WEBVTT 00:00:06.069 --> 00:00:16.450 Go ahead and get started. We've got a full morning, this morning. 00:00:16.450 --> 00:00:27.050 And we're so excited to have our National Blue Ribbon schools here. We wanted to wish 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:33.390 a hearty congratulations to everyone. We really appreciate you coming. This is always 00:00:33.390 --> 00:00:36.825 a very exciting award for us. And we're so 00:00:36.850 --> 00:00:40.579 proud of all of our schools in Texas but these 00:00:40.579 --> 00:00:43.711 schools, just it's wonderful to recognize them 00:00:43.736 --> 00:00:46.710 at this time each year. I'd like to go ahead 00:00:46.710 --> 00:00:55.108 and call on Barbara Cargill to introduce the choir 00:00:55.133 --> 00:01:02.649 from Bryan High School. 00:01:02.649 --> 00:01:31.000 So good morning. While they're 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.470 setting up and getting situated, I'll go ahead 00:01:33.495 --> 00:01:35.939 and tell you a little bit of information about 00:01:35.939 --> 00:01:42.560 this amazing choir. So Local Legacy is the contemporary acapella group from Travis B 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.884 Bryan High School and Bryan ISD. The group 00:01:45.909 --> 00:01:49.439 began singing in the acappella genre in 2014, 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.820 I've been told they kind of sound like Pentatonix, which is like I've been to 00:01:53.820 --> 00:01:57.192 their concert. I love all that kind of music. 00:01:57.217 --> 00:02:00.270 So this is awesome. They have won numerous 00:02:00.270 --> 00:02:03.792 awards, including first place at the ICHSA 00:02:03.817 --> 00:02:07.560 Southwest quarterfinal, including outstanding 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.850 soloist and best choreography. The group is made up of sophomores, juniors and seniors. 00:02:13.850 --> 00:02:16.647 Members participate in AP courses, dual credit, 00:02:16.672 --> 00:02:19.269 cheerleading, football, basketball, theater, 00:02:19.269 --> 00:02:22.777 drill team, equestrian, gymnastics and golf. 00:02:22.802 --> 00:02:26.440 Good heavens, do you sleep? That's a question. 00:02:26.440 --> 00:02:29.283 Oor study? More importantly, do you study? We're 00:02:29.308 --> 00:02:32.010 so glad to have them here under choir director 00:02:32.010 --> 00:02:35.271 Alex Medlock. Do you want to come talk now or 00:02:35.296 --> 00:02:38.320 after? You got come up here. Come up here. 00:02:38.320 --> 00:02:44.609 He has been at Bryan High School for nineteen years. He's been in education for 00:02:44.609 --> 00:02:47.148 twenty, so that's pretty impressive. And we're 00:02:47.173 --> 00:02:49.470 so grateful for for teachers like like him 00:02:49.470 --> 00:02:54.230 And Britney Gibson, the assistant director of choirs, is also here. Patrick Corbett, 00:02:54.230 --> 00:02:56.641 Fine arts director. Where you Mr Corbett? Back 00:02:56.666 --> 00:02:59.000 in the back. Good. Nice to see you. And then, 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.608 of course, Dr Christine Whitbeck, my friend, the 00:03:01.633 --> 00:03:03.950 superintendent of Bryan ISD is right there. 00:03:03.950 --> 00:03:06.098 We're so grateful when people like that come 00:03:06.123 --> 00:03:08.199 to support their students. Thank you. Thank 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.118 you. And with that, do you want to give them a 00:03:11.143 --> 00:03:13.850 little bit more detail? - Just real briefly. 00:03:13.850 --> 00:03:18.530 As Mrs Cargill stated, this is not your traditional 00:03:18.555 --> 00:03:22.670 choir robes, stand and put on the pearls, this 00:03:22.670 --> 00:03:25.546 is this is more of an experience on. So if 00:03:25.571 --> 00:03:28.690 you've seen Pitch Perfect, thes acapella groups 00:03:28.690 --> 00:03:32.685 were kind of formed after the Pitch Perfect 00:03:32.710 --> 00:03:36.109 model. And Kayla Callen, one of our seniors 00:03:36.109 --> 00:03:45.970 is going to share real briefly about these songs before we sing. 00:03:45.970 --> 00:03:48.416 You can speak into the mic right here. Pam do you mind turning your mic on? 00:03:48.441 --> 00:03:49.877 I think that would work. You want to stay in the circle. 00:03:49.902 --> 00:03:51.281 - So our set is essentially 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.267 about finding peace through the pain. As trials 00:03:54.292 --> 00:03:56.880 come our way, we can always lean into the 00:03:56.880 --> 00:03:59.830 things that remain constant. Such as family, goals, 00:03:59.900 --> 00:04:03.748 passions, etcetera. So that's what we're trying to convey. 00:04:19.000 --> 00:10:30.310 (music plays) 00:10:30.334 --> 00:10:32.334 (applause) 00:10:40.000 --> 00:15:43.000 (music plays) 00:15:43.024 --> 00:15:58.724 (applause) 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.900 - Okay, wait a minute. We gotta do photos, don't we? Where are we gonna do them? 00:16:06.924 --> 00:16:14.424 It's up to you. I just have to, okay, who was doing the bird noises? Where are you? 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:21.973 As a science teacher, thank you, that was awesome. And then where's the 00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:27.206 young man that was doing all the other noises? Where you born doing that? 00:16:27.230 --> 00:16:32.430 - I started when I was nine, and I'm nineteen now, so a good chunk of my life. 00:16:32.454 --> 00:16:35.854 We want to talk to your mother. One of the other 00:16:35.930 --> 00:16:41.180 board members and I were wondering. You guys, y'all are so gifted, we really are, as 00:16:41.180 --> 00:16:43.688 another board member just said, we're so amazed 00:16:43.713 --> 00:16:46.040 at what our high school students can do, you 00:16:46.040 --> 00:16:50.899 know. I mean, we just have so much talent in Bryan, Texas, and we're so proud of you 00:16:50.899 --> 00:16:56.420 and wish you the very best in your future. But just a second, if the superintendent, 00:16:56.420 --> 00:16:59.274 Dr. Whitbeck and the fine arts administrators 00:16:59.299 --> 00:17:02.190 and choir directors come on up. So we're going 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:06.067 to present you with this special recognition. 00:17:06.092 --> 00:17:09.860 I don't smell. Come closer. All right. Well, 00:17:09.860 --> 00:17:12.526 maybe maybe. State Board of Education special 00:17:12.551 --> 00:17:15.249 recognition presented to Vocal Legacy at Bryan 00:17:15.249 --> 00:17:18.039 High School, under the direction of Alex Medlock, 00:17:18.064 --> 00:17:20.829 director of choirs, and Britney Gibson, assistant 00:17:20.829 --> 00:17:25.650 director of choirs in appreciation for the outstanding performance at the State Board 00:17:25.650 --> 00:17:29.950 of Education General Meeting. So thank you guys so much. Thank you for getting up early 00:17:29.950 --> 00:17:35.076 and driving over and keep up the good work. So let's hear it for them. 00:18:06.600 --> 00:18:14.260 Right now, I'd like to call on Member Davis to give our invocation and pledge. 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:43.250 Let us bow our heads. 00:18:45.350 --> 00:18:49.138 Lord, On this day, I approach your throne of grace 00:18:49.163 --> 00:18:52.504 and mercy with a gentle and humble spirit 00:18:52.980 --> 00:18:55.288 thanking you for the opportunity to be an 00:18:55.313 --> 00:18:58.090 influential part of your desire for our children's 00:18:58.090 --> 00:19:04.559 needs. The future of our world lies in the hands of over five million Texas children 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:10.919 who are looking to us for guidance. As your chosen leaders, we want to emulate David, 00:19:10.919 --> 00:19:13.899 someone of your heart who was strong in confidence 00:19:13.924 --> 00:19:16.470 and character, someone who knew the need of 00:19:16.470 --> 00:19:19.835 God for protection, strength, training and 00:19:19.860 --> 00:19:23.669 guidance. May our actions always show integrity, 00:19:23.669 --> 00:19:26.696 authenticity, compassion and humility as we 00:19:26.721 --> 00:19:29.860 strive to make decisions that not only impact 00:19:29.860 --> 00:19:33.447 the state but ultimately the world. Continue to 00:19:33.472 --> 00:19:37.110 bless us as we bless others, releasing ourselves 00:19:37.110 --> 00:19:45.166 to follow thee. In your name we pray. Amen. 00:19:45.191 --> 00:19:53.039 Our US Pledge. I pledge allegiance 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:56.361 to the flag of the United States of America 00:19:56.386 --> 00:19:59.759 and to the Republic for which it stands, One 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.877 nation under God, indivisible with liberty 00:20:03.902 --> 00:20:08.090 and justice for all. Our Texas pledge. Honor 00:20:08.090 --> 00:20:12.533 the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee 00:20:12.558 --> 00:20:17.389 Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. 00:20:17.389 --> 00:20:23.997 All right, now we'll go ahead and do our roll call. Miss Ratcliffe? 00:20:24.022 --> 00:20:31.310 - Mr. Allen? Miss Cargill? 00:20:31.710 --> 00:20:46.919 Mr. Cortez? Miss Davis? Dr. Ellis? Miss Hardy? Mrs. Little? - She's here. Oh, taking a picture. 00:20:46.919 --> 00:20:53.506 - Mr. Maynard? Mrs Melton Malone? Mr Mercer? Mis. 00:20:53.531 --> 00:20:59.830 Perez? Ms. Perez Diaz? Dr Robinson? Mr. Rowley? 00:20:59.830 --> 00:21:03.316 And Chair Boharich. 00:21:05.141 --> 00:21:10.809 I wanted, the first item on the agenda is to approve the minutes. 00:21:10.809 --> 00:21:15.720 Were there any corrections to the January 28 and February 1 minutes from 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:20.453 last meeting? Hearing none, the minutes are approved. 00:21:20.478 --> 00:21:25.809 And now Miss Perez is going to give our resolutions and presentations. 00:21:30.709 --> 00:21:33.683 This morning we're recognizing our National Blue Ribbon Schools 00:21:33.749 --> 00:21:37.071 in two groups because there are so many. 00:22:10.020 --> 00:22:13.194 Board members, if you would please join your blue ribbon schools. 00:22:13.219 --> 00:22:17.811 - And which group? - This is Group One. 00:22:20.611 --> 00:22:23.407 If you'll look at your yellow papers on your desk, 00:22:23.432 --> 00:22:25.929 you have them divided on one group is on top. 00:22:25.929 --> 00:22:30.669 That would be Group One. The group below the line would be Group Two. 00:22:30.693 --> 00:22:32.693 (microphone turns off) 00:22:47.969 --> 00:22:51.263 But I'll be there for the photos. 00:22:54.487 --> 00:23:03.787 It is my mission, early college, high school, our principal, and yeah. 00:23:35.350 --> 00:23:36.683 You ready? 00:23:38.807 --> 00:23:41.007 We'll get it together. 00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:12.475 Whereas, the National Blue Ribbon Schools Program recognizes 00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:15.243 elementary, middle and high schools where educational excellence 00:24:16.419 --> 00:24:19.240 is achieved. Whereas a National Blue Ribbon 00:24:19.265 --> 00:24:22.190 School's flag overhead is a mark of exemplary 00:24:22.190 --> 00:24:25.162 teaching and learning. Whereas in 2018, Texas 00:24:25.187 --> 00:24:28.070 nominated twenty six schools to be recognized 00:24:28.070 --> 00:24:30.264 for their students' achievement. And whereas 00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:32.510 twenty three of these schools were named 00:24:32.510 --> 00:24:37.799 2018 National Blue Ribbon Schools by the United States Department of Education. 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:44.019 Now, therefore be it resolved that the State Board of Education does hereby extend its 00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:50.426 congratulations to Northwest Early College 00:24:50.451 --> 00:24:57.279 High School in Canutillo ISD. Challenge Early 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.754 College High School, DeBakey High School for 00:25:01.779 --> 00:25:05.930 Health Professions, and East Early College 00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:13.326 High School in Houston ISD. Jimmy Carter Early 00:25:13.351 --> 00:25:20.250 College High School in La Hoya ISD. 00:25:20.250 --> 00:25:26.158 Mercedes Early College Academy in Mercedes ISD. 00:25:26.183 --> 00:25:32.559 Mumford Elementary School in Mumford ISD. 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.733 Mission Early College High School in Socorro ISD. 00:25:35.758 --> 00:25:38.970 Valley View Elementary School and Valley View South 00:25:38.970 --> 00:25:46.399 Elementary School in Valley View ISD. And Wallcott Elementary School and Walcott ISD 00:25:46.399 --> 00:25:49.007 as exemplary high performing schools. And be it 00:25:49.032 --> 00:25:51.779 further resolved that this resolution be presented 00:25:51.779 --> 00:25:54.148 to the principals of the aforementioned schools 00:25:54.173 --> 00:25:56.320 being recognized for excellence through the 00:25:56.320 --> 00:25:58.926 National Blue Ribbon Schools program and that 00:25:58.951 --> 00:26:01.419 a copy be included in the permanent records 00:26:01.419 --> 00:26:03.746 of the State Board of Education. Witness our 00:26:03.771 --> 00:26:06.279 signatures this fifth day of April, 2019, 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:12.509 in Austin, Texas. Donna Boharich, Chair. Georgina Perez, Secretary. 00:26:48.409 --> 00:26:59.030 (inaduble speech off-microphone) (audience chatter) 00:26:59.054 --> 00:28:38.054 (audience chatter) 00:28:38.078 --> 00:28:59.378 (microphone cuts off) 00:28:59.402 --> 00:29:05.602 (audience chatter) 00:29:05.626 --> 00:29:10.526 Okay, so schools who should be in the circle for photographs: Arrow Academy 00:29:13.399 --> 00:29:16.948 Ann Maggie Elementary School, Hargill Elementary 00:29:16.973 --> 00:29:20.279 School, Golden Rule School, Dishman Elementary, 00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:27.550 JC Kelly. Idea. Jackson. Kawas in my Laredo. 00:29:27.575 --> 00:29:34.659 Nettie Marshall. Carmen Anaya.. Cesar Chavez 00:29:34.659 --> 00:29:44.959 Okay. Are all of those schools in the circle? Okay. You ready? Not yet. Okay. 00:29:44.983 --> 00:29:54.383 (audience chatter) 00:29:54.407 --> 00:30:32.307 (microphone cuts off) 00:30:32.331 --> 00:30:35.731 Members, We're going to take a break for pictures for those who did not get 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.260 pictures of, right after this resolution is done. 00:30:38.284 --> 00:30:54.684 (audience chatter) 00:30:54.708 --> 00:31:06.808 (microphone cuts out) 00:31:07.060 --> 00:31:09.168 Whereas the National Blue Ribbon Schools program 00:31:09.193 --> 00:31:11.473 recognizes elementary, middle and high schools where 00:31:12.549 --> 00:31:15.215 educational excellence is achieved. Whereas 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.820 a National Blue Ribbon School flag overhead 00:31:17.820 --> 00:31:23.879 is a mark of exemplary teaching and learning. Whereas in 2018, Texas nominated 00:31:23.879 --> 00:31:26.527 twenty six schools to be recognized for their 00:31:26.552 --> 00:31:29.059 students' achievement. Whereas twenty three 00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:32.639 of the schools were named 2018 National Blue Ribbon Schools by the United 00:31:32.639 --> 00:31:35.586 States Department of Education. Now, therefore 00:31:35.611 --> 00:31:38.659 be it resolved that the State Board of Education 00:31:38.659 --> 00:31:42.400 does hereby extend its congratulations to 00:31:42.425 --> 00:31:46.409 Arrow Academy, Liberation Academy, Meadows Place, of Arrow Academy. 00:31:46.409 --> 00:31:54.039 Ann Maggie Elementary School and Hargill Elementary School in Edinburgh CISD. 00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:59.734 Magee. Sorry. Ann Magee Elementary School. Golden 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.860 Rule School, Sunnyside Campus of Golden Rule 00:32:04.860 --> 00:32:13.859 Charter School. Dishman Elementary School in Harlingen CISD. JC Kelly Elementary 00:32:13.859 --> 00:32:19.149 School in Hidalgo ISD. Idea Mission Academy, Mission 00:32:19.174 --> 00:32:23.989 of Idea Public Schools. Jackson Elementary 00:32:23.989 --> 00:32:28.702 School in Lamar CISD. Jay Cullis Elementary 00:32:28.727 --> 00:32:33.629 School in Laredo ISD. Nettie Marshall Academy 00:32:33.629 --> 00:32:38.979 of Dual Language in Nacogdoches ISD. Carmen Anaya Elementary School and 00:32:38.979 --> 00:32:41.917 Cesar Chavez Elementary School in Pharr-San 00:32:41.942 --> 00:32:44.789 Juan-Alamo ISD as exemplary achievement gap 00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:47.693 closing schools. And be it further resolved that 00:32:47.718 --> 00:32:50.479 this resolution be presented to the principals 00:32:50.479 --> 00:32:52.681 of the aforementioned schools being recognized 00:32:52.706 --> 00:32:54.929 for excellence through the National Blue Ribbon 00:32:54.929 --> 00:32:57.089 Schools program and that a copy be included 00:32:57.114 --> 00:32:59.200 in the permanent records of the State Board 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.359 of Education. Witness our signatures, this fifth day of April 2019, in 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:10.388 Austin, Texas. Chair Donna Bahorich, Georgina Perez, Secretary. Congratulations. (microphone cuts out) 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:38.800 (audience chatter) 00:33:38.830 --> 00:33:47.119 I tried to take a picture with you, but they said just two more minutes. 