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California
Public Utility Commission
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Public Voting Meeting on this day,
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Thursday, November 19th, 2020.
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Today's call is being recorded.
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If you have any objections,
you may disconnect at this time.
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President Batjer, you may begin.
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Thank you operator, and
good morning, everyone.
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We need to first establish a quorum,
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will the agenda clerk
please call the roll.
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Commissioner Shiroma?
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Present.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
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Here.
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Commissioner Randolph?
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Here.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
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Here.
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President Batjer?
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Here.
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Thank you, thank you Jenay,
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we have established a quorum.
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Welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I'm calling this meeting
of November 19th, 2020,
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public agenda item 3475 to order.
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Due to the coronavirus pandemic
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and the shelter in place order,
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we are conducting today's
business meeting online
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and by remote participation.
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The meeting is livestream
on CPUC's website.
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You can view the meeting
at www.adminmonitor,
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Public engagement is
critical to the CPUC's process.
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If you wish to make a public comment,
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please dial into (800) 857-1917
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and press star one.
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and the operator will take
your name and information
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if appropriate, you will
be called upon to speak,
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when we get to the public
comment period in today's agenda.
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into the public telephone line
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please email votingmeetinghelp,
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all one word, @cpuc.ca.gov.
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Before we move to the public comment
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I wanna start by wishing
everyone a very happy
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and healthy Thanksgiving season.
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This year, like many of you,
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I am especially thankful for my family,
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my friends, and my health.
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It has been a very trying year
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but we must stay
optimistic and vigilant.
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Governor Newsom has
emphasized that given the pandemic
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and the recent rise in COVID-19 cases,
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there's a need to minimize
our social gatherings
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this holiday season.
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We can still celebrate
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and express our gratitude,
but perhaps this year,
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it might have to be done remotely.
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I know it is a sacrifice
to not physically be
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with friends and family we love,
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but is the best way to
ensure everyone's wellbeing.
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I also wanna thank the wonderful
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and hardworking team here at the CPUC.
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I am grateful for my
fellow Commissioners
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and all of the CPUC staff,
the incredible expertise,
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dedication that they contribute
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to the work of the Commission.
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Please have a safe and joyful
holiday, happy Thanksgiving,
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and thank you so much.
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I'm so grateful for all of you.
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At this time, we will now
turn to public comments.
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Operator?
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The public
comment line is now open.
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If you wish to speak during
the public comment period
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press star one, unmute your phone,
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and clearly record your name
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and organization when prompted.
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Our first public comment
comes from Lenore McDonald,
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the Center for Elders' Independence.
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Your line is open.
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Thank you very much.
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Hi everybody.
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I am one Lenore McDonald,
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I'm with Center for Elders' Independence
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and we are a grantee in the
CPUC's Broadband Access Program.
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We, CEI, is a healthcare provider
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for frail seniors who
require skilled nursing care.
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And with our help
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they are able to live in the
community, in their homes.
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And I'm very pleased
to be here today because
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we are so excited about our
Broadband Access Program.
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We've named it, Weblinks at CEI,
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and my colleague Andrew
Hayes was going to play back
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some video and audio for you
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about our very first graduation
that we held last month
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for only eight seniors
who are able to get
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through our basic
computer skills class so far.
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But I think we really
wanted to share the joy,
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the empowerment, their excitement,
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and just how empowered they
are with the help of the grant,
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and that we've put in this
program that we've put in place.
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I specifically want to
ask for a reconsideration
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of one of the requirements
for eligibility in the program.
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As we were putting our
final contracts together
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with the CPUC, late added requirement
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was that our seniors be
enrolled in the CalFresh program.
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And this was after we
had already established
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that nearly 100% of
them qualified financially
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and hit all the other thresholds.
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Proof of requirement of enrollment
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was added to the qualifications.
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This in essence,
eliminated over 200 people
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from the program.
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And only because they
have a meal plan in their board
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and care and not in
residential care facility homes.
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And so, because they
do, they don't require,
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they're not qualified for CalFresh,
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but in every other score they are.
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And I think when you
have an opportunity to hear
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just some audio feedback
from our participants
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and how important digital literacy
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and access to the internet are,
especially now during COVID
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we hope that you
reconsider that requirement.
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And as long as seniors did
meet the financial thresholds,
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that you would permit them
to partake in this program
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as well, even if they don't,
aren't enrolled in CalFresh.
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The COVID has really,
it really rose the urgency
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of providing this program,
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but we were going down that road anyway,
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just as we launched the program,
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the sheltering in place
requirements came into being
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and we are sheltering in
essence, over 850 people
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in their homes right now.
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And they're kind of
tired of being there.
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But this program is really bringing
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a lot of joy and connection.
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I wish you could see the video.
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What you're gonna hear
from Andrew is actually
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just the audio portion of
it, but we give them when
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they graduate, we give them
a cap and mortar and a tassel
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and a big diploma with a big seal on it,
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and there's just as proud as can be.
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So, that's my comment.
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Please reconsider the
CalFresh requirement,
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the enrollment requirement.
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We we're totally on board
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with the meeting the other
thresholds of the program.
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(timer beeping)
Thank you very much.
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Operator, before we
go on to the next caller,
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I need to make
another announcement.
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I would just want to say
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that the CPCU rules
do not allow for parties
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in the proceedings to speak
about open proceedings.
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The public can make comments
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addressing items on the consent
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and regular agenda and
including items not on the agenda.
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Please note that there
will not be public comment
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on any item on the
closed session agenda.
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You'll have two minutes
to speak for the public.
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Two minutes.
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You will hear a bell
sound when your time is up.
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Please be mindful of
speakers in the queue
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and keep to your a
lot of time, thank you.
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Okay, operator back to those who were
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in the queue for public comments.
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Our next public comment
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comes from Marilyn Golden,
Disability Rights Education
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in Defense Fund, please go ahead.
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Hi, I'm Marilyn
Golden, Senior Policy Analyst
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at the Disability Rights
Education and Defense Fund.
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Thank you for the opportunity to address
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the autonomous vehicles
proposed decision.
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Unfortunately, as currently drafted,
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this decision does not
establish a clear goal
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to provide equivalent autonomous
vehicle service to people
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with disabilities and
should be amended today
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to make this CPUC
goal already established
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for TNC services absolutely
clear to the AV industry
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and the riding public.
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Access to AVs could
be enormously beneficial
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to the disability community.
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So as a wheelChair user myself,
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I must point out that's only
true if the services provided
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include disability access to Avs.
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Ensuring access is unquestionably easier
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and cheaper for everyone
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if it's included at the outset.
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AVs should be born accessible,
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plan designed, built, and
deployed with equal access.
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Most Avs will be in fleets
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providing demand response
service, meaning that
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a vehicle is dispatched or routed
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in response to a
potential riders request.
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Under the Americans
with Disabilities Act
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such systems must provide a level
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of service to people with disabilities
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that's equivalent to the level
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of service provided to others.
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Equivalent according to
specific criteria including:
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The service area, the response time,
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the fairs, the schedule,
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and any benefits that AVs
uniquely offer, among others.
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Equivalency will mean
that some if not many Avs
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will need to be fully
wheelChair accessible.
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So I urge you today
to amend this proposal
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to make clear to all that
passenger services provided by AVs
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will provide equivalent
autonomous vehicle service
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to people with disabilities.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator,
the next caller, please.
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The next public
comment comes from Jim Stewart.
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Your line is open.
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Hi, I'm Dr. Jim
Stewart, Energy Consultant,
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and I plead with the
Commission to hold item 17.
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The PG and E's claims have been disputed
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by the joint CCA analysis
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there are just way
too many uncertainties
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and you really need to hold this item
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until the issues have been cleared up
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and any modifications to the
resolution have been made.
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The issue is fairness.
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We don't need to have
the Commission benefiting
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the private utility IOUs
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and running up rates
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for the CCAs who don't comprise almost
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half of the rate payers now,
and you need to remember them.
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I also want to comment on item 34,
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that you're making a big step
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in the right direction
to limit Aliso Canyon
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to zero to 34 billion
cubic feet of storage.
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You all know the whole huge damage
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to health and climate that came
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from one well that burst three years ago
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and there are a hundred other old wells
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in that storage field that
could burst at any time.
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All the Commissioners
need to read the comments
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by the Protect Our
Communities Foundation
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which does a careful
engineering analysis
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showing that Aliso Canyon
storage is not needed at all.
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And you also need to push
SoCalGas to fix those pipelines
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so that they can run at rated capacity
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and we won't have
any limitations on that.
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And we need to shut down Aliso Canyon,
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let's move on that.
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And we thank you very much
for going in the right direction.
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(timer beeps)
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Thank you Dr. Stewart.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
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The next comment is
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from Laura Rosenberger Haider,
your line is open, go ahead.
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My name is
Laura Rosenberger
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from Fresno, rate payer.
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I do not approve number
17A due to inconsistencies
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and the loss factors for PCIA
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calculations was not submitted.
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The number 34, we should
have limited Aliso Canyon,
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the 34 billion cubic feet
that's been air monitored,
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when groups Non-profits
Air doing air monitoring,
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there's ongoing leakage,
even after the blowout.
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And it's on an
earthquake fault involving
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the news 70,000 oil
wells that are planned
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to be drilled in Kern County,
not that far from there,
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well, it tremors that could
damage Aliso Canyon even more.
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And if the best
solution is not to store,
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not to buy gas and store it.
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And with that money, you
save from not buying gas
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trying to fix up all the leaks
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in the pipes so they
could hold more pressure
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and also ask Governor Brown
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to ban new oil wells
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'cause all that's like
natural gas coming
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out of the oil wells would
just be lost and wasted.
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And it has also had an
endocrine disrupting chemicals
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and uranium was found in the hair
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of people from Aliso
Canyon after the blow out
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and a lot of the health impacts of it.
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All right, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
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The next
public comment comes
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from Alison Leary,
League of California Cities,
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your line is open, go ahead please.
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Thank you so much.
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The League of California
Cities appreciate
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the opportunity to comment
on item 40, the Driver
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and Driverless Autonomous
Vehicle Passenger Service Program.
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Cal Cities just wants to
reiterate the comments submitted
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by the San Francisco
Municipal Transportation Agency
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and the San Francisco
County Transportation Agency.
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Specifically, we urge the Commission
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to retain the proposed
decision permitting process
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which includes the tier
three advice letter public input
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and AVPS permit decision
approved by the whole Commission.
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Public review of the AV
Passenger Service applications
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will provide critical insight
from community members
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and a variety of
transportation planning, climate,
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and equity experts, especially
review is also consistent
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with the Commission's goal
to expand public inclusion
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in the CPUC's decision-making process.
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And Cal Cities would also
encourage the Commission
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to preserve the proposed decisions
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reporting and
accountability requirements
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which will effectively
monitor industry development
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and understand the demand for
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and supply of AV passenger services.
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Lastly, Cal Cities believes
that the Commission should call
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for equivalent service
for people with disabilities
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and should document
compliance with C-Class.
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Thank you so much for providing
a forum for public comment.
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Thank you, Miss Leary.
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Okay, next caller, please.
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Thank you, the next
speaker is Deborah Kaplan,
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Deputy Director of San
Francisco Mayor's Office
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on Disability, go ahead please.
00:16:11.760 --> 00:16:12.760
Thank you.
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One of the Mayor's
Office on Disability's roles
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is to represent the perspective
of San Francisco residents
00:16:20.690 --> 00:16:22.340
with disabilities.
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These comments are
made pursuant to that role,
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particularly wheelChair users
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and those with sensory disabilities.
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I'm a power wheelChair user myself.
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As someone who doesn't
drive, I can assure you that my life
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would be expanded with
the option of accessible AVs.
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The Americans With Disabilities Act
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has been in effect for 30 years.
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Yet, the proposed order appears to treat
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accessibility as an option.
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The disability community has advocated
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for accessibility for decades.
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We know that expecting the broad goal
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of expanding the
benefits of AV technologies
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to all of California's communities,
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the result in the
equally effective access
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required by the AVA is
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misgiven and naive.
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Our experience is that
unless accessibility is a clear
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and unequivocal goal,
it will not happen at all.
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Because of this program involves
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the design of physical things,
00:17:34.740 --> 00:17:39.740
vehicles, accessibility
must be a clear goal now,
00:17:39.770 --> 00:17:41.930
so that people with disabilities
00:17:41.930 --> 00:17:44.033
won't have to wait for access.
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The reason experience
with TMC demonstrates
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that failure to require accessibility
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into new transportation programs
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at the very outset is
detrimental to all parties.
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Legislation requiring
accessibility that comes
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after the PUC launches a
program, can be very disruptive.
00:18:09.650 --> 00:18:13.350
The disability community
would prefer to spend time
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supporting an accessibility
goal and helping to make it real
00:18:18.500 --> 00:18:22.910
through this proceeding
rather than pursuing legislation.
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We urge you to amend the proposed order
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to include accessibility
as a specific goal.
00:18:31.050 --> 00:18:32.303
Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much.
00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.860
Operator, the next caller, please.
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Thank you, the
next speaker is Andrew Hayes,
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the Center for Elders'
Independence, your line is open,
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please go ahead.
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Hi, my name
is Andrew Hayes,
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and again, I'm with the Center
for Elders' Independence.
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We're a nonprofit
all-inclusive healthcare
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providing healthcare
to low-income seniors
00:18:55.820 --> 00:18:58.060
in Oakland and the
surrounding communities.
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I'm really calling in support
00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:00.740
of this digital literacy program.
00:19:00.740 --> 00:19:03.370
As mentioned earlier,
we cannot stress enough
00:19:03.370 --> 00:19:05.070
the importance of this program.
00:19:05.070 --> 00:19:08.010
Right now, we're assisting
at over 800 frail seniors
00:19:08.010 --> 00:19:09.400
to shelter in place.
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Prior to the pandemic,
isolation was one of
00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:12.760
the greatest threats to our seniors,
00:19:12.760 --> 00:19:17.503
and that's really been
compounded by today's world.
00:19:18.590 --> 00:19:20.100
This program has not
only given our seniors
00:19:20.100 --> 00:19:21.080
the ability to stay connected
00:19:21.080 --> 00:19:22.460
with their healthcare providers,
00:19:22.460 --> 00:19:25.020
but just as importantly
they have the chance now
00:19:25.020 --> 00:19:26.760
to engage in virtual activities.
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They socialize with their friends,
00:19:28.260 --> 00:19:31.210
they like to show off
to their grandchildren
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their new skills and
Facebook connections.
00:19:34.360 --> 00:19:36.780
And it's been a really powerful
program for our seniors.
00:19:36.780 --> 00:19:38.530
We're really asking for
your support and helping
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us expand this program to
meet many more seniors in needs.
00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:43.870
And I'd like to close
with just some audio
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from one of our recent graduations.
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And you can hear some of
the excitement and the pride
00:19:47.630 --> 00:19:50.480
that our seniors have in
everything they've accomplished.
00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:54.262
So I just wanna
say thank you because
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you don't know how
much confidence we have
00:19:56.924 --> 00:19:59.193
(indistinct)
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We have privileged (indistinct)
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We can still we (indistinct).
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I wanna thank you guys
00:20:06.140 --> 00:20:09.665
for proving that yes,
00:20:09.665 --> 00:20:12.665
you can teach an old dog new tricks.
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(indistinct)
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A lot of people think, if
you reach a certain age,
00:20:19.837 --> 00:20:24.447
you're not capable of
learning anything new.
00:20:25.814 --> 00:20:30.814
And you've just showed
everybody how wrong they are.
00:20:31.310 --> 00:20:34.510
My favorite thing
was access to YouTube.
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It's like, I go to YouTube
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because I like to pull off (indistinct),
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so thank you guys.
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Yeah.
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(crosstalk)
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Once again, thank you.
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It's been an exciting time
00:20:51.040 --> 00:20:53.210
to share the opportunities
with our seniors,
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and again, we're just asking
00:20:54.100 --> 00:20:56.700
for your support and helping
us expand this program.
00:20:58.130 --> 00:20:59.580
Thank you Mr. Hayes.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
00:21:02.650 --> 00:21:03.997
The next, excuse me,
00:21:03.997 --> 00:21:06.050
the next speaker is Ralph Lacks,
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your line is open, please go ahead.
00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:10.190
Good morning,
Commissioners.
00:21:10.190 --> 00:21:11.600
My name is Ralph Lacks
00:21:11.600 --> 00:21:14.500
and I'm a solar developer
here in California.
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I'm developing a number of
00:21:16.990 --> 00:21:19.780
under five megawatt
distributed solar projects
00:21:19.780 --> 00:21:22.610
that will sell over to the power grid.
00:21:22.610 --> 00:21:25.070
Speaking regarding the
Commission's draft resolution
00:21:25.070 --> 00:21:27.380
approving the utility advice letter,
00:21:27.380 --> 00:21:30.970
implementing the new
purpose standard offer contract.
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Interconnection has
been extremely challenging
00:21:33.950 --> 00:21:36.790
for our projects, but we
were able to eventually
00:21:36.790 --> 00:21:39.260
obtain interconnection agreements.
00:21:39.260 --> 00:21:42.510
We are looking forward to
the new standard offer contract
00:21:42.510 --> 00:21:43.820
but we are very worried
00:21:43.820 --> 00:21:47.263
about the new FERC rules
that kick in on December 31st.
00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:50.720
I'm worried because the
new FERC rules undermine
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.200
the key new feature of the SOC.
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The contract price at time
of contract execution option
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for the duration of
the 12 year contract.
00:22:00.370 --> 00:22:02.330
Without this pricing option,
00:22:02.330 --> 00:22:06.000
the new SOC will be little
better than simply selling
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.000
into wholesale markets
without a contract.
00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.190
We also worry that
delayed implementation
00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:13.910
by the utilities may
prevent any contracts
00:22:13.910 --> 00:22:16.983
from being completed
before the new rules kick in.
00:22:17.850 --> 00:22:19.640
Accordingly, we are urge,
00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.590
we are here to urge the
Commission to not allow utilities
00:22:22.590 --> 00:22:25.570
to eliminate the new SOC pricing option
00:22:25.570 --> 00:22:27.880
until the Commission deliberates further
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.340
on the merits of the new FERC rules
00:22:30.340 --> 00:22:34.680
and any requested utility
changes to the proper programs.
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.470
There should be no automatic elimination
00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:41.470
of the contract price, at time
of contract execution option
00:22:41.500 --> 00:22:43.630
without deliberations.
00:22:43.630 --> 00:22:45.760
Without thorough deliberation
00:22:45.760 --> 00:22:47.760
of any additional program changes,
00:22:47.760 --> 00:22:49.010
the Commission would risk moving
00:22:49.010 --> 00:22:52.690
all of the gains made
over the last two years
00:22:52.690 --> 00:22:55.350
through the Commissions
information implementation
00:22:55.350 --> 00:22:56.860
of the new FERC guidelines.
00:22:56.860 --> 00:22:57.903
Thank you very much.
00:23:00.600 --> 00:23:02.110
Thank you.
00:23:02.110 --> 00:23:03.923
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:23:05.430 --> 00:23:08.220
The next
speaker is Claire Broom,
00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:09.053
please go ahead.
00:23:12.390 --> 00:23:14.340
Good morning,
Commissioners.
00:23:18.061 --> 00:23:20.800
I'm commenting on agenda item 35,
00:23:22.460 --> 00:23:25.060
which is the
00:23:25.060 --> 00:23:29.000
commendable effort to increase capacity
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:34.000
on the grid to avoid the
rotating outages we experienced.
00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:39.670
I appreciate the Commission
moving rapidly on this,
00:23:39.670 --> 00:23:44.400
but I think the current
proposed decision
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.650
does not learn the
lessons from our past year.
00:23:48.650 --> 00:23:52.880
California really needs
you to prioritize clean
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.133
distributed energy
resources to avoid outages.
00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:02.800
Specifically August 14th,
2020, (indistinct) outage.
00:24:04.810 --> 00:24:08.030
California Solar and Storage
Association pointed out
00:24:08.030 --> 00:24:13.030
that the inability to access
500 (indistinct) of existing
00:24:15.446 --> 00:24:19.063
(indistinct) batteries, could
have alleviated the outage.
00:24:20.820 --> 00:24:23.300
Instead of asking California rate payers
00:24:23.300 --> 00:24:27.280
to pay for new capacity
and giving a pass
00:24:27.280 --> 00:24:31.313
to fossil fuel generators and
once through cooling plants,
00:24:32.360 --> 00:24:36.310
I hope the Commission
will take seriously
00:24:36.310 --> 00:24:39.180
getting a tariff in place
00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:41.500
that could fairly compensate
00:24:42.670 --> 00:24:45.660
clean distributed energy resources
00:24:45.660 --> 00:24:48.423
in front of the meter
and behind the meter.
00:24:49.830 --> 00:24:53.860
The PD does mention
demand side resources
00:24:53.860 --> 00:24:57.780
but it throws out multiple
uncoordinated programs,
00:24:57.780 --> 00:25:02.670
such as improving flex alerts,
where you ask consumers
00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.670
and rate payers to
change their use patterns.
00:25:07.690 --> 00:25:12.690
Why not fairly compensate
the value that batteries
00:25:14.590 --> 00:25:16.950
and solar energy efficiency
00:25:16.950 --> 00:25:20.083
demand management bring to California?
00:25:21.330 --> 00:25:25.770
I urge you strongly to take seriously
00:25:25.770 --> 00:25:30.195
the value of clean
distributed energy resources,
00:25:30.195 --> 00:25:32.860
(timer rings)
and expeditiously
00:25:32.860 --> 00:25:35.890
develop a tariff to
compensate them fairly.
00:25:35.890 --> 00:25:37.193
Thank you very much.
00:25:38.790 --> 00:25:40.320
Thank you.
00:25:40.320 --> 00:25:42.020
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.490
Our next
speaker is Patty Glick.
00:25:45.490 --> 00:25:47.690
Your line is open, please go ahead.
00:25:47.690 --> 00:25:49.000
Great, thank you so much.
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.760
I am a co-founder of the Aliso
Moms Alliance and serving
00:25:52.760 --> 00:25:56.680
on Aliso Canyon Health Study
Community Advisory Group
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.120
We should be talking about closing down
00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:03.750
the gas storage facility and
we're not reopening it more.
00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:06.800
The Blade Energy report
showed it was mismanaged
00:26:06.800 --> 00:26:08.890
and poorly maintained for years.
00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:12.610
It's located on top of an
active earthquake fault
00:26:12.610 --> 00:26:15.170
and near several other faults.
00:26:15.170 --> 00:26:19.240
A major quake can damage
several wells at once.
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.250
It's located in a high-fire danger zone
00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:25.440
and we almost found out
last year with a sateridge fire.
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.200
What would happen is
the wells caught on fire?
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.450
The poly toxin
emissions that are emitted
00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:32.710
from the wells on almost a daily basis
00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:34.830
get spread by prevailing winds
00:26:34.830 --> 00:26:37.490
throughout the San
Fernando Valley for miles.
00:26:37.490 --> 00:26:40.670
Yet SoCalGas refuses to give the county
00:26:40.670 --> 00:26:42.980
a comprehensive list of materials used
00:26:42.980 --> 00:26:45.850
so that true health
study can be conducted.
00:26:45.850 --> 00:26:47.680
And just about everyone who lives
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.470
in the Northern Valley knows
someone who has been diagnosed
00:26:50.470 --> 00:26:54.000
with cancers, associated with
exposure from these chemicals,
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:59.000
someone with leukemia,
lymphoma, multiple myeloma, AML,
00:26:59.130 --> 00:27:00.790
Aurukun cancers, teachers,
00:27:00.790 --> 00:27:03.370
and staff at one elementary
school within a couple
00:27:03.370 --> 00:27:04.690
of miles of these wells,
00:27:04.690 --> 00:27:08.090
has had several cases of
cancer with many deaths.
00:27:08.090 --> 00:27:11.590
And with COVID, many of
us are in the high-risk group
00:27:11.590 --> 00:27:14.920
for COVID complications
due to living near Aliso.
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.610
Elected officials including
U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein,
00:27:18.610 --> 00:27:20.330
Congress member, Brad Sherman,
00:27:20.330 --> 00:27:23.080
and state Senator
Henry Stern have called
00:27:23.080 --> 00:27:25.570
for the facility to be
shut down immediately.
00:27:25.570 --> 00:27:29.040
It's time to listen to
logic, listen to the signs,
00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:31.120
listen to the people
who are being affected
00:27:31.120 --> 00:27:32.690
and shut down Alise Canyon.
00:27:32.690 --> 00:27:33.523
Thank you so much.
00:27:33.523 --> 00:27:35.573
And please be aware that
there's plenty of residents
00:27:35.573 --> 00:27:38.730
from my area who are getting
busy signals and can't get
00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:41.380
in on this call, but thank
you so much for listening.
00:27:43.110 --> 00:27:47.330
Golly, Robert, if
you heard the report
00:27:47.330 --> 00:27:49.860
that people are getting any busy signal
00:27:49.860 --> 00:27:52.293
can you please have
someone check on that?
00:27:53.260 --> 00:27:54.103
Yes, President Batjer,
00:27:54.103 --> 00:27:56.000
I will check on that runaway.
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.350
Thank you.
00:27:57.350 --> 00:27:59.423
Operator the next caller, please.
00:28:03.050 --> 00:28:05.570
The next
speaker is Kelly Brown,
00:28:05.570 --> 00:28:07.503
your line is open, please go ahead.
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:10.980
Hi, can you hear me?
00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:13.170
Hello?
00:28:13.170 --> 00:28:14.300
Yes, we can, we
can hear you fine.
00:28:14.300 --> 00:28:16.610
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
00:28:16.610 --> 00:28:20.150
Okay, my name is Kelly Brown, my parents
00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:23.090
and I are victims of the
Alisio Canyon gas leak.
00:28:23.090 --> 00:28:25.830
I'm sorry, this is so emotional for me.
00:28:25.830 --> 00:28:28.670
My mother and father lived
00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:32.770
less than a mile directly
underneath the facility.
00:28:32.770 --> 00:28:34.690
I didn't know what was wrong.
00:28:34.690 --> 00:28:37.560
The trees were dying,
the dogs were dying,
00:28:37.560 --> 00:28:39.203
all their landscape died.
00:28:40.890 --> 00:28:42.320
I kept going to their house
00:28:42.320 --> 00:28:44.120
trying to figure out what was wrong.
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.100
I ended up in the emergency
room with my mother
00:28:49.100 --> 00:28:52.817
on the phone with
SoCalGas crying and saying,
00:28:52.817 --> 00:28:55.980
"Please, I don't know
what's going to happen here."
00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:58.450
And they kept telling me it's not toxic.
00:28:58.450 --> 00:29:01.420
Well lo and behold, the LA
County Health Department,
00:29:01.420 --> 00:29:04.500
Dr. Michael at UCLA toxicology,
00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:07.920
they all found toxins
in my parents' home.
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.470
Uranium, I'm sorry,
00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:14.420
uranium was found in
our hair, benzene in the air
00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:17.962
five months after the,
the well had run out,
00:29:17.962 --> 00:29:22.590
methane, propane,
carbon dioxide, butane,
00:29:22.590 --> 00:29:25.590
mercaptans, phenol.
00:29:25.590 --> 00:29:28.340
This is absolutely outrageous.
00:29:28.340 --> 00:29:30.670
There is no plan of care.
00:29:30.670 --> 00:29:34.370
There is no medical plan in
an emergency room situation.
00:29:34.370 --> 00:29:36.100
The Health Department gave the directive
00:29:36.100 --> 00:29:39.810
that you're to look for
other direct, edimore,
00:29:39.810 --> 00:29:41.320
I don't know how to say this properly,
00:29:41.320 --> 00:29:45.513
but other reasons for
why people are sick.
00:29:47.450 --> 00:29:49.730
Now, it's come out that
00:29:49.730 --> 00:29:52.400
it's radioactive that
there's Polonium-210,
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.900
the most dangerous substance
known to man, and radon.
00:29:55.900 --> 00:30:00.610
And what happens towards
children playing in that?
00:30:00.610 --> 00:30:04.220
How about the dozens of people
that have reached out to me
00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:08.010
and said, Kelly, what,
we have multiple myeloma,
00:30:08.010 --> 00:30:11.350
we have leukemia, we
don't know what to do.
00:30:11.350 --> 00:30:16.100
You have no right to continue
to increase the pressure
00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:17.890
or add more gas.
00:30:17.890 --> 00:30:20.150
You have a responsibility,
Commissioners,
00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:21.480
to protect the people.
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:26.230
There are no emergency
plans in place for an evacuation.
00:30:26.230 --> 00:30:30.650
There is, I saw, as my
parents checked out of a hotel
00:30:30.650 --> 00:30:35.100
SoCalGas told me personally
to use our own credit cards
00:30:35.100 --> 00:30:38.410
to pay for the relocation
and the woman in front of us
00:30:38.410 --> 00:30:40.940
who had bone cancer and
half her face was missing.
00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:44.130
Had five credit cards on a counter
00:30:44.130 --> 00:30:46.640
trying to pay for her relocation.
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.330
This is chaos.
00:30:48.330 --> 00:30:52.160
These substances are on
the Right-to-Know Hazard List.
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.010
Do you even know that?
00:30:54.010 --> 00:30:57.070
Have you done the
research because we have.
00:30:57.070 --> 00:30:58.870
We would love to sit down
00:30:58.870 --> 00:31:01.937
and tell you the
information that we have,
00:31:01.937 --> 00:31:04.870
but you cannot plead
plausible deniability
00:31:04.870 --> 00:31:06.100
that you don't know.
00:31:06.100 --> 00:31:10.680
Governor Newsom's
partner is Gordon Getty,
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.900
J. Paul Getty owned those oil fields.
00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:14.910
There are 129.
00:31:14.910 --> 00:31:18.450
There are no regulations
on seismic activity
00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:21.360
in the State of
California or safety valves
00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:25.670
or more captain exposure,
or, and why is there no
00:31:25.670 --> 00:31:28.693
EPA regulations on
chemicals and natural gas?
00:31:30.530 --> 00:31:34.167
Please listen to me, please (sobbing).
00:31:36.750 --> 00:31:37.583
Thank you.
00:31:39.050 --> 00:31:40.863
Thank you very
much, Miss Brown.
00:31:41.972 --> 00:31:43.316
Thank you.
Operator?
00:31:43.316 --> 00:31:45.066
Thank you, thank you.
00:31:46.260 --> 00:31:48.433
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:31:50.020 --> 00:31:51.530
Before we
go to the next caller
00:31:51.530 --> 00:31:54.400
if you wish to speak during
the public comment period
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.440
please press star one,
unmute your phone,
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:58.810
and clearly provide your name
00:31:58.810 --> 00:32:01.030
and organization when prompted.
00:32:01.030 --> 00:32:04.990
Our next speaker is David
McCord, please go ahead.
00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:08.253
Hi, this is David
McCord, I live in El Sorito.
00:32:08.253 --> 00:32:12.440
I'm a rate payer and item number 17
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.730
involving PG and E's, PCIA
00:32:15.730 --> 00:32:19.160
is not ready for consideration today.
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.477
The analysis in application 2007002
00:32:26.610 --> 00:32:31.610
by the joint CCAs shows
there are too many uncertainties
00:32:32.950 --> 00:32:37.940
in PG and E's claims for
approval of this application.
00:32:37.940 --> 00:32:40.680
The Commission needs hold this item
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.480
until the issues have been cleared up
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.120
and any modifications
to the proposed resolution
00:32:47.120 --> 00:32:49.160
have been made.
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.840
Wrongly calculated PCIA
charges are driving up rates
00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:56.970
for nearly half of
California rate payers,
00:32:56.970 --> 00:32:58.563
those in the CCAs.
00:32:59.610 --> 00:33:02.060
And approving rate structures
00:33:02.060 --> 00:33:05.260
you should consider these rate payers
00:33:05.260 --> 00:33:08.010
over the IOU shareholders,
00:33:08.010 --> 00:33:12.180
most of whom I understand
do not live in California.
00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:13.013
Thank you.
00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.580
Thank you, Mr. McCord.
00:33:16.580 --> 00:33:18.280
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:33:20.504 --> 00:33:22.400
The next
speaker is Helena Tie,
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.363
your line is open, please go ahead.
00:33:25.890 --> 00:33:27.160
Hi, I'm Helena Tie,
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.180
I live in Granada Hills
00:33:29.180 --> 00:33:32.920
and I've been affected by Alisio Canyon.
