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Welcome
to the California
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Public Utilities Commission
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with voting meeting on this day,
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Thursday December 17th, 2020.
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Today's call is being recorded.
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If you have any objections,
you may disconnect at this time.
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President Batjer, you may proceed.
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Thank you operator,
good morning everyone.
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We need to establish a quorum.
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So will the agenda
clerk please call the roll.
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Commissioner Shiroma.
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Present.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
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Here.
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Commissioner Randolph.
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Here.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
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Present.
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President Batjer.
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Here.
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Thank you, we have
established a quorum.
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Welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I call this meeting,
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of December 17th, 2020 Public
Agenda number 3477 to order.
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Due to the Coronavirus pandemic
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and the shelter in place order,
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we are conducting today's
business meeting online
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and by remote participation.
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The meeting is streamed
on the CPUC's website.
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You can view the meeting
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How they engage with is
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Before we begin with
our public comment today,
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I would like to share some thoughts
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with the CPUC community.
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At this time of year
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I am always led to
reflect on love and hope.
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Like many of you,
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I associate this season
with sharing moments
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with family, friends and colleagues.
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Even admits this current
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and challenging moment of the pandemic,
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these sentiments remain strong.
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For it is the love for those dear to me,
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which has kept me from seeing them.
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From seeing their smiles in
person and embracing them.
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I see the surge in numbers
of those who have become ill
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and those we have lost.
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What Southern California
and the Ventral Valley
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are enduring breaks our hearts.
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I can not help continually
ask, what can I do?
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I know that month after month,
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I have consistently suggested
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that we strictly follow
the recommendations
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of our public health experts,
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but it is an understanding
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of what our loved ones mean to us.
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That has motivated me to ask then,
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and today for us to wear
our masks, wash our hands,
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keep our distance and not
gather with those outside
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of our own households.
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Some of these
sacrifices are not painless
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as we all know too well,
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that sacrifice is an
important form of love.
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And making these sacrifices
will improve our chances
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of avoiding other forms of pain.
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And this is where hope comes in.
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Within our CPUC community,
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I have seen tremendous sacrifice
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as we have adapted our
personal and professional lives
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throughout different
stages of the pandemic.
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We have also continued to strive,
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to take care of one another
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and to feel still fulfill
our responsibilities
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to those we serve.
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During the better part of this year
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we have worked to mitigate the impacts
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of utility power shutoffs to
enhance the safety cultures
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of our major utilities, to
ensure reliable electricity
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for the state and to
protect Californians
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and the negative economic
impacts of COVID-19.
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We're doing our part and getting those
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we serve through this difficult moment
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and making sure the
essential services they depend
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on will be part of
propelling their lives
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once we begin to emerge
from this pandemic.
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We are all planning and
working towards better days.
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This is us, feeling hope, so please,
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rest and reflect this holiday season.
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There's so much work
ahead before we realize all
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of our hopes.
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Just think of where you will be
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and what we will have accomplished
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for the state and for
ourselves in getting there.
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And most importantly,
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think of the smiles
you will see before you,
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and those you will embrace
when that moment finally arrived.
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Happy holidays and thank you.
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At this time, we will now
turn to public comments.
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Again, if you wish to
make a public comment
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and you have already dialed
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into the public comment telephone line,
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please press star one to get
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into the public comments queue.
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CPUC rules do not allow
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for parties in proceedings to
speak about open proceedings.
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The public can make
comments addressing items
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on the consent and regular agenda
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and including items
not on today's agenda.
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Please note, that there
will not be public comment
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on items 37, 38, 54, 58
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and all items on the
closed session agenda.
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You will have two minutes to speak.
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Let me repeat that.
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You will have two minutes to speak.
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You will hear a bell.
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You will hear a bell
sound when your time is up.
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Please be mindful of other speakers
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in the queue and keep
to your allotted time.
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With that guidance in mind, I
will welcome today's speakers.
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I will now turn to the operator
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open the public
comment, telephone lines.
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However, before we do open the line
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I do want to remind everyone
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that there will be a
presentation this morning
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after we review the hold
and change agenda items
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by Edward Randolph,
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who is the Deputy Executive Director
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for Energy and Climate Policy.
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The presentation will be on
the 2021 electric rate impacts.
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So for those public interested people,
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who are waiting online to speak,
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we will have a presentation
on rate impacts this morning.
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just the heads-up and
hopefully you'll be able
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to stay up online and
listen to his presentation.
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So, okay, Operator with
that please open the lines.
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Thank you.
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The public comment line is now open.
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If you wish to speak during
the public comment period
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please press star one unmute your phone
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and clearly record your name
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and organization when prompted.
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Our first caller is Barbara
Stebbins, thank you,
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you may go ahead.
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Am I am unmuted?
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Can you hear me?
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We can hear you.
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Okay, thank you.
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I'm Barbara Stebbins with
Local Clean Energy Alliance.
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I'm here today in support of the
Reclaim Our Power movement.
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I am urging this Commission
to prioritize energy resilience
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for frontline communities.
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They are most impacted
by the power shut off.
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They need to own and control
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their own local energy resources
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such as microgrids.
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They should not have to partner
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with such parties as
the investor on utilities.
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They except to have
them connect microgrids
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to the greater grid.
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Track two, should
prioritize the critical facilities
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within communities, microgrids
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for these critical facilities
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such as hospitals, food banks
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and other community resources
that are absolutely you know,
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necessary for life
within our communities.
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This is an opportunity for
this Commission to really show
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that it is aware of its primary duty
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which is to protect the people
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of California and energy
resources to those people.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Ms. Stebbins.
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Operator the next caller, please.
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Our next caller
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is Pastor Brian K. Woodson Senior.
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So you may go ahead.
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Thank you so much.
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This is Reverend Brian
K. Woodson Senior.
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I am the President
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of the Interdenominational
Ministerial Alliance.
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I am the Director of Clergy Development
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at Faith in Action East Bay,
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which is a PICO network Federation.
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I am calling on behalf of our
pastors and congregations
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to ask you to freeze the rates
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for all of our consumers at this time.
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The COVID pandemic has wreaked havoc
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on the people that we serve.
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And I am seeing, and we
are cautious and worried
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about the upcoming possible evictions
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and the people that are our members
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are strapped financially.
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So I'm asking that the
Commission would just freeze rates
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for two years,
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at least 24 months so that
the economy can return.
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People can get back
to their jobs and back
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to You know, to life as normal.
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But at this time when we're...
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The whole world's in crisis,
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I ask that you please not
allow, you know, billionaires
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and investors to make
more money on a rate hike
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squeezing money out of people
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that just simply can't afford it.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Reverend Woodson.
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Operator the next caller, please.
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Our next caller
is Ceyda Durmaz.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, my name is Ceyda Durmaz
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and I'm with Local
Clean Energy Alliance.
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I stand with the Reclaim
Our Power campaign
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to transform our energy system
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to meet community needs.
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We need utilities that are
affordable, safe, resilient
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and community and worker control.
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I hope your decisions
today will bring us closer
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to all of those things.
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If by using microgrids,
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you're trying to help our communities
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become more energy
resilient, then let us own
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and control our own
resilient infrastructure.
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The track to proposed
decision fails to address the need
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for large scale microgrid
facilities in our communities
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which was the purpose of the proceeding.
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It needs to create standards
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like a new microgrid terrace to expand
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to the development of
microgrids in our neighborhoods.
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By putting PG&E in charge of microgrids,
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you just help expand
PG&E's control of our power.
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Also many people already struggled
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to pay their utility bills,
especially during the pandemic.
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And PG&E is worried about not being able
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to increase its profits.
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I think it's a shame that PG&E is trying
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to increase the rates again, thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Operator next caller, please.
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Our [Operator] next
caller is Michael Kaufman.
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You may go ahead.
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Thank you, my
name's Michael Kaufman.
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I'm with the Local Clean Energy Alliance
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and Communities for
a Better Environment.
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And I'm calling because
I am so worried for myself
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and all of the residents of East Oakland
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who are facing evictions,
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facing a pandemic,
facing losing their jobs.
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There's a massive crisis.
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And in the middle of this crisis,
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PG&E wants to raise rates.
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It doesn't feel good.
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It doesn't feel like
it's a holiday season
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when people are struggling
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and yet their electricity
is gonna cost more.
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They won't be able to afford it.
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Please stop PG&E
from paying its investors
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and instead allow PG&E
to have a safe utility
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throughout the Northern California.
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Stop the fires.
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Invest in better utilities.
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Invest in microgrids and
stop raising rates for the rich.
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Thank you.
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To the audience,
Don't turn this off.
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Thank you, Mr. Kaufman.
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Our next caller, please Operator?
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Our next caller is Alan Marlin
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with Alameda County resident.
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So you may go ahead.
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Yes, this is Alan.
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I'm a resident of Alameda County.
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PG&E is a corrupt organization
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guilty of criminal manslaughter.
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It doesn't deserve the hike its rates
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especially during a pandemic.
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Rates should be frozen
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and the company should be
possessed as a public utility.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, sir.
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Next caller, please.
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Operator, the next caller please.
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Operator, we lost the line?
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My apologies please,
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looks like they disconnected.
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Our next caller is Pete (indistinct)
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You may go ahead.
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Good morning Commissioners,
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my name is Pete (indistinct).
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I'm with the Reclaim Or Power Coalition.
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And I, first one
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I appreciate the public
health message that you gave
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at the opening President
Batjer, I appreciate that sentiment
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and also hope that,
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that sentiment can carry through
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into the decisions
that the Commissioners
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have in front of them.
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In June, we had after months and months
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of hundreds of people,
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thousands of people writing to you,
00:15:31.520 --> 00:15:34.630
calling in demanding a responsible plan
00:15:34.630 --> 00:15:37.360
of reorganization that took power away
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from the criminal entity that is PG&E.
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You all said all five of you,
00:15:42.107 --> 00:15:44.990
"We endorse this plan
because it gives us the power
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to finally give us the power
to hold PG&E accountable."
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Well, since then the
(indistinct) has happened.
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PG&E has lied and broken the law
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about the tree trimming
about keeping our families safe.
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Shut off have to shut
off has impacted people
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with disabilities,
low-income people, et cetera.
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It is now time for you to live
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up to the promise that
you made to us in June.
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Appreciate that President Batjer
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you've put forward a
fact-finding mission.
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We want that fact-finding mission
00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:17.050
into the ways that PG&E
has failed to be transparent,
00:16:17.050 --> 00:16:20.500
to be public, to be quick
and to have real teeth,
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initiate the Golden State Energy process
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and take the Wall Street Corporation
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out of the energy that keeps
our families safe and healthy.
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And in the midst of
all of this that you all...
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That PG&E would be thinking
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about raising rates after they have lied
00:16:38.370 --> 00:16:40.370
and stolen from our families for years,
00:16:40.370 --> 00:16:43.120
and now are in the middle of a pandemic
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and a recession while
their Wall Street Portfolio
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is going up as well as trying
to box out our communities
00:16:50.990 --> 00:16:53.120
from the microgrids
proceeding that actually
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is designed to bring communities
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and the most vulnerable
communities at the center.
00:16:58.260 --> 00:17:00.050
We need to shape that in a way
00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:02.590
so that folks can actually hold
00:17:02.590 --> 00:17:05.480
and own their own energy
and not just be chained
00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:06.870
to this Wall Street Corporation
00:17:06.870 --> 00:17:09.270
that has burned us down, smoked us out
00:17:09.270 --> 00:17:10.540
and shut off our power.
00:17:10.540 --> 00:17:13.420
So please, take your
responsibility seriously,
00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:16.260
bring these to the
accountability process.
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Thank you for your time.
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Thank you for your comment.
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Operator the next comment
or the next caller, please?
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Our next caller
is Sheela Gunn-Cushman
00:17:29.820 --> 00:17:33.580
with Electricity Equals Life
and Reclaim Our Power.
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Ma'am you may go ahead.
00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:37.000
Thank you.
00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.420
I'm Sheela Gunn-Cushman,
and I am a renter.
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I'm a person with a disability.
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I live in Oakland.
00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:47.880
Electricity Equals Life
is a small ad hoc group
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of elders and folks with disabilities
00:17:50.450 --> 00:17:52.100
that are very concerned
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about power in the state of California
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both electrical and otherwise,
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20 years, at least PG&E
has been threatening our lives.
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There were brownouts in 2001
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and there were fires just last year
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and years past.
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Some parts of California have
been getting fires every year.
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I'm lucky not to be in one of them.
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I echo a lot of what
folks have said already
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but I find it ironic that if I want
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to be a sustainable household,
00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:36.810
then I will be put over
completely into electricity,
00:18:36.810 --> 00:18:39.030
which my electricity went
00:18:39.030 --> 00:18:42.070
out for six hours the other
day with no warning at all.
00:18:42.070 --> 00:18:47.070
And if I were needing
electricity for my life
00:18:47.100 --> 00:18:49.140
on a moment to moment basis,
00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:50.090
I would have been dead.
00:18:50.090 --> 00:18:51.640
I wouldn't have had the chance.
00:18:53.407 --> 00:18:54.240
And I don't think
00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.380
that investors ought to
hold us hostage anymore.
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I think that we need to get...
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We need to incentivize putting
solar on rental properties.
00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.420
We need to incentivize
taking gas out of things.
00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:11.130
Most of my PG&E bill is actually gas.
00:19:11.130 --> 00:19:12.480
I can't afford a rate hike.
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I don't know anyone who can.
00:19:13.830 --> 00:19:17.120
And I don't wanna pay these
people who have already held us
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for ransom for decades.
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I think we need to own this utility
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make it public and do microgrids
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and become a new world where
solar and renewable energies
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in addition to that are the thing we do
00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:39.670
and not this other
backwards, 50 years old stuff.
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Thanks.
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Thank you, Ms. Cushman.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
00:19:46.420 --> 00:19:48.410
Our next
caller is David McCord.
00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:49.510
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:52.010
Hi, I'm David McCord
00:19:52.010 --> 00:19:54.550
and I'm a great payer of electricity.
00:19:54.550 --> 00:19:59.550
And I'm speaking on the proposed
decision filed December 7th
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and the proceeding to
facilitate commercialization
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of microgrids.
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That was a ruling...
Rule making 1909009.
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Microgrids must reduce emissions.
00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.560
Please support solar and storage
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with appropriate valuation
00:20:22.300 --> 00:20:25.620
of greenhouse gas free local generation
00:20:25.620 --> 00:20:27.890
and storage resources.
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Eliminate diesel generation.
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CPUC must engage
community choice aggregators
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and local governments
00:20:38.020 --> 00:20:41.740
for their input roadblocks
to their installation
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of microgrids and their
territories need to be removed.
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The boards of CCA's
represent the local cities
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and counties who know local
situations and opportunities.
00:20:56.670 --> 00:21:01.560
We need to facilitate
connections across property lines
00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:05.050
and streets, so that
essential government
00:21:05.050 --> 00:21:07.660
and other services kind of stay on
00:21:07.660 --> 00:21:09.393
during power shutoffs.
00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.450
And last but important,
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we need to prioritize
disadvantaged communities
00:21:17.470 --> 00:21:19.540
and environmental justice.
00:21:19.540 --> 00:21:20.373
Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr McCord.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
00:21:27.380 --> 00:21:30.070
Our next
caller is John Serino.
00:21:30.070 --> 00:21:32.151
Serino, you may go ahead.
00:21:32.151 --> 00:21:35.570
Yes, PG&E
initiated a public safety
00:21:35.570 --> 00:21:39.840
shut-off in North County,
San Diego on December 2nd
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to December 4th.
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All the communities around us had power.
00:21:44.630 --> 00:21:46.670
Our power was off for so long.
00:21:46.670 --> 00:21:50.240
We lost internet phone
service and cell service.
00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.340
Our cell service was extremely limited.
00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:55.150
As PG&E has no plans
00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:57.740
or a timeline to rectify the situations
00:21:57.740 --> 00:22:00.243
and bills to compensate
us for our waters.
00:22:01.280 --> 00:22:05.150
A loss of work, a loss of food spoilage.
00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:08.070
I lost the security and safety.
00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:10.800
We pay the same rate as
the communities around us
00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:15.150
but get less service and
no means for compensation.
00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:19.180
PG&E, less service, same
rate decision they say was made
00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:21.140
by the CPUC.
00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:23.726
The CPUC controls us.
00:22:23.726 --> 00:22:27.270
Thais's absolutely unfair,
to pay the same rates
00:22:27.270 --> 00:22:28.570
for less service.
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How has this... How
has the CPUC going
00:22:30.910 --> 00:22:34.230
to address the rate,
costs, the equity situation
00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.090
for those impacted by your policies?
00:22:36.090 --> 00:22:41.050
If you would please
address this, thank you.
00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:42.250
Thank you, Mr. Serino.
00:22:43.396 --> 00:22:44.229
Operator, the next caller.
00:22:44.229 --> 00:22:48.729
(indistinct) but that's fine.
00:22:49.770 --> 00:22:51.800
Thank you, our
next caller is Jim Stewart.
00:22:51.800 --> 00:22:52.650
You may go ahead.
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.280
Hi, I'm Dr. Jim
Stewart energy consultant.
00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:00.113
And I first...
00:23:00.113 --> 00:23:03.090
I wanna congratulate
Commissioner Randolph
00:23:03.090 --> 00:23:04.650
on your run new position
00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:07.903
as President of the Resources Board.
00:23:09.510 --> 00:23:10.343
Well, we know that you have big shoes
00:23:10.343 --> 00:23:13.300
to fill but we're counting on you
00:23:13.300 --> 00:23:15.600
to do an even better job than Mary
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.700
because California needs to be the model
00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:24.700
to show the world how we
can get to net zero before 2045.
00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:28.900
In fact, I think the
whole world is depending
00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:32.043
on you, go for it dear
Commissioner Randolph.
00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:37.540
I wanna also say that the
proposed microgrid decision
00:23:37.540 --> 00:23:39.631
is a big step forward
00:23:39.631 --> 00:23:41.023
and I wanna commend your staff
00:23:41.023 --> 00:23:44.730
and the ALJ that things
could move forward.
00:23:44.730 --> 00:23:48.120
Like option one is a good start
00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:53.120
but obviously you
can't limit that definition
00:23:54.804 --> 00:23:58.570
of facilities to those owned
by municipal corporations.
00:23:58.570 --> 00:24:01.190
What are we going to do about, you know,
00:24:01.190 --> 00:24:03.820
power shutoff and we've got hospitals
00:24:03.820 --> 00:24:07.560
and senior centers and
schools hosting evacuees?
00:24:07.560 --> 00:24:08.970
We're gonna shutoff their power
00:24:08.970 --> 00:24:11.556
because they're not a municipal owned?
00:24:11.556 --> 00:24:15.070
(indistinct) come on, you
can improve option one.
00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:20.070
You've got time between
now and January to get it fixed.
00:24:20.340 --> 00:24:24.700
And, I am calling on you
Commissioners to direct the staff
00:24:24.700 --> 00:24:28.830
and the ALJ to improve this thing.
00:24:28.830 --> 00:24:32.120
So we really have microgrids
that reduce emissions
00:24:32.120 --> 00:24:35.254
and, don't increase
fossil fuel generation
00:24:35.254 --> 00:24:40.140
and prioritize the
disadvantaged communities
00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:43.120
and environmental justice.
00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:45.623
We're depending on
you go for it, thank you.
00:24:47.550 --> 00:24:49.150
Thank you Dr. Stewart.
00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:50.313
Next caller, please.
00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:54.540
Our next
caller is Parker (indistinct)
00:24:54.540 --> 00:24:57.973
with Peninsula DSA
and Reclaim Our Power.
00:24:57.973 --> 00:24:58.923
So, you may go ahead.
00:25:00.830 --> 00:25:04.150
Hi, I'm
calling today to say
00:25:04.150 --> 00:25:06.350
that I stand with the
Reclaim Our Power campaign
00:25:06.350 --> 00:25:08.510
to transform the energy system.
00:25:08.510 --> 00:25:12.047
And during your opening
speech, President Batjer
00:25:12.047 --> 00:25:14.760
you talked about this being
the season of love and hope
00:25:14.760 --> 00:25:16.370
but I'm not feeling hopeful.
00:25:16.370 --> 00:25:18.420
There is an eviction crisis looming,
00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:20.510
people have thousands
of dollars in debt.
00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:22.730
The climate crisis is
already killing people
00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:25.700
and I'd like to see you
hold PG&E accountable
00:25:26.750 --> 00:25:29.243
to pursue the plan
to revoke their license.
00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:33.550
We in California have
a huge responsibility
00:25:33.550 --> 00:25:36.200
to the global solutions.
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.137
We have a huge economy
00:25:38.137 --> 00:25:40.690
and we can really be
a model of net zero.
00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:45.690
Since the CPUC introduced
the plan on June 30th,
00:25:46.020 --> 00:25:49.750
the PG&E has continued to start fires.
00:25:49.750 --> 00:25:51.493
They've killed more people.
00:25:53.060 --> 00:25:55.460
They've cut down the wrong trees.
00:25:55.460 --> 00:25:58.650
There are shutoff events,
as Sheela mentioned
00:25:58.650 --> 00:26:02.120
that are putting
disabled people in harm.
00:26:02.120 --> 00:26:03.920
They could actually be killing them.
00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:05.960
People aren't getting noticed
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:10.210
for these shutoffs and
it's unconscionable.
00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:12.650
We are letting people die.
00:26:12.650 --> 00:26:14.210
And today, President Batjer,
00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:16.910
I'm hoping that you can
initiate the fact finding
00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:21.283
so that we can start the
plan to revoke their license.
00:26:22.430 --> 00:26:24.293
We have to fix the climate crisis.
00:26:25.340 --> 00:26:26.730
It's really taking off.
00:26:26.730 --> 00:26:27.563
Thank you.
00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:30.640
Thank you very much.
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.213
Operator, the next call please.
00:26:34.650 --> 00:26:37.030
Our next
caller is Keith (indistinct)
00:26:37.030 --> 00:26:37.880
You may go ahead.
00:26:40.040 --> 00:26:41.297
Thank you.
00:26:41.297 --> 00:26:42.210
I'd like to thank the Commission
00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:44.495
for allowing me to speak today.
00:26:44.495 --> 00:26:45.620
My name is Keith Anthony (indistinct)
00:26:45.620 --> 00:26:46.500
I'm the current chair
00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.650
of the Environmental
Justice Advisory Group
00:26:48.650 --> 00:26:51.660
Valley Air District Fresno office.
00:26:51.660 --> 00:26:53.760
And I'd like to just say real quick
00:26:53.760 --> 00:26:56.780
that we have an environmental
criminal here in PG&E.
00:26:56.780 --> 00:26:58.720
We need to resize and
microgrid, you know,
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.490
regional local and grid
free power systems.
00:27:02.490 --> 00:27:06.330
So disenfranchising the
less fortunate and consumer,
00:27:06.330 --> 00:27:08.520
is only the only options left
00:27:08.520 --> 00:27:12.270
for people who cannot
stay up with their power bills.
00:27:12.270 --> 00:27:15.853
You know, it's a mismanaged
and abusive to the structure.
00:27:16.850 --> 00:27:20.480
I'm speaking also on behalf
of my 87 year old mother
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.290
who's been locked in a trailer
in a remote location isolated
00:27:23.290 --> 00:27:26.580
for 10 months because
of the COVID pandemic,
00:27:26.580 --> 00:27:28.570
living on fixed social security
00:27:28.570 --> 00:27:32.530
of 850 a month and raise
a PG&E rates right now
00:27:32.530 --> 00:27:34.090
would just destroy her.
00:27:34.090 --> 00:27:38.100
Living and her... The
money that she's allocated
00:27:38.100 --> 00:27:39.713
for food and medication.
00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:43.070
PG&E can wait for their returns
00:27:43.070 --> 00:27:46.280
by borrowing from private
sector re-collateralizing assets
00:27:46.280 --> 00:27:48.923
or by applying for federal
emergency support grants.
00:27:50.070 --> 00:27:53.870
Got to remember this is a
for-profit California corporation,
00:27:53.870 --> 00:27:55.770
and they are using
these rate hikes to pay
00:27:55.770 --> 00:28:00.390
for their mismanaged
utility grid systems.
00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:02.170
And that have caused the wildfires
00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:04.010
in the state of California.
00:28:04.010 --> 00:28:08.500
Our company and our
group has done some studies
00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.910
and our staff has
discovered that if one wildfire
00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:14.386
can make up for a whole year's...
00:28:14.386 --> 00:28:16.300
Can destroy a whole year's worth
00:28:16.300 --> 00:28:19.360
of advanced in clean air.
00:28:19.360 --> 00:28:21.270
The only way to stop this insanity is
00:28:21.270 --> 00:28:23.340
to deCommission the entire utility
00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:25.330
and auction off the assets for services
00:28:25.330 --> 00:28:26.823
and state owned utilities.
00:28:28.450 --> 00:28:31.429
Thank you so much for giving
me an opportunity to speak.
00:28:31.429 --> 00:28:32.762
And I thank you.
00:28:34.303 --> 00:28:35.430
Thank you, sir.
00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:37.080
Operator the next caller, please.
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.300
Our next
caller is Jimmy Lee.
00:28:41.300 --> 00:28:42.300
So you may go ahead.
00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:48.400
Hi, this is Jimmy Lee
coming from Sunrise Bay area
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.570
and as a community
worker in San Francisco.
00:28:52.570 --> 00:28:55.920
I'm standing with the
Reclaim Our Power coalition
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.900
and I wanna make two points today.
00:28:57.900 --> 00:29:00.760
The first we definitely
need community focused
00:29:00.760 --> 00:29:03.230
and community owned energy systems.
00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:07.380
You know, can we use people
who just live regular lives?
00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:11.190
Shouldn't be in fear and
live in fear of how PG&E
00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.713
or any, you make decisions
about their power shutoff?
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.620
Especially when these
power shutoffs aren't the result
00:29:18.620 --> 00:29:20.310
of anything they've done.
00:29:20.310 --> 00:29:23.113
And the result of PG&E is negligence.
00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:28.020
It's also really interesting
to me that hospitals,
00:29:28.020 --> 00:29:30.650
food banks, nursing homes,
schools, community centers
00:29:30.650 --> 00:29:32.680
and the people who work here,
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.737
the people who really serve communities
00:29:34.737 --> 00:29:37.560
and the people who are most vulnerable
00:29:37.560 --> 00:29:40.590
aren't proactively sought
out and asked their opinion
00:29:40.590 --> 00:29:43.550
and asked to be at these conversations,
00:29:43.550 --> 00:29:47.100
I really encourage the
CPUC to strongly consider how
00:29:47.100 --> 00:29:48.970
to be more proactive and
how to bring these groups
00:29:48.970 --> 00:29:51.050
into the conversation and ask them,
00:29:51.050 --> 00:29:52.330
what are the needs?
00:29:52.330 --> 00:29:54.218
How do we do it?
00:29:54.218 --> 00:29:55.051
And then how do we help?
00:29:55.051 --> 00:29:59.193
how do those groups help plan
a microgrid for these people?
00:30:01.137 --> 00:30:02.490
And the second point that I wanna make
00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:03.560
is that I wanna emphasize
00:30:03.560 --> 00:30:04.700
that families are really struggling.
00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:07.170
We've heard it from some
other people on this call.
00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:08.770
I was on the phone last week
00:30:08.770 --> 00:30:11.420
trying to provide
family financial support.
