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Good morning, everybody.
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This meeting of the Railroad Commission of Texas
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will come to order to consider matters
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which have been duly posted with the
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Secretary of State for November 13th, 2018.
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The Commission will consider the items on the
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agenda as posted on the agenda.
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Under our public participation policy,
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anyone desiring to offer public testimony
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on any items that are not noticed
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on today's agenda will need to fill out
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a testimony form found in the back of the room
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and submit it to Commission Secretary Kathy Way.
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A reminder to turn off your cell phones.
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And wow we have two people in the chairs.
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So welcome, Dana.
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And item number one.
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Good morning, John.
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Good morning, good morning commissioners.
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I'm John Dodson, Administrative
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Law Judge, Hearings Division.
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Agenda item one, GUD number 10739
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is a gas utility rate case filed by Texas Gas Service
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to increase the rates in its North Texas service area.
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Commission staff is the only intervening party
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and the Commission has jurisdiction in this case
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over environs rates only, not rates in cities.
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Ultimately TGS and staff reached a settlement agreement,
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agreeing to an apportioned increase of approximately
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$168,000 for NTSA for environs customers,
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which is a reduction from TGS's
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initial request of approximately $215,000.
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Recovered by TGS of an average of $19,313
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from environs customers through a
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pipeline integrity testing pit rider.
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Cost of equity set at 9.75%.
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Reduction of the corporate income tax rate
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from 35% to 21% to reflect changes
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due to tax cuts and jobs after 2017.
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A one-time refund of TGS, by TGS
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of approximately $47.23 to each customer
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and based on a 12-month period.
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And recovery of rate case expenses incurred
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by TGS totally no more than $87,714.22.
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We recommend approval of this settlement.
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TGS timely filed exceptions to the PFD
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that addressed certain type of
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graphical and clerical errors.
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We verified the accuracy of those errors
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and made all the necessary changes
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to the recommended final order that I have here today.
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The deadline for Commission action is January 19th, 2019
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and we're available for questions.
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[Chairwoman Craddick] Thank you, gentleman.
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Is there any questions?
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No.
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I'm move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Second, Commissioner Sitton.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, items approved.
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Thank you John.
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Thank you.
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Good morning Jennifer.
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Good morning.
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Jennifer Cook with the Hearings Division.
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In item two, Cholla Petroleum Inc.
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Filed a single-signature F form
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P4, a Certificate of Compliance
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and Transportation Authority requesting
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it be designated the Commission Operator of Record
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for well number three on the Young-82 lease
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in the Roscoe South Pen Line field in Nolan county.
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The form P4 did not contain the signature
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of the current Commission operator for record for the well.
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Mokan Capital LLC is the current
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Commission Operator of Record for the well.
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Mokan asserts its underlying contractual lease
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is not terminated such that it still has a Good Faith
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claim and the well should not be transferred to Cholla.
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Cholla's position is that Mokan's
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contractual lease has terminated.
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The contractual lease is passed the primary term.
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It states the lease remains in effect after
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the primary term so long as there is production.
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The lease also states it does not terminate
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if reworking or drilling operations commence
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within 60 days of the cessation and production.
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Mokan has reported zero production over
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60 consecutive days four times,
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each being between approximately 92 and 123 days.
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Mokan asserts its contractual lease has not terminated.
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Mokan provided testimony and documentation
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that when the well ceased producing,
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Mokan conducted reworking or drilling operations.
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Production resumed after each of
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the four cessations of production.
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Even if a bona fide lease dispute exists,
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it does not defeat Mokan's Good Faith claim.
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Lease disputes are outside the
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jurisdiction of the Commission.
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The examiners recommend the Commission
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find Mokan provided a reasonably satisfactory showing
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it still has a Good Faith claim to operate the well
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and deny Cholla's application to transfer the well
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to Cholla as the Commission Operator of Record.
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Exceptions were filed and I'm available for questions.
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[Chairwoman Craddick] Thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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[Commissioner Sitton] Yeah I do have questions.
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Jennifer, you said that Mokan
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provided testimony and documentation
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that they had reworked the well.
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What documentation was provided?
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They provided some payment
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and invoices that they had paid.
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I believe you refer to them as a plugger, or--
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[Commissioner Sitton] A pumper.
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Pumper, yes.
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[Commissioner Sitton] So I saw in here
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that there were, I guess, checks
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or check stubs or check receipts.
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Was there anything other than that that was provided?
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I don't recall.
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I think that was the focus of the discussion.
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[Commissioner Sitton] That's what I saw on the record.
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I just wanted to make sure that it was there.
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Yes, yes.
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I think Heber provided some electricity invoices too
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that he had maintained the electricity on the wells.
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I think that was also some of the documentation.
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[Commissioner Sitton] So an issue here
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appears to be that you've got, we've got
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four periods of time that clearly went
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longer than the lease stipulated
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in terms of the amount of time that
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we could have zero production, but the issue is
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that the current operator, Mokan,
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claimed that they had, in this case,
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"oh, well, we had done reworking operations earlier."
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Reworking operations.
