WEBVTT 00:01:03.660 --> 00:01:09.588 and Commissioner Rechschaffen. We have 00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:15.439 a motion and a second. All in favor of the Consent items, 00:01:15.463 --> 00:01:17.463 please say aye. 00:01:17.487 --> 00:01:19.487 Aye. 00:01:20.250 --> 00:01:21.918 Aye. Thank you. The Consent 00:01:21.930 --> 00:01:23.400 Agenda items have been passed unanimously. 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:28.013 I believe that Commissioner Shiroma would like to 00:01:28.025 --> 00:01:31.290 make a comment on Item 31, the appointment to the 00:01:31.290 --> 00:01:39.204 Low Income Oversight Board. We can't hear you. I'm sorry, 00:01:39.216 --> 00:01:48.509 Commissioner Shiroma. Is there a way that the operator could unmute 00:01:48.509 --> 00:01:51.838 Commissioner Shiroma? 00:01:51.863 --> 00:01:55.960 There we go. 00:01:55.960 --> 00:01:57.603 Now, we're on. 00:01:57.628 --> 00:02:00.212 Thank you very much, 00:02:00.224 --> 00:02:02.531 President Batjer. I wanted to thank you 00:02:02.530 --> 00:02:08.679 and the other Commissioners for voting to reappoint these four very qualified 00:02:08.679 --> 00:02:11.723 members to the Low-Income Oversight 00:02:11.735 --> 00:02:15.489 Board. And they are Jason Lindley, who is 00:02:15.489 --> 00:02:21.250 a chief deputy director of the Community Services Division, he serves as the 00:02:21.250 --> 00:02:24.461 Department of Community Services Representative. 00:02:24.473 --> 00:02:26.709 (inaudible) Thomas who's with the 00:02:26.709 --> 00:02:29.291 National Resources Defense Council-- 00:02:29.316 --> 00:02:32.860 It's not. Yeah, that was the first thing I 00:02:32.860 --> 00:02:34.488 did when I like-- 00:02:34.513 --> 00:02:37.038 Molly, I can hear you. 00:02:37.050 --> 00:02:39.371 I can hear you. Okay, all right, I'm gonna 00:02:39.370 --> 00:02:43.237 continue on. Maria Salas is from the National 00:02:43.249 --> 00:02:47.380 Resources Defense Council, she's a strategist on 00:02:47.380 --> 00:02:51.040 the equitable building decarbonisation program at the NRDC. 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:56.590 And she serves as our public member. Commissioner Sheryl Watts is the 00:02:56.590 --> 00:03:02.200 President and CEO of FCI Management Consultants, and she served as our 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:07.120 climate weatherization contractor representative. And then finally Jeff 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.000 Wineham, who is the Vice President for 00:03:10.012 --> 00:03:13.360 Rate and Regulatory Affairs for California 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.710 American Water Company, and he serves as the 00:03:16.710 --> 00:03:20.820 representative for the water corporations. And I look forward to 00:03:20.820 --> 00:03:25.250 working with them and the rest of the Low-Income Oversight Board members and 00:03:25.250 --> 00:03:30.090 continuing to serve the low-income communities in our state, so thank you 00:03:30.090 --> 00:03:31.245 very much. 00:03:31.270 --> 00:03:34.710 Thank you. We're trying to figure out 00:03:34.710 --> 00:03:36.629 some of the other difficulties. Thanks, 00:03:36.641 --> 00:03:38.820 everyone, for mentioning the AdminMonitors 00:03:38.820 --> 00:03:44.930 were working on it. And operator, could you please unmute 00:03:44.930 --> 00:03:57.221 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? That's R-E-C-H-T-S-C-H-A-F-F-E-N. 00:03:57.246 --> 00:04:00.009 Yes. One moment. 00:04:00.034 --> 00:04:02.970 Sorry, everyone. 00:04:02.970 --> 00:04:07.530 Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma, I appreciate that. 00:04:07.530 --> 00:04:12.175 We now will move to the regular agenda 00:04:12.187 --> 00:04:17.580 items, and we will take up the first item, 00:04:17.580 --> 00:04:24.800 which is my item, which is 18 and 18A. 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:31.700 The proposed decision and the alternate proposed decision regarding the contract 00:04:31.700 --> 00:04:38.870 extension of the statewide time-of-use marketing and outreach, 00:04:38.870 --> 00:04:46.050 under Rulemaking 1206013. As stated, I am the assigned Commissioner of the 00:04:46.050 --> 00:04:51.870 proceeding, and I am the author of item 18A, the alternate proposed 00:04:51.870 --> 00:04:54.985 decision. To provide some background, DDB 00:04:54.997 --> 00:04:57.900 San Francisco was selected to lead the 00:04:57.900 --> 00:05:02.130 marketing campaign to support the transition of California residential 00:05:02.130 --> 00:05:09.030 customers to time-of-use rates. That ever has been supported the 00:05:09.030 --> 00:05:14.019 successful transition of San Diego Gas and 00:05:14.031 --> 00:05:18.450 Electric's customers, though the SCE, 00:05:18.450 --> 00:05:24.870 SoCal Edison and PG&E transitions have been delayed to time-of-use rates 00:05:24.870 --> 00:05:27.811 to later this year. As a result, partially 00:05:27.823 --> 00:05:30.020 due to the delay in transitions 00:05:30.020 --> 00:05:36.319 and some internal missteps, DDB sought 23 million in additional funding to 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:43.819 complete the campaign for the SoCal Edison and PG&E. Neither the PD or the 00:05:43.819 --> 00:05:51.379 APD, the alternate PD, provide for that level of funding. The PD and the APD 00:05:51.379 --> 00:05:56.150 would both authorize up to 7.7 millionmillion to continue the DDB 00:05:56.150 --> 00:06:03.199 statewide marketing campaign for the default time of use roll out. Where the 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:08.659 APD and the PD differ is that the proposed decision eliminated all 00:06:08.659 --> 00:06:11.240 funding for the community-based organizations 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:17.120 efforts and the support for the multicultural media. After the proposed 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:22.190 decision was issued, we heard from numerous local governments and CBO's 00:06:22.190 --> 00:06:26.870 that were deeply disappointed that the proposed decision denied all funding in 00:06:26.870 --> 00:06:31.360 this regard. We heard some of them speak today during the public comment period. 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:38.060 My alternate alternative PD, proposed decision, authorizes 4.8 00:06:38.060 --> 00:06:44.990 million in funding to continue to coordinate the CBO efforts and 781 00:06:44.990 --> 00:06:49.699 thousand for updating and maintaining the multicultural and in-language 00:06:49.699 --> 00:06:56.389 marketing content. It's critical that DDB's time of use outreach connects to 00:06:56.389 --> 00:07:01.900 diverse and hard-to-reach populations. Many customer groups rely on heavily, 00:07:01.900 --> 00:07:08.389 rely heavily on trusted CBO's for information, and without multicultural 00:07:08.389 --> 00:07:13.940 marketing, customers can't act on outreach that is not familiar to them or 00:07:13.940 --> 00:07:19.120 understood by them. I would also like to note that, in response to comments, the 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:24.860 alternate PD was revised to provide additional oversight over the CBO 00:07:24.860 --> 00:07:30.770 selection process to ensure that there is no duplication with the utilities 00:07:30.770 --> 00:07:36.889 efforts and that a broad and diverse set of CBO's are selected. I would like to 00:07:36.889 --> 00:07:43.039 thank assigned ALJ's Doherty and Park and also Assistant Chief ALJ Jeanne 00:07:43.039 --> 00:07:46.430 McKinney for her incredible hard work on the 00:07:46.430 --> 00:07:52.479 alternative alternate PD. I would also like to recognize our star unit for 00:07:52.479 --> 00:07:57.650 continually delivering professional clerical support for our judges through 00:07:57.650 --> 00:08:01.580 these difficult times. Thanks to my Bagley-Keene Alliance 00:08:01.580 --> 00:08:07.759 partner, Commissioner Guzman Aceves, and her advisor, Sarah sharp. Also, I would 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.314 like to thank my advisor, Dave Peck, on 00:08:11.326 --> 00:08:15.259 this matter as well. With that, I request 00:08:15.259 --> 00:08:21.349 your support for item 18A, my alternate proposed decision. Would anybody else 00:08:21.349 --> 00:08:25.439 like to comment? Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 00:08:25.464 --> 00:08:29.439 Thank you, President Batjer. I would also 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.472 like to thank everyone that you've 00:08:31.484 --> 00:08:34.070 mentioned. In addition, some of the staff 00:08:34.070 --> 00:08:38.659 from Energy division, especially Whitney Richardson, and News and Outreach staff, 00:08:38.659 --> 00:08:44.360 Daisy Yi, for making sure that, in the alternate, we really do look at the 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.348 selection process for the most diverse set 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.290 of community based organizations. I think 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:55.459 this is really the most important work to really get to the local and more 00:08:55.459 --> 00:09:00.290 relevant messaging to communities, and I look forward to looking at the scope of 00:09:00.290 --> 00:09:05.389 the work for these new CBO contracts to really incorporate the challenge of 00:09:05.389 --> 00:09:10.639 today in keeping people's bills manageable. Time of use is obviously one 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:14.389 of those issues, but as you mentioned earlier, President Batjer, all the 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:17.779 strategies for reduction in youth are going to be critically important in 00:09:17.779 --> 00:09:22.100 these upcoming months and year, so thank you for your leadership, and I look 00:09:22.100 --> 00:09:23.738 forward to supporting it. 00:09:23.763 --> 00:09:27.079 Thank you, Commissioner. I really appreciate all of 00:09:27.079 --> 00:09:30.769 your help and assistance as well. You've been vitally important in this process. 00:09:30.769 --> 00:09:38.060 Thank you. Any other comments on 18 and 18A? We will be voting on 18A. Yes, 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:39.850 Commissioner Shiroma? 00:09:39.875 --> 00:09:43.430 Yes, thank you. Thank you, President Batjer, 00:09:43.430 --> 00:09:46.001 and Judges Dougherty and Parks for 00:09:46.013 --> 00:09:49.279 bringing these items forward, and your BK 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.503 partner, Commissioner Martha Guzman Aceves. 00:09:52.515 --> 00:09:55.089 I'll be supporting your alternate. 00:09:55.089 --> 00:10:00.290 Education and outreach are key to a successful rollout of residential 00:10:00.290 --> 00:10:06.740 time of use rates. These rates will only achieve their intended goal of shifting 00:10:06.740 --> 00:10:10.850 usage away from the peak periods if customers understand them and how they 00:10:10.850 --> 00:10:13.937 work. Of course, here in Sacramento, we've 00:10:13.949 --> 00:10:16.759 been living with time of use for quite 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.622 some time and managing it very well. For 00:10:19.634 --> 00:10:22.579 hard-to-reach populations, receiving time 00:10:22.579 --> 00:10:28.639 of use education from organizations based in their communities is key to 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.709 ensuring they aren't left behind in this transition, and I appreciated the public 00:10:33.709 --> 00:10:37.879 comments we received at our Bakersfield voting meetings, that 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:40.950 reminded me who the trusted messengers are 00:10:40.962 --> 00:10:43.759 in these communities. So I support the 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.439 alternate's continued funding for community-based organization work, as 00:10:48.439 --> 00:10:52.850 well as the new reporting requirements to ensure that the investor-owned 00:10:52.850 --> 00:10:56.086 utilities, the company DDB itself, and the 00:10:56.098 --> 00:10:59.120 CBO's are able to manage and coordinate 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:03.259 their outreach to these communities moving forward. Thank you. 00:11:03.284 --> 00:11:04.639 Thank you, 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.740 Commissioner Shiroma. Any other comments? 00:11:07.765 --> 00:11:09.290 This is Commissioner 00:11:09.290 --> 00:11:13.480 Randolph. I'll just echo my colleagues-- 00:11:14.800 --> 00:11:18.519 Whoops, we lost you Commissioner Randolph. 00:11:18.544 --> 00:11:19.759 Can you hear me at 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:20.964 all? 00:11:20.989 --> 00:11:22.655 Yeah, now, we can now. 00:11:22.667 --> 00:11:24.579 Something slipped on your speaker. There you go. 00:11:24.579 --> 00:11:28.331 I just wanted to echo my colleagues-- 00:11:28.356 --> 00:11:33.199 You're off again. I think something's coming in 00:11:33.199 --> 00:11:37.399 and out of your own speaker. 00:11:37.424 --> 00:11:41.907 Randolph has disconnected. 00:11:41.932 --> 00:11:44.149 Can you reconnect, 00:11:44.149 --> 00:11:47.170 Commissioner Randolph? 00:11:49.670 --> 00:11:55.723 Yes, you've been, can you please unmute, Commissioner Randolph? 00:11:55.748 --> 00:12:00.830 Commissioner Randolph has disconnected from the line. 00:12:00.830 --> 00:12:02.205 Am I hearing Robert? 00:12:02.230 --> 00:12:06.330 You're hearing, yes, she disconnected from the line, she needs to 00:12:06.330 --> 00:12:07.905 call back in. 00:12:07.930 --> 00:12:12.630 Okay, LeeAnn can you hear me? If you can hear 00:12:12.630 --> 00:12:15.600 me, you have been disconnected, you disconnected from the line, you need to 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:28.620 call back in. You want to send her a note, Martha, through chat. 00:12:28.645 --> 00:12:32.984 I just texted her. 00:12:38.660 --> 00:12:41.421 Martha, would you do a test for 00:12:41.433 --> 00:12:43.940 me? I mean, can you say hello? I'm not seeing, 00:12:43.940 --> 00:12:46.928 I'm not hearing you anymore. 00:12:46.953 --> 00:12:50.958 Sorry, President Batjer, I was muted. 00:12:50.983 --> 00:12:52.690 Okay thank you 00:12:52.690 --> 00:12:55.345 Leann is calling back in. 00:12:55.370 --> 00:12:58.190 Okay, good. Commissioner Shiroma, can you do a test 00:12:58.190 --> 00:12:59.375 for me? 00:12:59.400 --> 00:13:01.085 Yes. Can you hear me? 00:13:01.110 --> 00:13:02.930 I can hear you. Okay. 00:13:02.930 --> 00:13:06.129 By the way, I'm happy to 00:13:06.141 --> 00:13:09.680 second the motion for the APD, although I wasn't sure 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:10.603 if-- 00:13:10.628 --> 00:13:13.371 I think Commissioner Randolph is going to make some comments 00:13:13.370 --> 00:13:22.626 before we move motion, but thank you for that. 00:13:22.651 --> 00:13:27.550 Operator, can you reopen 00:13:27.550 --> 00:13:32.990 Commissioner Randolph's line? Commissioner Randolph has a call back 00:13:32.990 --> 00:13:38.800 in and enter into the conference one moment as I look for him. 00:13:48.570 --> 00:13:53.214 Leann are you, did I, 00:13:53.226 --> 00:13:57.550 are youback on? We're still not hearing 00:13:57.550 --> 00:13:59.935 you 00:13:59.960 --> 00:14:05.308 Operator, please reopen the line for Commissioner Randolph. 00:14:05.333 --> 00:14:07.091 Commissioner 00:14:07.090 --> 00:14:10.714 Randolph has not called back in yet. 00:14:10.739 --> 00:14:13.612 She indicates she's on hold. 00:14:13.636 --> 00:14:14.740 She's been 00:14:14.740 --> 00:14:20.148 placed on hold? 00:14:20.173 --> 00:14:32.132 Commissioner Randolph is now on the conference. 00:14:32.156 --> 00:14:33.805 You can now speak. 00:14:33.830 --> 00:14:36.370 Okay, can you hear me now? 00:14:36.370 --> 00:14:39.532 We can now hear you. Thank you. 00:14:39.557 --> 00:14:42.450 Thank you, very much. Thank you. I support the APD. 00:14:42.450 --> 00:14:48.490 Thank you. Okay. Will the clerk call the roll please? Oh, 00:14:48.490 --> 00:14:51.433 excuse me. We need a motion and a second. 00:14:51.445 --> 00:14:54.400 I know we have a second to the motion, so 00:14:54.400 --> 00:14:57.917 moved and seconded by Commissioner Shiroma. 00:14:57.942 --> 00:14:59.089 Yes 00:14:59.115 --> 00:15:01.630 And will the agenda clerk 00:15:01.630 --> 00:15:03.663 please call the roll 00:15:03.688 --> 00:15:06.795 For item 18A Commissioner Shiroma? 00:15:06.819 --> 00:15:07.830 Aye. 00:15:07.830 --> 00:15:10.384 Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 00:15:10.409 --> 00:15:11.372 Aye 00:15:11.397 --> 00:15:12.867 Comissioner Randolph? 00:15:12.892 --> 00:15:13.234 Aye 00:15:13.259 --> 00:15:14.260 Commissioner 00:15:14.260 --> 00:15:16.030 Rechtschaffen? 00:15:16.055 --> 00:15:17.376 Aye. 00:15:17.401 --> 00:15:18.451 President Batjer? 00:15:18.477 --> 00:15:21.340 Aye, and we heard everyone, Commissioner Rechtschaffen, 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:23.608 you were heard, so you're good. 00:15:23.633 --> 00:15:24.897 Thank you, great. 00:15:24.921 --> 00:15:26.680 Then vote is unanimous 00:15:26.680 --> 00:15:30.739 on 18A, therefore, we will not be taking 00:15:30.751 --> 00:15:35.020 up 18, we will now move to item number 19. 00:15:35.020 --> 00:15:37.959 That is Commissioner Randolph. 