okay, thank you.
02:47:21.170 --> 02:47:23.967
Are there any questions of
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:47:26.478 --> 02:47:27.311
Okay, seeing none.
02:47:27.311 --> 02:47:29.943
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll on item 45?
02:47:31.550 --> 02:47:33.090
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:47:33.090 --> 02:47:34.432
Aye.
02:47:34.432 --> 02:47:37.101
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:47:37.101 --> 02:47:37.934
Aye.
02:47:38.780 --> 02:47:40.600
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:47:40.600 --> 02:47:41.433
Yes.
02:47:43.120 --> 02:47:44.870
President Batjer?
02:47:44.870 --> 02:47:48.790
Yes, item 45 is
passed unanimously.
02:47:48.790 --> 02:47:49.623
Thank you.
02:47:49.623 --> 02:47:53.313
And Commissioner Guzman
Aceves, item 46 is also yours.
02:47:54.320 --> 02:47:55.413
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:47:55.413 --> 02:47:59.120
This is a Southwest
Southwest Gas rate application
02:48:00.032 --> 02:48:03.417
to an and done August 3rd.
02:48:05.067 --> 02:48:06.520
The parties in the proceeding
ask the Commission
02:48:06.520 --> 02:48:08.221
to approve a settlement.
02:48:08.221 --> 02:48:10.480
The end of December, December 30th,
02:48:10.480 --> 02:48:11.890
the parties filed an amendment
02:48:11.890 --> 02:48:14.930
to the settlement,
nothing major, but they did,
02:48:14.930 --> 02:48:17.291
it has required
additional time for review
02:48:17.291 --> 02:48:20.137
and since the current
statutory deadline,
02:48:20.137 --> 02:48:23.310
and so later this month,
I'm asking for an extension
02:48:23.310 --> 02:48:26.293
until April 30th to close
out this proceeding.
02:48:29.310 --> 02:48:31.330
Thank you, are
there any comments?
02:48:31.330 --> 02:48:34.360
Oh, I'm sorry, were
you finished, Martha?
02:48:34.360 --> 02:48:35.420
Oh, okay.
02:48:35.420 --> 02:48:40.173
Are there any questions or
comments on item number 46?
02:48:42.360 --> 02:48:45.920
Seeing none, will be agenda
clerk please call the roll?
02:48:45.920 --> 02:48:47.880
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:48:47.880 --> 02:48:49.410
Aye.
02:48:49.410 --> 02:48:51.750
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:48:51.750 --> 02:48:52.583
Aye.
02:48:53.814 --> 02:48:55.570
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:48:55.570 --> 02:48:57.100
Yes.
02:48:57.100 --> 02:48:58.720
President Batjer?
02:48:58.720 --> 02:49:02.420
Yes, with that item 46
is passed unanimously.
02:49:02.420 --> 02:49:06.230
Moving on now to another
47, which is my item.
02:49:06.230 --> 02:49:08.666
This is an order extending
statutory deadline
02:49:08.666 --> 02:49:12.350
in the rulemaking, a 14
dash 10 dash zero-zero-three,
02:49:12.350 --> 02:49:14.760
regulatory framework for integrated
02:49:14.760 --> 02:49:17.260
distributed energy resources.
02:49:17.260 --> 02:49:19.010
This proceeding was open to develop
02:49:19.010 --> 02:49:22.471
a regulatory framework for
demand side resource programs.
02:49:22.471 --> 02:49:26.990
This framework is intended
to be a unified mechanism
02:49:26.990 --> 02:49:30.500
to achieve demand
reduction and load shaping
02:49:30.500 --> 02:49:34.220
using integrated demand
side management resources.
02:49:34.220 --> 02:49:37.260
This rulemaking has been
undertaken in two phases
02:49:37.260 --> 02:49:39.970
with the first phase,
focused on a review
02:49:39.970 --> 02:49:42.487
of the integrated demand
side management issues.
02:49:42.487 --> 02:49:45.140
And the second phase
focused on the development
02:49:45.140 --> 02:49:47.023
of required mechanisms.
02:49:47.023 --> 02:49:50.320
In this proceeding, we
just adopted a decision
02:49:50.320 --> 02:49:52.560
in item 12 of today's Consent Agenda
02:49:52.560 --> 02:49:55.810
that includes the
implementation of two pilots
02:49:55.810 --> 02:50:00.170
framework works for curing
distributed energy resources
02:50:00.170 --> 02:50:05.170
that avoid or defer
utility capital investments.
02:50:05.440 --> 02:50:08.620
An extension of the proceeding
deadline will accommodate
02:50:08.620 --> 02:50:12.430
the implementation of these
pilots and related workshops.
02:50:12.430 --> 02:50:14.790
This decision extends
a statutory deadline
02:50:14.790 --> 02:50:18.140
in this proceeding to
August 15th of 2021,
02:50:18.140 --> 02:50:19.500
to address these matters.
02:50:19.500 --> 02:50:22.321
And with that, I request your support.
02:50:22.321 --> 02:50:25.223
Are there any questions or comments?
02:50:27.080 --> 02:50:28.340
Okay, seeing none.
02:50:28.340 --> 02:50:30.923
I ask the agenda clerk,
please call the roll?
02:50:32.647 --> 02:50:34.016
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:50:34.016 --> 02:50:35.495
Aye.
02:50:35.495 --> 02:50:37.730
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:50:37.730 --> 02:50:38.563
Aye.
02:50:39.765 --> 02:50:41.920
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:50:41.920 --> 02:50:42.753
Yes.
02:50:43.817 --> 02:50:45.266
President Batjer?
02:50:45.266 --> 02:50:49.110
Yes, with that, the
vote is unanimous.
02:50:49.110 --> 02:50:50.350
Thank you all very much.
02:50:50.350 --> 02:50:53.560
That completes our regular agenda.
02:50:53.560 --> 02:50:58.430
We will now take a lunch
break for 45 minutes.
02:50:58.430 --> 02:51:01.390
Let's say 1:45, so maybe 40 minutes.
02:51:01.390 --> 02:51:04.620
1:45 we'll be back in our saddles.
02:51:04.620 --> 02:51:06.623
Okay, thank you all.
02:51:09.271 --> 02:51:12.354
(instrumental music)
02:51:17.370 --> 02:51:20.040
Good afternoon, we are back in session.
02:51:20.040 --> 02:51:22.180
Would the agenda
clerk please call the roll,
02:51:22.180 --> 02:51:24.423
so we can establish quorum?
02:51:25.283 --> 02:51:28.044
Commissioner Shiroma?
02:51:28.044 --> 02:51:28.877
Present.
02:51:29.830 --> 02:51:32.180
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:51:32.180 --> 02:51:33.013
Here.
02:51:34.030 --> 02:51:36.040
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
02:51:36.040 --> 02:51:36.883
I'm present.
02:51:38.230 --> 02:51:39.580
President Batjer?
02:51:40.520 --> 02:51:43.474
Here, so we have
established quorum.
02:51:43.474 --> 02:51:47.496
We will move on in the agenda
to the management reports.