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.410
Also, I agree with
everything with my neighbors,
00:33:37.410 --> 00:33:40.520
my friends, Kelly and
Patty said, and I don't
00:33:40.520 --> 00:33:45.260
wanna repeat that again,
but I just, I'm very shocked.
00:33:45.260 --> 00:33:47.780
We have been for the last five years
00:33:47.780 --> 00:33:51.390
we have been telling you
how awful it's been here,
00:33:51.390 --> 00:33:54.483
how sick we are and,
00:33:55.808 --> 00:33:58.260
you have public day care agency,
00:33:58.260 --> 00:34:00.810
you're supposed to be,
you're not gas company.
00:34:00.810 --> 00:34:01.860
You're a public agency.
00:34:01.860 --> 00:34:04.330
You're supposed to be
thinking, taking our health
00:34:04.330 --> 00:34:07.540
in consideration when
you're making decisions also.
00:34:07.540 --> 00:34:10.220
And now hearing that you wanna even
00:34:10.220 --> 00:34:13.870
go higher in the capacity
and that just shocks me.
00:34:13.870 --> 00:34:17.400
I mean, not to believe, what is this?
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.120
And I've been suffering.
00:34:20.120 --> 00:34:21.550
My kids have been suffering.
00:34:21.550 --> 00:34:23.300
My husband has been suffering.
00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:26.220
I've been having
nosebleeds last two weeks.
00:34:26.220 --> 00:34:29.200
I just I wish the only symptoms he had
00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:30.810
was just nosebleeds and rashes,
00:34:30.810 --> 00:34:33.630
it's much, much more serious than that.
00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:37.000
And if you see that not
too many people are calling
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.810
or coming to meetings, some
of them are dead right now.
00:34:39.810 --> 00:34:43.730
My neighbors and some have
moved away, that's a reason.
00:34:43.730 --> 00:34:46.490
Otherwise, we are still suffering here
00:34:46.490 --> 00:34:48.880
and I'm sure gas
companies happy about that
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.110
and saying that problem
solved these people,
00:34:51.110 --> 00:34:54.850
either dying or just
leaving but we're still here,
00:34:54.850 --> 00:34:57.230
we're still suffering
and this is not right.
00:34:57.230 --> 00:35:01.010
You guys are public agencies,
you have responsibilities
00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:03.290
to us, the community,
00:35:03.290 --> 00:35:06.180
and I hope you take that very seriously.
00:35:06.180 --> 00:35:08.360
It's been five years
I've been telling you,
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.130
I mean, when I gonna start listening
00:35:10.130 --> 00:35:11.693
to what we're telling you?
00:35:12.730 --> 00:35:15.500
I'm very disappointed
and I really urge you
00:35:17.225 --> 00:35:18.870
to not to go any higher.
00:35:18.870 --> 00:35:21.770
I mean, I was hoping to see a shutdown
00:35:21.770 --> 00:35:23.890
of this Alisio Canyon,
00:35:23.890 --> 00:35:26.310
but what I'm seeing from
you guys is just shocking.
00:35:26.310 --> 00:35:28.047
I'm sorry, thank you.
00:35:30.026 --> 00:35:30.987
Thank you.
00:35:30.987 --> 00:35:32.963
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:37.610
Our next
caller is Matt Pakucko
00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:40.723
President of Save Porter
Ranch, your line is open.
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:43.610
Hey, yeah, my
name is Matt Pakucko,
00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:45.440
President of Save Porter Ranch.
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.630
We're a 501C3 in the
North San Fernando Valley.
00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:51.560
There is no critical need
to increase the storage
00:35:51.560 --> 00:35:52.700
of this facility right now.
00:35:52.700 --> 00:35:55.690
You need to keep it
at 34 billion cubic feet.
00:35:55.690 --> 00:35:57.100
There's been no shortages
00:35:58.740 --> 00:36:01.580
due to lack of storage
since that place had its blow
00:36:01.580 --> 00:36:04.720
out in 2015 and it was shut down.
00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:07.500
It has not been needed, it
was not needed for nearly,
00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:10.340
for over two years when that
place was shut down because
00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:14.840
of a SBs, whatever legislation
that was that shut it down.
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.440
There were no shortages.
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.830
Actually we should be
going back to the asset
00:36:19.830 --> 00:36:23.440
of last resort protocol
that was in place from 2016
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:25.980
through 2018, or maybe longer
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.883
that works to conserve gas
all over Southern California.
00:36:32.770 --> 00:36:36.110
So the storage issue
and a need is one thing,
00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:38.250
but the real risk is to
the community next door
00:36:38.250 --> 00:36:39.960
to that facility, as you just heard them
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.950
and I'm sure you'll hear plenty more of.
00:36:41.950 --> 00:36:45.170
Our Save Porter Ranch
represents thousands of stakeholders
00:36:45.170 --> 00:36:47.390
in the North Valley, and
most of them live adjacent
00:36:47.390 --> 00:36:50.830
to that facility and we
pay the incalculable price
00:36:50.830 --> 00:36:54.780
in health on-goingly
from that initial disaster,
00:36:54.780 --> 00:36:56.820
and every time that
place gives off emissions,
00:36:56.820 --> 00:36:58.600
we smell it, we know about it.
00:36:58.600 --> 00:37:00.560
Our social media lights up
00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:03.410
with all sorts of people
complaining about health issues.
00:37:04.300 --> 00:37:06.530
We know it's coming from that facility.
00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:07.880
We're pretty clear on that.
00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:09.973
And remember that place
00:37:09.973 --> 00:37:13.120
and a higher pressure also
means a logarithmic increase
00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:16.460
in emissions from many
sources, including natural pathways
00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:18.330
other than just the wells.
00:37:18.330 --> 00:37:19.580
And that place was closed, remember,
00:37:19.580 --> 00:37:21.640
if we talked about our reliability
00:37:21.640 --> 00:37:23.600
to rely on that place, which was closed,
00:37:23.600 --> 00:37:25.440
it was closed because of a health issue
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.620
and after the blowout,
00:37:26.620 --> 00:37:28.420
not because it
couldn't still supply gas,
00:37:28.420 --> 00:37:30.520
it was closed because of health issues.
00:37:30.520 --> 00:37:31.960
So to rely on that place
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:33.760
at a higher pressure and more dangerous
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:37.293
to people's health is a
serious reliability issue as well.
00:37:38.830 --> 00:37:42.180
So aside from storage and
rate payers and everything,
00:37:42.180 --> 00:37:43.410
this is a huge concern
00:37:43.410 --> 00:37:45.640
to North San Fernando Valley residents.
00:37:45.640 --> 00:37:48.080
Not to mention, California
has clean energy goals
00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:50.300
that that phase out fossil fuels
00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.320
over the next
(timer rings)
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.890
couple of decades.
00:37:53.890 --> 00:37:54.723
There's no time to go,
00:37:54.723 --> 00:37:57.420
it's not time to go counter
to that, quite the opposite.
00:37:57.420 --> 00:38:00.160
We need to move towards that goal now,
00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:02.160
keep that facility at or below its
00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:03.790
current 34 billion cubic feet
00:38:03.790 --> 00:38:06.190
and that will push us
in the right direction.
00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:07.023
Thank you.
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.500
President Batjer, this is
Commissioner Randolph.
00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:17.150
I just wanted to note a couple
of callers seemed to indicate
00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:19.610
that the proposed decision on our agenda
00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:21.280
would increase the amount of storage,
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.560
but that's not correct.
00:38:22.560 --> 00:38:26.873
It actually maintains the
current lower level of storage.
00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:29.230
And I realize there was a lot
00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:31.210
of other issues that
color's are concerned about,
00:38:31.210 --> 00:38:33.590
but I wanted to make
sure that they understood
00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:36.750
the effect of the decision
that's on the agenda today.
00:38:36.750 --> 00:38:37.583
Thank you.
00:38:41.240 --> 00:38:44.260
Thank you, Commissioner
Randolph, for clarifying that,
00:38:44.260 --> 00:38:48.143
I was thinking the same, so thank you.
00:38:49.910 --> 00:38:51.610
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:38:53.290 --> 00:38:54.123
Thank you.
00:38:54.123 --> 00:38:56.540
The next color is Kyoko Kikino,
00:38:56.540 --> 00:38:58.323
your line is open, please go ahead.
00:39:01.250 --> 00:39:03.580
Hi, my name
is Kyoko Hibino,
00:39:03.580 --> 00:39:06.280
I live in the Porter Ranch.
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.140
I echo all the comments
from our committee
00:39:10.140 --> 00:39:13.607
to oppose the increase of
capacity of Aliso Canyon,
00:39:13.607 --> 00:39:14.770
but we've just hard is
00:39:14.770 --> 00:39:19.050
that we are keeping
the current capacity.
00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:23.200
I actually urge to decrease
00:39:23.200 --> 00:39:26.093
the capacity of Aliso Canyon facility.
00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:31.280
As you hear, many times,
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.530
our community is continuously
dealing with ongoing
00:39:34.530 --> 00:39:36.290
health issues from blow out
00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:41.840
and longterm health
effects from that blowout.
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.703
In the current operation,
00:39:44.740 --> 00:39:47.040
whatever the, admissions is dead,
00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:50.330
they usually emit from the facility.
00:39:50.330 --> 00:39:53.520
It is ongoing, it is real.
00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:56.320
We are actually slowly dying.
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.920
So, please consider to
00:40:01.560 --> 00:40:04.200
decrease to the minimum,
00:40:04.200 --> 00:40:07.560
decreased to the original protocol,
00:40:07.560 --> 00:40:11.663
which is 15 BDN cubic feet capacity,
00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:17.060
and also California is really heading
00:40:17.060 --> 00:40:22.060
into de-carbonization electification
00:40:23.879 --> 00:40:27.510
and 39 cities already
including San Francisco,
00:40:27.510 --> 00:40:29.710
adopted ordinance to ban
00:40:29.710 --> 00:40:33.773
or limit the gas hook up
in the new construction.
00:40:34.730 --> 00:40:36.650
This is what we're heading.
00:40:36.650 --> 00:40:41.223
So, the increase in already,
00:40:42.130 --> 00:40:44.653
for, whatever the, capacity right now,
00:40:46.130 --> 00:40:50.733
is something that we need to,
00:40:53.740 --> 00:40:57.680
really that Aliso Canyon
really need to be eliminated,
00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:01.340
shut down because for
one we don't really need it
00:41:01.340 --> 00:41:06.340
and then we are heading to all electric,
00:41:06.810 --> 00:41:08.020
this is our future.
00:41:08.020 --> 00:41:09.023
Thank you so much.
00:41:11.250 --> 00:41:14.523
Thank you, operator,
the next caller, please.
00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:18.490
The next
caller is James Fowler.
00:41:18.490 --> 00:41:21.137
Your line is open, please go ahead.
00:41:27.560 --> 00:41:28.800
Mr. Fowler--
Fowler your
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.490
line is open.
00:41:30.490 --> 00:41:31.840
Can you hear me?
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.167
Now we can, thank you.
00:41:36.610 --> 00:41:38.530
Okay, well I'm
glad you're not gonna
00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:43.100
increase it, but the fact
that you've already increased
00:41:43.100 --> 00:41:46.030
at 3,000% is not good.
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:49.640
We had two years of
no usage at the facility
00:41:49.640 --> 00:41:52.800
and I think we should go back to that
00:41:54.620 --> 00:41:57.180
as you can hear I and
we in the community
00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:58.440
have been trying to warn you about
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.870
the physical pain we're experiencing.
00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:02.330
When I showed my doctor the list
00:42:02.330 --> 00:42:06.557
of chemicals that I had
in my body, he said to me,
00:42:06.557 --> 00:42:09.717
"I have no idea what to do with you.
00:42:09.717 --> 00:42:11.847
"I don't even know where to send you."
00:42:13.130 --> 00:42:15.830
So for example, the chemicals
that are generally found
00:42:15.830 --> 00:42:17.650
in underground storage facilities
00:42:17.650 --> 00:42:22.520
since we can't get the
ones from SoCalGas,
00:42:22.520 --> 00:42:25.803
are of course the BTX chemicals.
00:42:26.900 --> 00:42:28.470
These are carcinogens,
00:42:28.470 --> 00:42:31.750
barium, petroleum, hydrocarbons
00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:35.210
formaldehyde, acrolein, ethylene,
00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:39.953
dyed bromine, barium,
petroleum, hydrocarbons.
00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:42.843
You know what?
00:42:42.843 --> 00:42:45.560
They're chemicals that I'm
not gonna embarrass myself
00:42:45.560 --> 00:42:47.570
and try to pronounce (laugh).
00:42:48.690 --> 00:42:51.940
But the exposure to low
levels of formaldehyde causes
00:42:51.940 --> 00:42:56.440
eye irritations, nose,
throat, skin, nausea
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:58.180
and difficulty breathing.
00:42:58.180 --> 00:43:02.250
Short-term exposures of
formaldehyde can be fatal.
00:43:02.250 --> 00:43:04.430
Longterm exposures to low levels
00:43:04.430 --> 00:43:09.060
of formaldehyde may cause
respiratory difficulty, eczema.
00:43:09.060 --> 00:43:12.770
Acrolein is highly toxic
and a corrosive substance.
00:43:12.770 --> 00:43:15.840
Inhalation of acrolein
may cause moderate
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.890
to severe eye nose
and respiratory irritations,
00:43:19.890 --> 00:43:22.163
even after a few minutes.
00:43:25.350 --> 00:43:28.003
More words that I can't pronounce.
00:43:28.930 --> 00:43:32.100
Butadein is a firm carcinogen
00:43:32.100 --> 00:43:35.530
and is an irritant in
high concentration.
00:43:35.530 --> 00:43:38.780
Benzene causes central
nervous system damage
00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:41.540
(timer rings)
damage acutely
00:43:41.540 --> 00:43:44.200
and bone marrow damage chronically.
00:43:44.200 --> 00:43:45.593
And as a carcinogen,
00:43:48.700 --> 00:43:50.150
we have all these things
00:43:50.150 --> 00:43:53.250
skin irritation, burning, itching skin
00:43:53.250 --> 00:43:57.130
and I am exhausted from
the constant bombardment
00:43:57.130 --> 00:43:59.670
of these chemicals and
physically not feeling well.
00:43:59.670 --> 00:44:01.270
It is not needed
(timer rings)
00:44:01.270 --> 00:44:02.670
and you should be working
00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:05.340
towards shutting Aliso down because
00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:08.433
we need to move on to clean energy.
00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:10.913
Thank you.
00:44:11.950 --> 00:44:14.082
Thank you, Miss Fowler.
00:44:14.082 --> 00:44:15.782
Operater, the next caller, please.
00:44:16.928 --> 00:44:19.270
The next
caller is Lori Aivazian
00:44:19.270 --> 00:44:21.020
your line is open, please go ahead.
00:44:22.170 --> 00:44:24.150
(clears throat) Excuse me.
00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:25.980
Yes, my name is Lori Aivazian.
00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:29.480
Thank you, Commissioner, for
taking public comments today.
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.610
I am also calling
regarding agenda item 34,
00:44:33.610 --> 00:44:35.500
regarding Aliso Canyon.
00:44:35.500 --> 00:44:38.140
I'm a resident of Porter Ranch
00:44:38.140 --> 00:44:40.650
who lives less than two
miles from the facility.
00:44:40.650 --> 00:44:43.550
I'm a member of the
Aliso Moms' Alliance,
00:44:43.550 --> 00:44:48.550
the Save Porter Ranch, and
the LA County Health Department
00:44:49.020 --> 00:44:51.810
Community Advisor Group
on the $25 million health study
00:44:51.810 --> 00:44:53.650
looking into the health effects
00:44:53.650 --> 00:44:56.700
that the blowout had on
myself and my neighbors.
00:44:56.700 --> 00:44:58.150
My family was driven out
00:44:58.150 --> 00:45:01.160
of our home for five months, very ill.
00:45:01.160 --> 00:45:04.890
We lost pets during the blowout.
00:45:04.890 --> 00:45:08.400
We returned, and to
this day, five years later,
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.420
we still have health effects.
00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:12.700
My daughter suffers,
she's home from college
00:45:12.700 --> 00:45:15.490
because of COVID, suffers
almost daily nose bleeds
00:45:15.490 --> 00:45:17.270
that only happen when she's at home.
00:45:17.270 --> 00:45:18.563
We all get headaches.
00:45:19.640 --> 00:45:24.110
I suffer from horrible rashes,
which go away unexplainably.
00:45:24.110 --> 00:45:28.550
When they come back, when
I look at the CPUC website,
00:45:28.550 --> 00:45:31.340
it always directly
corresponds to base that
00:45:31.340 --> 00:45:33.190
SoCalGas withdraws from the facility.
00:45:34.790 --> 00:45:39.460
Governor Brown promised to
close a facility within 10 years.
00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:44.460
Governor Newsom, last
year, promised our community
00:45:45.020 --> 00:45:47.370
that he would look into
closing it even sooner.
00:45:47.370 --> 00:45:50.230
We would love to have
you on board with that.
00:45:50.230 --> 00:45:53.410
I appreciate you mentioning
that you're going to
00:45:53.410 --> 00:45:57.667
only maintain the capacity
at 34 billion at 34 BCS,
00:46:00.610 --> 00:46:02.760
but I ask also along with my neighbors
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:04.630
and friends who you've
already heard speak
00:46:04.630 --> 00:46:07.760
and many who can't
speak because they're dead.
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.670
I have numerous neighbors just
00:46:09.670 --> 00:46:13.380
in my cul-de-sac has
died of cancers related
00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:16.810
to exposure to the
chemicals at the facility.
00:46:16.810 --> 00:46:21.550
And my daughter has five of
her elementary school teachers
00:46:21.550 --> 00:46:23.350
from Castlebay elementary, which is less
00:46:23.350 --> 00:46:27.500
than a mile from the facility
are dead from cancers.
00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:29.760
I beg of you for my neighbors
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.410
and my family and myself
to consider using it again
00:46:34.410 --> 00:46:37.123
as an asset only of last resort.
00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:41.860
We were in mortal fear
last year during the fire
00:46:41.860 --> 00:46:43.670
it came right up to the facility.
00:46:43.670 --> 00:46:44.630
When I left my house
00:46:44.630 --> 00:46:47.450
and evacuated during
those fires, I feared that
00:46:47.450 --> 00:46:50.610
this time it would be the last
time I'd ever seen my house.
00:46:50.610 --> 00:46:54.360
It's off, it's operating on
an act of earthquake fault.
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.100
Can you imagine how we feel?
00:46:56.100 --> 00:46:57.230
We live in mortal fear
(timer rings)
00:46:57.230 --> 00:47:01.380
all the time of an earthquake
which will decimate us.
00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:03.170
So thank you again
for your consideration
00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:04.503
and allowing me to speak.
00:47:09.220 --> 00:47:10.360
Thank you.
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.060
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:47:13.550 --> 00:47:15.560
The next caller
is Sherry Darrell Ohanian.
00:47:15.560 --> 00:47:17.693
Your line is open please go ahead.
00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:21.230
Hello, can you hear me?
00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:23.830
Hello?
Yes we can.
00:47:23.830 --> 00:47:25.780
Yes, we can hear you fine.
00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:28.390
Thank you, my name
is Sherry Darrell Ohanian.
00:47:28.390 --> 00:47:31.930
I lived in Porter Ranch
for the last 14 years.
00:47:31.930 --> 00:47:35.810
I did move away a couple of
years ago to change schools.
00:47:35.810 --> 00:47:38.930
I had two daughters in grade seven
00:47:38.930 --> 00:47:40.983
at Porter Ranch Community School.
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.820
When the gas leak
started, no one was notified.
00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:47.120
They had no notification system.
00:47:47.120 --> 00:47:50.253
They ended up before
Christmas break of that year,
00:47:51.120 --> 00:47:53.940
December 18th, 2015
00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:56.770
a couple months after
the gas leak started
00:47:56.770 --> 00:48:01.220
they closed down two
schools, 1100 pupils
00:48:01.220 --> 00:48:05.300
at Porter Ranch Community
Schools, grade K through eight.
00:48:05.300 --> 00:48:08.910
And Castlebay Elementary
with over 850 schools.
00:48:08.910 --> 00:48:13.910
I'm sorry, 850 students grades
kindergarten through fifth.
00:48:14.620 --> 00:48:16.810
That's nearly 2000 students
00:48:16.810 --> 00:48:20.270
had to be relocated
to different schools.
00:48:20.270 --> 00:48:24.030
Half of the population,
over 15,000 residents
00:48:24.030 --> 00:48:26.890
of the 30,000 Porter Ranch residents
00:48:26.890 --> 00:48:29.950
also really relocated their homes.
00:48:29.950 --> 00:48:31.030
The thing is,
00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:34.220
with all those toxic
chemicals that my neighbors
00:48:34.220 --> 00:48:37.610
and friends have already itemized.
00:48:37.610 --> 00:48:40.180
How about those 2000 students?
00:48:40.180 --> 00:48:42.718
We don't know the ramifications,
00:48:42.718 --> 00:48:46.230
They went to school for
six hours outside of the area
00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:49.003
a few miles down
the road, but they still,
00:48:50.680 --> 00:48:53.540
those toxic chemicals
are still being released.
00:48:53.540 --> 00:48:56.420
Gavin Newsom has increased,
00:48:56.420 --> 00:49:01.080
the amount of gas led
out of Aliso Canyon.
00:49:01.080 --> 00:49:03.690
It's increased 3000 fold.
00:49:03.690 --> 00:49:05.990
We only had about two years of rest
00:49:05.990 --> 00:49:09.040
from having the gas being used.
00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:12.010
And now that you're going
to keep the levels the same
00:49:12.010 --> 00:49:15.130
it's already up 3000% from when it,
00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:17.400
when Governor Brown was in office,
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.160
we implore you as a
public utility Commission.
00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:23.710
It is your job to protect public health.
00:49:23.710 --> 00:49:25.660
It is your job to have oversight
00:49:25.660 --> 00:49:29.260
on these utility companies
that run rampant.
00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:32.330
Half of the people in
Porter Ranch get sick,
00:49:32.330 --> 00:49:34.820
every time the gas is omitted.
00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:35.950
You need to do something.
00:49:35.950 --> 00:49:37.830
You need to look out for us.
(timer ring)
00:49:37.830 --> 00:49:39.610
You work for the public.
00:49:39.610 --> 00:49:41.680
We are Porter Ranch residents
00:49:41.680 --> 00:49:44.580
and we are imploring you to do something
00:49:44.580 --> 00:49:48.870
about this and get that
gas facility shut down.
00:49:48.870 --> 00:49:52.593
Not next year, not in
10 years now, thank you.
00:49:55.090 --> 00:49:55.923
Thank you,
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.023
operator the next caller, please.
00:50:00.540 --> 00:50:01.890
President
Batjer, there are no more
00:50:01.890 --> 00:50:04.440
participants on the public
comment, telephone line.
00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:08.380
Okay, thank you
very much operator
00:50:09.750 --> 00:50:11.740
with no more callers on the line.
00:50:11.740 --> 00:50:14.570
The public comment period is now closed.
00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:17.170
Thank you for those who
called in and appreciate it.
00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:20.023
Moving forward on our agenda.
00:50:21.240 --> 00:50:24.363
These are the following
changes to today's agenda.
00:50:25.550 --> 00:50:28.050
Item number two will be held until
00:50:28.050 --> 00:50:31.260
the December 3rd, 2020
Commission meeting.
00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:33.880
Item 12 will also be held to the
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.400
December 3rd, 2020 Commission meeting.
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:41.453
Item 34, will take up
with the Consent Agenda.
00:50:42.330 --> 00:50:47.167
Item 41 will be held until the
December 3rd, 2020 meeting
00:50:48.700 --> 00:50:53.283
and item 46 has been withdrawn.
00:50:55.030 --> 00:50:58.050
Before we take up the--
President Batjer?
00:50:58.050 --> 00:50:59.030
Yes.
Can I make a
00:50:59.030 --> 00:51:02.513
motion to hold item 38,
00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:07.190
Cal Water GRC.
00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:10.970
We need to make some
correction to the proposed decision.
00:51:10.970 --> 00:51:13.323
So I would like to
hold it for one meeting.
00:51:15.450 --> 00:51:16.493
Okay.
00:51:17.350 --> 00:51:20.103
We will need to vote on that,
00:51:21.830 --> 00:51:24.880
first before we go forward
on the consent items.
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.880
So is there a motion
would, that on your most,
00:51:32.740 --> 00:51:35.880
then moved and seconded.
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.493
Was there a second?
00:51:37.493 --> 00:51:38.533
Second.
Second.
00:51:39.510 --> 00:51:41.040
Thank you.
00:51:41.040 --> 00:51:43.410
Well, the agenda
clerk, please call the roll
00:51:43.410 --> 00:51:48.410
on holding item number 38 for
the next Commission meeting.
00:51:49.690 --> 00:51:51.390
Commissioner Shiroma.
00:51:55.750 --> 00:51:56.870
Commissioner Shiroma.
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:01.593
Genevieve,
00:52:04.940 --> 00:52:07.523
can the other Commissioners here?
00:52:08.870 --> 00:52:10.083
I can hear.
I cannot hear
00:52:10.083 --> 00:52:13.517
Commissioner Shiroma, I could
not hear Commissioner Shiroma.
00:52:13.517 --> 00:52:14.350
Here neither.
00:52:15.670 --> 00:52:18.630
Commissioner Shiroma
Sorry,
00:52:18.630 --> 00:52:22.250
my earbuds malfunctioned,
did you called my vote.
00:52:22.250 --> 00:52:24.150
Yes, we did.
Okay.
00:52:24.150 --> 00:52:27.332
I vote aye, sorry about that.
00:52:27.332 --> 00:52:29.520
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:31.273
Aye.
00:52:31.273 --> 00:52:33.378
Commissioner Randolph.
00:52:33.378 --> 00:52:34.877
Yes.
00:52:34.877 --> 00:52:37.241
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
00:52:37.241 --> 00:52:38.566
Yes.
00:52:38.566 --> 00:52:40.143
President Batjer.
00:52:40.143 --> 00:52:40.976
Yes.
00:52:40.976 --> 00:52:44.645
The vote is unanimous
to hold item number 38
00:52:44.645 --> 00:52:48.847
until the December 3rd,
2020 Commission meeting.
00:52:48.847 --> 00:52:53.014
All right now we will take
up the essential items.
00:52:54.541 --> 00:52:58.208
Will the agenda clerk,
please call the roll.
00:53:00.087 --> 00:53:01.916
I think we have to move
the consent calendar.
00:53:01.916 --> 00:53:04.666
So I'll make a motion to move it.
00:53:05.631 --> 00:53:07.048
Okay sorry yes.
00:53:08.082 --> 00:53:09.582
I second.
Okay.
00:53:10.699 --> 00:53:15.495
It's been moved and seconded
to move the consent calendar.
00:53:15.495 --> 00:53:18.168
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll.
00:53:18.168 --> 00:53:19.941
Commissioner Shiroma.
00:53:19.941 --> 00:53:21.187
Aye.
00:53:21.187 --> 00:53:23.525
Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
00:53:23.525 --> 00:53:24.791
Aye.
00:53:24.791 --> 00:53:26.748
Commissioner Randolph.
00:53:26.748 --> 00:53:28.271
Yes.
00:53:28.271 --> 00:53:30.269
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
00:53:30.269 --> 00:53:31.665
Yes.
00:53:31.665 --> 00:53:33.380
President Batjer.
00:53:33.380 --> 00:53:35.883
Yes, the vote is unanimous.
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:38.633
Okay.
00:53:39.550 --> 00:53:43.520
We now I don't believe
any of the Commissioners
00:53:43.520 --> 00:53:47.448
have had to speak on any
of the consent items today.
00:53:47.448 --> 00:53:51.667
So we will now move to
the regular agenda and,
00:53:57.250 --> 00:54:01.420
we have the first item number 35
00:54:01.420 --> 00:54:03.070
and that's Commissioner Randolph.
00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:06.857
Thank you, President Batjer.
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:10.750
I would like to present item 35
00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:13.750
an order instituting
rulemaking to identify
00:54:13.750 --> 00:54:16.160
and execute all actions
within the Commission
00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:20.680
statutory authority, to
ensure reliable electric service
00:54:20.680 --> 00:54:23.530
in the event that an
extreme heat storm occurs
00:54:23.530 --> 00:54:25.403
in the summer of 2021.
00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:28.000
As we are all acutely aware
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.580
the West wide regional
prolonged heat storm
00:54:31.580 --> 00:54:34.980
in mid August led to a
variety of circumstances
00:54:34.980 --> 00:54:38.180
that ultimately required the
California Independent System
00:54:38.180 --> 00:54:41.100
operator to initiate rotating outages
00:54:41.100 --> 00:54:43.380
in its balancing authority area
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:46.763
to prevent sustained
widespread service interruptions.
00:54:47.710 --> 00:54:49.460
The Commission is working hand in hand
00:54:49.460 --> 00:54:53.760
with our Sister Energy
Reliability entities.
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:55.620
The Independent System Operator
00:54:55.620 --> 00:55:00.400
and the California Energy
Commission to ensure reliability
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.463
for next summer.
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.230
On October 6th, 2020,
the three entities submitted
00:55:06.230 --> 00:55:09.210
a preliminary root cause analysis report
00:55:09.210 --> 00:55:11.390
and subsequently
brief the California State
00:55:11.390 --> 00:55:14.690
Assembly Committee
on utilities and energy.
00:55:14.690 --> 00:55:17.710
The preliminary report
identifies several actions
00:55:17.710 --> 00:55:20.950
that if implemented in the
recommended timeframes
00:55:20.950 --> 00:55:25.950
near term 2021, midterm 2022 to 2025
00:55:26.140 --> 00:55:29.280
and longer term beyond 2025
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.720
will consistently address
the contributing factors
00:55:31.720 --> 00:55:35.123
that caused the August,
2020 rotating outages.
00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:39.980
We are all moving on
various fronts with regard
00:55:39.980 --> 00:55:44.980
to these recommendations,
both near, mid and longterm.
00:55:45.870 --> 00:55:48.800
And this OIR is a
step towards identifying
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.810
those very near term actions
00:55:50.810 --> 00:55:53.190
that the Commission
could implement to prepare
00:55:53.190 --> 00:55:55.993
for the event of an extended heat storm.
00:55:57.550 --> 00:55:59.480
While we recognize
that getting new supply
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.840
side resources online before next year
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:03.770
will be extremely difficult.
00:56:03.770 --> 00:56:06.610
The Commission is committing
to committed, to exploring
00:56:06.610 --> 00:56:11.610
and pursuing all available
options, to ensure reliability
00:56:11.610 --> 00:56:14.790
and have identified
initially several actions
00:56:14.790 --> 00:56:17.380
and measures that could be taken,
00:56:17.380 --> 00:56:20.333
particularly with regard
to demand side resources.
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.510
Parties to the rulemaking will have the
00:56:23.510 --> 00:56:25.300
to comment to these actions,
00:56:25.300 --> 00:56:27.400
comment on these proposed actions
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.760
and add to the list
with a focus on actions
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.050
that the Commission can
feasibly adopt by April, 2021.
00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:39.870
And that parties and
regulated entities can implement
00:56:39.870 --> 00:56:43.523
for the summer of 2021 or possibly 2022.
00:56:44.890 --> 00:56:48.860
So we plan to look at things
including expedited procurement
00:56:48.860 --> 00:56:51.530
including through the
cost allocation mechanism
00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:54.440
for additional reliability procurement,
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.500
designing a paid advertising program
00:56:57.500 --> 00:57:00.280
for distributing CAISO.
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.620
The Independent System
Operators Flex Alert
00:57:02.620 --> 00:57:04.500
in various outlets.
00:57:04.500 --> 00:57:07.700
Modification to the
Commissions Critical Peak Pricing
00:57:07.700 --> 00:57:11.240
program to increase the
number of allowed events.
00:57:11.240 --> 00:57:15.530
Development of a load
reduction program outside
00:57:15.530 --> 00:57:18.730
the resource adequacy
framework that could be dispatched
00:57:18.730 --> 00:57:22.170
by CAISO or IOUs under specified warning
00:57:22.170 --> 00:57:27.170
or emergency conditions on
a pay for performance basis.
00:57:27.740 --> 00:57:30.700
Considering a mechanism
to update resource adequacy
00:57:30.700 --> 00:57:35.460
requirements in April for the
summer of 2021, if possible.
