WEBVTT 00:00:00.282 --> 00:00:02.865 (upbeat music) 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:05.070 Welcome to the California 00:00:05.070 --> 00:00:06.780 Public Utilities Commission 00:00:06.780 --> 00:00:08.060 with voting meeting on this day, 00:00:08.060 --> 00:00:11.310 Thursday December 17th, 2020. 00:00:11.310 --> 00:00:12.660 Today's call is being recorded. 00:00:12.660 --> 00:00:15.560 If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:17.260 President Batjer, you may proceed. 00:00:18.150 --> 00:00:20.610 Thank you operator, good morning everyone. 00:00:20.610 --> 00:00:22.410 We need to establish a quorum. 00:00:22.410 --> 00:00:24.710 So will the agenda clerk please call the roll. 00:00:25.670 --> 00:00:27.430 Commissioner Shiroma. 00:00:27.430 --> 00:00:28.860 Present. 00:00:28.860 --> 00:00:30.950 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 00:00:30.950 --> 00:00:32.300 Here. 00:00:32.300 --> 00:00:34.070 Commissioner Randolph. 00:00:34.070 --> 00:00:35.610 Here. 00:00:35.610 --> 00:00:37.567 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 00:00:37.567 --> 00:00:39.027 Present. 00:00:39.027 --> 00:00:40.410 President Batjer. 00:00:40.410 --> 00:00:41.243 Here. 00:00:41.243 --> 00:00:44.140 Thank you, we have established a quorum. 00:00:44.140 --> 00:00:46.780 Welcome to the California Public Utilities Commission. 00:00:46.780 --> 00:00:47.990 I call this meeting, 00:00:47.990 --> 00:00:52.990 of December 17th, 2020 Public Agenda number 3477 to order. 00:00:54.180 --> 00:00:55.980 Due to the Coronavirus pandemic 00:00:55.980 --> 00:00:57.700 and the shelter in place order, 00:00:57.700 --> 00:01:00.790 we are conducting today's business meeting online 00:01:00.790 --> 00:01:03.090 and by remote participation. 00:01:03.090 --> 00:01:07.060 The meeting is streamed on the CPUC's website. 00:01:07.060 --> 00:01:08.310 You can view the meeting 00:01:08.310 --> 00:01:13.053 at www.adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc. 00:01:20.041 --> 00:01:22.910 Adminmonitor is one word. 00:01:22.910 --> 00:01:26.850 How they engage with is critical to the CPUC process. 00:01:26.850 --> 00:01:29.360 You will... If you wish to make a public comment 00:01:29.360 --> 00:01:33.737 dial into (800) 857-1917 00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:41.180 and enter passcode 9899501 and press star one. 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:45.780 You'll be placed into a queue 00:01:45.780 --> 00:01:47.550 and the operator will take your name 00:01:47.550 --> 00:01:50.100 and information if appropriate. 00:01:50.100 --> 00:01:52.230 You will be called upon to speak 00:01:52.230 --> 00:01:56.790 when we get to the public comment period in today's agenda. 00:01:56.790 --> 00:01:59.420 If you encountered difficulty calling 00:01:59.420 --> 00:02:01.460 into the public telephone line, 00:02:01.460 --> 00:02:04.693 please email votingmeetinghelp@cpuc@ca.gov. 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.073 Votingmeetinghelp is one word. 00:02:13.390 --> 00:02:16.440 Before we begin with our public comment today, 00:02:16.440 --> 00:02:18.140 I would like to share some thoughts 00:02:18.140 --> 00:02:20.580 with the CPUC community. 00:02:20.580 --> 00:02:22.300 At this time of year 00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:25.403 I am always led to reflect on love and hope. 00:02:26.810 --> 00:02:27.900 Like many of you, 00:02:27.900 --> 00:02:30.890 I associate this season with sharing moments 00:02:30.890 --> 00:02:33.483 with family, friends and colleagues. 00:02:34.450 --> 00:02:35.870 Even admits this current 00:02:35.870 --> 00:02:38.310 and challenging moment of the pandemic, 00:02:38.310 --> 00:02:40.223 these sentiments remain strong. 00:02:41.860 --> 00:02:44.320 For it is the love for those dear to me, 00:02:44.320 --> 00:02:46.313 which has kept me from seeing them. 00:02:47.320 --> 00:02:50.663 From seeing their smiles in person and embracing them. 00:02:51.740 --> 00:02:55.480 I see the surge in numbers of those who have become ill 00:02:55.480 --> 00:02:56.873 and those we have lost. 00:02:58.030 --> 00:03:00.830 What Southern California and the Ventral Valley 00:03:00.830 --> 00:03:03.543 are enduring breaks our hearts. 00:03:04.690 --> 00:03:08.473 I can not help continually ask, what can I do? 00:03:09.740 --> 00:03:11.570 I know that month after month, 00:03:11.570 --> 00:03:13.860 I have consistently suggested 00:03:13.860 --> 00:03:17.210 that we strictly follow the recommendations 00:03:17.210 --> 00:03:18.933 of our public health experts, 00:03:19.990 --> 00:03:21.780 but it is an understanding 00:03:21.780 --> 00:03:24.130 of what our loved ones mean to us. 00:03:24.130 --> 00:03:27.190 That has motivated me to ask then, 00:03:27.190 --> 00:03:31.500 and today for us to wear our masks, wash our hands, 00:03:31.500 --> 00:03:35.340 keep our distance and not gather with those outside 00:03:35.340 --> 00:03:36.463 of our own households. 00:03:37.949 --> 00:03:40.600 Some of these sacrifices are not painless 00:03:40.600 --> 00:03:42.590 as we all know too well, 00:03:42.590 --> 00:03:46.410 that sacrifice is an important form of love. 00:03:46.410 --> 00:03:49.720 And making these sacrifices will improve our chances 00:03:49.720 --> 00:03:52.650 of avoiding other forms of pain. 00:03:52.650 --> 00:03:54.263 And this is where hope comes in. 00:03:55.890 --> 00:03:58.630 Within our CPUC community, 00:03:58.630 --> 00:04:01.150 I have seen tremendous sacrifice 00:04:01.150 --> 00:04:04.410 as we have adapted our personal and professional lives 00:04:04.410 --> 00:04:06.900 throughout different stages of the pandemic. 00:04:06.900 --> 00:04:09.540 We have also continued to strive, 00:04:09.540 --> 00:04:11.080 to take care of one another 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.470 and to feel still fulfill our responsibilities 00:04:14.470 --> 00:04:15.623 to those we serve. 00:04:16.490 --> 00:04:18.310 During the better part of this year 00:04:18.310 --> 00:04:20.840 we have worked to mitigate the impacts 00:04:20.840 --> 00:04:25.030 of utility power shutoffs to enhance the safety cultures 00:04:25.030 --> 00:04:29.227 of our major utilities, to ensure reliable electricity 00:04:29.227 --> 00:04:32.520 for the state and to protect Californians 00:04:32.520 --> 00:04:36.673 and the negative economic impacts of COVID-19. 00:04:38.110 --> 00:04:39.870 We're doing our part and getting those 00:04:39.870 --> 00:04:42.390 we serve through this difficult moment 00:04:42.390 --> 00:04:45.370 and making sure the essential services they depend 00:04:45.370 --> 00:04:49.200 on will be part of propelling their lives 00:04:49.200 --> 00:04:52.523 once we begin to emerge from this pandemic. 00:04:53.660 --> 00:04:57.430 We are all planning and working towards better days. 00:04:57.430 --> 00:05:01.560 This is us, feeling hope, so please, 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.320 rest and reflect this holiday season. 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:07.530 There's so much work ahead before we realize all 00:05:07.530 --> 00:05:09.120 of our hopes. 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:10.900 Just think of where you will be 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:12.920 and what we will have accomplished 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.163 for the state and for ourselves in getting there. 00:05:17.540 --> 00:05:19.500 And most importantly, 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:22.630 think of the smiles you will see before you, 00:05:22.630 --> 00:05:27.630 and those you will embrace when that moment finally arrived. 00:05:27.850 --> 00:05:29.933 Happy holidays and thank you. 00:05:31.320 --> 00:05:34.313 At this time, we will now turn to public comments. 00:05:35.670 --> 00:05:38.340 Again, if you wish to make a public comment 00:05:38.340 --> 00:05:40.480 and you have already dialed 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:42.960 into the public comment telephone line, 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:45.800 please press star one to get 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.513 into the public comments queue. 00:05:48.999 --> 00:05:51.330 CPUC rules do not allow 00:05:51.330 --> 00:05:55.610 for parties in proceedings to speak about open proceedings. 00:05:55.610 --> 00:05:57.790 The public can make comments addressing items 00:05:57.790 --> 00:06:01.410 on the consent and regular agenda 00:06:01.410 --> 00:06:05.590 and including items not on today's agenda. 00:06:05.590 --> 00:06:09.310 Please note, that there will not be public comment 00:06:09.310 --> 00:06:14.310 on items 37, 38, 54, 58 00:06:15.660 --> 00:06:19.750 and all items on the closed session agenda. 00:06:19.750 --> 00:06:22.627 You will have two minutes to speak. 00:06:22.627 --> 00:06:24.070 Let me repeat that. 00:06:24.070 --> 00:06:27.070 You will have two minutes to speak. 00:06:27.070 --> 00:06:28.920 You will hear a bell. 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.510 You will hear a bell sound when your time is up. 00:06:32.510 --> 00:06:34.730 Please be mindful of other speakers 00:06:34.730 --> 00:06:37.573 in the queue and keep to your allotted time. 00:06:39.808 --> 00:06:43.090 With that guidance in mind, I will welcome today's speakers. 00:06:43.090 --> 00:06:46.950 I will now turn to the operator 00:06:46.950 --> 00:06:49.020 open the public comment, telephone lines. 00:06:49.020 --> 00:06:51.810 However, before we do open the line 00:06:51.810 --> 00:06:56.450 I do want to remind everyone 00:06:56.450 --> 00:07:01.330 that there will be a presentation this morning 00:07:01.330 --> 00:07:05.800 after we review the hold and change agenda items 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:07.420 by Edward Randolph, 00:07:07.420 --> 00:07:09.010 who is the Deputy Executive Director 00:07:09.010 --> 00:07:11.250 for Energy and Climate Policy. 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:16.250 The presentation will be on the 2021 electric rate impacts. 00:07:16.410 --> 00:07:20.310 So for those public interested people, 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:23.070 who are waiting online to speak, 00:07:23.070 --> 00:07:26.910 we will have a presentation on rate impacts this morning. 00:07:26.910 --> 00:07:29.600 just the heads-up and hopefully you'll be able 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.760 to stay up online and listen to his presentation. 00:07:33.760 --> 00:07:36.310 So, okay, Operator with that please open the lines. 00:07:38.180 --> 00:07:39.013 Thank you. 00:07:39.013 --> 00:07:41.130 The public comment line is now open. 00:07:41.130 --> 00:07:43.340 If you wish to speak during the public comment period 00:07:43.340 --> 00:07:45.550 please press star one unmute your phone 00:07:45.550 --> 00:07:47.010 and clearly record your name 00:07:47.010 --> 00:07:49.290 and organization when prompted. 00:07:49.290 --> 00:07:52.510 Our first caller is Barbara Stebbins, thank you, 00:07:52.510 --> 00:07:53.360 you may go ahead. 00:07:55.640 --> 00:07:57.040 Am I am unmuted? 00:07:58.580 --> 00:07:59.413 Can you hear me? 00:07:59.413 --> 00:08:00.440 We can hear you. 00:08:00.440 --> 00:08:02.410 Okay, thank you. 00:08:02.410 --> 00:08:06.320 I'm Barbara Stebbins with Local Clean Energy Alliance. 00:08:06.320 --> 00:08:11.320 I'm here today in support of the Reclaim Our Power movement. 00:08:11.740 --> 00:08:16.740 I am urging this Commission to prioritize energy resilience 00:08:17.770 --> 00:08:20.400 for frontline communities. 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:24.510 They are most impacted by the power shut off. 00:08:24.510 --> 00:08:27.240 They need to own and control 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.900 their own local energy resources 00:08:29.900 --> 00:08:32.020 such as microgrids. 00:08:32.020 --> 00:08:34.160 They should not have to partner 00:08:34.160 --> 00:08:39.010 with such parties as the investor on utilities. 00:08:39.010 --> 00:08:42.710 They except to have them connect microgrids 00:08:42.710 --> 00:08:43.973 to the greater grid. 00:08:45.130 --> 00:08:49.560 Track two, should prioritize the critical facilities 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:51.920 within communities, microgrids 00:08:51.920 --> 00:08:55.260 for these critical facilities 00:08:55.260 --> 00:08:58.210 such as hospitals, food banks 00:08:58.210 --> 00:09:02.723 and other community resources that are absolutely you know, 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:08.170 necessary for life within our communities. 00:09:08.170 --> 00:09:12.070 This is an opportunity for this Commission to really show 00:09:12.070 --> 00:09:16.490 that it is aware of its primary duty 00:09:16.490 --> 00:09:19.110 which is to protect the people 00:09:19.110 --> 00:09:23.710 of California and energy resources to those people. 00:09:23.710 --> 00:09:24.543 Thank you. 00:09:26.630 --> 00:09:28.220 Thank you, Ms. Stebbins. 00:09:28.220 --> 00:09:29.870 Operator the next caller, please. 00:09:31.820 --> 00:09:32.653 Our next caller 00:09:32.653 --> 00:09:34.900 is Pastor Brian K. Woodson Senior. 00:09:34.900 --> 00:09:35.900 So you may go ahead. 00:09:37.516 --> 00:09:39.380 Thank you so much. 00:09:39.380 --> 00:09:42.060 This is Reverend Brian K. Woodson Senior. 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:42.990 I am the President 00:09:42.990 --> 00:09:45.420 of the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance. 00:09:45.420 --> 00:09:48.570 I am the Director of Clergy Development 00:09:48.570 --> 00:09:50.780 at Faith in Action East Bay, 00:09:50.780 --> 00:09:53.930 which is a PICO network Federation. 00:09:53.930 --> 00:09:58.930 I am calling on behalf of our pastors and congregations 00:09:59.090 --> 00:10:02.720 to ask you to freeze the rates 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.593 for all of our consumers at this time. 00:10:06.597 --> 00:10:10.210 The COVID pandemic has wreaked havoc 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:12.960 on the people that we serve. 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:17.250 And I am seeing, and we are cautious and worried 00:10:17.250 --> 00:10:22.250 about the upcoming possible evictions 00:10:22.750 --> 00:10:26.170 and the people that are our members 00:10:26.170 --> 00:10:27.660 are strapped financially. 00:10:27.660 --> 00:10:32.660 So I'm asking that the Commission would just freeze rates 00:10:33.100 --> 00:10:35.060 for two years, 00:10:35.060 --> 00:10:40.060 at least 24 months so that the economy can return. 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:44.190 People can get back to their jobs and back 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:49.190 to You know, to life as normal. 00:10:49.230 --> 00:10:51.510 But at this time when we're... 00:10:51.510 --> 00:10:53.310 The whole world's in crisis, 00:10:53.310 --> 00:10:58.310 I ask that you please not allow, you know, billionaires 00:10:58.380 --> 00:11:01.580 and investors to make more money on a rate hike 00:11:02.700 --> 00:11:04.490 squeezing money out of people 00:11:04.490 --> 00:11:06.540 that just simply can't afford it. 00:11:06.540 --> 00:11:07.673 Thank you very much. 00:11:09.410 --> 00:11:11.610 Thank you, Reverend Woodson. 00:11:11.610 --> 00:11:13.260 Operator the next caller, please. 00:11:14.710 --> 00:11:17.040 Our next caller is Ceyda Durmaz. 00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:17.890 You may go ahead. 00:11:19.160 --> 00:11:21.260 Hi, my name is Ceyda Durmaz 00:11:21.260 --> 00:11:23.760 and I'm with Local Clean Energy Alliance. 00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:26.280 I stand with the Reclaim Our Power campaign 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:28.310 to transform our energy system 00:11:28.310 --> 00:11:30.020 to meet community needs. 00:11:30.020 --> 00:11:34.160 We need utilities that are affordable, safe, resilient 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:36.660 and community and worker control. 00:11:36.660 --> 00:11:39.240 I hope your decisions today will bring us closer 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.150 to all of those things. 00:11:41.150 --> 00:11:43.060 If by using microgrids, 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:44.870 you're trying to help our communities 00:11:44.870 --> 00:11:47.870 become more energy resilient, then let us own 00:11:47.870 --> 00:11:51.450 and control our own resilient infrastructure. 00:11:51.450 --> 00:11:54.630 The track to proposed decision fails to address the need 00:11:54.630 --> 00:11:58.600 for large scale microgrid facilities in our communities 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.110 which was the purpose of the proceeding. 00:12:01.110 --> 00:12:02.770 It needs to create standards 00:12:02.770 --> 00:12:05.450 like a new microgrid terrace to expand 00:12:05.450 --> 00:12:08.350 to the development of microgrids in our neighborhoods. 00:12:08.350 --> 00:12:11.030 By putting PG&E in charge of microgrids, 00:12:11.030 --> 00:12:15.050 you just help expand PG&E's control of our power. 00:12:15.050 --> 00:12:17.020 Also many people already struggled 00:12:17.020 --> 00:12:20.610 to pay their utility bills, especially during the pandemic. 00:12:20.610 --> 00:12:22.788 And PG&E is worried about not being able 00:12:22.788 --> 00:12:24.910 to increase its profits. 00:12:24.910 --> 00:12:27.010 I think it's a shame that PG&E is trying 00:12:27.010 --> 00:12:29.173 to increase the rates again, thank you. 00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:33.900 Thank you very much. 00:12:33.900 --> 00:12:35.350 Operator next caller, please. 00:12:37.856 --> 00:12:39.490 Our [Operator] next caller is Michael Kaufman. 00:12:39.490 --> 00:12:40.340 You may go ahead. 00:12:41.995 --> 00:12:44.660 Thank you, my name's Michael Kaufman. 00:12:44.660 --> 00:12:48.090 I'm with the Local Clean Energy Alliance 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:51.490 and Communities for a Better Environment. 00:12:51.490 --> 00:12:56.220 And I'm calling because I am so worried for myself 00:12:56.220 --> 00:12:59.390 and all of the residents of East Oakland 00:12:59.390 --> 00:13:02.370 who are facing evictions, 00:13:02.370 --> 00:13:07.370 facing a pandemic, facing losing their jobs. 00:13:07.420 --> 00:13:09.437 There's a massive crisis. 00:13:10.765 --> 00:13:12.810 And in the middle of this crisis, 00:13:12.810 --> 00:13:16.090 PG&E wants to raise rates. 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:18.200 It doesn't feel good. 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.980 It doesn't feel like it's a holiday season 00:13:21.980 --> 00:13:24.770 when people are struggling 00:13:24.770 --> 00:13:29.200 and yet their electricity is gonna cost more. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.970 They won't be able to afford it. 00:13:31.970 --> 00:13:36.970 Please stop PG&E from paying its investors 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:42.600 and instead allow PG&E to have a safe utility 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.920 throughout the Northern California. 00:13:46.920 --> 00:13:48.860 Stop the fires. 00:13:48.860 --> 00:13:51.790 Invest in better utilities. 00:13:51.790 --> 00:13:56.790 Invest in microgrids and stop raising rates for the rich. 00:13:57.670 --> 00:13:58.503 Thank you. 00:14:02.155 --> 00:14:03.300 To the audience, Don't turn this off. 00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:05.340 Thank you, Mr. Kaufman. 00:14:05.340 --> 00:14:07.123 Our next caller, please Operator? 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.440 Our next caller is Alan Marlin 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.050 with Alameda County resident. 00:14:13.050 --> 00:14:14.050 So you may go ahead. 00:14:15.409 --> 00:14:16.242 Yes, this is Alan. 00:14:16.242 --> 00:14:17.830 I'm a resident of Alameda County. 00:14:17.830 --> 00:14:19.920 PG&E is a corrupt organization 00:14:19.920 --> 00:14:21.810 guilty of criminal manslaughter. 00:14:21.810 --> 00:14:23.460 It doesn't deserve the hike its rates 00:14:23.460 --> 00:14:25.500 especially during a pandemic. 00:14:25.500 --> 00:14:26.610 Rates should be frozen 00:14:26.610 --> 00:14:29.650 and the company should be possessed as a public utility. 00:14:29.650 --> 00:14:30.483 Thank you. 00:14:31.970 --> 00:14:33.280 Thank you, sir. 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:34.483 Next caller, please. 00:14:43.800 --> 00:14:45.450 Operator, the next caller please. 00:14:52.850 --> 00:14:54.393 Operator, we lost the line? 00:14:56.180 --> 00:14:57.240 My apologies please, 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:58.460 looks like they disconnected. 00:14:58.460 --> 00:15:00.950 Our next caller is Pete (indistinct) 00:15:00.950 --> 00:15:01.800 You may go ahead. 00:15:03.420 --> 00:15:04.380 Good morning Commissioners, 00:15:04.380 --> 00:15:06.050 my name is Pete (indistinct). 00:15:06.050 --> 00:15:08.960 I'm with the Reclaim Or Power Coalition. 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.450 And I, first one 00:15:11.450 --> 00:15:13.640 I appreciate the public health message that you gave 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:17.780 at the opening President Batjer, I appreciate that sentiment 00:15:17.780 --> 00:15:18.840 and also hope that, 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.510 that sentiment can carry through 00:15:20.510 --> 00:15:23.050 into the decisions that the Commissioners 00:15:23.050 --> 00:15:24.523 have in front of them. 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.210 In June, we had after months and months 00:15:28.210 --> 00:15:29.850 of hundreds of people, 00:15:29.850 --> 00:15:31.520 thousands of people writing to you, 00:15:31.520 --> 00:15:34.630 calling in demanding a responsible plan 00:15:34.630 --> 00:15:37.360 of reorganization that took power away 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.030 from the criminal entity that is PG&E. 00:15:40.030 --> 00:15:42.107 You all said all five of you, 00:15:42.107 --> 00:15:44.990 "We endorse this plan because it gives us the power 00:15:44.990 --> 00:15:47.530 to finally give us the power to hold PG&E accountable." 00:15:47.530 --> 00:15:50.770 Well, since then the (indistinct) has happened. 00:15:50.770 --> 00:15:53.520 PG&E has lied and broken the law 00:15:53.520 --> 00:15:57.010 about the tree trimming about keeping our families safe. 00:15:57.010 --> 00:15:59.220 Shut off have to shut off has impacted people 00:15:59.220 --> 00:16:01.860 with disabilities, low-income people, et cetera. 00:16:01.860 --> 00:16:03.650 It is now time for you to live 00:16:03.650 --> 00:16:06.080 up to the promise that you made to us in June. 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:09.090 Appreciate that President Batjer 00:16:09.090 --> 00:16:11.540 you've put forward a fact-finding mission. 00:16:11.540 --> 00:16:13.110 We want that fact-finding mission 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:17.050 into the ways that PG&E has failed to be transparent, 00:16:17.050 --> 00:16:20.500 to be public, to be quick and to have real teeth, 00:16:20.500 --> 00:16:23.080 initiate the Golden State Energy process 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.790 and take the Wall Street Corporation 00:16:25.790 --> 00:16:30.230 out of the energy that keeps our families safe and healthy. 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.936 And in the midst of all of this that you all... 00:16:33.936 --> 00:16:35.440 That PG&E would be thinking 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.370 about raising rates after they have lied 00:16:38.370 --> 00:16:40.370 and stolen from our families for years, 00:16:40.370 --> 00:16:43.120 and now are in the middle of a pandemic 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.690 and a recession while their Wall Street Portfolio 00:16:45.690 --> 00:16:50.690 is going up as well as trying to box out our communities 00:16:50.990 --> 00:16:53.120 from the microgrids proceeding that actually 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.257 is designed to bring communities 00:16:55.257 --> 00:16:58.260 and the most vulnerable communities at the center. 00:16:58.260 --> 00:17:00.050 We need to shape that in a way 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:02.590 so that folks can actually hold 00:17:02.590 --> 00:17:05.480 and own their own energy and not just be chained 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:06.870 to this Wall Street Corporation 00:17:06.870 --> 00:17:09.270 that has burned us down, smoked us out 00:17:09.270 --> 00:17:10.540 and shut off our power. 00:17:10.540 --> 00:17:13.420 So please, take your responsibility seriously, 00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:16.260 bring these to the accountability process. 00:17:16.260 --> 00:17:17.460 Thank you for your time. 00:17:20.800 --> 00:17:22.570 Thank you for your comment. 00:17:22.570 --> 00:17:25.753 Operator the next comment or the next caller, please? 00:17:27.660 --> 00:17:29.820 Our next caller is Sheela Gunn-Cushman 00:17:29.820 --> 00:17:33.580 with Electricity Equals Life and Reclaim Our Power. 00:17:33.580 --> 00:17:34.730 Ma'am you may go ahead. 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:37.000 Thank you. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.420 I'm Sheela Gunn-Cushman, and I am a renter. 00:17:40.420 --> 00:17:42.100 I'm a person with a disability. 00:17:42.100 --> 00:17:43.293 I live in Oakland. 00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:47.880 Electricity Equals Life is a small ad hoc group 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.450 of elders and folks with disabilities 00:17:50.450 --> 00:17:52.100 that are very concerned 00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:55.220 about power in the state of California 00:17:55.220 --> 00:17:58.073 both electrical and otherwise, 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:04.960 20 years, at least PG&E has been threatening our lives. 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.410 There were brownouts in 2001 00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:12.230 and there were fires just last year 00:18:12.230 --> 00:18:14.410 and years past. 00:18:14.410 --> 00:18:19.400 Some parts of California have been getting fires every year. 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:21.740 I'm lucky not to be in one of them. 00:18:21.740 --> 00:18:25.220 I echo a lot of what folks have said already 00:18:25.220 --> 00:18:29.440 but I find it ironic that if I want 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.890 to be a sustainable household, 00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:36.810 then I will be put over completely into electricity, 00:18:36.810 --> 00:18:39.030 which my electricity went 00:18:39.030 --> 00:18:42.070 out for six hours the other day with no warning at all. 00:18:42.070 --> 00:18:47.070 And if I were needing electricity for my life 00:18:47.100 --> 00:18:49.140 on a moment to moment basis, 00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:50.090 I would have been dead. 00:18:50.090 --> 00:18:51.640 I wouldn't have had the chance. 00:18:53.407 --> 00:18:54.240 And I don't think 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.380 that investors ought to hold us hostage anymore. 00:18:57.380 --> 00:18:59.870 I think that we need to get... 00:18:59.870 --> 00:19:04.870 We need to incentivize putting solar on rental properties. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.420 We need to incentivize taking gas out of things. 00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:11.130 Most of my PG&E bill is actually gas. 00:19:11.130 --> 00:19:12.480 I can't afford a rate hike. 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:13.830 I don't know anyone who can. 00:19:13.830 --> 00:19:17.120 And I don't wanna pay these people who have already held us 00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:18.850 for ransom for decades. 00:19:18.850 --> 00:19:22.420 I think we need to own this utility 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:26.000 make it public and do microgrids 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:31.000 and become a new world where solar and renewable energies 00:19:32.530 --> 00:19:35.040 in addition to that are the thing we do 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:39.670 and not this other backwards, 50 years old stuff. 00:19:39.670 --> 00:19:40.503 Thanks. 00:19:41.420 --> 00:19:43.220 Thank you, Ms. Cushman. 00:19:43.220 --> 00:19:44.943 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:19:46.420 --> 00:19:48.410 Our next caller is David McCord. 00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:49.510 Sir, you may go ahead. 00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:52.010 Hi, I'm David McCord 00:19:52.010 --> 00:19:54.550 and I'm a great payer of electricity. 00:19:54.550 --> 00:19:59.550 And I'm speaking on the proposed decision filed December 7th 00:19:59.760 --> 00:20:03.280 and the proceeding to facilitate commercialization 00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:04.930 of microgrids. 00:20:04.930 --> 00:20:08.550 That was a ruling... Rule making 1909009. 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.920 Microgrids must reduce emissions. 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.560 Please support solar and storage 00:20:19.560 --> 00:20:22.300 with appropriate valuation 00:20:22.300 --> 00:20:25.620 of greenhouse gas free local generation 00:20:25.620 --> 00:20:27.890 and storage resources. 00:20:27.890 --> 00:20:30.253 Eliminate diesel generation. 00:20:31.650 --> 00:20:36.650 CPUC must engage community choice aggregators 00:20:36.670 --> 00:20:38.020 and local governments 00:20:38.020 --> 00:20:41.740 for their input roadblocks to their installation 00:20:41.740 --> 00:20:46.740 of microgrids and their territories need to be removed. 00:20:46.810 --> 00:20:51.000 The boards of CCA's represent the local cities 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:55.773 and counties who know local situations and opportunities. 