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<v Woman>First, we're gonna go ahead and get started.</v>

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(audience chatting)

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(gavel striking)

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<v ->And I believe, Mrs. Miller is going to introduce</v>

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our student performance this morning.

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Really appreciate your indulgence today.

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It's kind of a big day for the State Board,

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'cause we've got three retiring members that we love dearly.

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This is their last meeting, so we had to do

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a little picture taking, so we appreciate letting us delay.

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And we're excited.

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Mrs. Miller, are you gonna come up and talk to us

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about the Park Version Vocal Ensemble?

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Go ahead and introduce them.

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<v ->Park Version Vocal Ensemble is a small group of singers</v>

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from Highland Park High School specializing

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in acapella repertoire suited for the show choir, pop group,

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or vocal jazz ensemble.

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The members of this ensemble are selected

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through an audition process and are also current members

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of the Varsity Mixed Choir, the Lads and Lassies.

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They can be seen entertaining throughout

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the Park Cities community and the greater Dallas area.

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Natalie Walker, has been the director of this ensemble

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since 2008, and serves as the director of K-12 choral music

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for the district, as well as the Fine Arts Department Chair

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of the High School.

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Welcome you all.

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This is my kids' school.

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They all graduated from Highland Park

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and I'm just so thrilled to have you all down here.

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Thank you.

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(clapping)

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♪ Bom, bom, bom ♪

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♪ Woah, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ For the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, ♪

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♪ For the longest ♪

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♪ If you said goodbye to me tonight ♪

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♪ There would still be music left to write ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah, ♪

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♪ What else could I do ♪

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♪ I'm so inspired by you ♪

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♪ That hasn't happened for the longest time ♪

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♪ Once I thought my innocence was gone ♪

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♪ Now I know that happiness goes on ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah ♪

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♪ That's where you found me ♪

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♪ When you put your arms around me ♪

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♪ I haven't been there for the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh, ♪

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♪ For the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ For the longest ♪

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♪ I'm that voice you're hearing in the hall ♪

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♪ And the greatest miracle of all ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah ♪

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♪ Is how I need you ♪

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♪ And how you needed me too ♪

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♪ It hasn't happened for the longest time ♪

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♪ I had second thoughts at the start ♪

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♪ I said to myself ♪

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♪ Hold on to your heart ♪

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♪ Now I know that woman that you are ♪

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♪ You're wonderful so far ♪

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♪ And it's more than I hoped for ♪

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♪ I don't care what consequence it brings ♪

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♪ I have been a fool for lesser things ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah, ♪

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♪ I want you so bad ♪

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♪ I think you ought to know ♪

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♪ That I intend to hold you for the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ For the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh, ♪

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♪ For the longest time ♪

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♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪

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♪ For the longest time ♪

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(clapping)

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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Thank you so much for inviting us to your meeting today.

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So, the song y'all just heard was "The Longest Time"

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by Billy Joel.

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And now we are going to sing one of our favorites,

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a King's Singers arrangement, and a James Taylor classic,

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"Lonesome Road."

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♪ Walk down that lonesome road ♪

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♪ All by yourself ♪

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♪ Don't turn your head ♪

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♪ Back over your shoulder ♪

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♪ And only stop to rest yourself ♪

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♪ When the silver moon ♪

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♪ Is shining high ♪

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♪ Above the trees ♪

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♪ If I had stopped ♪

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♪ To listen once or twice ♪

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♪ If I had closed my mouth ♪

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♪ and opened my eyes ♪

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♪ If I had cooled my head ♪

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♪ And warmed my heart ♪

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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪

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♪ I'd not be on ♪

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♪ This road tonight ♪

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♪ Carry on ♪

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♪ Carry on ♪

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♪ Carry on ♪

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♪ Ooh ♪

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(audio cutting out)

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♪ Ooh ♪

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♪ Is shining high ♪

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♪ Is shining high ♪

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♪ Above the trees ♪

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(clapping)

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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♪ I tell myself that I'm better off without you ♪

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♪ It turns out you can't be counted on ♪

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♪ And now I've got a lot of living left to do ♪

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♪ I'm walking away ♪

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♪ It's a beautiful day ♪

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♪ A wonderful time ♪

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♪ I'm playin' around and around ♪

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♪ I'm playing, I know ♪

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♪ I'm born to be bound to be free and happy ♪

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♪ It's no crime walking in the sun ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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♪ I've had some crazy, busy days and busy nights ♪

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♪ Seen the memory of you fading with dawn ♪

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♪ And laid my hungry hands on heavenly delights ♪

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♪ And I'm singing this song ♪

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♪ Not a thing can go wrong ♪

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♪ A wonderful time ♪

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♪ I'm playin' around and around ♪

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♪ I play and I know ♪

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♪ I'm born to be bound to be free and happy ♪

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♪ It's no crime walking in the sun ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, ♪

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♪ Not since you've been gone ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, forever ♪

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♪ Still I remember the look in your eyes that day ♪

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♪ When (audio cutting out) ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah ♪

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♪ Not since you've been gone ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, woah ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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♪ I've been trying so hard to make it on my own ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone, I've been trying to ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, oh, oh ♪

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♪ Since you've been gone ♪

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(clapping)

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<v ->(mumbling) The next song, which is a little bit greater</v>

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is (audio cutting out) Stevie Wonder.

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Do, ba, do, ba, do it, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Do, ba, do, ba, do it, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Do, ba, do, ba, do it, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Very superstitious ♪

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♪ Writing's on the wall ♪

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♪ Very superstitious ♪

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♪ Ladder's about to fall ♪

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♪ Thirteen month old baby ♪

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♪ Dah, di, dah, dah, di, dah, baby, dah, di, dah ♪

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♪ Broke the looking glass ♪

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♪ Seven years of bad luck ♪

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♪ The good things in your past ♪

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(audio cutting out)

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♪ Can ♪

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♪ Keep me in a daydream ♪

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♪ Keep me going strong ♪

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♪ You don't want to save me ♪

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♪ Ba, do, dah ♪

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♪ Sad is my song ♪

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♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ When you believe in things ♪

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♪ That you don't understand ♪

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♪ Then you suffer, ah, ah ♪

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♪ Superstition ain't the way ♪

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♪ Ba, dah, wa, wa, wa, wi, on ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, dah ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Dah, dah, dah, do, do, do, do ♪

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♪ Very superstitious ♪

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♪ Nothing more to say ♪

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♪ Nothing more to say ♪

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♪ Very superstitious ♪

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♪ Devil's on his way ♪

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♪ Yeah, he's on his way ♪

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♪ Very superstitious ♪

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♪ Nothing more to say ♪

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♪ Ba, do, dah ♪

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♪ Ba, di, di, dah, dah, dah ♪

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(clapping)

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<v ->Thank you for having us here today.</v>

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It's such an honor.

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Ms. Miller, congratulations and thank you so much again.

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We wouldn't be actually to be in school that would help us.

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(laughing) Thank you so much.

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We want to thank you on behalf of all the students.

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So, thank you so much.

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♪ The Lord bless you and keep you ♪

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♪ The Lord lift his countenance upon you ♪

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♪ And give you peace ♪

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♪ And give you peace ♪

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♪ And give you peace ♪

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♪ And give you peace ♪

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♪ The Lord make his face to shine upon you ♪

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♪ And be gra ♪

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♪ And be gracious ♪

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♪ Unto you ♪

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♪ And be gracious ♪

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♪ The Lord be gracious ♪

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♪ Gracious unto you ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, Amen ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, Amen ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, Amen ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Amen ♪

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♪ Amen, Amen ♪

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♪ Ah, ah, ah, Amen ♪

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♪ Amen ♪

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(clapping)

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♪ When some loud braggart tries to put me down ♪

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♪ And says his school is great ♪

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♪ I tell him right away ♪

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♪ Now what's the matter buddy ♪

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♪ Aint you heard of my school ♪

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♪ It's number one in the state ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Just like you would to your girl or guy ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Let your colors fly ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, yeah ♪

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♪ I got a Letterman's sweater ♪

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♪ With the letters in front ♪

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♪ I got for football and track ♪

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♪ I'm proud to wear it now ♪

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♪ When I cruise around ♪

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♪ The other parts of the town ♪

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♪ I got my decal in back ♪

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♪ So be true to your school ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Just like you would to your girl or guy ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ ♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Let your colors fly ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ♪

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♪ Rah (clapping) rah rah (clapping) rah, sis (clapping) ♪

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♪ boom, bah (clapping) ♪

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♪ Rah (clapping) rah rah (clapping) rah, sis (clapping) ♪

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♪ boom, bah (clapping) ♪

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♪ Rah (clapping) rah rah (clapping) rah, sis (clapping) ♪

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♪ boom, bah (clapping) ♪

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♪ Rah (clapping) rah rah (clapping) rah, sis (clapping) ♪

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♪ boom, bah (clapping) ♪

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♪ ♪ Rah, rah, rah, rah, yeah ♪

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♪ Be true to your school ♪

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♪ School, school, school, school ♪

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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪

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(clapping)

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<v ->That was fantastic you all.</v>

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Thank you so much.

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I appreciate it.

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I'm a little emotional, so, just bear with me.

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I'm looking, where is our little Natalie, okay.

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This is from our board to you all.

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It says State Board of Education special recognition

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presented to the Park Version Vocal Ensemble Highland Park

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High School.

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Highland Park Independent School District to Natalie Walker,

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Director and K-12 Choral Music, Neal Patel,

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Associate Director of Choral Music,

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in appreciation for the outstanding performance

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at the State Board of Education General Meeting,

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November 16, 2018, Austin, TX.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Thank you so much.</v>

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<v ->You're welcome.</v>

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Would you like to say a few words.

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<v ->Thank you all so much for having us.</v>

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We were honored by the invitation and are thrilled

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to be able to perform for all of you today.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, thank you.

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(clapping)

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(audience chatting and giggling)

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(clapping)

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(audience chatting)

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<v ->Alright members, now we will go ahead</v>

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and have our invocation and pledges.

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And I'd like to call on David Bradley.

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<v Mr. Bradley>Good morning.</v>

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<v Audience Member>Good morning.</v>

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<v ->We traditionally open meetings of governmental bodies</v>

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with prayer.

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It's largely an unbroken tradition since 1619.

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Sometimes, prayers are offered by Chaplains,

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both pay and volunteer,

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and sometimes, by government officials themselves.

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As when George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower

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led prayers at their own inaugurations.

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Or when Franklin Roosevelt led the nation

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in a six and half minute prayer on D-Day.

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Public prayers are so much part of America that by 1815,

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there had been over 1,400 government

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issued calls to prayer.

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This morning, I will continue that long tradition of prayer

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at governmental meetings by governmental leaders

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by offering the prayer that George Washington himself

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issued for all the states at the end of the American War

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for Independence, here is that prayer.

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I now make it my earnest prayer that God would have us

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in His holy protection.

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That He would cause our hearts to cultivate a spirit

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of respect and obedience to government.

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To have a brotherly affection and love for one another.

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For our fellow citizens of the United States

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and particularly for the veterans who have served

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in the field.

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And finally that He would cause us all to do justice,

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to have mercy, and to conduct ourselves with that charity,

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humility, and pacific temper of mind.

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Which were the characteristics of the divine author

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of our blessed religion.

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For without an humble imitation of His example

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in these things we can never hope to be a happy nation.

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Amen.

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And I believe I'm responsible for the pledges.

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And I was even given a cheat, cheat, so I don't botch.

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(laughing)

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<v ->I pledge allegiance, to the flag,</v>

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of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic, for which it stands.

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One nation, under God, indivisible,

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with Liberty and justice for all.

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<v ->The Texas pledge,</v>

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<v ->Honor the Texas flag.</v>

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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas

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One state, under God, one and indivisible.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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<v ->Thank you Mr. Bradley.</v>

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And now, we're gonna go ahead and do the roll call.

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<v Woman>Mr. Allen.</v>

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<v Mr. Allen>Present.</v>

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Mrs. Bahorich.

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Beltran.</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Bradley.</v>

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<v Mr. Bradley>A motion to adjourn.</v>

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(laughing)

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<v Ms. Bahorich>It's out of order.</v>

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(laughing)

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<v Woman>Mrs. Cargill.</v>

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<v Mrs. Cargill>Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Mr. Cortez</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Dr. Ellis</v>

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<v Dr. Ellis>Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Ms.Hardy.</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Mr. Maynard.</v>

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<v Mr. Maynard>Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Ms. Melton-Malone</v>

00:24:01.124 --> 00:24:01.957
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v Woman>Mr. Mercer.</v>

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<v Mr. Mercer>Present.</v>

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<v Woman>Mrs. Miller.</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Perez</v>

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(laughing)

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Ms. Perez-Diaz.

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<v ->She's (mumbling) out.</v>

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Her colleague is here, but not Ms. Perez-Diaz.

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<v Woman>And Mr. Rowley.</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Members, I'm also gonna ask for approval of minutes.</v>

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Were there any correction to the minutes

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from September meeting?

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Hearing none.

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Minutes are approved.

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And now we have resolutions and presentations.

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And we have quite a few today.

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So, I'm gonna call on our Board Secretary, Mr. Cortez.

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<v ->Good Morning.</v>

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You know these kids that performed from your district

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did a phenomenal job.

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For a while there, I thought I was watching that movie

00:25:31.306 --> 00:25:34.556
where the Bellas, the acapella singers.

00:25:35.551 --> 00:25:37.709
They did phenomenal, and then, at the end,

00:25:37.709 --> 00:25:40.459
when that young man did that last

00:25:43.917 --> 00:25:44.750
thing he did,

00:25:44.750 --> 00:25:46.683
I thought I was watching the Grease movie for a second.

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(laughing)

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It was great.

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Very good.

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Well, we've got several things to celebrate today.

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And what we're gonna deal with right now

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is National History Day.

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And we've got a lot of, a lot of students,

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who we'd like to recognize if I can get them

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to come in to our circle,

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as we prepare to read this resolution.

00:26:24.932 --> 00:26:28.693
Debbie, are these broken up by SBOE member?

00:26:28.693 --> 00:26:29.610
Nope, okay.

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So, resolution, whereas the Texas State Board of Education

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considers high academic standards as the foundation

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of public education in Texas.

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And whereas the National History Day program fosters

00:26:46.611 --> 00:26:49.415
academic achievement and intellectual growth,

00:26:49.415 --> 00:26:53.158
requires student participants to conduct extensive

00:26:53.158 --> 00:26:57.927
primary and secondary source research on a topic of

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historical significance, and promotes pride in each

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student's participants heritage and in our nations history

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and place in the world;

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and whereas the annual National History Day Contest,

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with the theme of conflict and compromise in History,

00:27:18.989 --> 00:27:21.622
was held in College Park, Maryland,

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on June 10th through 14th, 2018;

00:27:25.330 --> 00:27:28.913
and whereas Reymundo Barrera, Roland Reyes,

00:27:30.310 --> 00:27:34.143
Abigail Tack, Isaiah Thomas, and Hector Torres

00:27:35.018 --> 00:27:40.018
of Nimitz High School in Houston, Texas won third place

00:27:40.351 --> 00:27:42.100
in the senior group exhibit category

00:27:42.100 --> 00:27:44.267
with their project titled,

00:27:45.746 --> 00:27:49.413
"The Chamizal Dispute: A Century of Conflict."

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Now, therefore, be it resolved,

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that the State Board of Education does hereby congratulate

00:27:58.128 --> 00:28:01.378
these 2018 National History Day winners

00:28:06.126 --> 00:28:08.427
from Aldine Independent School District.

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And be it further resolved that this resolution

00:28:10.885 --> 00:28:13.744
be presented to the aforementioned students

00:28:13.744 --> 00:28:15.519
for their winning project

00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.962
at the National History Day Contest

00:28:17.962 --> 00:28:20.951
and that a copy be included in the permanent records

00:28:20.951 --> 00:28:23.279
of the State Board of Education.

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(audio cutting out)

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Witness our signatures, this 16th day of November, 2018

00:28:30.632 --> 00:28:32.000
in Austin, TX.

00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:33.919
Donna Bahorich, Chair.

00:28:33.919 --> 00:28:35.919
Ruben Cortez, Secretary.

00:28:36.845 --> 00:28:38.603
Congratulations.

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(clapping)

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You wanna take this out to the students?

00:28:57.132 --> 00:29:00.132
(audio cutting off)

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Congratulations, guys.

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We've got a number of other resolutions as we have

00:30:10.249 --> 00:30:13.749
some outgoing members that are leaving us.

00:30:15.452 --> 00:30:17.227
But before, we do that,

00:30:17.227 --> 00:30:21.912
we do have one additional special announcement.

00:30:21.912 --> 00:30:24.381
We have one of our very own celebrating

00:30:24.381 --> 00:30:25.964
her birthday today.

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<v ->We couldn't let this pass by without telling you</v>

00:30:30.272 --> 00:30:34.870
how much we appreciate you and thank you for all you do,

00:30:34.870 --> 00:30:37.444
so, will you join us please in singing?

00:30:37.444 --> 00:30:39.231
<v ->Monica Martinez</v>

00:30:39.231 --> 00:30:40.332
Stand up Monica.

00:30:40.332 --> 00:30:41.865
<v ->Who we give a constant headache to.</v>

00:30:41.865 --> 00:30:42.698
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:30:42.698 --> 00:30:44.434
<v ->And she is so gracious.</v>

00:30:44.434 --> 00:30:46.026
<v ->We're giving you something good.</v>

00:30:46.026 --> 00:30:46.996
(laughing)

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Join me please.

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday dear Monica ♪

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:05.027
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

00:31:05.027 --> 00:31:06.343
♪ And many more ♪

00:31:06.343 --> 00:31:09.676
(Clapping and laughing)

00:31:11.253 --> 00:31:14.586
(chatting and laughing)

00:31:22.127 --> 00:31:24.587
<v Mr. Bradley>Madam Chair.</v>

00:31:24.587 --> 00:31:25.514
Madam Chair.

00:31:25.514 --> 00:31:26.380
<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

00:31:26.380 --> 00:31:27.626
<v Mr. Bradley>I see Debbie sitting there</v>

00:31:27.626 --> 00:31:28.459
a little bit smug,

00:31:28.459 --> 00:31:31.484
but I think she just passed a great day too.

00:31:31.484 --> 00:31:32.421
<v Woman>Did she.</v>

00:31:32.421 --> 00:31:33.368
<v Mr. Bradley>Yeah, yeah.</v>

00:31:33.368 --> 00:31:35.441
Monica go ahead and squeal on her.

00:31:35.441 --> 00:31:36.501
(laughing)

00:31:36.501 --> 00:31:37.751
<v ->November 8th.</v>

00:31:40.793 --> 00:31:43.815
So, Debbie had the pleasure of celebrating her birthday

00:31:43.815 --> 00:31:45.611
with you last year.

00:31:45.611 --> 00:31:48.929
I have the pleasure almost every other year.

00:31:48.929 --> 00:31:51.080
But yes, last week right?

00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:52.046
<v ->Uh-huh.</v>

00:31:52.046 --> 00:31:53.271
<v ->Yep.</v>

00:31:53.271 --> 00:31:55.521
<v Members>Happy Birthday.</v>

00:31:56.997 --> 00:32:01.117
<v ->(sighing) What a day right?</v>

00:32:01.117 --> 00:32:02.617
Lots to celebrate.

00:32:04.070 --> 00:32:07.770
Well, we're gonna move on to our resolutions

00:32:07.770 --> 00:32:09.770
of our retiring members.

00:32:11.787 --> 00:32:15.685
I get the honor of reading the one for Erica Beltran,

00:32:15.685 --> 00:32:19.020
but we also have Ms.Tincy Miller, who's dedicated many,

00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:22.471
many years of service on this Board.

00:32:22.471 --> 00:32:24.676
Thank you very much for your service.

00:32:24.676 --> 00:32:28.290
Someone will come up, is gonna read a resolution

00:32:28.290 --> 00:32:30.941
on your behalf in a moment, no, no,

00:32:30.941 --> 00:32:33.566
we'll get to yours in a moment.

00:32:33.566 --> 00:32:35.913
But, before I read Erica's, I just wanted to thank you

00:32:35.913 --> 00:32:37.330
for your efforts.

00:32:40.113 --> 00:32:41.613
And David as well.

00:32:42.506 --> 00:32:46.766
I know that sometimes there's disagreements in this circle,

00:32:46.766 --> 00:32:50.835
but I also know that we all come here with wanting

00:32:50.835 --> 00:32:53.282
to do what's right for kids, and at the end,

00:32:53.282 --> 00:32:56.547
however we get there, we get there, and I just wanna

00:32:56.547 --> 00:33:00.169
thank you both, or all three of you, for your service

00:33:00.169 --> 00:33:01.919
to children in Texas.

00:33:06.578 --> 00:33:09.172
So, I have the resolution for Erica Beltran.

00:33:09.172 --> 00:33:12.647
Whereas, Erica Beltran, stand up, please, come on.

00:33:12.647 --> 00:33:13.618
(laughing)

00:33:13.618 --> 00:33:14.853
Stand up.

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And by the way, she's joined by her husband, Hector.

00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.470
Hector do you wanna come on over?

00:33:21.311 --> 00:33:22.553
Don't be shy.

00:33:22.553 --> 00:33:24.130
Before I start.

00:33:24.130 --> 00:33:28.578
You know, serving on a Board like this, takes a toll

00:33:28.578 --> 00:33:32.696
on family as well, and so without the support of spouse,

00:33:32.696 --> 00:33:36.592
some of these things just are kind of difficult

00:33:36.592 --> 00:33:38.626
with the amount of hours that we put in,

00:33:38.626 --> 00:33:40.543
days of travel, and so.

00:33:41.772 --> 00:33:43.916
Just, if we can get Hector down here for a moment.

00:33:43.916 --> 00:33:46.151
Whereas, Erica Beltran was elected

00:33:46.151 --> 00:33:49.024
to the State Board of Education in 2014;

00:33:49.024 --> 00:33:52.952
whereas she represents her hometown of Fort Worth

00:33:52.952 --> 00:33:54.596
and the surrounding area.

00:33:54.596 --> 00:33:58.206
And whereas this educator and policy leader has proven

00:33:58.206 --> 00:34:02.776
her commitment to improving education for all Texas children

00:34:02.776 --> 00:34:04.776
and whereas Ms. Beltran,

00:34:06.950 --> 00:34:10.179
as a first generation graduate herself,

00:34:10.179 --> 00:34:15.179
understands the life changing impact of a quality education.

00:34:16.048 --> 00:34:19.257
And whereas, through her position as a member

00:34:19.257 --> 00:34:21.497
of the Committee on Instruction, she worked

00:34:21.497 --> 00:34:24.144
to strengthen instructional programs;

00:34:24.144 --> 00:34:27.977
and whereas a State Board of Education Member

00:34:29.535 --> 00:34:32.535
(audio cutting out)

00:34:34.201 --> 00:34:37.689
The Texas History courses tell the story of all children

00:34:37.689 --> 00:34:39.295
and their families.

00:34:39.295 --> 00:34:42.135
Whereas she played an important role in creating the

00:34:42.135 --> 00:34:46.459
State's first Mexican-American Studies course;

00:34:46.459 --> 00:34:50.161
whereas Ms. Beltran's thoughtful and professional demeanor

00:34:50.161 --> 00:34:54.411
helped find consensus points among desperate views.

00:34:56.431 --> 00:34:59.272
Now, therefore be it resolved,

00:34:59.272 --> 00:35:02.089
that the State Board of Education expresses

00:35:02.089 --> 00:35:05.576
it's thanks and gratitude for a job well done

00:35:05.576 --> 00:35:08.416
and be it further resolved that the Board encourages

00:35:08.416 --> 00:35:11.530
this young leader to continue her involvement

00:35:11.530 --> 00:35:13.863
in education policy matters.

00:35:14.931 --> 00:35:19.237
Witness our signatures this 16th day of November, 2018.

00:35:19.237 --> 00:35:20.474
Austin, TX.

00:35:20.474 --> 00:35:22.299
Chair, Donna Belhorich.

00:35:22.299 --> 00:35:24.264
Secretary, Ruben Cortez.

00:35:24.264 --> 00:35:28.431
Erica, it truly has been an honor to work with you

00:35:31.928 --> 00:35:34.605
and our other departing members.

00:35:34.605 --> 00:35:39.513
I have to say I'm gonna miss you, I'm gonna miss Tincy,

00:35:39.513 --> 00:35:41.943
I'm gonna miss my frenemy, David Bradley over there.

00:35:41.943 --> 00:35:44.139
(laughing)

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:46.922
Because whatever happens outside of here,

00:35:46.922 --> 00:35:48.972
we know not to take what happens

00:35:48.972 --> 00:35:51.792
in here outside of this room.

00:35:51.792 --> 00:35:54.307
And that's what's made working with this group

00:35:54.307 --> 00:35:56.560
and with you very special.

00:35:56.560 --> 00:35:57.842
And so, you will be missed.

00:35:57.842 --> 00:36:02.681
We also have an acknowledgement from the Governor of Texas.

00:36:02.681 --> 00:36:05.825
And so, I'll give both of these to you.

00:36:05.825 --> 00:36:07.506
Thank you for your service.

00:36:07.506 --> 00:36:09.756
(clapping)

00:36:18.917 --> 00:36:21.206
(laughing)

00:36:21.206 --> 00:36:24.481
<v ->Well I was trying to not get emotional today,</v>

00:36:24.481 --> 00:36:26.334
but that didn't last for very long.

00:36:26.334 --> 00:36:27.780
<v Mr. Cortez>It's okay.</v>

00:36:27.780 --> 00:36:31.811
<v ->Thank you Ruben for reading the resolution</v>

00:36:31.811 --> 00:36:34.898
and for being a friend along the way.

00:36:34.898 --> 00:36:37.400
I mentioned last night that I feel like I've learned so much

00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.983
from everyone around the table.

00:36:40.915 --> 00:36:43.478
And I'm carrying that forward.

00:36:43.478 --> 00:36:45.743
And I appreciate the opportunity to.

00:36:45.743 --> 00:36:47.761
The four years that I spent at this seat,

00:36:47.761 --> 00:36:51.525
which is actually the worst seat (laughing)

00:36:51.525 --> 00:36:53.228
around the circle because I can't see people

00:36:53.228 --> 00:36:54.667
who are speaking.

00:36:54.667 --> 00:36:58.515
But all of that being said, I can't take credit for any

00:36:58.515 --> 00:37:01.422
of these accomplishments on my own.

00:37:01.422 --> 00:37:04.945
Because they've been a team effort of both,

00:37:04.945 --> 00:37:07.967
with colleagues from both sides of the aisle and

00:37:07.967 --> 00:37:11.175
so, that's what I take so much pride in walking away today.

00:37:11.175 --> 00:37:15.617
Knowing that we are all here for the same reasons.

00:37:15.617 --> 00:37:19.620
And I think most of you know, I do work in education,

00:37:19.620 --> 00:37:23.146
and so I don't feel like I'm leaving the field.

00:37:23.146 --> 00:37:24.255
I'm clearly not.

00:37:24.255 --> 00:37:26.220
I'm gonna continue to stay active.

00:37:26.220 --> 00:37:30.377
I hope that we continue to remain colleagues

00:37:30.377 --> 00:37:33.708
in doing this work and making sure that all Texas kids

00:37:33.708 --> 00:37:36.176
have what they so rightfully deserve.

00:37:36.176 --> 00:37:39.076
Thank you all for your time.

00:37:39.076 --> 00:37:42.502
And also thank you to all of the people who live

00:37:42.502 --> 00:37:46.804
in District 13 who elected me into this role.

00:37:46.804 --> 00:37:47.794
I think campaigning was one

00:37:47.794 --> 00:37:50.794
of the most eye opening experiences,

00:37:52.773 --> 00:37:54.017
one of the most challenging,

00:37:54.017 --> 00:37:56.321
but also one of the experiences

00:37:56.321 --> 00:37:59.330
that I think taught me a lot.

00:37:59.330 --> 00:38:02.054
And I think I'm just indebted to so many people,

00:38:02.054 --> 00:38:07.054
including my husband who I shouldn't forget like last night.

00:38:07.425 --> 00:38:09.494
So many people who supported me in this journey,

00:38:09.494 --> 00:38:11.999
in so many different capacities,

00:38:11.999 --> 00:38:12.889
in so many ways,

00:38:12.889 --> 00:38:16.398
and I think one of the things that brings me the most joy

00:38:16.398 --> 00:38:18.825
in addition to everything we were able to accomplish

00:38:18.825 --> 00:38:22.492
as a team over these four years, I'm also just elated

00:38:22.492 --> 00:38:26.152
that Aisha Davis will be in this seat moving forward.

00:38:26.152 --> 00:38:29.886
Because I think she has so much relevant experience

00:38:29.886 --> 00:38:32.997
and she's a wonderful, lovely person

00:38:32.997 --> 00:38:34.846
and a tremendous leader.

00:38:34.846 --> 00:38:36.693
So I know that, she's gonna do an amazing job

00:38:36.693 --> 00:38:39.667
for District 13 and for this Board.

00:38:39.667 --> 00:38:41.407
So, thank you so much.

00:38:41.407 --> 00:38:43.657
(clapping)

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.938
<v ->So now I need to get another member</v>

00:38:50.938 --> 00:38:54.674
of our Board of Education down here, who's gonna be reading

00:38:54.674 --> 00:38:57.757
the resolution for Mr. David Bradley.

00:38:59.273 --> 00:39:03.103
And we'll have Ken Mercer, District 5, step on down,

00:39:03.103 --> 00:39:05.064
you're the next contestant.

00:39:05.064 --> 00:39:06.897
<v ->Thank you Rubencito.</v>

00:39:07.822 --> 00:39:10.072
(laughing)

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.345
Well I have the pleasure of introducing David Bradley.

00:39:17.345 --> 00:39:19.584
I gotta say two true things.

00:39:19.584 --> 00:39:23.397
Some of you may have heard rumor that David has sometimes

00:39:23.397 --> 00:39:24.480
a unique wit.

00:39:25.755 --> 00:39:28.044
How many of y'all, any of y'all aware of that?

00:39:28.044 --> 00:39:32.201
But when we first met, one of the Democrat colleagues,

00:39:32.201 --> 00:39:34.637
and I will not mention a name, because I might not be able

00:39:34.637 --> 00:39:36.724
to walk out of here, but Theona was here.

00:39:36.724 --> 00:39:38.956
Theona is David's wife, wonderful lady.

00:39:38.956 --> 00:39:42.322
David and I are alike, we both married up, didn't we?

00:39:42.322 --> 00:39:44.624
And Theona was here and the Democratic colleague said,

00:39:44.624 --> 00:39:46.402
who is that?

00:39:46.402 --> 00:39:48.043
And I said, oh, that's David's wife.

00:39:48.043 --> 00:39:51.788
And the comment, was she said, wow, she must be a saint.

00:39:51.788 --> 00:39:54.154
(laughing)

00:39:54.154 --> 00:39:57.942
Well, there you go. (laughing)

00:39:57.942 --> 00:39:59.550
But the second thing, was I was kidding David

00:39:59.550 --> 00:40:01.092
was in a committee this week too,

00:40:01.092 --> 00:40:02.459
that the I guess news of David's

00:40:02.459 --> 00:40:04.959
retiring came out in the Permanent School Fund.

00:40:04.959 --> 00:40:08.375
And we began Monday, just over twenty-six thousand fifty,

00:40:08.375 --> 00:40:11.125
and yesterday, when we finished, our last,

00:40:11.125 --> 00:40:12.623
David's last meeting of the Permanent School Fund,

00:40:12.623 --> 00:40:15.986
we were going over a thousand under.

00:40:15.986 --> 00:40:18.690
We're about, just under 25,000 points.

00:40:18.690 --> 00:40:20.426
So, I guess the Dow is very much is aware

00:40:20.426 --> 00:40:21.259
you're leaving so.

00:40:21.259 --> 00:40:22.654
(laughing)

00:40:22.654 --> 00:40:25.681
I wanna share two resolutions, one from the Board

00:40:25.681 --> 00:40:28.079
and one from the Governor.

00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.518
Whereas, David Bradley, has faithfully served,

00:40:30.518 --> 00:40:34.935
faithfully the people of Southeast Texas, District 7,

00:40:36.471 --> 00:40:37.554
for 22 years;

00:40:38.464 --> 00:40:41.840
whereas the citizens have elected him and reelected him

00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.757
in '96, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2014;

00:40:48.456 --> 00:40:50.136
and whereas during his tenure,

00:40:50.136 --> 00:40:54.209
David has nurtured the fledgling charter school movement.

00:40:54.209 --> 00:40:56.806
And he helped the charter school system expand in size

00:40:56.806 --> 00:41:00.417
and strength with originally with twenty charter holders

00:41:00.417 --> 00:41:04.779
and growing to 126 charters in over 700 campuses;

00:41:04.779 --> 00:41:06.968
whereas, Mr. Bradley has developed a reputation

00:41:06.968 --> 00:41:10.340
of a protector and a defender of our Texas treasure,

00:41:10.340 --> 00:41:13.209
the Permanent School Fund;

00:41:13.209 --> 00:41:15.295
and whereas he's served as Vice Chair of the Board,

00:41:15.295 --> 00:41:17.604
and Chair of the Committee on Planning an twice served

00:41:17.604 --> 00:41:20.971
as the Chair on School Finance Permanent School Fund.

00:41:20.971 --> 00:41:23.721
And worries it is not fuzzy math.

00:41:25.249 --> 00:41:28.241
David, we say that the market value of

00:41:28.241 --> 00:41:32.340
the Permanent School Fund has grown 142%

00:41:32.340 --> 00:41:34.975
during his tenure from 14 billion

00:41:34.975 --> 00:41:37.725
to today's to 34 billion dollars,

00:41:39.300 --> 00:41:42.786
thanks for his careful stewardship and leadership.

00:41:42.786 --> 00:41:44.937
Whereas, he has taken a great interest in the textbook

00:41:44.937 --> 00:41:47.769
adoption process, a great interest, including personally

00:41:47.769 --> 00:41:52.519
checking the binding of every book he found questionable;

00:41:53.558 --> 00:41:55.349
and where he's been known to enliven

00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.729
a board discussion with his, I had to look this up,

00:41:58.729 --> 00:42:00.170
rapier wit, rapier.

00:42:00.170 --> 00:42:02.161
I thought maybe it was like a rapper,

00:42:02.161 --> 00:42:03.287
but rapier is a french word.

00:42:03.287 --> 00:42:05.765
Georgina, you'll be happy to know his rapier wit means

00:42:05.765 --> 00:42:10.028
in French, it means a fan, sharp pointed sword.

00:42:10.028 --> 00:42:11.607
Well, there you go.

00:42:11.607 --> 00:42:12.552
(laughing)

00:42:12.552 --> 00:42:15.354
Resolved that David Bradley be commended for his efforts

00:42:15.354 --> 00:42:17.899
to nurture and diversify the Permanent School Fund and

00:42:17.899 --> 00:42:19.903
bond guarantee program.

00:42:19.903 --> 00:42:22.287
And be it fully resolved that the State Board of Education

00:42:22.287 --> 00:42:25.446
expresses gratitude and thanks to him for his long

00:42:25.446 --> 00:42:28.501
service to the board, to district, and be it fairly

00:42:28.501 --> 00:42:30.907
resolved that the Board wishes David Bradley,

00:42:30.907 --> 00:42:31.824
nothing but

00:42:36.107 --> 00:42:39.149
fair winds and following seas

00:42:39.149 --> 00:42:40.569
in the years ahead.

00:42:40.569 --> 00:42:43.118
Witness our signatures this 16th day of November.

00:42:43.118 --> 00:42:44.590
Donna Bahorich, Chair.

00:42:44.590 --> 00:42:46.923
Ruben Cortez Jr., Secretary.

00:42:48.540 --> 00:42:50.790
(clapping)

00:43:04.744 --> 00:43:06.783
<v ->Well I guess I would stun everybody if I said I didn't</v>

00:43:06.783 --> 00:43:08.296
have anything to say.

00:43:08.296 --> 00:43:09.129
(laughing)

00:43:09.129 --> 00:43:11.695
Wanna introduce someone who did come.

00:43:11.695 --> 00:43:15.232
Closest thing to family that came to the meeting.

00:43:15.232 --> 00:43:17.640
Paula Richardson, would you stand?

00:43:17.640 --> 00:43:19.288
This is my sister.

00:43:19.288 --> 00:43:22.894
I hope you see the family resemblance.

00:43:22.894 --> 00:43:25.550
Paula is a third generation charter holder,

00:43:25.550 --> 00:43:29.633
but she has been a friend and part of our family.

00:43:30.805 --> 00:43:35.285
She attended my kids' weddings, and graduations,

00:43:35.285 --> 00:43:39.082
and she's just, she's Uncle Paula to my kids.

00:43:39.082 --> 00:43:40.653
Thank you Paula for coming.

00:43:40.653 --> 00:43:42.903
(clapping)

00:43:44.959 --> 00:43:46.976
I started this journey having absolutely no clue

00:43:46.976 --> 00:43:48.829
this is what I wanted to do.

00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:53.075
I was, took, got the political bug in Jefferson county

00:43:53.075 --> 00:43:56.138
and looked at a couple of local offices and my wife,

00:43:56.138 --> 00:43:58.663
who was probably more active than I,

00:43:58.663 --> 00:44:01.488
didn't take a great interest in some of my choices.

00:44:01.488 --> 00:44:03.205
She had been sitting in the living room for a couple

00:44:03.205 --> 00:44:05.682
of weeks trying to recruit someone to run

00:44:05.682 --> 00:44:08.895
for the State Board of Education.

00:44:08.895 --> 00:44:12.029
And they weren't having much success.

00:44:12.029 --> 00:44:14.981
And then finally in frustration, in trying to alleve

00:44:14.981 --> 00:44:18.615
her anguish, I asked her, well what is that job?

00:44:18.615 --> 00:44:19.854
(laughing)

00:44:19.854 --> 00:44:21.334
And she explained it to me.

00:44:21.334 --> 00:44:24.718
I got recruited by Donna Ballard, who probably sat

00:44:24.718 --> 00:44:27.565
in Barbara Cargill's seat.

00:44:27.565 --> 00:44:30.161
It was in the District just next to me and many,

00:44:30.161 --> 00:44:34.281
some of you may remember Donna Ballard, in red.

00:44:34.281 --> 00:44:37.700
She stood out and she was pretty fiery

00:44:37.700 --> 00:44:39.439
and she was pretty opinionated.

00:44:39.439 --> 00:44:40.515
And so she recruited me.

00:44:40.515 --> 00:44:41.348
I came on the Board.

00:44:41.348 --> 00:44:43.028
I didn't know a thing about charter schools.

00:44:43.028 --> 00:44:44.161
I didn't know, didn't even know

00:44:44.161 --> 00:44:45.518
Permanent School Fund existed.

00:44:45.518 --> 00:44:50.351
But I did know that textbooks were a passion for everyone.

00:44:53.583 --> 00:44:56.545
Anyway, first couple of meetings, everybody's very polite.

00:44:56.545 --> 00:44:59.317
Debbie I didn't know all those acronyms and I still don't

00:44:59.317 --> 00:45:01.176
recognize all the acronyms.

00:45:01.176 --> 00:45:04.448
It's a language that's foreign to the rest of the state.

00:45:04.448 --> 00:45:07.425
And everybody's very generous and I started to learn my

00:45:07.425 --> 00:45:10.169
way around the building and learn what everybody did.

00:45:10.169 --> 00:45:12.547
And during the meetings, we'd have testimony.

00:45:12.547 --> 00:45:15.616
And, but I really relied on Donna for leadership

00:45:15.616 --> 00:45:18.473
on a lot of the issues as I got up to speed.

00:45:18.473 --> 00:45:20.674
And two or three meetings, I'd look at Donna and go,

00:45:20.674 --> 00:45:22.924
what am I supposed to vote?

00:45:23.999 --> 00:45:25.080
She'd help.

00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:27.179
About my third meeting, I started to feel my oats

00:45:27.179 --> 00:45:29.088
a little bit.

00:45:29.088 --> 00:45:31.813
And I started asking questions of the testifier

00:45:31.813 --> 00:45:34.308
and I started asking questions at staff.

00:45:34.308 --> 00:45:35.585
And Donna looked over to me.

00:45:35.585 --> 00:45:37.338
She started to get a little irritated.

00:45:37.338 --> 00:45:39.452
She says you know you're gonna vote no.

00:45:39.452 --> 00:45:41.475
And I went, well they're making a good point.

00:45:41.475 --> 00:45:43.785
Mr. Rowley's real good about that.

00:45:43.785 --> 00:45:47.812
He'll probe a little bit to find out the true story.

00:45:47.812 --> 00:45:49.867
Well, it didn't get any better.

00:45:49.867 --> 00:45:52.440
And so finally, I said, I think I can support that.

00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.131
And she said, I'm telling you one last time,

00:45:54.131 --> 00:45:55.513
you're gonna vote no.

00:45:55.513 --> 00:45:56.513
(laughing)

00:45:56.513 --> 00:45:58.957
Well let me tell you about constituencies.

00:45:58.957 --> 00:46:01.665
Yeah, we represent about 1.4 million and it keeps getting

00:46:01.665 --> 00:46:03.136
a bigger number.

00:46:03.136 --> 00:46:05.087
I got one constituent.

00:46:05.087 --> 00:46:07.459
She leaned over and she says, alright, I've had enough.

00:46:07.459 --> 00:46:09.373
I'm calling Theona.

00:46:09.373 --> 00:46:10.206
My wife.

00:46:12.268 --> 00:46:13.101
I voted no.

00:46:13.101 --> 00:46:13.934
(laughing)

00:46:13.934 --> 00:46:14.767
'Cause I had to go home.

00:46:14.767 --> 00:46:17.748
(laughing)

00:46:17.748 --> 00:46:20.401
(mumbling)

00:46:20.401 --> 00:46:21.825
Dot, Donna Ballard.

00:46:21.825 --> 00:46:23.282
But anyway, alright.

00:46:23.282 --> 00:46:24.449
It's been fun.

00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:26.455
I've enjoyed it.

00:46:26.455 --> 00:46:29.054
And that's the message that I give to kids when I go

00:46:29.054 --> 00:46:31.281
to the graduation ceremonies like y'all do.

00:46:31.281 --> 00:46:34.682
Find something that you enjoy doing, do it well,

00:46:34.682 --> 00:46:36.713
and do it with a passion.

00:46:36.713 --> 00:46:40.359
And do it for the right reasons, and carry the message

00:46:40.359 --> 00:46:41.868
of Christ.

00:46:41.868 --> 00:46:43.303
And I appreciate y'all.