00:15:37.984 --> 00:15:42.760 Okay, this is item 19, a proposed decision in the 00:15:42.760 --> 00:15:48.100 building decarbonization rulemaking. Senate Bill 1477 directed the Commission 00:15:48.100 --> 00:15:52.450 to develop, in consultation with the Energy Commission, 2 building 00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:56.650 decarbonization pilot programs. These pilot programs are designed to develop 00:15:56.650 --> 00:16:00.400 valuable market experience for the purpose of decarbonizing 00:16:00.400 --> 00:16:04.560 California's residential buildings in order to achieve our zero emission goal. 00:16:04.560 --> 00:16:08.920 There's two programs. The Building Initiative for Low Emissions Development 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:11.922 program, called BUILD, and the Technology 00:16:11.934 --> 00:16:14.230 and Equipment for Clean Heating 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:20.020 Initiative, called TECH. This proposed decision establishes the framework for 00:16:20.020 --> 00:16:26.620 Commission oversight of these two programs. SB1477 makes available 50 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:30.910 million dollars annually for four years for a total of two hundred million 00:16:30.910 --> 00:16:34.810 dollars derived from the revenue generated from the greenhouse gas 00:16:34.810 --> 00:16:39.940 emission allowances allocated to gas corporations as part of state California 00:16:39.940 --> 00:16:41.921 Air Resources Board cap-and-trade 00:16:41.933 --> 00:16:44.529 program. This decision appropriates forty 00:16:44.529 --> 00:16:48.279 percent of the two hundred million dollar budget for the BUILD program and 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:55.300 sixty percent for the TECH Initiative. With regard to the BUILD program, that 00:16:55.300 --> 00:17:00.279 will be administered by the Energy Commission with CPUC oversight. We are 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.460 looking forward to working in collaboration with the Energy Commission 00:17:03.460 --> 00:17:07.929 to deploy near zero emission building technologies in the largest number of 00:17:07.929 --> 00:17:13.329 new residential housing units possible. A critical component of California's 00:17:13.329 --> 00:17:17.439 transition to a cleaner energy future will be ensuring that no parts of the 00:17:17.439 --> 00:17:21.939 population are left behind. That means that there should be a priority given to 00:17:21.939 --> 00:17:26.439 new low income residential housing projects built within low-income and 00:17:26.439 --> 00:17:28.866 disadvantaged communities. New low income 00:17:28.878 --> 00:17:30.910 residential housing projects built 00:17:30.910 --> 00:17:35.650 outside of these communities will also be eligible for BUILD program funds. At 00:17:35.650 --> 00:17:40.420 least 30% of the total two hundred million dollars in funding authorized by 00:17:40.420 --> 00:17:46.000 1477 is appropriated for new low-income residential housing under the BUILD 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.601 program. This percentage is not a ceiling 00:17:48.613 --> 00:17:51.040 for spending on low-income housing but 00:17:51.040 --> 00:17:56.500 rather a floor. Incentive eligibility for the BUILD program shall be limited 00:17:56.500 --> 00:18:02.410 strictly to new all-electric residential housing buildings projects without hook 00:18:02.410 --> 00:18:05.413 up to the gas distribution grid. If there 00:18:05.425 --> 00:18:08.440 are any remaining unspent funds after two 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:14.080 years, the CEC and the CPUC will, in consultation, consider 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:18.240 are extending the build program to address any barriers to scaling 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.120 decarbonisation in low-income residential housing identified by the 00:18:22.120 --> 00:18:27.159 program evaluator, the Disadvantaged Communities Advisory group, or the 00:18:27.159 --> 00:18:33.029 Low-Income Oversight Board, consistent with the legislative intent of SB 1477. 00:18:33.029 --> 00:18:36.990 The second program is the Tech Initiative, which is aimed at advancing 00:18:36.990 --> 00:18:41.519 California's market for low emissions space and water heating equipment, 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.789 technology that is in an early stage of market development in both new and 00:18:45.789 --> 00:18:50.830 existing residential buildings in California. The TECH Initiative consists 00:18:50.830 --> 00:18:56.139 of several interrelated undertakings: identify and target key low emissions 00:18:56.139 --> 00:18:58.220 space and water heating equipment 00:18:58.232 --> 00:19:00.960 technologies, provide consumer education, 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:06.179 contractor training, and vendor training for these technologies, and 00:19:06.179 --> 00:19:11.139 develop guidelines and evaluation metrics, implement outreach strategies 00:19:11.139 --> 00:19:15.220 for hard-to-reach customers, and provide for job training and employment 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:23.200 opportunities. The TECH staff proposal and parties recommended a wide array of 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:28.570 technologies and approaches for the TECH Initiative, including heat pump HVAC 00:19:28.570 --> 00:19:33.279 systems to replace either central air conditioning or space 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:38.860 heating currently provided by propane or electric resistance heat, early 00:19:38.860 --> 00:19:43.470 replacement programs for older natural gas furnaces and water heaters, and 00:19:43.470 --> 00:19:49.120 incentives and low-cost financing targeted to landlords and consumers to 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:54.820 overcome capital cost barriers. Rather than having a list of specific eligible 00:19:54.820 --> 00:19:59.380 equipment, products, and approaches, we adopt a performance-based approach on 00:19:59.380 --> 00:20:04.809 GHG emission reduction baseline. We will give special 00:20:04.809 --> 00:20:09.039 consideration to technologies that are grid enabled, have a high market 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:13.570 potential, and that improve the health and safety and affordability for low 00:20:13.570 --> 00:20:18.490 income households. The market transformation framework of the TECH 00:20:18.490 --> 00:20:22.510 Initiative is intended to develop the market by working with upstream and 00:20:22.510 --> 00:20:27.220 midstream actors. In the upstream strategy, the TECH implementer should 00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:30.100 partner with manufacturers to encourage them to make 00:20:30.100 --> 00:20:35.139 the most efficient equipment available at competitive prices. In the midstream 00:20:35.139 --> 00:20:39.100 strategy, the implementer would provide incentives to wholesale distributors, 00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:45.250 retailers, ecommerce companies, and/or contractors to stock and/or sell more 00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:48.471 efficient products. Finally, we are asking 00:20:48.483 --> 00:20:51.340 Energy division to conduct a workshop 00:20:51.340 --> 00:20:55.899 to focus on stakeholder concerns for fund stacking. From this workshop, 00:20:55.899 --> 00:20:59.559 Energy division staff will produce a staff proposal with a framework for how 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:01.718 to address funding when combining 00:21:01.730 --> 00:21:04.559 incentives from separate program budgets. 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:11.500 As we move to develop a comprehensive policy framework, we will be developing 00:21:11.500 --> 00:21:16.419 evaluation metrics with an eye towards developing self-sustaining practices. 00:21:16.419 --> 00:21:21.129 Whereby targeted technologies or approaches can immediately be scaled to 00:21:21.129 --> 00:21:27.279 result in market transformation. As both pilot programs proceed, we will consider 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.610 further building decarbonisation efforts in this 00:21:30.610 --> 00:21:35.799 proceeding. In future phases of the rulemaking, we will explore potential 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:39.519 pilot programs to address new construction in areas damaged by 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:45.429 wildfires, coordinate CPUC policies with Title 24 building energy efficiency 00:21:45.429 --> 00:21:49.509 standards and Title 20 appliance efficiency standards developed at the 00:21:49.509 --> 00:21:54.309 Energy Commission, and establish a comprehensive building decarbonisation 00:21:54.309 --> 00:21:59.679 policy framework. I hope that these two pilot programs can be used to raise 00:21:59.679 --> 00:22:04.000 awareness of building decarbonization technologies and 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:10.419 applications, test program policy design and approaches, and give us practical 00:22:10.419 --> 00:22:14.909 implementation experience and knowledge to develop a larger scale approach. I 00:22:14.909 --> 00:22:19.870 would also like to take a moment to acknowledge all of the staff work around 00:22:19.870 --> 00:22:24.519 this PD. In particular, I would like to thank Administrative Law Judge Colin 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:29.529 Rizzo for his hard work and dedication and ALJ Julie Fitch for her invaluable 00:22:29.529 --> 00:22:35.350 insight. I'd also like to thank the building decarb team from Energy 00:22:35.350 --> 00:22:41.330 division, including Nix Sanjani, Rory Cox, Abbi Whatha, 00:22:41.330 --> 00:22:48.290 Eric Johnson, Joy Morgenstern, and all under the management of Pete Scala. We 00:22:48.290 --> 00:22:54.790 had plenty of help from Jack Mulligan from Legal, and a lot of help input and 00:22:54.790 --> 00:23:00.590 thoughts from the staff and management of the Energy Commission in developing 00:23:00.590 --> 00:23:03.264 the joint staff proposal, my Bagley-Keene 00:23:03.276 --> 00:23:05.450 partner, President Batjer and her 00:23:05.450 --> 00:23:07.720 advisor, Josh Honeycutt, former President 00:23:07.732 --> 00:23:09.470 Michael Picker for getting this 00:23:09.470 --> 00:23:12.281 rulemaking started and his advisor Forest 00:23:12.293 --> 00:23:14.780 Kaiser. Finally, I'd like to thank my 00:23:14.780 --> 00:23:19.610 Chief of Staff, Christine Powell, and my advisors Suzanne Cassava and Ana 00:23:19.610 --> 00:23:25.150 Durvasula. Lastly, I'll just note that this program is going to depend a lot on 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:30.860 community outreach in developing the framework for implementation, and we 00:23:30.860 --> 00:23:35.120 realize that are going to be challenging in this current situation that the 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:39.230 country is in, so we will certainly work with all of our implementers to try to 00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:43.670 be as flexible as possible in ensuring the effectiveness of this program. With 00:23:43.670 --> 00:23:46.953 that, I ask your support for this proposed decision. 00:23:46.978 --> 00:23:48.440 Thank you, Commissioner 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:56.480 Randolph. Are there any comments on item 19. Yes, Commissioner 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:58.460 Rechtschaffen? 00:23:58.485 --> 00:24:01.370 Thank you. I just 00:24:01.382 --> 00:24:04.400 wanted to say a few quick things. I want to thank 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:09.890 Commissioner Randolph for her leadership on this important issue and for 00:24:09.890 --> 00:24:15.860 systematically working through many difficult issues and charting a path 00:24:15.860 --> 00:24:22.850 forward that's sensible, pragmatic, but also bold. The decision reads very 00:24:22.850 --> 00:24:27.230 well, but there's lots of things that went into the decision and lots of 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:31.580 collaboration, and I really want to commend you for all the work you put in, 00:24:31.580 --> 00:24:39.530 along with the staff and judges. This is a very important proceeding, and it 00:24:39.530 --> 00:24:46.130 addresses a considerable challenge that we face in California on our way to a 00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:52.820 clean energy economy. Heating fuels are responsible for about twelve percent of 00:24:52.820 --> 00:24:57.140 our GHG emissions. We are more dependent on gas heating, both 00:24:57.140 --> 00:25:02.420 commercially and residentially, for our appliances than most of the rest of the 00:25:02.420 --> 00:25:09.580 country is, and to date, we really have not made a great deal of progress in 00:25:09.580 --> 00:25:12.736 decarbonizing this sector. We need to 00:25:12.748 --> 00:25:16.429 change that. There are now more efficient 00:25:16.429 --> 00:25:23.290 and more cost-effective alternatives out there that we need to take advantage of. 00:25:23.290 --> 00:25:28.550 As Commissioner Randolph explained, the decision establishes a framework for 00:25:28.550 --> 00:25:35.000 implementation of two pilots to spur the markets for the electrification of new 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:41.990 and existing buildings and appliances. And importantly, this made these pilots 00:25:41.990 --> 00:25:47.600 will set a foundation for a larger scale approach in the future, a much larger 00:25:47.600 --> 00:25:51.910 scale approach that we need, as we've done with many other clean energy 00:25:51.910 --> 00:25:58.700 technologies here in California, including rooftop solar batteries, 00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:05.480 electric vehicles, and so forth. I especially appreciate the priority in 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:13.250 the decision for new projects and low income communities communities, do all 00:26:13.250 --> 00:26:17.410 electric projects in low-income communities that's established by the 00:26:17.410 --> 00:26:21.590 decision. So again thank you very much. I will be supporting the proposed 00:26:21.590 --> 00:26:23.428 decision. 00:26:23.453 --> 00:26:26.037 Thank you, Commissioner 00:26:26.049 --> 00:26:28.941 Rechtschaffen. Are there other comments? Okay, I 00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:33.850 think we're all going to comment. Yes, Commissioner Shiroma? 00:26:33.875 --> 00:26:35.540 Thank you. This is a 00:26:35.540 --> 00:26:39.083 tremendous effort. Thank you, Commissioner 00:26:39.095 --> 00:26:42.650 Randolph, and to the team of judges, Judge 00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:47.120 Rizzo, Victory, and Fitch. The Energy division, thorough, 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:55.429 thoughtful is a major step towards the effort to decarbonize buildings, 00:26:55.429 --> 00:26:58.922 residential buildings, and we use this long 00:26:58.934 --> 00:27:02.120 word, decarbonization, but essentially, 00:27:02.120 --> 00:27:08.640 what we're talking about is lowering the reliance upon gas, 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.590 gas appliances, gas heating, or what have you. 00:27:12.590 --> 00:27:16.347 Especially, appreciative of the focus on 00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:20.220 the best expertise out there, towards the 00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:26.670 effective tools, the metrics, to really see what best practices there are and 00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:31.200 looking at synergies with different programs. I'm especially looking forward 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:38.310 to learning how we can effectively apply these efforts to the Energy Savings 00:27:38.310 --> 00:27:43.620 Assistance Program, which submission in the presentation has to do with the 00:27:43.620 --> 00:27:50.850 low-income households that qualify for weatherization and appliances towards 00:27:50.850 --> 00:27:56.600 helping them reduce their greenhouse gas footprint and, also, provide for greater 00:27:56.600 --> 00:28:03.360 health, safety and comfort, and also reduce bills. So thank you very much for 00:28:03.360 --> 00:28:08.070 the for the tremendous effort. Looking forward to the aye vote. 00:28:08.070 --> 00:28:09.170 Thanks a lot. 00:28:09.195 --> 00:28:10.962 Thank you, Commissioner 00:28:10.974 --> 00:28:12.470 Shiroma. Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 00:28:12.470 --> 00:28:15.490 Thank you, President 00:28:15.502 --> 00:28:17.880 Batjer. I also wanted to express all my 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.255 gratitude for all the work that has gone 00:28:20.267 --> 00:28:22.770 into this PD and just kind of reflect, and 00:28:22.770 --> 00:28:32.040 maybe, raise up a slightly more, not so granular level of what we're 00:28:32.040 --> 00:28:34.637 dealing with, both with this item and the 00:28:34.649 --> 00:28:37.320 next item, ironically. I think, as someone 00:28:37.320 --> 00:28:41.550 who spent part of their career as a clean air advocate, looking at natural 00:28:41.550 --> 00:28:44.122 gas as a pollutant has taken some 00:28:44.134 --> 00:28:47.580 transition for me, personally, and I think 00:28:47.580 --> 00:28:52.020 is something that our society will be dealing with as well. Over the last five 00:28:52.020 --> 00:28:58.500 years, I've learned a tremendous heating and warming impacts of natural gas. As 00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:03.960 you know, the major component of natural gas is methane, and methane per gram is 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.166 anywhere from, you know, depending on the 00:29:07.178 --> 00:29:10.320 study, 25 to 35 of a greater warmer than 00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:17.760 carbon. Each gram of methane is 25 to 35 times more potent than each gram of 00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:22.010 carbon. And I think that's why we're seeing this proposal today, 00:29:22.010 --> 00:29:23.835 and the leadership of some of the 00:29:23.847 --> 00:29:26.240 senators, particularly Senator Stern, the 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.860 author of the legislation, to address this warming issue. As a Senator who's 00:29:30.860 --> 00:29:34.670 dealing with the impacts of this climate change, particularly wildfires and 00:29:34.670 --> 00:29:39.920 droughts, we're all very dedicated to seeing our reduction and dependency on 00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.905 natural gas alleviated. As LeAnn and 00:29:42.917 --> 00:29:46.580 Cliff, I believe, mentioned that a quarter 00:29:46.580 --> 00:29:49.945 of our emissions in the state come from our 00:29:49.957 --> 00:29:53.180 use in natural gas. About half of that is 00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:58.340 in our homes and the other half of that is in the generation of electricity, and 00:29:58.340 --> 00:30:04.430 we have to take them all on together. This is, as Californians, we are 00:30:04.430 --> 00:30:06.670 completely dependent on importing this 00:30:06.682 --> 00:30:09.290 natural gas, and so, it's a system that we 00:30:09.290 --> 00:30:15.140 need to tackle on all ends of its final use. I also wanted to say in addition to 00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:20.390 the climate impacts of natural gas, another real driver for me is the 00:30:20.390 --> 00:30:24.680 economic instability of depending on this commodity and the commodity price 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:29.139 and the market that's completely untarriffed and unregulated. 00:30:29.151 --> 00:30:32.900 We saw some of these impacts of market manipulation 00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:35.315 over the recent years, and is another driver 00:30:35.327 --> 00:30:37.430 for me to really be energy independent 00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:43.820 and resilient is actually the economic side of depending on natural gas. So for 00:30:43.820 --> 00:30:50.900 these reasons, and these particular reasons of economic and environmental 00:30:50.900 --> 00:30:55.070 sustainability, I'm very excited, and as everyone's mentioned, I'm particularly 00:30:55.070 --> 00:30:59.900 thankful that we're starting with the most economically disadvantaged and 00:30:59.900 --> 00:31:06.080 trying to bridge this divide to getting people to be able to transition in, you 00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:09.175 know, in a really, you know, pathway that's 00:31:09.187 --> 00:31:11.870 actually providing some stability. So 00:31:11.870 --> 00:31:14.699 thank you very much for your leadership. 