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We are in for a real treat this morning

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and so I'm gonna call on Miss Perez-Diaz

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to introduce us to this wonderful group

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that we're about to hear from.

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Thank you Madam Chair, good morning

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ladies and gentlemen in the audience,

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board members, staff.

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It is my distinct honor and privilege

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to introduce to you the beautiful scholars

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you see in front of you.

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They are here representing District 3

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and San Antonio specifically, from Southwest ISD.

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In front of you you have the jazz ensemble

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of Southwest Legacy High School and Southwest High School.

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These two bands have collaborated together,

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are led by Miss Amanda Balarin,

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director of Southwest Legacy High School

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with the support of Mr. Martin Barrera.

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And then at Southwest High School,

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you have Miss Natalie Ball, director,

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with the support of Mr. Patrick Airre.

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I wanna take this moment really quickly

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to recognize two other individuals.

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This morning we have the Director of Fine Arts,

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Mr. Richard Flores who helped to facilitate this.

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Mr. Flores, thank you so much.

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(applauding)

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And we are also being visited by the superintendent

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of schools from Southwest ISC, Dr. Lloyd Versteff.

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(applauding)

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This group of scholars and their directors

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are absolutely phenomenal.

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You got to listen to them if you were here early, practice.

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I'm excited to hear what they have produced for you all

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and I just have to say really quickly,

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for the last couple of years I've always had

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the honor of bringing the September student performers

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which is always a challenge because it's

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the very first performance with the new school year.

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And so I have to say that what you're about

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to listen to today was actually rehearsed three times

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between the two different high schools,

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so it's pretty impressive because they sound amazing.

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Thank you all so much and without further ado.

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(applauding)

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much Southwest ISD scholars,

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to our directors that are here,

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to our families that were able to come

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and support your children.

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Thank you so much.

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This is why fine arts education

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is so incredibly critical in our schools.

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(applauding)

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I am very proud to represent you all

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and thank you so much for making the trip.

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I hope you all have a safe drive back home.

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And board members, I think we're gonna take a break

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so that our scholars can make their way out.

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So thank you all so much.

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(applauding)

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Members, we're gonna go ahead and call on

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Member Maynard for our invocation and then pledges.

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All right. Good morning members and first,

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piece of scripture from Deuteronomy says, this an excerpt.

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"You shall therefore impress these words on your heart

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"and on your soul.

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"You shall teach them to your children,

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"talking of them when you sit in your houses

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"and when you walk along the road,

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"and when you lie down and when you rise up."

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Certainly, the words of Moses have a religious connotation,

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but really, these words are really about building a nation.

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It was about establishing a national culture

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for a people who had been oppressed

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and enslaved in Egypt.

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The commandment really speaks to the duty

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of one generation to teach the next generation.

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The first State Constitution of Texas,

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and the current one, speaks about the general

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diffusion of knowledge being essential

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for the preservation of the liberties

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and rights of the people.

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The Texans who framed these constitutions

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reminded each other that the Texas went to war

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for public education.

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And acknowledged the fact that unless a people

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is educated and enlightened, it is idle

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to expect the continuance of civil liberty

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or the capacity for self-government.

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So to, that's the mission

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as we gather here to ensure that Texas

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and America remains a place of freedom,

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where each citizen can fulfill his own

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God given potential to dream dreams

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and make those dreams come true.

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Pursue his or her own happiness.

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To worship or not to worship,

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according to the dictates of his or her conscience.

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To expect justice for the law and to enjoy

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the blessings of liberty.

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And with that, let us consecrate this time

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and as we go to the throne.

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Dear God, we thank you for the opportunity

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to be engaged in this noble cause of education,

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of fashioning and molding the minds,

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the hearts of over 5.4 million young children

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across this great state.

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We're mindful of those who came before us

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and that laid the foundation for what we do, Father.

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And we just are mindful that we stand on their shoulders,

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dear God and we are mindful of the fact, dear God,

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that the work that we do here

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stretches far into the future

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and echos into eternity.

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Now Father, we seek your wisdom.

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Your word tells us that if anyone lacks wisdom

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that they should ask, believing.

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And we certainly ask for your wisdom

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and your guidance at this moment.

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Now we just pray all this in the name of Jesus

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and for his sake, amen.

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If we will stand for the pledges, but before,

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before we do the pledges, if you'll just indulge

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me for just a minute.

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People give me a little bit of a hard time about

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historical context and so we're gonna talk

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just briefly, as we do the pledges.

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The Pledge of Allegiance was actually

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written by a minister who had left the ministry

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and gone to work for the promotions department

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of a magazine called Youth's Companion Magazine.

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And the pledge was actually written as a promotion

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for the Columbian Exposition in Chicago in 1892

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that opened in October of 1892

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to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Columbus'

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arrival in the new world.

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And that was the History behind that.

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But the Texas pledge is actually,

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a lot of people don't know this, but it is actually

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a tribute to influential women in Texas.

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So House Bill 575 that established the Texas Pledge,

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in the 43rd legislature in 1933,

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was authored by the youngest woman

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ever elected to the legislature, Sarah T. Hughes.

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And it was signed into law by the state's first

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female governor, Miriam Ferguson.

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Now Sarah T. Hughes, maybe you don't know who that is,

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but she was the youngest woman, she was from Dallas.

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And she was a former police officer.

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She was an attorney.

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And she left the legislature to become a judge

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and she was the first female judge in Texas

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and the first female federal district judge in Texas

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and she has the distinction of being the only woman

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to swear in a president.

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It was Sarah T. Hughes who swore in

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Lyndon Johnson on the airplane, on the Tarmac

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in Dallas, Texas.

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Debbie Riddell was the sponsor of house bill 1034

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in 2007, they added the words, "Under God."

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And so as we think about the Texas pledge,

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it is about influential women in Texas.

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Women, right?

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So, all right.

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(applauding)

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all.

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And now the Texas flag.

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Honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas.

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One state under God.

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One and indivisible.

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You may be seated.

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I think you probably picked up on who

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the board historian is.

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Thank you, Mr. Maynard.

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We really appreciate that and I certainly didn't know it.

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I don't if the fellow members did

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or the audience members, but thank you

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for enlightening us on that.

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And now we'll go ahead and have a role call.

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Miss. Perez.

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Mr. Cortez.

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Here.

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Miss Perez-Diaz.

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Here.

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Mr. Allen.

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Present.

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Mr. Mercer.

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Present.

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Mrs. Bahorich.

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Here.

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Mr. Bradley.

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Still here.

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Mrs. Cargill

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Dr. Ellis.

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Here.

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Mr. Maynard.

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Miss Hardy.

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Mrs. Miller.

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Miss Beltran.

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Mrs. Melton-Malone.

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Here.

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And Mr. Rowley.

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Here.

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All right, and members, if there,

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first item for us is the approval of the minutes

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from the June 15th meeting.

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Are there any corrections to the minutes?

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Hearing none, minutes are approved.

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And now we'll have our first resolution

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and I wanna call on Charles Sadnick,

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Director of History Programs at the

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Texas Historical Commission.

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Charles, if you'll come up to one of these microphones.

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Perfect.

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Good morning.

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There we go.

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Good morning.

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Thank you for allowing me to speak to you all today.

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I am Charles Sadnick.

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I work for the Texas Historical Commission.

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Behind me ar MK Marshall, Director of Education Services

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for the Texas State Historical Association.

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And Bob Ward, Chair of the Travis County

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History Commission and a member of the

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Antiquities Advisory Board.

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This room actually holds a lot of nostalgia for me.

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I was formerly director of the Texas Holocaust

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and Genocide Commission and we had many

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quarterly meetings here.

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But more importantly, the first major accomplishment

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of that agency involved the state board.

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In 2010, we asked the board to include

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Holocaust and genocide related education

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into the TEKS and you graciously accepted.

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The decision benefited our Texas students

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and I wanna thank you for that.

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Today on behalf of the Texas Historical Commission,

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the Texas State Historical Association,

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and the Travis County Historical Commission,

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I would like to again, ask for your assistance.

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Sunday November 11th will mark the 100th anniversary

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of the armistice that silenced the guns

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of the first world war.

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This conflict killed millions of the world's citizens,

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including 116,000 Americans.

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5,000 of whom were our fellow Texans.

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In honor of this historic anniversary,

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as you return to your districts, we ask that you help

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promote our our 100 years, 100 schools initiative.

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This program encourages Texas schools

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to incorporate World War One themed programming

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into their Veteran's Day events.

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In particular, the initiative encourages schools

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to use this centennial to highlight

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the historical significance of the war

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and its role as the origins of Veteran's Day.

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The THC and our initiative partners

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have assembled a variety of resources

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available online to help educators develop

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and execute programming that works for their school.

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These are excellent resources.

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Before working for the state, I was a teacher

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in Round Rock and I wish I had these available to me

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as I tried to give students that sense

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of importance and significance.

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A reason why we study History.

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These worry sources also encourage partnerships

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with local military organizations.

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They are a wonderful way for our students

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and teachers to connect with their community's veterans.

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In recognition of their efforts,

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participating schools will each receive

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several World War One themed items.

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Some of these same items are in bags

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that you've been provided.

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Thank you in advance for your efforts

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on behalf of Texas Schools to commemorate

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this important event in History

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and thank you for your time today.

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We're here if you have any questions for us.

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Thank you.

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(applauding)

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All right, Mr. Cortez.

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Good morning.

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Got a History lesson today like I generally do

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from Member Maynard.

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He's full of all kinds of very curious facts

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and today was no exception.

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But before we get started and as we talked about,

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as you talked about the origins of the Texas flag

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and its tribute to women,

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we have one woman on our board

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that we wanted to recognize today.

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And I'm gonna pass the floor over to Sue Melton-Malone

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before we get started.

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We're gonna take a moment of privilege here.

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We have a lady today that we would like to honor.

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It's a very special day for her.

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So everyone that would like to join me, please join.

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday dear Donna ♪

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ And many more. ♪

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Thank you, that was a real treat.

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Thank you.

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We will begin, I believe, with Long Range.

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The resolution on Long Range.

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Okay.

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whereas, the State Board of Education

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is statutorily required to develop

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a Long Range Plan for Public Education,

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and whereas, State Board of Education members

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felt it was important to receive input

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from a diverse group of Texans as they prepared

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this strategic plan.

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And whereas, the board created a Long Range Plan

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for Public Education Steering Committee,

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and issued a statewide call to citizens to serve

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on the panel and whereas, more than 600 people

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were nominated to serve on this Steering Committee.

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And whereas, five State Board of Education members

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and 13 stakeholders were chosen to serve

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on the Steering Committee and whereas, the steering

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committee made up of teachers, administrators,

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parents, business representatives,

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higher education officials, students,

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local school trustees, state agency representative,

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and State Board of Education members,

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met throughout the 2017/2018 school year.

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And whereas, the group worked diligently researching

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issues and examining the challenges and opportunities

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facing Texas public schools.

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And whereas, Steering Committee members helped host

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committee meetings held around the state.

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And whereas, the Steering Committee ultimately

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proposed recommendations under broad categories

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of equity and access, educator recruitment,

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preparation and retention, student empowerment

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and engagement, and family empowerment and engagement.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that the SBOE

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does hereby express its gratitude to Lynette Greenhall,

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Adeeve Barcawe, Ricky Bonae, Avery Bolic,

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Sherry Dos, Stacy Edmonson, David Gardner,

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Carol Carl, George Kansas, Reagan Miller,

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Gonzalo Salazar, Rebecca Shaw, and Ruth Lopez Turley

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for their diligent service and be it further resolved

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that the board extends its thanks to state board members,

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Donna Bahorich, Barbara Cargill, Tom Maynard,

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Georgina C. Perez, and Marty Rowley

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for their faithful work on the Steering Committee.