00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.290
But the company organization I worked
00:30:13.290 --> 00:30:14.840
for of course, is running low on funds.
00:30:14.840 --> 00:30:16.980
We've been 10 months in this pandemic
00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:19.110
and we're still trying to
support families financially.
00:30:19.110 --> 00:30:22.150
And in other ways, obviously
funds are running low.
00:30:22.150 --> 00:30:23.873
So we had to ask, you know,
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.970
you have a choice as
either we can provide money
00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:29.320
for food or provide money for bills.
00:30:29.320 --> 00:30:30.990
And having that conversation
00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:32.790
with the family is really difficult.
00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:37.003
Putting that choice on a
family is extremely immoral.
00:30:38.143 --> 00:30:40.593
And so I please ask that
you make sure that bills
00:30:43.520 --> 00:30:46.820
don't raise in price and that
we don't ask these families
00:30:46.820 --> 00:30:48.290
to pay any bills any more.
00:30:48.290 --> 00:30:49.420
Can we extend the moratorium?
00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:52.400
Can we just make bills for
these most vulnerable families
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.530
not a thing anymore?
00:30:53.530 --> 00:30:54.363
Thank you.
00:30:59.114 --> 00:31:00.660
Thank you, sir.
00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:02.310
Operator the next caller, please.
00:31:04.060 --> 00:31:06.630
Our next
caller is Joseph Ferrara.
00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:07.763
Ferrara, you may go ahead.
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.420
Hi, this
is Joseph Ferrara.
00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:16.790
I'm with East Bay DSA
Democratic Socialists for America.
00:31:16.790 --> 00:31:19.080
I'm calling because yeah,
00:31:19.080 --> 00:31:22.680
the CPUC must hold PG&E accountable
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.630
for their failure to
keep California safe.
00:31:25.630 --> 00:31:28.690
We must plan to revoke PG&E license
00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:30.910
and initiate a public takeover
00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:34.400
with democratic structures
for community control.
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.680
We must protect rate
payers from having to pay
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.460
for PG&E's negligence in causing fires.
00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:42.690
And we need a rate freeze now
00:31:42.690 --> 00:31:45.280
and to cancel all utility debt.
00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:46.330
I heard the woman
00:31:46.330 --> 00:31:50.270
at the beginning talking about
improving the safety culture.
00:31:50.270 --> 00:31:52.740
So, culture has nothing to do with this.
00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:55.170
As we've seen with so
many aspects of society,
00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.160
it's the profit motive
itself that is killing people
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.570
and destroying the planet.
00:31:59.570 --> 00:32:01.800
And we can try to
ignore this all we want,
00:32:01.800 --> 00:32:03.250
but it's with everything
00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:07.820
I mean, from education
to, I mean, evictions,
00:32:07.820 --> 00:32:11.510
I mean go down the list where
we can't ignore this anymore.
00:32:11.510 --> 00:32:14.730
What we need is a publicly
owned democratically
00:32:14.730 --> 00:32:18.500
controlled power utility
that is operated as a service
00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.840
and not as a profit generating tool
00:32:20.840 --> 00:32:22.247
for the capital (indistinct).
00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:27.380
That's all.
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:28.850
Thank you, sir.
00:32:28.850 --> 00:32:30.623
Operator next caller, please.
00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:34.390
Our next
caller is Benny Zenke
00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:35.570
with East Bay DSA
00:32:36.516 --> 00:32:37.413
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:32:40.290 --> 00:32:42.510
Yeah, hi, thank you, again.
00:32:42.510 --> 00:32:43.343
My name is Benny Zenke.
00:32:43.343 --> 00:32:47.840
I'm also with the East Bay
Democratic Socialists of America.
00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:50.423
I'm on the steering
committee of the chapter.
00:32:51.791 --> 00:32:56.791
I'm calling in for the
same reason as basically
00:32:57.040 --> 00:32:59.370
all the other callers on the line.
00:32:59.370 --> 00:33:04.110
I stand with the Reclaim Our
Power coalition in demanding
00:33:04.110 --> 00:33:06.670
that the CPUC really worked
00:33:06.670 --> 00:33:10.023
to transform our energy systems
to meet community needs.
00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:14.160
As we've seen, even this year
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.160
post-bankruptcy PG&E is
still not doing what they said
00:33:20.010 --> 00:33:21.740
that they were going to do.
00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:26.740
So, they're not doing the
tree trimming that is needed.
00:33:27.910 --> 00:33:32.910
They're not addressing the
concerns brought forward
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.060
and the reasons that they were
00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:37.490
in bankruptcy in the first place.
00:33:37.490 --> 00:33:39.900
I do appreciate President Batjer
00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:41.690
for initiating fact finding.
00:33:41.690 --> 00:33:44.770
I really hope that
there's some teeth there
00:33:45.810 --> 00:33:48.690
and I just really ask the Commission
00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:53.690
to consider what it will take
for PG&E to no longer exist.
00:33:53.810 --> 00:33:57.940
How many mistakes, how
many lives need to be lost?
00:33:57.940 --> 00:33:59.680
How many fires need to be set?
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.200
How many times people need
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.116
to have their power shut off before?
00:34:04.116 --> 00:34:06.370
You know, we say enough is enough.
00:34:06.370 --> 00:34:11.370
I think a lot of people feel
that has the pandemic not come
00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:17.900
to California and the
United States in the world.
00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:21.363
Maybe we would have
had a different outcome
00:34:21.363 --> 00:34:22.920
with PG&E this year,
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.520
it's clear that the Governor
and his staff had too much
00:34:27.520 --> 00:34:32.520
on their plate to address
this thoroughly, unfortunately,
00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:36.290
and now we're dealing with fires
00:34:36.290 --> 00:34:39.160
and shut off in the
middle of a pandemic.
00:34:39.160 --> 00:34:41.020
These are all interconnected issues.
00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:42.250
They're not separate issues.
00:34:42.250 --> 00:34:47.250
And I do hope that the CPUC
take their duty very seriously
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.870
and try to really tackle
this problem there.
00:34:51.870 --> 00:34:52.703
Thank you.
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.253
Thank you, operator
next caller, please.
00:34:59.350 --> 00:35:01.470
next caller
is Connie Stewart.
00:35:01.470 --> 00:35:02.620
Ma'am you may go ahead.
00:35:03.700 --> 00:35:06.330
Hi there, thank
you very much Commission.
00:35:06.330 --> 00:35:10.120
I'm calling on behalf of
Redwood Coast Connect
00:35:10.120 --> 00:35:13.690
to in support of
consent items, 24 and 25
00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:16.420
which will be bringing needed broadband
00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:19.850
to our co Redwood Coast community.
00:35:19.850 --> 00:35:22.470
I wanna thank frontier communication
00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:25.430
for working closely with our communities
00:35:25.430 --> 00:35:28.010
on the Crescent City
and Smith River projects.
00:35:28.010 --> 00:35:31.268
They've actually been
very wonderful to work with
00:35:31.268 --> 00:35:34.090
and I wanna thank the Commission's staff
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.730
for helping get these projects in front
00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:43.673
of you and congratulate the
Hoopa Tribe for their project.
00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:49.405
We're very excited about
having these path, so thank you.
00:35:49.405 --> 00:35:51.953
And I wish you would
support them today, thanks.
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.200
Thank you, Ms. Stewart.
00:35:56.200 --> 00:35:57.900
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:36:00.391 --> 00:36:01.670
Our next
caller is Eddie Price.
00:36:01.670 --> 00:36:02.843
Sir, you may go ahead.
00:36:04.890 --> 00:36:05.723
Good afternoon.
00:36:05.723 --> 00:36:06.730
My name is Eddie price.
00:36:06.730 --> 00:36:09.980
I live in San Diego, California.
00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:14.710
I am the chair of the
Community Advisory Committee
00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:16.570
for San Diego community power.
00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:20.870
And I'm a recent awardee of the
Clean Energy Champion award
00:36:20.870 --> 00:36:23.850
from the state of California.
00:36:23.850 --> 00:36:28.003
I'm calling in reference
to item number 42.
00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:33.620
As I look at what I can
actually understand from it,
00:36:33.620 --> 00:36:35.500
there was a proposed decision that came
00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:36.760
out a few weeks ago
00:36:37.780 --> 00:36:41.540
and then corrected the
inaccurate info from SDG&E.
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.880
Recently, there's a revised decision
00:36:48.247 --> 00:36:50.150
and it is based upon faulty math
00:36:50.150 --> 00:36:53.943
and faulty mathematics that
everybody knows is faulty.
00:36:56.002 --> 00:37:01.002
It will be bad for the launch
of San Diego community power
00:37:01.390 --> 00:37:05.440
down here to have faulty
data coming from SDG&E
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.300
that only lasts for a little while.
00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:11.090
And apparently his
only motive is to stall
00:37:12.680 --> 00:37:15.723
or eliminate the launch of
San Diego community power.
00:37:17.020 --> 00:37:19.330
We would like, or I
would like, you know,
00:37:19.330 --> 00:37:22.530
more transparency from SDG&E.
00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:25.860
On these numbers, I
would like to support
00:37:25.860 --> 00:37:28.760
of the California Public
Utilities Commission.
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.360
If you know the data is faulty
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.000
why are we operating off of faulty data
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.500
just because it's a program
00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:37.590
that's the way we used to do things.
00:37:37.590 --> 00:37:38.840
It's a brand new day.
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.230
It's a brand new paradigm
00:37:41.734 --> 00:37:43.520
and community power is here to stay.
00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:46.760
And we would really
like you to actually,
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.520
if it's a law or a program
00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:52.320
or a process that the public
utilities Commission is using
00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:54.980
that doesn't work today,
00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:57.700
I would really like, you
know, you to look at it,
00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:00.590
change it and come back again.
00:38:00.590 --> 00:38:03.620
I really don't understand
how you can make a decision
00:38:03.620 --> 00:38:07.000
and then revise the decision based upon
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.850
on faulty mathematics.
00:38:08.850 --> 00:38:11.430
This is very important
00:38:11.430 --> 00:38:14.280
to the communities of San
Diego, to equity, to communities
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:18.060
of concern in San Diego
for the future of energy,
00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:20.640
energy programs and
things of that nature
00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:23.140
that SDG&E not really doing
00:38:23.140 --> 00:38:25.420
and doesn't have any intention to do.
00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:28.590
So I would really, that's a bell
00:38:28.590 --> 00:38:32.820
I guess I'm supposed
to be quiet now, okay.
00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:35.860
It is an indication that
your time's up Mr. Price.
00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:38.494
Okay, thank you,
have a beautiful day
00:38:38.494 --> 00:38:39.470
and a happy holiday.
00:38:39.470 --> 00:38:41.463
Thank you very
much, same to you.
00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:44.760
Operators, the next caller, please.
00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:49.070
Our next
caller is Tracy Rosenberg.
00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:50.220
Ma'am you may go ahead.
00:38:51.220 --> 00:38:53.260
Yes, thank you.
00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:55.010
Good morning, Commissioners.
00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:57.000
My name is Tracy Rosenberg.
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.600
I am the director of Media Alliance.
00:39:01.600 --> 00:39:03.530
I'm calling today on behalf
00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:08.530
of my members who cross
the nine County Bay area.
00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:12.340
Many of them are freelancers
00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:17.340
and contract workers and gig workers.
00:39:18.210 --> 00:39:20.460
And what they're all telling me,
00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:25.050
is that their income
has slowed to a trickle.
00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:26.930
There's no work out there
00:39:26.930 --> 00:39:29.230
and they're having
trouble paying the bills
00:39:29.230 --> 00:39:30.850
that they already have.
00:39:30.850 --> 00:39:35.400
Much less new larger
and increased bills.
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.160
We're saying that this is
a time of shared sacrifice.
00:39:39.160 --> 00:39:42.290
And yet we have a criminal
corporation that is saying
00:39:42.290 --> 00:39:45.640
that they're not included
in those sacrifices.
00:39:45.640 --> 00:39:47.423
That's plain wrong.
00:39:48.640 --> 00:39:52.460
We support the call for
a two year rate freeze.
00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:56.060
That's the minimum that we can do
00:39:56.060 --> 00:40:01.060
to help people economically recover.
00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:04.500
We are working with a
national coalition that is calling
00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:09.500
for no more utility shutoffs,
because energy is life.
00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:14.270
It's the ability to survive.
00:40:14.270 --> 00:40:17.350
And at this time, and at this place
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.520
we have no other choice.
00:40:19.520 --> 00:40:21.330
So again, we are supporting the call
00:40:21.330 --> 00:40:23.660
for a two year rate freeze
00:40:23.660 --> 00:40:26.700
and we also support the many speakers
00:40:26.700 --> 00:40:30.473
who have talked about
PG&E's appalling record
00:40:32.350 --> 00:40:37.218
and the need to de-Commission PG&E
00:40:37.218 --> 00:40:39.880
as a public utility in
the state of California.
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:40.713
Thanks.
00:40:42.483 --> 00:40:44.400
Thank you, Ms. Rosenberg.
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.100
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:40:48.470 --> 00:40:49.760
Our next
caller is Tracy Greene
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.170
with Bay Area Regional
Health Inequities Initiative.
00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:54.320
You may go ahead Ma'am.
00:40:55.470 --> 00:40:56.400
Good morning.
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.260
I'm Tracy Greene
00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:00.290
with the Bay Area Regional
Health Inequities Initiative.
00:41:00.290 --> 00:41:01.460
BARHII is the coalition
00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:03.820
of the Bay Areas' 11
public health departments
00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:06.360
founded specifically to
advance health equity
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.090
along with (indistinct)
00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:10.420
the coalition to end
poverty in the Bay area.
00:41:10.420 --> 00:41:13.340
I'm speaking about the CPUC rate freeze.
00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:15.080
The pandemic has laid bare the racial
00:41:15.080 --> 00:41:17.820
and income related disparities
that have long existed
00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:18.653
in our region.
00:41:18.653 --> 00:41:20.310
And the Bay area is no different.
00:41:20.310 --> 00:41:23.280
These in fact are visible in
their heightened form now.
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.360
The burden of how the
rents and energy deals
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.020
in such a context will post
several health implications
00:41:28.020 --> 00:41:29.750
for residents, particularly those
00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:31.550
in a vulnerable group,
00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:34.420
and specifically wants
moratorium are lifted.
00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:37.440
Similar to a study that
established a significant increase
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.850
in COVID-19 incidents
with the exploration
00:41:39.850 --> 00:41:43.320
of eviction beds in several
States in the United States,
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.270
loss of access to energy
will only exacerbate
00:41:46.270 --> 00:41:48.460
the rise in Corona virus infection,
00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:49.797
particularly among low income people
00:41:49.797 --> 00:41:51.700
and communities of color.
00:41:51.700 --> 00:41:53.150
For residents who have lost jobs
00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:56.140
or wages due to furloughs
or shattered businesses.
00:41:56.140 --> 00:41:58.470
It's now even harder
to cobble together rent
00:41:58.470 --> 00:42:00.950
or afford elevator utility payments.
00:42:00.950 --> 00:42:03.350
Once the moratoriums
expires, low income people
00:42:03.350 --> 00:42:05.390
who are evicted will have
to turn to other families
00:42:05.390 --> 00:42:08.130
or to shelters creating
overcrowded situations.
00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:11.800
And with the Coronavirus
can be easily transmitted.
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.280
Access to energy is crucial
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.930
for struggling families to stay housed.
00:42:15.930 --> 00:42:18.780
BARHII or just the
Commission to adopt a rate free
00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.050
for low income families in the Bay Area,
00:42:21.050 --> 00:42:23.760
Specifically those who've
been shouldering larger rearages
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.140
until the region is out
of the current risk levels.
00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:29.060
And the economic
situation has stabilized.
00:42:29.060 --> 00:42:30.460
And instead, shift the burden
00:42:30.460 --> 00:42:32.450
of payment to those who can afford it.
00:42:32.450 --> 00:42:34.280
And to PG&E itself.
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.720
The care program of the Commission
00:42:35.720 --> 00:42:36.880
has been pretty successful
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.270
in facilitating low income families
00:42:39.270 --> 00:42:42.500
with payment plans and
could offer PG&E helpful ways
00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:43.780
to administer the rate freezes
00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:46.500
for families who are already struggling.
00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:49.790
Protecting people from
eviction isn't just a housing issue
00:42:49.790 --> 00:42:53.500
but a necessary public health
pandemic mitigation strategy.
00:42:53.500 --> 00:42:55.250
I thank you for your consideration.
00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:58.593
Thank you.
00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:01.860
Operator, the next caller please.
00:43:04.410 --> 00:43:05.750
And before
we go to the next caller,
00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:07.970
if you wish to speak during
the public comment period,
00:43:07.970 --> 00:43:10.390
please press star one, unmute your phone
00:43:10.390 --> 00:43:11.760
and clearly provides your name
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.810
and organization when prompted.
00:43:13.810 --> 00:43:15.700
Our next caller is Edward Burgess.
00:43:15.700 --> 00:43:16.700
So you may go ahead.
00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:20.640
I think
you said (indistinct)
00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:23.020
with the Vehicle-Grid
Integration Council.
00:43:23.020 --> 00:43:25.610
My comments pertain to
item 19 on the Consent Agenda
00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:29.710
which relates to SB-676 and
Vehicle-Grid Integration issues.
00:43:29.710 --> 00:43:32.480
We wanna applaud the
Commission for developing an order
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.380
which we think really
helps move the ball forward
00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:36.140
on Vehicle-Grid Integration.
00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:37.470
As we pointed out in our comments
00:43:37.470 --> 00:43:39.805
and the drive (indistinct) proceeding
00:43:39.805 --> 00:43:41.880
is great potential to
use CGI technologies
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.330
to simultaneously accelerate
electric vehicle adoption
00:43:45.330 --> 00:43:48.340
while also leveraging
EV's as a grid asset
00:43:48.340 --> 00:43:51.410
to improve reliability and resiliency.
00:43:51.410 --> 00:43:54.210
We estimate that even just
5% of the vehicles expected
00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:57.150
to be on the road by
2025, if they were leveraged
00:43:57.150 --> 00:44:00.800
as a grid resource that could
amount to over 1,500 megawatts
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.370
of system capacity,
which could go a long way
00:44:03.370 --> 00:44:05.940
towards preventing rotating outages.
00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:08.160
While this order is an
important step forward
00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:09.800
there's more work to be done
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.610
particularly on maximizing the potential
00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:14.770
for EV to serve as a
demand response resource.
00:44:14.770 --> 00:44:16.360
Additionally, we believe
the order fell short
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.060
on developing a pathway for forward
00:44:19.060 --> 00:44:22.330
for vehicle to grid
energy exports in terms
00:44:22.330 --> 00:44:25.570
of how those resources can
be appropriately compensated.
00:44:25.570 --> 00:44:26.980
Apparently there's no active proceeding.
00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:28.160
We're aware of this doing this.
00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:29.840
So, we look forward to working more
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.210
with the Commission
on these issues forward,
00:44:32.210 --> 00:44:35.007
and we applaud the order
that Was put forward here today.
00:44:35.007 --> 00:44:36.557
And we thank you for your time.
00:44:39.277 --> 00:44:40.520
Thank you, sir.
00:44:40.520 --> 00:44:42.583
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:44:44.917 --> 00:44:47.840
And our next
caller is Mari Rose Taruc.
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.040
Ma'am, you may go ahead.
00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:52.500
Good morning Commissioners.
00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:53.610
This is Mari Rose Taruc.
00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:56.920
I'm the coordinator for the
Reclaim Our Power campaign
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.400
formed by thousands
of wildfires survivors
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.670
environmental justice communities,
00:45:02.670 --> 00:45:04.870
youth disability justice advocates
00:45:04.870 --> 00:45:07.050
and frontline communities and workers.
00:45:07.050 --> 00:45:11.130
And we're all working to
restructure our energy system away
00:45:11.130 --> 00:45:14.640
from dangerous PG&E and toward community
00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:18.680
and worker controlled utility
that meets our community needs
00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:21.230
because we know PG&E doesn't do that.
00:45:21.230 --> 00:45:23.590
So we need your attention and action
00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:26.980
on three issues and appeal to your heart
00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:30.570
and humanity as thousands
are dying right now
00:45:30.570 --> 00:45:34.300
from COVID disproportionately
impacting black indigenous
00:45:34.300 --> 00:45:37.570
and communities of
color and needing help,
00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:39.843
including energy resilience.
00:45:40.790 --> 00:45:43.990
So the three parts are one.
00:45:43.990 --> 00:45:45.640
We need you to move quickly
00:45:45.640 --> 00:45:48.560
and transparently to
revoke PG&E's licensed
00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:52.870
to operate as outlined in
your plan of reorganization.
00:45:52.870 --> 00:45:55.000
There've been five
offs that they've called...
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.020
That they've done this year.
00:45:57.020 --> 00:46:00.210
That's caused
destruction with this wildfire
00:46:00.210 --> 00:46:03.863
and they violated Judge
Alsup's orders for fire mitigation.
00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:08.460
Second, we need your action on
00:46:08.460 --> 00:46:11.160
that frontline communities
need to be resilient
00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:14.410
through fire season and all the time
00:46:14.410 --> 00:46:17.680
we need microgrids to
provide resilient power
00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:21.090
to facilities in our
communities that are critical
00:46:21.090 --> 00:46:24.120
like our health clinics,
our childcare centers
00:46:24.120 --> 00:46:27.160
our food distribution operations.
00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:29.300
And so the microgrid proceeding,
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:34.210
proposal for the 200 million
incentive is a good start.
00:46:34.210 --> 00:46:35.980
I will... And communities
should be able
00:46:35.980 --> 00:46:38.580
to define those critical facilities,
00:46:38.580 --> 00:46:41.153
not the IO user PG&E.
00:46:41.153 --> 00:46:43.330
And we need to sustain those systems
00:46:43.330 --> 00:46:46.060
through a new microgrid tariff
00:46:46.060 --> 00:46:48.460
for environmental justice communities.
00:46:48.460 --> 00:46:53.150
The third part is we
please don't let PG&E
00:46:53.150 --> 00:46:56.770
raise the rates on us
for their fire negligence.
00:46:56.770 --> 00:46:59.380
PG&E should pay for their own mistakes
00:46:59.380 --> 00:47:02.690
and not customers that
are harmed by them.
00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:05.230
During this pandemic we
should actually freeze rates
00:47:05.230 --> 00:47:09.590
help vulnerable communities
cancel utility debt.
00:47:09.590 --> 00:47:13.430
And those are three
Christmas wishes for you today.
00:47:13.430 --> 00:47:14.263
Thank you.
00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:17.660
Thank you very much.
00:47:17.660 --> 00:47:19.693
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:47:21.850 --> 00:47:23.210
And I see
no additional callers
00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:25.010
on the public comment television line,
00:47:25.010 --> 00:47:26.670
but again as a
reminder, if you would like
00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:30.170
to make a comment, please
press star one, unmute your phone
00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:33.223
and clearly record your name
and organization When prompted.
00:47:39.710 --> 00:47:41.592
Okay, operator thank you.
00:47:41.592 --> 00:47:44.610
Since there's no one else coming online
00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:47.920
the public comment period is now closed.
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:49.850
Thank you all for those who called in.
00:47:49.850 --> 00:47:51.400
We appreciate hearing from you.
00:47:52.670 --> 00:47:56.430
Before I move on to the agenda,
00:47:56.430 --> 00:48:01.090
held and withdrawn agenda item,
00:48:01.090 --> 00:48:05.930
I would like to make a motion
to hold on an item myself.
00:48:05.930 --> 00:48:08.660
I'd like to make a
motion to hold item 42
00:48:09.730 --> 00:48:12.880
to the January 14th Commission meeting.
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.290
I would like additional time to
consider changes introduced
00:48:17.290 --> 00:48:18.903
in the most recent revisions.
00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.070
Do I have a second to my motion?
00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:22.903
Second.
00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:29.260
Thank you, it's been moved
and seconded to move item 42
00:48:29.470 --> 00:48:33.290
to the January 14th, 2021 agenda.
00:48:33.290 --> 00:48:35.490
Will the agenda clerk,
please call the roll?
00:48:37.930 --> 00:48:39.438
Commissioner Shiroma.
00:48:39.438 --> 00:48:40.271
Aye.
00:48:41.846 --> 00:48:43.861
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
00:48:43.861 --> 00:48:45.149
Aye.
00:48:45.149 --> 00:48:46.889
Rechtschaffen.
00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:47.722
Yes.
00:48:48.661 --> 00:48:50.483
Rechtschaffen.
00:48:50.483 --> 00:48:51.849
Yes.
00:48:51.849 --> 00:48:53.732
President Batjer.
00:48:53.732 --> 00:48:56.756
Yes, thank you, the
vote is unanimous.
00:48:56.756 --> 00:48:59.540
I believe that Commissioner
Rechtschaffen also have a change
00:48:59.540 --> 00:49:01.510
that he would like to make?
00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:02.580
Thank you, President Batjer.
00:49:02.580 --> 00:49:06.303
I would like to move
item seven to our January.
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:12.170
Second.
00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:17.050
A motion has been
made to move item seven
00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:20.363
number seven to January
14th Commission meeting.
00:49:21.997 --> 00:49:24.623
Move, a motion has
been made and seconded.
00:49:25.540 --> 00:49:28.440
Will the agenda clerk,
please call the roll for this item.
00:49:29.600 --> 00:49:31.330
Commissioner Shiroma.
00:49:31.330 --> 00:49:32.921
Aye.
00:49:32.921 --> 00:49:34.782
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
00:49:34.782 --> 00:49:35.861
Aye.
00:49:35.861 --> 00:49:38.124
Commissioner Randolph.
00:49:38.124 --> 00:49:39.593
Yes.
00:49:39.593 --> 00:49:41.453
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
00:49:41.453 --> 00:49:42.550
Yes.
00:49:42.550 --> 00:49:44.040
President Batjer.
00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:46.810
Yes, thank you,
the vote is unanimous
00:49:46.810 --> 00:49:50.241
to move item number
seven to January 14th,
00:49:50.241 --> 00:49:51.633
agenda Of the Commission.
00:49:52.530 --> 00:49:55.743
Okay, these are the following
changes to today's agenda.
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.030
Item two will be held
00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:02.930
to the January 14th,
2021 Commission meeting.
00:50:02.930 --> 00:50:06.350
Item three will be taken up
with our regular agenda today.
00:50:06.350 --> 00:50:09.840
Item four will be taken up
with our regular agenda today.
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.840
Item 12, we be held until
the January 14th, 2021
00:50:15.080 --> 00:50:16.530
Commission meeting.
00:50:16.530 --> 00:50:18.550
Item 24 will be held
00:50:18.550 --> 00:50:22.934
to the January 14, 2021
Commission meeting.
00:50:22.934 --> 00:50:24.584
Item 25 will be held
00:50:24.584 --> 00:50:28.130
to the January 14th,
2021 Commission meeting.
00:50:28.130 --> 00:50:31.816
Item 29 will be held
to the January 14th,
00:50:31.816 --> 00:50:34.300
2021 Commission meeting.
00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:36.900
Item 37, will also be held
00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:41.510
until the January 14th,
2021 Commission meeting.
00:50:41.510 --> 00:50:44.060
Item 50 will be taken up
00:50:44.060 --> 00:50:48.963
with a Consent Agenda today
and item 51 has been withdrawn.
00:50:51.640 --> 00:50:52.473
Okay.