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And the evidence of that was checks to pumpers.
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And testimony by Mokan's representative.
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Okay.
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When we go to, in fact I thought one of the
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comments here that was provided in the case summary
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responded by Cholla was where they reference
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the Texas Pattern Jury Charge
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where it says in there that drilling
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or reworking operations means actual work
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or operations in which an ordinarily competent operator,
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under the same or similar circumstances,
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would engage in a Good Faith effort with
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due diligence to cause a well or wells to
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produce oil or gas in paying quantities.
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I thought that was a very good reference
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because if I understand right also
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from their exceptions that this well only
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produced four barrels of oil for a 14 month period
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and in the first two instances where there were
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92-day lapses they came back and only produced one barrel.
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That well doesn't even meet our definition
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of an active well for the period that it was in operation.
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So I think that while your point about it
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being a lease dispute would be,
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I understand that lease disputes are handled in court,
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but if the question is was this a producing well
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and were there actual operations that were happening
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to cause it to be a producing well,
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it seems like that all of the evidence
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that was provided says it wasn't.
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Now I do feel like that's our responsibility
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to make that determination.
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The other thing is that obviously
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the mineral owner felt like that
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they had not met the lease operations
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and I didn't see that they were involved in the case
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here at all which I understand this was a P4 dispute.
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But if the mineral owner has gone out and said
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"hey these are not meeting the requirements of the lease
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"because the well is not producing, it hasn't produced,"
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and all the evidence is a check to a pumper.
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And then the testimony, I understand,
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but the check to the pumper doesn't
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demonstrate that the pumper did anything.
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Now it's just words.
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I sure have a hard time saying that Mokan
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in this case has demonstrated that they were
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doing the things to comply with the
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basic lease requirements to have a producing well.
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With that, Chairman, I'm gonna--
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I don't agree with the findings in this case
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and I think we should go in a different direction.
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That's my questions.
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Alright, you have any questions?
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The main concern about the lease owners
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that you brought up, commissioner,
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are there any here to testify for the lease owners today
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or any representation from them?
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There's somebody here from Cholla.
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The attorney's here from Cholla.
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But that's the only person that's
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signed in that I'm aware of.
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I'm always concerned but if there was
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a significant problem I would expect
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somebody representing them to be here before us.
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They weren't party to the case
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but they had released the minerals in this case
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to another producer after a couple long spans of--
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Right well my concern wasn't what you mentioned
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is if the owners had problems I'd be concerned of that
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but I don't see evidence that they're here, so.
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Okay.
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That's my question.
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If you'd like to do your motion
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I don't know what you're motion might be,
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I'm inclined to stay with where we are.
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I think lease disputes unfortunately ought to be
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in the court house and not here.
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Well as I said, I think that this case is a
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lease dispute but the basis is was this a producing well?
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In our definition this would've been
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an inactive well for a period of 14 months.
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I don't think that the amount of evidence
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that was produced demonstrates that the current operator,
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former operator was complying with the lease.
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If the two of y'all want to go with this
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then, my motion would be to
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to grant Cholla's application
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to become a D4 operator on this well.
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Do you have a second?
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I don't think you have a second at this point.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Do we have any other questions?
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Alright, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Second, Commissioner Christian.
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All is favor say aye?
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[Chairman and Commissioner Christian] Aye.
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Opposed?
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Nay.
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Motion passes, items approved.
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Thank you Jennifer.
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Item number three.
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Thank you.
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Good morning, Chairman and commissioners.
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My name is Lynn Latombe, the
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Administrative Law Judge with the Hearings Division.
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I'm here to present items three through five,
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all of which are P5 motions for rehearing.
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Item number three is a motion for
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rehearing filed by ABX Oil and Gas Inc.
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On September 18th, 2018 a final order was singed
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by the Commission denying the renewal of the
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operator's P5 organization report because
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the operator has wells noncompliant with Statewide Rule 15.
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In its motion, the operator states they are
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soliciting a bid to plug their noncompliant
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wells and asked to postpone the
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consideration of their P5 situation.
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Staff responds that seven wells are noncompliant.
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It is recommended that the motion be denied.
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The motion is overruled by operation
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of law on December 27th, 2018.
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I'm available for any questions.
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Thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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[Commissioner Sitton] Nope.
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I move we approve
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the examiner's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Second, Commissioner Sitton.
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All those in favor say aye?
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, items approved.
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Number four.
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Item number four is a motion for
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rehearing filed by Atwell Technical Services Inc.
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On September 28th, September 18th, excuse me, 2018
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a final order was entered by the Commission
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denying the renewal of the operator's P5
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organization report because the operator
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has wells noncompliant with Statewide Rule 15.
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In this motion, the operator explains that
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a reduction in staff has caused
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a delay in filing its paperwork.
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Staff responds that 17 wells are noncompliant.
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It is recommended that the motion be denied.
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The motion is overruled by operation
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of law on December 27th, 2018.
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I'm available for any questions.
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Thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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[Commissioner Christian] Nope.
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I move we approve
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the examiner's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Christian] Second.
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Second, Commissioner Christian.