00:57:35.460 --> 00:57:37.010
Considering revisions to the
00:57:37.010 --> 00:57:39.980
Reliability Demand Response Programs
00:57:39.980 --> 00:57:42.380
that would allow these
programs to be triggered
00:57:43.220 --> 00:57:45.863
in before the warning stage.
00:57:46.770 --> 00:57:48.750
Consider authorizing a variation
00:57:48.750 --> 00:57:52.250
of the utilities Capacity
Bidding program
00:57:52.250 --> 00:57:54.070
in which customers can be dispatched
00:57:54.070 --> 00:57:57.370
in the real-time market
under specified conditions.
00:57:57.370 --> 00:57:59.860
And as I said, we look forward to any
00:57:59.860 --> 00:58:02.563
or all ideas that the
parties may bring forward.
00:58:04.110 --> 00:58:05.830
I would like to thank President Batjer
00:58:05.830 --> 00:58:08.320
and her Chief of staff Shannon O'Rourke
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:13.010
for their work on this pript draft OIR,
00:58:13.010 --> 00:58:15.660
along with my staff
members Anand Durvasula
00:58:15.660 --> 00:58:18.730
Suzanne Casazza and Jason Ortego
00:58:18.730 --> 00:58:20.420
and an excellent ad hoc team
00:58:20.420 --> 00:58:22.770
from Energy Division that came together
00:58:22.770 --> 00:58:26.550
during a very busy time
to brainstorm these ideas
00:58:26.550 --> 00:58:29.100
and put them together into an OIR.
00:58:29.100 --> 00:58:31.970
In particular, I'd like
to thank Pete Skala.
00:58:31.970 --> 00:58:36.260
Aloke Gupta, Bruce
Kaneshiro, Michele Kito
00:58:36.260 --> 00:58:37.960
and Dina Mackin.
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:41.360
And I would also particularly
like to give a huge thanks
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:43.610
to my chief of staff, Christine Powell,
00:58:43.610 --> 00:58:46.430
who put in a tremendous amount of time,
00:58:46.430 --> 00:58:48.360
drafting a very clear document
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.620
and doing the
organizational heavy lifting
00:58:50.620 --> 00:58:52.850
in terms of pulling the team together,
00:58:52.850 --> 00:58:56.610
setting and meeting
milestones to get this OIR ready
00:58:56.610 --> 00:58:59.080
and on the agenda for your vote today
00:58:59.080 --> 00:59:03.923
and setting it on a path
for a decision in the spring.
00:59:04.900 --> 00:59:07.650
So thank you and I asked
for your support on this item.
00:59:08.950 --> 00:59:10.870
Thank you,
Commissioner Randolph.
00:59:10.870 --> 00:59:14.880
I want to echo your thanks to
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:19.370
your chief of staff, Christine
Powell, and to your advisors.
00:59:19.370 --> 00:59:23.270
And of course to the Energy
Division that has worked so hard
00:59:23.270 --> 00:59:27.980
and tirelessly since we had
the heat storms in August
00:59:27.980 --> 00:59:31.920
and September, and to
bring this OIR together.
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.900
You've lead us through the
response to the August blackouts
00:59:34.900 --> 00:59:37.070
in real time in your work
00:59:37.070 --> 00:59:40.130
with the other agencies
on the root cause analysis.
00:59:40.130 --> 00:59:42.380
And now in developing this OIR
00:59:42.380 --> 00:59:46.570
in looking ahead to what
we can do for next summer.
00:59:46.570 --> 00:59:50.360
As you noted Commissioner
Randolph, the importance to act
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.300
and to act quickly to not be overstated,
00:59:53.300 --> 00:59:56.760
we must take every step within
the Commission's Authority
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.470
as quickly as possible to ensure that
00:59:59.470 --> 01:00:02.630
the state maintains
reliable electric service,
01:00:02.630 --> 01:00:05.950
in the event there's another
heat storm next summer.
01:00:05.950 --> 01:00:08.700
We need to assume and
operate that this will be
01:00:08.700 --> 01:00:10.300
indeed the case.
01:00:10.300 --> 01:00:12.930
California's deserve
clean, reliable energy
01:00:12.930 --> 01:00:15.220
and it will be my
top priority next year,
01:00:15.220 --> 01:00:18.500
to ensure that we bring to
bear all of the supply and
01:00:18.500 --> 01:00:22.500
demand side resources
possible to maintain that reliability.
01:00:22.500 --> 01:00:26.230
The OIR does a good job of laying out
01:00:26.230 --> 01:00:29.850
some viable near term
options as you have outlined.
01:00:29.850 --> 01:00:33.210
And I'm very much looking
forward to working with staff
01:00:33.210 --> 01:00:37.350
and hearing from the parties
on how we can implement them.
01:00:37.350 --> 01:00:39.567
As of the proceeding
timelines, our staff
01:00:39.567 --> 01:00:43.430
and the judge will be working
hard to move this forward.
01:00:43.430 --> 01:00:46.080
And we will also need
the engagement of parties
01:00:46.080 --> 01:00:49.810
to give us their proposals
on a very fast timeline.
01:00:49.810 --> 01:00:52.490
This is an example like
the micro goods proceeding
01:00:52.490 --> 01:00:55.420
and the bankruptcy proceedings
where the Commission can
01:00:55.420 --> 01:00:58.740
and will move quickly and it will be
01:00:58.740 --> 01:01:01.070
a priority of mine to ensure that.
01:01:01.070 --> 01:01:02.630
So once again, Commissioner Randolph
01:01:02.630 --> 01:01:04.810
I wanna thank you, your staff
01:01:04.810 --> 01:01:09.660
and the Energy Division who
helped to develop this OIR.
01:01:09.660 --> 01:01:12.400
And I add my thanks
also to my chief of staff,
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.170
Shannon O'Rourke thank you so much.
01:01:15.170 --> 01:01:18.240
And I obviously will be voting for this.
01:01:18.240 --> 01:01:19.920
Are there any other comments
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.320
from the other Commissioners on item 35?
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:26.433
Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:01:29.550 --> 01:01:33.100
Thank you and I
also want to thank you
01:01:33.100 --> 01:01:35.650
Commissioner Randolph and
President Batjer and your staff
01:01:35.650 --> 01:01:38.623
and really the remarkable
work of the Energy Division.
01:01:40.410 --> 01:01:43.660
Some of these things
on this list are not new.
01:01:43.660 --> 01:01:48.450
And I think it's perhaps the
silver lining of this summer
01:01:48.450 --> 01:01:51.770
is that we're going to really accomplish
01:01:53.780 --> 01:01:55.473
finally finding resolutions
01:01:55.473 --> 01:01:57.800
because there really are opportunities
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.540
and different ways to resolve these.
01:02:00.540 --> 01:02:05.040
I particularly wanna call obviously
01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:08.160
on the continued partnership
with our Sister Agencies
01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.680
and the opportunity to really resolve
01:02:10.680 --> 01:02:14.890
any of the lack of alignment
on making these possible.
01:02:14.890 --> 01:02:18.810
And I know that their
leadership is equally focused
01:02:18.810 --> 01:02:21.030
on these issues.
01:02:21.030 --> 01:02:25.080
In particular, I do want
to also acknowledge
01:02:25.080 --> 01:02:26.930
some of the comments from the public,
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:32.101
recognizing the need for
more distributed resources.
01:02:32.101 --> 01:02:35.230
And of course these resources being
01:02:35.230 --> 01:02:39.710
in the local areas
that are most important
01:02:39.710 --> 01:02:42.060
like the LA Basin.
01:02:42.060 --> 01:02:44.363
So I hope we look not just that,
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.040
new resources of course
but how to really optimize
01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:50.920
the existing resources.
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:54.560
And I know that's one
of your focus areas here.
01:02:54.560 --> 01:02:58.700
And I'm particularly
excited to see us take
01:02:58.700 --> 01:03:03.380
on the issue of making
sure we're really optimizing
01:03:03.380 --> 01:03:07.330
and not triggering
optimizing a big program
01:03:07.330 --> 01:03:09.710
and not having to
utilize it post trigger.
01:03:09.710 --> 01:03:12.510
So look forward to anything
I can do to help with that
01:03:12.510 --> 01:03:14.000
but thank you very much.
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.540
And I really look forward
01:03:15.540 --> 01:03:17.950
to the public comments on this as well.
01:03:17.950 --> 01:03:19.970
I'm sure there are
things that we are missing
01:03:19.970 --> 01:03:22.263
and can take even further action.
01:03:25.780 --> 01:03:28.780
Thank you, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves, any other comments?
01:03:29.950 --> 01:03:31.303
Yes, Commissioner Shiroma.
01:03:33.150 --> 01:03:34.083
Yes thank you.
01:03:34.990 --> 01:03:36.970
Thank you, Commissioner Randolph.
01:03:36.970 --> 01:03:39.620
Thank you, President Batjer.
01:03:39.620 --> 01:03:42.230
I will be voting in support of this item
01:03:43.460 --> 01:03:47.240
now that we have the
preliminary root cause analysis
01:03:47.240 --> 01:03:49.830
that's definitely is imperative
01:03:49.830 --> 01:03:54.360
that we could be respond,
lift this new rulemaking.
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:56.990
I appreciate that it will
be taking comments
01:03:56.990 --> 01:04:00.190
on a very diverse set of
short term opportunities
01:04:00.190 --> 01:04:02.320
to increase energy supply
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.130
and decreased demand
is the key to acquire input
01:04:06.130 --> 01:04:08.990
from a wide variety of stakeholders.
01:04:08.990 --> 01:04:12.020
I noted the question teed up in the OIR
01:04:12.020 --> 01:04:15.600
on the potential opportunities
for measures to expand
01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:17.870
Electric Vehicle participation
01:04:17.870 --> 01:04:19.970
in demand response programs
01:04:19.970 --> 01:04:24.970
and hope we continue to
build into that opportunity.
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.980
And as we look to the future to leverage
01:04:27.980 --> 01:04:31.770
the autonomous vehicles,
as part of that effort as well.
01:04:31.770 --> 01:04:35.610
So a little bit of a preview of
item 40 later on our agenda.
01:04:35.610 --> 01:04:39.580
And well, we can hear
you to do the deep dive
01:04:39.580 --> 01:04:43.150
into the root cause of
what happened in August.
01:04:43.150 --> 01:04:46.570
I also appreciate that our
Sister Energy the CAISO
01:04:46.570 --> 01:04:50.090
is working to understand
any witnesses in our markets
01:04:50.090 --> 01:04:51.240
that can be exploited
01:04:53.340 --> 01:04:58.340
and looked for the protections
against such exploitation
01:04:58.410 --> 01:05:03.260
all towards prevention of
this happening again next year.
01:05:03.260 --> 01:05:05.703
So thank you, thank you very much.
01:05:19.455 --> 01:05:20.288
I think you're muted
01:05:20.288 --> 01:05:23.010
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
we can't hear you.
01:05:23.010 --> 01:05:25.820
No, I was I didn't hear
that you called on me
01:05:25.820 --> 01:05:27.490
President Batjer.
01:05:27.490 --> 01:05:29.200
I wanna thank Commissioner Randolph
01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:30.970
and you for this decision.
01:05:30.970 --> 01:05:33.870
I'm strongly supportive
and I'll be voting in favor of it.
01:05:36.380 --> 01:05:38.160
Thank you, Commissioner.
01:05:38.160 --> 01:05:43.160
Okay and it seems no more
comments on item number 35.
01:05:44.163 --> 01:05:46.703
Will the agenda clerk
please call the roll.
01:05:47.828 --> 01:05:49.470
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:05:49.470 --> 01:05:51.080
Aye.
01:05:51.080 --> 01:05:53.140
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:05:53.140 --> 01:05:53.973
Aye.
01:05:55.120 --> 01:05:57.220
Commissioner Randolph.
01:05:57.220 --> 01:05:58.670
Yes.
01:05:58.670 --> 01:06:00.690
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:06:00.690 --> 01:06:02.070
Yes.
01:06:02.070 --> 01:06:03.890
President Batjer.
01:06:03.890 --> 01:06:08.290
Yes, item number 35
is passed unanimously.
01:06:08.290 --> 01:06:10.240
Again thank you, Commissioner Randolph.
01:06:11.160 --> 01:06:13.750
Moving on to item 36
01:06:13.750 --> 01:06:17.040
which will be presented
by Melissa Semcer
01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:19.573
of our Wildfire Safety Division.
01:06:20.540 --> 01:06:25.260
And I believe the next
item 37 will be presented
01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:29.720
by the Wildfire Division,
Wildfire Safety Division
01:06:30.660 --> 01:06:34.380
Christopher Meyer, so Meyer, excuse me.
01:06:34.380 --> 01:06:38.290
So I don't know whether
you're presenting separately.
01:06:38.290 --> 01:06:40.493
We will vote separately of course but,
01:06:41.740 --> 01:06:43.053
Melissa and Christopher.
01:06:44.580 --> 01:06:46.310
Hi, this is
Melissa I'm here.
01:06:46.310 --> 01:06:49.770
We're planning on
presenting together right now
01:06:49.770 --> 01:06:52.960
and then hand it over
to you to vote separately.
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:55.170
Okay, thank you, Melissa.
01:06:55.170 --> 01:06:56.940
Thank you.
01:06:56.940 --> 01:06:58.140
Good morning Commissioners.
01:06:58.140 --> 01:07:00.670
And on behalf of the
Wildfire Safety Division,
01:07:00.670 --> 01:07:03.280
thank you for the opportunity to present
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:05.660
the Wildfire Safety
Divisions resolutions
01:07:05.660 --> 01:07:09.660
on the 2021 Wildfire Mitigation Plans,
01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:13.260
Safety Culture Assessment
and the Compliance Process.
01:07:13.260 --> 01:07:15.580
As mentioned my name is Melissa Semcer
01:07:15.580 --> 01:07:16.970
and I'm the Program Manager
01:07:16.970 --> 01:07:18.860
for the Wildfire Mitigation branch
01:07:18.860 --> 01:07:21.120
in the Wildfire Safety Division.
01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:24.580
The mitigation branch is
responsible for evaluating
01:07:24.580 --> 01:07:27.770
Electrical Corporations
Wildfire Mitigation Plans,
01:07:27.770 --> 01:07:30.710
as well as evaluating
requests for safety certificates,
01:07:30.710 --> 01:07:34.923
pursuant to the criteria and
public utilities code 8389E.
01:07:36.650 --> 01:07:39.701
Today, I will provide a
short overview of resolution
01:07:39.701 --> 01:07:42.293
WSC011, which is item 36,
01:07:43.150 --> 01:07:45.340
that updates the
Wildfire Mitigation Plans
01:07:45.340 --> 01:07:49.960
or WMPs guidelines and process for 2021
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:51.700
and also proposals to process for
01:07:51.700 --> 01:07:53.120
the Wildfire Safety Divisions
01:07:53.120 --> 01:07:55.150
annual safety culture assessment.
01:07:55.150 --> 01:07:57.010
And then I'll hand it
over to Christopher Meyer
01:07:57.010 --> 01:07:59.900
to present resolution WSC012,
01:07:59.900 --> 01:08:02.910
which is item 37 that
provides recommendations
01:08:02.910 --> 01:08:05.773
on the Wildfire Safety
Divisions compliance process.
01:08:08.700 --> 01:08:11.880
Resolution WSC011 provides
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:14.460
a proposals guidance on the 2021 updates
01:08:14.460 --> 01:08:17.290
to Wildfire Mitigation Plans
and develop the process
01:08:17.290 --> 01:08:19.680
as mentioned for the
safety culture assessments.
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.640
First, I wanna highlight
that the entirety of WSC011
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.980
has been informed by the
recommendations that we received
01:08:26.980 --> 01:08:30.740
from the wildfire Safety
Advisory Board in June of 2020
01:08:30.740 --> 01:08:34.483
as required by the public
utilities code section 8389.
01:08:35.340 --> 01:08:37.160
The division considered
each of the boards
01:08:37.160 --> 01:08:41.400
23 recommendations, and
prioritize 16 to incorporate
01:08:41.400 --> 01:08:43.870
into the resolution and its attachment.
01:08:43.870 --> 01:08:47.700
The 16 incorporated broadly
focused on the following areas.
01:08:47.700 --> 01:08:51.380
First, further clarifying
and standardizing metrics
01:08:51.380 --> 01:08:53.480
such as clearly defining all risk events
01:08:53.480 --> 01:08:55.970
that could have caused an ignition.
01:08:55.970 --> 01:08:58.380
Second, requiring additional reporting
01:08:58.380 --> 01:09:00.500
in the Wildfire Mitigation Plans,
01:09:00.500 --> 01:09:04.140
such as worker qualifications
and providing a risk analysis
01:09:04.140 --> 01:09:07.020
on each wildfire initiative.
01:09:07.020 --> 01:09:10.710
And third, reshaping the
wildfire mitigation plan, process
01:09:10.710 --> 01:09:13.680
and timeline to enable
more complete plans
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:15.293
and time for evaluation.
01:09:16.350 --> 01:09:17.640
There were seven recommendations
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.040
we did not incorporate at this time.
01:09:20.040 --> 01:09:22.930
Most of these are either
outside the scope of the divisions
01:09:22.930 --> 01:09:25.600
and best handled by other
parts of the Commission
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:28.660
over prioritize as part
of a longer term effort
01:09:28.660 --> 01:09:32.800
following the 2021 Wildfire
Mitigation plan cycle.
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:36.690
For example, solving
utilities resource constraints
01:09:36.690 --> 01:09:38.210
which is a longer-term issue
01:09:38.210 --> 01:09:40.230
that the division may support
01:09:40.230 --> 01:09:43.040
but ultimately outside of our scope.
01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:45.810
And adopting a comprehensive risk metric
01:09:45.810 --> 01:09:47.950
which is best addressed
within the context
01:09:47.950 --> 01:09:50.680
of the Commission's
ongoing risk focus proceedings
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.383
such as the ramp proceedings.
01:09:54.070 --> 01:09:56.090
Our full analysis of the
board's recommendation
01:09:56.090 --> 01:10:00.113
can be found in attachment
one to resolution WSC011.
01:10:02.510 --> 01:10:03.910
Next I'll provide an overview
01:10:03.910 --> 01:10:05.600
of our recommendations regarding
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:08.393
the Wildcard Mitigation
plans themselves for 2021.
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:11.430
We are providing you
with recommended updates
01:10:11.430 --> 01:10:14.130
to both the guidelines,
which is the information
01:10:14.130 --> 01:10:17.640
the utilities must provide
in their 2021 WMP
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.003
as well as the overall process itself.
01:10:20.890 --> 01:10:24.220
Our changes to the WMP
guidelines are relatively light
01:10:24.220 --> 01:10:26.290
and therefore ensure compare ability
01:10:26.290 --> 01:10:28.810
to the prior year submissions.
01:10:28.810 --> 01:10:31.970
The changes focus
on clarifying definitions,
01:10:31.970 --> 01:10:34.490
maturity model capabilities and metrics
01:10:34.490 --> 01:10:36.360
while keeping requirements consistent
01:10:36.360 --> 01:10:38.810
with 2021 guidelines to allow that year
01:10:38.810 --> 01:10:41.150
over year progress tracking.
01:10:41.150 --> 01:10:42.920
Standardizing quantitative data
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.440
and adding structure
to narrative responses
01:10:46.310 --> 01:10:49.220
and reorganizing the
requirements to streamline
01:10:49.220 --> 01:10:52.620
both the utility submissions
and our review process.
01:10:52.620 --> 01:10:54.920
For example, creating a new section
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.350
where all information
related to public safety,
01:10:57.350 --> 01:10:59.860
power shutoff will be housed as opposed
01:10:59.860 --> 01:11:03.037
to that information being
found throughout utilities WMP
01:11:03.037 --> 01:11:04.873
as was the case in 2020.
01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:09.300
Our proposed changes to the WMP process
01:11:09.300 --> 01:11:10.810
are also relatively light
01:11:10.810 --> 01:11:13.300
and focus on making
the WMP review schedule
01:11:13.300 --> 01:11:16.360
more efficient and feasible
for everyone involved.
01:11:16.360 --> 01:11:18.820
We propose to first offset the small
01:11:18.820 --> 01:11:20.690
and multi-jurisdictional utilities
01:11:20.690 --> 01:11:23.650
and independent transmission
owners submission to 30 days
01:11:23.650 --> 01:11:27.430
after the February 5th
large utility submission date.
01:11:27.430 --> 01:11:30.050
This gives the division
a dedicated months
01:11:30.050 --> 01:11:33.500
to focus on reviewing
the large IOU plans
01:11:33.500 --> 01:11:34.740
and provides additional time
01:11:34.740 --> 01:11:37.003
for smaller utilities
to prepare their plans.
01:11:38.012 --> 01:11:41.620
And second, we propose moving
quantitative WMP requirements
01:11:41.620 --> 01:11:44.090
into new quarterly reports.
01:11:44.090 --> 01:11:47.050
This will enable the
division to receive data more
01:11:47.050 --> 01:11:49.060
frequently and conduct analysis
01:11:49.060 --> 01:11:50.883
and assess progress year around.
01:11:52.910 --> 01:11:54.760
Regarding the safety
culture assessments.
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:56.420
There are a few things
I'd like to highlight
01:11:56.420 --> 01:11:58.720
about the process we are proposing.
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:01.270
First, the divisions
safety culture assessment
01:12:01.270 --> 01:12:03.450
will be distinct from
the Commission broader
01:12:03.450 --> 01:12:05.960
safety culture assessment in two ways.
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:08.690
First, the division safety
culture assessment
01:12:08.690 --> 01:12:10.100
must be conducted annually
01:12:10.100 --> 01:12:12.320
in contrast with the
Commissions assessment
01:12:12.320 --> 01:12:15.480
which must be conducted
at least every five years.
01:12:15.480 --> 01:12:17.900
Second, the division
safety culture assessment
01:12:17.900 --> 01:12:21.080
will be focused primarily
on Wildfire Safety.
01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:22.920
While of course still
covering some elements
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:24.670
of broad safety cultural,
01:12:24.670 --> 01:12:27.263
which are essential to
wildfire safety outcomes.
01:12:28.770 --> 01:12:30.670
In developing our proposed process,
01:12:30.670 --> 01:12:33.050
we have been coordinating
with our colleagues
01:12:33.050 --> 01:12:34.400
in the Safety Policy Division
01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:37.350
and we aspire to continue to
coordinate as we move forward.
01:12:39.360 --> 01:12:42.600
Second, the division safety
culture assessment by nature
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.460
of being conducted annually
aims to measure improvement
01:12:45.460 --> 01:12:48.650
in safety culture over
time, in a consistent fashion
01:12:48.650 --> 01:12:50.973
and accordingly drive accountability.
01:12:52.350 --> 01:12:54.700
Each of this is having
standard assessment tools
01:12:54.700 --> 01:12:57.140
which can be applied across
all Electrical Corporations
01:12:57.140 --> 01:12:58.370
year over year.
01:12:58.370 --> 01:13:01.393
And of course we plan to
improve, as we learn these tools.
01:13:02.380 --> 01:13:04.610
We also recognize that
a lot of safety culture work
01:13:04.610 --> 01:13:06.430
has been done by the Commission
01:13:06.430 --> 01:13:08.150
and we took into account those learnings
01:13:08.150 --> 01:13:09.890
and we'll continue to do so
01:13:09.890 --> 01:13:12.120
as we develop assessment
tools that can be used
01:13:12.120 --> 01:13:14.253
in a consistent way
across the utilities.
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.120
Third, the division who
poses to basis assessment
01:13:18.120 --> 01:13:21.750
on five forms of data,
surveys, self-assessments,
01:13:21.750 --> 01:13:25.063
interviews, observations,
and supporting documentation.
01:13:25.900 --> 01:13:27.940
We may phase in some of these elements
01:13:27.940 --> 01:13:29.320
over the initial years
01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:31.057
and we'll likely streamline the process
01:13:31.057 --> 01:13:33.143
for the smaller Electrical Corporations.
01:13:35.250 --> 01:13:37.050
If our proposed process is adopted,
01:13:37.050 --> 01:13:39.250
we plan to release detailed requirements
01:13:39.250 --> 01:13:41.660
for Electrical
Corporation later this year
01:13:41.660 --> 01:13:43.230
for stakeholder feedback.
01:13:43.230 --> 01:13:47.140
And conduct our first safety
culture assessment in 2021.
01:13:47.140 --> 01:13:49.250
And with that, I will
hand it over to Christopher
01:13:49.250 --> 01:13:52.283
to discuss resolution in WSD012.
01:13:53.140 --> 01:13:53.973
Thank you.
01:13:57.960 --> 01:13:59.200
Good
morning President Batjer,
01:13:59.200 --> 01:14:00.140
good morning Commissioners.
01:14:00.140 --> 01:14:01.190
My name is Christopher Meyer.
01:14:01.190 --> 01:14:04.300
I'm the Program Manager
for the Compliance Branch.
01:14:04.300 --> 01:14:06.500
I appreciate the opportunity
to present our proposed
01:14:06.500 --> 01:14:08.580
compliance process to
the Commission and briefly
01:14:08.580 --> 01:14:11.510
discuss the work that
compliance branch has been doing.
01:14:11.510 --> 01:14:15.040
And before I get into the
specific process recommendations
01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:17.640
let me give you just a
short overview of the work
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:18.903
we've been doing so far.
01:14:19.910 --> 01:14:22.700
The compliance branch
has hired nine staff
01:14:22.700 --> 01:14:24.620
with three remaining open positions.
01:14:24.620 --> 01:14:26.640
As we ramped up our staffing
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.120
we began developing their
initial compliance procedures
01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:31.420
and equipping training our teams
01:14:31.420 --> 01:14:33.540
to conduct compliance activities.
01:14:33.540 --> 01:14:36.570
To date we've converted
the Wildfire mitigation plan
01:14:36.570 --> 01:14:38.700
requirements into
just structured category
01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:41.890
and defect codes, to
facilitate the inspection
01:14:41.890 --> 01:14:45.540
and audit activities,
developed a methodology to
01:14:45.540 --> 01:14:47.280
prioritize compliance activities
01:14:47.280 --> 01:14:50.770
for higher risk of BMP
implementation areas,
01:14:50.770 --> 01:14:53.890
established key performance
metrics to track defect
01:14:53.890 --> 01:14:58.490
resolution, established
initial coordination process
01:14:58.490 --> 01:15:01.150
with the safety enforcement division to
01:15:01.150 --> 01:15:03.550
address defect defects
01:15:03.550 --> 01:15:06.563
and emerging issues for
potential enforcement action.
01:15:07.450 --> 01:15:09.820
The compliance branch
staff started field inspections
01:15:09.820 --> 01:15:11.730
on Electrical Corporation compliance
01:15:11.730 --> 01:15:16.200
with the WMP initiatives in may of 2020.
01:15:16.200 --> 01:15:20.750
To date, we have completed
over 2,400 inspection activities
01:15:20.750 --> 01:15:25.080
identifying 154 WMP defects.
01:15:25.080 --> 01:15:28.400
Staff worked with the electric
corporations to resolve 52
01:15:28.400 --> 01:15:31.530
of these defects in our
working to expedition process
01:15:31.530 --> 01:15:34.113
the remaining 102, that remain open.
01:15:35.190 --> 01:15:38.160
This work that the compliance
branch had completed so far
01:15:38.160 --> 01:15:41.950
it set the stage for
the resolution WSD 12
01:15:41.950 --> 01:15:45.203
and the inaugural compliance
process submission today.
01:15:46.620 --> 01:15:50.830
Resolution WSD 12 proposals
that process for the WSD
01:15:50.830 --> 01:15:53.860
to oversee wildfire
mitigation plan compliance,
01:15:53.860 --> 01:15:56.060
including appropriate metrics
01:15:56.060 --> 01:15:59.183
and processes for
determining utility compliance.
01:16:00.550 --> 01:16:03.960
The division proposes a
two-part compliance process
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:07.250
part one is the ongoing and
annual compliance assessments
01:16:07.250 --> 01:16:10.840
in which the WSD determined
each utilities compliance
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.230
throughout the compliance period
01:16:13.230 --> 01:16:15.330
and then conducted an annual review
01:16:15.330 --> 01:16:17.563
at the end of each compliance period.
01:16:18.690 --> 01:16:21.680
The second part is the consequences
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:26.330
of compliance assessments
in which WSD will work
01:16:26.330 --> 01:16:27.920
with utilities to minimize
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.560
and or resolve welfare safety issues.
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.440
And non-compliance with WMP initiatives.
01:16:34.440 --> 01:16:37.410
The ongoing compliance
assessment through field inspections
01:16:37.410 --> 01:16:40.230
and regular audits of the
Electrical Corporation compliance
01:16:40.230 --> 01:16:43.030
with WMP initiatives is a core part
01:16:43.030 --> 01:16:45.280
of WSD's compliance strategy.
01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:48.700
The fuel inspections provide
near real-time notification
01:16:48.700 --> 01:16:52.370
and expedited resolutions
of the Electrical Corporations
01:16:52.370 --> 01:16:55.020
WP defects, and provide transparency
01:16:55.020 --> 01:16:58.030
into the progress towards
brisk reduction goals.
01:16:58.030 --> 01:17:00.860
Regular audits allow
WSD staff to expeditiously
01:17:00.860 --> 01:17:04.620
address WP compliance
concerns, not easily resolved
01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:08.060
through fueled
inspections and also to deal
01:17:08.060 --> 01:17:11.650
with questions raised
periodic reports received,
01:17:11.650 --> 01:17:14.840
excuse me received by
the Electrical Corporation.
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:18.883
Although the expedited
remedy timelines proposed,
01:17:20.100 --> 01:17:23.410
use the same definitions for severity as
01:17:23.410 --> 01:17:26.890
June 95 through 18 for consistency.
01:17:26.890 --> 01:17:31.590
WSD has proposed shortened
shortening resolution timeframes
01:17:31.590 --> 01:17:34.363
or WMP defects are as follows:
01:17:35.260 --> 01:17:40.260
for severe defects, they
would remain, excuse me,
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:42.150
they would remain immediate
01:17:42.150 --> 01:17:45.450
or temporarily repaired
to a lower risk level.
01:17:45.450 --> 01:17:49.350
Moderate defects in
tier three would move
01:17:49.350 --> 01:17:53.550
from six months to a
range of one to two months,
01:17:53.550 --> 01:17:57.610
moderate defects in tier
two move from 12 months
01:17:57.610 --> 01:17:59.550
to three to six months,
01:17:59.550 --> 01:18:02.300
moderate worker safety defects moved
01:18:02.300 --> 01:18:04.890
from 12 months to six months
01:18:04.890 --> 01:18:09.570
and other moderate defects
move from 36 months to 12 months
01:18:09.570 --> 01:18:12.780
with minor defects moving
from 60 months to 12 months.
01:18:12.780 --> 01:18:17.160
And I note that we
did allow a caveat that
01:18:17.160 --> 01:18:20.150
if the utility was not
going to be able to move
01:18:20.150 --> 01:18:22.550
into that 12 months,
they could address it
01:18:22.550 --> 01:18:27.550
in their revised WMP
in the next WMP update.
01:18:29.270 --> 01:18:32.670
Based on these ongoing or
annual compliance assessments
01:18:32.670 --> 01:18:35.690
the WSD may recommend
that the Commission pursue
01:18:35.690 --> 01:18:38.390
an enforcement action
pursuant to public resource code
01:18:39.340 --> 01:18:41.223
section 8389G.
01:18:43.330 --> 01:18:47.260
It's a proposed compliance
process in resolution WSD 12
01:18:47.260 --> 01:18:48.440
is approved by the Commission.
01:18:48.440 --> 01:18:51.630
WSD will develop operational
protocol, excuse me
01:18:51.630 --> 01:18:54.370
operational compliance
protocols that will provide
01:18:54.370 --> 01:18:57.690
additional granularity on how
the WSD reviews and reports
01:18:57.690 --> 01:19:01.570
on the information provided
by the Electrical Corporation.
01:19:01.570 --> 01:19:04.160
These draft operational
compliance protocols
01:19:04.160 --> 01:19:07.580
would be circulated for
stakeholder comment
01:19:07.580 --> 01:19:08.913
before finalization.
01:19:09.790 --> 01:19:11.950
The proposed compliance process detailed
01:19:11.950 --> 01:19:16.180
in resolution WSD 12,
will enable the WSD to fully,
01:19:16.180 --> 01:19:21.180
to fulfill its statutory obligations
to oversee compliance
01:19:21.360 --> 01:19:23.900
with each utilities WMP.