00:50:57.420 --> 00:51:00.323
So those are the following
changes to today's agenda.
00:51:01.560 --> 00:51:03.360
Before we move on...
00:51:05.248 --> 00:51:08.580
So before we move on
to the consent items today,
00:51:08.580 --> 00:51:11.763
on our agenda, we will take up items 65,
00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:15.800
which I mentioned
earlier is the discussion
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.740
of the 2021 rate implementation
Edward Randolph,
00:51:19.740 --> 00:51:21.470
the Deputy Executive Director
00:51:21.470 --> 00:51:23.380
for Energy and Climate Policy
00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:25.240
will make today's presentation.
00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:26.440
Ed, are you on the line?
00:51:27.500 --> 00:51:29.320
I am here President Batjer.
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.530
Thank you, please go ahead.
00:51:31.530 --> 00:51:34.990
Okay, and Robert, I
believe there's slides for this
00:51:34.990 --> 00:51:36.940
so you're gonna move through the slides
00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:40.913
and let me turn on my video.
00:51:43.930 --> 00:51:46.430
Good morning Commissioners,
I am Edward Randolph.
00:51:46.430 --> 00:51:48.570
I am the Deputy Executive Director
00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:50.170
for Energy and Climate Policy
00:51:50.170 --> 00:51:53.790
at the Public Utilities Commission.
00:51:53.790 --> 00:51:55.280
I also have on the line with me
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.070
to help with questions, Dorothy Duda,
00:51:57.070 --> 00:52:00.150
who is a program manager in charge
00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.773
of our cost and rates teams.
00:52:02.890 --> 00:52:05.790
Today, I'm gonna do
a presentation as part
00:52:05.790 --> 00:52:07.680
of management reports.
00:52:07.680 --> 00:52:10.300
Looking at a number of advice letters
00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:13.020
that the energy division
is currently processing
00:52:14.030 --> 00:52:17.220
that will impact rates in 2021.
00:52:17.220 --> 00:52:20.130
For a little bit of a procedural setup,
00:52:20.130 --> 00:52:22.790
these advice letters are
advice letters that come in
00:52:22.790 --> 00:52:25.320
from all of the utilities in California
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.360
at the end of every year
to make the final step
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.033
in implementing any rate increases.
00:52:33.136 --> 00:52:36.560
(indistinct) that occurred is the result
00:52:36.560 --> 00:52:38.480
of other decisions that the Commission
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.380
has made throughout the year.
00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:41.220
Example of other decisions
00:52:41.220 --> 00:52:45.120
that the Commission
may have made (indistinct)
00:52:46.690 --> 00:52:49.230
The approval of general rate case plans,
00:52:49.230 --> 00:52:52.400
approval of wildfire mitigation plans
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:53.970
that would involve cost recovery
00:52:53.970 --> 00:52:58.970
in the approval of specific
programs out there.
00:52:59.430 --> 00:53:01.100
So after the microgrid primer
00:53:01.100 --> 00:53:04.560
other clean energy
program where the utilities
00:53:04.560 --> 00:53:06.710
were authorized to start collecting
00:53:06.710 --> 00:53:08.040
or tracking costs,
00:53:08.040 --> 00:53:11.000
here we would now allow
them once those costs
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.840
are deemed reasonable
to collect them and rates.
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.680
So the issues we're talking
00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:17.150
about and going through today,
00:53:17.150 --> 00:53:22.150
are the information
presentation, advise letters
00:53:22.970 --> 00:53:24.780
that are ministerial.
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:29.780
It is allowing the utilities
to collect any rates
00:53:30.660 --> 00:53:34.970
on costs that were already
approved and other decisions.
00:53:34.970 --> 00:53:37.780
Robert, if you could you
go to the next slide, please.
00:53:37.780 --> 00:53:40.203
And I'll start with
Pacific gas and electric.
00:53:45.042 --> 00:53:49.490
And as we start one, a huge
caveat I need to make with all
00:53:49.490 --> 00:53:53.310
of these slides is with
these advice letters
00:53:53.310 --> 00:53:56.920
for PG&E it's called an
Annual True-Up Advice Letter.
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.670
They're filed in November
00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:04.350
for rates that would go
into effect in January.
00:54:04.350 --> 00:54:09.350
However, many parts of these
rate changes are impacted
00:54:09.540 --> 00:54:13.950
by decisions that are
typically made in December.
00:54:13.950 --> 00:54:18.720
So there are a number of
items that are on agenda today.
00:54:18.720 --> 00:54:19.720
Some of which had been held
00:54:19.720 --> 00:54:24.033
over to the next month
that impact these,
00:54:25.952 --> 00:54:29.740
the final outcomes
of these advice letters.
00:54:29.740 --> 00:54:32.150
So some of the numbers
we'll go through here
00:54:32.150 --> 00:54:34.970
we'll actually change
before we get to January.
00:54:34.970 --> 00:54:38.140
So some of this should
serve as a illustrative example
00:54:38.140 --> 00:54:39.560
of where we'll wind up and I'll talk
00:54:39.560 --> 00:54:44.560
about certain changes that
we anticipate are occurring.
00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:46.350
You know, first step with PG&E
00:54:46.350 --> 00:54:47.850
and in a second, we'll move
00:54:47.850 --> 00:54:51.630
to the other slide that
shows more specific pricing
00:54:51.630 --> 00:54:56.630
but for PG&E a large driver
of their annual like true-up
00:54:58.540 --> 00:55:01.300
going forward into 2021.
00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:02.650
With the general rate case
00:55:02.650 --> 00:55:05.030
that the Commission approved last month.
00:55:05.030 --> 00:55:08.020
And it's Commissioner very well recall
00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:11.150
in that general rate case
00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:14.430
there is a decision made to not allow
00:55:14.430 --> 00:55:17.690
the rate increases that
were authorizing that decision
00:55:17.690 --> 00:55:21.170
for 2021 to go into effect til March
00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:25.740
to allow for a few months
of delay in those increases
00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:30.190
given the ongoing
shelter at home impacts
00:55:30.190 --> 00:55:32.663
and the impacts on high winter bills.
00:55:34.448 --> 00:55:39.280
That change in the
timing of when the GRC
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:43.660
would go into rates
changes the calculations
00:55:43.660 --> 00:55:47.020
around the annual electric true-up.
00:55:47.020 --> 00:55:48.190
But then as part of that,
00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:53.190
this week PG&E filed a
rate smoothing proposal
00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:57.633
as addendum to the
electric true-up advice letter.
00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:01.510
What this rate smoothing proposal
00:56:01.510 --> 00:56:05.010
from PG&E responds to is the fact that
00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:08.590
with the changes in the GRC,
00:56:08.590 --> 00:56:10.280
the reality was going to be
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.020
if there was other changes were made
00:56:12.020 --> 00:56:17.000
that there would be a
rate decrease in January,
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.810
but then a large rate increase in March.
00:56:20.810 --> 00:56:22.730
And then what PG&E is proposing
00:56:22.730 --> 00:56:26.010
at this point in time
is to smooth that out,
00:56:26.010 --> 00:56:27.550
so that there, you know,
00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:29.740
it isn't a initial rate decrease
00:56:29.740 --> 00:56:33.290
followed two months later
by a large rate increase.
00:56:33.290 --> 00:56:35.520
And instead proposing, you know
00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:39.360
smaller rate increase in January,
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.340
which will then reduce the rate increase
00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:44.053
in January, in March.
00:56:44.950 --> 00:56:46.580
And then before we
move on to the next slide
00:56:46.580 --> 00:56:47.740
just because it's up here,
00:56:47.740 --> 00:56:52.180
the biggest drivers in
the March rate change
00:56:52.180 --> 00:56:56.460
out there is the implementation
of the general rate case.
00:56:56.460 --> 00:56:57.800
Robert can go back to the other slide
00:56:57.800 --> 00:56:58.743
for just a second.
00:57:00.550 --> 00:57:04.063
Is the general rate case decisions,
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.010
nuclear Commissioning surcharges,
00:57:08.010 --> 00:57:10.780
and then there are several
decreases that were coming
00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:14.900
from the GRC involving 2017 tax cuts
00:57:15.950 --> 00:57:19.600
cost of capital decreases and PG&E
00:57:19.600 --> 00:57:23.160
unlike the other utilities,
a slight decrease involved
00:57:23.160 --> 00:57:25.393
in their transmission costs out there.
00:57:26.560 --> 00:57:30.872
And then, I think I've
covered everything else.
00:57:30.872 --> 00:57:33.103
And then we can move
to the next slide Robert.
00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:39.760
Thank you, so this
slide here we won't dwell
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.310
on all the numbers in here
00:57:41.310 --> 00:57:43.940
but actually it shows the difference
00:57:43.940 --> 00:57:46.320
between the original electric true-up
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:50.537
that was proposed by PG&E in November
00:57:52.900 --> 00:57:56.700
versus what they just
filed several days ago here.
00:57:56.700 --> 00:57:59.210
So the original true-up would
have resulted in, you know,
00:57:59.210 --> 00:58:02.580
13 to 14 or almost 15% rate increases
00:58:02.580 --> 00:58:06.430
for CARE and non-CARE customers.
00:58:06.430 --> 00:58:09.670
And the new proposal
combined with the move
00:58:09.670 --> 00:58:14.297
to move the general rate
case plan increases to March.
00:58:18.890 --> 00:58:20.640
Their proposal, and again,
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:21.640
I want to emphasize this point,
00:58:21.640 --> 00:58:25.430
That their proposal we
have not adopted this yet,
00:58:25.430 --> 00:58:30.430
it would result in 5.5%
increase for care customer...
00:58:31.140 --> 00:58:35.960
For non-care and almost a
7% increase for care customers
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:40.793
in January followed by
smaller increases in March.
00:58:42.712 --> 00:58:44.263
Next slide, please, Robert.
00:58:50.460 --> 00:58:52.410
And then, also for PG&E,
00:58:52.410 --> 00:58:54.710
and we'll go through this
for the other utilities as well.
00:58:54.710 --> 00:58:58.820
Other changes that happen
in January and December
00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:02.280
that impact January rates
or changes in every year
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.511
the calculations for the PCIA,
00:59:05.511 --> 00:59:10.511
the power charge and
different adjustments.
00:59:11.210 --> 00:59:13.450
One of my least favorite acronyms,
00:59:13.450 --> 00:59:17.360
which is a charge that shows up
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.360
on rate payer bills that
tracks potential cost shifting
00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:24.680
between bundle customers and customers
00:59:24.680 --> 00:59:29.680
who've moved to CCA customers
to meet statutory requirements
00:59:31.100 --> 00:59:34.930
that the creation of
the CCA does not result
00:59:34.930 --> 00:59:38.113
in cost increases for
the bundled customers.
00:59:40.070 --> 00:59:41.840
And a few things to note
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.043
as we go through this
slide and the others,
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:49.313
a big issue of debate
around the PCIA charges.
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.843
The last few weeks has been how
00:59:53.902 --> 00:59:58.902
to amortize some large under collections
01:00:00.490 --> 01:00:04.370
from prior years where the utilities
01:00:04.370 --> 01:00:07.560
were not collecting the full amount
01:00:07.560 --> 01:00:11.270
of what the charge would
otherwise be going forward.
01:00:11.270 --> 01:00:12.900
And there were some proposals
01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:17.130
for 12 month amortization
and for 36 month amortization.
01:00:17.130 --> 01:00:21.200
All of the slides actually
reflect the 36 month
01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:23.240
amortization proposals
01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:27.060
which reflects where the final decisions
01:00:27.060 --> 01:00:30.030
or proposed decisions
are landing so far.
01:00:30.030 --> 01:00:31.540
I mean, another note why I won't go
01:00:31.540 --> 01:00:33.160
through each column in here,
01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:35.070
but can be a little confusing at times
01:00:35.070 --> 01:00:37.780
to talk about PCIA rate impacts
01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:41.493
on the CCA and the
Direct Access Customers.
01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:44.530
It is hard to frame them
01:00:44.530 --> 01:00:49.530
as an average impact
because your PCIA charge
01:00:49.740 --> 01:00:54.690
depends upon what
year you left the service
01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:56.310
of the utility and moved over
01:00:56.310 --> 01:00:58.973
to having your generation
provided by the CCA.
01:01:00.130 --> 01:01:01.680
So this shows that each one
01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:03.450
of what's referred
to as the vintage year
01:01:03.450 --> 01:01:08.450
that is the year customers
move from bundled utility service
01:01:08.870 --> 01:01:11.920
to CCA service happens.
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.390
And averaging it out would be...
01:01:15.620 --> 01:01:17.360
Would lead to misleading numbers
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.030
no matter how you've done it.
01:01:19.030 --> 01:01:20.810
So, so far, we've always found
01:01:20.810 --> 01:01:22.210
that the best way to present this is
01:01:22.210 --> 01:01:26.690
to point out the vintage
year increases out there.
01:01:26.690 --> 01:01:29.110
So these would be largely bill impact.
01:01:29.110 --> 01:01:32.070
As you see these on CCA customers,
01:01:32.070 --> 01:01:35.573
as we implement the
PCI rate change proposals.
01:01:37.580 --> 01:01:38.633
Next slide, please.
01:01:40.990 --> 01:01:43.043
And then with Southern
California Edison,
01:01:45.022 --> 01:01:49.770
there is no proposed
rate change for November.
01:01:49.770 --> 01:01:52.420
However, for February,
01:01:52.420 --> 01:01:57.040
there would be a rate increases proposed
01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:58.640
in their advice letters.
01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:03.640
Currently it would be
roughly a 10% increase in bills
01:02:05.240 --> 01:02:10.240
for both care and non-care
customers (indistinct)
01:02:10.850 --> 01:02:14.530
Large drivers on what this...
01:02:16.230 --> 01:02:19.410
What's driving these
increases, the biggest category
01:02:19.410 --> 01:02:21.220
of drivers is what's in the...
01:02:21.220 --> 01:02:22.830
What's called the ERRA Account,
01:02:22.830 --> 01:02:25.000
the Energy Resource Recovery Account.
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.550
That's actually pending approval
01:02:26.550 --> 01:02:31.550
of an item today that
covers the utilities generation
01:02:32.420 --> 01:02:33.480
and commodity costs.
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:34.840
These are largely costs
01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:39.510
for providing electricity that are some
01:02:39.510 --> 01:02:41.740
of which are out of
the utilities control,
01:02:41.740 --> 01:02:44.590
do that Pass throughs for fuel costs?
01:02:44.590 --> 01:02:48.150
And also will relate
to under collections
01:02:48.150 --> 01:02:53.150
or over collections of
costs in the prior year.
01:02:55.420 --> 01:03:00.090
There are also a number
of balancing accounts
01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:01.910
in a balancing account is again,
01:03:01.910 --> 01:03:04.540
tracking expenses from prior years
01:03:04.540 --> 01:03:06.060
that have already been authorized
01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:09.693
by the Commission versus collections.
01:03:11.210 --> 01:03:15.190
And another big driver here is
01:03:16.364 --> 01:03:17.870
for approved transmission rates,
01:03:17.870 --> 01:03:22.130
which are rates that are
actually out of PUC control
01:03:22.130 --> 01:03:24.300
and show is a pass-through.
01:03:24.300 --> 01:03:28.690
It's worth noting that one driver
01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:31.170
of some of the rate
increases here has just been
01:03:31.170 --> 01:03:35.620
the increase in liability
insurance wildfire costs
01:03:35.620 --> 01:03:37.423
for Southern California Edison.
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:39.660
Next slide please, Robert.
01:03:44.370 --> 01:03:45.850
And San Diego gas and electric.
01:03:45.850 --> 01:03:50.730
I'm not gonna spend a lot
of time on this slide either.
01:03:50.730 --> 01:03:53.020
I think these numbers will,
01:03:53.020 --> 01:03:58.020
it could potentially
change a fair amount of--
01:03:58.096 --> 01:04:00.730
I think you need to go
back one slide (indistinct)
01:04:00.730 --> 01:04:01.940
Robert next slide...
01:04:01.940 --> 01:04:05.410
Back one slide, please Robert,
thank you, Commissioner.
01:04:05.410 --> 01:04:10.410
We'll change, fairly
significantly one way or another,
01:04:11.410 --> 01:04:15.290
depending on outcome
of a proposed decision
01:04:15.290 --> 01:04:17.840
that President Batjer just held.
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.350
But illustratively, you can see
01:04:20.350 --> 01:04:25.350
if the various decisions
and actually what's confusing
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:26.840
about this chart,
01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:28.730
is the proposed decision is just held
01:04:28.730 --> 01:04:30.700
would not be reflected in this chart.
01:04:30.700 --> 01:04:32.720
This would reflect a version
01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:35.260
of that decision that was introduced
01:04:35.260 --> 01:04:38.450
but, revisions change that related
01:04:38.450 --> 01:04:42.657
to the the era account changes.
01:04:42.657 --> 01:04:44.050
But again, from a PG...
01:04:44.050 --> 01:04:46.190
From San Diego gas electric standpoint
01:04:46.190 --> 01:04:48.800
you can see relative
to the other utilities.
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.800
The overall rate impacts
for January are much smaller
01:04:56.220 --> 01:04:59.670
than the other utilities that changes
01:04:59.670 --> 01:05:03.370
in the ERRA forecast are...
01:05:03.370 --> 01:05:06.810
Would you know, significantly
change it one way or another.
01:05:06.810 --> 01:05:10.433
Since the era forecast
moved quite a bit.
01:05:12.828 --> 01:05:14.178
And the next slide, Robert.
01:05:17.690 --> 01:05:20.130
And then finally, I
wanna focus a little bit
01:05:20.130 --> 01:05:23.480
on the small
multi-jurisdictional utilities.
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:28.480
Those, you know, we
oftentimes focus on the, you know,
01:05:28.580 --> 01:05:32.070
the big four utilities in California
01:05:32.070 --> 01:05:33.710
from the electric utilities,
01:05:33.710 --> 01:05:36.109
the big three San
Diego gas and electric,
01:05:36.109 --> 01:05:38.250
Southern California Edison and PG&E.
01:05:38.250 --> 01:05:43.250
But the PUC also regulates
several smaller utilities
01:05:45.870 --> 01:05:48.170
Bear Valley, Liberty utility
01:05:48.170 --> 01:05:51.470
which serves the Lake
Tahoe area and Pacific Corp
01:05:51.470 --> 01:05:56.220
which serves some very rural
areas in Northern California.
01:05:56.220 --> 01:06:00.360
They too have similar
processes of truing-up their rates
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.110
or adjusting their rates at
the beginning of each year.
01:06:04.380 --> 01:06:06.780
And so we're detailing
those changes there
01:06:06.780 --> 01:06:11.070
to give the comparison impact.
01:06:11.070 --> 01:06:14.723
I do wanna put a big red flag
around the Liberty numbers.
01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:21.200
We continue to have issues and concerns
01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:23.450
with the quality and
the depth of information
01:06:23.450 --> 01:06:27.660
on some of the filings
of Liberty and now,
01:06:27.660 --> 01:06:30.210
and some updated
filings are not reflected
01:06:30.210 --> 01:06:33.940
in these slides would
be showing significantly
01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:38.940
higher increases than
what's proposed here.
01:06:38.957 --> 01:06:41.760
And so, Energy Division staff needs
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.500
to work through those
numbers, but for the others,
01:06:45.500 --> 01:06:50.283
you can again see where
they are on the trends there.
01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:52.930
And then another thing to note
01:06:52.930 --> 01:06:55.340
which is a driver for
Bear Valley one way
01:06:55.340 --> 01:07:00.340
or another, and I did skip
over for PG&E that is driving.
01:07:00.710 --> 01:07:04.680
Some of these increases is amortization
01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:12.483
of prior year collections
that are due to delays
01:07:15.050 --> 01:07:20.050
or time it takes to get
rate in GRC process.
01:07:20.240 --> 01:07:22.270
So some of these increases are again
01:07:22.270 --> 01:07:27.270
for cost collection that
was authorized in prior years
01:07:27.640 --> 01:07:31.947
but hadn't been allowed to
be collected in rates until now.
01:07:34.420 --> 01:07:35.370
Next slide, Robert
01:07:35.370 --> 01:07:38.140
I think that's the
final slide that I have.
01:07:38.140 --> 01:07:40.303
Yeah, that's it on slides.
01:07:41.170 --> 01:07:42.670
The other thing I would like to note
01:07:42.670 --> 01:07:47.670
I don't have slides on, but as
we do acknowledge that some
01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:54.320
of these rate increases are high,
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:59.320
despite a lot of efforts from
the Commissioners stakeholders
01:08:02.330 --> 01:08:06.523
to minimize the increases
and find savings where we can,
01:08:07.560 --> 01:08:09.620
with the impacts of COVID,
01:08:09.620 --> 01:08:11.020
with the downturn in the economy,
01:08:11.020 --> 01:08:12.810
there is clearly an understanding
01:08:13.900 --> 01:08:16.880
of these impacts and
ways to mitigate it.
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:19.760
So, and I can detail
some of those if you'd like
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.647
but you know, there's
a litany of efforts.
01:08:22.647 --> 01:08:24.100
The Commission has taken
01:08:24.100 --> 01:08:29.030
over the last nine months
to minimize the impacts
01:08:29.030 --> 01:08:33.020
of bill increases over
this timeframe, you know,
01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:35.573
including moratorium on disconnections,
01:08:36.887 --> 01:08:41.450
development of new amortization
efforts to help people pay
01:08:41.450 --> 01:08:43.380
off their bills,
01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:47.320
reduction in charges for
customers that use high amounts
01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:52.243
of electricity and
massive outreach efforts
01:08:55.700 --> 01:08:59.420
to get more customers enrolled
in the low income programs
01:08:59.420 --> 01:09:01.180
to reduce their rates.
01:09:01.180 --> 01:09:02.880
With that, any available question?
01:09:07.500 --> 01:09:09.110
And I think you said, Ed,
01:09:09.110 --> 01:09:12.210
also that Dorothy is
also on the line with you
01:09:12.210 --> 01:09:14.883
to also field any questions
that people may have.
01:09:15.980 --> 01:09:16.880
That is correct.
01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:19.973
Do any of the
Commissioners have any--
01:09:19.973 --> 01:09:22.278
Robert, move to
the next slide, please,
01:09:22.278 --> 01:09:26.723
(indistinct) slide to
have, okay, thank you.
01:09:28.821 --> 01:09:31.530
Do any of the Commissioners
have any questions
01:09:31.530 --> 01:09:33.663
of Ed this time?
01:09:36.224 --> 01:09:39.860
Okay, seeing none,
Ed, thank you very much
01:09:39.860 --> 01:09:42.660
for your presentation,
we appreciate it greatly.
01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:45.523
And thank you, Dorothy,
also being available.
01:09:48.550 --> 01:09:50.250
Thank you, no problem.
01:09:52.280 --> 01:09:55.883
All right, with the
presentation completed,
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.560
we will now take up the consent items.
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:02.053
I will entertain a motion.
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.073
So moved.
So moved.
01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:07.530
Second.
01:10:07.530 --> 01:10:11.033
Is then moved and seconded
to take up the consent items.
01:10:12.150 --> 01:10:14.300
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll.
01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:17.210
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:10:17.210 --> 01:10:18.043
Aye.
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:20.970
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:10:20.970 --> 01:10:21.803
Aye.
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:23.933
Commissioner Randolph.
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:25.633
Yes.
01:10:26.790 --> 01:10:28.530
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:10:28.530 --> 01:10:29.990
Yes.
01:10:29.990 --> 01:10:31.510
President Batjer.
01:10:31.510 --> 01:10:36.510
Yes, the Consent Agenda
has voted out unanimously.
01:10:36.610 --> 01:10:38.109
I believe that Commissioner
Rechtschaffen,
01:10:38.109 --> 01:10:39.530
you would like to make remarks
01:10:39.530 --> 01:10:44.530
on items eight, 15, 19 and 23.
01:10:44.660 --> 01:10:45.523
Is that correct?
01:10:47.080 --> 01:10:49.704
Yes, President
Batjer, thank you.
01:10:49.704 --> 01:10:52.890
Thank you.
The first three items,
01:10:52.890 --> 01:10:56.830
concern transportation
electrification decisions
01:10:56.830 --> 01:10:58.023
we just approved.
01:10:59.180 --> 01:11:00.670
We've been very busy this year
01:11:00.670 --> 01:11:02.714
on transportation electrification.
01:11:02.714 --> 01:11:05.010
And this is the culmination
of some of those efforts.
01:11:05.010 --> 01:11:07.430
Each of these decisions
take important steps
01:11:07.430 --> 01:11:10.993
to advance our transportation
electrification goals.
01:11:10.993 --> 01:11:13.370
I just wanna summarize
those very briefly,
01:11:13.370 --> 01:11:17.070
item eight, in item eight,
we approved the new rate
01:11:17.070 --> 01:11:21.490
for San Diego gas and electric
commercial EV customers
01:11:21.490 --> 01:11:25.720
in order to incentivize
electric vehicle adoption.
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.720
We know that getting
rates correct is one
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.550
of the critical pieces of the puzzle.
01:11:31.550 --> 01:11:33.640
You know, electrifying
our transportation system
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.140
one that we have the key responsibility
01:11:37.140 --> 01:11:40.740
for this new rate will
save money compared
01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:42.060
to existing rates.
01:11:42.060 --> 01:11:46.630
Most specifically it
eliminates demand charges
01:11:46.630 --> 01:11:51.630
and instead implements for
customers, a subscription model
01:11:51.810 --> 01:11:54.080
which is very similar
to the model we all see
01:11:54.080 --> 01:11:57.260
on our cell phone bills
where customers buy a block
01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:01.010
of capacity that should be sufficient
01:12:01.010 --> 01:12:02.930
to meet their highest demand.
01:12:02.930 --> 01:12:05.700
And then they're encouraged
to manage the charging
01:12:05.700 --> 01:12:09.020
to not go over that subscription rate.
01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:12.150
So we now have in place new,
01:12:12.150 --> 01:12:15.990
more easy friendly
commercial rates for all three
01:12:15.990 --> 01:12:17.670
of our investor on utilities.
01:12:17.670 --> 01:12:18.503
That's a big deal,
01:12:18.503 --> 01:12:20.800
something the legislature
wanted us to do.
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.530
I should note this was
a challenging decision
01:12:23.530 --> 01:12:27.020
because it required
us to balance the need
01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:29.500
to provide savings in order
01:12:29.500 --> 01:12:32.490
to promote electric vehicle adoption,
01:12:32.490 --> 01:12:33.610
at the same time keeping
01:12:33.610 --> 01:12:35.690
in mind the concerns
that Director Randolph,
01:12:35.690 --> 01:12:38.720
President Batjer and others
have so clearly articulated
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.610
that we do not wanna be
imposing any extra costs
01:12:41.610 --> 01:12:44.260
on other rate payers during COVID
01:12:44.260 --> 01:12:46.490
and the economic recession.
01:12:46.490 --> 01:12:49.320
For this decision I wanna
express my deep thanks
01:12:49.320 --> 01:12:53.640
to ALJ Stephanie Long for
doing such an excellent job
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.550
of working through many
very skeptical issues.
01:12:56.550 --> 01:12:58.713
Also Massoud (indistinct), Paul Phillips
01:12:59.752 --> 01:13:02.960
and the race team Audrey
Newman and Carrie Sisto
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.910
now LJ formerly Energy Division on
01:13:04.910 --> 01:13:07.330
that transportation electrification team
01:13:07.330 --> 01:13:10.090
and my advisors Simi George.