02:51:47.496 --> 02:51:51.500
There is no report for
item 48, which is the report
02:51:51.500 --> 02:51:54.760
which is discussion on
recent consumer protections
02:51:54.760 --> 02:51:57.480
and safety activities management report.
02:51:57.480 --> 02:52:01.010
So we'll, we'll move to
item 49, which is manager
02:52:01.010 --> 02:52:03.510
at port on administrative activities
02:52:03.510 --> 02:52:06.602
and Executive Director
Rachel Peterson, who is here,
02:52:06.602 --> 02:52:11.010
will present the fourth quarter
employee recognition award.
02:52:11.010 --> 02:52:12.383
Take it away, Rachel.
02:52:15.370 --> 02:52:17.510
All right, terrific,
thank you so much,
02:52:17.510 --> 02:52:20.470
President Batjer and Commissioners.
02:52:20.470 --> 02:52:21.495
Good afternoon.
02:52:21.495 --> 02:52:25.160
Rachel here again and
I'm just gonna dive right in
02:52:25.160 --> 02:52:29.360
with the first award for collaboration.
02:52:29.360 --> 02:52:31.483
We can go to that first slide please.
02:52:34.430 --> 02:52:37.280
This one is actually a tie.
02:52:37.280 --> 02:52:39.670
This goes to two
different teams.
02:52:39.670 --> 02:52:44.380
The first one is the Transportation
Enforcement Branch Team.
02:52:44.380 --> 02:52:48.009
Joe Ilias, Eric Hooks, Steve Esguerra,
02:52:48.009 --> 02:52:51.980
Migdalia Martin, Haydee
Clarke, John Dang.
02:52:51.980 --> 02:52:53.530
This is a team that went above
02:52:53.530 --> 02:52:58.220
and beyond to ensure that
the CPUC's highest priority
02:52:58.220 --> 02:53:02.260
IT project, the Transportation
Carrier Portal Project
02:53:02.260 --> 02:53:05.140
which will convert our carrier licensing
02:53:05.140 --> 02:53:10.090
from paper to computer
systems, stayed on schedule.
02:53:10.090 --> 02:53:13.280
The team had to turn
their deliverables into IT
02:53:13.280 --> 02:53:17.700
in a compressed timeframe,
right before the 2020 holidays.
02:53:17.700 --> 02:53:20.150
They shared their
knowledge and provided input
02:53:20.150 --> 02:53:24.600
and endorsement to our IT
department on a tight timeframe.
02:53:24.600 --> 02:53:27.070
Each team member
was willing to make time
02:53:27.070 --> 02:53:28.350
and accommodate each other
02:53:28.350 --> 02:53:31.287
in order to deliver on the assignment.
02:53:31.287 --> 02:53:34.487
The second team
award for collaboration is
02:53:34.487 --> 02:53:37.530
to the IT's Network Infrastructure
02:53:37.530 --> 02:53:42.030
and Database Team, Ty Tong, Jovi Deboja,
02:53:42.030 --> 02:53:44.950
Christine Nutile, Kale Williams,
02:53:44.950 --> 02:53:47.720
Jason Shee, Jason Williams,
02:53:47.720 --> 02:53:51.160
Ebrahim Mayandeh, Ryan Cayabyab,
02:53:51.160 --> 02:53:56.160
Jennie Lee, Fawn Liu, Nancy
Fong, and Rafael Placencia.
02:53:56.430 --> 02:53:58.430
This team worked together to move one
02:53:58.430 --> 02:53:59.990
of the most critical pieces
02:53:59.990 --> 02:54:03.080
of the CPUC's core infrastructure
02:54:03.080 --> 02:54:05.310
from the San Francisco server room
02:54:05.310 --> 02:54:08.680
to our new location in Rancho Cordova.
02:54:08.680 --> 02:54:10.890
This is a story of moving infrastructure
02:54:10.890 --> 02:54:15.230
so that we can meet the
modern needs of our workforce
02:54:15.230 --> 02:54:17.510
working across California.
02:54:17.510 --> 02:54:20.490
The server room in our
San Francisco office suffered
02:54:20.490 --> 02:54:23.790
from insufficient ventilation
and air conditioning,
02:54:23.790 --> 02:54:26.310
and as we all know,
when that room overheats
02:54:26.310 --> 02:54:28.400
we experienced breakdowns of some
02:54:28.400 --> 02:54:30.840
of our most critical functions.
02:54:30.840 --> 02:54:34.100
This team worked in
Q4 of last year to prepare
02:54:34.100 --> 02:54:36.720
and plan the migration of our servers
02:54:36.720 --> 02:54:39.270
to a secured temperature
controlled facility
02:54:39.270 --> 02:54:43.050
that's managed by the California
Department of Technology.
02:54:43.050 --> 02:54:44.900
The team's planning and preparation
02:54:44.900 --> 02:54:48.040
in 2020, meant that hopefully all
02:54:48.040 --> 02:54:50.790
of you were unaware that
they migrated the servers
02:54:50.790 --> 02:54:52.860
and services seamlessly over
02:54:52.860 --> 02:54:55.753
the Martin Luther King
Jr. holiday weekend.
02:54:57.150 --> 02:54:58.593
Next slide, please.
02:55:01.860 --> 02:55:06.090
We have several awards
for customer service,
02:55:06.090 --> 02:55:08.550
Otis Byrd, the third is in
02:55:08.550 --> 02:55:11.160
our transportation licensing branch.
02:55:11.160 --> 02:55:14.140
During the pandemic, we
do still need people to come
02:55:14.140 --> 02:55:17.730
into our offices to pick
up and distribute mail
02:55:17.730 --> 02:55:21.190
particularly from our
passenger transportation carriers.
02:55:21.190 --> 02:55:24.063
The ones that will hopefully benefit
02:55:24.063 --> 02:55:25.320
from our new portal projects.
02:55:25.320 --> 02:55:27.780
These are businesses
that are trying to stay afloat
02:55:27.780 --> 02:55:31.900
in today's economy and our
job is to handle their paperwork
02:55:31.900 --> 02:55:35.020
so that they continue
to stay in business.
02:55:35.020 --> 02:55:38.630
Otis has been coming into
the office three times a week
02:55:38.630 --> 02:55:42.680
to handle all incoming and
outgoing mail for the branch.
02:55:42.680 --> 02:55:44.590
He is docketing applications,
02:55:44.590 --> 02:55:48.380
he's processing requests
from transportation carriers,
02:55:48.380 --> 02:55:51.020
coordinating with the
California Highway Patrol
02:55:51.020 --> 02:55:53.900
on vehicle inspection requests.
02:55:53.900 --> 02:55:58.060
His customer service skills
to the carriers are exemplary
02:55:58.060 --> 02:56:00.760
and Otis also
communicates very effectively
02:56:00.760 --> 02:56:03.070
with all of his coworkers.
02:56:03.070 --> 02:56:05.315
Very well done, Otis.
02:56:05.315 --> 02:56:09.220
Gillian Weaver in the Energy Division.