01:19:23.900 --> 01:19:27.220
If we step back, I want
to ground us in that,
01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:30.960
what we have been aiming
to excuse me in ground us
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:34.010
in what we've been trying to achieve,
01:19:34.010 --> 01:19:38.560
which is to drive reduction
in utility wildfire risk.
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:41.650
We believe that the
recommendations put forward
01:19:41.650 --> 01:19:46.650
for your consideration
in WSD 11 and WSD 12,
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.380
will drive utilities to
submit better information
01:19:50.380 --> 01:19:54.000
in their WMPs, make our
WMP process more efficient
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.300
and effective, hopeless
to increasingly hold utilities
01:19:57.300 --> 01:20:00.700
accountable for improving
your underlying safety culture
01:20:00.700 --> 01:20:02.750
and better hold utilities accountable
01:20:02.750 --> 01:20:05.220
for WMP implementation.
01:20:05.220 --> 01:20:07.950
As you're all aware,
the real driver of change
01:20:07.950 --> 01:20:12.950
and accordingly risk reduction,
here is IOU accountability.
01:20:13.240 --> 01:20:15.250
The WSD will continue to work with the
01:20:15.250 --> 01:20:18.120
Safety Eforcement Division,
Safety Policy Division
01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:20.800
and the Broader Commission
to share information
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:24.250
and integrate our compliance
and enforcement processes
01:20:24.250 --> 01:20:26.610
to drive Electrical
Corporation accountability
01:20:26.610 --> 01:20:30.840
on welfare safety
effectively and expeditiously.
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:33.180
With that, the Welfare
Safety Division submit
01:20:33.180 --> 01:20:38.037
to you for approval
consideration resolutions WSD 11,
01:20:38.037 --> 01:20:39.797
on the Wildfire Mitigation Plans
01:20:39.797 --> 01:20:41.940
and safety culture assessment,
01:20:41.940 --> 01:20:45.750
WSD 12 on the plans compliance process
01:20:45.750 --> 01:20:47.620
and their respective attachments
01:20:47.620 --> 01:20:49.963
which articulate the
full recommendations.
01:20:51.124 --> 01:20:53.350
That's concludes our presentation.
01:20:53.350 --> 01:20:54.350
Thank you very much.
01:20:55.820 --> 01:20:59.820
Thank you very much,
Christopher, as well as Melissa.
01:20:59.820 --> 01:21:01.483
Very thorough, thank you.
01:21:02.370 --> 01:21:04.110
We will need to vote on these separately
01:21:04.110 --> 01:21:06.440
even though you presented together.
01:21:06.440 --> 01:21:11.330
So, we will first take
up item number 36.
01:21:11.330 --> 01:21:13.040
Are there any comments or questions
01:21:13.040 --> 01:21:15.603
on item number 36
from the Commissioners?
01:21:18.054 --> 01:21:22.807
I see, yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:21:25.660 --> 01:21:28.120
I wanna point out that
this is the culmination
01:21:28.120 --> 01:21:32.540
of a huge body of really
groundbreaking work
01:21:33.460 --> 01:21:37.210
that has made Wildfire
Mitigation a top priority
01:21:37.210 --> 01:21:40.750
following the devastating
wildfires in recent years
01:21:40.750 --> 01:21:43.530
and these resolutions and the whole set
01:21:43.530 --> 01:21:46.720
of activities represented
tremendous effort
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:49.610
by the Wildfire Safety Division,
01:21:49.610 --> 01:21:51.750
in coordination with
many partners, state
01:21:51.750 --> 01:21:54.420
and local partners,
advisory groups, parties.
01:21:54.420 --> 01:21:57.070
I wanna commend Melissa, Chris
01:21:57.070 --> 01:22:01.030
and Wildfire Safety Division
Director, Thomas Jacobs
01:22:01.030 --> 01:22:04.700
and their team for
all the really hard work
01:22:04.700 --> 01:22:07.210
they've done here, creating
a program from scratch
01:22:07.210 --> 01:22:09.580
in the middle of
intense wildfire seasons
01:22:11.139 --> 01:22:14.240
with enormous
expectations from the public
01:22:14.240 --> 01:22:16.713
and everyone else for achieving results.
01:22:17.730 --> 01:22:20.610
I wanna underscore one
point again that Melissa made,
01:22:20.610 --> 01:22:24.010
it's very important,
but fourth underscoring
01:22:24.010 --> 01:22:26.870
that the wildfire Safety
culture assessments
01:22:26.870 --> 01:22:30.590
are really just one part
of our broader safety
01:22:30.590 --> 01:22:34.700
culture assessments, that
either we've been doing already
01:22:34.700 --> 01:22:38.097
as in the case of PG and E
or we'll be doing for all IOUs
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:41.840
safety culture work is
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:46.730
one of our most important
tools to promote public safety,
01:22:46.730 --> 01:22:50.350
safety of workers,
contractors, and so forth.
01:22:50.350 --> 01:22:54.270
I'm very glad to hear
Melissa emphasize that
01:22:54.270 --> 01:22:57.010
the Wildfire Safety
Division efforts are being
01:22:57.010 --> 01:23:00.010
coordinated with this
broader safety culture work.
01:23:00.010 --> 01:23:02.910
And I hope and trust
that that will continue.
01:23:02.910 --> 01:23:05.823
With that I'll be strongly
supporting this resolution.
01:23:07.310 --> 01:23:08.820
Thank you, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
01:23:08.820 --> 01:23:09.993
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:23:12.250 --> 01:23:13.283
Yes, thank you.
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:19.533
Thank you to the team
in advancing this work.
01:23:20.420 --> 01:23:22.810
I am part of
01:23:24.110 --> 01:23:27.500
National Committee that is looking at
01:23:27.500 --> 01:23:32.500
best practices for
emergency preparedness
01:23:33.040 --> 01:23:36.450
here in the West
wildfires and earthquakes,
01:23:36.450 --> 01:23:40.870
and in so much more during
the pandemic are top of mind.
01:23:40.870 --> 01:23:45.000
And so these resolutions
are very important steps
01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.840
in our ongoing framework.
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:50.120
I think many are looking into California
01:23:50.120 --> 01:23:53.230
for our best practices and our work with
01:23:54.420 --> 01:23:58.700
our nearby States and best
practices that can be applied
01:23:58.700 --> 01:24:02.470
whether you're dealing
with a hurricane, wildfire
01:24:02.470 --> 01:24:05.360
or earthquake or a
pandemic for that matter.
01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:10.050
So, thank you so much
to the Safety Division
01:24:10.050 --> 01:24:14.610
keeping us nimble in continuing
to update these processes
01:24:14.610 --> 01:24:18.480
and communication and
coordination is so key.
01:24:18.480 --> 01:24:22.000
The people, the people effort on this,
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.160
as well as all of the technical aspects.
01:24:24.160 --> 01:24:27.490
Thank you, I'll be
supporting the resolutions.
01:24:27.490 --> 01:24:29.140
Thank you Commissioner Shiroma.
01:24:39.444 --> 01:24:41.463
President
Batjer, are you muted?
01:24:42.570 --> 01:24:43.620
Yes, I was (laugh).
01:24:44.820 --> 01:24:46.400
Thank you for noting.
01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:50.960
Okay, I wanted to personally
add my special thanks
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.360
to the Wildfire Safety
Division, specifically
01:24:54.360 --> 01:24:57.640
Director Caroline Thomas
Jacobs, Melissa Semcer
01:24:57.640 --> 01:25:01.610
Ryan Arba, Koko
Tomassian, Arthur O'Donnell
01:25:01.610 --> 01:25:04.160
and Lola Odunlami
01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:07.320
for their tireless efforts in preparing
01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:11.890
for the 2021 Alpha
Mitigation plan review process.
01:25:11.890 --> 01:25:14.720
It is amazing to me how quickly Caroline
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.660
has assembled her highly functional team
01:25:17.660 --> 01:25:20.043
especially during
these really trying times.
01:25:21.030 --> 01:25:24.697
She has done all of this
work in one short year (laugh),
01:25:25.670 --> 01:25:29.290
and it's the COVID shutdown.
01:25:29.290 --> 01:25:31.700
The CPEC safety initiatives are evolving
01:25:31.700 --> 01:25:34.100
and maturing with this resolution.
01:25:34.100 --> 01:25:37.470
The CPC we embarked
on the third iteration
01:25:37.470 --> 01:25:40.400
of the utility Wildfire
Mitigation planning process.
01:25:40.400 --> 01:25:44.083
The process is working
public safety power shutoffs,
01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:48.653
also reducing in scope and,
01:25:50.020 --> 01:25:55.020
in duration and improving
markedly, the communications
01:25:55.080 --> 01:25:59.130
and coordination throughout
their service territories.
01:25:59.130 --> 01:26:01.900
This resolution shows
we're making great strides
01:26:01.900 --> 01:26:04.140
in the fine tuning of the process
01:26:04.140 --> 01:26:06.380
through the metrics
has been well discussed
01:26:06.380 --> 01:26:09.700
by Christopher and
Melissa, the maturity model
01:26:09.700 --> 01:26:12.640
and new year new, for this year
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:15.283
the evaluation of the
utility safety culture.
01:26:16.150 --> 01:26:18.630
So for everyone involved
with the development
01:26:18.630 --> 01:26:21.440
of this impressive
resolution and process.
01:26:21.440 --> 01:26:23.700
Thank you, thank you and thank you.
01:26:23.700 --> 01:26:27.793
And I will, of course be
supporting item number 36.
01:26:30.360 --> 01:26:31.593
Any other comments?
01:26:33.300 --> 01:26:35.510
Okay, seeing none,
we'll the agenda clerk
01:26:35.510 --> 01:26:37.910
please call the roll for item number 36
01:26:39.450 --> 01:26:41.550
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:26:41.550 --> 01:26:43.080
Aye.
01:26:43.080 --> 01:26:45.460
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:26:45.460 --> 01:26:46.293
Aye.
01:26:47.200 --> 01:26:49.370
Commissioner Randolph.
01:26:49.370 --> 01:26:50.203
Yes.
01:26:51.190 --> 01:26:53.150
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:26:53.150 --> 01:26:53.983
yes.
01:26:55.064 --> 01:26:55.897
President Batjer.
01:26:56.780 --> 01:27:01.780
Yes, item number 36
passes unanimously.
01:27:02.130 --> 01:27:05.530
Moving now to we vote on item 37,
01:27:05.530 --> 01:27:08.243
that was presented by Christopher.
01:27:10.700 --> 01:27:15.063
Are there any comments, our
thoughts on item number 37?
01:27:19.400 --> 01:27:22.254
Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:27:22.254 --> 01:27:24.353
I have a very brief comment.
01:27:24.353 --> 01:27:26.637
I think this resolution
01:27:26.637 --> 01:27:30.730
and the procedures that
the Wildfire Safety Division
01:27:30.730 --> 01:27:33.500
has identified are very, very important.
01:27:33.500 --> 01:27:37.280
We've been increasingly
focused here at the Commission
01:27:37.280 --> 01:27:41.730
on enforcement and how
important strong enforcement is
01:27:41.730 --> 01:27:45.210
to making sure we achieve
our safety consumer protection
01:27:45.210 --> 01:27:47.110
and other goals.
01:27:47.110 --> 01:27:49.560
We heard Christopher
say the goal ultimate goal
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:53.330
here is driving
reduction in wildfire risk.
01:27:53.330 --> 01:27:56.140
And it's very important
that we get the compliance
01:27:56.140 --> 01:27:58.640
and enforcement
process right to make sure
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:00.283
we achieve that goal.
01:28:01.140 --> 01:28:05.640
This process is a very
good start on doing that.
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.680
And what I especially appreciate is that
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.210
it is extremely clear
01:28:11.210 --> 01:28:13.620
what we expect from the utilities,
01:28:13.620 --> 01:28:15.997
what they need to do
in order to implement
01:28:15.997 --> 01:28:18.060
the Wildfire Mitigation Plans.
01:28:18.060 --> 01:28:21.740
It's very explicitly spelled out.
01:28:21.740 --> 01:28:23.310
This is what we expect.
01:28:23.310 --> 01:28:25.120
And as Christopher noted,
01:28:25.120 --> 01:28:27.980
we ultimately wanna
make them accountable
01:28:27.980 --> 01:28:31.750
for all their efforts to drive
reductions in wildfire risk.
01:28:31.750 --> 01:28:34.060
I also appreciate that
we're coordinating,
01:28:34.060 --> 01:28:35.330
that the divisions coordinating
01:28:35.330 --> 01:28:37.940
with the safety enforcement
division throughout.
01:28:37.940 --> 01:28:39.990
So I'm strongly supportive of this.
01:28:39.990 --> 01:28:43.083
I'll be following this work
very closely going forward.
01:28:45.200 --> 01:28:46.980
Thank you Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
01:28:46.980 --> 01:28:50.300
Yes Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:28:50.300 --> 01:28:53.240
Yes, I also wanna
thank Melissa and Chris
01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:56.650
for this particular enhancement
01:28:56.650 --> 01:28:59.720
and focus on risk prioritization
01:29:01.276 --> 01:29:03.510
and compliance timelines.
01:29:03.510 --> 01:29:07.940
I think it's our own,
speaking our own kind of
01:29:07.940 --> 01:29:09.940
risk analysis in our own work
01:29:09.940 --> 01:29:12.820
and where we're gonna
be monitoring compliance.
01:29:12.820 --> 01:29:16.470
I was wondering if we have learned
01:29:16.470 --> 01:29:21.310
Chris you talked about 152 defects,
01:29:21.310 --> 01:29:23.840
52, haven been resolved,
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.113
there's still 102 unresolved,
01:29:28.530 --> 01:29:31.120
have you guys been thinking through
01:29:33.130 --> 01:29:37.820
potentially additional compliance
mechanisms that might help
01:29:37.820 --> 01:29:40.703
with the timeliness such
as a citation program?
01:29:41.986 --> 01:29:42.943
I can't recall.
01:29:46.020 --> 01:29:48.610
Yes,
we've been looking at,
01:29:48.610 --> 01:29:52.940
both going from just a notice of defect
01:29:52.940 --> 01:29:55.440
or what we basically
have inspection reports
01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:58.550
where we identify
the issue with utilities
01:29:58.550 --> 01:30:00.550
and then we have non-compliances
01:30:00.550 --> 01:30:05.340
if they are not resolving
those issues expeditiously.
01:30:05.340 --> 01:30:07.960
And then also we work
in parallel with SED,
01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:10.540
if an issue is either chronic or serious
01:30:11.420 --> 01:30:14.097
to work with SED to
see if they want to go
01:30:14.097 --> 01:30:17.823
for an enforcement action,
through their existing process.
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.350
One of the things that
we have to be cautious of
01:30:22.350 --> 01:30:24.050
is we do not want to
01:30:25.770 --> 01:30:29.040
divert work away from high fire risk,
01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:34.270
high priority issues, to
deal with minor defects.
01:30:34.270 --> 01:30:36.990
So a lot of these open
defects are fairly minor
01:30:36.990 --> 01:30:39.317
and will be addressed
in the normal course.
01:30:39.317 --> 01:30:43.090
And some of them under
the existing process have,
01:30:43.090 --> 01:30:45.300
over a year to resolve them.
01:30:45.300 --> 01:30:48.320
So we're trying to be cognizant of
01:30:48.320 --> 01:30:50.030
making sure we don't divert them.
01:30:50.030 --> 01:30:52.330
We don't cause additional
cost to rate payers
01:30:52.330 --> 01:30:56.930
by moving crews around unnecessarily.
01:30:56.930 --> 01:30:59.320
But we also, at the same time
01:30:59.320 --> 01:31:01.820
require that the utilities
are very clear with us,
01:31:01.820 --> 01:31:06.820
what their plan is, to resolve
these outstanding issues,
01:31:07.080 --> 01:31:09.890
hopefully in a more
expeditious timeframe then
01:31:10.810 --> 01:31:12.433
under Roy team.
01:31:16.710 --> 01:31:17.543
Thank you.
01:31:19.320 --> 01:31:23.133
Would anybody else like
to comment on item 37?
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:29.520
I would also just like to add
my thanks, press two, to you
01:31:30.290 --> 01:31:32.620
and all of the hard work that your,
01:31:32.620 --> 01:31:35.600
the team has put together
to bring this forward.
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.970
And I do wanna echo, what
Commissioner Rechtschaffen said
01:31:39.970 --> 01:31:43.270
that we need to work
internally to create
01:31:43.270 --> 01:31:46.130
a robust enforcement regime.
01:31:46.130 --> 01:31:49.970
So I look forward to continuing
to engage on this matter
01:31:49.970 --> 01:31:54.360
with this matter so that
the CPEC does its part
01:31:54.360 --> 01:31:56.810
to protect all Californias.
01:31:56.810 --> 01:31:58.023
Thank you so much.
01:31:59.010 --> 01:32:04.190
And I think we can, I
see no other comments
01:32:05.278 --> 01:32:07.340
will the agenda clerk
please call the roll
01:32:07.340 --> 01:32:09.343
on item number 37.
01:32:10.400 --> 01:32:11.950
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:15.310
Aye.
01:32:15.310 --> 01:32:17.700
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:32:17.700 --> 01:32:19.020
Aye.
01:32:19.020 --> 01:32:20.483
Commissioner Randolph.
01:32:21.420 --> 01:32:22.253
Yes.
01:32:23.120 --> 01:32:25.180
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:32:25.180 --> 01:32:26.802
Yes.
01:32:26.802 --> 01:32:28.390
President Batjer.
01:32:28.390 --> 01:32:33.240
Yes, item 37 has
passed unanimously.
01:32:33.240 --> 01:32:34.073
Thank you.
01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.880
Item 38 has been
01:32:41.260 --> 01:32:45.320
held till the December 3rd meeting.
01:32:45.320 --> 01:32:49.450
So we will not be taking up items 38.
01:32:49.450 --> 01:32:54.450
Moving now on to item 39 and item 39A,
01:32:57.070 --> 01:32:59.060
these will be presented together
01:33:00.200 --> 01:33:03.600
and we will take up a vote
01:33:04.750 --> 01:33:09.750
on first on item 39A
after the presentation.
01:33:10.420 --> 01:33:11.893
So Commissioner Randolph.
01:33:13.990 --> 01:33:15.490
Thank you, President Batjer,
01:33:16.350 --> 01:33:20.930
this proposed decision and
alternate involve a crossing
01:33:20.930 --> 01:33:22.243
at the city of Ione.
01:33:23.510 --> 01:33:26.080
This proceeding is
separated into two phases.
01:33:26.080 --> 01:33:29.350
Phase one deals with
the safety of the crossing
01:33:29.350 --> 01:33:31.090
and the proposed decision
01:33:31.090 --> 01:33:34.100
and the alternate both address that.
01:33:34.100 --> 01:33:39.060
Phase two, will handle the
appropriate penalty if any,
01:33:39.060 --> 01:33:42.750
for building the crossing
before receiving authorization
01:33:42.750 --> 01:33:45.210
and potentially for a rule one violation
01:33:45.210 --> 01:33:46.543
on the part of the city.
01:33:47.610 --> 01:33:50.130
So by way of background,
01:33:50.130 --> 01:33:54.630
the rail tracks here no
longer serve an active railroad.
01:33:54.630 --> 01:33:58.550
The tracks current use is by speeders.
01:33:58.550 --> 01:34:01.840
And the name of speeders
is a bit of a misnomer
01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:06.230
because they operated
about 15 to 20 miles an hour.
01:34:06.230 --> 01:34:09.640
The reason they're called
speeders is that they are faster
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:13.010
than the human powered
hand cars that they replaced.
01:34:13.010 --> 01:34:15.720
So not sure whether
speeders or putt putts
01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:19.133
are the better name for
these particular vehicles.
01:34:20.180 --> 01:34:22.570
The TD in the alternate are very similar
01:34:22.570 --> 01:34:25.590
in the evaluation of the
safety of the crossing.
01:34:25.590 --> 01:34:28.550
Both find that the crossing
will be safe with the safe
01:34:28.550 --> 01:34:31.400
with the installation of crossing Gates
01:34:31.400 --> 01:34:35.660
and both require notification
if rail services resumed
01:34:35.660 --> 01:34:37.710
and both require rail safety division
01:34:37.710 --> 01:34:39.890
to inspect and report on the crossing
01:34:39.890 --> 01:34:42.250
once the Gates are installed.
01:34:42.250 --> 01:34:43.990
The key difference between the PD
01:34:43.990 --> 01:34:47.810
and the alternate is the
issue of a second access road
01:34:47.810 --> 01:34:50.423
to the housing development
that uses the crossing.
01:34:51.660 --> 01:34:54.790
The proposed decision
would use the question of
01:34:54.790 --> 01:34:58.840
whether a second
access road is as a factor
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.620
in the amount of a
potential penalty related
01:35:02.620 --> 01:35:06.533
to the city's building of the
crossing before approval.
01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:10.630
As the rail safety
division correctly observed
01:35:10.630 --> 01:35:13.280
the level of traffic that goes in
01:35:13.280 --> 01:35:17.723
out of this crossing is within
this Commission's purview.
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:22.820
However, the issue is whether the level
01:35:22.820 --> 01:35:24.860
of traffic should be used to determine
01:35:24.860 --> 01:35:28.500
whether the crossing itself is safe.
01:35:28.500 --> 01:35:32.610
I do not believe it is
appropriate to factor in
01:35:32.610 --> 01:35:37.610
land use decisions
related to configuration of
01:35:39.128 --> 01:35:43.700
the housing development and
the city's road infrastructure.
01:35:45.180 --> 01:35:49.380
As part of the question of
determining the level of penalty
01:35:49.380 --> 01:35:52.940
for building the crossing
without authorization.
01:35:52.940 --> 01:35:56.240
Those violations are not
keyword by changes made outside
01:35:56.240 --> 01:36:00.100
of the crossing and the
penalty should not be increased
01:36:00.100 --> 01:36:02.290
for land use decisions.
01:36:02.290 --> 01:36:05.790
The city makes that are not
related to the crossing itself
01:36:05.790 --> 01:36:07.990
and are physically
not part of the crossing.
01:36:08.900 --> 01:36:12.970
Therefore, I find that the
proposed decision inappropriately
01:36:12.970 --> 01:36:15.580
uses a second access road as a factor
01:36:15.580 --> 01:36:17.500
in the setting of a penalty.
01:36:17.500 --> 01:36:20.513
And I removed that as
a factor in my alternate,
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:25.240
but as I mentioned before,
the physical construction
01:36:25.240 --> 01:36:28.850
of the crossing and the
requirements for that crossing
01:36:28.850 --> 01:36:31.940
and the requirement
to consider a penalty
01:36:31.940 --> 01:36:34.300
for the city's actions in this case
01:36:34.300 --> 01:36:36.423
remain the same in both decisions.
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:39.810
So I would like to make a motion for,
01:36:39.810 --> 01:36:45.250
to move my alternate item 39 A
01:36:45.250 --> 01:36:49.813
and happy to answer any
questions or entertain any comments.
01:36:51.930 --> 01:36:53.617
Are there any.
I Second.
01:36:55.660 --> 01:36:57.900
The motion has been seconded
01:36:57.900 --> 01:37:00.725
and I think Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:37:00.725 --> 01:37:02.325
I think I saw your hand come up.
01:37:03.770 --> 01:37:05.470
Well, it is
appropriate to comment
01:37:05.470 --> 01:37:07.467
before we vote President Batjer?
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:09.353
Yes.
01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:15.270
Well, I support Commissioner
Randolph's alternate.
01:37:15.270 --> 01:37:18.820
I think the question of
what inappropriate penalty is
01:37:18.820 --> 01:37:21.620
should be left to the
penalty phase of the decision
01:37:21.620 --> 01:37:23.400
that's the bottom line
01:37:23.400 --> 01:37:26.910
and we should not be
attempting to do it now
01:37:26.910 --> 01:37:28.780
it's not appropriate now.
01:37:28.780 --> 01:37:30.650
This doesn't in any
way diminish our concern
01:37:30.650 --> 01:37:32.710
for public safety, but it just
01:37:32.710 --> 01:37:36.530
sets up an orderly process
where we first approve the action
01:37:36.530 --> 01:37:37.630
and consider the penalty
01:37:37.630 --> 01:37:39.830
in a potential rule, one
violation separately.
01:37:39.830 --> 01:37:40.670
So for that reason
01:37:40.670 --> 01:37:43.887
I'll be supporting Commissioner
Randolph's alternate.
01:37:45.590 --> 01:37:46.910
Thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
01:37:46.910 --> 01:37:51.217
any other comments on the item 39A.
01:37:58.330 --> 01:38:01.083
Okay seems, yes, Commissioner Shiroma.
01:38:02.040 --> 01:38:03.013
Thank you.
01:38:03.013 --> 01:38:06.380
I just say that I'm supporting
Commissioner Randolph's
01:38:06.380 --> 01:38:09.560
alternate proposed decision.
01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:14.160
I appreciate ALJ
Ferguson's proposed decision
01:38:14.160 --> 01:38:17.510
but the alternate is more
in line with my thinking
01:38:17.510 --> 01:38:20.790
city of Ione does need
to be held accountable
01:38:20.790 --> 01:38:22.250
for constructing a rail crossing
01:38:22.250 --> 01:38:24.040
without Commission approval.
01:38:24.040 --> 01:38:26.370
And I'll look forward to
phase two of the proceedings.
01:38:26.370 --> 01:38:27.203
Thanks.
01:38:28.410 --> 01:38:31.380
I agree with both the
comments made by.
01:38:31.380 --> 01:38:33.080
I don't need to repeat them made by
01:38:33.080 --> 01:38:35.880
Commissioner Rechtschaffen as well as
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:38.163
those just made by Commissioner Shiroma.
01:38:39.100 --> 01:38:40.093
Anything else?
01:38:41.480 --> 01:38:45.573
Okay, we're going to
take up items 39A first.
01:38:48.110 --> 01:38:52.850
That is the alternative
proposed decision.
01:38:52.850 --> 01:38:56.893
Will the agenda clerk please
call the roll on item 39A.
01:38:57.830 --> 01:39:00.070
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:39:00.070 --> 01:39:01.570
Aye.
01:39:01.570 --> 01:39:04.237
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:39:04.237 --> 01:39:05.810
Aye.
01:39:05.810 --> 01:39:07.970
Commissioner Randolph.
01:39:07.970 --> 01:39:08.803
Yes.
01:39:09.830 --> 01:39:12.080
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
01:39:12.080 --> 01:39:13.620
Yes.
01:39:13.620 --> 01:39:15.600
President Batjer.
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:17.080
Yes.
01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:19.803
Item 39A passes unanimously.
01:39:21.150 --> 01:39:23.280
Ann I'm going to ask you a question.
01:39:23.280 --> 01:39:25.940
I don't believe we
now need to take up 39
01:39:25.940 --> 01:39:29.453
since we have voted on the
alternative, is that correct?
01:39:30.420 --> 01:39:32.770
That is correct
President Batjer.
01:39:32.770 --> 01:39:34.540
Okay, thank you.
01:39:34.540 --> 01:39:38.000
Okay, moving on now to item 40
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.020
and that is Commissioner
Shiroma's to present.
01:39:46.240 --> 01:39:48.230
Thank you President Batjer.
01:39:48.230 --> 01:39:53.160
Item 40 is a proposed
decision that ushers in
01:39:53.160 --> 01:39:56.490
an important milestone for
the Commission's regulation
01:39:56.490 --> 01:40:01.220
of passenger service,
to the public in California
01:40:01.220 --> 01:40:03.260
by authorizing it deployment framework
01:40:04.360 --> 01:40:06.130
and advancement of deployment framework
01:40:06.130 --> 01:40:08.013
for autonomous vehicles.
01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.570
Right on background
our previous decision
01:40:12.500 --> 01:40:16.170
1805-043
01:40:16.170 --> 01:40:19.460
presented in 2018 on
autonomous vehicles.
01:40:19.460 --> 01:40:23.710
It set out the initial framework
with two pilot programs
01:40:23.710 --> 01:40:27.400
per passenger service, one for a driver,
01:40:27.400 --> 01:40:29.880
with a driver or a
technician in the vehicle.
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:33.510
And one for driverless,
without a driver in the vehicle.
01:40:33.510 --> 01:40:35.660
And with a remote operator.
01:40:35.660 --> 01:40:38.390
A permits for entity to participate
01:40:38.390 --> 01:40:41.960
in the pilot programs were
only issued after entities
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.830
with the state permits
from our Sister Agency,
01:40:44.830 --> 01:40:47.160
the department of motor vehicles
01:40:47.160 --> 01:40:51.560
who is responsible for
the vehicle safety itself.
01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:55.330
We co-hosted with the
Department of Motor vehicles
01:40:55.330 --> 01:40:58.100
and all parties workshop
on October 22nd, 2019.
01:40:58.100 --> 01:41:01.370
And that was a year
ago, to discuss the state
01:41:01.370 --> 01:41:03.240
of these pilot programs.
01:41:03.240 --> 01:41:05.000
And we received input from
01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:06.970
autonomous vehicle service providers,
01:41:06.970 --> 01:41:10.270
trade groups safety and
accessibility, advocacy groups
01:41:10.270 --> 01:41:12.350
and public agencies.
01:41:12.350 --> 01:41:16.450
We found it essential to
collect several more quarters
01:41:16.450 --> 01:41:18.930
of data through the pilot program.
01:41:18.930 --> 01:41:21.750
And we were eager to start
the public dialogue on the future
01:41:21.750 --> 01:41:24.510
of framework for autonomous
vehicle deployment.
01:41:24.510 --> 01:41:27.740
And you might imagine it is a big deal
01:41:27.740 --> 01:41:32.627
to be entering the
autonomous vehicle framework.
01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.420
We issued an Administrative
Law Judge ruling
01:41:38.420 --> 01:41:42.350
on December, 19,
2019 fall in network shop
01:41:42.350 --> 01:41:45.830
requesting parties
responses to the questions
01:41:45.830 --> 01:41:49.060
regarding the frameworks
for our collection goals,
01:41:49.060 --> 01:41:52.720
for the program passenger safety
01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:56.190
among other related questions.
01:41:56.190 --> 01:41:59.170
We received responses
in the form of opening
01:41:59.170 --> 01:42:03.630
and reply comments, from
the diverse set of stakeholders.
01:42:03.630 --> 01:42:07.326
Based on all of these comments
and our continued collection
01:42:07.326 --> 01:42:11.070
and analysis from the
pilot program participants.
01:42:11.070 --> 01:42:15.810
We have authored this decision
to deploy autonomous vehicles
01:42:15.810 --> 01:42:19.460
by authorizing fair collections
01:42:19.460 --> 01:42:23.360
and requiring entities entering
the deployment program
01:42:23.360 --> 01:42:30.440
to submit an eight point
passenger safety plan,
01:42:30.440 --> 01:42:33.780
the details, how they will
protect passengers safety
01:42:33.780 --> 01:42:36.170
for autonomous vehicle operations.
01:42:36.170 --> 01:42:40.750
Again, we're talking about
both driver and driver less.
01:42:40.750 --> 01:42:43.550
We have had more data on the drivers
01:42:44.390 --> 01:42:49.390
and all in all we are
providing with this proposal
01:42:49.780 --> 01:42:51.750
for the ability to collect fares.
01:42:51.750 --> 01:42:55.240
We're also establishing
goals for entities to
01:42:55.240 --> 01:42:59.080
expand the benefits of the
alternative vehicle technologies
01:42:59.080 --> 01:43:01.760
to all of California's communities
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:04.720
while reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:09.720
And we will collect 55 data
points to monitor his progress
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.110
towards each of these goals.
01:43:13.110 --> 01:43:15.390
The PD is built on the comments received
01:43:15.390 --> 01:43:18.520
on the proceeding and the
results of our pilot programs
01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:21.220
which includes seven quarters of data
01:43:21.220 --> 01:43:25.970
reflecting over 600,000
autonomous miles driven.
01:43:25.970 --> 01:43:29.940
By the way, I had a
chance pre pandemic to
01:43:31.050 --> 01:43:36.043
experience two different
autonomous vehicle experiences.
01:43:38.208 --> 01:43:42.400
And that was a good experience.
01:43:42.400 --> 01:43:44.850
Quarterly reports
from our pilot programs
01:43:44.850 --> 01:43:49.410
are also publicly
available on our website.