01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:13.490
Item 15 the second decision concerns,
01:13:13.490 --> 01:13:14.870
the low carbon fuel standard.
01:13:14.870 --> 01:13:18.280
Of course, this is a
regulation that's adopted
01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:19.920
by the air resources board
01:13:22.386 --> 01:13:24.110
under the LCFS,
01:13:24.110 --> 01:13:27.540
electric utilities earned
substantial revenues
01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:30.180
from the sale of credits
01:13:30.180 --> 01:13:33.390
because they provide
clean transportation fuel
01:13:33.390 --> 01:13:36.580
for electric vehicles, which
in this case is electricity.
01:13:36.580 --> 01:13:40.030
We share implementation
authority with curb
01:13:40.030 --> 01:13:43.040
over how the proceeds
of the revenues that the...
01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:45.840
That accrue to the utilities are spent.
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:49.580
So in prior decisions,
we've allocated two-thirds
01:13:49.580 --> 01:13:54.010
of the funds for a point of
sale, EV rebate program.
01:13:54.010 --> 01:13:57.650
That's known as the Clean
Fuel Rewards program.
01:13:57.650 --> 01:14:00.070
In this decision the
funds in question are how
01:14:00.070 --> 01:14:02.700
to spend the remaining one third
01:14:02.700 --> 01:14:07.390
of the funds, which could be
up to $100,000,000 annually.
01:14:07.390 --> 01:14:10.980
We don't know exactly, but
it could be quite substantial.
01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:13.880
What we've done here is
we've authorized utilities
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.720
to spend these funds on a variety
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:21.660
of EV projects with a very
strong focused on equity.
01:14:21.660 --> 01:14:25.040
And in particular, we direct that
01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:30.040
by 2024 utilities dedicated
at least 75% of their funds
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.350
for projects that serve
underserved communities
01:14:34.350 --> 01:14:37.630
including electrification
and battery swap programs
01:14:37.630 --> 01:14:40.220
for school, a transit buses,
01:14:40.220 --> 01:14:44.850
Public EV Charging
Infrastructure, additional rebates
01:14:44.850 --> 01:14:49.130
and incentives for low-income
individuals, and more.
01:14:49.130 --> 01:14:51.600
We did revise the decision in response
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.570
to party comments to ramp up
the requirement more gradually.
01:14:55.570 --> 01:14:57.100
So the decision actually starts
01:14:57.100 --> 01:15:00.480
with the directive to have 35% focused
01:15:00.480 --> 01:15:03.557
on underserved communities in 2021.
01:15:03.557 --> 01:15:08.470
And this increases by
10% a year, to 75% in 2024.
01:15:09.457 --> 01:15:12.010
And this actually better
aligns with the structure
01:15:12.010 --> 01:15:15.403
of the overall requirement
in curbs regulation.
01:15:16.910 --> 01:15:20.070
The remaining funds
that will not be spent
01:15:20.070 --> 01:15:22.360
on underserved communities,
01:15:22.360 --> 01:15:26.380
we direct most of those to
be spent on resiliency projects,
01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:28.270
which of course is
another important priority
01:15:28.270 --> 01:15:29.490
for the Commission.
01:15:29.490 --> 01:15:33.070
These could be projects
that insure EV charging
01:15:33.070 --> 01:15:36.050
will be available during power outages,
01:15:36.050 --> 01:15:37.500
the installation of charges
01:15:37.500 --> 01:15:41.660
in areas prone to
wildfire safety problems
01:15:41.660 --> 01:15:45.210
or that allow the EV
owners to use their batteries
01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:47.890
car batteries to power
their homes and businesses
01:15:47.890 --> 01:15:49.583
when power is out.
01:15:50.660 --> 01:15:52.970
I want to take an incredibly
hard working group
01:15:52.970 --> 01:15:55.770
that put this complicated
decision together.
01:15:55.770 --> 01:15:58.090
That includes Audrey
Newman, Sarah Cayman
01:15:58.090 --> 01:16:00.510
and Pete Scott of the Energy Vision.
01:16:00.510 --> 01:16:03.000
Judge Patrick Doherty our colleagues
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:05.240
at the Air Resources
who were very constructive
01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:08.590
and helpful in working through
these issues, Rajinder Sahota
01:16:08.590 --> 01:16:12.780
and Richard Corey, and
my advisor, Julia Schmidt.
01:16:12.780 --> 01:16:16.630
And then the third item is item 19
01:16:16.630 --> 01:16:20.360
with one of the comments
that Batjer talked about,
01:16:20.360 --> 01:16:24.474
it implements a legislative
mandating SB-seven,
01:16:24.474 --> 01:16:27.540
676 rather to develop strategies
01:16:27.540 --> 01:16:31.283
and metrics to advance
vehicle grid integration.
01:16:32.198 --> 01:16:33.470
A lot of vehicles grid integration
01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:36.200
has an order about it, but at bottom
01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:39.280
it's not that complicated.
01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:43.750
It refers to measures that
encourage EV charging behavior
01:16:43.750 --> 01:16:48.400
at the times, and the locations
that both minimize impact
01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:52.040
to the grid and allow
EV's to be grid assets
01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:55.740
and also allow for potential
revenue stream to the owners
01:16:55.740 --> 01:16:59.810
of EVs because of the ability
of the EV to be great assets.
01:16:59.810 --> 01:17:01.700
This decision adopts a variety
01:17:01.700 --> 01:17:04.630
of strategies many than recommended.
01:17:04.630 --> 01:17:05.660
Most of them in fact
01:17:05.660 --> 01:17:10.150
recommended by a very hard
working PGI working group.
01:17:10.150 --> 01:17:12.853
And this includes
pilots up to $35 billion,
01:17:13.860 --> 01:17:17.230
studies about decreasing
the cost of charging workshops
01:17:17.230 --> 01:17:20.060
on automated load
management and so forth.
01:17:20.060 --> 01:17:24.780
There is a requirement to
prioritize underserved communities
01:17:24.780 --> 01:17:28.650
like offering higher BGI
rebates in those communities.
01:17:28.650 --> 01:17:30.120
I want to thank that same
01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:33.780
a similar hardworking team
who put this decision together,
01:17:33.780 --> 01:17:36.530
Ed Pike and Sarah Kamins
in the energy division.
01:17:36.530 --> 01:17:39.120
Judge Patrick Doherty,
the most valuable player
01:17:39.120 --> 01:17:41.670
on electric vehicles for this meeting.
01:17:41.670 --> 01:17:44.520
And also my advisor Julia Schmidt again
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.590
and also a special
shout out to Gridworks
01:17:47.590 --> 01:17:48.940
which was our facilitator
01:17:48.940 --> 01:17:52.130
for that very working
VGI group that I mentioned
01:17:52.130 --> 01:17:54.060
that produced a comprehensive report
01:17:54.060 --> 01:17:57.770
with 90 recommendations
on actions to VGI.
01:17:57.770 --> 01:18:00.950
It also had an executive summary
with fewer recommendations.
01:18:00.950 --> 01:18:02.570
So it was an overwhelming
01:18:02.570 --> 01:18:04.460
and the many hardworking stakeholders
01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:07.220
who participated in that group.
01:18:07.220 --> 01:18:08.550
So those are the three
01:18:08.550 --> 01:18:11.290
transportation
electrification decisions.
01:18:11.290 --> 01:18:14.823
I wanna briefly comment about item 20.
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:22.860
We can't hear you.
Cliff we can't--
01:18:22.860 --> 01:18:24.600
Cliff we can't hear you.
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:26.500
You're on mute Cliff.
01:18:26.500 --> 01:18:27.943
Hey, Cliff, you are on mute.
01:18:30.150 --> 01:18:32.373
Cliff, you're on mute.
01:18:37.590 --> 01:18:38.423
Cliff!
01:18:41.780 --> 01:18:44.563
I don't know how to get (indistinct)
01:18:46.870 --> 01:18:49.220
I wonder if the call
dropped for him again
01:18:49.220 --> 01:18:51.003
the audio portion is dropped.
01:18:53.620 --> 01:18:55.770
Don't know that there's--
01:18:55.770 --> 01:18:59.080
President Batjer,
I'm happy to rotate
01:18:59.080 --> 01:19:01.230
til when we get him back.
01:19:01.230 --> 01:19:05.525
Okay, thank you,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:19:05.525 --> 01:19:06.358
I don't know If there's
anything we can do--
01:19:06.358 --> 01:19:11.111
Really, he's very enthusiastically
speaking (indistinct)
01:19:11.111 --> 01:19:13.150
He's in a great speech.
01:19:13.150 --> 01:19:15.970
Maybe I can just call his...
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:22.720
Maybe somebody can text
him, or we can let him know
01:19:22.768 --> 01:19:24.665
I just did, but he didn't--
01:19:24.665 --> 01:19:29.330
Okay, he's so engaged
in his presentation
01:19:29.330 --> 01:19:31.080
so he's not gonna be looking at us.
01:19:33.490 --> 01:19:36.440
Okay, It looks like he's (indistinct)
01:19:36.440 --> 01:19:40.780
I believe you're gonna
speak to item nine
01:19:40.780 --> 01:19:43.750
and item 22 Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
01:19:43.750 --> 01:19:45.490
Oh, okay, yes.
01:19:45.490 --> 01:19:47.540
And I've added an additional
01:19:47.540 --> 01:19:51.580
item 35 and a couple of
more, but I will be brief.
01:19:51.580 --> 01:19:54.610
I thought this (Guzman laughs)
01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:59.420
I wanted to just really
reflect on something that you
01:19:59.420 --> 01:20:02.430
and the public were so
eloquent about this morning
01:20:02.430 --> 01:20:05.960
which is COVID crisis and
highlight for the public three
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.550
of the items that really
focus on our response
01:20:09.550 --> 01:20:13.400
to ensuring that our
vital utility stay connected
01:20:13.400 --> 01:20:15.800
as we heard from the public.
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.773
So eloquently this morning
again on the need to do so.
01:20:20.670 --> 01:20:24.420
And just wanted to share some
of the most recent numbers.
01:20:24.420 --> 01:20:27.960
I know yesterday we had over 55,000
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.280
new COVID cases in California.
01:20:31.280 --> 01:20:33.853
The day before that we had 32,000.
01:20:34.980 --> 01:20:39.940
Similarly on December 13th,
we had 85 COVID deaths.
01:20:39.940 --> 01:20:41.833
And yesterday we had almost 400.
01:20:43.850 --> 01:20:46.600
Some of the hospitals I
know in the San Joaquin Valley
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.020
are out of bed and they're now resorting
01:20:50.020 --> 01:20:52.470
to the surge capacity.
01:20:52.470 --> 01:20:55.530
We all know this is
serious and it is a crisis.
01:20:55.530 --> 01:20:59.090
And unfortunately it
potentially can get worse.
01:20:59.090 --> 01:21:01.920
And so getting to
these vital protections,
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.770
I'll start with the
disconnections resolution.
01:21:04.770 --> 01:21:05.963
Which is item nine.
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:10.200
This is a citation program to make sure
01:21:10.200 --> 01:21:13.070
that as we transitioned
from the moratorium
01:21:13.070 --> 01:21:15.250
when it is eventually lifted,
01:21:15.250 --> 01:21:18.120
we can guarantee that
the utilities are abiding
01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:21.920
by these critical measures
to prevent disconnection
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.640
throughout this year and in the future.
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:27.620
And just to remind ourselves
01:21:27.620 --> 01:21:30.980
the citations will focus
on some critical elements.
01:21:30.980 --> 01:21:35.710
One is if the utilities do
not meet the obligation
01:21:35.710 --> 01:21:37.880
of offering all the eligible services
01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:40.670
to customers serve, eligible programs
01:21:40.670 --> 01:21:43.430
such as ISA, CARE, FERA.
01:21:43.430 --> 01:21:47.000
If they failed to offer a
12 month payment plan,
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:48.310
if they disconnect someone
01:21:48.310 --> 01:21:50.890
who's received a (indistinct) clench,
01:21:50.890 --> 01:21:53.363
if they're not abiding by
the weather protection,
01:21:54.470 --> 01:21:58.750
if they require a deposit,
which we have eliminated,
01:21:58.750 --> 01:22:01.393
if they require reconnection fees,
01:22:02.540 --> 01:22:06.850
is they violate the
benefit of service process.
01:22:06.850 --> 01:22:07.683
And of course,
01:22:07.683 --> 01:22:11.380
if they do not fulfill their
notification requirements.
01:22:11.380 --> 01:22:13.960
I wanna thank the UB division
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:16.210
in particular and the energy division
01:22:16.210 --> 01:22:18.393
for all the work that
was put in into this.
01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:25.040
(indistinct) in particular
took a lead with me
01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:29.130
a helper in and with the
oversight of Jeanette Lowe.
01:22:29.130 --> 01:22:32.060
We had excellent assistance from legal
01:22:32.060 --> 01:22:35.700
Sarah Thomas, Christopher
Chou, and Candace Morey.
01:22:35.700 --> 01:22:38.700
And of course my BK
partner, Liane Randolph
01:22:38.700 --> 01:22:41.187
and her staff Anand Durvasula.
01:22:42.620 --> 01:22:44.820
I also wanna thank my staff just
01:22:44.820 --> 01:22:47.690
in song and my
previous chief (indistinct)
01:22:47.690 --> 01:22:50.870
who was very focused on making sure
01:22:50.870 --> 01:22:54.100
we had an enforcement
component to our rules.
01:22:54.100 --> 01:22:57.930
Similarly, as it was mentioned
by director Randolph,
01:22:57.930 --> 01:23:02.360
that item 22, the arrearage
management plan,
01:23:02.360 --> 01:23:04.560
these are the resolutions
that we approved
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:06.941
for the utilities as a reminder.
01:23:06.941 --> 01:23:08.020
These are the plants,
01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:10.900
that will be offered
starting in February
01:23:10.900 --> 01:23:13.000
to assist customers even prior
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.900
to the moratorium being
lifted on gas and electricity
01:23:16.900 --> 01:23:20.150
to give folks a pathway throughout this
01:23:20.150 --> 01:23:22.220
dealing with this year.
01:23:22.220 --> 01:23:25.890
This plan is a debt
forgiveness payment plan
01:23:25.890 --> 01:23:28.550
for low income
customers that are eligible
01:23:28.550 --> 01:23:32.773
for CARE and FERA that
are over $500 in arrears,
01:23:34.226 --> 01:23:36.320
and for 250 in arrears
01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:38.013
if they're gas only customers.
01:23:39.290 --> 01:23:42.520
The IU will establish
this payment plan to allow
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.530
for forgiveness of up to $8,000.
01:23:45.530 --> 01:23:49.780
And unfortunately we do
have customers in that situation.
01:23:49.780 --> 01:23:52.670
I wanna thank the
energy division in particular
01:23:52.670 --> 01:23:54.913
Ben Menzies, Paul Phillips,
01:23:54.913 --> 01:23:58.160
(indistinct) and Keith
Jane and Janell Sue
01:23:58.160 --> 01:24:00.200
who is now a public advocates,
01:24:00.200 --> 01:24:03.520
but was very instrumental
in getting the program going.
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:04.413
Again, legal divisions
are (indistinct) Thomas,
01:24:04.413 --> 01:24:09.413
(indistinct) Candice
Maury and (indistinct)
01:24:10.040 --> 01:24:13.020
And again, Justin and (indistinct)
01:24:13.020 --> 01:24:15.810
And finally, the other item
01:24:15.810 --> 01:24:19.900
on here has to deal with our
telecommunications service.
01:24:19.900 --> 01:24:24.720
And we know it is, as we
heard again this morning
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:28.140
another basic utility
that is so significant.
01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:30.730
We, this resolution provides
01:24:30.730 --> 01:24:34.410
for a 90 day moratorium
on landline wireless
01:24:34.410 --> 01:24:38.280
and facility-based voice
telecommunication providers
01:24:38.280 --> 01:24:40.803
for getting us through winter surge.
01:24:41.770 --> 01:24:44.870
And they will not be
able to disconnect folks
01:24:44.870 --> 01:24:47.400
for late payments or non-payments.
01:24:47.400 --> 01:24:50.070
This also applies to the
small business customers
01:24:50.070 --> 01:24:51.280
which is another sector.
01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:54.960
We know we've been hearing a
tremendous amount of harm from.
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:58.300
I just wanna thank also
the communications division
01:24:58.300 --> 01:25:01.950
and their leadership for
putting in a protection.
01:25:01.950 --> 01:25:03.790
As you know, the beginning of COVID
01:25:03.790 --> 01:25:05.640
there were some
voluntary measures put in
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:08.100
by the telecommunications providers,
01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:11.080
but this measure here
this resolution ordering
01:25:11.080 --> 01:25:13.580
these protections to the next 90 days
01:25:13.580 --> 01:25:16.520
for this vital service
to stay connected.
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:21.420
And finally, I just want two
of our CSF three actually
01:25:21.420 --> 01:25:25.250
of our CSF are (indistinct)
home grants that went out.
01:25:25.250 --> 01:25:27.540
Fortunately, the one that was
mentioned in public comment
01:25:27.540 --> 01:25:29.210
we'll be working
through a little bit more
01:25:29.210 --> 01:25:31.491
but hope to have it out in January.
01:25:31.491 --> 01:25:32.860
And, with these grants
01:25:32.860 --> 01:25:36.680
we will be serving an
additional 740 households
01:25:37.660 --> 01:25:38.910
and new housing units.
01:25:38.910 --> 01:25:43.900
And that's all the new in last
sincere at Sonoma County.
01:25:43.900 --> 01:25:46.560
So thank you for giving
me the opportunity
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.823
to share that with all of you.
01:25:54.170 --> 01:25:56.720
Thank you Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:57.970
I believe that we have
01:25:57.970 --> 01:26:02.490
solved Commission
Rechtschaffen technical issues.
01:26:02.490 --> 01:26:04.440
So we'll turn back to Commissioner
01:26:04.440 --> 01:26:09.343
Rechtschaffen for, I think he
was commenting on item 23.
01:26:10.500 --> 01:26:11.619
Yes, thank you--
01:26:11.619 --> 01:26:13.271
(indistinct) You're
gonna have to start
01:26:13.271 --> 01:26:14.958
from the beginning 'cause
we literally heard nothing.
01:26:14.958 --> 01:26:15.791
(President Batjer laughs)
01:26:15.791 --> 01:26:17.170
That's okay, and I have, I know
01:26:17.170 --> 01:26:19.840
that I talked a long time
in this Consent Agenda,
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:22.450
so I guess the gods wanted to cut me off
01:26:22.450 --> 01:26:23.810
and say enough like,
01:26:23.810 --> 01:26:25.610
I promise the people
and gods in the future
01:26:25.610 --> 01:26:26.650
I won't talk so long.
01:26:26.650 --> 01:26:29.780
If you don't disconnect my phone.
01:26:29.780 --> 01:26:31.130
You were very passionate.
01:26:32.491 --> 01:26:36.160
Okay, I was talking loud enough
and nobody was hearing me.
01:26:36.160 --> 01:26:39.570
The last item I wanted
to comment on is item 23
01:26:39.570 --> 01:26:42.370
which adopted a renewable gas
01:26:42.370 --> 01:26:44.350
interconnection and operating agreement.
01:26:44.350 --> 01:26:45.690
I just wanted to say a couple
01:26:45.690 --> 01:26:48.290
of things about this decision.
01:26:48.290 --> 01:26:50.710
In particular, we revise the decision
01:26:50.710 --> 01:26:55.440
to the initial draft to
specifically mandate reporting
01:26:55.440 --> 01:27:00.310
as required by the Air Resources
Board rules that required
01:27:00.310 --> 01:27:02.730
that the interconnection project funded
01:27:02.730 --> 01:27:04.460
by the incentive,
01:27:04.460 --> 01:27:08.130
provide, result in
greenhouse gas reduction.
01:27:08.130 --> 01:27:12.620
So that is now a mandatory
reporting requirement.
01:27:12.620 --> 01:27:15.040
We work closely with
the Air Resources Board
01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:18.520
on this decision and
they support the use
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.250
of CAP and trade funds
that's provided here.
01:27:21.250 --> 01:27:23.690
Their position is that
renewable natural gas
01:27:23.690 --> 01:27:27.262
in the pipeline reduces
greenhouse gas emissions.
01:27:27.262 --> 01:27:30.470
And in particular, the Air board's CAP
01:27:30.470 --> 01:27:34.260
and trade regulations
specifically exempts renewable gas
01:27:34.260 --> 01:27:37.090
from mitigation requirements that apply
01:27:37.090 --> 01:27:39.223
to fossil natural gas.
01:27:40.120 --> 01:27:43.780
And as shown by some of
the documentation generated
01:27:43.780 --> 01:27:47.500
in implementation of the low
carbon fuel standard program,
01:27:47.500 --> 01:27:50.020
renewable natural gas from dairies
01:27:50.020 --> 01:27:54.350
which the incentives
here support is the source
01:27:54.350 --> 01:27:58.153
with by far the largest amount
of greenhouse gas reduction.
01:27:59.200 --> 01:28:02.350
Finally, to minimize rate payer impacts,
01:28:02.350 --> 01:28:04.800
collection of the
funds from this decision
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:09.800
will start in 2022 and will
be spread out over two years.
01:28:09.900 --> 01:28:10.733
Thank you.
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.720
Okay, thank you,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:21.550
So I don't think there
are any other comments
01:28:21.550 --> 01:28:24.600
on the Consent Agenda at this time.
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:26.260
It seemed none, I'm gonna call
01:28:26.260 --> 01:28:30.220
for a very brief 10 minute
break before we get
01:28:30.220 --> 01:28:34.970
into the next agenda item,
which is our regular agendas.
01:28:34.970 --> 01:28:36.393
So 10 minutes break.
01:28:37.380 --> 01:28:41.500
It is 11:35, we will be
back promptly at 11:45.
01:28:41.500 --> 01:28:42.667
Thank you.
01:28:42.667 --> 01:28:44.667
(break)
01:28:48.110 --> 01:28:49.520
Come back, please
conference has resumed.
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:51.647
President Batjer you may proceed.
01:28:51.647 --> 01:28:53.040
Thank you Operator, we're going
01:28:53.040 --> 01:28:54.750
to need to establish quorum.
01:28:54.750 --> 01:28:57.333
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll.
01:28:58.410 --> 01:29:00.023
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:29:00.023 --> 01:29:01.490
Present.
01:29:01.490 --> 01:29:03.807
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:29:03.807 --> 01:29:04.640
Yeah.
01:29:05.553 --> 01:29:06.583
Commissioner Randolph.
01:29:07.550 --> 01:29:08.900
Yeah.
01:29:08.900 --> 01:29:10.123
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:29:10.123 --> 01:29:10.956
Yes, yes
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.850
President Batjer.
01:29:14.850 --> 01:29:17.460
Year, thank you, we
have established quorum.
01:29:17.460 --> 01:29:19.020
All right, we will now move on
01:29:19.020 --> 01:29:22.373
to the regular agenda
items on the agenda today.
01:29:23.710 --> 01:29:27.177
Item number three is a
telecommunications proceeding
01:29:28.870 --> 01:29:32.917
and that is Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:29:32.917 --> 01:29:34.700
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:29:34.700 --> 01:29:38.550
This proposed decision addresses
01:29:38.550 --> 01:29:41.050
confidentiality claims submitted
01:29:41.050 --> 01:29:44.643
by two major telecommunications company,
01:29:45.539 --> 01:29:47.880
AT&T and Frontier,
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:52.040
regarding a 2019
Commission sponsored report
01:29:53.010 --> 01:29:56.810
which identified very
serious wire-line service
01:29:56.810 --> 01:29:59.993
quality problems in their network.
01:30:01.409 --> 01:30:03.330
The decision finds
that the vast majority
01:30:03.330 --> 01:30:05.290
of information in the report
01:30:05.290 --> 01:30:08.770
which is called the
Network Examination Report
01:30:08.770 --> 01:30:11.380
should in fact be publicly released,
01:30:11.380 --> 01:30:15.530
consistent with our
confidentiality framework,
01:30:15.530 --> 01:30:19.380
which very heavily favors transparency.
01:30:19.380 --> 01:30:21.770
So just to remind folks,
01:30:21.770 --> 01:30:25.340
the report in question
covered an eight year timeframe
01:30:25.340 --> 01:30:28.963
from 2010 to 2017.
01:30:28.963 --> 01:30:33.240
I found that service quality
deteriorated over that period
01:30:33.240 --> 01:30:34.870
that the two carriers had been putting
01:30:34.870 --> 01:30:39.130
very limited investment
into landline infrastructure,
01:30:39.130 --> 01:30:42.120
and that the networks
were seriously lacking
01:30:42.120 --> 01:30:45.850
in resiliency to deal with
environmental conditions.
01:30:45.850 --> 01:30:49.060
It also found that the service
quality problems and the lack
01:30:49.060 --> 01:30:53.270
of investment were worse
in lower income communities,
01:30:53.270 --> 01:30:57.500
and that the steepest
deterioration in service quality
01:30:57.500 --> 01:31:00.733
occurred in the areas where
there was a least complication.
01:31:01.740 --> 01:31:05.060
We know these problems are continuing
01:31:05.060 --> 01:31:07.420
by releasing most of the report.
01:31:07.420 --> 01:31:11.670
We're putting important analysis
about the nature and extent
01:31:11.670 --> 01:31:16.030
of the service quality
issues into the public domain
01:31:16.030 --> 01:31:19.700
where hopefully will help
inform our ongoing discussions
01:31:19.700 --> 01:31:21.340
about these issues.
01:31:21.340 --> 01:31:25.090
And we, at the Commission
are evaluating what next steps
01:31:25.090 --> 01:31:28.580
we should take to address
these systemic issues
01:31:28.580 --> 01:31:31.220
that were highlighted
in the network exam.
01:31:31.220 --> 01:31:32.513
And that persist.
01:31:34.120 --> 01:31:37.460
In comments on the proposed decision,
01:31:37.460 --> 01:31:40.480
some of the carriers
express some concerns
01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:43.650
about the reach of
the legal analysis here.
01:31:43.650 --> 01:31:46.653
They argued extended
beyond the facts of this case.
01:31:47.510 --> 01:31:50.040
We made some appropriate revisions
01:31:50.040 --> 01:31:52.810
in response to these concerns.
01:31:52.810 --> 01:31:56.790
I'd like to thank the extremely
highly committed team
01:31:56.790 --> 01:31:57.740
of lawyers who worked
01:31:57.740 --> 01:32:01.060
on this decision over
the last several months
01:32:01.060 --> 01:32:03.690
they did a very thorough job
01:32:03.690 --> 01:32:06.503
of systematically evaluating one by one,
01:32:07.570 --> 01:32:12.400
the carriers confidentiality claims
01:32:12.400 --> 01:32:14.780
they redacted portions of the report.
01:32:14.780 --> 01:32:17.750
So that sections of it
could be released even
01:32:17.750 --> 01:32:21.030
as these claims were being reviewed.
01:32:21.030 --> 01:32:22.350
I wanna thank (indistinct)
01:32:22.350 --> 01:32:25.590
Who was the lead
attorney and did a terrific job
01:32:25.590 --> 01:32:29.660
of managing the project
and working with our office.
01:32:29.660 --> 01:32:34.660
Fred Harris, Helen
Miscavige, ALJ (indistinct)
01:32:35.420 --> 01:32:38.063
and MacDonald, Lisa Hernandez,
01:32:39.261 --> 01:32:41.740
(indistinct), Karen Eckersley.