02:56:09.220 --> 02:56:12.490
She started at the
Commission just a year ago,
02:56:12.490 --> 02:56:15.770
but has quickly found a way
to meet the diverse needs
02:56:15.770 --> 02:56:19.170
of the low-income oversight
board members, as well
02:56:19.170 --> 02:56:22.210
as Commissioner Shiroma
who serves on the board
02:56:22.210 --> 02:56:24.993
and her own energy division management.
02:56:24.993 --> 02:56:28.880
Gillian arranges the considerable
02:56:28.880 --> 02:56:32.550
logistical details around
the quarterly board meetings.
02:56:32.550 --> 02:56:36.800
She develops the agendas,
scopes out board presentations,
02:56:36.800 --> 02:56:39.303
and helps Commissioner
Shiroma strategize
02:56:39.303 --> 02:56:43.090
on the best way for the board
to advise the Commission.
02:56:43.090 --> 02:56:46.950
As you just heard earlier
today, the board is going to hear
02:56:46.950 --> 02:56:51.150
about a number of the consumer
protection transition plans
02:56:51.150 --> 02:56:53.610
in March, and Gillian is a core part
02:56:53.610 --> 02:56:54.963
of putting that together.
02:56:55.887 --> 02:57:00.150
Socorro Garcia is in the
Public Advisor's Office.
02:57:00.150 --> 02:57:02.420
She answers the main public line
02:57:02.420 --> 02:57:05.550
for the CPUC Los Angeles office.
02:57:05.550 --> 02:57:07.710
She has to wear many hats and think
02:57:07.710 --> 02:57:11.510
on her feet in that role because
once she answers the line
02:57:11.510 --> 02:57:13.800
she never knows what to expect.
02:57:13.800 --> 02:57:17.070
At all times, Socorro remains courteous,
02:57:17.070 --> 02:57:20.870
listens attentively, and
quickly responds to callers.
02:57:20.870 --> 02:57:22.300
She is on the frontline
02:57:22.300 --> 02:57:24.340
for the public in Southern California
02:57:24.340 --> 02:57:28.010
on behalf of the CPUC
and is receiving this award
02:57:28.010 --> 02:57:31.343
as recognition for her
excellent customer service.
02:57:33.180 --> 02:57:36.010
Kasha Thompson in HR.
02:57:36.010 --> 02:57:39.700
Tasha facilities all of our
workers' compensation,
02:57:39.700 --> 02:57:41.910
employee assistance programs,
02:57:41.910 --> 02:57:46.610
and disability leaves
for our 1,300 employees.
02:57:46.610 --> 02:57:49.050
That's one person facilitating all that
02:57:49.050 --> 02:57:51.286
for over 1,000 people.
02:57:51.286 --> 02:57:55.300
Kasha ensures that our staff
know about forms of leads
02:57:55.300 --> 02:57:58.100
they might be eligible
for, the end that they
02:57:58.100 --> 02:58:01.290
receive their benefits in a timely way.
02:58:01.290 --> 02:58:04.190
Supporting employees like this
has been extremely important
02:58:04.190 --> 02:58:06.480
during the pandemic
because we are no different
02:58:06.480 --> 02:58:08.220
from everybody else.
02:58:08.220 --> 02:58:11.470
Our workforce has experienced
the significant pressures
02:58:11.470 --> 02:58:14.890
and stresses brought on by COVID-19.
02:58:14.890 --> 02:58:16.800
Kasha interacts with employees,
02:58:16.800 --> 02:58:19.160
showing empathy and providing advice
02:58:19.160 --> 02:58:22.720
about available options,
and provides consultation
02:58:22.720 --> 02:58:26.780
to managers to help them
understand the leave benefits too.
02:58:26.780 --> 02:58:30.203
She does all of this with
kindness and a smile.
02:58:32.220 --> 02:58:34.560
Next award for quality improvement,
02:58:34.560 --> 02:58:36.150
we have the Energy Division
02:58:36.150 --> 02:58:39.160
Budget Administration and Tariff Team,
02:58:39.160 --> 02:58:43.030
Sheela Dawadi, Heyward
Daluz, Johnny Tran,
02:58:43.030 --> 02:58:47.135
Muhammad Ahmad, Yugg
Patel, and Rona Banaga.
02:58:47.135 --> 02:58:50.620
This group put a paperless
advice letter system
02:58:50.620 --> 02:58:53.940
into action, improving
age old procedures
02:58:53.940 --> 02:58:55.270
as we transitioned away
02:58:55.270 --> 02:58:58.760
from paper filing and
toward a digital platform.
02:58:58.760 --> 02:59:02.100
The transition has led
to a vast improvement
02:59:02.100 --> 02:59:05.160
across the board for
all of the energy division.
02:59:05.160 --> 02:59:06.540
And I'm going to tell you this number.
02:59:06.540 --> 02:59:08.520
I scarcely believed that myself,
02:59:08.520 --> 02:59:13.520
but Energy Division
process, 1,426 advice letters
02:59:14.450 --> 02:59:16.393
in the year 2020.
02:59:18.428 --> 02:59:20.680
1,426.
02:59:20.680 --> 02:59:25.500
Each one of those was
performed in 75% less time
02:59:25.500 --> 02:59:28.050
than when the filings were on paper.
02:59:28.050 --> 02:59:31.200
The improvement was
clearly immediately essential
02:59:31.200 --> 02:59:34.770
during COVID-19 and
will continue to be essential
02:59:34.770 --> 02:59:36.203
beyond the pandemic.
02:59:38.230 --> 02:59:39.980
Awards for building morale.
02:59:39.980 --> 02:59:42.003
Can I have the next slide, please?
02:59:44.020 --> 02:59:47.240
Cathy Fogel from the ALJ Division.
02:59:47.240 --> 02:59:50.080
Judge Fogel helped
launch an online version
02:59:50.080 --> 02:59:53.820
of the ALJ's peer support
group for new judges
02:59:53.820 --> 02:59:57.190
right when COVID-19 began to impact us.
02:59:57.190 --> 02:59:59.030
She dedicated time to ensure
02:59:59.030 --> 03:00:01.683
that the new cohort of
judges felt welcomed.
03:00:02.527 --> 03:00:07.527
She wrote and performed
a personalized ukulele song
03:00:08.090 --> 03:00:12.260
to commemorate graduation
from the ALJ training bootcamp.
03:00:12.260 --> 03:00:14.380
Her welcoming spirit lifted the mood
03:00:14.380 --> 03:00:18.380
across several months
of lengthy online trainings
03:00:18.380 --> 03:00:20.650
and they had all of the new ALJ models
03:00:20.650 --> 03:00:22.683
feel part of a strong team.
03:00:24.560 --> 03:00:27.570
Antoinette Siguenza in HR.
03:00:27.570 --> 03:00:32.260
Antoinette is our New Employee
Orientation Lead Trainer.
03:00:32.260 --> 03:00:36.200
She greets attendees with a
big smile and a warm welcome.
03:00:36.200 --> 03:00:40.150
Her enthusiasm is what
really shines in these sessions.
03:00:40.150 --> 03:00:41.890
I can personally attest to this
03:00:41.890 --> 03:00:43.570
because I have presented at a number
03:00:43.570 --> 03:00:47.670
of these sessions and
Antoinette is unfailingly warm
03:00:47.670 --> 03:00:50.280
and patient with me as a presenter
03:00:50.280 --> 03:00:52.083
and with everybody who's attending.