00:46:43.303 --> 00:46:44.749
Thank you.

00:46:44.749 --> 00:46:46.999
(clapping)

00:46:55.877 --> 00:46:58.185
<v Man>Madam Chair, a little personal privilege.</v>

00:46:58.185 --> 00:46:59.999
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, Paula, I believe you've got something</v>

00:46:59.999 --> 00:47:02.249
that you wanted to present.

00:47:09.409 --> 00:47:14.409
For those listening in, make sure you introduce yourselves.

00:47:14.557 --> 00:47:18.307
<v ->Good morning to all the members and guests.</v>

00:47:20.090 --> 00:47:21.923
My name is Paula Richardson.

00:47:21.923 --> 00:47:23.445
My name is Paula Richardson.

00:47:23.445 --> 00:47:26.612
I am the founder, CEO of Tekoa Academy

00:47:27.605 --> 00:47:29.040
of Accelerated Studies

00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:31.823
STEM School located in Port Arthur, Texas.

00:47:31.823 --> 00:47:34.942
And because of David Bradley and Bob Oltham.

00:47:34.942 --> 00:47:39.209
We were the first charter school in Port Arthur, Texas.

00:47:39.209 --> 00:47:43.204
And over the years, after meeting David

00:47:43.204 --> 00:47:46.898
and him finding out, I was one of two republicans

00:47:46.898 --> 00:47:48.731
in Port Arthur, Texas.

00:47:49.868 --> 00:47:54.368
We became very, very dear friends, brother and sister.

00:47:56.278 --> 00:47:58.488
It would be remiss for us not to be here,

00:47:58.488 --> 00:48:02.488
because David has just endeared us with so much.

00:48:04.988 --> 00:48:07.655
His time, his talent, his gifts,

00:48:08.546 --> 00:48:13.496
and what his Socratic method of conveying information

00:48:13.496 --> 00:48:15.803
may have been offensive to others,

00:48:15.803 --> 00:48:19.202
but it has given us the opportunity to think

00:48:19.202 --> 00:48:22.951
and that's what has been about, he just makes some little

00:48:22.951 --> 00:48:26.527
one statement sometime, and it resonates,

00:48:26.527 --> 00:48:28.508
and it makes me think.

00:48:28.508 --> 00:48:30.934
And we help one another think.

00:48:30.934 --> 00:48:34.249
And I remember one time, it was some elected officials

00:48:34.249 --> 00:48:35.742
in Port Arthur.

00:48:35.742 --> 00:48:38.727
I was Vice-President of the EDC Board during that time

00:48:38.727 --> 00:48:41.317
in Port Arthur and we were talking , and said,

00:48:41.317 --> 00:48:43.677
you know David Bradley,

00:48:43.677 --> 00:48:46.775
how do you get along with David Bradley?

00:48:46.775 --> 00:48:50.284
And they realized, oh, you're like a David Bradley.

00:48:50.284 --> 00:48:51.117
(laughing )

00:48:51.117 --> 00:48:53.197
So, that was great for me.

00:48:53.197 --> 00:48:55.589
So, at this moment, we just wanted to present something

00:48:55.589 --> 00:48:57.693
to you from the students.

00:48:57.693 --> 00:48:59.790
They wanted to give you something because to us,

00:48:59.790 --> 00:49:01.981
all of you, not just David, but because

00:49:01.981 --> 00:49:04.718
he is our representative.

00:49:04.718 --> 00:49:06.266
Has been a great friend.

00:49:06.266 --> 00:49:10.310
You represent every school district, every charter school,

00:49:10.310 --> 00:49:12.535
and thank you for being an advocate for us.

00:49:12.535 --> 00:49:14.296
Because we're doing charters,

00:49:14.296 --> 00:49:16.700
we want them to do great things.

00:49:16.700 --> 00:49:19.266
But our students wanted to give Uncle David

00:49:19.266 --> 00:49:20.995
something to remember.

00:49:20.995 --> 00:49:22.378
Thank you.

00:49:22.378 --> 00:49:24.672
<v David>What is it?</v>

00:49:24.672 --> 00:49:28.329
<v ->Good morning, on behalf of the students of Tekoa Academy,</v>

00:49:28.329 --> 00:49:31.798
our Art Department has created a State of Texas representing

00:49:31.798 --> 00:49:34.773
District 7, that you served so greatly throughout

00:49:34.773 --> 00:49:36.091
all these years.

00:49:36.091 --> 00:49:37.594
Congratulations and thank you.
<v ->Oh, how nice.</v>

00:49:37.594 --> 00:49:38.427
Thank you.

00:49:40.099 --> 00:49:42.516
<v Ms. Richardson>Thank you.</v>

00:49:50.165 --> 00:49:52.539
<v ->I believe Ms. Hardy, I think you're up.</v>

00:49:52.539 --> 00:49:53.372
<v Ms. Hardy>I thought I was gonna get an introduction.</v>

00:49:53.372 --> 00:49:57.372
(members chatting and giggling)

00:50:08.758 --> 00:50:10.441
<v ->Okay, the grande dame's</v>

00:50:10.441 --> 00:50:12.682
over here closer to me.

00:50:12.682 --> 00:50:16.901
Whereas, Governor Mark White could not have forseen the

00:50:16.901 --> 00:50:21.456
far reaching impact of his 1984 decision to appoint

00:50:21.456 --> 00:50:24.324
Dallas businesswoman and reading specialist

00:50:24.324 --> 00:50:27.282
to the State Board of Education would have had

00:50:27.282 --> 00:50:29.127
on public schools;

00:50:29.127 --> 00:50:33.349
and whereas, that appointment began Geraldine Tincy Miller's

00:50:33.349 --> 00:50:35.861
thirty-two years of dedicated service and leadership

00:50:35.861 --> 00:50:37.074
on the board;

00:50:37.074 --> 00:50:41.072
and whereas, the citizens of District 12 showed their faith

00:50:41.072 --> 00:50:45.822
by electing her to this office in 1988, 1992, 1996, 2002.

00:50:48.101 --> 00:50:53.101
2006, 2012, and 2014, gosh that's a lot (laughing),

00:50:53.536 --> 00:50:55.703
that's a lot of campaigning;

00:50:55.703 --> 00:50:58.320
whereas, during her tenure on the board, Mrs. Miller

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:01.161
has chaired the Committee on Instruction and served

00:51:01.161 --> 00:51:03.640
as Vice Chair and Chair of the Board;

00:51:03.640 --> 00:51:06.762
whereas, Ms. Miller's focus has always been on doing what

00:51:06.762 --> 00:51:08.655
is best for Texas children;

00:51:08.655 --> 00:51:10.588
and whereas she became a champion

00:51:10.588 --> 00:51:12.921
for phonics-based education.

00:51:14.751 --> 00:51:16.980
Mrs. Miller, has helped shaped every significant

00:51:16.980 --> 00:51:20.613
law and rule dealing with dyslexia-related disorders,

00:51:20.613 --> 00:51:23.429
for three decades and has been a driving force

00:51:23.429 --> 00:51:26.016
behind the dyslexia handbook;

00:51:26.016 --> 00:51:29.098
whereas, this dedicated public servant has been involved

00:51:29.098 --> 00:51:34.056
in the development of every generation state's curriculum,

00:51:34.056 --> 00:51:37.336
known as the Essential Elements, and now the Texas

00:51:37.336 --> 00:51:38.962
Essential Knowledge and Skills;

00:51:38.962 --> 00:51:42.410
whereas she took seriously her duty to provide high quality,

00:51:42.410 --> 00:51:44.571
error free textbooks;

00:51:44.571 --> 00:51:47.199
whereas, Mrs. Miller has passionately protected the

00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.523
Permanent School Fund, which she reminds us

00:51:51.523 --> 00:51:54.379
it's also known as the Children's Textbook Fund;

00:51:54.379 --> 00:51:57.006
and whereas, the Permanent School Fund has grown from

00:51:57.006 --> 00:52:01.756
4.5 billion in 1984 to 34 billion today under her careful

00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.902
and prudent stewardship;

00:52:04.902 --> 00:52:07.989
whereas, she has just as carefully nurtured the State Board

00:52:07.989 --> 00:52:09.166
of Education itself.

00:52:09.166 --> 00:52:11.251
Having personally underwritten the services

00:52:11.251 --> 00:52:14.074
of Professional Parliamentarian for several years and

00:52:14.074 --> 00:52:18.004
paid than her fair share for cookies, coffee, flowers,

00:52:18.004 --> 00:52:20.754
for Board Members over the years.

00:52:21.749 --> 00:52:25.771
We want to give you that resolution Mrs. Tincy Miller.

00:52:25.771 --> 00:52:29.319
And I will take a moment of personal privilege here.

00:52:29.319 --> 00:52:32.986
You know, Tincy is old school southern lady,

00:52:34.698 --> 00:52:38.567
and she could have been in the garden club all this time.

00:52:38.567 --> 00:52:41.216
She could have been doing a lot of things.

00:52:41.216 --> 00:52:43.062
Bridge, do you like bridge?

00:52:43.062 --> 00:52:43.895
I don't either.

00:52:43.895 --> 00:52:45.313
(laughing)

00:52:45.313 --> 00:52:49.495
But, she could have been doing that, and she chose

00:52:49.495 --> 00:52:52.569
to come down here and I mean some arduous nights.

00:52:52.569 --> 00:52:55.153
We were talking about there many nights we didn't get out

00:52:55.153 --> 00:52:58.349
of here 'til 11 and 12 o'clock at night and we're back

00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:01.665
the next morning to start working on different things.

00:53:01.665 --> 00:53:05.601
And I think that is a remarkable thing in and of itself.

00:53:05.601 --> 00:53:10.426
And then to take her personal fight for dyslexia

00:53:10.426 --> 00:53:11.854
to the state.

00:53:11.854 --> 00:53:14.728
To the state, she's won this battle.

00:53:14.728 --> 00:53:17.995
And I have a younger brother, who has since passed.

00:53:17.995 --> 00:53:21.795
But who had dyslexia, so I understand her passion

00:53:21.795 --> 00:53:24.421
for that one area, that was just so overlooked

00:53:24.421 --> 00:53:26.475
for so many years.

00:53:26.475 --> 00:53:28.671
Phonics, oh my gosh,

00:53:28.671 --> 00:53:31.516
I can almost do her impersonation of the story.

00:53:31.516 --> 00:53:33.125
(laughing)

00:53:33.125 --> 00:53:33.958
I won't.

00:53:33.958 --> 00:53:36.635
I'll spare you, but the fact is, we will not forget

00:53:36.635 --> 00:53:38.202
the importance of phonics.

00:53:38.202 --> 00:53:39.497
I promise you Tincy.

00:53:39.497 --> 00:53:41.543
As long as I am here and I think as long as

00:53:41.543 --> 00:53:42.867
many of these people are here,

00:53:42.867 --> 00:53:44.371
we will remember the phonics.

00:53:44.371 --> 00:53:46.904
But there is just so many things that she

00:53:46.904 --> 00:53:48.139
could have been doing

00:53:48.139 --> 00:53:52.752
that were that of a very gracious southern lady,

00:53:52.752 --> 00:53:54.542
but she chose to come down here and do battle

00:53:54.542 --> 00:53:55.701
with all of us.

00:53:55.701 --> 00:53:58.411
And for that, I will be eternally grateful.

00:53:58.411 --> 00:53:59.673
Thank you.

00:53:59.673 --> 00:54:01.923
(clapping)

00:54:13.545 --> 00:54:15.799
Mrs. Miller, also from the Governor,

00:54:15.799 --> 00:54:18.993
we have a Yellow Rose of Texas.

00:54:18.993 --> 00:54:20.664
Under the laws of the state of Texas,

00:54:20.664 --> 00:54:22.530
with all rights and privileges,

00:54:22.530 --> 00:54:26.120
and emoluments appertaining to said office.

00:54:26.120 --> 00:54:29.417
In testimony, I have signed my name and caused the

00:54:29.417 --> 00:54:32.066
Seal of Texas to be affixed on the city of Austin,

00:54:32.066 --> 00:54:35.234
this day, in September 24, 2018.

00:54:35.234 --> 00:54:36.906
And this is from Greg Abbot.

00:54:36.906 --> 00:54:38.547
The Yellow Rose of Texas.

00:54:38.547 --> 00:54:41.270
So, oh I gave you, that's the Yellow Rose.

00:54:41.270 --> 00:54:42.911
Yeah, yeah.

00:54:42.911 --> 00:54:43.744
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:54:44.821 --> 00:54:47.336
<v ->So, thank you very much.</v>

00:54:47.336 --> 00:54:48.336
<v ->Thank you.</v>

00:54:51.417 --> 00:54:53.627
<v ->I'll stand here and make sure this stays on.</v>

00:54:53.627 --> 00:54:55.667
(laughing)

00:54:55.667 --> 00:54:58.053
<v ->Oh, man, it's one thing you all I wanna say.</v>

00:54:58.053 --> 00:55:00.414
I told you yesterday Donna, y'all get a new one,

00:55:00.414 --> 00:55:03.311
get new ones, okay. (laughing)

00:55:03.311 --> 00:55:04.144
Woo.

00:55:07.715 --> 00:55:10.677
First I have mixed emotions obviously about leaving,

00:55:10.677 --> 00:55:11.844
but it's time.

00:55:13.814 --> 00:55:17.731
And I have a wonderful lady that has stepped in

00:55:19.780 --> 00:55:23.434
at just the right time, Pam Little.

00:55:23.434 --> 00:55:24.934
Pam, where are ya?

00:55:26.124 --> 00:55:27.153
There she is.

00:55:27.153 --> 00:55:28.156
So, she's gonna be--

00:55:28.156 --> 00:55:30.734
(clapping)

00:55:30.734 --> 00:55:33.068
taking the baton, if you will, and moving forward.

00:55:33.068 --> 00:55:37.248
She and I think a lot alike and so she's gonna make sure.

00:55:37.248 --> 00:55:42.248
I just didn't want all the effort that, of the dyslexia law,

00:55:43.132 --> 00:55:46.466
as both the phonics, to unravel.

00:55:46.466 --> 00:55:48.049
And it can do that.

00:55:48.906 --> 00:55:53.406
So, let me just briefly tell you that this is the book

00:55:57.867 --> 00:56:00.200
that we worked on to update.

00:56:03.309 --> 00:56:04.655
Where is the front page?

00:56:04.655 --> 00:56:06.946
Anyway, whatever, oh, here it is.

00:56:06.946 --> 00:56:08.779
And Monica, thank you.

00:56:09.853 --> 00:56:14.186
Shelly, thank you from the bottom of my heart, okay.

00:56:15.447 --> 00:56:20.197
Y'all just don't know how much love and happiness, tears,

00:56:21.470 --> 00:56:25.888
a lot of things went into this book and I wanna thank

00:56:25.888 --> 00:56:28.638
everyone for their participation.

00:56:29.876 --> 00:56:34.490
When Monica came to me yesterday, I think it was yesterday,

00:56:34.490 --> 00:56:36.489
but and he gave me the book and he said,

00:56:36.489 --> 00:56:39.331
here's the first one, hot off the press.

00:56:39.331 --> 00:56:42.833
So, I'm just so, so, proud to be able to walk away

00:56:42.833 --> 00:56:44.457
from it.

00:56:44.457 --> 00:56:47.317
This route, knowing that this wonderful product is here

00:56:47.317 --> 00:56:48.900
for people to help.

00:56:50.584 --> 00:56:54.251
I will end with this deal, if I can find it,

00:56:56.075 --> 00:56:57.325
I just lost it.

00:56:59.492 --> 00:57:03.075
I didn't realize all this was gonna happen.

00:57:04.099 --> 00:57:06.599
Back in the 80's, early 80's,

00:57:09.078 --> 00:57:11.973
our kids were leaving the nest.

00:57:11.973 --> 00:57:15.266
And my precious husband Vance, said to me one night,

00:57:15.266 --> 00:57:17.818
he said, what do you wanna do with the rest

00:57:17.818 --> 00:57:19.401
of your life Tincy?

00:57:20.318 --> 00:57:23.567
And you know what I said, I have a dream.

00:57:23.567 --> 00:57:26.935
I would look like to be on this new State Board of Education

00:57:26.935 --> 00:57:30.969
and just maybe I could make a difference for more kids

00:57:30.969 --> 00:57:35.386
than the ones that I had been working with in Dallas.

00:57:36.406 --> 00:57:41.366
I trained and taught at Texas Scottish Rite Hospital

00:57:41.366 --> 00:57:44.238
and Dr. Luke Waite, who is no longer with us,

00:57:44.238 --> 00:57:46.571
was the most incredible leader.

00:57:46.571 --> 00:57:49.571
(audio cutting out)

00:57:50.635 --> 00:57:52.313
He was just terrific.

00:57:52.313 --> 00:57:57.313
So Vance said to me, he, kind of with a twinkle in his eyes,

00:57:57.905 --> 00:58:01.310
said well, who knows, let's see what happens.

00:58:01.310 --> 00:58:04.893
Well I had no idea what I was getting into,

00:58:07.657 --> 00:58:10.407
and so lo and behold, I ended up

00:58:12.929 --> 00:58:16.096
being on the State Board of Education.

00:58:16.944 --> 00:58:19.873
I won't go into the long detail, because it was

00:58:19.873 --> 00:58:22.040
a Democrat Governor, okay,

00:58:24.414 --> 00:58:27.169
who did not want me, okay.

00:58:27.169 --> 00:58:31.669
So, anyway, but we ended up being great friends, okay.

00:58:33.730 --> 00:58:34.563
Great guy.

00:58:36.024 --> 00:58:39.441
So, I got on the Board in January of '85.

00:58:43.511 --> 00:58:48.261
Three bills on dyslexia crossed my desk, and I knew then,

00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:51.647
I had found my true north.

00:58:52.712 --> 00:58:56.779
And I hit the ground running and I didn't stop since.

00:58:56.779 --> 00:59:00.345
And I told y'all a story, the other day,

00:59:00.345 --> 00:59:04.512
when this special ed teacher bawled me out in 1985

00:59:05.624 --> 00:59:06.732
for the law.

00:59:06.732 --> 00:59:09.732
(audio cutting out)

00:59:12.056 --> 00:59:15.428
And that's when he said, well when you leave the Board,

00:59:15.428 --> 00:59:17.586
it'll be repealed.

00:59:17.586 --> 00:59:18.419
And that's,

00:59:18.419 --> 00:59:20.145
(audio cutting out)

00:59:20.145 --> 00:59:21.058
we made it.

00:59:21.058 --> 00:59:22.668
(laughing)

00:59:22.668 --> 00:59:26.138
I said, well I'm not leaving, okay.

00:59:26.138 --> 00:59:28.713
So, with that, I just want to tell you that it's

00:59:28.713 --> 00:59:32.344
Robert Frost's famous poem, when he said,

00:59:32.344 --> 00:59:36.328
"two roads diverged in split forest and I took the one

00:59:36.328 --> 00:59:40.483
"less traveled by and that has made all the difference."

00:59:40.483 --> 00:59:42.571
God bless each one of you all.

00:59:42.571 --> 00:59:44.192
I wish you all the best.

00:59:44.192 --> 00:59:46.297
Keep fighting for those kids, all the way.

00:59:46.297 --> 00:59:48.547
(clapping)

01:00:08.549 --> 01:00:11.956
<v ->The first quote that was ever given by anybody of</v>

01:00:11.956 --> 01:00:14.417
the State Board of Education about me came from Mrs. Miller.

01:00:14.417 --> 01:00:16.978
And she said, "I really like her because she really

01:00:16.978 --> 01:00:19.241
"knows that Spanish stuff."

01:00:19.241 --> 01:00:20.171
(laughing)

01:00:20.171 --> 01:00:23.049
And I thought was a great compliment coming from somebody

01:00:23.049 --> 01:00:25.102
that, one, I did not know.

01:00:25.102 --> 01:00:27.958
It was my first meeting, I didn't, had no idea

01:00:27.958 --> 01:00:31.455
what I was doing except I knew what I wanted to do.

01:00:31.455 --> 01:00:35.705
But because of your life, long work, with dyslexia,

01:00:38.165 --> 01:00:42.582
we now have an incredible publisher who has committed

01:00:43.859 --> 01:00:48.859
to developing the first diagnostic and intervention tools

01:00:49.014 --> 01:00:53.160
and lessons for our Spanish speaking English learners.

01:00:53.160 --> 01:00:56.303
And it's not just the first in Texas, it is the first

01:00:56.303 --> 01:00:59.157
in the nation, so thank you for opening this door.

01:00:59.157 --> 01:01:01.089
<v ->You're welcome.</v>

01:01:01.089 --> 01:01:01.922
Thank you.

01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:06.050
(clapping)

01:01:07.229 --> 01:01:09.292
<v ->I failed to tell you that the new dyslexia book</v>

01:01:09.292 --> 01:01:12.291
we decided yesterday, is gonna be dedicated to Tincy Miller.

01:01:12.291 --> 01:01:15.703
So, that's another nice honor that we're so glad to bestow

01:01:15.703 --> 01:01:16.536
upon her.

01:01:18.888 --> 01:01:21.897
(clapping)

01:01:21.897 --> 01:01:26.064
<v ->Okay, one more presentation, and this is just a,</v>

01:01:27.430 --> 01:01:29.780
this is a changing of an era.

01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:31.781
That's why we're making a big deal out of this,

01:01:31.781 --> 01:01:33.488
because this truly is changing year.

01:01:33.488 --> 01:01:35.454
<v ->It seems like it takes longer to leave than to get here.</v>

01:01:35.454 --> 01:01:37.704
(laughing)

01:01:39.216 --> 01:01:44.216
One of the things that you, and a lot of people kind of,

01:01:44.279 --> 01:01:45.612
kind of look at this well the history's kind

01:01:45.612 --> 01:01:46.445
of an important thing.

01:01:46.445 --> 01:01:48.466
And one of the things is that, that you find,

01:01:48.466 --> 01:01:51.448
is that when you begin to dig through the journals

01:01:51.448 --> 01:01:54.339
and the annals of state history, and that sort of thing

01:01:54.339 --> 01:01:56.497
is that there are a lot of people

01:01:56.497 --> 01:02:00.191
who came before us that did their part,

01:02:00.191 --> 01:02:03.220
that did something to make things better.

01:02:03.220 --> 01:02:05.536
And everyday the work that we do, we stand

01:02:05.536 --> 01:02:07.485
on their shoulders.

01:02:07.485 --> 01:02:09.237
And you look around and you look at the pictures

01:02:09.237 --> 01:02:12.563
around this room, and the pictures in this room,

01:02:12.563 --> 01:02:15.874
remind us of those who have gone before us.

01:02:15.874 --> 01:02:20.008
And have made their contribution to the State of Texas.

01:02:20.008 --> 01:02:23.499
And the challenge is all of us, to do our part

01:02:23.499 --> 01:02:26.024
while we're here and to have that sense of urgency

01:02:26.024 --> 01:02:27.993
about the work that we have.

01:02:27.993 --> 01:02:32.440
One of the customs, that has been a long standing custom,

01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.121
is to present flags that have been flown over the capital

01:02:36.121 --> 01:02:39.580
in honor of those who have done extraordinary things.

01:02:39.580 --> 01:02:42.495
Now Barbara asked me this morning and I said well,

01:02:42.495 --> 01:02:45.021
what's the history behind that custom, I don't know.

01:02:45.021 --> 01:02:48.174
And so I called the Executive Director

01:02:48.174 --> 01:02:50.732
of the Preservation Board this morning and he said, hey,

01:02:50.732 --> 01:02:51.998
he didn't know that either.

01:02:51.998 --> 01:02:54.489
So, we're gonna find out, but in the meantime,

01:02:54.489 --> 01:02:57.911
it's our pleasure to present this flag,

01:02:57.911 --> 01:02:59.658
flown over the Texas Capital,

01:02:59.658 --> 01:03:02.717
presented by Senator Jane Nelson,

01:03:02.717 --> 01:03:07.384
who is a former member of this body, to Ms. Tincy Miller.

01:03:08.411 --> 01:03:11.987
What it says on here and I know, all three of you

01:03:11.987 --> 01:03:15.283
are sentimental, so to think that there's been a flag

01:03:15.283 --> 01:03:17.456
flown over the Capital, that you've served.

01:03:17.456 --> 01:03:19.745
And this one was flown on November 12th,

01:03:19.745 --> 01:03:23.086
above the State Capital of the sovereign State of Texas.

01:03:23.086 --> 01:03:25.141
<v ->Awe, alright great.</v>

01:03:25.141 --> 01:03:26.317
Thank you.

01:03:26.317 --> 01:03:27.734
<v ->You're welcome.</v>

01:03:28.721 --> 01:03:30.945
<v ->So, we need the other two to come up.</v>

01:03:30.945 --> 01:03:31.778
Erica.

01:03:31.778 --> 01:03:33.476
<v ->And David, David needs to come on back.</v>

01:03:33.476 --> 01:03:35.691
<v ->While they're coming up, I wanna read the dedication</v>

01:03:35.691 --> 01:03:38.297
in the Dylsexia Handbook will say,

01:03:38.297 --> 01:03:40.547
the 2018 Dyslexia Handbook,

01:03:42.447 --> 01:03:44.123
Procedures Concerning Dyslexia

01:03:44.123 --> 01:03:46.308
and Related Disorders, is dedicated in the honor

01:03:46.308 --> 01:03:48.414
of Geraldine Tincy Miller,

01:03:48.414 --> 01:03:51.063
in recognition of her tireless work on behalf of all

01:03:51.063 --> 01:03:53.707
the Texas children with dyslexia.

01:03:53.707 --> 01:03:54.540
<v ->Thank you.</v>

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<v ->That's sweet.</v>

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I like that.

01:03:56.673 --> 01:03:58.808
<v ->Right over here, to get a picture of us.</v>

01:03:58.808 --> 01:04:00.277
<v ->Kind of have this.</v>

01:04:00.277 --> 01:04:03.224
<v ->Erica, we have a flag flown by Senator Royce West.</v>

01:04:03.224 --> 01:04:04.057
On behalf--

01:04:04.057 --> 01:04:04.890
<v ->For me?</v>

01:04:04.890 --> 01:04:06.557
<v ->Ms. Erica Beltran.</v>

01:04:09.243 --> 01:04:11.709
<v ->We're gonna miss those quips.</v>

01:04:11.709 --> 01:04:12.542
<v ->And Senator.</v>

01:04:12.542 --> 01:04:16.209
<v ->Brandon Creighton for you, so there we go.</v>

01:04:19.901 --> 01:04:20.734
<v ->Tincy, come here.</v>

01:04:20.734 --> 01:04:21.567
<v ->Oh gosh.</v>

01:04:22.772 --> 01:04:25.805
<v ->Tincy and I have gotten to be really close friends</v>

01:04:25.805 --> 01:04:28.305
and privately, I call her mom.

01:04:29.522 --> 01:04:33.643
But I want you to tell a quick story, where did you get the

01:04:33.643 --> 01:04:36.797
name, Geraldine, where did you get the name Tincy?

01:04:36.797 --> 01:04:38.630
<v ->Oh gosh, oh alright.</v>

01:04:40.867 --> 01:04:44.200
I was the youngest of three girls, okay.

01:04:45.169 --> 01:04:48.086
And mom and dad, could not think of

01:04:50.051 --> 01:04:51.653
a name for me,

01:04:51.653 --> 01:04:54.944
because they had hoped for a boy.

01:04:54.944 --> 01:04:57.611
So, back in the old days, David.

01:05:00.777 --> 01:05:04.820
You could leave the hospital without naming your babies.

01:05:04.820 --> 01:05:07.280
And that's how family nicknames popped up.

01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.660
Because sometimes they would wait months,

01:05:09.660 --> 01:05:14.393
maybe a year or so, and finally, they'd lay a name on you.

01:05:14.393 --> 01:05:17.218
Well, I don't know where mother, I asked mother,

01:05:17.218 --> 01:05:19.915
where in the world she got Geraldine, and she said,

01:05:19.915 --> 01:05:24.915
well, it's just a good southern name, Tincy. (laughing)

01:05:25.592 --> 01:05:30.342
Anyway, so, with three girls and we're very close in age.

01:05:32.268 --> 01:05:36.899
They would say, the person helping mother with us,

01:05:36.899 --> 01:05:39.566
would say, which baby do I feed?

01:05:40.591 --> 01:05:44.121
And she'd say the tincy baby, okay.

01:05:44.121 --> 01:05:49.121
Alright, then I get to school and I did not want anybody

01:05:49.575 --> 01:05:54.084
to know that I had a nickname, like Tincy, okay.

01:05:54.084 --> 01:05:57.778
But I didn't like the name Geraldine either.

01:05:57.778 --> 01:06:00.883
So, and because when I grew up World War II

01:06:00.883 --> 01:06:02.526
was going on you all.

01:06:02.526 --> 01:06:05.669
And guess what the Germans were called,

01:06:05.669 --> 01:06:07.362
you're a dirty Jerry.

01:06:07.362 --> 01:06:09.617
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:06:09.617 --> 01:06:12.534
So, I was fighting, I was a tomboy.

01:06:13.891 --> 01:06:16.422
I fought everybody on the block because they would tease

01:06:16.422 --> 01:06:17.922
me about it, name.

01:06:18.794 --> 01:06:23.294
So, anyway, I get to school and the lady, the teacher,

01:06:24.611 --> 01:06:28.546
would say, now, Geraldine, do you have a shorter name.

01:06:28.546 --> 01:06:30.129
No ma'am, I do not.

01:06:31.833 --> 01:06:33.904
So someone in the back of the room, would say,

01:06:33.904 --> 01:06:36.131
ah, call her Tincy, everybody else does.

01:06:36.131 --> 01:06:37.419
(laughing)

01:06:37.419 --> 01:06:41.088
So, that David, you all, that's how I got the name, alright.

01:06:41.088 --> 01:06:44.877
And I finally just accepted it. (laughing)

01:06:44.877 --> 01:06:47.127
(clapping)

01:06:49.172 --> 01:06:52.089
(members chatting)

01:07:05.787 --> 01:07:06.815
<v ->I wanna make sure.</v>

01:07:06.815 --> 01:07:08.612
Are there any other family members,

01:07:08.612 --> 01:07:11.029
I know we recognized Erica's.

01:07:13.094 --> 01:07:17.190
Okay, I just wanna make sure, we didn't miss anybody.

01:07:17.190 --> 01:07:20.158
Alright, we have individual testimony,

01:07:20.158 --> 01:07:24.658
a couple of testifiers that have signed up to testify.

01:07:27.674 --> 01:07:31.096
And you'll have three minutes for testimony,

01:07:31.096 --> 01:07:34.560
and you will hear a bell 30 seconds before the end

01:07:34.560 --> 01:07:36.049
of that three minutes.

01:07:36.049 --> 01:07:38.707
Which means, you've got that thirty seconds left,

01:07:38.707 --> 01:07:41.557
and then when you hear the second chime, which will be

01:07:41.557 --> 01:07:44.684
actually two bells, then you know to wrap up your thought.

01:07:44.684 --> 01:07:47.517
And then they'll be any questions.

01:07:49.349 --> 01:07:51.682
<v Woman>Jeanette LaFevers.</v>

01:07:55.627 --> 01:07:59.555
<v ->If you'll bring any handouts to us right here</v>

01:07:59.555 --> 01:08:02.722
in the corner here, that will help us.

01:08:13.969 --> 01:08:15.583
Go ahead and hit it again.

01:08:15.583 --> 01:08:16.756
<v Woman>Okay, there we go.</v>

01:08:16.756 --> 01:08:18.804
<v ->Good morning, thank you for giving me the opportunity</v>

01:08:18.804 --> 01:08:20.746
to speak this morning.

01:08:20.746 --> 01:08:24.829
I know you kind of think I'm a permanent fixture.

01:08:26.047 --> 01:08:30.326
I do want to thank the Board and the TEA Staff

01:08:30.326 --> 01:08:33.101
for the work that has been done.

01:08:33.101 --> 01:08:35.376
And as we move forward, we want to just make sure

01:08:35.376 --> 01:08:38.851
that we do this right and we cover everything that needs

01:08:38.851 --> 01:08:40.262
to be covered.

01:08:40.262 --> 01:08:43.921
So, we took some time to reflect and to look

01:08:43.921 --> 01:08:46.921
at any other issues that we might have

01:08:46.921 --> 01:08:50.074
so that this Board can consider action on them

01:08:50.074 --> 01:08:52.185
at a later date.

01:08:52.185 --> 01:08:54.761
Some of these I know, are already scheduled for the

01:08:54.761 --> 01:08:57.682
January meeting, but we wanted to put them on there,

01:08:57.682 --> 01:08:59.992
just so that they're fresh on your mind.

01:08:59.992 --> 01:09:03.193
The first two, are the most important, and I believe that

01:09:03.193 --> 01:09:06.208
they're going to be addressed during the January meeting.

01:09:06.208 --> 01:09:10.731
But, number one is especially important to us.

01:09:10.731 --> 01:09:13.982
The way the rule text currently reads,

01:09:13.982 --> 01:09:18.960
IB students can only receive the foundation diploma

01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.185
by taking a fifth year of English.

01:09:22.185 --> 01:09:26.697
Considering, that these students, with the passage

01:09:26.697 --> 01:09:30.225
House Bill or Senate Bill 111,

01:09:30.225 --> 01:09:32.905
these students are granted 24 college credit hours,

01:09:32.905 --> 01:09:37.411
so they actually receive college credit in English

01:09:37.411 --> 01:09:41.016
and I cannot see us having kids not being able to graduate

01:09:41.016 --> 01:09:44.919
from High School because they've taken IB courses.

01:09:44.919 --> 01:09:48.919
So, it's important that we correct this language

01:09:49.807 --> 01:09:54.153
so that it does not negatively impact the students

01:09:54.153 --> 01:09:59.153
who are already taking, doing more than most students do.

01:09:59.245 --> 01:10:02.464
In terms of endorsements, it's a similar situation

01:10:02.464 --> 01:10:05.605
where most of the endorsements would be,

01:10:05.605 --> 01:10:08.176
(audio cutting out)

01:10:08.176 --> 01:10:11.085
it would be difficult to IB students to earn 'em

01:10:11.085 --> 01:10:14.396
and so we're encouraging you to take a look at that language

01:10:14.396 --> 01:10:17.396
and do take some corrective actions.

01:10:18.601 --> 01:10:22.583
The third item, I believe today you're gonna consider,

01:10:22.583 --> 01:10:27.099
the IB Film, but there are four other arts courses

01:10:27.099 --> 01:10:29.518
that have not been addressed.

01:10:29.518 --> 01:10:32.478
And so we would encourage you to take a look at them

01:10:32.478 --> 01:10:34.668
in the future also.

01:10:34.668 --> 01:10:37.339
The other thing, the fourth item, I believe

01:10:37.339 --> 01:10:40.796
is probably not a non-issue, and that was,

01:10:40.796 --> 01:10:43.731
we asked for the two of the IB courses, Theory of Knowledge

01:10:43.731 --> 01:10:46.485
and Business Management, to be placed

01:10:46.485 --> 01:10:48.674
as in the innovative course, and I believe

01:10:48.674 --> 01:10:51.665
they have been approved, but they do not appear in the list,

01:10:51.665 --> 01:10:53.374
that I can find.

01:10:53.374 --> 01:10:55.564
I may just not know where to find them.

01:10:55.564 --> 01:10:58.607
And finally, we want to make sure that there is a smooth

01:10:58.607 --> 01:11:03.607
process for us to reflect changes, in course names,

01:11:03.612 --> 01:11:08.029
or deleted courses, or courses that, new courses that

01:11:08.875 --> 01:11:11.954
are created by the IB, so that we can update the rule text

01:11:11.954 --> 01:11:16.954
and the tables, so that schools have the correct information

01:11:17.784 --> 01:11:18.867
to work from.

01:11:19.812 --> 01:11:21.627
So, this is just for you to consider.

01:11:21.627 --> 01:11:22.460
Thank you.

01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.850
<v ->Any questions of Jeanette?</v>

01:11:28.126 --> 01:11:30.644
Thank you for putting a list together of exactly

01:11:30.644 --> 01:11:32.834
what the concerns are, that are lingering.

01:11:32.834 --> 01:11:34.733
I really appreciate it, 'cause this is pretty concise.

01:11:34.733 --> 01:11:35.974
<v Jeanette>Okay, great, thank you.</v>

01:11:35.974 --> 01:11:38.273
<v Ms. Bahorich>Thank you.</v>

01:11:38.273 --> 01:11:40.606
<v Woman>Christine Brogell.</v>

01:11:44.147 --> 01:11:47.147
(audio cutting out)

01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:11.027
<v ->Okay, members, we've had a request from the Publisher,</v>

01:12:11.027 --> 01:12:14.586
TP, I'm gonna get this name right, TPS Publishing,

01:12:14.586 --> 01:12:15.837
is that correct?

01:12:15.837 --> 01:12:19.530
TPS Publishing that has asked to give testimony.

01:12:19.530 --> 01:12:24.113
And as you know, our rules say that you cannot do that,

01:12:24.981 --> 01:12:28.985
you cannot give, we don't take public testimony on items

01:12:28.985 --> 01:12:31.510
that we are considering on Friday 'cause of course

01:12:31.510 --> 01:12:32.510
we've taken,

01:12:36.025 --> 01:12:38.732
we've taken testimony earlier in the week.

01:12:38.732 --> 01:12:40.951
And so we don't take testimony on Fridays, on things that

01:12:40.951 --> 01:12:43.988
are before the Board, that are actually on the agenda.

01:12:43.988 --> 01:12:45.602
However, there's an ability,

01:12:45.602 --> 01:12:48.302
should the majority of the Board choose to,

01:12:48.302 --> 01:12:50.635
to decide to hear from them.

01:12:52.196 --> 01:12:54.616
And so I wanted to put that before the body,

01:12:54.616 --> 01:12:58.388
just so you know that that request has been made.

01:12:58.388 --> 01:12:59.834
Mr. Rowley.

01:12:59.834 --> 01:13:01.964
<v Mr. Rowley>Madame Chair, I move that we allow them</v>

01:13:01.964 --> 01:13:05.363
to ahead and give the testimony on a three minute basis.

01:13:05.363 --> 01:13:06.834
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:13:06.834 --> 01:13:08.438
<v Woman>Second.</v>

01:13:08.438 --> 01:13:11.919
<v ->Okay, alright, so this would take a majority of vote</v>

01:13:11.919 --> 01:13:14.275
and we do not have, do we have even a quorum

01:13:14.275 --> 01:13:16.442
in here right this second?

01:13:19.709 --> 01:13:23.037
Okay, so it just takes a majority vote to let them go ahead

01:13:23.037 --> 01:13:24.513
and speak.

01:13:24.513 --> 01:13:29.013
All those in favor of them speaking, raise your hands.

01:13:32.066 --> 01:13:32.965
A clear majority.

01:13:32.965 --> 01:13:35.480
Okay, alright, you'll be, again,

01:13:35.480 --> 01:13:36.684
(mumbling)

01:13:36.684 --> 01:13:38.320
Oh yes, I didn't ask for the negative.

01:13:38.320 --> 01:13:41.565
All those opposed to them speaking raise your hands.

01:13:41.565 --> 01:13:45.062
Seeing none, the permission is granted for that testimony.

01:13:45.062 --> 01:13:46.476
It will be three minutes.

01:13:46.476 --> 01:13:49.662
And again, you'll hear the first bell will be.

01:13:49.662 --> 01:13:51.577
Are they here?

01:13:51.577 --> 01:13:52.994
This person here?

01:13:55.467 --> 01:13:57.139
<v Woman>Here she comes, over here.</v>

01:13:57.139 --> 01:13:58.492
Oh, okay.

01:13:58.492 --> 01:14:01.265
You'll have three minutes, and then you'll hear,

01:14:01.265 --> 01:14:03.627
30 seconds, you'll hear one bell,

01:14:03.627 --> 01:14:05.153
when you have 30 seconds left.

01:14:05.153 --> 01:14:08.461
And then two bells at that end of that.

01:14:08.461 --> 01:14:09.828
It means to wrap up your final thoughts

01:14:09.828 --> 01:14:13.328
and then the members might have questions.

01:14:17.490 --> 01:14:20.854
<v ->Thank you for hearing our testimony today.</v>

01:14:20.854 --> 01:14:25.375
TPS Council believes that you were given a misrepresented

01:14:25.375 --> 01:14:28.058
set of data yesterday, or Wednesday,

01:14:28.058 --> 01:14:30.983
when you passed a motion to fail our programs,

01:14:30.983 --> 01:14:34.884
which were 100%, K-8, both programs.

01:14:34.884 --> 01:14:39.717
The reason is that you were comparing 51 pages of Eduspark

01:14:41.407 --> 01:14:43.157
edits to 508 for TPS.

01:14:45.152 --> 01:14:48.751
I would have rejected us too, but for the fact,

01:14:48.751 --> 01:14:52.852
that you weren't told that Eduspark had four submissions.

01:14:52.852 --> 01:14:54.769
TPS had 72 submissions.

01:14:56.254 --> 01:15:00.837
Of those 72 submissions, 54 of those had to have edits

01:15:01.687 --> 01:15:03.644
files put forward, because we have offer

01:15:03.644 --> 01:15:08.616
the school districts the ability to buy multiple formats.

01:15:08.616 --> 01:15:10.240
We are all teacher writers,

01:15:10.240 --> 01:15:12.084
we work Illinois State University

01:15:12.084 --> 01:15:15.046
and we provide STEM programs.

01:15:15.046 --> 01:15:20.017
So, if you look at the edits ranked per average submission,

01:15:20.017 --> 01:15:22.934
theirs is 12.75, ours is only 9.41.

01:15:25.292 --> 01:15:29.689
In addition, for every student edit that we have,

01:15:29.689 --> 01:15:32.722
we have twelve line entries.

01:15:32.722 --> 01:15:37.039
So, when you look at 975 pages of TPS edits,

01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:38.425
that sounds horrific.

01:15:38.425 --> 01:15:42.034
What wasn't explained to you is you have to divide that

01:15:42.034 --> 01:15:47.034
by 12, which comes down to 81.25, if my math is right.

01:15:47.326 --> 01:15:50.859
And then you divide that by 54 submission,

01:15:50.859 --> 01:15:54.898
we're actually at 1.5 pages per submission.

01:15:54.898 --> 01:15:58.521
The reason, is that if there is an edit to be made

01:15:58.521 --> 01:16:01.320
in the student textbook, that edit automatically

01:16:01.320 --> 01:16:04.064
has to be made both in the print program,

01:16:04.064 --> 01:16:06.682
the print with digital, the digital,

01:16:06.682 --> 01:16:09.310
they're automatically in the teacher book

01:16:09.310 --> 01:16:11.120
as well as the student book.