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All those in favor say aye?
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, items approved.
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Number five I hear is good news.
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Number five is good news.
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Item number five is a motion for rehearing
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filed by Wilcox Operating Corporation.
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Subsequent to filing their motion for rehearing,
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they have come into compliance.
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We recommend granting the motion for rehearing
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and dismissing the underlying docket as moot.
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I'm available for any questions.
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Are there any questions?
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I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Second Commissioner Sitton.
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Will all those in favor say aye?
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, items approved.
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Thank you, Lynn.
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Thank you.
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Alright, we're now going to items six through 25,
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the Oil and Gas consent agenda.
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There are 20 items on this consent agenda.
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I move we approve items six through 25.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Christian] Second.
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Second, Commissioner Christian.
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All in favor say aye?
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, those items are approved.
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Items 26 through 46, which are
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rule 15 and active well items.
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There are 21.
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We don't have any changes on those?
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Okay, I move approve items 26 through 46.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Sitton] Second.
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Second, Commissioner Sitton.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, those items approved.
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Master default, there are 10 master default orders.
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I move that we approve items 47 through 56.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Christian] Second.
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Second, Commissioner Christian.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, those items are approved.
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Agreed enforcement orders.
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I move that we approve items 57 through 244.
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There are 188 of these.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Sitton] Second.
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Second by Commissioner Sitton.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motion passes, those items are approved.
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That concludes the Hearing section.
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Thank you.
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We'll now take up the administrative matters.
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(papers shuffling)
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Good morning Chairman and commissioners.
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Good morning.
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For the record, Wei Wang, Executive Director.
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Glad to report that we're maintaining
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the one-day turnaround time for creating a permit.
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And today we plugged 284 wells
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and completed five clean up activities.
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In the hiring front, our headcount grew to 757.
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Now that's seven additional employees from last report.
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So we'll continue that effort in the district offices
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hiring technical reviewer and inspectors.
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That concludes my report today
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and I'm available for questions.
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Thank you.
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Do you have any questions?
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Thank you.
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Good morning Chairman and commissioners.
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For the record, my name is Alex Schoch,
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Chair and General Counsel of the
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Railroad Commission of Texas.
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For item 246, we've got nothing to report today.
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Haley has items 247 and 248.
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Good morning, Haley.
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Good morning, Chairman and commissioners.
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Haley Cochran with the Office of General Counsel.
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Item number 247 pertains to commissioner approval
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of certain contracts pursuant to
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the Commission's delegation of authority.
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The Commission's internal delegation of authority
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requires commissioner approval of contracts
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and associated amendments greater than or equal to $500,000.
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Section 2261.254 of the government code requires
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approval of contracts and associated amendments
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greater than one million dollars.
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At issue today is the approval of $750,000
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for solicitation and resulting contract for
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mainframe transformation services in Fiscal Year 2019.
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Additionally staff seeks approval for an amendment
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to an existing site remediation contract
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for the Kilgore district office.
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Approval of these items will ensure agency operations
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remain on schedule and will ensure
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compliance with the Commission's
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delegation of authority and state law.
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Thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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I move we approve the staff's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Christian] Second.
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Second Commissioner Christian.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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That motion passes, items approved.
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248.
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Item 248 is staff's recommendation
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to publish proposed amendments to
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16 Texas Administrative Code, Section 3.25, 26, and 27,
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related to common storage and commingling.
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Most of the amendments are proposed in section 3.26.
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These amendments change how an operator
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applies to commingle production,
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which currently requires a rule exception.
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The proposed amendments would specify
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two instances in which an exception is no longer required.
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One: where an operator measures production
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from each tract and each reservoir separately;
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and two: where the tracts and reservoirs have
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identical working interest and royalty interest ownership.
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In these instances an operator would still be
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required to apply for a commingle permit
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but would not be required to apply for an exception.
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At an upcoming conference, staff will propose a new form.
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The form is 17A, which an operator will file
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if commingling pursuant to the proposed amendments.
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The proposed amendments to sections
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3.25 and 3.27 reflect the changes to 3.26.
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All of the proposed amendments are described in detail
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in the preamble which is in your notebook materials.
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Staff requests the Commission's
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approval to publish the proposed amendments
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in the Texas Register for public comment.
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If approved today, the proposal should appear in the
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November 30th issue of the Register.
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The proposal and an online comment form
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would also be made available on the Commission's website,
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giving interested persons more than
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two additional weeks to submit comments.
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I can answer any questions.
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Thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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I move we approve the staff's recommendation.
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Is there a second?
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[Commissioner Sitton] Second.
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Second by Commissioner Sitton.
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All those in favor say aye.
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[All commissioners] Aye.
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Motions passes, items approved.
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Thank you, Haley.
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You have anything else, Alex?
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Alright, item 249 is our public participation item.
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No one has turned in any other cards
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indicating they wish to speak on any non-posted items.
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Item 250 is our executive session,
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which we'll not be going into today.
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Are there any other duly posted matters
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to be brought in front of the Commission hearing?
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Hearing none, this meeting is adjourned.
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Thank you all.