03:00:52.990 --> 03:00:56.400
She is basically a
cheerleader for all aspects
03:00:56.400 --> 03:00:59.720
of the CPUC and gets
new employees excited
03:00:59.720 --> 03:01:01.590
to learn about the Commission.
03:01:01.590 --> 03:01:03.820
She's a true asset to the organization
03:01:03.820 --> 03:01:07.023
and a great person to have
welcoming our new employees.
03:01:10.020 --> 03:01:11.600
Core values.
03:01:11.600 --> 03:01:14.990
Ja'Nay Jackson from the ALJ Division
03:01:14.990 --> 03:01:18.580
Ja'Nay demonstrates the
core values every single day.
03:01:18.580 --> 03:01:21.680
She is our sole agenda
clerk and creates, edits,
03:01:21.680 --> 03:01:24.890
and publishes every
Commission meeting agenda.
03:01:24.890 --> 03:01:27.540
She attends every
Commission meeting, both home
03:01:27.540 --> 03:01:31.210
and away when we are not
under stay-at-home orders,
03:01:31.210 --> 03:01:33.880
and she helps publish final decisions.
03:01:33.880 --> 03:01:36.970
You hear her voice several
times during each voting meeting
03:01:36.970 --> 03:01:38.220
as she calls the role.
03:01:38.220 --> 03:01:42.620
Ja'Nay and I worked on reducing
paper use between her job
03:01:42.620 --> 03:01:45.400
and mine long before
that became a necessity
03:01:45.400 --> 03:01:47.620
during the COVID-19 pandemic.
03:01:47.620 --> 03:01:51.160
And I can attest to the
fact that she tirelessly
03:01:51.160 --> 03:01:54.440
strived to demonstrate
integrity, accountability,
03:01:54.440 --> 03:01:56.430
and excellence, which are some
03:01:56.430 --> 03:01:58.963
of our core values at the CPUC.
03:02:00.420 --> 03:02:02.780
Wendy Bacher from HR.
03:02:02.780 --> 03:02:06.860
Wendy has also been with
the CPUC for less than one year.
03:02:06.860 --> 03:02:09.700
She is knowledgeable,
hard-working, wise,
03:02:09.700 --> 03:02:11.480
and works well with both
03:02:11.480 --> 03:02:15.500
with colleagues and the
supervisors whom she advises.
03:02:15.500 --> 03:02:18.370
She has ideas for
HR that are innovative,
03:02:18.370 --> 03:02:22.150
they improve quality, and
emphasize customer service.
03:02:22.150 --> 03:02:25.100
Wendy demonstrates
the CPUC's core values
03:02:25.100 --> 03:02:29.270
in her work by being accountable,
owning her assignments,
03:02:29.270 --> 03:02:31.880
and delivering excellent work product.
03:02:31.880 --> 03:02:34.210
Her work ethic and efficiency results
03:02:34.210 --> 03:02:37.950
in good stewardship of
resources while serving the CPUC
03:02:37.950 --> 03:02:39.203
with distinction.
03:02:41.370 --> 03:02:43.330
Recognizing innovation.
03:02:43.330 --> 03:02:46.100
David Miller in Energy Division.
03:02:46.100 --> 03:02:50.060
David create a program,
created a program in Python
03:02:50.060 --> 03:02:53.280
to quickly analyze and
organize large filings
03:02:53.280 --> 03:02:57.230
from 40 entities that file
their integrated resource plans
03:02:57.230 --> 03:02:59.230
with the CPUC.
03:02:59.230 --> 03:03:01.910
The plans include, as I know very well,
03:03:01.910 --> 03:03:03.650
and as you spoke about earlier today,
03:03:03.650 --> 03:03:06.910
they include large
amounts of data and detail
03:03:06.910 --> 03:03:10.749
about the resources that
each entity plans to procure,
03:03:10.749 --> 03:03:13.290
the greenhouse gas emissions that they
03:03:13.290 --> 03:03:16.720
say will be reduced and
many other elements.
03:03:16.720 --> 03:03:19.630
This is that core technical complex work
03:03:19.630 --> 03:03:21.894
behind the scenes that helps us
03:03:21.894 --> 03:03:25.750
and you, as decision-makers,
analyze how California
03:03:25.750 --> 03:03:29.050
will achieve our ambitious
greenhouse gas reduction goals
03:03:29.050 --> 03:03:31.200
for the energy sector.
03:03:31.200 --> 03:03:34.430
David's program
organizes the filings, flags
03:03:34.430 --> 03:03:37.410
and removes errors,
and accurately prepares
03:03:37.410 --> 03:03:40.460
automatic automated summary reports
03:03:40.460 --> 03:03:44.250
and analysis for the IRP team to use.
03:03:44.250 --> 03:03:46.640
This work would take
many weeks if we had
03:03:46.640 --> 03:03:47.910
to perform it manually
03:03:47.910 --> 03:03:52.140
and is significantly more
accurate than manual validation
03:03:52.140 --> 03:03:53.923
and error checking would be.
03:03:55.920 --> 03:03:59.480
Next, our recognition for leadership.
03:03:59.480 --> 03:04:02.560
Daniel Washburn, Internal Audits.
03:04:02.560 --> 03:04:05.160
Dan has done exceptional work taking
03:04:05.160 --> 03:04:07.880
over leadership of the
Internal Audits Team
03:04:07.880 --> 03:04:09.980
during a moment of transition.
03:04:09.980 --> 03:04:11.970
Dan took the reign, worked well
03:04:11.970 --> 03:04:15.370
with the team, and assumed
various responsibilities
03:04:15.370 --> 03:04:18.640
while also taking care
of his regular duties.
03:04:18.640 --> 03:04:21.290
Because of Dan's guidance and expertise,
03:04:21.290 --> 03:04:25.350
his peers have remained
grounded during their transition.
03:04:25.350 --> 03:04:26.820
As you know, Commissioners,
03:04:26.820 --> 03:04:31.010
Dan now has taken a
promotion at Covered California
03:04:31.010 --> 03:04:32.790
and I really wished him all the best
03:04:32.790 --> 03:04:34.720
at that various dental agency
03:04:34.720 --> 03:04:37.163
as he continues in state service.
03:04:38.940 --> 03:04:42.180
And last recognition is to Jose Pereyra
03:04:43.350 --> 03:04:45.718
in our Rail Safety Division.
03:04:45.718 --> 03:04:50.560
For the last 20 years, Jose
has reviewed and approved all
03:04:50.560 --> 03:04:53.680
of Los Angeles County
Transportation Authority's
03:04:53.680 --> 03:04:57.866
light rail transit at grade
crossing applications.
03:04:57.866 --> 03:05:02.083
LA Metro is undergoing
a significant expansion.
03:05:02.083 --> 03:05:03.770
Long Beach, Claremont, LAX,
03:05:03.770 --> 03:05:05.990
the San Fernando Valley are
03:05:05.990 --> 03:05:08.890
all receiving extensions of the system.