01:32:41.740 --> 01:32:43.270
And we Fisher.
01:32:43.270 --> 01:32:47.690
I also wanna thank my
advisor, Sidney George
01:32:47.690 --> 01:32:51.040
and my Bagley-Keene
partner, President Batjer
01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:54.020
and her advisor, Michael Malaney.
01:32:54.020 --> 01:32:56.393
With that, I ask for
your support on this item.
01:32:59.320 --> 01:33:01.500
Thank you, are there any
questions for Commissioner Cliff?
01:33:01.500 --> 01:33:04.290
Commissioner Randolph,
do you have a question?
01:33:04.290 --> 01:33:05.786
Oh, I don't have a question.
01:33:05.786 --> 01:33:06.619
I was just gonna comment.
01:33:06.619 --> 01:33:08.660
So I'll wait to see if
anybody has any questions.
01:33:10.460 --> 01:33:14.253
Okay, seeing none, go
ahead with your comment.
01:33:15.990 --> 01:33:19.810
Okay, I just wanted
to give, you know
01:33:19.810 --> 01:33:22.830
some sort of special
thanks to the legal division
01:33:22.830 --> 01:33:24.090
and Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:33:24.090 --> 01:33:26.950
for working through these issues.
01:33:26.950 --> 01:33:31.027
With the Commission is
unique amongst state agencies
01:33:31.027 --> 01:33:34.180
because we have a
statute that basically says,
01:33:34.180 --> 01:33:35.690
that it's a misdemeanor
01:33:35.690 --> 01:33:38.100
for us to release
confidential information.
01:33:38.100 --> 01:33:40.280
So we have to be extremely careful
01:33:41.150 --> 01:33:44.810
and our legal division
has done a great job
01:33:44.810 --> 01:33:47.880
of being very clear with
our regulated entities
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:50.610
that we want information to be public.
01:33:50.610 --> 01:33:53.700
We will protect
information when it needs
01:33:53.700 --> 01:33:54.570
to be confidential,
01:33:54.570 --> 01:33:58.110
but we are not going
to just blanketly assume
01:33:58.110 --> 01:33:59.740
that everything should be confidential.
01:33:59.740 --> 01:34:01.400
And instead, we are gonna work
01:34:01.400 --> 01:34:04.490
through these issues
carefully and thoughtfully
01:34:04.490 --> 01:34:07.980
and release as much information
to the public as possible.
01:34:07.980 --> 01:34:11.450
So I really appreciate
the work that they did
01:34:11.450 --> 01:34:14.940
on this decision to, you know
01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:17.340
provide the sunshine that is important
01:34:17.340 --> 01:34:19.360
for the public to see.
01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:20.193
So thank you.
01:34:23.328 --> 01:34:24.370
Thank you for
Commissioner Randolph.
01:34:24.370 --> 01:34:25.203
Any other comments?
01:34:25.203 --> 01:34:26.717
Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:34:28.260 --> 01:34:29.950
Likewise, I wanted to
thank judges 8 (indistinct)
01:34:29.950 --> 01:34:32.700
should be Mr. Burr and
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:34:32.700 --> 01:34:34.760
for this very thorough
01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:37.820
and very well-written
decision after the legal division.
01:34:37.820 --> 01:34:41.090
Everybody mentioned in
communications divisions.
01:34:41.090 --> 01:34:45.288
I think as Commissioner
Randolph mentioned,
01:34:45.288 --> 01:34:49.690
this type of sunshining of
what's actually happening
01:34:49.690 --> 01:34:51.590
in the world, is not just gonna help us
01:34:51.590 --> 01:34:53.420
to make better decisions
01:34:53.420 --> 01:34:56.460
and having our parties
have access to that.
01:34:56.460 --> 01:34:59.640
But more importantly, it's
going to allow customers
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:03.060
to know who's the better provider?
01:35:03.060 --> 01:35:05.120
where are the investments taking place?
01:35:05.120 --> 01:35:07.260
And, you know, we just talk every day
01:35:07.260 --> 01:35:09.213
about our service quality,
01:35:10.170 --> 01:35:11.780
actually having that transparency
01:35:11.780 --> 01:35:15.230
for the public is so
tremendously important.
01:35:15.230 --> 01:35:19.590
And I look forward to carrying
the same approach forward
01:35:19.590 --> 01:35:21.780
in a couple of the proceedings
01:35:21.780 --> 01:35:25.090
that has been, really
awaiting this decision
01:35:25.090 --> 01:35:27.100
to set forth the right policy.
01:35:27.100 --> 01:35:28.520
So, thank you very much.
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.423
And I very much look forward
to supporting this decision.
01:35:34.450 --> 01:35:35.850
Okay, thank you.
01:35:35.850 --> 01:35:37.440
I think we can move on
01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:40.590
and I will ask the agenda
clerk to please call the roll
01:35:40.590 --> 01:35:42.033
on item number three,
01:35:43.290 --> 01:35:45.383
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:35:45.383 --> 01:35:46.670
Aye.
01:35:46.670 --> 01:35:48.680
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:49.513
Aye.
01:35:50.700 --> 01:35:52.740
Commissioner Randolph.
01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:53.573
Yes.
01:35:54.819 --> 01:35:56.330
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:35:56.330 --> 01:35:57.163
Yes.
01:35:58.101 --> 01:35:59.350
President Batjer.
01:35:59.350 --> 01:36:01.780
Yes, Item three is
passed unanimously.
01:36:01.780 --> 01:36:06.247
All right, we'll be done now
to item four is an energy item.
01:36:06.247 --> 01:36:10.070
Commissioner Randolph
that is yours as well.
01:36:10.070 --> 01:36:12.200
Thank you President Batjer,
01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:15.030
item four is a proposed decision
01:36:15.030 --> 01:36:18.550
that would approve a
pilot program proposed
01:36:18.550 --> 01:36:22.580
by SoCalGas and San Diego Gas & Electric
01:36:22.580 --> 01:36:27.260
to implement a voluntary
renewable gas carer.
01:36:27.260 --> 01:36:30.800
The carers would be
offered to core customers
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.430
of SoCalGas who are residential
01:36:34.430 --> 01:36:37.273
and small commercial
and industrial customers.
01:36:38.190 --> 01:36:39.620
They would pay a premium
01:36:39.620 --> 01:36:43.070
if they elect to purchase
the renewable gas
01:36:43.070 --> 01:36:45.613
just to step back for a minute.
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.480
Development of renewable
natural gas is consistent
01:36:50.480 --> 01:36:54.252
with the state's short-lived
climate pollutant goals
01:36:54.252 --> 01:36:58.770
of reducing methane
emissions in the state by 40%.
01:36:58.770 --> 01:36:59.890
It's also consistent
01:36:59.890 --> 01:37:02.960
with the significant
investments we've made
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:07.750
as required under SB-1383,
to facilitate the interconnection
01:37:07.750 --> 01:37:11.643
of bio-methane to be
gas pipeline system.
01:37:12.610 --> 01:37:16.467
We are also under a directive in SB-1440
01:37:18.330 --> 01:37:20.500
to determine whether to develop
01:37:20.500 --> 01:37:23.320
a renewable gas procurement standards
01:37:23.320 --> 01:37:25.610
for gas utilities.
01:37:25.610 --> 01:37:28.430
So this voluntary pilot program,
01:37:28.430 --> 01:37:32.170
the solitary tariff is complimentary
01:37:32.170 --> 01:37:36.080
to the effort under 1440,
01:37:36.080 --> 01:37:40.070
and could help us learn
lessons that are useful
01:37:40.070 --> 01:37:42.380
for the determination we'll have to make
01:37:42.380 --> 01:37:44.800
including what the market
is for renewable gas?
01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.000
What the contract's terms are?
01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.023
What sources might be
available for renewable gas?
01:37:51.580 --> 01:37:55.620
Some customers of SoCalGas
and San Diego Gas and Electric.
01:37:55.620 --> 01:38:00.350
They asked for this
voluntary, renewable gas tariff.
01:38:00.350 --> 01:38:04.250
They have their own
ambitious carbon reduction goals
01:38:04.250 --> 01:38:07.773
and they wanna reduce
the natural gas footprint.
01:38:08.770 --> 01:38:10.090
In developing this tariff,
01:38:10.090 --> 01:38:13.320
we work closely with
the Air Resources Board
01:38:13.320 --> 01:38:15.723
and they support the decision.
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.300
The point to note,
this is a pilot program.
01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:20.830
We will evaluate the results
01:38:20.830 --> 01:38:25.093
from the first three years to
decide if it should continue.
01:38:26.090 --> 01:38:27.840
Initially, many of the parties
01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:30.450
in the case reached the settlement
01:38:30.450 --> 01:38:33.560
but the decision here revises
the proposed settlement
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.770
in some very significant ways.
01:38:36.770 --> 01:38:39.100
The most notable change is
01:38:39.100 --> 01:38:40.630
that we revise the provision
01:38:40.630 --> 01:38:43.940
that would have
allowed the gas utilities
01:38:43.940 --> 01:38:48.940
to procure up to 100%
renewable gas from out of state,
01:38:50.790 --> 01:38:55.610
if the costs of in-state
renewable gas were too high
01:38:55.610 --> 01:38:57.460
above a certain threshold.
01:38:57.460 --> 01:38:59.740
Under the pilot, as we revised it,
01:38:59.740 --> 01:39:04.740
at least 50% of the renewable
gas has to be in California
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.360
or provide environmental
benefits to California.
01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:11.073
So that's a very important
change to make sure
01:39:11.073 --> 01:39:15.500
that this provides
benefits to California.
01:39:15.500 --> 01:39:17.680
We made a number of other revisions
01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:21.960
most notably to address issues
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:23.750
of the local environmental impact
01:39:23.750 --> 01:39:26.570
of dairy, that were
raised quite forcefully
01:39:26.570 --> 01:39:28.920
by local communities that are impacted
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:33.400
by air and water
pollution from the dairies.
01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:36.240
One of these is a requirement that
01:39:36.240 --> 01:39:40.040
if renewable natural gas
is procured from a dairy,
01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:43.270
the utility must submit an annual report
01:39:43.270 --> 01:39:44.690
on the dairies compliance
01:39:44.690 --> 01:39:47.580
with air and water
pollution control standards.
01:39:47.580 --> 01:39:50.610
And also if there are any violations,
01:39:50.610 --> 01:39:53.560
explain those violations.
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:56.120
This requirement is modeled closely
01:39:56.120 --> 01:39:57.630
on a requirement that we have...
01:39:57.630 --> 01:40:02.330
We previously adopted
in the BioRAM program
01:40:02.330 --> 01:40:04.250
for facilities selling electricity
01:40:04.250 --> 01:40:06.110
from sustainable forestry.
01:40:06.110 --> 01:40:10.120
Biomass is compliance
reporting about adherence
01:40:10.120 --> 01:40:13.720
to local to other
environmental standards.
01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:14.890
That's one change.
01:40:14.890 --> 01:40:18.110
Additionally, the marketing materials
01:40:18.110 --> 01:40:20.230
for the program that the utilities use
01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.570
cannot portray renewable
natural gas procurement
01:40:25.570 --> 01:40:28.730
as a solution to the local
environmental impacts of dairies
01:40:28.730 --> 01:40:31.100
or any other bio-methane process.
01:40:31.100 --> 01:40:32.920
And in particular,
01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:35.620
the materials must
disclose that while capturing
01:40:35.620 --> 01:40:39.080
bio-gas from dairies to
produce renewable natural
01:40:39.080 --> 01:40:42.380
gas reduces GHG
emissions therefore, that's,
01:40:42.380 --> 01:40:45.053
the point of this, that's
the climate benefit.
01:40:46.280 --> 01:40:47.890
The materials have to disclose
01:40:47.890 --> 01:40:50.860
that renewable natural
gas does not mitigate
01:40:50.860 --> 01:40:52.950
all the water, air and odor pollution
01:40:52.950 --> 01:40:55.933
from dairies that impacts
local communities.
01:40:57.220 --> 01:40:59.990
We're also requiring a statement
01:40:59.990 --> 01:41:03.610
to hopefully provide some
clarity and avoid confusion
01:41:03.610 --> 01:41:06.030
about whether renewable...
01:41:06.030 --> 01:41:07.790
Whether using renewable gas
01:41:07.790 --> 01:41:11.860
in appliances is safer or healthier.
01:41:11.860 --> 01:41:13.640
The answer is that it's not.
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:17.230
Using renewable natural
gas is not any safer
01:41:17.230 --> 01:41:19.700
than thoughtful gas
'cause the gas is still burned
01:41:19.700 --> 01:41:21.610
in buildings, appliances.
01:41:21.610 --> 01:41:25.020
Therefore, the marketing
materials must be disclose
01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:27.301
that using renewable natural gas
01:41:27.301 --> 01:41:32.301
and gas appliances does
not reduce indoor air pollution
01:41:32.470 --> 01:41:35.733
as compared to using regular
fossil based natural gas.
01:41:37.100 --> 01:41:38.570
Two other requirements.
01:41:38.570 --> 01:41:42.640
There's a requirement
about building electrification.
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.090
The marketing materials are not allowed
01:41:45.090 --> 01:41:46.680
to make any comparisons
01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:50.150
or assertions about
building electrification
01:41:50.150 --> 01:41:54.580
or include any statements that
promote renewable natural gas
01:41:54.580 --> 01:41:56.513
over building electrification.
01:41:57.530 --> 01:41:59.710
And this includes a prohibition
01:41:59.710 --> 01:42:02.420
on making statements
about the costs, impacts
01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:05.803
or desirability of
building electrification.
01:42:07.300 --> 01:42:10.910
Finally, the materials that
are marketed must disclose
01:42:10.910 --> 01:42:13.520
that purchasing renewable natural gas,
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:16.160
under the tariff program
will reduce the utilities,
01:42:16.160 --> 01:42:19.740
greenhouse gas obligations
under the Air Resources Board
01:42:19.740 --> 01:42:22.650
Cap-and-Trade regulation.
01:42:22.650 --> 01:42:25.000
I think all of these are
important safeguards
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.020
to make clear the limitations
of the renewable natural gas
01:42:29.020 --> 01:42:30.503
that is being procured.
01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:35.220
We also changed the
decision to give the utilities up
01:42:35.220 --> 01:42:37.380
to six months to decide whether
01:42:37.380 --> 01:42:38.933
to proceed with the tariff.
01:42:39.830 --> 01:42:43.320
This will give them time
to see what the outcome is
01:42:43.320 --> 01:42:46.953
of the SB-1440 proceeding, I mentioned.
01:42:46.953 --> 01:42:50.770
And, that's important
because if we decide
01:42:50.770 --> 01:42:54.770
to adopt a renewable procurement target,
01:42:54.770 --> 01:42:56.130
the utilities might be able
01:42:56.130 --> 01:42:57.680
to piggyback procurement
01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:02.070
for this tariff program with procurement
01:43:02.070 --> 01:43:03.600
of long-term contracts.
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:07.500
If any result from the decision,
and long-term contracts
01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:11.810
could facilitate the development of new
01:43:11.810 --> 01:43:13.130
and hopefully lower costs,
01:43:13.130 --> 01:43:16.180
renewable natural gas in California
01:43:16.180 --> 01:43:18.410
because it would
allow additional facilities
01:43:18.410 --> 01:43:21.630
to make the investments
needed for production
01:43:21.630 --> 01:43:24.190
and interconnection to the gas pipeline.
01:43:24.190 --> 01:43:27.250
So those are the changes
I wanna thank everyone
01:43:27.250 --> 01:43:30.050
for their hard work on
this very thorough decision
01:43:30.050 --> 01:43:32.253
that worked through
many complicated issues.
01:43:33.470 --> 01:43:37.530
ALJ, Scarlet, Luang,
Way Joe and Burt Mattson,
01:43:37.530 --> 01:43:42.090
energy division staff,
(indistinct), Karen song,
01:43:42.090 --> 01:43:46.160
Nixon Johnny, my
advisors Sandy Goldberg,
01:43:46.160 --> 01:43:51.160
my Bagley-Keene partner Martha,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
01:43:51.270 --> 01:43:55.850
who was not agreeing
with me on many aspects
01:43:55.850 --> 01:43:57.270
of this decision was...
01:43:57.270 --> 01:44:01.150
Gave me very valuable
contributions and input.
01:44:01.150 --> 01:44:02.843
With that I ask for your support.
01:44:05.601 --> 01:44:07.281
Are there any
questions or comments?
01:44:07.281 --> 01:44:10.145
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:44:10.145 --> 01:44:13.368
Yes, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
01:44:13.368 --> 01:44:14.519
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:44:14.519 --> 01:44:17.230
And thank you,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:44:17.230 --> 01:44:20.050
and particularly thank you
to your staff, Sandy Goldberg
01:44:20.050 --> 01:44:23.437
for all those efforts in addressing some
01:44:23.437 --> 01:44:26.310
of the concerns that you
have highlighted so well.
01:44:26.310 --> 01:44:29.350
I think particularly
addressing the concerns
01:44:29.350 --> 01:44:31.920
of the environmental
justice communities regarding
01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:35.880
the necessary marketing
disclosures that are now required
01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:38.510
as you highlighted,
it's really important
01:44:38.510 --> 01:44:42.020
for us to not complete
greenhouse gas capture
01:44:42.020 --> 01:44:44.680
with actual pollution reduction.
01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:46.780
And I think you've captured that.
01:44:46.780 --> 01:44:49.760
Especially when we're talking
about these localized impacts
01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:53.500
of the frontline communities
who are adjacent
01:44:53.500 --> 01:44:56.870
to these major methane
producing facilities
01:44:56.870 --> 01:44:59.520
and where the most notable impact is
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:03.143
to their own air quality
and their water quality.
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:06.930
I also wanna share
and just kind of highlight
01:45:06.930 --> 01:45:11.350
that this is not my concern
with this approaches
01:45:11.350 --> 01:45:14.150
not against capturing methane in total.
01:45:14.150 --> 01:45:16.040
And that's why I was supportive
01:45:16.040 --> 01:45:20.670
of the very substantial
investments that we approved
01:45:20.670 --> 01:45:24.410
on the Consent Agenda that
you mentioned in your summary
01:45:24.410 --> 01:45:27.943
the 285 million for
SoCalGas and 15.8 million
01:45:29.470 --> 01:45:32.680
for STG need to capture
their missing weeks
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.430
and the 40 million of
additional GHG funding
01:45:36.430 --> 01:45:38.030
to pay for the interconnection costs
01:45:38.030 --> 01:45:41.350
of these in-state
facilities to the pipeline.
01:45:41.350 --> 01:45:43.110
So, I'm supportive those.
01:45:43.110 --> 01:45:46.560
I think, we have a statutory obligation
01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:49.750
and we wanna see the capturing
01:45:49.750 --> 01:45:54.750
of these waste stream
gas in our state in particular.
01:45:57.070 --> 01:45:58.930
So, we have to remember
01:45:58.930 --> 01:46:00.260
with all of these investments
01:46:00.260 --> 01:46:03.950
that, we're not just
trying to capture methane,
01:46:03.950 --> 01:46:06.370
we're trying to reduce the pollution.
01:46:06.370 --> 01:46:08.350
And that is something
related to what you said
01:46:08.350 --> 01:46:11.520
which is in the end, this
gas will still be combusted.
01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:15.220
It's still gonna create those
issues, indoor, outdoor.
01:46:15.220 --> 01:46:17.890
It's gonna create those particulates
01:46:17.890 --> 01:46:19.330
from generating electricity,
01:46:19.330 --> 01:46:22.700
or it's gonna create the
particulate when you're burning it
01:46:22.700 --> 01:46:24.200
in a car engine.
01:46:24.200 --> 01:46:26.420
So, this is...
01:46:27.690 --> 01:46:29.480
It's something that we can get kind
01:46:29.480 --> 01:46:32.910
of our strategies misaligned
with in our strategy first
01:46:32.910 --> 01:46:36.700
and foremost must
be to reduce pollution.
01:46:36.700 --> 01:46:41.383
And that's why this tariff is
the more misaligned for me.
01:46:43.290 --> 01:46:44.440
And, as you said
01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:46.480
I think it's a little
bit premature given
01:46:46.480 --> 01:46:48.850
that we have unfinished
the actual proceeding
01:46:48.850 --> 01:46:52.810
which looking at the orangy goal.
01:46:52.810 --> 01:46:56.160
And, so when I see a tariff like this
01:46:56.160 --> 01:46:58.230
like the (indistinct)
tariff or other tariffs,
01:46:58.230 --> 01:47:01.310
they're put in place to create a market.
01:47:01.310 --> 01:47:02.700
And creating a market
01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:06.940
for renewable gas is something
01:47:06.940 --> 01:47:09.505
I'm still not decided on.
01:47:09.505 --> 01:47:11.600
It has to be coupled
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:13.540
with I'm sure what
Liane will take care of
01:47:13.540 --> 01:47:18.450
which is a guaranteed
reduction in the waste stream.
01:47:18.450 --> 01:47:21.410
And we don't have quite the lineup yet.
01:47:21.410 --> 01:47:24.470
So, I am also concerned
01:47:24.470 --> 01:47:27.220
that this is gonna roar a premium price
01:47:27.220 --> 01:47:30.170
that will result in facilities
and particularly brokers
01:47:30.170 --> 01:47:33.840
from other States to gained mechanism
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:38.483
and have the selling of
important gas that is this gained.
01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:41.610
And I know you have an auditor for that
01:47:41.610 --> 01:47:43.203
but I still worry about that.
01:47:44.690 --> 01:47:47.750
So ultimately I feel
like it's premature.
01:47:47.750 --> 01:47:51.520
I know that in the latest (indistinct)
01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:54.390
there's a discussion between
the gas company and some
01:47:54.390 --> 01:47:55.780
of the environmental organizations,
01:47:55.780 --> 01:47:58.973
but, nonetheless that is
using the high assessment.
01:48:00.400 --> 01:48:03.770
If you capture all the
methods from these facilities
01:48:03.770 --> 01:48:05.250
we could only equate that to
01:48:05.250 --> 01:48:08.970
about 7% of our actual
gas consumption needs.
01:48:08.970 --> 01:48:12.060
So, we can't develop a market for this.
01:48:12.060 --> 01:48:14.970
It's not something we wanna see grow,
01:48:14.970 --> 01:48:16.773
is something we wanna see reduced.
01:48:17.950 --> 01:48:21.880
So I hope that we could...
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:24.100
I would prefer that
we would hold this until
01:48:24.100 --> 01:48:27.831
the 1441 proceedings are deliberated.
01:48:27.831 --> 01:48:31.280
And I would ask you to consider that.
01:48:31.280 --> 01:48:32.113
Thank you.
01:48:36.580 --> 01:48:40.868
Okay, are there any other
comments or questions?
01:48:40.868 --> 01:48:43.618
Over to Commissioner
Rechtschaffen on item number four.
01:48:47.810 --> 01:48:51.090
Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:48:51.090 --> 01:48:54.313
Well, if there are no
other Commissioners
01:48:54.313 --> 01:48:58.251
then I could just respond very
quickly to the Commissioner--
01:48:58.251 --> 01:48:59.600
Yes, (indistinct) go ahead.
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:01.360
Last point, right?
01:49:01.360 --> 01:49:02.360
We thought about that.
01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:07.340
I do think it's appropriate
to go forward now
01:49:07.340 --> 01:49:10.580
with the protections and
given the limited scale
01:49:10.580 --> 01:49:14.310
the abilities us to review
this after a few years
01:49:14.310 --> 01:49:16.420
then also the hopeful learning
01:49:16.420 --> 01:49:20.560
that we can gain from a pilot
01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:24.363
at that could inform the
SB-1414 deliberations.
01:49:25.380 --> 01:49:28.430
But that's my inclination
is to go forward
01:49:28.430 --> 01:49:30.080
and not to hold it at this point.
01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:33.850
Okay, with that,
01:49:33.850 --> 01:49:36.293
I'm gonna ask you just
to, Commissioner Shiroma
01:49:38.161 --> 01:49:39.961
do you have a comments or questions?
01:49:41.140 --> 01:49:41.973
Okay, sure.
01:49:44.500 --> 01:49:46.543
I support the pilot program.
01:49:47.950 --> 01:49:51.900
I Think that the Load of question
01:49:51.900 --> 01:49:54.160
that Commissioner Guzman Aceves raises
01:49:54.160 --> 01:49:59.160
about whether it's a good thing
01:49:59.750 --> 01:50:00.750
or whether it's wise
01:50:00.750 --> 01:50:05.373
to be supporting bio-methane altogether,
01:50:06.630 --> 01:50:10.910
is a, you know, as I suppose
01:50:10.910 --> 01:50:15.910
a larger question of, you
know, Californians now,
01:50:16.950 --> 01:50:20.110
I feel that we have been here before us,
01:50:20.110 --> 01:50:21.920
is a pilot program,
01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.693
that should inform the
Senate bill requirements.
01:50:27.650 --> 01:50:30.990
We've had, you know
(indistinct) amounts of discussions
01:50:30.990 --> 01:50:34.963
about dairies, landfills,
waste water treatment plants,
01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:39.720
and capturing the methane generated
01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:41.993
by these types of activities,
01:50:43.090 --> 01:50:46.630
cleaning it up (indistinct)
and so forth and long.
01:50:46.630 --> 01:50:49.250
It proved to be used in the pipeline.
01:50:49.250 --> 01:50:50.830
And I think we have an opportunity
01:50:50.830 --> 01:50:54.740
to learn a lot from this effort.
01:50:54.740 --> 01:50:59.730
It's a voluntary effort and, you know,
01:50:59.730 --> 01:51:02.893
my own experience in as my director,
01:51:04.080 --> 01:51:05.553
as part of the portfolio,
01:51:08.417 --> 01:51:09.820
as part of the green portfolio,
01:51:09.820 --> 01:51:13.810
for Sacramento County, got all
01:51:13.810 --> 01:51:17.130
of these dairies landfills, waste water
01:51:17.130 --> 01:51:20.960
and food waste as well.
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:25.960
So, I support the proposal.
01:51:26.160 --> 01:51:28.330
That's proposed decisions, thank you.
01:51:30.312 --> 01:51:34.392
Thank you, yes,
Commissioner Randolph.
01:51:34.392 --> 01:51:35.563
Thank you.
01:51:35.563 --> 01:51:39.300
I agree with Commissioner Shiroma
01:51:39.300 --> 01:51:42.490
in the sense that I
think having this pilot
01:51:42.490 --> 01:51:47.490
gives us the opportunity to
learn some key information.
01:51:47.830 --> 01:51:50.570
And one of the questions
I have in my mind
01:51:50.570 --> 01:51:54.750
which I think is still a big question
01:51:54.750 --> 01:51:59.380
is you know, does this
activity, or does this tariff
01:51:59.380 --> 01:52:04.260
insent this colluding
activity to continue?
01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:06.580
Or does it take advantage
01:52:06.580 --> 01:52:09.460
of a waste product that we can capture
01:52:09.460 --> 01:52:14.410
and prevent environmental damage
01:52:14.410 --> 01:52:16.183
by putting to another use?
01:52:17.646 --> 01:52:20.160
And I think the pilot
may help us understand
01:52:20.160 --> 01:52:21.760
that as we think about that
01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:26.760
in the SB-1441 proceeding
and how of that gets unpacked.