01:43:49.410 --> 01:43:52.730
So first in the expansion
of our proposal,
01:43:52.730 --> 01:43:57.700
of the program to create the next phase
01:43:57.700 --> 01:44:01.850
of the two programs we are
01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:05.920
proposing to allow again
the charging of fares,
01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:08.360
and that will allow the companies to
01:44:08.360 --> 01:44:13.360
determine what does the customer, want,
01:44:14.040 --> 01:44:15.050
willing to pay
01:44:15.990 --> 01:44:19.030
in terms of using this
kind of passenger service.
01:44:19.030 --> 01:44:21.590
That will be very important information.
01:44:21.590 --> 01:44:24.008
To be eligible for deployment,
01:44:24.008 --> 01:44:26.410
an applicant must possess that permit
01:44:26.410 --> 01:44:29.190
to deploy autonomous
vehicles on public streets
01:44:29.190 --> 01:44:31.020
from the department of motor vehicles
01:44:31.020 --> 01:44:35.090
and in doing so an applicant
will have to have satisfied
01:44:35.090 --> 01:44:38.270
that agency's requirements
related to the initial,
01:44:38.270 --> 01:44:41.900
the safety of the vehicle and
the automated driving system,
01:44:41.900 --> 01:44:44.320
is a very sophisticated system.
01:44:44.320 --> 01:44:46.130
The DMV only issues these permits
01:44:46.130 --> 01:44:48.750
after applicants have
demonstrated compliance
01:44:48.750 --> 01:44:51.890
with all provisions of the
California vehicle code
01:44:51.890 --> 01:44:53.390
and local regulations
01:44:53.390 --> 01:44:57.270
and have conducted vigorous
tests to establish the safety
01:44:57.270 --> 01:45:01.210
of the applicant vehicles
on public roads in California.
01:45:01.210 --> 01:45:05.270
As we shift from the
our initial pilot programs
01:45:05.270 --> 01:45:07.790
and have provided
passengers with opportunity
01:45:07.790 --> 01:45:10.340
to provide feedback on
their riding experience
01:45:10.340 --> 01:45:11.860
and a free program.
01:45:11.860 --> 01:45:15.460
The new AV program
is as an inflection point
01:45:15.460 --> 01:45:20.300
as I indicated to now
go to a fared service
01:45:20.300 --> 01:45:23.470
and that we feel is
inappropriate next step
01:45:23.470 --> 01:45:24.870
and important next step.
01:45:24.870 --> 01:45:27.270
Now, in addition to fare collection
01:45:27.270 --> 01:45:31.790
the proposed decision
also authorize a shared ride
01:45:31.790 --> 01:45:36.790
for driverless deployment
programs, shared rides.
01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:39.420
Applicants in this
driverless deploy program,
01:45:39.420 --> 01:45:42.180
must include a passenger safety plan
01:45:42.180 --> 01:45:44.990
that among other things
describes the technologies,
01:45:44.990 --> 01:45:47.949
procedures, protocols, and redundancies
01:45:47.949 --> 01:45:51.160
that the applicant will
implement to minimize,
01:45:51.160 --> 01:45:54.930
to really provide for it safe
01:45:56.748 --> 01:46:01.090
and a good experience
for passengers traveling
01:46:01.090 --> 01:46:03.970
in a shared driverless ride.
01:46:03.970 --> 01:46:06.300
The plans will include an explanation
01:46:06.300 --> 01:46:08.940
of how the applicant will
implement measures to prevent
01:46:08.940 --> 01:46:13.470
or respond to incidences
of assault and harassment.
01:46:13.470 --> 01:46:15.850
The passenger safety
plan will also be subject
01:46:15.850 --> 01:46:19.030
to public review and input
to ensure transparency
01:46:19.970 --> 01:46:23.620
and to leveraging the
diverse perspective of access
01:46:23.620 --> 01:46:25.600
and functional needs communities
01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:27.870
and local transit authorities.
01:46:27.870 --> 01:46:31.960
Many of the envision benefits
of autonomous vehicles,
01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:35.300
more transportation options
hopefully at lower costs,
01:46:35.300 --> 01:46:38.570
less congestion, smaller
environmental footprint,
01:46:38.570 --> 01:46:42.030
may be closely tied to the
availability of shared rides.
01:46:42.030 --> 01:46:46.340
And we would need collect
data to analyze the progress
01:46:46.340 --> 01:46:49.100
for these goals in the same way,
01:46:49.100 --> 01:46:53.810
the success of shared
driverless rides is inextricably tied
01:46:53.810 --> 01:46:57.430
to the assurance of a
safe interaction of its users,
01:46:57.430 --> 01:46:59.640
which must be provided in the design
01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.033
and operation of the
vehicle on the program.
01:47:03.380 --> 01:47:07.360
Yes, in terms of to dive deeper
01:47:07.360 --> 01:47:09.680
into the passenger safety plan
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:13.610
the applicants for driverless
service must submit
01:47:13.610 --> 01:47:15.900
in order to receive Commission approval
01:47:15.900 --> 01:47:19.050
of this plan will require
applications applied
01:47:20.270 --> 01:47:23.160
implement of criteria
to minimize it's risks
01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:26.020
in for driverless vehicles.
01:47:26.020 --> 01:47:28.910
The passenger safety plan is
01:47:28.910 --> 01:47:32.290
on the one hand technology
technology agnostic
01:47:32.290 --> 01:47:35.840
in order to provide for
innovation in this competitive
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:37.510
and emerging industry.
01:47:37.510 --> 01:47:41.420
But the passenger
safety plan must provide
01:47:41.420 --> 01:47:44.860
information on how
applicant's intent again,
01:47:44.860 --> 01:47:47.580
to minimize safety risks, to passengers
01:47:48.510 --> 01:47:53.213
with all the same attributes
that I described previously.
01:47:54.120 --> 01:47:59.120
And this plan must apply
equally to all passengers
01:47:59.180 --> 01:48:01.710
including those with limited mobility,
01:48:01.710 --> 01:48:04.403
vision impairments, other disabilities.
01:48:07.240 --> 01:48:09.453
This includes,
01:48:12.400 --> 01:48:15.070
the proposal include
01:48:15.070 --> 01:48:20.000
many details on what is to
be included in these plans
01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.480
and the data to be collected.
01:48:23.480 --> 01:48:27.280
And as I say, there needs to be
01:48:29.250 --> 01:48:32.700
equal options provided for
those with limited mobility.
01:48:32.700 --> 01:48:34.750
visual impairment of the disabilities.
01:48:34.750 --> 01:48:37.370
The passenger safety
plan was also include
01:48:37.370 --> 01:48:40.630
the anticipated response
time for when a passenger
01:48:40.630 --> 01:48:44.920
request to contact the
Autonomous Vehicle Company.
01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:48.360
Also, we are in the midst
of the ongoing pandemic.
01:48:48.360 --> 01:48:53.360
The plan must include the
COVID-19 emergency plan consistent
01:48:53.610 --> 01:48:55.860
with our apartments that we've imposed
01:48:55.860 --> 01:48:58.920
on a charter party carriers
01:48:58.920 --> 01:49:01.340
permit holders of
our previously, I'd not
01:49:01.340 --> 01:49:04.980
to a Commission of solutions
which require compliance
01:49:04.980 --> 01:49:08.580
with our California Department
of Public health requirements
01:49:08.580 --> 01:49:11.950
and also the
01:49:12.900 --> 01:49:15.390
Center For Disease Control guidelines
01:49:15.390 --> 01:49:18.950
for preventing the
transmission of COVID,
01:49:18.950 --> 01:49:22.160
plus any revisions that either
the California department
01:49:22.160 --> 01:49:23.880
of public health or CDC
01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:25.923
are providing on a real-time basis.
01:49:26.830 --> 01:49:28.990
Also to provide for transparency allowed
01:49:28.990 --> 01:49:33.710
for a public review process
of the AV participation.
01:49:33.710 --> 01:49:37.210
The decision does require that
01:49:37.210 --> 01:49:41.100
any applicants seeking
to participate must apply
01:49:41.100 --> 01:49:45.480
through our tier three
advice letter process.
01:49:45.480 --> 01:49:46.960
And that's in accordance
01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:51.960
with our general order
GO96B, GO96B outlines.
01:49:52.470 --> 01:49:56.680
Alongside the approach or
Commission regulated entities to
01:49:58.468 --> 01:50:02.310
for approval for deployment.
01:50:04.540 --> 01:50:08.360
It does require the application process,
01:50:08.360 --> 01:50:10.350
opportunity for public comments
01:50:10.350 --> 01:50:14.160
and then formal approvals
through a Commission resolution.
01:50:14.160 --> 01:50:17.750
And that means a
vote of this Commission.
01:50:17.750 --> 01:50:22.120
This process sets clear
expectations for applicants
01:50:22.120 --> 01:50:23.510
providing for that transparency
01:50:23.510 --> 01:50:28.190
for providing for a robust
analysis, because we are still
01:50:28.190 --> 01:50:32.810
at a nascent level with
autonomous vehicles
01:50:32.810 --> 01:50:37.250
even as we are providing for the
01:50:37.250 --> 01:50:39.850
next very important phase.
01:50:39.850 --> 01:50:43.270
It is still an emerging
and evolving industry.
01:50:43.270 --> 01:50:47.480
And we wanna make
sure that we are providing
01:50:47.480 --> 01:50:50.683
for a robust assessment.
01:50:52.140 --> 01:50:54.970
Lastly, this PD
01:50:55.990 --> 01:50:59.030
establishes goals as guiding
principles that will help us
01:50:59.030 --> 01:51:03.440
monitor the maturity of this industry.
01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:06.480
An opportunity to pretty
radically revise our goals
01:51:06.480 --> 01:51:10.640
if needed, establishment
of potential targets
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:12.773
as the industry becomes more mature,
01:51:15.803 --> 01:51:20.240
we'll also establish so
data collection processes
01:51:20.240 --> 01:51:22.170
that will monitor the industry
01:51:23.170 --> 01:51:26.980
more specifically
proposing to that we adopt
01:51:28.730 --> 01:51:31.480
equity goals to improve
transportation options
01:51:31.480 --> 01:51:33.950
for all, particularly for disadvantaged
01:51:33.950 --> 01:51:36.230
to all our communities,
01:51:36.230 --> 01:51:38.815
adopt the goal to reduce
greenhouse gas, emissions,
01:51:38.815 --> 01:51:41.770
(indistinct) and toxic air contaminants,
01:51:41.770 --> 01:51:44.660
particularly in
disadvantaged communities.
01:51:44.660 --> 01:51:48.980
Also expanding to assure
that we are expanding benefits
01:51:48.980 --> 01:51:53.683
to all including persons
who with wheelChair access,
01:51:54.590 --> 01:51:58.320
those who are visually impaired
and those without access
01:51:58.320 --> 01:52:02.400
to the internet and smart phones,
01:52:02.400 --> 01:52:05.257
we are incorporating
the goal of (indistinct).
01:52:07.270 --> 01:52:09.500
The efforts in the
passenger safety class
01:52:09.500 --> 01:52:12.690
I mentioned earlier and
all of that will be submitted
01:52:12.690 --> 01:52:17.323
along with applications
for any AV deployments.
01:52:18.794 --> 01:52:22.840
We plan to hold a subsequent workshops
01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:27.840
within the year of
(indistinct) collect information
01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:31.430
to evaluate the status
of this passenger service
01:52:32.410 --> 01:52:37.410
and to determine what
additional data needs there are.
01:52:38.350 --> 01:52:42.960
We will be requiring coordinate reports
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:46.820
on vehicle miles traveled,
vehicle trip location
01:52:46.820 --> 01:52:51.130
delineated by census track zip
code data on passenger safety
01:52:51.130 --> 01:52:53.323
including any incidences of complaints.
01:52:57.661 --> 01:52:58.867
The CPC staff maybe
providing a templates
01:53:02.490 --> 01:53:05.940
on complaint on,
providing those complaints
01:53:05.940 --> 01:53:08.365
which we are looking at broadly.
01:53:08.365 --> 01:53:10.990
And also data on
electric vehicle charging,
01:53:10.990 --> 01:53:13.950
data on disability services provided
01:53:13.950 --> 01:53:18.530
and engagement with
accessibly additives to improve
01:53:18.530 --> 01:53:21.120
the autonomous vehicle operations.
01:53:21.120 --> 01:53:23.070
With that, we can then
evaluate the quality
01:53:23.070 --> 01:53:25.910
and quantity of data submitted,
01:53:25.910 --> 01:53:27.800
make any critical adjustments
01:53:27.800 --> 01:53:30.640
to these pilots deployment programs.
01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:34.130
I do it hopefully in a timely
manner with public input
01:53:34.130 --> 01:53:36.773
and through our next
series of work shops.
01:53:38.890 --> 01:53:43.890
I do want to emphasize,
we have received comments
01:53:48.120 --> 01:53:51.130
on accessibility and what have you.
01:53:51.130 --> 01:53:55.210
We are requiring the data collection
01:53:55.210 --> 01:53:56.650
on wheelChair accessibility
01:53:56.650 --> 01:54:00.160
that we are requiring for the Chancey.
01:54:00.160 --> 01:54:05.160
And here we are requiring plans on
01:54:05.400 --> 01:54:09.093
expanding the the accessibility,
01:54:10.300 --> 01:54:12.650
we are requiring engagements.
01:54:12.650 --> 01:54:15.440
And from that we should
be able to determine
01:54:15.440 --> 01:54:17.600
what additional data
01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:23.653
metrics should we be
recording from this newish,
01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:26.513
I'm calling it nascent but,
01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:31.123
we see the autonomous
vehicles on the road now,
01:54:31.970 --> 01:54:35.450
in particular this
evening in San Francisco
01:54:35.450 --> 01:54:37.310
but that will help us
inform us for the future.
01:54:37.310 --> 01:54:39.840
So I'd like to conclude by thanking
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:41.680
the autonomous vehicle team
01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:45.200
on this effort to move
our programs forward.
01:54:45.200 --> 01:54:48.660
I'd like to thank administrative
law, Judge Robert Mason
01:54:48.660 --> 01:54:51.193
for spearheading
these important efforts.
01:54:52.130 --> 01:54:54.910
Our partners at the
department of motor vehicles
01:54:54.910 --> 01:54:57.160
and in particular our
consumer protection
01:54:57.160 --> 01:55:01.630
and enforcement division
staff that have worked tirelessly
01:55:01.630 --> 01:55:03.090
on this proposed decision,
01:55:03.090 --> 01:55:06.460
along with other things
that they are assigned to do.
01:55:06.460 --> 01:55:08.620
This includes Cody Naylor.
01:55:08.620 --> 01:55:11.737
Andrew Dugowson, Jeff Kasmar,
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.540
Doug Ito and Maryam Ebke
01:55:15.540 --> 01:55:17.610
and also our Energy Division staff
01:55:17.610 --> 01:55:22.060
Audrey Newman, and
Sarah Keenan gave input
01:55:22.060 --> 01:55:24.930
to ensure that our 80
program can collect data
01:55:24.930 --> 01:55:27.960
to support our transportation
electrification efforts.
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:31.363
And also our legal advisors Iryna Kwasny
01:55:32.237 --> 01:55:34.880
and (indistinct) and Theresa Buckley.
01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:38.250
And I'd like to acknowledge
my staff and key partner
01:55:38.250 --> 01:55:42.400
Commissioner Randolph
on your early leadership
01:55:42.400 --> 01:55:47.250
and authorizing the pilot
programs decision in 2018.
01:55:47.250 --> 01:55:50.360
And continue to provide
input as we entered this stage.
01:55:50.360 --> 01:55:55.360
Also as like to thank my
advisor could be your advisor
01:55:56.526 --> 01:55:58.500
Commissioner Randolph is the one
01:55:58.500 --> 01:56:02.767
who has been utterly
asleep all along the way.
01:56:02.767 --> 01:56:04.890
It was us on this, all the meetings
01:56:04.890 --> 01:56:08.310
all of the reviews and
my advisor, Trance Sheer
01:56:08.310 --> 01:56:10.507
along with my chief
of staff Terence Shia,
01:56:10.507 --> 01:56:13.270
for all the work on
this proposed decision.
01:56:13.270 --> 01:56:15.620
With that I was strictly asked
01:56:15.620 --> 01:56:18.310
you my fellow Commissioners
for your aye go to
01:56:18.310 --> 01:56:20.163
on supporting this issue, thank you.
01:56:23.580 --> 01:56:26.060
Yes, thank you
Commissioners Shiroma.
01:56:26.060 --> 01:56:28.110
Are there any comments or
01:56:29.240 --> 01:56:31.050
questions at this time on
01:56:35.270 --> 01:56:39.807
I lost my place on
item number 40 (laugh).
01:56:42.500 --> 01:56:45.247
Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
01:56:46.860 --> 01:56:48.310
Thank you.
01:56:48.310 --> 01:56:49.833
Thank you so much Commissioner Shiroma
01:56:49.833 --> 01:56:53.030
this is quite a comprehensive decision
01:56:53.030 --> 01:56:56.410
and really inclusive.
01:56:56.410 --> 01:56:59.270
And I thank you for responding to the
01:56:59.270 --> 01:57:01.529
feedback we obviously
heard in public comment
01:57:01.529 --> 01:57:03.830
and obviously through the process
01:57:03.830 --> 01:57:08.520
and the disability access
community in particular.
01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:11.840
And I do wanna acknowledge that all the
01:57:13.190 --> 01:57:15.230
measures that you've included in here,
01:57:15.230 --> 01:57:17.500
including the reporting
which I think will be
01:57:17.500 --> 01:57:19.800
very important to track.
01:57:19.800 --> 01:57:23.443
And I was hoping to offer
some friendly amendments.
01:57:24.788 --> 01:57:27.490
So I will ask you
Robert can put those up
01:57:27.490 --> 01:57:29.460
for us to consider.
01:57:29.460 --> 01:57:33.010
And I'll just say though
the one critical one
01:57:33.010 --> 01:57:36.340
that I felt was almost not in line
01:57:36.340 --> 01:57:39.420
with everything else in the
decision that is so inclusive
01:57:40.450 --> 01:57:42.147
is the last paragraph here.
01:57:42.147 --> 01:57:45.240
And I would request that you strike,
01:57:45.240 --> 01:57:48.390
I think the other
amendments are just not
01:57:48.390 --> 01:57:50.830
they're more clarifying,
but I acknowledged
01:57:50.830 --> 01:57:54.380
that the decision very much
captures the goal being that
01:57:55.630 --> 01:57:58.650
people with disabilities
have access to AV.
01:57:58.650 --> 01:58:03.650
And this particular paragraph has
01:58:06.520 --> 01:58:10.260
sets a tone that the AV
companies are essentially
01:58:14.029 --> 01:58:16.580
at the will of their manufacturers.
01:58:16.580 --> 01:58:18.700
And that's what will determine
01:58:18.700 --> 01:58:20.900
if the vehicles are accessible.
01:58:20.900 --> 01:58:23.930
And I don't think that's the
intent that you have here.
01:58:23.930 --> 01:58:27.600
So, I would just
request that you strike it.
01:58:27.600 --> 01:58:32.600
And I think that the
overarching direction
01:58:34.090 --> 01:58:35.290
of the PD is clear.
01:58:35.290 --> 01:58:38.550
And this would verify
that just a bit further.
01:58:38.550 --> 01:58:40.973
So I would ask for your
consideration on that.
01:58:43.460 --> 01:58:46.053
Yes, Commissioner Randolph.
01:58:49.235 --> 01:58:54.235
I'm usually fairly hostile to
amendments from the diet,
01:58:55.120 --> 01:58:56.780
but I think this is,
01:58:56.780 --> 01:58:59.883
would be a good
discussion to have because,
01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:04.900
I do think that the companies,
01:59:04.900 --> 01:59:07.480
as they develop their
01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:11.530
sort of services and their products,
01:59:11.530 --> 01:59:14.780
I really would like to push them
01:59:14.780 --> 01:59:19.723
to be thinking early about
how to increase accessibility.
01:59:20.660 --> 01:59:23.410
I think Marilyn Golden put it best when
01:59:23.410 --> 01:59:26.690
she said she wants the
service to be born accessible.
01:59:26.690 --> 01:59:31.220
And I think it's a little
premature to say exactly
01:59:31.220 --> 01:59:34.230
how that needs to happen
because these companies really
01:59:34.230 --> 01:59:37.930
have not gotten their
commercial service off the ground.
01:59:37.930 --> 01:59:40.970
So I am comfortable
with the overall framework
01:59:42.070 --> 01:59:45.510
that is in the PD, but I like
01:59:46.400 --> 01:59:48.990
two aspects of these
changes that you've proposed
01:59:48.990 --> 01:59:51.580
Commissioner Guzman Aceves which is,
01:59:51.580 --> 01:59:56.580
sort of more directly calling
out the need to ensure
01:59:56.830 --> 01:59:59.360
including people with disabilities
01:59:59.360 --> 02:00:01.150
as part of this framework.
02:00:01.150 --> 02:00:03.923
And then also kind of
saying to the companies,
02:00:05.146 --> 02:00:07.300
you need to be creative in terms
02:00:07.300 --> 02:00:12.300
of how you are going to be
making this service accessible.
02:00:14.715 --> 02:00:16.040
And I see the challenge, right?
02:00:16.040 --> 02:00:18.220
I've seen the Waymo
vehicles and you look
02:00:18.220 --> 02:00:22.210
in the back and there is a
ton of equipment back there.
02:00:22.210 --> 02:00:24.800
And it sort of, but
02:00:24.800 --> 02:00:27.510
this really should be part
of what they're thinking
02:00:27.510 --> 02:00:32.510
about in terms of how they
are configuring their vehicles
02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:37.800
and what the opportunities
might be in the future.
02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:40.323
And they need to be
thinking about that today.
02:00:41.660 --> 02:00:46.360
So, I would actually be supportive of
02:00:46.360 --> 02:00:48.973
the language proposed by
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:00:55.670 --> 02:00:57.660
All right, is there anyone--
President.
02:00:57.660 --> 02:00:58.493
Yes, please.
02:00:59.990 --> 02:01:02.220
I'm sorry, were
you calling on me?
02:01:02.220 --> 02:01:05.340
Yes, I am following on
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:01:05.340 --> 02:01:06.880
Okay, thank you.
02:01:06.880 --> 02:01:11.810
Yes, points all very well taken
02:01:11.810 --> 02:01:18.100
and the language that
you're proposing to delete
02:01:18.100 --> 02:01:20.897
and change Commissioner Guzman Aceves
02:01:23.950 --> 02:01:26.320
in seeing this and reading this again,
02:01:26.320 --> 02:01:29.240
it's, it really is just speculative
02:01:29.240 --> 02:01:34.240
about what would or
would not enhance assuring
02:01:35.590 --> 02:01:39.077
that we are at the get go requiring AVs
02:01:41.752 --> 02:01:45.810
to take this seriously pay attention.
02:01:45.810 --> 02:01:47.683
And for us to start off,
02:01:50.480 --> 02:01:54.520
assuring that we are providing a program
02:01:54.520 --> 02:01:56.990
that expands the benefits for all,
02:01:56.990 --> 02:01:59.010
all of California communities
02:01:59.010 --> 02:02:00.890
including people with disabilities.
02:02:00.890 --> 02:02:04.490
So, I like the changes
02:02:05.570 --> 02:02:09.710
and perhaps whether it is
02:02:12.210 --> 02:02:16.340
judge Simon or whether
it is, council, (indistinct),
02:02:19.380 --> 02:02:23.010
I hear can we accept these changes
02:02:24.370 --> 02:02:27.560
today and adopt out the,
02:02:27.560 --> 02:02:32.480
I think that these are comport
with comedies are not the
02:02:32.480 --> 02:02:35.650
these are not bringing
in something brand new.
02:02:35.650 --> 02:02:36.560
And can we go ahead
02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:41.380
and may I propose that we
can accept these changes
02:02:41.380 --> 02:02:43.680
and adopt out the proposed decision
02:02:43.680 --> 02:02:45.453
with these changes today.
02:02:46.547 --> 02:02:48.100
Okay.
Commissioner Shiroma
02:02:48.100 --> 02:02:50.210
this is general Counsel O. Gekker
02:02:52.620 --> 02:02:54.350
assuming the motion is made
02:02:54.350 --> 02:02:57.600
and the Commission vote
to accept these amendments.
02:02:57.600 --> 02:02:59.710
You can amend from the (indistinct).
02:03:03.120 --> 02:03:05.650
Thank you (indistinct)
02:03:05.650 --> 02:03:08.140
are there before we accept the motion,
02:03:08.140 --> 02:03:10.240
are there any other
comments at this time?
02:03:11.120 --> 02:03:13.080
I'm highly supportive
02:03:13.080 --> 02:03:18.060
of the changes that are
being recommended and very
02:03:18.060 --> 02:03:21.333
supportive also Commissioner
Randolph of your comments.
02:03:23.200 --> 02:03:26.142
Yes, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen, yeah, I see your hand.
02:03:26.142 --> 02:03:28.370
Yes I, you did.
02:03:28.370 --> 02:03:31.825
I am as well, I very much appreciate
02:03:31.825 --> 02:03:35.900
Commissioner Shiroma's
receptivity to the amendments.
02:03:35.900 --> 02:03:38.350
And I do think it's consistent with
02:03:39.290 --> 02:03:41.610
the spirit of what you're
trying to achieve here
02:03:41.610 --> 02:03:45.420
which has set broad
goals, not specific targets.
02:03:45.420 --> 02:03:48.740
And I also think, and I also was struck
02:03:48.740 --> 02:03:52.430
by what Marilyn Golden said
about designing these vehicles
02:03:52.430 --> 02:03:54.080
from birth to be accessible.
02:03:54.080 --> 02:03:56.990
It's much easier to do it from scratch
02:03:56.990 --> 02:03:59.250
into retrofit vehicles later on.
02:03:59.250 --> 02:04:02.727
So, doing it at the outset
makes a lot of sense
02:04:02.727 --> 02:04:05.570
and making that goal explicit
02:04:05.570 --> 02:04:07.400
I think is an important signal for us.
02:04:07.400 --> 02:04:09.683
So I'll be supportive of this amendment.
02:04:13.250 --> 02:04:15.060
Okay, with that,
02:04:15.060 --> 02:04:20.010
do we have a motion on the amendment
02:04:20.010 --> 02:04:23.357
as presented by
Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:04:25.570 --> 02:04:26.623
Motion.
Yes.
02:04:27.870 --> 02:04:31.010
I would be happy to,
whatever you would like to do.
02:04:31.010 --> 02:04:36.010
I'm happy to make the
motion but I also would defer to
02:04:36.104 --> 02:04:36.937
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
I will second
02:04:36.937 --> 02:04:38.740
your motion Commissioner.
02:04:38.740 --> 02:04:40.400
Okay (laugh).
02:04:40.400 --> 02:04:42.610
All right, thank you.
02:04:42.610 --> 02:04:47.610
Motion has been made and
seconded to accept the amendment
02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:52.680
as proposed by Commissioner
Guzman Aceves to item number 40.
02:04:53.833 --> 02:04:55.320
Well the agenda clerk,
02:04:55.320 --> 02:04:57.220
please call the roll on the amendment.
02:04:58.420 --> 02:04:59.970
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:05:01.090 --> 02:05:04.110
Aye and I hope I was
clear that with the motion
02:05:04.110 --> 02:05:05.660
it's to the amendment.
02:05:05.660 --> 02:05:10.660
And is it for the PD,
with the amendment?
02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:13.080
No, the amendment only
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:05:13.080 --> 02:05:16.930
Then we will dwell on the PD
Okay.
02:05:16.930 --> 02:05:19.950
If the amendment is supported.
02:05:19.950 --> 02:05:22.003
You will vote on the Pds as amended.
02:05:23.023 --> 02:05:24.420
All right thank you.
02:05:24.420 --> 02:05:25.523
My belief is aye.
02:05:27.060 --> 02:05:29.243
Wait a minute, we have, okay.
02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:34.193
Go ahead, I'm sorry,
go ahead with the vote.
02:05:35.290 --> 02:05:37.023
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:05:38.068 --> 02:05:39.550
Aye.
02:05:39.550 --> 02:05:40.893
Commissioner Randolph.
02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:43.410
Yes.
02:05:43.410 --> 02:05:45.610
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:05:45.610 --> 02:05:46.443
Yes.
02:05:47.970 --> 02:05:49.790
President Batjer.
02:05:49.790 --> 02:05:51.260
Yes.
02:05:51.260 --> 02:05:54.820
The vote is unanimous on
accepting the amendment.
02:05:54.820 --> 02:05:58.450
We will now vote on item 40
02:06:00.022 --> 02:06:03.130
with the amendment now approved.
02:06:03.130 --> 02:06:05.947
Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:06:05.947 --> 02:06:07.730
And before we vote today,
02:06:07.730 --> 02:06:09.810
I wanted to make a couple of comments
02:06:09.810 --> 02:06:10.643
and as Commissioners Shiroma
02:06:10.643 --> 02:06:12.140
a couple of questions if I could.
02:06:12.140 --> 02:06:13.893
Of course please, please.
02:06:14.970 --> 02:06:18.890
I wanna thank you
for your leadership
02:06:18.890 --> 02:06:22.110
in this very detailed decision
02:06:22.110 --> 02:06:25.390
and your efforts in this exciting
02:06:25.390 --> 02:06:27.220
and emerging area, which raises
02:06:27.220 --> 02:06:30.590
many difficult policy questions.
02:06:30.590 --> 02:06:33.860
I especially like the
fact that this decision
02:06:33.860 --> 02:06:36.553
provides a clear path
to commercial operation,
02:06:37.518 --> 02:06:39.610
that's, very important.
02:06:39.610 --> 02:06:42.620
I have a couple of questions
and I wanted to make a comment
02:06:42.620 --> 02:06:45.000
to the parties generally but,
02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:50.000
the first question concerns
the approach that you took
02:06:51.060 --> 02:06:53.630
in setting principles and policy goals
02:06:53.630 --> 02:06:55.273
and parties raised a lot of,
02:06:56.734 --> 02:07:00.260
the parties comments recommended
a whole range of changes.
02:07:00.260 --> 02:07:02.660
Some clarifying, some
wanted to go further.
02:07:02.660 --> 02:07:05.410
Some claims we need prescriptive targets
02:07:06.280 --> 02:07:08.350
to reach the stated policy goals.
02:07:08.350 --> 02:07:11.140
Obviously we just changed
the accessibility goal.
02:07:11.140 --> 02:07:13.100
I'm just wondering if you
could provide a little bit
02:07:13.100 --> 02:07:17.050
more background about
why you thought that the goals
02:07:17.050 --> 02:07:20.090
that were set in a PD
strike the right balance.
02:07:20.090 --> 02:07:21.763
What were you looking for here?
02:07:26.350 --> 02:07:31.350
To put it simply,
02:07:31.860 --> 02:07:36.850
we are going from
an initial pilot program
02:07:38.300 --> 02:07:43.300
to the next generation
of this pilot program
02:07:43.960 --> 02:07:48.960
and then towards looking
at, full on deployment.
02:07:49.010 --> 02:07:53.950
And so, I would say that I wanted to
02:07:56.390 --> 02:07:58.960
there's a deep hunger for this,
02:07:58.960 --> 02:08:03.620
and I do appreciate that,
but we are talking about
02:08:06.857 --> 02:08:09.520
a really, a brand new program
02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:14.520
that will be a paradigm
changing program for us.
02:08:15.470 --> 02:08:20.470
And so it really is just
striking a balance of
02:08:22.050 --> 02:08:27.080
the staff in depth analysis
of what we're doing
02:08:28.610 --> 02:08:32.250
and going somewhat cautiously.
02:08:32.250 --> 02:08:36.130
But adding in what we
thought was the biggest step
02:08:36.130 --> 02:08:40.470
was to allow fare for fair collection.
02:08:40.470 --> 02:08:44.340
Without discounting the
efforts that we need to make
02:08:44.340 --> 02:08:47.510
in response to the folks
02:08:47.510 --> 02:08:51.340
who want to have that larger frameworks,
02:08:51.340 --> 02:08:55.000
it really goes to the
principles of the CPC
02:08:55.970 --> 02:08:59.683
that we are information driven,
02:09:00.630 --> 02:09:02.620
experience driven.
02:09:02.620 --> 02:09:06.020
And with that workshop driven
02:09:06.020 --> 02:09:08.930
and with that we can then amplify
02:09:08.930 --> 02:09:11.113
on what those additional
goals should be.
02:09:13.940 --> 02:09:16.400
Okay, do you have
any sense by the way
02:09:16.400 --> 02:09:20.740
when we can expect the first application
02:09:20.740 --> 02:09:23.690
or when we were likely to see
02:09:26.630 --> 02:09:28.630
the first deployment application?