00:20:56.670 --> 00:21:01.560 We need to facilitate connections across property lines 00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:05.050 and streets, so that essential government 00:21:05.050 --> 00:21:07.660 and other services kind of stay on 00:21:07.660 --> 00:21:09.393 during power shutoffs. 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.450 And last but important, 00:21:13.450 --> 00:21:17.470 we need to prioritize disadvantaged communities 00:21:17.470 --> 00:21:19.540 and environmental justice. 00:21:19.540 --> 00:21:20.373 Thank you. 00:21:22.904 --> 00:21:23.830 Thank you, Mr McCord. 00:21:23.830 --> 00:21:26.173 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:21:27.380 --> 00:21:30.070 Our next caller is John Serino. 00:21:30.070 --> 00:21:32.151 Serino, you may go ahead. 00:21:32.151 --> 00:21:35.570 Yes, PG&E initiated a public safety 00:21:35.570 --> 00:21:39.840 shut-off in North County, San Diego on December 2nd 00:21:39.840 --> 00:21:41.550 to December 4th. 00:21:41.550 --> 00:21:44.630 All the communities around us had power. 00:21:44.630 --> 00:21:46.670 Our power was off for so long. 00:21:46.670 --> 00:21:50.240 We lost internet phone service and cell service. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.340 Our cell service was extremely limited. 00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:55.150 As PG&E has no plans 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:57.740 or a timeline to rectify the situations 00:21:57.740 --> 00:22:00.243 and bills to compensate us for our waters. 00:22:01.280 --> 00:22:05.150 A loss of work, a loss of food spoilage. 00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:08.070 I lost the security and safety. 00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:10.800 We pay the same rate as the communities around us 00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:15.150 but get less service and no means for compensation. 00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:19.180 PG&E, less service, same rate decision they say was made 00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:21.140 by the CPUC. 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:23.726 The CPUC controls us. 00:22:23.726 --> 00:22:27.270 Thais's absolutely unfair, to pay the same rates 00:22:27.270 --> 00:22:28.570 for less service. 00:22:28.570 --> 00:22:30.910 How has this... How has the CPUC going 00:22:30.910 --> 00:22:34.230 to address the rate, costs, the equity situation 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.090 for those impacted by your policies? 00:22:36.090 --> 00:22:41.050 If you would please address this, thank you. 00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:42.250 Thank you, Mr. Serino. 00:22:43.396 --> 00:22:44.229 Operator, the next caller. 00:22:44.229 --> 00:22:48.729 (indistinct) but that's fine. 00:22:49.770 --> 00:22:51.800 Thank you, our next caller is Jim Stewart. 00:22:51.800 --> 00:22:52.650 You may go ahead. 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.280 Hi, I'm Dr. Jim Stewart energy consultant. 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:00.113 And I first... 00:23:00.113 --> 00:23:03.090 I wanna congratulate Commissioner Randolph 00:23:03.090 --> 00:23:04.650 on your run new position 00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:07.903 as President of the Resources Board. 00:23:09.510 --> 00:23:10.343 Well, we know that you have big shoes 00:23:10.343 --> 00:23:13.300 to fill but we're counting on you 00:23:13.300 --> 00:23:15.600 to do an even better job than Mary 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.700 because California needs to be the model 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:24.700 to show the world how we can get to net zero before 2045. 00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:28.900 In fact, I think the whole world is depending 00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:32.043 on you, go for it dear Commissioner Randolph. 00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:37.540 I wanna also say that the proposed microgrid decision 00:23:37.540 --> 00:23:39.631 is a big step forward 00:23:39.631 --> 00:23:41.023 and I wanna commend your staff 00:23:41.023 --> 00:23:44.730 and the ALJ that things could move forward. 00:23:44.730 --> 00:23:48.120 Like option one is a good start 00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:53.120 but obviously you can't limit that definition 00:23:54.804 --> 00:23:58.570 of facilities to those owned by municipal corporations. 00:23:58.570 --> 00:24:01.190 What are we going to do about, you know, 00:24:01.190 --> 00:24:03.820 power shutoff and we've got hospitals 00:24:03.820 --> 00:24:07.560 and senior centers and schools hosting evacuees? 00:24:07.560 --> 00:24:08.970 We're gonna shutoff their power 00:24:08.970 --> 00:24:11.556 because they're not a municipal owned? 00:24:11.556 --> 00:24:15.070 (indistinct) come on, you can improve option one. 00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:20.070 You've got time between now and January to get it fixed. 00:24:20.340 --> 00:24:24.700 And, I am calling on you Commissioners to direct the staff 00:24:24.700 --> 00:24:28.830 and the ALJ to improve this thing. 00:24:28.830 --> 00:24:32.120 So we really have microgrids that reduce emissions 00:24:32.120 --> 00:24:35.254 and, don't increase fossil fuel generation 00:24:35.254 --> 00:24:40.140 and prioritize the disadvantaged communities 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:43.120 and environmental justice. 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:45.623 We're depending on you go for it, thank you. 00:24:47.550 --> 00:24:49.150 Thank you Dr. Stewart. 00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:50.313 Next caller, please. 00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:54.540 Our next caller is Parker (indistinct) 00:24:54.540 --> 00:24:57.973 with Peninsula DSA and Reclaim Our Power. 00:24:57.973 --> 00:24:58.923 So, you may go ahead. 00:25:00.830 --> 00:25:04.150 Hi, I'm calling today to say 00:25:04.150 --> 00:25:06.350 that I stand with the Reclaim Our Power campaign 00:25:06.350 --> 00:25:08.510 to transform the energy system. 00:25:08.510 --> 00:25:12.047 And during your opening speech, President Batjer 00:25:12.047 --> 00:25:14.760 you talked about this being the season of love and hope 00:25:14.760 --> 00:25:16.370 but I'm not feeling hopeful. 00:25:16.370 --> 00:25:18.420 There is an eviction crisis looming, 00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:20.510 people have thousands of dollars in debt. 00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:22.730 The climate crisis is already killing people 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:25.700 and I'd like to see you hold PG&E accountable 00:25:26.750 --> 00:25:29.243 to pursue the plan to revoke their license. 00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:33.550 We in California have a huge responsibility 00:25:33.550 --> 00:25:36.200 to the global solutions. 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.137 We have a huge economy 00:25:38.137 --> 00:25:40.690 and we can really be a model of net zero. 00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:45.690 Since the CPUC introduced the plan on June 30th, 00:25:46.020 --> 00:25:49.750 the PG&E has continued to start fires. 00:25:49.750 --> 00:25:51.493 They've killed more people. 00:25:53.060 --> 00:25:55.460 They've cut down the wrong trees. 00:25:55.460 --> 00:25:58.650 There are shutoff events, as Sheela mentioned 00:25:58.650 --> 00:26:02.120 that are putting disabled people in harm. 00:26:02.120 --> 00:26:03.920 They could actually be killing them. 00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:05.960 People aren't getting noticed 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:10.210 for these shutoffs and it's unconscionable. 00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:12.650 We are letting people die. 00:26:12.650 --> 00:26:14.210 And today, President Batjer, 00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:16.910 I'm hoping that you can initiate the fact finding 00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:21.283 so that we can start the plan to revoke their license. 00:26:22.430 --> 00:26:24.293 We have to fix the climate crisis. 00:26:25.340 --> 00:26:26.730 It's really taking off. 00:26:26.730 --> 00:26:27.563 Thank you. 00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:30.640 Thank you very much. 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.213 Operator, the next call please. 00:26:34.650 --> 00:26:37.030 Our next caller is Keith (indistinct) 00:26:37.030 --> 00:26:37.880 You may go ahead. 00:26:40.040 --> 00:26:41.297 Thank you. 00:26:41.297 --> 00:26:42.210 I'd like to thank the Commission 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:44.495 for allowing me to speak today. 00:26:44.495 --> 00:26:45.620 My name is Keith Anthony (indistinct) 00:26:45.620 --> 00:26:46.500 I'm the current chair 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.650 of the Environmental Justice Advisory Group 00:26:48.650 --> 00:26:51.660 Valley Air District Fresno office. 00:26:51.660 --> 00:26:53.760 And I'd like to just say real quick 00:26:53.760 --> 00:26:56.780 that we have an environmental criminal here in PG&E. 00:26:56.780 --> 00:26:58.720 We need to resize and microgrid, you know, 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.490 regional local and grid free power systems. 00:27:02.490 --> 00:27:06.330 So disenfranchising the less fortunate and consumer, 00:27:06.330 --> 00:27:08.520 is only the only options left 00:27:08.520 --> 00:27:12.270 for people who cannot stay up with their power bills. 00:27:12.270 --> 00:27:15.853 You know, it's a mismanaged and abusive to the structure. 00:27:16.850 --> 00:27:20.480 I'm speaking also on behalf of my 87 year old mother 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.290 who's been locked in a trailer in a remote location isolated 00:27:23.290 --> 00:27:26.580 for 10 months because of the COVID pandemic, 00:27:26.580 --> 00:27:28.570 living on fixed social security 00:27:28.570 --> 00:27:32.530 of 850 a month and raise a PG&E rates right now 00:27:32.530 --> 00:27:34.090 would just destroy her. 00:27:34.090 --> 00:27:38.100 Living and her... The money that she's allocated 00:27:38.100 --> 00:27:39.713 for food and medication. 00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:43.070 PG&E can wait for their returns 00:27:43.070 --> 00:27:46.280 by borrowing from private sector re-collateralizing assets 00:27:46.280 --> 00:27:48.923 or by applying for federal emergency support grants. 00:27:50.070 --> 00:27:53.870 Got to remember this is a for-profit California corporation, 00:27:53.870 --> 00:27:55.770 and they are using these rate hikes to pay 00:27:55.770 --> 00:28:00.390 for their mismanaged utility grid systems. 00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:02.170 And that have caused the wildfires 00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:04.010 in the state of California. 00:28:04.010 --> 00:28:08.500 Our company and our group has done some studies 00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.910 and our staff has discovered that if one wildfire 00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:14.386 can make up for a whole year's... 00:28:14.386 --> 00:28:16.300 Can destroy a whole year's worth 00:28:16.300 --> 00:28:19.360 of advanced in clean air. 00:28:19.360 --> 00:28:21.270 The only way to stop this insanity is 00:28:21.270 --> 00:28:23.340 to deCommission the entire utility 00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:25.330 and auction off the assets for services 00:28:25.330 --> 00:28:26.823 and state owned utilities. 00:28:28.450 --> 00:28:31.429 Thank you so much for giving me an opportunity to speak. 00:28:31.429 --> 00:28:32.762 And I thank you. 00:28:34.303 --> 00:28:35.430 Thank you, sir. 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:37.080 Operator the next caller, please. 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.300 Our next caller is Jimmy Lee. 00:28:41.300 --> 00:28:42.300 So you may go ahead. 00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:48.400 Hi, this is Jimmy Lee coming from Sunrise Bay area 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.570 and as a community worker in San Francisco. 00:28:52.570 --> 00:28:55.920 I'm standing with the Reclaim Our Power coalition 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.900 and I wanna make two points today. 00:28:57.900 --> 00:29:00.760 The first we definitely need community focused 00:29:00.760 --> 00:29:03.230 and community owned energy systems. 00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:07.380 You know, can we use people who just live regular lives? 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:11.190 Shouldn't be in fear and live in fear of how PG&E 00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.713 or any, you make decisions about their power shutoff? 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.620 Especially when these power shutoffs aren't the result 00:29:18.620 --> 00:29:20.310 of anything they've done. 00:29:20.310 --> 00:29:23.113 And the result of PG&E is negligence. 00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:28.020 It's also really interesting to me that hospitals, 00:29:28.020 --> 00:29:30.650 food banks, nursing homes, schools, community centers 00:29:30.650 --> 00:29:32.680 and the people who work here, 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.737 the people who really serve communities 00:29:34.737 --> 00:29:37.560 and the people who are most vulnerable 00:29:37.560 --> 00:29:40.590 aren't proactively sought out and asked their opinion 00:29:40.590 --> 00:29:43.550 and asked to be at these conversations, 00:29:43.550 --> 00:29:47.100 I really encourage the CPUC to strongly consider how 00:29:47.100 --> 00:29:48.970 to be more proactive and how to bring these groups 00:29:48.970 --> 00:29:51.050 into the conversation and ask them, 00:29:51.050 --> 00:29:52.330 what are the needs? 00:29:52.330 --> 00:29:54.218 How do we do it? 00:29:54.218 --> 00:29:55.051 And then how do we help? 00:29:55.051 --> 00:29:59.193 how do those groups help plan a microgrid for these people? 00:30:01.137 --> 00:30:02.490 And the second point that I wanna make 00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:03.560 is that I wanna emphasize 00:30:03.560 --> 00:30:04.700 that families are really struggling. 00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:07.170 We've heard it from some other people on this call. 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:08.770 I was on the phone last week 00:30:08.770 --> 00:30:11.420 trying to provide family financial support. 00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.290 But the company organization I worked 00:30:13.290 --> 00:30:14.840 for of course, is running low on funds. 00:30:14.840 --> 00:30:16.980 We've been 10 months in this pandemic 00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:19.110 and we're still trying to support families financially. 00:30:19.110 --> 00:30:22.150 And in other ways, obviously funds are running low. 00:30:22.150 --> 00:30:23.873 So we had to ask, you know, 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.970 you have a choice as either we can provide money 00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:29.320 for food or provide money for bills. 00:30:29.320 --> 00:30:30.990 And having that conversation 00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:32.790 with the family is really difficult. 00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:37.003 Putting that choice on a family is extremely immoral. 00:30:38.143 --> 00:30:40.593 And so I please ask that you make sure that bills 00:30:43.520 --> 00:30:46.820 don't raise in price and that we don't ask these families 00:30:46.820 --> 00:30:48.290 to pay any bills any more. 00:30:48.290 --> 00:30:49.420 Can we extend the moratorium? 00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:52.400 Can we just make bills for these most vulnerable families 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.530 not a thing anymore? 00:30:53.530 --> 00:30:54.363 Thank you. 00:30:59.114 --> 00:31:00.660 Thank you, sir. 00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:02.310 Operator the next caller, please. 00:31:04.060 --> 00:31:06.630 Our next caller is Joseph Ferrara. 00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:07.763 Ferrara, you may go ahead. 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.420 Hi, this is Joseph Ferrara. 00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:16.790 I'm with East Bay DSA Democratic Socialists for America. 00:31:16.790 --> 00:31:19.080 I'm calling because yeah, 00:31:19.080 --> 00:31:22.680 the CPUC must hold PG&E accountable 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.630 for their failure to keep California safe. 00:31:25.630 --> 00:31:28.690 We must plan to revoke PG&E license 00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:30.910 and initiate a public takeover 00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:34.400 with democratic structures for community control. 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.680 We must protect rate payers from having to pay 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.460 for PG&E's negligence in causing fires. 00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:42.690 And we need a rate freeze now 00:31:42.690 --> 00:31:45.280 and to cancel all utility debt. 00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:46.330 I heard the woman 00:31:46.330 --> 00:31:50.270 at the beginning talking about improving the safety culture. 00:31:50.270 --> 00:31:52.740 So, culture has nothing to do with this. 00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:55.170 As we've seen with so many aspects of society, 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.160 it's the profit motive itself that is killing people 00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.570 and destroying the planet. 00:31:59.570 --> 00:32:01.800 And we can try to ignore this all we want, 00:32:01.800 --> 00:32:03.250 but it's with everything 00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:07.820 I mean, from education to, I mean, evictions, 00:32:07.820 --> 00:32:11.510 I mean go down the list where we can't ignore this anymore. 00:32:11.510 --> 00:32:14.730 What we need is a publicly owned democratically 00:32:14.730 --> 00:32:18.500 controlled power utility that is operated as a service 00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.840 and not as a profit generating tool 00:32:20.840 --> 00:32:22.247 for the capital (indistinct). 00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:27.380 That's all. 00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:28.850 Thank you, sir. 00:32:28.850 --> 00:32:30.623 Operator next caller, please. 00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:34.390 Our next caller is Benny Zenke 00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:35.570 with East Bay DSA 00:32:36.516 --> 00:32:37.413 Sir, you may go ahead. 00:32:40.290 --> 00:32:42.510 Yeah, hi, thank you, again. 00:32:42.510 --> 00:32:43.343 My name is Benny Zenke. 00:32:43.343 --> 00:32:47.840 I'm also with the East Bay Democratic Socialists of America. 00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:50.423 I'm on the steering committee of the chapter. 00:32:51.791 --> 00:32:56.791 I'm calling in for the same reason as basically 00:32:57.040 --> 00:32:59.370 all the other callers on the line. 00:32:59.370 --> 00:33:04.110 I stand with the Reclaim Our Power coalition in demanding 00:33:04.110 --> 00:33:06.670 that the CPUC really worked 00:33:06.670 --> 00:33:10.023 to transform our energy systems to meet community needs. 00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:14.160 As we've seen, even this year 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.160 post-bankruptcy PG&E is still not doing what they said 00:33:20.010 --> 00:33:21.740 that they were going to do. 00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:26.740 So, they're not doing the tree trimming that is needed. 00:33:27.910 --> 00:33:32.910 They're not addressing the concerns brought forward 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.060 and the reasons that they were 00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:37.490 in bankruptcy in the first place. 00:33:37.490 --> 00:33:39.900 I do appreciate President Batjer 00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:41.690 for initiating fact finding. 00:33:41.690 --> 00:33:44.770 I really hope that there's some teeth there 00:33:45.810 --> 00:33:48.690 and I just really ask the Commission 00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:53.690 to consider what it will take for PG&E to no longer exist. 00:33:53.810 --> 00:33:57.940 How many mistakes, how many lives need to be lost? 00:33:57.940 --> 00:33:59.680 How many fires need to be set? 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.200 How many times people need 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.116 to have their power shut off before? 00:34:04.116 --> 00:34:06.370 You know, we say enough is enough. 00:34:06.370 --> 00:34:11.370 I think a lot of people feel that has the pandemic not come 00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:17.900 to California and the United States in the world. 00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:21.363 Maybe we would have had a different outcome 00:34:21.363 --> 00:34:22.920 with PG&E this year, 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.520 it's clear that the Governor and his staff had too much 00:34:27.520 --> 00:34:32.520 on their plate to address this thoroughly, unfortunately, 00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:36.290 and now we're dealing with fires 00:34:36.290 --> 00:34:39.160 and shut off in the middle of a pandemic. 00:34:39.160 --> 00:34:41.020 These are all interconnected issues. 00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:42.250 They're not separate issues. 00:34:42.250 --> 00:34:47.250 And I do hope that the CPUC take their duty very seriously 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.870 and try to really tackle this problem there. 00:34:51.870 --> 00:34:52.703 Thank you. 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.253 Thank you, operator next caller, please. 00:34:59.350 --> 00:35:01.470 next caller is Connie Stewart. 00:35:01.470 --> 00:35:02.620 Ma'am you may go ahead. 00:35:03.700 --> 00:35:06.330 Hi there, thank you very much Commission. 00:35:06.330 --> 00:35:10.120 I'm calling on behalf of Redwood Coast Connect 00:35:10.120 --> 00:35:13.690 to in support of consent items, 24 and 25 00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:16.420 which will be bringing needed broadband 00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:19.850 to our co Redwood Coast community. 00:35:19.850 --> 00:35:22.470 I wanna thank frontier communication 00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:25.430 for working closely with our communities 00:35:25.430 --> 00:35:28.010 on the Crescent City and Smith River projects. 00:35:28.010 --> 00:35:31.268 They've actually been very wonderful to work with 00:35:31.268 --> 00:35:34.090 and I wanna thank the Commission's staff 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.730 for helping get these projects in front 00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:43.673 of you and congratulate the Hoopa Tribe for their project. 00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:49.405 We're very excited about having these path, so thank you. 00:35:49.405 --> 00:35:51.953 And I wish you would support them today, thanks. 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.200 Thank you, Ms. Stewart. 00:35:56.200 --> 00:35:57.900 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:36:00.391 --> 00:36:01.670 Our next caller is Eddie Price. 00:36:01.670 --> 00:36:02.843 Sir, you may go ahead. 00:36:04.890 --> 00:36:05.723 Good afternoon. 00:36:05.723 --> 00:36:06.730 My name is Eddie price. 00:36:06.730 --> 00:36:09.980 I live in San Diego, California. 00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:14.710 I am the chair of the Community Advisory Committee 00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:16.570 for San Diego community power. 00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:20.870 And I'm a recent awardee of the Clean Energy Champion award 00:36:20.870 --> 00:36:23.850 from the state of California. 00:36:23.850 --> 00:36:28.003 I'm calling in reference to item number 42. 00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:33.620 As I look at what I can actually understand from it, 00:36:33.620 --> 00:36:35.500 there was a proposed decision that came 00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:36.760 out a few weeks ago 00:36:37.780 --> 00:36:41.540 and then corrected the inaccurate info from SDG&E. 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.880 Recently, there's a revised decision 00:36:48.247 --> 00:36:50.150 and it is based upon faulty math 00:36:50.150 --> 00:36:53.943 and faulty mathematics that everybody knows is faulty. 00:36:56.002 --> 00:37:01.002 It will be bad for the launch of San Diego community power 00:37:01.390 --> 00:37:05.440 down here to have faulty data coming from SDG&E 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.300 that only lasts for a little while. 00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:11.090 And apparently his only motive is to stall 00:37:12.680 --> 00:37:15.723 or eliminate the launch of San Diego community power. 00:37:17.020 --> 00:37:19.330 We would like, or I would like, you know, 00:37:19.330 --> 00:37:22.530 more transparency from SDG&E. 00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:25.860 On these numbers, I would like to support 00:37:25.860 --> 00:37:28.760 of the California Public Utilities Commission. 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.360 If you know the data is faulty 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.000 why are we operating off of faulty data 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.500 just because it's a program 00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:37.590 that's the way we used to do things. 00:37:37.590 --> 00:37:38.840 It's a brand new day. 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.230 It's a brand new paradigm 00:37:41.734 --> 00:37:43.520 and community power is here to stay. 00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:46.760 And we would really like you to actually, 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.520 if it's a law or a program 00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:52.320 or a process that the public utilities Commission is using 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:54.980 that doesn't work today, 00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:57.700 I would really like, you know, you to look at it, 00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:00.590 change it and come back again. 00:38:00.590 --> 00:38:03.620 I really don't understand how you can make a decision 00:38:03.620 --> 00:38:07.000 and then revise the decision based upon 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.850 on faulty mathematics. 00:38:08.850 --> 00:38:11.430 This is very important 00:38:11.430 --> 00:38:14.280 to the communities of San Diego, to equity, to communities 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:18.060 of concern in San Diego for the future of energy, 00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:20.640 energy programs and things of that nature 00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:23.140 that SDG&E not really doing 00:38:23.140 --> 00:38:25.420 and doesn't have any intention to do. 00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:28.590 So I would really, that's a bell 00:38:28.590 --> 00:38:32.820 I guess I'm supposed to be quiet now, okay. 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:35.860 It is an indication that your time's up Mr. Price. 00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:38.494 Okay, thank you, have a beautiful day 00:38:38.494 --> 00:38:39.470 and a happy holiday. 00:38:39.470 --> 00:38:41.463 Thank you very much, same to you. 00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:44.760 Operators, the next caller, please. 00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:49.070 Our next caller is Tracy Rosenberg. 00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:50.220 Ma'am you may go ahead. 00:38:51.220 --> 00:38:53.260 Yes, thank you. 00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:55.010 Good morning, Commissioners. 00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:57.000 My name is Tracy Rosenberg. 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.600 I am the director of Media Alliance. 00:39:01.600 --> 00:39:03.530 I'm calling today on behalf 00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:08.530 of my members who cross the nine County Bay area. 00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:12.340 Many of them are freelancers 00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:17.340 and contract workers and gig workers. 00:39:18.210 --> 00:39:20.460 And what they're all telling me, 00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:25.050 is that their income has slowed to a trickle. 00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:26.930 There's no work out there 00:39:26.930 --> 00:39:29.230 and they're having trouble paying the bills 00:39:29.230 --> 00:39:30.850 that they already have. 00:39:30.850 --> 00:39:35.400 Much less new larger and increased bills. 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.160 We're saying that this is a time of shared sacrifice. 00:39:39.160 --> 00:39:42.290 And yet we have a criminal corporation that is saying 00:39:42.290 --> 00:39:45.640 that they're not included in those sacrifices. 00:39:45.640 --> 00:39:47.423 That's plain wrong. 