00:31:14.724 --> 00:31:18.080 Thank you very much, Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:23.960 I was going to add some comments, but my gosh, I can't do any better than 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.210 my fellow Commissioners. I will just say, 00:31:26.222 --> 00:31:28.430 I thank you very much to my Bagley-Keene 00:31:28.430 --> 00:31:34.220 team partner, Commissioner Randolph, and I would give a great deal of thanks to 00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:39.500 former Commissioner Picker, who, as you noted, started this. I want to 00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:43.543 add my thanks to Judge Rizzo and to Julie 00:31:43.555 --> 00:31:47.030 Fitch for their efforts, and my own 00:31:47.030 --> 00:31:52.040 staff member, advisor Josh Honeycutt, for the work that he did, as you 00:31:52.040 --> 00:31:54.971 mentioned, Commission Randolph, and also, to 00:31:54.983 --> 00:31:57.860 a former advisor, and that's Forest Phaser. 00:31:57.860 --> 00:32:02.420 So I won't add to all the eloquent comments. I'm strongly, strongly in 00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:09.970 support. So with that, I think we can have the agenda clerk call the roll. 00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:13.273 For Item 19, Comissioner Shiroma? 00:32:13.298 --> 00:32:13.767 Aye. 00:32:13.793 --> 00:32:16.487 Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 00:32:16.512 --> 00:32:17.354 Aye. 00:32:17.379 --> 00:32:19.255 Commissioner Randolph. 00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:19.880 Aye. 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.734 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:23.387 Aye. 00:32:23.412 --> 00:32:25.271 President Batjer. 00:32:25.296 --> 00:32:30.980 Aye. Thank you, the vote is unanimous for number 19. 00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:33.413 Thank you so much again. And now, moving 00:32:33.425 --> 00:32:35.930 on to item 20, which is also Commissioner 00:32:35.930 --> 00:32:40.430 Randolph's items. The electric resource portfolios to inform integrated resource 00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:42.963 plans and transmission planning. 00:32:42.988 --> 00:32:45.970 All right. Thank you, President Batjer. 00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:51.340 Today, I present to you item 20, which is the proposed decision setting 00:32:51.340 --> 00:32:57.560 procurement guidance for load serving entities in the IRP proceeding. In IRP, 00:32:57.560 --> 00:33:02.060 the reference system portfolio is the optimal resource portfolio that meets 00:33:02.060 --> 00:33:07.580 multiple state goals, including meeting GHG reduction and reliability targets at 00:33:07.580 --> 00:33:12.350 least cost. The reference system portfolio provides guidance to LSEs 00:33:12.350 --> 00:33:16.460 about how they should be planning for procurement and what 00:33:16.460 --> 00:33:19.715 combination of resources is optimal for 00:33:19.727 --> 00:33:23.330 the system as a whole. This is the second 00:33:23.330 --> 00:33:26.648 time we've adopted an RFP, and as always, 00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:29.990 it is a very complex policy decision, and 00:33:29.990 --> 00:33:36.260 we need to evaluate all of the possible pathways going forward and consider very 00:33:36.260 --> 00:33:41.300 carefully what it means to translate this theoretical modeling exercise to 00:33:41.300 --> 00:33:44.998 real-life procurement going forward. In 00:33:45.010 --> 00:33:49.100 this proposed decision, we selected a GHG 00:33:49.100 --> 00:33:53.760 target of 46 mmt, which represents the same 00:33:53.760 --> 00:34:01.650 ambitious goal from our last IRP cycle. For context a 46mmt target by 2030 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:08.460 is about 56 percent below 1990 levels, which outpaces the states policy to 00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:14.849 reduce economy-wide emissions to 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030. In 00:34:14.849 --> 00:34:19.679 other words, this portfolio has the electric sector taking on a greater 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.770 share of emission reductions relative to other sectors of the California economy. 00:34:24.770 --> 00:34:30.629 The 46 mmt target keeps the electric sector on a trajectory to meet the 00:34:30.629 --> 00:34:33.598 state's SB 100 goal of zero carbon 00:34:33.610 --> 00:34:37.379 electricity by 2045, while accounting for 00:34:37.379 --> 00:34:41.790 the uncertainty around electrification loads expected to increase in the years 00:34:41.790 --> 00:34:48.179 immediately following 2030. To meet the 2030 goal, this proposal calls for 00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:53.129 substantial and unprecedented investments in new resources. It 00:34:53.129 --> 00:34:58.920 identifies the need for nearly 25,000 megawatts of new capacity to be built in 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.480 the state by 2030. Approximately double the 12,200 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:08.730 megawatts of new capacity previously identified. This would lead to 00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:14.250 approximately 11,000 megawatts of utility scale solar PV which would 00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:19.859 require roughly doubling California's current installed utility scale solar PV 00:35:19.859 --> 00:35:25.589 capacity by 2030, 8900 megawatts of new battery storage, 00:35:25.589 --> 00:35:31.890 which is roughly eight times the total installed battery capacity nationwide as 00:35:31.890 --> 00:35:40.349 of 2018. 3400 megawatts of utility scale wind which would represent a 30% 00:35:40.349 --> 00:35:46.200 increase over California's current installed wind capacity by 2030. And a 00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:52.560 1000 megawatts of new long duration storage. These historic levels of 00:35:52.560 --> 00:35:56.750 renewable procurement will be a significant challenge to achieve, and 00:35:56.750 --> 00:36:01.440 California load serving entities are ready to do their part to keep the 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:09.960 electric sector on path we are SB 100 goals. The 46mmt target 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.640 has a revenue requirement of approximately 45.7 00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:22.770 billion dollars annually, while the 38mmt target is estimated at 1.1 00:36:22.770 --> 00:36:29.670 billion dollars more annually, and the 30 million metric ton target would cost 00:36:29.670 --> 00:36:36.480 approximately an additional 2.4 billion dollars annually. And this is before 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:41.580 accounting for the other increasing cost across the electricity sector for 00:36:41.580 --> 00:36:46.200 resiliency and hardening and other improvements made to the system 00:36:46.200 --> 00:36:52.950 over time. For that reason, this decision concluded that the 46mmt is 00:36:52.950 --> 00:36:58.260 still an appropriate GHG target for our LSEs because it keeps us on track with 00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:04.410 GHG reduction. We are satisfied with how it performed during the reliability 00:37:04.410 --> 00:37:07.571 check, and even at significant investment 00:37:07.583 --> 00:37:10.680 on the part of ratepayers, it represents 00:37:10.680 --> 00:37:15.320 the most affordable portfolio to achieve those goals. 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:20.730 However, the reference system portfolio is not the endpoint. It's really the 00:37:20.730 --> 00:37:25.619 first step in this cycle. The next step is for the load serving entities to 00:37:25.619 --> 00:37:31.740 submit their portfolios on September 1st of these years, of this year, and those 00:37:31.740 --> 00:37:37.140 portfolios are aggregated into the preferred system portfolio, and based on 00:37:37.140 --> 00:37:41.280 the results of that aggregation, the Commission may choose to adopt a lower 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:46.920 target along with, as part of the new preferred system portfolio after 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:55.470 consideration of the individual LSE IRPs. The process in the PD that was 00:37:55.470 --> 00:37:59.850 circulated for comment was that the Commission would use the 46 mmt target 00:37:59.850 --> 00:38:04.440 in the preferred system portfolio, and that we would revisit that target in the 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:11.340 next cycle of IRP. A number of parties however are still concerned that the 46 00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:16.410 mmt target is too high and argue that the electric sector should do a heavier 00:38:16.410 --> 00:38:19.630 lift in this cycle of IRP to support the 00:38:19.630 --> 00:38:22.553 state's broader climate goals. Therefore, 00:38:22.565 --> 00:38:25.360 we have revised the decision to require 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.980 all LSEs, when filing their individual IRPs, 00:38:29.980 --> 00:38:36.580 to submit at least two portfolios. One that conforms to the 46 mmt planning 00:38:36.580 --> 00:38:42.640 target and a second that would conform to their respective share of a 38 mmt 00:38:42.640 --> 00:38:48.910 target. Our modeling team has run a scenario that achieves a 38 mmt 00:38:48.910 --> 00:38:54.700 target by 2030. In addition to the reference system plan that achieves 46 00:38:54.700 --> 00:39:01.030 mmt. And both portfolios will serve as guides for LSEs as they prepare their 00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:06.550 individual IRPs. Having LSE submit their plans toward the 00:39:06.550 --> 00:39:12.850 additional target of 38 mmt will allow us to conduct a more practical and 00:39:12.850 --> 00:39:17.950 less theoretical analysis of what resources are needed to achieve that 38 00:39:17.950 --> 00:39:22.120 mmt target from the perspective of the individual LSEs 00:39:22.120 --> 00:39:26.950 doing the planning and procurement. It will enable us to analyze and compare at 00:39:26.950 --> 00:39:31.390 least two different aggregated portfolios as candidates for the next 00:39:31.390 --> 00:39:38.650 preferred system portfolio and revisit the GHG planning target in a shorter 00:39:38.650 --> 00:39:44.350 time frame with the benefit of that additional information. Further, we are 00:39:44.350 --> 00:39:49.390 permitting LSEs to file alternative portfolios that go even deeper than 38 00:39:49.390 --> 00:39:53.770 mmt should they determine that they have the time resources and motivation 00:39:53.770 --> 00:40:00.100 to do so. Those alternative portfolios may utilize different load forecasts and 00:40:00.100 --> 00:40:04.540 modifiers, but for that reason, they will not be considered eligible for 00:40:04.540 --> 00:40:09.030 aggregation into the preferred system portfolio but will provide information 00:40:09.030 --> 00:40:17.500 to guide analysis in the future. In the meantime, we strongly encourage LSEs to 00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:22.050 initiate planning to develop and procure the resources identified in this 00:40:22.050 --> 00:40:24.862 reference system plan. To facilitate this, 00:40:24.874 --> 00:40:27.370 we will be considering new actions in 00:40:27.370 --> 00:40:30.106 the procurement tract of this proceeding. 00:40:30.118 --> 00:40:32.080 While we endorse the need for 00:40:32.080 --> 00:40:35.950 development of new long-duration storage and out-of-state wind in this decision 00:40:35.950 --> 00:40:40.330 today, we will continue to explore the need for other types of renewables 00:40:40.330 --> 00:40:45.790 including geothermal and offshore wind resources. As we look for opportunities 00:40:45.790 --> 00:40:52.120 to meet resource diversity and capacity needs in the future. We also recognize 00:40:52.120 --> 00:40:55.780 the need to provide further guidance regarding the procurement of long lead 00:40:55.780 --> 00:40:58.628 time resources that, by their nature, will 00:40:58.640 --> 00:41:01.300 require multiple LSEs to be involved as 00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:06.340 off-takers. These are just a couple of goals, among several, that we hope to 00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:09.858 achieve in that procurement track this year. 00:41:09.870 --> 00:41:12.850 In addition, I will note that, in the 00:41:12.850 --> 00:41:17.260 next IRP cycle, we will have the benefit of updated analysis from both 00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:22.840 the joint agency SB 100 report, which will review the state's goal of 100% 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:29.470 zero carbon electricity by 2045, as well as the carb scoping plan update expected 00:41:29.470 --> 00:41:36.430 in 2022. In our next cycle of IRP, the Commission will also extend the 2030 00:41:36.430 --> 00:41:40.330 planning horizon which will provide further analysis of the near-term 00:41:40.330 --> 00:41:46.600 build-out and how it relates to a longer set of future goals. As I noted above, 00:41:46.600 --> 00:41:54.280 both the 46 mmt portfolio and the 38 mmt portfolios would achieve significant 00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.040 greenhouse gas reductions. Many parties advocated a 30 mmt target which would 00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:04.000 mean the electric sector would take on an even heavier load in meeting our 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.480 economy-wide target. We need to keep in mind that the electricity sector is only 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.310 about 20% of our greenhouse gas emissions, and that is a sector that is 00:42:15.310 --> 00:42:19.570 also dealing with significant increase in cost as a result of having to both 00:42:19.570 --> 00:42:25.230 mitigate and adapt to the effects of climate change at the same time. 00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:29.470 Therefore, I do not believe the Commission should take on that lift 00:42:29.470 --> 00:42:34.600 without having a more, direct statewide conversation about economy-wide goals 00:42:34.600 --> 00:42:39.390 and our strategy for achieving those goals. If we are going to electrify 00:42:39.390 --> 00:42:44.380 transportation and decarbonize buildings, we need to ensure that our 00:42:44.380 --> 00:42:49.509 rate structure does not make that transition infeasible or undesirable to 00:42:49.509 --> 00:42:53.829 the millions of Californians who will need to make individual choices to make 00:42:53.829 --> 00:42:59.559 deeper electrification happen. And if, in the context of an 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:04.390 economy-wide analysis, the state decides that the electric sector needs to do 00:43:04.390 --> 00:43:06.873 even more, the conversation, we need to 00:43:06.885 --> 00:43:09.700 have a conversation about how to socialize 00:43:09.700 --> 00:43:14.500 those costs more broadly across the economy instead of solely funneled 00:43:14.500 --> 00:43:18.880 through electricity customers. I look forward to having those conversations as 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:26.470 part of the SB 100 report and as part of carb scoping work. And now for the thank 00:43:26.470 --> 00:43:32.170 yous. First, I want to thank the many parties who participated so actively in 00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:34.982 the IRP preceding. Its very detailed work, often 00:43:34.994 --> 00:43:37.990 under short timelines to keep the--(audio cuts out) 00:43:37.990 --> 00:43:43.618 Uh-oh. LeAnn. We've lost you. We lost 00:43:43.630 --> 00:43:49.269 your audio. We have your visual, there you go, you're on. 00:43:49.269 --> 00:44:03.009 Go ahead. Okay. That was weird. Okay so I was thanking the party 00:44:03.009 --> 00:44:08.680 for all their work. I want to thank, of course, Administrative 00:44:08.680 --> 00:44:15.970 Law Judge Julie Fitch for her tireless work on this proceeding. She manages to 00:44:15.970 --> 00:44:19.839 keep an eye on the big picture and to delve into minute details at the same 00:44:19.839 --> 00:44:25.299 time which is a rare and precious skill and the state is indeed fortunate to 00:44:25.299 --> 00:44:31.690 have her. In Energy division, I want to thank, again, Paul Douglas, the IRP 00:44:31.690 --> 00:44:35.319 supervisor who put a tremendous amount of work into this effort before his 00:44:35.319 --> 00:44:41.650 retirement. And Tamale Circle and Nathan Barsik who have each taken the mantle at 00:44:41.650 --> 00:44:47.200 different times as the interim IRP supervisor since Paul's departure, and I 00:44:47.200 --> 00:44:55.440 really appreciate Nathan's ongoing work in that role. Thank you to the IRP team. 00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:01.960 Neil Raffin, Carolina Masblanca, James McGarry, Alias Rocky, David 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.700 Withrow, former member Paula Grueling, who is now working in Energy 00:45:06.700 --> 00:45:13.360 Efficiency. I want to thank our always impressive and ever patient in-house 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:17.680 modeling group, the Energy Resource Modeling team, affectionately known as 00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:22.530 ERM. Donald Brooks, Patrick Young, Fred Taylor Hokberg, 00:45:22.530 --> 00:45:30.040 all of whom have been extremely patient with me as I asked for a different 00:45:30.040 --> 00:45:35.830 scenario or different sensitivity over and over and over again. All these teams 00:45:35.830 --> 00:45:37.930 have worked tirelessly over the last 18 00:45:37.942 --> 00:45:40.270 months to help make this decision happen. 