02:09:28.630 --> 02:09:30.270
Do you have any sense of that?
02:09:30.270 --> 02:09:32.610
Or is that still just hope?
02:09:32.610 --> 02:09:34.060
Totally open-ended questions.
02:09:37.110 --> 02:09:40.010
Well, again, we
need a permit record
02:09:40.010 --> 02:09:42.690
from the department of motor vehicles
02:09:42.690 --> 02:09:47.240
and then the application to the CPC,
02:09:47.240 --> 02:09:48.790
resolutions, and then the vote.
02:09:50.764 --> 02:09:54.920
I am going to do an educated guess here.
02:09:54.920 --> 02:09:58.970
Companies are poised to
submit these applications
02:09:58.970 --> 02:10:03.723
pretty quickly after we
vote out this decision.
02:10:06.300 --> 02:10:08.010
I do have a specific question
02:10:08.010 --> 02:10:13.010
about the decision to
have serial approvals
02:10:13.750 --> 02:10:15.360
rather than concurrent approval.
02:10:15.360 --> 02:10:17.290
So that the companies
can only file with us
02:10:17.290 --> 02:10:21.850
after they've gotten a
deployment permit from the DMV.
02:10:21.850 --> 02:10:25.510
And I wanted to just, I'm
supportive of this decision
02:10:25.510 --> 02:10:28.180
but I wanna understand
your thinking a little bit better.
02:10:28.180 --> 02:10:31.530
Were you concerned that
our approval might prejudge
02:10:31.530 --> 02:10:36.530
what DMV did or that we would
spend limited staff resources
02:10:36.740 --> 02:10:41.220
on an application that might
not pass the DMV process?
02:10:41.220 --> 02:10:44.660
And I asked because it's not
uncommon to have concurrent
02:10:44.660 --> 02:10:47.160
regulatory approval processes
02:10:47.160 --> 02:10:49.230
where the applicant can't take action
02:10:49.230 --> 02:10:50.830
until all the pieces come together.
02:10:50.830 --> 02:10:53.290
We do that in the context of our
02:10:53.290 --> 02:10:55.210
power purchase agreements, for example
02:10:55.210 --> 02:10:58.240
where we have an application
before us at the same time
02:10:58.240 --> 02:11:02.310
local governments may be
considering permitting requirements
02:11:02.310 --> 02:11:05.880
and you can't do anything
till both agencies act
02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:09.280
and sometimes separate serial processes
02:11:09.280 --> 02:11:11.000
can take quite a bit longer.
02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:13.410
So I just wanted to get an understanding
02:11:13.410 --> 02:11:16.263
of what your thought process was here?
02:11:24.180 --> 02:11:29.180
I don't know if I'm
terribly cautious by nature.
02:11:29.410 --> 02:11:31.830
I mean, I don't think so because
02:11:31.830 --> 02:11:34.050
in my two years here at the Commission
02:11:34.050 --> 02:11:36.250
I've certainly been pushing through
02:11:38.180 --> 02:11:40.360
various decisions and what have you.
02:11:40.360 --> 02:11:44.860
but here, you hear about, okay
02:11:45.790 --> 02:11:48.393
is enough being done for safety right?
02:11:49.350 --> 02:11:53.130
And of course the Hunter to deploy.
02:11:53.130 --> 02:11:55.720
This is a new program
02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:00.220
and we do know that accrue, see what
02:12:05.810 --> 02:12:06.703
my notes here.
02:12:07.730 --> 02:12:10.980
Cruz has already
received its DMV permit.
02:12:10.980 --> 02:12:14.300
So I wouldn't, just to
call out one company,
02:12:14.300 --> 02:12:16.293
I mean, there are a host of companies
02:12:16.293 --> 02:12:18.440
that are interested in this space
02:12:19.750 --> 02:12:21.133
but really in terms of,
02:12:22.070 --> 02:12:27.070
we need to be assured that
the companies are proposing
02:12:29.542 --> 02:12:34.250
a vehicle safety program
that they're designed
02:12:34.250 --> 02:12:36.850
and how they will operate on the street
02:12:36.850 --> 02:12:41.293
on the highways and on
the streets has muster, right?
02:12:42.400 --> 02:12:44.840
And then our role then kicks in.
02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:47.270
I think with a little more experience
02:12:47.270 --> 02:12:49.093
we can certainly revisit this,
02:12:50.440 --> 02:12:53.390
but for the first out the shoot on this,
02:12:53.390 --> 02:12:57.220
we need to be assured
that what they have designed
02:12:57.220 --> 02:12:59.350
passes muster first, okay.
02:12:59.350 --> 02:13:01.840
And then kick into to our process,
02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:06.080
which we know and the
staff know that efficiencies
02:13:06.080 --> 02:13:09.270
will be desired in terms of processing
02:13:09.270 --> 02:13:11.680
these two or three letters
02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:14.473
and coming to a vote for a
condition by the condition.
02:13:15.560 --> 02:13:18.190
I hope that was providing insights.
02:13:18.190 --> 02:13:20.604
Yeah, I understand
that, thank you.
02:13:20.604 --> 02:13:25.070
And then thank you for those
answers, Commissioner Shiroma.
02:13:25.070 --> 02:13:27.100
I just wanna say one last thing,
02:13:27.100 --> 02:13:30.280
based on some observations from my staff
02:13:30.280 --> 02:13:33.560
and my own observations
about the interactions
02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:35.270
with the companies out here.
02:13:35.270 --> 02:13:38.360
This is an emerging regulatory space
02:13:38.360 --> 02:13:40.440
in emerging technological space.
02:13:40.440 --> 02:13:43.240
Parties are not necessarily
familiar with our processes
02:13:44.570 --> 02:13:47.280
which can be difficult at times.
02:13:47.280 --> 02:13:50.220
But I really wanna urge the AV companies
02:13:50.220 --> 02:13:52.040
and other interested parties
02:13:52.040 --> 02:13:54.450
to continue working
on all these issues even
02:13:54.450 --> 02:13:58.900
if they're outside the context
of our formal proceeding.
02:13:58.900 --> 02:14:02.270
I think the decision does
encourage coordination
02:14:02.270 --> 02:14:06.960
between companies and local
governments on pilot programs.
02:14:06.960 --> 02:14:09.500
I would like to go beyond that
02:14:09.500 --> 02:14:12.670
and strongly encouraged
more communications on some
02:14:12.670 --> 02:14:17.150
of the tough issues like
accessibility when it's actually
02:14:17.150 --> 02:14:22.150
we're talking about specifics
like equity, data access.
02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:25.420
I also, for that matter, I
wanna encourage our staff
02:14:25.420 --> 02:14:28.750
to work on data issues
with AV companies,
02:14:28.750 --> 02:14:33.750
beyond that, beyond our typical
ruling and comment process
02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:35.900
maybe we have working
groups to try to tackle
02:14:35.900 --> 02:14:38.600
some of the data issues,
which are gonna be difficult.
02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:39.860
And as Commissioner Shiroma said,
02:14:39.860 --> 02:14:41.950
we have 55 data points is a lot of
02:14:43.670 --> 02:14:45.500
information to work through.
02:14:45.500 --> 02:14:48.900
I think these kinds of
more informal context
02:14:48.900 --> 02:14:52.570
and communication can
be very beneficial in terms
02:14:52.570 --> 02:14:56.550
of getting a fuller understanding
of our party's positions
02:14:56.550 --> 02:15:01.160
and also making our
process more efficient.
02:15:01.160 --> 02:15:04.717
With that I will be
supporting the decision.
02:15:04.717 --> 02:15:06.800
And I thank you again
Commissioner Shiroma
02:15:06.800 --> 02:15:09.040
for your leadership
in this comprehensive
02:15:09.040 --> 02:15:10.543
and well-reasoned decision.
02:15:14.360 --> 02:15:16.360
Thank you, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
02:15:17.450 --> 02:15:22.143
Are there any other comments
on item number 40, as amended?
02:15:24.330 --> 02:15:27.730
Okay, seeing none, I just
want to, before we vote,
02:15:27.730 --> 02:15:30.237
do I want to say Commissioner Shiroma,
02:15:30.237 --> 02:15:34.330
thank you very much as
Commissioner Rechtschaffen just said
02:15:34.330 --> 02:15:37.180
for your leadership and
a very comprehensive
02:15:37.180 --> 02:15:42.090
and thorough this proposed decision is,
02:15:42.090 --> 02:15:44.537
and I thank you and your
staff for all of your hard work.
02:15:44.537 --> 02:15:47.640
And of course that too, of judge Mason.
02:15:47.640 --> 02:15:52.363
So with that, will the agenda
clerk, please call the roll.
02:15:54.370 --> 02:15:56.686
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:15:56.686 --> 02:15:57.519
Aye.
02:15:58.390 --> 02:16:00.618
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:16:00.618 --> 02:16:02.090
Aye.
02:16:02.090 --> 02:16:04.230
Commissioner Randolph.
02:16:04.230 --> 02:16:05.257
Yes.
02:16:05.257 --> 02:16:07.107
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:16:08.130 --> 02:16:09.620
Yes.
02:16:09.620 --> 02:16:11.510
President Batjer.
02:16:11.510 --> 02:16:14.480
Yes, item 40 is
passed unanimously
02:16:15.360 --> 02:16:19.173
item 40 as amended has been
passed unanimously, thank you.
02:16:20.770 --> 02:16:23.360
Let's move on now to,
02:16:23.360 --> 02:16:26.960
well item 42 is related to item 38,
02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:31.000
which was moved to the
December third meeting.
02:16:33.400 --> 02:16:36.383
Am I accurate on that
we would not take this up?
02:16:37.756 --> 02:16:38.970
Should we not be--
Actually, we do need
02:16:38.970 --> 02:16:40.900
to take it up.
President Batjer.
02:16:40.900 --> 02:16:43.730
Yeah, we need to extend
the statutory deadline
02:16:43.730 --> 02:16:48.730
for the proceeding because
we did not vote out the PD today.
02:16:48.750 --> 02:16:51.070
Okay, all right,
very well then.
02:16:51.070 --> 02:16:52.170
Commissioner Randolph?
02:16:53.010 --> 02:16:57.420
Okay, so this is an order
extending statutory deadline
02:16:57.420 --> 02:17:00.570
in the Cal Water GRC.
02:17:00.570 --> 02:17:04.720
I had hoped that we would
vote it out today, but as I noted
02:17:04.720 --> 02:17:08.500
we need to make some
corrections to the proposed decision.
02:17:08.500 --> 02:17:12.070
So this is an order that will
extend the statutory deadline
02:17:12.070 --> 02:17:17.070
and it will allow us to vote
on it at our next meeting.
02:17:18.240 --> 02:17:22.730
And so as my advisor, Lester Wong
02:17:22.730 --> 02:17:24.120
and water Division
02:17:24.120 --> 02:17:29.120
and ALJ Ferguson kind of
bring it across the finish line.
02:17:29.140 --> 02:17:30.610
We'll extend the statutory deadline
02:17:30.610 --> 02:17:32.530
and be voting on this in December.
02:17:32.530 --> 02:17:34.033
So I asked for your support.
02:17:35.710 --> 02:17:38.420
Any other comments, questions?
02:17:38.420 --> 02:17:41.050
Okay, seeing none will the agenda clerk
02:17:41.050 --> 02:17:42.873
please call the roll on item 42.
02:17:43.875 --> 02:17:45.730
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:17:45.730 --> 02:17:47.090
Aye.
02:17:47.090 --> 02:17:49.593
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:17:49.593 --> 02:17:51.030
Aye.
02:17:51.030 --> 02:17:52.230
Commissioner Randolph.
02:17:53.330 --> 02:17:54.163
Yes.
02:17:55.300 --> 02:17:57.150
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:17:58.050 --> 02:17:59.550
Yes.
02:17:59.550 --> 02:18:01.190
President Batjer.
02:18:01.190 --> 02:18:04.770
Yes, item 42 is
passed unanimously.
02:18:04.770 --> 02:18:09.593
Moving now to item 43
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:18:11.200 --> 02:18:13.600
Item 43 is an extension order
02:18:13.600 --> 02:18:17.200
in our emergency
preparedness proceeding.
02:18:17.200 --> 02:18:21.210
Section 768 of the public utilities code
02:18:21.210 --> 02:18:23.260
sets out certain requirements for water
02:18:23.260 --> 02:18:26.640
and electric utilities,
emergency preparedness plans.
02:18:26.640 --> 02:18:30.120
In this proceeding, we are
reviewing a staff proposal
02:18:30.120 --> 02:18:31.970
to update those requirements.
02:18:31.970 --> 02:18:34.820
And those updates will be reflected
02:18:34.820 --> 02:18:39.440
in our existing general order
on emergency preparedness.
02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:42.620
In the meantime, utilities must comply
02:18:42.620 --> 02:18:44.260
with the general plan orders
02:18:44.260 --> 02:18:47.393
and they have been submitting
emergency preparedness plans.
02:18:48.358 --> 02:18:51.410
This means that even
though the proceeding
02:18:51.410 --> 02:18:54.090
hasn't been finished in a timeframe
02:18:54.090 --> 02:18:56.005
that are required by statute
02:18:56.005 --> 02:18:58.250
I don't think there's been any impact
02:18:58.250 --> 02:19:00.700
on our safety guidelines
which is the focus
02:19:00.700 --> 02:19:02.160
of this rulemaking.
02:19:02.160 --> 02:19:05.607
I asked for your support
for one last extension order
02:19:05.607 --> 02:19:07.933
to May 30th, 2021.
02:19:10.520 --> 02:19:12.060
All right, thank you.
02:19:12.060 --> 02:19:15.143
Comments or questions of
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:19:16.140 --> 02:19:17.560
Seeing none, will the agenda clerk,
02:19:17.560 --> 02:19:20.903
please call the roll on item 43.
02:19:21.870 --> 02:19:23.976
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:19:23.976 --> 02:19:25.339
Aye.
02:19:25.339 --> 02:19:27.808
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:19:27.808 --> 02:19:29.236
Aye.
02:19:29.236 --> 02:19:31.812
Commissioner Randolph.
02:19:31.812 --> 02:19:33.416
Yes.
02:19:33.416 --> 02:19:35.692
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:19:35.692 --> 02:19:37.106
Yes.
02:19:37.106 --> 02:19:38.787
President Batjer.
02:19:38.787 --> 02:19:41.514
Yes, item 43 has
passed unanimously.
02:19:41.514 --> 02:19:45.181
Moving now to item 44
Commissioner Randolph.
02:19:46.627 --> 02:19:50.044
This is an order
extending statutory deadline
02:19:50.044 --> 02:19:53.576
in the city of Ione rail
crossing proceeding,
02:19:53.576 --> 02:19:55.576
as we discussed earlier.
02:19:57.510 --> 02:20:01.213
There needs to be a
phase two of this proceeding
02:20:01.213 --> 02:20:02.966
to consider potential penalties
02:20:02.966 --> 02:20:07.883
for the construction of the
crossing without authorization.
02:20:09.062 --> 02:20:13.576
And so I asked your support
for this proposed decision
02:20:13.576 --> 02:20:16.327
extending the such street deadline.
02:20:16.327 --> 02:20:17.487
Okay.
02:20:17.487 --> 02:20:21.404
Are there any questions
or comments on item 44?
02:20:22.895 --> 02:20:26.624
Seeing none, will the agenda
clerk please call the roll.
02:20:26.624 --> 02:20:28.592
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:20:28.592 --> 02:20:29.942
Aye.
02:20:29.942 --> 02:20:33.414
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:20:33.414 --> 02:20:35.016
Aye.
02:20:35.016 --> 02:20:37.486
Commissioner Randolph.
02:20:37.486 --> 02:20:38.319
Yes.
02:20:39.234 --> 02:20:41.332
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:20:41.332 --> 02:20:43.261
Yes.
02:20:43.261 --> 02:20:45.101
President Batjer.
02:20:45.101 --> 02:20:46.260
Yes.
02:20:46.260 --> 02:20:49.070
Thank you all, item 44
has passed unanimously.
02:20:49.070 --> 02:20:52.047
Moving now to item 45
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:20:53.410 --> 02:20:54.270
Thank you.
02:20:54.270 --> 02:20:57.737
This is an order sending
deadlines for San Diego Gas
02:20:57.737 --> 02:21:01.493
and Electric 2018 era compliance.
02:21:02.850 --> 02:21:07.230
And we actually have a PD
that is a mailing very soon.
02:21:07.230 --> 02:21:12.230
So I was requesting an
extension until February of 2021.
02:21:12.470 --> 02:21:13.303
Thank you.
02:21:14.780 --> 02:21:16.450
Are there any
comments or questions
02:21:16.450 --> 02:21:19.140
of Commissioner Guzman Aceves?
02:21:19.140 --> 02:21:21.790
Seeing them on the agenda
clerk please call the role.
02:21:22.860 --> 02:21:24.620
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:21:24.620 --> 02:21:26.250
Aye.
02:21:26.250 --> 02:21:28.680
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:29.513
Aye.
02:21:30.690 --> 02:21:32.083
Commissioner Randolph.
02:21:32.940 --> 02:21:33.773
Yes.
02:21:34.790 --> 02:21:37.140
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:21:37.140 --> 02:21:38.580
Yes.
02:21:38.580 --> 02:21:40.290
President Batjer.
02:21:40.290 --> 02:21:44.573
Yes, item number 45
is passed unanimously.
02:21:45.510 --> 02:21:49.040
We do moving on to
the management reports.
02:21:49.040 --> 02:21:52.830
There is no report today on item 47
02:21:52.830 --> 02:21:54.280
which is the report in discussion
02:21:54.280 --> 02:21:58.440
on recent consumer
protection and safety activities.
02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:03.000
And there is no report on item 48,
02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:07.020
which is the management
report on administrative activities.
02:22:07.020 --> 02:22:10.860
So before we move on to
the Commissioners reports,
02:22:10.860 --> 02:22:13.130
I would like to take a break
02:22:13.130 --> 02:22:18.130
in our proceedings for
one hour, 45 minutes,
02:22:19.030 --> 02:22:23.787
how's that 45 minutes to a 1:15 p.m.
02:22:23.787 --> 02:22:25.440
President Batjer.
02:22:25.440 --> 02:22:26.273
Yes.
02:22:26.273 --> 02:22:29.830
President Batjer
we still have item 49
02:22:29.830 --> 02:22:31.970
before Commissioner
reports that the report
02:22:31.970 --> 02:22:33.910
is a disadvantaged
communities advisory group.
02:22:33.910 --> 02:22:35.520
Okay, I'm sorry, thank you.
02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:38.090
I'm I'm so sorry, of course.
02:22:38.090 --> 02:22:41.190
That's a very important
report that we will have
02:22:42.160 --> 02:22:44.010
and we will have that when we return.
02:22:45.230 --> 02:22:46.430
Thank you.
02:22:46.430 --> 02:22:50.850
Thank you for
catching my error there.
02:22:50.850 --> 02:22:52.203
Okay, so 45 minutes,
02:22:52.203 --> 02:22:54.580
then we'll return--
Till 1:15?
02:22:54.580 --> 02:22:57.123
Yes, 45 minutes,
we'll return at 1:15.
02:22:58.340 --> 02:22:59.450
Thank you.
02:22:59.450 --> 02:23:00.283
Thank you.
02:23:14.183 --> 02:23:18.400
Before we took our
break, I had announced that
02:23:19.270 --> 02:23:21.270
the management reports there would be no
02:23:22.210 --> 02:23:26.720
management report on item 47 and 48.
02:23:26.720 --> 02:23:29.490
And we would now turn to
the Commissioner's report
02:23:30.370 --> 02:23:33.640
and I do want to establish a quorum
02:23:33.640 --> 02:23:37.460
before we continue
with our first presentation
02:23:37.460 --> 02:23:39.590
that's within the Commissioner's report.
02:23:39.590 --> 02:23:42.240
So if the agenda clerk
could please call the roll
02:23:43.358 --> 02:23:45.126
Commissioner Shiroma.
02:23:45.126 --> 02:23:46.748
Present.
02:23:46.748 --> 02:23:48.856
Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:23:48.856 --> 02:23:50.366
Here.
02:23:50.366 --> 02:23:52.729
Commissioner Randolph.
02:23:52.729 --> 02:23:54.173
Here.
02:23:54.173 --> 02:23:56.384
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
02:23:56.384 --> 02:23:57.217
Present.
02:23:58.234 --> 02:24:00.332
President Barjer.
02:24:00.332 --> 02:24:03.222
Here, we have established
quorum, thank you.
02:24:03.222 --> 02:24:04.210
(clear throat)
02:24:04.210 --> 02:24:06.810
So we will first have a presentation
02:24:06.810 --> 02:24:10.760
from the Disadvantaged
Communities Advisory Group
02:24:10.760 --> 02:24:12.010
on their annual report.
02:24:12.010 --> 02:24:13.750
And I believe Commissioner Rechtschaffen
02:24:13.750 --> 02:24:16.663
you are going to do the
introduction of today's speakers.
02:24:17.820 --> 02:24:21.670
Thank you, it's my pleasure
to introduce the annual report
02:24:21.670 --> 02:24:24.690
of our Disadvantaged
Communities Advisory Group.
02:24:24.690 --> 02:24:27.843
Just to remind folks, this
group was formed about two
02:24:27.843 --> 02:24:31.630
and a half years ago
to provide advice to both
02:24:31.630 --> 02:24:34.620
the CPUC and the
California Energy Commission
02:24:34.620 --> 02:24:37.710
on a variety of subject
areas and barriers,
02:24:37.710 --> 02:24:41.350
keeping disadvantaged
community from realizing the benefits
02:24:41.350 --> 02:24:42.920
of our clean energy programs.
02:24:42.920 --> 02:24:45.670
The group is comprised of 11 members
02:24:45.670 --> 02:24:48.310
from diverse communities in California,
02:24:48.310 --> 02:24:50.190
along with Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
02:24:50.190 --> 02:24:52.370
I've been one of the CPC liaison
02:24:52.370 --> 02:24:56.450
to the group I have to say,
we have been singularly
02:24:56.450 --> 02:25:00.710
impressed by the committee's
hard work, dedication
02:25:00.710 --> 02:25:05.360
and interest in diving
into the important with
02:25:05.360 --> 02:25:07.900
and details of our proceedings,
02:25:07.900 --> 02:25:10.840
as well as those of
the energy Commission.
02:25:10.840 --> 02:25:13.900
It is a really great group to work with.
02:25:13.900 --> 02:25:17.880
With that, I will turn the
mic over to Stan Greschner.
02:25:17.880 --> 02:25:22.200
Greschner and Angela
Islas, for Stan is the Chair.
02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:24.960
Angela is the vice Chair,
of the advisory group
02:25:24.960 --> 02:25:27.360
and they will be presenting
their annual report.
02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:34.160
Great, thanks, Cliff.
02:25:34.160 --> 02:25:37.113
I think we had, can
you slides are those up?
02:25:39.370 --> 02:25:40.503
They are, okay.
02:25:41.807 --> 02:25:44.236
Chriff thanks a lot Commissioner
Rechtschaffen thanks
02:25:44.236 --> 02:25:47.260
for that overview and introduction.
02:25:47.260 --> 02:25:48.190
Again, I'm Stan Greschner,
02:25:48.190 --> 02:25:50.750
I'm the Chair of the Disadvantaged
Community Advisory Group.
02:25:50.750 --> 02:25:54.143
And I'm here along with
my colleague, Angela Islas.
02:25:55.070 --> 02:25:56.430
Who does serve as the Vice Chair.
02:25:56.430 --> 02:25:58.123
So thank you for the invitation,
02:25:59.590 --> 02:26:01.070
to have us join you today
02:26:01.070 --> 02:26:03.663
to discuss the DACAG's
work over the past year.
02:26:04.600 --> 02:26:07.990
So first I wanna begin
by thanking all of you
02:26:07.990 --> 02:26:11.560
and your staff engagement with the DACAG
02:26:11.560 --> 02:26:14.380
over the past year and
bringing your policy areas,
02:26:14.380 --> 02:26:16.070
your questions and your openness
02:26:16.940 --> 02:26:21.940
for dialogue to the DACAG,
engaging monthly meetings.
02:26:23.730 --> 02:26:25.820
We are your advisory group.
02:26:25.820 --> 02:26:27.330
So without your participation
02:26:27.330 --> 02:26:29.330
and the participation of your teams
02:26:29.330 --> 02:26:32.440
and staff we can not
be the effective body
02:26:32.440 --> 02:26:36.530
that you want to be and
that aims to bring the voices
02:26:36.530 --> 02:26:39.620
and perspectives of
underserved communities
02:26:39.620 --> 02:26:43.630
into these important CPUC discussions.
02:26:43.630 --> 02:26:47.120
So you and your teams
have all been very thoughtful
02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:48.790
collaborators with the DACAG
02:26:48.790 --> 02:26:50.513
and we certainly appreciate it.
02:26:51.750 --> 02:26:54.120
I also wanna just call out a few folks
02:26:54.120 --> 02:26:57.890
at the CPUC we can do
our work is supporting you
02:26:57.890 --> 02:27:02.060
without the support our
selves from PECT members.
02:27:02.060 --> 02:27:04.750
And I especially want
to call out Kathleen Yip,
02:27:04.750 --> 02:27:07.350
Jason Reiger and (indistinct)
02:27:07.350 --> 02:27:09.750
and Johnson Ana Maria
who is with you now.
02:27:09.750 --> 02:27:14.313
He was at the CEC last
year, working with us.
02:27:15.437 --> 02:27:17.410
So I wanna thank them
specifically for their hard work
02:27:17.410 --> 02:27:21.550
with us, as well as the
many PUC staff members.
02:27:21.550 --> 02:27:24.350
And I think all of your advisors
02:27:24.350 --> 02:27:27.100
who participate in our monthly meetings.
02:27:27.100 --> 02:27:28.883
So on behalf of the DACAG,
02:27:29.800 --> 02:27:32.860
I do wanna express our sincere gratitude
02:27:32.860 --> 02:27:35.560
to the Commission and PUC
staff that support our work.
02:27:37.242 --> 02:27:40.650
So these are of the DACAG numbers.
02:27:40.650 --> 02:27:41.963
Next slide please.
02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:50.193
Okay, Angela?
02:27:54.150 --> 02:27:55.600
Yes.
02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:57.150
Okay, we have it then.
02:27:59.247 --> 02:28:01.053
That's it the priority topics, yeah.
02:28:02.730 --> 02:28:05.353
(indistinct)
I am so sorry,
02:28:05.353 --> 02:28:06.910
I am on a conference line,
02:28:06.910 --> 02:28:10.113
so I don't really know
what slide we're on, sorry.
02:28:11.050 --> 02:28:13.380
I'll kick it over to
you when it's (indistinct).
02:28:13.380 --> 02:28:14.730
Okay, cool.
02:28:14.730 --> 02:28:17.270
Okay, sorry about that, everybody.
02:28:17.270 --> 02:28:21.250
So yes, we're on the
side with priority topic.
02:28:21.250 --> 02:28:28.230
So basically these
were the 12 topic that we
02:28:28.230 --> 02:28:33.230
had identified in 2019
that we decided to take on.
02:28:34.980 --> 02:28:39.980
And a lot of this was from
many of the proceedings
02:28:40.170 --> 02:28:44.210
and programs that are
currently at the Commission
02:28:45.140 --> 02:28:50.140
that was brought to our
attention by the Commission staff,
02:28:50.880 --> 02:28:54.290
that we took that as a prioritization
02:28:54.290 --> 02:28:59.140
for us to work on for our 2019 year.
02:28:59.140 --> 02:29:01.720
And many of the topics
02:29:02.780 --> 02:29:06.400
there was a lot of
cross section kind of,
02:29:06.400 --> 02:29:08.650
similarities between some of them.
02:29:08.650 --> 02:29:10.810
We know that both had,
02:29:10.810 --> 02:29:15.810
overlaps with transportation
and also with energy storage
02:29:16.090 --> 02:29:18.950
and others on things such as the PSPS.
02:29:18.950 --> 02:29:22.990
So definitely a lot
of things that we took
02:29:22.990 --> 02:29:27.893
into our agenda for 2019 really tackle.
02:29:29.229 --> 02:29:31.690
And I'm not gonna really
go into detail with many
02:29:31.690 --> 02:29:34.793
of these, I think on later
on in the next couple slides.
02:29:36.778 --> 02:29:39.280
And we'll kind of get
into those a little bit
02:29:39.280 --> 02:29:41.930
but just wanted to show
you all just the highlights
02:29:41.930 --> 02:29:45.707
on of the issues that
the DACAG has engaged
02:29:45.707 --> 02:29:50.120
over the last year, especially
for all those on the lines.
02:29:50.120 --> 02:29:51.283
Next slide please.
02:29:56.090 --> 02:30:01.010
So, I'm gonna discuss a little bit
02:30:01.010 --> 02:30:04.460
about the overall objectives that we set
02:30:04.460 --> 02:30:09.233
for the advisory
committee, as well as a lot
02:30:09.233 --> 02:30:11.827
of the advocacy work that
02:30:14.316 --> 02:30:15.330
we dedicated our work
02:30:15.330 --> 02:30:17.143
towards with the Commissions.
02:30:18.510 --> 02:30:20.360
And these are just kind of really more
02:30:20.360 --> 02:30:22.350
like specific issue areas
02:30:23.500 --> 02:30:28.150
that we kind of wanted to
take more in depth work on
02:30:28.150 --> 02:30:32.020
and it kind of helps us with
defining what we would want
02:30:32.020 --> 02:30:36.690
to aim to do within this kind of area
02:30:36.690 --> 02:30:41.420
of civic policy on that
we wanted to cover.
02:30:41.420 --> 02:30:45.460
And so one of the first
objectives that the DACAG took
02:30:45.460 --> 02:30:50.460
on was to advocate for
many of the programs to
02:30:50.620 --> 02:30:53.753
maximally incorporate
the DACAG principle
02:30:55.200 --> 02:30:58.330
which is our equity
framework that was developed
02:30:58.330 --> 02:31:01.497
about now two and half years ago.
02:31:03.310 --> 02:31:05.590
And the equity framework focused on
02:31:05.590 --> 02:31:10.210
the five different key areas
that we wanted, some of the
02:31:10.210 --> 02:31:14.270
programs to be able to
kind of look over and see
02:31:14.270 --> 02:31:18.320
if this was something that was,
you know, being highlighted.
02:31:18.320 --> 02:31:20.920
And so many, those were on health
02:31:21.835 --> 02:31:24.860
and safety access and
education, financial benefits,
02:31:24.860 --> 02:31:27.723
economic development,
and human protection.
02:31:29.400 --> 02:31:34.400
The next one we have asked,
we have asked countlessly
02:31:35.960 --> 02:31:38.670
about where there would
be more opportunities
02:31:38.670 --> 02:31:41.620
for inner agency
collaboration and coordination
02:31:41.620 --> 02:31:44.290
among many of the
complimentary programs.
02:31:44.290 --> 02:31:47.270
So there was a lot of discussion
02:31:47.270 --> 02:31:49.320
through one of our key priorities
02:31:49.320 --> 02:31:53.913
which was the 8,607
that we've taken a couple,
02:31:55.120 --> 02:31:58.070
months back where, we want it to be that
02:31:58.070 --> 02:32:00.560
inter-agency collaboration with carb
02:32:00.560 --> 02:32:03.420
and figuring out how
some of the CEC programs
02:32:03.420 --> 02:32:08.420
can benefit from the some of the tasks
02:32:08.530 --> 02:32:12.320
and plans that the 86,607
group had developed
02:32:12.320 --> 02:32:15.300
for their air protection program.
02:32:15.300 --> 02:32:18.300
So looking into that was a priority,
02:32:18.300 --> 02:32:20.280
and especially with other agencies with
02:32:20.280 --> 02:32:24.230
workforce development or even
with Strategic Growth Council
02:32:24.230 --> 02:32:27.364
looking for more of those opportunities.
02:32:27.364 --> 02:32:31.940
And then finally just kind of looking
02:32:31.940 --> 02:32:35.350
into striving to expand
direct community participation
02:32:35.350 --> 02:32:38.760
to inform the advisory
02:32:38.760 --> 02:32:41.053
and advocacy roles
within the Commission.