00:33:47.143 --> 00:33:58.043 (audience chatter) 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.395 - Gina, You can go ahead and read the resolution so we could vote on those. 00:34:01.419 --> 00:34:04.619 - There are no more to read. We're done. 00:34:04.643 --> 00:34:09.443 - Oh, well, get up here then. - That's what I was trying to do. 00:34:09.467 --> 00:35:07.967 (microphone turns off) 00:35:07.991 --> 00:35:14.489 (audience chatter) 00:35:14.495 --> 00:35:32.435 - Read the adoption, you know, (microphone cuts out) 00:35:32.459 --> 00:35:34.459 - Good morning. Donna can I say hi to my family that came up? 00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:43.660 Can I say hi to my family that came up? First of all, let me say good morning, 00:35:43.660 --> 00:35:47.595 and it's a very, very good day, a good feeling 00:35:47.620 --> 00:35:51.530 in the room. And I would be remiss if I didn't 00:35:51.530 --> 00:35:56.451 say good morning to my family, which is actually 00:35:56.476 --> 00:36:00.770 my, what's called HISD team, HISD family. 00:36:00.770 --> 00:36:04.621 I know you got on that bus about five. So 00:36:04.646 --> 00:36:08.931 you're looking good right now. Congratulations 00:36:08.931 --> 00:36:11.215 to each and every one of you. And the reason 00:36:11.240 --> 00:36:13.550 we're here today is because we recognize that 00:36:13.550 --> 00:36:19.290 there is excellence all over the state of Texas. And you have proven that today. And 00:36:19.290 --> 00:36:21.843 on behalf of board, we congratulate you seven 00:36:21.868 --> 00:36:24.340 hundred times because you make us all proud. 00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:29.550 Have a safe trip home. And we look forward to seeing you on the other end. Take care. 00:36:35.050 --> 00:36:39.962 - Madam Chair, I move that we approve these resolutions 00:36:39.987 --> 00:36:44.160 as presented. - All those in favor say aye. 00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:46.914 The resolutions have been adopted. Again, hearty 00:36:46.939 --> 00:36:49.500 congratulations to everyone. It's just really 00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:54.860 a privilege to have you here with us today. And I want to make sure that everybody has 00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:57.151 had their pictures taken with their members. 00:36:57.176 --> 00:36:59.290 So we're going to take, like, a just a ten 00:36:59.290 --> 00:37:03.150 minute break just to make sure that we've got everybody connected with their members 00:37:03.150 --> 00:37:05.707 if they didn't get the picture taken early. 00:37:05.732 --> 00:37:08.380 So we'll get back together members, right 00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:13.307 at ten o'clock. Or five til ten. So over here 00:37:13.332 --> 00:37:18.020 in the corner, if you need to take pictures. 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:39.210 Members, I think we've finally gotten all of our pictures taken. And that was really 00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:42.058 wonderful to have everybody here. So many. 00:37:42.083 --> 00:37:45.190 And congratulations to you Mr Cortez, I think 00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:48.708 you are the award winner today. Did you have, 00:37:48.733 --> 00:37:52.150 like, nine schools? That's amazing. That was 00:37:52.150 --> 00:37:59.300 wonderful. Okay, members, we're gonna move on to the first item of the agenda, which 00:37:59.300 --> 00:38:02.581 is the approval of the Consent Agenda, and I 00:38:02.606 --> 00:38:05.790 will be skipping. And that's on page 28 00:38:05.790 --> 00:38:09.025 iin your Board Agenda book. And I will be 00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:12.120 skipping items three and four because those 00:38:12.120 --> 00:38:15.928 will be discussed in the update on the 00:38:15.953 --> 00:38:19.821 report on the Committee on Instruction. Those 00:38:19.821 --> 00:38:22.157 were pulled from the Consent Agenda. So there's 00:38:22.182 --> 00:38:24.250 will have further discussion. When we get 00:38:24.250 --> 00:38:30.490 to those minutes. We're on page twenty eight of 00:38:30.515 --> 00:38:36.470 the Board Agenda book. All right, the Consent 00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:41.940 Agenda is item number one. Procedural action related to new 19 TAC Chapter 113, 00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:47.110 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies, Subchapter C, High School 00:38:47.110 --> 00:38:51.740 113.50, Ethnic Studies Mexican American Studies, one credit, second reading 00:38:51.740 --> 00:38:55.052 and final adoption. Item number two, proposed 00:38:55.077 --> 00:38:58.890 amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 114 00:38:58.890 --> 00:39:01.960 Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Languages Other than English, Subchapter C 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.470 High School 114.53, Advanced Language for Career Applications, 00:39:07.470 --> 00:39:11.460 one credit. Skipping down to item five, which 00:39:11.485 --> 00:39:15.190 is now on page 29. Ratification 00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:17.066 of the purchase and sales of the investment 00:39:17.091 --> 00:39:19.070 portfolio of the Permanent School Fund for the 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:25.230 months of December 2018 and January 2019. Item six. Adoption of an 00:39:25.230 --> 00:39:28.480 annual report on the status of the Bond Guarantee 00:39:28.505 --> 00:39:31.340 Program. Item seven, decision on real estate 00:39:31.340 --> 00:39:34.624 investments. Item eight, review of the Permanent 00:39:34.649 --> 00:39:37.640 School Fund, Real Estate Policy and Tactical 00:39:37.640 --> 00:39:40.118 Plan. Item nine, Review of the Permanent School 00:39:40.143 --> 00:39:42.390 Fund Emerging Market Debt Asset Class. Item 00:39:42.390 --> 00:39:47.780 ten. Presentation on the Permanent School Fund Private Equity Program Structure. Item 00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:53.721 eleven, permanent School Fund Logo Contest Contribution. Item twelve, recommendation 00:39:53.721 --> 00:39:57.417 for appointments to the Boys Ranch School, 00:39:57.442 --> 00:40:01.370 Independent School District Board of Trustees. 00:40:01.370 --> 00:40:05.440 And there were three more items that were added to the Consent Agenda, and I'll just 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:12.280 read those titles. Two of them were from the Permanent School Fund Agenda which 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:18.030 the next item is adoption of review of 19 TAC Chapter 129, Student Attendance, 00:40:18.030 --> 00:40:20.547 Subchapter A, Student Attendance Allowed, and 00:40:20.572 --> 00:40:23.010 Subchapter B, Student Attendance Accounting. 00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:28.140 And this is basically just an adoption of the review itself. So this was added to the 00:40:28.140 --> 00:40:34.990 Consent Agenda. The next item is proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 109, 00:40:34.990 --> 00:40:39.810 Budgeting, Accounting and Auditing, Subchapter C, Adoptions by Reference 109.41, 00:40:39.810 --> 00:40:45.610 Financial Accountability System Resource Guide. Again. First reading and 00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:49.240 filing authorization. That was, has been put 00:40:49.265 --> 00:40:52.950 on the Consent Agenda. And the last item that 00:40:52.950 --> 00:40:58.250 was added to the Consent Agenda was from the Committee on School Initiatives, which is 00:40:58.250 --> 00:41:05.601 the adoption of review of 19 TAC Chapter 157, Hearings and Appeals, Subchapter A, 00:41:05.601 --> 00:41:10.511 General Provisions for Hearings Before the State Board of Education, and Subchapter D, 00:41:10.511 --> 00:41:17.910 Independent Hearing Examiners. Is there any discussion on the Consent Agenda? All 00:41:17.910 --> 00:41:24.250 those in favor say aye, all those opposed say nay. Ayes have it. The motion is adopted 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:30.730 for the Consent Agenda. Next, we're going to go ahead and do our testimony. I believe 00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:34.425 we've got three testifiers today. And you will 00:41:34.450 --> 00:41:38.120 be given three minutes to have your testimony, 00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:43.590 and thirty seconds before the end of your three minutes, you will hear a single bell, 00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:45.740 and that will signal that you're getting down 00:41:45.765 --> 00:41:47.890 to the last thirty seconds. At the end of your 00:41:47.890 --> 00:41:52.490 three minutes you will hear a double bell and that means that your testimony needs be 00:41:52.490 --> 00:41:55.324 wrapped up. So if you'll literally just wrap up 00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.040 your last sentence there, and then, the board 00:41:58.040 --> 00:42:00.714 will have an opportunity to ask you any 00:42:00.739 --> 00:42:03.990 clarifying questions on your testimony. So let's 00:42:03.990 --> 00:42:13.341 go ahead and announce our testifiers. - Jeannette. LeFevers, followed by Sandra West. 00:42:13.341 --> 00:42:16.034 - Good morning. Nice to see you again. This 00:42:16.059 --> 00:42:18.910 will be a short and sweet. I want to thank all 00:42:18.910 --> 00:42:23.260 of you for the work that you have done up to this point. We really, truly do seem to 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:31.040 be getting to the end of the issues with IB. Many of them are scheduled for your next 00:42:31.040 --> 00:42:34.049 meeting. However, there remains one area that 00:42:34.074 --> 00:42:36.730 I want to make sure that you're aware of. 00:42:36.730 --> 00:42:43.790 And that is we have not yet addressed the IB Arts. Other than IB Film. As you well 00:42:43.790 --> 00:42:46.867 know any changes to that chapter will require 00:42:46.892 --> 00:42:49.610 I believe, at least three meetings. So we 00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:53.480 are hopeful that that can be on the next agenda 00:42:53.505 --> 00:42:57.270 and we can finally put these issues to a rest. 00:42:57.270 --> 00:42:59.541 So those have not been addressed as far as 00:42:59.566 --> 00:43:04.570 credits and whether or not they count towards graduation. Thank you. 00:43:08.500 --> 00:43:15.470 - Any questions for Jeanette? And you didn't have a handout for that? 00:43:15.540 --> 00:43:18.822 All right. Hearing none. Thank you. Sandra West, followed by Ronald Smith. Thank you. 00:43:18.846 --> 00:43:22.046 Sandra West, followed by Ronald Smith. 00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:41.570 (microphone cuts off) 00:43:41.594 --> 00:43:42.321 Thank you. 00:43:42.322 --> 00:43:46.076 You think I'd know that wouldn't you, after 00:43:46.101 --> 00:43:50.000 all these years. Sorry. As I was saying I'm speaking 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.846 from the yellow sheets there. When I moved 00:43:51.871 --> 00:43:53.820 from high school and middle school, I learned 00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:57.756 the value of colors. That's actually how I analysed 00:43:57.781 --> 00:44:01.010 some of my phD data. Interestingly enough. 00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:05.150 What I'm speaking on today is, and I want to thank you for the Friday Open mic that 00:44:05.150 --> 00:44:08.595 you have for for us. I'm speaking on Science 00:44:08.620 --> 00:44:12.040 STAAR and other policies that I think impede 00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:16.721 student learning. This was triggered by my 00:44:16.746 --> 00:44:21.510 viewing of the third grade reading marathon. 00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:24.843 I had an ah-ha moment. And then I seemed to 00:44:24.868 --> 00:44:28.480 make some connections among seemingly disparate 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.713 phenomena that will only partially be explained 00:44:31.738 --> 00:44:35.080 today. But perhaps engender a larger conversation 00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:40.470 later. So this is a story. So I put dates on it so you can follow it. In fall of 2015, 00:44:40.470 --> 00:44:45.551 I was observing a fifth grade student, a student teacher, and they 00:44:45.551 --> 00:44:51.510 were teaching series and parallel circuits, and I was quite surprised. So I asked the 00:44:51.510 --> 00:44:55.220 teacher, who was actually a friend of mine, and I said, Why are you doing that? And she 00:44:55.220 --> 00:44:59.590 said, Well, it's in the TEKS, and I said, No, I don't think so. You know, where is the 00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:03.150 evidence? As we say in science. So we pulled out the TEKS, and sure enough, it was not 00:45:03.150 --> 00:45:05.365 in the TEKS and she said, Well, that's in the 00:45:05.390 --> 00:45:07.580 STAAR. And I said naively, Oh, no, you cannot 00:45:07.580 --> 00:45:11.857 test it on STAAR if it's not in the TEKS. And 00:45:11.882 --> 00:45:15.670 so she pulled out a fifth grade item, and 00:45:15.670 --> 00:45:20.711 in that item, it said something about a series 00:45:20.736 --> 00:45:25.430 circuits in the STEM. So if you, 00:45:25.430 --> 00:45:29.891 and I actually have the fifth grade Science TEKS there, it's 6.5b if you want 00:45:29.891 --> 00:45:34.581 to see the actual language of it, which is actually just about a complete circuit. So 00:45:34.581 --> 00:45:38.238 in December, I contacted TEA about this misleading 00:45:38.263 --> 00:45:41.310 STAAR language, which actually resulted in 00:45:41.310 --> 00:45:43.404 fifth grade science teachers not only teaching 00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:45.320 about what a complete circuit is, which is 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.377 critical for survival, but series and parallel 00:45:48.402 --> 00:45:51.500 and I was quite surprised because when I taught 00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:55.880 IPC, that's in IPC TEKS, and I actually have that listed on there for you if you'd 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.680 like to compare it. So when I asked TEA about 00:45:59.705 --> 00:46:03.480 the misleading STAAR language, they responded 00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.209 in blue there and they were saying that they 00:46:06.234 --> 00:46:09.180 really were not testing series and parallel 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:12.337 circuits, only a complete circuit. Nevertheless, 00:46:12.362 --> 00:46:15.300 what has resulted from that term series being 00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:18.656 in a STAAR, STEM, a STAAR item in the STEM 00:46:18.681 --> 00:46:22.090 is that teachers are teaching far beyond, in 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:28.180 this case, four years beyond what an eleven year old should be learning about complete 00:46:28.180 --> 00:46:31.535 circuits. So that has had an impact. As we've 00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:34.890 seen in the classroom and district's and lead 00:46:34.890 --> 00:46:37.193 forward documents and other instructional 00:46:37.218 --> 00:46:39.770 materials. I'm going to skip the next section, 00:46:39.770 --> 00:46:42.664 which is about eighth grade, a similar problem 00:46:42.689 --> 00:46:45.250 in the eighth grade and then jump over to 00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:50.610 2018. Well, you know, I'm an Aggie and so I'm a little slow and so finally 00:46:50.610 --> 00:46:57.500 in, you can say that you see if you're an Aggie. So what I discovered was in the TEA 00:46:57.500 --> 00:47:01.212 performance level descriptors. And, sure enough, 00:47:01.237 --> 00:47:04.470 in the level three it has explain the flow 00:47:04.470 --> 00:47:13.220 of energy in series and parallel circuits. That my bell? - Yes, Mr. Mercer? 00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:16.804 - Madam Chair. Just a quick moment. Two items 00:47:16.829 --> 00:47:20.310 of personal privilege. First, Dr Sandra West 00:47:20.310 --> 00:47:28.980 is my 2019 MVC. That's right, MVS, my Most Valuable Constituents. And the 00:47:28.980 --> 00:47:30.781 first two of two items, she brought, she's always 00:47:30.806 --> 00:47:32.690 bringing us some great students. She's has two young 00:47:32.690 --> 00:47:34.968 men. If you please stand Mr Wright and Mr. 00:47:34.993 --> 00:47:37.510 Gurut, who are this semester are finishing their 00:47:37.510 --> 00:47:42.630 student teaching and will be entering Texas public schools teaching middle school 00:47:42.630 --> 00:47:46.606 science. Welcome to your State Board of Education. And a second 00:47:46.631 --> 00:47:50.210 personal, have another friend today. I love a constituient 00:47:50.210 --> 00:47:55.780 to come. They all want to see how the State Board operates. I'm not sure they had 00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:59.890 trouble sleeping or what, but they want to come see what we do. But another friend, 00:47:59.890 --> 00:48:02.267 Doctor Miss Lonnie Pope, a twenty five year 00:48:02.292 --> 00:48:04.810 special ed teacher in speech pathology, which 00:48:04.810 --> 00:48:06.654 is now called the Communication Sciences. 