00:39:48.640 --> 00:39:52.460 We support the call for a two year rate freeze. 00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:56.060 That's the minimum that we can do 00:39:56.060 --> 00:40:01.060 to help people economically recover. 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:04.500 We are working with a national coalition that is calling 00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:09.500 for no more utility shutoffs, because energy is life. 00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:14.270 It's the ability to survive. 00:40:14.270 --> 00:40:17.350 And at this time, and at this place 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.520 we have no other choice. 00:40:19.520 --> 00:40:21.330 So again, we are supporting the call 00:40:21.330 --> 00:40:23.660 for a two year rate freeze 00:40:23.660 --> 00:40:26.700 and we also support the many speakers 00:40:26.700 --> 00:40:30.473 who have talked about PG&E's appalling record 00:40:32.350 --> 00:40:37.218 and the need to de-Commission PG&E 00:40:37.218 --> 00:40:39.880 as a public utility in the state of California. 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:40.713 Thanks. 00:40:42.483 --> 00:40:44.400 Thank you, Ms. Rosenberg. 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.100 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:40:48.470 --> 00:40:49.760 Our next caller is Tracy Greene 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.170 with Bay Area Regional Health Inequities Initiative. 00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:54.320 You may go ahead Ma'am. 00:40:55.470 --> 00:40:56.400 Good morning. 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.260 I'm Tracy Greene 00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:00.290 with the Bay Area Regional Health Inequities Initiative. 00:41:00.290 --> 00:41:01.460 BARHII is the coalition 00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:03.820 of the Bay Areas' 11 public health departments 00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:06.360 founded specifically to advance health equity 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.090 along with (indistinct) 00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:10.420 the coalition to end poverty in the Bay area. 00:41:10.420 --> 00:41:13.340 I'm speaking about the CPUC rate freeze. 00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:15.080 The pandemic has laid bare the racial 00:41:15.080 --> 00:41:17.820 and income related disparities that have long existed 00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:18.653 in our region. 00:41:18.653 --> 00:41:20.310 And the Bay area is no different. 00:41:20.310 --> 00:41:23.280 These in fact are visible in their heightened form now. 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.360 The burden of how the rents and energy deals 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.020 in such a context will post several health implications 00:41:28.020 --> 00:41:29.750 for residents, particularly those 00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:31.550 in a vulnerable group, 00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:34.420 and specifically wants moratorium are lifted. 00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:37.440 Similar to a study that established a significant increase 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.850 in COVID-19 incidents with the exploration 00:41:39.850 --> 00:41:43.320 of eviction beds in several States in the United States, 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.270 loss of access to energy will only exacerbate 00:41:46.270 --> 00:41:48.460 the rise in Corona virus infection, 00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:49.797 particularly among low income people 00:41:49.797 --> 00:41:51.700 and communities of color. 00:41:51.700 --> 00:41:53.150 For residents who have lost jobs 00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:56.140 or wages due to furloughs or shattered businesses. 00:41:56.140 --> 00:41:58.470 It's now even harder to cobble together rent 00:41:58.470 --> 00:42:00.950 or afford elevator utility payments. 00:42:00.950 --> 00:42:03.350 Once the moratoriums expires, low income people 00:42:03.350 --> 00:42:05.390 who are evicted will have to turn to other families 00:42:05.390 --> 00:42:08.130 or to shelters creating overcrowded situations. 00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:11.800 And with the Coronavirus can be easily transmitted. 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.280 Access to energy is crucial 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.930 for struggling families to stay housed. 00:42:15.930 --> 00:42:18.780 BARHII or just the Commission to adopt a rate free 00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.050 for low income families in the Bay Area, 00:42:21.050 --> 00:42:23.760 Specifically those who've been shouldering larger rearages 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.140 until the region is out of the current risk levels. 00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:29.060 And the economic situation has stabilized. 00:42:29.060 --> 00:42:30.460 And instead, shift the burden 00:42:30.460 --> 00:42:32.450 of payment to those who can afford it. 00:42:32.450 --> 00:42:34.280 And to PG&E itself. 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.720 The care program of the Commission 00:42:35.720 --> 00:42:36.880 has been pretty successful 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.270 in facilitating low income families 00:42:39.270 --> 00:42:42.500 with payment plans and could offer PG&E helpful ways 00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:43.780 to administer the rate freezes 00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:46.500 for families who are already struggling. 00:42:46.500 --> 00:42:49.790 Protecting people from eviction isn't just a housing issue 00:42:49.790 --> 00:42:53.500 but a necessary public health pandemic mitigation strategy. 00:42:53.500 --> 00:42:55.250 I thank you for your consideration. 00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:58.593 Thank you. 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:01.860 Operator, the next caller please. 00:43:04.410 --> 00:43:05.750 And before we go to the next caller, 00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:07.970 if you wish to speak during the public comment period, 00:43:07.970 --> 00:43:10.390 please press star one, unmute your phone 00:43:10.390 --> 00:43:11.760 and clearly provides your name 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.810 and organization when prompted. 00:43:13.810 --> 00:43:15.700 Our next caller is Edward Burgess. 00:43:15.700 --> 00:43:16.700 So you may go ahead. 00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:20.640 I think you said (indistinct) 00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:23.020 with the Vehicle-Grid Integration Council. 00:43:23.020 --> 00:43:25.610 My comments pertain to item 19 on the Consent Agenda 00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:29.710 which relates to SB-676 and Vehicle-Grid Integration issues. 00:43:29.710 --> 00:43:32.480 We wanna applaud the Commission for developing an order 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.380 which we think really helps move the ball forward 00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:36.140 on Vehicle-Grid Integration. 00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:37.470 As we pointed out in our comments 00:43:37.470 --> 00:43:39.805 and the drive (indistinct) proceeding 00:43:39.805 --> 00:43:41.880 is great potential to use CGI technologies 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.330 to simultaneously accelerate electric vehicle adoption 00:43:45.330 --> 00:43:48.340 while also leveraging EV's as a grid asset 00:43:48.340 --> 00:43:51.410 to improve reliability and resiliency. 00:43:51.410 --> 00:43:54.210 We estimate that even just 5% of the vehicles expected 00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:57.150 to be on the road by 2025, if they were leveraged 00:43:57.150 --> 00:44:00.800 as a grid resource that could amount to over 1,500 megawatts 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.370 of system capacity, which could go a long way 00:44:03.370 --> 00:44:05.940 towards preventing rotating outages. 00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:08.160 While this order is an important step forward 00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:09.800 there's more work to be done 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.610 particularly on maximizing the potential 00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:14.770 for EV to serve as a demand response resource. 00:44:14.770 --> 00:44:16.360 Additionally, we believe the order fell short 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.060 on developing a pathway for forward 00:44:19.060 --> 00:44:22.330 for vehicle to grid energy exports in terms 00:44:22.330 --> 00:44:25.570 of how those resources can be appropriately compensated. 00:44:25.570 --> 00:44:26.980 Apparently there's no active proceeding. 00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:28.160 We're aware of this doing this. 00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:29.840 So, we look forward to working more 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.210 with the Commission on these issues forward, 00:44:32.210 --> 00:44:35.007 and we applaud the order that Was put forward here today. 00:44:35.007 --> 00:44:36.557 And we thank you for your time. 00:44:39.277 --> 00:44:40.520 Thank you, sir. 00:44:40.520 --> 00:44:42.583 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:44:44.917 --> 00:44:47.840 And our next caller is Mari Rose Taruc. 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.040 Ma'am, you may go ahead. 00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:52.500 Good morning Commissioners. 00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:53.610 This is Mari Rose Taruc. 00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:56.920 I'm the coordinator for the Reclaim Our Power campaign 00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.400 formed by thousands of wildfires survivors 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.670 environmental justice communities, 00:45:02.670 --> 00:45:04.870 youth disability justice advocates 00:45:04.870 --> 00:45:07.050 and frontline communities and workers. 00:45:07.050 --> 00:45:11.130 And we're all working to restructure our energy system away 00:45:11.130 --> 00:45:14.640 from dangerous PG&E and toward community 00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:18.680 and worker controlled utility that meets our community needs 00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:21.230 because we know PG&E doesn't do that. 00:45:21.230 --> 00:45:23.590 So we need your attention and action 00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:26.980 on three issues and appeal to your heart 00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:30.570 and humanity as thousands are dying right now 00:45:30.570 --> 00:45:34.300 from COVID disproportionately impacting black indigenous 00:45:34.300 --> 00:45:37.570 and communities of color and needing help, 00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:39.843 including energy resilience. 00:45:40.790 --> 00:45:43.990 So the three parts are one. 00:45:43.990 --> 00:45:45.640 We need you to move quickly 00:45:45.640 --> 00:45:48.560 and transparently to revoke PG&E's licensed 00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:52.870 to operate as outlined in your plan of reorganization. 00:45:52.870 --> 00:45:55.000 There've been five offs that they've called... 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.020 That they've done this year. 00:45:57.020 --> 00:46:00.210 That's caused destruction with this wildfire 00:46:00.210 --> 00:46:03.863 and they violated Judge Alsup's orders for fire mitigation. 00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:08.460 Second, we need your action on 00:46:08.460 --> 00:46:11.160 that frontline communities need to be resilient 00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:14.410 through fire season and all the time 00:46:14.410 --> 00:46:17.680 we need microgrids to provide resilient power 00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:21.090 to facilities in our communities that are critical 00:46:21.090 --> 00:46:24.120 like our health clinics, our childcare centers 00:46:24.120 --> 00:46:27.160 our food distribution operations. 00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:29.300 And so the microgrid proceeding, 00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:34.210 proposal for the 200 million incentive is a good start. 00:46:34.210 --> 00:46:35.980 I will... And communities should be able 00:46:35.980 --> 00:46:38.580 to define those critical facilities, 00:46:38.580 --> 00:46:41.153 not the IO user PG&E. 00:46:41.153 --> 00:46:43.330 And we need to sustain those systems 00:46:43.330 --> 00:46:46.060 through a new microgrid tariff 00:46:46.060 --> 00:46:48.460 for environmental justice communities. 00:46:48.460 --> 00:46:53.150 The third part is we please don't let PG&E 00:46:53.150 --> 00:46:56.770 raise the rates on us for their fire negligence. 00:46:56.770 --> 00:46:59.380 PG&E should pay for their own mistakes 00:46:59.380 --> 00:47:02.690 and not customers that are harmed by them. 00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:05.230 During this pandemic we should actually freeze rates 00:47:05.230 --> 00:47:09.590 help vulnerable communities cancel utility debt. 00:47:09.590 --> 00:47:13.430 And those are three Christmas wishes for you today. 00:47:13.430 --> 00:47:14.263 Thank you. 00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:17.660 Thank you very much. 00:47:17.660 --> 00:47:19.693 Operator, the next caller, please. 00:47:21.850 --> 00:47:23.210 And I see no additional callers 00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:25.010 on the public comment television line, 00:47:25.010 --> 00:47:26.670 but again as a reminder, if you would like 00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:30.170 to make a comment, please press star one, unmute your phone 00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:33.223 and clearly record your name and organization When prompted. 00:47:39.710 --> 00:47:41.592 Okay, operator thank you. 00:47:41.592 --> 00:47:44.610 Since there's no one else coming online 00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:47.920 the public comment period is now closed. 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:49.850 Thank you all for those who called in. 00:47:49.850 --> 00:47:51.400 We appreciate hearing from you. 00:47:52.670 --> 00:47:56.430 Before I move on to the agenda, 00:47:56.430 --> 00:48:01.090 held and withdrawn agenda item, 00:48:01.090 --> 00:48:05.930 I would like to make a motion to hold on an item myself. 00:48:05.930 --> 00:48:08.660 I'd like to make a motion to hold item 42 00:48:09.730 --> 00:48:12.880 to the January 14th Commission meeting. 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.290 I would like additional time to consider changes introduced 00:48:17.290 --> 00:48:18.903 in the most recent revisions. 00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.070 Do I have a second to my motion? 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:22.903 Second. 00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:29.260 Thank you, it's been moved and seconded to move item 42 00:48:29.470 --> 00:48:33.290 to the January 14th, 2021 agenda. 00:48:33.290 --> 00:48:35.490 Will the agenda clerk, please call the roll? 00:48:37.930 --> 00:48:39.438 Commissioner Shiroma. 00:48:39.438 --> 00:48:40.271 Aye. 00:48:41.846 --> 00:48:43.861 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 00:48:43.861 --> 00:48:45.149 Aye. 00:48:45.149 --> 00:48:46.889 Rechtschaffen. 00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:47.722 Yes. 00:48:48.661 --> 00:48:50.483 Rechtschaffen. 00:48:50.483 --> 00:48:51.849 Yes. 00:48:51.849 --> 00:48:53.732 President Batjer. 00:48:53.732 --> 00:48:56.756 Yes, thank you, the vote is unanimous. 00:48:56.756 --> 00:48:59.540 I believe that Commissioner Rechtschaffen also have a change 00:48:59.540 --> 00:49:01.510 that he would like to make? 00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:02.580 Thank you, President Batjer. 00:49:02.580 --> 00:49:06.303 I would like to move item seven to our January. 00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:12.170 Second. 00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:17.050 A motion has been made to move item seven 00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:20.363 number seven to January 14th Commission meeting. 00:49:21.997 --> 00:49:24.623 Move, a motion has been made and seconded. 00:49:25.540 --> 00:49:28.440 Will the agenda clerk, please call the roll for this item. 00:49:29.600 --> 00:49:31.330 Commissioner Shiroma. 00:49:31.330 --> 00:49:32.921 Aye. 00:49:32.921 --> 00:49:34.782 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 00:49:34.782 --> 00:49:35.861 Aye. 00:49:35.861 --> 00:49:38.124 Commissioner Randolph. 00:49:38.124 --> 00:49:39.593 Yes. 00:49:39.593 --> 00:49:41.453 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 00:49:41.453 --> 00:49:42.550 Yes. 00:49:42.550 --> 00:49:44.040 President Batjer. 00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:46.810 Yes, thank you, the vote is unanimous 00:49:46.810 --> 00:49:50.241 to move item number seven to January 14th, 00:49:50.241 --> 00:49:51.633 agenda Of the Commission. 00:49:52.530 --> 00:49:55.743 Okay, these are the following changes to today's agenda. 00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.030 Item two will be held 00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:02.930 to the January 14th, 2021 Commission meeting. 00:50:02.930 --> 00:50:06.350 Item three will be taken up with our regular agenda today. 00:50:06.350 --> 00:50:09.840 Item four will be taken up with our regular agenda today. 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.840 Item 12, we be held until the January 14th, 2021 00:50:15.080 --> 00:50:16.530 Commission meeting. 00:50:16.530 --> 00:50:18.550 Item 24 will be held 00:50:18.550 --> 00:50:22.934 to the January 14, 2021 Commission meeting. 00:50:22.934 --> 00:50:24.584 Item 25 will be held 00:50:24.584 --> 00:50:28.130 to the January 14th, 2021 Commission meeting. 00:50:28.130 --> 00:50:31.816 Item 29 will be held to the January 14th, 00:50:31.816 --> 00:50:34.300 2021 Commission meeting. 00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:36.900 Item 37, will also be held 00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:41.510 until the January 14th, 2021 Commission meeting. 00:50:41.510 --> 00:50:44.060 Item 50 will be taken up 00:50:44.060 --> 00:50:48.963 with a Consent Agenda today and item 51 has been withdrawn. 00:50:51.640 --> 00:50:52.473 Okay. 00:50:57.420 --> 00:51:00.323 So those are the following changes to today's agenda. 00:51:01.560 --> 00:51:03.360 Before we move on... 00:51:05.248 --> 00:51:08.580 So before we move on to the consent items today, 00:51:08.580 --> 00:51:11.763 on our agenda, we will take up items 65, 00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:15.800 which I mentioned earlier is the discussion 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.740 of the 2021 rate implementation Edward Randolph, 00:51:19.740 --> 00:51:21.470 the Deputy Executive Director 00:51:21.470 --> 00:51:23.380 for Energy and Climate Policy 00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:25.240 will make today's presentation. 00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:26.440 Ed, are you on the line? 00:51:27.500 --> 00:51:29.320 I am here President Batjer. 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.530 Thank you, please go ahead. 00:51:31.530 --> 00:51:34.990 Okay, and Robert, I believe there's slides for this 00:51:34.990 --> 00:51:36.940 so you're gonna move through the slides 00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:40.913 and let me turn on my video. 00:51:43.930 --> 00:51:46.430 Good morning Commissioners, I am Edward Randolph. 00:51:46.430 --> 00:51:48.570 I am the Deputy Executive Director 00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:50.170 for Energy and Climate Policy 00:51:50.170 --> 00:51:53.790 at the Public Utilities Commission. 00:51:53.790 --> 00:51:55.280 I also have on the line with me 00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.070 to help with questions, Dorothy Duda, 00:51:57.070 --> 00:52:00.150 who is a program manager in charge 00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.773 of our cost and rates teams. 00:52:02.890 --> 00:52:05.790 Today, I'm gonna do a presentation as part 00:52:05.790 --> 00:52:07.680 of management reports. 00:52:07.680 --> 00:52:10.300 Looking at a number of advice letters 00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:13.020 that the energy division is currently processing 00:52:14.030 --> 00:52:17.220 that will impact rates in 2021. 00:52:17.220 --> 00:52:20.130 For a little bit of a procedural setup, 00:52:20.130 --> 00:52:22.790 these advice letters are advice letters that come in 00:52:22.790 --> 00:52:25.320 from all of the utilities in California 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.360 at the end of every year to make the final step 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.033 in implementing any rate increases. 00:52:33.136 --> 00:52:36.560 (indistinct) that occurred is the result 00:52:36.560 --> 00:52:38.480 of other decisions that the Commission 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.380 has made throughout the year. 00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:41.220 Example of other decisions 00:52:41.220 --> 00:52:45.120 that the Commission may have made (indistinct) 00:52:46.690 --> 00:52:49.230 The approval of general rate case plans, 00:52:49.230 --> 00:52:52.400 approval of wildfire mitigation plans 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:53.970 that would involve cost recovery 00:52:53.970 --> 00:52:58.970 in the approval of specific programs out there. 00:52:59.430 --> 00:53:01.100 So after the microgrid primer 00:53:01.100 --> 00:53:04.560 other clean energy program where the utilities 00:53:04.560 --> 00:53:06.710 were authorized to start collecting 00:53:06.710 --> 00:53:08.040 or tracking costs, 00:53:08.040 --> 00:53:11.000 here we would now allow them once those costs 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.840 are deemed reasonable to collect them and rates. 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.680 So the issues we're talking 00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:17.150 about and going through today, 00:53:17.150 --> 00:53:22.150 are the information presentation, advise letters 00:53:22.970 --> 00:53:24.780 that are ministerial. 00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:29.780 It is allowing the utilities to collect any rates 00:53:30.660 --> 00:53:34.970 on costs that were already approved and other decisions. 00:53:34.970 --> 00:53:37.780 Robert, if you could you go to the next slide, please. 00:53:37.780 --> 00:53:40.203 And I'll start with Pacific gas and electric. 00:53:45.042 --> 00:53:49.490 And as we start one, a huge caveat I need to make with all 00:53:49.490 --> 00:53:53.310 of these slides is with these advice letters 00:53:53.310 --> 00:53:56.920 for PG&E it's called an Annual True-Up Advice Letter. 00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.670 They're filed in November 00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:04.350 for rates that would go into effect in January. 00:54:04.350 --> 00:54:09.350 However, many parts of these rate changes are impacted 00:54:09.540 --> 00:54:13.950 by decisions that are typically made in December. 00:54:13.950 --> 00:54:18.720 So there are a number of items that are on agenda today. 00:54:18.720 --> 00:54:19.720 Some of which had been held 00:54:19.720 --> 00:54:24.033 over to the next month that impact these, 00:54:25.952 --> 00:54:29.740 the final outcomes of these advice letters. 00:54:29.740 --> 00:54:32.150 So some of the numbers we'll go through here 00:54:32.150 --> 00:54:34.970 we'll actually change before we get to January. 00:54:34.970 --> 00:54:38.140 So some of this should serve as a illustrative example 00:54:38.140 --> 00:54:39.560 of where we'll wind up and I'll talk 00:54:39.560 --> 00:54:44.560 about certain changes that we anticipate are occurring. 00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:46.350 You know, first step with PG&E 00:54:46.350 --> 00:54:47.850 and in a second, we'll move 00:54:47.850 --> 00:54:51.630 to the other slide that shows more specific pricing 00:54:51.630 --> 00:54:56.630 but for PG&E a large driver of their annual like true-up 00:54:58.540 --> 00:55:01.300 going forward into 2021. 00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:02.650 With the general rate case 00:55:02.650 --> 00:55:05.030 that the Commission approved last month. 00:55:05.030 --> 00:55:08.020 And it's Commissioner very well recall 00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:11.150 in that general rate case 00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:14.430 there is a decision made to not allow 00:55:14.430 --> 00:55:17.690 the rate increases that were authorizing that decision 00:55:17.690 --> 00:55:21.170 for 2021 to go into effect til March 00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:25.740 to allow for a few months of delay in those increases 00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:30.190 given the ongoing shelter at home impacts 00:55:30.190 --> 00:55:32.663 and the impacts on high winter bills. 00:55:34.448 --> 00:55:39.280 That change in the timing of when the GRC 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:43.660 would go into rates changes the calculations 00:55:43.660 --> 00:55:47.020 around the annual electric true-up. 00:55:47.020 --> 00:55:48.190 But then as part of that, 00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:53.190 this week PG&E filed a rate smoothing proposal 00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:57.633 as addendum to the electric true-up advice letter. 00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:01.510 What this rate smoothing proposal 00:56:01.510 --> 00:56:05.010 from PG&E responds to is the fact that 00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:08.590 with the changes in the GRC, 00:56:08.590 --> 00:56:10.280 the reality was going to be 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.020 if there was other changes were made 00:56:12.020 --> 00:56:17.000 that there would be a rate decrease in January, 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.810 but then a large rate increase in March. 00:56:20.810 --> 00:56:22.730 And then what PG&E is proposing 00:56:22.730 --> 00:56:26.010 at this point in time is to smooth that out, 00:56:26.010 --> 00:56:27.550 so that there, you know, 00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:29.740 it isn't a initial rate decrease 00:56:29.740 --> 00:56:33.290 followed two months later by a large rate increase. 00:56:33.290 --> 00:56:35.520 And instead proposing, you know 00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:39.360 smaller rate increase in January, 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.340 which will then reduce the rate increase 00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:44.053 in January, in March. 00:56:44.950 --> 00:56:46.580 And then before we move on to the next slide 00:56:46.580 --> 00:56:47.740 just because it's up here, 00:56:47.740 --> 00:56:52.180 the biggest drivers in the March rate change 00:56:52.180 --> 00:56:56.460 out there is the implementation of the general rate case. 00:56:56.460 --> 00:56:57.800 Robert can go back to the other slide 00:56:57.800 --> 00:56:58.743 for just a second. 00:57:00.550 --> 00:57:04.063 Is the general rate case decisions, 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.010 nuclear Commissioning surcharges, 00:57:08.010 --> 00:57:10.780 and then there are several decreases that were coming 00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:14.900 from the GRC involving 2017 tax cuts 00:57:15.950 --> 00:57:19.600 cost of capital decreases and PG&E 00:57:19.600 --> 00:57:23.160 unlike the other utilities, a slight decrease involved 00:57:23.160 --> 00:57:25.393 in their transmission costs out there. 00:57:26.560 --> 00:57:30.872 And then, I think I've covered everything else. 00:57:30.872 --> 00:57:33.103 And then we can move to the next slide Robert. 00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:39.760 Thank you, so this slide here we won't dwell 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.310 on all the numbers in here 00:57:41.310 --> 00:57:43.940 but actually it shows the difference 00:57:43.940 --> 00:57:46.320 between the original electric true-up 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:50.537 that was proposed by PG&E in November 00:57:52.900 --> 00:57:56.700 versus what they just filed several days ago here. 00:57:56.700 --> 00:57:59.210 So the original true-up would have resulted in, you know, 00:57:59.210 --> 00:58:02.580 13 to 14 or almost 15% rate increases 00:58:02.580 --> 00:58:06.430 for CARE and non-CARE customers. 00:58:06.430 --> 00:58:09.670 And the new proposal combined with the move 00:58:09.670 --> 00:58:14.297 to move the general rate case plan increases to March. 00:58:18.890 --> 00:58:20.640 Their proposal, and again, 00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:21.640 I want to emphasize this point, 00:58:21.640 --> 00:58:25.430 That their proposal we have not adopted this yet, 00:58:25.430 --> 00:58:30.430 it would result in 5.5% increase for care customer... 00:58:31.140 --> 00:58:35.960 For non-care and almost a 7% increase for care customers 00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:40.793 in January followed by smaller increases in March. 00:58:42.712 --> 00:58:44.263 Next slide, please, Robert. 