02:32:41.970 --> 02:32:44.750
So these are just kind of like
three objectives that we took
02:32:44.750 --> 02:32:47.430
on last year to really
kind of expand more on
02:32:47.430 --> 02:32:51.440
and really wants to prioritize
to ask the Commission
02:32:51.440 --> 02:32:55.680
to really look into that and
prioritize that for our efforts
02:32:56.620 --> 02:32:58.560
and then I'll hand it back to Stan
02:32:58.560 --> 02:33:00.943
to finalize our presentation.
02:33:02.336 --> 02:33:03.373
Next slide.
02:33:06.350 --> 02:33:08.713
So, let me just highlight,
02:33:10.710 --> 02:33:14.420
we won't go into this
specific priority areas
02:33:16.340 --> 02:33:17.450
that we build into,
02:33:17.450 --> 02:33:19.590
but let me highlight
three thematic areas.
02:33:19.590 --> 02:33:23.400
We'll kind of through lines
in many of the discussions
02:33:23.400 --> 02:33:26.110
that we had over the course of the year
02:33:26.110 --> 02:33:30.710
and those being resiliency
and public safety power shut off,
02:33:30.710 --> 02:33:32.610
transportation electrification
02:33:32.610 --> 02:33:35.470
and kind of the number
three here is the umbrella issue
02:33:35.470 --> 02:33:40.470
of removing fossil fuels from
our energy mix more broadly.
02:33:40.590 --> 02:33:44.510
So kind of taking these
in reverse order here
02:33:44.510 --> 02:33:47.520
'cause point number
three is actually one of,
02:33:47.520 --> 02:33:50.600
is the first guiding
principle of our charter
02:33:50.600 --> 02:33:52.290
which is to increase access
02:33:52.290 --> 02:33:55.670
to clean energy technologies
for disadvantaged communities.
02:33:55.670 --> 02:33:58.400
So that's always our
starting place in many
02:33:58.400 --> 02:34:01.693
of the programs and
discussions that we engage in.
02:34:04.060 --> 02:34:07.670
Number two, equity in the
transportation electrification
02:34:07.670 --> 02:34:10.380
was a major topic this year statewide.
02:34:10.380 --> 02:34:13.950
So at the PUC with the test proceeding
02:34:13.950 --> 02:34:16.810
and that the CEC the
clean transportation program
02:34:18.190 --> 02:34:22.570
plan that they adopted and
ARB had had a lot of activity
02:34:22.570 --> 02:34:25.498
on the equity side as well
over the past 12, 18 months,
02:34:25.498 --> 02:34:28.560
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
and his staff team joined
02:34:28.560 --> 02:34:32.090
several of our meetings to
discuss the equity elements
02:34:32.090 --> 02:34:34.990
of the framework and ask for feedback
02:34:34.990 --> 02:34:39.990
which I believe staff substantively
that has centered equity
02:34:40.090 --> 02:34:43.793
within the adopted framework
now, which we're happy to see.
02:34:44.850 --> 02:34:48.180
We also spent a lot of time with
CEC, Commissioner Monahan
02:34:48.180 --> 02:34:50.350
and the fuel and transportation division
02:34:50.350 --> 02:34:54.908
as they work on their
three-year transportation program.
02:34:54.908 --> 02:34:58.720
So, we're happy to be brought
02:34:58.720 --> 02:35:00.800
into those discussions early and often
02:35:00.800 --> 02:35:03.260
and be able to provide feedback
02:35:03.260 --> 02:35:06.167
across all of those programs.
02:35:06.167 --> 02:35:09.910
And we also engaged and had
the Air Resources Board come in
02:35:09.910 --> 02:35:11.640
'cause you know, they offer
complimentary programs
02:35:11.640 --> 02:35:14.060
to what the CEC on pUc offers.
02:35:14.060 --> 02:35:17.401
So I'd have an understanding
of what they were doing
02:35:17.401 --> 02:35:19.900
on the light duty and heavy,
medium duty duty side.
02:35:19.900 --> 02:35:24.680
They were also part of our
clean transportation reviews
02:35:25.620 --> 02:35:29.150
and finally on their
resiliency and PSPS topic.
02:35:29.150 --> 02:35:32.480
This is a constant or consistent issue
02:35:32.480 --> 02:35:36.423
for around six months,
from October through April.
02:35:37.400 --> 02:35:39.050
It was on our agenda every month.
02:35:40.204 --> 02:35:43.520
And we did beta to
discuss the, with a lot
02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:48.440
of different stakeholders, the
impacts of the PSPS events
02:35:50.845 --> 02:35:55.070
and on our communities that we serve.
02:35:55.070 --> 02:35:56.880
So in addition to the PUC teams
02:35:56.880 --> 02:35:58.953
we also brought to MCUC teams.
02:35:58.953 --> 02:36:02.420
We also brought together
Callow, the office of planning
02:36:02.420 --> 02:36:06.550
and research and the
strategic growth council Kelly PA
02:36:06.550 --> 02:36:10.200
came in and had a discussion with us.
02:36:10.200 --> 02:36:12.190
And they're gonna give us a
comprehensive understanding
02:36:12.190 --> 02:36:16.230
of who was doing what in
Dax related to power shutoffs.
02:36:16.230 --> 02:36:19.960
'Cause everyone had a responsibility,
02:36:19.960 --> 02:36:22.110
everyone had different
programming that was targeting
02:36:22.110 --> 02:36:23.530
a lot of the same communities.
02:36:23.530 --> 02:36:26.310
So it was good for us
to collaborate across
02:36:26.310 --> 02:36:27.360
all of those agencies.
02:36:27.360 --> 02:36:29.030
And in that conversation,
it was interesting
02:36:29.030 --> 02:36:33.150
one of the agencies, they
02:36:34.420 --> 02:36:37.060
noted that there was no
coordinating body that worked
02:36:37.060 --> 02:36:39.690
across all of the
different state agencies.
02:36:39.690 --> 02:36:41.690
They were developing programs
02:36:41.690 --> 02:36:46.470
for Dax and where you were asked
02:36:46.470 --> 02:36:48.460
if we could consider
being that coordinating body
02:36:48.460 --> 02:36:51.110
and that we didn't pick
up that mantle officially.
02:36:51.110 --> 02:36:54.900
We, there was a recognized
yet and opportunity to can
02:36:56.263 --> 02:36:59.310
and we continue to bring
together those other voices to
02:36:59.310 --> 02:37:03.953
inform the work related to
our PSPS and resiliency work
02:37:03.953 --> 02:37:07.923
so that we can be a informed
resource for you and the CEC.
02:37:08.970 --> 02:37:12.320
We also hosted the VPs of the IOUs
02:37:12.320 --> 02:37:14.260
who are incharged with PSPS planning
02:37:15.120 --> 02:37:17.890
and spent several hours with
them discussing the challenges
02:37:17.890 --> 02:37:21.880
and opportunities to better
support backs leading up to,
02:37:21.880 --> 02:37:23.830
and during PSPS events.
02:37:23.830 --> 02:37:25.610
And we hosted leaders from the access
02:37:25.610 --> 02:37:28.370
and functional needs
community, tribal communities
02:37:28.370 --> 02:37:30.257
and of course impacted communities.
02:37:30.257 --> 02:37:32.160
And as Angela was saying,
02:37:32.160 --> 02:37:36.760
our goal was to bring additional voices
02:37:36.760 --> 02:37:39.300
in addition to the DACAG
numbers themselves
02:37:39.300 --> 02:37:42.480
but other community members
directly into the conversations
02:37:42.480 --> 02:37:46.600
we were having to get
their personal perspectives,
02:37:46.600 --> 02:37:49.250
on what they were feeling
and seeing on the ground
02:37:49.250 --> 02:37:51.070
and within their communities.
02:37:51.070 --> 02:37:53.460
And as Commissioner
Rechtschaffen knows very well
02:37:53.460 --> 02:37:55.243
much of the programmatic focus.
02:37:57.160 --> 02:38:01.430
On near term solutions
was focused primarily
02:38:01.430 --> 02:38:04.030
on battery storage
02:38:04.030 --> 02:38:06.900
as one of the solutions
for these communities
02:38:06.900 --> 02:38:10.460
and evolving the Asterisk
program to incorporate
02:38:10.460 --> 02:38:14.170
equity resiliency, the
Equity Resiliency program.
02:38:14.170 --> 02:38:16.710
So our Commissioner
Rechtschaffen and his team
02:38:16.710 --> 02:38:18.850
regularly updated the DACAG
02:38:18.850 --> 02:38:22.340
and solicited our feedback
as the program developed.
02:38:22.340 --> 02:38:24.630
And we're excited to
see the significant focus
02:38:24.630 --> 02:38:27.816
of in equity communities.
02:38:27.816 --> 02:38:30.860
So Commissioner I hope our
advocacy supported your goals
02:38:30.860 --> 02:38:31.963
with that program.
02:38:32.956 --> 02:38:36.460
So in some, those are
kind of the themes of all
02:38:36.460 --> 02:38:38.920
the work that we did in a
lot of different proceedings.
02:38:38.920 --> 02:38:42.227
And I feel that in the
past year of the DACAG
02:38:42.227 --> 02:38:45.653
has very effectively
served the PUC, the CEC.
02:38:47.010 --> 02:38:50.020
And most importantly, the
communities that we represent
02:38:50.020 --> 02:38:53.220
in these energy policy conversations,
02:38:53.220 --> 02:38:55.800
and certainly hope
you feel the same way.
02:38:55.800 --> 02:38:58.680
And we're looking
forward to the current term
02:38:58.680 --> 02:39:01.530
that runs through Q1 of next year.
02:39:01.530 --> 02:39:03.260
So next slide please.
02:39:03.260 --> 02:39:06.730
And I'll just, won't go
through these in detail,
02:39:06.730 --> 02:39:09.893
but again here, the topic areas
02:39:09.893 --> 02:39:12.803
that we adopted earlier this year,
02:39:13.940 --> 02:39:15.723
that we are focusing on,
02:39:17.850 --> 02:39:20.640
through the treatment next year.
02:39:20.640 --> 02:39:21.473
So,
02:39:23.591 --> 02:39:25.370
a lot of them will cover existing
02:39:26.530 --> 02:39:28.893
and future proceedings, I'm sure.
02:39:30.030 --> 02:39:31.643
Next Slide please.
02:39:35.140 --> 02:39:40.140
So moving forward, we wann
continue working with you
02:39:42.330 --> 02:39:44.320
to integrate the decades
equity framework
02:39:44.320 --> 02:39:45.993
in existing programs.
02:39:47.100 --> 02:39:49.300
The ongoing energy and
transportation proceedings,
02:39:49.300 --> 02:39:51.690
as we've done in past years.
02:39:51.690 --> 02:39:54.730
We appreciate that the
DACAG equity framework
02:39:54.730 --> 02:39:59.440
that Angela referenced has
actually been incorporated
02:39:59.440 --> 02:40:04.420
and adopted in part within the
02:40:04.420 --> 02:40:05.790
your own environmental
02:40:05.790 --> 02:40:07.790
and social justice action plan.
02:40:07.790 --> 02:40:12.250
And we understand that that
plan is being updated this year
02:40:12.250 --> 02:40:14.170
so that we added to our priority area.
02:40:14.170 --> 02:40:17.680
We wanna work with that team, Kathleen
02:40:17.680 --> 02:40:20.690
and the others who
are leading that effort
02:40:21.630 --> 02:40:23.883
to update that plan.
02:40:25.390 --> 02:40:30.373
And I think more specifically,
we wanna continue to,
02:40:31.370 --> 02:40:36.370
having a plan is one huge
major step forward, right?
02:40:36.730 --> 02:40:38.180
To getting where we wanna go.
02:40:39.150 --> 02:40:43.750
For us, it's how do we
ensure that plan is activated,
02:40:43.750 --> 02:40:46.590
is institutionalized
as much as possible.
02:40:46.590 --> 02:40:49.920
If that's a word I can
use here within kind of
02:40:49.920 --> 02:40:52.590
the DNA of the Commission.
02:40:52.590 --> 02:40:55.050
So how do we use that plan as a filter
02:40:55.050 --> 02:40:59.620
for conversations that we
have around all of our programs
02:40:59.620 --> 02:41:01.600
the proceeding, the proposed
decisions that come out,
02:41:01.600 --> 02:41:03.900
the final decisions that are adopted.
02:41:03.900 --> 02:41:06.510
Have we, how can we ask ourselves
02:41:06.510 --> 02:41:10.340
to everyone at every step
of the way at your level,
02:41:10.340 --> 02:41:13.740
at the staff level, ALJs all folks
02:41:13.740 --> 02:41:15.340
knowing that this plan exists,
02:41:15.340 --> 02:41:17.880
knowing that we have
equity goals that you have
02:41:17.880 --> 02:41:20.130
adopted your own equity, environmental
02:41:20.130 --> 02:41:24.860
and social justice plan
and ensure that it is centered
02:41:24.860 --> 02:41:27.593
in every conversation
that you are having.
02:41:28.480 --> 02:41:31.360
We wanna help with
that, we know it takes time.
02:41:31.360 --> 02:41:33.973
We wanna expedite that, make it a,
02:41:34.970 --> 02:41:37.670
as much as we can in
the next year, we know,
02:41:37.670 --> 02:41:40.517
realistically changing culture and,
02:41:42.200 --> 02:41:44.430
bringing this new concept in requires,
02:41:44.430 --> 02:41:47.360
it does require more
time, but we are an active
02:41:47.360 --> 02:41:50.380
and supportive body to help with that.
02:41:50.380 --> 02:41:53.290
So use us for that as well.
02:41:53.290 --> 02:41:54.940
But I want to thank you again for
02:41:57.690 --> 02:42:01.370
all of your work with us
and for hearing us here
02:42:01.370 --> 02:42:04.020
in our communities and
really integrating a lot
02:42:04.020 --> 02:42:08.000
of what we collaborated on into some
02:42:08.000 --> 02:42:10.060
of the programs and decisions
that came out this past year.
02:42:10.060 --> 02:42:10.893
So thank you.
02:42:15.120 --> 02:42:17.210
Thank you very
much, Stan and Angela
02:42:17.210 --> 02:42:20.280
do any of the
Commissioners have questions
02:42:20.280 --> 02:42:22.473
or comments for Stan and Angela?
02:42:23.880 --> 02:42:26.640
Well, Commissioner
Rechtschaffen I would really
02:42:26.640 --> 02:42:30.130
want to thank Stan and
Angela for all of their hard work.
02:42:30.130 --> 02:42:32.270
The presentation was excellent
02:42:32.270 --> 02:42:35.790
and I was thinking of my own priorities
02:42:35.790 --> 02:42:39.213
and they're (laugh) very
much in alignment with yours.
02:42:40.390 --> 02:42:44.050
And I really thank you very much for
02:42:44.050 --> 02:42:47.590
this hard work and important work.
02:42:47.590 --> 02:42:50.793
So no questions at this time now.
02:42:52.340 --> 02:42:54.653
I think Commissioner
Randolph has a question.
02:42:57.080 --> 02:42:58.450
thank you.
02:42:58.450 --> 02:43:00.100
I guess a comment and a question.
02:43:01.208 --> 02:43:06.208
It's amazing how much
work this group has on,
02:43:08.410 --> 02:43:12.215
voluntary basis donating
your time and effort
02:43:12.215 --> 02:43:16.330
to bring these perspectives
to our proceedings.
02:43:16.330 --> 02:43:19.110
It's just, incredibly valuable.
02:43:19.110 --> 02:43:23.530
And, and it's just such a
personal and individual gift
02:43:23.530 --> 02:43:26.670
from each of you to the
people of the state of California.
02:43:26.670 --> 02:43:29.773
So I can't express how
much I appreciate that.
02:43:30.900 --> 02:43:35.900
I do have one question in
terms of when you all decide sort
02:43:36.220 --> 02:43:39.070
of which proceedings do
you want to get engaged in
02:43:39.070 --> 02:43:43.853
and sort of the more
active in, do you kind of,
02:43:46.010 --> 02:43:48.030
do it based on kind of subject matter,
02:43:48.030 --> 02:43:50.330
or do you try to kind
of target proceedings
02:43:50.330 --> 02:43:51.550
that may have less
02:43:51.550 --> 02:43:56.550
of a disadvantaged community
level of engagement already?
02:43:57.150 --> 02:43:59.710
'Cause you know, some
proceedings we have,
02:43:59.710 --> 02:44:01.920
get a lot of broad community engagement
02:44:01.920 --> 02:44:03.340
and others, I just feel like,
02:44:03.340 --> 02:44:05.410
my gosh, I'm trying to
get people's attention.
02:44:05.410 --> 02:44:09.350
So I'm just curious as
whether or not you factor that
02:44:09.350 --> 02:44:12.043
into deciding what
you wanna engage with.
02:44:15.260 --> 02:44:19.430
Yes, and we need
your help with that too
02:44:20.590 --> 02:44:25.253
because we do have, as
the DACAG members we,
02:44:26.580 --> 02:44:30.480
several of us are involved
in different proceedings
02:44:30.480 --> 02:44:32.700
and different issues
within the Commission
02:44:32.700 --> 02:44:35.730
but we don't cover them all
02:44:35.730 --> 02:44:39.130
we do and this is kind of
the symbiotic relationship
02:44:39.130 --> 02:44:42.380
that we have that is
most helpful for us,
02:44:42.380 --> 02:44:44.470
is when you come to us
Commissioner Randolph
02:44:44.470 --> 02:44:48.440
and say, look I have this issue.
02:44:48.440 --> 02:44:51.633
I have this topic that I would like,
02:44:52.870 --> 02:44:55.980
some equity considerations
for just some feedback
02:44:55.980 --> 02:44:58.350
or just some sharing of ideas
02:44:58.350 --> 02:45:01.790
around how to make this
program more accessible to
02:45:02.870 --> 02:45:06.080
different customers here.
02:45:06.080 --> 02:45:09.100
And if we get that request from you
02:45:09.100 --> 02:45:11.370
that goes then moves
up to a priority for us,
02:45:11.370 --> 02:45:14.160
because we wanna engage
where you wanna engage us.
02:45:14.160 --> 02:45:17.700
In addition to the places
where we as a group
02:45:17.700 --> 02:45:20.120
kind of know more, right.
02:45:20.120 --> 02:45:22.330
And we're, so we do have subgroups
02:45:22.330 --> 02:45:25.830
for each of the topic
areas that we covered
02:45:25.830 --> 02:45:28.290
and we do our best to dive
02:45:28.290 --> 02:45:31.982
into all of those as
much as we know or can.
02:45:31.982 --> 02:45:32.815
And that's what I was saying,
02:45:32.815 --> 02:45:35.330
like your staff, your advisors
02:45:35.330 --> 02:45:38.480
and the PUC team coming
into our meetings saying,
02:45:38.480 --> 02:45:42.400
hey here's a topic that
we're going to have a decision
02:45:42.400 --> 02:45:43.757
on and we're having a workshop on
02:45:43.757 --> 02:45:47.253
and we just need some
equity perspective in that.
02:45:48.140 --> 02:45:50.863
How can we take it up
into DACAG conversation
02:45:50.863 --> 02:45:53.400
and get a presentation
and have a conversation?
02:45:53.400 --> 02:45:55.680
That's we welcome that.
02:45:55.680 --> 02:46:00.640
Or we can, engage in
workshops you have as well
02:46:00.640 --> 02:46:03.500
but please come to us
if you have that thought
02:46:03.500 --> 02:46:04.650
and you're not getting,
02:46:05.580 --> 02:46:10.160
comments from diverse
parties that you're seeing.
02:46:10.160 --> 02:46:13.433
I think that's where that's
our job, right, as advisors is.
02:46:14.280 --> 02:46:16.730
And that's our role is you
can come to us and say
02:46:17.800 --> 02:46:19.150
let's just share some ideas here
02:46:19.150 --> 02:46:22.000
and he wouldn't come up with
02:46:22.000 --> 02:46:24.420
but that is, we like it when we get that
02:46:24.420 --> 02:46:25.280
'cause that makes our job easier.
02:46:25.280 --> 02:46:27.540
We don't have to try
to force ourselves in
02:46:28.450 --> 02:46:30.900
and you're inviting us in.
02:46:30.900 --> 02:46:32.870
So thank you for the question.
Great, thank you.
02:46:32.870 --> 02:46:35.470
Both ways we're finding
our own, but invite us in.
02:46:36.730 --> 02:46:38.130
Thank you, that's helpful.
02:46:48.750 --> 02:46:52.360
Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
is anyone else speaking or?
02:46:52.360 --> 02:46:55.540
Commissioner Shiroma
had her hand up, I think.
02:46:55.540 --> 02:46:56.373
Okay.
02:46:57.840 --> 02:47:01.133
Okay, yes thank you.
02:47:01.133 --> 02:47:04.307
Thank you, Chair and Vice Chair.
02:47:04.307 --> 02:47:09.307
I wanna add my appreciation
that what you are doing
02:47:09.557 --> 02:47:14.557
and the rest of the advisory
group is on volunteer time.
02:47:15.870 --> 02:47:20.060
And I understand that
you meet pretty frequently
02:47:20.060 --> 02:47:25.030
and there's a lot that you're
doing in a volunteer basis.
02:47:25.030 --> 02:47:27.110
But it is essential.
02:47:27.110 --> 02:47:28.460
And I also appreciate that,
02:47:29.333 --> 02:47:31.030
that there is the partnership
02:47:31.030 --> 02:47:34.483
with our Sister Agency,
the Energy Commission.
02:47:35.491 --> 02:47:39.000
And so you may be aware
02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:44.000
that I'm the Commission's
designee or appointee
02:47:44.190 --> 02:47:46.690
to the Low Income Oversight Board.
02:47:46.690 --> 02:47:51.690
And the Low Income Oversight
Board also has 11 members
02:47:52.345 --> 02:47:56.583
and they were appointed
to fulfill various categories.
02:47:57.460 --> 02:48:00.890
And their focus is
advising the Commission
02:48:00.890 --> 02:48:03.933
on the care in ISA proceedings.
02:48:04.980 --> 02:48:08.670
There's also a last line update to that,
02:48:08.670 --> 02:48:10.870
but it's on care and you said.
02:48:10.870 --> 02:48:15.060
And then there's another
advisory group that I'm affiliated
02:48:15.060 --> 02:48:19.463
with and that's the Universal
Lifeline Advisory Committee
02:48:21.990 --> 02:48:25.390
and Lifeline of course a
discount, a phone service.
02:48:25.390 --> 02:48:27.820
And we just put it out a few months ago
02:48:28.750 --> 02:48:32.330
a broadband option for lifeline.
02:48:32.330 --> 02:48:36.720
So in your charter, I see that
02:48:36.720 --> 02:48:41.720
one of the key areas is
to advise the Commission
02:48:42.310 --> 02:48:45.830
on maintaining or
enhancing the affordability
02:48:45.830 --> 02:48:49.560
of energy services in
disadvantaged communities
02:48:49.560 --> 02:48:51.350
by considering a potential rate passed
02:48:51.350 --> 02:48:53.513
on any proposed program.
02:48:55.320 --> 02:48:57.706
So simple and so essential.
02:48:57.706 --> 02:48:59.610
(laugh)
02:48:59.610 --> 02:49:04.610
Something that absolutely
must be in our DNA
02:49:05.150 --> 02:49:08.530
always be looking at
what we are adopting out.
02:49:08.530 --> 02:49:13.530
We've got number of
tools occurring on all of that
02:49:13.970 --> 02:49:17.770
but I understand that
there's been some interest
02:49:18.630 --> 02:49:21.930
in the past about our
current ISA proceeding.
02:49:21.930 --> 02:49:26.480
And then also in your 2021 initiative
02:49:26.480 --> 02:49:30.280
you include broadband
02:49:31.260 --> 02:49:35.670
and broadband telecom.
02:49:35.670 --> 02:49:38.750
So this is my somewhat
long-winded way of saying that
02:49:41.680 --> 02:49:46.680
I we offer to help be the link to
02:49:48.040 --> 02:49:50.440
the activities of the Low
Income Oversight Board
02:49:50.440 --> 02:49:54.340
and the Universal Lifeline
Advisory Committee
02:49:54.340 --> 02:49:59.340
towards synergies, towards learning
02:49:59.420 --> 02:50:01.480
what else needs to be done
02:50:01.480 --> 02:50:03.400
for the disadvantaged communities.
02:50:03.400 --> 02:50:06.750
Is there anything that we are missing
02:50:06.750 --> 02:50:11.750
or is there any addition
information to share on the focuses
02:50:13.510 --> 02:50:16.560
on what each of those
advisory groups are doing
02:50:16.560 --> 02:50:21.290
in terms of the focus
score the 2021 year?
02:50:21.290 --> 02:50:25.183
So I offer that and
02:50:27.590 --> 02:50:30.020
overall, I look forward
02:50:30.020 --> 02:50:34.210
to working with you and I'll
end with simply saying that
02:50:35.720 --> 02:50:39.150
on the environmental social
justice plan of the Commission
02:50:39.150 --> 02:50:43.150
of my proceedings have
folded in the nine principles
02:50:44.040 --> 02:50:48.140
into the pending, including
the care ISA receding
02:50:48.140 --> 02:50:50.093
and number of rail proceedings as well.
02:50:51.030 --> 02:50:54.830
And we received a presentation recently
02:50:54.830 --> 02:50:58.900
from actually Sarah Lerhaupt within
02:50:59.740 --> 02:51:03.780
Commission Guzman Aceves to who
02:51:04.760 --> 02:51:06.590
and spearheaded this effort.
02:51:06.590 --> 02:51:10.850
And our goal is to
infuse those principles
02:51:10.850 --> 02:51:15.240
into all of our
proceedings as you outline.
02:51:15.240 --> 02:51:17.770
So anyway, I look forward to,
02:51:17.770 --> 02:51:22.770
I'll be reaching out to
you and to vice Chair Islas
02:51:23.800 --> 02:51:26.930
to see if there are some synergies
02:51:26.930 --> 02:51:31.930
and coordination with the
other two advisory groups.
02:51:33.290 --> 02:51:36.930
Not to add on to more
of your volunteer times
02:51:38.791 --> 02:51:41.180
I will really be sensitive
and cotton and respectful
02:51:41.180 --> 02:51:44.510
of that, but whether there
might be some synergies.
02:51:44.510 --> 02:51:47.923
So thank you very much
for your service, both of you.
02:51:49.910 --> 02:51:52.070
Thank you and we
certainly welcome that.
02:51:52.070 --> 02:51:54.940
And yeah, we know
there's others out there.
02:51:54.940 --> 02:51:56.700
So we do try to divide
02:51:56.700 --> 02:51:58.980
and conquer a little bit here where
02:51:58.980 --> 02:52:01.370
we don't spend as much
time on each area and care,
02:52:01.370 --> 02:52:03.610
there's huge and beneficial programs
02:52:03.610 --> 02:52:06.510
to the disadvantaged
communities because we know
02:52:06.510 --> 02:52:09.710
that the Oversight
Board does specifically
02:52:09.710 --> 02:52:10.940
focus on that.
02:52:12.090 --> 02:52:13.550
So, but yeah, and all
the other issues are
02:52:13.550 --> 02:52:15.240
we should definitely coordinate
02:52:15.240 --> 02:52:17.631
and talk about how we
can best support you.
02:52:17.631 --> 02:52:20.367
And the other under
their advisory groups.
02:52:23.500 --> 02:52:27.970
Okay, well, thank
you, Stan and Angela
02:52:27.970 --> 02:52:29.640
again for your presentation
02:52:29.640 --> 02:52:31.940
and thanks for
recognizing all the support
02:52:31.940 --> 02:52:34.580
from the staff across both countries,
02:52:34.580 --> 02:52:39.580
it really has kind of seeing
the progress in the group
02:52:40.690 --> 02:52:43.640
and their ability to really
have tougher dialogues
02:52:43.640 --> 02:52:45.923
and be more prepared.
02:52:47.220 --> 02:52:48.970
Yeah, I was thinking about
02:52:48.970 --> 02:52:51.550
I know we're gonna have
a follow-up discussion
02:52:51.550 --> 02:52:53.640
with the Energy Commission as well.
02:52:53.640 --> 02:52:57.720
With a group on
priorities for next year.
02:52:57.720 --> 02:53:00.110
And just as a reflection
02:53:00.110 --> 02:53:02.860
from a question that
Commissioner Randolph asks
02:53:02.860 --> 02:53:06.600
in terms of, what
does it do you look at it
02:53:06.600 --> 02:53:09.210
in terms of a proceeding that's lacking
02:53:10.480 --> 02:53:13.120
capacity from the dispatch community
02:53:13.120 --> 02:53:17.410
or just an issue area
that's a high priority?
02:53:17.410 --> 02:53:19.320
And it doesn't have to
be either, or of course
02:53:19.320 --> 02:53:22.140
but actually just as an example,
02:53:22.140 --> 02:53:25.630
in the proceedings
that I have in looking
02:53:25.630 --> 02:53:30.630
at those that are in your
2020 identified priority areas,
02:53:31.480 --> 02:53:33.703
it's just to use that lens,
02:53:35.170 --> 02:53:40.170
in the COVID-19 response,
which is a very big priority.
02:53:40.220 --> 02:53:42.740
There are a substantial amount
02:53:42.740 --> 02:53:46.860
of parties that are participating.
02:53:46.860 --> 02:53:49.163
Of course always could do more,
02:53:50.580 --> 02:53:53.170
but it's a good example of to me where
02:53:55.100 --> 02:53:59.727
as compared to let's say
the net energy metering 3.0
02:54:00.640 --> 02:54:03.640
where I don't yet see a lot of
02:54:03.640 --> 02:54:07.260
organizations like yourselves engaged.
02:54:07.260 --> 02:54:09.390
Well, I guess with really the exception
02:54:09.390 --> 02:54:11.090
of you guys in particular (laugh),
02:54:14.090 --> 02:54:16.920
but in general, that's
it, from my perspective,
02:54:16.920 --> 02:54:20.390
I would anticipate seeing a need
02:54:20.390 --> 02:54:22.640
for more dialogue for a proceeding
02:54:22.640 --> 02:54:26.420
like 3.0 that might lack that kind of
02:54:27.370 --> 02:54:30.033
traditional line trajectory,
02:54:31.070 --> 02:54:32.790
versus like a COVID.
02:54:32.790 --> 02:54:35.890
So just as an example,
and I think we're gonna
02:54:35.890 --> 02:54:38.670
continue to look at our
proceedings obviously but
02:54:38.670 --> 02:54:41.666
I was very much like to
engage in the DACAG,
02:54:41.666 --> 02:54:45.210
the DACAG, sorry, keep
intimations of the acronym
02:54:45.210 --> 02:54:49.007
are different the DACAG on then 3.0
02:54:50.346 --> 02:54:52.490
because I do think there are real value
02:54:52.490 --> 02:54:54.480
that the group could add there
02:54:54.480 --> 02:54:58.450
and would look forward to
seeing how best to structure that
02:54:58.450 --> 02:55:01.833
in discussions with,
everybody involved in that.
02:55:02.680 --> 02:55:04.650
And then I would just say that
02:55:06.114 --> 02:55:08.610
the one thing we just
discussed yesterday
02:55:08.610 --> 02:55:11.350
is the silver lining of COVID,
02:55:11.350 --> 02:55:14.957
which is that our communications with
02:55:14.957 --> 02:55:18.020
the public have actually
expanded ironically
02:55:18.020 --> 02:55:20.470
with meaningful,
would it be virtual as well
02:55:20.470 --> 02:55:25.470
as other practices in our
proceeding engagement.
02:55:25.880 --> 02:55:28.730
And this is an area
that I think you all would
02:55:28.730 --> 02:55:31.000
have tremendous input on.
02:55:31.000 --> 02:55:32.890
I know just in talking about some
02:55:32.890 --> 02:55:36.710
of the program
implementation difficulties
02:55:36.710 --> 02:55:38.690
that have occurred with COVID, it's
02:55:39.895 --> 02:55:42.140
the DACAG has been a good venue to
02:55:42.140 --> 02:55:43.980
work through some of those.
02:55:43.980 --> 02:55:47.290
And likewise, I hope that the DACAG
02:55:47.290 --> 02:55:49.023
can really think through,
02:55:51.820 --> 02:55:55.433
what are the practices
that we can improve upon?
02:55:56.600 --> 02:56:00.620
The practices we can keep
that we've, we're utilizing?
02:56:00.620 --> 02:56:03.070
And you guys I know are involved
02:56:03.070 --> 02:56:05.730
in so many other, I know Angela
02:56:05.730 --> 02:56:09.690
you particularly have so
much experience advocating
02:56:09.690 --> 02:56:11.170
throughout local governments
02:56:11.170 --> 02:56:16.140
and regional Air Districts
and you know, other venues.