00:45:40.270 --> 00:45:45.010 I want to thank my B-K partner President Batjer and her advisor Josh 00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:49.650 Honeycutt. My former chief of staff Rachel Peterson for her hard work 00:45:49.650 --> 00:45:56.860 throughout IRP. Thank you to my current Chief of Staff Kristine Powell, keeping 00:45:56.860 --> 00:46:00.399 things going. And my advisors, Jason Ortego 00:46:00.411 --> 00:46:03.640 and Suzanne Cassava. Jason and Suzanne, 00:46:03.640 --> 00:46:09.160 in particular, have both advised me and have also helped Energy division staff 00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:13.240 with the filing template and other detailed work. I appreciate their 00:46:13.240 --> 00:46:15.892 flexibility and dedication to making this 00:46:15.904 --> 00:46:18.250 process successful. With that, I ask 00:46:18.250 --> 00:46:21.701 you for your support of this decision. 00:46:21.726 --> 00:46:24.970 Wow. Thank you so much, Commissioner Randolph. 00:46:24.970 --> 00:46:32.310 Are there other comments on item number 20? I'm sure there are. 00:46:32.490 --> 00:46:38.003 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. I see you. You're nodding yes. 00:46:38.028 --> 00:46:39.841 Yes. Thank you. 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.920 Thank you, President Batjer, and thank you, Commissioner Randolph, and for 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:48.280 everyone that you've mentioned that I won't repeat, for their hard work in 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.925 getting to this decision. And for many of 00:46:51.937 --> 00:46:55.420 the difficult conversations about where 00:46:55.420 --> 00:46:58.660 we're headed and at what pace we're headed. Fortunately, we're all headed to 00:46:58.660 --> 00:47:04.090 the same place which is what SB 100 has for us is a 00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:10.420 hundred percent clean energy by 2045. I wanted to just reflect on the last item 00:47:10.420 --> 00:47:14.440 and how we discussed that natural gas is really the 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:18.610 driver for a quarter of our emissions here in the state, and it's a particular 00:47:18.610 --> 00:47:23.290 growing emitter internationally. So how we address our heating and electric 00:47:23.290 --> 00:47:28.000 needs in California is really critical, both for us but also for the world. 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.841 I think, obviously, in our last decision, 00:47:31.853 --> 00:47:35.430 we're figuring out ways to incentivize 00:47:35.430 --> 00:47:40.450 all of our residence, commercial, industrial switching from gas to 00:47:40.450 --> 00:47:45.880 electric, and obviously, we cannot do that in isolation of ensuring that our 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:51.940 electricity is cleaner and cleaner. And fundamentally, we really can't continue 00:47:51.940 --> 00:47:58.840 to retain the entire importation structure of the gas system just for our 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:03.940 gas generators. This capacity that our gas generation currently provides is 00:48:03.940 --> 00:48:09.370 something we need to take on and we need to replace. It's not worth retaining the 00:48:09.370 --> 00:48:13.480 entire gas infrastructure and the importation of that fuel just for this 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:20.020 generation. I really want to thank you for allowing for the IRP goal. It's a 00:48:20.020 --> 00:48:26.230 target to be reduced to 38 million metric tons and I call upon the LSEs to 00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:31.240 show leadership and take the opportunity to plan for a 30 million metric ton 00:48:31.240 --> 00:48:35.680 because I believe that is the only way we will realistically meet our 2045 00:48:35.680 --> 00:48:41.770 goals. Now, more than ever, there's an opportunity to act locally. Each locally 00:48:41.770 --> 00:48:47.800 constrained area has capacity needs that must be met locally, and now with 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.720 multiple LSEs that share these local areas, there is a vital role for the 00:48:52.720 --> 00:48:56.620 Commission to provide for the planning and potential ordering of procurement, 00:48:56.620 --> 00:49:01.180 joint procurement, and as Commissioner Randolph mentioned, some that needs long 00:49:01.180 --> 00:49:05.169 lead time. We need to help these LSEs 00:49:05.181 --> 00:49:09.940 collaborate, plan, and procure jointly for 00:49:09.940 --> 00:49:12.068 these locally constrained needs and the 00:49:12.080 --> 00:49:14.440 capacity needs that need to replace them. 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:19.720 So we cannot, so that we do not continue to depend on this immense importation 00:49:19.720 --> 00:49:26.430 infrastructure of natural gas. I want to thank, also want to take the 00:49:26.430 --> 00:49:32.340 time to recognize all the youth that has participated in this process. We don't 00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:37.440 often hear from that sector of Californians, and for whatever reason, 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.840 they have, obviously for the impact of this great decision, that they have 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.820 really engaged on this, and I want them to know that they have been heard, and 00:49:46.820 --> 00:49:51.240 and we look forward to their continued involvement and to their continued 00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:53.912 involvement locally because that's really 00:49:53.924 --> 00:49:56.160 where the action goes now, it goes 00:49:56.160 --> 00:50:01.740 to the local LSEs in making their plans as robust as possible. So thank you 00:50:01.740 --> 00:50:06.083 very much and I look forward to supporting this. 00:50:06.108 --> 00:50:07.531 Thank you. 00:50:07.530 --> 00:50:12.548 Commissioner Rechtschaffen, would you like to make some comments? 00:50:12.573 --> 00:50:14.221 Thank you, President 00:50:14.220 --> 00:50:17.371 Batjer, and thank you, Commissioner 00:50:17.383 --> 00:50:21.360 Randolph, Judge Fitch, and others for your 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:27.150 extremely hard work on all the planning, modeling, and analysis involved in this 00:50:27.150 --> 00:50:31.890 decision and for the revisions to the decisions over the past couple of weeks 00:50:31.890 --> 00:50:38.310 that clarified things and provided more flexibility. I very much appreciate the 00:50:38.310 --> 00:50:43.710 change that requires load serving entities that submit plans that conform 00:50:43.710 --> 00:50:51.210 to a lower target of 38 million metric tons. I would have supported that target 00:50:51.210 --> 00:50:54.492 in this current plan. I think it's needed 00:50:54.504 --> 00:50:57.720 to ensure that we're in the best path to 00:50:57.720 --> 00:51:04.740 get to our 2030 and 2045 GHG reduction goals. It would also mean lower 00:51:04.740 --> 00:51:09.270 emissions of other air pollutants, and while the cost differential is not 00:51:09.270 --> 00:51:14.940 nothing, as Commissioner Randolph very accurately explained, it's 00:51:14.940 --> 00:51:19.890 quite small given the scale of costs that will be entailed in this 00:51:19.890 --> 00:51:22.626 procurement. But in any case, I hope that 00:51:22.638 --> 00:51:25.320 when the load serving entities do submit 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:31.140 the two plans that the decision now requires, we will have the analysis to 00:51:31.140 --> 00:51:36.750 fully evaluate and consider the lower target of 38 million metric tons 00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:44.700 and adopt it at that point. I also very much appreciate the revisions in the 00:51:44.700 --> 00:51:50.970 decision that provide increased flexibility for load serving entities to 00:51:50.970 --> 00:51:54.060 plans for even lower emissions, as Commissioner Randolph 00:51:54.060 --> 00:51:59.760 articulated, to also do procurement that allows for the retirement of existing 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:05.250 gas plants, and to procure a different mix of technologies. The decision is 00:52:05.250 --> 00:52:09.810 quite responsive to the concerns that I think were appropriately raised by load 00:52:09.810 --> 00:52:12.348 serving entities, and this makes it clear 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.850 that if they want to do more faster in a 00:52:14.850 --> 00:52:18.890 different way, they are not precluded from doing so. 00:52:18.890 --> 00:52:22.069 I'm also appreciative of the decision to 00:52:22.081 --> 00:52:25.350 grant the petition for modification. That 00:52:25.350 --> 00:52:31.320 concerns the 3,300 megawatts of resource adequacy procurement that we ordered 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:37.470 last year. The modification makes clear what was not totally clear from our last 00:52:37.470 --> 00:52:44.670 decision and it prohibits procurement of new gas turbines using fossil fuel, it 00:52:44.670 --> 00:52:50.760 allows for the expansion of existing capacity or, excuse me, the expansion of 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:57.620 capacity at existing sites, distant gas plants, but only if the projects 00:52:57.620 --> 00:53:03.150 incorporate energy storage or use other technology that reduces the rate of GHG 00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.461 emissions. There are certain technologies 00:53:05.473 --> 00:53:07.740 and certain projects that we've seen can 00:53:07.740 --> 00:53:13.230 be beneficial, and we want to encourage that while not allowing for entirely new 00:53:13.230 --> 00:53:18.960 retrofits or expansions that have no environmental benefit. And finally, I 00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:22.531 think in order to meet the goals in SB 350 00:53:22.543 --> 00:53:25.710 that the IRPs minimize air pollutants 00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:30.840 especially in disadvantaged communities, I think it's important that, in the next 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.390 IRP cycle, we have analysis from the Energy division. Either in this 00:53:36.390 --> 00:53:39.906 proceeding or otherwise, an analysis that 00:53:39.918 --> 00:53:43.110 identifies potential opportunities in 00:53:43.110 --> 00:53:46.622 each local area, each local capacity area, 00:53:46.634 --> 00:53:49.830 to retire existing gas plants. I think 00:53:49.830 --> 00:53:53.499 that's most consistent with the spirit of thatprovision in SB 00:53:53.499 --> 00:53:55.976 350. With those comments, I will be 00:53:55.988 --> 00:53:59.259 supporting the proposed decision. Thank you. 00:53:59.259 --> 00:54:01.587 Thank you very much 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.660 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. Commissioner Shiroma? 00:54:04.685 --> 00:54:06.460 Yes, thank 00:54:06.460 --> 00:54:11.170 you. The only other comments I would add to my 00:54:11.170 --> 00:54:15.940 colleagues is, well, first of all, again, tremendous thanks to Commissioner 00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:18.956 Randolph and the team that she 00:54:18.968 --> 00:54:23.410 acknowledged that this is a, once again, a 00:54:23.410 --> 00:54:31.769 very complicated endeavor as we as a Commission navigate, first of all, that 00:54:31.769 --> 00:54:40.210 electricity and energy is essential for life itself, for quality of life, for 00:54:40.210 --> 00:54:47.979 the people of California to have clean drinking water, to have the 00:54:47.979 --> 00:54:53.940 resources that they need to go about doing everything that has to be done, 00:54:53.940 --> 00:55:01.799 including the support of essential services and hospitals and so forth. And 00:55:01.799 --> 00:55:08.069 providing for the criteria of sustainability reliability, and 00:55:08.069 --> 00:55:19.089 affordability. Even as we are looking to set the tone for the future, that 25,000 00:55:19.089 --> 00:55:30.460 plus new megawatts as the 38 is also modeled into this next phase. 25,000 new 00:55:30.460 --> 00:55:35.529 megawatts of energy sources that are going 00:55:35.541 --> 00:55:40.150 to substantially reduce our greenhouse 00:55:40.150 --> 00:55:44.291 gas footprint in California. Even as this 00:55:44.303 --> 00:55:48.160 electricity sector is less than 1/4 of 00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:50.923 the contributor to the greenhouse gas 00:55:50.935 --> 00:55:54.309 footprint of Californians. So I think it is 00:55:54.309 --> 00:55:58.599 tremendous leadership and tremendous leadership for the other sectors that 00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:03.759 need to do their part to reduce our greenhouse gas footprint to where it 00:56:03.759 --> 00:56:10.270 used to be by 2025. I think that this iterative 00:56:10.270 --> 00:56:16.570 process is important. I view the integrated resource plan as a living 00:56:16.570 --> 00:56:19.779 document, a process that we are confidently 00:56:19.791 --> 00:56:22.060 looking to strive for. Even as 00:56:22.060 --> 00:56:29.050 today, we don't know what that technological solution is that a 00:56:29.050 --> 00:56:36.700 multitude of technilogical solutions for providing by 2045, 2030, that we are 00:56:36.700 --> 00:56:42.970 assured of having energy provided to our people of California, and that it is 00:56:42.970 --> 00:56:50.620 available 24 hours a day. And recently, I have experienced that through the 00:56:50.620 --> 00:56:57.820 wildfire seasons and through the PSPSs, how essential it is to have that 24 00:56:57.820 --> 00:57:06.660 hour reliability of our electricity sector. I really appreciate that the 00:57:06.660 --> 00:57:14.610 stakeholders who weighed in and pressed their view were listened to and the PD 00:57:14.610 --> 00:57:23.170 was revised to provide for the load serving entities to provide a 38 00:57:23.170 --> 00:57:26.048 million metric tons target as well. And that, 00:57:26.060 --> 00:57:28.510 I think, will really help inform us in 00:57:28.510 --> 00:57:31.690 the next year or so to see what 00:57:31.702 --> 00:57:36.130 adjustments need to be made. I appreciate 00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:42.220 that the integrated resource plan, while we're on in every two-year track, that 00:57:42.220 --> 00:57:50.140 there are many steps in between for making adjustments for the load serving 00:57:50.140 --> 00:57:59.020 entities, again, all towards achieving the 2030, 2045 goals. Having spent 20 00:57:59.020 --> 00:58:07.810 years at SMUD and if I look at the pro rata requirement to build and 00:58:07.810 --> 00:58:17.910 bring on 25,000 plus new megawatts of generation, that's a tall order. 00:58:18.070 --> 00:58:24.030 Having said that, I have no doubt, even as we are navigating through the COVID 00:58:24.030 --> 00:58:28.571 crisis today, I think that the California 00:58:28.583 --> 00:58:32.920 developers are up to the task, the load 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.046 serving entities are up to the task, and 00:58:35.058 --> 00:58:37.300 we we will meet it. I mean, I look forward 00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:44.370 to, in nine years, less than nine years, having 25 thousand megawatts plus 00:58:44.370 --> 00:58:50.170 online and really making a difference not only for California but for the 00:58:50.170 --> 00:58:55.810 world. So again, thank you, Commissioner Randolph, a tremendous effort. And the 00:58:55.810 --> 00:59:03.720 other Commissioners Martha Guzman Aceves who's always pushing us to do more. 00:59:03.720 --> 00:59:12.540 Commissioner Rechtschaffen who comes up with various ideas on how to 00:59:12.540 --> 00:59:15.713 navigate the specifics. And of course, 00:59:15.725 --> 00:59:19.330 President Batjer, your leadership, I look 00:59:19.330 --> 00:59:22.510 forward to supporting this proposal. Thank you. 00:59:22.510 --> 00:59:26.098 Thank You, Commissioner Shiroma, 00:59:26.110 --> 00:59:29.110 and my other fellow Commissioners. Being the 00:59:29.110 --> 00:59:32.860 little caboose on this train is sometimes hard because you all have been 00:59:32.860 --> 00:59:41.140 so eloquent and have put forth some important thinking and support for this. 00:59:41.140 --> 00:59:47.080 I just want to say, therefore, again, Leann, this has been quite an incredible 00:59:47.080 --> 00:59:51.100 thing to see. This is one of the first proceedings I was introduced to when I 00:59:51.100 --> 00:59:55.281 came on board last fall, and right away, I 00:59:55.293 --> 00:59:59.290 felt the weight of the importance of it, 00:59:59.290 --> 01:00:06.790 and the complexity of it. And your leadership and that of Judge Fitch and 01:00:06.790 --> 01:00:14.140 the Energy division and the, as has been well noted, the wonder, the incredible 01:00:14.140 --> 01:00:17.148 involvement of our stakeholders to 01:00:17.160 --> 01:00:20.980 bringing forth a, what I think, is a very 01:00:20.980 --> 01:00:27.670 very good decision. One that will double the clean energy capacity in the state 01:00:27.670 --> 01:00:31.610 over the next 10 years, and one I do believe will keep us on track 01:00:31.610 --> 01:00:36.890 2045 goals that we must meet, as has been well stated by my fellow 01:00:36.890 --> 01:00:40.010 Commissioners, not only for the good of California but really for the good of 01:00:40.010 --> 01:00:43.066 the world. So there's no small feat, no 01:00:43.078 --> 01:00:46.460 small feat indeed. So thank you again for 01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:50.479 a lot of hard work and that of your team 01:00:50.491 --> 01:00:54.620 and the rest of the folks at the CPUC. So 01:00:54.620 --> 01:01:00.650 with that, yahoo, we're going to take a vote. Would the agenda clerk 01:01:00.650 --> 01:01:05.060 please call the roll. And speak up agenda clerk. 01:01:05.085 --> 01:01:07.564 For item 20, Commissioner Shiroma. 01:01:07.589 --> 01:01:08.390 Aye 01:01:08.390 --> 01:01:10.547 Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:01:10.572 --> 01:01:11.146 Aye 01:01:11.171 --> 01:01:12.869 Commissioner Randolph. 01:01:12.895 --> 01:01:15.401 I'm going to vote 01:01:15.413 --> 01:01:17.930 aye, and I also just wanted to note that I 01:01:17.930 --> 01:01:23.300 completely forgot to thank our Energy division leadership, Ed Randolph, Simon 01:01:23.300 --> 01:01:25.531 Baker and Pete Scala for all of the work that 01:01:25.543 --> 01:01:27.590 they provided on this proceeding as well. 01:01:27.590 --> 01:01:29.269 So aye. 01:01:29.294 --> 01:01:33.053 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:01:33.078 --> 01:01:34.306 Yes. 01:01:34.331 --> 01:01:36.516 President Batjer. 01:01:36.541 --> 01:01:39.895 Yes, yes, yes. Thank you, the 01:01:39.907 --> 01:01:43.071 vote is unanimous. Thank you all very much. We 01:01:43.070 --> 01:01:50.470 will move on now the item 21, and it is again, Commissioner Randolph. 