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.630 She's here today. Lonnie if you please stand. 00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:11.625 And she has five children but four are public 00:48:11.650 --> 00:48:14.490 school teachers. One in high school physics. 00:48:14.490 --> 00:48:17.195 And three of followed their Mom, and all three got 00:48:17.220 --> 00:48:19.900 their masters in speech pathology or communication 00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:24.695 science disorders. Welcome to the State Board. Thank you, Madam Chair. 00:48:24.720 --> 00:48:29.220 - Absolutely, do we have any questions specifically for Dr West? Yes, Ms. Hardy. 00:48:29.220 --> 00:48:40.510 Thank you. As always, being a favorite constituent of all of us. Actually. What do 00:48:40.510 --> 00:48:44.577 you think happened if you, the time period 00:48:44.602 --> 00:48:48.470 that you're talking about is two years prior 00:48:48.470 --> 00:48:54.780 to, so you gave people heads up, and then it still showed up again two years later. 00:48:54.780 --> 00:49:00.060 That what I'm understanding? - Well, actually, if you look on the blue document, my color 00:49:00.060 --> 00:49:04.970 code for TEA is blue. So if you look on that blue document, downat the bottom. I 00:49:04.970 --> 00:49:09.196 think you'LL see a time stamp or something down 00:49:09.221 --> 00:49:13.070 at the bottom of that one. - I didn't get that one. 00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:16.283 I didn't get one of those. Got forgotten. 00:49:16.308 --> 00:49:21.180 - So that's a copy of those performance level descriptors which 00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:27.770 the series and parallel circuits language has been in there since what? 2012 or 13? 00:49:27.770 --> 00:49:33.880 So it's, you know, it's been there quite a while, and it's not. It's 00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.381 not so much the idea of requiring them to 00:49:36.406 --> 00:49:39.060 teach it, which this is how it's interpreted. 00:49:39.060 --> 00:49:44.660 But just that language vocabulary words of series and parallel tells everybody, Okay, 00:49:44.660 --> 00:49:46.789 this is going to be on STAAR, and they need 00:49:46.814 --> 00:49:48.870 to know it if they're going to move to that 00:49:48.870 --> 00:49:54.570 Level 3 on their scores. - But the frightening part about this is that this is just one 00:49:54.570 --> 00:50:01.180 thing that you've come across by chance because you were in the classroom and what 00:50:01.180 --> 00:50:05.045 else might be on the test that might be throwing teachers 00:50:05.070 --> 00:50:08.310 off and kids off is the concerning part. Because 00:50:08.310 --> 00:50:14.500 I don't think it's isolated. - Well, I think what I'm hoping is this engenders a larger 00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:19.620 conversation because I think there's many policies that we have that I see where it 00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:22.436 impedes student learning. And I have the eighth 00:50:22.461 --> 00:50:24.900 grade example in there Haven't gotten to 00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:30.918 high school biology yet. - Thank you. 00:50:30.943 --> 00:50:36.310 So, Monica, you know, maybe you can explain this to me 00:50:36.310 --> 00:50:41.620 now that you're working in this area, you know, working on the assessments and which 00:50:41.620 --> 00:50:49.310 I really am glad we've got more of a tie in with our standards with your group. And 00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:54.167 what I guess I don't understand on the advanced 00:50:54.192 --> 00:50:58.620 part, why would we put out information that 00:50:58.620 --> 00:51:01.884 wouldn't be aligned specifically to the standards 00:51:01.909 --> 00:51:05.010 for that grade that indicates anything about 00:51:05.010 --> 00:51:12.860 what, you know that, okay, now we want you to do these advanced standards that really 00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:17.460 aren't, that are not in the TEKS. I guess I'm confused. I understand why you'd 00:51:17.460 --> 00:51:20.970 want to be sure and have a testing range where, 00:51:20.995 --> 00:51:24.260 you know, it's below the grade, at the grade, 00:51:24.260 --> 00:51:26.666 maybe above the grade somewhat. But then to 00:51:26.691 --> 00:51:29.290 suggest standards that are not in the standards 00:51:29.290 --> 00:51:31.691 as being, this will, this will get you up to 00:51:31.716 --> 00:51:33.931 this point. I'm confused about that. Maybe 00:51:33.931 --> 00:51:36.798 you could explain that. - So I think we have a 00:51:36.823 --> 00:51:39.411 couple of issues here. Number one. You're 00:51:39.411 --> 00:51:44.250 not posted to have this discussion, so I'm not sure that it's really appropriate for 00:51:44.250 --> 00:51:48.850 us to engage in. I mean, you can certainly ask questions of the testifier, but we're 00:51:48.850 --> 00:51:51.667 certainly not prepared. And I would say that 00:51:51.692 --> 00:51:54.610 I'm going to borrow some of Shelly's language. 00:51:54.610 --> 00:51:56.936 We probably know just enough to be dangerous. 00:51:56.961 --> 00:51:59.010 I think that this is a complex issue that 00:51:59.010 --> 00:52:05.900 I would not want to misrepresent. I would wanna have our content directors in the room 00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:08.057 to have that conversation with you. So that's 00:52:08.082 --> 00:52:10.120 a conversation that the board would like to 00:52:10.120 --> 00:52:13.371 have. You can certainly put an item on your 00:52:13.396 --> 00:52:16.770 next agenda, and we can have that discussion, 00:52:16.770 --> 00:52:18.848 but we're number one, you're not posted to 00:52:18.873 --> 00:52:21.070 have the discussion. And number two, we don't 00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:24.553 have the right staff in the room to be able to 00:52:24.578 --> 00:52:28.110 provide you with the best possible explanations 00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:31.905 of what are some not simple matters. 00:52:31.930 --> 00:52:37.650 - Gotcha. Dr. Robinson then Miss Cargill. - Yeah. I mean, 00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.070 this is another example of, and I don't know, 00:52:41.095 --> 00:52:44.490 factually if this's the case or not, but I mean 00:52:44.490 --> 00:52:47.277 another example that maybe the STAAR is testing 00:52:47.302 --> 00:52:50.180 above grade level, which is, if that's happening, 00:52:50.180 --> 00:52:53.055 that's a serious problem. It's a serious problem. 00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:55.700 So I mean, I personally would like, you know, 00:52:55.700 --> 00:52:57.790 I know the Commissioner the other day said that 00:52:57.815 --> 00:52:59.750 they looked at it a couple years ago and it's on 00:52:59.750 --> 00:53:05.881 Um, personally, that's not, that's not good enough for me, really. I would 00:53:05.881 --> 00:53:08.470 like maybe the next meeting or sometime, I 00:53:08.495 --> 00:53:11.240 don't know. in the next couple meetings, have 00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:15.533 another review by staff. Looking at it, as some 00:53:15.558 --> 00:53:19.460 of these issues is, are we sure, are we a hundred 00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:22.313 percent certain that we're teaching on grade 00:53:22.338 --> 00:53:25.420 level? - So I would just say as the Commissioner 00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:28.295 has said, we feel very confident in the validity 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.810 and reliability of the tests. We're happy 00:53:30.810 --> 00:53:36.940 to go back and look at specific issues that were raised. Certainly we're trying to do 00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.245 those things. For those of you who have, were 00:53:40.270 --> 00:53:43.340 not on the board before, you may or may not 00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.421 know that the curriculum division did not play 00:53:46.446 --> 00:53:49.370 the same role a few years ago in a assessment 00:53:49.370 --> 00:53:55.370 that we do now. So we are absolutely in a position where we want to make sure that 00:53:55.370 --> 00:54:01.720 we are looking at and understanding all of these issues ourselves because we, prior to 00:54:01.720 --> 00:54:07.880 2017, did not have that primary responsibility. And so we are working on all 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.381 of those issues. I think we just want to make 00:54:11.406 --> 00:54:14.730 sure that we're clear that they are complex 00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:22.420 issues and there's some things, it is easy to have some misunderstanding. 00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:26.560 Which is why I don't want to get into the details because I don't want to add to any 00:54:26.560 --> 00:54:29.522 potential confusion that might exist. 00:54:29.547 --> 00:54:32.420 - Okay, so what we can do members if we'll just restrict 00:54:32.420 --> 00:54:35.582 our questions to Dr West specifically about 00:54:35.607 --> 00:54:38.960 this issue about, so that we understand clearly 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.605 if there's any question about that so staff 00:54:41.630 --> 00:54:44.310 could go work on that later on. Miss Cargill? 00:54:44.310 --> 00:54:49.870 - Yeah, I just, and Dr Robinson reminded everybody, that way did talk about this with 00:54:49.870 --> 00:54:55.260 the Commissioner. And it was actually with Sandra's help that I brought this issue up 00:54:55.260 --> 00:54:58.428 about the example of the series and parallel circuits. 00:54:58.453 --> 00:55:01.020 I did send this example to the Commissioner, 00:55:01.020 --> 00:55:07.680 and I copied Monica and you, Madam Chair. And so hopefully we can talk about this more 00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:10.335 because I think it's just some updating that 00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:13.050 needs to happen. But it is pretty disturbing, 00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:17.060 as you mentioned that companies like Leap Forward are using these performance level 00:55:17.060 --> 00:55:23.680 descriptors from 2013, which I understand why, you know, that they're going 00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:25.197 to the level three. Of course, that you're 00:55:25.222 --> 00:55:26.820 going to jump to level three because you want 00:55:26.820 --> 00:55:29.754 your kids to master above and beyond to do 00:55:29.779 --> 00:55:32.960 well on the test. So could you, did you finish 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:38.039 your testimony, or could you wrap it up? You were mid-sentence. 00:55:38.064 --> 00:55:40.340 - Yeah, it's an answer to your 00:55:40.340 --> 00:55:44.089 question. If you look on that back page there, 00:55:44.114 --> 00:55:47.440 I had made a suggestion for a possibility 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.390 for a level three descriptor in this particular instance. Apply scientific ideas 00:55:52.390 --> 00:55:58.310 to design, test and refine a device that converts energy from one form to another. 00:55:58.310 --> 00:56:02.077 So that would move students beyond that minimum 00:56:02.102 --> 00:56:05.530 level of the TEKS if you would. But it does 00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:08.632 not add more vocabulary or other concepts to 00:56:08.657 --> 00:56:11.940 them. So this is very much an application STEM. 00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:14.858 - And I think these are good. This is pretty clear. 00:56:14.883 --> 00:56:17.440 So maybe, you know, this kind of helps that to 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.082 know where to go from there. Yes, Miss Davis. 00:56:22.107 --> 00:56:25.210 - Thank you. I also want to note 00:56:25.210 --> 00:56:27.770 that the series and parallel is included in 00:56:27.795 --> 00:56:30.271 the junior physics curriculum as well. When 00:56:30.271 --> 00:56:33.900 I taught physics, I actually had to go to a couple of elementary schools and go over 00:56:33.900 --> 00:56:38.619 this exact lesson because we had a lot of tools and equipment to teach that. But the 00:56:38.619 --> 00:56:41.328 elementary teachers did not. And so I know 00:56:41.353 --> 00:56:44.100 it is very advanced. In your opinion, should 00:56:44.100 --> 00:56:50.100 they not be exposed to this vocabulary at this young of an age? How are they 00:56:50.100 --> 00:56:52.309 testing on this particular item? 00:56:52.334 --> 00:56:56.450 - Well, if you, I don't remember if I left the assessment 00:56:56.450 --> 00:57:00.641 in there, but the vocabulary words are introduced 00:57:00.666 --> 00:57:04.580 with the level three, they're not assessed, being 00:57:04.580 --> 00:57:07.876 assessed on series and parallel. But that instruction 00:57:07.901 --> 00:57:10.440 is occurring in the classroom because the 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.303 vocabulary is in the level three performance 00:57:14.328 --> 00:57:18.080 descriptors. And so, as you see, it's being 00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:23.730 taught. I taught it in IPC High School. I mean, electricians need to know series 00:57:23.730 --> 00:57:27.869 and parallels, not you and me. You know, we just need to know a complete circuit so we 00:57:27.869 --> 00:57:35.031 don't get electrocuted. - Dr. Ellis? - Ms. West, thank you for being here. You know, I 00:57:35.031 --> 00:57:37.810 think a lot of times when we try to raise issues such as this, we're going to raise 00:57:37.810 --> 00:57:42.670 it to the awareness of the legislators who are the ones who can work with us. I know 00:57:42.670 --> 00:57:44.208 that this has been a very hot topic in the 00:57:44.233 --> 00:57:45.890 Legislature. In fact, I believe Representative 00:57:45.890 --> 00:57:48.416 Bernal has a bill to this exact point that's, I think, in 00:57:48.441 --> 00:57:50.780 hearing in Public Ed on Tuesday. Have you 00:57:50.780 --> 00:57:55.880 been working with them also, as again we have some control over some of these issues, 00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.423 but really it's falling over there. Have you 00:57:58.448 --> 00:58:00.910 gone down that avenue with some of the Legislature? 00:58:00.910 --> 00:58:08.080 I was there twelve hours yesterday with a three hour drive back and forth, actually 00:58:08.080 --> 00:58:11.184 twice, so six hours drive, but I have not been working 00:58:11.209 --> 00:58:13.780 with Representative Bernal on that particular 00:58:13.780 --> 00:58:16.389 issue. I do this part time, you know, as a 00:58:16.414 --> 00:58:19.240 volunteer, etcetera. And it's hard to keep up, 00:58:19.240 --> 00:58:26.270 I have no staff, so it's hard to keep up with all of it. But I will go back to Senator 00:58:26.270 --> 00:58:41.340 Bernall on this. Thank you - Any other questions of Doctor West. Thank you. 00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:51.530 - Ronald Smith. - Dr. Ron Little Smith, drove over here from Junction this morning to testify, and 00:58:51.530 --> 00:58:55.147 I'm thankful that you folks are hearing testiomony. 00:58:55.172 --> 00:58:57.930 Appreciate it. I'm an emeritus professor 00:58:57.930 --> 00:59:01.324 of biology from the University of Alaska in 00:59:01.349 --> 00:59:04.950 Fairbanks. I'm the author of an Alaska Science 00:59:04.950 --> 00:59:08.668 book called "Interior And Northern Alaska: A Natural History." 00:59:08.693 --> 00:59:12.150 I'm also the author of the novel "Undeserved Punishments." 00:59:12.150 --> 00:59:19.281 These are two components of the TPS publishing company STEM oriented ELAR 00:59:19.281 --> 00:59:26.990 curricula, program's K through eight, that the panels, the review panel's confirmed 00:59:26.990 --> 00:59:34.170 aligned with the TEK standards at one hundred percent in all grade levels. The board 00:59:34.170 --> 00:59:41.550 rejected all eighteen TPS curricula. Two at every grade level K through eight. You were 00:59:41.550 --> 00:59:48.640 given in correct inaccurate data about the edits and rejected the courses based on 00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:52.281 wrong information. The TPS edits were less than 00:59:52.306 --> 00:59:55.619 those of other publishers who were actually 00:59:55.619 --> 01:00:02.510 passed. There are only three courses which had any negative panel results at all. So 01:00:02.510 --> 01:00:09.210 I'm asking why were the other courses not approved and adopted? The Grade One panelist 01:00:09.210 --> 01:00:13.551 confirmed their delight in the program. So why 01:00:13.576 --> 01:00:17.800 did grade one could not pass? Your staff made 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:23.999 TPS move commas and edits into errors and corrections, 01:00:24.024 --> 01:00:29.070 making TPS error numbers look high. No other 01:00:29.070 --> 01:00:32.758 publisher was treated in this way and I want 01:00:32.783 --> 01:00:36.610 to know why. A letter from TPS legal 01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:40.399 counsel was sent to each State Board member. 