01:52:29.650 --> 01:52:34.560
So, I am supportive
of moving this forward
01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:38.453
and allowing this voluntary
tariff to go into place.
01:52:39.910 --> 01:52:42.750
Okay, with that, I'm
gonna ask the agenda
01:52:42.750 --> 01:52:44.250
clerk to please call the roll.
01:52:46.370 --> 01:52:48.200
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:52:48.200 --> 01:52:49.033
Aye.
01:52:49.970 --> 01:52:51.820
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:53.633
No.
01:52:54.910 --> 01:52:57.030
Commissioner Randolph.
01:52:57.030 --> 01:52:57.863
Yes.
01:52:59.290 --> 01:53:01.440
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:03.680
Yes, yes.
01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:05.383
President Batjer.
01:53:05.383 --> 01:53:10.200
Yes, the vote is
four ayes and one no
01:53:11.060 --> 01:53:12.003
the motion passes.
01:53:12.870 --> 01:53:17.100
Okay, moving on now
to item 52 energy item
01:53:17.100 --> 01:53:20.020
and that's a Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:53:20.020 --> 01:53:21.739
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:53:21.739 --> 01:53:23.720
And this is a order
extending a statutory deadline
01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:26.320
for Southern California
Edison's application
01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:28.340
for a certificate of public convenience
01:53:28.340 --> 01:53:32.690
and necessity for the
Alberhill System Project.
01:53:32.690 --> 01:53:37.270
And you will recall this
project we had issued
01:53:37.270 --> 01:53:41.720
in August of 2018, a
decision where we determined
01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:44.160
that we lacked the
sufficient information
01:53:44.160 --> 01:53:46.470
to rule on the application,
01:53:46.470 --> 01:53:50.320
and redirected Edison
to file a supplemental.
01:53:50.320 --> 01:53:52.250
As it did at this may.
01:53:52.250 --> 01:53:54.490
And energy division
has been working hard
01:53:54.490 --> 01:53:56.310
reviewing the applications
01:53:56.310 --> 01:54:00.273
and they're currently
undergoing (indistinct)
01:54:00.273 --> 01:54:05.196
And once it's complete, we'll
most likely need some hearings
01:54:05.196 --> 01:54:07.930
and to draft a proposal.
01:54:07.930 --> 01:54:12.570
So due to that, and
due to the, you know,
01:54:12.570 --> 01:54:15.570
recent filing relatively
recent fines and medicine
01:54:15.570 --> 01:54:17.730
I'm gonna ask you to
support an extension
01:54:17.730 --> 01:54:20.290
to December of next year, thank you.
01:54:25.370 --> 01:54:26.830
Thank you (indistinct)
01:54:26.830 --> 01:54:28.630
Are there any questions or comments?
01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:31.570
Hey, seeing none, may the agenda clerk
01:54:31.570 --> 01:54:33.583
please call the roll on item 52.
01:54:35.101 --> 01:54:36.470
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:54:36.470 --> 01:54:38.090
Aye.
01:54:38.090 --> 01:54:40.020
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:54:40.020 --> 01:54:41.560
Aye.
01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:43.019
Commissioner Randolph.
01:54:43.019 --> 01:54:44.163
Yes.
01:54:45.734 --> 01:54:47.200
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:54:47.200 --> 01:54:48.033
Yes.
01:54:48.953 --> 01:54:49.980
President Batjer.
01:54:49.980 --> 01:54:54.260
Yes, the vote is
unanimous for item 52.
01:54:54.260 --> 01:54:57.099
Moving on now to item 53.
01:54:57.099 --> 01:54:58.749
And that is Commissioner Shiroma.
01:54:59.710 --> 01:55:01.560
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:05.830
Items 53, is a proposed additional order
01:55:05.830 --> 01:55:10.830
for proceeding 1907004, that involves
01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:13.660
the general rate case proceedings
01:55:13.660 --> 01:55:16.890
for the California
American Water Company
01:55:16.890 --> 01:55:19.300
with tests for 2021.
01:55:19.300 --> 01:55:22.680
I'm asking for this
extension of the deadline
01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:27.680
for completion from December
30, 2020 to September 30, 2021.
01:55:30.040 --> 01:55:33.910
We have navigated the
COVID-19 environment very well
01:55:33.910 --> 01:55:36.680
but it has affected a number
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:39.540
of proceedings including this one
01:55:39.540 --> 01:55:43.603
in terms of delaying mediation
and evidentiary hearings.
01:55:44.500 --> 01:55:47.440
Thus the need for virtual participation
01:55:47.440 --> 01:55:51.580
and the true-up of the
resources required to ensure
01:55:51.580 --> 01:55:54.020
that those processes run smoothly.
01:55:54.020 --> 01:55:55.780
You know, originally it was anticipated
01:55:55.780 --> 01:55:58.210
that evidentiary hearings on all
01:55:58.210 --> 01:56:01.310
of the pending disputed
issues would require more
01:56:01.310 --> 01:56:02.373
than three weeks.
01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:06.600
But presumably if all or
some other disputed issues
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:09.770
are resolved in mediation,
the potential duration
01:56:09.770 --> 01:56:11.750
for evidentiary hearings could be less
01:56:12.648 --> 01:56:14.160
than we had anticipated.
01:56:14.160 --> 01:56:17.200
So to address these, the student issues
01:56:17.200 --> 01:56:20.980
the parties have engaged
in extensive mediation
01:56:20.980 --> 01:56:22.564
provided the admission of
01:56:22.564 --> 01:56:24.470
while charged with updates in November.
01:56:24.470 --> 01:56:27.753
This person did just last month.
01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:32.370
And also again, this month overall
01:56:32.370 --> 01:56:35.210
a nine month extension of the deadline
01:56:35.210 --> 01:56:38.230
in this proceeding should
allow for adequate time
01:56:38.230 --> 01:56:41.540
for parties to wrap up
settlement negotiations
01:56:41.540 --> 01:56:45.030
and then for the Commission
to hold evidentiary hearings
01:56:45.030 --> 01:56:47.741
if necessary to review the brief
01:56:47.741 --> 01:56:49.370
and to issue a proposed decision.
01:56:49.370 --> 01:56:50.320
I ask for your (indistinct).
01:56:50.320 --> 01:56:51.153
Thank you.
01:56:53.423 --> 01:56:54.256
And do you have any questions
01:56:54.256 --> 01:56:57.743
of Commissioner Shiroma on item 53?
01:56:58.980 --> 01:57:02.450
Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk
01:57:02.450 --> 01:57:04.220
please call the roll.
01:57:04.220 --> 01:57:05.629
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:57:05.629 --> 01:57:06.603
Aye.
01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:09.433
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:57:09.433 --> 01:57:10.266
Aye.
01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:13.530
Commissioner Randolph.
01:57:13.530 --> 01:57:14.363
Yes.
01:57:15.250 --> 01:57:17.230
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:57:17.230 --> 01:57:18.396
Yes.
01:57:18.396 --> 01:57:19.890
President Batjer.
01:57:19.890 --> 01:57:24.350
Yes, thank you, item
53 is passed unanimously.
01:57:24.350 --> 01:57:26.647
Moving on to item 54,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:57:26.647 --> 01:57:28.540
that's your item?
01:57:28.540 --> 01:57:31.310
Item 54 is an extension order.
01:57:31.310 --> 01:57:35.220
It concerns consolidated
complaint proceedings
01:57:35.220 --> 01:57:39.030
between AT&T and
TruConnect Communications.
01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:42.960
The presiding officer issued a decision
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.761
in December that was
subsequently appeal.
01:57:45.761 --> 01:57:47.122
(indistinct) everybody.
01:57:47.122 --> 01:57:52.080
The proceeding is due to
expire on December 30th.
01:57:52.080 --> 01:57:53.360
Additional time is needed
01:57:53.360 --> 01:57:56.717
to prepare a modified
presiding offices decision
01:57:56.717 --> 01:58:00.070
and to place it on the agenda
of a Commission meeting
01:58:00.070 --> 01:58:01.520
for us to consider.
01:58:01.520 --> 01:58:04.430
I asked for your support to
extend the proceeding deadline
01:58:04.430 --> 01:58:06.603
to June 30th of next year.
01:58:12.949 --> 01:58:15.310
Okay, thank you,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:58:15.310 --> 01:58:17.923
Are there any questions or comments?
01:58:19.310 --> 01:58:20.950
It seems none, will the agenda clerk
01:58:20.950 --> 01:58:22.000
please call the roll?
01:58:23.062 --> 01:58:24.613
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:58:24.613 --> 01:58:25.446
Aye,
01:58:26.340 --> 01:58:28.198
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:58:28.198 --> 01:58:29.320
Aye,
01:58:29.320 --> 01:58:31.398
Commissioner Randolph.
01:58:31.398 --> 01:58:32.675
Yes.
01:58:32.675 --> 01:58:34.994
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:58:34.994 --> 01:58:36.469
Yes.
01:58:36.469 --> 01:58:38.719
President Batjer.
01:58:40.220 --> 01:58:45.220
Sorry, yes, the vote is
unanimous on item 54.
01:58:46.590 --> 01:58:50.453
Moving now onto item 55,
which is Commissioner Randolph.
01:58:52.770 --> 01:58:55.810
This is an expedited
complaint proceedings
01:58:55.810 --> 01:58:57.830
concerning a customer's participation
01:58:57.830 --> 01:59:00.630
in the California
Alternative Rates for Energy
01:59:00.630 --> 01:59:03.710
or CARE program and disputed charges
01:59:03.710 --> 01:59:06.380
over a four-month billing period.
01:59:06.380 --> 01:59:08.610
While an expedited complaint proceeding
01:59:08.610 --> 01:59:11.310
is technically not
adjudicatory proceeding,
01:59:11.310 --> 01:59:12.760
as practice, we have adhered
01:59:12.760 --> 01:59:15.573
to the same deadline as
an adjudicatory proceeding.
01:59:16.550 --> 01:59:18.950
So in this case, the
original statutory deadline
01:59:18.950 --> 01:59:21.640
was August 5th, 2020.
01:59:21.640 --> 01:59:24.210
The deadline was
subsequently extended twice due
01:59:24.210 --> 01:59:27.100
to difficult workload
issues in the ALJ division
01:59:27.100 --> 01:59:31.080
and is now December 18th, 2020.
01:59:31.080 --> 01:59:32.590
The previous extensions were
01:59:32.590 --> 01:59:35.840
for short durations as
requested by the ALJ.
01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:38.130
However, that timing was not adequate
01:59:38.130 --> 01:59:39.730
to complete the proceeding.
01:59:39.730 --> 01:59:41.810
So for this extension we wanted
01:59:41.810 --> 01:59:44.000
to provide a little more time
01:59:45.021 --> 01:59:46.870
for the judge to complete the decision
01:59:46.870 --> 01:59:49.040
and for the Commission to deliberate.
01:59:49.040 --> 01:59:51.040
So this order extends the deadline
01:59:51.040 --> 01:59:54.450
by six months to June 30th, 2020.
01:59:54.450 --> 01:59:56.283
I ask for your support, thank you.
01:59:57.940 --> 01:59:59.270
Thank you,
Commissioner Randolph.
01:59:59.270 --> 02:00:01.223
Are there any questions or comments?
02:00:02.940 --> 02:00:05.120
Okay, seeing none will
the agenda clerk please
02:00:05.120 --> 02:00:06.420
call the roll for item 55?
02:00:08.668 --> 02:00:10.205
Commissioner shiroma.
02:00:10.205 --> 02:00:11.793
Aye.
02:00:11.793 --> 02:00:13.916
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:00:13.916 --> 02:00:15.190
Aye.
02:00:15.190 --> 02:00:16.140
Randolph.
02:00:17.120 --> 02:00:18.710
Yes.
02:00:18.710 --> 02:00:20.460
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:00:20.460 --> 02:00:21.293
Yes.
02:00:22.515 --> 02:00:23.870
President Batjer.
02:00:23.870 --> 02:00:26.410
Yes, item 55 is
passed unanimously.
02:00:26.410 --> 02:00:30.633
Moving on to item 56,
Mr. Shiroma, that is your item.
02:00:32.100 --> 02:00:33.740
Yes, thank you,
President Batjer.
02:00:33.740 --> 02:00:38.440
So items 56 is an
essential order involving
02:00:38.440 --> 02:00:40.910
a proceeding that establishes the list
02:00:40.910 --> 02:00:44.820
of existing rail
crossings for fiscal years
02:00:44.820 --> 02:00:49.790
2020 to 2021 and 2021 to 2022.
02:00:51.200 --> 02:00:56.200
This is a routine efforts
by the Commission in terms
02:00:56.980 --> 02:01:01.040
of coordinating with all of the entities
02:01:01.040 --> 02:01:04.980
that are involved in rail crossings.
02:01:04.980 --> 02:01:08.500
Next, I'm asking for the extension to go
02:01:08.500 --> 02:01:13.500
from December 28th, 2020
to June 30th of next year.
02:01:14.910 --> 02:01:19.910
What happened is that as
the COVID stay at home hit,
02:01:20.350 --> 02:01:24.420
we canceled the in-person
pre-hearing conference.
02:01:24.420 --> 02:01:29.420
We have held that by
phone, which worked very well
02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:32.790
during which each
nominating party is afforded
02:01:32.790 --> 02:01:36.440
an opportunity to present
their project nominations.
02:01:36.440 --> 02:01:40.660
Now, after that, the
rail safety division
02:01:40.660 --> 02:01:45.660
finalized the 2021 priority
list to include 36 nominations
02:01:46.830 --> 02:01:49.690
all projects submitted
were found to be qualified.
02:01:49.690 --> 02:01:53.730
And then the Commission
back in June of 2020,
02:01:53.730 --> 02:01:56.150
adopted an interim decision,
02:01:56.150 --> 02:01:58.800
which has adopted that
priority list for purposes
02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:03.743
of allocating funds in the
California grade separation fund.
02:02:05.090 --> 02:02:09.177
Meanwhile, we need to proceed with the,
02:02:11.140 --> 02:02:14.640
a proposed decision but
the extension will provide
02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:19.640
for an opportunity
to consider the record
02:02:20.570 --> 02:02:22.980
to assure that we've got all
02:02:22.980 --> 02:02:25.790
of the box checked and then to provide
02:02:25.790 --> 02:02:28.670
for a final decision to
resolve this proceeding.
02:02:28.670 --> 02:02:29.503
Thank you.
02:02:33.420 --> 02:02:35.550
Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:02:35.550 --> 02:02:37.280
Any comments or questions
02:02:37.280 --> 02:02:39.793
of Commissioner Shiroma on item 56?
02:02:41.160 --> 02:02:44.090
Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk
02:02:44.090 --> 02:02:45.140
please call the roll.
02:02:46.444 --> 02:02:48.158
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:02:48.158 --> 02:02:48.991
Aye.
02:02:49.850 --> 02:02:52.143
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:02:52.143 --> 02:02:53.726
Aye.
02:02:53.726 --> 02:02:55.119
Commissioner Randolph.
02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:56.023
Yes.
02:02:57.358 --> 02:02:59.340
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:02:59.340 --> 02:03:00.173
Yes.
02:03:01.033 --> 02:03:02.640
President Batjer.
02:03:02.640 --> 02:03:05.590
Yes, the vote is
unanimous for item 56.
02:03:05.590 --> 02:03:08.290
Moving on to item 57, that is mine.
02:03:08.290 --> 02:03:10.770
This order extending
statutory deadline is
02:03:10.770 --> 02:03:15.770
for application 18-03-009
Southern California Edison
02:03:17.420 --> 02:03:19.080
and the San Diego Gas and Electric
02:03:19.080 --> 02:03:21.720
2018 nuclear deCommissioning
02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:24.070
of the Cost Triennial Proceeding.
02:03:24.070 --> 02:03:26.160
The purpose of this
reoccurring proceedings
02:03:26.160 --> 02:03:29.180
is to set the annual
revenue requirements
02:03:29.180 --> 02:03:31.060
for the deCommissioning trust
02:03:31.060 --> 02:03:34.303
for the nuclear power plants
owned by SCE, SDG&E.
02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:38.670
And to determine,
whether actual expenditures
02:03:38.670 --> 02:03:41.280
by the utilities for
deCommissioning activities
02:03:41.280 --> 02:03:43.350
are reasonable and prudent.
02:03:43.350 --> 02:03:45.580
In September, 2019,
the Commission issued
02:03:45.580 --> 02:03:47.160
a phase one decision,
02:03:47.160 --> 02:03:50.690
on the nuclear fuel cancellation
class and requirements
02:03:50.690 --> 02:03:54.330
on the Palo Verde
Nuclear Generating Station,
02:03:54.330 --> 02:03:55.930
deCommissioning class estimates.
02:03:57.010 --> 02:04:00.460
Reef and reply briefs
were filed in March of 2020
02:04:01.442 --> 02:04:03.370
and the Administrative
Law Judge Robert Heggie
02:04:03.370 --> 02:04:06.983
who is currently drafting
phase two proposed decision.
02:04:07.820 --> 02:04:12.150
An extension of the statutory
deadline to June 19th, 2021
02:04:12.150 --> 02:04:14.600
is necessary to allow enough time
02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:16.470
to issue a proposed decision
02:04:16.470 --> 02:04:18.560
for public review and comments,
02:04:18.560 --> 02:04:20.800
and to allow, the Commission enough time
02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:24.070
to deliberate an
issue its final decision.
02:04:24.070 --> 02:04:25.933
is that I asked for your support.
02:04:27.150 --> 02:04:28.950
Are there any questions or comments?
02:04:30.100 --> 02:04:32.020
Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk,
02:04:32.020 --> 02:04:33.083
please call the roll?
02:04:34.110 --> 02:04:35.930
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:04:35.930 --> 02:04:37.500
Aye.
02:04:37.500 --> 02:04:39.321
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:04:39.321 --> 02:04:40.407
Aye.
02:04:40.407 --> 02:04:42.636
Commissioner Randolph.
02:04:42.636 --> 02:04:43.583
Yes.
02:04:45.037 --> 02:04:46.760
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:48.350
Yes.
02:04:48.350 --> 02:04:50.120
President Batjer.
02:04:50.120 --> 02:04:53.620
Yes, the vote on
item 57 is unanimous.
02:04:53.620 --> 02:04:54.870
Thank you.
02:04:54.870 --> 02:04:59.003
We're now moving on to item
58, Commissioner Randolph.
02:05:01.690 --> 02:05:06.410
Okay, this is a order
instituting rulemaking
02:05:06.410 --> 02:05:08.120
on frontier service quality
02:05:08.120 --> 02:05:10.923
and disclosure of customer information.
02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:15.010
This proposed decision
would extend the current
02:05:15.010 --> 02:05:19.490
statutory deadline to March 19th, 2021
02:05:19.490 --> 02:05:21.700
which is hopefully way
more than we will need to
02:05:21.700 --> 02:05:24.950
because there was a proposed
decision on this agenda
02:05:25.870 --> 02:05:27.590
but staff needed to hold it.
02:05:27.590 --> 02:05:30.570
And so we wanted to provide
02:05:30.570 --> 02:05:33.160
for this short extension to allow staff
02:05:33.160 --> 02:05:34.750
to do what they need to do
02:05:34.750 --> 02:05:38.500
and have the decision ready
for Commission consideration.
02:05:38.500 --> 02:05:41.180
So I ask for your support of this item,
02:05:41.180 --> 02:05:42.830
extending the statutory deadline.
02:05:44.930 --> 02:05:46.020
Thank you
Commissioner Randolph.
02:05:46.020 --> 02:05:47.883
Are there any questions or comments?
02:05:49.100 --> 02:05:51.060
Okay, seeing none, will
the agenda clerk please
02:05:51.060 --> 02:05:51.893
call the roll?
02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:54.610
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:05:54.610 --> 02:05:56.080
Aye.
02:05:56.080 --> 02:05:57.930
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:05:58.767 --> 02:05:59.600
Aye.
02:06:00.580 --> 02:06:02.430
Commissioner Randolph.
02:06:02.430 --> 02:06:03.263
Yes.
02:06:04.391 --> 02:06:06.248
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:06:06.248 --> 02:06:07.591
Yes.
02:06:07.591 --> 02:06:09.490
President Batjer.
02:06:09.490 --> 02:06:14.490
Yes, that's the vote
for item 58 is unanimous,
02:06:14.650 --> 02:06:17.250
moving to 59, item 59.
02:06:17.250 --> 02:06:19.350
Commissioner Randolph,
that is also yours.
02:06:20.480 --> 02:06:24.370
All right, this is an
extension order in the
02:06:24.370 --> 02:06:28.430
Sempra Safety Culture
Order Instituting Investigation.
02:06:28.430 --> 02:06:31.290
This extension order
relates to our investigation
02:06:31.290 --> 02:06:33.570
into the organizational
culture and governance
02:06:33.570 --> 02:06:35.520
of Southern California gas company
02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:38.250
and it's parent company Sempra Energy.
02:06:38.250 --> 02:06:40.000
And whether they are effectively able
02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:42.470
to prioritize safely safety
02:06:42.470 --> 02:06:45.740
and adequately direct resources
to promote accountability
02:06:45.740 --> 02:06:47.913
and achieve safety performance goals.
02:06:49.320 --> 02:06:52.170
This OII calls for Commission staff
02:06:52.170 --> 02:06:54.060
to produce a consultant's report
02:06:54.060 --> 02:06:57.900
evaluating SoCalGases,
culture governance,
02:06:57.900 --> 02:07:01.870
policies, practices and
accountability metrics
02:07:01.870 --> 02:07:04.683
after a string of
serious safety incidents.
02:07:05.560 --> 02:07:08.190
The phase one study
is currently underway,
02:07:08.190 --> 02:07:11.520
and we have a consultant who
has made significant progress
02:07:11.520 --> 02:07:15.170
on aspects of the study,
including document review
02:07:15.170 --> 02:07:18.270
virtual information
briefings, conversations
02:07:18.270 --> 02:07:21.350
and interviews with
company representatives.
02:07:21.350 --> 02:07:22.840
Unfortunately, this is an example
02:07:22.840 --> 02:07:25.970
of a proceeding that has
been significantly impacted
02:07:25.970 --> 02:07:28.070
by COVID-19.
02:07:28.070 --> 02:07:29.860
Assessing an organization's culture
02:07:29.860 --> 02:07:32.200
necessarily requires site visits,
02:07:32.200 --> 02:07:35.420
such as in-person
interviews and focus groups
02:07:35.420 --> 02:07:37.200
as well as direct observation
02:07:37.200 --> 02:07:40.400
of onsite work processes
and environments.
02:07:40.400 --> 02:07:43.040
And those activities have
been delayed due to the stay
02:07:43.040 --> 02:07:45.793
at home orders and social
distancing requirements.
02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:48.560
This work is expected to begin
02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:50.790
as soon as public health guidance allows
02:07:50.790 --> 02:07:54.330
for more safe travel and office access.
02:07:54.330 --> 02:07:56.990
We remain in continuing
contact with the consultant
02:07:56.990 --> 02:07:59.890
to assess ways that the
work can move forward.
02:07:59.890 --> 02:08:01.880
But given current circumstances,
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:04.560
and uncertainty about access,
02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:07.890
we believe it is reasonable to
extend the statutory deadline
02:08:07.890 --> 02:08:12.890
for phase one of this proceeding
to December 31st, 2021.
02:08:13.670 --> 02:08:15.230
And I will just wanna take a moment
02:08:15.230 --> 02:08:17.550
to thank our safety policy division
02:08:17.550 --> 02:08:21.600
and legal division team
along with ALJ Jessica Hecht
02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:23.460
for their continued efforts to try
02:08:23.460 --> 02:08:26.020
to keep this proceeding moving along.
02:08:26.020 --> 02:08:26.853
Thank you.
02:08:28.430 --> 02:08:30.320
Excellent, tank you.
02:08:30.320 --> 02:08:33.883
Are there any comments
or questions of secretary...
02:08:35.100 --> 02:08:39.303
Commissioner Randolph on item 59?
02:08:40.793 --> 02:08:43.587
I said revert it back to my old role.
02:08:43.587 --> 02:08:44.800
(President Batjer laughs)
02:08:44.800 --> 02:08:47.160
Seeing that-- Exactly,
getting a new job
02:08:47.160 --> 02:08:49.906
in the Biden
administration for a moment.
02:08:49.906 --> 02:08:51.390
(President Batjer laughs)
02:08:51.390 --> 02:08:53.385
I know, why not?
02:08:53.385 --> 02:08:54.780
(President Batjer laughs)
02:08:54.780 --> 02:08:57.960
Okay, item 59, will the agenda clerk
02:08:57.960 --> 02:08:59.010
please call the roll.
02:09:00.240 --> 02:09:01.952
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:09:01.952 --> 02:09:03.400
Aye.
02:09:03.400 --> 02:09:05.429
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:09:05.429 --> 02:09:06.741
Aye.
02:09:06.741 --> 02:09:07.813
Randolph.
02:09:08.810 --> 02:09:10.350
Yes.
02:09:10.350 --> 02:09:12.490
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:09:12.490 --> 02:09:13.870
Yes.
02:09:13.870 --> 02:09:15.220
President Batjer.
02:09:21.679 --> 02:09:22.512
President Batjer.
02:09:24.150 --> 02:09:26.100
Sorry, I was on mute.
02:09:26.100 --> 02:09:30.773
Yes, so with that item
59 is passed unanimously.
02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:35.930
Moving on to item 60,
it relates to item eight
02:09:35.930 --> 02:09:39.210
on the Consent Agenda
and item eight was approved.
02:09:39.210 --> 02:09:41.863
So item 60, will we withdrawn.
02:09:43.289 --> 02:09:48.163
Item 61, also related to item 41
02:09:49.290 --> 02:09:52.720
on the Consent Agenda
and item 41 was approved.
02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:55.820
So this item 61 is withdrawn.
02:09:55.820 --> 02:10:00.820
So then our final item is
item 62 and that is mine.
02:10:00.920 --> 02:10:03.480
This order extending
statutory deadline is
02:10:03.480 --> 02:10:08.250
for rulemaking 18-10-007.
02:10:08.250 --> 02:10:12.290
Implementation of utility
wildfire mitigation plans.
02:10:12.290 --> 02:10:15.220
This proceeding was
open to review the 2019
02:10:15.220 --> 02:10:17.037
wildfire mitigation plans
02:10:17.037 --> 02:10:19.280
for the California electric utilities
02:10:19.280 --> 02:10:21.243
and independent transmission owners.
02:10:22.442 --> 02:10:23.900
Through a series of decisions,
02:10:23.900 --> 02:10:27.460
The Commission acted on
the 2019 wildfire mitigation plans
02:10:27.460 --> 02:10:30.290
for all electrical corporations.
02:10:30.290 --> 02:10:34.290
Assembly Bill 1054, moved approval
02:10:34.290 --> 02:10:35.890
of the wildfire mitigation plans
02:10:35.890 --> 02:10:39.570
to the Commission's
New wildfire safety division.
02:10:39.570 --> 02:10:43.300
Utilities 2020 wildfire
mitigation plans were addressed
02:10:43.300 --> 02:10:46.343
by series of wildfire
safety division resolutions.
02:10:47.876 --> 02:10:50.910
Most issues from this
proceeding have transitioned
02:10:50.910 --> 02:10:53.020
to the wildfire safety division.