01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:12.726
And we provide two programs:

01:16:12.726 --> 01:16:16.961
a gentle transition for STEM programs and a very forceful

01:16:16.961 --> 01:16:18.899
whole STEM offering.

01:16:18.899 --> 01:16:23.089
And basically, one program is entirely in the other.

01:16:23.089 --> 01:16:27.610
So, that means that one edit, shows as twelve line entries,

01:16:27.610 --> 01:16:30.294
so when you look to our edits, you were thinking

01:16:30.294 --> 01:16:34.294
we had 6,700 unique edits, we actually have 858.

01:16:37.434 --> 01:16:42.101
It's less than HMH, it's less than EduSpark, and I think

01:16:43.934 --> 01:16:47.065
we didn't get the data down, it would be less than Zaynar?

01:16:47.065 --> 01:16:49.753
You can't compare apples and pears.

01:16:49.753 --> 01:16:52.503
We have 72 submissions, not four.

01:16:53.806 --> 01:16:57.032
So, when you were looking at the data, it came across

01:16:57.032 --> 01:17:01.129
as if you were looking at the same data.

01:17:01.129 --> 01:17:04.641
And they had 51, we had 508, that is not correct.

01:17:04.641 --> 01:17:06.735
It's a total misrepresentation.

01:17:06.735 --> 01:17:10.275
We have a 100% K-8, we're a STEM provider,

01:17:10.275 --> 01:17:12.309
so your students, who are far below grade,

01:17:12.309 --> 01:17:14.890
we live in Killeen, Texas, we have a lot

01:17:14.890 --> 01:17:16.065
of below grade students.

01:17:16.065 --> 01:17:18.607
They need STEM to be able to conquer.

01:17:18.607 --> 01:17:21.536
There is research based, Illinois State University

01:17:21.536 --> 01:17:23.207
of research, is over 20 years.

01:17:23.207 --> 01:17:26.374
Please put our programs onto the list.

01:17:27.297 --> 01:17:31.270
We also think it's in violation to Statute 66.66,

01:17:31.270 --> 01:17:32.795
item three.

01:17:32.795 --> 01:17:35.867
And I apologize if I said that incorrectly, the legal counsel told me that.

01:17:35.867 --> 01:17:40.867
But basically, your process is set out for the publisher.

01:17:41.093 --> 01:17:43.706
There was no notice of volume of edits.

01:17:43.706 --> 01:17:46.029
That we have met all of the requirements

01:17:46.029 --> 01:17:50.479
of Proclamation 2019 and it says, the publisher certifies

01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:52.085
they will make those edits.

01:17:52.085 --> 01:17:53.675
All of our edits are actually made,

01:17:53.675 --> 01:17:55.866
because you were thinking there were thousands,

01:17:55.866 --> 01:17:59.199
'cause 858, each one took one minute, and they arel made.

01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:00.997
We have fully edited books.

01:18:00.997 --> 01:18:03.923
All of your school districts are really chomping at the bit

01:18:03.923 --> 01:18:06.901
to receive them and we want to serve those students.

01:18:06.901 --> 01:18:09.640
I'm a special education teacher.

01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:11.496
Special Education teachers cannot

01:18:11.496 --> 01:18:13.916
use formal traditional text.

01:18:13.916 --> 01:18:16.963
This lady, about dyslexia, it's the same thing.

01:18:16.963 --> 01:18:18.410
<v Ms. Bahorich>We'll, just wrap up there,</v>

01:18:18.410 --> 01:18:19.576
and then we'll ask questions.

01:18:19.576 --> 01:18:20.409
<v ->Sorry.</v>
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, okay.</v>

01:18:20.409 --> 01:18:21.242
Thank you.

01:18:21.242 --> 01:18:22.641
<v ->I'm very passionate, sorry.</v>

01:18:22.641 --> 01:18:25.389
<v ->Yeah, absolutely, we certainly understand.</v>

01:18:25.389 --> 01:18:27.715
Please identify yourself 'cause you started off

01:18:27.715 --> 01:18:28.696
just talking.

01:18:28.696 --> 01:18:29.985
<v Woman>Because there were only three minutes--</v>

01:18:29.985 --> 01:18:31.845
<v Ms. Bahorich>I totally understand.</v>

01:18:31.845 --> 01:18:32.734
(laughing)

01:18:32.734 --> 01:18:33.607
<v ->My name is Maz Wright.</v>

01:18:33.607 --> 01:18:35.342
I'm President of TPS.

01:18:35.342 --> 01:18:36.932
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, terrific.</v>

01:18:36.932 --> 01:18:39.766
Are there questions of our testifier?

01:18:39.766 --> 01:18:41.099
Yes, Mr. Rowley.

01:18:42.093 --> 01:18:45.843
<v ->So, Ms. Wright, thank you for sharing that.</v>

01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.778
On Wednesday, I believe it was, maybe Tuesday,

01:18:49.778 --> 01:18:52.402
whenever that Wednesday,

01:18:52.402 --> 01:18:55.634
I think it was your Director of Quality Control

01:18:55.634 --> 01:18:56.467
or Production.

01:18:56.467 --> 01:18:57.300
<v Ms. Wright>Vice-President.</v>

01:18:57.300 --> 01:18:58.881
<v ->Vice-President, there you go.</v>

01:18:58.881 --> 01:19:03.289
He came and said that at the time the original submission

01:19:03.289 --> 01:19:06.369
was made, that there was a breakdown

01:19:06.369 --> 01:19:08.700
in your editing process.

01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:12.283
That there was, I mean I took that to mean,

01:19:13.297 --> 01:19:18.226
as an explanation of the number of the factual errors

01:19:18.226 --> 01:19:21.226
that existed within the publication.

01:19:22.075 --> 01:19:23.408
Can you explain?

01:19:25.264 --> 01:19:26.892
Was he accurate about that?

01:19:26.892 --> 01:19:28.924
Was there a breakdown in your editing process?

01:19:28.924 --> 01:19:30.463
<v Ms. Bahorich>Please, hit your mic,</v>

01:19:30.463 --> 01:19:32.296
'cause it's not, yeah.

01:19:33.866 --> 01:19:36.083
<v Ms. Wright>So, what he was trying to say,</v>

01:19:36.083 --> 01:19:40.032
was that usually, TPS, as with all our CTE programs,

01:19:40.032 --> 01:19:43.118
would have all of our edits made before we submitted.

01:19:43.118 --> 01:19:45.896
It's not a requirement of Proclamation 2019

01:19:45.896 --> 01:19:47.729
that actually is done.

01:19:48.895 --> 01:19:51.211
We have until November the 6th to put them all in.

01:19:51.211 --> 01:19:53.351
He was saying there was a breakdown in our process,

01:19:53.351 --> 01:19:56.518
'cause we use external specialists to do the final

01:19:56.518 --> 01:19:59.759
proofreading and they were not available until after

01:19:59.759 --> 01:20:03.606
the submission date and neither were they available

01:20:03.606 --> 01:20:04.839
by August 31st.

01:20:04.839 --> 01:20:07.088
So, we had done our own internal and

01:20:07.088 --> 01:20:09.956
the University Professors, had done their internal reviews.

01:20:09.956 --> 01:20:12.781
We put those forward in the tranche of edits,

01:20:12.781 --> 01:20:14.287
and what he was trying to explain was that's not

01:20:14.287 --> 01:20:16.364
the normal TPS process.

01:20:16.364 --> 01:20:18.636
We normally have them in and that's why you wouldn't

01:20:18.636 --> 01:20:20.711
normally see so many from our program anyway,

01:20:20.711 --> 01:20:22.397
'cause they'd be fully edited.

01:20:22.397 --> 01:20:25.710
But actually, per the proclamation, a publisher does not

01:20:25.710 --> 01:20:29.807
have to have the edits made until May 2019.

01:20:29.807 --> 01:20:32.381
And I know that may be something you want to change for

01:20:32.381 --> 01:20:35.643
future proclamations, but that is what we relied upon.

01:20:35.643 --> 01:20:37.784
So, you have to put your first tranche through

01:20:37.784 --> 01:20:39.737
by August 31st, which we did.

01:20:39.737 --> 01:20:42.960
Your second tranche through, as every other publisher did,

01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.444
by November the 6th, and then you have until May the 3rd

01:20:46.444 --> 01:20:48.198
to actually make those edits.

01:20:48.198 --> 01:20:50.045
And what we were telling you on Wednesday, or what he should

01:20:50.045 --> 01:20:51.372
have been saying to you on Wednesday is that

01:20:51.372 --> 01:20:53.691
all of those edits have already been made.

01:20:53.691 --> 01:20:56.170
And you might have thought, well that can't be possible,

01:20:56.170 --> 01:20:59.333
because there are 6,700 edits, but they're not.

01:20:59.333 --> 01:21:02.654
This multiplied by 12, because of the multiple formats

01:21:02.654 --> 01:21:03.904
that TPS offer.

01:21:04.765 --> 01:21:07.392
So, we want to make it, so if there's a one to one digital

01:21:07.392 --> 01:21:09.671
school they can just buy digital.

01:21:09.671 --> 01:21:11.678
If they want to have it so that it's just print,

01:21:11.678 --> 01:21:12.875
they can just have print.

01:21:12.875 --> 01:21:14.889
If they want to have it print with some digital, they can

01:21:14.889 --> 01:21:16.466
have it that way.

01:21:16.466 --> 01:21:19.111
So, there are four different formats for every grade.

01:21:19.111 --> 01:21:23.316
We did two programs, that's 18 grades, multiplied by four,

01:21:23.316 --> 01:21:26.087
and I think that comes to 72 submissions.

01:21:26.087 --> 01:21:29.442
We agreed with TEA staff, who are brilliant by the way,

01:21:29.442 --> 01:21:32.685
that we would only put 54 submissions in,

01:21:32.685 --> 01:21:34.659
'cause two of them were identical.

01:21:34.659 --> 01:21:36.231
And we scored 100%.

01:21:36.231 --> 01:21:40.069
Some of the edits, that were comments that were made by

01:21:40.069 --> 01:21:43.962
two particular grades, were because they were looking at

01:21:43.962 --> 01:21:47.316
the August version and then they looked to our edits

01:21:47.316 --> 01:21:51.072
that we put through and that was all accepted by TEA.

01:21:51.072 --> 01:21:53.484
And we actually personally got that confirmation.

01:21:53.484 --> 01:21:56.763
So, what we've done now, because the actual making of edits is

01:21:56.763 --> 01:22:00.370
within our own company without external specialists,

01:22:00.370 --> 01:22:02.132
we have been able to spend last week,

01:22:02.132 --> 01:22:04.995
we've made all of those and they are about to go out.

01:22:04.995 --> 01:22:07.141
We've ordered our print room with all the final

01:22:07.141 --> 01:22:10.904
edited materials and they're due to go out.

01:22:10.904 --> 01:22:12.999
So, TPS, stands for Teacher, Parent, Student.

01:22:12.999 --> 01:22:15.907
We provide free online access to parents,

01:22:15.907 --> 01:22:19.783
we do parent workshops, we provide it all digitally as well.

01:22:19.783 --> 01:22:22.462
So, it's a way to save money for the districts.

01:22:22.462 --> 01:22:24.083
<v ->Thank you for that.</v>

01:22:24.083 --> 01:22:25.214
Just as a follow up question.

01:22:25.214 --> 01:22:28.207
So then, the breakdown in your editing process that you

01:22:28.207 --> 01:22:30.734
were referencing earlier, that the other testifier from

01:22:30.734 --> 01:22:35.734
your company spoke to as well, that is a, you're ringing,

01:22:36.250 --> 01:22:40.667
I don't know if it's me or what, so that would have--

01:22:41.669 --> 01:22:43.397
<v Ms. Bahorich>Keep your cellphones away</v>

01:22:43.397 --> 01:22:45.461
from the speaker that might help.

01:22:45.461 --> 01:22:49.639
<v ->Keep your cellphones away from the microphone.</v>

01:22:49.639 --> 01:22:51.525
And so, but that would have been reflected

01:22:51.525 --> 01:22:53.923
in that August submission?

01:22:53.923 --> 01:22:55.183
<v Ms. Wright>Yes, it was just that we didn't get them</v>

01:22:55.183 --> 01:22:57.479
all done as we would like as a company.

01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:59.665
It wasn't of the qualm of your proclamation,

01:22:59.665 --> 01:23:02.634
it was just he was saying, normally TPS,

01:23:02.634 --> 01:23:05.808
has 82 school districts are using CTE products,

01:23:05.808 --> 01:23:09.556
but didn't have as many edits for that at this time.

01:23:09.556 --> 01:23:11.838
<v Mr. Rowley>I understand, and by the way, you mentioned</v>

01:23:11.838 --> 01:23:15.275
that we might have had a question as to whether or not

01:23:15.275 --> 01:23:17.138
all those edits could have been accomplished

01:23:17.138 --> 01:23:18.578
in the period of time.

01:23:18.578 --> 01:23:20.407
He clarified that.

01:23:20.407 --> 01:23:21.672
<v ->Oh, he did.</v>

01:23:21.672 --> 01:23:22.627
I wasn't here, so--

01:23:22.627 --> 01:23:23.594
<v Mr. Rowley>We understood that was from August</v>

01:23:23.594 --> 01:23:25.226
to November, or something like that so.

01:23:25.226 --> 01:23:26.445
<v ->Yes, per the proclamation.</v>

01:23:26.445 --> 01:23:29.094
We've made all of the requirements and certified

01:23:29.094 --> 01:23:31.677
that the edits would be made and they don't have

01:23:31.677 --> 01:23:32.956
to be made until next May,

01:23:32.956 --> 01:23:35.023
but ours are also completely done.

01:23:35.023 --> 01:23:37.428
<v Mr. Rowley>Thank you.</v>

01:23:37.428 --> 01:23:38.752
<v ->Are there any other questions?</v>

01:23:38.752 --> 01:23:39.965
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any other questions?</v>

01:23:39.965 --> 01:23:40.798
<v ->Sorry</v>

01:23:40.798 --> 01:23:43.241
<v Ms. Bahorich>Of the members?</v>

01:23:43.241 --> 01:23:47.068
You know, I do have a question, 'cause I really try to read

01:23:47.068 --> 01:23:50.929
through and you look at our state review panels

01:23:50.929 --> 01:23:51.762
and what they have to say.

01:23:51.762 --> 01:23:56.331
And so, when I see things like grammatical errors

01:23:56.331 --> 01:23:58.378
abound in this resource, many words are misspelled,

01:23:58.378 --> 01:24:02.736
common words are misused, egregious capitalization mistakes,

01:24:02.736 --> 01:24:05.319
and run on, that's one comment.

01:24:07.271 --> 01:24:09.404
Another one, there are a lots of basic punctu,

01:24:09.404 --> 01:24:12.081
this a different grade, lots of basic punctuation errors

01:24:12.081 --> 01:24:13.915
throughout the book, I would not recommend

01:24:13.915 --> 01:24:17.263
this for adoption, significant revisions,

01:24:17.263 --> 01:24:20.359
and content clarity and proofreading must be done

01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:22.525
before this product is acceptable for adoption.

01:24:22.525 --> 01:24:24.764
Another grade, we would not recommend for adoption

01:24:24.764 --> 01:24:28.891
unless materials, undergo thorough professional

01:24:28.891 --> 01:24:29.974
copy editing.

01:24:31.907 --> 01:24:35.304
And the other issue that I saw, that there were a lot

01:24:35.304 --> 01:24:38.117
of comments when you responded back to errors reported

01:24:38.117 --> 01:24:41.707
were things like, "well this is a matter of opinion."

01:24:41.707 --> 01:24:46.707
And so, it becomes difficult when, you know, we rely on our panels

01:24:46.872 --> 01:24:49.519
who are going through these documents, and when they

01:24:49.519 --> 01:24:52.731
have a lack of recommendation in several grades.

01:24:52.731 --> 01:24:57.481
This wasn't just one grade or where that was particularly

01:24:58.488 --> 01:25:01.657
was mentioned by the state review panels, and the problem is

01:25:01.657 --> 01:25:04.221
they are only looking at what you submitted.

01:25:04.221 --> 01:25:07.846
And so, the way that our process works, we don't

01:25:07.846 --> 01:25:12.472
have the copy editing that would need to be done if

01:25:12.472 --> 01:25:15.753
it has to be edited by our, you know,

01:25:15.753 --> 01:25:17.261
they don't find every error.

01:25:17.261 --> 01:25:18.773
I guess is what I'm trying to say.

01:25:18.773 --> 01:25:20.617
When the copy editing hasn't been done,

01:25:20.617 --> 01:25:22.677
there's no possible way for them to go through

01:25:22.677 --> 01:25:25.057
with this many errors that need to be corrected

01:25:25.057 --> 01:25:26.600
and find every single

01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:28.332
thing 'cause they really don't.

01:25:28.332 --> 01:25:30.194
That's not what they're in panel to do.

01:25:30.194 --> 01:25:33.358
You kinda are expecting a classroom ready copy.

01:25:33.358 --> 01:25:36.279
I mean you're gonna have some errors, but you are expecting

01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.693
it's ready for the classroom as submitted.

01:25:38.693 --> 01:25:41.592
Otherwise, it really becomes hard for the review panels,

01:25:41.592 --> 01:25:46.170
which is why the comments we received were thus.

01:25:46.170 --> 01:25:48.067
<v Ms. Wright>Okay, so on the,</v>

01:25:48.067 --> 01:25:49.700
I think there are three grades--

01:25:49.700 --> 01:25:51.947
<v ->Just go ahead and hit that mic again.</v>

01:25:51.947 --> 01:25:54.475
I'm sorry for the microphones, they're a little difficult.

01:25:54.475 --> 01:25:55.655
<v ->Okay, is that okay?</v>

01:25:55.655 --> 01:25:56.868
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, go ahead.</v>

01:25:56.868 --> 01:25:58.368
I think there were three grades, but it was

01:25:58.368 --> 01:26:00.912
across two programs, where the first panel

01:26:00.912 --> 01:26:02.198
made those comments.

01:26:02.198 --> 01:26:04.880
When the second panel reviewed it, they did not

01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.613
make those same comments.

01:26:06.613 --> 01:26:08.959
And that's what we meant by personal opinion.

01:26:08.959 --> 01:26:12.333
However, what TPS did, is we employed expert English

01:26:12.333 --> 01:26:15.862
outside consultants to go through with a fine tooth comb.

01:26:15.862 --> 01:26:18.435
And that was one of the reasons, why the second tranche

01:26:18.435 --> 01:26:20.811
of edits was so high.

01:26:20.811 --> 01:26:21.956
That TPS put forward.

01:26:21.956 --> 01:26:25.587
They have all been addressed by American English Language

01:26:25.587 --> 01:26:28.860
and Arts specialists and all of those edits were accepted

01:26:28.860 --> 01:26:31.316
by the state, and they have been made.

01:26:31.316 --> 01:26:33.095
And it was on those three grades.

01:26:33.095 --> 01:26:36.707
So, if you felt still some discontent,

01:26:36.707 --> 01:26:39.946
then we would ask that just those three grades

01:26:39.946 --> 01:26:42.609
not be put on the adoption because they weren't

01:26:42.609 --> 01:26:45.147
the comments for the other grades, but they also weren't

01:26:45.147 --> 01:26:47.457
the comments of both sets of panelists.

01:26:47.457 --> 01:26:48.290
We asked for a second review.

01:26:48.290 --> 01:26:51.215
(audio cutting out)

01:26:51.215 --> 01:26:54.015
We felt on two of the reviewers comments,

01:26:54.015 --> 01:26:57.027
they were very personal comments and they

01:26:57.027 --> 01:27:01.343
weren't actually confirmed by the second review panel,

01:27:01.343 --> 01:27:03.789
so when you looked at the dates

01:27:03.789 --> 01:27:06.498
when they reviewed that, they were looking

01:27:06.498 --> 01:27:09.303
at our unedited content.

01:27:09.303 --> 01:27:12.013
It had not been edited at all the first time around,

01:27:12.013 --> 01:27:14.011
and that's why they found so many.

01:27:14.011 --> 01:27:16.453
The second time around, all of those were put through

01:27:16.453 --> 01:27:19.160
and they have now been reviewed by specialists.

01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:20.434
They were listed out.

01:27:20.434 --> 01:27:22.799
That's why there were so many in the first place.

01:27:22.799 --> 01:27:24.520
And they were accepted.

01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.575
But there were only three grades and three panelists

01:27:27.575 --> 01:27:30.371
in the first round that made those comments.

01:27:30.371 --> 01:27:32.248
So, I can assure you, hand on heart,

01:27:32.248 --> 01:27:33.821
that those have been made.

01:27:33.821 --> 01:27:36.279
And the school districts, have English experts

01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:38.088
in each of their committees, who go through

01:27:38.088 --> 01:27:40.262
with a fine tooth comb as well.

01:27:40.262 --> 01:27:43.303
So, we would not get adopted by any school district

01:27:43.303 --> 01:27:45.746
if they saw such errors in an English program.

01:27:45.746 --> 01:27:48.517
And I don't know how else really to answer that because

01:27:48.517 --> 01:27:51.491
that I can tell you the process.

01:27:51.491 --> 01:27:56.408
We have paid something like $75,000 in fees to have outside

01:27:57.446 --> 01:28:01.647
experts check everything that was put forward and when

01:28:01.647 --> 01:28:04.980
in a report it said, this is throughout,

01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.911
like there's a comma that should go in this place

01:28:09.911 --> 01:28:11.726
and it's throughout this grade.

01:28:11.726 --> 01:28:14.230
We had American experts look at that

01:28:14.230 --> 01:28:16.481
and search through every grade to make sure

01:28:16.481 --> 01:28:18.307
that we had not made that same thing

01:28:18.307 --> 01:28:20.182
and another panel had missed it.

01:28:20.182 --> 01:28:23.138
So, we have been through it with a thorough tooth comb

01:28:23.138 --> 01:28:27.202
and we have as I said, 82 school districts using CTE.

01:28:27.202 --> 01:28:30.242
We have not had one error report for any of our books.

01:28:30.242 --> 01:28:34.242
So, I can only solemnly swear that we have made

01:28:34.242 --> 01:28:37.751
all those edits and they are 100% accurate now.

01:28:37.751 --> 01:28:40.290
You also have a penalty you can lay on us,

01:28:40.290 --> 01:28:41.848
if that turns out not to be true.

01:28:41.848 --> 01:28:43.426
We've never had that occur to us either.

01:28:43.426 --> 01:28:46.541
And we state adopted for K-8 Math and K-8 Science.

01:28:46.541 --> 01:28:48.376
There have been no error reports for any

01:28:48.376 --> 01:28:50.209
of our programs, ever.

01:28:52.417 --> 01:28:54.401
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any other questions members?</v>

01:28:54.401 --> 01:28:55.312
<v Man>Madam Chair.</v>

01:28:55.312 --> 01:28:57.206
[Ms. Bahorich] Yes, Mr. Maynard.

01:28:57.206 --> 01:28:59.565
<v ->In terms of any discussion or questions or staff,</v>

01:28:59.565 --> 01:29:02.228
we just need to wait until we get to that motion,

01:29:02.228 --> 01:29:03.582
is that right?

01:29:03.582 --> 01:29:05.348
Or right now, we're just taking--

01:29:05.348 --> 01:29:07.029
<v ->We're just asking this testifier.</v>

01:29:07.029 --> 01:29:09.595
Yeah, this is just if questions of the testifier.

01:29:09.595 --> 01:29:11.093
<v ->Right, thank you.</v>

01:29:11.093 --> 01:29:12.590
<v ->Yes, Mr. Cortez.</v>

01:29:12.590 --> 01:29:16.590
<v ->If, when we do questions of staff on this item,</v>

01:29:18.021 --> 01:29:22.688
are we able to address the testifier again at that time?

01:29:23.536 --> 01:29:27.732
<v ->I think if there's no objection, if we needed to,</v>

01:29:27.732 --> 01:29:30.983
if one of the members on the Committee wanted

01:29:30.983 --> 01:29:34.566
to invite them up, if there's no objection,

01:29:35.916 --> 01:29:36.954
they could answer.

01:29:36.954 --> 01:29:40.410
That's what we've done in the past.

01:29:40.410 --> 01:29:43.010
<v ->And only because of her last statement,</v>

01:29:43.010 --> 01:29:44.908
and when we do get the staff, I'd want to find out

01:29:44.908 --> 01:29:46.457
if it's only on those two to three items

01:29:46.457 --> 01:29:48.266
versus the entire lot.

01:29:48.266 --> 01:29:50.921
And then what our action could be or might be.

01:29:50.921 --> 01:29:52.786
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, thank you.</v>

01:29:52.786 --> 01:29:53.619
Thank you.

01:29:54.671 --> 01:29:57.754
Okay, members I believe we are ready.

01:30:00.654 --> 01:30:02.977
<v Man>Ready to take up the recommendations</v>

01:30:02.977 --> 01:30:04.338
by the committee?

01:30:04.338 --> 01:30:05.535
<v ->Oh, actually, not quite ready.</v>

01:30:05.535 --> 01:30:06.368
<v Man>Consent.</v>

01:30:06.368 --> 01:30:07.367
<v ->'Cause we're on consent.</v>

01:30:07.367 --> 01:30:08.462
I forgot where we were,

01:30:08.462 --> 01:30:09.295
Sorry about that.

01:30:09.295 --> 01:30:10.128
Here we are.

01:30:10.128 --> 01:30:12.822
Okay, we're on the Consent Agenda.

01:30:12.822 --> 01:30:16.574
So members, page 31 in your agenda book.

01:30:16.574 --> 01:30:18.811
Page 31 where the Consent Agenda is,

01:30:18.811 --> 01:30:20.835
and I'm gonna read through each one

01:30:20.835 --> 01:30:24.601
and then we'll take a vote on those.

01:30:24.601 --> 01:30:28.335
This is item number 1, ratification of current

01:30:28.335 --> 01:30:30.301
Texas Lesson Study resources.

01:30:30.301 --> 01:30:34.986
Number two, approval of costs to administer the 2018-2019

01:30:34.986 --> 01:30:38.269
State Developed Assessments to private school students.

01:30:38.269 --> 01:30:41.830
Number 3, ratification of the purchases and sales

01:30:41.830 --> 01:30:43.875
of the Investment Portfolio of the Permanent School Fund

01:30:43.875 --> 01:30:46.429
for the months of August and September 2018.

01:30:46.429 --> 01:30:48.137
Number four, proposed amendments

01:30:48.137 --> 01:30:50.230
to the Investment Procedure Manual.

01:30:50.230 --> 01:30:53.440
Number five, an overview of the Permanent School Fund

01:30:53.440 --> 01:30:56.067
has been pulled from the Consent Agenda.

01:30:56.067 --> 01:30:58.873
Number six, recommendation for appointment

01:30:58.873 --> 01:31:01.709
to the Boys Ranch Independent School District

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Board of Trustees.

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All those in favor, say aye.

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<v Members>Aye.</v>

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All those opposed, say no.

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Okay, Consent Agenda is approved.

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Now, we're at, I'm sorry.

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<v Dr. Ellis>Program inquiry.</v>

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Over here.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, sorry.</v>

01:31:17.088 --> 01:31:19.116
<v Dr. Ellis>We had two test, was there a testifier</v>

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that didn't testify?

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, there was.</v>

01:31:21.882 --> 01:31:22.715
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, she not here or?</v>

01:31:22.715 --> 01:31:24.249
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, the second person, right.</v>

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<v Dr. Ellis>Okay.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, that's right.</v>

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Okay, and so yes now we're

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at the Committee of the Full Board.

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<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, so recommendations</v>

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on the Committee of the Full Board,

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we're gonna start with the minutes

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from the November 13th meeting.

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This is Board Agenda, page I-1.

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It's action item number one on the minutes

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and we're turning to the last page of that set.

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It's page 12.

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Actually, it's where the vote is.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, okay.</v>

01:31:57.936 --> 01:31:59.845
<v Mr. Rowley>And the motion I guess is on the first page,</v>

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or on the second page.

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<v Woman>Motion is on the back of that second page.</v>

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<v Mr. Rowley>Yeah, that's what I was, where I was going.</v>

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The last, if you look at the last, page 12,

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the Committee of the Full Board recommends that

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the State Board of Education approve for second reading

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and final adoption proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 113,

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Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

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Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

01:32:25.169 --> 01:32:29.053
Subchapter C, High School, and Subchapter D,

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Other Social Studies Courses, and proposed repeal

01:32:31.291 --> 01:32:33.124
of 19 TAC Chapter 118,

01:32:34.771 --> 01:32:37.403
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Economics with

01:32:37.403 --> 01:32:41.176
emphasis on the Free Enterprise System and it's benefits,

01:32:41.176 --> 01:32:43.323
Subchapter A, High School, and Subchapter B,

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other Economic Courses.

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As amended with an effective date of August 26, 2019.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Next, yes.</v>

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<v ->So just, so that you know what is being distributed is</v>

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the rule text that reflects the amendments that were made

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by the committee.

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Those changes are reflected in bold and highlighting.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, terrific.</v>

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This is what we did on Tuesday and Wednesday this week.

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<v ->Yes ma'am.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Terrific.</v>

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I'd like to take a 10, let's get back together at 11 o'clock

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just for necessary break here, and then,

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give you a chance to flip through and look at this.

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'Cause we just received this.

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Alright members, I'm gonna go ahead and call

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us back to order.

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(audience and members chatting)

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(gavel striking)

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And members, I wanna make sure that the members

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have received all of the proposed amendments.

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As you already know, per our rules, we do have to post

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our amendments on second reading by 5 p.m. of the prior day

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before taking the final vote and so we will

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be considering those amendments that have been posted

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on the internet since at least five o'clock as of yesterday.

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<v Woman>Submitted by five.</v>

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<v ->Oh, I'm sorry, submitted by five.</v>

01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:26.081
<v ->Submitted by five.</v>

01:34:26.081 --> 01:34:28.792
Staff can't always get everything posted by five,

01:34:28.792 --> 01:34:32.097
but you had to have submitted them to us by five.

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We posted them along with the draft rule text as quickly

01:34:37.464 --> 01:34:39.546
as we were able to get everything assembled,

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but it was after five.

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I just want to be clear on that.

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<v ->Okay, perfect.</v>

01:34:46.032 --> 01:34:47.481
Yes, Mr. Rowley.

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<v ->Okay, but that, for example if we wanted to amend</v>

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the effective date of implementation--

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<v Ms. Bahorich>No, no, these are amendments</v>

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to second reading that are in the side the document,

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as I understand.

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I don't think the effective date,

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'cause I didn't think of that.

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<v ->Well we could suspend our rules to do that.</v>

01:35:07.707 --> 01:35:09.232
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, we could suspend, we could suspend.</v>

01:35:09.232 --> 01:35:10.065
Okay.

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<v ->And Madam Chair, if you choose to do that,</v>

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there will be some conforming amendments that would need

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to be made, so we'll just have to point those out for you

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at that point in time.

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<v ->Okay members, what I'd like to do is,</v>

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we've got the Chapter 113,

01:35:36.001 --> 01:35:38.128
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies

01:35:38.128 --> 01:35:41.923
before us and the amendments that were turned in

01:35:41.923 --> 01:35:43.702
by members to consider today.

01:35:43.702 --> 01:35:47.591
I think they're just two sets that are being handed out.

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Correct?

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Staff, I just wanna make sure.

01:35:49.967 --> 01:35:50.897
Just two sets.

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I wanna make sure everybody's got them.

01:35:52.366 --> 01:35:54.819
One with the distinctive purple writing.

01:35:54.819 --> 01:35:56.962
We all know who that's from.

01:35:56.962 --> 01:35:58.189
(laughing)

01:35:58.189 --> 01:36:02.106
And then, the other was streamlining amendments

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with the hev yellow.

01:36:05.604 --> 01:36:07.484
<v Woman>Hey mines green and gold for Bears.</v>

01:36:07.484 --> 01:36:08.934
<v ->(giggling) That's right.</v>

01:36:08.934 --> 01:36:10.465
<v Woman>Is that what that is?</v>

01:36:10.465 --> 01:36:12.788
<v ->(giggling) Green and gold for Baylor, that's right, okay.</v>

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(laughing)

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Okay, so we'll start with elementary.

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It looks like we need to go to, Ms. Perez's document

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for elementary, 'cause I don't see anything

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before 8th grade for the other document.

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So, lets go to second grade.

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<v ->Members, you recall that during our conversation late</v>

01:36:38.994 --> 01:36:43.206
in the afternoon, we started to discuss clarification

01:36:43.206 --> 01:36:44.938
on the verbs.

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Not only because we want to remove ambiguity

01:36:48.263 --> 01:36:51.580
on how the student expectation is to be taught,

01:36:51.580 --> 01:36:56.330
but there is clarity on how it will be tested and whether

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it is a required STAAR or ELC is not necessarily

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the focus in every year.

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However, there are still assessments that must be done.

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Whether it's formative, summative, benchmark,

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grading period, et cetera.

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We want to make sure that there's continuity,

01:37:14.768 --> 01:37:16.421
and consistency.

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So everyone of, except for two on this entire document

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is all in clarification of the verb to remove the ambiguity

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so that we can ensure that I would teach something

01:37:28.534 --> 01:37:29.367
in El Paso.

01:37:29.367 --> 01:37:32.247
The way that Ms. Hardy would teach something in Weatherford,

01:37:32.247 --> 01:37:35.578
et cetera and that when the assessment gets to our students,

01:37:35.578 --> 01:37:39.789
that they were provided the opportunity to learn

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and that we remove the trickery, in our assessments.

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So, looking at Grade 2, I'm asking to--

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Wait a minute.</v>

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Make sure that we get to the right page.

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On this, on this too, the big one.

01:37:55.383 --> 01:37:56.985
<v ->It's page 1 of six.</v>

01:37:56.985 --> 01:37:58.938
<v ->We have to get to the big document.</v>

01:37:58.938 --> 01:38:00.294
<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

01:38:00.294 --> 01:38:01.463
<v ->We got to get to the big document.</v>

01:38:01.463 --> 01:38:03.998
So, make sure Ms. Cargill, if you've got this marked

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on the big document.

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Now, we've just gotten them, so we can kind

01:38:06.527 --> 01:38:08.482
of quickly move through your documents.

01:38:08.482 --> 01:38:10.085
You might want to look through.

01:38:10.085 --> 01:38:11.204
Cat's got 'em.

01:38:11.204 --> 01:38:13.205
Okay, well, lets just look 'em up.

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Make sure we got to the right pages,

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'cause we just got these.

01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:19.747
<v ->So, I believe it is on page, it begins on page 8,</v>

01:38:19.747 --> 01:38:22.164
Grade 2, number two, History.

01:38:25.383 --> 01:38:27.050
Page nine, Letter B.

01:38:33.033 --> 01:38:35.147
<v Ms. Bahorich>And the amendment would change just--</v>

01:38:35.147 --> 01:38:37.730
<v ->The word discuss to describe.</v>

01:38:38.784 --> 01:38:41.455
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any objections to changing discuss</v>

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to describe.

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Mr. Rowley.

01:38:44.941 --> 01:38:49.020
<v ->And this is for staff I think, Shelly or Monica</v>

01:38:49.020 --> 01:38:53.937
or whoever, so, I mean I'm fine with these proposal changes

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so long as there, that it's not a more substantive kind

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of change and I know evaluate, examine, analyze, describe,

01:39:05.643 --> 01:39:08.036
discuss, all of that, right?

01:39:08.036 --> 01:39:11.737
So, is this a, something that's consistent

01:39:11.737 --> 01:39:14.487
with what we've done in the past.

01:39:15.545 --> 01:39:16.474
Oh, okay, great.

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Hess, is cognitive rigor matrix with curricular examples.

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<v Member>Do we have that out?</v>

01:39:25.007 --> 01:39:25.915
<v Member>Do we have that out?</v>

01:39:25.915 --> 01:39:27.275
<v ->That's your Bloom's Taxonomy.</v>

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<v Woman>Oh, right.</v>

01:39:28.493 --> 01:39:30.222
<v ->Oh, okay, that 's what I was asking.</v>

01:39:30.222 --> 01:39:34.222
So then, so then, I don't see describe on here.

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<v ->It's on the (mumbling)</v>

01:39:41.594 --> 01:39:44.347
I don't know what you're looking at.

01:39:44.347 --> 01:39:47.262
<v ->I believe discuss and describe</v>

01:39:47.262 --> 01:39:48.599
are both level two, correct?

01:39:48.599 --> 01:39:50.436
<v Ms. Cargill>Discuss isn't even on there.</v>

01:39:50.436 --> 01:39:52.329
<v ->Okay, so then, it would be an increase,</v>

01:39:52.329 --> 01:39:53.779
it would be an improvement.

01:39:53.779 --> 01:39:56.319
<v Woman>I didn't know I could have this.</v>

01:39:56.319 --> 01:39:57.152
<v Mr. Crowley>Okay.</v>

01:39:57.152 --> 01:39:57.985
<v Woman>Did you get (mumbling) Georgina,</v>

01:39:57.985 --> 01:39:59.022
I don't know that--

01:39:59.022 --> 01:40:02.983
<v ->No, because I, I assumed everybody would be</v>

01:40:02.983 --> 01:40:05.579
using Bloom's Taxonomy.(laughing)

01:40:05.579 --> 01:40:06.525
We can.

01:40:06.525 --> 01:40:08.208
<v Woman>We can tell you.</v>

01:40:08.208 --> 01:40:09.041
<v ->Okay?</v>

01:40:09.041 --> 01:40:09.874
<v Ms. Bahorich>Why don't you tell us?</v>

01:40:09.874 --> 01:40:12.337
<v Mr. Rowley>Yep, would you please?</v>

01:40:12.337 --> 01:40:13.755
<v ->Describe is a level.</v>

01:40:13.755 --> 01:40:16.173
This is second grade of course, so it's a level two word,

01:40:16.173 --> 01:40:20.746
Discuss on the Bloom's that Kevin and I have pulled up

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is not on here.

01:40:22.069 --> 01:40:25.144
So, I went through these verbs with Gina and kind of helped

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look up where they were on Bloom's, but this is a Level two

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under Comprehension, Organization and Selection of Facts

01:40:31.383 --> 01:40:32.883
and Ideas.

01:40:32.883 --> 01:40:35.749
This Bloom's goes up to a Level six, which is the highest,

01:40:35.749 --> 01:40:36.916
at evaluation.

01:40:37.859 --> 01:40:41.390
<v ->And so, discuss is not on that Bloom's chart?</v>

01:40:41.390 --> 01:40:43.775
<v ->Not on this newest Bloom's that they've released.</v>

01:40:43.775 --> 01:40:45.159
<v Mr. Rowley>But describe is?</v>

01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:45.992
<v ->Yep.</v>

01:40:45.992 --> 01:40:48.054
<v ->Okay, great, for me to know.</v>

01:40:48.054 --> 01:40:50.018
<v ->And I think Gina's focused, or Ms. Perez is, sorry,</v>

01:40:50.018 --> 01:40:52.508
is on accessibility.

01:40:52.508 --> 01:40:56.508
How can we test the word discuss and not that,

01:40:58.388 --> 01:41:01.322
not that second grade is tested, but as we get into

01:41:01.322 --> 01:41:05.239
8th grade and high school, it is a big deal.

01:41:08.394 --> 01:41:11.107
<v Ms. Bahorich>Is there any objection to that change?</v>

01:41:11.107 --> 01:41:12.542
For two B?

01:41:12.542 --> 01:41:13.795
Or sorry, is it three B?

01:41:13.795 --> 01:41:14.691
<v Woman>Two.</v>

01:41:14.691 --> 01:41:15.904
<v Ms. Bahorich>Two B.</v>

01:41:15.904 --> 01:41:17.674
Hearing none, next.

01:41:17.674 --> 01:41:20.112
Next one, I'm sorry, Mr. Cortez.

01:41:20.112 --> 01:41:22.398
<v Mr. Cortez>I just have a question,</v>

01:41:22.398 --> 01:41:25.568
and I believe Ms. Perez, these are all gonna

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be the same, no?

01:41:27.162 --> 01:41:29.096
<v Ms. Perez>There are two that are different,</v>

01:41:29.096 --> 01:41:30.836
but for the most part, yes, they're all the same.

01:41:30.836 --> 01:41:34.490
<v ->I just wonder if it would be okay if there</v>

01:41:34.490 --> 01:41:36.303
was no objection and if there was,

01:41:36.303 --> 01:41:39.843
then just on the ones that there are,

01:41:39.843 --> 01:41:41.654
then maybe you pull it out and there's a conversation

01:41:41.654 --> 01:41:45.038
about it. If there isn't, then just direct staff

01:41:45.038 --> 01:41:45.969
to make the change.

01:41:45.969 --> 01:41:49.625
Rather than go through all 22 or 24 that she has.

01:41:49.625 --> 01:41:52.729
Unless there's an issue with one or two specific ones

01:41:52.729 --> 01:41:53.562
along the way.

01:41:53.562 --> 01:41:55.431
<v Ms. Bahorich>I'm not sure, I mean I have not</v>

01:41:55.431 --> 01:41:57.332
had a chance to look at these, so.

01:41:57.332 --> 01:42:00.557
I don't know how comfortable members would be.

01:42:00.557 --> 01:42:02.061
I'm sorry.

01:42:02.061 --> 01:42:02.894
Yeah.

01:42:04.583 --> 01:42:06.658
<v ->And so I also see that we're going</v>

01:42:06.658 --> 01:42:07.833
from examine to analyze.

01:42:07.833 --> 01:42:08.666
<v Ms. Perez>Yes.</v>

01:42:08.666 --> 01:42:10.303
<v ->And so, how does that fall?</v>

01:42:10.303 --> 01:42:11.306
That is on your--

01:42:11.306 --> 01:42:14.043
<v Ms. Perez>That is an increase (inaudible off micophone speech).</v>

01:42:14.043 --> 01:42:16.090
<v ->Okay, but how about on the Bloom's taxonomy that y'all</v>

01:42:16.090 --> 01:42:17.340
are looking at?

01:42:19.997 --> 01:42:24.091
<v ->So, examine is a level four word analysis which means</v>

01:42:24.091 --> 01:42:27.937
separating a whole into component parts and then analyze

01:42:27.937 --> 01:42:32.770
is also a level four, so they're both the same on Bloom's.

01:42:33.843 --> 01:42:36.426
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, thank you.</v>

01:42:37.886 --> 01:42:40.880
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, members, I think,</v>

01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:43.525
I guess I would feel a little more comfortable

01:42:43.525 --> 01:42:45.408
if we just kind of quickly move through

01:42:45.408 --> 01:42:48.386
and said verb change would be this.