01:00:40.424 --> 01:00:44.360 And at the last meeting, one of you hadn't seen 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:55.580 it apparently. A copy was sent and TPS was advised that State Board 01:00:55.580 --> 01:00:58.715 of Education Legal was reviewing the appeal. 01:00:58.740 --> 01:01:01.780 TPS has recently been advised that there is 01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:11.140 no state appeals process and I'm wondering why that is the case as well. TPS was told 01:01:11.140 --> 01:01:15.264 that the matter had been sent back to you the 01:01:15.289 --> 01:01:18.940 State Board for review and consideration. 01:01:18.940 --> 01:01:21.425 Can I personally receive a response to these 01:01:21.450 --> 01:01:24.130 questions? And I have this testimony in writing. 01:01:24.130 --> 01:01:32.220 I can leave a copy with you. Over two years of work put in by multiple Texas teachers 01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:35.425 like myself. And yet the word of one panelist 01:01:35.450 --> 01:01:38.770 appears to have thwarted two excellent programs 01:01:38.770 --> 01:01:42.995 from being on the approved list. The TPS STEM-oriented 01:01:43.020 --> 01:01:46.770 ELAR curricula would have been 01:01:46.770 --> 01:01:51.656 the only such curricula available to students 01:01:51.681 --> 01:01:56.010 in Texas. Now, none are available. I urge 01:01:56.010 --> 01:02:00.314 you to reverse your decision and fully approved 01:02:00.339 --> 01:02:04.080 the TPS ELAR curricula. I have my contact 01:02:04.080 --> 01:02:11.800 information on this testimony. Thank you. - Anybody have any questions for Dr Smith? 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.675 Yes, Dr Ellis? - The question may be for staff. 01:02:14.700 --> 01:02:17.310 I know that we're not, under public comment, 01:02:17.310 --> 01:02:19.409 able to have discussion or dialogue on specific 01:02:19.434 --> 01:02:21.330 issues. But one thing we are allowed to do 01:02:21.330 --> 01:02:23.609 during public comment is direct the testifier 01:02:23.634 --> 01:02:25.740 to appropriate staff that might be able to 01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:28.264 answer those questions. Is there an appropriat 01:02:28.289 --> 01:02:30.320 staff member that we could direct him to 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.929 get some of these questions dealt with? 01:02:32.954 --> 01:02:36.190 - Dr Ellis? You can certainly direct them to us. 01:02:36.190 --> 01:02:39.160 I believe that we've provided those answers to 01:02:39.185 --> 01:02:41.940 the extent that we can in writing already 01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:46.930 via email. But you can certainly direct them 01:02:46.955 --> 01:02:51.810 to me. - Any other questions? Thank you, sir. 01:02:51.810 --> 01:02:58.880 Okay, members, that's all for testimony today, and we're going to go into Committee 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.758 of the Full Board. I believe Mr Rowley is up. 01:03:01.783 --> 01:03:05.200 - Members, if you will take your Committee of the Full 01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:09.860 Board minutes that were provided to you today. 01:03:09.885 --> 01:03:14.520 We'll begin on page two of that document, it's 01:03:14.520 --> 01:03:24.001 Item three. On your Board Agenda, Page I-10. It's recommended that the State Board 01:03:24.001 --> 01:03:26.852 of Education postpones consideration of second 01:03:26.877 --> 01:03:29.400 reading and final adoption of proposed 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:34.790 amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B, 01:03:34.790 --> 01:03:40.200 Graduation Requirements, Section 74.12, Foundation High School program, 01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:48.380 and Section 74.13, Endorsements, until the June 2019 meeting. 01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:52.278 - So the motion before us is to postpone consideration 01:03:52.303 --> 01:03:55.609 and second reading and final adoption of proposed 01:03:55.609 --> 01:04:01.100 amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B 01:04:01.100 --> 01:04:05.810 Graduation Requirement, 74.12, Foundation High School program, and 01:04:05.810 --> 01:04:11.770 74.13, Endorsements, until the June 2019 meeting. All 01:04:11.770 --> 01:04:17.860 those in favor say aye, all those opposed say no. 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.875 All right, members. Next one. 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.381 - And this one will be a little different. It's 01:04:42.406 --> 01:04:44.650 item four, page two of your Committee of the 01:04:44.650 --> 01:04:47.830 Full Board. But there's been a correction with 01:04:47.855 --> 01:04:51.280 regard to the to the motion or the recommendation. 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.460 So it is recommended that the State Board of Education approve for second reading and 01:04:56.460 --> 01:05:02.880 final adoption proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 126, Texas Essential Knowledge and 01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.967 Skills for Technology Applications, Subchapter 01:05:05.992 --> 01:05:08.920 C, High School, Section 126.51 01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:15.090 Foundations of Cybersecurity, one credit, and Section 126.52 01:05:15.090 --> 01:05:24.640 Cybersecurity Capstone, one credit, and I guess read the rest of that too, make an affirmative finding 01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:30.920 that immediate adoption of proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 126, Texas Essential 01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.803 Knowledge and Skills for Technology Applications, 01:05:33.828 --> 01:05:36.340 Subchapter C, High School, Section 126.51, 01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:42.200 Foundations of Cybersecurity, one Credit, and Section 126.52 01:05:42.200 --> 01:05:48.260 Cybersecurity Capstone, One Credit, is necessary and shall have an effective date 01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:56.930 of August 1, 2019. - Any discussion on that? Hearing none, then this will be a show 01:05:56.930 --> 01:06:04.033 of hands. All those in favor, raise your hands. 01:06:04.058 --> 01:06:10.380 All those opposed raise your hands. 01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:17.260 Motion is adopted per a vote of two-thirds of the members of the board that makes that 01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:20.225 August 1 date applicable. All right, next item. 01:06:20.250 --> 01:06:23.190 Next item is on the top of page three of your Committee 01:06:23.190 --> 01:06:26.701 of the Full Board minutes. It's agenda item five. 01:06:26.726 --> 01:06:29.720 It's on your Board Agenda book, page I-41. 01:06:29.720 --> 01:06:34.520 It's recommended that the State Board of Education suspend the board operating 01:06:34.520 --> 01:06:39.880 procedures in accordance with Section 5.2A to allow consideration at first 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.502 reading and filing authorization and approve 01:06:42.527 --> 01:06:45.010 for first reading and filing authorization 01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:50.941 proposed repeal and and new 19 TAC Chapter 126, Texas Essential Knowledge 01:06:50.941 --> 01:06:57.040 and Skills for Technology Applications, Subchapter C, High School, Section 126.36, 01:06:57.040 --> 01:07:11.620 Digital Forensics, one credit - Any discussion on this item? Yes, Miss Hardy? 01:07:11.620 --> 01:07:16.227 - What are we trying to do with this one? Trying to what? Postpone it? 01:07:16.252 --> 01:07:20.500 - We substituted. On this one we're not. - Miss Miss Hardy. This 01:07:20.500 --> 01:07:28.359 item is thie digital forensics course and based on discussion among board members and 01:07:28.359 --> 01:07:33.990 some testimony you heard about the level of that course, the Committee that worked 01:07:33.990 --> 01:07:36.180 on the other cybersecurity courses, they're 01:07:36.205 --> 01:07:38.420 recommending adjustments to digital learning 01:07:38.420 --> 01:07:41.514 so that that's an appropriate course to include 01:07:41.539 --> 01:07:44.350 in that pathway. But because of the the way 01:07:44.350 --> 01:07:47.233 that they restructured the course, it is set 01:07:47.258 --> 01:07:50.180 up as will repeal the old and replace it with 01:07:50.180 --> 01:07:54.020 the new as opposed to showing you a bunch of underlines and strike through. That would 01:07:54.020 --> 01:07:59.280 have gotten a little bit confusing. So this is first reading. - Appreciate it. Thank you. 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.525 - Yeah, that was a good course. It was just too 01:08:02.550 --> 01:08:05.500 high level. So this committee worked on it. 01:08:05.500 --> 01:08:11.670 Yeah, absolutely. Any other discussion on that item? All those in favor say Aye. All 01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:16.240 those opposed say no. Ayes have it. Motion is adopted. 01:08:16.265 --> 01:08:19.231 - Okay. Next item is Item six. Agenda 01:08:19.231 --> 01:08:24.509 item six, it's on your Board Agenda book, page I-45. It is recommended that 01:08:24.509 --> 01:08:26.893 the State Board of Education approve for first 01:08:26.918 --> 01:08:29.029 reading and filing authorization proposed 01:08:29.029 --> 01:08:34.409 revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 110, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for English 01:08:34.409 --> 01:08:40.239 Language Arts and Reading, and 19 TAC Chapter 128 Texas Essential 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.829 Knowledge and Skills for Spanish Language Arts 01:08:42.854 --> 01:08:45.309 and Reading and English As a Second language 01:08:45.309 --> 01:08:50.480 - As amended. Any discussion on this item? All 01:08:50.505 --> 01:08:55.100 those in favor say aye. All those opposed 01:08:55.100 --> 01:08:59.536 say nay. Ayes have it. - Okay, The next item is 01:08:59.561 --> 01:09:04.069 item seven. It's on page four of your minutes, 01:09:04.069 --> 01:09:09.729 and it's official agenda item number seven. Border Agenda Page I-95. It's 01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:14.230 recommended that the State Board of Education approved the Perkins Five Transition plan. 01:09:14.230 --> 01:09:24.849 - Any discussion on that motion? All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say no. 01:09:24.849 --> 01:09:27.122 Ayes have it. Motion was adopted. 01:09:27.147 --> 01:09:31.400 Okay, The last item is on the top of page five of your minutes. 01:09:31.400 --> 01:09:35.212 It's Board Agenda, it's official agenda Item 01:09:35.237 --> 01:09:39.109 eight. Your minutes, Item number nine. Board 01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:44.889 Agenda Page I-150. It is recommended that State Board of Education ratify the report 01:09:44.889 --> 01:09:50.009 of the Commissioner of Education regarding TEKS and ELPS alignment in instructional 01:09:50.009 --> 01:09:55.719 materials submitted to the instructional materials quality evaluation pilot. - Any discussion 01:09:55.719 --> 01:10:04.960 on that item. Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. All those opposed say no. Ayes 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:10.659 have it. Motion is adopted. - Madam Chair, that's the last of the... - Of the Committe of the Full Board. 01:10:10.659 --> 01:10:14.774 Terrific. All right. Moving on to the Committee on Instruction. 01:10:14.799 --> 01:10:17.731 And I Believe Miss Melton Malone, you are up. 01:10:17.731 --> 01:10:21.664 - Thank you, Madam Chair. In your minutes on the 01:10:21.689 --> 01:10:26.079 Committee on Instruction, item number one on the first 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:33.619 page. Proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74. This is in your Board Agenda 01:10:33.619 --> 01:10:39.170 on page 2-1. On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I move that the State Board 01:10:39.170 --> 01:10:41.973 of Education approve for first reading and filing 01:10:41.998 --> 01:10:44.440 authorization the proposed amendment to 01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:50.930 19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter A, Required Curriculum, 74.6 01:10:50.930 --> 01:10:57.880 College and Career Readiness, and Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills alignment. 01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.589 - Any discussion on that item? All those in 01:11:01.614 --> 01:11:05.550 favor say aye, all those opposed say nay. Ayes 01:11:05.550 --> 01:11:15.829 have it. Motion's adopted. Our next item is on page two. It's number three. On behalf 01:11:15.829 --> 01:11:17.879 of the Committee on Instruction, I move that 01:11:17.904 --> 01:11:19.929 the State Board of Education is to suspend the 01:11:19.929 --> 01:11:25.249 board operating procedures in accordance with 5.2A to allow consideration at 01:11:25.249 --> 01:11:30.329 first reading and filing authorization and approve for first reading and 01:11:30.329 --> 01:11:36.690 filing authorization the proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 111, Texas 01:11:36.690 --> 01:11:39.147 Essential Knowledge and Skills for Mathematics, 01:11:39.172 --> 01:11:41.400 Subchapter D, other High School mathematics courses. 01:11:41.400 --> 01:11:53.020 - Any discussion on that item? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. All those 01:11:53.020 --> 01:11:56.540 opposed say nay. Ayes have it. Motion is adopted. 01:11:56.565 --> 01:11:59.849 - Moving on to page three in your minutes. 01:11:59.849 --> 01:12:03.062 It's item number four. On behalf of the Committee 01:12:03.087 --> 01:12:05.890 on Instruction, I move that the State Board 01:12:05.890 --> 01:12:10.090 of Education suspend the board operating procedures in accordance with 5.2A 01:12:10.090 --> 01:12:15.850 to allow consideration at first reading and filing authorization and approve for 01:12:15.850 --> 01:12:21.010 first reading and filing authorzation proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74 01:12:21.010 --> 01:12:27.579 Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B, Graduation requirements, Section 74.11, 01:12:27.579 --> 01:12:35.360 High school graduation requirements. - Any discussion on that item? Hearing 01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:39.418 none, then all those in favor say aye. All those 01:12:39.443 --> 01:12:42.979 opposed say nay. The ayes have it and that 01:12:42.979 --> 01:12:52.300 motions was adopted. - All right, We're on item number six, and the motion is on page four in your minutes. 01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:54.332 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I 01:12:54.357 --> 01:12:56.409 move that the State Board of Education 01:12:56.409 --> 01:13:03.530 approve Peer Assistance and Leadership, PALs 1 and 2, and Student Leadership 01:13:03.530 --> 01:13:06.267 for a renewal period of three years. 01:13:06.292 --> 01:13:10.780 - Any discussion on that item? Hearing none, all those in favor 01:13:10.780 --> 01:13:15.743 say aye. All those opposed say no. Ayes have it, and motion's adopted. 01:13:15.768 --> 01:13:17.560 The next one, right under that, 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.378 on behalf of Committee on Instruction, I move 01:13:20.403 --> 01:13:22.889 that the State Board of Education approve 01:13:22.889 --> 01:13:31.239 lead worthy the course for a renewal period of five years. - Any discussion on that item. 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:39.980 All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say no. Ayes have it. Motion's adopted. 01:13:39.980 --> 01:13:47.900 Item number seven wass on the Consent Agenda. But we decided that we would like 01:13:47.900 --> 01:13:51.201 to postpone that until the June meeting. It's on 01:13:51.226 --> 01:13:54.300 the Think Circa, and we need more information 01:13:54.300 --> 01:13:59.460 from them. We need to see a rubric and some other information from them. The 01:13:59.460 --> 01:14:05.530 lady that was there was not very informative. She didn't have very many answers for 01:14:05.530 --> 01:14:11.139 us. So on behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I move that the State Board of Education postpone 01:14:11.139 --> 01:14:18.340 the vote to approve the request from Think Circa to update Think Circa Texas Edition 01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:24.960 Grade 6, Think Circa Texas Edition Grade 7, and Think Circa Texas Edition Grade 8. 