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And be it further resolved that this resolution

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be presented to each member of the Steering Committee

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and that a copy be included in the permanent records

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of the State Board of Education.

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Witnessed our signatures on this 14th day

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of September, 2018 in Austin, Texas.

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Donna Bahorich, Chair.

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Rueben Cortez Jr., Secretary.

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Madame Chair, I move for adoption of the resolution.

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Seven days.

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(laughing)

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I vote for...

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If you were on the Steering Committee,

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come join me in the middle, at the circle please.

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And members, I just wanna move

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the presentation of the resolution,

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I don't think you actually moved that.

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You just read through it, right?

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We'll have it moved through.

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I made a motion, that was the second.

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You moved the adoption, okay.

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All those in favor please applaud the Long Range

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Steering Planning Committee.

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We really appreciate it.

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(applauding)

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Steering Committee members, if you can join

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Member Cargill on the circle.

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(chattering)

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(applauding)

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Yes.

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Madam Chair, just to point a personal privilege

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if that's okay, Dr. Cozanes that was on

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the Steering Committee has recently been recognized

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as Region 12 Superintendent of the Year.

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Oh wow, congratulations George.

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That's wonderful.

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(applauding)

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(speaking with no mic)

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(laughing)

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I love that.

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Everything he knows.

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Everything he knows.

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Again, we're so so grateful for the Long Range Plan

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Steering Committee, we worked on this for,

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when was the first meeting?

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When was that?

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September?

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September of last year is when we began

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and it was a very thoughtful, very thorough,

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very inclusive process with all the public

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meetings that we had across the state.

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I think there were 12 all together, right?

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Because we had two that were video connections,

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but had 12 meetings across the state.

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And had over 12,000 Texans involved all together,

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including the large online survey that we put out

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on the work of the Long Range Plan committee.

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Yes, Miss. Beltran.

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Thank you, Madame Chair.

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Also wanted to take a moment of just personal privilege.

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Lynette was the District 13, I don't see you,

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where did you go?

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Okay.

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Hi Lynette, thank you so much for all of your work.

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So Lynette was appointed, as I mentioned,

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from District 13 and I know, in addition to

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just her everyday role at the Dallas Chamber,

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took this on and I'm just so grateful to you

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for all of the work that you've done.

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And not only did she join the committee,

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but became the vice chair and just took this

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really seriously and just invested

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so much time and energy. So Lynette, I just wanted

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to personally thank you for all of your work.

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Thank you.

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(applauding)

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And we're not gonna let them off the hook yet,

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because when we finally do approve the plan,

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when it's complete we're gonna need the Steering

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Committee to help us get the word out

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and to make sure that folks know about the plan

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and are supportive of the ideas, the recommendations

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and visions that the Steering Committee worked on so hard.

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So thank you, again, so much.

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The whole board is very grateful.

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Okay.

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I think we have one more resolution.

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I do, one very important resolution, yes.

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Good morning.

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I'd like to welcome all of you as the

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State Board of Education recognizes

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outstanding volunteers who have given

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generously of their time toward Texas schools.

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Independentsector.org estimates that every hour

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of volunteer time is worth $24.69.

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We have 15 people we're about to honor

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that have given thousands of dollars

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of free service to our schools.

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We can't tell you the exact contribution

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because these folks count their volunteer

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activity in years rather than hours.

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In fact, these 15 honorees estimate

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that they have collectively provided

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Texas public schools with 223 years of volunteer service.

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(applauding)

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As each hero is recognized, the recipient

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will receive a framed certificate and a copy

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of a resolution which the board will vote on momentarily.

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They will also receive a certificate of appreciation

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from the Governor of the State of Texas.

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At this time I would like to introduce our heroes

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from District one through Seven.

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So if we can get our Districts One through Seven

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heroes in the circle.

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Members from Districts One through Seven,

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if you can join your hero.

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My hero from District Two,

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you're gonna be standing next to Marisa Perez

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while I read the resolution and the introductions

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about each of you.

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(people chatting)

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If anybody else wants to come and take pictures

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of video you can definitely come stand back here.

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You'll get great, great shots from over here.

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So we're gonna begin with our hero from District One,

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is Rebecca Clossin from the

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El Paso Independent School District.

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Ms Clossin's nominator says her nickname

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should be Superwoman.

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She says like Superwoman this lady does it all

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and with four boys at three different schools.

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Her nominator, Nicole Frieder,

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who was herself a Hero for Children Award recipient in 2014,

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estimates that Mrs. Clossin has provided

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1,000 of volunteer service over the past three years.

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Ms. Clossin was in charge of the yearbook

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at Lundy Elementary and made sure

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that every student and every event was in the yearbook.

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She was the vice president for the PTA membership,

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organized family movie nights,

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ran the Boots and Bling Silent Auction and Dinner Dance.

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Hosted teacher luncheon and drove van loads

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of middle school students and their instruments

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to competitions, just to name a few

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of her volunteer activities.

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Ms. Clossin, you must take a lot of vitamins.

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You really are a superwoman.

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Thank you for your service to our children.

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(applauding)

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Our hero for District Two,

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my district, Mirtala Vasquez.

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A volunteer in the La Joya Independent School District

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is a hero from my district.

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Ms. Vasquez has been a school volunteer for seven years.

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She is recognized as a strong advocate,

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leader and supported in the La Joya ISD

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and the Palm View area.

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She serves on the superintendent's parent round table,

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the district side base decision making committee,

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as well as parent advisory committees

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at the middle school and high school levels.

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Ms. Vasquez also serves on school health advisory counsel.

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Ms. Vasquez has become and important liaison

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between schools and parents.

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Thank you, Mrs. Vasquez.

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(applauding)

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Now here's something,

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here is something that rarely happens.

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La Joya Independent School District

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has two heroes for children recipients this year.

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This is because our state board districts,

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Marissa's and mine, split boundaries

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between one school district and sometimes

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ISD's are divided that way and so we are pleased

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to honor Elvia Olivares, our hero recipient

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for District Three.

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Mrs. Olivares.

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Mrs. Olivares has volunteered in the

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La Joya Independent School District for 12 years.

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She said she first volunteered our of fear.

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Her oldest son was headed to middle school

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and she wanted to make sure he hung out with good kids.

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I'm sure a lot of parents can relate to this.

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She also wanted to be accessible to his teachers.

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Now she volunteers for the joy of it.

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Ms. Olivares has found that she likes

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creating special school events such as

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Hollywood-themed middle school mini prom,

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making homecoming mums for student counsel nominees,

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and raising funds for football and wrestling teams.

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She also serves on the district's advisory committee,

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the round table committee, she is president

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of the Parent Advisory Committee.

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Thank you, Mrs. Olivares and congratulations

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to the La Joya School District

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for having two outstanding volunteers.

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(applauding)

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Our hero from District Four, Ida Rocha,

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who volunteers at the Galina Park ISD.

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Ida Rocha is the answer lady in Galina Park.

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So many people in the community came to her

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for answers about school district and youth events in 2015,

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she created Ida's 411 Facebook page.

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Many parents rely on her information.

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Her nominator says, through her huge heart

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and considerate nature she fills the needs

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that most did not even realize exist.

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As an example, after Hurricane Harvey devastated

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the area a year ago, Mrs. Rocha led a group

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of concerned mothers who created

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an Adopt A Child initiative,

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a group that works with social workers to help students

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whose families are facing financial hardships.

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Without knowing the identity of the students,

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the group gathered and provides whatever the students need.

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Clothes, shoes, glasses, registration fees for activities.

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Anything that is needed.

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Thank you, Mrs. Rocha for always having

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answers and solutions.

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(applauding)

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Our hero for District Five, Michael Demming,

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who volunteers in Boerne ISD.

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When Michael Demming retired from

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the Boy Scouts of America, he didn't stop

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working with young people.

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When he moved to Boerne a decade ago,

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he called up the principal of the newest

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elementary and asked to volunteer.

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He has helped children there

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with their reading, with their math skills,

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for about five years.

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He also assists one of the life skills inclusion teachers.

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Mr. Demming became the district's first

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mentor match with a student.

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He worked with this young man for five years

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and now had two additional mentees.

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He also helps make presentation to attract

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other men to the mentor/mentee program.

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During his decade of volunteerism in the district,

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Mr. Demming has become known as a friend,

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role model, and advocate for students at the district.

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Thank you, Mr. Demming, for your lifetime

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commitment to young Texans.

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(applauding)

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The hero for District Six, Lynn Dozier,

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who has volunteered in Klein ISD for seven years.

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Ms. Dozier is a person who has had a lifetime

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commitment to children.

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After teaching 30 years, she became a school volunteer

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within weeks of retiring.

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She joined the Klein Education Foundation

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where she now serves its head of grant writing committee.

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Mr. Dozier has simplified the grant application

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and conducts grant writing workshops.

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Once decisions have been made about who

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will receive the grants, she rides the celebration express,

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which is a big yellow bus to deliver the grant checks.

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Along with helping with various other

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volunteer projects, she began coordinating

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a mentorship program between her church

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and an elementary school.

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In addition, Ms. Dozier co-chaired the political

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action committee that promoted the successful

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bond issue in 2015.

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Thank you for your dedication

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to the Klein Independent School District.

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(applauding)

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The hero for District Seven is David Sincere,

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who has volunteered for 20 years in various

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Fort Bend Independent School District Schools.

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When Mr. Sincere was a boy and his family faced adversity,

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members of the neighboring church

634
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came to the family's aid, providing groceries

635
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and a birthday cake for him.

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He has never forgotten.

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It showed him what can happen when someone cares

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and is sparked with his own commitment to volunteering.

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Mr. Sincere has mentored students, sponsored campus clubs,

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hosted community forums, served on the district's

641
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board leadership academy, facility trauma

642
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informed care training and created

643
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a non-profit called Advocacy Now Institute

644
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to inspire others to give back.

645
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Mr. Sincere has been an active force for good,

646
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for so many Fort Bend Schools that several people

647
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wanted to nominate him for this award.

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Thank you for your sincere dedication.

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(applauding)

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One more round of applause for our Districts

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One through Seven heroes.

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(applauding)

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Congratulations to all of you.

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If we can get our heroes eight, Districts Eight through 15

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to make their way into the circle.

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Members, if you can join your hero.

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Thank you all for your dedication to our children.

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Anyone who wants to take photographs or video,

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they can do it from behind this rope line.

660
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That's probably your best vantage point.

661
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Y'all can just step up just a bit.

662
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No, not you.

663
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Oh, okay.

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Okay, well we're gonna begin with our hero

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from District Eight, is Laura Clark who has volunteered

666
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in Humble ISD for 18 years.

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Mrs. Clark would be a good general.

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(laughing)

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She knows how to mobilize her troops.

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She's organized many projects

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that involved multiple schools.

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This PTA leader organized a book drive for title one schools

673
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more than 3,000 books were collected

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for nine title one schools.

675
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When she learned that many children could not afford

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nice Sunday best clothes to wear

677
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in the manners luncheon, in which fifth graders

678
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learn proper table manners and etiquette,

679
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Ms. Clark organized a children's traveling closet,

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which is going strong and is now in its 10th year.