02:56:16.140 --> 02:56:20.040
So I know you could speak
to what are the best practices
02:56:20.040 --> 02:56:23.870
that you've seen elsewhere
that we may consider.
02:56:23.870 --> 02:56:27.440
So I would say those
are kind of two topics
02:56:27.440 --> 02:56:31.228
that I would hope that we
can engage the DACAG on
02:56:31.228 --> 02:56:34.790
into next year, but also,
02:56:34.790 --> 02:56:38.680
would wanna get more
feedback from my colleagues
02:56:38.680 --> 02:56:42.220
at the course and continue
that dialogue when we meet
02:56:42.220 --> 02:56:44.537
with somebody and the CEC.
02:56:46.678 --> 02:56:50.080
And thank you again for all of your time
02:56:50.080 --> 02:56:54.453
and dedication to the to
these efforts, thank you.
02:56:58.930 --> 02:57:01.380
Thank you Angela did
you have any thing to say?
02:57:03.560 --> 02:57:05.690
No, I just, I appreciate
02:57:05.690 --> 02:57:08.790
Commissioners Guzman
Aceves for bringing that up
02:57:08.790 --> 02:57:12.000
because I know that
definitely this year has been
02:57:13.110 --> 02:57:18.110
quite a very tremendous
shift in not only a lot of,
02:57:19.850 --> 02:57:21.323
the prioritization of,
02:57:23.280 --> 02:57:27.320
what the DACAG is able
to pour the Commissions on
02:57:27.320 --> 02:57:29.900
but definitely that it
was a massive shift
02:57:29.900 --> 02:57:32.420
with public participation and,
02:57:32.420 --> 02:57:35.800
trying to understand
this new kind of world
02:57:35.800 --> 02:57:42.370
that we're in of remote
access and then, defining,
02:57:42.370 --> 02:57:45.570
equity through a space such as this.
02:57:45.570 --> 02:57:50.320
And so I think that, the things that all
02:57:50.320 --> 02:57:53.060
of these Commissioners
bring to us is you know
02:57:53.060 --> 02:57:55.740
that our priorities will shift a lot.
02:57:55.740 --> 02:57:57.330
And I know that Stan
02:57:57.330 --> 02:58:00.010
and I definitely had a
massive challenge this year
02:58:00.010 --> 02:58:03.060
trying to figure out our prioritization
02:58:03.060 --> 02:58:06.360
and ensuring that we are
keeping our prioritization
02:58:06.360 --> 02:58:10.960
of topics, very at the forefront.
02:58:10.960 --> 02:58:15.080
And I know that definitely
many of those can have
02:58:16.390 --> 02:58:20.560
COVID-19 relief topics being included
02:58:20.560 --> 02:58:22.610
with many of our priorities.
02:58:22.610 --> 02:58:26.210
And there might be some that we'll have
02:58:26.210 --> 02:58:29.900
to try to maybe consider to, kind of,
02:58:29.900 --> 02:58:33.330
put on hold, because
definitely, I think that
02:58:33.330 --> 02:58:36.660
we want to prioritize what's
what's going on currently
02:58:36.660 --> 02:58:39.900
and wanna make sure
that also like our entire group
02:58:39.900 --> 02:58:44.310
is able to bring that to us
as well and make us aware
02:58:44.310 --> 02:58:49.190
of the things that we need to
keep in mind moving forward.
02:58:49.190 --> 02:58:53.620
So definitely I appreciate you all for,
02:58:53.620 --> 02:58:57.223
giving us this feedback and really,
02:58:58.270 --> 02:59:02.430
also challenging us
as Chairs in this group
02:59:02.430 --> 02:59:04.220
to make sure that we, that
02:59:05.703 --> 02:59:07.513
we are keeping these real time,
02:59:09.600 --> 02:59:12.570
moments in mind for us to
really make sure that we were
02:59:12.570 --> 02:59:13.650
that we're keeping up.
02:59:13.650 --> 02:59:17.590
And we, I definitely
do want to make sure
02:59:17.590 --> 02:59:22.590
that I put my most
gratitude to you all for, really,
02:59:24.330 --> 02:59:28.490
being with us during this year
and, supporting us as much
02:59:28.490 --> 02:59:31.360
as we can to really continue the work
02:59:31.360 --> 02:59:33.237
that we do in this committee.
02:59:33.237 --> 02:59:36.980
And to help serve you
all, to continue pushing
02:59:36.980 --> 02:59:41.070
for cleaner energy and for
more equitable transitions
02:59:41.070 --> 02:59:43.026
for all of our disadvantaged communities
02:59:43.026 --> 02:59:44.190
throughout the state of California.
02:59:44.190 --> 02:59:46.810
So I really wanna make
sure that I say that to you all
02:59:46.810 --> 02:59:48.220
and I really wanna thank you all.
02:59:48.220 --> 02:59:52.420
And I really wanna commend
you all for the support.
02:59:52.420 --> 02:59:55.100
So really happy to be here with you all
02:59:55.100 --> 02:59:56.950
even though we couldn't be in person.
03:00:02.200 --> 03:00:03.103
Well thank you.
03:00:04.482 --> 03:00:05.777
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
I just, (indistinct) that
03:00:05.777 --> 03:00:08.030
advice, there's two quick points
03:00:08.970 --> 03:00:12.470
that the DACAG gets
actually issued a report
03:00:12.470 --> 03:00:15.500
that I was, we will post it online.
03:00:15.500 --> 03:00:17.700
We'll post it on the CPUC
03:00:17.700 --> 03:00:20.180
Disadvantaged Communities
Advisory Group webpage,
03:00:20.180 --> 03:00:21.700
it's not there now.
03:00:21.700 --> 03:00:24.630
I don't think, but we
will make sure to post it,
03:00:24.630 --> 03:00:27.300
it's it provides more
detail about what's Stan
03:00:27.300 --> 03:00:30.930
and Angela, just reported
and it's a very good report.
03:00:30.930 --> 03:00:34.160
And secondly, there is a
meeting tomorrow of the DACAG
03:00:34.160 --> 03:00:37.750
at 1:00 p.m. and the agenda
is on the DACAG's website
03:00:37.750 --> 03:00:40.130
among the issues that
the committee will be
03:00:40.130 --> 03:00:43.840
considering our metrics and definitions.
03:00:43.840 --> 03:00:47.150
Thank you again, Stan and Angela
03:00:47.150 --> 03:00:49.610
for your presentation
and all your hard work.
03:00:50.770 --> 03:00:52.937
Yes, thank you very, very much.
03:00:52.937 --> 03:00:55.500
Very helpful, thank you very much.
03:00:55.500 --> 03:01:00.500
And cliff, thank you for
your, and we'll look forward
03:01:01.800 --> 03:01:03.733
to putting in the link up.
03:01:05.310 --> 03:01:09.470
Okay, thank you now, do we
have other Commissioner reports?
03:01:09.470 --> 03:01:12.120
I believe Liane you have
a report you'd like to make
03:01:14.440 --> 03:01:19.440
Yes, I wanted to cover
two topics in my report.
03:01:20.520 --> 03:01:23.620
First, I wanted to alert you
to a joint agency workshop
03:01:23.620 --> 03:01:28.620
on SB100 on December
4th, from 9:30 to 12:30.
03:01:29.760 --> 03:01:33.280
The joint agency team of the
CPUC, the Energy Commission
03:01:33.280 --> 03:01:36.550
and the Air Resources
Board, will present an overview
03:01:36.550 --> 03:01:38.663
of the SB100 draft report,
03:01:39.900 --> 03:01:42.010
that will summarize
the modeling results.
03:01:42.010 --> 03:01:44.520
The key takeaways from the assessment,
03:01:44.520 --> 03:01:46.470
next steps for analytical work
03:01:46.470 --> 03:01:49.393
and recommended actions on SB100.
03:01:51.010 --> 03:01:54.570
Well also here from the California
Natural Resources Agency
03:01:54.570 --> 03:01:57.450
and the California
Balancing Authorities.
03:01:57.450 --> 03:02:01.310
And of course we will
be taking public comment
03:02:01.310 --> 03:02:04.560
and the SB100 principals
will be sharing their
03:02:04.560 --> 03:02:07.140
thoughts about next steps.
03:02:07.140 --> 03:02:09.890
So all of you should
have already received
03:02:09.890 --> 03:02:11.930
a calendar invite for this event
03:02:11.930 --> 03:02:15.333
and I hope you're able to
attend on December 4th.
03:02:17.350 --> 03:02:22.350
And then the second thing
I wanted to talk about is
03:02:23.170 --> 03:02:26.240
sort of the incredible announcement that
03:02:26.240 --> 03:02:30.470
Governor Newson made
earlier this week with regard
03:02:30.470 --> 03:02:33.973
to the Klamath Hydroelectric
Settlement Agreement.
03:02:36.470 --> 03:02:40.210
This issue has come up a few
times before the Commission
03:02:41.400 --> 03:02:43.830
but I think it's important
to kind of take a moment
03:02:43.830 --> 03:02:46.920
and sort of talk a little
bit about the history
03:02:47.815 --> 03:02:50.313
of how we got to this place.
03:02:52.473 --> 03:02:56.360
There are four dams
03:02:56.360 --> 03:02:59.480
that are the focus of this work,
03:02:59.480 --> 03:03:01.960
the Iron Gate, Copco one, Copco two
03:03:01.960 --> 03:03:05.310
and J.C. Boyle Dams
in Oregon and California.
03:03:05.310 --> 03:03:09.320
They were built between
1908 and the 1950s.
03:03:09.320 --> 03:03:13.470
And they have caused
an unbelievable amount
03:03:13.470 --> 03:03:18.470
of devastation to the ecosystem
and to the communities
03:03:19.250 --> 03:03:22.430
in the Klamath Basin and
03:03:23.290 --> 03:03:27.700
in the physical structures.
03:03:27.700 --> 03:03:30.660
But also the water
management in that area
03:03:30.660 --> 03:03:32.963
has just been devastating.
03:03:33.900 --> 03:03:38.000
In 2002, the Bush administration
03:03:39.050 --> 03:03:44.050
authorized agricultural
releases that resulted in
03:03:44.740 --> 03:03:49.200
over 60,000 salmon being killed.
03:03:49.200 --> 03:03:52.490
And it was really that
event that catalyzed
03:03:52.490 --> 03:03:56.640
the most recent
opposition to these dams.
03:03:56.640 --> 03:03:59.990
And to clear, the tribes
in that area have opposed
03:03:59.990 --> 03:04:01.283
these dams for years,
03:04:02.120 --> 03:04:05.980
but that event was really catalyzed
03:04:05.980 --> 03:04:09.493
and sparked a movement
that continues to this day.
03:04:10.870 --> 03:04:13.890
Tribal members went
to Scotland to protest
03:04:13.890 --> 03:04:17.973
at the offices of the then
company that owned Pacific Corp,
03:04:18.960 --> 03:04:20.880
which owns the dams.
03:04:20.880 --> 03:04:21.713
And,
03:04:24.000 --> 03:04:28.120
litigation was filed,
then Berkshire Hathaway
03:04:28.120 --> 03:04:32.100
purchased Pacific Corp and the tribes
03:04:32.100 --> 03:04:36.080
and activists protested it
at, Warren Buffett's office.
03:04:36.080 --> 03:04:39.127
And, that movement has
03:04:39.127 --> 03:04:44.127
just continued to work hard
and gained steam over the years.
03:04:45.340 --> 03:04:48.023
And in 2010, it culminated in the
03:04:49.530 --> 03:04:51.660
Klamath Hydroelectric
Settlement Agreement.
03:04:51.660 --> 03:04:54.840
That was the result of
03:04:55.840 --> 03:04:59.350
years of negotiation
between the Klamath tribes,
03:04:59.350 --> 03:05:03.740
the Yurok, the Karuk
conservation organizations
03:05:03.740 --> 03:05:05.243
like Trout Unlimited,
03:05:08.110 --> 03:05:11.460
state of California, state of Oregon.
03:05:11.460 --> 03:05:16.250
And just resulted in what
we thought at the time
03:05:16.250 --> 03:05:19.840
was gonna be a durable framework.
03:05:19.840 --> 03:05:22.463
It was signed by
Governor Schwartzenegger.
03:05:23.350 --> 03:05:28.120
And when I joined the Natural
Resources Agency in 2011,
03:05:28.120 --> 03:05:31.792
we were in full implementation
mode trying to get
03:05:31.792 --> 03:05:36.792
the agreement implemented and finished.
03:05:37.080 --> 03:05:40.300
And unfortunately it,
one of the components
03:05:40.300 --> 03:05:43.300
of the agreement
required federal legislation
03:05:43.300 --> 03:05:44.930
and federal action.
03:05:44.930 --> 03:05:45.773
And,
03:05:47.860 --> 03:05:49.527
health Secretary Laird used to say,
03:05:49.527 --> 03:05:53.667
"It's always risky to make
a deal that has one of the
03:05:53.667 --> 03:05:56.393
"the parties that needs
to take action, not be,
03:05:57.747 --> 03:05:58.610
"at the table."
03:05:58.610 --> 03:06:01.010
And unfortunately,
Congress is not at the table.
03:06:02.420 --> 03:06:07.420
And a lot of Republican
congressmen frankly
03:06:07.510 --> 03:06:10.610
were not supportive of this legislation.
03:06:10.610 --> 03:06:14.420
And the parties kind
of had to shift gears
03:06:14.420 --> 03:06:19.420
and the settlement agreement
was amended in 2016.
03:06:21.183 --> 03:06:23.500
This Commission approved that amendment.
03:06:23.500 --> 03:06:28.500
It involves the creation
of the Klamath river
03:06:28.540 --> 03:06:30.970
renewal corporation
that would take ownership
03:06:30.970 --> 03:06:33.683
of the dams and do the removal.
03:06:34.600 --> 03:06:39.450
And the KARC and Pacific court filed a
03:06:39.450 --> 03:06:43.940
an application to surrender the license
03:06:43.940 --> 03:06:48.120
at FERC from Pacific Corp to the KARC.
03:06:48.120 --> 03:06:53.120
And then this past summer
FERC granted the transfer
03:06:53.900 --> 03:06:56.943
but insisted that Pacific
Corp stay on the license.
03:06:58.070 --> 03:07:02.620
And that was just a
huge moment of reckoning
03:07:02.620 --> 03:07:07.620
because Pacific Corp really
wanted to be able to walk away
03:07:07.970 --> 03:07:10.350
and no longer have any responsibility.
03:07:10.350 --> 03:07:13.570
And they filed
03:07:16.000 --> 03:07:17.390
a basically a notice saying
03:07:17.390 --> 03:07:19.090
that that would be a terminable event
03:07:19.090 --> 03:07:20.480
and it needed to trigger a meet
03:07:20.480 --> 03:07:22.540
and confer amongst the parties.
03:07:22.540 --> 03:07:24.230
And I'll be really honest.
03:07:24.230 --> 03:07:26.840
I was very worried
03:07:28.130 --> 03:07:31.380
and the parties again, for,
03:07:31.380 --> 03:07:33.840
over and over again,
these, these folks have
03:07:33.840 --> 03:07:37.430
worked so hard to make
this agreement happen.
03:07:37.430 --> 03:07:43.210
They, once again got
together and Governor Newsom
03:07:43.210 --> 03:07:44.650
and Governor Brown
03:07:45.570 --> 03:07:50.530
managed to pull in
finally, Berkshire Hathaway
03:07:50.530 --> 03:07:54.850
and get them to understand
as the owners of Pacific Corp
03:07:54.850 --> 03:07:59.850
that they needed to step up
and participate and help out.
03:08:01.300 --> 03:08:04.830
And they needed to support
the removal of these dams
03:08:04.830 --> 03:08:07.853
and the restoration
of these communities.
03:08:09.230 --> 03:08:13.440
And so this week, an agreement
was announced that ensures
03:08:13.440 --> 03:08:17.750
that the $200 million that
have already been collected
03:08:17.750 --> 03:08:21.020
from rate payers in both California
03:08:21.020 --> 03:08:23.130
and Oregon to do this work.
03:08:23.130 --> 03:08:27.400
The $250 million that
was part of the water bond
03:08:27.400 --> 03:08:30.383
that California voters passed in 2014.
03:08:31.810 --> 03:08:34.850
And the insurance liability packages
03:08:34.850 --> 03:08:41.300
that the KRRC put together,
can all be packaged up
03:08:41.300 --> 03:08:44.673
and back then supported
by the States of California
03:08:44.673 --> 03:08:46.980
and the state of Oregon
03:08:46.980 --> 03:08:51.980
and by Berkshire Hathaway
to get this project done
03:08:52.440 --> 03:08:55.813
and to get the dams
removed starting in 2022.
03:08:57.790 --> 03:09:02.790
And so it was just such a
wonderful moment to see
03:09:05.792 --> 03:09:10.040
the presentation, to see the
Chairman of the Karuk tribe
03:09:10.040 --> 03:09:13.530
and the Yurok tribe, sort
of sharing their thoughts
03:09:13.530 --> 03:09:16.710
about what this agreement
means to their communities
03:09:16.710 --> 03:09:21.350
and the cultural and
economic restoration
03:09:21.350 --> 03:09:23.263
that this project will bring.
03:09:24.990 --> 03:09:28.580
It was really wonderful
to see Chuck Bonham
03:09:28.580 --> 03:09:30.720
the Director of Fish and Wildlife,
03:09:30.720 --> 03:09:32.940
share his thoughts about this agreement.
03:09:32.940 --> 03:09:34.423
The first time I met Chuck,
03:09:35.660 --> 03:09:39.290
he was one of the
known negotiating parties
03:09:39.290 --> 03:09:40.300
for Trout Unlimited.
03:09:40.300 --> 03:09:42.370
And he and I met,
03:09:42.370 --> 03:09:44.930
and he shared the
importance of the agreement.
03:09:44.930 --> 03:09:46.640
I think I was maybe two weeks
03:09:46.640 --> 03:09:48.773
into my job at the Resources Agency.
03:09:50.054 --> 03:09:52.873
And those of you who
know Chuck know that he
03:09:52.873 --> 03:09:54.640
just has a way about him
03:09:54.640 --> 03:09:58.710
of expressing sort of
the deep importance
03:09:58.710 --> 03:10:02.083
of this agreement in this project.
03:10:03.060 --> 03:10:04.260
And then like a few weeks later
03:10:04.260 --> 03:10:07.630
he got appointed to be the
Director of Fish and Wildlife
03:10:07.630 --> 03:10:10.460
and he has continued in that role
03:10:10.460 --> 03:10:12.320
making this project happen.
03:10:12.320 --> 03:10:15.290
And so I was really excited to see him
03:10:15.290 --> 03:10:17.450
be able to announce this.
03:10:17.450 --> 03:10:21.530
And again, I can't
express my appreciation
03:10:21.530 --> 03:10:23.530
anymore for for Governor Newsom
03:10:23.530 --> 03:10:26.203
and Governor Brown
for really pushing this.
03:10:28.660 --> 03:10:29.883
And of course,
03:10:31.370 --> 03:10:32.743
I just have to say,
03:10:33.750 --> 03:10:35.050
I was choice Fletcher.
03:10:35.050 --> 03:10:36.360
We're here to see this moment.
03:10:36.360 --> 03:10:40.410
And I wish he would
be, could be here in 2022
03:10:40.410 --> 03:10:41.960
when the project finally happens.
03:10:41.960 --> 03:10:45.380
He was such a passionate advocate
03:10:45.380 --> 03:10:49.490
for the Yurok tribe and
for their economic health
03:10:49.490 --> 03:10:52.270
and wellbeing and their
cultural health and wellbeing.
03:10:52.270 --> 03:10:56.460
And this project meant
everything to him.
03:10:56.460 --> 03:10:59.320
And I wish he could be here to see it
03:10:59.320 --> 03:11:02.570
but we will carry it through for him.
03:11:02.570 --> 03:11:05.790
So there's more work to be
done for cast to take action.
03:11:05.790 --> 03:11:07.853
This Commission has to take action.
03:11:09.750 --> 03:11:11.340
I'm not gonna be here for that
03:11:11.340 --> 03:11:13.892
'cause it's gonna happen after December,
03:11:13.892 --> 03:11:16.493
but I leave you this project.
03:11:18.754 --> 03:11:19.840
And I hope that
03:11:21.620 --> 03:11:24.480
you will, I know you
will all take into account
03:11:24.480 --> 03:11:26.960
all of the important issues
03:11:26.960 --> 03:11:31.587
in terms of transferring
the dams to KRRC in
03:11:35.660 --> 03:11:37.610
and that you will do it very quickly
03:11:37.610 --> 03:11:39.660
because it needs to
be done very quickly.
03:11:40.700 --> 03:11:43.320
So anyway, I just had to take a moment
03:11:43.320 --> 03:11:48.223
to share the importance
of this contract amendment.
03:11:50.540 --> 03:11:54.080
That was absolutely marvelous
Commissioner Randolph.
03:11:54.080 --> 03:11:58.870
Thank you so much for the history
03:11:58.870 --> 03:12:02.920
and obviously your very
personal involvement
03:12:04.270 --> 03:12:05.900
along the way.
03:12:05.900 --> 03:12:07.450
It's just marvelous, thank you.
03:12:08.960 --> 03:12:10.680
Turning to the other Commissioners
03:12:10.680 --> 03:12:12.503
for your Commission reports.
03:12:15.030 --> 03:12:16.433
Yes, Commissioner Shiroma.
03:12:18.770 --> 03:12:20.510
Yes, thank you.
03:12:20.510 --> 03:12:25.510
And thank you Commissioner
Randolph for the summary
03:12:28.080 --> 03:12:30.000
and the celebration and
03:12:35.640 --> 03:12:38.580
is beyond remarkable,
what's going to happen.
03:12:38.580 --> 03:12:42.293
So taking your words to heart, for sure.
03:12:43.180 --> 03:12:44.980
I just wanted to quickly report that
03:12:45.830 --> 03:12:48.410
I'd mentioned the Low
Income Oversight Board earlier
03:12:48.410 --> 03:12:53.310
and they are holding this next
quarterly on December 10th,
03:12:53.310 --> 03:12:56.060
over WebEx, starting at 9:00 a.m.
03:12:56.060 --> 03:12:57.833
We can participate virtually.
03:12:58.920 --> 03:13:03.497
They will be pinning down
their comments to us on the,
03:13:05.320 --> 03:13:06.680
well maybe they should to me
03:13:06.680 --> 03:13:09.220
but then eventually to the Commission
03:13:09.220 --> 03:13:13.190
on the care ISA
proceeding that is underway
03:13:13.190 --> 03:13:16.730
they will be weighing in on half a dozen
03:13:16.730 --> 03:13:20.853
or so specific topics on
the current proceedings.
03:13:21.709 --> 03:13:25.090
And then we will hear
from Jennifer Hernandez
03:13:25.090 --> 03:13:27.720
with the department social services.
03:13:27.720 --> 03:13:30.570
She's with the family engagement
and empowerment division
03:13:31.660 --> 03:13:36.660
and she will be reporting
on this effort that's underway,
03:13:37.090 --> 03:13:40.470
it's called the California Statewide
03:13:40.470 --> 03:13:43.440
Automated Welfare System.
03:13:43.440 --> 03:13:46.580
And the goal is to connect up
03:13:46.580 --> 03:13:50.720
all the different programs
towards qualifying.
03:13:50.720 --> 03:13:55.000
So if you're on CalFresh
or if you're on stop.
03:13:55.000 --> 03:13:59.640
The different things that
we use to qualify folks
03:13:59.640 --> 03:14:04.153
for a lifeline for ISA at,
03:14:05.950 --> 03:14:09.240
for discount programs in the
03:14:09.240 --> 03:14:11.670
in the energy programs,
03:14:11.670 --> 03:14:13.920
we'll hear about their efforts
03:14:13.920 --> 03:14:18.840
which will surely help to make it easier
03:14:18.840 --> 03:14:21.760
to assign people up who are qualified.
03:14:21.760 --> 03:14:25.630
And we'll of course be
interested to hear how
03:14:27.050 --> 03:14:28.200
social services work
03:14:29.420 --> 03:14:31.560
can be keenly coordinated
03:14:31.560 --> 03:14:33.060
with the industrial utility.
03:14:33.060 --> 03:14:35.460
So that will be on December 10th.
03:14:35.460 --> 03:14:37.180
More details on the website.
03:14:37.180 --> 03:14:39.890
If folks want to look at look that up.
03:14:39.890 --> 03:14:43.040
Then our Universal
Lifeline telephone service
03:14:43.040 --> 03:14:45.410
Administrators committee,
you know ULTSAC.
03:14:45.410 --> 03:14:49.470
We'll also be meeting on
December 16th, 1:00 p.m.
03:14:49.470 --> 03:14:52.727
And they will be paying
down their annual report
03:14:52.727 --> 03:14:55.490
to the Commission each
year, they're required to
03:14:55.490 --> 03:15:00.490
do an annual report on their activities
03:15:01.480 --> 03:15:05.350
in the previous year,
details also on the website.
03:15:05.350 --> 03:15:09.870
And then finally, I want to
take a moment to introduce
03:15:09.870 --> 03:15:13.630
or announced a new advisor in my office.
03:15:13.630 --> 03:15:16.010
Christina Lee Tan will be serving
03:15:16.010 --> 03:15:19.700
as an Energy and
Telecommunications Advisor on loan
03:15:19.700 --> 03:15:23.170
to my office from the
CPC Energy Division.
03:15:23.170 --> 03:15:26.510
She will be working on
energy and telco proceedings
03:15:26.510 --> 03:15:30.170
including my micro
grids, some of our GRC
03:15:30.170 --> 03:15:34.570
and also on (indistinct) with
Commissioner Guzman Aceves
03:15:34.570 --> 03:15:36.520
on the incarcerated calling service OIR
03:15:38.020 --> 03:15:42.840
and she will be helping
us on that proceeding.
03:15:42.840 --> 03:15:46.040
Christina joined the
CPC in 2018 and worked
03:15:46.040 --> 03:15:51.040
as a Senior Analyst on
natural gas and reliability.
03:15:51.420 --> 03:15:53.650
She recently led the Aliso Canyon
03:15:53.650 --> 03:15:56.270
and longterm gas planning proceedings.
03:15:56.270 --> 03:15:57.630
In addition to other projects
03:15:57.630 --> 03:16:01.603
analyzing electric and gas
system markets and reliability.
03:16:02.700 --> 03:16:05.550
Prior to joining the
CPC, Christina worked
03:16:05.550 --> 03:16:07.460
in the electric utility industry
03:16:07.460 --> 03:16:11.080
three years in a
variety of roles including
03:16:11.080 --> 03:16:13.190
working on renewable energy procurement
03:16:13.190 --> 03:16:16.380
and distribution and
transmission infrastructure.
03:16:16.380 --> 03:16:18.460
And Christina holds a master's degree
03:16:18.460 --> 03:16:21.040
in Economics from Cal Poly Pomona
03:16:21.040 --> 03:16:23.360
and a bachelor's degree
in Political Science
03:16:23.360 --> 03:16:26.440
from University of
California, Santa Barbara.
03:16:26.440 --> 03:16:28.120
And she happens to be
03:16:29.890 --> 03:16:33.420
headquartered in our Los Angeles office.
03:16:33.420 --> 03:16:35.270
So welcome Christina.
03:16:35.270 --> 03:16:36.103
Thank you.
03:16:38.890 --> 03:16:41.030
Thank you
Commissioner Shiroma.
03:16:42.390 --> 03:16:44.940
Commissioner Guzman
Aceves, I think you're (laugh).
03:16:47.690 --> 03:16:48.757
Marry Ann were
you saying something
03:16:48.757 --> 03:16:50.980
'cause you were muted.
03:16:50.980 --> 03:16:52.740
Yeah, I forgot
to unmute myself.
03:16:52.740 --> 03:16:54.880
I was just saying how
much those of us who work
03:16:54.880 --> 03:16:56.950
with the gas team are
gonna miss Christina
03:16:56.950 --> 03:16:58.797
while she's working
in your office (laugh).
03:17:01.930 --> 03:17:05.260
Yes, Christina is amazing.
03:17:05.260 --> 03:17:07.650
I had a small update.
03:17:07.650 --> 03:17:10.500
I was hesitant to go after
Commissioner Randolph (laugh).
03:17:11.520 --> 03:17:14.380
This, not much of an update
or anything compared to that
03:17:14.380 --> 03:17:19.380
but I did want to just
let all of you know
03:17:19.610 --> 03:17:24.610
as well as the public
that, of course, in our,
03:17:24.770 --> 03:17:26.490
I can't remember the last meeting.
03:17:26.490 --> 03:17:27.650
I think last meeting
03:17:27.650 --> 03:17:31.140
when we discussed the net
energy metering citation program
03:17:32.320 --> 03:17:36.160
you all were clear about your concerns
03:17:36.160 --> 03:17:40.700
and requested that we fully examine
03:17:40.700 --> 03:17:44.570
the solar industry's proposal
to increase the audits
03:17:45.620 --> 03:17:50.620
and they have filed, they
have previously filed a petition
03:17:51.050 --> 03:17:55.240
for modification requesting
that proposal be added
03:17:55.240 --> 03:17:59.510
into the enhancement of
the current audit program.
03:17:59.510 --> 03:18:03.130
So I will be issuing not immediately,
03:18:03.130 --> 03:18:05.160
obviously but I'll be
working with the judges
03:18:05.160 --> 03:18:08.680
to issue a decision to effectuate
03:18:08.680 --> 03:18:10.180
as much of that as possible
03:18:12.046 --> 03:18:15.183
in consideration of their
petition for modification.
03:18:17.992 --> 03:18:20.890
And after that I would like to
03:18:22.930 --> 03:18:26.973
see how a citation
program fits within that.
03:18:28.530 --> 03:18:33.130
Obviously it's really narrowing it to
03:18:33.130 --> 03:18:35.670
what I think is still
the most critical role
03:18:35.670 --> 03:18:39.100
for the utilities without
being overly punitive
03:18:39.100 --> 03:18:40.793
but just to have a functioning,
03:18:42.280 --> 03:18:45.260
ensuring we have the
information that we need
03:18:45.260 --> 03:18:48.800
to provide to the CFIB.
03:18:48.800 --> 03:18:53.800
And this essentially is the
Solar Transaction Record portal,
03:18:55.760 --> 03:18:58.950
where actually was
originally a suggestion
03:18:58.950 --> 03:19:02.160
by the utilities not to
find them, but to create it.
03:19:02.160 --> 03:19:05.500
And so I just wanted
to give you that update
03:19:07.130 --> 03:19:11.350
that I'll be working on the
audit enhancement programs
03:19:12.570 --> 03:19:15.910
and coming back to
you with that proposal,
03:19:15.910 --> 03:19:19.400
and then hopefully
have the ability to discuss
03:19:20.250 --> 03:19:23.813
what you consider in a
citation program after that.
03:19:25.180 --> 03:19:26.283
Thank you very much.
03:19:29.350 --> 03:19:31.400
Thank you
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
03:19:31.400 --> 03:19:33.100
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
03:19:34.910 --> 03:19:37.310
I have no
reports President Batjer.
03:19:38.259 --> 03:19:40.880
Okay (laugh).
03:19:40.880 --> 03:19:42.850
And I don't either for today.
03:19:42.850 --> 03:19:44.540
So I want to
03:19:46.080 --> 03:19:48.860
really thank my fellow Commissioners
03:19:48.860 --> 03:19:50.580
for the, your updates and your afforded.
03:19:50.580 --> 03:19:52.980
And again, Commissioner Randolph I
03:19:52.980 --> 03:19:54.910
thank you very much for that
03:19:54.910 --> 03:20:01.570
extremely informative
history and emotional
03:20:02.960 --> 03:20:04.850
report on Klamath.
03:20:04.850 --> 03:20:05.920
We've all touched it
03:20:05.920 --> 03:20:09.023
at our different parts
of an art career career.
03:20:10.074 --> 03:20:13.410
I was, I'm reminiscing a bit about that
03:20:13.410 --> 03:20:15.040
while you were talking.
03:20:15.040 --> 03:20:18.450
So with that this public that finishes
03:20:18.450 --> 03:20:19.650
the Commissioner's report
03:20:19.650 --> 03:20:22.940
and that also finishes
our public meeting today.
03:20:22.940 --> 03:20:24.670
So we are now adjourned.
03:20:24.670 --> 03:20:26.183
Thank you all very much.
03:20:27.100 --> 03:20:30.223
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