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:31.630 adopted in November 2018 under Proclamation 2019. - Any discussion 01:14:31.630 --> 01:14:39.510 on that item? - Madam Chair? Postpone to a time certain? To June? - Yeah, until the June meeting. 01:14:39.510 --> 01:14:45.719 - Yes, go ahead, Ms Melton Malone. - We were a little bit concerned with some of the selections 01:14:45.719 --> 01:14:49.151 that they were putting into their curriculum. 01:14:49.176 --> 01:14:52.360 They were very derogatory toward girls and 01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:56.950 so we think perhaps, maybe it'd be a good idea if we 01:14:56.975 --> 01:15:02.050 looked at more of it before we okayed everything. 01:15:02.050 --> 01:15:09.150 So we're asking to postpone till June. - Any other discussion? All those in favor 01:15:09.150 --> 01:15:18.610 of postponement say aye. All those opposed say no. Hearing no opposition, that motion is adopted. 01:15:18.610 --> 01:15:25.699 And our next one was also on the Consent Agenda. But we want to, want it 01:15:25.699 --> 01:15:28.369 removed. We had it removed from Consent Agenda 01:15:28.394 --> 01:15:30.869 for further consideration by the Full Board. 01:15:30.869 --> 01:15:33.233 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I 01:15:33.258 --> 01:15:35.650 move that the State Board of Education ratify 01:15:35.650 --> 01:15:43.849 the second set of TXLS Resources as presented in Attachment A.This is just 01:15:43.849 --> 01:15:51.229 the next set of lesson plans that go with the Texas Lesson study. And but there 01:15:51.229 --> 01:15:53.868 were some concerns that we had about the program 01:15:53.893 --> 01:15:56.130 that we want some more information on and 01:15:56.130 --> 01:15:59.858 Blair's here, I think, if you need any questions 01:15:59.883 --> 01:16:03.130 answered, but she's going to be getting us 01:16:03.130 --> 01:16:07.380 some more information. But we did want to pull it off the Consent Agenda in case 01:16:07.380 --> 01:16:15.329 you all needed to discuss anything. - Yes, Miss Hardy, then Miss Litte. - I have a simple question. 01:16:15.329 --> 01:16:18.480 How do we access Texas Lesson Study. 01:16:18.505 --> 01:16:23.420 - It's on the Texas Gateway, Miss Hardy. We can certainly 01:16:23.420 --> 01:16:26.456 send, so there was some information that was 01:16:26.481 --> 01:16:29.289 sent to board members, I think back end of 01:16:29.289 --> 01:16:35.133 2018. We can send that information back out to everyone. 01:16:35.158 --> 01:16:37.389 - That would be good. - Miss Little? - Well, I had 01:16:37.389 --> 01:16:42.210 the same concern. I didn't feel like I could support it because I hadn't looked at it. 01:16:42.210 --> 01:16:47.960 And if I can have the link or whatever to look at that, that may alleviate my 01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:50.878 concern. Also, in looking at these, I want to 01:16:50.903 --> 01:16:53.860 be sure that these lessons have the, especially 01:16:53.860 --> 01:16:59.139 the Language Arts ones, have the pedagogy and the research based reading instruction 01:16:59.139 --> 01:17:04.620 that matches with our TEKS. What I've heard so much is that teachers are doing artsy 01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:11.260 craftsy lessons and not really tying in with our TEKS or the research. And I would just 01:17:11.260 --> 01:17:15.260 like to be able to look at these to verify that that's not the case with these. 01:17:15.260 --> 01:17:23.269 That they're good, solid lesson plans. - Yes, Miss Perz? - Part of our discussion yesterday included 01:17:23.269 --> 01:17:29.239 not only the cost of this special project, which right now I believe, is eight million 01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.520 dollars. But we also talked about how many special projects are going on at the agency 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.870 right now, and we believe they're about eighty five 01:17:35.895 --> 01:17:38.070 And so, while we're talking about the 01:17:38.070 --> 01:17:40.032 cost of each one of these things, and while 01:17:40.057 --> 01:17:42.039 they may sound great, we don't actually know 01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:44.795 that they're great. What we know is the presentation 01:17:44.820 --> 01:17:47.239 that we receive in. Of course, when the agency 01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:52.249 presents their own information, it sounds fantastic. So what I would like to see is 01:17:52.249 --> 01:17:54.718 a list of all of these special projects and 01:17:54.743 --> 01:17:57.130 the cost each one, so we can evaluate prior 01:17:57.130 --> 01:18:01.019 to ratification of each of these projects, that they are actually good and that they're 01:18:01.019 --> 01:18:04.869 worth the amount of money we're spending. It sounds like each project is between eight 01:18:04.869 --> 01:18:09.329 to ten million dollars. You multiply that times eighty five. We're looking at a billion 01:18:09.329 --> 01:18:11.479 dollars going to special projects and not to 01:18:11.504 --> 01:18:13.820 classrooms. And so I'd like to see an evaluation 01:18:13.820 --> 01:18:24.030 of all of that material. - Mr. Rowley? I'll speak to the issue that's before 01:18:24.030 --> 01:18:28.048 the board, which is these lesson plans and the 01:18:28.073 --> 01:18:31.639 processes that went through, that has been 01:18:31.639 --> 01:18:34.526 gone through to arrive at them, and hopefully 01:18:34.551 --> 01:18:37.220 Blair can speak to that as well, certainly 01:18:37.220 --> 01:18:44.830 more eloquently than I can. But I was very impressed by the level of participation on 01:18:44.830 --> 01:18:48.130 the part of teachers and experts, the observation 01:18:48.155 --> 01:18:51.100 that takes place with regard to these lesson 01:18:51.100 --> 01:18:55.438 plans and the means by which they're implemented. 01:18:55.463 --> 01:18:59.429 I mean, this is to borrow a a more infamous 01:18:59.429 --> 01:19:06.929 situation, C-scope on steroids. But it is in a transparent, open environment. 01:19:06.929 --> 01:19:16.420 It's peer reviewed. The observation of the teacher's teaching tt is videotaped. There 01:19:16.420 --> 01:19:19.554 is a a rubric by which they're being checked 01:19:19.579 --> 01:19:22.619 to make sure that all of the components are 01:19:22.619 --> 01:19:25.719 necessary for these to be quality lesson plans. 01:19:25.744 --> 01:19:28.690 And so I voted in favor of it. And I feel like 01:19:28.690 --> 01:19:31.543 that whether how much money's been spent, it's 01:19:31.568 --> 01:19:34.639 already been spent. The problem is, if we deny, if 01:19:34.639 --> 01:19:37.285 we vote against this motion today, what happens 01:19:37.310 --> 01:19:39.710 is they have to pull all those lesson plans 01:19:39.710 --> 01:19:42.052 down, and the teachers will not be able to 01:19:42.077 --> 01:19:44.449 use them between now and the end of the year 01:19:44.449 --> 01:19:47.128 and the time and during which the instruction 01:19:47.153 --> 01:19:49.690 is taking place. And so I voted in favor of 01:19:49.690 --> 01:19:53.630 it. Granted, I don't know where the money is well spent or not. That's really not 01:19:53.630 --> 01:19:59.010 my call because its agency funds, not ours. And so I felt like that we should go 01:19:59.010 --> 01:20:00.686 ahead and allow these teachers to make the 01:20:00.711 --> 01:20:02.400 determination as to whether or not they want 01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:04.473 to use these lesson plans. They can if they 01:20:04.498 --> 01:20:06.499 want to. They don't have to if they don't want 01:20:06.499 --> 01:20:09.031 to, but it's certainly a resource that's available 01:20:09.056 --> 01:20:11.309 to them, and I wasn't ready to pull them down 01:20:11.309 --> 01:20:16.969 off of the Texas Gateway on the basis of maybe too much money was spent. So that's why 01:20:16.969 --> 01:20:25.960 - Blair just handed you a rubric. This is the rubric that they use. 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:29.600 So if you have any questions about what they 01:20:29.625 --> 01:20:33.239 evaluate the teacher presenters on, you have 01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:36.107 in your hands the rubric that will answer some 01:20:36.132 --> 01:20:38.670 of those questions hopefully. And I agree 01:20:38.670 --> 01:20:46.820 with my colleague from Amarillo, this program is already up and running. Basically 01:20:46.820 --> 01:20:49.625 what we needed to approve was just the new set 01:20:49.650 --> 01:20:52.430 of lesson plans. It's not that we're approving 01:20:52.429 --> 01:20:59.050 the program. We're just approving the new set of lesson plans, and they are in your 01:20:59.050 --> 01:21:05.170 minutes packet from today. If you want to look at the new ones, that'll give you kind 01:21:05.170 --> 01:21:09.840 of an idea of some of the things that they're 01:21:09.865 --> 01:21:14.510 working on right now. - Madam Chair, if I could 01:21:14.510 --> 01:21:21.670 add that the board did approve, has already ratified a set of lessons. So this is the 01:21:21.670 --> 01:21:24.050 second time that this information would come 01:21:24.075 --> 01:21:26.429 to the board. And it's my understanding that 01:21:26.429 --> 01:21:29.510 it's the Commissioner's intent that they continue 01:21:29.535 --> 01:21:32.159 to come to the board. We're thinking it'll 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.467 probably be at least twice a year. 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.127 I would also just, for my purposes, like to get a 01:21:44.219 --> 01:21:47.817 list, the one Georgina was referring to. If 01:21:47.842 --> 01:21:51.579 he's got other projects in the pipeline, they 01:21:51.579 --> 01:21:54.315 can email us a list of what what they consist 01:21:54.340 --> 01:21:56.940 of. I'd like to know. She mentioned the number 01:21:56.940 --> 01:22:01.910 of eighty five potential special projects in the pipeline. I'd like to know what they 01:22:01.910 --> 01:22:08.139 are if possible - So we're certainly happy to get that information for you. I believe what's 01:22:08.139 --> 01:22:11.959 being referred to you are Commissioner's Iinitiatives 01:22:11.984 --> 01:22:14.930 that I believe, most of which, would not 01:22:14.930 --> 01:22:18.146 have a connection to the State Board's authority. 01:22:18.171 --> 01:22:21.170 Anything that does have a connection, I think, 01:22:21.170 --> 01:22:27.040 the Commissioner has made every effort to ensure that you are not only informed, but 01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:29.744 that you have an opportunity to be involved 01:22:29.769 --> 01:22:32.510 in those processes. And that's the case with 01:22:32.510 --> 01:22:35.604 these lessons. This is a project that was 01:22:35.629 --> 01:22:39.139 authorized through a rider by the Legislature. 01:22:39.139 --> 01:22:43.510 The Commissioner felt that it was important that this information come before you, even 01:22:43.510 --> 01:22:46.240 though it's under his authority and not yours. 01:22:46.265 --> 01:22:49.030 That's why you're seeing some of this. 01:22:49.030 --> 01:22:52.288 Much of the rest of that list, I believe, would 01:22:52.313 --> 01:22:55.070 not be related to the board's authority. 01:22:55.070 --> 01:22:59.287 But I'm happy to get what information exists and pass that on. 01:22:59.312 --> 01:23:00.760 - Thank you, Monica. 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.739 Again, I just ask because I know yesterday we had, yesterday or day before yesterday, 01:23:05.739 --> 01:23:10.360 we had the conversation and some of these monies were coming out of IMA. So if I know 01:23:10.360 --> 01:23:15.820 where some of these, I know it's not this one, I know it's not this one. But if there 01:23:15.820 --> 01:23:18.943 is eighty five others... - There are not any others 01:23:18.968 --> 01:23:21.740 that are coming out of the IMA. Other than what 01:23:21.740 --> 01:23:27.469 you heard about the other day. - Okay, but you'll provide us a list... - I will ask for 01:23:27.469 --> 01:23:30.913 a list. I am not the owner of that list. And 01:23:30.938 --> 01:23:34.280 so I will ask for that information and make 01:23:34.280 --> 01:23:39.449 sure somebody gets set to you. - Madam Chair, will you let them know that we're interested 01:23:39.449 --> 01:23:47.670 in that list? Well, she's not the owner, so I'm directing my question now to you. 01:23:47.670 --> 01:23:51.558 These things come a lot quicker if Madam Chair asks. 01:23:51.583 --> 01:23:54.199 - Mr Cortez, I will pass your request 01:23:54.199 --> 01:24:00.010 along. I certainly hope that by saying, I'm not the owner, I was implying that we would 01:24:00.010 --> 01:24:04.749 not get you the information. I just wanted to make sure that you knew that I don't have 01:24:04.749 --> 01:24:08.603 it in my possession, so I will have to make that request. 01:24:08.628 --> 01:24:10.929 - And members I just wanna remind 01:24:10.929 --> 01:24:14.039 us that our Texas Long Range Plan for Public 01:24:14.064 --> 01:24:17.219 Education. That is one of the recommendations 01:24:17.219 --> 01:24:22.530 that we had that the Commissioner continued to, the state be able to provide resource 01:24:22.530 --> 01:24:25.586 that are free or very low cost for educators. 01:24:25.611 --> 01:24:28.510 Because, as you know, we have so many rural 01:24:28.510 --> 01:24:32.126 districts. And those rural districts, you know, 01:24:32.151 --> 01:24:35.139 a lot of those have a teacher who is the 01:24:35.139 --> 01:24:38.269 English department. And for that person to try 01:24:38.294 --> 01:24:41.199 to develop all the lesson plans and studies 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:46.550 that they would like to be able to do for the various grades and that they might be 01:24:46.550 --> 01:24:48.855 teaching is a pretty, pretty tough call. 01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.610 And so the fact that the Commissioner is working 01:24:51.610 --> 01:24:59.030 super hard, I think, on providing free and low cost resource, is something that is 01:24:59.030 --> 01:25:01.274 in alignment with long range plan for public 01:25:01.299 --> 01:25:03.469 education. So this is one of those resources 01:25:03.469 --> 01:25:08.110 and I just want to correct something, just less there's a misunderstanding. This is 01:25:08.110 --> 01:25:15.449 nothing like C-Scope. - I just meant it's the mechanism by which teachers can 01:25:15.449 --> 01:25:23.760 access lesson plans. That's the point. And done so in a transparent and quality way. 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:32.840 - Yeah, yeah. This is this is nothing at all. This whole... (off-mic crosstalk) 01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:37.245 Yeah. Anyway, this is again, the agency's attempt 01:25:37.270 --> 01:25:41.380 to, the Commissioner's attempt to try to provide quality 01:25:41.380 --> 01:25:44.208 resources for teachers that they don't have to pay to get. 01:25:44.233 --> 01:25:46.989 Any other questions or comments? Yes, Miss Melton-Malone? 01:25:46.989 --> 01:25:53.030 - I was just going to comment that, if when I was teaching, if this had 01:25:53.030 --> 01:26:00.389 been available, I would have loved to have this to help me get things pull together. 01:26:00.389 --> 01:26:03.364 So I think it's very great. I really do. I have 01:26:03.389 --> 01:26:06.030 seen some of the lessons, and I think it's 01:26:06.030 --> 01:26:17.025 going to be a very, very beneficial thing to classroom teachers. (microphone cuts off) 01:26:17.050 --> 01:26:20.690 All those in favor 01:26:20.690 --> 01:26:24.806 of ratifying the second set of Texas Lesson 01:26:24.831 --> 01:26:29.110 Study Resources as presented in Attachment A. 01:26:29.110 --> 01:26:38.579 Okay, all those in favor say aye, all those opposed say no. The motion is adopted. 01:26:38.579 --> 01:26:42.630 Madam Chair, that's the end of the Committee on Instruction minutes. Thank you. 01:26:42.655 --> 01:26:43.980 Absolutely. 