01:01:50.470 --> 01:01:53.373 Okay. Item 21. Oh, this is 01:01:53.385 --> 01:01:56.300 very exciting. This is an order extending statutory 01:01:56.300 --> 01:02:00.972 deadlines. Okay, so this is an order extending 01:02:00.984 --> 01:02:04.970 a statutory deadline for one of the two 01:02:04.970 --> 01:02:13.760 resource adequacy proceedings that we have open. We, in the R1709021 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:20.510 proceeding, we are wrapping up some issues including a proposed decision 01:02:20.510 --> 01:02:25.030 addressing the central procurement framework which we expect to issue soon. 01:02:25.030 --> 01:02:32.120 And there is also a, so we are going to be doing a statutory deadline until 01:02:32.120 --> 01:02:41.110 September 28, 2020, so we can resolve that. In addition, decision 20-03016, 01:02:41.110 --> 01:02:45.319 granted limited rehearing to augment the 01:02:45.319 --> 01:02:53.469 existing evidentiary record regarding RA import contracts. Last Friday, 01:02:53.469 --> 01:02:57.829 Administrative Law Judge Shiv issued a ruling incorporating the record 01:02:57.829 --> 01:03:05.150 developed on import issues in track one of the R1911009 01:03:05.150 --> 01:03:11.930 rulemaking into the record of the R1709201 rulemaking, which thus made it 01:03:11.930 --> 01:03:20.059 the venue for the purposes of limited rehearing on the RA import issues. So as 01:03:20.059 --> 01:03:23.625 a result, we need to do an order extending 01:03:23.637 --> 01:03:26.299 statutory deadline for 1709020. 01:03:26.299 --> 01:03:30.574 And I ask for your support of this extension order. 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:31.999 Ok. Thank you, 01:03:31.999 --> 01:03:37.940 Commissioner Randolph. Are there any comments on item 21? Okay seeing none, I 01:03:37.940 --> 01:03:41.187 will accept a motion. 01:03:41.212 --> 01:03:42.733 So moved. 01:03:42.758 --> 01:03:43.976 And a second. 01:03:44.933 --> 01:03:45.607 Second. 01:03:45.632 --> 01:03:47.630 Thank you. It's been moved and seconded 01:03:47.630 --> 01:03:52.834 to accept item number 21. Would the agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:03:52.859 --> 01:03:55.400 For Item 21, Commissioner Shiroma? 01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:56.351 Aye. 01:03:56.376 --> 01:03:59.204 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:03:59.228 --> 01:04:00.016 Aye. 01:04:00.041 --> 01:04:01.796 Commissioner Randolph. 01:04:01.822 --> 01:04:02.382 Aye. 01:04:02.407 --> 01:04:05.240 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:04:05.265 --> 01:04:05.779 Aye. 01:04:05.804 --> 01:04:07.322 President Batjer 01:04:07.347 --> 01:04:09.379 Aye. Thank you very 01:04:09.380 --> 01:04:13.400 much. The vote is unanimous. Now, turning to item 22, Commissioner 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.020 Shiroma. 01:04:15.045 --> 01:04:17.632 Yes, thank you, President 01:04:17.644 --> 01:04:19.880 Batjer. This is also a request to extend a 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:25.729 statutory deadline. In this case, it is for a number of California high-speed 01:04:25.729 --> 01:04:34.839 Rail Authority rail crossings in Kings County. I won't rattle off all the 01:04:34.839 --> 01:04:42.699 numbers here, but it has to do with high speed rail authority at Kansas Avenue, 01:04:42.699 --> 01:04:49.279 Kent Avenue, and again, these are located in Kings County. The statutory 01:04:49.279 --> 01:04:55.579 deadline for resolving these applications is March 31, 2020, just 01:04:55.579 --> 01:04:58.880 around the corner, and we are asking for extension to 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:05.960 July 31, 2020, in order to allow for the effectuation of a settlement agreement 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:11.630 that includes withdrawal, actually, of these applications. And thanks to the 01:05:11.630 --> 01:05:16.190 efforts of Administrative Law Judge Kim and the parties and the applicants were 01:05:16.190 --> 01:05:21.019 able to come to a settlement that does in fact resolve all of their outstanding 01:05:21.019 --> 01:05:24.893 issues. So thanks to Administrative Law 01:05:24.905 --> 01:05:29.089 Judge Kim and also our assigned judge ALJ 01:05:29.089 --> 01:05:36.079 Ayoade. We do anticipate that a proposed decision will be issuing very 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.517 shortly. In fact, it could be that star 01:05:38.529 --> 01:05:41.230 has already issued it, but this extension 01:05:41.230 --> 01:05:47.799 is requested out of the abundance of caution to assure that we do meet our 01:05:47.799 --> 01:05:53.480 deadline at Plum, a successful vote today, given that there are many contain 01:05:53.480 --> 01:06:00.019 demands of all of the various units at this time. So I'm requesting your aye 01:06:00.019 --> 01:06:03.960 vote for the extension of this order. Thank you. 01:06:03.985 --> 01:06:05.569 Thank you very much, 01:06:05.569 --> 01:06:12.230 Commissioner Shiroma. Are there any comments on item number 22? Okay, seeing 01:06:12.230 --> 01:06:17.420 none, I will accept a motion. 01:06:17.445 --> 01:06:18.736 So moved. 01:06:18.761 --> 01:06:20.113 And a second. 01:06:20.138 --> 01:06:20.890 Second. 01:06:20.915 --> 01:06:22.609 Okay, it's been 01:06:22.609 --> 01:06:25.768 moved and seconded to accept item number 01:06:25.780 --> 01:06:29.029 22. Will the agenda clerk please call the 01:06:29.029 --> 01:06:30.662 roll? 01:06:30.687 --> 01:06:32.906 For Item 22, Commissioner Shiroma? 01:06:32.931 --> 01:06:33.646 Aye. 01:06:33.671 --> 01:06:35.561 Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 01:06:35.586 --> 01:06:36.278 Aye. 01:06:36.303 --> 01:06:37.842 Commissioner Randolph? 01:06:37.868 --> 01:06:38.356 Aye. 01:06:38.381 --> 01:06:40.569 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:06:40.594 --> 01:06:41.298 Aye. 01:06:41.299 --> 01:06:43.062 President Batjer. 01:06:43.087 --> 01:06:48.350 Aye. The vote is unanimous for item number 22. Moving on 01:06:48.349 --> 01:06:51.893 to item number 23. Again, Commissioner Randolph. 01:06:51.918 --> 01:06:53.990 This proposed decision would 01:06:53.990 --> 01:06:59.119 extend the statutory deadline in the complaint case of Fred Karate versus San 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:04.960 Jose Water Company. The deadline for completing this case is April 4, 2020. 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.096 However, in order to accommodate the 01:07:08.108 --> 01:07:11.869 complainant, an extension will be needed. 01:07:11.869 --> 01:07:15.920 In addition, we will need to allow time for the ALJ to finish writing the 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.180 presiding officers decision and include time for the appeal and Commission 01:07:20.180 --> 01:07:27.079 deliberation, and so we have proposed a statutory deadline of October 4, 2020. I 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:29.984 ask for your support of this item. 01:07:30.009 --> 01:07:31.009 Thank you. 01:07:31.009 --> 01:07:39.049 Are there any comments on item number 23? Okay, seeing none. I will accept a 01:07:39.049 --> 01:07:40.029 motion. 01:07:40.054 --> 01:07:41.429 So moved. 01:07:41.454 --> 01:07:43.345 And a second. 01:07:43.370 --> 01:07:44.509 Second. 01:07:44.509 --> 01:07:47.023 It's been moved and seconded to 01:07:47.035 --> 01:07:49.609 accept item number 23. Would the agenda clerk please 01:07:49.609 --> 01:07:51.204 call the roll? 01:07:51.229 --> 01:07:53.517 Commissioner Shiroma? 01:07:53.541 --> 01:07:54.279 Aye 01:07:54.279 --> 01:07:56.557 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:07:56.582 --> 01:07:57.884 Aye. 01:07:57.909 --> 01:07:59.433 Commissioner Randolph? 01:07:59.458 --> 01:08:00.041 Aye. 01:08:00.066 --> 01:08:01.789 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:08:01.789 --> 01:08:03.492 Aye. 01:08:03.517 --> 01:08:04.788 President Batjer. 01:08:04.812 --> 01:08:06.558 Aye. Thank you very 01:08:06.570 --> 01:08:08.599 much. The vote is unanimous. Now, moving on 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.309 to item 24 which is Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:08:12.309 --> 01:08:15.484 Thank you. This is 01:08:15.496 --> 01:08:19.009 another statutory extension for a complaint case. The 01:08:19.009 --> 01:08:24.949 complaint itself has been dealt with. This is actually, this is needed to 01:08:24.949 --> 01:08:29.330 deal with the order to show cause that was issued during that process, and I 01:08:29.330 --> 01:08:35.170 would request two more months from April 13 to June 15. The decision has been 01:08:35.170 --> 01:08:41.060 prepared and is ready to go, thanks to the now-retired Judge Steve Roscoe, so I 01:08:41.060 --> 01:08:45.850 anticipate this being completed fairly soon. Thank you. 01:08:45.875 --> 01:08:47.989 Thank you. Are there any 01:08:47.989 --> 01:08:51.459 comments on item number 24? Okay seeing none, 01:08:51.471 --> 01:08:54.424 I'll move for a, I'll accept a motion. 01:08:54.449 --> 01:08:56.569 So moved. 01:08:56.569 --> 01:08:58.257 Second. 01:08:58.282 --> 01:09:00.741 It's been moved and seconded to 01:09:00.753 --> 01:09:03.320 accept item 24. Will the agenda clerk please call the 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:04.032 roll. 01:09:04.057 --> 01:09:06.171 For item, 24 Commissioner Shiroma? 01:09:06.196 --> 01:09:07.122 Aye. 01:09:07.147 --> 01:09:09.174 Commissioner Guzman Aceves? 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:09.850 Aye. 01:09:09.850 --> 01:09:12.020 Commissioner Randolph? 01:09:12.045 --> 01:09:13.666 Aye. 01:09:13.691 --> 01:09:15.798 Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:09:15.823 --> 01:09:16.500 Aye. 01:09:16.525 --> 01:09:17.742 President Batjer? 01:09:17.767 --> 01:09:18.530 Aye. Thank 01:09:18.529 --> 01:09:22.880 you. The vote is unanimous. Moving on to item 25. This is mine. This 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:29.640 is an order extending statutory deadline that is for the application 15-12-007, 01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:34.859 Southern California Edison's request for a permit to construct the 01:09:34.859 --> 01:09:41.130 Circle City substation in the Miraloma Jefferson sub transmission line. SoCal 01:09:41.130 --> 01:09:48.120 Edison was granted as a suspension of the proceeding to reanalyze some of its 01:09:48.120 --> 01:09:52.529 underlying data supporting its application and to present the updated 01:09:52.529 --> 01:09:57.060 information. SCE will complete its analysis and amend 01:09:57.060 --> 01:10:02.430 its application at the end of the month. An extension to October 23, 2020, is 01:10:02.430 --> 01:10:08.370 necessary for the Commission to evaluate SCE's amendment, take party comment, and 01:10:08.370 --> 01:10:11.159 resolve the proceeding. Which we will do 01:10:11.171 --> 01:10:14.040 in October. And with that, I request your 01:10:14.040 --> 01:10:19.816 support. Is there a motion to accept item 25? 01:10:21.022 --> 01:10:21.764 So moved. 01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:23.413 Okay. And a second? 01:10:23.438 --> 01:10:24.210 I'll 01:10:24.210 --> 01:10:25.373 second 01:10:25.398 --> 01:10:27.236 All right, it's been moved 01:10:27.248 --> 01:10:28.861 and seconded to accept item 25. Will the 01:10:28.860 --> 01:10:31.451 agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:10:31.476 --> 01:10:33.744 For item 25, Commissioner Shiroma. 01:10:33.769 --> 01:10:34.500 Aye 01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:36.731 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:10:36.756 --> 01:10:37.475 Aye. 01:10:37.499 --> 01:10:39.502 Commissioner Randolph. 01:10:39.527 --> 01:10:40.170 Aye. 01:10:40.170 --> 01:10:42.062 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:10:42.087 --> 01:10:42.693 Yes. 01:10:42.717 --> 01:10:44.190 President Batjer. 01:10:44.190 --> 01:10:48.091 Aye. The vote is unanimous. 01:10:48.103 --> 01:10:52.260 Thank you all. Moving on to item 26 which has been 01:10:52.260 --> 01:10:58.230 withdrawn because we voted on item 14 on the Consent Agenda. 01:10:58.230 --> 01:11:03.860 So therefore, this item is automatically withdrawn. 01:11:03.860 --> 01:11:09.920 So moving, therefore, to item 27 which is Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:11:09.945 --> 01:11:11.940 Thank you. 01:11:11.940 --> 01:11:16.089 This matter concerns a 01:11:16.101 --> 01:11:20.340 complaint filed by AT&T against parties alleging that 01:11:20.340 --> 01:11:26.580 they had not paid for services due under a new connection agreement in a state 01:11:26.580 --> 01:11:32.850 tariff. The current statutory deadline is April 4. A short extension of time 01:11:32.850 --> 01:11:39.030 until June 30th will allow the ALJ adequate time to draft the presiding 01:11:39.030 --> 01:11:43.170 officer decision, provide the parties with 01:11:43.170 --> 01:11:47.910 time to decide whether or not to file an appeal, and get concerned Commissioners 01:11:47.910 --> 01:11:53.040 the opportunity to request review of the pod. I ask for your support for a very 01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:56.840 brief deadline till June 30th. 01:11:56.865 --> 01:12:01.020 Good. Thank you. Are there any 01:12:01.020 --> 01:12:07.725 questions or comments? Okay, seeing none, I I will accept a motion. 01:12:07.750 --> 01:12:09.076 So moved. 01:12:09.101 --> 01:12:09.960 And a 01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:11.865 second. 01:12:11.890 --> 01:12:13.313 Second. 01:12:13.338 --> 01:12:15.569 Thank you it's been moved 01:12:15.581 --> 01:12:17.581 and seconded to adopt item 27. Would the 01:12:17.580 --> 01:12:19.901 agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:12:19.926 --> 01:12:22.006 For item 27, Commissioner Shiroma. 01:12:22.032 --> 01:12:22.700 Aye. 01:12:22.700 --> 01:12:25.239 Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:12:25.264 --> 01:12:26.381 Aye. 01:12:26.405 --> 01:12:28.195 Commissioner Randolph 01:12:28.220 --> 01:12:28.597 Aye. 01:12:28.623 --> 01:12:29.730 Commissioner 01:12:29.730 --> 01:12:31.268 Rechtschaffen. 01:12:31.293 --> 01:12:32.440 yes 01:12:32.464 --> 01:12:33.423 President Batjer 01:12:33.448 --> 01:12:35.880 Aye. Thank you. The vote is unanimous. Thank 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:41.040 you all very much. That was it a lot of items to get through I appreciate it. 01:12:41.040 --> 01:12:46.470 Moving on to the management reports on the agenda, there is no report for item 01:12:46.470 --> 01:12:51.810 28 which is the report and discussion on recent consumer protection and safety 01:12:51.810 --> 01:12:55.668 activities. For item 29, management report 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.460 on administrative activities, I will turn 01:12:59.460 --> 01:13:09.350 to Executive Director Stebbins. I think she has some comments to make. Is 01:13:09.350 --> 01:13:17.760 Executive Director Stebbins on? I think we can now hear you. 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:22.674 Beautiful. Commissioners. 01:13:22.686 --> 01:13:27.180 thank you. I am, today, presenting, electronically, 01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:30.012 Jodi Farrar, who is being recognized today 01:13:30.024 --> 01:13:32.670 for her amazing service to the state of 01:13:32.670 --> 01:13:39.420 California, but most especially, for her 37 years with PUC. Jodi began her 01:13:39.420 --> 01:13:44.120 career at the California Public Utilities Commission on November 28, 01:13:44.120 --> 01:13:50.310 1983, as an office assistant typist in the Communications Division managing and 01:13:50.310 --> 01:13:55.540 filing telecommunication tarrifs. Jodi worked her way up and was promoted 01:13:55.540 --> 01:14:01.270 to an executive secretary in 1988. It was during this period in her 01:14:01.270 --> 01:14:07.540 career that the CPUC started recognizing her reliability and loyalty to all work 01:14:07.540 --> 01:14:13.030 assigned to her. Jodi also started to dabble with IT. She 01:14:13.030 --> 01:14:18.160 worked on an office suite called Four-Phase System and was also involved 01:14:18.160 --> 01:14:25.210 with Y2K. She helped onboard CPUC staff to Windows and facilitated office suite 01:14:25.210 --> 01:14:32.050 training. That takes us back started her tenure in IT as an assistant information 01:14:32.050 --> 01:14:38.050 system analyst in 1996. She handled help desk calls and rebuilt hardware from 01:14:38.050 --> 01:14:40.958 reallocated parts. Jodi taught various 01:14:40.970 --> 01:14:44.350 office applications such as Excel, Access, 01:14:44.350 --> 01:14:50.290 and Outlook. Jodi was promoted to a senior information system analyst 01:14:50.290 --> 01:14:53.489 supervisor in 2002. She managed a section 01:14:53.501 --> 01:14:56.560 called the resource management unit and 01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:03.100 oversaw the data center operations, GIS telecommunications, audio-visual, and 01:15:03.100 --> 01:15:08.970 procurement teams. Jodi was promoted to an Information Technology Manager 1 in 01:15:08.970 --> 01:15:12.460 2019. She strategically consolidated the 01:15:12.460 --> 01:15:17.410 project management office, acquisitions and procurement, and IT contracts, and 01:15:17.410 --> 01:15:24.310 developed a new team called Procurement and Project Management Services. And we 01:15:24.310 --> 01:15:26.878 must not forget that, through all of this, 01:15:26.890 --> 01:15:29.050 Jodi is also a mom. She brought her 01:15:29.050 --> 01:15:35.400 daughter Danielle into the world in May 1993, and her son James in January 1997. 01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:41.140 Jodi, as you would suspect, is a caring and loving mom who glows whenever she 01:15:41.140 --> 01:15:45.940 shares stories about her children. Jodi's hard-working ethics 01:15:45.940 --> 01:15:51.550 reliability and dependability are what we all respect and love about her, and I 01:15:51.550 --> 01:15:58.000 will personally really miss her. Jodi, on behalf of the CPUC, and I hope 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:03.610 you're listening, we wish you health, happiness, and all the best in the next 01:16:03.610 --> 01:16:06.191 phase of your life. Thank you. 01:16:06.216 --> 01:16:09.460 Beautifully stated. Thank you so much, 01:16:09.460 --> 01:16:14.949 Alice. Thank you, Jodi. For your devotion over the years, your 01:16:14.949 --> 01:16:20.320 steadfastness as a wonderful public servant. We're all in your debt. 01:16:20.320 --> 01:16:28.420 Thank you so much. We're all cheering you on. Thank You, Director 01:16:28.420 --> 01:16:31.307 Stebbins. Appreciate that those words very 01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:34.150 much. We will now take up item 30, update 01:16:34.150 --> 01:16:38.739 from the Energy division on rates and cost tracking tool. This item was 01:16:38.739 --> 01:16:41.708 initially planned to be reported at the 01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:45.159 (muffled) Committee meeting. However, given 01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.969 the current situation we canceled the committee meeting and incorporated the 01:16:48.969 --> 01:16:51.398 emerging trends report into this meeting. 