03:05:08.890 --> 03:05:11.450
Jose has reviewed engine engineering
03:05:11.450 --> 03:05:15.541
documents for all of the at
grade crossings of the system.
03:05:15.541 --> 03:05:20.541
He is the core communicator
between LA Metro and the CPUC.
03:05:21.030 --> 03:05:24.020
He has also trained all new hired staff
03:05:24.020 --> 03:05:26.820
in the Rail Crossings
and Engineering Branch,
03:05:26.820 --> 03:05:28.750
which is an essential transfer
03:05:28.750 --> 03:05:33.340
of institutional knowledge to
new generations of engineers.
03:05:33.340 --> 03:05:36.680
His contribution is
immense for public safety
03:05:36.680 --> 03:05:40.660
and the CPUC's role in
ensuring that public safety
03:05:40.660 --> 03:05:44.563
for the writers of LA
Metro now and in the future.
03:05:45.570 --> 03:05:47.070
Thank you very much, Commissioners.
03:05:47.070 --> 03:05:50.810
I really am delighted to
present those recognitions
03:05:50.810 --> 03:05:51.860
once a quarter.
03:05:51.860 --> 03:05:52.693
Thank you.
03:06:05.290 --> 03:06:07.833
Standing ovation for
all of our employees.
03:06:09.946 --> 03:06:11.770
Don't look at my
shorts (giggles).
03:06:11.770 --> 03:06:13.053
Yay.
03:06:14.570 --> 03:06:16.908
Standing ovation, yay.
03:06:16.908 --> 03:06:18.510
(applause)
03:06:18.510 --> 03:06:21.193
Inspiring, inspiring.
03:06:22.790 --> 03:06:25.240
Thank you so much, Rachel.
03:06:25.240 --> 03:06:27.180
Really the stories are inspiring,
03:06:27.180 --> 03:06:30.440
our employees just make you so proud
03:06:30.440 --> 03:06:34.130
and they work so hard
under normal circumstances,
03:06:34.130 --> 03:06:39.130
but under COVID-19 it
really is quite extraordinary.
03:06:39.230 --> 03:06:43.193
So, and thank you for
such a nice presentation.
03:06:46.013 --> 03:06:47.180
So, thank you.
03:06:53.000 --> 03:06:55.350
President Batjer, you
got muted for a second.
03:06:56.324 --> 03:06:59.340
Did Dan know that
he was being honored
03:07:00.680 --> 03:07:04.793
and that even though he's
over at Covered California now?
03:07:06.600 --> 03:07:07.433
I hope so.
03:07:07.433 --> 03:07:09.760
I'm checking in with
the team to find out.
03:07:09.760 --> 03:07:13.500
The team nominated him,
which is kind of another indication
03:07:13.500 --> 03:07:16.090
of how much they
appreciated his leadership.
03:07:16.090 --> 03:07:17.313
I'm asking them.
03:07:18.430 --> 03:07:19.400
That's wonderful.
03:07:19.400 --> 03:07:21.850
Well, oh, everyone's wonderful.
03:07:21.850 --> 03:07:24.000
So thank you so much.
03:07:24.000 --> 03:07:25.080
Great job.
03:07:25.080 --> 03:07:30.080
Okay, we will now move on
to the Commissioner's report
03:07:31.150 --> 03:07:33.693
and who would like to go first?
03:07:37.890 --> 03:07:40.650
All right, Shiroma, it's you.
03:07:40.650 --> 03:07:43.500
Okay, thank you,
President Batjer.
03:07:43.500 --> 03:07:45.040
Okay, just a handful of things.
03:07:45.040 --> 03:07:49.040
I'd like you to announce that
the CPUC will hold an all day
03:07:49.040 --> 03:07:52.820
on bond hearing on
Wednesday, February 24th.
03:07:53.960 --> 03:07:58.120
We'll be hearing about
rising electric costs
03:07:58.120 --> 03:08:00.490
and rate trends over the next decade
03:08:00.490 --> 03:08:04.790
and how those trends
may impact our ability
03:08:04.790 --> 03:08:06.690
to meet our climate goals
03:08:06.690 --> 03:08:09.150
while maintaining affordable service.
03:08:09.150 --> 03:08:10.640
We will be joined on the dance
03:08:10.640 --> 03:08:13.230
by the California Energy Commission,
03:08:13.230 --> 03:08:15.807
the California Independent
System Operator,
03:08:15.807 --> 03:08:19.679
and the chairs of our
Legislative Oversight Committee.
03:08:19.679 --> 03:08:23.820
(indistinct) Russell and
Emily Van Der Holden.
03:08:23.820 --> 03:08:25.370
To help guide this discussion,
03:08:25.370 --> 03:08:29.170
the Energy Division is planning
to issue a white paper prior
03:08:29.170 --> 03:08:32.660
to the on bonk, that
presents detailed analyses
03:08:32.660 --> 03:08:37.300
of historical and forecasted
costs and rates trends.
03:08:37.300 --> 03:08:39.260
And En Banc, a series
03:08:39.260 --> 03:08:43.970
of three expert panels made
of both researchers, utilities,
03:08:43.970 --> 03:08:45.630
and the environmental justice community,
03:08:45.630 --> 03:08:49.370
and consumer advocates
will help us explore
03:08:49.370 --> 03:08:51.930
the issues raised by the paper.
03:08:51.930 --> 03:08:55.540
So members of the
public are invited to join
03:08:55.540 --> 03:08:59.720
in this critical dialogue
details on the En Banc
03:08:59.720 --> 03:09:02.560
can be found at our
website on the data calendar
03:09:02.560 --> 03:09:04.564
and the white paper will be posted
03:09:04.564 --> 03:09:08.533
once we once the inner
division issues get it.
03:09:09.914 --> 03:09:12.920
And I also wanted to share
that I had previously announced
03:09:12.920 --> 03:09:16.550
that Cheryl Wynn and Christine
03:09:16.550 --> 03:09:21.550
Christina Leitan were
temporary advisors in my office,
03:09:21.700 --> 03:09:23.490
and I'm pleased to announce
03:09:23.490 --> 03:09:28.490
that they are now official
two-year rotational advisors.
03:09:29.570 --> 03:09:33.280
Cheryl has been on a,
on that short term loan
03:09:33.280 --> 03:09:35.960
from the Energy Division
since December working
03:09:35.960 --> 03:09:38.420
on energy and water matters.
03:09:38.420 --> 03:09:41.510
In the Energy Division,
Cheryl led the energy efficiency
03:09:41.510 --> 03:09:43.110
third party program.
03:09:43.110 --> 03:09:47.410
So it's vocation process as
a senior regulatory analyst
03:09:47.410 --> 03:09:51.350
and prior to joining the
CPUC in 2018, Cheryl
03:09:51.350 --> 03:09:56.010
managed utility energy
efficiency was district portfolio,
03:09:56.010 --> 03:09:59.650
which involved coordinating
across market sectors,
03:09:59.650 --> 03:10:01.680
demand response, distributed generation,
03:10:01.680 --> 03:10:06.680
and low-income programs all
towards implementing strategies
03:10:06.949 --> 03:10:11.949
and marketing campaigns to
lower greenhouse gas footprint.