00:58:50.460 --> 00:58:52.410 And then, also for PG&E, 00:58:52.410 --> 00:58:54.710 and we'll go through this for the other utilities as well. 00:58:54.710 --> 00:58:58.820 Other changes that happen in January and December 00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:02.280 that impact January rates or changes in every year 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.511 the calculations for the PCIA, 00:59:05.511 --> 00:59:10.511 the power charge and different adjustments. 00:59:11.210 --> 00:59:13.450 One of my least favorite acronyms, 00:59:13.450 --> 00:59:17.360 which is a charge that shows up 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.360 on rate payer bills that tracks potential cost shifting 00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:24.680 between bundle customers and customers 00:59:24.680 --> 00:59:29.680 who've moved to CCA customers to meet statutory requirements 00:59:31.100 --> 00:59:34.930 that the creation of the CCA does not result 00:59:34.930 --> 00:59:38.113 in cost increases for the bundled customers. 00:59:40.070 --> 00:59:41.840 And a few things to note 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.043 as we go through this slide and the others, 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:49.313 a big issue of debate around the PCIA charges. 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.843 The last few weeks has been how 00:59:53.902 --> 00:59:58.902 to amortize some large under collections 01:00:00.490 --> 01:00:04.370 from prior years where the utilities 01:00:04.370 --> 01:00:07.560 were not collecting the full amount 01:00:07.560 --> 01:00:11.270 of what the charge would otherwise be going forward. 01:00:11.270 --> 01:00:12.900 And there were some proposals 01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:17.130 for 12 month amortization and for 36 month amortization. 01:00:17.130 --> 01:00:21.200 All of the slides actually reflect the 36 month 01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:23.240 amortization proposals 01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:27.060 which reflects where the final decisions 01:00:27.060 --> 01:00:30.030 or proposed decisions are landing so far. 01:00:30.030 --> 01:00:31.540 I mean, another note why I won't go 01:00:31.540 --> 01:00:33.160 through each column in here, 01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:35.070 but can be a little confusing at times 01:00:35.070 --> 01:00:37.780 to talk about PCIA rate impacts 01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:41.493 on the CCA and the Direct Access Customers. 01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:44.530 It is hard to frame them 01:00:44.530 --> 01:00:49.530 as an average impact because your PCIA charge 01:00:49.740 --> 01:00:54.690 depends upon what year you left the service 01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:56.310 of the utility and moved over 01:00:56.310 --> 01:00:58.973 to having your generation provided by the CCA. 01:01:00.130 --> 01:01:01.680 So this shows that each one 01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:03.450 of what's referred to as the vintage year 01:01:03.450 --> 01:01:08.450 that is the year customers move from bundled utility service 01:01:08.870 --> 01:01:11.920 to CCA service happens. 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.390 And averaging it out would be... 01:01:15.620 --> 01:01:17.360 Would lead to misleading numbers 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.030 no matter how you've done it. 01:01:19.030 --> 01:01:20.810 So, so far, we've always found 01:01:20.810 --> 01:01:22.210 that the best way to present this is 01:01:22.210 --> 01:01:26.690 to point out the vintage year increases out there. 01:01:26.690 --> 01:01:29.110 So these would be largely bill impact. 01:01:29.110 --> 01:01:32.070 As you see these on CCA customers, 01:01:32.070 --> 01:01:35.573 as we implement the PCI rate change proposals. 01:01:37.580 --> 01:01:38.633 Next slide, please. 01:01:40.990 --> 01:01:43.043 And then with Southern California Edison, 01:01:45.022 --> 01:01:49.770 there is no proposed rate change for November. 01:01:49.770 --> 01:01:52.420 However, for February, 01:01:52.420 --> 01:01:57.040 there would be a rate increases proposed 01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:58.640 in their advice letters. 01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:03.640 Currently it would be roughly a 10% increase in bills 01:02:05.240 --> 01:02:10.240 for both care and non-care customers (indistinct) 01:02:10.850 --> 01:02:14.530 Large drivers on what this... 01:02:16.230 --> 01:02:19.410 What's driving these increases, the biggest category 01:02:19.410 --> 01:02:21.220 of drivers is what's in the... 01:02:21.220 --> 01:02:22.830 What's called the ERRA Account, 01:02:22.830 --> 01:02:25.000 the Energy Resource Recovery Account. 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.550 That's actually pending approval 01:02:26.550 --> 01:02:31.550 of an item today that covers the utilities generation 01:02:32.420 --> 01:02:33.480 and commodity costs. 01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:34.840 These are largely costs 01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:39.510 for providing electricity that are some 01:02:39.510 --> 01:02:41.740 of which are out of the utilities control, 01:02:41.740 --> 01:02:44.590 do that Pass throughs for fuel costs? 01:02:44.590 --> 01:02:48.150 And also will relate to under collections 01:02:48.150 --> 01:02:53.150 or over collections of costs in the prior year. 01:02:55.420 --> 01:03:00.090 There are also a number of balancing accounts 01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:01.910 in a balancing account is again, 01:03:01.910 --> 01:03:04.540 tracking expenses from prior years 01:03:04.540 --> 01:03:06.060 that have already been authorized 01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:09.693 by the Commission versus collections. 01:03:11.210 --> 01:03:15.190 And another big driver here is 01:03:16.364 --> 01:03:17.870 for approved transmission rates, 01:03:17.870 --> 01:03:22.130 which are rates that are actually out of PUC control 01:03:22.130 --> 01:03:24.300 and show is a pass-through. 01:03:24.300 --> 01:03:28.690 It's worth noting that one driver 01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:31.170 of some of the rate increases here has just been 01:03:31.170 --> 01:03:35.620 the increase in liability insurance wildfire costs 01:03:35.620 --> 01:03:37.423 for Southern California Edison. 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:39.660 Next slide please, Robert. 01:03:44.370 --> 01:03:45.850 And San Diego gas and electric. 01:03:45.850 --> 01:03:50.730 I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this slide either. 01:03:50.730 --> 01:03:53.020 I think these numbers will, 01:03:53.020 --> 01:03:58.020 it could potentially change a fair amount of-- 01:03:58.096 --> 01:04:00.730 I think you need to go back one slide (indistinct) 01:04:00.730 --> 01:04:01.940 Robert next slide... 01:04:01.940 --> 01:04:05.410 Back one slide, please Robert, thank you, Commissioner. 01:04:05.410 --> 01:04:10.410 We'll change, fairly significantly one way or another, 01:04:11.410 --> 01:04:15.290 depending on outcome of a proposed decision 01:04:15.290 --> 01:04:17.840 that President Batjer just held. 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.350 But illustratively, you can see 01:04:20.350 --> 01:04:25.350 if the various decisions and actually what's confusing 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:26.840 about this chart, 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:28.730 is the proposed decision is just held 01:04:28.730 --> 01:04:30.700 would not be reflected in this chart. 01:04:30.700 --> 01:04:32.720 This would reflect a version 01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:35.260 of that decision that was introduced 01:04:35.260 --> 01:04:38.450 but, revisions change that related 01:04:38.450 --> 01:04:42.657 to the the era account changes. 01:04:42.657 --> 01:04:44.050 But again, from a PG... 01:04:44.050 --> 01:04:46.190 From San Diego gas electric standpoint 01:04:46.190 --> 01:04:48.800 you can see relative to the other utilities. 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.800 The overall rate impacts for January are much smaller 01:04:56.220 --> 01:04:59.670 than the other utilities that changes 01:04:59.670 --> 01:05:03.370 in the ERRA forecast are... 01:05:03.370 --> 01:05:06.810 Would you know, significantly change it one way or another. 01:05:06.810 --> 01:05:10.433 Since the era forecast moved quite a bit. 01:05:12.828 --> 01:05:14.178 And the next slide, Robert. 01:05:17.690 --> 01:05:20.130 And then finally, I wanna focus a little bit 01:05:20.130 --> 01:05:23.480 on the small multi-jurisdictional utilities. 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:28.480 Those, you know, we oftentimes focus on the, you know, 01:05:28.580 --> 01:05:32.070 the big four utilities in California 01:05:32.070 --> 01:05:33.710 from the electric utilities, 01:05:33.710 --> 01:05:36.109 the big three San Diego gas and electric, 01:05:36.109 --> 01:05:38.250 Southern California Edison and PG&E. 01:05:38.250 --> 01:05:43.250 But the PUC also regulates several smaller utilities 01:05:45.870 --> 01:05:48.170 Bear Valley, Liberty utility 01:05:48.170 --> 01:05:51.470 which serves the Lake Tahoe area and Pacific Corp 01:05:51.470 --> 01:05:56.220 which serves some very rural areas in Northern California. 01:05:56.220 --> 01:06:00.360 They too have similar processes of truing-up their rates 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.110 or adjusting their rates at the beginning of each year. 01:06:04.380 --> 01:06:06.780 And so we're detailing those changes there 01:06:06.780 --> 01:06:11.070 to give the comparison impact. 01:06:11.070 --> 01:06:14.723 I do wanna put a big red flag around the Liberty numbers. 01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:21.200 We continue to have issues and concerns 01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:23.450 with the quality and the depth of information 01:06:23.450 --> 01:06:27.660 on some of the filings of Liberty and now, 01:06:27.660 --> 01:06:30.210 and some updated filings are not reflected 01:06:30.210 --> 01:06:33.940 in these slides would be showing significantly 01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:38.940 higher increases than what's proposed here. 01:06:38.957 --> 01:06:41.760 And so, Energy Division staff needs 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.500 to work through those numbers, but for the others, 01:06:45.500 --> 01:06:50.283 you can again see where they are on the trends there. 01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:52.930 And then another thing to note 01:06:52.930 --> 01:06:55.340 which is a driver for Bear Valley one way 01:06:55.340 --> 01:07:00.340 or another, and I did skip over for PG&E that is driving. 01:07:00.710 --> 01:07:04.680 Some of these increases is amortization 01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:12.483 of prior year collections that are due to delays 01:07:15.050 --> 01:07:20.050 or time it takes to get rate in GRC process. 01:07:20.240 --> 01:07:22.270 So some of these increases are again 01:07:22.270 --> 01:07:27.270 for cost collection that was authorized in prior years 01:07:27.640 --> 01:07:31.947 but hadn't been allowed to be collected in rates until now. 01:07:34.420 --> 01:07:35.370 Next slide, Robert 01:07:35.370 --> 01:07:38.140 I think that's the final slide that I have. 01:07:38.140 --> 01:07:40.303 Yeah, that's it on slides. 01:07:41.170 --> 01:07:42.670 The other thing I would like to note 01:07:42.670 --> 01:07:47.670 I don't have slides on, but as we do acknowledge that some 01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:54.320 of these rate increases are high, 01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:59.320 despite a lot of efforts from the Commissioners stakeholders 01:08:02.330 --> 01:08:06.523 to minimize the increases and find savings where we can, 01:08:07.560 --> 01:08:09.620 with the impacts of COVID, 01:08:09.620 --> 01:08:11.020 with the downturn in the economy, 01:08:11.020 --> 01:08:12.810 there is clearly an understanding 01:08:13.900 --> 01:08:16.880 of these impacts and ways to mitigate it. 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:19.760 So, and I can detail some of those if you'd like 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.647 but you know, there's a litany of efforts. 01:08:22.647 --> 01:08:24.100 The Commission has taken 01:08:24.100 --> 01:08:29.030 over the last nine months to minimize the impacts 01:08:29.030 --> 01:08:33.020 of bill increases over this timeframe, you know, 01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:35.573 including moratorium on disconnections, 01:08:36.887 --> 01:08:41.450 development of new amortization efforts to help people pay 01:08:41.450 --> 01:08:43.380 off their bills, 01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:47.320 reduction in charges for customers that use high amounts 01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:52.243 of electricity and massive outreach efforts 01:08:55.700 --> 01:08:59.420 to get more customers enrolled in the low income programs 01:08:59.420 --> 01:09:01.180 to reduce their rates. 01:09:01.180 --> 01:09:02.880 With that, any available question? 01:09:07.500 --> 01:09:09.110 And I think you said, Ed, 01:09:09.110 --> 01:09:12.210 also that Dorothy is also on the line with you 01:09:12.210 --> 01:09:14.883 to also field any questions that people may have. 01:09:15.980 --> 01:09:16.880 That is correct. 01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:19.973 Do any of the Commissioners have any-- 01:09:19.973 --> 01:09:22.278 Robert, move to the next slide, please, 01:09:22.278 --> 01:09:26.723 (indistinct) slide to have, okay, thank you. 01:09:28.821 --> 01:09:31.530 Do any of the Commissioners have any questions 01:09:31.530 --> 01:09:33.663 of Ed this time? 01:09:36.224 --> 01:09:39.860 Okay, seeing none, Ed, thank you very much 01:09:39.860 --> 01:09:42.660 for your presentation, we appreciate it greatly. 01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:45.523 And thank you, Dorothy, also being available. 01:09:48.550 --> 01:09:50.250 Thank you, no problem. 01:09:52.280 --> 01:09:55.883 All right, with the presentation completed, 01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.560 we will now take up the consent items. 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:02.053 I will entertain a motion. 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.073 So moved. So moved. 01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:07.530 Second. 01:10:07.530 --> 01:10:11.033 Is then moved and seconded to take up the consent items. 01:10:12.150 --> 01:10:14.300 Will the agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:17.210 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:10:17.210 --> 01:10:18.043 Aye. 01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:20.970 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:10:20.970 --> 01:10:21.803 Aye. 01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:23.933 Commissioner Randolph. 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:25.633 Yes. 01:10:26.790 --> 01:10:28.530 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:10:28.530 --> 01:10:29.990 Yes. 01:10:29.990 --> 01:10:31.510 President Batjer. 01:10:31.510 --> 01:10:36.510 Yes, the Consent Agenda has voted out unanimously. 01:10:36.610 --> 01:10:38.109 I believe that Commissioner Rechtschaffen, 01:10:38.109 --> 01:10:39.530 you would like to make remarks 01:10:39.530 --> 01:10:44.530 on items eight, 15, 19 and 23. 01:10:44.660 --> 01:10:45.523 Is that correct? 01:10:47.080 --> 01:10:49.704 Yes, President Batjer, thank you. 01:10:49.704 --> 01:10:52.890 Thank you. The first three items, 01:10:52.890 --> 01:10:56.830 concern transportation electrification decisions 01:10:56.830 --> 01:10:58.023 we just approved. 01:10:59.180 --> 01:11:00.670 We've been very busy this year 01:11:00.670 --> 01:11:02.714 on transportation electrification. 01:11:02.714 --> 01:11:05.010 And this is the culmination of some of those efforts. 01:11:05.010 --> 01:11:07.430 Each of these decisions take important steps 01:11:07.430 --> 01:11:10.993 to advance our transportation electrification goals. 01:11:10.993 --> 01:11:13.370 I just wanna summarize those very briefly, 01:11:13.370 --> 01:11:17.070 item eight, in item eight, we approved the new rate 01:11:17.070 --> 01:11:21.490 for San Diego gas and electric commercial EV customers 01:11:21.490 --> 01:11:25.720 in order to incentivize electric vehicle adoption. 01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.720 We know that getting rates correct is one 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.550 of the critical pieces of the puzzle. 01:11:31.550 --> 01:11:33.640 You know, electrifying our transportation system 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.140 one that we have the key responsibility 01:11:37.140 --> 01:11:40.740 for this new rate will save money compared 01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:42.060 to existing rates. 01:11:42.060 --> 01:11:46.630 Most specifically it eliminates demand charges 01:11:46.630 --> 01:11:51.630 and instead implements for customers, a subscription model 01:11:51.810 --> 01:11:54.080 which is very similar to the model we all see 01:11:54.080 --> 01:11:57.260 on our cell phone bills where customers buy a block 01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:01.010 of capacity that should be sufficient 01:12:01.010 --> 01:12:02.930 to meet their highest demand. 01:12:02.930 --> 01:12:05.700 And then they're encouraged to manage the charging 01:12:05.700 --> 01:12:09.020 to not go over that subscription rate. 01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:12.150 So we now have in place new, 01:12:12.150 --> 01:12:15.990 more easy friendly commercial rates for all three 01:12:15.990 --> 01:12:17.670 of our investor on utilities. 01:12:17.670 --> 01:12:18.503 That's a big deal, 01:12:18.503 --> 01:12:20.800 something the legislature wanted us to do. 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.530 I should note this was a challenging decision 01:12:23.530 --> 01:12:27.020 because it required us to balance the need 01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:29.500 to provide savings in order 01:12:29.500 --> 01:12:32.490 to promote electric vehicle adoption, 01:12:32.490 --> 01:12:33.610 at the same time keeping 01:12:33.610 --> 01:12:35.690 in mind the concerns that Director Randolph, 01:12:35.690 --> 01:12:38.720 President Batjer and others have so clearly articulated 01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.610 that we do not wanna be imposing any extra costs 01:12:41.610 --> 01:12:44.260 on other rate payers during COVID 01:12:44.260 --> 01:12:46.490 and the economic recession. 01:12:46.490 --> 01:12:49.320 For this decision I wanna express my deep thanks 01:12:49.320 --> 01:12:53.640 to ALJ Stephanie Long for doing such an excellent job 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.550 of working through many very skeptical issues. 01:12:56.550 --> 01:12:58.713 Also Massoud (indistinct), Paul Phillips 01:12:59.752 --> 01:13:02.960 and the race team Audrey Newman and Carrie Sisto 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.910 now LJ formerly Energy Division on 01:13:04.910 --> 01:13:07.330 that transportation electrification team 01:13:07.330 --> 01:13:10.090 and my advisors Simi George. 01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:13.490 Item 15 the second decision concerns, 01:13:13.490 --> 01:13:14.870 the low carbon fuel standard. 01:13:14.870 --> 01:13:18.280 Of course, this is a regulation that's adopted 01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:19.920 by the air resources board 01:13:22.386 --> 01:13:24.110 under the LCFS, 01:13:24.110 --> 01:13:27.540 electric utilities earned substantial revenues 01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:30.180 from the sale of credits 01:13:30.180 --> 01:13:33.390 because they provide clean transportation fuel 01:13:33.390 --> 01:13:36.580 for electric vehicles, which in this case is electricity. 01:13:36.580 --> 01:13:40.030 We share implementation authority with curb 01:13:40.030 --> 01:13:43.040 over how the proceeds of the revenues that the... 01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:45.840 That accrue to the utilities are spent. 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:49.580 So in prior decisions, we've allocated two-thirds 01:13:49.580 --> 01:13:54.010 of the funds for a point of sale, EV rebate program. 01:13:54.010 --> 01:13:57.650 That's known as the Clean Fuel Rewards program. 01:13:57.650 --> 01:14:00.070 In this decision the funds in question are how 01:14:00.070 --> 01:14:02.700 to spend the remaining one third 01:14:02.700 --> 01:14:07.390 of the funds, which could be up to $100,000,000 annually. 01:14:07.390 --> 01:14:10.980 We don't know exactly, but it could be quite substantial. 01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:13.880 What we've done here is we've authorized utilities 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.720 to spend these funds on a variety 01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:21.660 of EV projects with a very strong focused on equity. 01:14:21.660 --> 01:14:25.040 And in particular, we direct that 01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:30.040 by 2024 utilities dedicated at least 75% of their funds 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.350 for projects that serve underserved communities 01:14:34.350 --> 01:14:37.630 including electrification and battery swap programs 01:14:37.630 --> 01:14:40.220 for school, a transit buses, 01:14:40.220 --> 01:14:44.850 Public EV Charging Infrastructure, additional rebates 01:14:44.850 --> 01:14:49.130 and incentives for low-income individuals, and more. 01:14:49.130 --> 01:14:51.600 We did revise the decision in response 01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.570 to party comments to ramp up the requirement more gradually. 01:14:55.570 --> 01:14:57.100 So the decision actually starts 01:14:57.100 --> 01:15:00.480 with the directive to have 35% focused 01:15:00.480 --> 01:15:03.557 on underserved communities in 2021. 01:15:03.557 --> 01:15:08.470 And this increases by 10% a year, to 75% in 2024. 01:15:09.457 --> 01:15:12.010 And this actually better aligns with the structure 01:15:12.010 --> 01:15:15.403 of the overall requirement in curbs regulation. 01:15:16.910 --> 01:15:20.070 The remaining funds that will not be spent 01:15:20.070 --> 01:15:22.360 on underserved communities, 01:15:22.360 --> 01:15:26.380 we direct most of those to be spent on resiliency projects, 01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:28.270 which of course is another important priority 01:15:28.270 --> 01:15:29.490 for the Commission. 01:15:29.490 --> 01:15:33.070 These could be projects that insure EV charging 01:15:33.070 --> 01:15:36.050 will be available during power outages, 01:15:36.050 --> 01:15:37.500 the installation of charges 01:15:37.500 --> 01:15:41.660 in areas prone to wildfire safety problems 01:15:41.660 --> 01:15:45.210 or that allow the EV owners to use their batteries 01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:47.890 car batteries to power their homes and businesses 01:15:47.890 --> 01:15:49.583 when power is out. 01:15:50.660 --> 01:15:52.970 I want to take an incredibly hard working group 01:15:52.970 --> 01:15:55.770 that put this complicated decision together. 01:15:55.770 --> 01:15:58.090 That includes Audrey Newman, Sarah Cayman 01:15:58.090 --> 01:16:00.510 and Pete Scott of the Energy Vision. 01:16:00.510 --> 01:16:03.000 Judge Patrick Doherty our colleagues 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:05.240 at the Air Resources who were very constructive 01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:08.590 and helpful in working through these issues, Rajinder Sahota 01:16:08.590 --> 01:16:12.780 and Richard Corey, and my advisor, Julia Schmidt. 01:16:12.780 --> 01:16:16.630 And then the third item is item 19 01:16:16.630 --> 01:16:20.360 with one of the comments that Batjer talked about, 01:16:20.360 --> 01:16:24.474 it implements a legislative mandating SB-seven, 01:16:24.474 --> 01:16:27.540 676 rather to develop strategies 01:16:27.540 --> 01:16:31.283 and metrics to advance vehicle grid integration. 01:16:32.198 --> 01:16:33.470 A lot of vehicles grid integration 01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:36.200 has an order about it, but at bottom 01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:39.280 it's not that complicated. 01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:43.750 It refers to measures that encourage EV charging behavior 01:16:43.750 --> 01:16:48.400 at the times, and the locations that both minimize impact 01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:52.040 to the grid and allow EV's to be grid assets 01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:55.740 and also allow for potential revenue stream to the owners 01:16:55.740 --> 01:16:59.810 of EVs because of the ability of the EV to be great assets. 01:16:59.810 --> 01:17:01.700 This decision adopts a variety 01:17:01.700 --> 01:17:04.630 of strategies many than recommended. 01:17:04.630 --> 01:17:05.660 Most of them in fact 01:17:05.660 --> 01:17:10.150 recommended by a very hard working PGI working group. 01:17:10.150 --> 01:17:12.853 And this includes pilots up to $35 billion, 01:17:13.860 --> 01:17:17.230 studies about decreasing the cost of charging workshops 01:17:17.230 --> 01:17:20.060 on automated load management and so forth. 01:17:20.060 --> 01:17:24.780 There is a requirement to prioritize underserved communities 01:17:24.780 --> 01:17:28.650 like offering higher BGI rebates in those communities. 01:17:28.650 --> 01:17:30.120 I want to thank that same 01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:33.780 a similar hardworking team who put this decision together, 01:17:33.780 --> 01:17:36.530 Ed Pike and Sarah Kamins in the energy division. 01:17:36.530 --> 01:17:39.120 Judge Patrick Doherty, the most valuable player 01:17:39.120 --> 01:17:41.670 on electric vehicles for this meeting. 01:17:41.670 --> 01:17:44.520 And also my advisor Julia Schmidt again 01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.590 and also a special shout out to Gridworks 01:17:47.590 --> 01:17:48.940 which was our facilitator 01:17:48.940 --> 01:17:52.130 for that very working VGI group that I mentioned 01:17:52.130 --> 01:17:54.060 that produced a comprehensive report 01:17:54.060 --> 01:17:57.770 with 90 recommendations on actions to VGI. 01:17:57.770 --> 01:18:00.950 It also had an executive summary with fewer recommendations. 01:18:00.950 --> 01:18:02.570 So it was an overwhelming 01:18:02.570 --> 01:18:04.460 and the many hardworking stakeholders 01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:07.220 who participated in that group. 01:18:07.220 --> 01:18:08.550 So those are the three 01:18:08.550 --> 01:18:11.290 transportation electrification decisions. 01:18:11.290 --> 01:18:14.823 I wanna briefly comment about item 20. 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:22.860 We can't hear you. Cliff we can't-- 01:18:22.860 --> 01:18:24.600 Cliff we can't hear you. 01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:26.500 You're on mute Cliff. 01:18:26.500 --> 01:18:27.943 Hey, Cliff, you are on mute. 01:18:30.150 --> 01:18:32.373 Cliff, you're on mute. 01:18:37.590 --> 01:18:38.423 Cliff! 01:18:41.780 --> 01:18:44.563 I don't know how to get (indistinct) 01:18:46.870 --> 01:18:49.220 I wonder if the call dropped for him again 01:18:49.220 --> 01:18:51.003 the audio portion is dropped. 01:18:53.620 --> 01:18:55.770 Don't know that there's-- 01:18:55.770 --> 01:18:59.080 President Batjer, I'm happy to rotate 01:18:59.080 --> 01:19:01.230 til when we get him back. 01:19:01.230 --> 01:19:05.525 Okay, thank you, Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:19:05.525 --> 01:19:06.358 I don't know If there's anything we can do-- 01:19:06.358 --> 01:19:11.111 Really, he's very enthusiastically speaking (indistinct) 01:19:11.111 --> 01:19:13.150 He's in a great speech. 01:19:13.150 --> 01:19:15.970 Maybe I can just call his... 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:22.720 Maybe somebody can text him, or we can let him know 01:19:22.768 --> 01:19:24.665 I just did, but he didn't-- 01:19:24.665 --> 01:19:29.330 Okay, he's so engaged in his presentation 01:19:29.330 --> 01:19:31.080 so he's not gonna be looking at us. 01:19:33.490 --> 01:19:36.440 Okay, It looks like he's (indistinct) 01:19:36.440 --> 01:19:40.780 I believe you're gonna speak to item nine 01:19:40.780 --> 01:19:43.750 and item 22 Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 01:19:43.750 --> 01:19:45.490 Oh, okay, yes. 01:19:45.490 --> 01:19:47.540 And I've added an additional 01:19:47.540 --> 01:19:51.580 item 35 and a couple of more, but I will be brief. 01:19:51.580 --> 01:19:54.610 I thought this (Guzman laughs) 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:59.420 I wanted to just really reflect on something that you 01:19:59.420 --> 01:20:02.430 and the public were so eloquent about this morning 01:20:02.430 --> 01:20:05.960 which is COVID crisis and highlight for the public three 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.550 of the items that really focus on our response 01:20:09.550 --> 01:20:13.400 to ensuring that our vital utility stay connected 01:20:13.400 --> 01:20:15.800 as we heard from the public. 01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.773 So eloquently this morning again on the need to do so. 01:20:20.670 --> 01:20:24.420 And just wanted to share some of the most recent numbers. 01:20:24.420 --> 01:20:27.960 I know yesterday we had over 55,000 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.280 new COVID cases in California. 01:20:31.280 --> 01:20:33.853 The day before that we had 32,000. 01:20:34.980 --> 01:20:39.940 Similarly on December 13th, we had 85 COVID deaths. 