681
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Her volunteer work has begun with one project,

682
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arts education, now spans the district in Humble ISD

683
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and is better for it.

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Thank you, Mrs. Clark.

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(applauding)

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General Clark.

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Our hero from District Nine is Jennifer Harris,

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who has volunteered in Pine Tree ISD for 10 years.

689
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Unfortunately, she is ill and cannot be with us today,

690
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but is here in spirit.

691
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Mrs. Harris is literally a lifesaver.

692
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Five years ago she asked a local hospital to help her start

693
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a heart scan event to identify potentially

694
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hazardous heart conditions.

695
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The Play it Safe East Texas program

696
53:33.763 --> 53:37.180
has found at least one student athlete with a

697
53:37.180 --> 53:39.110
hidden heart condition each year.

698
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She also supported an athletic program through the

699
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creation of the Pine Tree Kick-Off Crew,

700
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which is a fundraiser and a new way

701
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to get younger fans involved by letting them

702
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escort the football team onto the field.

703
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Mrs. Harris has been active in numerous

704
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other volunteer activities at Pine Tree,

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including serving as president of the

706
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Pine Tree Education Foundation.

707
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The Foundation has awarded more than $217,000

708
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in grants and endowments to support district projects

709
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and professional developments.

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Thank you, Mrs. Harris.

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(applauding)

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I'm sure Member Ellis is gonna have a great big

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celebration for her at Pine Tree.

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Our hero for District 10 is Russell Rictor,

715
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who has volunteered at Thrawl ISD for more than 30 years.

716
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The Thrawl superintendent says he's never seen

717
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a stronger volunteer.

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We think he means that literally and figuratively.

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Mr. Rictor has put his muscle into many projects

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such as packing up classrooms, unpacking library materials,

721
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building flower beds, building baseball dugouts,

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and moving debris from district property.

723
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Mr. Rictor has also been strong in his

724
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dedication to the district.

725
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A paramedic, Mr. Rictor convinced the

726
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Thrawl Fire Department to attend all home football games,

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so that they can be on hand in case someone is injured.

728
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Mr. Rictor also serves on the district School

729
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Health Advisory Committee, has presented at college

730
55:26.590 --> 55:31.590
and career days, and has taught lessons about heart health.

731
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Thanks, Mr. Rictor.

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You truly have demonstrated servant leadership.

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55:37.255 --> 55:39.672
(applauding)

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Our hero for District 11, Marco Braas,

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who volunteers in Azle ISD.

736
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A few years ago Mr. Braas, an engineer,

737
55:57.445 --> 56:00.714
heard a Career in Technical Education presentation

738
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at his local optimist meeting.

739
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He approached the district officials afterwards

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with an idea of creating a high school program

741
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in industrial refrigeration.

742
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This is an area with plentiful jobs

743
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and too few skilled workers.

744
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Mr. Braas wanted to train high school students

745
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in advanced physics as it related to refrigeration.

746
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He donated all the equipment needed for the program

747
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and teaches a class free of charge.

748
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Now Azle ISD has the only program in the US

749
56:41.621 --> 56:44.198
that is training high school students

750
56:44.198 --> 56:47.170
in the natural refrigeration industry.

751
56:47.170 --> 56:50.050
Mr. Brass also paid for student memberships

752
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in professional organization,

753
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professional organization and helps

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students attend conferences.

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Six students have already received the certified assistant

756
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refrigeration operator certification.

757
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Thank you, Mr. Braas.

758
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Your project will make a lifelong difference

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for these students.

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Congratulations.

761
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(applauding)

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Our hero for District 12, Maureen Glazer,

763
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who has volunteered in Dallas ISD for five years.

764
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Ms. Glazer worked with a new principal

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to turn her children's Dallas elementary school

766
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into a child-centered environment

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with strong literacy culture.

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Whether it was a painting mural herself

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by the school's front door or creating an outdoor

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science courtyard complete with coy pond,

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a flower garden, and a pergola,

772
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she wanted the school to be the sweet

773
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happy place for children.

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But it's the literacy program that really

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touched Ms. Glazer's heart.

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She spearheaded an effort to launch the

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Tread or Travel the World Through Reading program.

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It is based on accelerated reading model

779
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and awards prizes to students as they master

780
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each reading level.

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She helped create an Around the World theme

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for the library and created the World Cafe

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to inspire children about their world.

784
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Thank you, Ms. Glazer,

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for all you've done, especially to ignite

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a child's passion for reading.

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Congratulations.

788
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(applauding)

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The hero for District 13 is Rosalinda Martinez,

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who has volunteered with the

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Fort Worth Independence School District for 11 years.

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Mrs. Martinez served as the Parent Teacher Organization,

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or PTO treasurer, secretary, vice president, and president.

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She's created two Parent Teacher Association organizations

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on two campuses.

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Due to her leadership skills, she has been appointed

797
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to the Fort Worth Independent School District

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Citizens Oversight Committee,

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the district's Advisory Committee,

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and the Site-Based Decision Making Committee

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59:22.500 --> 59:26.500
on two campuses, just to name a few.

802
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Perhaps her most significant contribution

803
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has come on the Citizen's Oversight Committee

804
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which works to maintain accountability and integrity

805
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of the bond projects.

806
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Due to her diligence, the district and committee

807
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were able to maintain 13 million in funding

808
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to build a cutting edge campus to replace

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the 1970s era school called Washington Heights Elementary

810
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that was built underground.

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Thank you, Mrs. Martinez for all of your work

812
0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.912
on behalf of Texas children.

813
1:00:01.912 --> 1:00:04.329
(applauding)

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1:00:07.060 --> 1:00:10.840
The hero for District 14 is John Gallon,

815
1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:15.840
who has volunteered for 26 years in Copperas Cove ISD.

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1:00:16.870 --> 1:00:21.170
Like our District Six hero, Mrs. Dozier,

817
1:00:21.170 --> 1:00:26.170
Mr. Gallon is a retired educator who still comes to school

818
1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.020
and educates children.

819
1:00:28.020 --> 1:00:30.999
He says it's a privilege to continue to educate

820
1:00:30.999 --> 1:00:33.300
and mentor children.

821
1:00:33.300 --> 1:00:36.720
Mr. Gallon mentors students, helps students

822
1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:40.060
with their reading and raises fund to provide

823
1:00:40.060 --> 1:00:41.590
free books to children.

824
1:00:41.590 --> 1:00:46.590
He has also helped tutor, judged, MCed contests

825
1:00:47.717 --> 1:00:51.320
for DECA and other Health Occupation Student

826
1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:53.720
of America, HOSA organizations.

827
1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.050
Mr. Gallon also serves on a number of boards

828
1:00:57.050 --> 1:00:59.680
including the district's Campus Site-Based

829
1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:01.420
Decision Making Committee.

830
1:01:01.420 --> 1:01:03.559
Thank you, sir, for your dedication to children.

831
1:01:03.559 --> 1:01:06.131
And I love your blue socks, by the way.

832
1:01:06.131 --> 1:01:08.548
(applauding)

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1:01:12.110 --> 1:01:15.920
Last, but not least, our final hero is Cheryl Meek

834
1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:17.735
from District 15.

835
1:01:17.735 --> 1:01:22.373
Mrs. Meek has volunteered for Spearman ISD

836
1:01:22.373 --> 1:01:26.887
for more than 50 years.

837
1:01:26.887 --> 1:01:29.304
(applauding)

838
1:01:32.660 --> 1:01:34.730
More than half a century.

839
1:01:34.730 --> 1:01:39.730
Mrs. Meek has been an accompanist for the choir

840
1:01:40.870 --> 1:01:42.261
and band events.

841
1:01:42.261 --> 1:01:46.278
She's an experienced hand at accompanying students

842
1:01:46.278 --> 1:01:48.887
with musical UIL competitions.

843
1:01:48.887 --> 1:01:52.630
Mrs. Meek also plays the piano at the baccalaureate

844
1:01:52.630 --> 1:01:55.015
and graduation ceremonies.

845
1:01:55.015 --> 1:01:59.310
In more recent years, she has helped found

846
1:01:59.310 --> 1:02:01.240
the read with a buddy program.

847
1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:03.608
This is an afterschool program in which students

848
1:02:03.608 --> 1:02:07.200
in the first and second grade meet once a week

849
1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:09.200
to meet with an adult mentor.

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1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:12.000
Not only is she an active participant,

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1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:15.511
but she recruits other adults to help with this program too.

852
1:02:15.511 --> 1:02:18.147
She was also involved with the formation

853
1:02:18.147 --> 1:02:21.927
and implementation of the Snack Pack for Kids program,

854
1:02:21.927 --> 1:02:26.295
that prevents childhood hunger by providing students

855
1:02:26.295 --> 1:02:28.810
with food for the weekends.

856
1:02:28.810 --> 1:02:33.655
Mrs. Meek, we stand in awe of your service

857
1:02:33.655 --> 1:02:35.640
to the Spearman ISD.

858
1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:37.011
Congratulations.

859
1:02:37.011 --> 1:02:39.428
(applauding)

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1:02:48.310 --> 1:02:50.420
Congratulations one more time to our

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1:02:50.420 --> 1:02:52.905
Districts Eight to 15 winners.

862
1:02:52.905 --> 1:02:55.322
(applauding)

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1:02:56.340 --> 1:02:59.360
Fellow board members, it has been our honor to present

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1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:04.360
this award to school volunteers since 1994.

865
1:03:04.690 --> 1:03:07.227
It's always an inspirational event.

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1:03:07.227 --> 1:03:10.814
Now that you've heard about this year's heroes,

867
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I'd like to move for the adoption

868
1:03:13.149 --> 1:03:15.450
of the resolution before you.

869
1:03:19.500 --> 1:03:21.514
Heroes, if you've not had an opportunity to take

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1:03:21.514 --> 1:03:23.728
your photograph, members has everyone

871
1:03:23.728 --> 1:03:25.450
taken their photograph?

872
1:03:25.450 --> 1:03:26.800
Has anybody not taken theirs?

873
1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:29.270
Has anyone not taken their photograph?

874
1:03:29.270 --> 1:03:30.103
Okay, terrific.

875
1:03:30.103 --> 1:03:31.690
Okay, wow, we're doing good today.

876
1:03:31.690 --> 1:03:33.260
We're doing well, absolutely.

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1:03:33.260 --> 1:03:35.759
Madame Chair, I have a motion in a second.

878
1:03:35.759 --> 1:03:39.430
Members, all those in favor please applaud

879
1:03:39.430 --> 1:03:40.911
our heroes one more time.

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1:03:40.911 --> 1:03:43.328
(applauding)

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1:03:49.540 --> 1:03:52.470
223 years of volunteer service.

882
1:04:04.340 --> 1:04:06.620
I can't think of a more fitting birthday present

883
1:04:06.620 --> 1:04:09.855
I've received than heroes for children recognition

884
1:04:09.855 --> 1:04:14.855
and "Suspicion" by, this morning from the jazz band.

885
1:04:15.240 --> 1:04:16.800
That's like my favorite song.

886
1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.110
And you all, I almost embarrassed myself by standing up

887
1:04:19.110 --> 1:04:22.007
and doing disco right there in the corner.

888
1:04:22.007 --> 1:04:24.097
(laughing)

889
1:04:24.097 --> 1:04:27.160
All right, let's go forward on the agenda.

890
1:04:27.160 --> 1:04:28.890
I think we've got public testimony.
Madam Chair?

891
1:04:28.890 --> 1:04:29.870
Oh yes.