01:42:48.386 --> 01:42:49.864
And we'll just, if there's no objection,

01:42:49.864 --> 01:42:50.936
then we'll just move on.

01:42:50.936 --> 01:42:52.481
If's that is okay with you guys.

01:42:52.481 --> 01:42:54.874
Alright, Grade 2, B we've done.

01:42:54.874 --> 01:42:57.624
Now, we're at Grade 3, number 9B.

01:42:59.113 --> 01:43:04.036
<v ->Okay so if there's any confusion or I guess to increase</v>

01:43:04.036 --> 01:43:08.786
clarity, I would be happy to change describe to identify.

01:43:10.982 --> 01:43:13.899
(members chatting)

01:43:15.404 --> 01:43:17.401
<v Ms. Bahorich>Is it right?</v>

01:43:17.401 --> 01:43:18.303
I was talking about two.

01:43:18.303 --> 01:43:19.717
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, no, it's fine.</v>

01:43:19.717 --> 01:43:20.550
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:43:20.550 --> 01:43:21.762
<v Ms. Bahorich] >We finished.</v>

01:43:21.762 --> 01:43:25.179
<v ->Okay so then Grade 3, 9B is on page 16?</v>

01:43:28.338 --> 01:43:29.171
Or no?

01:43:29.171 --> 01:43:30.147
Is that correct?

01:43:30.147 --> 01:43:31.173
No.

01:43:31.173 --> 01:43:33.423
<v ->Yeah, it's the top of 16.</v>

01:43:34.375 --> 01:43:38.310
<v Ms. Bahorich>Well, let me see, yes.</v>

01:43:38.310 --> 01:43:39.143
Okay.

01:43:41.755 --> 01:43:45.679
So the amendment there would be to change

01:43:45.679 --> 01:43:47.512
discuss to describe.

01:43:53.778 --> 01:43:54.980
Is it C now?

01:43:54.980 --> 01:43:56.838
<v Ms. Perez>Yes.</v>

01:43:56.838 --> 01:43:58.088
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay.</v>

01:43:58.088 --> 01:44:00.541
C would be changed instead of, it would be identify

01:44:00.541 --> 01:44:04.374
and describe, instead of identify and discuss.

01:44:05.781 --> 01:44:06.882
Any objections?

01:44:06.882 --> 01:44:08.728
Okay, hearing none.

01:44:08.728 --> 01:44:10.824
<v Ms. Perez>Continuing with Grade 3,</v>

01:44:10.824 --> 01:44:12.407
number 13, culture.

01:44:13.490 --> 01:44:16.663
I believe it's still on the same page.

01:44:16.663 --> 01:44:20.075
<v Woman>Page 16 towards the bottom, correct?</v>

01:44:20.075 --> 01:44:23.022
<v Ms. Bahorich>16, toward the bottom, number 13.</v>

01:44:23.022 --> 01:44:24.753
<v ->Okay, so--</v>

01:44:24.753 --> 01:44:26.426
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, no, that's the wrong number.</v>

01:44:26.426 --> 01:44:27.845
<v Woman>It's now, the new number 12.</v>

01:44:27.845 --> 01:44:29.078
<v ->Okay, new number 12.</v>

01:44:29.078 --> 01:44:29.911
Thank you.

01:44:31.567 --> 01:44:34.223
I would like the language to read "identify how various

01:44:34.223 --> 01:44:36.430
"writers and authors such as," and then go through

01:44:36.430 --> 01:44:37.960
that list.

01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:41.353
"And their stories, poems, statues, and paintings

01:44:41.353 --> 01:44:45.136
"are examples that contribute to the culture heritage

01:44:45.136 --> 01:44:46.219
"of community.

01:44:47.885 --> 01:44:49.424
Culture, cultural.

01:44:49.424 --> 01:44:52.140
<v Ms. Bahorich>So, no change in the persons?</v>

01:44:52.140 --> 01:44:53.381
<v ->Right.</v>

01:44:53.381 --> 01:44:56.091
<v Ms. Bahorich>But changes to which part?</v>

01:44:56.091 --> 01:44:58.994
Because I'm a little lost on this one.

01:44:58.994 --> 01:45:00.077
Identify how?

01:45:01.827 --> 01:45:04.554
Okay, so what's changed in here--

01:45:04.554 --> 01:45:09.554
<v ->So instead of discuss various, it's identify how various.</v>

01:45:11.813 --> 01:45:12.646
And then--

01:45:14.685 --> 01:45:15.518
<v Ms. Bahorich>How various?</v>

01:45:15.518 --> 01:45:16.351
<v ->Right.</v>

01:45:16.351 --> 01:45:19.251
<v Ms. Bahorich>Writers, and artists, and then the list,</v>

01:45:19.251 --> 01:45:20.142
and then and--

01:45:20.142 --> 01:45:23.625
<v ->And instead of, "and examples of," we're saying,</v>

01:45:23.625 --> 01:45:25.699
"and their stories, poems, statues, and paintings,

01:45:25.699 --> 01:45:29.588
"are examples that contribute to the cultural heritage

01:45:29.588 --> 01:45:30.838
"of communities."

01:45:32.635 --> 01:45:34.267
<v Woman>It was give us?</v>

01:45:34.267 --> 01:45:38.291
<v ->It was in addition to the change of the verb</v>

01:45:38.291 --> 01:45:41.763
it's also a bit of a grammatical correction, yes.

01:45:41.763 --> 01:45:43.533
<v Ms. Bahorich>That just doesn't look substantitve, yeah,</v>

01:45:43.533 --> 01:45:44.628
it's just their language.

01:45:44.628 --> 01:45:45.461
<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

01:45:45.461 --> 01:45:47.508
<v Ms. Bahorich>I'm sorry, okay, wait a minute.</v>

01:45:47.508 --> 01:45:48.860
Ms. Shelly has got something.

01:45:48.860 --> 01:45:50.393
<v ->I would just like to point out that</v>

01:45:50.393 --> 01:45:52.253
on this particular standard,

01:45:52.253 --> 01:45:54.821
it's actually asking the student to identify

01:45:54.821 --> 01:45:58.652
how their works of art are examples.

01:45:58.652 --> 01:46:01.601
I might just recommend that you take out, "are examples,"

01:46:01.601 --> 01:46:04.735
and just simply say, "how they contribute."

01:46:04.735 --> 01:46:06.410
"Identify how they contribute to."

01:46:06.410 --> 01:46:08.153
<v Ms. Perez>Okay.</v>

01:46:08.153 --> 01:46:10.280
<v Ms. Bahorich>So, the words we would change,</v>

01:46:10.280 --> 01:46:12.759
we'd strike what now?

01:46:12.759 --> 01:46:14.734
<v Woman>Just take out 'for example."</v>

01:46:14.734 --> 01:46:16.690
<v Man>For example.</v>

01:46:16.690 --> 01:46:18.421
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, I got it.</v>

01:46:18.421 --> 01:46:20.588
I have "and examples," okay.

01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:24.152
Okay.

01:46:25.824 --> 01:46:28.849
<v Woman>And I've got it on the screen for you.</v>

01:46:28.849 --> 01:46:31.034
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, does everybody know what we're voting</v>

01:46:31.034 --> 01:46:32.434
on now?

01:46:32.434 --> 01:46:35.099
So, this standard would now say," identify how various

01:46:35.099 --> 01:46:40.099
"writers and artists, such as, and there's a list, of folks,

01:46:40.226 --> 01:46:45.143
"and their stories, poems, statues, and paintings contribute

01:46:46.955 --> 01:46:50.886
"to the cultural heritage of communities."

01:46:50.886 --> 01:46:53.757
Is there any objection to that substitution?

01:46:53.757 --> 01:46:54.590
Hearing none.

01:46:54.590 --> 01:46:56.590
<v Ms. Perez>Thank you.</v>

01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:00.606
Moving on to Grade 7, History on page.

01:47:01.541 --> 01:47:04.809
<v Ms. Bahorich>Let's get to your middle school ones.</v>

01:47:04.809 --> 01:47:07.241
That enough for, we don't have anything else for elementary.

01:47:07.241 --> 01:47:08.952
I wanna make sure there's nothing else for elementary.

01:47:08.952 --> 01:47:10.557
<v Ms. Perez>Oh, thank you.</v>

01:47:10.557 --> 01:47:14.316
<v Ms. Bahorich>Nothing else for elementary.</v>

01:47:14.316 --> 01:47:19.066
<v ->Page seven, number five on page 8 of this document,</v>

01:47:23.224 --> 01:47:25.836
page 8, middle school document.

01:47:25.836 --> 01:47:27.836
Page two of my document.

01:47:29.984 --> 01:47:32.567
Number five, History, Letter C.

01:47:37.784 --> 01:47:39.099
Are we all on the same?

01:47:39.099 --> 01:47:41.099
No, it's not 8.

01:47:41.099 --> 01:47:42.952
I think it's 10.

01:47:42.952 --> 01:47:44.756
Yes, it's 10.

01:47:44.756 --> 01:47:47.813
Okay, page 10 of this document that we received

01:47:47.813 --> 01:47:48.896
this morning.

01:47:50.315 --> 01:47:54.065
Number five, History, Letter, maybe Letter C.

01:47:56.585 --> 01:47:57.550
<v Woman>It is Letter C.</v>

01:47:57.550 --> 01:47:58.550
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:47:59.653 --> 01:48:01.320
I'm asking to change

01:48:04.053 --> 01:48:08.393
the verb back to analyze rather than discuss.

01:48:08.393 --> 01:48:11.809
If you look at your document on page 10,

01:48:11.809 --> 01:48:14.550
we initially had it as analyze, it was changed to discuss,

01:48:14.550 --> 01:48:17.769
I'd like to change it back to analyze.

01:48:17.769 --> 01:48:21.382
<v Ms. Bahorich>And this is five C?</v>

01:48:21.382 --> 01:48:22.965
<v Woman>Yes m'am.</v>

01:48:24.593 --> 01:48:26.797
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, I see.</v>

01:48:26.797 --> 01:48:27.630
<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

01:48:27.630 --> 01:48:29.076
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes.</v>

01:48:29.076 --> 01:48:31.345
<v ->So, I do, as Ms. Perez pointed out, that would be</v>

01:48:31.345 --> 01:48:33.227
changing it back.

01:48:33.227 --> 01:48:36.273
The work groups recommended changing the verb to something

01:48:36.273 --> 01:48:37.586
lower level.

01:48:37.586 --> 01:48:39.764
They felt that especially at this grade level,

01:48:39.764 --> 01:48:43.126
given the context of the student expectation

01:48:43.126 --> 01:48:45.258
that was too broad and too challenging,

01:48:45.258 --> 01:48:50.223
so this was an effort for the work groups to streamline.

01:48:50.223 --> 01:48:54.232
<v ->Would the verb identify be acceptable</v>

01:48:54.232 --> 01:48:56.149
for the level of rigor?

01:48:57.369 --> 01:49:01.766
<v ->So, identify would be probably the lowest level of rigor.</v>

01:49:01.766 --> 01:49:02.959
It's really just listing.

01:49:02.959 --> 01:49:04.375
<v Ms. Perez>Right.</v>

01:49:04.375 --> 01:49:07.513
<v ->And so, I think that's up to this board to determine</v>

01:49:07.513 --> 01:49:09.683
what the appropriate level of rigor.

01:49:09.683 --> 01:49:10.964
That might be too low.

01:49:10.964 --> 01:49:13.941
<v Ms. Perez>Okay, how about explain?</v>

01:49:13.941 --> 01:49:15.432
Okay.

01:49:15.432 --> 01:49:18.219
So, if you will cross out the word analyze,

01:49:18.219 --> 01:49:20.939
write in the word explain, that is my motion.

01:49:20.939 --> 01:49:22.272
Thank you Kelly.

01:49:26.669 --> 01:49:27.502
Shelly.

01:49:27.502 --> 01:49:29.459
(laughing)

01:49:29.459 --> 01:49:32.154
<v Ms. Bahorich>Thank you for helping us as we,</v>

01:49:32.154 --> 01:49:34.923
As we go through this, thank you.

01:49:34.923 --> 01:49:38.556
Any objection to substituting the word explain for analyze?

01:49:38.556 --> 01:49:41.139
Oh, sorry, explain for discuss?

01:49:42.625 --> 01:49:44.208
Hearing none, next.

01:49:45.191 --> 01:49:47.824
<v ->I don't have, let's see after that we go</v>

01:49:47.824 --> 01:49:50.548
into World Geography, but I believe Ms. Cargill

01:49:50.548 --> 01:49:53.117
has some 8th grade.

01:49:53.117 --> 01:49:56.367
<v Ms. Cargill>We are in 8th grade.</v>

01:50:02.593 --> 01:50:04.687
<v Ms. Bahorich>It doesn't matter.</v>

01:50:04.687 --> 01:50:07.114
I think there's only three right for 8th grade?

01:50:07.114 --> 01:50:08.409
Is that?

01:50:08.409 --> 01:50:10.854
(inaudible speech off microphone)

01:50:10.854 --> 01:50:13.986
Oh, Mr. Allen, I think you had something for fifth grade.

01:50:13.986 --> 01:50:15.582
I completely.

01:50:15.582 --> 01:50:16.523
<v Man>8th grade?</v>

01:50:16.523 --> 01:50:18.231
<v ->Yeah, we were, in a minute.</v>

01:50:18.231 --> 01:50:19.814
Let me, we can, I'm sorry.

01:50:19.814 --> 01:50:21.362
<v ->Would you like to go back?</v>

01:50:21.362 --> 01:50:24.380
<v ->Yes we would like to go back to fifth grade please.</v>

01:50:24.380 --> 01:50:25.994
I forgot this one.

01:50:25.994 --> 01:50:26.827
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:50:26.827 --> 01:50:28.759
<v ->And I don't know, does Steph have?</v>

01:50:28.759 --> 01:50:30.284
<v ->We're trying to get copies.</v>

01:50:30.284 --> 01:50:31.931
<v ->Okay, we've got copies.</v>

01:50:31.931 --> 01:50:35.309
Mr. Allen, can you give this to Ms. Kay so she can

01:50:35.309 --> 01:50:37.666
go ahead and copy that?

01:50:37.666 --> 01:50:39.820
<v ->I can from these four.</v>

01:50:39.820 --> 01:50:40.653
<v ->Oh, okay, okay.</v>

01:50:40.653 --> 01:50:43.025
She's gonna send it to her.

01:50:43.025 --> 01:50:45.354
And so, one thing--

01:50:45.354 --> 01:50:47.935
<v ->I'll check my e-mails.</v>

01:50:47.935 --> 01:50:51.935
<v ->Yes, this is consideration that was not posted</v>

01:50:54.350 --> 01:50:58.817
that Mr. Allen would like to ask the Board to consider.

01:50:58.817 --> 01:51:03.726
We have to suspend our rules because it was not posted.

01:51:03.726 --> 01:51:07.175
And it so it'd be in Grade 5 and it was on page,

01:51:07.175 --> 01:51:08.566
let's get to the right page Mr. Allen.

01:51:08.566 --> 01:51:12.385
<v Mr. Allen>Well right now, in your (speech obscured by papers rustling)</v>

01:51:12.385 --> 01:51:14.682
mainly you'll find it on page 26.

01:51:14.682 --> 01:51:16.265
<v ->Page 26, Grade 5.</v>

01:51:19.716 --> 01:51:24.049
We have to suspend rules to consider this amendment.

01:51:28.096 --> 01:51:29.922
Yes, let me make sure.

01:51:29.922 --> 01:51:32.005
Okay, four D, on page 26.

01:51:35.422 --> 01:51:37.536
<v Woman>She's working on it.</v>

01:51:37.536 --> 01:51:39.301
<v Woman>Perfect, thank you ma'am.</v>

01:51:39.301 --> 01:51:40.783
<v ->Okay, four D, on page 26.</v>

01:51:40.783 --> 01:51:42.510
Is everybody there?

01:51:42.510 --> 01:51:43.853
On the elementary.

01:51:43.853 --> 01:51:47.585
Okay, okay, Mr. Allen, would you go ahead and read

01:51:47.585 --> 01:51:52.085
what the substitution there is that you're suggesting.

01:51:53.051 --> 01:51:55.682
<v ->I'm actually trying to implement an amendment</v>

01:51:55.682 --> 01:51:57.976
that has just change some change in the words,

01:51:57.976 --> 01:52:00.087
so I may miss all the strikes, but help me go through it.

01:52:00.087 --> 01:52:01.889
Like, first start, and just strike the word,

01:52:01.889 --> 01:52:04.972
identify and replace it with explain.

01:52:05.899 --> 01:52:10.899
So, the new wording, will be as we work with it, for four D,

01:52:11.976 --> 01:52:14.719
and we'll be creating a four E as well,

01:52:14.719 --> 01:52:19.255
is, "explain the central role of the expansion of slavery

01:52:19.255 --> 01:52:24.255
"in causing sectionalism, disagreement over states' rights

01:52:24.434 --> 01:52:26.651
"and the Civil War."

01:52:26.651 --> 01:52:29.163
If you take that and work with what's here, you'll see what

01:52:29.163 --> 01:52:31.412
was being asked to be deleted and what

01:52:31.412 --> 01:52:33.579
was actually replacing it.

01:52:36.372 --> 01:52:38.999
And where you would have the word, and,

01:52:38.999 --> 01:52:43.749
we'd have a period now and we are inserting a new four E.

01:52:46.799 --> 01:52:48.606
For instructional purposes, four E would start again

01:52:48.606 --> 01:52:53.474
with the word, "explain the effects of the Civil War

01:52:53.474 --> 01:52:58.474
"including Reconstruction and the 13, 14, and 15th amendment

01:52:58.496 --> 01:53:00.875
"of the U.S. Constitution."

01:53:00.875 --> 01:53:04.042
So, we're inserting the word, explain.

01:53:06.432 --> 01:53:07.894
<v Woman>Fifth grade?</v>

01:53:07.894 --> 01:53:10.007
<v ->That's in fifth grade.</v>

01:53:10.007 --> 01:53:12.543
<v Man>Part of the E, what would four E would say?</v>

01:53:12.543 --> 01:53:14.225
<v ->E, read e.</v>

01:53:14.225 --> 01:53:17.517
Four E would then read, "explain the effects

01:53:17.517 --> 01:53:21.378
"of the Civil War, including Reconstruction and

01:53:21.378 --> 01:53:26.378
"the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment of the US Constitution."

01:53:26.947 --> 01:53:29.213
<v ->So, we're not gonna worry about strikes,</v>

01:53:29.213 --> 01:53:31.723
but what would the new four D be?

01:53:31.723 --> 01:53:36.723
<v ->The new four D, would simply start with the word, explain.</v>

01:53:37.985 --> 01:53:41.214
And it would go "explain the central role of the expansion

01:53:41.214 --> 01:53:44.304
"of slavery in causing sectionalism,

01:53:44.304 --> 01:53:48.637
"disagreement over states' rights, and the Civil War."

01:53:53.580 --> 01:53:55.341
<v Woman>Are we getting the coffee started?</v>

01:53:55.341 --> 01:53:58.172
<v ->I don't know if I should say it here so that everybody</v>

01:53:58.172 --> 01:53:59.613
would know it.

01:53:59.613 --> 01:54:03.371
I would also reflect, if voted up, it would also reflect

01:54:03.371 --> 01:54:06.621
in 8th grade as well and on 8 B.

01:54:10.078 --> 01:54:12.038
<v ->Chair, I move we suspend the rules to allow</v>

01:54:12.038 --> 01:54:14.557
the consideration of this amendment.

01:54:14.557 --> 01:54:16.159
<v Man>Second.</v>

01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:19.409
<v ->All those in favor, raise your hands.</v>

01:54:20.397 --> 01:54:23.647
'Cause it takes two-thirds to consider.

01:54:24.788 --> 01:54:27.941
All those in favor, raise your hands?

01:54:27.941 --> 01:54:30.640
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:33.807
The motion is, to suspend is in order.

01:54:36.058 --> 01:54:39.141
Okay, everybody's getting their copy.

01:54:42.167 --> 01:54:45.069
<v Woman>And on page 26 is page four D?</v>

01:54:45.069 --> 01:54:49.604
<v ->Page four D, yeah, four D is on page 26 of elementary.</v>

01:54:49.604 --> 01:54:51.854
(mumbling)

01:54:53.306 --> 01:54:55.607
So, basically, I wouldn't worry about the strike use,

01:54:55.607 --> 01:55:00.607
I'd just read his four D that we passed, just passed out.

01:55:00.633 --> 01:55:03.383
Instead of four D that's in here.

01:55:06.136 --> 01:55:07.177
(mumbling)

01:55:07.177 --> 01:55:08.099
Mr. Rowley.

01:55:08.099 --> 01:55:12.925
<v ->Maybe it's for staff or even the maker of the motion.</v>

01:55:12.925 --> 01:55:17.925
So, four E, I'm kind of reading is a little bit curious

01:55:17.944 --> 01:55:22.694
to me, because it says, "explain the effects of the Civil War

01:55:22.694 --> 01:55:26.074
"including Reconstruction and the 13th, 14th,

01:55:26.074 --> 01:55:28.782
"and 15th amendments to the U.S. Constitution."

01:55:28.782 --> 01:55:32.249
So, it's almost, as I'm reading it, it's almost like you're

01:55:32.249 --> 01:55:35.824
including Reconstruction, 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments

01:55:35.824 --> 01:55:38.941
as part of the effects of the Civil War.

01:55:38.941 --> 01:55:39.996
See what I'm?

01:55:39.996 --> 01:55:40.901
<v Woman>Yes, sir.</v>

01:55:40.901 --> 01:55:41.796
I think that's the intent.

01:55:41.796 --> 01:55:43.373
<v Woman>Yeah.</v>

01:55:43.373 --> 01:55:47.174
<v ->The effects of the Civil War and the 14th, 13th, 14th,</v>

01:55:47.174 --> 01:55:48.507
15th amendments?

01:55:50.630 --> 01:55:53.769
Well, I know, I know, it's the including part, I don't know

01:55:53.769 --> 01:55:56.252
what's going on with, maybe it's my mic.

01:55:56.252 --> 01:55:59.260
(members chatting)

01:55:59.260 --> 01:56:00.380
Yeah.

01:56:00.380 --> 01:56:02.030
<v Woman>Yes sir, so I think.</v>

01:56:02.030 --> 01:56:05.206
So, all that is, if you'll notice is just taking that text

01:56:05.206 --> 01:56:09.491
from what is currently five D and moving it into it's own

01:56:09.491 --> 01:56:12.726
student expectation and so what the current standards have

01:56:12.726 --> 01:56:16.196
is that the effects of the Civil War were Reconstruction,

01:56:16.196 --> 01:56:19.824
the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.

01:56:19.824 --> 01:56:21.529
Those are the ones that students have to know.

01:56:21.529 --> 01:56:23.791
<v ->So, I'm paraphrasing, but essentially,</v>

01:56:23.791 --> 01:56:28.165
including the effects of the Civil War on Reconstruction

01:56:28.165 --> 01:56:30.231
of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, like that?

01:56:30.231 --> 01:56:32.034
<v Woman>No, I think they're saying that, the key effects</v>

01:56:32.034 --> 01:56:35.532
of the Civil War that students should know

01:56:35.532 --> 01:56:37.437
are Reconstruction and the three amendments.

01:56:37.437 --> 01:56:41.020
<v ->Okay, that's kind of what I'm, thank you.</v>

01:56:44.824 --> 01:56:48.741
<v ->Okay, so the change would be a D and a new E.</v>

01:56:49.909 --> 01:56:53.909
So, the new change instead of four D, currently,

01:56:54.764 --> 01:56:57.839
we will have both a four D and a new four E.

01:56:57.839 --> 01:56:59.902
And this is how it will read for Grade 5.

01:56:59.902 --> 01:57:02.542
"Explain the central role of the expansion of slavery in

01:57:02.542 --> 01:57:05.990
"causing sectionalism, disagreement over states' rights,

01:57:05.990 --> 01:57:07.805
"and the Civil War."

01:57:07.805 --> 01:57:11.289
Four E will say, "explain the effects of the Civil War

01:57:11.289 --> 01:57:14.677
"including Reconstruction and the 13th, 14th, and 15th

01:57:14.677 --> 01:57:17.217
"Amendments to the U.S. Constitution."

01:57:17.217 --> 01:57:18.984
<v Ms. Crews>And it's now on the screens.</v>

01:57:18.984 --> 01:57:22.108
<v ->And it's now on the screen.</v>

01:57:22.108 --> 01:57:22.941
All those in favor, say Aye.

01:57:22.941 --> 01:57:24.245
<v Members>Aye.</v>

01:57:24.245 --> 01:57:25.914
All those opposed, say nay.

01:57:25.914 --> 01:57:27.098
Motion is adopted.

01:57:27.098 --> 01:57:31.130
And that would also, if it's okay, members, we'll go ahead

01:57:31.130 --> 01:57:33.203
and do 8 B.

01:57:33.203 --> 01:57:34.891
A new 8 B.

01:57:34.891 --> 01:57:36.979
I wanna make sure I've got that.

01:57:36.979 --> 01:57:37.881
<v ->Page 17.</v>

01:57:37.881 --> 01:57:41.680
<v ->Page 17 of the middle school, would be a new 8 B,</v>

01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:45.051
would be the exactly the same as the four D, we just passed.

01:57:45.051 --> 01:57:46.508
(mumbling)

01:57:46.508 --> 01:57:48.305
<v ->Staff looked at it.</v>

01:57:48.305 --> 01:57:51.638
I want to make sure, we've got it right.

01:57:57.004 --> 01:57:59.308
<v Woman>And, I'm sorry, what grade was that?</v>

01:57:59.308 --> 01:58:03.018
<v ->This would be for Grade 8, 8 B, and it would</v>

01:58:03.018 --> 01:58:06.941
be that substitute of just four D is all that's needed.

01:58:06.941 --> 01:58:10.471
Yeah, Shelly could you, I wanna make sure that members know.

01:58:10.471 --> 01:58:14.486
<v ->Yes ma'am, so on page 17 of the middle school document</v>

01:58:14.486 --> 01:58:15.733
that you received this morning.

01:58:15.733 --> 01:58:18.512
It's essentially the exact same standard except

01:58:18.512 --> 01:58:21.917
for the effects part, so if you wanted

01:58:21.917 --> 01:58:24.820
to make them consistent, you should use the same language

01:58:24.820 --> 01:58:27.653
in the motion that Mr. Allen made.

01:58:29.340 --> 01:58:32.027
<v Woman>And it's now on the screen, four B.</v>

01:58:32.027 --> 01:58:35.694
<v Ms. Bahorich>And it's now on the screen.</v>

01:58:38.160 --> 01:58:41.359
Is there any objection to making that same exact change

01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:42.276
in 8 B?

01:58:44.192 --> 01:58:45.277
<v Ms. Perez>Just some discussion.</v>

01:58:45.277 --> 01:58:47.268
<v ->Yes, Ms. Perez.</v>

01:58:47.268 --> 01:58:51.108
<v ->Okay, so looking at 8 B, it currently states,</v>

01:58:51.108 --> 01:58:55.367
explain the causes of the Civil War and we want to change

01:58:55.367 --> 01:58:58.200
that to, explain the central role?

01:58:59.124 --> 01:59:01.124
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mm-hmm.</v>

01:59:02.121 --> 01:59:04.371
(mumbling)

01:59:06.721 --> 01:59:07.554
Okay.

01:59:09.008 --> 01:59:10.939
<v Woman>Here it shoud be C and not B.</v>

01:59:10.939 --> 01:59:12.689
<v ->So, it should be C.</v>

01:59:13.871 --> 01:59:15.733
Now that's a significant difference.

01:59:15.733 --> 01:59:17.986
<v Ms. Crews>All I did was add it.</v>

01:59:17.986 --> 01:59:19.848
I didn't take anything out.

01:59:19.848 --> 01:59:21.160
Are you removing something?

01:59:21.160 --> 01:59:23.433
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, we would have, we are striking</v>

01:59:23.433 --> 01:59:25.940
the current C, right?

01:59:25.940 --> 01:59:27.968
<v Ms. Perez>So, it's not 8 B, it's 8 C.</v>

01:59:27.968 --> 01:59:30.146
<v Ms. Bahorich>I'm sorry, sorry,</v>

01:59:30.146 --> 01:59:30.979
So sorry,

01:59:30.979 --> 01:59:33.542
We're striking 8 B, striking 8 B.

01:59:33.542 --> 01:59:35.259
<v Ms. Perez>It's B, okay, so it is 8 B.</v>

01:59:35.259 --> 01:59:36.749
<v Ms. Bahorich>We're striking 8 B.</v>

01:59:36.749 --> 01:59:37.752
<v Ms. Crews>Alright, and putting both of these--</v>

01:59:37.752 --> 01:59:40.158
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, just, just the first one.</v>

01:59:40.158 --> 01:59:42.011
Get rid of E.

01:59:42.011 --> 01:59:42.844
Yeah, get that.

01:59:42.844 --> 01:59:43.677
<v ->Got it.</v>

01:59:43.677 --> 01:59:44.510
And now,--

01:59:44.510 --> 01:59:46.018
<v Man>8 B, would become, would be the same.</v>

01:59:46.018 --> 01:59:46.851
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah.</v>

01:59:46.851 --> 01:59:51.253
<v Ms. Perez>So, we're removing the causes</v>

01:59:51.253 --> 01:59:54.824
and now we're explaining the central role, no.

01:59:54.824 --> 01:59:57.390
<v ->We put the, in causing, the Civil War,</v>

01:59:57.390 --> 02:00:00.958
you have to (inaudible speech off microphone)

02:00:00.958 --> 02:00:04.077
<v ->Explain the central role in causing.</v>

02:00:04.077 --> 02:00:05.795
<v ->Slavery, in causing.</v>

02:00:05.795 --> 02:00:06.872
<v ->It's up there.</v>

02:00:06.872 --> 02:00:08.568
<v ->It's there, but it's not here.</v>

02:00:08.568 --> 02:00:09.579
Right?

02:00:09.579 --> 02:00:10.442
<v ->Yeah, no, it's here.</v>

02:00:10.442 --> 02:00:11.722
<v ->It's here.</v>

02:00:11.722 --> 02:00:13.671
<v ->Just the first part.</v>

02:00:13.671 --> 02:00:16.969
"Explain the central role of the expansion of slavery

02:00:16.969 --> 02:00:21.969
"in causing sectionalism, disagreement over states' right,

02:00:21.969 --> 02:00:25.462
"states' right, and the Civil War."

02:00:25.462 --> 02:00:26.811
<v ->I see what she's pointing out though.</v>

02:00:26.811 --> 02:00:31.728
<v ->Right, and while I just wanna understand how this affects</v>

02:00:32.637 --> 02:00:34.586
the assessment now.

02:00:34.586 --> 02:00:36.586
That's my only question.

02:00:38.146 --> 02:00:40.335
Because if we're talking about the causes

02:00:40.335 --> 02:00:43.843
and now we're talking about, in causing,

02:00:43.843 --> 02:00:46.759
how does that change the test?

02:00:46.759 --> 02:00:49.732
<v ->So, currently, it requires students to know the causes</v>

02:00:49.732 --> 02:00:53.223
of the Civil War as slavery, state's rights,

02:00:53.223 --> 02:00:54.917
and sectionalism.

02:00:54.917 --> 02:00:58.299
So, this changes it to make it more historically accurate

02:00:58.299 --> 02:01:03.161
to say, that the expansion of slavery caused sectionalism,

02:01:03.161 --> 02:01:06.506
states' rights, and the Civil War.

02:01:06.506 --> 02:01:11.006
<v Ms. Perez>So, the verb change will have no impact?</v>

02:01:12.766 --> 02:01:14.599
<v ->It's still, explain.</v>

02:01:15.847 --> 02:01:19.936
So it' won't change that in that sentence.

02:01:19.936 --> 02:01:21.317
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, does everybody understand</v>

02:01:21.317 --> 02:01:22.428
what that is?

02:01:22.428 --> 02:01:23.595
Any objection?

02:01:25.148 --> 02:01:27.336
Any objection to that substitution?

02:01:27.336 --> 02:01:29.933
Hearing none, that motion is adopted as well.

02:01:29.933 --> 02:01:31.595
Alright, now we're back.

02:01:31.595 --> 02:01:33.200
Thank you Mr. Allen.

02:01:33.200 --> 02:01:37.950
Now we're back to the document that has yellow and green.

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<v Man>8th grade.</v>

02:01:40.790 --> 02:01:41.707
Yes, sorry.

02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:50.428
Yes, 5A.

02:01:50.428 --> 02:01:52.600
<v Ms. Hardy>I wanna give a little explanation</v>

02:01:52.600 --> 02:01:55.131
before we start this.

02:01:55.131 --> 02:01:56.955
There is still some concern.

02:01:56.955 --> 02:01:59.795
There is still concern about 8th and 11th grade,

02:01:59.795 --> 02:02:04.456
because those are tested areas and that those areas,

02:02:04.456 --> 02:02:06.528
still aren't reduced down.

02:02:06.528 --> 02:02:11.182
So, yesterday, several of us worked on trying to find

02:02:11.182 --> 02:02:16.182
ways we could compact and clarify or reduce on that,

02:02:16.199 --> 02:02:20.772
that would not cause a lot of heartburn on anyone's part.

02:02:20.772 --> 02:02:22.474
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, several as in less than a quorum.</v>

02:02:22.474 --> 02:02:23.307
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes.</v>

02:02:23.307 --> 02:02:24.615
(laughing)

02:02:24.615 --> 02:02:25.448
Yes, yes.

02:02:25.448 --> 02:02:26.281
<v ->To understand.</v>

02:02:26.281 --> 02:02:30.591
<v ->The people who walked in the room, we asked questions of.</v>

02:02:30.591 --> 02:02:35.029
So, I'm starting on page 15 of the middle school.

02:02:35.029 --> 02:02:35.986
(inaudible speech off microphone)

02:02:35.986 --> 02:02:38.986
Yes, we did not have the amendments.

02:02:41.148 --> 02:02:44.264
So staff, like we just got this packet of amendments,

02:02:44.264 --> 02:02:45.287
from Wednesday, right?

02:02:45.287 --> 02:02:46.521
The new language.

02:02:46.521 --> 02:02:48.506
<v ->So some of the language.</v>

02:02:48.506 --> 02:02:51.929
<v Ms. Cargill>Yeah, so staff will point out any of our,</v>

02:02:51.929 --> 02:02:54.485
'cause what I put in there, was before amendments

02:02:54.485 --> 02:02:56.589
on Wednesday, our current.

02:02:56.589 --> 02:02:57.524
Yeah.

02:02:57.524 --> 02:02:59.608
<v Man>Top of the Wednesday.</v>

02:02:59.608 --> 02:03:00.820
<v Ms. Hardy>Oh, I'm sorry, did I say 15, I said 15,</v>

02:03:00.820 --> 02:03:01.709
didn't I?

02:03:01.709 --> 02:03:06.042
Sorry, top of page 17, the very first one is 5A.

02:03:08.864 --> 02:03:11.805
And we recommend that we reduce the word,

02:03:11.805 --> 02:03:13.980
"building a military."

02:03:13.980 --> 02:03:16.877
Simply because that would be maintaining national security.

02:03:16.877 --> 02:03:19.917
And defining the authority of the central government.

02:03:19.917 --> 02:03:23.788
The top one's removed because it's redundant.

02:03:23.788 --> 02:03:25.697
The second one was removed because it's covered

02:03:25.697 --> 02:03:27.114
in other content.

02:03:28.434 --> 02:03:29.977
<v ->I understand all of these amendments are strictly</v>

02:03:29.977 --> 02:03:31.472
streamlining.

02:03:31.472 --> 02:03:33.316
We're not doing anything, but streamlining.

02:03:33.316 --> 02:03:34.787
<v Ms. Hardy>No, we're not changing any meaning--</v>

02:03:34.787 --> 02:03:35.981
Not adding things back, whatever.

02:03:35.981 --> 02:03:36.814
<v ->No.</v>

02:03:36.814 --> 02:03:39.104
<v Ms. Bahorich>We're doing streamlining, okay.</v>

02:03:39.104 --> 02:03:39.937
<v Ms. Hardy>Shall we go on?</v>

02:03:39.937 --> 02:03:41.913
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah.</v>

02:03:41.913 --> 02:03:43.653
<v ->You're gonna vote on that one as we go?</v>

02:03:43.653 --> 02:03:45.035
<v ->Yeah, no, no, we need to.</v>

02:03:45.035 --> 02:03:48.576
Is there any objection to striking, "building a military"

02:03:48.576 --> 02:03:51.632
in 5A, at Grade 8, 5 A,

02:03:51.632 --> 02:03:54.503
striking "building a military," and "defining the authority

02:03:54.503 --> 02:03:55.760
"of the central government?"

02:03:55.760 --> 02:03:57.270
Any objection?

02:03:57.270 --> 02:03:58.483
Mr. Cortez.

02:03:58.483 --> 02:04:01.316
<v ->Yeah, I guess I have a question.</v>

02:04:02.623 --> 02:04:05.141
That was kind of the purpose of what

02:04:05.141 --> 02:04:09.558
we've been trying to do, but still early in the week,

02:04:10.499 --> 02:04:15.499
we just continue to add, and add, and add, and add, and so,

02:04:15.928 --> 02:04:20.511
I'm just wondering what's changed between then and now,

02:04:21.773 --> 02:04:25.170
that some of you got together, and thought, oh, now,

02:04:25.170 --> 02:04:28.222
we should actually listen and streamline.

02:04:28.222 --> 02:04:32.805
Because I'm seeing some of these and some of them seem,

02:04:34.952 --> 02:04:37.443
I don't see a need to have to touch any of this.

02:04:37.443 --> 02:04:41.110
I think, we had enough conversation, debate,

02:04:42.052 --> 02:04:45.426
both good and bad, and at the end,

02:04:45.426 --> 02:04:49.362
some of the stuff made it in, some of the stuff made it out.

02:04:49.362 --> 02:04:53.940
But I think at this point, we should just wrap this up,

02:04:53.940 --> 02:04:58.626
call it a day, and I don't think we should make

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any addition.

02:04:59.983 --> 02:05:01.026
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, certainly.</v>

02:05:01.026 --> 02:05:02.221
<v ->May I repeat myself, Madam Chair?</v>

02:05:02.221 --> 02:05:04.882
<v Ms. Bahorich>Um-huh, sure.</v>

02:05:04.882 --> 02:05:09.451
<v ->We've still realized that there was a greater need.</v>

02:05:09.451 --> 02:05:13.313
Some of us have been working on this for weeks.

02:05:13.313 --> 02:05:17.517
We have been responding to, months, years, (laughing)

02:05:17.517 --> 02:05:21.297
decades, we have responded to and have tried to respond

02:05:21.297 --> 02:05:23.313
to the public and so forth.

02:05:23.313 --> 02:05:27.722
And there are constantly people coming up with a better way

02:05:27.722 --> 02:05:29.090
of saying it or whatever--

02:05:29.090 --> 02:05:31.628
<v Ms. Cargill>Trying to be responsive to do that.</v>

02:05:31.628 --> 02:05:36.378
<v ->The point is, anything that we can do to simplify, we</v>

02:05:36.378 --> 02:05:40.462
discussed these things could be taken out and make life

02:05:40.462 --> 02:05:44.662
a little easier for that 8th and 11th grade teacher,

02:05:44.662 --> 02:05:47.441
and if you choose not to support it, that's fine,

02:05:47.441 --> 02:05:50.350
but I think, I would like to be able to share this

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with everyone else, and up or down, on whether or not,

02:05:53.876 --> 02:05:55.417
they would like to support it.

02:05:55.417 --> 02:05:57.026
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Mr. Bradley.</v>

02:05:57.026 --> 02:05:59.925
<v Mr. Bradley>On behalf of my fellow colleague over there,</v>

02:05:59.925 --> 02:06:03.278
on his behalf, I'd like to say, thank you for streamlining

02:06:03.278 --> 02:06:04.111
the TEKS.

02:06:05.088 --> 02:06:06.422
(laughing)

02:06:06.422 --> 02:06:07.255
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:06:07.255 --> 02:06:09.901
Alright members, with what's before us now, as stated

02:06:09.901 --> 02:06:12.045
previously, is to strike "building a military," and

02:06:12.045 --> 02:06:14.416
"defining the authority of the central government" for 5A

02:06:14.416 --> 02:06:15.249
in Grade 8.

02:06:15.249 --> 02:06:16.480
Oh, I'm sorry, Dr. Ellis.

02:06:16.480 --> 02:06:20.441
<v ->Just technical edit, there would be an and in there?</v>

02:06:20.441 --> 02:06:22.191
<v ->Yeah, and creating.</v>

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When we miss some of those, staff, please,

02:06:26.289 --> 02:06:27.976
they'll take care of it.

02:06:27.976 --> 02:06:30.885
So, we don't need to be too worried about it.

02:06:30.885 --> 02:06:32.826
All those in favor, say aye.

02:06:32.826 --> 02:06:34.025
<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:06:34.025 --> 02:06:34.901
All those opposed, say no.

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Motion is adopted, go 7D.

02:06:41.063 --> 02:06:44.109
<v ->7D, on page 17, this is removing and</v>

02:06:44.109 --> 02:06:48.997
including portion of that, the roles of John Quincy Adams,

02:06:48.997 --> 02:06:51.777
John C. Calhoun, Henry Clay, and Daniel Webster.

02:06:51.777 --> 02:06:55.087
This is much to the chagrins of Cargill

02:06:55.087 --> 02:06:57.748
because she's related to John C.Calhoun,

02:06:57.748 --> 02:06:59.907
so she didn't really like this idea,

02:06:59.907 --> 02:07:01.860
but we thought this could reduce it down a tad

02:07:01.860 --> 02:07:04.693
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, Mr. Mercer.</v>

02:07:07.178 --> 02:07:11.184
<v ->I just remembered, and I oppose the one part of</v>

02:07:11.184 --> 02:07:12.425
John Quincy Adams.

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And I've shared with it before,

02:07:14.014 --> 02:07:15.654
that was the first President that definitely

02:07:15.654 --> 02:07:16.768
did not own slaves.

02:07:16.768 --> 02:07:19.939
He ran for reelection, very bad election against Jackson,

02:07:19.939 --> 02:07:22.071
lost that, Jackson was a major slave owner.

02:07:22.071 --> 02:07:24.518
He talks about the effect of Congressional conflicts

02:07:24.518 --> 02:07:26.369
and compromises.