01:26:43.980 --> 01:26:49.659 And we had no items, all the items on the Permanent School Fund Committee were moved 01:26:49.659 --> 01:26:54.020 to Consent Calander. But I wanted Mr Maynard 01:26:54.045 --> 01:26:58.381 to bring up that one you wanted to highlight for us. 01:26:58.380 --> 01:27:04.699 Well, actually, there's just a few quick ones I wanted to kind of 01:27:04.699 --> 01:27:09.335 run through. If it's okay, and right, everything 01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:13.119 was on the on the Consent Agenda. Board 01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:22.610 Members, we did the emerging market debt class, and what that is, 01:27:22.610 --> 01:27:25.719 is that that particular asset class is, are 01:27:25.744 --> 01:27:28.969 essentially bonds issued by other governments 01:27:28.969 --> 01:27:32.768 other than our own. We did terminate one of 01:27:32.793 --> 01:27:36.480 our former managers. If we do have managers 01:27:36.480 --> 01:27:42.329 who are underperforming, we do we do terminate their contracts, and we 01:27:42.329 --> 01:27:44.769 did that in that particular asset area. We had 01:27:44.794 --> 01:27:46.949 three managers, and we're going to reduce 01:27:46.949 --> 01:27:53.929 that to two. The other thing that that could do for us is that, when we reallocate 01:27:53.929 --> 01:27:58.309 those investments in those other two, that could possibly give us additional leverage 01:27:58.309 --> 01:28:03.530 in terms of negotiating lower fees. And I know that we've heard lots of things about 01:28:03.530 --> 01:28:06.300 fee, about fee structures and such. Secondly, 01:28:06.325 --> 01:28:09.070 is, is that you noticed on the Consent Agenda 01:28:09.070 --> 01:28:12.095 that there was a notation in there about the 01:28:12.120 --> 01:28:15.119 real estate policy. As we begin to diversify 01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:23.570 the portfolio. When we added a real estate, the board had made it a practice and policy 01:28:23.570 --> 01:28:26.364 that, every time that a real estate investment 01:28:26.389 --> 01:28:28.920 was made, that they would come back before 01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:34.730 the committee. That was not consistent with any other asset classes. For instance, you 01:28:34.730 --> 01:28:41.880 know we don't approve every equity purchase. We don't approve every bond purchase, but 01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:46.719 we had been doing that with real estate. And there were several reasons for that. 01:28:46.719 --> 01:28:49.273 The problem is is that that how that was being 01:28:49.298 --> 01:28:51.719 done was actually an impediment to the staff 01:28:51.719 --> 01:28:54.117 in terms of timing, you know, sometimes is 01:28:54.142 --> 01:28:56.739 that, when these these funds become available, 01:28:56.739 --> 01:29:02.100 that they actually have a fairly tight window in terms of being able to do that. And so 01:29:02.100 --> 01:29:07.480 we did amend that to essentially delegate that to the staff with them reporting back, 01:29:07.480 --> 01:29:12.809 which actually makes that more consistent with the other asset classes. We had 01:29:12.809 --> 01:29:19.340 a big discussion about risk parity and risk parity is one of those asset classes that 01:29:19.340 --> 01:29:24.320 when you look at it, it doesn't look very exciting, particularly when we've been in 01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:26.741 the midst of a ten year bull market. Understand 01:29:26.766 --> 01:29:29.010 that risk parity is actually not really 01:29:29.010 --> 01:29:34.970 an asset class. It's really a strategy. And it is essentially another portfolio with a 01:29:34.970 --> 01:29:38.330 mix of of equities and bonds and commodities 01:29:38.355 --> 01:29:41.690 and other things. We did have a, we had 01:29:41.690 --> 01:29:48.749 a couple of our managers appear before the committee. When you when you look at that 01:29:48.749 --> 01:29:51.693 in terms of, since inception, we're not losing 01:29:51.718 --> 01:29:54.449 money on that unless you want to talk about 01:29:54.449 --> 01:30:00.079 opportunity cost. Now, the thing about that is understand that those assets they they 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.383 perform differently, generally, in a correction 01:30:03.408 --> 01:30:06.550 or a downturn. That's why we have them. Those 01:30:06.550 --> 01:30:12.760 are defensive strategies, but the other, the other conversation is possibly that we 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:21.239 could perhaps manage that in house, is that, in essence, that all of those 01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:23.993 assets that are being managed by those managers 01:30:24.018 --> 01:30:26.690 could possibly be done in house. And so that's 01:30:26.690 --> 01:30:29.478 a discussion that we're gonna have in June. The 01:30:29.503 --> 01:30:32.150 state auditor did appear before the committee 01:30:32.150 --> 01:30:35.402 and gave his report on the Permanent School Fund. 01:30:35.427 --> 01:30:38.199 I'm proud to say, had any clean audit. And 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:49.110 so those are just a few of the items from our committee. Anything else? 01:30:49.110 --> 01:30:53.704 - Question for Mr Maynard. Do you think that going forward 01:30:53.729 --> 01:30:57.641 is there a way that we could, and we want 01:30:57.641 --> 01:31:03.989 to do this responsibly, of course, increase the distributions from the 01:31:03.989 --> 01:31:07.059 PSF to the IMA? 01:31:07.084 --> 01:31:16.269 - So that's a, well, I think, I think that is the question. You know, certainly 01:31:16.269 --> 01:31:21.068 that's in terms, I think our real challenge, 01:31:21.093 --> 01:31:25.761 Mr. Robinson, is that, is howto had to grow 01:31:25.761 --> 01:31:30.271 the fund. If you increase distributions today 01:31:30.296 --> 01:31:34.780 that you potentially compromise distributions 01:31:34.780 --> 01:31:41.250 in the future, so you know that is always the challenge for any sort of endowment. Is 01:31:41.250 --> 01:31:47.250 that okay? You know, how do you balance the needs of today with needs of tomorrow? And 01:31:47.250 --> 01:31:52.460 so you have to make distributions today while at the same time growing the fund. And in 01:31:52.460 --> 01:31:54.285 the course of doing that, we also not only 01:31:54.310 --> 01:31:56.280 have to grow the fund, we also have to protect 01:31:56.280 --> 01:32:02.590 the fund against erosion for an inevitable market downturn, which, you know, we haven't 01:32:02.590 --> 01:32:06.880 had one in the last ten years. But if you look at the previous ten years, we had to 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:14.210 really big ones. That significantly eroded the value of not only our fund, but 01:32:14.210 --> 01:32:17.908 a lot of other ones. And so, you know, when 01:32:17.933 --> 01:32:21.690 you look at things like 01:32:21.690 --> 01:32:28.449 fixed income, bonds, we look at things like hedge funds, risk parity and some of those 01:32:28.449 --> 01:32:32.873 things. Everybody has those in their portfolio. 01:32:32.898 --> 01:32:36.929 The PUFF has that in the portfolio. TRS has those, ERS, 01:32:36.929 --> 01:32:42.369 they all have those things and you have to do this just all 01:32:42.369 --> 01:32:45.093 part of the mix and part of the strategy. 01:32:45.118 --> 01:32:48.400 I think that we'd get a lot of pressure sometimes. 01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:52.820 When people look at that and say, well, you know, when you compare that to a 01:32:52.820 --> 01:32:55.265 standard sixty-forty portfolio, they're really 01:32:55.290 --> 01:32:57.710 underperforming, yeah, But one of these days 01:32:57.709 --> 01:33:02.380 you're going to be really glad that you had that there. So that's a long way of saying 01:33:02.380 --> 01:33:12.559 well, you know, maybe, but I think that, you know, I always kind of go back to some 01:33:12.559 --> 01:33:14.849 of the history. And I know people kind of get 01:33:14.874 --> 01:33:16.989 weary of me kind of talking about history. 01:33:16.989 --> 01:33:20.378 But I think it's important because it provides 01:33:20.403 --> 01:33:23.840 some some context. And I would remind everybody 01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:28.830 that you know that there were fifty states in the United States that had a school and 01:33:28.830 --> 01:33:36.489 fund, had a school and trust. You know, many school and trust exist today? Twenty. 01:33:36.489 --> 01:33:40.780 There's a lesson in that. And that is, is that the appropriators could 01:33:40.780 --> 01:33:44.243 never be in charge of the trust fund because 01:33:44.268 --> 01:33:47.860 appropriators are driven by the immediate. 01:33:47.860 --> 01:33:51.075 They are concerned about meeting the current 01:33:51.100 --> 01:33:54.290 budget need in the current budget cycle, and 01:33:54.290 --> 01:33:57.873 as a result of that, thirty of the fifty have 01:33:57.898 --> 01:34:01.690 been squandered over time. And so there's always 01:34:01.690 --> 01:34:05.112 going to be pressure on these funds to cough up 01:34:05.137 --> 01:34:08.320 more money because that's what appropriators 01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:12.615 do. They're trying to meet a budget today. 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:17.209 But sometimes when you do that, you sacrifice 01:34:17.209 --> 01:34:19.890 things in the future, and you know you twenty 01:34:19.915 --> 01:34:22.570 years from now it's like, why did we let that 01:34:22.570 --> 01:34:24.829 happen? Well, because because the appropriators 01:34:24.854 --> 01:34:26.900 at the time put pressure on the fund because 01:34:26.900 --> 01:34:30.379 they wanted to meet the immediate needs. And 01:34:30.404 --> 01:34:33.780 so it's not an easy question. And sometimes 01:34:33.780 --> 01:34:37.036 the answers that we have are not very satisfying 01:34:37.061 --> 01:34:40.159 to those in the governor's office and those in 01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:44.016 the Legislature. But those are very old questions 01:34:44.041 --> 01:34:47.719 related to the to the management of endowments. 01:34:47.719 --> 01:34:50.052 Yes, Doctor Robinson. 01:34:50.077 --> 01:34:57.050 - And can you speak to the point? You know more about this than I do, about the extent 01:34:57.050 --> 01:35:00.690 to which the PSF is the backing for ISD bonds 01:35:00.715 --> 01:35:04.330 and charter and how that affects the interest rates 01:35:04.329 --> 01:35:10.829 - Absolutely. And of course, the question is is that, well, you know, one 01:35:10.829 --> 01:35:13.728 of things we do have to have in the portfolio is 01:35:13.753 --> 01:35:16.449 we have to have a certain amount of liquidity 01:35:16.449 --> 01:35:20.055 as relates to our bond rating. You know what 01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:23.420 is that exactly? Well, it's hard to really 01:35:23.420 --> 01:35:27.024 pin down, but certainly the rating agencies like 01:35:27.049 --> 01:35:30.260 Moody's, you know, look at that, but one of 01:35:30.260 --> 01:35:33.625 the things we have to do we have to balance the 01:35:33.650 --> 01:35:36.780 portfolio to to meet our bond rating because 01:35:36.780 --> 01:35:42.249 our bond rating enables us to guarantee the bonds of local school districts and charter 01:35:42.249 --> 01:35:45.960 schools. Currently, we are the guarantee on 01:35:45.985 --> 01:35:49.671 about eighty billion dollars worth of ISD 01:35:49.670 --> 01:35:52.658 and charter school bonds. We have the capacity 01:35:52.683 --> 01:35:55.519 to do one hundred seventeen billion by IRS 01:35:55.519 --> 01:36:01.619 rules. So I think we still have have some capacity, but that, you know, that is one 01:36:01.619 --> 01:36:08.349 of those things is hard to, you talk about distributions, what is hard to quantify is 01:36:08.349 --> 01:36:11.828 are savings. But if we save school districts 01:36:11.853 --> 01:36:15.539 money, it's like giving 'em money, kind of. And 01:36:15.539 --> 01:36:19.570 and what that does is that, you know, we're saving school districts about two hundred 01:36:19.570 --> 01:36:26.189 million dollars a year in interest costs, which enables them to put that money into 01:36:26.189 --> 01:36:30.483 the project rather than paying off the financiers. 01:36:30.508 --> 01:36:34.020 It's my understanding that there are some 01:36:34.020 --> 01:36:37.479 people in state government that think that 01:36:37.504 --> 01:36:41.179 perhaps that that's making building too easy, 01:36:41.179 --> 01:36:43.161 and I understand that in terms of bonds and 01:36:43.186 --> 01:36:45.189 things like that, there are a few bad actors 01:36:45.189 --> 01:36:47.370 out there. We read about them in the newspaper 01:36:47.395 --> 01:36:49.690 that, by and large, that I think school districts 01:36:49.690 --> 01:36:53.370 are being very responsible, particularly rural 01:36:53.395 --> 01:36:56.659 school districts. And I deeply resent the 01:36:56.659 --> 01:37:00.414 notion in the statements made by certain individuals 01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:03.460 up the street, that the bond guarantee 01:37:03.460 --> 01:37:06.160 program has has made our school district irresponsible. 01:37:06.185 --> 01:37:08.610 I don't think that's the case at all. 01:37:09.485 --> 01:37:11.485 - Mr. Mercer? 01:37:12.610 --> 01:37:14.917 It's a quick tie on. Mr Maynard, great comments. 01:37:14.942 --> 01:37:17.459 Thank you so much. At the time, the word appropriate, 01:37:17.459 --> 01:37:20.516 and you mentioned, precisely, the thirty states 01:37:20.541 --> 01:37:23.190 the appropriators who are more of a short term 01:37:23.190 --> 01:37:25.345 focus. Instead of, we are in a generational long 01:37:25.370 --> 01:37:27.369 term focus, how they, think you used the word 01:37:27.369 --> 01:37:32.530 a lot, squandered the funds, which means now they had no funds for their children. 01:37:32.530 --> 01:37:35.025 They chose money. I remember that word because 01:37:35.050 --> 01:37:37.360 we've often times bemoaned or lamented with 01:37:37.360 --> 01:37:39.205 across the street's saying, You don't give us 01:37:39.230 --> 01:37:40.969 credit, The State Board of Education. In my 01:37:40.969 --> 01:37:44.249 time, we've given already twelve billion dollars 01:37:44.274 --> 01:37:47.329 of tax free money for education tools for our 01:37:47.329 --> 01:37:51.479 kids. Mr. Maynard knows that. And when I asked them, why you don't you ever give us 01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:53.626 credit. And Mr Maynard, you're gonna like this. 01:37:53.651 --> 01:37:55.639 They say, Well, yeah, but we're the ones who 01:37:55.639 --> 01:38:01.822 appropriate the money. How about that. The appropriators. 01:38:01.847 --> 01:38:05.340 Have a good day, sir. Thank you. 01:38:05.340 --> 01:38:09.277 - And just for, to be clear, I mean, I think it's always 01:38:09.302 --> 01:38:13.070 incumbent upon us as the board being the fiduciaries 01:38:13.070 --> 01:38:15.814 of the fund, on the investment side, the major 01:38:15.839 --> 01:38:18.499 investment side, to always look at, you know, 01:38:18.499 --> 01:38:21.729 how are we distributing and are we looking at 01:38:21.754 --> 01:38:24.889 all of the things that we need to be looking 01:38:24.889 --> 01:38:28.512 at and maybe improving our processes, etcetera, 01:38:28.537 --> 01:38:31.909 that I think are pretty, have a lot of value 01:38:31.909 --> 01:38:35.113 to them. So one of the things that's been 01:38:35.138 --> 01:38:38.699 identified is, as an example, that our student 01:38:38.699 --> 01:38:45.679 growth, while it's been pretty phenomenal for many years now, the rate of the growth 01:38:45.679 --> 01:38:53.150 increase has sloped down now for a few years. So there may be an opportunity for 01:38:53.150 --> 01:38:56.355 us to release more funds for today's children, 01:38:56.380 --> 01:38:59.219 as an example, and still keep through the 01:38:59.219 --> 01:39:02.686 value of providing the same value today and 01:39:02.711 --> 01:39:06.389 tomorrow. By looking at that additional factor 01:39:06.389 --> 01:39:09.772 of slowing growth rate as to how that impacts. 01:39:09.797 --> 01:39:12.939 And so I think, you know, looking at levers 01:39:12.939 --> 01:39:16.751 like that that we can pull because this is all 01:39:16.776 --> 01:39:20.320 about making sure we are not disadvantaging 01:39:20.320 --> 01:39:23.129 any children, whether today or tomorrow. And 01:39:23.154 --> 01:39:26.000 so I think for us to kind of continually look 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.242 at our practice about the way that we we figure 01:39:29.267 --> 01:39:32.079 these things, I think is always something 01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:34.486 that the board is up for and would would want 01:39:34.511 --> 01:39:36.789 to do. So that is something that we will be 01:39:36.789 --> 01:39:41.844 looking at. I think going forward that factoring in that growth slowdown. 01:39:41.869 --> 01:39:46.280 Yes, Miss Hardy. 01:39:46.280 --> 01:39:54.159 - This might be echoing Mrs Miller, but one of the things that we've stressed, and she 01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:59.939 was the Chairman when I came on in 2002, and that is that we want as much money 01:39:59.939 --> 01:40:04.836 as possible to get into the schools from the from 01:40:04.861 --> 01:40:09.439 the allotment. And so whatever that percentage 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:12.221 is, we've always gone to the furthest extent to 01:40:12.246 --> 01:40:14.829 make sure that it would give the most amount 01:40:14.829 --> 01:40:16.561 of money. That would be, that would be my 01:40:16.586 --> 01:40:18.540 desire and, I think, the desire of everybody on 01:40:18.540 --> 01:40:22.408 this board to do that. But it's been what we 01:40:22.433 --> 01:40:26.190 worked on from from the time I've been here. 01:40:26.190 --> 01:40:32.630 - I think also it's it's very important to recognize that over the last decade what 01:40:32.630 --> 01:40:35.770 we have distributed, we've distributed about, 01:40:35.795 --> 01:40:38.980 from the Permanent School Fund that the board 01:40:38.980 --> 01:40:42.444 manages, about three point...was it seven nine? 01:40:42.469 --> 01:40:45.619 Did they tell us the other day in Holland's 01:40:45.619 --> 01:40:51.060 office? Three point seven nine percent, just from the SBOE portion over the last ten 01:40:51.060 --> 01:40:59.989 years, and the earnings off of the fund have been, like, six point seven seven percent. 