02:10:53.020 --> 02:10:55.350
In recent Administrative
Law Judge ruling
02:10:55.350 --> 02:10:58.400
requested party
comment on the disposition
02:10:58.400 --> 02:11:02.360
of phase two issues
02:11:02.360 --> 02:11:05.093
and contemplate closing this proceeding.
02:11:05.970 --> 02:11:08.240
This decision extends
a statutory deadline
02:11:08.240 --> 02:11:11.350
in this proceeding to June 30, 2021
02:11:11.350 --> 02:11:14.375
to address the remaining
phase two issues.
02:11:14.375 --> 02:11:15.208
And with that,
02:11:15.208 --> 02:11:18.430
I request your support of this item 62.
02:11:18.430 --> 02:11:20.230
Are there any questions or comments?
02:11:21.630 --> 02:11:23.410
Okay, Seeing none will be agenda clerk
02:11:23.410 --> 02:11:24.483
please call the roll?
02:11:25.410 --> 02:11:27.410
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:11:27.410 --> 02:11:29.010
Aye.
02:11:29.010 --> 02:11:31.301
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:11:31.301 --> 02:11:32.134
Aye.
02:11:33.180 --> 02:11:35.270
Commissioner Randolph.
02:11:35.270 --> 02:11:36.890
Yes.
02:11:36.890 --> 02:11:38.768
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:11:38.768 --> 02:11:39.601
Yes.
02:11:41.013 --> 02:11:42.210
President Batjer.
02:11:42.210 --> 02:11:47.210
Yes, the item, item 62
is passed unanimously.
02:11:47.240 --> 02:11:48.310
Thank you all very much
02:11:48.310 --> 02:11:52.080
that completes our
regular agenda review.
02:11:52.080 --> 02:11:55.210
I am going to call a
lunch break or 45 minutes.
02:11:55.210 --> 02:11:58.740
It's 12:30, let's be back at 1:15.
02:11:58.740 --> 02:11:59.573
Thank you all.
02:12:15.224 --> 02:12:17.724
(indistinct)
02:12:18.980 --> 02:12:19.880
Thank you
all for standing by
02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:21.740
today's conference has resumed.
02:12:21.740 --> 02:12:23.440
President Batjer, you may proceed.
02:12:24.700 --> 02:12:25.833
Thank you, Operator.
02:12:26.930 --> 02:12:29.080
We need to establish a quorum.
02:12:29.080 --> 02:12:31.280
Could the agenda
clerk please call the roll.
02:12:32.650 --> 02:12:34.280
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:12:34.280 --> 02:12:35.760
Present.
02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:38.808
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:12:38.808 --> 02:12:39.641
Yeah.
02:12:39.641 --> 02:12:41.295
Commissioner Randolph.
02:12:41.295 --> 02:12:42.128
Yeah.
02:12:43.049 --> 02:12:44.970
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:12:44.970 --> 02:12:45.803
Present.
02:12:47.177 --> 02:12:49.414
President Batjer.
02:12:49.414 --> 02:12:51.586
Yes, everyone is here.
02:12:51.586 --> 02:12:53.990
We have established a quorum.
02:12:53.990 --> 02:12:55.640
For management reports today,
02:12:55.640 --> 02:12:58.000
or for item 63 report on the discussion
02:12:58.000 --> 02:12:59.490
of recent consumer protections
02:12:59.490 --> 02:13:02.607
and safety activities management
report, the annual report.
02:13:02.607 --> 02:13:07.000
And for item 64 manager
report on administrative activities
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:08.400
there are no reports.
02:13:08.400 --> 02:13:10.850
So we will move now to
the Commissioner's report.
02:13:13.410 --> 02:13:18.360
And, this is a big
day for us, and it's--
02:13:18.360 --> 02:13:20.200
Wait, I have a question.
02:13:20.200 --> 02:13:22.923
I think I'm supposed to
do a retirement resolution?
02:13:24.252 --> 02:13:26.100
(indistinct) You
cannot have a question.
02:13:26.100 --> 02:13:28.360
What, Commissioner Randolph
02:13:28.360 --> 02:13:31.223
I think I'm supposed to
do a retirement resolution.
02:13:32.070 --> 02:13:34.840
I thought that
was coming later.
02:13:34.840 --> 02:13:35.750
Is that coming later?
02:13:35.750 --> 02:13:36.583
I don't know.
02:13:36.583 --> 02:13:37.900
Okay, I will follow your lead
02:13:37.900 --> 02:13:40.790
as long as you still
have it on your list.
02:13:40.790 --> 02:13:43.740
I don't know what order
we're doing everything in.
02:13:43.740 --> 02:13:45.690
Well, let me just
explain what we're doing,
02:13:45.690 --> 02:13:46.590
so everybody know.
02:13:46.590 --> 02:13:50.440
I thought my trusty colleague,
02:13:50.440 --> 02:13:53.303
Mr. Gomez had
explained this to everyone.
02:13:55.630 --> 02:13:57.670
I think he did,
but I think I forgot.
02:13:57.670 --> 02:13:58.990
that is totally my bad--
02:13:58.990 --> 02:14:02.040
Quite unbelievable, that's
the first time ever in life
02:14:02.040 --> 02:14:03.360
I think you've forgotten something.
02:14:03.360 --> 02:14:08.360
So, I will speak and do
my Commission reports first.
02:14:09.490 --> 02:14:12.003
Then we will turn to Cliff,
02:14:13.240 --> 02:14:15.550
and to Commissioner Rechtschaffen
02:14:15.550 --> 02:14:17.450
and then to Commissioner Guzman Aceves
02:14:18.410 --> 02:14:20.740
and then to Commissioner Shiroma.
02:14:22.010 --> 02:14:25.430
And then Rachel will say a few words,
02:14:25.430 --> 02:14:28.160
Rachel Peterson our
acting Executive Director,
02:14:28.160 --> 02:14:32.240
and then we will turn to
Commissioner Randolph
02:14:32.240 --> 02:14:35.170
to make her comments as well as
02:14:35.170 --> 02:14:39.563
to present a retirement certificate.
02:14:40.700 --> 02:14:42.163
Thank you.
02:14:42.163 --> 02:14:44.680
Okay, (President Batjer laughs)
02:14:44.680 --> 02:14:49.550
So, with that, I'm back
to my Commission report
02:14:49.550 --> 02:14:53.430
and I must say it's sort of difficult
02:14:53.430 --> 02:14:56.080
and I'm gonna do it without tearing up.
02:14:56.080 --> 02:14:58.150
I've practiced a couple of times.
02:14:58.150 --> 02:15:01.283
So I have to stick to a
script because I'm slumming.
02:15:02.660 --> 02:15:05.603
This is Commissioner
Randolph last voting meeting.
02:15:06.690 --> 02:15:08.410
And it's really is quite something
02:15:08.410 --> 02:15:13.410
because she has had
an extraordinary six years
02:15:14.120 --> 02:15:15.020
on the Commission.
02:15:16.900 --> 02:15:19.240
And we will be giving everybody
02:15:19.240 --> 02:15:24.240
an opportunity to say thank
you and express their wishes
02:15:24.430 --> 02:15:28.283
to this extraordinary
colleague in public service.
02:15:29.940 --> 02:15:31.680
As I said, it's both with joy
02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:33.660
and truly a heavy heart
02:15:33.660 --> 02:15:36.990
that we wish Commissioner
Randolph farewell
02:15:36.990 --> 02:15:39.670
and beyond good luck.
02:15:39.670 --> 02:15:42.520
As one of our public
commenter today said,
02:15:42.520 --> 02:15:44.603
he's depending on
you to save the planet.
02:15:46.200 --> 02:15:48.423
And I also think, we think you can.
02:15:51.369 --> 02:15:55.403
So, even this is your
last Commission meeting,
02:15:56.830 --> 02:15:59.950
it will allow us today,
take the opportunity
02:15:59.950 --> 02:16:04.900
to reflect on the numerous contributions
02:16:04.900 --> 02:16:07.000
that you have made to
Commission over the six years
02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:08.700
that you have been a Commissioner.
02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:14.920
And, those contributions have been many
02:16:17.180 --> 02:16:19.040
and they've been deep.
02:16:19.040 --> 02:16:20.870
They have been both in terms
02:16:20.870 --> 02:16:25.750
of your intellect and the
depth of your intellect,
02:16:25.750 --> 02:16:30.400
the depth of your
ability to get to the heart
02:16:31.480 --> 02:16:33.960
of the matter before you,
02:16:33.960 --> 02:16:38.060
with both of legal mind
and with a practical mind
02:16:38.060 --> 02:16:41.190
and with your eye out
always for the rate payer
02:16:41.190 --> 02:16:42.313
and what is right.
02:16:43.930 --> 02:16:45.963
Is a rare combination my friend,
02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:50.810
I must say, in so many levels
02:16:50.810 --> 02:16:52.573
I will dearly miss you.
02:16:54.940 --> 02:16:58.790
However, Californians are very fortunate
02:16:58.790 --> 02:17:01.670
because you will be
able to save the world
02:17:01.670 --> 02:17:05.453
as the incoming chair of the
California Air Resources Board.
02:17:06.530 --> 02:17:08.430
I applaud our Governor
02:17:08.430 --> 02:17:12.013
for such an incredible
choice that he made in you.
02:17:13.540 --> 02:17:17.020
And I am sure that you're
the same professionalism
02:17:17.870 --> 02:17:21.660
intelligence and compassion
that you've demonstrated here
02:17:21.660 --> 02:17:26.600
at the Commission for over
these years will carry you well
02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:28.393
in your new role at CARB.
02:17:30.650 --> 02:17:33.093
On a personal note as
a colleague and a friend,
02:17:34.190 --> 02:17:35.770
I cherish that.
02:17:35.770 --> 02:17:38.570
Liane has been someone who has guided me
02:17:38.570 --> 02:17:42.962
and given me her
perspective and taught me
02:17:42.962 --> 02:17:47.962
and all along has been so
patient in sharing her knowledge.
02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:56.040
And I think we were sort
of in the foxhole together.
02:17:58.388 --> 02:18:01.494
Ms. Shiroma, he has
an incredible background
02:18:01.494 --> 02:18:06.494
in all aspects of energy in particular,
02:18:06.670 --> 02:18:09.500
our integrated resource planning
02:18:09.500 --> 02:18:14.500
and our demand response
programs and our resource adequacy.
02:18:16.970 --> 02:18:19.983
So when the (indistinct)
storms of August hit,
02:18:22.472 --> 02:18:26.143
and we were in such a
situation where customers
02:18:27.160 --> 02:18:31.010
were experiencing from
the IOUs rolling blackouts
02:18:33.050 --> 02:18:35.803
Liane and I were at the wheel together.
02:18:36.760 --> 02:18:39.960
And it was her wisdom and her thoughts
02:18:39.960 --> 02:18:44.960
on this and her deep knowledge
that helped guide me into...
02:18:45.630 --> 02:18:49.310
In the experience that I
have never had before
02:18:49.310 --> 02:18:51.610
and hope never to have again.
02:18:51.610 --> 02:18:55.040
And that is having people's
power turned off due
02:18:55.040 --> 02:18:56.803
to a lack of resources.
02:18:57.920 --> 02:19:02.920
And as I started to
make a military analogy,
02:19:02.930 --> 02:19:05.490
I think once you're in
the foxhole with somebody
02:19:05.490 --> 02:19:08.453
and you've gone through the
battle, you're forever bonded.
02:19:09.430 --> 02:19:12.700
And, I'm only using this
02:19:12.700 --> 02:19:17.560
as one example of the
tremendous contribution
02:19:17.560 --> 02:19:21.630
and dedication that
Liane Randolph has made
02:19:21.630 --> 02:19:24.683
not only to the PUC, but
to the people of California.
02:19:26.650 --> 02:19:29.850
They're extraordinary, my
friend, and I'm gonna miss you.
02:19:29.850 --> 02:19:31.370
I don't even wanna think about it.
02:19:31.370 --> 02:19:34.363
I've been fighting it since August.
02:19:35.706 --> 02:19:37.130
I will not have you.
02:19:37.130 --> 02:19:42.130
We will not have more
thoughtfulness your big brain
02:19:42.650 --> 02:19:44.763
and your big heart on our side.
02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:48.067
So thank you so much, that's the,
02:19:50.012 --> 02:19:53.290
I will now turn to my
fellow Commissioners
02:19:53.290 --> 02:19:55.763
for some comments and
their Commissioner reports.
02:19:56.651 --> 02:19:58.610
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:19:58.610 --> 02:20:02.670
Thank you, Liane, all
these accolades you're getting
02:20:02.670 --> 02:20:04.353
are very richly deserved.
02:20:06.300 --> 02:20:10.690
I've also, I've had the
pleasure of working with you.
02:20:10.690 --> 02:20:12.620
Well, maybe being in the foxhole,
02:20:12.620 --> 02:20:14.740
on the foxhole with you
02:20:14.740 --> 02:20:17.610
for the past 10 years when I
was in the Governor's office.
02:20:17.610 --> 02:20:19.300
And you were in the resources agency
02:20:19.300 --> 02:20:22.780
in this for the past four
years that we've been
02:20:22.780 --> 02:20:24.810
on the Commission together.
02:20:24.810 --> 02:20:29.430
And I'm very happy that
you're staying in that big tent
02:20:29.430 --> 02:20:32.310
of California government
and that we can get
02:20:32.310 --> 02:20:37.310
to work on climate and
clean energy issues together.
02:20:37.800 --> 02:20:40.120
Actually, it's always been
my dream to have someone
02:20:40.120 --> 02:20:43.620
at the Air Resources board
who understands the relationship
02:20:43.620 --> 02:20:48.300
between net qualifying
capacity and loss of load analysis.
02:20:48.300 --> 02:20:51.263
And now that dream has been
realized with you at the helm.
02:20:52.580 --> 02:20:57.580
But, you will be a fantastic
leader of that organization.
02:21:00.160 --> 02:21:03.980
Over the years, among many things
02:21:03.980 --> 02:21:07.610
I've come to realize
just how uber competent
02:21:07.610 --> 02:21:11.580
and super professional you are.
02:21:11.580 --> 02:21:14.610
Someone who we can rely on.
02:21:14.610 --> 02:21:17.400
Everyone can rely on to get things done.
02:21:17.400 --> 02:21:18.780
And as President Batjer said,
02:21:18.780 --> 02:21:21.740
you've had a tremendous workload here,
02:21:21.740 --> 02:21:25.100
some of our most
difficult challenging cases
02:21:25.100 --> 02:21:26.530
and you've handled them all
02:21:26.530 --> 02:21:31.530
with great humility and a
lot of intellectual integrity.
02:21:33.500 --> 02:21:36.903
And you've worked through
them calmly and methodically.
02:21:37.900 --> 02:21:39.360
We've all benefited from that.
02:21:39.360 --> 02:21:43.400
You've been a fantastic
partner on the policy
02:21:43.400 --> 02:21:46.800
and governance committee
and on the litigation committee.
02:21:46.800 --> 02:21:49.700
And you have this incredible knack
02:21:49.700 --> 02:21:53.610
for getting to the
heart of issues quickly
02:21:53.610 --> 02:21:57.840
and then finding
pragmatic solutions to them.
02:21:57.840 --> 02:22:00.480
That's really amazing.
02:22:00.480 --> 02:22:04.200
I also wanna thank you for,
02:22:04.200 --> 02:22:05.280
along with President Batjer,
02:22:05.280 --> 02:22:07.170
I wanna thank you for all the advice
02:22:07.170 --> 02:22:09.730
and guidance you've given me,
02:22:09.730 --> 02:22:12.760
not just when I first
started to Commission,
02:22:12.760 --> 02:22:15.500
which was a lot, but
throughout the whole time,
02:22:15.500 --> 02:22:17.620
all along the way,
right up to the present,
02:22:17.620 --> 02:22:21.920
that's been very invaluable.
02:22:21.920 --> 02:22:25.503
So, lucky card we miss you, already.
02:22:26.340 --> 02:22:28.010
Good luck with everything.
02:22:32.300 --> 02:22:33.600
Thank you, Commissioner.
02:22:34.490 --> 02:22:38.600
We'll now turn to Commissioner,
02:22:38.600 --> 02:22:40.710
I believe, Guzman Aceves.
02:22:40.710 --> 02:22:43.510
Yeah, (indistinct) thank
you President Batjer.
02:22:43.510 --> 02:22:46.520
I have a cup of water
here for every a 10th
02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:47.570
of them and say here,
02:22:50.010 --> 02:22:52.740
but it's kind of amazing.
02:22:52.740 --> 02:22:55.050
I would say like cliff, you
know, we have the privilege
02:22:55.050 --> 02:22:58.170
of knowing who you
are before coming here.
02:22:58.170 --> 02:23:03.093
So now it hasn't been a
total of 10 years and I just...
02:23:04.660 --> 02:23:07.170
I'm so grateful for
everything that you've done
02:23:07.170 --> 02:23:10.043
for the state and for the friendship,
02:23:11.551 --> 02:23:14.070
of course, all the
guidance and even like
02:23:14.070 --> 02:23:16.277
how can I disagree with
somebody so many times
02:23:16.277 --> 02:23:19.070
and still like agree fundamentally
02:23:19.070 --> 02:23:20.763
on so many things as well.
02:23:21.650 --> 02:23:25.180
It's kind of this really
amazing relationship
02:23:25.180 --> 02:23:28.093
where you have given me so much respect,
02:23:28.960 --> 02:23:31.020
even in times of disagreement,
02:23:31.020 --> 02:23:33.603
which I just cherish forever.
02:23:34.890 --> 02:23:38.660
I saw you first negotiating
not just the climate,
02:23:38.660 --> 02:23:43.500
but maybe 52, which was at the time,
02:23:43.500 --> 02:23:45.870
an extraordinary policy
where we were finally
02:23:45.870 --> 02:23:48.280
as a state, making a true commitment
02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:51.840
to holding our native nations as equal.
02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:56.000
And you spoke two languages
when you were speaking
02:23:56.000 --> 02:23:59.190
to the largely a white
male sequel attorneys
02:23:59.190 --> 02:24:03.310
within the whole administration,
not just resources agency
02:24:04.631 --> 02:24:08.250
and some of the really tough
attorneys on the tribal side.
02:24:08.250 --> 02:24:09.680
So any how is this?
02:24:09.680 --> 02:24:14.680
It was my first of many instances
where you heard everyone
02:24:17.130 --> 02:24:19.840
you were able to speak
multiple languages
02:24:19.840 --> 02:24:22.580
and come back together with a compromise
02:24:22.580 --> 02:24:25.870
that was really important and has still
02:24:25.870 --> 02:24:29.733
to this day created so
much impact across our state.
02:24:31.620 --> 02:24:33.555
I also just...
02:24:33.555 --> 02:24:35.740
I'm very excited for you
going to the Air board.
02:24:35.740 --> 02:24:40.080
I mean your commitment to
everything that we're working on,
02:24:40.080 --> 02:24:44.270
not just on, not just on
reducing greenhouse gases,
02:24:44.270 --> 02:24:48.670
but on adapting in the
pace we never thought
02:24:48.670 --> 02:24:50.310
we'd have to adapt to.
02:24:50.310 --> 02:24:54.440
You're gonna go there
knowing the impact of the great
02:24:54.440 --> 02:24:58.100
of that change more real
than maybe anybody else
02:24:58.100 --> 02:25:00.240
'cause (indistinct) prepared for them.
02:25:00.240 --> 02:25:03.210
And of course, your dedication
to disadvantaged communities
02:25:03.210 --> 02:25:05.373
in every single decision.
02:25:06.960 --> 02:25:08.150
I really like Cliff
02:25:08.150 --> 02:25:12.600
I'm looking forward to
the energy sector, chapters
02:25:12.600 --> 02:25:14.240
of the scoping plan,
02:25:14.240 --> 02:25:17.169
and how much more
detailed they're gonna be,
02:25:17.169 --> 02:25:19.650
and really challenging us appropriately.
02:25:19.650 --> 02:25:22.010
So I look forward to that challenge
02:25:22.010 --> 02:25:25.310
and I just look forward
to actually being able
02:25:25.310 --> 02:25:27.653
to talk to you and consult more with you
02:25:28.800 --> 02:25:32.180
because we will not have
seen that (indistinct) limitation.
02:25:32.180 --> 02:25:35.516
So, I love you very much, Liane
02:25:35.516 --> 02:25:37.463
and I thank you so
much for your service.
02:25:39.950 --> 02:25:41.350
Thank you so much, Martha.
02:25:42.720 --> 02:25:43.950
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:46.353
Thank you.
02:25:47.870 --> 02:25:51.430
Well, I joined my
colleagues in thanking you
02:25:52.320 --> 02:25:56.130
Commissioner Randolph,
for your service at the CPUC.
02:25:56.130 --> 02:25:59.890
We overlapped just under two years
02:25:59.890 --> 02:26:02.500
and I'm grateful for that time.
02:26:02.500 --> 02:26:05.680
Like you welcomed me warmly.
02:26:05.680 --> 02:26:09.533
And I soon learned what an
unassuming tight-knit you are.
02:26:11.480 --> 02:26:13.160
For presenting some of the most complex
02:26:13.160 --> 02:26:18.160
and difficult proceedings to
rules and procedures, reforms
02:26:18.640 --> 02:26:22.750
to methodically making
some significant progress
02:26:22.750 --> 02:26:24.650
on our journey to a cleaner grid
02:26:24.650 --> 02:26:27.350
and a cleaner greenhouse gas footprint
02:26:27.350 --> 02:26:30.020
and leading the SC-100 efforts
02:26:30.020 --> 02:26:32.360
and mentoring staff all along the way,
02:26:32.360 --> 02:26:36.520
including my chief of
staff, the warm testified.
02:26:36.520 --> 02:26:40.190
And a very fond memory
of you and your team,
02:26:40.190 --> 02:26:42.670
including your advisor, Mr. Wong,
02:26:42.670 --> 02:26:44.020
who we'll hear about later.
02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:50.690
This vision of you and your team winning
02:26:50.690 --> 02:26:54.343
from the (indistinct) on PI day with PI.
02:26:57.620 --> 02:26:59.860
So we are honored by
the Governor's appointment
02:26:59.860 --> 02:27:03.593
of you to be chairman of the
California Air Resources Board.
02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:08.393
There will be many
entry-level employees such
02:27:08.393 --> 02:27:12.090
as I was back in 1978,
and you weren't there in 70
02:27:12.090 --> 02:27:16.703
but back in 78, and I was
an entry level employee.
02:27:18.911 --> 02:27:21.920
There'll be people similar
to me who will be looking
02:27:21.920 --> 02:27:26.920
up to you as chairwoman
and will be inspired by you.
02:27:27.660 --> 02:27:31.163
And so in honor of
Commissioner Randolph,
02:27:32.160 --> 02:27:33.663
I have written a poem.
02:27:36.597 --> 02:27:41.043
"California is lifted by your service.
02:27:42.130 --> 02:27:43.723
We basked in your light.
02:27:45.530 --> 02:27:46.990
Congratulations, Liane.
02:27:46.990 --> 02:27:47.823
Thank you."
02:27:49.060 --> 02:27:50.170
Look forward to continue to work
02:27:50.170 --> 02:27:53.253
with you on Transportation
Network Company.
02:27:53.253 --> 02:27:56.430
(Commissioners laugh)
02:27:56.430 --> 02:27:57.670
Thank you.
02:27:57.670 --> 02:28:00.500
Thank you so much,
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:28:00.500 --> 02:28:04.795
Now at long last, I turned
to Commissioner Randolph
02:28:04.795 --> 02:28:10.760
for her own remarks,
as well as a presentation
02:28:10.760 --> 02:28:15.760
to a long standing incredible
employee of the Commission.
02:28:21.240 --> 02:28:24.690
Okay, all right.
02:28:24.690 --> 02:28:26.610
Let me gather myself for a moment here.
02:28:26.610 --> 02:28:31.470
Okay, so, first we get to honor Mr. Wong
02:28:33.010 --> 02:28:37.030
who started as my advisor,
02:28:37.030 --> 02:28:38.720
the day I walked in the door
02:28:40.200 --> 02:28:44.600
and he is retiring after over 34 years
02:28:44.600 --> 02:28:48.103
of dedicated service to the
people of state of California.
02:28:49.390 --> 02:28:52.770
And spent more than 18 years
02:28:52.770 --> 02:28:57.770
as a Commissioner advisor,
more than any other person.
02:28:59.130 --> 02:29:02.117
And he served Commissioners
Richard (indistinct),
02:29:04.410 --> 02:29:09.410
Gregory Conlan, Jerry,
I'm sorry, Henry Dukie,
02:29:10.010 --> 02:29:10.920
Michael Peevey.
02:29:10.920 --> 02:29:14.403
And then as I said, he was
there when I walked in the door.
02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:18.880
His, those of you who have worked
02:29:18.880 --> 02:29:22.270
with Lester know that
he has a deep knowledge
02:29:22.270 --> 02:29:27.270
of the telecommunications
industry, the water industry
02:29:27.390 --> 02:29:31.513
and is always an incredible
wealth of information.
02:29:32.660 --> 02:29:34.860
And he can tell you
anything you need to know
02:29:34.860 --> 02:29:38.710
about railroad crossings and variances,
02:29:38.710 --> 02:29:40.660
50 variances and things like that.
02:29:40.660 --> 02:29:45.453
And he's just a consummate advisor.
02:29:46.290 --> 02:29:50.540
And he knows the rules at
the PUC more than anyone.
02:29:50.540 --> 02:29:51.373
He can..
02:29:51.373 --> 02:29:53.510
He knows what a decision different is.
02:29:53.510 --> 02:29:55.040
He knows what a mod pot is.
02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:57.900
He can tell you all
these fuchsia table rules
02:29:57.900 --> 02:30:02.900
and is just able to
guide any Commissioner
02:30:02.930 --> 02:30:07.930
through any bizarre
complex procedural thing
02:30:08.220 --> 02:30:10.760
that we could think of.
02:30:10.760 --> 02:30:15.050
And he's just an incredibly kind warm
02:30:15.050 --> 02:30:20.050
and funny person who would
always bring us little souvenirs
02:30:20.280 --> 02:30:21.683
from his travels,
02:30:22.850 --> 02:30:27.700
was a huge fan of the sweet.
02:30:27.700 --> 02:30:31.480
And we'd bring sweets
in all the time for our
02:30:31.480 --> 02:30:34.643
what we affectionately
called our short staff meetings.
02:30:36.302 --> 02:30:38.620
And he introduced me
02:30:38.620 --> 02:30:43.620
to the wool gather in Bakersfield,
02:30:45.730 --> 02:30:48.830
the Basque restaurant
02:30:48.830 --> 02:30:51.820
that every time I am
anywhere near Bakersfield,
02:30:51.820 --> 02:30:54.370
I'm like, oh my gosh, I
have to go get some tongue.
02:30:55.400 --> 02:31:00.400
And so we just really appreciate so much
02:31:01.905 --> 02:31:06.905
his time warmth and
dedication to the people
02:31:08.080 --> 02:31:11.820
of California and his
well-deserved retirement.
02:31:11.820 --> 02:31:16.820
So best of luck, Lester, and
we will all miss you very much.
02:31:19.025 --> 02:31:22.442
(Commissioners clapping)
02:31:24.182 --> 02:31:25.660
Congratulations, Liane.