892
1:04:29.870 --> 1:04:30.890
We haven't voted on the...

893
1:04:30.890 --> 1:04:32.320
We applauded instead of voting.

894
1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:35.020
Okay, and so we need to take our group photo

895
1:04:35.020 --> 1:04:37.760
in the lobby now with the heroes.

896
1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:39.060
Oh, okay, everybody.

897
1:04:39.060 --> 1:04:39.893
I didn't realize.

898
1:04:39.893 --> 1:04:40.726
Yes.

899
1:04:42.900 --> 1:04:44.370
Oh, you just need the heroes, you don't need us.

900
1:04:44.370 --> 1:04:45.320
Okay, so sorry.

901
1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:46.430
All heroes--
I misunderstood.

902
1:04:46.430 --> 1:04:47.870
All heroes, we're not off the hook.

903
1:04:47.870 --> 1:04:49.140
Just the heroes, heroes.

904
1:04:49.140 --> 1:04:49.973
Heroes.

905
1:04:50.861 --> 1:04:52.030
If you could follow our staff,

906
1:04:52.030 --> 1:04:53.830
they wanna get a picture of all of you in the lobby.

907
1:04:53.830 --> 1:04:55.360
Yeah, we want a picture of the heroes

908
1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:57.040
in the lobby.
Thank you all very much

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for your services.

910
1:04:58.910 --> 1:05:00.260
Again, thank you so much.

911
1:05:01.850 --> 1:05:04.850
(people chattering)

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1:05:15.713 --> 1:05:19.510
And members, just while they're filing out,

913
1:05:19.510 --> 1:05:23.660
I wanted to remind you about the Teacher of the Year Lunch.

914
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If you will let Debbie know ASAP, like right now,

915
1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:28.440
if you plan on going to that.

916
1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:30.870
It's a, 11:30 is when it actually starts.

917
1:05:30.870 --> 1:05:32.060
The program starts at noon.

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If you plan on going over, across the building

919
1:05:34.190 --> 1:05:37.130
to the Bob Bullock Museum, right?

920
1:05:37.130 --> 1:05:38.577
Bob Bullock Museum over here

921
1:05:38.577 --> 1:05:43.100
for that Teacher of the Year luncheon we were invited to go.

922
1:05:43.100 --> 1:05:45.613
And if you'd like to, just let Debbie know.

923
1:05:45.613 --> 1:05:47.390
It's at lunch today.

924
1:05:48.546 --> 1:05:49.910
(people chatting)

925
1:05:49.910 --> 1:05:50.930
I know, yeah.

926
1:05:58.090 --> 1:06:00.531
Yes, that's good point.

927
1:06:00.531 --> 1:06:01.830
Yeah, that'd be great.

928
1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:21.560
Members, I think we'll go ahead and do,

929
1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:25.140
go ahead and go through the agenda and then do

930
1:06:25.140 --> 1:06:27.470
public testimony at the end there.

931
1:06:31.900 --> 1:06:35.450
We've got, the first thing on the agenda

932
1:06:35.450 --> 1:06:38.050
is to do the approval of our consent agenda.

933
1:06:40.795 --> 1:06:43.530
And I'll read through each of the items.

934
1:06:45.479 --> 1:06:48.560
The first item on the consent agenda is decision

935
1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:50.240
on percentage distribution of the Permanent

936
1:06:50.240 --> 1:06:54.520
School Fund for Fiscal Years 2020 and 2021.

937
1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:57.480
Second item is approval of proposed timeline

938
1:06:57.480 --> 1:07:01.194
to meet credit by exam per provider requirements.

939
1:07:01.194 --> 1:07:04.062
Third item is per capita apportion rate for the

940
1:07:04.062 --> 1:07:07.980
2017/2018 school year.

941
1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:13.390
Fourth item is the ratification of the purchases

942
1:07:13.390 --> 1:07:15.320
and sales of the investment portfolio

943
1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:17.630
of the Permanent School Fund for the months of May, June,

944
1:07:17.630 --> 1:07:19.090
and July 2018.

945
1:07:19.950 --> 1:07:23.441
The fifth item is determination as to whether

946
1:07:23.441 --> 1:07:26.460
transfers may be made from the Permanent School Fund

947
1:07:26.460 --> 1:07:29.020
to the Available School Fund.

948
1:07:29.020 --> 1:07:33.042
Sixth item is the decision on real estate investments.

949
1:07:33.042 --> 1:07:36.830
And Mrs. Miller will be excused from item six,

950
1:07:36.830 --> 1:07:39.380
the decision on the real estate investments.

951
1:07:43.050 --> 1:07:44.310
Is there any other,

952
1:07:48.350 --> 1:07:49.600
is there any objection to approving

953
1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:51.200
the consent agenda as presented.

954
1:07:53.300 --> 1:07:55.490
Hearing none, consent agenda is approved.

955
1:07:57.117 --> 1:07:59.810
All right, now we're gonna get into Committee

956
1:07:59.810 --> 1:08:02.210
of the Full Board and I believe that's Mr. Rowley.

957
1:08:02.210 --> 1:08:05.200
Good, members, we're looking at the first

958
1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:10.200
set of minutes from the Tuesday meeting, September 11th.

959
1:08:10.860 --> 1:08:13.080
We're on page five.

960
1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.000
It's the adoption of the Long Range Plan

961
1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:17.002
for Public Education.

962
1:08:17.002 --> 1:08:20.920
It's official agenda item number three.

963
1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:22.910
It's on your board agenda page, I-1.

964
1:08:27.133 --> 1:08:28.620
And this is on Tuesday's?

965
1:08:28.620 --> 1:08:30.795
This is Tuesday's.

966
1:08:30.795 --> 1:08:33.090
It's page five of Tuesday's, September 11th.

967
1:08:33.090 --> 1:08:33.923
Because we had two.

968
1:08:33.923 --> 1:08:36.460
Yeah, you have two sets of minutes.

969
1:08:38.980 --> 1:08:40.870
Ms. Cargill has a question.

970
1:08:40.870 --> 1:08:43.408
I think we'll present the motion, then you will,

971
1:08:43.408 --> 1:08:45.339
then I'll recognize it.

972
1:08:45.339 --> 1:08:46.576
Oh you don't need the motion yet?

973
1:08:46.576 --> 1:08:48.044
Not right yet.

974
1:08:48.044 --> 1:08:49.167
Okay?

975
1:08:49.167 --> 1:08:50.587
All right, so members of there,

976
1:08:50.587 --> 1:08:53.270
it's recommended by the state board,

977
1:08:53.270 --> 1:08:56.070
that the State Board of Education approve the draft

978
1:08:56.070 --> 1:08:58.447
of the Long Range Plan for Public Education

979
1:08:58.447 --> 1:09:01.040
as amended by the Committee the Full Board.

980
1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:04.540
And I believe Attachment A has been provided,

981
1:09:04.540 --> 1:09:06.280
that contains that document.

982
1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:07.610
And now, Ms. Cargill.

983
1:09:10.714 --> 1:09:14.490
Madam Chair, I move to postpone further consideration

984
1:09:14.490 --> 1:09:17.760
of the Long Range Plan until our November meeting.

985
1:09:20.490 --> 1:09:21.323
Is there--

986
1:09:21.323 --> 1:09:22.465
Do I need to--

987
1:09:22.465 --> 1:09:24.540
Is there any discussion?

988
1:09:24.540 --> 1:09:25.730
Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz.

989
1:09:25.730 --> 1:09:29.387
May I ask what the impetus for this recommendation is?

990
1:09:29.387 --> 1:09:33.070
Yes, as we discussed, oh sorry, Ms. Cargill.

991
1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:37.438
Yeah, we talked about this, I guess, on Tuesday

992
1:09:37.438 --> 1:09:40.600
and one of our objectives, since there were

993
1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:43.370
kind of some last minute adjustments and suggestions

994
1:09:43.370 --> 1:09:45.020
that we got from the public.

995
1:09:45.020 --> 1:09:47.603
And so one intention is to get the latest draft

996
1:09:47.603 --> 1:09:49.812
out to the Steering Committee, but also to allow

997
1:09:49.812 --> 1:09:53.040
board members to send it out to your constituents

998
1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:55.390
and your school districts and superintendents.

999
1:09:55.390 --> 1:09:56.970
So we just felt like there was a little bit

1000
1:09:56.970 --> 1:09:59.490
too much change at the end and not too much time

1001
1:09:59.490 --> 1:10:01.130
for public comment.

1002
1:10:01.130 --> 1:10:02.600
So that is the intent.

1003
1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:07.600
So as you all recall, the Long Range Plan for Technology,

1004
1:10:07.618 --> 1:10:11.240
we didn't get posted in combination with our plan

1005
1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:12.980
until Monday of this week.

1006
1:10:12.980 --> 1:10:14.961
And we've talked about it on Tuesday.

1007
1:10:14.961 --> 1:10:18.035
So we really just feel, and in talking to Melody Parrish,

1008
1:10:18.035 --> 1:10:23.035
also, who headed up the technology piece

1009
1:10:23.230 --> 1:10:25.840
of the plan that's included as part of our plan,

1010
1:10:25.840 --> 1:10:28.500
she thought that that extra time

1011
1:10:28.500 --> 1:10:29.960
would be quite good as well.

1012
1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.440
Yeah, Mr. Rowley and then back to Ms. Perez.

1013
1:10:34.440 --> 1:10:36.620
We might also recall on Wednesday

1014
1:10:36.620 --> 1:10:38.644
that the Commissioner's comments included

1015
1:10:38.644 --> 1:10:43.090
a review of that plan and maybe references to the

1016
1:10:43.090 --> 1:10:47.470
TEA Long Range Plan being ingrafted into it also.

1017
1:10:47.470 --> 1:10:48.303
So that would be--

1018
1:10:48.303 --> 1:10:51.040
That's right, so basically in the plan

1019
1:10:51.040 --> 1:10:54.020
as you will recall reading through it are examples

1020
1:10:54.020 --> 1:10:56.730
of work being done right now by the agency

1021
1:10:56.730 --> 1:10:59.490
that are examples of the recommendations

1022
1:10:59.490 --> 1:11:01.510
that the Steering Committee, the board,

1023
1:11:01.510 --> 1:11:03.360
that the board will be recommending.

1024
1:11:03.360 --> 1:11:06.920
And so the Commissioner would like to take advantage

1025
1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.910
of that extra time, also to give us the examples.

1026
1:11:09.910 --> 1:11:12.858
And we have some right now we could pass out to you.

1027
1:11:12.858 --> 1:11:13.691
I have.

1028
1:11:13.691 --> 1:11:15.214
Have you already passed it out?

1029
1:11:15.214 --> 1:11:16.540
It looks like...

1030
1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:20.470
What does it look like?

1031
1:11:21.780 --> 1:11:23.880
With the blue stripe at the top.

1032
1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:26.020
This is an example in the,

1033
1:11:27.510 --> 1:11:30.330
of the Early Childhood Division initiatives.

1034
1:11:30.330 --> 1:11:34.310
So it might be useful and my plan is to ask

1035
1:11:34.310 --> 1:11:36.560
the Steering Committee to look through what the

1036
1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:38.483
Commissioner gives us as examples of the kinds

1037
1:11:38.483 --> 1:11:42.870
of initiatives that are going on across the state

1038
1:11:42.870 --> 1:11:45.990
in the four various areas that we're approving.