01:40:59.989 --> 01:41:02.260 You know, I sent you all a notice about what 01:41:02.285 --> 01:41:04.380 we've done over the last decade. Depending 01:41:04.380 --> 01:41:08.300 on when you're looking at a June statement or if you're looking in August statement, 01:41:08.300 --> 01:41:10.594 I mean varies depending on when your your fiscal, 01:41:10.619 --> 01:41:12.659 when your year ends, or when you're looking 01:41:12.659 --> 01:41:16.097 at it over ten years. But in that general 01:41:16.122 --> 01:41:19.780 range. And so what we've distributed has been 01:41:19.780 --> 01:41:23.545 everything that we've sent over minus needing 01:41:23.570 --> 01:41:26.989 the fund to continue to grow to 01:41:26.989 --> 01:41:30.050 provide the same value of assets by inflation and 01:41:30.075 --> 01:41:32.989 student population growth. So we've distributed 01:41:32.989 --> 01:41:35.877 everything else. So for averages, three point 01:41:35.902 --> 01:41:38.639 seven seven percent, and the fund has grown 01:41:38.639 --> 01:41:42.677 six point, um, four four. So I don't remember 01:41:42.702 --> 01:41:46.540 exactly what the number is now, off the top 01:41:46.540 --> 01:41:49.569 of my head, but we've distributed what we have 01:41:49.594 --> 01:41:52.469 been able to do minus the student population 01:41:52.469 --> 01:41:57.863 growth and the inflation rate. - Madam Chair? - Yes, Mr. Maynard. 01:41:57.888 --> 01:42:02.670 I may, just to, just as a follow up. And I 01:42:02.670 --> 01:42:05.333 would just echo what, uh, member Hardy mentioned 01:42:05.358 --> 01:42:07.561 is that, you know, we are the State Board 01:42:07.561 --> 01:42:11.035 of Education, and our sole focus is education. 01:42:11.060 --> 01:42:14.139 Which, by the way, is the reason that the 01:42:14.139 --> 01:42:16.722 framers of the current constitution placed the 01:42:16.747 --> 01:42:19.360 fund in the care of the State Board of Education. 01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:23.019 The State Board of Education in 1876 was markedly different than what it is 01:42:23.019 --> 01:42:25.802 today. But at the end of the day, it says that 01:42:25.827 --> 01:42:28.349 this is not about, you know, nothing about 01:42:28.349 --> 01:42:34.110 turf or egos or our future political ambitions. The only thing that we want to 01:42:34.110 --> 01:42:39.360 do is we want to grow the fund. But we also want to distribute as much money as we 01:42:39.360 --> 01:42:42.345 possibly can without compromising future earnings 01:42:42.370 --> 01:42:45.150 and future distributions. And that's are, that's 01:42:45.150 --> 01:42:50.579 what we want to do. If we can find a way, if we can find a way to do that 01:42:50.579 --> 01:42:53.916 that is prudent, that we think that could make 01:42:53.941 --> 01:42:57.040 work, we will do that. We will certainly do 01:42:57.040 --> 01:42:59.777 that. And if there's a wrinkle that we haven't 01:42:59.802 --> 01:43:02.340 considered, and we will consider it, and if 01:43:02.340 --> 01:43:07.724 there's a way to do it, we will. 01:43:07.749 --> 01:43:12.989 - Any other comments or questions about that? All right? 01:43:12.989 --> 01:43:15.087 And I believe the Committee on School Initiatives 01:43:15.112 --> 01:43:16.849 didn't have anything either for us. But I 01:43:16.849 --> 01:43:21.659 think you have some updates. - Yeah, no, we don't. But I do, or we don't have an action 01:43:21.659 --> 01:43:23.712 item. But I would like to point out that the 01:43:23.737 --> 01:43:25.719 charter school interviews to which you were 01:43:25.719 --> 01:43:32.209 all invited will be May 20, 21, and 22. Possibly. There are 01:43:32.209 --> 01:43:34.267 ten candidates for charter applications that 01:43:34.292 --> 01:43:36.280 are still in the running, but they're about 01:43:36.280 --> 01:43:39.359 to go through another review. So we don't know how 01:43:39.384 --> 01:43:42.130 many will be put forward by the Commissioner 01:43:42.130 --> 01:43:45.624 for our veto vote. But I would encourage those 01:43:45.649 --> 01:43:48.820 of you that can to come to the interviews. 01:43:48.820 --> 01:43:52.629 They're very, very informative. I know Mr Cortez 01:43:52.654 --> 01:43:56.050 is typically there. You can watch online if 01:43:56.050 --> 01:44:02.179 you meet to. I know Dr. Ellis is famous for doing that, and but it really does help 01:44:02.179 --> 01:44:07.019 to be there, and it's very encouraging to meet the candidates face to face. So I wanted 01:44:07.019 --> 01:44:09.204 to give you an update about that. One last 01:44:09.229 --> 01:44:11.541 thing that staff gave us, they're doing these 01:44:11.541 --> 01:44:18.719 really cool dashboard documents that are in color, which is helpful, and so these are 01:44:18.719 --> 01:44:20.990 the ten schools that are still in the running 01:44:21.015 --> 01:44:23.360 and course, these will be narrowed down. Maybe, 01:44:23.360 --> 01:44:26.007 possibly, I don't know, but it's kind of cool 01:44:26.032 --> 01:44:28.539 to see the impact area. So there's a little 01:44:28.539 --> 01:44:31.503 map and you can come look at mine or any of 01:44:31.528 --> 01:44:34.400 the Committee on School Initiative members. 01:44:34.400 --> 01:44:38.550 I would have assume still have these. It talks about enrollment projections. So 01:44:38.550 --> 01:44:40.819 a lot of the data that we will need at the, 01:44:40.844 --> 01:44:43.139 if you choose to come to the interviewer, on 01:44:43.139 --> 01:44:46.896 these little colorful sheets, which I think is pretty cool. 01:44:46.921 --> 01:44:50.739 - (inaudible speech off-mic) - Yeah, we don't know if it'll 01:44:50.739 --> 01:44:54.459 be all three, they reserved three days for interviews, but we don't know if it'll be 01:44:54.459 --> 01:44:57.359 one, two or three of those days. Based on, - Is it here in Austin? 01:44:57.384 --> 01:44:58.890 - It's here in this room. 01:44:58.915 --> 01:45:04.083 - Madam Chair? Could we be sent that information? By staff? 01:45:04.959 --> 01:45:07.429 - I think so, yeah. Debbie, could you ask Heather 01:45:07.454 --> 01:45:09.750 to send this out. But remember, you know, this 01:45:09.750 --> 01:45:12.383 could be whittled down. I don't know, but this is just still whose 01:45:12.408 --> 01:45:15.159 - That sounds like helpful information to me. 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:20.871 Yes. I like the colors. - Anything else? Yes, Mr. Cortez? 01:45:20.896 --> 01:45:24.190 And just on the Charter interviews, if you can't make 01:45:24.190 --> 01:45:26.720 make it and you are listening and some of 01:45:26.745 --> 01:45:29.309 us are here, text us your questions and we can 01:45:29.309 --> 01:45:31.935 one of us, whoever's here, will be happy to 01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:34.800 ask. I know I've had members text me questions. 01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:37.266 Andi I've asked because they're listening 01:45:37.291 --> 01:45:39.909 from from at home or at work or wherever they 01:45:39.909 --> 01:45:43.613 are. That way it'll speed up the process when 01:45:43.638 --> 01:45:47.400 we actually take action. - Just one more thing. 01:45:47.400 --> 01:45:54.360 You did get a copy of the charter amendments. Mr Cortez had requested that. And I think 01:45:54.360 --> 01:45:57.430 we'll be getting these, I think, at every meeting. 01:45:57.455 --> 01:46:00.139 And so there are, a document that was in your 01:46:00.139 --> 01:46:02.702 box. I think Heather put them in there on 01:46:02.727 --> 01:46:05.449 Wednesday. And so, just to keep track of kind 01:46:05.449 --> 01:46:13.139 of growth and expansion and all that sort of thing with charters. - (inaudible speech off-mic) 01:46:13.139 --> 01:46:15.696 Following up on Mr. Cortez's point, when I did participate, 01:46:15.721 --> 01:46:17.869 there's there's an hour and a half limit that they 01:46:17.869 --> 01:46:20.605 keep that and they keep a very strict timeline 01:46:20.630 --> 01:46:23.340 to that. And after the the Charter gives their 01:46:23.340 --> 01:46:26.585 presentation and then the governance part of the 01:46:26.610 --> 01:46:29.499 staff asks their question and the financial 01:46:29.499 --> 01:46:33.420 part and the legal part. It oftentime ran out to very little time for the state board 01:46:33.420 --> 01:46:35.105 members to ask the questions. We've actually 01:46:35.130 --> 01:46:36.790 asked them to increase that from an hour and 01:46:36.790 --> 01:46:40.309 a half to two hours so that we at the end of the road would actually have more times 01:46:40.309 --> 01:46:44.820 for questions if needed. And staff is considering how many they're gonna have, 01:46:44.820 --> 01:46:47.248 what days will fit in and if they can possibly 01:46:47.273 --> 01:46:49.469 do that also. Yeah, that's a good 01:46:49.469 --> 01:46:54.769 call. You know, staff has got very targeted because they've got groups looking at these 01:46:54.769 --> 01:46:57.126 things in a very targeted way, especially the 01:46:57.151 --> 01:46:59.380 financial area. And we don't want to finish 01:46:59.380 --> 01:47:01.337 an interview when they didn't get their questions 01:47:01.362 --> 01:47:02.980 answered. And we didn't get our questions 01:47:02.980 --> 01:47:07.805 either, so I think you know, that's very that's 01:47:07.830 --> 01:47:12.429 a good call. That's great. Any other? Oh yes. 01:47:12.429 --> 01:47:14.132 Miss Perez. Sorry. 01:47:14.157 --> 01:47:19.240 - In addition to receiving these via hard copy, can I get them, not only 01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:22.630 digitally, but if you could email me the link 01:47:22.655 --> 01:47:25.800 of where this is posted online, so that in 01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:28.826 addition to the very minimal impact statement 01:47:28.851 --> 01:47:32.050 that is of no value to districts and communities 01:47:32.050 --> 01:47:35.083 where these expansions go, that they at least 01:47:35.108 --> 01:47:38.050 have some kind of advance notice to the very 01:47:38.050 --> 01:47:45.407 minimal public input that's allowed. - Any other on 01:47:45.432 --> 01:47:52.340 that issue. Okay, great. Thank you, Mrs. Cargill. 01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:56.719 And just in, kind of, wrapping up the agenda for today, 01:47:56.719 --> 01:47:59.469 I wanted to announce the membership of the ad 01:47:59.494 --> 01:48:02.219 hoc committee. This is, just to be clear, 01:48:02.219 --> 01:48:07.139 this is an advisory committee only. There is no decision making that will be made by 01:48:07.139 --> 01:48:10.214 these members who are just assigned homework. 01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:13.690 Basically, that's what we're giving them, homework. 01:48:13.690 --> 01:48:20.139 To work with the Commissioner who's reached out to the Board of Educationto try to 01:48:20.139 --> 01:48:25.130 get our processes working together again. At the end of the day, we're hoping that, if 01:48:25.130 --> 01:48:33.389 any decision making that needs to be coming out of those meetings, that the board 01:48:33.389 --> 01:48:36.414 would take up that at that point and we would 01:48:36.439 --> 01:48:39.439 go forward. But again, this would be helpful 01:48:39.439 --> 01:48:41.874 having this advisory committee assigned this bit 01:48:41.899 --> 01:48:44.110 of homework between now and the next meeting 01:48:44.110 --> 01:48:50.090 to work alongside the Commissioner's folks. And I wanted to announce the membership of 01:48:50.090 --> 01:48:53.517 the advisory committee. And it is Marty Rowley, 01:48:53.542 --> 01:48:56.729 who will be the Chair. Pam Little, Pat Hardy 01:48:56.729 --> 01:49:00.687 Marisa Perez-Diaz, and Barbara Cargill. And we 01:49:00.712 --> 01:49:03.266 want to think you for taking on that extra bit of 01:49:03.292 --> 01:49:06.006 homework between April and June meetings. Thank you 01:49:06.030 --> 01:49:09.292 very much. Mr. Rowley, did you want to say anything? 01:49:09.318 --> 01:49:13.281 - Yeah, just mention that we had kind of a preliminary 01:49:13.306 --> 01:49:16.753 meeting, yesterday, even though we weren't yet 01:49:16.779 --> 01:49:20.756 formed. So we'll be working with TEA staff, and also, 01:49:20.781 --> 01:49:24.585 talking with various other interested stakeholders, 01:49:24.610 --> 01:49:30.399 and we'll provide a report to this board, an advisory 01:49:30.424 --> 01:49:35.845 report only at our June meeting - Thank you for 01:49:34.171 --> 01:49:38.160 taking on that role to head up that ad hoc committee, 01:49:36.184 --> 01:49:41.881 Mr. Rowley, we really appreciate it. I'd like 01:49:41.909 --> 01:49:45.730 to inform members about the upcoming Teacher 01:49:45.755 --> 01:49:49.551 Retirement System nominations. Those of you who've been 01:49:49.550 --> 01:49:52.485 on the board, we do this every few years, and 01:49:52.510 --> 01:49:55.420 there are some open spots that will be coming 01:49:55.420 --> 01:50:00.521 up, and I believe there's a handout for all the 01:50:00.546 --> 01:50:05.090 members. And the way this works is that we 01:50:05.090 --> 01:50:07.733 nominate to the Teacher Retirement System of 01:50:07.758 --> 01:50:10.199 Texas, and then the Governor appoints from 01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:16.969 our nominations. So what I'm asking you to do is to really thoughtfully and carefully 01:50:16.969 --> 01:50:21.433 look at the qualifications and the background 01:50:21.458 --> 01:50:26.189 that enables folks to serve on such an important 01:50:26.189 --> 01:50:30.108 role on the as a trustee of the Teacher Retirement 01:50:30.133 --> 01:50:33.489 System of Texas. And so what I asked Debbie to 01:50:33.489 --> 01:50:35.726 do was to go and actually just look at the 01:50:35.751 --> 01:50:38.119 backgrounds of current trustees, just to give 01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:40.809 you a feel for the kind of background that a 01:50:40.834 --> 01:50:43.320 lot of the folks who've been serving have. 01:50:43.320 --> 01:50:46.820 And so you'd want a multiplicity of background, 01:50:46.845 --> 01:50:50.320 but obviously, this is quite an important role, 01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:56.449 and so we want to be thoughtful about who you nominate, and those nominations are due, 01:50:56.449 --> 01:51:00.147 let's see, that's not on the front. Maybe we, what? 01:51:00.172 --> 01:51:04.059 When should we want, we want them by the June meeting? 01:51:04.059 --> 01:51:06.771 Yeah, I think we want we want to get these in, by 01:51:06.796 --> 01:51:09.320 the June meeting, because we'll be discussing, 01:51:09.320 --> 01:51:12.101 it'll be an agenda item at the June meeting. 01:51:12.126 --> 01:51:15.439 So let's put, let's see, when iis June meeting. Let's 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.888 put a date on here. What was that? Mid-May? 01:51:18.913 --> 01:51:22.650 Okay, so let's just say, why don't you write on 01:51:22.650 --> 01:51:26.737 the front of that page that these are due, and 01:51:26.762 --> 01:51:30.650 then we'll have it in our updates. Yeah, the 01:51:30.650 --> 01:51:34.206 weekly updates that we get from Debbie, she'll 01:51:34.231 --> 01:51:37.989 remind us. Let's just do it, maybe the week, what 01:51:37.989 --> 01:51:47.349 is that Friday of May 13 week. What is that? 17? Okay, May 17. 01:51:47.349 --> 01:51:49.546 And that'll be plenty of time for her to assemble 01:51:49.571 --> 01:51:51.479 the papers and get ready. So make sure that 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:54.093 they send in resumes that you get full background 01:51:54.118 --> 01:51:56.550 so that your nominee, because we vote on these. 01:51:56.550 --> 01:52:01.641 Or we look at these. And typically what we do 01:52:01.666 --> 01:52:06.400 is, at least recently, we have sent all of 01:52:06.400 --> 01:52:08.382 them over and then let the Governor decide. 01:52:08.407 --> 01:52:10.409 But the more information obviously, that he, 01:52:10.409 --> 01:52:14.642 that the Governor's office has on the nominees, 01:52:14.667 --> 01:52:18.699 their resumes, etcetera, the more likely that 01:52:18.699 --> 01:52:23.706 they would be considered - (inaudible speech off-mic) 01:52:23.731 --> 01:52:28.250 - You submit it to Debbie on and then we will be... - (inaudible speech off-mic) 01:52:28.250 --> 01:52:31.322 - Yes, exactly. If you want to nominate somebody, 01:52:31.347 --> 01:52:34.209 make sure, you know, give them the best chance 01:52:34.209 --> 01:52:36.660 of being chosen by the Governor by giving good 01:52:36.685 --> 01:52:39.320 background. Yes, Miss Cargill? And then Dr. Ellis 01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:43.468 - How can we find out what the job responsibilities 01:52:43.493 --> 01:52:46.260 are? Time, commitment and all that. 01:52:46.260 --> 01:52:48.021 - I can try to get that information for you. 01:52:48.046 --> 01:52:49.659 - We've got to sell it on the people. 