02:31:25.660 --> 02:31:27.810
I have to interrupt
02:31:27.810 --> 02:31:30.130
and I'm embarrassed to do this,
02:31:30.130 --> 02:31:35.130
but Rachel Pearson, our
acting Executive Director
02:31:35.270 --> 02:31:37.977
and your former chief of staff,
02:31:37.977 --> 02:31:40.700
has some remarks that she
would like to make as well.
02:31:40.700 --> 02:31:43.570
So before I turn it finally to you,
02:31:43.570 --> 02:31:45.950
and that was a lovely tribute to Lester
02:31:45.950 --> 02:31:49.000
I'm going to go back and turn to Rachel.
02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:50.650
And I apologize for that mistake.
02:31:54.430 --> 02:31:57.143
Okay, thank
you, President Batjer.
02:32:00.070 --> 02:32:02.190
And I just would like
to start off by saying
02:32:02.190 --> 02:32:05.690
that every heartfelt thing that
the Commissioner just said
02:32:05.690 --> 02:32:10.690
about Lester Wong, I share 110%.
02:32:12.160 --> 02:32:14.560
So, good afternoon Commissioners.
02:32:14.560 --> 02:32:17.630
I have the special
position and privilege
02:32:17.630 --> 02:32:19.520
of having worked for
Commissioner Randolph
02:32:19.520 --> 02:32:21.803
for five years as her chief of staff.
02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:26.430
And there are two stories
that I wanna tell that
02:32:26.430 --> 02:32:31.290
to me encapsulate her
and her term at the CPUC.
02:32:31.290 --> 02:32:33.573
The first is from the very start of it.
02:32:34.870 --> 02:32:38.560
Commissioner Randolph,
Liane, you were appointed
02:32:38.560 --> 02:32:42.240
by then Governor Jerry Brown
at the end of December, 2014
02:32:43.490 --> 02:32:47.730
just a couple of weeks
later in January, 2015,
02:32:47.730 --> 02:32:52.690
I walked with you into a
conference room at the CPUC where
02:32:52.690 --> 02:32:56.650
the other four Commissioners
were already deliberating
02:32:56.650 --> 02:32:59.760
on the enforcement and
penalty cases that stemmed
02:32:59.760 --> 02:33:04.340
from the PG&E natural
gas pipeline explosion
02:33:04.340 --> 02:33:06.143
and tragedy in San Bruno.
02:33:07.210 --> 02:33:09.980
They already had stacks and stacks
02:33:09.980 --> 02:33:12.860
of paper on the table about the cases.
02:33:12.860 --> 02:33:15.520
And those cases would eventually result
02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:17.265
in four different decisions
for the Commissioners
02:33:17.265 --> 02:33:20.933
to vote on and only a few months heads.
02:33:21.930 --> 02:33:26.363
I think there were easily several
hundred pages of material.
02:33:27.400 --> 02:33:30.400
I do remember distinctly the
other Commissioners looking
02:33:30.400 --> 02:33:33.223
up in surprise, as you took your seat.
02:33:34.180 --> 02:33:37.350
Here was the newest
Commissioner ready to deliberate
02:33:37.350 --> 02:33:41.290
on a case that had already
deeply shaken the CPUC
02:33:42.140 --> 02:33:44.710
and would have
consequences that reverberate
02:33:44.710 --> 02:33:46.203
even until today.
02:33:47.290 --> 02:33:49.770
I firmly believe that you had read most
02:33:49.770 --> 02:33:51.130
of those several hundred pages
02:33:51.130 --> 02:33:53.650
of draft decisions and
background material,
02:33:53.650 --> 02:33:57.050
even before you sat
down in the room that day.
02:33:57.050 --> 02:33:59.903
And that was one of my
first introductions to you.
02:34:00.930 --> 02:34:02.750
Your appointment was not even really
02:34:02.750 --> 02:34:03.950
in the rear view mirror.
02:34:03.950 --> 02:34:04.830
And there you did.
02:34:04.830 --> 02:34:06.313
You sat down to work.
02:34:08.400 --> 02:34:10.470
My other story is more
02:34:10.470 --> 02:34:15.210
of a collage about our
trips around California.
02:34:15.210 --> 02:34:16.850
This one is definitely bittersweet
02:34:16.850 --> 02:34:20.283
because COVID has
impacted us so severely.
02:34:21.990 --> 02:34:25.550
But on numerous road
trips over the years,
02:34:25.550 --> 02:34:28.990
we went and saw up close
the essential infrastructure
02:34:28.990 --> 02:34:31.150
that serves California,
02:34:31.150 --> 02:34:33.480
the desalination plants on the coast
02:34:33.480 --> 02:34:36.590
in Carlsbad energy storage projects
02:34:36.590 --> 02:34:41.370
and many places, the Diablo
Canyon nuclear power planta,
02:34:41.370 --> 02:34:45.430
gas and electricity control
operations, test rides
02:34:45.430 --> 02:34:47.810
in autonomous vehicles
02:34:47.810 --> 02:34:49.743
and the, to have to be rail loop.
02:34:50.880 --> 02:34:53.360
But, and this is similar
to what you just said
02:34:53.360 --> 02:34:56.330
about Lester, just as
important as seeing
02:34:56.330 --> 02:34:59.663
the infrastructure was the
food that we ate to sustain us.
02:35:00.510 --> 02:35:03.623
You kept control of the
steering wheel of the car.
02:35:04.460 --> 02:35:06.120
You never let anyone else drive,
02:35:06.120 --> 02:35:07.620
but, you were always ready
02:35:07.620 --> 02:35:12.620
for Luang or Sean, Lester
(indistinct), Suzanne Jason
02:35:13.320 --> 02:35:18.320
or to go Joanna or Jason
Houck to search up the spot to eat.
02:35:18.610 --> 02:35:21.300
And so, our adventures in food
02:35:21.300 --> 02:35:25.760
as a team included that
fast restaurant in Bakersfield,
02:35:25.760 --> 02:35:29.220
Pink Champagne Cake in San Luis Obispo,
02:35:29.220 --> 02:35:32.950
alternative sushi around the
corner from the CPUC office
02:35:32.950 --> 02:35:37.950
in downtown LA and a certain
Mexican stop and go place
02:35:39.280 --> 02:35:41.130
with the best mouses I've had in years,
02:35:41.130 --> 02:35:42.050
that I haven't been able
02:35:42.050 --> 02:35:44.693
to find somewhere outside of Sacramento.
02:35:46.680 --> 02:35:51.050
Thank you for everything you
did as a CPUC for six years.
02:35:51.050 --> 02:35:53.410
Thank you for the close
professional partnership
02:35:53.410 --> 02:35:55.050
that you and I shared.
02:35:55.050 --> 02:35:56.180
And that I know you shared
02:35:56.180 --> 02:35:59.420
with many staff around the Commission.
02:35:59.420 --> 02:36:01.210
I am so glad for California
02:36:01.210 --> 02:36:02.720
that we will continue to benefit
02:36:02.720 --> 02:36:05.560
from your talent and your leadership.
02:36:05.560 --> 02:36:06.393
Thank you.
02:36:08.880 --> 02:36:10.250
Thank you, Rachel.
02:36:10.250 --> 02:36:11.670
That was lovely.
02:36:11.670 --> 02:36:16.483
Now, turn to Liane for her
last Commissioner's report.
02:36:17.990 --> 02:36:21.423
All right, thanks everybody.
02:36:23.064 --> 02:36:25.890
So, for those of you who've
been following the Commission
02:36:25.890 --> 02:36:27.740
for the last six years, you will know
02:36:27.740 --> 02:36:31.890
that speeches are kind
of, not really my thing.
02:36:31.890 --> 02:36:35.310
I generally try to keep the
remarks short and to the point
02:36:35.310 --> 02:36:38.810
and I am forever forgetting
to think about something to do
02:36:38.810 --> 02:36:40.313
for Commissioner reports.
02:36:42.530 --> 02:36:44.960
But of course, it is the tradition
02:36:44.960 --> 02:36:47.913
at the CPUC to share some
parting words of wisdom.
02:36:48.920 --> 02:36:50.500
And if you're Carla Peterman
02:36:50.500 --> 02:36:53.010
you may even get a standing ovation.
02:36:53.010 --> 02:36:55.357
But fortunately there's no
standing ovations on WebEx.
02:36:55.357 --> 02:36:57.050
And so the bar is really low.
02:36:57.050 --> 02:36:58.143
So that's good.
02:36:59.960 --> 02:37:02.383
First, a few thank you's.
02:37:04.580 --> 02:37:06.120
First, you know, my colleagues here
02:37:06.120 --> 02:37:11.030
on the dias all through the
years have been amazing.
02:37:11.030 --> 02:37:14.250
Michael picker, Kathy
Sandoval, Mike Florio
02:37:14.250 --> 02:37:18.283
in my first years, and you all know,
02:37:20.661 --> 02:37:22.240
I have lots more to say
02:37:22.240 --> 02:37:24.910
about you at our staff farewell party
02:37:24.910 --> 02:37:29.910
but I would just summarize it by saying
02:37:30.600 --> 02:37:35.600
I have learned so much
from my colleagues here.
02:37:37.240 --> 02:37:41.133
I can't even tell you, you know,
02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:48.120
the smarts, the compassion
02:37:48.130 --> 02:37:52.310
the careful attention to
what's best for the public
02:37:52.310 --> 02:37:57.310
all four of you share
those basic components.
02:37:57.510 --> 02:38:02.510
And I think that the state
is so fortunate to have you
02:38:02.750 --> 02:38:07.170
and I wish people out
there understood more
02:38:07.170 --> 02:38:10.383
about what amazing
people the four of you are.
02:38:11.350 --> 02:38:16.030
And I have enjoyed almost every moment
02:38:16.030 --> 02:38:17.597
of working with all of you.
02:38:20.150 --> 02:38:25.830
And really briefly, I
wanna thank my office staff.
02:38:25.830 --> 02:38:28.190
Of course, Rachel Peterson
who I spent five years
02:38:28.190 --> 02:38:31.620
working with, who had just...
02:38:31.620 --> 02:38:33.320
Has an amazing sense of humor.
02:38:33.320 --> 02:38:35.880
She's incredibly diligent, hardworking,
02:38:35.880 --> 02:38:37.763
and just fun to be with.
02:38:38.970 --> 02:38:42.380
My cleanup batter, chief
of staff, Christine Powell,
02:38:42.380 --> 02:38:46.170
who somehow managed to
push our office over the finish line
02:38:46.170 --> 02:38:48.550
in the middle of a global pandemic
02:38:48.550 --> 02:38:50.660
and a reliability crisis
02:38:50.660 --> 02:38:54.170
and an incredibly long
list of TDS that we needed
02:38:54.170 --> 02:38:56.770
to get out the door
by the end of this year.
02:38:56.770 --> 02:39:01.730
And she did it and did
it with humor and care
02:39:01.730 --> 02:39:06.730
and brilliance and compassion,
and was just amazing.
02:39:09.110 --> 02:39:11.070
And my advisors over the years,
02:39:11.070 --> 02:39:14.810
Tom Glegola, Sean Simon, Leuwam Tesfai.
02:39:14.810 --> 02:39:17.480
Jason Howe, Joanna (indistinct)
02:39:17.480 --> 02:39:21.500
Suzanne Casazza, Anand
Durvasula, Jason Ortego,
02:39:21.500 --> 02:39:24.023
and of course, the
incomparable Lester Wong.
02:39:25.560 --> 02:39:28.320
And I think I'll end
the thank yous there
02:39:28.320 --> 02:39:30.380
because there are so
many other people to thank
02:39:30.380 --> 02:39:33.830
and I'm gonna do a lot
of it at the staff farewell
02:39:33.830 --> 02:39:35.380
but I just really wanted to make sure
02:39:35.380 --> 02:39:40.380
that my, had a moment
to share how much I'll miss
02:39:40.573 --> 02:39:43.333
my office team here at the Commission.
02:39:45.240 --> 02:39:48.480
Okay, so, for those of you
who are not as addicted
02:39:48.480 --> 02:39:50.280
to Twitter as I am,
02:39:50.280 --> 02:39:52.700
you may know that there's
a mini kerfuffle going on
02:39:52.700 --> 02:39:54.870
where Joe Biden's campaign manager
02:39:54.870 --> 02:39:57.120
Jennifer O'Malley Dillon referred
02:39:57.120 --> 02:40:00.300
to Republican senators
using a profane term,
02:40:00.300 --> 02:40:03.753
an entirely accurate term,
but profane, nonetheless.
02:40:05.010 --> 02:40:07.030
The context of that conversation was
02:40:08.570 --> 02:40:10.260
of that comment was a conversation
02:40:10.260 --> 02:40:15.260
between Jennifer Dylan
and Glenn and Doyle
02:40:16.020 --> 02:40:17.770
who's a writer who's married
02:40:17.770 --> 02:40:21.660
to Abby Wambach and has a
best-selling book called "Untamed"
02:40:21.660 --> 02:40:23.790
which full disclosure
I've never actually read
02:40:23.790 --> 02:40:25.030
but it seems really interesting.
02:40:25.030 --> 02:40:27.640
And so, I'm having
it on my reading list.
02:40:27.640 --> 02:40:29.240
But the thing that caught my attention
02:40:29.240 --> 02:40:30.977
is Glenn and Doyle mantra.
02:40:30.977 --> 02:40:33.037
"We can do hard things."
02:40:33.880 --> 02:40:35.270
That phrase jumped out at me because
02:40:35.270 --> 02:40:36.210
I have not heard
02:40:36.210 --> 02:40:38.230
that is a very cool mantra to have
02:40:38.230 --> 02:40:40.453
and very appropriate for this job.
02:40:41.340 --> 02:40:42.920
In my six years at the Commission
02:40:42.920 --> 02:40:46.830
I think we can fairly say
that we did hard things.
02:40:46.830 --> 02:40:48.590
We've increased our safety oversight
02:40:48.590 --> 02:40:50.690
and effectiveness substantially.
02:40:50.690 --> 02:40:51.950
We've put in processes
02:40:51.950 --> 02:40:55.040
in place to track safety
related spending to ensure
02:40:55.040 --> 02:40:58.960
that the spending matches
the GRC proposals.
02:40:58.960 --> 02:41:01.420
We've instituted the risk management...
02:41:01.420 --> 02:41:03.750
Risk assessment
management process to ensure
02:41:03.750 --> 02:41:05.500
that utilities are analyzing risk
02:41:05.500 --> 02:41:08.070
and prioritizing expenditures.
02:41:08.070 --> 02:41:09.500
We dramatically improved
02:41:09.500 --> 02:41:13.020
and expanded wildfire
safety mitigation plans
02:41:13.020 --> 02:41:15.690
and implemented the wildfire
safety division established
02:41:15.690 --> 02:41:16.853
by the legislature.
02:41:18.010 --> 02:41:21.280
That division not only has
established rigorous standards
02:41:21.280 --> 02:41:24.070
for the plans, but is
institutionalizing ways
02:41:24.070 --> 02:41:27.480
to look at outcomes,
not just the list of tasks
02:41:27.480 --> 02:41:29.593
but the effectiveness of those tasks.
02:41:30.480 --> 02:41:32.520
We now have a safety policy division,
02:41:32.520 --> 02:41:35.240
which is structured to go
beyond enforcement compliance
02:41:35.240 --> 02:41:37.430
and fines, and look at measures
02:41:37.430 --> 02:41:40.173
that will achieve results
in safety outcomes.
02:41:41.740 --> 02:41:42.980
When I started at the Commission
02:41:42.980 --> 02:41:44.470
our transportation enforcement
02:41:44.470 --> 02:41:47.410
and transportation licensing
groups were understaffed
02:41:47.410 --> 02:41:51.950
and had archaic structures to
process licensing paperwork.
02:41:51.950 --> 02:41:54.830
We built up that division's
analytical expertise
02:41:54.830 --> 02:41:56.810
and brought their
customer service methods
02:41:56.810 --> 02:41:59.250
into the 21st century.
02:41:59.250 --> 02:42:01.280
The legislature moved
some of our functions
02:42:01.280 --> 02:42:04.330
to other agencies like
the moving companies
02:42:04.330 --> 02:42:06.400
and our staff worked hard to ensure
02:42:06.400 --> 02:42:09.820
that those transitions
were smooth and effective.
02:42:09.820 --> 02:42:13.280
We approved a workable
reorganization plan for PG&E
02:42:13.280 --> 02:42:16.380
that includes an escalating
enforcement structure.
02:42:16.380 --> 02:42:19.720
We've continued our substantial
energy efficiency programs
02:42:19.720 --> 02:42:21.510
and introduced important changes
02:42:21.510 --> 02:42:23.920
like third-party administrators,
02:42:23.920 --> 02:42:27.370
the fuel substitution decision
to further both efficiency
02:42:27.370 --> 02:42:29.440
and buildings de-carbonization
02:42:29.440 --> 02:42:31.503
and a market transformation framework.
02:42:32.440 --> 02:42:35.060
We established the integrated
resource planning process
02:42:35.060 --> 02:42:36.710
and continue to make progress
02:42:36.710 --> 02:42:40.233
on any number of
clean energy initiatives.
02:42:41.780 --> 02:42:43.280
And of course, there
were things that we didn't
02:42:43.280 --> 02:42:45.610
anticipate when I started.
02:42:45.610 --> 02:42:49.660
The speed and scope of load
migration away from the IOUs
02:42:49.660 --> 02:42:52.950
and its effect on the
electricity procurement market
02:42:52.950 --> 02:42:54.400
has been dramatic.
02:42:54.400 --> 02:42:58.400
And we continue to find ways
to adjust to this new reality.
02:42:58.400 --> 02:43:00.740
We've seen the market
for electric vehicles
02:43:00.740 --> 02:43:03.500
increased substantially
with a wide variety
02:43:03.500 --> 02:43:06.300
of products available for many customers
02:43:06.300 --> 02:43:08.270
as we realized the huge opportunities
02:43:08.270 --> 02:43:10.633
for GHD reductions in that sector.
02:43:11.890 --> 02:43:16.170
And there's autonomous
vehicles driving around everywhere.
02:43:16.170 --> 02:43:18.873
And we had a global pandemic.
02:43:19.860 --> 02:43:21.670
But doing hard things is not just
02:43:21.670 --> 02:43:24.410
about policy and responding to crisis.
02:43:24.410 --> 02:43:27.350
It's also about moving
outside of your comfort zone
02:43:27.350 --> 02:43:30.510
and challenging yourself
to think differently.
02:43:30.510 --> 02:43:31.700
And here at the Commission
02:43:31.700 --> 02:43:33.640
that means challenging
ourselves to think
02:43:33.640 --> 02:43:38.120
about how we deliver our
services and engage our customers.
02:43:38.120 --> 02:43:40.330
I came to the Commission six years ago
02:43:40.330 --> 02:43:43.820
with a mission to improve CPUC process.
02:43:43.820 --> 02:43:47.910
And I wish I could say
that we were done with that
02:43:47.910 --> 02:43:50.883
but we still have a very long way to go.
02:43:51.900 --> 02:43:54.123
Some of these challenges are statutory.
02:43:56.290 --> 02:43:57.210
As a former chair
02:43:57.210 --> 02:43:59.120
of the Fair Political
Practices Commission,
02:43:59.120 --> 02:44:00.797
I've thought a lot about ethics rules
02:44:00.797 --> 02:44:03.920
and their effectiveness and ineffective.
02:44:03.920 --> 02:44:07.160
And things like the form
700 disclosure requirements
02:44:07.160 --> 02:44:10.540
and conflicts rules
are incredibly important
02:44:10.540 --> 02:44:12.393
and extremely effective.
02:44:13.590 --> 02:44:14.430
But I have to say,
02:44:14.430 --> 02:44:17.210
I'm not seeing the same
benefit and effectiveness
02:44:17.210 --> 02:44:18.950
when I look at the current structure
02:44:18.950 --> 02:44:22.250
of the experts here rules
in the public utilities code,
02:44:22.250 --> 02:44:24.830
particularly the equal time role.
02:44:24.830 --> 02:44:26.910
They really, after working
02:44:26.910 --> 02:44:29.130
under them for the last six years,
02:44:29.130 --> 02:44:31.670
I really feel like they
prevent us from engaging
02:44:31.670 --> 02:44:35.160
in collaborative and
interactive decision-making.
02:44:35.160 --> 02:44:37.610
And they even limit our
ability to communicate
02:44:37.610 --> 02:44:39.670
with the independent system operator
02:44:39.670 --> 02:44:41.340
because they're a party and proceedings
02:44:41.340 --> 02:44:43.490
that go to the heart
of our electric grid,
02:44:43.490 --> 02:44:46.240
which is why we need to have
close engagement with them
02:44:46.240 --> 02:44:49.930
and why we need to have
good communication with them.
02:44:49.930 --> 02:44:52.870
I recognize that all parties
don't have the same resources
02:44:52.870 --> 02:44:55.040
as others, and we as
public servants need
02:44:55.040 --> 02:44:56.590
to be aware of that.
02:44:56.590 --> 02:44:59.150
It's our ethical duty
to give all parties
02:44:59.150 --> 02:45:01.110
a fair portion of our time,
02:45:01.110 --> 02:45:03.620
but the rigid equal time
rules don't lend themselves
02:45:03.620 --> 02:45:07.130
to the flexibility of perhaps
meeting with a small group
02:45:07.130 --> 02:45:09.960
of parties who are most
engaged to try to hammer
02:45:09.960 --> 02:45:11.790
out the solutions.
02:45:11.790 --> 02:45:14.160
And that ends up leaving
the role to staff instead
02:45:14.160 --> 02:45:16.500
of the actual decision makers,
02:45:16.500 --> 02:45:18.340
which to my mind doesn't make sense
02:45:18.340 --> 02:45:20.143
from a public policy standpoint.
02:45:21.360 --> 02:45:23.970
And so we can't change
those rules ourselves
02:45:23.970 --> 02:45:25.980
but we can continue the work we've done
02:45:25.980 --> 02:45:28.130
to more effectively
engage with the public.
02:45:29.050 --> 02:45:32.070
We've tried continually
over the last several years
02:45:32.070 --> 02:45:36.030
to make our processes
more friendly and welcoming
02:45:36.030 --> 02:45:38.793
to parties who don't
participate in every proceeding.
02:45:40.104 --> 02:45:41.550
And I would be lying if I didn't express
02:45:41.550 --> 02:45:45.220
how utterly frustrating it
can be to propose new ideas
02:45:45.220 --> 02:45:47.630
and process changes and to be met
02:45:47.630 --> 02:45:49.490
with 15 different reasons why
02:45:49.490 --> 02:45:52.453
that particular change
can't possibly be made.
02:45:53.330 --> 02:45:57.380
And this reaction happens
not just from internal staff
02:45:57.380 --> 02:46:00.210
but from long time
parties who participate
02:46:00.210 --> 02:46:02.140
in our proceedings as well.
02:46:02.140 --> 02:46:03.590
So I really challenge all
02:46:03.590 --> 02:46:06.150
of us to move outside
of our comfort zone
02:46:06.150 --> 02:46:08.040
and be willing to do the hard things
02:46:08.040 --> 02:46:09.913
that make our processes better.
02:46:11.170 --> 02:46:13.640
We have made great strides,
02:46:13.640 --> 02:46:16.680
before the pandemic
we were hosting meetings
02:46:16.680 --> 02:46:18.150
all over the state.
02:46:18.150 --> 02:46:22.120
We were more frequently on
the road to increase our contacts
02:46:22.120 --> 02:46:25.510
with the community around the state.
02:46:25.510 --> 02:46:28.010
And we've really tried to
structure our proceedings
02:46:28.010 --> 02:46:31.330
in ways that encourage
more interactive exchange
02:46:31.330 --> 02:46:33.203
of ideas and problem solving.
02:46:35.240 --> 02:46:37.800
And I am so thankful that you
02:46:37.800 --> 02:46:40.030
as my colleagues have done this.
02:46:40.030 --> 02:46:41.750
Watching Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
02:46:41.750 --> 02:46:45.400
pushing us to rethink
about utility buildings...
02:46:45.400 --> 02:46:48.590
Billing practices, and the
challenges around disconnections
02:46:48.590 --> 02:46:50.940
and how they affect residents.
02:46:50.940 --> 02:46:52.800
Watching Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
02:46:52.800 --> 02:46:55.030
move the transportation electrification
02:46:55.030 --> 02:46:57.480
and extra proceedings in ways that take
02:46:57.480 --> 02:46:59.150
into account how we can ensure
02:46:59.150 --> 02:47:00.860
that the most vulnerable customers
02:47:00.860 --> 02:47:03.720
of us have the opportunities
to take advantage
02:47:03.720 --> 02:47:05.283
of these new technologies.
02:47:06.430 --> 02:47:08.910
Watching Commissioners
Shiroma spring into action
02:47:08.910 --> 02:47:11.650
with COVID and
working closely with staff
02:47:11.650 --> 02:47:13.800
and my other Commissioners to ensure
02:47:13.800 --> 02:47:15.760
that connectivity state available
02:47:15.760 --> 02:47:19.440
and increased for our communities.
02:47:19.440 --> 02:47:22.000
And watching President
Batjer work tirelessly
02:47:22.000 --> 02:47:25.660
to ameliorate the impacts of
public safety, power shutoff
02:47:25.660 --> 02:47:27.890
and hold the utilities
tightly accountable
02:47:27.890 --> 02:47:29.530
to their customers.
02:47:29.530 --> 02:47:32.053
You all have done the hard things.
02:47:33.580 --> 02:47:35.390
As you think about the next six years
02:47:35.390 --> 02:47:38.040
you'll have a whole
new set of challenges.
02:47:38.040 --> 02:47:39.340
You'll grapple with effects
02:47:39.340 --> 02:47:41.780
of climate change, reliability issues
02:47:41.780 --> 02:47:43.833
as the grid becomes more variable.
02:47:45.380 --> 02:47:49.010
Coping with replacing Diablo
and a tighter Western grid
02:47:49.010 --> 02:47:52.300
that has more competition
for renewable resources.
02:47:52.300 --> 02:47:53.760
Regulating water utilities
02:47:53.760 --> 02:47:58.760
with less supply and addressing
effectively the inequality
02:47:59.160 --> 02:48:02.820
in impacts and outcomes in the state.
02:48:02.820 --> 02:48:05.440
I won't be on the gas or the WebEx
02:48:05.440 --> 02:48:08.190
but I'll be working with
you closely in my new role.
02:48:08.190 --> 02:48:11.220
And I will be singing your
praises and cheering you
02:48:11.220 --> 02:48:13.400
on as loudly as possible,
02:48:13.400 --> 02:48:17.000
because I know more
than anyone that you can
02:48:17.000 --> 02:48:20.050
and you will do hard things, thanks.
02:48:24.134 --> 02:48:27.717
(Commissioners applausing)
02:48:37.400 --> 02:48:38.753
You guys are the best.
02:48:38.753 --> 02:48:41.013
(Shiroma laughs)
02:48:41.013 --> 02:48:44.262
(Commissioners applausing)
02:48:44.262 --> 02:48:46.650
(Commissioners laugh)
02:48:46.650 --> 02:48:48.410
You are the best.
02:48:48.410 --> 02:48:51.793
Thank you so much, Liane, oh my God.
02:48:53.050 --> 02:48:55.033
Are they, even speak at this point?
02:48:57.460 --> 02:49:02.460
Okay, with that, our public
meeting is now adjourned.
02:49:04.380 --> 02:49:07.850
Thank you all, wow.
02:49:07.850 --> 02:49:10.933
(Commissioners wave)