02:07:26.369 --> 02:07:28.542
Adams went back to Congress to fight slavery,

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and Congress put an 8 year gag rule

02:07:31.274 --> 02:07:33.188
which meant whenever he brought up slavery,

02:07:33.188 --> 02:07:36.079
he was immediately tabled.

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No discussion was allowed.

02:07:37.289 --> 02:07:39.573
So, I just got a little, personal thing,

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about John Quincy Adams, is he's a President,

02:07:40.913 --> 02:07:41.884
went back to Congress.

02:07:41.884 --> 02:07:43.838
He hated slavery, he tried to stop it,

02:07:43.838 --> 02:07:45.266
and he served for 16 years.

02:07:45.266 --> 02:07:47.506
And that's part of the Congressional conflicts

02:07:47.506 --> 02:07:50.889
and compromises, if you can call a gag rule a compromise,

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in whenever he brought up slavery.

02:07:52.988 --> 02:07:54.482
If you can imagine one us, any issue, trying to bring it up

02:07:54.482 --> 02:07:57.032
for 8 years, it was tabled.

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<v Man>Madam Chair.</v>

02:07:58.402 --> 02:08:01.157
<v ->I would be, I know there's no such thing as a friendly</v>

02:08:01.157 --> 02:08:04.131
amendment, but that could be rectified by just say,

02:08:04.131 --> 02:08:05.970
including John Quincy Adams.

02:08:05.970 --> 02:08:08.165
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, Mr. Rowley, then Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:08:08.165 --> 02:08:12.108
<v ->And I'm here, I'm okay with considering these</v>

02:08:12.108 --> 02:08:16.667
and considering these as we go, but I have a little bit

02:08:16.667 --> 02:08:21.038
of concern that on final reading, on Friday,

02:08:21.038 --> 02:08:25.938
we're making what I view are fairly substantive changes,

02:08:25.938 --> 02:08:27.688
at least with regard to this one.

02:08:27.688 --> 02:08:29.520
Now the other I understand is clarification,

02:08:29.520 --> 02:08:33.603
but I would be opposed to this amendment as well.

02:08:35.457 --> 02:08:38.104
And whether you pick John Quincy Adams or Daniel Webster,

02:08:38.104 --> 02:08:39.976
he happens to be one of my favorites.

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I'm gonna vote against this, because the process by which

02:08:44.665 --> 02:08:49.205
we're employing it, caused me a little bit of concern.

02:08:49.205 --> 02:08:50.985
'Cause I didn't wander by the meeting.

02:08:50.985 --> 02:08:52.273
I had no idea the meeting was going on.

02:08:52.273 --> 02:08:53.106
(laughing)

02:08:53.106 --> 02:08:54.733
<v Woman>With you invited, it might have kicked it over.</v>

02:08:54.733 --> 02:08:55.566
(laughing)

02:08:55.566 --> 02:08:58.470
<v ->May I say, that is perfectly alright.</v>

02:08:58.470 --> 02:09:01.124
We were just desperate trying to find something

02:09:01.124 --> 02:09:02.676
that would accommodate the streamlining,

02:09:02.676 --> 02:09:04.990
and I understand your concern,

02:09:04.990 --> 02:09:06.984
and I hate this at the last minute.

02:09:06.984 --> 02:09:09.931
But we have been working for a long time on this.

02:09:09.931 --> 02:09:13.172
And this is our last opportunity to clarify.

02:09:13.172 --> 02:09:15.585
So, I'm fine with whatever position, people take.

02:09:15.585 --> 02:09:17.350
<v ->And it was according to our rules, so I just wanna make</v>

02:09:17.350 --> 02:09:19.649
sure that you posted.

02:09:19.649 --> 02:09:20.482
<v ->Yeah.</v>

02:09:21.496 --> 02:09:23.912
I apologize, I mean I appreciate the effort.

02:09:23.912 --> 02:09:26.533
Don't get me wrong and I know many of you have spent

02:09:26.533 --> 02:09:28.235
a lot of time, effort on this.

02:09:28.235 --> 02:09:30.704
But I just saying that, I'm viewing it

02:09:30.704 --> 02:09:33.879
with a little bit more of a heavier analysis

02:09:33.879 --> 02:09:35.209
than I normally would.

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Same as Mr. Cortez.

02:09:36.290 --> 02:09:38.779
<v ->Okay, Mr., Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:09:38.779 --> 02:09:40.974
<v ->That said, and just a point of clarification</v>

02:09:40.974 --> 02:09:44.445
is that when you talk about the effects

02:09:44.445 --> 02:09:46.523
of Congressional conflicts and compromises

02:09:46.523 --> 02:09:50.189
is that necessarily it would include the roles

02:09:50.189 --> 02:09:54.516
of John Quincy Adams, Calhoun, Clay, and Webster.

02:09:54.516 --> 02:09:56.829
And I think, it's also worth noting is by the way,

02:09:56.829 --> 02:09:59.623
the textbooks are already published, it's still there.

02:09:59.623 --> 02:10:01.055
<v Man>And they're in there.</v>

02:10:01.055 --> 02:10:02.638
<v ->It's still there.</v>

02:10:04.368 --> 02:10:07.056
And, yeah, and so, alright.

02:10:07.056 --> 02:10:10.311
<v Ms. Bahorich>Can we go ahead and vote on --</v>

02:10:10.311 --> 02:10:11.737
<v Mr. Cortez>I just--</v>

02:10:11.737 --> 02:10:12.570
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Cortez.</v>

02:10:12.570 --> 02:10:13.942
<v ->I just also wanna, I guess agree</v>

02:10:13.942 --> 02:10:16.011
with Member Rowley, I mean.

02:10:16.011 --> 02:10:18.467
These are very substantive changes.

02:10:18.467 --> 02:10:21.819
The other one, may be technical.

02:10:21.819 --> 02:10:26.425
But this is not. You're deleting some very significant folks,

02:10:26.425 --> 02:10:28.774
and if it's a nepotism thing,

02:10:28.774 --> 02:10:31.836
'cause one of 'em's related to you.

02:10:31.836 --> 02:10:34.110
Member Cargill, she can vote against that one

02:10:34.110 --> 02:10:37.312
particular one and support the others, I don't know,

02:10:37.312 --> 02:10:40.645
but I will speak against this amendment.

02:10:41.490 --> 02:10:43.733
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, that's fine.</v>

02:10:43.733 --> 02:10:46.235
Okay, so the amendment before us.

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Do we wanna just, either have a whole list,

02:10:51.117 --> 02:10:53.125
or do we wanna talk about the John Quincy Adam?

02:10:53.125 --> 02:10:55.163
Or, 'cause right now we've got an amendment

02:10:55.163 --> 02:10:57.399
for the John Quincy Adam to stay in it.

02:10:57.399 --> 02:10:58.298
<v ->Madam Chair, if there's such opposition to this,</v>

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I would be happy to withdraw it.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Well now, let's see what the vote is.</v>

02:11:03.232 --> 02:11:05.815
Let's see what the vote is.

02:11:05.815 --> 02:11:08.332
No, I think we should see what the vote is.

02:11:08.332 --> 02:11:10.735
'Cause I don't know what, I don't know what the vote is.

02:11:10.735 --> 02:11:11.568
Okay.

02:11:11.568 --> 02:11:12.853
<v Ms. Crews>We've still got an amendment.</v>

02:11:12.853 --> 02:11:15.028
<v ->We do have an amendment.</v>

02:11:15.028 --> 02:11:17.983
So, let's go ahead and vote whether we want to keep

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the role of John Quincy Adams in this particular standard.

02:11:21.887 --> 02:11:25.096
All those in favor of keeping John Quincy Adam in there,

02:11:25.096 --> 02:11:29.544
before we take the vote on that other thing, say Aye.

02:11:29.544 --> 02:11:30.659
<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:11:30.659 --> 02:11:31.908
<v ->All those opposed, say nay.</v>

02:11:31.908 --> 02:11:33.516
<v Members>Nay.</v>

02:11:33.516 --> 02:11:35.406
Okay, hold your hands up.

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All those in favor or John Quincy Adams,

02:11:38.174 --> 02:11:39.616
the amendment for John Quincy Adams.

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Hold your hands up.

02:11:40.912 --> 02:11:41.916
<v Man>For that one.</v>

02:11:41.916 --> 02:11:42.749
Just for that one.

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Just the one name.

02:11:43.782 --> 02:11:45.244
<v Ms. Hardy>We're standing up for John.</v>

02:11:45.244 --> 02:11:47.077
<v ->And if I wanna keep all of it in, what--</v>

02:11:47.077 --> 02:11:49.686
<v ->Okay, are y'all counting?</v>

02:11:49.686 --> 02:11:52.601
You can vote for this and vote no on the whole thing.

02:11:52.601 --> 02:11:53.507
Right.

02:11:53.507 --> 02:11:55.404
Okay, so that passes.

02:11:55.404 --> 02:11:57.574
So, John Quincy's back.

02:11:57.574 --> 02:11:59.873
So now that, the amendment, now we're back

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to the original amendment which is going

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to be, identify the provisions and compare the effects

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of Congressional conflicts and compromises prior

02:12:07.234 --> 02:12:10.363
to the Civil War, including the role of John Quincy Adams.

02:12:10.363 --> 02:12:12.005
All those in favor.

02:12:12.005 --> 02:12:16.613
<v ->Your motion, ma'am, is to strike out John Calhoun,</v>

02:12:16.613 --> 02:12:18.563
Henry Clay, and Daniel Webster.

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<v ->Oh, that's true, that's true.</v>

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I'm so used to the substitutes,

02:12:22.206 --> 02:12:23.817
I forgot that's what we were doing.

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So, the only thing that's gonna be struck now

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is John C. Calhoun, Henry Clay, and Daniel Webster.

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<v Member>Yeah.</v>

02:12:30.171 --> 02:12:33.838
<v ->Okay, all those in favor, raise your hands</v>

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for this amendment.

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All those in favor, of striking those three names,

02:12:41.848 --> 02:12:43.265
raise your hands.

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All those in favor,

02:12:46.140 --> 02:12:47.227
raise your hands.

02:12:47.227 --> 02:12:49.587
I still don't see hands, is everybody got it?

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<v Members>They're up.</v>

02:12:50.704 --> 02:12:51.537
There's hands.

02:12:51.537 --> 02:12:52.621
<v ->But have we counted them?</v>

02:12:52.621 --> 02:12:54.753
Don't put them up and take 'em back down.

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How many, we got?

02:12:55.586 --> 02:12:56.419
<v Woman>Six.</v>

02:12:56.419 --> 02:13:00.336
<v ->Six, and all those opposed to this amendment?</v>

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Six and six.

02:13:05.165 --> 02:13:05.998
<v Man>Yes.</v>

02:13:05.998 --> 02:13:06.966
<v ->Strike it.</v>

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(laughing)

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Okay, next one.

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<v ->On page 21.</v>

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<v Man>The amendment failed.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>No, because I voted to strike</v>

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those three names.

02:13:19.182 --> 02:13:20.015
<v Woman>She cast a vote.</v>

02:13:20.015 --> 02:13:21.341
<v ->I cast a vote, 'cause it was six to six.</v>

02:13:21.341 --> 02:13:22.939
<v Mr. Rowley>What was the final vote?</v>

02:13:22.939 --> 02:13:24.261
<v ->Seven to six.</v>

02:13:24.261 --> 02:13:26.023
<v Ms. Crews>Seven to six in favor of striking</v>

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those three names.

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(mumbling)

02:13:28.424 --> 02:13:29.931
<v ->Those three names.</v>

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<v Mr. Mercer>I thought it was unfair that I got wronged.</v>

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(laughing)

02:13:35.947 --> 02:13:38.864
(members chatting)

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<v ->Okay, so, and I think you've got one more Ms. Hardy.</v>

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<v ->Another 8th grade one on page 21.</v>

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It was simply to remove the 26B--

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Let's find it on the page in our--</v>

02:13:53.729 --> 02:13:54.736
<v ->Page 21.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, page 21.</v>

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<v Man>What page on this one?</v>

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<v ->21.</v>

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(mumbling)

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<v ->It would.</v>

02:14:08.548 --> 02:14:12.013
<v Ms. Bahorich>Page 21 and it's 26B.</v>

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<v ->Twenty six B, and it was a C at one point.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>There was a C, but it would be striking</v>

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that one.

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<v ->It's just simply, that analyze the relationship</v>

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between fine arts and the continuity and change in

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American way of life.

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That was just for streamlining purposes only.

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(mumbling)

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Yes, and they all agreed.

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Yes, we did invite opinions from several leaders

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in the social studies world on these and they were

02:14:46.583 --> 02:14:47.666
in agreement.

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To strike it.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>All those in favor of striking 26B.</v>

02:14:53.125 --> 02:14:54.602
<v Mr. Rowley>Or such round of discussion.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, yes, sorry.</v>

02:14:55.986 --> 02:14:59.356
<v ->Okay, so if I'm understanding, we're striking,</v>

02:14:59.356 --> 02:15:03.502
"consideration of the relationship between the fine arts

02:15:03.502 --> 02:15:06.059
"and change in the American way of life."

02:15:06.059 --> 02:15:09.867
Is that essentially what that, am I reading that correctly?

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And so, we're saying our students don't have to study

02:15:14.464 --> 02:15:18.964
the effects of fine arts as they change American life,

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I'm opposed to that by the way.

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Just for the record, not only is this

02:15:24.202 --> 02:15:27.979
a last minute decision, for which we've not had

02:15:27.979 --> 02:15:30.772
any public or any input at all,

02:15:30.772 --> 02:15:35.062
but I personally value the Arts, and I think we all should.

02:15:35.062 --> 02:15:40.062
And I think our students should teach, should learn rather,

02:15:40.595 --> 02:15:45.019
the effect it has on community and on American life.

02:15:45.019 --> 02:15:47.365
So, I'm strongly opposed to that.

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<v Man>I'm for Normal Rockwell too.</v>

02:15:48.477 --> 02:15:49.310
<v ->Yeah.</v>

02:15:49.310 --> 02:15:50.360
<v Woman>It's in the books, whether it's</v>

02:15:50.360 --> 02:15:51.962
on the test or not.

02:15:51.962 --> 02:15:54.670
<v ->Yeah, well, I think it should be required.</v>

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So, I'll, that's what I'm saying.

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(mumbling)

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<v ->No more debate?</v>

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All those in favor of striking,

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All those in favor of striking 26 B, say, aye.

02:16:15.152 --> 02:16:16.298
<v Some Members>Aye.</v>

02:16:16.298 --> 02:16:18.981
<v ->All those opposed to striking 26 B?</v>

02:16:18.981 --> 02:16:20.387
<v Many Members>No.</v>

02:16:20.387 --> 02:16:23.999
<v ->Okay, all those in favor of striking, raise your hands?</v>

02:16:23.999 --> 02:16:26.582
All those in favor of striking.

02:16:29.088 --> 02:16:32.130
All those in favor of not striking, raise your hands.

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Okay, motion fails.

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Moving on.

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The arts are saved, yeah.

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Okay, now we're moving on.

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Is there any more for middle school?

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I wanna make sure.

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<v Woman>No ma'am.</v>

02:16:43.160 --> 02:16:45.899
<v ->No more for middle school.</v>

02:16:45.899 --> 02:16:48.586
Okay, now we're moving on to high school.

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<v ->High school.</v>

02:16:50.258 --> 02:16:54.091
This is on page 8 in the big, thick thing,

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towards the back.

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It's page 8 and it's the removal of Sanford B. Dole

02:17:03.593 --> 02:17:05.760
on page 8 from four A.

02:17:11.781 --> 02:17:13.059
<v ->Any discussion?</v>

02:17:13.059 --> 02:17:15.231
Just get rid of, get rid of--

02:17:15.231 --> 02:17:16.964
<v Mr. Cortez>Yes, why?</v>

02:17:16.964 --> 02:17:17.797
<v Ms. Hardy>Can you tell me what he's gunning for?</v>

02:17:17.797 --> 02:17:18.713
<v ->I'm asking you why?</v>

02:17:18.713 --> 02:17:19.615
You made the motion.

02:17:19.615 --> 02:17:20.772
I don't need to tell you, I'm asking you?

02:17:20.772 --> 02:17:23.118
<v Ms. Hardy>I'm asking you, do you know</v>

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what he's in there?

02:17:24.624 --> 02:17:26.489
<v ->He's in there, somebody put him in there,</v>

02:17:26.489 --> 02:17:27.432
he's significant.

02:17:27.432 --> 02:17:29.419
I'm simply asking the maker of the motion, why?

02:17:29.419 --> 02:17:33.845
<v ->Because we did not think that he was an absolute</v>

02:17:33.845 --> 02:17:37.139
do or die significant person, to his name.

02:17:37.139 --> 02:17:39.859
He is the can pineapple thing.

02:17:39.859 --> 02:17:41.192
<v Woman>He is?</v>

02:17:43.352 --> 02:17:45.935
<v Woman>This is Sanford Dole?</v>

02:17:46.961 --> 02:17:49.966
<v Woman>Member Hardy, when you say, we, can you explain</v>

02:17:49.966 --> 02:17:51.623
who we are?

02:17:51.623 --> 02:17:54.123
<v ->We were Sue, Barbara, and I, </v>

02:17:56.316 --> 02:17:59.614
were the three that worked on this yesterday afternoon.

02:17:59.614 --> 02:18:01.903
<v ->I just wanna reiterate the points that Member Rowley</v>

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has stated, these are very last minute changes.

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The changes have been made by members of this Board

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without input from the public, final reading,

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I'm gonna vote against all of these changes as well.

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<v ->And that, I reiterate, that it is fine.</v>

02:18:17.572 --> 02:18:20.139
We were just in an effort to make streamlining

02:18:20.139 --> 02:18:22.627
for which we've been criticized not doing,

02:18:22.627 --> 02:18:24.895
but I will say that we had several

02:18:24.895 --> 02:18:26.564
social studies coordinators,

02:18:26.564 --> 02:18:28.267
look at this yesterday afternoon,

02:18:28.267 --> 02:18:30.517
and they were in agreement.

02:18:32.252 --> 02:18:34.484
<v ->All those in favor of striking Sanford</v>

02:18:34.484 --> 02:18:39.484
Sanford B. Dole out of US History, four A, raise your hands.

02:18:40.256 --> 02:18:41.756
Favor of striking.

02:18:43.657 --> 02:18:45.024
How many is that?

02:18:45.024 --> 02:18:45.857
Five.

02:18:46.854 --> 02:18:51.402
All those in favor of keeping Sanford B. Dole.

02:18:51.402 --> 02:18:54.015
Okay, so Sanford stays in.

02:18:54.015 --> 02:18:55.224
Yay, for pineapples.

02:18:55.224 --> 02:18:56.641
Okay, now four E.

02:18:58.187 --> 02:19:01.918
<v ->Okay, four E, I'm taking out completely.</v>

02:19:01.918 --> 02:19:02.792
Not doing.

02:19:02.792 --> 02:19:04.492
<v Ms. Bahorich>Is it skip it?</v>

02:19:04.492 --> 02:19:06.135
<v ->Skip it.</v>

02:19:06.135 --> 02:19:10.052
Alright, this next one is on page nine, seven C

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and it was to simplify the information on the internment

02:19:16.987 --> 02:19:19.737
of to the Japanese Americans not

02:19:21.193 --> 02:19:23.302
including German and Italian.

02:19:23.302 --> 02:19:28.302
It was a big difference between how the German and Italian

02:19:28.383 --> 02:19:31.548
were treated in the internment camps and the travesty done

02:19:31.548 --> 02:19:33.123
to the Japanese.

02:19:33.123 --> 02:19:37.263
And so, when the teachers studied this, this is really,

02:19:37.263 --> 02:19:39.263
focuses on the Japanese.

02:19:40.192 --> 02:19:42.467
By having the German and Italian in there,

02:19:42.467 --> 02:19:46.150
it could be open to testing, but it's so insignificant

02:19:46.150 --> 02:19:48.035
in comparison to what the Japanese,

02:19:48.035 --> 02:19:51.317
that's why we would like the German and Italian removed.

02:19:51.317 --> 02:19:52.611
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Mercer.</v>

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<v Mr. Mercer>Just a question, 'cause part of that,</v>

02:19:53.896 --> 02:19:56.137
what I put in last time, was also the testimony,

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that you and I and Tincy worked on that,

02:19:57.661 --> 02:19:59.813
the 442nd Japanese American regiment.

02:19:59.813 --> 02:20:01.654
Is that still in there somewhere?

02:20:01.654 --> 02:20:02.787
<v Tincy>I don't know about that.</v>

02:20:02.787 --> 02:20:03.781
<v ->It's not 11th grade.</v>

02:20:03.781 --> 02:20:06.356
<v Mr. Mercer>No, it's there, it's there.</v>

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<v ->Okay, let's stick to this amendment.</v>

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All those in favor of striking German, Italian,

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and, raise your hand.

02:20:19.594 --> 02:20:22.390
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

02:20:22.390 --> 02:20:27.140
All those in favor, of retaining German and Italian, and.

02:20:28.835 --> 02:20:30.085
<v ->Seven to six.</v>

02:20:31.066 --> 02:20:33.223
<v ->Seven to six so.</v>

02:20:33.223 --> 02:20:35.868
<v Man>This is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.</v>

02:20:35.868 --> 02:20:37.915
<v ->So, what part if I voted, it'd still fail.</v>

02:20:37.915 --> 02:20:39.629
Even if I voted.

02:20:39.629 --> 02:20:42.712
Alright, so that motion fails, right?

02:20:43.929 --> 02:20:45.153
Am I correct?

02:20:45.153 --> 02:20:46.488
<v ->Seven to six.</v>

02:20:46.488 --> 02:20:48.571
<v ->Oh, it passes.</v>

02:20:48.571 --> 02:20:49.642
Oh, it passes.

02:20:49.642 --> 02:20:50.819
Okay.

02:20:50.819 --> 02:20:52.770
So, the motion is adopted.

02:20:52.770 --> 02:20:54.304
Okay, next one.

02:20:54.304 --> 02:20:55.637
<v ->Page 11, 11 C.</v>

02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:00.672
Had been 11 D.

02:21:00.672 --> 02:21:05.124
Analyze the impact of third parties on the 1992 and 2000

02:21:05.124 --> 02:21:08.903
Presidential elections that is the removal for the

02:21:08.903 --> 02:21:13.903
knowledge and skills statement, I mean, student expectation.

02:21:17.137 --> 02:21:21.307
Well, I repeat these words, streamlining (laughing)

02:21:21.307 --> 02:21:23.350
It is simply for streamlining purposes.

02:21:23.350 --> 02:21:25.589
This means that it would still be studied.

02:21:25.589 --> 02:21:27.433
It's in the text.

02:21:27.433 --> 02:21:29.149
It will not be removed from the text.

02:21:29.149 --> 02:21:33.825
It's just that this makes it open for testing purposes,

02:21:33.825 --> 02:21:37.682
and we're trying to knock down the tested--

02:21:37.682 --> 02:21:39.153
<v Woman>It's an essential.</v>

02:21:39.153 --> 02:21:41.308
<v ->Things, to essential things.</v>

02:21:41.308 --> 02:21:42.713
<v Mr. Cortez>And this is something that the three of you</v>

02:21:42.713 --> 02:21:45.796
decided was not essential right?

02:21:45.796 --> 02:21:46.823
You said there was three of you?

02:21:46.823 --> 02:21:47.699
Did I hear that?

02:21:47.699 --> 02:21:48.532
I just wanna make sure that I heard that correctly.

02:21:48.532 --> 02:21:51.091
There was three of you in this room discussing this?

02:21:51.091 --> 02:21:52.715
<v ->There were three of us working on it.</v>

02:21:52.715 --> 02:21:54.888
We worked with staff on it.

02:21:54.888 --> 02:21:59.772
With the social studies staff here and we had three,

02:21:59.772 --> 02:22:01.045
no four--

02:22:01.045 --> 02:22:01.992
(mumbling)

02:22:01.992 --> 02:22:04.801
Yes, but, and then, but we had four social studies

02:22:04.801 --> 02:22:07.269
coordinators who where in--

02:22:07.269 --> 02:22:10.071
<v Mr. Cortez>So, Ms. Perez was in there as well?</v>

02:22:10.071 --> 02:22:11.798
<v ->Yes, she was.</v>

02:22:11.798 --> 02:22:13.505
<v Woman>And it was posted (mumbling)</v>

02:22:13.505 --> 02:22:15.171
<v ->And it was posted.</v>

02:22:15.171 --> 02:22:18.057
I think guys, excuse me, Donna's a lot nicer person

02:22:18.057 --> 02:22:19.585
than I am.

02:22:19.585 --> 02:22:22.483
If you don't want it, just don't vote for it.

02:22:22.483 --> 02:22:25.566
(members discussing)

02:22:26.597 --> 02:22:28.553
<v ->I'm wondering if there's any other mention</v>

02:22:28.553 --> 02:22:30.720
of third parties in this--

02:22:31.843 --> 02:22:33.023
(members discussing)

02:22:33.023 --> 02:22:33.856
There is?

02:22:34.961 --> 02:22:38.059
<v Woman>It's in Government.</v>

02:22:38.059 --> 02:22:38.936
<v Man>Okay, where?</v>

02:22:38.936 --> 02:22:41.049
<v ->In U.S. History is the question.</v>

02:22:41.049 --> 02:22:42.973
<v Woman>Five C.</v>

02:22:42.973 --> 02:22:44.090
<v Woman>Five C.</v>

02:22:44.090 --> 02:22:47.398
<v Mr. Cortez>In U.S. History?</v>

02:22:47.398 --> 02:22:50.598
<v ->In U.S. History or from your department?</v>

02:22:50.598 --> 02:22:52.972
<v Ms. Perez>It's more of a civics student expectation,</v>

02:22:52.972 --> 02:22:54.972
than it is a historical.

02:22:56.693 --> 02:22:59.943
<v ->(members discussing)</v>

02:23:01.248 --> 02:23:02.783
Yeah.

02:23:02.783 --> 02:23:04.023
<v ->Any other discussion?</v>

02:23:04.023 --> 02:23:08.924
All those in favor of striking 11 C, raise your hands.

02:23:08.924 --> 02:23:10.275
That way we won't have, raise your hands if you're

02:23:10.275 --> 02:23:12.525
in favor of striking, 11 C.

02:23:16.178 --> 02:23:18.798
For these two elections.

02:23:18.798 --> 02:23:20.215
One, three, four.

02:23:21.157 --> 02:23:26.006
All those in favor of retaining 11 C raise your hands.

02:23:26.006 --> 02:23:28.923
I think that motion fails, correct?

02:23:30.033 --> 02:23:31.200
Okay, so 12 B.

02:23:33.782 --> 02:23:35.699
<v -12B for page 11,</v>

02:23:38.416 --> 02:23:40.249
is to remove that one,

02:23:41.219 --> 02:23:43.213
and it's "identify and explain reasons for changes

02:23:43.213 --> 02:23:45.700
"in political boundaries such as those resulting

02:23:45.700 --> 02:23:49.283
"from statehood and international conflicts."

02:23:51.404 --> 02:23:54.367
In an effort to streamline.

02:23:54.367 --> 02:23:57.274
It's a little bit ambiguous anyway, because it doesn't tell

02:23:57.274 --> 02:23:59.826
you what boundaries, political boundaries,

02:23:59.826 --> 02:24:01.857
and international conflicts.

02:24:01.857 --> 02:24:03.940
So, that is a very open,

02:24:03.940 --> 02:24:08.592
that's very open to testing questions that give the teachers

02:24:08.592 --> 02:24:10.249
no frame of reference.

02:24:10.249 --> 02:24:13.788
But again, it's just to kind of make it easier

02:24:13.788 --> 02:24:17.665
on the people that are having to test on this.

02:24:17.665 --> 02:24:22.332
<v ->All those in favor of striking 12 B, raise your hands.</v>

02:24:25.880 --> 02:24:27.148
8 people, okay.

02:24:27.148 --> 02:24:30.722
All those opposed, raise your hands.

02:24:30.722 --> 02:24:32.393
Okay, motion passes.

02:24:32.393 --> 02:24:33.726
Okay, number 23.

02:24:35.617 --> 02:24:37.555
<v ->Number 23 citizenship--</v>

02:24:37.555 --> 02:24:39.402
<v Ms. Bahorich>And what page?</v>

02:24:39.402 --> 02:24:43.776
<v ->This is, let me, this one's very confusing.</v>

02:24:43.776 --> 02:24:47.859
It is not really eliminating anybody or anything,

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it is simply moving--

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Page 14, I believe.</v>

02:24:53.671 --> 02:24:54.925
Is that right?

02:24:54.925 --> 02:24:56.063
<v ->Yes, it's on page 14, sorry.</v>

02:24:56.063 --> 02:25:00.472
It's simply moving Justice Sonya Sotomayor,

02:25:00.472 --> 02:25:05.389
up into the student expectation above, and then you get rid

02:25:06.870 --> 02:25:08.120
of all of 25 D.

02:25:10.273 --> 02:25:14.349
So, it's not changing anything, it's just compacting,

02:25:14.349 --> 02:25:17.599
if you will, the location of Sotomayor.

02:25:19.647 --> 02:25:22.146
<v ->Madam Chair, I should have taken the line out</v>

02:25:22.146 --> 02:25:25.600
of Hillary Clinton, but I didn't have the new copies,

02:25:25.600 --> 02:25:26.686
so I forgot.

02:25:26.686 --> 02:25:27.579
So, she's in.

02:25:27.579 --> 02:25:29.833
We should have gone back in on Wednesday.

02:25:29.833 --> 02:25:30.796
So, she's still there.

02:25:30.796 --> 02:25:31.882
So, everybody's still there.

02:25:31.882 --> 02:25:36.632
It's just moving, Rosa Parks is in U.S. History twice and

02:25:37.490 --> 02:25:40.119
so it's not removing her either.

02:25:40.119 --> 02:25:44.036
So, she's in, well I put it down there, Five C.

02:25:45.301 --> 02:25:47.148
So you can see where she is.

02:25:47.148 --> 02:25:51.898
So, it's just moving Sonya Sotomayor and then compacting.

02:25:53.848 --> 02:25:55.282
So, it's clarification.

02:25:55.282 --> 02:26:00.132
<v ->It is, it's not changing anything, except getting rid</v>

02:26:00.132 --> 02:26:03.049
of one of the student expectations

02:26:05.012 --> 02:26:08.344
and compacting it with the one top of it.

02:26:08.344 --> 02:26:11.427
(members discussing)

02:26:18.343 --> 02:26:19.824
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, Eleanor was added back in.</v>

02:26:19.824 --> 02:26:21.444
<v ->No, Eleanor was not.</v>

02:26:21.444 --> 02:26:23.333
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, Eleanor failed.</v>

02:26:23.333 --> 02:26:24.948
The other day.

02:26:24.948 --> 02:26:28.049
<v Woman>She was added back on on Wednesday, I believe.</v>

02:26:28.049 --> 02:26:30.899
<v ->I've, in the paper, she failed.</v>

02:26:30.899 --> 02:26:33.135
I mean, she didn't fail, but we failed to add her back in.

02:26:33.135 --> 02:26:33.968
<v ->I made the recommendation,</v>

02:26:33.968 --> 02:26:36.901
and I did not win that recommendation.

02:26:36.901 --> 02:26:39.912
<v Woman>Our notes show that that amendment passed,</v>

02:26:39.912 --> 02:26:44.329
so Eleanor Roosevelt, was added back in on Wednesday.

02:26:46.329 --> 02:26:50.621
<v ->Okay, so Eleanor Roosevelt, was added back in.</v>

02:26:50.621 --> 02:26:55.204
I wanna make sure we've got this amendment right, here.

02:26:57.143 --> 02:27:00.143
So, I thought it passed as well, so.

02:27:02.051 --> 02:27:03.358
<v Man>Can you explain this again?</v>

02:27:03.358 --> 02:27:05.610
Where are you moving (mumbling)

02:27:05.610 --> 02:27:08.036
<v Man>What page in the?</v>

02:27:08.036 --> 02:27:09.536
<v Woman>Page 14.</v>

02:27:11.999 --> 02:27:14.378
<v ->I will say this about Eleanor.</v>

02:27:14.378 --> 02:27:16.460
I thought I made that recommendation

02:27:16.460 --> 02:27:18.460
and I thought it failed.

02:27:21.044 --> 02:27:23.294
<v ->It thought it failed too.</v>

02:27:26.271 --> 02:27:28.757
<v ->I've been chewing everybody out for not supporting me.</v>

02:27:28.757 --> 02:27:31.007
(laughing)

02:27:33.889 --> 02:27:35.889
Sorry about that, sorry.

02:27:37.881 --> 02:27:39.970
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Beltran.</v>

02:27:39.970 --> 02:27:41.301
<v ->Thank you Madam Chair.</v>

02:27:41.301 --> 02:27:43.270
I will also speak against this amendment.

02:27:43.270 --> 02:27:47.103
25 D is identifying the contributions of women

02:27:49.016 --> 02:27:53.392
and I think eliminating 25 D, deleting, is a disservice.

02:27:53.392 --> 02:27:57.142
And I think students should be specifically,

02:27:58.741 --> 02:28:01.153
teachers should be specifically directed to teach

02:28:01.153 --> 02:28:04.221
about the contributions of women in the United States.

02:28:04.221 --> 02:28:05.245
<v ->Good catch on that actually.</v>

02:28:05.245 --> 02:28:07.035
Yeah, Mr. Rowley.

02:28:07.035 --> 02:28:08.529
<v ->And if I'm reading this correctly.</v>

02:28:08.529 --> 02:28:12.505
You're also deleting political and social leaders

02:28:12.505 --> 02:28:14.285
in the United States.

02:28:14.285 --> 02:28:19.227
And I, one of the reasons for my vote, on Wednesday,

02:28:19.227 --> 02:28:23.773
was that I recognized that a particular individual

02:28:23.773 --> 02:28:27.809
who received a great deal of attention, got put back in,

02:28:27.809 --> 02:28:30.717
was a political, significant political leader.

02:28:30.717 --> 02:28:35.717
And so, I would, I would have, I'm gonna vote against it,

02:28:35.835 --> 02:28:40.688
because political leaders are specifically defined there

02:28:40.688 --> 02:28:44.105
as compared to just a generic leadership.

02:28:46.366 --> 02:28:48.937
<v Woman>It would be struck out, and I kept it,</v>

02:28:48.937 --> 02:28:51.182
for some reason, I've done something funky with mine.

02:28:51.182 --> 02:28:54.428
<v ->Okay, so the amendment before us is to strike this one,</v>

02:28:54.428 --> 02:28:59.178
but add Sonya Sotomayor, to the above, standard for 23 A,

02:29:00.190 --> 02:29:04.357
but also eliminate political and social, in there.

02:29:07.585 --> 02:29:10.355
And well, we would end up adding Eleanor in there,

02:29:10.355 --> 02:29:14.236
because she wasn't struck the other day.

02:29:14.236 --> 02:29:16.569
Eleanor and Sonya Sotomayor.

02:29:18.428 --> 02:29:20.390
All those in favor, raise your hands.

02:29:20.390 --> 02:29:21.323
<v Ms. Beltran>I have a question.</v>

02:29:21.323 --> 02:29:22.791
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Beltran.</v>

02:29:22.791 --> 02:29:24.824
<v ->Madam Chair, I just wanna clarify that in addition</v>

02:29:24.824 --> 02:29:28.603
to this amendment that also would mean that the next

02:29:28.603 --> 02:29:31.520
25, yeah, thank you, 25 D would be.

02:29:33.644 --> 02:29:35.299
Well, I guess--

02:29:35.299 --> 02:29:38.070
<v Ms. Hardy>It's being presented as a single thing.</v>

02:29:38.070 --> 02:29:41.961
<v ->They seem to be and I think it is important to make clear,</v>

02:29:41.961 --> 02:29:45.265
because again, to the point of--

02:29:45.265 --> 02:29:46.161
<v Ms. Bahorich>D would be struck.</v>

02:29:46.161 --> 02:29:47.668
Right to the women, right.

02:29:47.668 --> 02:29:48.681
<v Ms. Perez>Did you say that women were not</v>

02:29:48.681 --> 02:29:50.098
a cultural group?

02:29:50.981 --> 02:29:53.814
<v ->Okay, so the amendment before us</v>

02:29:56.549 --> 02:29:57.799
is to collapse,

02:30:00.133 --> 02:30:01.966
25 D into 26 C, right?

02:30:08.122 --> 02:30:08.955
Or 23 A?

02:30:11.896 --> 02:30:15.787
And you would add Sonya Sotomayor and Eleanor Roosevelt

02:30:15.787 --> 02:30:17.161
in there.

02:30:17.161 --> 02:30:18.227
<v Dr. Ellis>Parliamentary inquiry.</v>

02:30:18.227 --> 02:30:19.060
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:30:19.060 --> 02:30:20.422
<v ->I'm gonna vote against this for the reasons</v>

02:30:20.422 --> 02:30:23.962
that have been stated, but if it does pass,

02:30:23.962 --> 02:30:25.806
are we adding Eleanor Roosevelt or are we gonna go back

02:30:25.806 --> 02:30:28.454
and look at the record to see or are we gonna stick to,

02:30:28.454 --> 02:30:29.838
I know there's some discrepancy here.

02:30:29.838 --> 02:30:31.421
Are we gonna sticking to what the original vote was.

02:30:31.421 --> 02:30:32.358
<v Ms. Martinez>So, the vote on Eleanor Roosevelt</v>

02:30:32.358 --> 02:30:34.508
was seven to six and I think that's why

02:30:34.508 --> 02:30:36.531
there was some confusion.

02:30:36.531 --> 02:30:38.289
<v ->Seven to six, to, for her to be there.</v>

02:30:38.289 --> 02:30:39.519
<v ->Seven to six to add her back in.</v>

02:30:39.519 --> 02:30:41.102
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay.</v>

02:30:44.793 --> 02:30:47.126
<v ->No, I didn't vote on that.</v>

02:30:48.301 --> 02:30:49.184
Okay.

02:30:49.184 --> 02:30:52.259
(members discussing)

02:30:52.259 --> 02:30:56.249
<v Man>And do we have Sonya's name spelled correctly?</v>

02:30:56.249 --> 02:30:58.411
<v Woman>I don't know.</v>

02:30:58.411 --> 02:30:59.994
<v ->I think, I think.</v>

02:31:01.814 --> 02:31:03.208
It'll be fine.

02:31:03.208 --> 02:31:04.859
I mean, the staff will fix things like that.

02:31:04.859 --> 02:31:08.442
Okay, all those in favor of, deleting 25 D,

02:31:10.691 --> 02:31:12.520
putting those two names,

02:31:12.520 --> 02:31:16.887
Eleanor Roosevelt and Sonya Sotomayor, into 23 A,

02:31:16.887 --> 02:31:18.304
raise your hands.

02:31:20.393 --> 02:31:21.753
<v ->We're supporting that.</v>

02:31:21.753 --> 02:31:22.666
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:31:22.666 --> 02:31:25.369
All those opposed, raise your hands.

02:31:25.369 --> 02:31:27.069
Motion fails.

02:31:27.069 --> 02:31:27.902
Okay

02:31:32.470 --> 02:31:33.303
23 B.

02:31:35.020 --> 02:31:37.353
<v ->23B on page 15,</v>

02:31:42.594 --> 02:31:43.427
is, yikes.

02:31:46.174 --> 02:31:47.629
<v Woman>Oh, we've got the wrong one, or?</v>

02:31:47.629 --> 02:31:50.221
<v ->I don't know what 23 B, was erasing.</v>

02:31:50.221 --> 02:31:53.040
(mumbling)

02:31:53.040 --> 02:31:53.873
<v ->Just a move.</v>

02:31:53.873 --> 02:31:55.332
<v ->Oh, okay, I'm sorry.</v>

02:31:55.332 --> 02:31:58.165
It's simply, that's just a moving.

02:31:59.499 --> 02:32:03.358
Moving 25E to be the new 23B, and moving 25E reflects

02:32:03.358 --> 02:32:07.101
an improved context in which to study these individuals.

02:32:07.101 --> 02:32:09.728
Their accomplishments reflect those of leaders as opposed

02:32:09.728 --> 02:32:12.154
to cultural contributions.

02:32:12.154 --> 02:32:14.737
So, these people were leaders,

02:32:17.127 --> 02:32:19.977
instead of cultural contributions.

02:32:19.977 --> 02:32:23.788
The Medal of Honor winners are leaders in

02:32:23.788 --> 02:32:27.955
what they get recognized for not for cultural contributions.

02:32:27.955 --> 02:32:30.705
It's just simply a clarification.

02:32:32.457 --> 02:32:35.160
<v ->So, same exact thing, it's just moved to a different area.</v>

02:32:35.160 --> 02:32:37.420
<v ->Just moved to a different, under a different,</v>

02:32:37.420 --> 02:32:40.003
knowledge and skills statement.

02:32:41.482 --> 02:32:43.565
<v ->Does everyone see that?</v>

02:32:44.460 --> 02:32:47.606
All those in favor, raise your hands.

02:32:47.606 --> 02:32:49.515
All those in favor of just moving them up

02:32:49.515 --> 02:32:51.869
to a different context.

02:32:51.869 --> 02:32:53.001
Okay.

02:32:53.001 --> 02:32:56.141
All those opposed, raise your hands.

02:32:56.141 --> 02:32:58.685
Okay, motion carries.

02:32:58.685 --> 02:33:02.518
<v ->Okay, we're on 27 A, and this is on page 15.</v>

02:33:04.891 --> 02:33:07.974
And it's, this is another collapsing.

02:33:09.196 --> 02:33:13.641
We have 27 B that says explain how space technology

02:33:13.641 --> 02:33:16.157
and exploration improve the quality of life.

02:33:16.157 --> 02:33:20.512
And what we've done is put space exploration,

02:33:20.512 --> 02:33:23.297
meaning the same thing as space technology

02:33:23.297 --> 02:33:26.547
up in the previous student expectation.

02:33:29.614 --> 02:33:31.978
So, it would read, "analyze how scientific discoveries,

02:33:31.978 --> 02:33:35.044
"technological innovations, space exploration, and

02:33:35.044 --> 02:33:39.476
"the application of these by giving, by these,

02:33:39.476 --> 02:33:40.473
"by the free enterprise system,

02:33:40.473 --> 02:33:43.297
"improves the standard of living in the United States

02:33:43.297 --> 02:33:45.147
"including transportation and communications."