1039
1:11:45.990 --> 1:11:50.185
And then basically to vote those, vote on those

1040
1:11:50.185 --> 1:11:53.990
as to which ones we would like to include

1041
1:11:53.990 --> 1:11:55.960
as part of a Long Range Plan by the time

1042
1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:57.460
we get to November.

1043
1:11:57.460 --> 1:12:01.410
So basically, the idea as we discussed around the table

1044
1:12:01.410 --> 1:12:04.290
on Tuesday night was we just felt it wasn't

1045
1:12:04.290 --> 1:12:07.320
out long enough with everything, including the changes

1046
1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:09.960
plus the plan itself just hasn't been out long enough.

1047
1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:13.990
We did not get it actually out, even posted,

1048
1:12:13.990 --> 1:12:16.510
the Long Range Plan part, until shortly before

1049
1:12:16.510 --> 1:12:19.950
Labor Day weekend and so just needed some more time

1050
1:12:19.950 --> 1:12:21.850
for the public to vet it.

1051
1:12:22.760 --> 1:12:25.310
So just as a follow up to that, so it seems like,

1052
1:12:26.500 --> 1:12:29.200
so we're looking at the early childhood issue,

1053
1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:30.390
I don't remember that being an issue.

1054
1:12:30.390 --> 1:12:34.019
I think we all came to a consensus that that was something

1055
1:12:34.019 --> 1:12:35.540
that we really wanted to see happen.

1056
1:12:35.540 --> 1:12:36.922
Right, right.

1057
1:12:36.922 --> 1:12:39.940
So I am, I almost wanna ask if we can move forward

1058
1:12:39.940 --> 1:12:41.310
with the rest of the Long Range Plan and just

1059
1:12:41.310 --> 1:12:43.560
parcel out the Technology Long Range Plan,

1060
1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:44.393
because that's understood.

1061
1:12:44.393 --> 1:12:45.560
There were a lot of changes being made

1062
1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:47.380
with the technology piece.

1063
1:12:47.380 --> 1:12:48.962
But I'd like to move forward with the rest of the plan

1064
1:12:48.962 --> 1:12:51.950
because I personally didn't hear anything

1065
1:12:51.950 --> 1:12:54.570
from the committee members for the Long Range Plan.

1066
1:12:54.570 --> 1:12:56.780
They were very excited, the ones that I've spoken to

1067
1:12:56.780 --> 1:12:59.363
about seeing this get approved this week.

1068
1:12:59.363 --> 1:13:04.363
I would ask if the committee, I would ask if the board

1069
1:13:05.700 --> 1:13:08.351
would consider moving forward with the Long Range Plan

1070
1:13:08.351 --> 1:13:13.351
as has been amended and pulling out the technology piece.

1071
1:13:18.370 --> 1:13:19.379
Okay.

1072
1:13:19.379 --> 1:13:21.460
(muffled mic)

1073
1:13:21.460 --> 1:13:23.767
No, that's speaking against the motion.

1074
1:13:23.767 --> 1:13:25.147
It's speaking against the motion, okay.

1075
1:13:25.147 --> 1:13:26.870
Okay.

1076
1:13:27.710 --> 1:13:30.650
Anyone else would like, to, yes, Mr. Cortez.

1077
1:13:36.064 --> 1:13:40.360
Yeah, I guess I am at a loss

1078
1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:42.580
because I was under the impression that we had

1079
1:13:42.580 --> 1:13:45.430
discussed Tuesday that we might still

1080
1:13:45.430 --> 1:13:48.690
have to make some slight edits in November.

1081
1:13:49.720 --> 1:13:51.920
But this way, if we approve it all the changes

1082
1:13:51.920 --> 1:13:55.240
that we made earlier this week we get posted.

1083
1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:56.940
If we don't take final action then

1084
1:13:58.100 --> 1:14:00.500
we can't post the changes because we didn't take

1085
1:14:00.500 --> 1:14:01.570
final action today.

1086
1:14:02.650 --> 1:14:05.996
And so I'm concerned about that and I would agree

1087
1:14:05.996 --> 1:14:10.770
if what Member Perez-Diaz was saying needs to be made

1088
1:14:10.770 --> 1:14:13.805
in the form of motion, then I would entertain that

1089
1:14:13.805 --> 1:14:18.410
because I know last night I did receive a number

1090
1:14:18.410 --> 1:14:22.000
of disturbing calls that there may be a delay on this

1091
1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:25.540
because some of the governor's staff was not in agreement

1092
1:14:25.540 --> 1:14:27.680
with the formula-funded language.

1093
1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:31.630
And if that's why this is being done,

1094
1:14:31.630 --> 1:14:34.970
then I would have a huge concern about that.

1095
1:14:34.970 --> 1:14:37.217
But if that isn't, then I see no reason why we can't

1096
1:14:37.217 --> 1:14:40.607
approve at least this, put it out,

1097
1:14:40.607 --> 1:14:43.500
so that people can comment and if we need to come back

1098
1:14:43.500 --> 1:14:48.500
and make edits or changes then we take that up at the time.

1099
1:14:50.700 --> 1:14:53.920
What we can do, I mean, being advised Mr. Cortez,

1100
1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:56.620
has actually approved the changes that we all

1101
1:14:56.620 --> 1:14:58.530
voted on on Tuesday night.

1102
1:14:58.530 --> 1:15:03.450
Put it out and then have that final vote in November.

1103
1:15:05.470 --> 1:15:06.546
So that possible?

1104
1:15:06.546 --> 1:15:08.599
Yes, oh absolutely.

1105
1:15:08.599 --> 1:15:09.820
You're okay with that?

1106
1:15:09.820 --> 1:15:10.940
Okay well that's the things.

1107
1:15:10.940 --> 1:15:13.320
What we've done, people can go

1108
1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:15.520
and give us feedback.

1109
1:15:15.520 --> 1:15:17.783
So what I did yesterday, just, members, so you know,

1110
1:15:17.783 --> 1:15:21.733
is that I sent all the changes that I thought would,

1111
1:15:21.733 --> 1:15:23.830
that I thought the Steering Committee would want

1112
1:15:23.830 --> 1:15:26.342
to know about as soon as possible because I wasn't sure

1113
1:15:26.342 --> 1:15:30.120
when we could get the actual revised document to them.

1114
1:15:30.120 --> 1:15:33.140
I sent them all the changes we made so that they

1115
1:15:33.140 --> 1:15:36.410
would have that as a heads up and then I'm expecting

1116
1:15:36.410 --> 1:15:38.260
some feedback and we certainly wanna give time

1117
1:15:38.260 --> 1:15:42.030
for that feedback before we actually do the final

1118
1:15:42.030 --> 1:15:42.863
approval in November.

1119
1:15:42.863 --> 1:15:44.830
So it's more about making sure that we've been

1120
1:15:44.830 --> 1:15:46.490
as transparent as possible.

1121
1:15:46.490 --> 1:15:47.970
Yes, Mr. Rowley.

1122
1:15:47.970 --> 1:15:50.833
And so I guess a parliamentary inquiry,

1123
1:15:50.833 --> 1:15:55.340
is we go ahead and approve the recommendation now,

1124
1:15:56.290 --> 1:16:01.290
then the motion to postpone to November

1125
1:16:01.970 --> 1:16:06.330
really would not accomplish what we want to accomplish.

1126
1:16:06.330 --> 1:16:08.069
Is that right, Ms. Crews?

1127
1:16:08.069 --> 1:16:12.260
I'm trying to ensure that I help you get

1128
1:16:12.260 --> 1:16:14.594
where you want to get.

1129
1:16:14.594 --> 1:16:19.520
From what it sounds like, what you'd like to do

1130
1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:22.880
is to approve the changes that were made

1131
1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.129
by the Committee of the Full Board

1132
1:16:25.129 --> 1:16:29.710
so that it can be released further, but not to actually

1133
1:16:29.710 --> 1:16:33.790
adopt the Long Range Plan itself until later.

1134
1:16:33.790 --> 1:16:36.180
So right now you're pending question before you

1135
1:16:36.180 --> 1:16:39.150
is the motion to postpone further consideration.

1136
1:16:39.150 --> 1:16:42.210
That motion would have to either be defeated

1137
1:16:42.210 --> 1:16:45.960
or withdrawn to get to where you want to get.

1138
1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:50.590
Then once that motion is disposed of, you would be back

1139
1:16:50.590 --> 1:16:53.947
to the motion to approve the Long Range Plan.

1140
1:16:53.947 --> 1:16:58.170
And then that motion would need to be amended

1141
1:16:58.170 --> 1:17:01.540
to approve the amendments made by the Committee

1142
1:17:01.540 --> 1:17:05.270
of the Full Board with further consideration.

1143
1:17:05.270 --> 1:17:07.630
And then at that point, once you've adopted

1144
1:17:07.630 --> 1:17:10.920
those amendments then you can postpone

1145
1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:12.670
further consideration to November.

1146
1:17:12.670 --> 1:17:16.070
Yeah, and Madam Chair, I think that the board's

1147
1:17:16.070 --> 1:17:18.560
recommendation, I know the board's recommendation

1148
1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:21.930
is to improve the draft of the Long Range Plan

1149
1:17:21.930 --> 1:17:24.620
for Public Education as amended

1150
1:17:24.620 --> 1:17:25.960
by the Committee of the Full Board.

1151
1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:29.822
So the think the board committee's recommendation

1152
1:17:29.822 --> 1:17:32.240
accomplishes exactly that.

1153
1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:34.650
It is a draft as amended.

1154
1:17:34.650 --> 1:17:37.290
Then it gets posted and we can move forward.

1155
1:17:37.290 --> 1:17:40.910
So postponing it 'til November might not be necessary.

1156
1:17:40.910 --> 1:17:42.809
The challenge is the motion doesn't refer

1157
1:17:42.809 --> 1:17:43.807
to what is, draft?

1158
1:17:43.807 --> 1:17:47.815
Yes it does, it does approve the draft.

1159
1:17:47.815 --> 1:17:50.730
(people chatting)

1160
1:17:50.730 --> 1:17:53.879
The one I'm reading, the recommendation...

1161
1:17:53.879 --> 1:17:56.584
(mic is muffled)

1162
1:17:56.584 --> 1:17:57.654
I must have missed that line.

1163
1:17:57.654 --> 1:17:58.800
Okay.

1164
1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:01.715
Well in the meantime, I withdraw my motion.

1165
1:18:01.715 --> 1:18:02.980
So I think that is a fact of where we wanna be.

1166
1:18:04.072 --> 1:18:05.090
That's what it sounds like.

1167
1:18:05.090 --> 1:18:06.050
Approve the draft.

1168
1:18:06.050 --> 1:18:09.541
Right, but our recommendation is a draft as amended.

1169
1:18:09.541 --> 1:18:10.968
Yeah.

1170
1:18:10.968 --> 1:18:13.440
(speaking over each other)

1171
1:18:13.440 --> 1:18:16.654
Exactly, but that's because the motion that we have

1172
1:18:16.654 --> 1:18:19.300
here doesn't include the draft language.

1173
1:18:19.300 --> 1:18:21.160
So I think she withdrew her amendment

1174
1:18:21.160 --> 1:18:22.492
and so now we're back.

1175
1:18:22.492 --> 1:18:25.283
Mr. Rowley, would you please

1176
1:18:25.283 --> 1:18:26.770
repeat that motion.