03:10:13.630 --> 03:10:15.570
Our Cheryl holds Bachelor of Arts Degree
03:10:15.570 --> 03:10:18.270
in Business Administration
from the University
03:10:18.270 --> 03:10:21.150
of Laverne and a
master's Master's Degree
03:10:21.150 --> 03:10:24.070
in Business Administration
from Pepperdine University.
03:10:24.070 --> 03:10:26.170
So welcome Cheryl.
03:10:26.170 --> 03:10:31.170
Christina has been with
my group since November.
03:10:31.610 --> 03:10:32.920
We're not only working on energy,
03:10:32.920 --> 03:10:34.700
but also telecommunication matters.
03:10:34.700 --> 03:10:38.300
And she joined the
CPUC's Energy Division
03:10:38.300 --> 03:10:41.090
also in 2018 where she's been working
03:10:41.090 --> 03:10:44.769
as a senior analyst on
natural gas policy and reliability.
03:10:44.769 --> 03:10:47.140
She led the Aliso Canyon
03:10:47.140 --> 03:10:49.630
and long-term gas planning proceedings.
03:10:49.630 --> 03:10:51.150
In addition to other projects
03:10:51.150 --> 03:10:55.080
analyzing electric and gas
system markets in the liability.
03:10:55.080 --> 03:10:58.520
And prior to joining the
CPUC, Christina also worked
03:10:58.520 --> 03:11:01.570
in the electric utility
industry in a variety
03:11:01.570 --> 03:11:05.890
of roles, including on
renewable energy procurement
03:11:05.890 --> 03:11:09.210
and distribution and
transmission infrastructure.
03:11:09.210 --> 03:11:11.170
And Christina holds a Master's Degree
03:11:11.170 --> 03:11:13.199
in Economics from Cal Poly, Pomona,
03:11:13.199 --> 03:11:16.290
and the Bachelor's
Degree in Political Science
03:11:16.290 --> 03:11:19.590
from University of
California at Santa Barbara.
03:11:19.590 --> 03:11:22.340
And then I also have a
new advisor joining, again,
03:11:22.340 --> 03:11:26.530
as a as a two-year rotational
advisor, Pwewah Lee.
03:11:27.780 --> 03:11:30.790
Pwewah Lee is coming to us from
03:11:30.790 --> 03:11:33.005
the Public Advocate's Office.
03:11:33.005 --> 03:11:34.830
And she has been serving
03:11:34.830 --> 03:11:38.368
as a Senior Regulatory
Analyst in the advocate's office.
03:11:38.368 --> 03:11:41.230
She's worked on energy safety policy
03:11:41.230 --> 03:11:43.010
in regards to utilities
03:11:43.010 --> 03:11:47.460
to energization and
risk modeling practices.
03:11:47.460 --> 03:11:52.460
Pwewah also previously
served as a Utilities Engineer
03:11:52.490 --> 03:11:55.210
in the CPUC's Water Division.
03:11:55.210 --> 03:11:57.830
Before joining the CPUC, Pwewah worked
03:11:57.830 --> 03:12:00.950
in the private sector
at an energy company
03:12:00.950 --> 03:12:04.521
as a research engineer,
applying data analytics,
03:12:04.521 --> 03:12:07.608
(indistinct) for energy production.
03:12:07.608 --> 03:12:10.940
Pwewah holds a Bachelor's
and Master's Degrees
03:12:10.940 --> 03:12:13.530
in Civil and Environmental Engineering,
03:12:13.530 --> 03:12:16.210
respectively, from the
University of California,
03:12:16.210 --> 03:12:19.980
Berkeley and the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology.
03:12:19.980 --> 03:12:23.650
So we welcome Pwewah and
she'll be joining us next week.
03:12:23.650 --> 03:12:28.360
And then finally, I want
to thank Mary Claire Brown
03:12:28.360 --> 03:12:30.803
for her two years of
service in my office.
03:12:31.650 --> 03:12:36.343
Mary Claire, commonly nickname MC.
03:12:37.240 --> 03:12:42.240
MC will be joining a new
Commissioner Darcy Hoag's office
03:12:45.080 --> 03:12:47.404
as an Interim Advisor.
03:12:47.404 --> 03:12:51.963
MC joined my team back in early 2019,
03:12:53.130 --> 03:12:55.490
serving first as an Interim Advisor
03:12:55.490 --> 03:12:58.490
and then joining long term.
03:12:58.490 --> 03:13:01.322
Although the two years
ago, it goes by very quickly.
03:13:01.322 --> 03:13:06.322
And she has been my Lead
Advisor on the Multi Utility
03:13:07.350 --> 03:13:11.200
California Alternative
Rates for Energy Care and
03:13:11.200 --> 03:13:13.770
ISA Savings Assistance, ISA,
03:13:13.770 --> 03:13:15.560
proceeding the rate design proceeding is
03:13:15.560 --> 03:13:18.877
for San Diego Gas and
Electric, Civic Gas and Electric,
03:13:18.877 --> 03:13:20.900
and Southern California Edison,
03:13:20.900 --> 03:13:23.875
and our liaison to the
low-income oversight board.
03:13:23.875 --> 03:13:27.210
And MC has a Master
of Public Policy Degree
03:13:27.210 --> 03:13:31.434
from UC Berkeley, Bachelor
of Arts in Mathematics
03:13:31.434 --> 03:13:33.540
from Middlebury College.
03:13:33.540 --> 03:13:36.620
She has advised me on
many other energy matters,
03:13:36.620 --> 03:13:40.650
including the energization,
biomethane, wildfire mitigation,
03:13:40.650 --> 03:13:42.660
and most recently has been key
03:13:42.660 --> 03:13:45.860
on the CPUC's COVID-19 response efforts.
03:13:45.860 --> 03:13:48.120
Now, before the pandemic,
we were able to travel
03:13:48.120 --> 03:13:51.310
across the state to low-income
oversight board meetings
03:13:51.310 --> 03:13:55.360
and learn about energy
safety and mobile home parks,
03:13:55.360 --> 03:13:58.180
utility emergency operation centers,
03:13:58.180 --> 03:14:00.790
and Mary Claire has had the
03:14:00.790 --> 03:14:02.610
I'll say she had the guts to test
03:14:02.610 --> 03:14:04.500
out the methane capture tarps
03:14:04.500 --> 03:14:07.460
by standing on top of
an active dairy digester.
03:14:07.460 --> 03:14:10.030
She has also generously
shared her outstanding
03:14:10.030 --> 03:14:12.730
cookie decoration skills
to represent our office
03:14:12.730 --> 03:14:15.880
and the friendly Commissioner
office holiday cookie contest
03:14:15.880 --> 03:14:19.844
which hopefully we will be
able to do next holiday season.
03:14:19.844 --> 03:14:22.100
Anyways, best of luck to Mary Claire.
03:14:22.100 --> 03:14:24.270
Thank you so much for all
03:14:24.270 --> 03:14:27.780
of your work for my
office and advising me
03:14:27.780 --> 03:14:31.670
on numerous decisions and
you will be a great addition
03:14:31.670 --> 03:14:33.293
to Commissioner Hoag's new team.