01:20:39.940 --> 01:20:41.833 And yesterday we had almost 400. 01:20:43.850 --> 01:20:46.600 Some of the hospitals I know in the San Joaquin Valley 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.020 are out of bed and they're now resorting 01:20:50.020 --> 01:20:52.470 to the surge capacity. 01:20:52.470 --> 01:20:55.530 We all know this is serious and it is a crisis. 01:20:55.530 --> 01:20:59.090 And unfortunately it potentially can get worse. 01:20:59.090 --> 01:21:01.920 And so getting to these vital protections, 01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.770 I'll start with the disconnections resolution. 01:21:04.770 --> 01:21:05.963 Which is item nine. 01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:10.200 This is a citation program to make sure 01:21:10.200 --> 01:21:13.070 that as we transitioned from the moratorium 01:21:13.070 --> 01:21:15.250 when it is eventually lifted, 01:21:15.250 --> 01:21:18.120 we can guarantee that the utilities are abiding 01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:21.920 by these critical measures to prevent disconnection 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.640 throughout this year and in the future. 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:27.620 And just to remind ourselves 01:21:27.620 --> 01:21:30.980 the citations will focus on some critical elements. 01:21:30.980 --> 01:21:35.710 One is if the utilities do not meet the obligation 01:21:35.710 --> 01:21:37.880 of offering all the eligible services 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:40.670 to customers serve, eligible programs 01:21:40.670 --> 01:21:43.430 such as ISA, CARE, FERA. 01:21:43.430 --> 01:21:47.000 If they failed to offer a 12 month payment plan, 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:48.310 if they disconnect someone 01:21:48.310 --> 01:21:50.890 who's received a (indistinct) clench, 01:21:50.890 --> 01:21:53.363 if they're not abiding by the weather protection, 01:21:54.470 --> 01:21:58.750 if they require a deposit, which we have eliminated, 01:21:58.750 --> 01:22:01.393 if they require reconnection fees, 01:22:02.540 --> 01:22:06.850 is they violate the benefit of service process. 01:22:06.850 --> 01:22:07.683 And of course, 01:22:07.683 --> 01:22:11.380 if they do not fulfill their notification requirements. 01:22:11.380 --> 01:22:13.960 I wanna thank the UB division 01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:16.210 in particular and the energy division 01:22:16.210 --> 01:22:18.393 for all the work that was put in into this. 01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:25.040 (indistinct) in particular took a lead with me 01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:29.130 a helper in and with the oversight of Jeanette Lowe. 01:22:29.130 --> 01:22:32.060 We had excellent assistance from legal 01:22:32.060 --> 01:22:35.700 Sarah Thomas, Christopher Chou, and Candace Morey. 01:22:35.700 --> 01:22:38.700 And of course my BK partner, Liane Randolph 01:22:38.700 --> 01:22:41.187 and her staff Anand Durvasula. 01:22:42.620 --> 01:22:44.820 I also wanna thank my staff just 01:22:44.820 --> 01:22:47.690 in song and my previous chief (indistinct) 01:22:47.690 --> 01:22:50.870 who was very focused on making sure 01:22:50.870 --> 01:22:54.100 we had an enforcement component to our rules. 01:22:54.100 --> 01:22:57.930 Similarly, as it was mentioned by director Randolph, 01:22:57.930 --> 01:23:02.360 that item 22, the arrearage management plan, 01:23:02.360 --> 01:23:04.560 these are the resolutions that we approved 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:06.941 for the utilities as a reminder. 01:23:06.941 --> 01:23:08.020 These are the plants, 01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:10.900 that will be offered starting in February 01:23:10.900 --> 01:23:13.000 to assist customers even prior 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.900 to the moratorium being lifted on gas and electricity 01:23:16.900 --> 01:23:20.150 to give folks a pathway throughout this 01:23:20.150 --> 01:23:22.220 dealing with this year. 01:23:22.220 --> 01:23:25.890 This plan is a debt forgiveness payment plan 01:23:25.890 --> 01:23:28.550 for low income customers that are eligible 01:23:28.550 --> 01:23:32.773 for CARE and FERA that are over $500 in arrears, 01:23:34.226 --> 01:23:36.320 and for 250 in arrears 01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:38.013 if they're gas only customers. 01:23:39.290 --> 01:23:42.520 The IU will establish this payment plan to allow 01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.530 for forgiveness of up to $8,000. 01:23:45.530 --> 01:23:49.780 And unfortunately we do have customers in that situation. 01:23:49.780 --> 01:23:52.670 I wanna thank the energy division in particular 01:23:52.670 --> 01:23:54.913 Ben Menzies, Paul Phillips, 01:23:54.913 --> 01:23:58.160 (indistinct) and Keith Jane and Janell Sue 01:23:58.160 --> 01:24:00.200 who is now a public advocates, 01:24:00.200 --> 01:24:03.520 but was very instrumental in getting the program going. 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:04.413 Again, legal divisions are (indistinct) Thomas, 01:24:04.413 --> 01:24:09.413 (indistinct) Candice Maury and (indistinct) 01:24:10.040 --> 01:24:13.020 And again, Justin and (indistinct) 01:24:13.020 --> 01:24:15.810 And finally, the other item 01:24:15.810 --> 01:24:19.900 on here has to deal with our telecommunications service. 01:24:19.900 --> 01:24:24.720 And we know it is, as we heard again this morning 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:28.140 another basic utility that is so significant. 01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:30.730 We, this resolution provides 01:24:30.730 --> 01:24:34.410 for a 90 day moratorium on landline wireless 01:24:34.410 --> 01:24:38.280 and facility-based voice telecommunication providers 01:24:38.280 --> 01:24:40.803 for getting us through winter surge. 01:24:41.770 --> 01:24:44.870 And they will not be able to disconnect folks 01:24:44.870 --> 01:24:47.400 for late payments or non-payments. 01:24:47.400 --> 01:24:50.070 This also applies to the small business customers 01:24:50.070 --> 01:24:51.280 which is another sector. 01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:54.960 We know we've been hearing a tremendous amount of harm from. 01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:58.300 I just wanna thank also the communications division 01:24:58.300 --> 01:25:01.950 and their leadership for putting in a protection. 01:25:01.950 --> 01:25:03.790 As you know, the beginning of COVID 01:25:03.790 --> 01:25:05.640 there were some voluntary measures put in 01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:08.100 by the telecommunications providers, 01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:11.080 but this measure here this resolution ordering 01:25:11.080 --> 01:25:13.580 these protections to the next 90 days 01:25:13.580 --> 01:25:16.520 for this vital service to stay connected. 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:21.420 And finally, I just want two of our CSF three actually 01:25:21.420 --> 01:25:25.250 of our CSF are (indistinct) home grants that went out. 01:25:25.250 --> 01:25:27.540 Fortunately, the one that was mentioned in public comment 01:25:27.540 --> 01:25:29.210 we'll be working through a little bit more 01:25:29.210 --> 01:25:31.491 but hope to have it out in January. 01:25:31.491 --> 01:25:32.860 And, with these grants 01:25:32.860 --> 01:25:36.680 we will be serving an additional 740 households 01:25:37.660 --> 01:25:38.910 and new housing units. 01:25:38.910 --> 01:25:43.900 And that's all the new in last sincere at Sonoma County. 01:25:43.900 --> 01:25:46.560 So thank you for giving me the opportunity 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.823 to share that with all of you. 01:25:54.170 --> 01:25:56.720 Thank you Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:57.970 I believe that we have 01:25:57.970 --> 01:26:02.490 solved Commission Rechtschaffen technical issues. 01:26:02.490 --> 01:26:04.440 So we'll turn back to Commissioner 01:26:04.440 --> 01:26:09.343 Rechtschaffen for, I think he was commenting on item 23. 01:26:10.500 --> 01:26:11.619 Yes, thank you-- 01:26:11.619 --> 01:26:13.271 (indistinct) You're gonna have to start 01:26:13.271 --> 01:26:14.958 from the beginning 'cause we literally heard nothing. 01:26:14.958 --> 01:26:15.791 (President Batjer laughs) 01:26:15.791 --> 01:26:17.170 That's okay, and I have, I know 01:26:17.170 --> 01:26:19.840 that I talked a long time in this Consent Agenda, 01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:22.450 so I guess the gods wanted to cut me off 01:26:22.450 --> 01:26:23.810 and say enough like, 01:26:23.810 --> 01:26:25.610 I promise the people and gods in the future 01:26:25.610 --> 01:26:26.650 I won't talk so long. 01:26:26.650 --> 01:26:29.780 If you don't disconnect my phone. 01:26:29.780 --> 01:26:31.130 You were very passionate. 01:26:32.491 --> 01:26:36.160 Okay, I was talking loud enough and nobody was hearing me. 01:26:36.160 --> 01:26:39.570 The last item I wanted to comment on is item 23 01:26:39.570 --> 01:26:42.370 which adopted a renewable gas 01:26:42.370 --> 01:26:44.350 interconnection and operating agreement. 01:26:44.350 --> 01:26:45.690 I just wanted to say a couple 01:26:45.690 --> 01:26:48.290 of things about this decision. 01:26:48.290 --> 01:26:50.710 In particular, we revise the decision 01:26:50.710 --> 01:26:55.440 to the initial draft to specifically mandate reporting 01:26:55.440 --> 01:27:00.310 as required by the Air Resources Board rules that required 01:27:00.310 --> 01:27:02.730 that the interconnection project funded 01:27:02.730 --> 01:27:04.460 by the incentive, 01:27:04.460 --> 01:27:08.130 provide, result in greenhouse gas reduction. 01:27:08.130 --> 01:27:12.620 So that is now a mandatory reporting requirement. 01:27:12.620 --> 01:27:15.040 We work closely with the Air Resources Board 01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:18.520 on this decision and they support the use 01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.250 of CAP and trade funds that's provided here. 01:27:21.250 --> 01:27:23.690 Their position is that renewable natural gas 01:27:23.690 --> 01:27:27.262 in the pipeline reduces greenhouse gas emissions. 01:27:27.262 --> 01:27:30.470 And in particular, the Air board's CAP 01:27:30.470 --> 01:27:34.260 and trade regulations specifically exempts renewable gas 01:27:34.260 --> 01:27:37.090 from mitigation requirements that apply 01:27:37.090 --> 01:27:39.223 to fossil natural gas. 01:27:40.120 --> 01:27:43.780 And as shown by some of the documentation generated 01:27:43.780 --> 01:27:47.500 in implementation of the low carbon fuel standard program, 01:27:47.500 --> 01:27:50.020 renewable natural gas from dairies 01:27:50.020 --> 01:27:54.350 which the incentives here support is the source 01:27:54.350 --> 01:27:58.153 with by far the largest amount of greenhouse gas reduction. 01:27:59.200 --> 01:28:02.350 Finally, to minimize rate payer impacts, 01:28:02.350 --> 01:28:04.800 collection of the funds from this decision 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:09.800 will start in 2022 and will be spread out over two years. 01:28:09.900 --> 01:28:10.733 Thank you. 01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.720 Okay, thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:21.550 So I don't think there are any other comments 01:28:21.550 --> 01:28:24.600 on the Consent Agenda at this time. 01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:26.260 It seemed none, I'm gonna call 01:28:26.260 --> 01:28:30.220 for a very brief 10 minute break before we get 01:28:30.220 --> 01:28:34.970 into the next agenda item, which is our regular agendas. 01:28:34.970 --> 01:28:36.393 So 10 minutes break. 01:28:37.380 --> 01:28:41.500 It is 11:35, we will be back promptly at 11:45. 01:28:41.500 --> 01:28:42.667 Thank you. 01:28:42.667 --> 01:28:44.667 (break) 01:28:48.110 --> 01:28:49.520 Come back, please conference has resumed. 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:51.647 President Batjer you may proceed. 01:28:51.647 --> 01:28:53.040 Thank you Operator, we're going 01:28:53.040 --> 01:28:54.750 to need to establish quorum. 01:28:54.750 --> 01:28:57.333 Will the agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:28:58.410 --> 01:29:00.023 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:29:00.023 --> 01:29:01.490 Present. 01:29:01.490 --> 01:29:03.807 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:29:03.807 --> 01:29:04.640 Yeah. 01:29:05.553 --> 01:29:06.583 Commissioner Randolph. 01:29:07.550 --> 01:29:08.900 Yeah. 01:29:08.900 --> 01:29:10.123 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:29:10.123 --> 01:29:10.956 Yes, yes 01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.850 President Batjer. 01:29:14.850 --> 01:29:17.460 Year, thank you, we have established quorum. 01:29:17.460 --> 01:29:19.020 All right, we will now move on 01:29:19.020 --> 01:29:22.373 to the regular agenda items on the agenda today. 01:29:23.710 --> 01:29:27.177 Item number three is a telecommunications proceeding 01:29:28.870 --> 01:29:32.917 and that is Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:29:32.917 --> 01:29:34.700 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:29:34.700 --> 01:29:38.550 This proposed decision addresses 01:29:38.550 --> 01:29:41.050 confidentiality claims submitted 01:29:41.050 --> 01:29:44.643 by two major telecommunications company, 01:29:45.539 --> 01:29:47.880 AT&T and Frontier, 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:52.040 regarding a 2019 Commission sponsored report 01:29:53.010 --> 01:29:56.810 which identified very serious wire-line service 01:29:56.810 --> 01:29:59.993 quality problems in their network. 01:30:01.409 --> 01:30:03.330 The decision finds that the vast majority 01:30:03.330 --> 01:30:05.290 of information in the report 01:30:05.290 --> 01:30:08.770 which is called the Network Examination Report 01:30:08.770 --> 01:30:11.380 should in fact be publicly released, 01:30:11.380 --> 01:30:15.530 consistent with our confidentiality framework, 01:30:15.530 --> 01:30:19.380 which very heavily favors transparency. 01:30:19.380 --> 01:30:21.770 So just to remind folks, 01:30:21.770 --> 01:30:25.340 the report in question covered an eight year timeframe 01:30:25.340 --> 01:30:28.963 from 2010 to 2017. 01:30:28.963 --> 01:30:33.240 I found that service quality deteriorated over that period 01:30:33.240 --> 01:30:34.870 that the two carriers had been putting 01:30:34.870 --> 01:30:39.130 very limited investment into landline infrastructure, 01:30:39.130 --> 01:30:42.120 and that the networks were seriously lacking 01:30:42.120 --> 01:30:45.850 in resiliency to deal with environmental conditions. 01:30:45.850 --> 01:30:49.060 It also found that the service quality problems and the lack 01:30:49.060 --> 01:30:53.270 of investment were worse in lower income communities, 01:30:53.270 --> 01:30:57.500 and that the steepest deterioration in service quality 01:30:57.500 --> 01:31:00.733 occurred in the areas where there was a least complication. 01:31:01.740 --> 01:31:05.060 We know these problems are continuing 01:31:05.060 --> 01:31:07.420 by releasing most of the report. 01:31:07.420 --> 01:31:11.670 We're putting important analysis about the nature and extent 01:31:11.670 --> 01:31:16.030 of the service quality issues into the public domain 01:31:16.030 --> 01:31:19.700 where hopefully will help inform our ongoing discussions 01:31:19.700 --> 01:31:21.340 about these issues. 01:31:21.340 --> 01:31:25.090 And we, at the Commission are evaluating what next steps 01:31:25.090 --> 01:31:28.580 we should take to address these systemic issues 01:31:28.580 --> 01:31:31.220 that were highlighted in the network exam. 01:31:31.220 --> 01:31:32.513 And that persist. 01:31:34.120 --> 01:31:37.460 In comments on the proposed decision, 01:31:37.460 --> 01:31:40.480 some of the carriers express some concerns 01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:43.650 about the reach of the legal analysis here. 01:31:43.650 --> 01:31:46.653 They argued extended beyond the facts of this case. 01:31:47.510 --> 01:31:50.040 We made some appropriate revisions 01:31:50.040 --> 01:31:52.810 in response to these concerns. 01:31:52.810 --> 01:31:56.790 I'd like to thank the extremely highly committed team 01:31:56.790 --> 01:31:57.740 of lawyers who worked 01:31:57.740 --> 01:32:01.060 on this decision over the last several months 01:32:01.060 --> 01:32:03.690 they did a very thorough job 01:32:03.690 --> 01:32:06.503 of systematically evaluating one by one, 01:32:07.570 --> 01:32:12.400 the carriers confidentiality claims 01:32:12.400 --> 01:32:14.780 they redacted portions of the report. 01:32:14.780 --> 01:32:17.750 So that sections of it could be released even 01:32:17.750 --> 01:32:21.030 as these claims were being reviewed. 01:32:21.030 --> 01:32:22.350 I wanna thank (indistinct) 01:32:22.350 --> 01:32:25.590 Who was the lead attorney and did a terrific job 01:32:25.590 --> 01:32:29.660 of managing the project and working with our office. 01:32:29.660 --> 01:32:34.660 Fred Harris, Helen Miscavige, ALJ (indistinct) 01:32:35.420 --> 01:32:38.063 and MacDonald, Lisa Hernandez, 01:32:39.261 --> 01:32:41.740 (indistinct), Karen Eckersley. 01:32:41.740 --> 01:32:43.270 And we Fisher. 01:32:43.270 --> 01:32:47.690 I also wanna thank my advisor, Sidney George 01:32:47.690 --> 01:32:51.040 and my Bagley-Keene partner, President Batjer 01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:54.020 and her advisor, Michael Malaney. 01:32:54.020 --> 01:32:56.393 With that, I ask for your support on this item. 01:32:59.320 --> 01:33:01.500 Thank you, are there any questions for Commissioner Cliff? 01:33:01.500 --> 01:33:04.290 Commissioner Randolph, do you have a question? 01:33:04.290 --> 01:33:05.786 Oh, I don't have a question. 01:33:05.786 --> 01:33:06.619 I was just gonna comment. 01:33:06.619 --> 01:33:08.660 So I'll wait to see if anybody has any questions. 01:33:10.460 --> 01:33:14.253 Okay, seeing none, go ahead with your comment. 01:33:15.990 --> 01:33:19.810 Okay, I just wanted to give, you know 01:33:19.810 --> 01:33:22.830 some sort of special thanks to the legal division 01:33:22.830 --> 01:33:24.090 and Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:33:24.090 --> 01:33:26.950 for working through these issues. 01:33:26.950 --> 01:33:31.027 With the Commission is unique amongst state agencies 01:33:31.027 --> 01:33:34.180 because we have a statute that basically says, 01:33:34.180 --> 01:33:35.690 that it's a misdemeanor 01:33:35.690 --> 01:33:38.100 for us to release confidential information. 01:33:38.100 --> 01:33:40.280 So we have to be extremely careful 01:33:41.150 --> 01:33:44.810 and our legal division has done a great job 01:33:44.810 --> 01:33:47.880 of being very clear with our regulated entities 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:50.610 that we want information to be public. 01:33:50.610 --> 01:33:53.700 We will protect information when it needs 01:33:53.700 --> 01:33:54.570 to be confidential, 01:33:54.570 --> 01:33:58.110 but we are not going to just blanketly assume 01:33:58.110 --> 01:33:59.740 that everything should be confidential. 01:33:59.740 --> 01:34:01.400 And instead, we are gonna work 01:34:01.400 --> 01:34:04.490 through these issues carefully and thoughtfully 01:34:04.490 --> 01:34:07.980 and release as much information to the public as possible. 01:34:07.980 --> 01:34:11.450 So I really appreciate the work that they did 01:34:11.450 --> 01:34:14.940 on this decision to, you know 01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:17.340 provide the sunshine that is important 01:34:17.340 --> 01:34:19.360 for the public to see. 01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:20.193 So thank you. 01:34:23.328 --> 01:34:24.370 Thank you for Commissioner Randolph. 01:34:24.370 --> 01:34:25.203 Any other comments? 01:34:25.203 --> 01:34:26.717 Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:34:28.260 --> 01:34:29.950 Likewise, I wanted to thank judges 8 (indistinct) 01:34:29.950 --> 01:34:32.700 should be Mr. Burr and Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:34:32.700 --> 01:34:34.760 for this very thorough 01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:37.820 and very well-written decision after the legal division. 01:34:37.820 --> 01:34:41.090 Everybody mentioned in communications divisions. 01:34:41.090 --> 01:34:45.288 I think as Commissioner Randolph mentioned, 01:34:45.288 --> 01:34:49.690 this type of sunshining of what's actually happening 01:34:49.690 --> 01:34:51.590 in the world, is not just gonna help us 01:34:51.590 --> 01:34:53.420 to make better decisions 01:34:53.420 --> 01:34:56.460 and having our parties have access to that. 01:34:56.460 --> 01:34:59.640 But more importantly, it's going to allow customers 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:03.060 to know who's the better provider? 01:35:03.060 --> 01:35:05.120 where are the investments taking place? 01:35:05.120 --> 01:35:07.260 And, you know, we just talk every day 01:35:07.260 --> 01:35:09.213 about our service quality, 01:35:10.170 --> 01:35:11.780 actually having that transparency 01:35:11.780 --> 01:35:15.230 for the public is so tremendously important. 01:35:15.230 --> 01:35:19.590 And I look forward to carrying the same approach forward 01:35:19.590 --> 01:35:21.780 in a couple of the proceedings 01:35:21.780 --> 01:35:25.090 that has been, really awaiting this decision 01:35:25.090 --> 01:35:27.100 to set forth the right policy. 01:35:27.100 --> 01:35:28.520 So, thank you very much. 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.423 And I very much look forward to supporting this decision. 01:35:34.450 --> 01:35:35.850 Okay, thank you. 01:35:35.850 --> 01:35:37.440 I think we can move on 01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:40.590 and I will ask the agenda clerk to please call the roll 01:35:40.590 --> 01:35:42.033 on item number three, 01:35:43.290 --> 01:35:45.383 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:35:45.383 --> 01:35:46.670 Aye. 01:35:46.670 --> 01:35:48.680 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:49.513 Aye. 01:35:50.700 --> 01:35:52.740 Commissioner Randolph. 01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:53.573 Yes. 01:35:54.819 --> 01:35:56.330 Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:35:56.330 --> 01:35:57.163 Yes. 01:35:58.101 --> 01:35:59.350 President Batjer. 01:35:59.350 --> 01:36:01.780 Yes, Item three is passed unanimously. 01:36:01.780 --> 01:36:06.247 All right, we'll be done now to item four is an energy item. 01:36:06.247 --> 01:36:10.070 Commissioner Randolph that is yours as well. 01:36:10.070 --> 01:36:12.200 Thank you President Batjer, 01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:15.030 item four is a proposed decision 01:36:15.030 --> 01:36:18.550 that would approve a pilot program proposed 01:36:18.550 --> 01:36:22.580 by SoCalGas and San Diego Gas & Electric 01:36:22.580 --> 01:36:27.260 to implement a voluntary renewable gas carer. 01:36:27.260 --> 01:36:30.800 The carers would be offered to core customers 01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.430 of SoCalGas who are residential 01:36:34.430 --> 01:36:37.273 and small commercial and industrial customers. 01:36:38.190 --> 01:36:39.620 They would pay a premium 01:36:39.620 --> 01:36:43.070 if they elect to purchase the renewable gas 01:36:43.070 --> 01:36:45.613 just to step back for a minute. 01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.480 Development of renewable natural gas is consistent 01:36:50.480 --> 01:36:54.252 with the state's short-lived climate pollutant goals 01:36:54.252 --> 01:36:58.770 of reducing methane emissions in the state by 40%. 01:36:58.770 --> 01:36:59.890 It's also consistent 01:36:59.890 --> 01:37:02.960 with the significant investments we've made 01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:07.750 as required under SB-1383, to facilitate the interconnection 01:37:07.750 --> 01:37:11.643 of bio-methane to be gas pipeline system. 01:37:12.610 --> 01:37:16.467 We are also under a directive in SB-1440 01:37:18.330 --> 01:37:20.500 to determine whether to develop 01:37:20.500 --> 01:37:23.320 a renewable gas procurement standards 01:37:23.320 --> 01:37:25.610 for gas utilities. 01:37:25.610 --> 01:37:28.430 So this voluntary pilot program, 01:37:28.430 --> 01:37:32.170 the solitary tariff is complimentary 01:37:32.170 --> 01:37:36.080 to the effort under 1440, 01:37:36.080 --> 01:37:40.070 and could help us learn lessons that are useful 01:37:40.070 --> 01:37:42.380 for the determination we'll have to make 01:37:42.380 --> 01:37:44.800 including what the market is for renewable gas? 01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.000 What the contract's terms are? 01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.023 What sources might be available for renewable gas? 01:37:51.580 --> 01:37:55.620 Some customers of SoCalGas and San Diego Gas and Electric. 01:37:55.620 --> 01:38:00.350 They asked for this voluntary, renewable gas tariff. 01:38:00.350 --> 01:38:04.250 They have their own ambitious carbon reduction goals 01:38:04.250 --> 01:38:07.773 and they wanna reduce the natural gas footprint. 01:38:08.770 --> 01:38:10.090 In developing this tariff, 01:38:10.090 --> 01:38:13.320 we work closely with the Air Resources Board 01:38:13.320 --> 01:38:15.723 and they support the decision. 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.300 The point to note, this is a pilot program. 01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:20.830 We will evaluate the results 01:38:20.830 --> 01:38:25.093 from the first three years to decide if it should continue. 01:38:26.090 --> 01:38:27.840 Initially, many of the parties 01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:30.450 in the case reached the settlement 01:38:30.450 --> 01:38:33.560 but the decision here revises the proposed settlement 01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.770 in some very significant ways. 01:38:36.770 --> 01:38:39.100 The most notable change is 01:38:39.100 --> 01:38:40.630 that we revise the provision 01:38:40.630 --> 01:38:43.940 that would have allowed the gas utilities 01:38:43.940 --> 01:38:48.940 to procure up to 100% renewable gas from out of state, 01:38:50.790 --> 01:38:55.610 if the costs of in-state renewable gas were too high 01:38:55.610 --> 01:38:57.460 above a certain threshold. 01:38:57.460 --> 01:38:59.740 Under the pilot, as we revised it, 01:38:59.740 --> 01:39:04.740 at least 50% of the renewable gas has to be in California 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.360 or provide environmental benefits to California. 01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:11.073 So that's a very important change to make sure 01:39:11.073 --> 01:39:15.500 that this provides benefits to California. 01:39:15.500 --> 01:39:17.680 We made a number of other revisions 01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:21.960 most notably to address issues 01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:23.750 of the local environmental impact 01:39:23.750 --> 01:39:26.570 of dairy, that were raised quite forcefully 01:39:26.570 --> 01:39:28.920 by local communities that are impacted 01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:33.400 by air and water pollution from the dairies. 01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:36.240 One of these is a requirement that 01:39:36.240 --> 01:39:40.040 if renewable natural gas is procured from a dairy, 01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:43.270 the utility must submit an annual report 01:39:43.270 --> 01:39:44.690 on the dairies compliance 01:39:44.690 --> 01:39:47.580 with air and water pollution control standards. 01:39:47.580 --> 01:39:50.610 And also if there are any violations, 01:39:50.610 --> 01:39:53.560 explain those violations. 01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:56.120 This requirement is modeled closely 01:39:56.120 --> 01:39:57.630 on a requirement that we have... 01:39:57.630 --> 01:40:02.330 We previously adopted in the BioRAM program 01:40:02.330 --> 01:40:04.250 for facilities selling electricity 01:40:04.250 --> 01:40:06.110 from sustainable forestry. 01:40:06.110 --> 01:40:10.120 Biomass is compliance reporting about adherence 01:40:10.120 --> 01:40:13.720 to local to other environmental standards. 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:14.890 That's one change. 01:40:14.890 --> 01:40:18.110 Additionally, the marketing materials 01:40:18.110 --> 01:40:20.230 for the program that the utilities use 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.570 cannot portray renewable natural gas procurement 01:40:25.570 --> 01:40:28.730 as a solution to the local environmental impacts of dairies 01:40:28.730 --> 01:40:31.100 or any other bio-methane process. 01:40:31.100 --> 01:40:32.920 And in particular, 01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:35.620 the materials must disclose that while capturing 01:40:35.620 --> 01:40:39.080 bio-gas from dairies to produce renewable natural 01:40:39.080 --> 01:40:42.380 gas reduces GHG emissions therefore, that's, 01:40:42.380 --> 01:40:45.053 the point of this, that's the climate benefit. 01:40:46.280 --> 01:40:47.890 The materials have to disclose 01:40:47.890 --> 01:40:50.860 that renewable natural gas does not mitigate 01:40:50.860 --> 01:40:52.950 all the water, air and odor pollution 01:40:52.950 --> 01:40:55.933 from dairies that impacts local communities. 01:40:57.220 --> 01:40:59.990 We're also requiring a statement 01:40:59.990 --> 01:41:03.610 to hopefully provide some clarity and avoid confusion 01:41:03.610 --> 01:41:06.030 about whether renewable... 01:41:06.030 --> 01:41:07.790 Whether using renewable gas 01:41:07.790 --> 01:41:11.860 in appliances is safer or healthier. 01:41:11.860 --> 01:41:13.640 The answer is that it's not. 01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:17.230 Using renewable natural gas is not any safer 01:41:17.230 --> 01:41:19.700 than thoughtful gas 'cause the gas is still burned 01:41:19.700 --> 01:41:21.610 in buildings, appliances. 