1177
1:18:26.770 --> 1:18:28.850
It's recommended that the State Board of Education

1178
1:18:28.850 --> 1:18:31.290
approve the draft of the Long Range Plan

1179
1:18:31.290 --> 1:18:33.940
for Public Education as amended by the Committee

1180
1:18:33.940 --> 1:18:37.091
of the Full Board as set out in Attachment A.

1181
1:18:37.091 --> 1:18:42.091
Okay, and so members, all those in favor, say "aye."

1182
1:18:43.012 --> 1:18:43.940
Aye.

1183
1:18:43.940 --> 1:18:45.970
All those opposed say no.

1184
1:18:45.970 --> 1:18:48.350
And just so it's noted for those listening in,

1185
1:18:48.350 --> 1:18:50.710
we will bring this back for final approval

1186
1:18:50.710 --> 1:18:51.910
at the November meeting.

1187
1:18:52.890 --> 1:18:55.320
All right?
Okay.

1188
1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:58.640
Absolutely, yeah we will get digital copies out.

1189
1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:00.820
So moving forward, then.

1190
1:19:00.820 --> 1:19:03.490
Members if you will look at your Committee of the

1191
1:19:03.490 --> 1:19:06.278
Full Board minutes, or report, actually,

1192
1:19:06.278 --> 1:19:11.278
of September 12, 2018 which is the other set of minutes.

1193
1:19:13.190 --> 1:19:16.960
We're looking at action item two.

1194
1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:18.260
It's board agenda I-5.

1195
1:19:19.170 --> 1:19:22.910
It's proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 113, Texas Essential

1196
1:19:22.910 --> 1:19:25.490
Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies.

1197
1:19:25.490 --> 1:19:29.260
And it's official agenda item number four.

1198
1:19:30.830 --> 1:19:34.290
And it's on page two of your minutes.

1199
1:19:34.290 --> 1:19:35.310
Madam Chair.

1200
1:19:35.310 --> 1:19:36.143
Yes.

1201
1:19:36.143 --> 1:19:38.360
Just, I wanted to let everyone know Shelley is

1202
1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:42.480
distributing an updated copy of the rule text

1203
1:19:42.480 --> 1:19:44.890
that includes all of the amendments that were made

1204
1:19:44.890 --> 1:19:47.520
by the committee on Wednesday.

1205
1:19:48.750 --> 1:19:52.460
And while she's doing that, one of the requests

1206
1:19:52.460 --> 1:19:56.590
that I'd like to make is that we would like

1207
1:19:56.590 --> 1:20:00.679
the opportunity to, after you take your vote,

1208
1:20:00.679 --> 1:20:02.777
but before we file with the Texas Register,

1209
1:20:02.777 --> 1:20:05.960
go through and confirm that we have captured

1210
1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:09.140
all of the names correctly, including the appropriate

1211
1:20:09.140 --> 1:20:13.770
accents and appropriate spellings of names.

1212
1:20:13.770 --> 1:20:16.400
We discovered yesterday that there was another name

1213
1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:19.737
that had an additional R that shouldn't have been there.

1214
1:20:19.737 --> 1:20:22.840
So just to be, we didn't have a chance to do that

1215
1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:26.610
last night, but just to ensure that what you capture

1216
1:20:26.610 --> 1:20:28.585
in the rule is correct.

1217
1:20:28.585 --> 1:20:30.010
We'd like to be able to go through and confirm

1218
1:20:30.010 --> 1:20:31.460
that we've got those correct.

1219
1:20:33.220 --> 1:20:35.510
Okay, I think that is the right thing to do.

1220
1:20:35.510 --> 1:20:38.040
Do we wanna wait for about five minutes here?

1221
1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:39.230
I think we need to do that.

1222
1:20:39.230 --> 1:20:41.120
We wanna make sure we get these names right.

1223
1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.480
Oh, I meant if we could do that before

1224
1:20:43.480 --> 1:20:44.600
we file with the Register.

1225
1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:46.376
If we could do that next week.
Oh I'm sorry.

1226
1:20:46.376 --> 1:20:48.454
I thought you wanted us to confirm, I apologize.

1227
1:20:48.454 --> 1:20:49.600
I got it.

1228
1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:52.190
Staff would like to confirm that we've got,

1229
1:20:52.190 --> 1:20:56.105
in particular the accents on the names correct.

1230
1:20:56.105 --> 1:21:00.350
Like I said, we caught a couple of instances last night,

1231
1:21:00.350 --> 1:21:03.110
but we didn't go through and check every single one

1232
1:21:03.110 --> 1:21:05.430
and so we just would like the opportunity to do that

1233
1:21:05.430 --> 1:21:07.490
if there's no objection, to make sure

1234
1:21:07.490 --> 1:21:08.323
that they're all correct.

1235
1:21:08.323 --> 1:21:09.690
Yes, yes, so move to Thursday.

1236
1:21:09.690 --> 1:21:11.384
So ordered, that'd be great.

1237
1:21:11.384 --> 1:21:13.600
Yes, go ahead and present the motion.

1238
1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:17.237
And this is on the bottom of page two of your

1239
1:21:17.237 --> 1:21:19.760
Wednesday report.

1240
1:21:19.760 --> 1:21:21.790
It's recommended State Board of Education

1241
1:21:21.790 --> 1:21:24.520
approve for second reading and final adoption,

1242
1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:28.510
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 113, Texas Essential

1243
1:21:28.510 --> 1:21:31.580
Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies, Subchapter C,

1244
1:21:31.580 --> 1:21:34.620
High School, Section 113.50.

1245
1:21:34.620 --> 1:21:37.840
Ethnic Studies, Mexican American Studies.

1246
1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:41.210
One credit, as amended with an effective date

1247
1:21:41.210 --> 1:21:43.508
of August 26, 2019.

1248
1:21:43.508 --> 1:21:44.933
July 1st.

1249
1:21:44.933 --> 1:21:46.111
July 1st.
Oh, July 1st?

1250
1:21:46.111 --> 1:21:48.196
If you go forward in the minutes,

1251
1:21:48.196 --> 1:21:50.088
you'll find where that is.

1252
1:21:50.088 --> 1:21:53.610
Oh, okay.

1253
1:21:53.610 --> 1:21:55.610
Members, just so you know, on Fridays

1254
1:21:55.610 --> 1:21:57.900
we don't need seconds on any of the motions

1255
1:21:57.900 --> 1:22:00.310
because it's a recommendation from the committees.

1256
1:22:00.310 --> 1:22:02.244
Just so everybody knows.

1257
1:22:02.244 --> 1:22:05.599
Okay, all those in favor, say "aye."

1258
1:22:05.599 --> 1:22:06.432
Aye.

1259
1:22:06.432 --> 1:22:08.500
All those opposed say no.

1260
1:22:08.500 --> 1:22:09.690
Motion is adopted.

1261
1:22:11.070 --> 1:22:16.070
Okay, the next item then is on page five of your minutes.

1262
1:22:16.390 --> 1:22:20.190
It's board agenda page I-21.

1263
1:22:20.190 --> 1:22:22.760
It's official agenda item number five.

1264
1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:27.900
It's the Social Studies TEKS amendments.

1265
1:22:35.857 --> 1:22:40.211
And I think, well yes, page 15 is going to be

1266
1:22:40.211 --> 1:22:43.350
the final vote, and there you go.

1267
1:22:44.670 --> 1:22:45.720
Yeah, page 15.

1268
1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:48.207
Do we know the minutes?

1269
1:22:48.207 --> 1:22:51.264
15 on the minutes, yes ma'am.

1270
1:22:51.264 --> 1:22:56.264
And Madame Chair, what you have now received is

1271
1:22:56.840 --> 1:23:01.840
copies of the rule text for this Social Studies

1272
1:23:02.140 --> 1:23:04.760
standards that reflects all of the amendments

1273
1:23:04.760 --> 1:23:06.510
that were made on Wednesday.

1274
1:23:06.510 --> 1:23:09.440
I did wanna point out that this is now the official

1275
1:23:09.440 --> 1:23:11.940
rule text and my hope is that will be easier

1276
1:23:11.940 --> 1:23:14.290
to read at this point because there aren't old numbers

1277
1:23:14.290 --> 1:23:16.932
and new numbers, old letters and new letters.

1278
1:23:16.932 --> 1:23:20.440
And I believe the language that reflects the amendments

1279
1:23:20.440 --> 1:23:22.810
is in bold and possibly highlighted.

1280
1:23:26.780 --> 1:23:27.670
Okay, we ready?

1281
1:23:29.370 --> 1:23:31.510
Recommended that the State Board of Education

1282
1:23:31.510 --> 1:23:34.276
approve for first reading and filing authorization

1283
1:23:34.276 --> 1:23:38.840
proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 113.

1284
1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.510
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

1285
1:23:41.510 --> 1:23:42.890
Subchapter A.

1286
1:23:42.890 --> 1:23:44.600
Elementary, Subchapter B.

1287
1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:46.290
Middle school, Subchapter C.

1288
1:23:46.290 --> 1:23:48.530
High school and Subchapter D.

1289
1:23:48.530 --> 1:23:51.610
Other Social Studies courses and proposed repeal

1290
1:23:51.610 --> 1:23:53.800
of 19 TAC Chapter 118.

1291
1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:56.760
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Economics

1292
1:23:56.760 --> 1:23:59.410
with emphasis on the free enterprise system

1293
1:23:59.410 --> 1:24:02.330
and its benefits, Subchapter A, High School,

1294
1:24:02.330 --> 1:24:05.680
and Subchapter B, Other Economics Courses, as amended.

1295
1:24:09.670 --> 1:24:14.060
Members, I just wanna point out something that,

1296
1:24:14.060 --> 1:24:15.450
if you'll look on 49

1297
1:24:16.350 --> 1:24:18.950
of your attachment that they just handed out,

1298
1:24:18.950 --> 1:24:22.320
the big one with all the changes on there on page 49.

1299
1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:24.630
I just wanna point out one thing.

1300
1:24:24.630 --> 1:24:25.463
The big one?

1301
1:24:25.463 --> 1:24:27.150
Yeah, the big, the great big thing

1302
1:24:27.150 --> 1:24:29.320
that Shelley just passed out.

1303
1:24:29.320 --> 1:24:34.320
18C, we wanted an emphasis there on the Dred Scott

1304
1:24:34.330 --> 1:24:37.170
versus Sanford decision there.

1305
1:24:37.170 --> 1:24:40.170
And I want to amend to add back

1306
1:24:40.170 --> 1:24:42.110
on life in the United States.

1307
1:24:42.110 --> 1:24:44.960
The idea was to do an economy of words on that

1308
1:24:44.960 --> 1:24:48.400
particular thing, but I'm afraid if we don't keep

1309
1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:51.500
that in there that there will not be as big

1310
1:24:51.500 --> 1:24:54.944
of an emphasis on really what impact that

1311
1:24:54.944 --> 1:24:59.540
particular decision had on the communities.

1312
1:24:59.540 --> 1:25:01.220
Madame Chair, parliamentary procedure.

1313
1:25:01.220 --> 1:25:04.900
I think you'd have to pass, am I incorrect,

1314
1:25:04.900 --> 1:25:06.330
pass it over to the revise chair

1315
1:25:06.330 --> 1:25:07.630
for you to make an amendment.

1316
1:25:07.630 --> 1:25:09.792
Well that's probably right.

1317
1:25:09.792 --> 1:25:12.042
(laughing)

1318
1:25:13.029 --> 1:25:14.612
The man is smart.

1319
1:25:16.372 --> 1:25:18.900
So you need a second to second, right?