03:14:34.130 --> 03:14:34.963
Thank you.
03:14:34.963 --> 03:14:36.160
Back to you, President Batjer.
03:14:39.238 --> 03:14:40.220
That's a great
lineup, thank you.
03:14:40.220 --> 03:14:41.520
And Commissioner Rechtschaffer,
03:14:41.520 --> 03:14:43.360
I think you'd like to go next?
03:14:43.360 --> 03:14:45.850
Well, I'm sorry that
Commissioner Shiroma brought
03:14:45.850 --> 03:14:49.285
up the cookie contest, 'cause
I'm still smarting over the
03:14:49.285 --> 03:14:53.720
the fact that the results
were fixed because I spoke
03:14:53.720 --> 03:14:57.170
with some of my advisor's
cookies deserved first place,
03:14:57.170 --> 03:15:00.693
but we won't go to
that, we'll take that off.
03:15:00.693 --> 03:15:02.280
You don't know much about Greg.
03:15:02.280 --> 03:15:03.630
It's only been a year.
03:15:03.630 --> 03:15:05.110
Oh no, it's only been a year.
03:15:05.110 --> 03:15:07.513
I'm not thinking about it all the time.
03:15:10.080 --> 03:15:12.973
But I did like MC's
cookies, so there you go.
03:15:13.810 --> 03:15:15.530
I wanted to talk about two things.
03:15:15.530 --> 03:15:19.570
First, I want to thank the,
all the people who came
03:15:19.570 --> 03:15:22.600
to our two-day workshop last week
03:15:22.600 --> 03:15:26.960
on our Environmental and
Social Justice Action Plan.
03:15:26.960 --> 03:15:29.180
We had over 250 participants
03:15:29.180 --> 03:15:34.180
with representing dozens of
organizations came to both days.
03:15:34.460 --> 03:15:37.550
I really want to extend my
thanks to Monica Palmieri,
03:15:37.550 --> 03:15:41.010
Kathleen Yip, Katherine
Yip, sorry, Nicole Cropper
03:15:41.010 --> 03:15:44.754
who did a tremendous
job organizing the program.
03:15:44.754 --> 03:15:46.070
I think it would show
03:15:46.070 --> 03:15:48.940
that we've made a lot of
progress integrating environmental
03:15:48.940 --> 03:15:52.107
and justice considerations
into our (indistinct),
03:15:54.400 --> 03:15:55.933
but we can do more.
03:15:57.188 --> 03:15:58.880
The plan was envisioned
03:15:58.880 --> 03:16:01.530
as a living document to be
updated every couple of years
03:16:01.530 --> 03:16:03.860
and that was what
that exercise was about.
03:16:03.860 --> 03:16:06.683
I think overall, it was
an excellent workshop.
03:16:06.683 --> 03:16:08.680
We had a lot of food for thought for us
03:16:08.680 --> 03:16:11.340
to consider as we move forward.
03:16:11.340 --> 03:16:12.900
I have a staffing update as well.
03:16:12.900 --> 03:16:13.733
I want to introduce
03:16:13.733 --> 03:16:17.690
and welcome Joanna
Penez Green to my office.
03:16:17.690 --> 03:16:20.780
Joanna joined the PUC in 2018.
03:16:20.780 --> 03:16:22.190
She's worked in both the Energy
03:16:22.190 --> 03:16:24.370
and Communications Divisions.
03:16:24.370 --> 03:16:28.200
Most recently, most
recently she was the staff lead
03:16:28.200 --> 03:16:31.750
on the expansion of broadband
and the Lifeline Program.
03:16:31.750 --> 03:16:33.213
Before coming to the PUC,
03:16:34.150 --> 03:16:36.970
Joanna worked in the nonprofit sector
03:16:36.970 --> 03:16:41.050
working on national and
local sustainability initiatives
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on housing, renewable energy,
energy efficiency, and water.
03:16:45.760 --> 03:16:48.660
So I'm delighted to
have Joanna in my office.
03:16:48.660 --> 03:16:51.810
She'll be advising me on
communications, water,
03:16:51.810 --> 03:16:54.283
and a little bit of everything else.
03:16:54.283 --> 03:16:55.233
Thank you.
03:16:58.180 --> 03:16:59.173
That's terrific.
03:17:00.640 --> 03:17:01.990
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
03:17:02.840 --> 03:17:04.150
Thank you, President Batjer.
03:17:04.150 --> 03:17:07.210
I'm also I'm going to be announcing
03:17:07.210 --> 03:17:11.000
a new rotational Advisor, Carry Fiesher.
03:17:11.000 --> 03:17:12.146
Many of you probably know her
03:17:12.146 --> 03:17:14.340
since she's worked
here at the Commission
03:17:14.340 --> 03:17:19.320
since 2017, and she
will hopefully be working
03:17:19.320 --> 03:17:20.950
on many of the same issues,
03:17:20.950 --> 03:17:25.640
especially the PCIA
rulemaking among many others.
03:17:25.640 --> 03:17:28.150
She's had a lot of experience working
03:17:28.150 --> 03:17:31.500
on customer-sided,
renewable energy programs.
03:17:31.500 --> 03:17:35.690
That's where we got to
really know our work at the
03:17:35.690 --> 03:17:38.960
in the work around the
solar consumer protections.
03:17:38.960 --> 03:17:40.420
And of course, as I mentioned,
03:17:40.420 --> 03:17:44.670
she's done a lot around
the Retail Choice Policy.
03:17:44.670 --> 03:17:47.020
Prior to coming to the CPUC,
03:17:47.020 --> 03:17:49.580
Carrie worked at the Energy Foundation
03:17:49.580 --> 03:17:54.257
on clean energy policy and
strategic communications
03:17:54.257 --> 03:17:58.020
at both the state and national levels.
03:17:58.020 --> 03:18:01.760
She has a Master's in
City and Regional Planning
03:18:01.760 --> 03:18:05.120
and a Bachelor's of Art from
the University of Berkeley.
03:18:05.120 --> 03:18:08.778
So please help me
welcoming her to our team.
03:18:08.778 --> 03:18:13.778
And on the other
front, on the public side,
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next Thursday, the 18th,
03:18:17.204 --> 03:18:20.933
I know President Batjer, you
and Commissioner Rechtschaffen
03:18:20.933 --> 03:18:25.933
will be able to join the EPIC
Policy Innovation Forum.
03:18:27.040 --> 03:18:29.380
And this is obviously EPIC being
03:18:29.380 --> 03:18:31.840
our research and development program,
03:18:31.840 --> 03:18:36.272
and want to invite the
public to join us for this forum.
03:18:36.272 --> 03:18:39.330
It's going to be really
an opportunity to learn
03:18:39.330 --> 03:18:42.460
about everything that's
been happening to kind
03:18:42.460 --> 03:18:45.640
of get us all coalesced
around priorities, as well
03:18:45.640 --> 03:18:49.240
as to hear once again from
the public, and really the goal
03:18:49.240 --> 03:18:53.444
of informing rulemaking
as we move forward
03:18:53.444 --> 03:18:57.290
and try to set some
real programmatic focus
03:18:57.290 --> 03:19:01.870
to our work and to the work
of our administering entities
03:19:01.870 --> 03:19:05.300
which the CEC is the primary.