01:52:49.659 --> 01:52:52.983 - Well, that's a good point. You know, like, I 01:52:53.008 --> 01:52:56.519 don't even know often they meet. That is a really 01:52:56.519 --> 01:53:04.769 good point. So maybe we can just, you know, give them some idea. - (inaudible speech off-mic) 01:53:04.769 --> 01:53:05.982 Doctor Ellis? 01:53:06.007 --> 01:53:09.620 Can Staff clarify? Okay, there's two that come from nominations from us. I know 01:53:09.619 --> 01:53:11.819 one of them is currently Christopher Mosque 01:53:11.844 --> 01:53:14.170 because he's from Lufkin. But who is the other 01:53:14.170 --> 01:53:17.157 one that's coming up that we will actually be replacing. 01:53:17.182 --> 01:53:20.209 - David Corpus. His term ends at the 01:53:20.209 --> 01:53:25.959 end of August, and we have an online form, a nomination form that we'll send you that 01:53:25.959 --> 01:53:32.869 your applicant can fill out and attach his or her resume to it. And you see a copy of 01:53:32.869 --> 01:53:37.980 that in your packet. Just so you know the sort of information that will be collected. 01:53:37.980 --> 01:53:45.079 Again, that'd be May 17 when that is due to Debbie. Your nominee. And I 01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:50.559 I want to announce that, congratulations to Ken Mercer, who recently retired. The Texas 01:53:50.559 --> 01:53:53.828 House on Tuesday passed a resolution in his 01:53:53.853 --> 01:53:57.320 honor and six senators spoke from the floor to 01:53:57.320 --> 01:54:01.081 honor him that day. Congratulations. 01:54:01.106 --> 01:54:02.960 Blessed, overwhelmed and on my own terms was 01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:06.608 Thank you, I was blessed, overwhelmed, and in my own term, I was double blessed. I 01:54:06.633 --> 01:54:10.169 was shocked. Senators, Republicans and Democrats came, and it was supposed to be 01:54:10.169 --> 01:54:13.084 a, you walk by the dais and you wave and keep on 01:54:13.109 --> 01:54:15.820 walking. And you know the call it the Queen's 01:54:15.820 --> 01:54:18.230 Wave. You know what I mean? And it wasn't that, I was 01:54:18.255 --> 01:54:20.729 shocked, overwhelmed, and again, double-blessed by that. 01:54:20.729 --> 01:54:31.369 -How long have you served on the board of education? 01:54:31.369 --> 01:54:37.539 At the end of this term, what would it be? - They mentioned my financial services, 01:54:37.539 --> 01:54:39.976 which is thirty four years with USA which Army, 01:54:40.001 --> 01:54:42.209 Air Force, Navy, Marines. And then my forty 01:54:42.209 --> 01:54:47.584 years in IT. And then it'll be fourteen years when I finish in 2020. 01:54:47.609 --> 01:54:49.999 - This term. Yeah, absolutely. 01:54:49.999 --> 01:54:55.820 Well, thank you for your service, Mr Mercer. We're happy to serve with you. Also wanted 01:54:55.820 --> 01:55:02.510 to bring up kind of a legislative update because we got noticed, and I think Dr Ellis 01:55:02.510 --> 01:55:04.093 is ready with that information. 01:55:04.118 --> 01:55:07.209 - I just want to give a little bit of update. First of all, 01:55:07.209 --> 01:55:09.091 thank the board chair for all the work that 01:55:09.116 --> 01:55:11.059 she's done on this legislation that's working 01:55:11.059 --> 01:55:14.070 towards the PSF. She's done Yeoman's work to 01:55:14.095 --> 01:55:16.880 make sure that we stay on top of all that. 01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:21.139 I think everything's on the front burner right now, but there's some things 01:55:21.139 --> 01:55:23.683 that are really on the front burner. Some legislation 01:55:23.708 --> 01:55:25.709 that is pertinent to us and our colleagues 01:55:25.709 --> 01:55:27.705 at the School LandBboard that we comanage the 01:55:27.730 --> 01:55:29.570 Permanent School Fund with. So a couple that 01:55:29.570 --> 01:55:33.990 I would point out that it sounds like we'll be heard this coming up week. Number 01:55:33.990 --> 01:55:41.180 one is Senate Bill 608. And that is a Sunset legislation for the School 01:55:41.180 --> 01:55:44.021 Land Board, and that's pertinent to us because 01:55:44.046 --> 01:55:46.559 part of the recommendations that came out 01:55:46.559 --> 01:55:49.834 of Sunset was that board would move from three 01:55:49.859 --> 01:55:52.900 to five members and those two extra members 01:55:52.900 --> 01:55:55.243 would actually be appointed by the governor and 01:55:55.268 --> 01:55:57.639 attorney general. But from a list that comes 01:55:57.639 --> 01:56:02.420 from the State Board of Education. A list of members. So that that's one of the things 01:56:02.420 --> 01:56:09.519 that's pertinent in Senate Bill 608. The other one that I think, important 01:56:09.519 --> 01:56:15.360 also, and that's critical, is Senate Bill 1659 by Senator Watson, and I think 01:56:15.360 --> 01:56:18.160 that it's a bill that really works hard towards 01:56:18.185 --> 01:56:20.610 improving the governance structure of the 01:56:20.610 --> 01:56:24.367 entire PSF. It looks at the School Land Board and 01:56:24.392 --> 01:56:27.749 the State Board of Education side, and there's, 01:56:27.749 --> 01:56:30.258 that's, I think, a pretty critical piece of 01:56:30.283 --> 01:56:32.939 legislation. I would point out one other thing 01:56:32.939 --> 01:56:36.167 that happened yesterday, I guess it was, on the 01:56:36.192 --> 01:56:39.059 House side, on House Joint Resolution 151. 01:56:39.059 --> 01:56:45.260 The legislation is looking to increase the 01:56:45.260 --> 01:56:48.348 amount that can be sent directly to the available 01:56:48.373 --> 01:56:51.189 school fund from three hundred million a year 01:56:51.189 --> 01:56:56.679 to six hundred million a year, and currently that is from the School Land Board has 01:56:56.679 --> 01:56:58.897 the opportunity to do that because they have the 01:56:58.922 --> 01:57:00.889 revenue that's coming in from the royalties 01:57:00.889 --> 01:57:03.737 and this is an avenue to allow them to do that. 01:57:03.762 --> 01:57:06.229 As I mentioned some of these other bills, 01:57:06.229 --> 01:57:08.417 there's lots of different legislation out there 01:57:08.442 --> 01:57:10.650 from Senator Watson that Representative Ken King 01:57:10.650 --> 01:57:13.076 is also co-authoring, or carrying on the House side. 01:57:13.101 --> 01:57:15.273 Senator Taylor has a bill. Representative Murphy 01:57:15.273 --> 01:57:22.489 has a bill in. Something is going to happen in the revenue stream that currently 01:57:22.489 --> 01:57:25.060 is at school and board and some of these pieces 01:57:25.085 --> 01:57:27.309 of legislation could theoretically end up 01:57:27.309 --> 01:57:33.639 on our side of the fund. If that happened, there would currently be no avenue for that 01:57:33.639 --> 01:57:37.199 direct contribution to the ASF to continue. 01:57:37.224 --> 01:57:40.840 So what we asked in the testimony, to HJR151 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:46.699 was that the state Board of Education would also have the ability to give directly 01:57:46.699 --> 01:57:49.935 to the ASF if, by chance, that revenue stream 01:57:49.960 --> 01:57:53.030 from oil and gas revenues did end up on our 01:57:53.030 --> 01:57:55.726 side of the equation, that we would have an 01:57:55.751 --> 01:57:58.360 avenue to continue that distribution that's 01:57:58.360 --> 01:58:03.010 already being made by General Land Office. So that was what we consider to them. They 01:58:03.010 --> 01:58:04.686 did not make any committee substitution to 01:58:04.711 --> 01:58:06.400 that point in time, but there's still a long 01:58:06.400 --> 01:58:09.184 way for those bills to go through the process. 01:58:09.209 --> 01:58:11.790 So those are a couple of the bills that are 01:58:11.790 --> 01:58:14.973 being, like I said on the front of the front burner right now. 01:58:14.998 --> 01:58:16.489 - So I want to make sure that 01:58:16.489 --> 01:58:19.402 all the members did see the legislative update 01:58:19.427 --> 01:58:22.130 that I gave you with the opinion piece that 01:58:22.130 --> 01:58:26.659 was in the Houston Chronicle that I sent in addition to the fact sheet that I sent to 01:58:26.659 --> 01:58:29.813 everyone because those are good talking points 01:58:29.838 --> 01:58:32.900 and things that we, you know, want to be able 01:58:32.900 --> 01:58:35.615 to talk to our legislators about. You know, I 01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:38.270 think there's just a lot of misunderstanding 01:58:38.270 --> 01:58:43.400 and confusion between what School Land board does, what the state board 01:58:43.400 --> 01:58:49.050 does, even what our role is, how we look at things that you know, how we even come to 01:58:49.050 --> 01:58:51.793 decisions and that sort of thing. And we want to 01:58:51.818 --> 01:58:54.369 be clear is we possibly can. And so hopefully 01:58:54.369 --> 01:58:57.176 the talking points that are the one page or something 01:58:57.201 --> 01:58:59.619 that you can easily send onto your legislative 01:58:59.619 --> 01:59:04.900 delegation and other constituents that you have that would, you know, work alongside 01:59:04.900 --> 01:59:07.458 you in advocating for the role that the board 01:59:07.483 --> 01:59:09.849 is done for one hundred fifty three years. 01:59:09.849 --> 01:59:17.909 So I think you know that that role is an important role,I know, to oll of our members 01:59:17.909 --> 01:59:21.792 and we very much need engagement at this point, 01:59:21.817 --> 01:59:25.190 moving forward on this because the rubber 01:59:25.190 --> 01:59:28.385 is meeting the road at this moment. And so we 01:59:28.410 --> 01:59:31.510 need to be making sure our delegation knows, 01:59:31.510 --> 01:59:35.679 knows about our work, knows what we've done, knows the fiduciary job we've done. 01:59:35.679 --> 01:59:40.189 We've been good stewards of this fund and and I think that's provable by facts, not 01:59:40.189 --> 01:59:42.745 because it's based on any opinions. So I tried to 01:59:42.770 --> 01:59:45.249 give you some of those facts in the facts sheet. 01:59:45.249 --> 01:59:51.429 So if you need anything else or you know, please let Debbie know, sorry, let me know 01:59:51.429 --> 02:00:00.870 if you need anything else that I can send you. That would be great. What about it? 02:00:00.870 --> 02:00:13.620 We talked about branding a little bit, by the way. Did y'all get a PSF water bottle or no? - (inaudible speech off-microphone) 02:00:13.620 --> 02:00:24.789 We'll see what we can do. Okay, Okay. Yeah. - (inaudible speech off-microphone) $150? - I think Colin's got 'em, so we'll see 02:00:24.789 --> 02:00:26.687 we can get you one. 02:00:26.712 --> 02:00:32.380 - Any other. Any other discussion? Do we have any any announcements or anything 02:00:32.380 --> 02:00:36.280 that people want to talk about their personal lives. We love personal announcements and 02:00:36.280 --> 02:00:40.606 excitement. Exciting things going on. Nothing exciting? 02:00:40.631 --> 02:00:44.159 Oh, yes, Miss Perez-Diaz and then Mr. Rowley. 02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:51.949 - So just wanted to share with the group that I will be starting my PhD studies 02:00:51.949 --> 02:01:06.169 in the fall. (microphone cuts off) So I'll be studying of educational leadership. Thank you. 02:01:06.169 --> 02:01:07.872 - And Mr. Rowley? 02:01:07.897 --> 02:01:12.980 - Well, if you happen to be in Dallas, in the Dallas area next weekend, my son Michael 02:01:12.979 --> 02:01:17.909 has a documentary film that's going to be premiering at the Dallas Film Institute. And 02:01:17.909 --> 02:01:26.010 so that will be Friday night. It is about Palestinian, a Palestinian parkour team, 02:01:26.010 --> 02:01:29.375 which is a group of young men who do the 02:01:29.400 --> 02:01:33.150 parkour, you know, jump and...in Israel, Yeah, 02:01:33.150 --> 02:01:37.190 it's their way of responding to the situation 02:01:37.215 --> 02:01:41.230 in which they find themselves in the occupied 02:01:41.230 --> 02:01:44.554 territories. - (inaudible speech off-microphone) - Yeah, jumping 02:01:44.579 --> 02:01:47.719 over walls. Hurdle. Hurdle is the name of the film. So there you go. 02:01:47.719 --> 02:01:50.180 - (inaudible speech off-microphone) 02:01:50.205 --> 02:01:53.744 - It should be PBS, actually, is looking at it. 02:01:53.769 --> 02:01:56.840 And others. So there's a possibility that 02:01:56.840 --> 02:02:02.318 it'll be out at some point, but I'll let you know. 02:02:02.343 --> 02:02:06.400 - On May 1, my scholarship foundation 02:02:06.400 --> 02:02:09.817 anticipates giving away half a million dollars 02:02:09.842 --> 02:02:13.380 in scholarships to students in our rural schools 02:02:13.380 --> 02:02:17.197 in El Paso County, and our students who are, 02:02:17.222 --> 02:02:21.269 what the state considers at risk for graduating 02:02:21.269 --> 02:02:23.725 on time, and we took, we have worked with them for 02:02:23.750 --> 02:02:25.989 six months. We take them through a competitive 02:02:25.989 --> 02:02:29.465 college portfolio process, and we help them 02:02:29.490 --> 02:02:33.019 prepare for college, career, or military service. 02:02:33.019 --> 02:02:41.229 And we have one hundred and fifteen students this year that we plan on, not only giving 02:02:41.229 --> 02:02:46.369 several scholarships to, but also helping them transition into their next step 02:02:46.369 --> 02:02:50.496 in life after graduating high school. 02:02:50.521 --> 02:02:56.579 - Yes, Doctor Ellis? - Since our good friend Miss West 02:02:56.579 --> 02:02:58.595 kind of kind of picked fun a little bit about our 02:02:58.620 --> 02:03:00.449 A and M Aggies today, and in deference to our 02:03:00.449 --> 02:03:03.851 new member, Miss Little, who is a diehard Aggie 02:03:03.876 --> 02:03:07.040 also, and in also deference to Miss Cargill, 02:03:07.040 --> 02:03:09.669 who has now has family members, a daughter 02:03:09.694 --> 02:03:12.360 in law, daughter in law, who's now an Aggie, 02:03:12.360 --> 02:03:15.019 my third child of three will be receiving his Aggie 02:03:15.044 --> 02:03:18.929 ring next week, so we're all excited about that also. 02:03:19.029 --> 02:03:26.452 (microphone turns off) 02:03:27.677 --> 02:03:34.369 - That's right. The big game. - Lady Bears, Lady Bears 02:03:34.469 --> 02:03:41.982 play the Final Four tonight. Lady Bears play in the Final Four tonight. 02:03:42.007 --> 02:03:46.920 (microphone turns off) 02:03:46.944 --> 02:03:49.341 - I'm having trouble being excited for any of you. 02:03:49.365 --> 02:03:51.365 (crosstalk off-microphone) 02:03:51.389 --> 02:03:53.389 - This is Texas. 02:03:53.413 --> 02:03:57.366 - I have to brag, too. I have to brag, too. My daughter from 02:03:57.391 --> 02:04:01.513 Stanford Law just came back from studying, at her quarter break, 02:04:01.530 --> 02:04:06.110 that she studied in Israel and got the meet the Israeli Supreme Court, mayors, and 02:04:06.110 --> 02:04:10.489 everything else, and that's pretty neat. I brag on Baylor and Texas Tech, and for those 02:04:10.489 --> 02:04:13.441 who are interested with my retired, my civilian 02:04:13.466 --> 02:04:16.209 job, I'll be experiencing my lifelong dream, 02:04:16.209 --> 02:04:19.406 which is to open a a Country Western, Ballroom 02:04:19.431 --> 02:04:22.739 Dance, and Ballet Dance studio. Yes, I'm joking. 02:04:22.739 --> 02:04:45.030 - I was thinking, Wow, that is awesome. (inaudible crosstalk) Exactly, Exactly. Exactly. That's right. That's right. 02:04:45.030 --> 02:04:50.156 We can't unsee that. Thank you. Exactly. 02:04:50.181 --> 02:05:02.649 - You have to admit though, it's better than the dad jokes. 02:05:02.649 --> 02:05:04.762 Just so members will know, on Tuesday, I'm going 02:05:04.787 --> 02:05:06.659 to get the delightful pleasure of having my 02:05:06.659 --> 02:05:09.089 second knee operation. So if I don't answer 02:05:09.114 --> 02:05:11.739 your, if you send a note, an email or whatever, 02:05:11.739 --> 02:05:16.880 you know, I'm not gonna get it for a little bit. Or if you get back a strange reply, 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:20.238 you might know why. So, anyway, I just I will 02:05:20.263 --> 02:05:23.670 try to stay off my phone and off the computer. 02:05:23.670 --> 02:05:29.719 Just to make sure. - Madam Chairman, it's just a good thing. You're not a horse. 02:05:29.719 --> 02:05:36.209 - I would been put out of my misery quite a long time ago. - (inaudible cross talk) 02:05:36.209 --> 02:05:41.894 - Should give me a leg up, yeah. Thank you, Mr. Rowley. 02:05:41.919 --> 02:05:46.360 Alright, members, appreciate your hard work 02:05:46.360 --> 02:05:49.072 again this week. You know, always love serving 02:05:49.097 --> 02:05:51.610 with each one of you. And, you know, I told 02:05:51.610 --> 02:05:56.429 this to so many people. I'm just so proud to be part of this group and just so honored 02:05:56.429 --> 02:06:02.059 to be the chair for however a short time I've got left. But I really, really enjoyed 02:06:02.059 --> 02:06:06.110 it. And I love working with you every week. I say, Okay, yes. We could do this again. 02:06:06.110 --> 02:06:10.489 It's just great. So blessings to all of you and we'll see you in June.