1320
1:25:18.900 --> 1:25:23.059
(all speaking with no mics)

1321
1:25:23.059 --> 1:25:24.759
That does need a second.

1322
1:25:27.143 --> 1:25:27.976
I guess I take it from there.

1323
1:25:27.976 --> 1:25:29.592
You need to have a discussion, right.

1324
1:25:29.592 --> 1:25:31.180
Okay, any other discussion on that amendment?

1325
1:25:31.180 --> 1:25:33.320
Everyone understand where we are?

1326
1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:35.000
Any objections to that amendment.

1327
1:25:36.020 --> 1:25:37.970
Hearing none, can the motion pass as I will

1328
1:25:37.970 --> 1:25:39.150
hand the chair back to--

1329
1:25:39.150 --> 1:25:40.070
Okay, fantastic.

1330
1:25:40.070 --> 1:25:40.960
Yes, you were right.

1331
1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:42.240
That is correct, Mr. Mercer.

1332
1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:44.370
I should have handed it off to Mr. Rowley.

1333
1:25:44.370 --> 1:25:45.360
Madame Chair?

1334
1:25:46.276 --> 1:25:47.290
Yes, Mr. Maynard.

1335
1:25:47.290 --> 1:25:49.610
Yeah, and just to circle back I guess

1336
1:25:49.610 --> 1:25:53.370
with the discussion that we had is that

1337
1:25:53.370 --> 1:25:57.290
that the staff to the extent that you can will go back

1338
1:25:57.290 --> 1:26:00.430
and reexamine and now see with the amendments

1339
1:26:00.430 --> 1:26:01.830
how much instructional time,

1340
1:26:03.630 --> 1:26:06.293
or our best estimate what might be represented

1341
1:26:06.293 --> 1:26:10.020
as they're being proposed for second reading file adoption.

1342
1:26:10.020 --> 1:26:13.280
Yes, sir so as I understand the requests

1343
1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:16.190
that were made on Wednesday, we would go back and reexamine

1344
1:26:16.190 --> 1:26:18.380
the impact on time to the extent

1345
1:26:18.380 --> 1:26:19.510
that we have the information.

1346
1:26:19.510 --> 1:26:22.820
We will also provide an updated list of the number

1347
1:26:22.820 --> 1:26:25.820
of student expectations per grade level

1348
1:26:25.820 --> 1:26:29.630
and course that would result from this draft.

1349
1:26:29.630 --> 1:26:31.960
And I believe the request was to try to provide

1350
1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:35.770
all of that to you in one simple chart.

1351
1:26:35.770 --> 1:26:37.690
And so that's what we're gonna work on.

1352
1:26:41.430 --> 1:26:43.190
Okay, yes.

1353
1:26:44.193 --> 1:26:47.610
(people speaking softly)

1354
1:26:51.130 --> 1:26:52.190
Do you have an amendment because we're gonna move on.

1355
1:26:52.190 --> 1:26:55.017
No, I have a question on that, on the chart that

1356
1:26:55.017 --> 1:26:58.810
Monica was talking about providing for us,

1357
1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:04.040
and the number of TEKS and all that sort of stuff,

1358
1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:08.540
it won't reflect the fact that we reduced a TEK, will it?

1359
1:27:08.540 --> 1:27:10.070
In other words, you'll still have the numbers,

1360
1:27:10.070 --> 1:27:12.850
but some of the TEKS, we made a big reduction

1361
1:27:12.850 --> 1:27:15.030
in lists of names, but that won't be able

1362
1:27:15.030 --> 1:27:16.312
to be shown, will it?

1363
1:27:16.312 --> 1:27:19.480
So that's a really good point and I do think

1364
1:27:19.480 --> 1:27:21.550
it's important that we continue to remember

1365
1:27:21.550 --> 1:27:24.210
that that reduction in scope doesn't necessarily

1366
1:27:24.210 --> 1:27:27.643
just mean fewer student expectations.

1367
1:27:27.643 --> 1:27:30.630
There were some entire student expectations

1368
1:27:30.630 --> 1:27:32.540
that were removed and so I think you will see

1369
1:27:32.540 --> 1:27:35.132
some affect of that.

1370
1:27:35.132 --> 1:27:38.010
I think that perhaps is the reason that there was

1371
1:27:38.010 --> 1:27:40.287
the request for the amount of time.

1372
1:27:40.287 --> 1:27:45.197
If we can find any other way to communicate

1373
1:27:45.197 --> 1:27:48.575
the reduction in scope, we may be able to,

1374
1:27:48.575 --> 1:27:52.090
just at the top of my head and hopefully staff

1375
1:27:52.090 --> 1:27:53.980
doesn't start throwing things at me,

1376
1:27:53.980 --> 1:27:57.260
we may be able to identify the number of historical

1377
1:27:57.260 --> 1:28:00.600
figures that are now fewer that would get

1378
1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:02.970
to your point of some of those lists.

1379
1:28:02.970 --> 1:28:05.310
So if there's a way that we can identify

1380
1:28:05.310 --> 1:28:09.020
to objectively communicate that, we will work

1381
1:28:09.020 --> 1:28:11.840
on that type of information for you.

1382
1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:14.130
Okay, I think it's sometimes a misnomer on the part

1383
1:28:14.130 --> 1:28:17.540
of the board members, when you reduce the numbers

1384
1:28:17.540 --> 1:28:20.270
or the numbers are greater or whatever, it just depends

1385
1:28:20.270 --> 1:28:21.470
on how that's broken out.

1386
1:28:21.470 --> 1:28:23.450
So that'd be good, if you could.

1387
1:28:23.450 --> 1:28:26.352
It's not that big a deal, we can figure it out, too.

1388
1:28:26.352 --> 1:28:29.118
Ms. Cargill, did you have a comment?

1389
1:28:29.118 --> 1:28:31.149
(speaking with no mic)

1390
1:28:31.149 --> 1:28:32.543
Okay, Mr. Mercer.

1391
1:28:32.543 --> 1:28:33.420
Well actually, I better ask mine.

1392
1:28:33.420 --> 1:28:36.600
Think of it, oh when will we hear from our testifiers?

1393
1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:37.433
It'll be--

1394
1:28:37.433 --> 1:28:38.266
After this?

1395
1:28:38.266 --> 1:28:40.020
Yeah, before the training on the ethics.

1396
1:28:40.020 --> 1:28:41.520
We have ethics training, yeah.

1397
1:28:43.464 --> 1:28:44.890
Yes, Mercer.

1398
1:28:44.890 --> 1:28:47.540
Madame Chair, I just had one change on page 65

1399
1:28:47.540 --> 1:28:50.050
of the handout the staff provided us.

1400
1:28:50.050 --> 1:28:52.540
It's on US History, High School, Section 21.

1401
1:28:52.540 --> 1:28:55.098
We promised to come back and look at that.

1402
1:28:55.098 --> 1:28:57.002
In fact, just one rule.

1403
1:28:57.002 --> 1:29:02.002
Page 65 in your handout, Subchapter C, high shool, 21A.

1404
1:29:04.362 --> 1:29:06.720
We promised to come back on that and all we're

1405
1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:09.340
gonna change is take the word "such as", to "including".

1406
1:29:09.340 --> 1:29:12.315
There are many values crucial to Americans, I'm sorry.

1407
1:29:12.315 --> 1:29:15.148
Giving rationale, I didn't get a second yet.

1408
1:29:15.148 --> 1:29:17.250
(speaking with no mic)

1409
1:29:17.250 --> 1:29:18.750
I apologize.

1410
1:29:18.750 --> 1:29:21.560
On my second now, my rationale is just that we

1411
1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:22.770
promised to come to that.

1412
1:29:22.770 --> 1:29:25.070
We agreed there may be more than five values,

1413
1:29:25.070 --> 1:29:28.850
may or may not be attributed to Mr. Alexis.

1414
1:29:29.978 --> 1:29:30.850
(speaking with low mic)

1415
1:29:30.850 --> 1:29:32.660
Very good, that was a good prompt.

1416
1:29:32.660 --> 1:29:34.160
DeToqueville, I don't know why I have a hard

1417
1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:36.750
time saying that, but if we just make sure

1418
1:29:36.750 --> 1:29:38.210
that they help the educators out.

1419
1:29:38.210 --> 1:29:39.640
If we don't leave them a list,

1420
1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:41.010
if at least we list, here are the five,

1421
1:29:41.010 --> 1:29:43.320
to include at least these five, they can do more.

1422
1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:45.691
So the only amendment would be to strike "such as"

1423
1:29:45.691 --> 1:29:47.900
and replace that with "including".

1424
1:29:48.888 --> 1:29:52.971
(speaking with low mic)

1425
1:29:52.971 --> 1:29:54.740
21A, page 65.

1426
1:30:00.260 --> 1:30:01.990
Yes, Mr. Cortez.

1427
1:30:01.990 --> 1:30:04.080
So doesn't that kind of

1428
1:30:05.450 --> 1:30:07.820
change the purpose of what we're trying to do

1429
1:30:07.820 --> 1:30:09.990
in terms of streamlining?

1430
1:30:09.990 --> 1:30:12.710
From a "such as" to an "including", it's required now.

1431
1:30:12.710 --> 1:30:13.560
Am I not correct?

1432
1:30:15.295 --> 1:30:17.696
You are correct.

1433
1:30:17.696 --> 1:30:18.650
It is, right?

1434
1:30:20.140 --> 1:30:22.391
From a "such as" to "including", that changes--

1435
1:30:22.391 --> 1:30:23.396
Absolutely.

1436
1:30:23.396 --> 1:30:24.771
So I wouldn't...

1437
1:30:24.771 --> 1:30:26.588
I wouldn't speak in favor
You would not be in support.

1438
1:30:26.588 --> 1:30:28.985
Of it because that goes against what we've

1439
1:30:28.985 --> 1:30:30.910
been talking about all week.

1440
1:30:33.610 --> 1:30:34.443
Ms. Hardy.

1441
1:30:36.500 --> 1:30:39.700
I actually would think it's better to put "including"

1442
1:30:39.700 --> 1:30:41.430
because what we did talk about it,

1443
1:30:41.430 --> 1:30:43.869
and this is in a tested area,

1444
1:30:43.869 --> 1:30:47.580
if it's tested, you want to say "including"

1445
1:30:47.580 --> 1:30:52.150
so that the teacher will know specifically what to do.

1446
1:30:52.150 --> 1:30:56.650
If you say "such as", it could be any number of things

1447
1:30:56.650 --> 1:30:59.008
beyond these things that are listed.

1448
1:30:59.008 --> 1:31:02.230
And this is what I really am gonna go back and look

1449
1:31:02.230 --> 1:31:04.070
at the whole thing to make sure we've done this

1450
1:31:04.070 --> 1:31:07.540
because it needs to be narrowed for the sake

1451
1:31:07.540 --> 1:31:10.900
of the student and the teacher in that 11th grade course.

1452
1:31:10.900 --> 1:31:14.540
So I would be very much in favor of Mr. Mercer's motion.

1453
1:31:15.630 --> 1:31:16.680
Any other comments?

1454
1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:19.907
All those in favor, say "aye", oh I'm sorry.

1455
1:31:19.907 --> 1:31:21.100
Ms. Perez.

1456
1:31:21.100 --> 1:31:23.795
Please, Monica, if you could provide some clarification

1457
1:31:23.795 --> 1:31:27.720
because I'm hearing from Member Cortez

1458
1:31:27.720 --> 1:31:31.920
a very different thought than from Member Hardy.