01:41:21.610 --> 01:41:25.020 Therefore, the marketing materials must be disclose 01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:27.301 that using renewable natural gas 01:41:27.301 --> 01:41:32.301 and gas appliances does not reduce indoor air pollution 01:41:32.470 --> 01:41:35.733 as compared to using regular fossil based natural gas. 01:41:37.100 --> 01:41:38.570 Two other requirements. 01:41:38.570 --> 01:41:42.640 There's a requirement about building electrification. 01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.090 The marketing materials are not allowed 01:41:45.090 --> 01:41:46.680 to make any comparisons 01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:50.150 or assertions about building electrification 01:41:50.150 --> 01:41:54.580 or include any statements that promote renewable natural gas 01:41:54.580 --> 01:41:56.513 over building electrification. 01:41:57.530 --> 01:41:59.710 And this includes a prohibition 01:41:59.710 --> 01:42:02.420 on making statements about the costs, impacts 01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:05.803 or desirability of building electrification. 01:42:07.300 --> 01:42:10.910 Finally, the materials that are marketed must disclose 01:42:10.910 --> 01:42:13.520 that purchasing renewable natural gas, 01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:16.160 under the tariff program will reduce the utilities, 01:42:16.160 --> 01:42:19.740 greenhouse gas obligations under the Air Resources Board 01:42:19.740 --> 01:42:22.650 Cap-and-Trade regulation. 01:42:22.650 --> 01:42:25.000 I think all of these are important safeguards 01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.020 to make clear the limitations of the renewable natural gas 01:42:29.020 --> 01:42:30.503 that is being procured. 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:35.220 We also changed the decision to give the utilities up 01:42:35.220 --> 01:42:37.380 to six months to decide whether 01:42:37.380 --> 01:42:38.933 to proceed with the tariff. 01:42:39.830 --> 01:42:43.320 This will give them time to see what the outcome is 01:42:43.320 --> 01:42:46.953 of the SB-1440 proceeding, I mentioned. 01:42:46.953 --> 01:42:50.770 And, that's important because if we decide 01:42:50.770 --> 01:42:54.770 to adopt a renewable procurement target, 01:42:54.770 --> 01:42:56.130 the utilities might be able 01:42:56.130 --> 01:42:57.680 to piggyback procurement 01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:02.070 for this tariff program with procurement 01:43:02.070 --> 01:43:03.600 of long-term contracts. 01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:07.500 If any result from the decision, and long-term contracts 01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:11.810 could facilitate the development of new 01:43:11.810 --> 01:43:13.130 and hopefully lower costs, 01:43:13.130 --> 01:43:16.180 renewable natural gas in California 01:43:16.180 --> 01:43:18.410 because it would allow additional facilities 01:43:18.410 --> 01:43:21.630 to make the investments needed for production 01:43:21.630 --> 01:43:24.190 and interconnection to the gas pipeline. 01:43:24.190 --> 01:43:27.250 So those are the changes I wanna thank everyone 01:43:27.250 --> 01:43:30.050 for their hard work on this very thorough decision 01:43:30.050 --> 01:43:32.253 that worked through many complicated issues. 01:43:33.470 --> 01:43:37.530 ALJ, Scarlet, Luang, Way Joe and Burt Mattson, 01:43:37.530 --> 01:43:42.090 energy division staff, (indistinct), Karen song, 01:43:42.090 --> 01:43:46.160 Nixon Johnny, my advisors Sandy Goldberg, 01:43:46.160 --> 01:43:51.160 my Bagley-Keene partner Martha, Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:43:51.270 --> 01:43:55.850 who was not agreeing with me on many aspects 01:43:55.850 --> 01:43:57.270 of this decision was... 01:43:57.270 --> 01:44:01.150 Gave me very valuable contributions and input. 01:44:01.150 --> 01:44:02.843 With that I ask for your support. 01:44:05.601 --> 01:44:07.281 Are there any questions or comments? 01:44:07.281 --> 01:44:10.145 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:44:10.145 --> 01:44:13.368 Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:44:13.368 --> 01:44:14.519 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:44:14.519 --> 01:44:17.230 And thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:44:17.230 --> 01:44:20.050 and particularly thank you to your staff, Sandy Goldberg 01:44:20.050 --> 01:44:23.437 for all those efforts in addressing some 01:44:23.437 --> 01:44:26.310 of the concerns that you have highlighted so well. 01:44:26.310 --> 01:44:29.350 I think particularly addressing the concerns 01:44:29.350 --> 01:44:31.920 of the environmental justice communities regarding 01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:35.880 the necessary marketing disclosures that are now required 01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:38.510 as you highlighted, it's really important 01:44:38.510 --> 01:44:42.020 for us to not complete greenhouse gas capture 01:44:42.020 --> 01:44:44.680 with actual pollution reduction. 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:46.780 And I think you've captured that. 01:44:46.780 --> 01:44:49.760 Especially when we're talking about these localized impacts 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:53.500 of the frontline communities who are adjacent 01:44:53.500 --> 01:44:56.870 to these major methane producing facilities 01:44:56.870 --> 01:44:59.520 and where the most notable impact is 01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:03.143 to their own air quality and their water quality. 01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:06.930 I also wanna share and just kind of highlight 01:45:06.930 --> 01:45:11.350 that this is not my concern with this approaches 01:45:11.350 --> 01:45:14.150 not against capturing methane in total. 01:45:14.150 --> 01:45:16.040 And that's why I was supportive 01:45:16.040 --> 01:45:20.670 of the very substantial investments that we approved 01:45:20.670 --> 01:45:24.410 on the Consent Agenda that you mentioned in your summary 01:45:24.410 --> 01:45:27.943 the 285 million for SoCalGas and 15.8 million 01:45:29.470 --> 01:45:32.680 for STG need to capture their missing weeks 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.430 and the 40 million of additional GHG funding 01:45:36.430 --> 01:45:38.030 to pay for the interconnection costs 01:45:38.030 --> 01:45:41.350 of these in-state facilities to the pipeline. 01:45:41.350 --> 01:45:43.110 So, I'm supportive those. 01:45:43.110 --> 01:45:46.560 I think, we have a statutory obligation 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:49.750 and we wanna see the capturing 01:45:49.750 --> 01:45:54.750 of these waste stream gas in our state in particular. 01:45:57.070 --> 01:45:58.930 So, we have to remember 01:45:58.930 --> 01:46:00.260 with all of these investments 01:46:00.260 --> 01:46:03.950 that, we're not just trying to capture methane, 01:46:03.950 --> 01:46:06.370 we're trying to reduce the pollution. 01:46:06.370 --> 01:46:08.350 And that is something related to what you said 01:46:08.350 --> 01:46:11.520 which is in the end, this gas will still be combusted. 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:15.220 It's still gonna create those issues, indoor, outdoor. 01:46:15.220 --> 01:46:17.890 It's gonna create those particulates 01:46:17.890 --> 01:46:19.330 from generating electricity, 01:46:19.330 --> 01:46:22.700 or it's gonna create the particulate when you're burning it 01:46:22.700 --> 01:46:24.200 in a car engine. 01:46:24.200 --> 01:46:26.420 So, this is... 01:46:27.690 --> 01:46:29.480 It's something that we can get kind 01:46:29.480 --> 01:46:32.910 of our strategies misaligned with in our strategy first 01:46:32.910 --> 01:46:36.700 and foremost must be to reduce pollution. 01:46:36.700 --> 01:46:41.383 And that's why this tariff is the more misaligned for me. 01:46:43.290 --> 01:46:44.440 And, as you said 01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:46.480 I think it's a little bit premature given 01:46:46.480 --> 01:46:48.850 that we have unfinished the actual proceeding 01:46:48.850 --> 01:46:52.810 which looking at the orangy goal. 01:46:52.810 --> 01:46:56.160 And, so when I see a tariff like this 01:46:56.160 --> 01:46:58.230 like the (indistinct) tariff or other tariffs, 01:46:58.230 --> 01:47:01.310 they're put in place to create a market. 01:47:01.310 --> 01:47:02.700 And creating a market 01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:06.940 for renewable gas is something 01:47:06.940 --> 01:47:09.505 I'm still not decided on. 01:47:09.505 --> 01:47:11.600 It has to be coupled 01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:13.540 with I'm sure what Liane will take care of 01:47:13.540 --> 01:47:18.450 which is a guaranteed reduction in the waste stream. 01:47:18.450 --> 01:47:21.410 And we don't have quite the lineup yet. 01:47:21.410 --> 01:47:24.470 So, I am also concerned 01:47:24.470 --> 01:47:27.220 that this is gonna roar a premium price 01:47:27.220 --> 01:47:30.170 that will result in facilities and particularly brokers 01:47:30.170 --> 01:47:33.840 from other States to gained mechanism 01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:38.483 and have the selling of important gas that is this gained. 01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:41.610 And I know you have an auditor for that 01:47:41.610 --> 01:47:43.203 but I still worry about that. 01:47:44.690 --> 01:47:47.750 So ultimately I feel like it's premature. 01:47:47.750 --> 01:47:51.520 I know that in the latest (indistinct) 01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:54.390 there's a discussion between the gas company and some 01:47:54.390 --> 01:47:55.780 of the environmental organizations, 01:47:55.780 --> 01:47:58.973 but, nonetheless that is using the high assessment. 01:48:00.400 --> 01:48:03.770 If you capture all the methods from these facilities 01:48:03.770 --> 01:48:05.250 we could only equate that to 01:48:05.250 --> 01:48:08.970 about 7% of our actual gas consumption needs. 01:48:08.970 --> 01:48:12.060 So, we can't develop a market for this. 01:48:12.060 --> 01:48:14.970 It's not something we wanna see grow, 01:48:14.970 --> 01:48:16.773 is something we wanna see reduced. 01:48:17.950 --> 01:48:21.880 So I hope that we could... 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:24.100 I would prefer that we would hold this until 01:48:24.100 --> 01:48:27.831 the 1441 proceedings are deliberated. 01:48:27.831 --> 01:48:31.280 And I would ask you to consider that. 01:48:31.280 --> 01:48:32.113 Thank you. 01:48:36.580 --> 01:48:40.868 Okay, are there any other comments or questions? 01:48:40.868 --> 01:48:43.618 Over to Commissioner Rechtschaffen on item number four. 01:48:47.810 --> 01:48:51.090 Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:48:51.090 --> 01:48:54.313 Well, if there are no other Commissioners 01:48:54.313 --> 01:48:58.251 then I could just respond very quickly to the Commissioner-- 01:48:58.251 --> 01:48:59.600 Yes, (indistinct) go ahead. 01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:01.360 Last point, right? 01:49:01.360 --> 01:49:02.360 We thought about that. 01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:07.340 I do think it's appropriate to go forward now 01:49:07.340 --> 01:49:10.580 with the protections and given the limited scale 01:49:10.580 --> 01:49:14.310 the abilities us to review this after a few years 01:49:14.310 --> 01:49:16.420 then also the hopeful learning 01:49:16.420 --> 01:49:20.560 that we can gain from a pilot 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:24.363 at that could inform the SB-1414 deliberations. 01:49:25.380 --> 01:49:28.430 But that's my inclination is to go forward 01:49:28.430 --> 01:49:30.080 and not to hold it at this point. 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:33.850 Okay, with that, 01:49:33.850 --> 01:49:36.293 I'm gonna ask you just to, Commissioner Shiroma 01:49:38.161 --> 01:49:39.961 do you have a comments or questions? 01:49:41.140 --> 01:49:41.973 Okay, sure. 01:49:44.500 --> 01:49:46.543 I support the pilot program. 01:49:47.950 --> 01:49:51.900 I Think that the Load of question 01:49:51.900 --> 01:49:54.160 that Commissioner Guzman Aceves raises 01:49:54.160 --> 01:49:59.160 about whether it's a good thing 01:49:59.750 --> 01:50:00.750 or whether it's wise 01:50:00.750 --> 01:50:05.373 to be supporting bio-methane altogether, 01:50:06.630 --> 01:50:10.910 is a, you know, as I suppose 01:50:10.910 --> 01:50:15.910 a larger question of, you know, Californians now, 01:50:16.950 --> 01:50:20.110 I feel that we have been here before us, 01:50:20.110 --> 01:50:21.920 is a pilot program, 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.693 that should inform the Senate bill requirements. 01:50:27.650 --> 01:50:30.990 We've had, you know (indistinct) amounts of discussions 01:50:30.990 --> 01:50:34.963 about dairies, landfills, waste water treatment plants, 01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:39.720 and capturing the methane generated 01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:41.993 by these types of activities, 01:50:43.090 --> 01:50:46.630 cleaning it up (indistinct) and so forth and long. 01:50:46.630 --> 01:50:49.250 It proved to be used in the pipeline. 01:50:49.250 --> 01:50:50.830 And I think we have an opportunity 01:50:50.830 --> 01:50:54.740 to learn a lot from this effort. 01:50:54.740 --> 01:50:59.730 It's a voluntary effort and, you know, 01:50:59.730 --> 01:51:02.893 my own experience in as my director, 01:51:04.080 --> 01:51:05.553 as part of the portfolio, 01:51:08.417 --> 01:51:09.820 as part of the green portfolio, 01:51:09.820 --> 01:51:13.810 for Sacramento County, got all 01:51:13.810 --> 01:51:17.130 of these dairies landfills, waste water 01:51:17.130 --> 01:51:20.960 and food waste as well. 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:25.960 So, I support the proposal. 01:51:26.160 --> 01:51:28.330 That's proposed decisions, thank you. 01:51:30.312 --> 01:51:34.392 Thank you, yes, Commissioner Randolph. 01:51:34.392 --> 01:51:35.563 Thank you. 01:51:35.563 --> 01:51:39.300 I agree with Commissioner Shiroma 01:51:39.300 --> 01:51:42.490 in the sense that I think having this pilot 01:51:42.490 --> 01:51:47.490 gives us the opportunity to learn some key information. 01:51:47.830 --> 01:51:50.570 And one of the questions I have in my mind 01:51:50.570 --> 01:51:54.750 which I think is still a big question 01:51:54.750 --> 01:51:59.380 is you know, does this activity, or does this tariff 01:51:59.380 --> 01:52:04.260 insent this colluding activity to continue? 01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:06.580 Or does it take advantage 01:52:06.580 --> 01:52:09.460 of a waste product that we can capture 01:52:09.460 --> 01:52:14.410 and prevent environmental damage 01:52:14.410 --> 01:52:16.183 by putting to another use? 01:52:17.646 --> 01:52:20.160 And I think the pilot may help us understand 01:52:20.160 --> 01:52:21.760 that as we think about that 01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:26.760 in the SB-1441 proceeding and how of that gets unpacked. 01:52:29.650 --> 01:52:34.560 So, I am supportive of moving this forward 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:38.453 and allowing this voluntary tariff to go into place. 01:52:39.910 --> 01:52:42.750 Okay, with that, I'm gonna ask the agenda 01:52:42.750 --> 01:52:44.250 clerk to please call the roll. 01:52:46.370 --> 01:52:48.200 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:52:48.200 --> 01:52:49.033 Aye. 01:52:49.970 --> 01:52:51.820 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:53.633 No. 01:52:54.910 --> 01:52:57.030 Commissioner Randolph. 01:52:57.030 --> 01:52:57.863 Yes. 01:52:59.290 --> 01:53:01.440 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:03.680 Yes, yes. 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:05.383 President Batjer. 01:53:05.383 --> 01:53:10.200 Yes, the vote is four ayes and one no 01:53:11.060 --> 01:53:12.003 the motion passes. 01:53:12.870 --> 01:53:17.100 Okay, moving on now to item 52 energy item 01:53:17.100 --> 01:53:20.020 and that's a Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:53:20.020 --> 01:53:21.739 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:53:21.739 --> 01:53:23.720 And this is a order extending a statutory deadline 01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:26.320 for Southern California Edison's application 01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:28.340 for a certificate of public convenience 01:53:28.340 --> 01:53:32.690 and necessity for the Alberhill System Project. 01:53:32.690 --> 01:53:37.270 And you will recall this project we had issued 01:53:37.270 --> 01:53:41.720 in August of 2018, a decision where we determined 01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:44.160 that we lacked the sufficient information 01:53:44.160 --> 01:53:46.470 to rule on the application, 01:53:46.470 --> 01:53:50.320 and redirected Edison to file a supplemental. 01:53:50.320 --> 01:53:52.250 As it did at this may. 01:53:52.250 --> 01:53:54.490 And energy division has been working hard 01:53:54.490 --> 01:53:56.310 reviewing the applications 01:53:56.310 --> 01:54:00.273 and they're currently undergoing (indistinct) 01:54:00.273 --> 01:54:05.196 And once it's complete, we'll most likely need some hearings 01:54:05.196 --> 01:54:07.930 and to draft a proposal. 01:54:07.930 --> 01:54:12.570 So due to that, and due to the, you know, 01:54:12.570 --> 01:54:15.570 recent filing relatively recent fines and medicine 01:54:15.570 --> 01:54:17.730 I'm gonna ask you to support an extension 01:54:17.730 --> 01:54:20.290 to December of next year, thank you. 01:54:25.370 --> 01:54:26.830 Thank you (indistinct) 01:54:26.830 --> 01:54:28.630 Are there any questions or comments? 01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:31.570 Hey, seeing none, may the agenda clerk 01:54:31.570 --> 01:54:33.583 please call the roll on item 52. 01:54:35.101 --> 01:54:36.470 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:54:36.470 --> 01:54:38.090 Aye. 01:54:38.090 --> 01:54:40.020 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:54:40.020 --> 01:54:41.560 Aye. 01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:43.019 Commissioner Randolph. 01:54:43.019 --> 01:54:44.163 Yes. 01:54:45.734 --> 01:54:47.200 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:54:47.200 --> 01:54:48.033 Yes. 01:54:48.953 --> 01:54:49.980 President Batjer. 01:54:49.980 --> 01:54:54.260 Yes, the vote is unanimous for item 52. 01:54:54.260 --> 01:54:57.099 Moving on now to item 53. 01:54:57.099 --> 01:54:58.749 And that is Commissioner Shiroma. 01:54:59.710 --> 01:55:01.560 Yes, thank you, President Batjer. 01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:05.830 Items 53, is a proposed additional order 01:55:05.830 --> 01:55:10.830 for proceeding 1907004, that involves 01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:13.660 the general rate case proceedings 01:55:13.660 --> 01:55:16.890 for the California American Water Company 01:55:16.890 --> 01:55:19.300 with tests for 2021. 01:55:19.300 --> 01:55:22.680 I'm asking for this extension of the deadline 01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:27.680 for completion from December 30, 2020 to September 30, 2021. 01:55:30.040 --> 01:55:33.910 We have navigated the COVID-19 environment very well 01:55:33.910 --> 01:55:36.680 but it has affected a number 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:39.540 of proceedings including this one 01:55:39.540 --> 01:55:43.603 in terms of delaying mediation and evidentiary hearings. 01:55:44.500 --> 01:55:47.440 Thus the need for virtual participation 01:55:47.440 --> 01:55:51.580 and the true-up of the resources required to ensure 01:55:51.580 --> 01:55:54.020 that those processes run smoothly. 01:55:54.020 --> 01:55:55.780 You know, originally it was anticipated 01:55:55.780 --> 01:55:58.210 that evidentiary hearings on all 01:55:58.210 --> 01:56:01.310 of the pending disputed issues would require more 01:56:01.310 --> 01:56:02.373 than three weeks. 01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:06.600 But presumably if all or some other disputed issues 01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:09.770 are resolved in mediation, the potential duration 01:56:09.770 --> 01:56:11.750 for evidentiary hearings could be less 01:56:12.648 --> 01:56:14.160 than we had anticipated. 01:56:14.160 --> 01:56:17.200 So to address these, the student issues 01:56:17.200 --> 01:56:20.980 the parties have engaged in extensive mediation 01:56:20.980 --> 01:56:22.564 provided the admission of 01:56:22.564 --> 01:56:24.470 while charged with updates in November. 01:56:24.470 --> 01:56:27.753 This person did just last month. 01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:32.370 And also again, this month overall 01:56:32.370 --> 01:56:35.210 a nine month extension of the deadline 01:56:35.210 --> 01:56:38.230 in this proceeding should allow for adequate time 01:56:38.230 --> 01:56:41.540 for parties to wrap up settlement negotiations 01:56:41.540 --> 01:56:45.030 and then for the Commission to hold evidentiary hearings 01:56:45.030 --> 01:56:47.741 if necessary to review the brief 01:56:47.741 --> 01:56:49.370 and to issue a proposed decision. 01:56:49.370 --> 01:56:50.320 I ask for your (indistinct). 01:56:50.320 --> 01:56:51.153 Thank you. 01:56:53.423 --> 01:56:54.256 And do you have any questions 01:56:54.256 --> 01:56:57.743 of Commissioner Shiroma on item 53? 01:56:58.980 --> 01:57:02.450 Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk 01:57:02.450 --> 01:57:04.220 please call the roll. 01:57:04.220 --> 01:57:05.629 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:57:05.629 --> 01:57:06.603 Aye. 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:09.433 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:57:09.433 --> 01:57:10.266 Aye. 01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:13.530 Commissioner Randolph. 01:57:13.530 --> 01:57:14.363 Yes. 01:57:15.250 --> 01:57:17.230 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:57:17.230 --> 01:57:18.396 Yes. 01:57:18.396 --> 01:57:19.890 President Batjer. 01:57:19.890 --> 01:57:24.350 Yes, thank you, item 53 is passed unanimously. 01:57:24.350 --> 01:57:26.647 Moving on to item 54, Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:57:26.647 --> 01:57:28.540 that's your item? 01:57:28.540 --> 01:57:31.310 Item 54 is an extension order. 01:57:31.310 --> 01:57:35.220 It concerns consolidated complaint proceedings 01:57:35.220 --> 01:57:39.030 between AT&T and TruConnect Communications. 01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:42.960 The presiding officer issued a decision 01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.761 in December that was subsequently appeal. 01:57:45.761 --> 01:57:47.122 (indistinct) everybody. 01:57:47.122 --> 01:57:52.080 The proceeding is due to expire on December 30th. 01:57:52.080 --> 01:57:53.360 Additional time is needed 01:57:53.360 --> 01:57:56.717 to prepare a modified presiding offices decision 01:57:56.717 --> 01:58:00.070 and to place it on the agenda of a Commission meeting 01:58:00.070 --> 01:58:01.520 for us to consider. 01:58:01.520 --> 01:58:04.430 I asked for your support to extend the proceeding deadline 01:58:04.430 --> 01:58:06.603 to June 30th of next year. 01:58:12.949 --> 01:58:15.310 Okay, thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:58:15.310 --> 01:58:17.923 Are there any questions or comments? 01:58:19.310 --> 01:58:20.950 It seems none, will the agenda clerk 01:58:20.950 --> 01:58:22.000 please call the roll? 01:58:23.062 --> 01:58:24.613 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:58:24.613 --> 01:58:25.446 Aye, 01:58:26.340 --> 01:58:28.198 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:58:28.198 --> 01:58:29.320 Aye, 01:58:29.320 --> 01:58:31.398 Commissioner Randolph. 01:58:31.398 --> 01:58:32.675 Yes. 01:58:32.675 --> 01:58:34.994 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:58:34.994 --> 01:58:36.469 Yes. 01:58:36.469 --> 01:58:38.719 President Batjer. 01:58:40.220 --> 01:58:45.220 Sorry, yes, the vote is unanimous on item 54. 01:58:46.590 --> 01:58:50.453 Moving now onto item 55, which is Commissioner Randolph. 01:58:52.770 --> 01:58:55.810 This is an expedited complaint proceedings 01:58:55.810 --> 01:58:57.830 concerning a customer's participation 01:58:57.830 --> 01:59:00.630 in the California Alternative Rates for Energy 01:59:00.630 --> 01:59:03.710 or CARE program and disputed charges 01:59:03.710 --> 01:59:06.380 over a four-month billing period. 01:59:06.380 --> 01:59:08.610 While an expedited complaint proceeding 01:59:08.610 --> 01:59:11.310 is technically not adjudicatory proceeding, 01:59:11.310 --> 01:59:12.760 as practice, we have adhered 01:59:12.760 --> 01:59:15.573 to the same deadline as an adjudicatory proceeding. 01:59:16.550 --> 01:59:18.950 So in this case, the original statutory deadline 01:59:18.950 --> 01:59:21.640 was August 5th, 2020. 01:59:21.640 --> 01:59:24.210 The deadline was subsequently extended twice due 01:59:24.210 --> 01:59:27.100 to difficult workload issues in the ALJ division 01:59:27.100 --> 01:59:31.080 and is now December 18th, 2020. 01:59:31.080 --> 01:59:32.590 The previous extensions were 01:59:32.590 --> 01:59:35.840 for short durations as requested by the ALJ. 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:38.130 However, that timing was not adequate 01:59:38.130 --> 01:59:39.730 to complete the proceeding. 01:59:39.730 --> 01:59:41.810 So for this extension we wanted 01:59:41.810 --> 01:59:44.000 to provide a little more time 01:59:45.021 --> 01:59:46.870 for the judge to complete the decision 01:59:46.870 --> 01:59:49.040 and for the Commission to deliberate. 01:59:49.040 --> 01:59:51.040 So this order extends the deadline 01:59:51.040 --> 01:59:54.450 by six months to June 30th, 2020. 01:59:54.450 --> 01:59:56.283 I ask for your support, thank you. 01:59:57.940 --> 01:59:59.270 Thank you, Commissioner Randolph. 01:59:59.270 --> 02:00:01.223 Are there any questions or comments? 02:00:02.940 --> 02:00:05.120 Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk please 02:00:05.120 --> 02:00:06.420 call the roll for item 55? 02:00:08.668 --> 02:00:10.205 Commissioner shiroma. 02:00:10.205 --> 02:00:11.793 Aye. 02:00:11.793 --> 02:00:13.916 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:00:13.916 --> 02:00:15.190 Aye. 02:00:15.190 --> 02:00:16.140 Randolph. 02:00:17.120 --> 02:00:18.710 Yes. 02:00:18.710 --> 02:00:20.460 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:00:20.460 --> 02:00:21.293 Yes. 02:00:22.515 --> 02:00:23.870 President Batjer. 02:00:23.870 --> 02:00:26.410 Yes, item 55 is passed unanimously. 02:00:26.410 --> 02:00:30.633 Moving on to item 56, Mr. Shiroma, that is your item. 02:00:32.100 --> 02:00:33.740 Yes, thank you, President Batjer. 02:00:33.740 --> 02:00:38.440 So items 56 is an essential order involving 02:00:38.440 --> 02:00:40.910 a proceeding that establishes the list 02:00:40.910 --> 02:00:44.820 of existing rail crossings for fiscal years 02:00:44.820 --> 02:00:49.790 2020 to 2021 and 2021 to 2022. 02:00:51.200 --> 02:00:56.200 This is a routine efforts by the Commission in terms 02:00:56.980 --> 02:01:01.040 of coordinating with all of the entities 02:01:01.040 --> 02:01:04.980 that are involved in rail crossings. 02:01:04.980 --> 02:01:08.500 Next, I'm asking for the extension to go 02:01:08.500 --> 02:01:13.500 from December 28th, 2020 to June 30th of next year. 02:01:14.910 --> 02:01:19.910 What happened is that as the COVID stay at home hit, 02:01:20.350 --> 02:01:24.420 we canceled the in-person pre-hearing conference. 02:01:24.420 --> 02:01:29.420 We have held that by phone, which worked very well 02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:32.790 during which each nominating party is afforded 02:01:32.790 --> 02:01:36.440 an opportunity to present their project nominations. 02:01:36.440 --> 02:01:40.660 Now, after that, the rail safety division 02:01:40.660 --> 02:01:45.660 finalized the 2021 priority list to include 36 nominations 02:01:46.830 --> 02:01:49.690 all projects submitted were found to be qualified. 02:01:49.690 --> 02:01:53.730 And then the Commission back in June of 2020, 02:01:53.730 --> 02:01:56.150 adopted an interim decision, 02:01:56.150 --> 02:01:58.800 which has adopted that priority list for purposes 02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:03.743 of allocating funds in the California grade separation fund. 02:02:05.090 --> 02:02:09.177 Meanwhile, we need to proceed with the, 02:02:11.140 --> 02:02:14.640 a proposed decision but the extension will provide 02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:19.640 for an opportunity to consider the record 02:02:20.570 --> 02:02:22.980 to assure that we've got all 02:02:22.980 --> 02:02:25.790 of the box checked and then to provide 02:02:25.790 --> 02:02:28.670 for a final decision to resolve this proceeding. 02:02:28.670 --> 02:02:29.503 Thank you. 02:02:33.420 --> 02:02:35.550 Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma. 02:02:35.550 --> 02:02:37.280 Any comments or questions 02:02:37.280 --> 02:02:39.793 of Commissioner Shiroma on item 56? 02:02:41.160 --> 02:02:44.090 Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk 02:02:44.090 --> 02:02:45.140 please call the roll. 02:02:46.444 --> 02:02:48.158 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:02:48.158 --> 02:02:48.991 Aye. 02:02:49.850 --> 02:02:52.143 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:02:52.143 --> 02:02:53.726 Aye. 02:02:53.726 --> 02:02:55.119 Commissioner Randolph. 02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:56.023 Yes. 02:02:57.358 --> 02:02:59.340 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:02:59.340 --> 02:03:00.173 Yes. 02:03:01.033 --> 02:03:02.640 President Batjer. 02:03:02.640 --> 02:03:05.590 Yes, the vote is unanimous for item 56. 