03:19:05.300 --> 03:19:07.930
So that's next to Thursday, the 18th
03:19:07.930 --> 03:19:11.830
and hopefully folks can
take the time to participate.
03:19:11.830 --> 03:19:12.663
Thank you.
03:19:15.530 --> 03:19:18.430
Thank you as well,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
03:19:18.430 --> 03:19:21.080
I'd like to, as Cliff did,
03:19:21.080 --> 03:19:24.000
I'd like to recognize
the tremendous efforts
03:19:24.000 --> 03:19:27.723
of the staff who helped us
host the two-day workshop
03:19:27.723 --> 03:19:29.820
and update of the Environmental and
03:19:29.820 --> 03:19:31.610
Social Justice Action Plan.
03:19:31.610 --> 03:19:33.700
It was an awful lot of work
03:19:33.700 --> 03:19:38.700
and I really thoroughly thank you all.
03:19:39.430 --> 03:19:41.125
Over the course of the two days we had
03:19:41.125 --> 03:19:45.360
over 400 participants from
the Commission staff utilities
03:19:45.360 --> 03:19:47.892
and community-based organizations.
03:19:47.892 --> 03:19:50.730
We heard quite a few discussions
03:19:50.730 --> 03:19:55.590
on how to improve, as Cliff
mentioned, the ESJ and we
03:19:57.630 --> 03:20:01.660
we also the ESJ deputation
and workforce development
03:20:01.660 --> 03:20:04.260
data standardization, transparency
03:20:04.260 --> 03:20:06.290
and our intervener compensation programs
03:20:06.290 --> 03:20:09.730
are all we're all top of mind.
03:20:09.730 --> 03:20:10.610
It was very helpful
03:20:10.610 --> 03:20:13.060
for me to hear some
of those prescriptions.
03:20:13.060 --> 03:20:15.890
I wasn't able to attend
every minute of the, of it,
03:20:15.890 --> 03:20:19.470
but I really, it was very
helpful to particularly
03:20:19.470 --> 03:20:22.370
hear a lot of the concerns
03:20:22.370 --> 03:20:27.370
from the disability community
and disability advocates
03:20:27.810 --> 03:20:31.290
about the specific needs
of that diverse community,
03:20:31.290 --> 03:20:36.290
including work that needs to
be done on direct engagement.
03:20:36.581 --> 03:20:39.560
If you, by the way, for
those who are listening
03:20:39.560 --> 03:20:42.190
if you did not have
the opportunity to do so,
03:20:42.190 --> 03:20:43.790
we still welcome feedback
03:20:43.790 --> 03:20:47.140
on the ideas to update the ESJ plan,
03:20:47.140 --> 03:20:52.017
and you can email us
ESJactionplan, one word,
03:20:52.997 --> 03:21:00.400
@cpuc.ca.gov,
ESJactionplan, one word,
03:21:00.400 --> 03:21:02.100
to submit written comments.
03:21:02.100 --> 03:21:03.740
We will take all the feedback,
03:21:03.740 --> 03:21:07.580
see how to incorporate it in
our plan, and present an update
03:21:07.580 --> 03:21:10.889
to the public review and
comment in the coming months.
03:21:10.889 --> 03:21:15.460
So I'd really like to
thank the ESJ core team
03:21:15.460 --> 03:21:17.600
members who organize the event.
03:21:17.600 --> 03:21:19.700
The effort, as Cliff had mentioned,
03:21:19.700 --> 03:21:22.500
as well as the staff and
community partners who
03:21:22.500 --> 03:21:25.763
helped facilitate the discussions
we had over the two days.
03:21:26.860 --> 03:21:30.157
So on Tuesday, January
26, my fellow Commissioners
03:21:30.157 --> 03:21:33.320
and I held a public meeting together
03:21:33.320 --> 03:21:36.220
with our sister agencies, Cal OES
03:21:36.220 --> 03:21:40.260
and CAL FIRE to hear from the FCE
03:21:40.260 --> 03:21:44.530
about concerns we had
with their overall execution
03:21:44.530 --> 03:21:48.963
of their public safety power
shutoffs last year, in 2020.
03:21:50.418 --> 03:21:53.220
We had a robust
participation from customers
03:21:53.220 --> 03:21:56.620
and elected officials sharing
the stories of the impacts
03:21:56.620 --> 03:21:59.660
of the shutoffs on their
safety and wellbeing.
03:21:59.660 --> 03:22:04.020
And we pressed Edison
to articulate their plan
03:22:04.020 --> 03:22:06.740
to correct the deficiencies we observed
03:22:06.740 --> 03:22:08.720
with their poor communications,
03:22:08.720 --> 03:22:10.750
as well as needed improvements
03:22:10.750 --> 03:22:13.920
in their forecasting
and executing events,
03:22:13.920 --> 03:22:17.263
and identifying and supporting
vulnerable customers.
03:22:18.230 --> 03:22:23.230
We had over 35 or
more people that called in
03:22:24.890 --> 03:22:28.140
with some real concerns
of stories of impact.
03:22:28.140 --> 03:22:29.460
It's quite moving.
03:22:29.460 --> 03:22:32.700
Reducing the scope and
impact of the PSPS events
03:22:32.700 --> 03:22:35.540
to customers has been and will continue
03:22:35.540 --> 03:22:37.837
to be a top priority of this Commission.
03:22:37.837 --> 03:22:40.570
And we will continue
to push the utilities
03:22:40.570 --> 03:22:44.250
to continue to reduce the size and scope
03:22:44.250 --> 03:22:48.874
and only use PSPS as
a measure of last resort.
03:22:48.874 --> 03:22:51.680
In that vein, as a next step,
03:22:51.680 --> 03:22:54.800
Edison must submit a
corrective action plan
03:22:54.800 --> 03:22:57.650
to the Commission by
tomorrow, February 12th.
03:22:57.650 --> 03:23:01.410
Following in that
submission safety leadership
03:23:01.410 --> 03:23:04.620
at the Commission will
be meeting with FCE
03:23:04.620 --> 03:23:09.620
on a bi-weekly basis to
ensure that they are on track,
03:23:12.100 --> 03:23:15.220
stay on track to make
the needed adjustments
03:23:15.220 --> 03:23:18.010
before this year's fire season begins.
03:23:18.010 --> 03:23:19.360
I thank my fellow Commissioners
03:23:19.360 --> 03:23:21.730
for their continuing engagement on this.
03:23:21.730 --> 03:23:22.960
And thank you very much for your
03:23:22.960 --> 03:23:26.470
very active participation
in that meeting.
03:23:26.470 --> 03:23:29.110
That finishes the Commission reports.
03:23:29.110 --> 03:23:32.790
And this is this meeting
is the public meeting
03:23:32.790 --> 03:23:34.250
is now adjourned.
03:23:34.250 --> 03:23:35.710
Thank you all for attending today,
03:23:35.710 --> 03:23:37.443
we appreciate it very much.
03:23:38.430 --> 03:23:42.193
So we will now go into closed
session on legal matters.