02:33:45.147 --> 02:33:46.879
<v Mr. Rowley>Madam Chair.</v>

02:33:46.879 --> 02:33:48.208
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Mr. Rowley.</v>

02:33:48.208 --> 02:33:50.024
<v Mr. Rowley>If I'm understanding the gist of this,</v>

02:33:50.024 --> 02:33:53.574
by deleting B, your taking the concept

02:33:53.574 --> 02:33:57.832
of quality of life out of the expectations.

02:33:57.832 --> 02:33:59.677
<v ->And moving it to standard of living</v>

02:33:59.677 --> 02:34:02.092
in the United States.
<v ->In the United States.</v>

02:34:02.092 --> 02:34:04.219
Well, the standard of living in the United States

02:34:04.219 --> 02:34:06.213
already exists in 27 A.

02:34:06.213 --> 02:34:08.643
<v ->Right, and that's why we're just putting the space</v>

02:34:08.643 --> 02:34:10.372
exports, space technologies, a part of that.

02:34:10.372 --> 02:34:13.725
<v ->Right, but to look at, again, by striking B,</v>

02:34:13.725 --> 02:34:17.331
the concept of the quality of life and how it's affected

02:34:17.331 --> 02:34:21.300
or improved by space technology and exploration globally,

02:34:21.300 --> 02:34:24.265
or otherwise, is taken out of the equation.

02:34:24.265 --> 02:34:26.094
(mumbling)

02:34:26.094 --> 02:34:27.571
<v ->That well, still.</v>

02:34:27.571 --> 02:34:29.594
Is the answer to my question, yes?

02:34:29.594 --> 02:34:34.178
That we're taking quality of life as an affect,

02:34:34.178 --> 02:34:37.837
or as an improvement that has out of the expectation.

02:34:37.837 --> 02:34:39.942
<v ->Well, we looked at standard of living as the same</v>

02:34:39.942 --> 02:34:41.855
as quality of life.

02:34:41.855 --> 02:34:45.530
<v ->Okay, I don't, but I'll just be in opposition to that.</v>

02:34:45.530 --> 02:34:47.556
Because I think quality of life and standard of living

02:34:47.556 --> 02:34:50.990
are two different things, but that's fine.

02:34:50.990 --> 02:34:53.987
<v ->Wanna point out that this is an expectation about</v>

02:34:53.987 --> 02:34:56.321
the United States specifically.

02:34:56.321 --> 02:34:59.852
'Cause it says, up in the knowledge and skills statement

02:34:59.852 --> 02:35:01.435
to that affect.

02:35:01.435 --> 02:35:03.416
<v ->Madam Chair, if I could add just a little bit</v>

02:35:03.416 --> 02:35:05.549
of clarification to Mr. Rowley's point.

02:35:05.549 --> 02:35:07.881
For an assessment perspective,

02:35:07.881 --> 02:35:10.460
it's difficult to differentiate between improving

02:35:10.460 --> 02:35:13.520
the standard of living and the quality of life, so,

02:35:13.520 --> 02:35:17.312
it would not have a significant impact

02:35:17.312 --> 02:35:21.895
on how this particular knowledge and skill is assessed.

02:35:24.104 --> 02:35:25.646
<v ->I still think quality of life and standard are two</v>

02:35:25.646 --> 02:35:28.492
different things, and so I'm gonna vote against it.

02:35:28.492 --> 02:35:30.210
That's okay.

02:35:30.210 --> 02:35:32.660
<v ->Alright, any other discussion?</v>

02:35:32.660 --> 02:35:35.327
All those in favor of deleting B

02:35:36.663 --> 02:35:40.996
and adding space exploration to A, raise your hands.

02:35:48.400 --> 02:35:52.650
Okay and then, all those opposed, raise your hands.

02:35:56.030 --> 02:35:59.416
Okay, so the motion is adopted.

02:35:59.416 --> 02:36:01.456
Alright, and that's all for U.S. History, correct?

02:36:01.456 --> 02:36:02.867
Do we have any others?

02:36:02.867 --> 02:36:04.055
Okay, World History is--

02:36:04.055 --> 02:36:05.681
<v Ms. Perez>No, I've got some.</v>

02:36:05.681 --> 02:36:07.014
<v ->Oh, I'm sorry.</v>

02:36:08.160 --> 02:36:12.386
<v ->If you'll look at page four, of my document,</v>

02:36:12.386 --> 02:36:13.469
and then on--

02:36:15.252 --> 02:36:16.648
<v Woman>U.S. History.</v>

02:36:16.648 --> 02:36:17.481
<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

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(audio cutting out)

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<v ->One, 1C.</v>

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Is that the one we're doing?

02:36:41.759 --> 02:36:43.395
History.

02:36:43.395 --> 02:36:45.924
Okay, so this would be back to Gina's amendment

02:36:45.924 --> 02:36:47.234
with the purple.

02:36:47.234 --> 02:36:48.134
<v Ms. Perez>Yes.</v>

02:36:48.134 --> 02:36:50.467
<v ->Our amendment page, 1C.</v>

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Where are we?

02:36:57.788 --> 02:36:58.874
<v Ms. Perez>Again, these are--</v>

02:36:58.874 --> 02:37:00.330
<v ->Can you put your mic.</v>

02:37:00.330 --> 02:37:04.330
<v ->These are the first three are just, I'm sorry,</v>

02:37:06.569 --> 02:37:11.069
the first four on this document are simply improvement

02:37:12.015 --> 02:37:13.015
of the verb.

02:37:19.637 --> 02:37:21.133
<v Ms. Bahorich>So, instead of discuss,</v>

02:37:21.133 --> 02:37:22.176
it would say describe.

02:37:22.176 --> 02:37:23.767
<v ->Right.</v>

02:37:23.767 --> 02:37:25.805
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay yeah, Mr. Rowley.</v>

02:37:25.805 --> 02:37:28.955
<v ->And just for the record, by the way, I want to note</v>

02:37:28.955 --> 02:37:33.955
that Member Perez, brought these issues up on Wednesday.

02:37:34.152 --> 02:37:36.954
About changing these different, the language of these

02:37:36.954 --> 02:37:40.874
different items and that we had agreed that we would take

02:37:40.874 --> 02:37:42.269
it up again on Friday.

02:37:42.269 --> 02:37:43.323
<v Ms. Perez>Right.</v>

02:37:43.323 --> 02:37:44.773
<v ->So, just for the record, I view these changes differently</v>

02:37:44.773 --> 02:37:46.270
than some of the others that have been submitted.

02:37:46.270 --> 02:37:47.549
<v Ms. Bahorich>That's fine.</v>

02:37:47.549 --> 02:37:49.865
<v ->I will take that as a compliment and I will also take</v>

02:37:49.865 --> 02:37:53.079
your vote in support of my motions. (laughing)

02:37:53.079 --> 02:37:55.043
<v Mr Rowley>So far, you got me.</v>

02:37:55.043 --> 02:37:56.028
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

02:37:56.028 --> 02:37:57.552
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, so--</v>

02:37:57.552 --> 02:38:00.744
<v ->Can we take the first four in one motion as they are all</v>

02:38:00.744 --> 02:38:02.169
just verb improvements?

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Or no?

02:38:04.141 --> 02:38:05.391
<v Woman>Not E, right?</v>

02:38:05.391 --> 02:38:07.318
<v ->Correct, that would be the fifth.</v>

02:38:07.318 --> 02:38:08.419
(mumbling)

02:38:08.419 --> 02:38:09.454
Oh, yes.

02:38:09.454 --> 02:38:11.674
(laughing)

02:38:11.674 --> 02:38:14.119
<v ->Really, I guess the question--</v>

02:38:14.119 --> 02:38:15.310
<v ->Well, I can do them one at a time and go quickly,</v>

02:38:15.310 --> 02:38:17.081
if you'll pull 'em out of the large document.

02:38:17.081 --> 02:38:21.392
<v ->I just had a real quick question on 1C.</v>

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What, was there a reason that like the word explain,

02:38:25.201 --> 02:38:28.201
was not chosen rather than describe?

02:38:30.554 --> 02:38:33.554
<v ->When we look at the definition on,</v>

02:38:35.179 --> 02:38:40.179
my definitions on page one of my amendments document,

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describe is--

02:38:43.357 --> 02:38:46.241
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, explain versus describe.</v>

02:38:46.241 --> 02:38:48.608
<v ->Right, so the definitions of describe and explain</v>

02:38:48.608 --> 02:38:51.375
are there, and so I think that might address your question.

02:38:51.375 --> 02:38:52.991
<v ->Oh okay, let me.</v>

02:38:52.991 --> 02:38:54.241
Oh, here we go.

02:38:55.526 --> 02:38:59.407
<v Ms. Perez>Perhaps that's the answer you're looking for.</v>

02:38:59.407 --> 02:39:01.014
<v Woman>Explain the meaning of</v>

02:39:01.014 --> 02:39:03.181
<v ->Oh, explain the meaning.</v>

02:39:04.659 --> 02:39:05.807
Oh, okay.

02:39:05.807 --> 02:39:08.093
Explain the meaning might be better.

02:39:08.093 --> 02:39:10.357
<v ->Okay, so then, 1C, would be explain the meaning.</v>

02:39:10.357 --> 02:39:11.570
<v Ms. Bahorich>If there's no objection,</v>

02:39:11.570 --> 02:39:12.455
we'll do explain the meaning.

02:39:12.455 --> 02:39:13.321
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:39:13.321 --> 02:39:14.721
<v ->All those in favor, say Aye.</v>

02:39:14.721 --> 02:39:15.554
<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:39:15.554 --> 02:39:17.583
<v ->All those opposed, say nay.</v>

02:39:17.583 --> 02:39:22.281
So, it'll be explain the meaning although that passes.

02:39:22.281 --> 02:39:23.487
<v ->Ready?</v>

02:39:23.487 --> 02:39:24.320
<v ->18 D.</v>

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Oh, this is Government, right?

02:39:27.240 --> 02:39:28.783
Or no, within U.S. History.

02:39:28.783 --> 02:39:30.145
<v ->It's within, yes.</v>

02:39:30.145 --> 02:39:30.978
Number 18.

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On the larger document, it is -

02:39:37.593 --> 02:39:38.908
<v Ms. Bahorich>18 D, 13.</v>

02:39:38.908 --> 02:39:39.908
<v ->Thank you.</v>

02:39:41.109 --> 02:39:43.942
(papers rustling)

02:39:51.475 --> 02:39:52.889
<v Ms. Bahorich>So, that would be to go</v>

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from discuss to describe.

02:40:01.551 --> 02:40:02.902
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:40:02.902 --> 02:40:05.123
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any objection to that change?</v>

02:40:05.123 --> 02:40:06.803
Seeing none.

02:40:06.803 --> 02:40:07.708
Alright.

02:40:07.708 --> 02:40:08.634
<v ->Thank you.</v>

02:40:08.634 --> 02:40:09.534
<v Ms. Bahorich>And then 20.</v>

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<v ->Number 20, I believe is on the same page.</v>

02:40:12.094 --> 02:40:12.927
Yes.

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And it is letter B,

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and rather than discussing historical reasons,

02:40:23.194 --> 02:40:26.704
I'm requesting that we explain why.

02:40:26.704 --> 02:40:28.260
<v Ms. Bahorich>Wait a minute, where?</v>

02:40:28.260 --> 02:40:31.343
Maybe I'm not, oh discuss, oh, I see.

02:40:33.690 --> 02:40:35.755
<v Ms. Cargill>I have a question.</v>

02:40:35.755 --> 02:40:37.752
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Cargill.</v>

02:40:37.752 --> 02:40:41.169
<v ->Shelly, taking out historical reasons,</v>

02:40:42.996 --> 02:40:47.079
that would change the way, what is tested, right?

02:40:49.877 --> 02:40:51.074
(laughing)

02:40:51.074 --> 02:40:53.657
<v Shelly>We don't believe so.</v>

02:40:56.320 --> 02:40:57.259
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:40:57.259 --> 02:40:59.446
<v ->Given that it gives the time frame,</v>

02:40:59.446 --> 02:41:01.696
it's in this particular SE.

02:41:03.331 --> 02:41:05.822
<v ->Any other questions?</v>

02:41:05.822 --> 02:41:08.800
Is there any opposition to that change.

02:41:08.800 --> 02:41:10.550
Seeing none, alright.

02:41:11.976 --> 02:41:16.559
<v ->Cultural on number 25, I believe is the next page on,</v>

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the way it exists currently is,

02:41:28.942 --> 02:41:30.477
discussed the Americanization.

02:41:30.477 --> 02:41:33.946
And what I'm requesting is describe and explain

02:41:33.946 --> 02:41:36.351
the Americanization movement to assimilate immigrants,

02:41:36.351 --> 02:41:39.739
and American Indians into American culture.

02:41:39.739 --> 02:41:44.209
If we ask for a, not only to describe but explain

02:41:44.209 --> 02:41:47.542
would also include the cause and effect.

02:41:50.298 --> 02:41:51.661
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any objection to that change?</v>

02:41:51.661 --> 02:41:52.494
Okay.

02:41:53.606 --> 02:41:54.882
<v ->Thank you.</v>

02:41:54.882 --> 02:41:57.799
We'll mention number E, on page 15.

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I believe this is just for clarification and perhaps,

02:42:03.385 --> 02:42:04.218
because--

02:42:05.346 --> 02:42:07.373
<v ->And I'll point out that, that has been relocated now</v>

02:42:07.373 --> 02:42:08.206
to 23 B.

02:42:09.300 --> 02:42:12.608
<v ->23 B, is not where it is, but, so it'd be 23 B.</v>

02:42:12.608 --> 02:42:15.025
<v ->Okay, yes ma'am, thank you.</v>

02:42:18.369 --> 02:42:19.326
We just spent the last--

02:42:19.326 --> 02:42:20.936
<v ->We just did a move.</v>

02:42:20.936 --> 02:42:22.936
<v ->It moved to 23 B, but.</v>

02:42:25.830 --> 02:42:27.126
<v Ms. Bahorich>And now, this is an amendment</v>

02:42:27.126 --> 02:42:28.666
to the actual--

02:42:28.666 --> 02:42:29.972
<v ->Right, so rather than saying the discuss</v>

02:42:29.972 --> 02:42:30.886
the importance of,

02:42:30.886 --> 02:42:34.803
I'm asking to describe the actions that led to.

02:42:39.035 --> 02:42:40.483
(mumbling)

02:42:40.483 --> 02:42:43.478
<v ->It's really just how to teach it and then how to,</v>

02:42:43.478 --> 02:42:45.093
so that way we make sure the way it's taught

02:42:45.093 --> 02:42:46.809
is the way it's assessed.

02:42:46.809 --> 02:42:48.788
<v Man>That's not a clarification, it's like --</v>

02:42:48.788 --> 02:42:50.665
<v ->It's more of a, well it, what?</v>

02:42:50.665 --> 02:42:52.140
<v Woman>This is a bigger change, yeah.</v>

02:42:52.140 --> 02:42:52.973
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:42:54.503 --> 02:42:58.798
<v ->Because now what they would be assessed on would be</v>

02:42:58.798 --> 02:43:01.175
describing the actions, like the process, right?

02:43:01.175 --> 02:43:03.621
Of how they got the award,

02:43:03.621 --> 02:43:06.829
I wanna make sure the kids are looking

02:43:06.829 --> 02:43:10.395
at what Lieutenant Vernon Baker did,

02:43:10.395 --> 02:43:12.139
but what it makes it looks like, is

02:43:12.139 --> 02:43:13.722
like what happened.

02:43:16.965 --> 02:43:19.133
(sighs heavily)

02:43:19.133 --> 02:43:22.120
This is a little bit confusing to me.

02:43:22.120 --> 02:43:23.027
<v Man>Yeah, this is.</v>

02:43:23.027 --> 02:43:24.530
<v Man>Yeah.</v>

02:43:24.530 --> 02:43:27.912
<v Mr. Mercer>I kinda like the change but this late,</v>

02:43:27.912 --> 02:43:28.871
this is a big change.

02:43:28.871 --> 02:43:30.848
This is talking about we know it's the greatest honor.

02:43:30.848 --> 02:43:32.881
We got people representative of Dick Harris, we've got,

02:43:32.881 --> 02:43:34.706
but now we're talking about describing the action,

02:43:34.706 --> 02:43:36.226
could be the processes, could be

02:43:36.226 --> 02:43:38.413
what each one specifically did.

02:43:38.413 --> 02:43:39.749
And that could be testable, right?

02:43:39.749 --> 02:43:42.808
It could be said, what did Vernon do, what did Benavidez do?

02:43:42.808 --> 02:43:46.039
<v ->Well it's already tested from a different version.</v>

02:43:46.039 --> 02:43:47.706
And so, describing--

02:43:48.614 --> 02:43:52.364
Describing the actions, is how the, which is,

02:43:54.045 --> 02:43:56.628
led to the result of receiving.

02:43:59.246 --> 02:44:02.474
So, it's an assessment question.

02:44:02.474 --> 02:44:05.365
<v ->So, the way, it's currently written</v>

02:44:05.365 --> 02:44:07.734
is that a student's discussing the importance

02:44:07.734 --> 02:44:09.991
of the recipients.

02:44:09.991 --> 02:44:13.664
The way it's suggested to be revised is if the student's

02:44:13.664 --> 02:44:17.153
gonna describe the actions that led to the award

02:44:17.153 --> 02:44:19.574
of the Congressional Medal of Honor.

02:44:19.574 --> 02:44:24.120
So, I think to Mrs. Cargill's point, it's about, it seems

02:44:24.120 --> 02:44:24.976
it's a little bit vague.

02:44:24.976 --> 02:44:28.157
It seems to be more process as opposed to the significance

02:44:28.157 --> 02:44:29.740
of the individuals.

02:44:33.675 --> 02:44:36.708
(members discussing)

02:44:36.708 --> 02:44:39.131
<v ->Yeah, that would be my concern.</v>

02:44:39.131 --> 02:44:44.131
Is that certainly, we can describe what we did around

02:44:44.208 --> 02:44:47.477
the circle right here, but it doesn't necessarily attribute

02:44:47.477 --> 02:44:51.115
to that action, the significance of it, or the impact of it,

02:44:51.115 --> 02:44:53.448
so that would be my concern.

02:44:59.169 --> 02:45:01.855
<v Ms. Bahorich>Ms. Perez, did you just want to make one</v>

02:45:01.855 --> 02:45:03.869
more point and then we'll just take the vote.

02:45:03.869 --> 02:45:07.528
<v ->So, ultimately, and if you'll please clarify this for me.</v>

02:45:07.528 --> 02:45:10.623
Describing the actions that led to the award.

02:45:10.623 --> 02:45:12.829
The reason that we're describing the actions is because

02:45:12.829 --> 02:45:15.747
of what these individuals did and then the result,

02:45:15.747 --> 02:45:16.640
about the cause and effect.

02:45:16.640 --> 02:45:19.946
The result being that they were awarded, so,

02:45:19.946 --> 02:45:22.029
that is what's tested or?

02:45:23.444 --> 02:45:26.945
Or what's tested is only that they received

02:45:26.945 --> 02:45:27.778
an award?

02:45:27.778 --> 02:45:31.995
<v ->So, what's currently tested is the significance</v>

02:45:31.995 --> 02:45:34.619
of the individuals who received an award,

02:45:34.619 --> 02:45:38.135
which probably would focus on their actions that earned them

02:45:38.135 --> 02:45:41.263
the Congressional Medal of Honor.

02:45:41.263 --> 02:45:44.733
The way, I think the way, it's currently proposed

02:45:44.733 --> 02:45:48.900
to be amended, would create some confusion for us

02:45:50.063 --> 02:45:51.380
in writing an assessment item.

02:45:51.380 --> 02:45:55.773
Are we assessing the actions that led to the award?

02:45:55.773 --> 02:45:58.788
One suggestion that I might make is that you describe

02:45:58.788 --> 02:46:02.393
the actions of the individuals, because I think that's

02:46:02.393 --> 02:46:06.768
ultimately what you'd like to focus on, correct?

02:46:06.768 --> 02:46:08.913
<v ->The actions taken by the individuals that resulted</v>

02:46:08.913 --> 02:46:12.633
in them receiving the award, right?

02:46:12.633 --> 02:46:15.127
No, that's not what we want students to know.

02:46:15.127 --> 02:46:16.977
What do we want students to know?

02:46:16.977 --> 02:46:18.843
That these individuals received the award,

02:46:18.843 --> 02:46:21.695
or what they did to receive the award?

02:46:21.695 --> 02:46:24.112
<v ->(mumbling)</v>

02:46:26.472 --> 02:46:27.305
<v ->Madam Chair.</v>

02:46:27.305 --> 02:46:28.138
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:46:28.138 --> 02:46:29.529
<v ->So, I think that this,</v>

02:46:29.529 --> 02:46:32.529
(audio cutting out)

02:46:35.480 --> 02:46:37.925
when we're actually revising standards,

02:46:37.925 --> 02:46:40.863
not streamlining standards, 'cause this would change, I mean,

02:46:40.863 --> 02:46:44.675
but I do see what the importance would be of our students

02:46:44.675 --> 02:46:48.660
knowing what led to this individual getting

02:46:48.660 --> 02:46:51.438
this recognition, but I don't think that this

02:46:51.438 --> 02:46:53.688
is the right time for that.

02:46:58.059 --> 02:47:01.963
<v ->So describe the actions of individuals.</v>

02:47:01.963 --> 02:47:03.948
Does that clar, does that make it correct?

02:47:03.948 --> 02:47:08.922
Or how, how does it need to be worded to make it correct,

02:47:08.922 --> 02:47:12.889
so that the way it's taught is the way it's tested?

02:47:12.889 --> 02:47:15.505
Or is that the way it's already written?

02:47:15.505 --> 02:47:19.867
<v ->Okay, so maybe if you could tell us what you want</v>

02:47:19.867 --> 02:47:24.534
to be taught and then we could help you reword this one.

02:47:25.892 --> 02:47:28.188
<v ->For the streamlining, it's more about.</v>

02:47:28.188 --> 02:47:31.914
<v ->For the streamlining, it's not about changing the test</v>

02:47:31.914 --> 02:47:33.319
right now, right?

02:47:33.319 --> 02:47:35.527
It's about simplifying the standards,

02:47:35.527 --> 02:47:40.110
so what is your recommendation for this simplification?

02:47:50.075 --> 02:47:54.537
<v ->So my recommendation, would be that you leave it as is.</v>

02:47:54.537 --> 02:47:57.187
Because I think it's clearer both to teachers

02:47:57.187 --> 02:48:00.485
and to the folks who write the assessment items.

02:48:00.485 --> 02:48:02.621
That the focus is on the importance

02:48:02.621 --> 02:48:06.538
of the Congressional Medal of Honor recipients.

02:48:09.653 --> 02:48:11.170
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, but should we change</v>

02:48:11.170 --> 02:48:12.999
discuss to explain.

02:48:12.999 --> 02:48:15.144
Because that's what she was trying to get rid of was all

02:48:15.144 --> 02:48:17.617
these discuss ones.

02:48:17.617 --> 02:48:20.030
<v Shelly>Yeah, that wouldn't have an impact.</v>

02:48:20.030 --> 02:48:22.146
<v ->Okay, if there's no objection,</v>

02:48:22.146 --> 02:48:24.382
we're gonna just do one change.

02:48:24.382 --> 02:48:28.418
<v ->Madam Chair, so you might, there's also significance</v>

02:48:28.418 --> 02:48:31.122
in this, such as we've been having those conversations,

02:48:31.122 --> 02:48:34.205
about what, how the such as impacts

02:48:37.237 --> 02:48:38.487
what we assess.

02:48:39.565 --> 02:48:41.671
So that would be the other thing that

02:48:41.671 --> 02:48:43.471
you could consider there.

02:48:43.471 --> 02:48:46.638
If you wanted to try to be more clear.

02:48:49.276 --> 02:48:51.546
Well, so if you have, so if you have,

02:48:51.546 --> 02:48:53.680
so I guess the question is,

02:48:53.680 --> 02:48:57.905
those particular Medal of Honor recipients,

02:48:57.905 --> 02:49:01.084
are those the ones that you intend to be the focus?

02:49:01.084 --> 02:49:04.804
If you do, then perhaps, it isn't a such as, you just say

02:49:04.804 --> 02:49:07.474
that it should be the importance

02:49:07.474 --> 02:49:09.990
of those particular individuals.

02:49:09.990 --> 02:49:14.256
<v ->So completely narrow it down to just these individuals,</v>

02:49:14.256 --> 02:49:16.459
or have a broader discussion, one of the two,

02:49:16.459 --> 02:49:18.248
that includes these individuals.

02:49:18.248 --> 02:49:19.182
<v ->Right.</v>

02:49:19.182 --> 02:49:20.015
<v ->Right?</v>

02:49:21.414 --> 02:49:23.586
So,the question is to leave it as a such as

02:49:23.586 --> 02:49:27.898
or to just concentrate on just these individuals.

02:49:27.898 --> 02:49:30.148
(mumbling)

02:49:32.396 --> 02:49:35.300
No, she's suggesting that these are the only ones

02:49:35.300 --> 02:49:36.752
to be studied.

02:49:36.752 --> 02:49:39.002
(mumbling)

02:49:42.531 --> 02:49:44.155
Mr. Rowley, do you?

02:49:44.155 --> 02:49:46.865
<v ->Well, I would be opposed to changing that from</v>

02:49:46.865 --> 02:49:49.545
such as to anything else, because then it's more

02:49:49.545 --> 02:49:52.012
than a streamlining, it's a substantive change and

02:49:52.012 --> 02:49:54.092
you're bringing those individuals into the field

02:49:54.092 --> 02:49:55.370
of study.

02:49:55.370 --> 02:49:56.859
Whereas now, it's such as.

02:49:56.859 --> 02:50:00.173
And I also, again, would reiterate that I don't believe

02:50:00.173 --> 02:50:02.880
this is something that we should be considering on a Friday

02:50:02.880 --> 02:50:04.380
of second reading.

02:50:08.760 --> 02:50:11.971
<v ->Just for clarification, if we don't use included,</v>

02:50:11.971 --> 02:50:15.054
imagine what the test will look like.

02:50:16.057 --> 02:50:18.363
<v ->Fact is, it will look like right now.</v>

02:50:18.363 --> 02:50:20.030
That's what I think.

02:50:24.317 --> 02:50:25.839
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, let's go ahead and vote on this one.</v>

02:50:25.839 --> 02:50:30.107
So, now you're amendment, you want it to read what?

02:50:30.107 --> 02:50:31.475
'Cause I want to make sure we know what

02:50:31.475 --> 02:50:33.519
we're voting on here.

02:50:33.519 --> 02:50:35.519
What are you suggesting?

02:50:36.824 --> 02:50:38.752
<v ->Explain the importance.</v>

02:50:38.752 --> 02:50:40.258
<v ->Okay, so that's the only change now.</v>

02:50:40.258 --> 02:50:41.670
Okay, okay.

02:50:41.670 --> 02:50:42.835
<v ->This is what you had said.</v>

02:50:42.835 --> 02:50:44.464
<v ->Okay, just that simple change, explain the importance,</v>

02:50:44.464 --> 02:50:47.159
leave everything else alone.

02:50:47.159 --> 02:50:48.596
So, change the verb only.

02:50:48.596 --> 02:50:49.989
All those in favor of changing the verb

02:50:49.989 --> 02:50:52.869
from discuss to explain, say Aye.

02:50:52.869 --> 02:50:54.375
<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:50:54.375 --> 02:50:58.840
<v ->All those opposed to changing from discussed to explain,</v>

02:50:58.840 --> 02:51:00.240
say nay.

02:51:00.240 --> 02:51:02.240
Okay, motion is adopted.

02:51:07.523 --> 02:51:11.440
Okay, was there anything else for U.S. History.

02:51:17.052 --> 02:51:18.635
Okay, where are we?

02:51:20.677 --> 02:51:23.222
Okay, so let's go ahead and take up Government.

02:51:23.222 --> 02:51:25.046
Or should we do, I don't know what's on the list.

02:51:25.046 --> 02:51:26.409
What's the next.

02:51:26.409 --> 02:51:27.335
<v Woman>World History.</v>

02:51:27.335 --> 02:51:29.752
<v ->It's World History is next.</v>

02:51:31.080 --> 02:51:31.913
Okay, World History is next.

02:51:31.913 --> 02:51:33.921
Okay, let's do that.

02:51:33.921 --> 02:51:36.060
Get rid of those, okay.

02:51:36.060 --> 02:51:39.761
That's 8 B I believe is the first one.

02:51:39.761 --> 02:51:42.605
Unless somebody has something else.

02:51:42.605 --> 02:51:43.917
8 B.

02:51:43.917 --> 02:51:45.767
<v ->It's on page 20.</v>

02:51:45.767 --> 02:51:47.967
8 B is on page 20.

02:51:47.967 --> 02:51:51.460
And this is, combines the intent of two standards,

02:51:51.460 --> 02:51:53.793
in the effort to streamline.

02:51:56.466 --> 02:52:00.981
It uses the clauses that were in C, and just simply says

02:52:00.981 --> 02:52:04.900
causes and puts in, I mean in B, and puts the clauses in C.

02:52:04.900 --> 02:52:09.053
So, you would get rid of "identify the major political

02:52:09.053 --> 02:52:11.681
"economic and social motivations that influenced European

02:52:11.681 --> 02:52:14.878
"imperialism and explained the causes

02:52:14.878 --> 02:52:17.895
"which were, in fact, political, economic,

02:52:17.895 --> 02:52:19.579
"and social motivations,

02:52:19.579 --> 02:52:23.482
"major characteristics and impact of European imperialism."

02:52:23.482 --> 02:52:26.781
It is, no substance has changed except that it just

02:52:26.781 --> 02:52:29.781
compacts the two standards into one.

02:52:38.370 --> 02:52:40.537
This is not a tested area.

02:52:46.645 --> 02:52:48.991
<v ->So much, it's not state tested.</v>

02:52:48.991 --> 02:52:50.824
It's not STAAR tested.

02:52:51.948 --> 02:52:53.615
Trust me, I tested--

02:52:54.550 --> 02:52:56.161
<v ->Okay, any discussion about that change?</v>

02:52:56.161 --> 02:53:00.328
So, getting rid of B, and putting, causes, into C.

02:53:05.002 --> 02:53:06.303
Do you see any impact?

02:53:06.303 --> 02:53:08.313
Well no, it's not state assessment.

02:53:08.313 --> 02:53:10.396
Sorry, we just said that.

02:53:11.581 --> 02:53:15.001
All those in favor of that change, say Aye.

02:53:15.001 --> 02:53:17.011
<v Ms. Cargill>Explain major characteristics.</v>

02:53:17.011 --> 02:53:19.398
<v ->Oh, you wanna keep, okay.</v>

02:53:19.398 --> 02:53:22.558
You wanna, did you have a question about that?

02:53:22.558 --> 02:53:25.452
<v Ms. Cargill>Explain the causes</v>

02:53:25.452 --> 02:53:27.943
and describe the characteristics?

02:53:27.943 --> 02:53:30.860
(members chatting)

02:53:34.150 --> 02:53:36.211
<v ->Okay, so the amendment is to explain,</v>

02:53:36.211 --> 02:53:39.794
to add the word causes to D, to C, 8 C.

02:53:42.460 --> 02:53:45.812
And so it'd say, explain the causes, major characteristics,

02:53:45.812 --> 02:53:49.420
and impact of European imperialism.

02:53:49.420 --> 02:53:51.471
<v Man>And it's also strike the top letter.</v>

02:53:51.471 --> 02:53:53.304
<v ->And to get rid of B.</v>

02:53:58.688 --> 02:54:00.581
<v ->I don't know if it's possible</v>

02:54:00.581 --> 02:54:02.831
to explain characteristics.

02:54:04.993 --> 02:54:07.910
(members chatting)

02:54:10.991 --> 02:54:13.241
Because you described them.

02:54:15.155 --> 02:54:18.610
And this is the issue with verbs.

02:54:18.610 --> 02:54:20.088
(mumbling)

02:54:20.088 --> 02:54:21.504
Well, if you leave it alone, it's still ambiguous

02:54:21.504 --> 02:54:23.802
and that doesn't simplify.

02:54:23.802 --> 02:54:26.678
<v ->Okay, you're on the mic, so.</v>

02:54:26.678 --> 02:54:29.408
(members chatting)

02:54:29.408 --> 02:54:31.171
Any other comments on that?

02:54:31.171 --> 02:54:32.838
Any other commments?

02:54:34.366 --> 02:54:35.986
Do you need a minute or are you ready to vote?

02:54:35.986 --> 02:54:37.269
<v Man>Vote.</v>

02:54:37.269 --> 02:54:38.506
<v ->Okay, let's vote on that.</v>

02:54:38.506 --> 02:54:41.516
All those in favor, raise your hand.

02:54:41.516 --> 02:54:44.516
All those in favor, raise your hand.

02:54:48.086 --> 02:54:49.635
Okay, five, okay.

02:54:49.635 --> 02:54:52.635
All those opposed, raise your hands.

02:54:58.872 --> 02:55:00.872
<v ->Okay, so motion fails.</v>

02:55:01.845 --> 02:55:03.348
Alright, next one.

02:55:03.348 --> 02:55:05.098
<v ->The next one is 14.</v>

02:55:06.012 --> 02:55:07.944
It's on page 21.

02:55:07.944 --> 02:55:11.729
And this was one, if my fellow board members would remember

02:55:11.729 --> 02:55:15.451
that we were trying to just get the verbiage correctly done,

02:55:15.451 --> 02:55:17.335
grammatically correct.

02:55:17.335 --> 02:55:20.835
And we worked on this for quite some time.

02:55:22.598 --> 02:55:25.385
By putting the second half of the 20th century and the

02:55:25.385 --> 02:55:29.969
early 21st century in the knowledge and skills statements,

02:55:29.969 --> 02:55:34.669
it made it a lot less cumbersome for putting it in A and B.

02:55:34.669 --> 02:55:38.739
So, what would happen is the knowledge and skills statement

02:55:38.739 --> 02:55:41.362
says, "student understands the development of radical

02:55:41.362 --> 02:55:45.868
"Islamic terrorism in the second half of the 20th century

02:55:45.868 --> 02:55:47.765
"and the early 21st century.

02:55:47.765 --> 02:55:51.118
"The student is expected to discuss the impact

02:55:51.118 --> 02:55:55.904
"of geo-political influences on the development of radical

02:55:55.904 --> 02:55:59.071
"Islamic terrorism period or semicolon.

02:56:00.112 --> 02:56:04.324
"B, discuss the impact radical Islamic terrorism

02:56:04.324 --> 02:56:05.741
"on global events.

02:56:07.059 --> 02:56:10.976
"And C, explain the U.S., well, explain the U.S.

02:56:12.102 --> 02:56:16.986
"response to the events surrounding September 11th, 2001

02:56:16.986 --> 02:56:20.653
"and other acts of radical Islamic terrorism."

02:56:21.755 --> 02:56:24.917
It was sort of a, everything's still in there, that was

02:56:24.917 --> 02:56:27.119
what we were trying to get in there,

02:56:27.119 --> 02:56:31.702
but it's more grammatically aligned and says it better.

02:56:33.689 --> 02:56:35.737
<v Mr. Maynard>Madam Chair.</v>

02:56:35.737 --> 02:56:37.193
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:56:37.193 --> 02:56:40.556
<v ->And so, I think that, and I know that some of you have</v>

02:56:40.556 --> 02:56:45.045
some concerns about the 11th hour amendments.

02:56:45.045 --> 02:56:47.177
But this is in fact, one that we've been trying

02:56:47.177 --> 02:56:49.825
to hammer through and trying to find a resolution to, so.

02:56:49.825 --> 02:56:53.914
That, I think, that a lot of us can probably

02:56:53.914 --> 02:56:55.903
feel comfortable with that, so.

02:56:55.903 --> 02:56:58.903
<v ->The only thing that I would say is, by develop,</v>

02:56:58.903 --> 02:57:01.586
by striking, "and use," I think that doesn't line up

02:57:01.586 --> 02:57:05.169
with the rest of the SE's that are in here.

02:57:06.133 --> 02:57:07.690
<v Ms. Hardy>What are you saying?</v>

02:57:07.690 --> 02:57:11.060
<v ->It's strike "and use," cause it does say now,</v>

02:57:11.060 --> 02:57:12.188
that student understands the development

02:57:12.188 --> 02:57:15.900
and use of radical Islamic terrorism in the second half,

02:57:15.900 --> 02:57:16.939
blah, blah, blah,

02:57:16.939 --> 02:57:19.471
but your voting to strike, or you're suggesting to strike

02:57:19.471 --> 02:57:20.423
"and use of terrorism."

02:57:20.423 --> 02:57:21.256
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:57:21.256 --> 02:57:25.333
<v ->And I think that doesn't align with what's, cause B says</v>

02:57:25.333 --> 02:57:28.000
"discuss the impact of terrorism."

02:57:28.912 --> 02:57:30.944
Yet, it's the use of terrorism also.

02:57:30.944 --> 02:57:34.290
It's not just the development of terrorism that is being

02:57:34.290 --> 02:57:36.123
discussed in the SE's.

02:57:37.710 --> 02:57:39.266
Do you see what I'm saying there?

02:57:39.266 --> 02:57:41.516
(mumbling)

02:57:42.822 --> 02:57:44.104
Yes, Ms. Perez.

02:57:44.104 --> 02:57:46.754
<v ->Because this is another discuss, would you accept</v>

02:57:46.754 --> 02:57:48.887
the word, explain, as we're looking at cause and effect

02:57:48.887 --> 02:57:50.305
rather than the term discuss?

02:57:50.305 --> 02:57:51.138
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes.</v>

02:57:51.138 --> 02:57:52.138
<v ->Thank you.</v>

02:57:53.993 --> 02:57:55.151
<v Ms. Hardy>If there's no objection.</v>

02:57:55.151 --> 02:57:57.015
<v ->If there's no objection, we'll substitute for A,</v>

02:57:57.015 --> 02:57:58.564
it would say "explain the impact

02:57:58.564 --> 02:58:02.789
"of geopolitical influences" and B, sorry.

02:58:02.789 --> 02:58:06.140
(members chatting)

02:58:06.140 --> 02:58:09.101
Yeah, and that, is there any objection to putting in, use,

02:58:09.101 --> 02:58:11.288
back in there to line up with the SE's.

02:58:11.288 --> 02:58:13.702
<v Ms. Hardy>I have not gotten that in the first place, so.</v>

02:58:13.702 --> 02:58:15.541
<v ->Okay, all those in favor, say, aye.</v>

02:58:15.541 --> 02:58:16.572
<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:58:16.572 --> 02:58:17.861
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

02:58:17.861 --> 02:58:19.361
Motion is adopted.

02:58:20.853 --> 02:58:21.743
And that's all you got?

02:58:21.743 --> 02:58:22.576
Okay.

02:58:24.039 --> 02:58:28.348
Okay, and I think Ms. Perez, you had a few more.

02:58:28.348 --> 02:58:30.676
Which, which course is next?

02:58:30.676 --> 02:58:33.176
Is it Government or Geography?

02:58:35.830 --> 02:58:37.496
Government.

02:58:37.496 --> 02:58:40.413
(members chatting)

02:58:41.342 --> 02:58:44.950
<v ->Madam Chair, I think there's one on World History</v>

02:58:44.950 --> 02:58:47.867
on the bottom of page three of six.

02:58:48.830 --> 02:58:51.663
(papers rustling)

02:58:55.169 --> 02:58:58.641
<v ->Bottom of page three on your document.</v>

02:58:58.641 --> 02:58:59.474
28 C.

02:59:02.748 --> 02:59:03.915
Your document.

02:59:05.550 --> 02:59:07.160
<v Ms. Bahorich>My document.</v>

02:59:07.160 --> 02:59:08.395
<v ->Yep.</v>

02:59:08.395 --> 02:59:09.228
<v ->28 C.</v>

02:59:13.074 --> 02:59:16.907
Okay, so, 28 C, examine is changed to analyze.

02:59:17.750 --> 02:59:20.417
<v ->Yes, it's another verb change.</v>

02:59:23.772 --> 02:59:28.605
Any opposition to, or do I see any opposition to that one?

02:59:30.487 --> 02:59:35.237
Changing from examine to analyze in Social studies skills

02:59:36.294 --> 02:59:38.377
28 C under World History.

02:59:39.412 --> 02:59:40.363
Seeing none.

02:59:40.363 --> 02:59:42.818
That amendment passes.

02:59:42.818 --> 02:59:45.735
(members chatting)

02:59:47.622 --> 02:59:49.478
<v Shelly>Madam Chair, I apologize.</v>

02:59:49.478 --> 02:59:51.871
I wasn't fast enough on that.

02:59:51.871 --> 02:59:54.050
So, it's a little awkward.

02:59:54.050 --> 02:59:57.255
Analyze primary sources to analyze?

02:59:57.255 --> 02:59:58.920
<v ->Oh, yeah.</v>

02:59:58.920 --> 03:00:02.920
<v ->I don't know if the redundancy is intentional.</v>

03:00:05.614 --> 03:00:08.614
(audio cutting out)

03:00:19.001 --> 03:00:22.043
Staff has offered up a suggestion of perhaps changing the

03:00:22.043 --> 03:00:24.376
second analyze to determine.

03:00:26.321 --> 03:00:27.374
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yep.</v>

03:00:27.374 --> 03:00:29.478
<v Ms. Perez>Okay, thank you.</v>

03:00:29.478 --> 03:00:33.923
<v ->Okay, is there any objection to that recommendation,</v>

03:00:33.923 --> 03:00:35.565
'cause that's a good one.

03:00:35.565 --> 03:00:36.516
So, we'll change it.

03:00:36.516 --> 03:00:38.900
Now, it will read, analyze the primary and secondary,

03:00:38.900 --> 03:00:41.790
what is those in those for?

03:00:41.790 --> 03:00:43.407
Those, what does that mean?

03:00:43.407 --> 03:00:44.424
<v Ms. Hardy>It struck three.</v>

03:00:44.424 --> 03:00:46.628
<v ->Oh, it's struck three, okay, sorry.</v>

03:00:46.628 --> 03:00:50.044
Okay, so now it would say, 28 C, would say analyze primary

03:00:50.044 --> 03:00:53.372
and secondary sources to determine frame of reference,

03:00:53.372 --> 03:00:56.607
historical context, and point of view.

03:00:56.607 --> 03:00:58.420
Any objection to those changes?

03:00:58.420 --> 03:00:59.369
Hearing none.

03:00:59.369 --> 03:01:00.202
Okay.

03:01:04.729 --> 03:01:09.286
And now we're on Government and I think 1E.

03:01:09.286 --> 03:01:10.522
Is that correct?

03:01:10.522 --> 03:01:12.010
Let's go to the right page.