01:16:51.410 --> 01:16:53.560 So with that, I will turn it over to 01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.199 Commissioner Shiroma to introduce our presenter. Thank you. 01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.491 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:17:01.503 --> 01:17:04.870 Yes, we will hear from Paul Phillips, Energy division 01:17:04.870 --> 01:17:12.100 supervisor of the retail rates team. We got a little preview of this tool a few 01:17:12.100 --> 01:17:16.866 months back, last year, this tool provides 01:17:16.878 --> 01:17:21.100 quarterly cost rate and bill tracking 01:17:21.100 --> 01:17:27.520 and is based on comprehensive forecasted cost information from our large investor 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:34.090 owned utilities, and it will provide, for us, a greater visibility into the 01:17:34.090 --> 01:17:40.390 rates and the bill impacts of individual and cumulative pending cost recovery 01:17:40.390 --> 01:17:48.130 applications, the myriad of proceedings that we have that do affect rates and do 01:17:48.130 --> 01:17:53.170 affect the bills, and it'll be a more user-friendly tool to support the 01:17:53.170 --> 01:17:58.420 analysis. And to help us understand the impacts of the Maria's proposals and 01:17:58.420 --> 01:18:03.190 proceedings. It will provide great perspective and insight. So we will now 01:18:03.190 --> 01:18:07.164 hear from Paul Phillips. Thank you. 01:18:07.189 --> 01:18:08.489 Thank you 01:18:08.489 --> 01:18:10.411 Hello, everyone. Hopefully, you can hear 01:18:10.423 --> 01:18:12.159 me, and we're going to be starting on slide 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:19.870 26. And just to dive right in, let's talk a little bit about the 01:18:19.870 --> 01:18:22.079 overview of this project and the purpose. 01:18:22.091 --> 01:18:24.100 Building on what Commissioner Shiroma 01:18:24.100 --> 01:18:29.560 just discussed, I wanted to mention that my staff has been working closely with 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:32.391 the investor-owned utilities to develop a 01:18:32.403 --> 01:18:35.110 tool that is informed by quarterly data 01:18:35.110 --> 01:18:41.530 updates on revenue requirements. It's a fairly elaborate spreadsheet workbook 01:18:41.530 --> 01:18:44.980 tool that we are going to be leveraging in order to generate more visibility 01:18:44.980 --> 01:18:49.900 into rate and bill impacts of our incremental individual decisions here at 01:18:49.900 --> 01:18:53.192 the Commission. As well as a look at more 01:18:53.204 --> 01:18:56.350 cumulative longer term impacts over the 01:18:56.350 --> 01:19:03.490 course of a two to three year period. Clearly, the objectives here are to 01:19:03.490 --> 01:19:07.800 inform cost recovery decision-making and also to support our internal staff, 01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:15.790 Energy division, to evaluate projected rate and bill impacts on a program basis 01:19:15.790 --> 01:19:20.144 and an incremental one-off decision basis. 01:19:20.156 --> 01:19:23.710 Slide 27, please. Starting out with 01:19:23.710 --> 01:19:27.400 the basics and a review a little bit of how we get to rates, just in basic 01:19:27.400 --> 01:19:31.990 calculation. We look at the utility total revenue requirement divide that 01:19:31.990 --> 01:19:38.620 by total sales or kilowatt hour demand of the IOUs. And what this tool is going 01:19:38.620 --> 01:19:43.900 to enable us to do is to look at system average rates and residential average 01:19:43.900 --> 01:19:47.020 rates. So any class average rates but specifically we're going to be focused 01:19:47.020 --> 01:19:51.280 on residential. We want to look at bundled residential average rates 01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:55.510 because that's where we can evaluate affordability impacts most easily across 01:19:55.510 --> 01:20:02.980 various decisions. For bills, typically, what we would do in the past is simply 01:20:02.980 --> 01:20:08.620 to offer a snapshot in time of any bill impact by looking simply at estimated 01:20:08.620 --> 01:20:14.350 incremental rates by average usage, figures such as around 500 to 550 01:20:14.350 --> 01:20:18.610 kilowatt hours per month was kind of what we would go with and multiply that 01:20:18.610 --> 01:20:22.330 by the static rate that we had at any 01:20:22.342 --> 01:20:26.680 given point in time. Slide 28, please. So 01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:31.930 how we got here, at this point. Again, prior to this tracking tool development 01:20:31.930 --> 01:20:36.790 that we've been undertaking for more and more granularity, our analyses kind 01:20:36.790 --> 01:20:40.449 of had some key limitations that we should acknowledge. The timing of the 01:20:40.449 --> 01:20:46.210 cost recovery across multiple periods was limited. Cumulative impacts 01:20:46.210 --> 01:20:52.270 across multiple cost recovery items or revenue requirement increments for 01:20:52.270 --> 01:20:59.440 different programs and decisions were difficult to compile. And in 01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:01.820 addition, the rate components were not as 01:21:01.832 --> 01:21:04.110 visible. We could not track for example 01:21:04.110 --> 01:21:08.530 transmission distribution generation through a more elaborate spreadsheet 01:21:08.530 --> 01:21:13.239 tool to trace the impacts across recovery mechanisms, public purpose 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:15.866 programs, for example, in addition to new 01:21:15.878 --> 01:21:18.580 generation, that sort of stuff. We'll talk 01:21:18.580 --> 01:21:23.980 a little bit more about that as we go. How we got on this course involves some 01:21:23.980 --> 01:21:28.900 recent developments. We have to tip our hat to CalAdvocates for providing 01:21:28.900 --> 01:21:32.830 some input in our affordability rulemaking back in April 2019 in which 01:21:32.830 --> 01:21:38.310 they discovered, you know, or helped us to identify some limitations in our 01:21:38.310 --> 01:21:41.037 rate and bill impact tracking, internally, 01:21:41.049 --> 01:21:43.660 and provided some ideas, on paper, as to 01:21:43.660 --> 01:21:47.469 how we could begin to develop an intake system that might be more elaborate and 01:21:47.469 --> 01:21:52.449 more automated. And so, we have taken that up a notch. We have moved into this 01:21:52.449 --> 01:21:57.160 spreadsheet tool capacity in working closely with our three major electric 01:21:57.160 --> 01:22:01.900 utilities. And are on the course to getting those up to a level of 01:22:01.900 --> 01:22:05.650 functionality that we think will benefit the Commission internally, and perhaps, 01:22:05.650 --> 01:22:11.100 one day, be a public tool that can be used through confidential information 01:22:11.100 --> 01:22:14.013 disclosures and being careful with all of 01:22:14.025 --> 01:22:16.810 that. (audio cuts) will be available in 01:22:16.810 --> 01:22:23.290 different rate setting proceedings but that's a bit down the road. Moving on to 01:22:23.290 --> 01:22:29.890 slide 29, this cost and rate tracking tool has two very simple and 01:22:29.890 --> 01:22:33.520 straightforward components. One is the basic underlying data or the forecasted 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.719 revenue requirement for the IOUs and being 01:22:36.731 --> 01:22:39.420 traced over a fixed period of time. 01:22:39.420 --> 01:22:44.830 We'll talk about that time period in a moment, and we have the rate and bill 01:22:44.830 --> 01:22:46.586 calculator itself which is the embedded 01:22:46.598 --> 01:22:48.639 calculator functions within the spreadsheet 01:22:48.639 --> 01:22:53.020 tools that allow us to evaluate forecasted revenue requirements on a 01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:57.300 one-off or combined basis across proceedings and decisions. 01:22:57.300 --> 01:23:01.082 Next slide, 30. Some definitions here, just 01:23:01.094 --> 01:23:04.630 to be clear about how we are going about 01:23:04.630 --> 01:23:08.800 this business. We need to be clear about the time periods that we're using, 01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:13.270 but also the labels that we a place on different types of revenue requirement. 01:23:13.270 --> 01:23:16.719 The baseline that we're dealing with is the authorized revenue requirement at 01:23:16.719 --> 01:23:22.420 any given point in time. Currently, in this quarter one 20202 period, we 01:23:22.420 --> 01:23:29.620 are leveraging authorized revenue requirement from 2019 Q4 2019 01:23:29.620 --> 01:23:35.650 authorized revenue requirement data. The individual requests that we look at in a 01:23:35.650 --> 01:23:40.570 drop-down menu in each tool are reflective of ongoing proceedings 01:23:40.570 --> 01:23:46.719 currently. They reflect the pending requests by the utility so it's requests 01:23:46.719 --> 01:23:51.340 in full, although there may be a time in the near future when we can parse that 01:23:51.340 --> 01:23:56.980 by using a customized tool that is being added on to this overall workbook that 01:23:56.980 --> 01:24:02.679 would enable us to adjust the pending requests on a per application 01:24:02.679 --> 01:24:09.070 or per program basis. And then, there's a basket of not yet filed revenue 01:24:09.070 --> 01:24:13.510 requirements or perspective applications that may be coming down the pike for 01:24:13.510 --> 01:24:18.010 each utility. These are more difficult. They are not, we're not including these 01:24:18.010 --> 01:24:21.699 revenue requirements in our forecasts through this tool, but they are there 01:24:21.699 --> 01:24:25.420 just as a planning just really for informational purposes and planning 01:24:25.420 --> 01:24:29.032 ahead. I just wanted to be clear that the, 01:24:29.044 --> 01:24:32.500 you know, one example of a not yet filed 01:24:32.500 --> 01:24:34.990 revenue requirement might be, for example, 01:24:35.002 --> 01:24:37.330 a catastrophic event memorandum account 01:24:37.330 --> 01:24:43.570 balance, or it might be a wildfire expenses memorandum account entry for 01:24:43.570 --> 01:24:50.800 later in a year, say Q3 of 2020 or Q4, but that gives us some insight or window 01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:54.639 into what's coming down the road and how we can begin to assess the totality of 01:24:54.639 --> 01:24:57.730 our decision-making over the course of any given period, whether it's a quarter 01:24:57.730 --> 01:25:06.480 or a year. Moving on to slide 31. So taking a deeper dive now into what 01:25:06.480 --> 01:25:10.949 we're talking about when we get into these calculators. We're really looking 01:25:10.949 --> 01:25:15.449 at the average residential rate when we talk about the rate calculator and how 01:25:15.449 --> 01:25:18.261 that's being assessed through this model. 01:25:18.273 --> 01:25:21.030 It uses authorized revenue requirements, 01:25:21.030 --> 01:25:25.679 really the quote unquote before rate or the before picture using the rates that 01:25:25.679 --> 01:25:28.357 are in effect and presently in Q1 of 2020, 01:25:28.369 --> 01:25:30.809 we are looking back at rates that were 01:25:30.809 --> 01:25:35.960 authorizing in 2019. When we get the Q2 and we get our data 01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:42.539 refreshing this model from our utility, we will have 2020 autorized revenue 01:25:42.539 --> 01:25:47.730 requirements that were put into place as of January 1st of this year. We're also 01:25:47.730 --> 01:25:51.840 looking in this tool at the proposed rates, again, the authorized, using 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:54.929 authorized revenue requirement for a future reference year, so for running 01:25:54.929 --> 01:25:59.909 different scenarios through this model, say for 2021 or 2022, we can go all the 01:25:59.909 --> 01:26:05.070 way to 2023. We can look at the incremental ask in a particular 01:26:05.070 --> 01:26:09.510 application or proceeding or program and begin to model that across a single or 01:26:09.510 --> 01:26:12.985 multiple sets of proceedings or 01:26:12.997 --> 01:26:18.059 applications. Finally, the bill calculator, 01:26:18.059 --> 01:26:22.079 I just want to speak to this a little bit in terms of the the details that 01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:26.519 separate this from the functionality that we had used internally previously. 01:26:26.519 --> 01:26:28.740 We've always had the ability to look into 01:26:28.752 --> 01:26:30.719 climate zone rates and bill impacts, 01:26:30.719 --> 01:26:35.039 you know, as they are differentiated across utility service territory, but we 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:36.829 have this more automated now, so we have 01:26:36.841 --> 01:26:38.730 drop-down menus in this tool that allow us 01:26:38.730 --> 01:26:44.849 to choose a climate zone which will determine or dictate the kilowatt 01:26:44.849 --> 01:26:47.909 hour usage assumptions that go into that particular climate zone, which are 01:26:47.909 --> 01:26:52.739 dictated directly by weather patterns. And so we look at that across a 01:26:52.739 --> 01:26:58.139 different service territories. We also can separate between 01:26:58.139 --> 01:27:01.559 non CARE and CARE status of customers. Or we can look at both of them together 01:27:01.559 --> 01:27:06.630 obviously. So this gives us a little bit more of a window into some granular cuts 01:27:06.630 --> 01:27:11.940 at beta as revenue requirement begins to inform bill impacts across different 01:27:11.940 --> 01:27:15.150 portions of geographic, the different geographic portions of a 01:27:15.150 --> 01:27:21.390 service territory and within the non CARE and CARE buckets of customer. Okay, 01:27:21.390 --> 01:27:26.790 let's move on to slide 32. And I just very briefly want to talk about some of 01:27:26.790 --> 01:27:30.060 the parameters, assumptions that are built into this model. They're very 01:27:30.060 --> 01:27:34.440 important to keep in mind. Primarily, again, just if I didn't make this clear 01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:42.780 before, we are looking back at at Q4, quarter 4 of 2019 with regard to the 01:27:42.780 --> 01:27:45.074 authorized revenue requirement at 01:27:45.086 --> 01:27:48.090 present. That will change to Q1 2020 once 01:27:48.090 --> 01:27:51.168 we get into the second quarter. So all the 01:27:51.180 --> 01:27:53.910 data that populates this, with regard 01:27:53.910 --> 01:27:57.590 to authorized revenue requirement, is backward-looking by at least a quarter. 01:27:57.590 --> 01:28:02.520 Even as we run different scenarios that will plan ahead from 2020 to 2023, 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:07.830 depending on the proceeding that we're talking about. The scenario rate 01:28:07.830 --> 01:28:11.640 impacts are based on sales forecasts that were in the most recently filed 01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:17.040 applications. So for Edison's, Southern California Edison and PG&E were talking 01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:18.683 about the recent ERA forecast 01:28:18.695 --> 01:28:21.150 applications. These will be updated every 01:28:21.150 --> 01:28:23.936 year, obviously, late in the, year but you 01:28:23.948 --> 01:28:26.550 know, for San Diego, we should say that 01:28:26.550 --> 01:28:30.810 their GRC Phase 2 sales forecasts will be incorporated in that 01:28:30.810 --> 01:28:34.970 proceeding, and that will be utilized once we get their tool fully developed. 01:28:34.970 --> 01:28:40.650 We are hoping that all three IOUs will be on that same GRC forecast 01:28:40.650 --> 01:28:45.150 schedule as it as it pertains to updating this particular model, and that 01:28:45.150 --> 01:28:47.806 we will have more nimble ability to look in, 01:28:47.818 --> 01:28:50.190 year-over-year, at those sales forecast 01:28:50.190 --> 01:28:53.880 changes as opposed to holding sales constant over the course of multiple 01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:57.930 years as we are doing right now. So that is a bit of functionality that will 01:28:57.930 --> 01:29:03.270 change in the near future. Again, I, and then, I also want to make 01:29:03.270 --> 01:29:04.581 clear that, as we are developing San 01:29:04.593 --> 01:29:06.210 Diego's tool, San Diego Gas and Electric's 01:29:06.210 --> 01:29:10.320 tool, when functional, theirs will be designed around default TOU residential 01:29:10.320 --> 01:29:13.290 rates which are currently being rolled out, almost completely rolled out at the 01:29:13.290 --> 01:29:17.490 end of March here, and we will have PG&E and Southern California Edison doing the 01:29:17.490 --> 01:29:21.390 same as they roll out their default TOU rates. In the meantime, those two 01:29:21.390 --> 01:29:28.979 utilities are supported, their scenario results will reflect tiered rate 01:29:28.979 --> 01:29:33.659 structure. And finally, one other parameter to keep in mind is that the 01:29:33.659 --> 01:29:38.249 bill impacts are assessed using currently 2018 recorded average monthly 01:29:38.249 --> 01:29:42.150 usage data. That is what we have on, that's what we have recorded at the 01:29:42.150 --> 01:29:47.010 moment. That will change in April when we get new refresh data, again, on a 01:29:47.010 --> 01:29:49.027 quarterly basis from the utilities, we'll 01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:50.729 be able to then have 2019 recorded 01:29:50.729 --> 01:29:53.281 average monthly usage data, and obviously, 01:29:53.293 --> 01:29:55.380 as we go forward, that will change 01:29:55.380 --> 01:29:58.183 in the future as well. Move on to slide 33, 01:29:58.195 --> 01:30:00.690 please, and this is kind of one of the 01:30:00.690 --> 01:30:03.441 more important ones, I would say. This is 01:30:03.453 --> 01:30:06.150 kind of your, this is your view into one 01:30:06.150 --> 01:30:11.429 of the tabs within the model that allows you to, allows the user within the 01:30:11.429 --> 01:30:15.650 user interface to make changes to support a particular reference, a 01:30:15.650 --> 01:30:18.363 particular scenario within the reference 01:30:18.375 --> 01:30:21.300 case. So for here, we have, as you can see, 01:30:21.300 --> 01:30:25.619 in the highlighted portion, you can choose a year and you can choose a 01:30:25.619 --> 01:30:30.239 particular baseline region or climate zone. And so, each climate zone will be 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:33.360 reflected in the case of Southern California Edison's tool as we're 01:30:33.360 --> 01:30:37.096 looking at here. Climate Zone 9 is a warm 01:30:37.108 --> 01:30:40.499 climate zone. It is really reflective 01:30:40.499 --> 01:30:44.519 of, kind of, the average. The average climate zone or the average usage 01:30:44.519 --> 01:30:49.860 characteristics of Edison's service territory. It provides, you know, with 01:30:49.860 --> 01:30:53.940 regard to the actual kilowatt hours of usage on a monthly basis that we're 01:30:53.940 --> 01:30:59.550 talking about, this really would incorporate non CARE usage of around 800 01:30:59.550 --> 01:31:03.404 kilowatt hours, and for the summer, and 01:31:03.416 --> 01:31:07.679 about 511 kilowatt hours for winter. Just 01:31:07.679 --> 01:31:10.078 to give you some more exactitude around 01:31:10.090 --> 01:31:12.749 those numbers. As you can see below that, 01:31:12.749 --> 01:31:16.139 you can also select the pending proceedings. These are the incremental 01:31:16.139 --> 01:31:19.305 revenue requirements, for this year, 2020, 01:31:19.317 --> 01:31:22.199 that are in play. These are associated 01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:24.539 with different proceedings that the Commission is currently processing. 