02:03:05.590 --> 02:03:08.290 Moving on to item 57, that is mine. 02:03:08.290 --> 02:03:10.770 This order extending statutory deadline is 02:03:10.770 --> 02:03:15.770 for application 18-03-009 Southern California Edison 02:03:17.420 --> 02:03:19.080 and the San Diego Gas and Electric 02:03:19.080 --> 02:03:21.720 2018 nuclear deCommissioning 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:24.070 of the Cost Triennial Proceeding. 02:03:24.070 --> 02:03:26.160 The purpose of this reoccurring proceedings 02:03:26.160 --> 02:03:29.180 is to set the annual revenue requirements 02:03:29.180 --> 02:03:31.060 for the deCommissioning trust 02:03:31.060 --> 02:03:34.303 for the nuclear power plants owned by SCE, SDG&E. 02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:38.670 And to determine, whether actual expenditures 02:03:38.670 --> 02:03:41.280 by the utilities for deCommissioning activities 02:03:41.280 --> 02:03:43.350 are reasonable and prudent. 02:03:43.350 --> 02:03:45.580 In September, 2019, the Commission issued 02:03:45.580 --> 02:03:47.160 a phase one decision, 02:03:47.160 --> 02:03:50.690 on the nuclear fuel cancellation class and requirements 02:03:50.690 --> 02:03:54.330 on the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station, 02:03:54.330 --> 02:03:55.930 deCommissioning class estimates. 02:03:57.010 --> 02:04:00.460 Reef and reply briefs were filed in March of 2020 02:04:01.442 --> 02:04:03.370 and the Administrative Law Judge Robert Heggie 02:04:03.370 --> 02:04:06.983 who is currently drafting phase two proposed decision. 02:04:07.820 --> 02:04:12.150 An extension of the statutory deadline to June 19th, 2021 02:04:12.150 --> 02:04:14.600 is necessary to allow enough time 02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:16.470 to issue a proposed decision 02:04:16.470 --> 02:04:18.560 for public review and comments, 02:04:18.560 --> 02:04:20.800 and to allow, the Commission enough time 02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:24.070 to deliberate an issue its final decision. 02:04:24.070 --> 02:04:25.933 is that I asked for your support. 02:04:27.150 --> 02:04:28.950 Are there any questions or comments? 02:04:30.100 --> 02:04:32.020 Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk, 02:04:32.020 --> 02:04:33.083 please call the roll? 02:04:34.110 --> 02:04:35.930 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:04:35.930 --> 02:04:37.500 Aye. 02:04:37.500 --> 02:04:39.321 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:04:39.321 --> 02:04:40.407 Aye. 02:04:40.407 --> 02:04:42.636 Commissioner Randolph. 02:04:42.636 --> 02:04:43.583 Yes. 02:04:45.037 --> 02:04:46.760 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:48.350 Yes. 02:04:48.350 --> 02:04:50.120 President Batjer. 02:04:50.120 --> 02:04:53.620 Yes, the vote on item 57 is unanimous. 02:04:53.620 --> 02:04:54.870 Thank you. 02:04:54.870 --> 02:04:59.003 We're now moving on to item 58, Commissioner Randolph. 02:05:01.690 --> 02:05:06.410 Okay, this is a order instituting rulemaking 02:05:06.410 --> 02:05:08.120 on frontier service quality 02:05:08.120 --> 02:05:10.923 and disclosure of customer information. 02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:15.010 This proposed decision would extend the current 02:05:15.010 --> 02:05:19.490 statutory deadline to March 19th, 2021 02:05:19.490 --> 02:05:21.700 which is hopefully way more than we will need to 02:05:21.700 --> 02:05:24.950 because there was a proposed decision on this agenda 02:05:25.870 --> 02:05:27.590 but staff needed to hold it. 02:05:27.590 --> 02:05:30.570 And so we wanted to provide 02:05:30.570 --> 02:05:33.160 for this short extension to allow staff 02:05:33.160 --> 02:05:34.750 to do what they need to do 02:05:34.750 --> 02:05:38.500 and have the decision ready for Commission consideration. 02:05:38.500 --> 02:05:41.180 So I ask for your support of this item, 02:05:41.180 --> 02:05:42.830 extending the statutory deadline. 02:05:44.930 --> 02:05:46.020 Thank you Commissioner Randolph. 02:05:46.020 --> 02:05:47.883 Are there any questions or comments? 02:05:49.100 --> 02:05:51.060 Okay, seeing none, will the agenda clerk please 02:05:51.060 --> 02:05:51.893 call the roll? 02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:54.610 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:05:54.610 --> 02:05:56.080 Aye. 02:05:56.080 --> 02:05:57.930 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:05:58.767 --> 02:05:59.600 Aye. 02:06:00.580 --> 02:06:02.430 Commissioner Randolph. 02:06:02.430 --> 02:06:03.263 Yes. 02:06:04.391 --> 02:06:06.248 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:06:06.248 --> 02:06:07.591 Yes. 02:06:07.591 --> 02:06:09.490 President Batjer. 02:06:09.490 --> 02:06:14.490 Yes, that's the vote for item 58 is unanimous, 02:06:14.650 --> 02:06:17.250 moving to 59, item 59. 02:06:17.250 --> 02:06:19.350 Commissioner Randolph, that is also yours. 02:06:20.480 --> 02:06:24.370 All right, this is an extension order in the 02:06:24.370 --> 02:06:28.430 Sempra Safety Culture Order Instituting Investigation. 02:06:28.430 --> 02:06:31.290 This extension order relates to our investigation 02:06:31.290 --> 02:06:33.570 into the organizational culture and governance 02:06:33.570 --> 02:06:35.520 of Southern California gas company 02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:38.250 and it's parent company Sempra Energy. 02:06:38.250 --> 02:06:40.000 And whether they are effectively able 02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:42.470 to prioritize safely safety 02:06:42.470 --> 02:06:45.740 and adequately direct resources to promote accountability 02:06:45.740 --> 02:06:47.913 and achieve safety performance goals. 02:06:49.320 --> 02:06:52.170 This OII calls for Commission staff 02:06:52.170 --> 02:06:54.060 to produce a consultant's report 02:06:54.060 --> 02:06:57.900 evaluating SoCalGases, culture governance, 02:06:57.900 --> 02:07:01.870 policies, practices and accountability metrics 02:07:01.870 --> 02:07:04.683 after a string of serious safety incidents. 02:07:05.560 --> 02:07:08.190 The phase one study is currently underway, 02:07:08.190 --> 02:07:11.520 and we have a consultant who has made significant progress 02:07:11.520 --> 02:07:15.170 on aspects of the study, including document review 02:07:15.170 --> 02:07:18.270 virtual information briefings, conversations 02:07:18.270 --> 02:07:21.350 and interviews with company representatives. 02:07:21.350 --> 02:07:22.840 Unfortunately, this is an example 02:07:22.840 --> 02:07:25.970 of a proceeding that has been significantly impacted 02:07:25.970 --> 02:07:28.070 by COVID-19. 02:07:28.070 --> 02:07:29.860 Assessing an organization's culture 02:07:29.860 --> 02:07:32.200 necessarily requires site visits, 02:07:32.200 --> 02:07:35.420 such as in-person interviews and focus groups 02:07:35.420 --> 02:07:37.200 as well as direct observation 02:07:37.200 --> 02:07:40.400 of onsite work processes and environments. 02:07:40.400 --> 02:07:43.040 And those activities have been delayed due to the stay 02:07:43.040 --> 02:07:45.793 at home orders and social distancing requirements. 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:48.560 This work is expected to begin 02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:50.790 as soon as public health guidance allows 02:07:50.790 --> 02:07:54.330 for more safe travel and office access. 02:07:54.330 --> 02:07:56.990 We remain in continuing contact with the consultant 02:07:56.990 --> 02:07:59.890 to assess ways that the work can move forward. 02:07:59.890 --> 02:08:01.880 But given current circumstances, 02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:04.560 and uncertainty about access, 02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:07.890 we believe it is reasonable to extend the statutory deadline 02:08:07.890 --> 02:08:12.890 for phase one of this proceeding to December 31st, 2021. 02:08:13.670 --> 02:08:15.230 And I will just wanna take a moment 02:08:15.230 --> 02:08:17.550 to thank our safety policy division 02:08:17.550 --> 02:08:21.600 and legal division team along with ALJ Jessica Hecht 02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:23.460 for their continued efforts to try 02:08:23.460 --> 02:08:26.020 to keep this proceeding moving along. 02:08:26.020 --> 02:08:26.853 Thank you. 02:08:28.430 --> 02:08:30.320 Excellent, tank you. 02:08:30.320 --> 02:08:33.883 Are there any comments or questions of secretary... 02:08:35.100 --> 02:08:39.303 Commissioner Randolph on item 59? 02:08:40.793 --> 02:08:43.587 I said revert it back to my old role. 02:08:43.587 --> 02:08:44.800 (President Batjer laughs) 02:08:44.800 --> 02:08:47.160 Seeing that-- Exactly, getting a new job 02:08:47.160 --> 02:08:49.906 in the Biden administration for a moment. 02:08:49.906 --> 02:08:51.390 (President Batjer laughs) 02:08:51.390 --> 02:08:53.385 I know, why not? 02:08:53.385 --> 02:08:54.780 (President Batjer laughs) 02:08:54.780 --> 02:08:57.960 Okay, item 59, will the agenda clerk 02:08:57.960 --> 02:08:59.010 please call the roll. 02:09:00.240 --> 02:09:01.952 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:09:01.952 --> 02:09:03.400 Aye. 02:09:03.400 --> 02:09:05.429 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:09:05.429 --> 02:09:06.741 Aye. 02:09:06.741 --> 02:09:07.813 Randolph. 02:09:08.810 --> 02:09:10.350 Yes. 02:09:10.350 --> 02:09:12.490 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:09:12.490 --> 02:09:13.870 Yes. 02:09:13.870 --> 02:09:15.220 President Batjer. 02:09:21.679 --> 02:09:22.512 President Batjer. 02:09:24.150 --> 02:09:26.100 Sorry, I was on mute. 02:09:26.100 --> 02:09:30.773 Yes, so with that item 59 is passed unanimously. 02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:35.930 Moving on to item 60, it relates to item eight 02:09:35.930 --> 02:09:39.210 on the Consent Agenda and item eight was approved. 02:09:39.210 --> 02:09:41.863 So item 60, will we withdrawn. 02:09:43.289 --> 02:09:48.163 Item 61, also related to item 41 02:09:49.290 --> 02:09:52.720 on the Consent Agenda and item 41 was approved. 02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:55.820 So this item 61 is withdrawn. 02:09:55.820 --> 02:10:00.820 So then our final item is item 62 and that is mine. 02:10:00.920 --> 02:10:03.480 This order extending statutory deadline is 02:10:03.480 --> 02:10:08.250 for rulemaking 18-10-007. 02:10:08.250 --> 02:10:12.290 Implementation of utility wildfire mitigation plans. 02:10:12.290 --> 02:10:15.220 This proceeding was open to review the 2019 02:10:15.220 --> 02:10:17.037 wildfire mitigation plans 02:10:17.037 --> 02:10:19.280 for the California electric utilities 02:10:19.280 --> 02:10:21.243 and independent transmission owners. 02:10:22.442 --> 02:10:23.900 Through a series of decisions, 02:10:23.900 --> 02:10:27.460 The Commission acted on the 2019 wildfire mitigation plans 02:10:27.460 --> 02:10:30.290 for all electrical corporations. 02:10:30.290 --> 02:10:34.290 Assembly Bill 1054, moved approval 02:10:34.290 --> 02:10:35.890 of the wildfire mitigation plans 02:10:35.890 --> 02:10:39.570 to the Commission's New wildfire safety division. 02:10:39.570 --> 02:10:43.300 Utilities 2020 wildfire mitigation plans were addressed 02:10:43.300 --> 02:10:46.343 by series of wildfire safety division resolutions. 02:10:47.876 --> 02:10:50.910 Most issues from this proceeding have transitioned 02:10:50.910 --> 02:10:53.020 to the wildfire safety division. 02:10:53.020 --> 02:10:55.350 In recent Administrative Law Judge ruling 02:10:55.350 --> 02:10:58.400 requested party comment on the disposition 02:10:58.400 --> 02:11:02.360 of phase two issues 02:11:02.360 --> 02:11:05.093 and contemplate closing this proceeding. 02:11:05.970 --> 02:11:08.240 This decision extends a statutory deadline 02:11:08.240 --> 02:11:11.350 in this proceeding to June 30, 2021 02:11:11.350 --> 02:11:14.375 to address the remaining phase two issues. 02:11:14.375 --> 02:11:15.208 And with that, 02:11:15.208 --> 02:11:18.430 I request your support of this item 62. 02:11:18.430 --> 02:11:20.230 Are there any questions or comments? 02:11:21.630 --> 02:11:23.410 Okay, Seeing none will be agenda clerk 02:11:23.410 --> 02:11:24.483 please call the roll? 02:11:25.410 --> 02:11:27.410 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:11:27.410 --> 02:11:29.010 Aye. 02:11:29.010 --> 02:11:31.301 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:11:31.301 --> 02:11:32.134 Aye. 02:11:33.180 --> 02:11:35.270 Commissioner Randolph. 02:11:35.270 --> 02:11:36.890 Yes. 02:11:36.890 --> 02:11:38.768 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:11:38.768 --> 02:11:39.601 Yes. 02:11:41.013 --> 02:11:42.210 President Batjer. 02:11:42.210 --> 02:11:47.210 Yes, the item, item 62 is passed unanimously. 02:11:47.240 --> 02:11:48.310 Thank you all very much 02:11:48.310 --> 02:11:52.080 that completes our regular agenda review. 02:11:52.080 --> 02:11:55.210 I am going to call a lunch break or 45 minutes. 02:11:55.210 --> 02:11:58.740 It's 12:30, let's be back at 1:15. 02:11:58.740 --> 02:11:59.573 Thank you all. 02:12:15.224 --> 02:12:17.724 (indistinct) 02:12:18.980 --> 02:12:19.880 Thank you all for standing by 02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:21.740 today's conference has resumed. 02:12:21.740 --> 02:12:23.440 President Batjer, you may proceed. 02:12:24.700 --> 02:12:25.833 Thank you, Operator. 02:12:26.930 --> 02:12:29.080 We need to establish a quorum. 02:12:29.080 --> 02:12:31.280 Could the agenda clerk please call the roll. 02:12:32.650 --> 02:12:34.280 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:12:34.280 --> 02:12:35.760 Present. 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:38.808 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 02:12:38.808 --> 02:12:39.641 Yeah. 02:12:39.641 --> 02:12:41.295 Commissioner Randolph. 02:12:41.295 --> 02:12:42.128 Yeah. 02:12:43.049 --> 02:12:44.970 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:12:44.970 --> 02:12:45.803 Present. 02:12:47.177 --> 02:12:49.414 President Batjer. 02:12:49.414 --> 02:12:51.586 Yes, everyone is here. 02:12:51.586 --> 02:12:53.990 We have established a quorum. 02:12:53.990 --> 02:12:55.640 For management reports today, 02:12:55.640 --> 02:12:58.000 or for item 63 report on the discussion 02:12:58.000 --> 02:12:59.490 of recent consumer protections 02:12:59.490 --> 02:13:02.607 and safety activities management report, the annual report. 02:13:02.607 --> 02:13:07.000 And for item 64 manager report on administrative activities 02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:08.400 there are no reports. 02:13:08.400 --> 02:13:10.850 So we will move now to the Commissioner's report. 02:13:13.410 --> 02:13:18.360 And, this is a big day for us, and it's-- 02:13:18.360 --> 02:13:20.200 Wait, I have a question. 02:13:20.200 --> 02:13:22.923 I think I'm supposed to do a retirement resolution? 02:13:24.252 --> 02:13:26.100 (indistinct) You cannot have a question. 02:13:26.100 --> 02:13:28.360 What, Commissioner Randolph 02:13:28.360 --> 02:13:31.223 I think I'm supposed to do a retirement resolution. 02:13:32.070 --> 02:13:34.840 I thought that was coming later. 02:13:34.840 --> 02:13:35.750 Is that coming later? 02:13:35.750 --> 02:13:36.583 I don't know. 02:13:36.583 --> 02:13:37.900 Okay, I will follow your lead 02:13:37.900 --> 02:13:40.790 as long as you still have it on your list. 02:13:40.790 --> 02:13:43.740 I don't know what order we're doing everything in. 02:13:43.740 --> 02:13:45.690 Well, let me just explain what we're doing, 02:13:45.690 --> 02:13:46.590 so everybody know. 02:13:46.590 --> 02:13:50.440 I thought my trusty colleague, 02:13:50.440 --> 02:13:53.303 Mr. Gomez had explained this to everyone. 02:13:55.630 --> 02:13:57.670 I think he did, but I think I forgot. 02:13:57.670 --> 02:13:58.990 that is totally my bad-- 02:13:58.990 --> 02:14:02.040 Quite unbelievable, that's the first time ever in life 02:14:02.040 --> 02:14:03.360 I think you've forgotten something. 02:14:03.360 --> 02:14:08.360 So, I will speak and do my Commission reports first. 02:14:09.490 --> 02:14:12.003 Then we will turn to Cliff, 02:14:13.240 --> 02:14:15.550 and to Commissioner Rechtschaffen 02:14:15.550 --> 02:14:17.450 and then to Commissioner Guzman Aceves 02:14:18.410 --> 02:14:20.740 and then to Commissioner Shiroma. 02:14:22.010 --> 02:14:25.430 And then Rachel will say a few words, 02:14:25.430 --> 02:14:28.160 Rachel Peterson our acting Executive Director, 02:14:28.160 --> 02:14:32.240 and then we will turn to Commissioner Randolph 02:14:32.240 --> 02:14:35.170 to make her comments as well as 02:14:35.170 --> 02:14:39.563 to present a retirement certificate. 02:14:40.700 --> 02:14:42.163 Thank you. 02:14:42.163 --> 02:14:44.680 Okay, (President Batjer laughs) 02:14:44.680 --> 02:14:49.550 So, with that, I'm back to my Commission report 02:14:49.550 --> 02:14:53.430 and I must say it's sort of difficult 02:14:53.430 --> 02:14:56.080 and I'm gonna do it without tearing up. 02:14:56.080 --> 02:14:58.150 I've practiced a couple of times. 02:14:58.150 --> 02:15:01.283 So I have to stick to a script because I'm slumming. 02:15:02.660 --> 02:15:05.603 This is Commissioner Randolph last voting meeting. 02:15:06.690 --> 02:15:08.410 And it's really is quite something 02:15:08.410 --> 02:15:13.410 because she has had an extraordinary six years 02:15:14.120 --> 02:15:15.020 on the Commission. 02:15:16.900 --> 02:15:19.240 And we will be giving everybody 02:15:19.240 --> 02:15:24.240 an opportunity to say thank you and express their wishes 02:15:24.430 --> 02:15:28.283 to this extraordinary colleague in public service. 02:15:29.940 --> 02:15:31.680 As I said, it's both with joy 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:33.660 and truly a heavy heart 02:15:33.660 --> 02:15:36.990 that we wish Commissioner Randolph farewell 02:15:36.990 --> 02:15:39.670 and beyond good luck. 02:15:39.670 --> 02:15:42.520 As one of our public commenter today said, 02:15:42.520 --> 02:15:44.603 he's depending on you to save the planet. 02:15:46.200 --> 02:15:48.423 And I also think, we think you can. 02:15:51.369 --> 02:15:55.403 So, even this is your last Commission meeting, 02:15:56.830 --> 02:15:59.950 it will allow us today, take the opportunity 02:15:59.950 --> 02:16:04.900 to reflect on the numerous contributions 02:16:04.900 --> 02:16:07.000 that you have made to Commission over the six years 02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:08.700 that you have been a Commissioner. 02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:14.920 And, those contributions have been many 02:16:17.180 --> 02:16:19.040 and they've been deep. 02:16:19.040 --> 02:16:20.870 They have been both in terms 02:16:20.870 --> 02:16:25.750 of your intellect and the depth of your intellect, 02:16:25.750 --> 02:16:30.400 the depth of your ability to get to the heart 02:16:31.480 --> 02:16:33.960 of the matter before you, 02:16:33.960 --> 02:16:38.060 with both of legal mind and with a practical mind 02:16:38.060 --> 02:16:41.190 and with your eye out always for the rate payer 02:16:41.190 --> 02:16:42.313 and what is right. 02:16:43.930 --> 02:16:45.963 Is a rare combination my friend, 02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:50.810 I must say, in so many levels 02:16:50.810 --> 02:16:52.573 I will dearly miss you. 02:16:54.940 --> 02:16:58.790 However, Californians are very fortunate 02:16:58.790 --> 02:17:01.670 because you will be able to save the world 02:17:01.670 --> 02:17:05.453 as the incoming chair of the California Air Resources Board. 02:17:06.530 --> 02:17:08.430 I applaud our Governor 02:17:08.430 --> 02:17:12.013 for such an incredible choice that he made in you. 02:17:13.540 --> 02:17:17.020 And I am sure that you're the same professionalism 02:17:17.870 --> 02:17:21.660 intelligence and compassion that you've demonstrated here 02:17:21.660 --> 02:17:26.600 at the Commission for over these years will carry you well 02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:28.393 in your new role at CARB. 02:17:30.650 --> 02:17:33.093 On a personal note as a colleague and a friend, 02:17:34.190 --> 02:17:35.770 I cherish that. 02:17:35.770 --> 02:17:38.570 Liane has been someone who has guided me 02:17:38.570 --> 02:17:42.962 and given me her perspective and taught me 02:17:42.962 --> 02:17:47.962 and all along has been so patient in sharing her knowledge. 02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:56.040 And I think we were sort of in the foxhole together. 02:17:58.388 --> 02:18:01.494 Ms. Shiroma, he has an incredible background 02:18:01.494 --> 02:18:06.494 in all aspects of energy in particular, 02:18:06.670 --> 02:18:09.500 our integrated resource planning 02:18:09.500 --> 02:18:14.500 and our demand response programs and our resource adequacy. 02:18:16.970 --> 02:18:19.983 So when the (indistinct) storms of August hit, 02:18:22.472 --> 02:18:26.143 and we were in such a situation where customers 02:18:27.160 --> 02:18:31.010 were experiencing from the IOUs rolling blackouts 02:18:33.050 --> 02:18:35.803 Liane and I were at the wheel together. 02:18:36.760 --> 02:18:39.960 And it was her wisdom and her thoughts 02:18:39.960 --> 02:18:44.960 on this and her deep knowledge that helped guide me into... 02:18:45.630 --> 02:18:49.310 In the experience that I have never had before 02:18:49.310 --> 02:18:51.610 and hope never to have again. 02:18:51.610 --> 02:18:55.040 And that is having people's power turned off due 02:18:55.040 --> 02:18:56.803 to a lack of resources. 02:18:57.920 --> 02:19:02.920 And as I started to make a military analogy, 02:19:02.930 --> 02:19:05.490 I think once you're in the foxhole with somebody 02:19:05.490 --> 02:19:08.453 and you've gone through the battle, you're forever bonded. 02:19:09.430 --> 02:19:12.700 And, I'm only using this 02:19:12.700 --> 02:19:17.560 as one example of the tremendous contribution 02:19:17.560 --> 02:19:21.630 and dedication that Liane Randolph has made 02:19:21.630 --> 02:19:24.683 not only to the PUC, but to the people of California. 02:19:26.650 --> 02:19:29.850 They're extraordinary, my friend, and I'm gonna miss you. 02:19:29.850 --> 02:19:31.370 I don't even wanna think about it. 02:19:31.370 --> 02:19:34.363 I've been fighting it since August. 02:19:35.706 --> 02:19:37.130 I will not have you. 02:19:37.130 --> 02:19:42.130 We will not have more thoughtfulness your big brain 02:19:42.650 --> 02:19:44.763 and your big heart on our side. 02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:48.067 So thank you so much, that's the, 02:19:50.012 --> 02:19:53.290 I will now turn to my fellow Commissioners 02:19:53.290 --> 02:19:55.763 for some comments and their Commissioner reports. 02:19:56.651 --> 02:19:58.610 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 02:19:58.610 --> 02:20:02.670 Thank you, Liane, all these accolades you're getting 02:20:02.670 --> 02:20:04.353 are very richly deserved. 02:20:06.300 --> 02:20:10.690 I've also, I've had the pleasure of working with you. 02:20:10.690 --> 02:20:12.620 Well, maybe being in the foxhole, 02:20:12.620 --> 02:20:14.740 on the foxhole with you 02:20:14.740 --> 02:20:17.610 for the past 10 years when I was in the Governor's office. 02:20:17.610 --> 02:20:19.300 And you were in the resources agency 02:20:19.300 --> 02:20:22.780 in this for the past four years that we've been 02:20:22.780 --> 02:20:24.810 on the Commission together. 02:20:24.810 --> 02:20:29.430 And I'm very happy that you're staying in that big tent 02:20:29.430 --> 02:20:32.310 of California government and that we can get 02:20:32.310 --> 02:20:37.310 to work on climate and clean energy issues together. 02:20:37.800 --> 02:20:40.120 Actually, it's always been my dream to have someone 02:20:40.120 --> 02:20:43.620 at the Air Resources board who understands the relationship 02:20:43.620 --> 02:20:48.300 between net qualifying capacity and loss of load analysis. 02:20:48.300 --> 02:20:51.263 And now that dream has been realized with you at the helm. 02:20:52.580 --> 02:20:57.580 But, you will be a fantastic leader of that organization. 02:21:00.160 --> 02:21:03.980 Over the years, among many things 02:21:03.980 --> 02:21:07.610 I've come to realize just how uber competent 02:21:07.610 --> 02:21:11.580 and super professional you are. 02:21:11.580 --> 02:21:14.610 Someone who we can rely on. 02:21:14.610 --> 02:21:17.400 Everyone can rely on to get things done. 02:21:17.400 --> 02:21:18.780 And as President Batjer said, 02:21:18.780 --> 02:21:21.740 you've had a tremendous workload here, 02:21:21.740 --> 02:21:25.100 some of our most difficult challenging cases 02:21:25.100 --> 02:21:26.530 and you've handled them all 02:21:26.530 --> 02:21:31.530 with great humility and a lot of intellectual integrity. 02:21:33.500 --> 02:21:36.903 And you've worked through them calmly and methodically. 02:21:37.900 --> 02:21:39.360 We've all benefited from that. 02:21:39.360 --> 02:21:43.400 You've been a fantastic partner on the policy 02:21:43.400 --> 02:21:46.800 and governance committee and on the litigation committee. 02:21:46.800 --> 02:21:49.700 And you have this incredible knack 02:21:49.700 --> 02:21:53.610 for getting to the heart of issues quickly 02:21:53.610 --> 02:21:57.840 and then finding pragmatic solutions to them. 02:21:57.840 --> 02:22:00.480 That's really amazing. 02:22:00.480 --> 02:22:04.200 I also wanna thank you for, 02:22:04.200 --> 02:22:05.280 along with President Batjer, 02:22:05.280 --> 02:22:07.170 I wanna thank you for all the advice 02:22:07.170 --> 02:22:09.730 and guidance you've given me, 02:22:09.730 --> 02:22:12.760 not just when I first started to Commission, 02:22:12.760 --> 02:22:15.500 which was a lot, but throughout the whole time, 02:22:15.500 --> 02:22:17.620 all along the way, right up to the present, 02:22:17.620 --> 02:22:21.920 that's been very invaluable. 02:22:21.920 --> 02:22:25.503 So, lucky card we miss you, already. 02:22:26.340 --> 02:22:28.010 Good luck with everything. 02:22:32.300 --> 02:22:33.600 Thank you, Commissioner. 02:22:34.490 --> 02:22:38.600 We'll now turn to Commissioner, 02:22:38.600 --> 02:22:40.710 I believe, Guzman Aceves. 02:22:40.710 --> 02:22:43.510 Yeah, (indistinct) thank you President Batjer. 02:22:43.510 --> 02:22:46.520 I have a cup of water here for every a 10th 02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:47.570 of them and say here, 02:22:50.010 --> 02:22:52.740 but it's kind of amazing. 02:22:52.740 --> 02:22:55.050 I would say like cliff, you know, we have the privilege 02:22:55.050 --> 02:22:58.170 of knowing who you are before coming here. 02:22:58.170 --> 02:23:03.093 So now it hasn't been a total of 10 years and I just... 02:23:04.660 --> 02:23:07.170 I'm so grateful for everything that you've done 02:23:07.170 --> 02:23:10.043 for the state and for the friendship, 02:23:11.551 --> 02:23:14.070 of course, all the guidance and even like 02:23:14.070 --> 02:23:16.277 how can I disagree with somebody so many times 02:23:16.277 --> 02:23:19.070 and still like agree fundamentally 02:23:19.070 --> 02:23:20.763 on so many things as well. 02:23:21.650 --> 02:23:25.180 It's kind of this really amazing relationship 02:23:25.180 --> 02:23:28.093 where you have given me so much respect, 02:23:28.960 --> 02:23:31.020 even in times of disagreement, 02:23:31.020 --> 02:23:33.603 which I just cherish forever. 02:23:34.890 --> 02:23:38.660 I saw you first negotiating not just the climate, 02:23:38.660 --> 02:23:43.500 but maybe 52, which was at the time, 02:23:43.500 --> 02:23:45.870 an extraordinary policy where we were finally 02:23:45.870 --> 02:23:48.280 as a state, making a true commitment 02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:51.840 to holding our native nations as equal. 02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:56.000 And you spoke two languages when you were speaking 02:23:56.000 --> 02:23:59.190 to the largely a white male sequel attorneys 02:23:59.190 --> 02:24:03.310 within the whole administration, not just resources agency 02:24:04.631 --> 02:24:08.250 and some of the really tough attorneys on the tribal side. 02:24:08.250 --> 02:24:09.680 So any how is this? 02:24:09.680 --> 02:24:14.680 It was my first of many instances where you heard everyone 02:24:17.130 --> 02:24:19.840 you were able to speak multiple languages 02:24:19.840 --> 02:24:22.580 and come back together with a compromise 02:24:22.580 --> 02:24:25.870 that was really important and has still 02:24:25.870 --> 02:24:29.733 to this day created so much impact across our state. 02:24:31.620 --> 02:24:33.555 I also just... 02:24:33.555 --> 02:24:35.740 I'm very excited for you going to the Air board. 02:24:35.740 --> 02:24:40.080 I mean your commitment to everything that we're working on, 02:24:40.080 --> 02:24:44.270 not just on, not just on reducing greenhouse gases, 02:24:44.270 --> 02:24:48.670 but on adapting in the pace we never thought 02:24:48.670 --> 02:24:50.310 we'd have to adapt to. 02:24:50.310 --> 02:24:54.440 You're gonna go there knowing the impact of the great 02:24:54.440 --> 02:24:58.100 of that change more real than maybe anybody else 02:24:58.100 --> 02:25:00.240 'cause (indistinct) prepared for them. 02:25:00.240 --> 02:25:03.210 And of course, your dedication to disadvantaged communities 02:25:03.210 --> 02:25:05.373 in every single decision. 02:25:06.960 --> 02:25:08.150 I really like Cliff 02:25:08.150 --> 02:25:12.600 I'm looking forward to the energy sector, chapters 02:25:12.600 --> 02:25:14.240 of the scoping plan, 02:25:14.240 --> 02:25:17.169 and how much more detailed they're gonna be, 02:25:17.169 --> 02:25:19.650 and really challenging us appropriately. 02:25:19.650 --> 02:25:22.010 So I look forward to that challenge 02:25:22.010 --> 02:25:25.310 and I just look forward to actually being able 02:25:25.310 --> 02:25:27.653 to talk to you and consult more with you 02:25:28.800 --> 02:25:32.180 because we will not have seen that (indistinct) limitation. 02:25:32.180 --> 02:25:35.516 So, I love you very much, Liane 02:25:35.516 --> 02:25:37.463 and I thank you so much for your service. 02:25:39.950 --> 02:25:41.350 Thank you so much, Martha. 02:25:42.720 --> 02:25:43.950 Commissioner Shiroma. 02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:46.353 Thank you. 02:25:47.870 --> 02:25:51.430 Well, I joined my colleagues in thanking you 02:25:52.320 --> 02:25:56.130 Commissioner Randolph, for your service at the CPUC. 02:25:56.130 --> 02:25:59.890 We overlapped just under two years 02:25:59.890 --> 02:26:02.500 and I'm grateful for that time. 02:26:02.500 --> 02:26:05.680 Like you welcomed me warmly. 