03:01:12.010 --> 03:01:16.681
<v ->World Geography would be next within the document.</v>

03:01:16.681 --> 03:01:21.239
<v ->Well, but I think in our, in this document, is Government.</v>

03:01:21.239 --> 03:01:23.489
So, let's go to Government.

03:01:24.587 --> 03:01:25.420
And we'll go one.

03:01:25.420 --> 03:01:27.920
And what page is that on here?

03:01:37.005 --> 03:01:37.838
Oops.

03:01:37.838 --> 03:01:39.781
<v ->We need to go back to World Geography.</v>

03:01:39.781 --> 03:01:41.201
<v Ms. Perez>World Geography?</v>

03:01:41.201 --> 03:01:42.241
<v ->Go back to do.</v>

03:01:42.241 --> 03:01:44.780
<v ->World Geography is not the World History.</v>

03:01:44.780 --> 03:01:47.112
<v ->Oh, it is World Geography.</v>

03:01:47.112 --> 03:01:47.972
So, sorry.

03:01:47.972 --> 03:01:49.805
Kay was trying to keep us straight here.

03:01:49.805 --> 03:01:52.071
So, World Geography is the next one.

03:01:52.071 --> 03:01:56.654
Okay, so in the purple handout, it would be page three.

03:01:58.384 --> 03:02:00.795
Oh sorry, not page three, page two.

03:02:00.795 --> 03:02:04.462
Because you've got one on the previous page.

03:02:05.460 --> 03:02:07.221
Which is something C.

03:02:07.221 --> 03:02:08.692
What C?

03:02:08.692 --> 03:02:10.368
Describe how physical processes.

03:02:10.368 --> 03:02:12.904
(laughing)

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<v Woman>That's just a grammatical correction.</v>

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<v ->What?</v>

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<v Woman>It's 3C ma'am.</v>

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<v ->Okay, somehow, I am not.</v>

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What page is it on on this handout?

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<v Woman>I can't help you with that.</v>

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<v ->Is it 27.</v>

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<v Woman>Page 27.</v>

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<v ->Okay, thank you staff.</v>

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Okay, so 27, and now it should be 3C?

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<v ->Yes, it should have been with reader.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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So now it says,

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examine the physical processes

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that okay.

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<v ->So, if we ask to describe how physical processes</v>

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rather than--

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<v Woman>It says examine the physical processes.</v>

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<v ->If we ask to describe rather than to examine.</v>

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What we're asking for then, becomes,

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to, we're asking the students to do is recall

03:03:32.408 --> 03:03:34.658
the significance of, right?

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<v ->I'm not sure I understand the differences</v>

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between these two phrases.

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They seem the same to me except for the verb.

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Have the staff kind of look at that, this change.

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'Cause I don't see any difference in the actual.

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I mean it's just flipping and putting, such as.

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After processes.

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Except for the verb change.

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The reordering?

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<v Shelly>Yeah, so I think the reordering is an improvement</v>

03:04:20.726 --> 03:04:22.726
on the current standard.

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<v ->Describe you think is better use of that term there,</v>

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instead of examine?

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<v ->So, describe how and examine, I think it's narrowing it in</v>

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a little bit more.

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It's actually about the process itself and how it affects

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the lithosphere, atmosphere, hydrosphere, and biosphere.

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<v ->Okay, alright.</v>

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Is there any objection to that change?

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So now it would read, instead of examine, it would say

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"describe how, physical processes such as hurricanes,

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"El Nino, earthquakes, and volcanoes affect the lithosphere,

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"atmosphere, hydrosphere, and biosphere."

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Any objection to that change?

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Hearing none.

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Alright.

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<v ->Next, is 7D.</v>

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Again, from examine to analyze.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>So, instead of examine, it'll say analyze.</v>

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<v Ms. Perez>That's the request, yes.</v>

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Any objection to that change.

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Hearing none.

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<v ->10 D, would change examine to evaluate.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Any objection?</v>

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<v Shelly>So, Madam Chair, that does have a fairly</v>

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significant impact on what that would look like

03:06:14.027 --> 03:06:16.095
in a classroom.

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So, now rather than investigating the implications,

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now they're being asked to judge.

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So, just wanted to --

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Evaluate.</v>

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<v ->So, we can go to explain.</v>

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<v ->Well right now it says examine.</v>

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Is that?

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What?

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What?

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(members discussing)

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Higher order than.</v>

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Do you want to change that or pull it?

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<v Ms. Perezz>Well, what I want to know is how examine</v>

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is tested?

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<v ->Well, it's not tested, except locally.</v>

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<v Shelly>On this course crit.</v>

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<v ->It's still tested, and the goal is not only what's tested</v>

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by the state, but continuity across courses.

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<v ->So examine, is probably closer to analysis.</v>

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It would be tested in a manner more similar to analysis,

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where it doesn't require just a simple knowledge.

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The student is actually going to a deeper

03:07:21.080 --> 03:07:23.231
cognitive level on that.

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<v ->Then analyze, right?</v>

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Because it then, then the verbs very clear.

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Right?

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Because the test is in analysis, or what's tested

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is the analysis?

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So, analyze would make it much clearer, correct?

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<v ->You're keeping the same level of cognitive complexity</v>

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I would say, if you make it analyze.

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<v Ms. Perez>Thank you.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>As examine?</v>

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<v Ms. Perez>So, analyze.</v>

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So the cognitive demand remains the same, and it narrows

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the teaching testing.

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Thank you.

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So, the cognitive demand remains the same,

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and using the word, analyze, narrows the teaching testing

03:07:58.635 --> 03:07:59.635
verb, right?

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Did I understand that correctly?

03:08:04.350 --> 03:08:07.067
<v ->I'm not sure that it necessarily narrows the verb,</v>

03:08:07.067 --> 03:08:10.093
but you're correct in that it keeps

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the same cognitive complexity.

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<v Ms. Perez>Thank you.</v>

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<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes.</v>

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<v Woman>Shelly, I thought at the beginning you said it would change the (audio cutting out).</v>

03:08:19.740 --> 03:08:23.148
<v ->Changing to evaluate, but now she's changing to analyze.</v>

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(audio cutting out)

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<v ->Oh, I'm sorry.</v>

03:08:32.067 --> 03:08:34.201
<v ->Okay, say analyze instead of evaluate?</v>

03:08:34.201 --> 03:08:36.732
<v ->Yes ma'am, I'm asking to change to analyze rather</v>

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than evaluate.

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<v ->Okay, so it'll say, compare global trade patterns</v>

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over time and analyze the implications of globalization

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including outsourcing and free trade zones.

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Any objection to that change?

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Any objection to that change?

03:08:52.710 --> 03:08:53.807
Hearing none.

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That one is adopted.

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<v ->Okay, so number 13, is a bit different than the verbs</v>

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that I've been asking for.

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And it is a grammatical change because the way I read

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"compare maps of voting patterns and/or political boundaries

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"to make inferences about the distribution

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"of political power"

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implies that because Alaska is larger than Rhode Island,

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Alaska has more power than Rhode Island,

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which is not factually accurate.

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So, if we ask to analyze the impact on political boundaries

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on the distribution of political power.

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Does that, that to me makes it a more clearer,

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student expectation.

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(audio cutting out)

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<v ->So, this would completely alter the meaning of this</v>

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particular student expectation.

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Keeping in mind that this is a World Geography course.

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The current student expectation

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requires students to compare maps of voting patterns.

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So, you'd be eliminating that particular skill

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and I think what the current standard is asking the student

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to do is to look at a map to draw their own conclusions.

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Whereas the new student expectation, is essentially telling

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them the conclusion and asking them to analyze it.

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<v ->So, well let's go ahead an vote on that,</v>

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'cause that is a substantive change there.

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All those in favor of striking 13 B and changing it to

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analyze the impact of political boundaries

03:10:38.001 --> 03:10:39.447
on the distribuion of political--

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<v ->Well, I just have a question for Shelly.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Okay, Shelly, so what I'm understanding in comparing maps</v>

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of voting patterns and political boundaries and inferences

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about the distribution of political part.

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Britain is rather small, but they're powerful at a point

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in history, correct?

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But we're implying that the larger of the map,

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the more the power.

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Which is not accurate.

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<v ->Not necessarily, though.</v>

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Because Mongolia, for example, is enormous, not terribly

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political, and so that's what the point of this student

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expectation is, is asking the student to make

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those inferences on his own behalf.

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So, they'll, they want to compare both kinds of maps

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and draw those conclusions.

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(audio cutting out)

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<v ->Okay, withdrawn, so 19.</v>

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Is there any objection to the withdraw?

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Okay, alright, 19.

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And that's on page 30 or am I?

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(mumbling)

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<v ->Science?</v>

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<v ->Is it on page 30.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>19 C.</v>

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<v ->On the bottom of page 30, it would again just be</v>

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to analyze.

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Yes, it's just a verb change again.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, any objection from</v>

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examine to analyze?

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Hearing no objections.

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<v Ms. Perez>Thank you.</v>

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<v ->Alright.</v>

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Okay, so now, the next course.

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Any other changes to consider?

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Now, on U.S. Government.

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<v ->Is there already,</v>

03:12:37.086 --> 03:12:39.439
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, there's no other amendments.</v>

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<v ->So, Government, there are again just four verb changes.</v>

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<v ->So, 1E, would go from examine to analyze.</v>

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<v ->Examine to analyze.</v>

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All of them are examine to analyze.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, if it's okay, I'd like</v>

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to consider all four of these as one if that's-

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<v ->Okay, so prevalent--</v>

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<v ->'Cause all we're changing is examine to analyze</v>

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in all four instances.

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I'll give you just a second to read.

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<v ->Madam Chair, if staff has no objection, then I will</v>

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have no objection.

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Just for the record.

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Staff says they're good, I'm good.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>If there's no objection, we'll change,</v>

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1E to from examine, 1E, 5A, 12D, and 15A,

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will now, instead of say examine, it'll all say analyze.

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If there's, hearing any objection.

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Any objections?

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Motion is adopted.

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<v ->It doesn't.</v>

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<v ->Oh, are we in, doing the wrong number?</v>

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<v ->No.</v>

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<v ->5A, has examine how economic, you got it?</v>

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Did I name the right ones?

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12 D--

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<v ->Yeah, we've got multiple numbers.</v>

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<v ->Okay, I just wanna make sure I'm naming the right numbers.</v>

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Yeah, right, right, right.

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12 D.

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Yes, and 15 A.

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I wanna make sure I read the right, yes, okay great.

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Alright, so that takes care of Government.

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<v ->All of them go (mumbling)</v>

03:14:23.169 --> 03:14:25.613
<v Woman>Go ahead and mark them right.</v>

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<v ->Now we have.</v>

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Oh, I had said no objection.

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Is there any objection to that?

03:14:31.217 --> 03:14:32.584
<v ->Right, you haven't said that yet.</v>

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I thought I did.

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<v ->You did, I missed.</v>

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<v ->Not a problem.</v>

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Is there any objection to changing those?

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Hearing none.

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Okay, great.

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Motion is adopted.

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Then Economics.

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I think there are three, correct?

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Is that all of them?

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Ms. Perez?

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<v ->For Economics.</v>

03:14:57.550 --> 03:14:59.720
Where is Economics in this document.

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<v Woman>It's the very beginning.</v>

03:15:01.123 --> 03:15:03.021
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, very beginning?</v>

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Oh wow.

03:15:04.869 --> 03:15:06.352
I didn't know that.

03:15:06.352 --> 03:15:07.720
Oh, I see it here, yeah.

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<v ->Okay, and so, all examine to analyze.</v>

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<v Woman>Starting on page four is the first one.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Any concerns about these staff?</v>

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I wanna make sure.

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<v ->So, I thinnk 11 C, is fine, the analyze.</v>

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I think the concerns we would raise on 16 D and 18 A,

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is that, as they're currently written, a student

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is examining ways to avoid and eliminate credit card debt.

03:15:35.887 --> 03:15:39.314
So, they're gonna go out and they're gonna investigate.

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This one would take it to a higher cognitive level,

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so now they're actually,

03:15:44.633 --> 03:15:47.317
not only do they have to know what they are,

03:15:47.317 --> 03:15:49.137
then they have to analyze, so they have

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to dig deeper into them, and I'm not sure that's

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the intent of the current SE.

03:15:53.914 --> 03:15:58.164
<v ->Would you accept describe as better than analyze.</v>

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(members discussing)

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<v Shelly>Correct.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, okay so, let's go ahead and take these in order</v>

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since there seems to be a discussion on this.

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So, Economics, 11 C, would say, examine, sorry, analyze,

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instead of, examine.

03:16:16.676 --> 03:16:19.565
So, it would say "analyze the positive and negative aspects

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"of barter, currency, and debit cards."

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Any objection to that change?

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Hearing none.

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Now 16 D, would say, "analyze the types of accounts available

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"to consumers from financial institutions and the risks,

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"monetary costs and benefits of maintaining these accounts."

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And 16 D, you would have a concern?

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<v ->Well they're saying that analyze is higher than examine,</v>

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so I asked for describe, because describe is lower,

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because Shelly is bringing to our attention that,

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lower is good.

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<v ->Actually examine and analyze are both level four.</v>

03:16:58.183 --> 03:17:00.386
On the same cognitive.

03:17:00.386 --> 03:17:02.584
On the Bloom's, we've been looking.

03:17:02.584 --> 03:17:05.875
<v ->Correct, but what the student is doing</v>

03:17:05.875 --> 03:17:08.136
is significantly different when you examine

03:17:08.136 --> 03:17:09.837
versus when you analyze.

03:17:09.837 --> 03:17:11.957
(mumbling)

03:17:11.957 --> 03:17:13.874
Oh, sorry, to describe.

03:17:15.801 --> 03:17:20.801
<v ->Right, because you're saying that analyze is higher than</v>

03:17:21.049 --> 03:17:23.205
what the student expectation is calling for.

03:17:23.205 --> 03:17:26.362
Describe being lower, does describe

03:17:26.362 --> 03:17:29.612
hit what you're, the level that you're?

03:17:31.915 --> 03:17:35.348
<v ->Describe is probably going too low.</v>

03:17:35.348 --> 03:17:36.908
You don't want them just to describe it, you do want

03:17:36.908 --> 03:17:40.213
them to investigate, to look more into it,

03:17:40.213 --> 03:17:42.378
which is what examine accomplishes.

03:17:42.378 --> 03:17:44.308
<v ->And it says costs and benefits of maintaining.</v>

03:17:44.308 --> 03:17:48.007
I mean you're trying to examine that.

03:17:48.007 --> 03:17:50.590
Describe wouldn't fulfill that.

03:17:52.137 --> 03:17:54.599
<v ->The point that I'm making here is the same point</v>

03:17:54.599 --> 03:17:57.114
that I've made in every course.

03:17:57.114 --> 03:18:00.485
When we ask student to examine, we don't exactly know

03:18:00.485 --> 03:18:03.597
what that means as it pertains to a test.

03:18:03.597 --> 03:18:05.611
We know what it means in the classroom perhaps,

03:18:05.611 --> 03:18:07.973
the way I would teach it, perhaps,

03:18:07.973 --> 03:18:10.382
is the same the way half of Texas would teach it.

03:18:10.382 --> 03:18:13.096
But what I'm trying to do, whether we're looking

03:18:13.096 --> 03:18:15.154
at this student expectation or any of the others.

03:18:15.154 --> 03:18:17.853
Is to provide continuity across the courses, so that way

03:18:17.853 --> 03:18:20.416
it's taught, uniformly, because it's going to be tested

03:18:20.416 --> 03:18:22.995
in a standardized manner.

03:18:22.995 --> 03:18:27.228
Whether this is an EOC, or not, it's the focus

03:18:27.228 --> 03:18:29.908
is the continuity across the courses.

03:18:29.908 --> 03:18:33.894
And so, when we're looking at examine, do we know what

03:18:33.894 --> 03:18:35.492
that means on a test?

03:18:35.492 --> 03:18:37.766
As opposed when we ask them to describe.

03:18:37.766 --> 03:18:40.522
We know exactly what that means in the classroom

03:18:40.522 --> 03:18:42.094
and on an assessment.

03:18:42.094 --> 03:18:44.160
That's the difference.

03:18:44.160 --> 03:18:48.012
So, if describe is too low, and we don't have a good,

03:18:48.012 --> 03:18:50.519
we don't have clarity on, examine, for teaching and testing,

03:18:50.519 --> 03:18:55.519
than what is a good clarifying verb for both the teaching

03:18:55.699 --> 03:18:57.990
and the testing requirement.

03:18:57.990 --> 03:19:00.196
<v ->So, I don't believe that there is a lack of clarity</v>

03:19:00.196 --> 03:19:02.557
about what the word examine means to teachers.

03:19:02.557 --> 03:19:06.659
And they'll assess student expectations, in other ways,

03:19:06.659 --> 03:19:08.149
than a paper and pencil test.

03:19:08.149 --> 03:19:11.329
They could give a formative assessment, this would be

03:19:11.329 --> 03:19:14.167
especially given that it's personal financial literacy,

03:19:14.167 --> 03:19:16.110
this would be an excellent opportunity say for a classroom

03:19:16.110 --> 03:19:17.846
project or assignment.

03:19:17.846 --> 03:19:20.306
Where I could observe the student, investigating,

03:19:20.306 --> 03:19:22.223
researching, et cetera.

03:19:26.452 --> 03:19:29.049
<v ->Okay, any further discussion?</v>

03:19:29.049 --> 03:19:30.005
We ready to vote?

03:19:30.005 --> 03:19:34.845
Okay, so the motion is to substitute analyze for examine

03:19:34.845 --> 03:19:37.005
in is it still 16 D?

03:19:37.005 --> 03:19:39.544
<v ->Yes sir, it is 16 D.</v>

03:19:39.544 --> 03:19:41.051
Okay.

03:19:41.051 --> 03:19:42.968
All in favor, say, aye.

03:19:43.841 --> 03:19:45.617
All opposed, no.

03:19:45.617 --> 03:19:46.895
<v Members>No.</v>

03:19:46.895 --> 03:19:48.572
Okay, motion fails.

03:19:48.572 --> 03:19:50.489
Okay, next one is 18 A.

03:19:53.598 --> 03:19:55.181
Ms. Perez, correct?

03:19:56.219 --> 03:19:59.873
<v ->I'm going to ask that to be again,</v>

03:19:59.873 --> 03:20:01.589
that analyze change to describe,

03:20:01.589 --> 03:20:04.619
because describe means you have to look at them

03:20:04.619 --> 03:20:07.119
and know them, versus examine.

03:20:09.304 --> 03:20:11.437
Examine for me as far as teaching and testing

03:20:11.437 --> 03:20:13.270
is concerned is still too ambiguous.

03:20:13.270 --> 03:20:16.177
I'm gonna ask that analyze be changed to describe please.

03:20:16.177 --> 03:20:17.730
<v ->Okay, motion is on.</v>

03:20:17.730 --> 03:20:18.647
<v Man>18?</v>

03:20:19.526 --> 03:20:20.359
<v ->18 A.</v>

03:20:22.371 --> 03:20:23.971
<v ->18 A, substitute describe for examine.</v>

03:20:23.971 --> 03:20:25.107
Ms. Cargill.

03:20:25.107 --> 03:20:29.423
<v ->Shelly, the staff feel the same about this one that we</v>

03:20:29.423 --> 03:20:33.095
did the previous one we just did in D.

03:20:33.095 --> 03:20:34.856
Oh, they do.

03:20:34.856 --> 03:20:35.689
Okay.

03:20:36.666 --> 03:20:38.046
<v ->Any further discussion?</v>

03:20:38.046 --> 03:20:40.007
Ready to vote.

03:20:40.007 --> 03:20:45.007
All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying, aye.

03:20:45.092 --> 03:20:46.331
All opposed, no.

03:20:46.331 --> 03:20:47.596
<v Members>No.</v>

03:20:47.596 --> 03:20:49.102
<v ->Motion fails.</v>

03:20:49.102 --> 03:20:53.852
Are there any further changes to the Social Studies TEKS,

03:20:54.762 --> 03:20:55.679
as amended?

03:20:57.273 --> 03:21:00.214
Okay, we ready to vote on the motion?

03:21:00.214 --> 03:21:04.797
The motion is found on page 12 of your Tuesday minutes.

03:21:09.911 --> 03:21:11.637
<v ->Yes, Ms. Hardy.</v>

03:21:11.637 --> 03:21:14.543
<v ->Mr Rowley, would this be the time where we discuss whether</v>

03:21:14.543 --> 03:21:17.936
or not this is gonna be delayed on the 20?

03:21:17.936 --> 03:21:20.686
<v ->That's perfect time to do that.</v>

03:21:22.234 --> 03:21:26.058
<v ->So, Ms. Crews, do we need a motion to suspend our rules</v>

03:21:26.058 --> 03:21:29.235
in order to discuss that because it wasn't submitted

03:21:29.235 --> 03:21:30.568
by five o'clock?

03:21:31.976 --> 03:21:34.542
<v Mr. Maynard>Parliamentary inquiry.</v>

03:21:34.542 --> 03:21:36.277
<v Ms. Hardy>We discussed it.</v>

03:21:36.277 --> 03:21:38.913
<v Woman> (inaudible) Your effective dates on the Board's pages.</v>

03:21:38.913 --> 03:21:40.315
<v ->We can do that.</v>

03:21:40.315 --> 03:21:41.757
Okay, Mr. Maynard.

03:21:41.757 --> 03:21:43.425
You had a question.

03:21:43.425 --> 03:21:47.925
<v ->It seemed to me that the rule applies to the rule text,</v>

03:21:49.617 --> 03:21:50.653
not necessarily to the motion.

03:21:50.653 --> 03:21:52.905
<v ->Perfect, I think Ms. Crews agrees with you.</v>

03:21:52.905 --> 03:21:54.458
So, we can take that up.

03:21:54.458 --> 03:21:57.271
Okay Ms. Hardy, do you want address the issue of whether

03:21:57.271 --> 03:22:00.925
we change the effective date from August 26, 2019

03:22:00.925 --> 03:22:02.138
to something else?

03:22:02.138 --> 03:22:04.706
<v Shelly>Mr. Rowley, if I could, there is rule text</v>

03:22:04.706 --> 03:22:07.111
that incudes language about the implementation date.

03:22:07.111 --> 03:22:08.312
<v ->Microphone.</v>

03:22:08.312 --> 03:22:12.878
<v ->Oh, there is rule text in your documents at the beginning</v>

03:22:12.878 --> 03:22:15.371
of every subchapter that includes language about the

03:22:15.371 --> 03:22:17.038
implementation date.

03:22:20.090 --> 03:22:22.724
<v ->Well then, alright, so is there a motion to suspend</v>

03:22:22.724 --> 03:22:25.146
the rules to consider a change in the effective date

03:22:25.146 --> 03:22:28.279
of the implementation of Social Studies TEKS.

03:22:28.279 --> 03:22:29.614
Mr. Maynard.

03:22:29.614 --> 03:22:30.566
Is there a second?

03:22:30.566 --> 03:22:31.516
<v ->Second.</v>

03:22:31.516 --> 03:22:32.592
<v ->Any discussion?</v>

03:22:32.592 --> 03:22:33.776
<v ->It takes a what?</v>

03:22:33.776 --> 03:22:34.883
<v ->It takes a two thirds vote.</v>

03:22:34.883 --> 03:22:38.182
Well it's just to consider the changing it.

03:22:38.182 --> 03:22:39.099
<v ->For what?</v>

03:22:40.795 --> 03:22:44.302
<v ->Oh, well, right now, it's August 26, 2019,</v>

03:22:44.302 --> 03:22:46.540
but this is just a motion to suspend the rules

03:22:46.540 --> 03:22:47.957
to even consider.

03:22:49.457 --> 03:22:53.732
<v ->Can you tell me why, I guess, before I vote on it, my question of</v>

03:22:53.732 --> 03:22:56.659
Mr. Rowley, is that the earliest effective date

03:22:56.659 --> 03:22:57.615
that we can have?

03:22:57.615 --> 03:22:59.898
And by opening, we're considering a different date

03:22:59.898 --> 03:23:01.871
that may be extended out?

03:23:01.871 --> 03:23:03.379
Then I would rise against a motion.

03:23:03.379 --> 03:23:04.691
<v ->Okay, alright.</v>

03:23:04.691 --> 03:23:06.538
So, it's gonna take, any further discussion about

03:23:06.538 --> 03:23:10.089
suspending the rules to take up the discussion?

03:23:10.089 --> 03:23:11.697
Okay, it takes a two thirds vote, doesn't it?

03:23:11.697 --> 03:23:16.291
Okay, all those in favor of suspending the rules

03:23:16.291 --> 03:23:18.832
to take up the discussion, the item, about changing

03:23:18.832 --> 03:23:22.915
the effective date, signify by raising your hand.

03:23:24.780 --> 03:23:28.613
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 8

03:23:29.481 --> 03:23:31.064
out of, the others.

03:23:36.079 --> 03:23:37.575
Oh, all opposed, raise your hand.

03:23:37.575 --> 03:23:38.408
Same sign.

03:23:41.485 --> 03:23:42.960
Okay, you have three opposed.

03:23:42.960 --> 03:23:44.159
Is that what I saw?

03:23:44.159 --> 03:23:46.992
So, 8 in favor, three opposed.

03:23:48.146 --> 03:23:50.579
<v ->You have suspended the rule.</v>

03:23:50.579 --> 03:23:51.806
<v ->Okay, it passed.</v>

03:23:51.806 --> 03:23:53.952
<v ->Twice as many in favor, as are opposed,</v>

03:23:53.952 --> 03:23:55.218
that's how we do it.

03:23:55.218 --> 03:23:57.645
<v ->Okay, so now we're taking up the issue of changing</v>

03:23:57.645 --> 03:24:00.450
the effective date of the implementation

03:24:00.450 --> 03:24:03.933
of the Social Studies TEKS, as amended.

03:24:03.933 --> 03:24:05.492
Mr. Maynard or Ms. Hardy.

03:24:05.492 --> 03:24:07.509
<v Mr. Maynard>Go ahead, I'll defer.</v>

03:24:07.509 --> 03:24:12.426
<v ->In speaking in regard to the Social Studies coordinators,</v>

03:24:13.879 --> 03:24:16.296
who have the large districts,

03:24:17.554 --> 03:24:20.290
who, when they get ready to do these standards,

03:24:20.290 --> 03:24:23.180
these changes, they must make it

03:24:23.180 --> 03:24:26.535
for their whole school district,

03:24:26.535 --> 03:24:30.551
to be able to have at the very beginning of the year,

03:24:30.551 --> 03:24:33.451
what they want they want their teachers to be teaching.

03:24:33.451 --> 03:24:36.528
And it's particularly difficult in large school districts

03:24:36.528 --> 03:24:39.705
because they will have many, many, new teachers,

03:24:39.705 --> 03:24:43.523
many people coming in, and since this would affect

03:24:43.523 --> 03:24:46.273
what is tested on the STAAR test.

03:24:48.103 --> 03:24:52.541
As well as making sure that they clarify this for all

03:24:52.541 --> 03:24:55.343
their teachers, what's been changed and that you

03:24:55.343 --> 03:24:57.616
wouldn't do a lesson that you previously did,

03:24:57.616 --> 03:24:58.890
now that you have more time,

03:24:58.890 --> 03:25:00.057
and so forth.

03:25:00.057 --> 03:25:04.935
Getting all that done, prior to the start of school,

03:25:04.935 --> 03:25:09.518
in this next school year, would be to their advantage not

03:25:10.488 --> 03:25:11.321
to have it.

03:25:11.321 --> 03:25:15.088
Also, you have a number of people who are responsible for

03:25:15.088 --> 03:25:17.954
both English, Language Arts and Social Studies.

03:25:17.954 --> 03:25:22.590
And the English/Language Arts goes into effect in 2019,

03:25:22.590 --> 03:25:25.854
so many of those people will be working on both of those.

03:25:25.854 --> 03:25:29.349
You also have, and this isn't as great, but you have

03:25:29.349 --> 03:25:32.089
your elementary teachers, they're starting to do their

03:25:32.089 --> 03:25:34.768
new English/Language Arts, and they would also have to

03:25:34.768 --> 03:25:37.631
address their Social Studies.

03:25:37.631 --> 03:25:39.949
And I don't think that's a big of deal as getting it

03:25:39.949 --> 03:25:44.396
technically corrected and out to all their teachers

03:25:44.396 --> 03:25:47.060
so they would know what the lessons have changed

03:25:47.060 --> 03:25:48.977
and what they're doing.

03:25:50.425 --> 03:25:52.017
<v ->Mr. Maynard and then Ms. Bahorich.</v>

03:25:52.017 --> 03:25:54.002
<v Ms. Bahorich>Let me, 'cause this might change.</v>

03:25:54.002 --> 03:25:56.125
<v ->Do you mind yielding to Ms. Bahorich?</v>

03:25:56.125 --> 03:25:59.208
(members discussing)

03:26:00.713 --> 03:26:01.630
Good point.

03:26:05.843 --> 03:26:10.843
We really don't have a motion on the floor at this point,

03:26:10.878 --> 03:26:14.211
Ms. Hardy, do you wanna make that motion?

03:26:17.640 --> 03:26:19.769
Don't we have to have a motion on the floor to even have

03:26:19.769 --> 03:26:21.769
the discussion, Ms. Crews?

03:26:22.638 --> 03:26:27.388
<v ->Mr. Rowley, someone had already moved the motion as was</v>

03:26:28.630 --> 03:26:31.642
in your minutes and then you have suspended the rules

03:26:31.642 --> 03:26:36.634
to allow an amendment to that motion, but in my hearing,

03:26:36.634 --> 03:26:40.475
I don't recall that an amendment has yet been offered.

03:26:40.475 --> 03:26:41.868
<v ->You're right, it hadn't been offered.</v>

03:26:41.868 --> 03:26:42.701
Can we?

03:26:44.452 --> 03:26:46.416
<v Mr. Maynard>Mr. Chair.</v>

03:26:46.416 --> 03:26:47.389
<v ->Mr. Maynard.</v>

03:26:47.389 --> 03:26:52.056
<v ->I move that we amend the motion by amending the change</v>

03:26:53.751 --> 03:26:56.834
in the effective date from 2019 to 2020,

03:26:56.834 --> 03:27:00.567
by striking out 2019 and inserting 2020.

03:27:00.567 --> 03:27:01.926
<v ->Okay, is there a second?</v>

03:27:01.926 --> 03:27:03.078
<v Woman>Second.</v>

03:27:03.078 --> 03:27:05.140
<v Man>Can I speak to the motion please?</v>

03:27:05.140 --> 03:27:06.973
<v ->Just for one second.</v>

03:27:07.846 --> 03:27:09.373
I'm just gonna throw this out,

03:27:09.373 --> 03:27:11.956
because I've gotten some notes.

03:27:13.693 --> 03:27:16.418
They want immediate relief on the state assessment

03:27:16.418 --> 03:27:20.947
piece of this, which would be 8 and 11th as we know.

03:27:20.947 --> 03:27:23.111
And so, the possibility, and then,

03:27:23.111 --> 03:27:24.092
I just wanna throw it out.

03:27:24.092 --> 03:27:25.367
The staff said that we could do.

03:27:25.367 --> 03:27:28.056
'Cause I said, well, could we do that?

03:27:28.056 --> 03:27:28.937
Could we just do those?

03:27:28.937 --> 03:27:32.250
We could make effective now, for High School and Middle

03:27:32.250 --> 03:27:36.836
'cause that would catch those two tested grades, 2019.

03:27:36.836 --> 03:27:39.174
Leave elementary into 2020.

03:27:39.174 --> 03:27:42.265
That way it would conflict with the ELAR.

03:27:42.265 --> 03:27:45.588
All these changes with ELAR and that could be a compromise

03:27:45.588 --> 03:27:46.921
between waiting.

03:27:48.195 --> 03:27:51.011
Because I've gotten a variety of feedback I wanna say,

03:27:51.011 --> 03:27:54.420
but most of its been concerned, give us relief now

03:27:54.420 --> 03:27:55.746
on the state assessments.

03:27:55.746 --> 03:27:58.169
And the others are like, I'm drowning

03:27:58.169 --> 03:28:00.783
'cause I've got ELAR for elementary on top of it.

03:28:00.783 --> 03:28:02.748
So, maybe that's the way we go in between.

03:28:02.748 --> 03:28:05.429
I'm just gonna throw this out after talking to staff.

03:28:05.429 --> 03:28:06.262
<v ->Okay, Mr. Maynard.</v>

03:28:06.262 --> 03:28:09.429
<v ->Yeah, I was rather, rather agnostic</v>

03:28:11.015 --> 03:28:13.335
on this particular issue.

03:28:13.335 --> 03:28:18.199
So, what I did, I sent a text to a couple of our region

03:28:18.199 --> 03:28:21.666
executive directors and they've kind of polled.

03:28:21.666 --> 03:28:25.132
Just did an informal poll out there, and sort,

03:28:25.132 --> 03:28:27.779
what, the response that we're getting is, is that well

03:28:27.779 --> 03:28:30.976
small school districts seem to be able to shift on the fly.

03:28:30.976 --> 03:28:32.990
And they don't seem to be having a problem.

03:28:32.990 --> 03:28:35.228
We're really getting some concern

03:28:35.228 --> 03:28:38.094
on midsize and large districts.

03:28:38.094 --> 03:28:40.931
And of course they're very concerned in their curriculum

03:28:40.931 --> 03:28:43.559
department with having to implement English, Language Arts,

03:28:43.559 --> 03:28:44.771
Reading, and Spanish.

03:28:44.771 --> 03:28:49.771
And then go back and inservice and try to unpack the changes

03:28:51.385 --> 03:28:56.329
that we've made and I think that one of the large districts

03:28:56.329 --> 03:28:59.496
in Region 12, said 2019 is almost now.

03:29:00.594 --> 03:29:04.844
And for that reason, I understand all those things,

03:29:06.200 --> 03:29:08.684
but just based on the feedback that I'm receiving

03:29:08.684 --> 03:29:13.002
from the field, I would vote in the favor of the motion

03:29:13.002 --> 03:29:14.585
that I've proposed.

03:29:15.432 --> 03:29:17.656
<v ->Okay, any further discussion?</v>

03:29:17.656 --> 03:29:18.906
Yes, Ms. Perez.

03:29:20.427 --> 03:29:25.350
<v ->As the driving force behind the streamlining was to have</v>

03:29:25.350 --> 03:29:28.621
a relief on the end of course exams,

03:29:28.621 --> 03:29:31.016
as particularly for 8 and 11th.

03:29:31.016 --> 03:29:34.769
The suggestion that, Ms. Bahorich, brings up to implement

03:29:34.769 --> 03:29:39.602
8 and 11 now, and then implement the others with time.

03:29:40.946 --> 03:29:44.672
That's what I will be voting in favor of.

03:29:44.672 --> 03:29:47.472
<v ->Okay, well do you want to make that in a form of an</v>

03:29:47.472 --> 03:29:51.432
amendment, because that amendment has not been proposed yet.

03:29:51.432 --> 03:29:55.182
(various members discussing)

03:29:56.637 --> 03:29:57.470
No.

03:29:59.555 --> 03:30:02.168
We need yours as an underlying motion and then amended

03:30:02.168 --> 03:30:04.085
with specific subjects.

03:30:07.893 --> 03:30:11.143
<v ->So Tom's motion is of the amendment--</v>

03:30:12.967 --> 03:30:14.214
<v Mr. Rowley>I don't think your mics on.</v>

03:30:14.214 --> 03:30:15.047
<v ->Thank you.</v>

03:30:15.047 --> 03:30:17.729
The amendment would be implementing

03:30:17.729 --> 03:30:20.479
Grades 8 and 11 now, immediately.

03:30:22.963 --> 03:30:24.550
<v Woman>I don't think you can--</v>

03:30:24.550 --> 03:30:26.823
<v ->You can't break them down.</v>

03:30:26.823 --> 03:30:31.261
<v ->An implementation applies to the subchapter.</v>

03:30:31.261 --> 03:30:34.567
So, Subchapter A is Kindergarten to 5th grade.

03:30:34.567 --> 03:30:37.183
So you can do one thing with that block.

03:30:37.183 --> 03:30:40.442
Subchapter B, is sixth, seventh, and 8th grade.

03:30:40.442 --> 03:30:42.047
That could be treated differently.

03:30:42.047 --> 03:30:45.969
And then Subchapter C, would be the High School courses.

03:30:45.969 --> 03:30:46.915
<v ->So, B and C.</v>

03:30:46.915 --> 03:30:49.224
<v ->And the implementation language in each one applies</v>

03:30:49.224 --> 03:30:51.044
to the subchapter.

03:30:51.044 --> 03:30:53.783
<v Mr Rowley>What is D?</v>

03:30:53.783 --> 03:30:57.167
<v ->D is other Social Studies courses, so that is where</v>

03:30:57.167 --> 03:30:59.311
your AP and IB courses live.

03:30:59.311 --> 03:31:03.306
And those were not actually amended, I don't think.

03:31:03.306 --> 03:31:05.868
<v ->Okay, so if Ms. Bahorich's suggestion</v>

03:31:05.868 --> 03:31:08.442
becomes an amendment, it would be

03:31:08.442 --> 03:31:12.192
that we delay implementation of Subchapter A,

03:31:13.686 --> 03:31:15.519
and would be in C now.

03:31:17.399 --> 03:31:19.383
(members discussing)

03:31:19.383 --> 03:31:23.788
<v ->I'm sorry, so the change to Subchapter D was to add</v>

03:31:23.788 --> 03:31:26.429
the Economics that needed to be added in there,

03:31:26.429 --> 03:31:30.262
so D, it was a less substantive, but there is.

03:31:32.739 --> 03:31:34.300
<v ->So A and D?</v>

03:31:34.300 --> 03:31:35.587
<v ->Right.</v>

03:31:35.587 --> 03:31:39.420
<v ->So, Ms. Perez, is your motion that we amend</v>

03:31:42.031 --> 03:31:46.114
Mr. Maynard's motion so that Subchapter A and D,

03:31:51.559 --> 03:31:53.559
are implemented in 2020.

03:31:57.082 --> 03:31:58.812
<v ->D, should go in high shool.</v>

03:31:58.812 --> 03:32:00.062
A is by itself.

03:32:01.764 --> 03:32:04.764
<v ->So then, A is implemented in 2020.</v>

03:32:07.306 --> 03:32:12.306
No, 2020, delay elementary, and go forward with B, C, and D.

03:32:17.120 --> 03:32:18.608
Is there a second to that?

03:32:18.608 --> 03:32:20.245
<v ->I'll second.</v>

03:32:20.245 --> 03:32:22.214
<v ->Ms. Crews are you good with it?</v>

03:32:22.214 --> 03:32:23.803
<v ->I'm with you.</v>

03:32:23.803 --> 03:32:28.803
Yes, sir, your motion, we've got a secondary motion to add the

03:32:28.817 --> 03:32:33.817
brief language to the pending amendment which is 2020.

03:32:34.087 --> 03:32:37.661
<v ->Okay, alright, so you see it up on the screen now,</v>

03:32:37.661 --> 03:32:40.856
what we're discussing and about to vote on

03:32:40.856 --> 03:32:44.748
is for Subchapter , we have an effecdtive--

03:32:44.748 --> 03:32:47.498
<v Woman>I'm sorry Mr. Chairman.</v>

03:32:48.333 --> 03:32:51.478
So, I believe that for the 2020,

03:32:51.478 --> 03:32:54.145
it would need to be August 24th.

03:32:55.439 --> 03:32:58.446
And so just so you know, in August dates, it's that fourth

03:32:58.446 --> 03:33:01.108
Monday in August is what that comes from.

03:33:01.108 --> 03:33:03.786
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, so then it's August 24th instead</v>

03:33:03.786 --> 03:33:06.286
of the 26th, in 2020, correct?

03:33:07.300 --> 03:33:08.289
<v Woman>Yes.</v>

03:33:08.289 --> 03:33:11.393
<v Mr. Rowley>But in any event, the gist of the motion is</v>

03:33:11.393 --> 03:33:16.060
that we delay implementation of Subchapter A until 2020.

03:33:19.290 --> 03:33:23.540
And then otherwise, implement, B, C, and D in 2019.

03:33:27.070 --> 03:33:27.903
Dr. Ellis.

03:33:28.760 --> 03:33:31.681
<v ->Could we have this issue come up with districts</v>

03:33:31.681 --> 03:33:34.692
of innovation, that are starting and did we go back

03:33:34.692 --> 03:33:36.268
to like an August 1st.

03:33:36.268 --> 03:33:38.090
Do you recall that discussion?

03:33:38.090 --> 03:33:39.444
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

03:33:39.444 --> 03:33:42.527
That is a good point, so that came up

03:33:43.533 --> 03:33:45.480
with the implementation of the new Mexican American

03:33:45.480 --> 03:33:47.063
studies and we did.

03:33:49.248 --> 03:33:51.934
You did vote on an earlier effective date,

03:33:51.934 --> 03:33:53.826
so that if school started earlier, that,

03:33:53.826 --> 03:33:55.743
that would be the case.

03:33:57.635 --> 03:34:00.556
I think you can do that here,

03:34:00.556 --> 03:34:05.056
I think you can choose a specific implementation date,

03:34:06.407 --> 03:34:09.564
so the way that this works and what makes it a little

03:34:09.564 --> 03:34:12.571
bit tricky is that we need the current essential knowledge

03:34:12.571 --> 03:34:16.634
and skills in place essentially through any summer school

03:34:16.634 --> 03:34:21.424
that would happen and then, be a nice transition

03:34:21.424 --> 03:34:23.158
with that fourth Monday now that we've

03:34:23.158 --> 03:34:26.978
got different districts starting on different dates.

03:34:26.978 --> 03:34:29.603
That makes it a little bit more tricky.

03:34:29.603 --> 03:34:34.353
<v ->Could you say with beginning the 2019-2020 school year?</v>

03:34:35.326 --> 03:34:36.824
Does that work in this?

03:34:36.824 --> 03:34:40.453
(sighing heavily)

03:34:40.453 --> 03:34:43.203
<v ->So, I think the challenge here</v>

03:34:48.547 --> 03:34:51.464
is effective versus implementation.

03:34:55.271 --> 03:34:56.606
<v Dr. Ellis>So, would it be safe just to take</v>

03:34:56.606 --> 03:34:58.153
like August the 15th?