01:31:24.539 --> 01:31:29.789 You'll see to the right of those pending proceedings whether we have included, in 01:31:29.789 --> 01:31:34.019 the impact on this particular scenario analysis that we've chosen, which 01:31:34.019 --> 01:31:38.729 proceedings we're looking at. You have a Y for yes under Wheeler North Reef 01:31:38.729 --> 01:31:40.916 expansion. You have charge ready to, and 01:31:40.928 --> 01:31:43.180 you have the energy efficiency portfolio. 01:31:43.180 --> 01:31:49.690 These are policy programs that will be incorporated into rates as decisions 01:31:49.690 --> 01:31:54.640 are made between 2020 and 2023, and so you can select any bundle of these 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:58.719 proceedings as you want to look at prospective impacts and go forward. And 01:31:58.719 --> 01:32:04.770 then so, as we go on to slide 34, we can actually see what those impacts are. 01:32:06.569 --> 01:32:10.632 Okay, so on slide 34, choosing those three 01:32:10.644 --> 01:32:14.339 rate impacts, just for 2020, for those 01:32:14.339 --> 01:32:17.322 three policy programs that we just talked 01:32:17.334 --> 01:32:19.829 about, a fairly modest bill impact 01:32:19.829 --> 01:32:24.719 of about 39 cents per month. But as you can see, those are just three of a 01:32:24.719 --> 01:32:29.010 number of policy proceedings and rate setting related applications that will 01:32:29.010 --> 01:32:34.649 go into rates over the course of a given year for this particular utility. The 01:32:34.649 --> 01:32:38.519 rate impact, as you can see in the first table, is really about one-tenth of one 01:32:38.519 --> 01:32:42.510 cent, so we go from an authorized 2020 rate impact for residential of 18.7 01:32:42.510 --> 01:32:46.769 cents to an authorized, or a pending, when you add in the pending 01:32:46.769 --> 01:32:49.829 incrememntal revenue requirement of the three proceedings that we just chose, it 01:32:49.829 --> 01:32:52.999 gives you 18. 8 cents, so just a very simple example here to illustrate 01:32:52.999 --> 01:32:58.079 what we're talking about when a user implements different 01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:02.429 parameters into this modeling run. You can see the percentage changes 01:33:02.429 --> 01:33:06.079 year-over-yea. You can see the percentage changes, wanted to point out 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:10.379 the second-to-last box on the right under the bundled average rates is the 01:33:10.379 --> 01:33:14.849 percentage change over July 26 of 2019. That date is important because that 01:33:14.849 --> 01:33:17.879 was the last major rate change that we have on record from Southern California 01:33:17.879 --> 01:33:23.069 Edison. Again, that will change as we go forward through different quarters, and 01:33:23.069 --> 01:33:30.269 so when we get refresh data in in April from Edison, we will have January 1, 01:33:30.269 --> 01:33:33.172 2020 authorized rate changes already built 01:33:33.184 --> 01:33:35.760 into it, so those numbers will look a 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:39.539 little bit different. Then, looking down below that into the 01:33:39.539 --> 01:33:43.609 bundled residential monthly average bill box, these are the results that we have. 01:33:43.609 --> 01:33:47.939 Again, you can see non CARE versus CARE broken out there, and you can see the 01:33:47.939 --> 01:33:52.260 total, and for the total, we looked at 2020 authorized versus 2020 01:33:52.260 --> 01:33:57.089 with pending adjustments that we've chosen, and that impact, again, is 01:33:57.089 --> 01:34:00.119 39 cents, 1188 versus 112 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:05.339 dollars and twenty seven cents for the average bill, and again, these are 01:34:05.339 --> 01:34:12.269 are incorporating assumptions of usage on a seasonal basis. Okay, let's move on 01:34:12.269 --> 01:34:20.490 to slide 35 and talk a little bit about where we're at with regard to developing 01:34:20.490 --> 01:34:23.577 areas that we're addressing this year for 01:34:23.589 --> 01:34:26.540 these models. Just to be clear, we have 01:34:26.540 --> 01:34:31.380 nearly complete models in working together with both PG&E and Southern 01:34:31.380 --> 01:34:34.650 California Edison, even though we're only leveraging Edison's model today for 01:34:34.650 --> 01:34:38.880 illustrative purposes. San Diego Gas and Electric is working with us closely 01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:43.320 to get their model complete. Again, they'll be leveraging time of use rates 01:34:43.320 --> 01:34:51.960 as baseline for those outputs. And we want to, again, be clear that we have to 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:56.820 be able to look at sales forecasts on a more dynamic basis rather than holding 01:34:56.820 --> 01:35:00.390 them constant over the course of one particular scenario in the reference 01:35:00.390 --> 01:35:05.760 case. So we don't want to have 22-23 outputs being represented by a 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.880 single year of sales forecasts that is held constant over the course of that 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:14.460 time. We want to be able to toggle between 2020, 2021, 2022 as sales 01:35:14.460 --> 01:35:18.570 change, and we're working on that for this year, so that will take some work 01:35:18.570 --> 01:35:22.910 with our utilities to make sure that that's incorporated appropriately. 01:35:22.910 --> 01:35:26.640 Another thing to kind of point out here is that it's been really great working 01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:31.350 with utilities and I think fostering a sense of ownership over this data. It's 01:35:31.350 --> 01:35:35.130 in everyone's best interest to make sure that it's refreshed and kept updated so 01:35:35.130 --> 01:35:39.150 that we can have the most up-to-date decision-making capacity as possible as 01:35:39.150 --> 01:35:45.120 we look at different choices that we make here at the Commission. And then, I 01:35:45.120 --> 01:35:50.390 think we can now move on to slide 36. 01:35:50.630 --> 01:35:53.219 It's worth pointing out that Commissioners 01:35:53.231 --> 01:35:55.530 and advisors will have access to this 01:35:55.530 --> 01:35:59.480 tool, be able to do some dry runs together. We can walk you through this 01:35:59.480 --> 01:36:03.090 through individual consultations and make sure that the functionality is 01:36:03.090 --> 01:36:08.910 clear, and we can also run scenarios for you. We're hoping that this isn't just 01:36:08.910 --> 01:36:12.800 something that Energy division uses but maybe the concept is exported to 01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:17.490 Communications and Water and any other division that might want to use this for 01:36:17.490 --> 01:36:22.560 decision-making purposes. But I also wanted to be sure to include some kind 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.764 of a connection or a dotted line between, 01:36:24.776 --> 01:36:26.940 hopefully, much more than a dotted line, 01:36:26.940 --> 01:36:32.070 but a connection between this rate and bill impact tracking tool and what 01:36:32.070 --> 01:36:34.270 we're doing in the affordability rulemaking 01:36:34.270 --> 01:36:40.210 here at the Commission. So presently, we're in the process of developing 01:36:40.210 --> 01:36:45.160 a decision around affordability metrics, it will help us to analyze the the cost 01:36:45.160 --> 01:36:47.954 of service across, you know, more granular 01:36:47.966 --> 01:36:50.380 parts of service territories. We are 01:36:50.380 --> 01:36:54.390 hopeful that, in the course of developing 01:36:54.402 --> 01:36:57.850 more essential use studies, updated 01:36:57.850 --> 01:37:00.280 essentially use studies with the utilities through the general rate case 01:37:00.280 --> 01:37:03.850 process, that we will be able to merge these two tools, we'll be able to look 01:37:03.850 --> 01:37:09.850 more deeply at affordability by allowing this tool to be updated on a continuous 01:37:09.850 --> 01:37:14.110 basis, and then, leveraging the Tier 1 rates or baseline rates that come out of 01:37:14.110 --> 01:37:19.330 this tool for the purposes of evaluating essential usage and affordability across 01:37:19.330 --> 01:37:24.010 very granular areas of a service territory within each climate zone. So 01:37:24.010 --> 01:37:30.850 not just within the climate zone, but within the 250 plus public utility 01:37:30.850 --> 01:37:36.190 microdata areas of California that are subsumed within those climate zones. So 01:37:36.190 --> 01:37:39.580 we see how these two tools will merge together. They will not be linked 01:37:39.580 --> 01:37:41.894 seamlessly, but they will be, the outputs 01:37:41.906 --> 01:37:43.900 of this rate and bill tracking tool 01:37:43.900 --> 01:37:48.630 will be inputs to the affordability matrix that we are presently developing. 01:37:48.630 --> 01:37:52.750 And then, finally, just to end the conversation, I thought it was funny 01:37:52.750 --> 01:37:57.700 looking back on an old decision, just for a quick laugh,there's a quote here 01:37:57.700 --> 01:38:03.870 on slide 37 that goes back to a 1919 decision made by this Commission that 01:38:03.870 --> 01:38:08.320 was questioning whether it was even possible to determine what a proper rate 01:38:08.320 --> 01:38:12.520 is for electricity, and fortunately, we've come a long way since 01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:17.260 then but still many questions remain I think about how we begin to evaluate 01:38:17.260 --> 01:38:21.040 affordability across multitudes of proceedings, but hopefully, these tools 01:38:21.040 --> 01:38:23.790 that we're developing at this point in time will make things easier for 01:38:23.790 --> 01:38:27.112 decision-makers here at the Commission. 01:38:27.137 --> 01:38:29.674 And with that I am through 01:38:29.699 --> 01:38:34.229 Thank you, Paul, and any questions or comments? 01:38:34.254 --> 01:38:38.920 This is a tremendous, I mean, I shouldn't 01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:40.990 speak. Let me let my fellow Commissioners speak 01:38:40.990 --> 01:38:44.860 first because you all have been struggling and working and thinking 01:38:44.860 --> 01:38:48.356 through this for many years, and so with that 01:38:48.368 --> 01:38:52.180 I'll let you all speak first. Cliff? Commissioner 01:38:52.180 --> 01:38:54.145 Rechtschaffen? 01:38:54.170 --> 01:38:56.327 Well, the first 01:38:56.339 --> 01:38:58.413 question is who found the 1919 quote, Paul? 01:38:58.438 --> 01:39:00.040 I can tell you it 01:39:00.040 --> 01:39:02.442 wasn't me. It was ALJ Patrick Doherty, so 01:39:02.454 --> 01:39:04.810 if he's listening, shout out to him. And 01:39:04.810 --> 01:39:07.328 we got a good laugh out of it. 01:39:07.353 --> 01:39:08.480 (crosstalk) 01:39:08.505 --> 01:39:11.860 Judge Doherty is the judge in the 01:39:11.860 --> 01:39:17.050 affordability OIR. I want to thank you for this 01:39:17.050 --> 01:39:20.560 work. It's extremely timely and necessary 01:39:20.572 --> 01:39:24.010 and very sophisticated, so it's really a 01:39:24.010 --> 01:39:30.340 great advance. And you answered or you address the major points I wanted to 01:39:30.340 --> 01:39:34.720 make, and I thank you for doing that which is draw the link between 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:40.630 this and the affordability proceeding, and I especially appreciate that the 01:39:40.630 --> 01:39:50.980 data from this tool will be very granular and updated quarterly or, you 01:39:50.980 --> 01:39:52.974 know, many times during the year, 01:39:52.986 --> 01:39:55.600 potentially, and that could feed into the 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:59.320 efforts in the Affordability proceeding to get a handle on not just essential 01:39:59.320 --> 01:40:02.403 usage, which is obviously 01:40:02.415 --> 01:40:05.620 very important, but if, in that affordability proceeding, 01:40:05.620 --> 01:40:09.790 we're trying to get a handle on the affordability of utility services across 01:40:09.790 --> 01:40:15.040 all the regulated industries, and we want to do that on a dynamic basis. So 01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:18.574 having the ability, as you set forward here, 01:40:18.586 --> 01:40:21.580 to forecast what rate impacts will be 01:40:21.580 --> 01:40:28.360 and bill impacts will be on a granular basis and continuously and update 01:40:28.360 --> 01:40:30.692 that, it will be incredibly valuable, so 01:40:30.704 --> 01:40:33.220 thank you very much for all the work you've 01:40:33.220 --> 01:40:37.688 done and for having these processes coordinated. 01:40:37.713 --> 01:40:40.150 Certainly. And thank you. I wanted to 01:40:40.150 --> 01:40:43.570 just very quickly on that note mention and give a shout out to my own staff, 01:40:43.570 --> 01:40:46.480 Bridget Sierra Smith, who has been spearheading this project and doing a 01:40:46.480 --> 01:40:51.550 lot of the ground work deserves a lot of the credit here, so thank you Bridget. 01:40:51.550 --> 01:40:54.490 Thank you for that Bridget. Thank 01:40:54.502 --> 01:40:57.400 you. Other Commissioners any comments? An incredible 01:40:57.400 --> 01:41:01.830 tool. Unbelievable. Yes? Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:41:01.830 --> 01:41:04.892 Thank you. Yes, I'm really 01:41:04.904 --> 01:41:07.870 just proud of all the work that's happened here to get 01:41:07.870 --> 01:41:13.990 us to the point to be able to have some context and relativity of our decisions, 01:41:13.990 --> 01:41:17.218 and just wanted to, you know, know when we 01:41:17.230 --> 01:41:20.320 can get started here. Is it, do you need 01:41:20.320 --> 01:41:25.720 some sort of direction from us to ask the utilities, at least Edison and PG&E, 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:31.270 that beginning, let's say, as an example, beginning April 1st, all 01:41:31.270 --> 01:41:35.500 applications that are filed should include this analysis as some sort of 01:41:35.500 --> 01:41:39.190 addendum or appendix to their application so that we have that context 01:41:39.190 --> 01:41:40.758 in each decision? 01:41:42.983 --> 01:41:45.461 Yes, I think that that is another part of the intake process 01:41:45.460 --> 01:41:49.240 that we didn't, that I didn't talk about or address so directly here, but I do 01:41:49.240 --> 01:41:54.370 think that one of the elements of the CalAdvocates proposal, back in 01:41:54.370 --> 01:41:58.330 April of 2019, was to make sure that, for each new application, each new 01:41:58.330 --> 01:42:03.280 pending revenue request by the IOUs, there would be very visible transparent 01:42:03.280 --> 01:42:07.240 information about that request and how it develops over the course of a 01:42:07.240 --> 01:42:11.440 proceeding. So definitely, up front with the application, we should be requesting 01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:13.930 that from the utilities on a going-forward basis so that we can begin 01:42:13.930 --> 01:42:18.190 that evaluation. Obviously, we will get that into this calculator through these 01:42:18.190 --> 01:42:19.971 refreshed updates on a quarterly basis, 01:42:19.983 --> 01:42:21.960 but I think there's also the question of, 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:29.430 on a one-off application filing basis, how visible that is to you guys. So, 01:42:29.430 --> 01:42:31.536 definitely that's an implementation 01:42:31.548 --> 01:42:34.150 action item that we'll need to request of 01:42:34.150 --> 01:42:36.618 utilities. 01:42:36.643 --> 01:42:38.487 Thank you 01:42:38.512 --> 01:42:44.020 Following, oh yeah, I just wanted to follow up on that 01:42:44.020 --> 01:42:49.380 a bit. Is that something that would be potentially an output of the 01:42:49.380 --> 01:42:55.274 affordability proceeding? And the PD that comes out of that? 01:42:55.299 --> 01:42:57.400 I think that's a good 01:42:57.400 --> 01:42:59.680 idea. Yeah, it definitely could be, in terms of 01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:04.510 a directive that comes out of the affordability proposed decision. I would 01:43:04.510 --> 01:43:06.677 just have to consult with ALJ Doherty 01:43:06.689 --> 01:43:09.280 about, you know, supporting the record for 01:43:09.280 --> 01:43:13.090 that particular development, but it seems logical that that would be a 01:43:13.090 --> 01:43:14.530 place to put it. 01:43:14.555 --> 01:43:18.400 Okay. Thank you. I don't really have much 01:43:18.400 --> 01:43:20.193 to add beyond what my other Commissioners 01:43:20.205 --> 01:43:21.580 have said. You know, we've been 01:43:21.580 --> 01:43:27.040 looking forward to this tool for a long time and are really very impressed 01:43:27.040 --> 01:43:32.670 with the work and looking forward to the opportunity to use it. Thank you. 01:43:32.670 --> 01:43:35.140 Thank You 01:43:35.165 --> 01:43:39.032 Commissioner Shiroma. Thank you 01:43:39.044 --> 01:43:42.550 so much for bringing this presentation and all 01:43:42.550 --> 01:43:47.110 this wonderful information that Paul has imparted to us with this tool that will 01:43:47.110 --> 01:43:51.220 be so important to our true making and our thinking through before a 01:43:51.220 --> 01:43:56.080 decision is made, actually, so thank you very much for bringing a stroller as one 01:43:56.080 --> 01:43:58.445 of the Commissioner reports. 