02:26:05.680 --> 02:26:09.533 And I soon learned what an unassuming tight-knit you are. 02:26:11.480 --> 02:26:13.160 For presenting some of the most complex 02:26:13.160 --> 02:26:18.160 and difficult proceedings to rules and procedures, reforms 02:26:18.640 --> 02:26:22.750 to methodically making some significant progress 02:26:22.750 --> 02:26:24.650 on our journey to a cleaner grid 02:26:24.650 --> 02:26:27.350 and a cleaner greenhouse gas footprint 02:26:27.350 --> 02:26:30.020 and leading the SC-100 efforts 02:26:30.020 --> 02:26:32.360 and mentoring staff all along the way, 02:26:32.360 --> 02:26:36.520 including my chief of staff, the warm testified. 02:26:36.520 --> 02:26:40.190 And a very fond memory of you and your team, 02:26:40.190 --> 02:26:42.670 including your advisor, Mr. Wong, 02:26:42.670 --> 02:26:44.020 who we'll hear about later. 02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:50.690 This vision of you and your team winning 02:26:50.690 --> 02:26:54.343 from the (indistinct) on PI day with PI. 02:26:57.620 --> 02:26:59.860 So we are honored by the Governor's appointment 02:26:59.860 --> 02:27:03.593 of you to be chairman of the California Air Resources Board. 02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:08.393 There will be many entry-level employees such 02:27:08.393 --> 02:27:12.090 as I was back in 1978, and you weren't there in 70 02:27:12.090 --> 02:27:16.703 but back in 78, and I was an entry level employee. 02:27:18.911 --> 02:27:21.920 There'll be people similar to me who will be looking 02:27:21.920 --> 02:27:26.920 up to you as chairwoman and will be inspired by you. 02:27:27.660 --> 02:27:31.163 And so in honor of Commissioner Randolph, 02:27:32.160 --> 02:27:33.663 I have written a poem. 02:27:36.597 --> 02:27:41.043 "California is lifted by your service. 02:27:42.130 --> 02:27:43.723 We basked in your light. 02:27:45.530 --> 02:27:46.990 Congratulations, Liane. 02:27:46.990 --> 02:27:47.823 Thank you." 02:27:49.060 --> 02:27:50.170 Look forward to continue to work 02:27:50.170 --> 02:27:53.253 with you on Transportation Network Company. 02:27:53.253 --> 02:27:56.430 (Commissioners laugh) 02:27:56.430 --> 02:27:57.670 Thank you. 02:27:57.670 --> 02:28:00.500 Thank you so much, Commissioner Shiroma. 02:28:00.500 --> 02:28:04.795 Now at long last, I turned to Commissioner Randolph 02:28:04.795 --> 02:28:10.760 for her own remarks, as well as a presentation 02:28:10.760 --> 02:28:15.760 to a long standing incredible employee of the Commission. 02:28:21.240 --> 02:28:24.690 Okay, all right. 02:28:24.690 --> 02:28:26.610 Let me gather myself for a moment here. 02:28:26.610 --> 02:28:31.470 Okay, so, first we get to honor Mr. Wong 02:28:33.010 --> 02:28:37.030 who started as my advisor, 02:28:37.030 --> 02:28:38.720 the day I walked in the door 02:28:40.200 --> 02:28:44.600 and he is retiring after over 34 years 02:28:44.600 --> 02:28:48.103 of dedicated service to the people of state of California. 02:28:49.390 --> 02:28:52.770 And spent more than 18 years 02:28:52.770 --> 02:28:57.770 as a Commissioner advisor, more than any other person. 02:28:59.130 --> 02:29:02.117 And he served Commissioners Richard (indistinct), 02:29:04.410 --> 02:29:09.410 Gregory Conlan, Jerry, I'm sorry, Henry Dukie, 02:29:10.010 --> 02:29:10.920 Michael Peevey. 02:29:10.920 --> 02:29:14.403 And then as I said, he was there when I walked in the door. 02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:18.880 His, those of you who have worked 02:29:18.880 --> 02:29:22.270 with Lester know that he has a deep knowledge 02:29:22.270 --> 02:29:27.270 of the telecommunications industry, the water industry 02:29:27.390 --> 02:29:31.513 and is always an incredible wealth of information. 02:29:32.660 --> 02:29:34.860 And he can tell you anything you need to know 02:29:34.860 --> 02:29:38.710 about railroad crossings and variances, 02:29:38.710 --> 02:29:40.660 50 variances and things like that. 02:29:40.660 --> 02:29:45.453 And he's just a consummate advisor. 02:29:46.290 --> 02:29:50.540 And he knows the rules at the PUC more than anyone. 02:29:50.540 --> 02:29:51.373 He can.. 02:29:51.373 --> 02:29:53.510 He knows what a decision different is. 02:29:53.510 --> 02:29:55.040 He knows what a mod pot is. 02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:57.900 He can tell you all these fuchsia table rules 02:29:57.900 --> 02:30:02.900 and is just able to guide any Commissioner 02:30:02.930 --> 02:30:07.930 through any bizarre complex procedural thing 02:30:08.220 --> 02:30:10.760 that we could think of. 02:30:10.760 --> 02:30:15.050 And he's just an incredibly kind warm 02:30:15.050 --> 02:30:20.050 and funny person who would always bring us little souvenirs 02:30:20.280 --> 02:30:21.683 from his travels, 02:30:22.850 --> 02:30:27.700 was a huge fan of the sweet. 02:30:27.700 --> 02:30:31.480 And we'd bring sweets in all the time for our 02:30:31.480 --> 02:30:34.643 what we affectionately called our short staff meetings. 02:30:36.302 --> 02:30:38.620 And he introduced me 02:30:38.620 --> 02:30:43.620 to the wool gather in Bakersfield, 02:30:45.730 --> 02:30:48.830 the Basque restaurant 02:30:48.830 --> 02:30:51.820 that every time I am anywhere near Bakersfield, 02:30:51.820 --> 02:30:54.370 I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to go get some tongue. 02:30:55.400 --> 02:31:00.400 And so we just really appreciate so much 02:31:01.905 --> 02:31:06.905 his time warmth and dedication to the people 02:31:08.080 --> 02:31:11.820 of California and his well-deserved retirement. 02:31:11.820 --> 02:31:16.820 So best of luck, Lester, and we will all miss you very much. 02:31:19.025 --> 02:31:22.442 (Commissioners clapping) 02:31:24.182 --> 02:31:25.660 Congratulations, Liane. 02:31:25.660 --> 02:31:27.810 I have to interrupt 02:31:27.810 --> 02:31:30.130 and I'm embarrassed to do this, 02:31:30.130 --> 02:31:35.130 but Rachel Pearson, our acting Executive Director 02:31:35.270 --> 02:31:37.977 and your former chief of staff, 02:31:37.977 --> 02:31:40.700 has some remarks that she would like to make as well. 02:31:40.700 --> 02:31:43.570 So before I turn it finally to you, 02:31:43.570 --> 02:31:45.950 and that was a lovely tribute to Lester 02:31:45.950 --> 02:31:49.000 I'm going to go back and turn to Rachel. 02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:50.650 And I apologize for that mistake. 02:31:54.430 --> 02:31:57.143 Okay, thank you, President Batjer. 02:32:00.070 --> 02:32:02.190 And I just would like to start off by saying 02:32:02.190 --> 02:32:05.690 that every heartfelt thing that the Commissioner just said 02:32:05.690 --> 02:32:10.690 about Lester Wong, I share 110%. 02:32:12.160 --> 02:32:14.560 So, good afternoon Commissioners. 02:32:14.560 --> 02:32:17.630 I have the special position and privilege 02:32:17.630 --> 02:32:19.520 of having worked for Commissioner Randolph 02:32:19.520 --> 02:32:21.803 for five years as her chief of staff. 02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:26.430 And there are two stories that I wanna tell that 02:32:26.430 --> 02:32:31.290 to me encapsulate her and her term at the CPUC. 02:32:31.290 --> 02:32:33.573 The first is from the very start of it. 02:32:34.870 --> 02:32:38.560 Commissioner Randolph, Liane, you were appointed 02:32:38.560 --> 02:32:42.240 by then Governor Jerry Brown at the end of December, 2014 02:32:43.490 --> 02:32:47.730 just a couple of weeks later in January, 2015, 02:32:47.730 --> 02:32:52.690 I walked with you into a conference room at the CPUC where 02:32:52.690 --> 02:32:56.650 the other four Commissioners were already deliberating 02:32:56.650 --> 02:32:59.760 on the enforcement and penalty cases that stemmed 02:32:59.760 --> 02:33:04.340 from the PG&E natural gas pipeline explosion 02:33:04.340 --> 02:33:06.143 and tragedy in San Bruno. 02:33:07.210 --> 02:33:09.980 They already had stacks and stacks 02:33:09.980 --> 02:33:12.860 of paper on the table about the cases. 02:33:12.860 --> 02:33:15.520 And those cases would eventually result 02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:17.265 in four different decisions for the Commissioners 02:33:17.265 --> 02:33:20.933 to vote on and only a few months heads. 02:33:21.930 --> 02:33:26.363 I think there were easily several hundred pages of material. 02:33:27.400 --> 02:33:30.400 I do remember distinctly the other Commissioners looking 02:33:30.400 --> 02:33:33.223 up in surprise, as you took your seat. 02:33:34.180 --> 02:33:37.350 Here was the newest Commissioner ready to deliberate 02:33:37.350 --> 02:33:41.290 on a case that had already deeply shaken the CPUC 02:33:42.140 --> 02:33:44.710 and would have consequences that reverberate 02:33:44.710 --> 02:33:46.203 even until today. 02:33:47.290 --> 02:33:49.770 I firmly believe that you had read most 02:33:49.770 --> 02:33:51.130 of those several hundred pages 02:33:51.130 --> 02:33:53.650 of draft decisions and background material, 02:33:53.650 --> 02:33:57.050 even before you sat down in the room that day. 02:33:57.050 --> 02:33:59.903 And that was one of my first introductions to you. 02:34:00.930 --> 02:34:02.750 Your appointment was not even really 02:34:02.750 --> 02:34:03.950 in the rear view mirror. 02:34:03.950 --> 02:34:04.830 And there you did. 02:34:04.830 --> 02:34:06.313 You sat down to work. 02:34:08.400 --> 02:34:10.470 My other story is more 02:34:10.470 --> 02:34:15.210 of a collage about our trips around California. 02:34:15.210 --> 02:34:16.850 This one is definitely bittersweet 02:34:16.850 --> 02:34:20.283 because COVID has impacted us so severely. 02:34:21.990 --> 02:34:25.550 But on numerous road trips over the years, 02:34:25.550 --> 02:34:28.990 we went and saw up close the essential infrastructure 02:34:28.990 --> 02:34:31.150 that serves California, 02:34:31.150 --> 02:34:33.480 the desalination plants on the coast 02:34:33.480 --> 02:34:36.590 in Carlsbad energy storage projects 02:34:36.590 --> 02:34:41.370 and many places, the Diablo Canyon nuclear power planta, 02:34:41.370 --> 02:34:45.430 gas and electricity control operations, test rides 02:34:45.430 --> 02:34:47.810 in autonomous vehicles 02:34:47.810 --> 02:34:49.743 and the, to have to be rail loop. 02:34:50.880 --> 02:34:53.360 But, and this is similar to what you just said 02:34:53.360 --> 02:34:56.330 about Lester, just as important as seeing 02:34:56.330 --> 02:34:59.663 the infrastructure was the food that we ate to sustain us. 02:35:00.510 --> 02:35:03.623 You kept control of the steering wheel of the car. 02:35:04.460 --> 02:35:06.120 You never let anyone else drive, 02:35:06.120 --> 02:35:07.620 but, you were always ready 02:35:07.620 --> 02:35:12.620 for Luang or Sean, Lester (indistinct), Suzanne Jason 02:35:13.320 --> 02:35:18.320 or to go Joanna or Jason Houck to search up the spot to eat. 02:35:18.610 --> 02:35:21.300 And so, our adventures in food 02:35:21.300 --> 02:35:25.760 as a team included that fast restaurant in Bakersfield, 02:35:25.760 --> 02:35:29.220 Pink Champagne Cake in San Luis Obispo, 02:35:29.220 --> 02:35:32.950 alternative sushi around the corner from the CPUC office 02:35:32.950 --> 02:35:37.950 in downtown LA and a certain Mexican stop and go place 02:35:39.280 --> 02:35:41.130 with the best mouses I've had in years, 02:35:41.130 --> 02:35:42.050 that I haven't been able 02:35:42.050 --> 02:35:44.693 to find somewhere outside of Sacramento. 02:35:46.680 --> 02:35:51.050 Thank you for everything you did as a CPUC for six years. 02:35:51.050 --> 02:35:53.410 Thank you for the close professional partnership 02:35:53.410 --> 02:35:55.050 that you and I shared. 02:35:55.050 --> 02:35:56.180 And that I know you shared 02:35:56.180 --> 02:35:59.420 with many staff around the Commission. 02:35:59.420 --> 02:36:01.210 I am so glad for California 02:36:01.210 --> 02:36:02.720 that we will continue to benefit 02:36:02.720 --> 02:36:05.560 from your talent and your leadership. 02:36:05.560 --> 02:36:06.393 Thank you. 02:36:08.880 --> 02:36:10.250 Thank you, Rachel. 02:36:10.250 --> 02:36:11.670 That was lovely. 02:36:11.670 --> 02:36:16.483 Now, turn to Liane for her last Commissioner's report. 02:36:17.990 --> 02:36:21.423 All right, thanks everybody. 02:36:23.064 --> 02:36:25.890 So, for those of you who've been following the Commission 02:36:25.890 --> 02:36:27.740 for the last six years, you will know 02:36:27.740 --> 02:36:31.890 that speeches are kind of, not really my thing. 02:36:31.890 --> 02:36:35.310 I generally try to keep the remarks short and to the point 02:36:35.310 --> 02:36:38.810 and I am forever forgetting to think about something to do 02:36:38.810 --> 02:36:40.313 for Commissioner reports. 02:36:42.530 --> 02:36:44.960 But of course, it is the tradition 02:36:44.960 --> 02:36:47.913 at the CPUC to share some parting words of wisdom. 02:36:48.920 --> 02:36:50.500 And if you're Carla Peterman 02:36:50.500 --> 02:36:53.010 you may even get a standing ovation. 02:36:53.010 --> 02:36:55.357 But fortunately there's no standing ovations on WebEx. 02:36:55.357 --> 02:36:57.050 And so the bar is really low. 02:36:57.050 --> 02:36:58.143 So that's good. 02:36:59.960 --> 02:37:02.383 First, a few thank you's. 02:37:04.580 --> 02:37:06.120 First, you know, my colleagues here 02:37:06.120 --> 02:37:11.030 on the dias all through the years have been amazing. 02:37:11.030 --> 02:37:14.250 Michael picker, Kathy Sandoval, Mike Florio 02:37:14.250 --> 02:37:18.283 in my first years, and you all know, 02:37:20.661 --> 02:37:22.240 I have lots more to say 02:37:22.240 --> 02:37:24.910 about you at our staff farewell party 02:37:24.910 --> 02:37:29.910 but I would just summarize it by saying 02:37:30.600 --> 02:37:35.600 I have learned so much from my colleagues here. 02:37:37.240 --> 02:37:41.133 I can't even tell you, you know, 02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:48.120 the smarts, the compassion 02:37:48.130 --> 02:37:52.310 the careful attention to what's best for the public 02:37:52.310 --> 02:37:57.310 all four of you share those basic components. 02:37:57.510 --> 02:38:02.510 And I think that the state is so fortunate to have you 02:38:02.750 --> 02:38:07.170 and I wish people out there understood more 02:38:07.170 --> 02:38:10.383 about what amazing people the four of you are. 02:38:11.350 --> 02:38:16.030 And I have enjoyed almost every moment 02:38:16.030 --> 02:38:17.597 of working with all of you. 02:38:20.150 --> 02:38:25.830 And really briefly, I wanna thank my office staff. 02:38:25.830 --> 02:38:28.190 Of course, Rachel Peterson who I spent five years 02:38:28.190 --> 02:38:31.620 working with, who had just... 02:38:31.620 --> 02:38:33.320 Has an amazing sense of humor. 02:38:33.320 --> 02:38:35.880 She's incredibly diligent, hardworking, 02:38:35.880 --> 02:38:37.763 and just fun to be with. 02:38:38.970 --> 02:38:42.380 My cleanup batter, chief of staff, Christine Powell, 02:38:42.380 --> 02:38:46.170 who somehow managed to push our office over the finish line 02:38:46.170 --> 02:38:48.550 in the middle of a global pandemic 02:38:48.550 --> 02:38:50.660 and a reliability crisis 02:38:50.660 --> 02:38:54.170 and an incredibly long list of TDS that we needed 02:38:54.170 --> 02:38:56.770 to get out the door by the end of this year. 02:38:56.770 --> 02:39:01.730 And she did it and did it with humor and care 02:39:01.730 --> 02:39:06.730 and brilliance and compassion, and was just amazing. 02:39:09.110 --> 02:39:11.070 And my advisors over the years, 02:39:11.070 --> 02:39:14.810 Tom Glegola, Sean Simon, Leuwam Tesfai. 02:39:14.810 --> 02:39:17.480 Jason Howe, Joanna (indistinct) 02:39:17.480 --> 02:39:21.500 Suzanne Casazza, Anand Durvasula, Jason Ortego, 02:39:21.500 --> 02:39:24.023 and of course, the incomparable Lester Wong. 02:39:25.560 --> 02:39:28.320 And I think I'll end the thank yous there 02:39:28.320 --> 02:39:30.380 because there are so many other people to thank 02:39:30.380 --> 02:39:33.830 and I'm gonna do a lot of it at the staff farewell 02:39:33.830 --> 02:39:35.380 but I just really wanted to make sure 02:39:35.380 --> 02:39:40.380 that my, had a moment to share how much I'll miss 02:39:40.573 --> 02:39:43.333 my office team here at the Commission. 02:39:45.240 --> 02:39:48.480 Okay, so, for those of you who are not as addicted 02:39:48.480 --> 02:39:50.280 to Twitter as I am, 02:39:50.280 --> 02:39:52.700 you may know that there's a mini kerfuffle going on 02:39:52.700 --> 02:39:54.870 where Joe Biden's campaign manager 02:39:54.870 --> 02:39:57.120 Jennifer O'Malley Dillon referred 02:39:57.120 --> 02:40:00.300 to Republican senators using a profane term, 02:40:00.300 --> 02:40:03.753 an entirely accurate term, but profane, nonetheless. 02:40:05.010 --> 02:40:07.030 The context of that conversation was 02:40:08.570 --> 02:40:10.260 of that comment was a conversation 02:40:10.260 --> 02:40:15.260 between Jennifer Dylan and Glenn and Doyle 02:40:16.020 --> 02:40:17.770 who's a writer who's married 02:40:17.770 --> 02:40:21.660 to Abby Wambach and has a best-selling book called "Untamed" 02:40:21.660 --> 02:40:23.790 which full disclosure I've never actually read 02:40:23.790 --> 02:40:25.030 but it seems really interesting. 02:40:25.030 --> 02:40:27.640 And so, I'm having it on my reading list. 02:40:27.640 --> 02:40:29.240 But the thing that caught my attention 02:40:29.240 --> 02:40:30.977 is Glenn and Doyle mantra. 02:40:30.977 --> 02:40:33.037 "We can do hard things." 02:40:33.880 --> 02:40:35.270 That phrase jumped out at me because 02:40:35.270 --> 02:40:36.210 I have not heard 02:40:36.210 --> 02:40:38.230 that is a very cool mantra to have 02:40:38.230 --> 02:40:40.453 and very appropriate for this job. 02:40:41.340 --> 02:40:42.920 In my six years at the Commission 02:40:42.920 --> 02:40:46.830 I think we can fairly say that we did hard things. 02:40:46.830 --> 02:40:48.590 We've increased our safety oversight 02:40:48.590 --> 02:40:50.690 and effectiveness substantially. 02:40:50.690 --> 02:40:51.950 We've put in processes 02:40:51.950 --> 02:40:55.040 in place to track safety related spending to ensure 02:40:55.040 --> 02:40:58.960 that the spending matches the GRC proposals. 02:40:58.960 --> 02:41:01.420 We've instituted the risk management... 02:41:01.420 --> 02:41:03.750 Risk assessment management process to ensure 02:41:03.750 --> 02:41:05.500 that utilities are analyzing risk 02:41:05.500 --> 02:41:08.070 and prioritizing expenditures. 02:41:08.070 --> 02:41:09.500 We dramatically improved 02:41:09.500 --> 02:41:13.020 and expanded wildfire safety mitigation plans 02:41:13.020 --> 02:41:15.690 and implemented the wildfire safety division established 02:41:15.690 --> 02:41:16.853 by the legislature. 02:41:18.010 --> 02:41:21.280 That division not only has established rigorous standards 02:41:21.280 --> 02:41:24.070 for the plans, but is institutionalizing ways 02:41:24.070 --> 02:41:27.480 to look at outcomes, not just the list of tasks 02:41:27.480 --> 02:41:29.593 but the effectiveness of those tasks. 02:41:30.480 --> 02:41:32.520 We now have a safety policy division, 02:41:32.520 --> 02:41:35.240 which is structured to go beyond enforcement compliance 02:41:35.240 --> 02:41:37.430 and fines, and look at measures 02:41:37.430 --> 02:41:40.173 that will achieve results in safety outcomes. 02:41:41.740 --> 02:41:42.980 When I started at the Commission 02:41:42.980 --> 02:41:44.470 our transportation enforcement 02:41:44.470 --> 02:41:47.410 and transportation licensing groups were understaffed 02:41:47.410 --> 02:41:51.950 and had archaic structures to process licensing paperwork. 02:41:51.950 --> 02:41:54.830 We built up that division's analytical expertise 02:41:54.830 --> 02:41:56.810 and brought their customer service methods 02:41:56.810 --> 02:41:59.250 into the 21st century. 02:41:59.250 --> 02:42:01.280 The legislature moved some of our functions 02:42:01.280 --> 02:42:04.330 to other agencies like the moving companies 02:42:04.330 --> 02:42:06.400 and our staff worked hard to ensure 02:42:06.400 --> 02:42:09.820 that those transitions were smooth and effective. 02:42:09.820 --> 02:42:13.280 We approved a workable reorganization plan for PG&E 02:42:13.280 --> 02:42:16.380 that includes an escalating enforcement structure. 02:42:16.380 --> 02:42:19.720 We've continued our substantial energy efficiency programs 02:42:19.720 --> 02:42:21.510 and introduced important changes 02:42:21.510 --> 02:42:23.920 like third-party administrators, 02:42:23.920 --> 02:42:27.370 the fuel substitution decision to further both efficiency 02:42:27.370 --> 02:42:29.440 and buildings de-carbonization 02:42:29.440 --> 02:42:31.503 and a market transformation framework. 02:42:32.440 --> 02:42:35.060 We established the integrated resource planning process 02:42:35.060 --> 02:42:36.710 and continue to make progress 02:42:36.710 --> 02:42:40.233 on any number of clean energy initiatives. 02:42:41.780 --> 02:42:43.280 And of course, there were things that we didn't 02:42:43.280 --> 02:42:45.610 anticipate when I started. 02:42:45.610 --> 02:42:49.660 The speed and scope of load migration away from the IOUs 02:42:49.660 --> 02:42:52.950 and its effect on the electricity procurement market 02:42:52.950 --> 02:42:54.400 has been dramatic. 02:42:54.400 --> 02:42:58.400 And we continue to find ways to adjust to this new reality. 02:42:58.400 --> 02:43:00.740 We've seen the market for electric vehicles 02:43:00.740 --> 02:43:03.500 increased substantially with a wide variety 02:43:03.500 --> 02:43:06.300 of products available for many customers 02:43:06.300 --> 02:43:08.270 as we realized the huge opportunities 02:43:08.270 --> 02:43:10.633 for GHD reductions in that sector. 02:43:11.890 --> 02:43:16.170 And there's autonomous vehicles driving around everywhere. 02:43:16.170 --> 02:43:18.873 And we had a global pandemic. 02:43:19.860 --> 02:43:21.670 But doing hard things is not just 02:43:21.670 --> 02:43:24.410 about policy and responding to crisis. 02:43:24.410 --> 02:43:27.350 It's also about moving outside of your comfort zone 02:43:27.350 --> 02:43:30.510 and challenging yourself to think differently. 02:43:30.510 --> 02:43:31.700 And here at the Commission 02:43:31.700 --> 02:43:33.640 that means challenging ourselves to think 02:43:33.640 --> 02:43:38.120 about how we deliver our services and engage our customers. 02:43:38.120 --> 02:43:40.330 I came to the Commission six years ago 02:43:40.330 --> 02:43:43.820 with a mission to improve CPUC process. 02:43:43.820 --> 02:43:47.910 And I wish I could say that we were done with that 02:43:47.910 --> 02:43:50.883 but we still have a very long way to go. 02:43:51.900 --> 02:43:54.123 Some of these challenges are statutory. 02:43:56.290 --> 02:43:57.210 As a former chair 02:43:57.210 --> 02:43:59.120 of the Fair Political Practices Commission, 02:43:59.120 --> 02:44:00.797 I've thought a lot about ethics rules 02:44:00.797 --> 02:44:03.920 and their effectiveness and ineffective. 02:44:03.920 --> 02:44:07.160 And things like the form 700 disclosure requirements 02:44:07.160 --> 02:44:10.540 and conflicts rules are incredibly important 02:44:10.540 --> 02:44:12.393 and extremely effective. 02:44:13.590 --> 02:44:14.430 But I have to say, 02:44:14.430 --> 02:44:17.210 I'm not seeing the same benefit and effectiveness 02:44:17.210 --> 02:44:18.950 when I look at the current structure 02:44:18.950 --> 02:44:22.250 of the experts here rules in the public utilities code, 02:44:22.250 --> 02:44:24.830 particularly the equal time role. 02:44:24.830 --> 02:44:26.910 They really, after working 02:44:26.910 --> 02:44:29.130 under them for the last six years, 02:44:29.130 --> 02:44:31.670 I really feel like they prevent us from engaging 02:44:31.670 --> 02:44:35.160 in collaborative and interactive decision-making. 02:44:35.160 --> 02:44:37.610 And they even limit our ability to communicate 02:44:37.610 --> 02:44:39.670 with the independent system operator 02:44:39.670 --> 02:44:41.340 because they're a party and proceedings 02:44:41.340 --> 02:44:43.490 that go to the heart of our electric grid, 02:44:43.490 --> 02:44:46.240 which is why we need to have close engagement with them 02:44:46.240 --> 02:44:49.930 and why we need to have good communication with them. 02:44:49.930 --> 02:44:52.870 I recognize that all parties don't have the same resources 02:44:52.870 --> 02:44:55.040 as others, and we as public servants need 02:44:55.040 --> 02:44:56.590 to be aware of that. 02:44:56.590 --> 02:44:59.150 It's our ethical duty to give all parties 02:44:59.150 --> 02:45:01.110 a fair portion of our time, 02:45:01.110 --> 02:45:03.620 but the rigid equal time rules don't lend themselves 02:45:03.620 --> 02:45:07.130 to the flexibility of perhaps meeting with a small group 02:45:07.130 --> 02:45:09.960 of parties who are most engaged to try to hammer 02:45:09.960 --> 02:45:11.790 out the solutions. 02:45:11.790 --> 02:45:14.160 And that ends up leaving the role to staff instead 02:45:14.160 --> 02:45:16.500 of the actual decision makers, 02:45:16.500 --> 02:45:18.340 which to my mind doesn't make sense 02:45:18.340 --> 02:45:20.143 from a public policy standpoint. 02:45:21.360 --> 02:45:23.970 And so we can't change those rules ourselves 02:45:23.970 --> 02:45:25.980 but we can continue the work we've done 02:45:25.980 --> 02:45:28.130 to more effectively engage with the public. 02:45:29.050 --> 02:45:32.070 We've tried continually over the last several years 02:45:32.070 --> 02:45:36.030 to make our processes more friendly and welcoming 02:45:36.030 --> 02:45:38.793 to parties who don't participate in every proceeding. 02:45:40.104 --> 02:45:41.550 And I would be lying if I didn't express 02:45:41.550 --> 02:45:45.220 how utterly frustrating it can be to propose new ideas 02:45:45.220 --> 02:45:47.630 and process changes and to be met 02:45:47.630 --> 02:45:49.490 with 15 different reasons why 02:45:49.490 --> 02:45:52.453 that particular change can't possibly be made. 02:45:53.330 --> 02:45:57.380 And this reaction happens not just from internal staff 02:45:57.380 --> 02:46:00.210 but from long time parties who participate 02:46:00.210 --> 02:46:02.140 in our proceedings as well. 02:46:02.140 --> 02:46:03.590 So I really challenge all 02:46:03.590 --> 02:46:06.150 of us to move outside of our comfort zone 02:46:06.150 --> 02:46:08.040 and be willing to do the hard things 02:46:08.040 --> 02:46:09.913 that make our processes better. 02:46:11.170 --> 02:46:13.640 We have made great strides, 02:46:13.640 --> 02:46:16.680 before the pandemic we were hosting meetings 02:46:16.680 --> 02:46:18.150 all over the state. 02:46:18.150 --> 02:46:22.120 We were more frequently on the road to increase our contacts 02:46:22.120 --> 02:46:25.510 with the community around the state. 02:46:25.510 --> 02:46:28.010 And we've really tried to structure our proceedings 02:46:28.010 --> 02:46:31.330 in ways that encourage more interactive exchange 02:46:31.330 --> 02:46:33.203 of ideas and problem solving. 02:46:35.240 --> 02:46:37.800 And I am so thankful that you 02:46:37.800 --> 02:46:40.030 as my colleagues have done this. 02:46:40.030 --> 02:46:41.750 Watching Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 02:46:41.750 --> 02:46:45.400 pushing us to rethink about utility buildings... 02:46:45.400 --> 02:46:48.590 Billing practices, and the challenges around disconnections 02:46:48.590 --> 02:46:50.940 and how they affect residents. 02:46:50.940 --> 02:46:52.800 Watching Commissioner Rechtschaffen, 02:46:52.800 --> 02:46:55.030 move the transportation electrification 02:46:55.030 --> 02:46:57.480 and extra proceedings in ways that take 02:46:57.480 --> 02:46:59.150 into account how we can ensure 02:46:59.150 --> 02:47:00.860 that the most vulnerable customers 02:47:00.860 --> 02:47:03.720 of us have the opportunities to take advantage 02:47:03.720 --> 02:47:05.283 of these new technologies. 02:47:06.430 --> 02:47:08.910 Watching Commissioners Shiroma spring into action 02:47:08.910 --> 02:47:11.650 with COVID and working closely with staff 02:47:11.650 --> 02:47:13.800 and my other Commissioners to ensure 02:47:13.800 --> 02:47:15.760 that connectivity state available 02:47:15.760 --> 02:47:19.440 and increased for our communities. 02:47:19.440 --> 02:47:22.000 And watching President Batjer work tirelessly 02:47:22.000 --> 02:47:25.660 to ameliorate the impacts of public safety, power shutoff 02:47:25.660 --> 02:47:27.890 and hold the utilities tightly accountable 02:47:27.890 --> 02:47:29.530 to their customers. 02:47:29.530 --> 02:47:32.053 You all have done the hard things. 02:47:33.580 --> 02:47:35.390 As you think about the next six years 02:47:35.390 --> 02:47:38.040 you'll have a whole new set of challenges. 02:47:38.040 --> 02:47:39.340 You'll grapple with effects 02:47:39.340 --> 02:47:41.780 of climate change, reliability issues 02:47:41.780 --> 02:47:43.833 as the grid becomes more variable. 02:47:45.380 --> 02:47:49.010 Coping with replacing Diablo and a tighter Western grid 02:47:49.010 --> 02:47:52.300 that has more competition for renewable resources. 02:47:52.300 --> 02:47:53.760 Regulating water utilities 02:47:53.760 --> 02:47:58.760 with less supply and addressing effectively the inequality 02:47:59.160 --> 02:48:02.820 in impacts and outcomes in the state. 02:48:02.820 --> 02:48:05.440 I won't be on the gas or the WebEx 02:48:05.440 --> 02:48:08.190 but I'll be working with you closely in my new role. 02:48:08.190 --> 02:48:11.220 And I will be singing your praises and cheering you 02:48:11.220 --> 02:48:13.400 on as loudly as possible, 02:48:13.400 --> 02:48:17.000 because I know more than anyone that you can 02:48:17.000 --> 02:48:20.050 and you will do hard things, thanks. 02:48:24.134 --> 02:48:27.717 (Commissioners applausing) 02:48:37.400 --> 02:48:38.753 You guys are the best. 02:48:38.753 --> 02:48:41.013 (Shiroma laughs) 02:48:41.013 --> 02:48:44.262 (Commissioners applausing) 02:48:44.262 --> 02:48:46.650 (Commissioners laugh) 02:48:46.650 --> 02:48:48.410 You are the best. 02:48:48.410 --> 02:48:51.793 Thank you so much, Liane, oh my God. 02:48:53.050 --> 02:48:55.033 Are they, even speak at this point? 02:48:57.460 --> 02:49:02.460 Okay, with that, our public meeting is now adjourned. 02:49:04.380 --> 02:49:07.850 Thank you all, wow. 02:49:07.850 --> 02:49:10.933 (Commissioners wave)