03:34:58.153 --> 03:34:59.292
<v ->So, yeah.</v>

03:34:59.292 --> 03:35:01.690
So the, 'cause what we do is when we file

03:35:01.690 --> 03:35:04.037
with the Texas Register, this is when the rule actually

03:35:04.037 --> 03:35:08.903
goes into effect and so, you probably would be safer

03:35:08.903 --> 03:35:11.546
with an, instead of the fourth Monday,

03:35:11.546 --> 03:35:13.829
picking an earlier date,

03:35:13.829 --> 03:35:15.060
so that the rule would change.

03:35:15.060 --> 03:35:19.060
And then the language that in, so like, 113.10,

03:35:20.238 --> 03:35:21.848
of the subchapter,

03:35:21.848 --> 03:35:23.991
shall be implemented by districts

03:35:23.991 --> 03:35:27.660
beginning with the, and it just lists the school year.

03:35:27.660 --> 03:35:32.160
So, if you want this rule to be effective, August 1st,

03:35:33.852 --> 03:35:35.769
I think, would be okay.

03:35:36.729 --> 03:35:37.734
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay.</v>

03:35:37.734 --> 03:35:42.067
<v ->Any objection to substituting August 1st for August 24th,</v>

03:35:42.067 --> 03:35:44.650
and August 26th in that motion?

03:35:45.967 --> 03:35:47.499
<v ->I don't know if it is necessarily an objection,</v>

03:35:47.499 --> 03:35:50.804
maybe some clarification, in Region 19, we have several

03:35:50.804 --> 03:35:52.220
year round schools.

03:35:52.220 --> 03:35:54.835
And those school years begin in July.

03:35:54.835 --> 03:35:57.918
So, does this have an impact on that?

03:36:03.745 --> 03:36:06.162
<v Man>Point of information.</v>

03:36:08.153 --> 03:36:09.265
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, Mr. Maynard.</v>

03:36:09.265 --> 03:36:11.693
<v ->Yeah, just curious, and I just made just a question</v>

03:36:11.693 --> 03:36:16.404
for staff, is that, generally we have dates that apply

03:36:16.404 --> 03:36:18.186
to certain school years, but we also know

03:36:18.186 --> 03:36:20.370
that we have exceptions.

03:36:20.370 --> 03:36:23.316
That those exceptions, then just apply, retroactively

03:36:23.316 --> 03:36:25.759
to whatever format, whether it be district or innovation

03:36:25.759 --> 03:36:28.481
or whatever it is that you're doing.

03:36:28.481 --> 03:36:30.169
I don't know if we really have to get down

03:36:30.169 --> 03:36:31.836
to a granular level.

03:36:32.721 --> 03:36:34.866
I think people understand that this is the school year

03:36:34.866 --> 03:36:35.984
it applies to.

03:36:35.984 --> 03:36:37.421
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, so is there any objection</v>

03:36:37.421 --> 03:36:39.122
if we substitute August 1st, because then for sure we're

03:36:39.122 --> 03:36:43.289
making it clear as to when that's being effective.

03:36:44.157 --> 03:36:45.548
Any objection?

03:36:45.548 --> 03:36:47.335
Hearing none.

03:36:47.335 --> 03:36:48.455
It's done.

03:36:48.455 --> 03:36:49.773
Okay.

03:36:49.773 --> 03:36:52.876
<v Woman>Just for myself I wanna know how that (mumbling)</v>

03:36:52.876 --> 03:36:54.396
<v ->Good question.</v>

03:36:54.396 --> 03:36:58.610
Okay, so are we ready now to proceed with a vote

03:36:58.610 --> 03:36:59.943
on the amendment

03:37:01.818 --> 03:37:04.485
which will exclude Subchapter A,

03:37:08.995 --> 03:37:13.758
no exclude, Subchapter A okay, with an effective date

03:37:13.758 --> 03:37:15.258
of August 1, 2019?

03:37:18.776 --> 03:37:19.750
Right?

03:37:19.750 --> 03:37:21.183
<v Woman>Right.</v>

03:37:21.183 --> 03:37:24.464
<v ->Yeah, the motion is to exclude this, is to include all</v>

03:37:24.464 --> 03:37:27.489
of 'em and change it to 2020, so the amendment

03:37:27.489 --> 03:37:31.435
is to exclude Subchapter A from that main motion?

03:37:31.435 --> 03:37:32.790
Everybody with me?

03:37:32.790 --> 03:37:36.220
<v ->To leave the effect of this amendment would be</v>

03:37:36.220 --> 03:37:39.330
that Subchapter A would effective in 2020,

03:37:39.330 --> 03:37:43.268
and all others would be effective in 2019.

03:37:43.268 --> 03:37:44.497
<v ->Exactly, there you go.</v>

03:37:44.497 --> 03:37:45.805
Everybody understand what we're voting on?

03:37:45.805 --> 03:37:46.638
<v Woman>Yep.</v>

03:37:46.638 --> 03:37:48.023
<v ->Okay, all in favor of that amendment,</v>

03:37:48.023 --> 03:37:49.495
signify by saying, aye.

03:37:49.495 --> 03:37:50.328
<v Members>Aye.</v>

03:37:50.328 --> 03:37:51.621
<v Mr. Rowley>All opposed, no.</v>

03:37:51.621 --> 03:37:52.757
<v Man>No.</v>

03:37:52.757 --> 03:37:55.037
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, the aye's have it.</v>

03:37:55.037 --> 03:37:59.752
And then, so now we're ready to vote on the amended motion,

03:37:59.752 --> 03:38:01.063
right, Ms. Crews?

03:38:01.063 --> 03:38:02.018
<v Ms. Crews>Yes sir.</v>

03:38:02.018 --> 03:38:05.863
<v Mr, Rowley>That is, the effective, we're amending</v>

03:38:05.863 --> 03:38:08.922
the main motion to change the effective date

03:38:08.922 --> 03:38:13.892
to August 1, 2020 for Subchapter A, and an effective date

03:38:13.892 --> 03:38:18.396
of August 1, 2019, for Subchapter B, C, and D.

03:38:18.396 --> 03:38:19.737
Are you with us?

03:38:19.737 --> 03:38:22.190
Any further discussion?

03:38:22.190 --> 03:38:23.170
Ready to vote.

03:38:23.170 --> 03:38:25.309
All those in favor, signify by say a, aye.

03:38:25.309 --> 03:38:26.929
<v Members>Aye.</v>

03:38:26.929 --> 03:38:28.429
<v ->All opposed, no.</v>

03:38:31.418 --> 03:38:32.251
Motion carry.

03:38:32.251 --> 03:38:33.084
<v Ms. Crews>Okay.</v>

03:38:33.084 --> 03:38:35.377
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v Ms. Crews>Wonderful.</v>

03:38:35.377 --> 03:38:38.396
<v ->Now, I'm turning the chair back over to Madam Chair.</v>

03:38:38.396 --> 03:38:41.544
<v ->Madam Chair, there is as I mentioned,</v>

03:38:41.544 --> 03:38:44.268
the language in rule text and  if you would just allow

03:38:44.268 --> 03:38:47.450
us to make those technical edits, to comply

03:38:47.450 --> 03:38:48.806
with the teacher.

03:38:48.806 --> 03:38:49.700
Thank you.

03:38:49.700 --> 03:38:51.104
<v ->Oh, so ordered, that's perfect.</v>

03:38:51.104 --> 03:38:54.129
<v ->Okay, so we're back to the main motion,</v>

03:38:54.129 --> 03:38:57.204
which is to recommend the State Board of Education approve

03:38:57.204 --> 03:38:59.580
for first reading and final adoption,

03:38:59.580 --> 03:39:02.614
proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 113,

03:39:02.614 --> 03:39:06.261
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

03:39:06.261 --> 03:39:10.006
Subchapter A, elementary, Subchapter B,

03:39:10.006 --> 03:39:12.573
middle school, Subchapter C, high school, and Subchapter D,

03:39:12.573 --> 03:39:15.724
Other Social Studies Courses, and propose repeal of

03:39:15.724 --> 03:39:19.169
19 TAC Chapter 118, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

03:39:19.169 --> 03:39:22.023
for Economics with emphasis on the free enterprise system

03:39:22.023 --> 03:39:25.707
and it's benefits, Subchapter A, high school, and

03:39:25.707 --> 03:39:28.471
Subchapter B, Other Economics Courses as amended

03:39:28.471 --> 03:39:33.304
with an effective date of August 1, 2020 for Subchapter A,

03:39:37.322 --> 03:39:40.598
and an effective date of August 1, 2019

03:39:40.598 --> 03:39:42.931
for Subchapters B, C, and D.

03:39:44.067 --> 03:39:45.132
All those in favor?

03:39:45.132 --> 03:39:46.454
We don't need to, this is voice only, right?

03:39:46.454 --> 03:39:47.812
<v Woman>Yes.</v>

03:39:47.812 --> 03:39:49.108
<v Ms. Bahorich>All those in favor say, aye.</v>

03:39:49.108 --> 03:39:49.961
<v Members>Aye.</v>

03:39:49.961 --> 03:39:51.954
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

03:39:51.954 --> 03:39:54.287
That Social Studies is done.

03:39:55.655 --> 03:39:56.943
We got it done.

03:39:56.943 --> 03:39:57.984
<v Man>Back to the minutes now?</v>

03:39:57.984 --> 03:39:59.337
<v Ms. Bahorich>Back to the minutes.</v>

03:39:59.337 --> 03:40:00.597
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay--</v>

03:40:00.597 --> 03:40:01.953
<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

03:40:01.953 --> 03:40:03.337
<v Ms. Bahorich>I'm sorry.</v>

03:40:03.337 --> 03:40:06.192
<v Woman>(mumbling) or do we need to finish this first?</v>

03:40:06.192 --> 03:40:09.747
<v Mr. Rowley>Ms. Tincy, Ms. Miller needs to leave.</v>

03:40:09.747 --> 03:40:12.166
<v Ms. Bahorich>She does need to leave.</v>

03:40:12.166 --> 03:40:14.400
<v Mr. Rowley>And she wanted to be here when we put</v>

03:40:14.400 --> 03:40:15.274
it on there.

03:40:15.274 --> 03:40:16.579
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay.</v>

03:40:16.579 --> 03:40:20.519
If there's no objection members, Ms. Miller does, so we

03:40:20.519 --> 03:40:23.918
were going to, go ahead and vote on the Dyslexia Handbook,

03:40:23.918 --> 03:40:26.266
so she can take that vote if there's

03:40:26.266 --> 03:40:27.713
not any objection to that.

03:40:27.713 --> 03:40:29.196
That will be on the Committee of Instruction,

03:40:29.196 --> 03:40:32.784
and it's number nine in your Board Agenda Book,

03:40:32.784 --> 03:40:35.284
but it's also in your minutes.

03:40:37.867 --> 03:40:41.478
Ms. Miller, not, tell us where to look here.

03:40:41.478 --> 03:40:44.908
<v ->Yes, ma'am, it's on page two in the minutes</v>

03:40:44.908 --> 03:40:47.385
on the Committee on Instruction.

03:40:47.385 --> 03:40:50.218
(papers rustling)

03:40:52.299 --> 03:40:55.366
<v ->Are we just doing the two on dyslexia for right now.</v>

03:40:55.366 --> 03:40:56.530
<v ->Yeah, just for right now.</v>

03:40:56.530 --> 03:40:58.582
We gotta go back.

03:40:58.582 --> 03:40:59.415
<v ->Alright.</v>

03:41:01.570 --> 03:41:04.500
<v ->On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I move that</v>

03:41:04.500 --> 03:41:09.500
the State Board of Education, excuse me, approve, proposed

03:41:09.666 --> 03:41:12.908
updates, to Dyslexia Handbook, procedures concerning

03:41:12.908 --> 03:41:15.241
dyslexia and related orders.

03:41:18.247 --> 03:41:20.707
<v ->All those in favor say, aye.</v>

03:41:20.707 --> 03:41:21.570
<v Members>Aye.</v>

03:41:21.570 --> 03:41:22.874
<v ->All those opposed, say nay.</v>

03:41:22.874 --> 03:41:23.750
<v ->Aye's have it.</v>

03:41:23.750 --> 03:41:24.630
Ms. Miller.

03:41:24.630 --> 03:41:27.525
<v Ms. Miller>We also have another one in there.</v>

03:41:27.525 --> 03:41:28.875
<v ->Oh yeah, that's right, there are two.</v>

03:41:28.875 --> 03:41:29.708
I forgot.

03:41:29.708 --> 03:41:30.631
Yes, you're right.

03:41:30.631 --> 03:41:33.850
<v ->It's still on page two, it's number three.</v>

03:41:33.850 --> 03:41:36.098
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, I move that

03:41:36.098 --> 03:41:38.482
the State Board of Education approve for first reading

03:41:38.482 --> 03:41:41.709
and following authorization, the proposed amendment

03:41:41.709 --> 03:41:46.495
to 19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements,

03:41:46.495 --> 03:41:50.828
Subchapter C, other provisions, 74.28, Students with

03:41:52.608 --> 03:41:55.191
Dyslexia and Related Disorders.

03:41:56.292 --> 03:41:58.007
<v ->All those in favor say, aye.</v>

03:41:58.007 --> 03:41:58.922
<v Members>Aye.</v>

03:41:58.922 --> 03:42:00.101
<v ->All those opposed, say nay.</v>

03:42:00.101 --> 03:42:01.244
<v ->Nay.</v>

03:42:01.244 --> 03:42:02.561
<v ->Nay (laughing)</v>

03:42:02.561 --> 03:42:03.436
What?

03:42:03.436 --> 03:42:04.311
<v Ms. Miller>I was gonna say, hey! (laughing)</v>

03:42:04.311 --> 03:42:05.978
May I say something?

03:42:07.907 --> 03:42:09.960
<v ->Overwhelmingly, it passed.</v>

03:42:09.960 --> 03:42:11.380
(laughing)

03:42:11.380 --> 03:42:12.921
Overwhelmingly, yes.

03:42:12.921 --> 03:42:16.212
And Ms. Miller, before you go, I want to draw,

03:42:16.212 --> 03:42:18.210
we had a very important contest, and I realize

03:42:18.210 --> 03:42:21.648
we're kind of skipping around the thing,

03:42:21.648 --> 03:42:23.645
but I'm just worried, Ms. Miller won't get to vote

03:42:23.645 --> 03:42:26.950
on the, so I kind of think we need to put stickers

03:42:26.950 --> 03:42:30.872
on where our student artwork that submitted for our contest.

03:42:30.872 --> 03:42:33.326
Just real quick, can we do that real quick again.

03:42:33.326 --> 03:42:37.376
So, that would be, Mr. Maynard, can you take that up

03:42:37.376 --> 03:42:39.625
just real quick, so we can get that one done and people

03:42:39.625 --> 03:42:42.415
can, put their sticky notes on the artwork and we can get

03:42:42.415 --> 03:42:44.367
through that voting process.

03:42:44.367 --> 03:42:47.257
'Cause I'm afraid people are gonna leave, and won't all vote.

03:42:47.257 --> 03:42:49.815
<v ->Madam Chair, right, so I understand so what we recommended</v>

03:42:49.815 --> 03:42:53.641
from the Committee on School Finance and Public School Fund

03:42:53.641 --> 03:42:58.641
is that we would take a, essentially a sticky note vote.

03:42:58.744 --> 03:43:01.288
And that you will write your district number

03:43:01.288 --> 03:43:03.309
on your sticky note.

03:43:03.309 --> 03:43:06.493
And you have two votes in the first round.

03:43:06.493 --> 03:43:08.208
Two votes in the first round.

03:43:08.208 --> 03:43:11.564
So, that you go and you place your sticky note,

03:43:11.564 --> 03:43:14.897
on the, either on the top or the bottom.

03:43:16.954 --> 03:43:19.569
Either above the design your voting for

03:43:19.569 --> 03:43:21.319
or one on the bottom.

03:43:22.308 --> 03:43:26.327
And then we will probably need to do a run off from that.

03:43:26.327 --> 03:43:27.692
<v ->Yeah, we'll do it a couple of times here.</v>

03:43:27.692 --> 03:43:28.784
But let's get this done.

03:43:28.784 --> 03:43:29.658
<v ->Madam Chair.</v>

03:43:29.658 --> 03:43:31.395
Just one thing.

03:43:31.395 --> 03:43:33.706
<v ->We had a great number, over 500 applications.</v>

03:43:33.706 --> 03:43:35.348
It took a while to get this done.

03:43:35.348 --> 03:43:39.598
We run it by the Intellectual Property Lawyer, (audio cuts out)

03:43:40.667 --> 03:43:43.972
it's about 178, so we're not going to be voting for 178,

03:43:43.972 --> 03:43:45.821
all the other ones therefore.

03:43:45.821 --> 03:43:47.723
<v ->Okay, great.</v>

03:43:47.723 --> 03:43:49.676
Alright, so let's put our stickies on here real quick.

03:43:49.676 --> 03:43:53.509
(members moving and chatting)

03:45:14.344 --> 03:45:15.969
Don't linger at the artwork.

03:45:15.969 --> 03:45:19.969
Put your stickers on there and let's keep going.

03:45:24.864 --> 03:45:27.864
We're on the PSF distribution, next.

03:45:28.788 --> 03:45:33.371
<v ->Also you have a vote with PSF that requires 10 votes.</v>

03:45:34.673 --> 03:45:38.506
(members moving and chatting)

03:47:30.335 --> 03:47:32.288
<v ->Okay, so the next item.</v>

03:47:32.288 --> 03:47:34.013
<v ->Members, we gotta move on here, stop talking.</v>

03:47:34.013 --> 03:47:34.846
Let's go.

03:47:34.846 --> 03:47:35.679
<v ->We're gonna lose our quorum.</v>

03:47:35.679 --> 03:47:37.724
<v ->We're losing our quorum here.</v>

03:47:37.724 --> 03:47:39.687
We've got big votes coming up.

03:47:39.687 --> 03:47:42.854
Everybody, come back in the room here.

03:47:43.765 --> 03:47:45.182
<v ->Okay, item two.</v>

03:47:46.050 --> 03:47:48.967
(members chatting)

03:47:56.178 --> 03:47:57.969
<v ->We're gonna vote again, real quick.</v>

03:47:57.969 --> 03:48:02.584
<v ->It says, item two, in your Wednesday minutes.</v>

03:48:02.584 --> 03:48:04.667
Board Agenda, page I-109.

03:48:12.066 --> 03:48:15.789
It pertains to the distribution rate.

03:48:15.789 --> 03:48:16.622
Ready?

03:48:16.622 --> 03:48:17.715
<v Woman>Yep.</v>

03:48:17.715 --> 03:48:19.909
<v ->The Committee, the full Board, recommends</v>

03:48:19.909 --> 03:48:23.215
that the State Board of Education approve the percentage

03:48:23.215 --> 03:48:26.349
distribution rate to the available school fund

03:48:26.349 --> 03:48:28.051
from the Permanent School Fund,

03:48:28.051 --> 03:48:31.968
for the 2020-2021 fiscal biennium of 2.9%.

03:48:35.530 --> 03:48:37.116
Takes 10 votes.

03:48:37.116 --> 03:48:40.199
(members discussing)

03:48:44.817 --> 03:48:46.044
<v Mr. Maynard>Madam Chair.</v>

03:48:46.044 --> 03:48:47.873
<v ->Yes, Mr. Maynard.</v>

03:48:47.873 --> 03:48:48.748
Did you?

03:48:48.748 --> 03:48:50.676
I thought you were gonna do a contingency on that one.

03:48:50.676 --> 03:48:51.622
<v Mr. Maynard>I am.</v>

03:48:51.622 --> 03:48:53.122
<v ->Okay, fantastic.</v>

03:48:55.499 --> 03:48:59.666
<v ->So, I'm gonna go ahead and move an amendment and</v>

03:49:03.307 --> 03:49:07.662
so, Madam Chair, I move to amend the motion by adding

03:49:07.662 --> 03:49:11.162
the words as follows, "if subsequent

03:49:11.162 --> 03:49:14.502
"to the November 16, 2018 General Meeting

03:49:14.502 --> 03:49:17.116
"of the State Board of Education, in prior to the first day

03:49:17.116 --> 03:49:21.483
"of the regular session of the 86th Legislature, the school

03:49:21.483 --> 03:49:25.776
"and board opts to distribute funds for the 2020-2021

03:49:25.776 --> 03:49:29.109
"fiscal biennium to the investment assets

03:49:30.045 --> 03:49:31.940
"of the Permanent School Fund managed

03:49:31.940 --> 03:49:34.516
"by the State Board of Education.

03:49:34.516 --> 03:49:37.666
"Then, the distribution by the State Board of Education

03:49:37.666 --> 03:49:39.947
"to the available school fund will be increased by an

03:49:39.947 --> 03:49:44.200
"equivalent amount provided that the distribution is 400 million

03:49:44.200 --> 03:49:45.533
"dollars or less.

03:49:46.625 --> 03:49:50.141
"And the percentage distribution rate for the '20-'21 fiscal

03:49:50.141 --> 03:49:52.408
"biennium will be adjusted to reflect that amount,

03:49:52.408 --> 03:49:55.523
"subject to the limits established by,

03:49:55.523 --> 03:49:58.325
"established in Article VII, Section 5A

03:49:58.325 --> 03:50:00.484
"of the Texas Constitution.

03:50:00.484 --> 03:50:02.487
"In the event of a distribution exceeding

03:50:02.487 --> 03:50:05.345
"400 million dollars, the Chair of the State Board

03:50:05.345 --> 03:50:07.150
"of Education will call a special meeting to address

03:50:07.150 --> 03:50:10.150
"the disposition of the distribution."

03:50:11.903 --> 03:50:14.028
<v ->Okay, we need that language projected.</v>

03:50:14.028 --> 03:50:15.180
<v Mr. Bradley>Madam Chair.</v>

03:50:15.180 --> 03:50:16.954
<v ->Yes, Mr. Bradley.</v>

03:50:16.954 --> 03:50:20.954
<v ->I will support your motion 2/3 of the way through.</v>

03:50:20.954 --> 03:50:23.204
(mumbling)

03:50:37.194 --> 03:50:39.229
<v ->Okay, now Mr. Bradley, go ahead.</v>

03:50:39.229 --> 03:50:43.568
<v ->Alright the gist of the amendment says that,</v>

03:50:43.568 --> 03:50:46.976
the way I understand it, is that if the body across

03:50:46.976 --> 03:50:51.976
the street decides to go ahead and make a distribution to

03:50:52.264 --> 03:50:55.967
the SBOE, Permanent School Fund, that 400 million of it

03:50:55.967 --> 03:51:00.550
will be subsequently increased in our ASF distribution.

03:51:03.294 --> 03:51:07.980
The second half of that though, if they have to send over,

03:51:07.980 --> 03:51:10.131
in excess of 400 million, you've done

03:51:10.131 --> 03:51:14.097
established a ceiling, if they send 200, 200 goes,

03:51:14.097 --> 03:51:19.097
300, 400, it all goes to the Available School Fund.

03:51:19.171 --> 03:51:21.613
The second half is needed.

03:51:21.613 --> 03:51:25.203
If it is in excess of 400 million, there's already

03:51:25.203 --> 03:51:27.958
a provision, it goes into the corpus of the fund.

03:51:27.958 --> 03:51:31.000
It would not require an emergency meeting of this Board

03:51:31.000 --> 03:51:33.468
to make that decision.

03:51:33.468 --> 03:51:35.766
In essence, it all goes into the corpus of the fund.

03:51:35.766 --> 03:51:39.349
It's just, we're gonna increase our payout.

03:51:41.370 --> 03:51:43.864
I don't think we're gonna come back to putting anything--

03:51:43.864 --> 03:51:45.913
<v Mr. Maynard>I would be, and I think that</v>

03:51:45.913 --> 03:51:49.214
where we left it is that we would call

03:51:49.214 --> 03:51:51.721
a special meeting, and I don't think if it was 55 million

03:51:51.721 --> 03:51:53.718
that we'd want to come back to town for that.

03:51:53.718 --> 03:51:56.570
<v ->But if it was another 500 million, we would probably</v>

03:51:56.570 --> 03:52:01.294
not come back to do it either, so, but my point is,

03:52:01.294 --> 03:52:05.941
even it's just 400, it's going to the corpus of the fund.

03:52:05.941 --> 03:52:07.640
That's the way it's structured.

03:52:07.640 --> 03:52:09.765
The action taking is we just expand our

03:52:09.765 --> 03:52:14.682
distribution percentage to equal an additional 400 million.

03:52:15.541 --> 03:52:19.547
<v ->And I would say that that actually would end up covering</v>

03:52:19.547 --> 03:52:23.464
the 25% that consideration for technology,

03:52:25.262 --> 03:52:27.530
so that is a good cut off for that.

03:52:27.530 --> 03:52:31.113
And then anything, in addition, should that miracle.

03:52:32.345 --> 03:52:35.182
<v ->I would just ask you reconsider your motion</v>

03:52:35.182 --> 03:52:38.000
and just stick to the first provision.

03:52:38.000 --> 03:52:42.064
That up to 400 million will be added to our Available

03:52:42.064 --> 03:52:43.589
School Fund distribution.

03:52:43.589 --> 03:52:44.471
<v ->Madam Chair, I'll just,</v>

03:52:44.471 --> 03:52:47.554
the part of that that refers to a meeting.

03:52:49.389 --> 03:52:51.383
I'll just withdraw that piece.

03:52:51.383 --> 03:52:53.937
<v ->Okay, so let's make sure we're reading, we know exactly</v>

03:52:53.937 --> 03:52:58.520
what we're voting on here and Ms. Kay is putting it up.

03:52:59.842 --> 03:53:04.222
Okay, winner to announce over here while we're waiting

03:53:04.222 --> 03:53:05.672
or are we down to two?

03:53:05.672 --> 03:53:07.367
<v Man>Down to two.</v>

03:53:07.367 --> 03:53:08.200
Those two?

03:53:08.200 --> 03:53:09.742
Okay.

03:53:09.742 --> 03:53:11.070
Alright, so now take off your stickers

03:53:11.070 --> 03:53:13.713
and put 'em on again, right?

03:53:13.713 --> 03:53:14.691
Wanted to do or?

03:53:14.691 --> 03:53:16.108
(mumbling)

03:53:16.108 --> 03:53:20.476
Oh, oh, oh, I thought we voted more than once.

03:53:20.476 --> 03:53:22.705
<v Woman>Madam Chair, let me tell the</v>

03:53:22.705 --> 03:53:25.734
<v ->Okay, hold on, hold on, Debbie is gonna tell us about how</v>

03:53:25.734 --> 03:53:26.567
to do it.

03:53:27.789 --> 03:53:32.640
<v ->Of the nine eligible finalists of 57A, which I believe</v>

03:53:32.640 --> 03:53:36.792
is the top one there, received 8 votes, the most votes.

03:53:36.792 --> 03:53:40.875
Second place was (audio cutting out)

03:53:44.594 --> 03:53:46.463
was the design on the bottom of that panel,

03:53:46.463 --> 03:53:49.463
came in second place with six votes.

03:53:50.591 --> 03:53:52.758
504B had five votes.

03:53:54.103 --> 03:53:57.186
164 had four votes, and 39 D had one.

03:54:02.438 --> 03:54:05.670
<v Woman>Well, wouldn't it be the same for (mumbling)?</v>

03:54:05.670 --> 03:54:06.945
It wouldn't be the same?

03:54:06.945 --> 03:54:09.624
<v ->No, it wouldn't necessarily 'cause now we're narrowed down</v>

03:54:09.624 --> 03:54:11.469
to just those two.

03:54:11.469 --> 03:54:14.099
<v ->Excuse me, didn't everyone only receive one vote?</v>

03:54:14.099 --> 03:54:15.092
<v Man>Two votes.</v>

03:54:15.092 --> 03:54:18.509
<v ->Right, but they only vote once for one.</v>

03:54:20.410 --> 03:54:21.927
<v ->Madam Chair.</v>

03:54:21.927 --> 03:54:22.927
Madam Chair.

03:54:26.046 --> 03:54:27.046
Madam Chair.

03:54:36.687 --> 03:54:39.847
<v ->So now, we're down to two.</v>

03:54:39.847 --> 03:54:41.781
<v Woman>That's what you said yesterday you were gonna do.</v>

03:54:41.781 --> 03:54:42.945
<v Mr. Maynard>Madam Chair.</v>

03:54:42.945 --> 03:54:45.754
<v ->Yes, oh yeah, Mr. Maynard.</v>

03:54:45.754 --> 03:54:47.971
<v ->Yeah, I mean, it needed to be clear</v>

03:54:47.971 --> 03:54:50.365
that it got 8 votes, but it's not a majority

03:54:50.365 --> 03:54:51.782
of votes cast.

03:54:51.782 --> 03:54:52.884
And so--

03:54:52.884 --> 03:54:55.259
<v ->As an example, I did not vote for any one of those,</v>

03:54:55.259 --> 03:54:56.912
but now we'll vote for one of those.

03:54:56.912 --> 03:54:57.789
<v Mr. Maynard>Right, yes.</v>

03:54:57.789 --> 03:54:59.212
So, Madam Chairman.

03:54:59.212 --> 03:55:00.301
<v ->Yes.</v>

03:55:00.301 --> 03:55:02.519
<v ->I just want to point out a couple of things</v>

03:55:02.519 --> 03:55:05.059
that everybody needs to understand is first of all, is

03:55:05.059 --> 03:55:09.147
that once we have finished this process,

03:55:09.147 --> 03:55:12.808
understand this, is that per our rules is that we can make

03:55:12.808 --> 03:55:15.388
tweaks to these, for instance,

03:55:15.388 --> 03:55:18.205
one of the things we have to do, is if PSF, by themselves,

03:55:18.205 --> 03:55:23.103
is not exactly kosher, simply due to the fact that there

03:55:23.103 --> 03:55:26.554
are other entities out there that have those letters.

03:55:26.554 --> 03:55:28.517
And so, for instance, we will have to.

03:55:28.517 --> 03:55:31.996
If we use one, that doesn't have the actual words,

03:55:31.996 --> 03:55:33.495
spelled out, Permanent School Fund, we're gonna have

03:55:33.495 --> 03:55:36.580
to add those or for instance, if we want to add like an

03:55:36.580 --> 03:55:39.195
established date, or the words, State Board of Education,

03:55:39.195 --> 03:55:40.409
we can add all those things.

03:55:40.409 --> 03:55:41.951
The second thing I want to make note.

03:55:41.951 --> 03:55:45.148
I'd just like to recognize the Executive Director of the Art

03:55:45.148 --> 03:55:48.013
Teacher's Association, who came today to watch this.

03:55:48.013 --> 03:55:48.956
<v Ms. Bahorich>Oh, wonderful.</v>

03:55:48.956 --> 03:55:51.059
<v ->Sara Chapman, will you please stand up?</v>

03:55:51.059 --> 03:55:52.568
<v Ms. Bahorich>Fantastic. (clapping)</v>

03:55:52.568 --> 03:55:54.564
Oh, thank you for coming, that's wonderful.

03:55:54.564 --> 03:55:58.153
<v Ms. Chapman>May I say something?</v>

03:55:58.153 --> 03:56:01.145
<v Ms. Bahorich>Sure, (inaudible) objection, it'd be great for her</v>

03:56:01.145 --> 03:56:03.161
to say something about this Art Contest.

03:56:03.161 --> 03:56:05.256
This was a big deal for the board.

03:56:05.256 --> 03:56:07.631
Would you like to come up to the microphone right here.

03:56:07.631 --> 03:56:10.940
Just introduce yourself and just say a couple of words here.

03:56:10.940 --> 03:56:13.020
You have to make it quick 'cause we've got to move on.

03:56:13.020 --> 03:56:15.270
We've got flights to catch.

03:56:17.095 --> 03:56:18.749
<v ->Thank you for allowing me to say something,</v>

03:56:18.749 --> 03:56:21.858
and it's nice to see a lot of friends in the Board

03:56:21.858 --> 03:56:23.128
here today.

03:56:23.128 --> 03:56:27.628
And thank you sir for the Fine Arts statement earlier,

03:56:28.672 --> 03:56:29.850
that was terrific.

03:56:29.850 --> 03:56:30.828
(mumbling)

03:56:30.828 --> 03:56:32.122
Yes, we did.

03:56:32.122 --> 03:56:36.826
Texas Art Education Association are educators in this state

03:56:36.826 --> 03:56:40.052
are extremely excited that you all included them

03:56:40.052 --> 03:56:42.244
in this endeavor.

03:56:42.244 --> 03:56:44.181
I think it's a wonderful choice.

03:56:44.181 --> 03:56:48.039
Mr. Maynard was significant in making this happen,

03:56:48.039 --> 03:56:50.875
along with I think Mr. Bradley also.

03:56:50.875 --> 03:56:55.875
And, I want you to know that the children that we involved

03:56:56.164 --> 03:57:00.557
are very, very talented and we wanted all to be able

03:57:00.557 --> 03:57:03.040
to share those talents with you all.

03:57:03.040 --> 03:57:06.067
And so we hope that we'll be able to come back and do other

03:57:06.067 --> 03:57:08.607
projects with you, just like this.

03:57:08.607 --> 03:57:10.090
Bravo to you all.

03:57:10.090 --> 03:57:11.124
Thank you very much.

03:57:11.124 --> 03:57:12.115
<v ->Thank you so much.</v>

03:57:12.115 --> 03:57:14.846
We appreciate you being here.

03:57:14.846 --> 03:57:19.017
Okay, members if you'll go ahead, we'll go ahead and take

03:57:19.017 --> 03:57:22.671
this, let's look at what the motion is before us,

03:57:22.671 --> 03:57:25.757
because it's now been amended by Mr. Maynard.

03:57:25.757 --> 03:57:29.473
And then, I'll just let you get up and put your stickers on,

03:57:29.473 --> 03:57:31.074
and we'll just keep moving.

03:57:31.074 --> 03:57:34.741
And you can talk and vote at the same, okay.

03:57:37.754 --> 03:57:39.837
Okay, so let's make sure.

03:57:41.241 --> 03:57:42.569
Why don't you read that?

03:57:42.569 --> 03:57:45.158
<v Ms. Crews>I'm having him proofread it before.</v>

03:57:45.158 --> 03:57:46.241
<v ->Okay, okay.</v>

03:57:51.188 --> 03:57:55.021
(members chatting and voting)

04:00:08.674 --> 04:00:10.551
<v ->Guys, we gotta rock and roll here,</v>

04:00:10.551 --> 04:00:13.587
we got several important votes to come.

04:00:13.587 --> 04:00:16.254
Okay, let me read the amendment.

04:00:17.159 --> 04:00:18.549
Is it projected?

04:00:18.549 --> 04:00:21.466
(members chatting)

04:00:27.398 --> 04:00:28.648
Oh, no problem.

04:00:34.444 --> 04:00:39.149
Okay, I'm gonna have Kay read the amendment before us now.

04:00:39.149 --> 04:00:43.498
The motion on, finished distribution for fiscal years

04:00:43.498 --> 04:00:44.665
2020 and 2021.

04:00:45.531 --> 04:00:47.135
<v ->Yes ma'am, thank you.</v>

04:00:47.135 --> 04:00:52.135
"If  subsequent to the November 16, 2018, General Meeting

04:00:52.537 --> 04:00:55.558
"of the State Board of Education, and prior to the first

04:00:55.558 --> 04:00:59.026
"day of the regular session of the 86th Legislature.

04:00:59.026 --> 04:01:03.341
" (audio cuts out) Board opts to distribute funds for the '20-'21,

04:01:03.341 --> 04:01:06.195
"fiscal biennium to the investment assets

04:01:06.195 --> 04:01:07.620
"of the Permanent School Fund managed by

04:01:07.620 --> 04:01:09.270
"the State Board of Education,

04:01:09.270 --> 04:01:10.961
"then the distribution rate by the

04:01:10.961 --> 04:01:14.835
"State Board of Education to the Available School Fund

04:01:14.835 --> 04:01:18.881
"will be increased by an equivalent amount."

04:01:18.881 --> 04:01:23.131
And that is the motion that Mr. Maynard would like.

04:01:28.862 --> 04:01:32.955
<v ->Okay, so the recommend that State Board of Education--</v>

04:01:32.955 --> 04:01:35.207
<v ->Right, and this is an amendment to the main--</v>

04:01:35.207 --> 04:01:36.289
<v ->To the top, right.</v>

04:01:36.289 --> 04:01:38.356
To approve the percentage distribution rate

04:01:38.356 --> 04:01:41.561
to the Available School Fund from the Permanent School Fund

04:01:41.561 --> 04:01:46.561
for 2020 and 2021 fiscal biennium of 2.9% and then if sub,

04:01:47.632 --> 04:01:50.106
and then the next part of the motion would be,

04:01:50.106 --> 04:01:53.309
if subsequent, and then you can read it up there.

04:01:53.309 --> 04:01:54.240
<v Mr. Bradley>Madam Chair.</v>

04:01:54.240 --> 04:01:55.517
<v ->Yes, Mr.Bradley.</v>

04:01:55.517 --> 04:01:56.850
<v ->A slight edit.</v>

04:01:58.784 --> 04:02:01.923
Talking about (audio cuts out) distribution rate by that State Board

04:02:01.923 --> 04:02:05.587
to the Available School Fund will be increased to reflect

04:02:05.587 --> 04:02:07.886
an equivalent amount.

04:02:07.886 --> 04:02:09.493
'Cause you're gonna change the percentage,

04:02:09.493 --> 04:02:11.056
you're not gonna change the dollar value.

04:02:11.056 --> 04:02:12.473
<v Man>Oh, okay.</v>

04:02:14.680 --> 04:02:16.176
<v ->If there's no objection, we'll go ahead and--</v>

04:02:16.176 --> 04:02:18.823
<v Woman>Is that what we should to say Mr. Bradley?</v>

04:02:18.823 --> 04:02:21.073
<v ->To reflect an equivalent.</v>

04:02:29.461 --> 04:02:33.002
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay members, I gotta have a vote</v>

04:02:33.002 --> 04:02:34.002
on this one.

04:02:36.991 --> 04:02:38.162
<v ->Madam, Madam.</v>

04:02:38.162 --> 04:02:39.529
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes.</v>

04:02:39.529 --> 04:02:42.867
<v Mr. Bradley>Madam Chair, real quick, to allay any concerns.</v>

04:02:42.867 --> 04:02:45.196
We were working on the other language to try to put

04:02:45.196 --> 04:02:47.528
a ceiling on there.

04:02:47.528 --> 04:02:49.353
We don't know what he will send.

04:02:49.353 --> 04:02:50.914
What they will send.

04:02:50.914 --> 04:02:54.251
If they were to just send a billion dollars,

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the Chair and if the Board felt uncomfortable

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in releasing a full amount like that,

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the Chair still has the option of calling

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an emergency meeting and we can set a rate again.

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<v ->Okay, everybody know what we're voting on here?</v>

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Everybody sees it?

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<v Man>Amendment only takes a majority right?</v>

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<v ->Amendment will take the majority.</v>

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All those in favor, raise you hand or hands.

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All those in favor of this amendment.

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All those opposed to the amendment.

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Okay, now, we're back to the full motion before us

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which is to prove the percentage distribution rate

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to the Available School Fund, from the Permanent School fund

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for the 2020-'21 fiscal biennium of 2.9%

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as amended.

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I like that, yes, as amended.

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All those in favor, raise you hand again.

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(members chatting)

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And all those opposed, raise your hands.

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Okay, motion is adopted.

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Okay.

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<v ->Chair, could you tell us what the vote was,</v>

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so it's absolutely clear there was 10 in favor.

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<v ->You know that's absolutely a good idea,</v>

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what was it?

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I don't know.

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<v ->10 in favor and no against.</v>

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Okay.

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<v ->10 in favor, no opposed.</v>

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<v ->Ready?</v>

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Next item.

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Is item number three on your minutes.

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It's on page two of the minutes.

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It's Board Agenda page I-113, Official Agenda,

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item number five.

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Dealing with Proclamation 2019.

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The committee, the Board recommends that the State Board

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of Education require that all publishers make corrections,

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listed in the report of required corrections of factual

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errors and the proclamation 2019 editorial changes

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require that all instructional materials meet established

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manufacturing standards and specifications

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of pages and corrections submitted in response

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to written comments and public testimony

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and place instructional materials submitted for adoption

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on the adopted list as indicated

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on the list of instructional materials eligible

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for adoption, under Proclamation 2019 excluding

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those products submitted by TPS Publishing, (audio cuts out) Publishing Inc.

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<v ->Any further discussion.</v>

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Are you ready for the, yes, Mr. Maynard.

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<v ->I guess my question, my question to the group is that</v>

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I know that there's been huge concern about TPS

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and certainly concerns that were warranted.

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It's my understanding that what was submitted in August

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certainly didn't really meet the standards and there was

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some huge breakdowns in the editing process.

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I guess my question is, is that, well does this

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at this point, comply with the law?

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And does it comply with the proclamation.

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In terms of when we went at it, so solicit bids,

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does it meet those requirements?

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I guess is my concern is, our decision that it could be

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interpreted as being not consistent with what,

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with our advertising bids and maybe deemed

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to be somewhat arbitrary.

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(mumbling)

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<v ->Madam Chair.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Rowley.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, I have a question for counsel that if we're about</v>

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to receive legal advice, particularly in light of some

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of the communications that have been sent to us that appear

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to me to be threats of litigation, then whether we should

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go into executive session before that question,

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preferably before it was posed,

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but now before it's answered.

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<v ->We certainly can resolve to into Executive Session</v>

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to discuss the potential litigation.

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(mumbling)

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<v ->Go ahead.</v>

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<v ->Well, what.</v>

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<v ->Do you wanna go first?</v>

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<v ->Okay, well we heard a lot of numbers.</v>

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<v ->Okay, wait a minute, so if this is relevant to.</v>

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<v Ms. Cargill>TPS and the testimony.</v>

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<v ->Madam Chair, my point is only if we receive legal advice</v>

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in response to Mr. Maynard's question, then my suggestion,

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I'm asking counsel, whether or not that should be done

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in Executive Session?

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Particularly in light of what could potentially

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be a threat for litigation.

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We all received an email from TPS, that sounded to me like,

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in fact, I think legal action would be contemplated.

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And so, that's my only point.

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<v ->Alright, so, here, I wanna read this following statement,</v>

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so the record.

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For the record, to announce Executive Session for discussion

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of pending litigation.

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State Board of Education Board will now go into Executive

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Session to discuss pending litigation accordance with

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the Texas Government Code, Section 551.071 1A,

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the Executive Session will be held in room 1-103,

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I assume is that?

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This is the Executive Session of State Board of Education

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Committee, not committee, the Full Board,

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this is the Full Board, right?

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Of the State Board, Friday,

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Okay, Friday, November 16th at 1:37p.m.

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This is the conclusion, oops, I'll read this when I get out.

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Okay.