01:43:58.470 --> 01:44:02.500 Thank you. And it's part of our Emerging Trends 01:44:02.500 --> 01:44:08.140 Committee as my colleague Martha Guzman Aceves, and I'm just very excited about 01:44:08.140 --> 01:44:14.350 this. You know, there's something about spreadsheets and models, and so 01:44:14.350 --> 01:44:22.080 forth. It's exciting stuff. Thank you. Thank you everyone, and thank you Paul. 01:44:22.080 --> 01:44:27.003 Engineers and the like. Oh! And 01:44:27.015 --> 01:44:32.140 economists, of course, as well. Ok. Thank you. That's 01:44:32.140 --> 01:44:34.737 terrific. And again, Paul, much thanks to 01:44:34.749 --> 01:44:37.420 you and your staff very. Boy, great, oh, I 01:44:37.420 --> 01:44:40.938 will say a work in art. Thank you. 01:44:40.963 --> 01:44:44.126 Thank you, guys, appreciate it. 01:44:44.151 --> 01:44:45.180 You bet. 01:44:45.180 --> 01:44:48.188 So that finishes the Commissioners' 01:44:48.200 --> 01:44:51.910 report. Before I bring the public meeting 01:44:51.910 --> 01:44:58.570 to adjournment, I would like to turn to Commissioner Guzman Aceves for a 01:44:58.570 --> 01:45:03.532 remembrance of one of our colleagues who 01:45:03.544 --> 01:45:08.760 sadly passed this past week. Commissioner? 01:45:08.760 --> 01:45:11.597 Thank you, President 01:45:11.609 --> 01:45:14.290 Batjer. Many of you have received a notice that 01:45:14.290 --> 01:45:18.656 one of our most active public interfaces, 01:45:18.668 --> 01:45:22.420 Emilio Vito dio Sanchez, has passed 01:45:22.420 --> 01:45:28.180 away last week, unfortunately. He had been with the Commission for over twenty 01:45:28.180 --> 01:45:31.855 years, and I know he's played many roles. 01:45:31.867 --> 01:45:35.730 He was in CAB, our Consumer Affairs branch, 01:45:35.730 --> 01:45:37.964 and then, now, more recently, in our 01:45:37.976 --> 01:45:40.720 interaction, I personally interacted with 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.730 him a lot in some of my proceedings. He was with the Public Advisors Office and 01:45:45.730 --> 01:45:51.340 really was the go-to on translation services. He's very active in the San 01:45:51.340 --> 01:45:57.730 Joaquin Valley proceeding and helped in many other instances on random public 01:45:57.730 --> 01:46:02.230 participation hearings for many of our utilities. A couple of things that I 01:46:02.230 --> 01:46:06.610 learned in his passing and some of the notes that were shared about his 01:46:06.610 --> 01:46:11.580 dedication to community. He would often volunteer during his lunch break, 01:46:11.580 --> 01:46:16.720 downstairs in the San Francisco office, at Cafe Mocha when he realized that the 01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:25.030 staff there were short-staffed, and it's an extraordinary gesture for colleagues 01:46:25.030 --> 01:46:30.330 at every level of our institution to help out in the kitchen. He also 01:46:30.330 --> 01:46:33.779 volunteered at a local elementary school 01:46:33.791 --> 01:46:37.420 to read to children, so it was witha heavy 01:46:37.420 --> 01:46:43.600 heart that we recognize this big loss to the Commission and wish the best to his 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:45.250 family. Thank you. 01:46:45.275 --> 01:46:47.639 Martha, thank you so 01:46:47.651 --> 01:46:50.200 much, his family resides, we understand, in 01:46:50.200 --> 01:46:56.950 Mexico, and for those who would like to send their condolences, we do 01:46:56.950 --> 01:47:02.290 have an address, so I appreciate that very very much. Were there any other 01:47:02.290 --> 01:47:08.460 comments or Commissioner reports? Commissioner Rechtschaffen? 01:47:08.460 --> 01:47:11.524 President Batjer. I also 01:47:11.536 --> 01:47:14.500 wanted to say how saddened I was by Emilio's passing 01:47:14.500 --> 01:47:22.930 and remember how he was so positive and upbeat and the fact that he 01:47:22.930 --> 01:47:26.440 volunteered at the cafeteria. He seemed to work at multiple jobs. He was 01:47:26.440 --> 01:47:31.330 everywhere and he just volunteered because he wanted to. He just wanted 01:47:31.330 --> 01:47:38.920 to be with the public and help out, so he will be extremely missed. And I also, 01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:43.930 you set the tone beautifully at the start of this meeting, President 01:47:43.930 --> 01:47:50.440 Batjer, I do want to just thank everybody at the Commission and 01:47:50.440 --> 01:47:53.064 elsewhere for all the efforts that we've 01:47:53.076 --> 01:47:55.840 seeing over the past couple of weeks. This 01:47:55.840 --> 01:48:02.500 is an extraordinary time testing us all, requiring extraordinary responses, and I 01:48:02.500 --> 01:48:08.950 am very grateful and very proud of the work that all, of all the PUC staff, the 01:48:08.950 --> 01:48:14.140 ALJ divisio, Legal, CAB, Industry division, the Executive division, the 01:48:14.140 --> 01:48:18.430 media, they have just rolled up their sleeves, put in long hours, developed 01:48:18.430 --> 01:48:20.966 solutions. Problems that seemed insoluble 01:48:20.978 --> 01:48:23.040 three weeks ago, they figured out 01:48:23.040 --> 01:48:29.620 workarounds and ways to advance the goals we have. And times like this 01:48:29.620 --> 01:48:34.300 remind us how important it is to be in public service and what a privilege it 01:48:34.300 --> 01:48:39.580 is to work at a place like the PUC where we serve the public in a profound way, 01:48:39.580 --> 01:48:44.080 the public depends on us, our mission's critically important, and we are really 01:48:44.080 --> 01:48:49.870 stepping up to the plate, so I'm very very grateful for everything that we and 01:48:49.870 --> 01:48:54.580 our staff are doing, and I, you know, as you said, I do appreciate the many 01:48:54.580 --> 01:48:59.700 efforts of regulated entities to respond to this crisis. Many volunteering, some 01:48:59.700 --> 01:49:04.210 ordered by us, but I think people have really stepped up and realized this is a 01:49:04.210 --> 01:49:06.566 time to be creative and compassionate, so 01:49:06.578 --> 01:49:08.890 I thank everybody. I just wanted to echo 01:49:08.890 --> 01:49:13.570 my thoughts and my gratitude to my colleagues and everyone else for their 01:49:13.570 --> 01:49:15.565 efforts and dedication to the public. 01:49:15.590 --> 01:49:18.100 Thank you so much, Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:49:18.100 --> 01:49:22.080 Are there other Commissioner reports or comments? 01:49:22.080 --> 01:49:24.432 Yes, Commissioner Shiroma? 01:49:24.457 --> 01:49:26.919 Yes. Thank You, 01:49:26.931 --> 01:49:30.040 President Batjer. My deepest sympathies also at 01:49:30.040 --> 01:49:37.870 losing Emilio. And the work on providing for bilingual support is so 01:49:37.870 --> 01:49:47.020 essential. And I'm sorry to his family and to his co-workers. Also, thank you, 01:49:47.020 --> 01:49:49.998 President Batjer for your opening remarks. 01:49:50.010 --> 01:49:53.140 As Commissioner Rechtschaffen outlined, it's 01:49:53.140 --> 01:49:57.498 been so remarkable to 01:49:57.510 --> 01:50:01.880 see the CPUC teams, far and wide, really step 01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:09.409 forward and problem-solve and looking to help folks who need help, whether 01:50:09.409 --> 01:50:15.500 working with the utilities on preventing disconnections, late fees, providing 01:50:15.500 --> 01:50:21.020 additional assistance to the weatherization workers and so forth, and 01:50:21.020 --> 01:50:24.661 it has really been just heart busting to see 01:50:24.673 --> 01:50:27.920 all of the folks coming forward to look 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:30.243 at problem solving, even as everyone is 01:50:30.255 --> 01:50:32.889 coping, no doubt, in their personal lives, 01:50:32.889 --> 01:50:39.429 with some stay at home procedures and children being at home and our elderly 01:50:39.429 --> 01:50:43.923 parents needing extra care and so forth. You 01:50:43.935 --> 01:50:48.040 know, my own dad, at 94, continues to be 01:50:48.040 --> 01:50:50.718 fiercely independent almost to the point of, 01:50:50.730 --> 01:50:53.360 you know, I'm arguing with him about it and 01:50:53.360 --> 01:50:56.468 telling him 6-feet and wash your hands, and 01:50:56.480 --> 01:50:59.599 so forth and so on. Which he has taken very 01:50:59.599 --> 01:51:04.730 well, so I do want to add my thanks to the Commission team for 01:51:04.730 --> 01:51:08.960 all the efforts, and a particular shout out to the star team and information 01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:11.802 technology team who are coming into the 01:51:11.814 --> 01:51:14.960 office, doing the essential services that 01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:17.673 we need to continue to do our work. Thank you. 01:51:17.698 --> 01:51:19.520 Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma. 01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:21.639 Commissioner Randolph? 01:51:21.664 --> 01:51:27.130 I'll just add my condolences to Emilio's family 01:51:27.130 --> 01:51:31.395 and express my sadness as well. And then, 01:51:31.407 --> 01:51:35.480 I'll just echo my fellow Commissioners' 01:51:35.480 --> 01:51:42.110 thoughts about how great our staff has been stepping up and dealing with these 01:51:42.110 --> 01:51:48.409 difficult times, and as Commissioner Shiroma said, we do have staff who are 01:51:48.409 --> 01:51:54.580 coming into the office and who still need to be be there in person, and I 01:51:54.580 --> 01:52:01.429 appreciate their work. In particular, a shout out to Robert Stanford and all of 01:52:01.429 --> 01:52:07.610 the hard work he does, and everyone else in IT sort of keeping us connected and 01:52:07.610 --> 01:52:10.550 dealing with our panic "oh my goodness, something isn't 01:52:10.550 --> 01:52:17.390 "working perfectly" responses. So thank you all for your incredibly important 01:52:17.390 --> 01:52:22.070 work, and and I look forward to, some time soon, 01:52:22.082 --> 01:52:26.200 being together in person. Thank you again. 01:52:26.200 --> 01:52:28.156 Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 01:52:28.168 --> 01:52:30.260 would you like to say anything in addition to your 01:52:30.260 --> 01:52:31.730 remembrances? 01:52:31.755 --> 01:52:33.891 Yes. Thank you. I 01:52:33.903 --> 01:52:36.140 also wanted to thank you for your comments at the 01:52:36.140 --> 01:52:41.660 beginning of the Commission meeting here to recognize the dual impacts to our 01:52:41.660 --> 01:52:47.480 customers and the need to continue to troubleshoot that and find pathways for 01:52:47.480 --> 01:52:50.817 stabilization, post this COVID-crisis. I 01:52:50.829 --> 01:52:54.260 think it's been a real reminder to us, in 01:52:54.260 --> 01:53:00.410 a lot of ways, that what a utility and what a basic service is and what a human 01:53:00.410 --> 01:53:06.140 right it is to have our gas or electric or water and our internet working. 01:53:06.140 --> 01:53:11.930 And I do want to also recognize some of the companies that I know I 01:53:11.930 --> 01:53:14.253 shared with you and we've been able to 01:53:14.265 --> 01:53:17.030 resolve, at least, a couple of incidents. I 01:53:17.030 --> 01:53:22.190 did want to recognize, you know, I just happened to call AT&T on a personal bill 01:53:22.190 --> 01:53:27.650 matter, and when I was on hold, the message AT&T had was very clear: 01:53:27.650 --> 01:53:30.595 no disconnections, no late fees. 01:53:30.607 --> 01:53:34.580 Alleviating all customers of any of that. 01:53:34.580 --> 01:53:41.570 And unfortunately, we did get a call from Salinas, from a gentleman that is a 01:53:41.570 --> 01:53:46.930 Metro PCS customer that had been trying to avoid being disconnected, and 01:53:46.930 --> 01:53:51.520 fortunately, that was resolved this morning, but unfortunately, in his 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:56.810 relaying the message of the conversation with Metro, they still said it was going 01:53:56.810 --> 01:54:04.160 to be a case-by-case basis and also told him that because he was a longtime 01:54:04.160 --> 01:54:09.830 customer he was being given this kind of special treatment, if you will, so I 01:54:09.830 --> 01:54:14.090 really call on all the telecommunication providers, obviously, particularly Metro 01:54:14.090 --> 01:54:19.700 PCS, given this particular situation, that it be a very clear 01:54:19.700 --> 01:54:24.829 message that no one be disconnected, that no one be subject to late fees, and 01:54:24.829 --> 01:54:32.179 take the approach of some of their sister organizations. Also, just 01:54:32.179 --> 01:54:36.289 sharing a lot of very positive stories, maybe you know that Verizon has 01:54:36.289 --> 01:54:41.570 reached an agreement with Los Angeles Unified School District for all the 01:54:41.570 --> 01:54:46.010 children and families to have access, extreme leadership by LAUSD 01:54:46.010 --> 01:54:52.400 and Verizon and want to really help and continue to collaborate with many of 01:54:52.400 --> 01:54:56.420 those school districts and others in just really working with our 01:54:56.420 --> 01:55:00.979 carriers as partners during this crisis and calling on them to be clear in their 01:55:00.979 --> 01:55:04.700 commitments that they've made, both to us 01:55:04.712 --> 01:55:08.179 and to the FCC. Also, I wanted to just 01:55:08.179 --> 01:55:13.550 reflect on some of the other crises that we have and the leadership that you all 01:55:13.550 --> 01:55:18.170 mentioned that all of our utility workers across the state, essential 01:55:18.170 --> 01:55:21.146 employees are providing during this time, 01:55:21.158 --> 01:55:23.719 to facilitate social distancing and 01:55:23.719 --> 01:55:28.039 thank them for putting themselves at risk as they continue to provide us all 01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:35.119 this basic service. And we regulate all these different utilities, 01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:39.769 one of the most troubling ones that I just wanted to reflect with you on, are 01:55:39.769 --> 01:55:45.710 the transportation network companies and just recognizing that there is a real 01:55:45.710 --> 01:55:51.170 crisis here with the drivers who have been left unemployed, and in some cases, 01:55:51.170 --> 01:55:57.499 sick without any benefit, and I know that Congress is looking to resolve some 01:55:57.499 --> 01:56:00.069 of this, but it is something I would like 01:56:00.081 --> 01:56:02.479 to continue a dialogue with all of you 01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:07.070 fellow Commissioners and particularly Commissioner Shiroma and Randolph and 01:56:07.070 --> 01:56:12.229 their leadership in regulating the TNCs in the recognition that their social 01:56:12.229 --> 01:56:18.070 contract and the structure they have with us is failing. And certainly, the 01:56:18.070 --> 01:56:25.280 passage of 85 and some of these new legislations calling on the TNCs and 01:56:25.280 --> 01:56:30.679 their corporations to provide this safety net is something will have to 01:56:30.679 --> 01:56:35.369 face. I certainly didn't anticipate facing it this closely, 01:56:35.369 --> 01:56:39.659 but it is a recognition that troubles, me and I'm sure troubles you, in 01:56:39.659 --> 01:56:43.710 recognizing that all of these drivers have been left with little recourse 01:56:43.710 --> 01:56:50.070 other than congressional action. Okay, so I look forward to us playing 01:56:50.070 --> 01:56:55.110 a role and obviously helping with all of these utilities, and I thank you all 01:56:55.110 --> 01:57:00.330 for your leadership and I want to echo the great role that our staff has 01:57:00.330 --> 01:57:04.337 played in coming to action so quickly. Thank you. 01:57:04.362 --> 01:57:05.940 Thank you very much 01:57:05.940 --> 01:57:08.203 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:57:08.228 --> 01:57:11.264 President Batjer? 01:57:11.276 --> 01:57:14.070 I apologize if you could excuse me for one, 01:57:14.070 --> 01:57:18.960 I wanted to add one thing because there was quite a bit of interest in the 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:21.294 public comment earlier on-- 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:24.864 It's a little hard to hear you, 01:57:24.876 --> 01:57:28.297 you're a little muffled, can you just bring your? 01:57:28.323 --> 01:57:31.186 I just, I wanted to 01:57:31.198 --> 01:57:33.901 remind folks that the Sprint T-mobile proposed 01:57:33.900 --> 01:57:40.590 decision will be on our voting meeting agenda on April 16th. I know there was a 01:57:40.590 --> 01:57:44.550 lot of public comment at the start of the media, including from some public 01:57:44.550 --> 01:57:48.480 officials who are interested in the resolution of that matter. It will be 01:57:48.480 --> 01:57:50.970 voted on on April 16th. 01:57:50.995 --> 01:57:55.409 Thank you. I wanted to say something 01:57:55.409 --> 01:57:58.080 about it when the public comment was coming up, but we were having some 01:57:58.080 --> 01:58:03.929 technical difficulties at the time, so I thank you for remembering that. In 01:58:03.929 --> 01:58:06.721 closing, I just want to, again, thank the 01:58:06.733 --> 01:58:09.270 CPUC staff as my fellow Commissioners 01:58:09.270 --> 01:58:15.360 have so eloquently done today, noting as they have noted, we have many staff 01:58:15.360 --> 01:58:22.080 members that are still having to come in because of their essential duties, into 01:58:22.080 --> 01:58:26.760 the offices. We're trying to limit them and keep them very safe by social 01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:34.710 distancing and the like. However, I do thank them very much and 01:58:34.710 --> 01:58:41.130 mention the IT staff, that Star staff, these are true public servants 01:58:41.130 --> 01:58:47.159 and really reaching out and answering the call of public service in this 01:58:47.159 --> 01:58:51.690 really time of such uncertainty, and I dare say, even 01:58:51.690 --> 01:58:56.940 for some of us, fear at times. And I do want to thank all the staff for what 01:58:56.940 --> 01:58:59.769 they've done. The stretching, the 01:58:59.781 --> 01:59:03.570 reworking, helping all of us, helping each 01:59:03.570 --> 01:59:06.083 other. And all the while, that we all 01:59:06.095 --> 01:59:09.030 know each one of us is carrying some real 01:59:09.030 --> 01:59:13.469 burdens and concerns on our shoulders in our personal lives and in our community 01:59:13.469 --> 01:59:20.280 lives, so I just want to say to everyone please be safe, please heed the word of 01:59:20.280 --> 01:59:27.270 our health officials and those who are leading us through and our governor, 01:59:27.270 --> 01:59:32.849 that we have to be mindful, the only way that steep curve of this pandemic is 01:59:32.849 --> 01:59:38.940 going to be flattened is each one of us doing our part in keeping a social 01:59:38.940 --> 01:59:43.409 distance, really being smart and staying home, only doing those things that are 01:59:43.409 --> 01:59:46.747 absolutely essential, and truly, by so 01:59:46.759 --> 01:59:50.550 doing, we will be saving lives, so please 01:59:50.550 --> 01:59:55.949 be safe, take care of yourself both physically and mentally, and I thank you 01:59:55.949 --> 02:00:00.230 all very much. The public meeting is now adjourned.