1459
1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:35.103
And so to help me decide how to vote,

1460
1:31:35.103 --> 1:31:39.460
"such as" and "including" and how it affects testing, please.

1461
1:31:40.620 --> 1:31:45.337
So first let me say, Mr. Cortez is correct

1462
1:31:45.337 --> 1:31:47.770
when we're talking about instruction.

1463
1:31:47.770 --> 1:31:50.340
""including"" indicates that it's required to be taught.

1464
1:31:50.340 --> 1:31:53.813
""such as"" indicates that they are illustrative examples.

1465
1:31:53.813 --> 1:31:58.813
When we're talking about the state assessment program,

1466
1:31:59.189 --> 1:32:00.980
that's going to,

1467
1:32:01.920 --> 1:32:04.761
it's not going to be quite as direct and clear cut

1468
1:32:04.761 --> 1:32:07.950
depending on the particular standard.

1469
1:32:07.950 --> 1:32:10.810
So if there is enough information in the student

1470
1:32:10.810 --> 1:32:14.940
expectation to identify what needs to be assessed

1471
1:32:14.940 --> 1:32:18.390
and for us to be able to generate assessment questions

1472
1:32:18.390 --> 1:32:22.510
without information that is related to "such as" or "including",

1473
1:32:22.510 --> 1:32:23.620
that's the ideal.

1474
1:32:25.570 --> 1:32:29.160
There could be instances, if the student expectation

1475
1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:33.430
is not specific enough without the "such as" information,

1476
1:32:33.430 --> 1:32:36.630
then that information could guide the way

1477
1:32:36.630 --> 1:32:38.030
those questions are written.

1478
1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:43.671
Madame Chair, may I propose to close it up then?

1479
1:32:43.671 --> 1:32:46.340
Is the make of the motion, again we discussed this

1480
1:32:46.340 --> 1:32:48.170
as one of the one, I think at the only time we actually

1481
1:32:48.170 --> 1:32:50.810
test Social Studies was one thought.

1482
1:32:50.810 --> 1:32:53.260
We discussed leaving it blank, but then again

1483
1:32:53.260 --> 1:32:55.070
how many values are out there?

1484
1:32:55.070 --> 1:32:57.340
It was similar when we discussed in World War Two History,

1485
1:32:57.340 --> 1:32:59.150
we list, at least cover these things.

1486
1:32:59.150 --> 1:33:01.300
We're just saying, if it's gonna be testable,

1487
1:33:01.300 --> 1:33:03.850
if we don't say it can be everything,

1488
1:33:03.850 --> 1:33:05.970
we're implying that these five things will be testable.

1489
1:33:05.970 --> 1:33:09.550
They can teach more, but otherwise I think if we just,

1490
1:33:09.550 --> 1:33:12.480
they could be, and there are a lot of values out there.

1491
1:33:12.480 --> 1:33:15.080
And we're just saying include these five values.

1492
1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:16.930
There was a discussion we had here on Wednesday

1493
1:33:16.930 --> 1:33:19.300
and we promised to come back and address that.

1494
1:33:19.300 --> 1:33:20.950
And it's simple change, we just make it

1495
1:33:20.950 --> 1:33:22.720
"including" instead of "such as".

1496
1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:23.553
Thank you.

1497
1:33:24.620 --> 1:33:27.491
Madame Chair, my final thought is that we spoke

1498
1:33:27.491 --> 1:33:30.400
time and again Tuesday about sticking to the rule

1499
1:33:30.400 --> 1:33:32.830
that we've set, the standard that we'd set

1500
1:33:32.830 --> 1:33:35.799
for out committees so I would implore us to follow

1501
1:33:35.799 --> 1:33:37.790
our own rules.

1502
1:33:39.870 --> 1:33:41.490
Okay, any other discussion.

1503
1:33:41.490 --> 1:33:42.323
All those in f--

1504
1:33:44.430 --> 1:33:46.215
All those opposed say no.

1505
1:33:46.215 --> 1:33:48.087
No.

1506
1:33:48.087 --> 1:33:49.100
I believe the I's had that.

1507
1:33:49.100 --> 1:33:49.933
Should we--

1508
1:33:49.933 --> 1:33:50.950
Do a hand count.

1509
1:33:50.950 --> 1:33:53.406
Do a hand, we'll just do a hand.

1510
1:33:53.406 --> 1:33:57.560
We're voting to (speaking with low mic).

1511
1:33:57.560 --> 1:33:58.550
Let me, just wanna.

1512
1:33:58.550 --> 1:34:00.748
If we just make a decision to take a vote on it,

1513
1:34:00.748 --> 1:34:03.790
I just wanna get some clarity because we would've had

1514
1:34:03.790 --> 1:34:04.623
a lot more discussion--
Mr. Allen, go ahead.

1515
1:34:04.623 --> 1:34:08.360
About things, had we been operating on the concept

1516
1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:11.770
that "including" was not what we were supposed to do.

1517
1:34:11.770 --> 1:34:14.740
So we were kind of given a general instruction

1518
1:34:14.740 --> 1:34:16.530
that if we wanted to include something

1519
1:34:16.530 --> 1:34:18.290
we would not streamline.

1520
1:34:18.290 --> 1:34:20.656
So a lot of dialogue and conversation was left out

1521
1:34:20.656 --> 1:34:24.530
based on that and now we just go forward.

1522
1:34:24.530 --> 1:34:26.940
So that was my understanding of how I should

1523
1:34:26.940 --> 1:34:30.250
proceed as a member by just, if I wanted to ask

1524
1:34:30.250 --> 1:34:32.120
it was "such as", but if I did "including",

1525
1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:33.450
it would not be accepted.

1526
1:34:33.450 --> 1:34:35.690
That was the general theme around the table,

1527
1:34:35.690 --> 1:34:37.510
if I remember correctly.

1528
1:34:37.510 --> 1:34:40.030
So it framed my thinking and my actions.

1529
1:34:45.270 --> 1:34:46.103
Ms. Hardy.

1530
1:34:47.650 --> 1:34:49.784
That's not how I understood that.

1531
1:34:49.784 --> 1:34:52.217
In this particular thing, that was an

1532
1:34:52.217 --> 1:34:55.360
"including" prior to this.

1533
1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:57.940
The teacher groups said, we'd like to,

1534
1:34:57.940 --> 1:34:59.630
well no they didn't say that.

1535
1:34:59.630 --> 1:35:03.530
It was confusing because it was attributing

1536
1:35:03.530 --> 1:35:07.380
those things, specifically to DeToqueville

1537
1:35:07.380 --> 1:35:12.220
to still have those expectations, we could say,

1538
1:35:12.220 --> 1:35:16.120
just say the beliefs of the talk DeToqueville

1539
1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:18.050
and then they wouldn't have a clue where they

1540
1:35:18.050 --> 1:35:18.920
were supposed to go.

1541
1:35:18.920 --> 1:35:22.617
This was a narrowing of the whole thing.

1542
1:35:22.617 --> 1:35:25.120
You have to understand it's different

1543
1:35:25.120 --> 1:35:27.157
for eighth grade and 11th grade.

1544
1:35:27.157 --> 1:35:30.010
Eight grade and 11th grade are tested.

1545
1:35:30.010 --> 1:35:34.260
The teachers, I can promise you, across the board

1546
1:35:34.260 --> 1:35:37.130
want a narrowing even if it means "including"

1547
1:35:37.130 --> 1:35:38.890
and they have to teach it.

1548
1:35:38.890 --> 1:35:42.073
They want that because it helps them understand

1549
1:35:42.073 --> 1:35:45.040
specifically where the testing is going to go.

1550
1:35:45.920 --> 1:35:48.940
Testing is teaching your TEKS.

1551
1:35:48.940 --> 1:35:52.840
And to have it broad leaves it kind of broad

1552
1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:55.710
for the test maker and therefore the teacher

1553
1:35:55.710 --> 1:35:58.030
doesn't know exactly what will come out on the,

1554
1:35:58.030 --> 1:35:59.738
what their expectations are.

1555
1:35:59.738 --> 1:36:01.078
So--

1556
1:36:01.078 --> 1:36:02.500
(speaking low with no mic)

1557
1:36:02.500 --> 1:36:04.478
Okay, I just wanna say one thing.

1558
1:36:04.478 --> 1:36:07.336
It was "including" before, Mr. Allen.

1559
1:36:07.336 --> 1:36:10.862
Right, and so the committee changed it to "such as"

1560
1:36:10.862 --> 1:36:14.710
and so the recommendation before, sorry.

1561
1:36:14.710 --> 1:36:17.880
The recommendation before us is to not

1562
1:36:17.880 --> 1:36:20.072
accept that particular change.

1563
1:36:20.072 --> 1:36:21.530
(speaking with no mic)

1564
1:36:21.530 --> 1:36:23.500
Yeah, it was before it was "including".

1565
1:36:23.500 --> 1:36:25.074
Am I saying that right?

1566
1:36:25.074 --> 1:36:26.060
I wanna make sure.
Yes.

1567
1:36:26.060 --> 1:36:27.040
I'm pretty sure it was, yes.

1568
1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:29.639
It didn't have the word "including",

1569
1:36:29.639 --> 1:36:34.240
but it did reference those specific five things

1570
1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:35.700
so it has the same effect

1571
1:36:36.616 --> 1:36:37.510
as if it were "including".
Has the same effect

1572
1:36:37.510 --> 1:36:38.370
as "including", right.

1573
1:36:38.370 --> 1:36:39.950
But it didn't actually have that word in there before.

1574
1:36:39.950 --> 1:36:42.010
Yeah, I don't actually don't even think

1575
1:36:42.010 --> 1:36:45.070
the word "including" in there, if you just restored it back.

1576
1:36:45.070 --> 1:36:46.812
Just list, yes, Mr. Cortez.

1577
1:36:46.812 --> 1:36:49.260
One last thing, I just wanna remind the body

1578
1:36:49.260 --> 1:36:53.530
what the work group said about this.

1579
1:36:53.530 --> 1:36:56.500
And when they were asked to reconsider the deletion,

1580
1:36:56.500 --> 1:37:00.130
they came back and said, describe how America values

1581
1:37:00.130 --> 1:37:02.810
are different and unique from those of other nations.

1582
1:37:02.810 --> 1:37:05.562
And work group reconsidered and still recommends

1583
1:37:05.562 --> 1:37:10.562
the deletion, as is too vague, immigration is covered--

1584
1:37:10.630 --> 1:37:11.994
Hold on just a minute, Mr. Cortez.

1585
1:37:11.994 --> 1:37:13.730
Make sure, I think we're on the wrong thing.

1586
1:37:13.730 --> 1:37:14.590
Am I not on the wrong one?

1587
1:37:14.590 --> 1:37:15.660
That's not the right one.

1588
1:37:15.660 --> 1:37:17.590
That's not the right one.

1589
1:37:17.590 --> 1:37:18.423
Yeah.

1590
1:37:18.423 --> 1:37:19.402
Oh, it's a page forward.

1591
1:37:19.402 --> 1:37:20.407
Yeah.

1592
1:37:20.407 --> 1:37:21.690
Okay, sorry.

1593
1:37:21.690 --> 1:37:24.650
So they have a comment, they're reconsidered deletion.

1594
1:37:24.650 --> 1:37:27.247
It says work group reconsidered and recommends

1595
1:37:27.247 --> 1:37:32.247
that this SE be restored but clarify these five

1596
1:37:32.670 --> 1:37:36.640
values are key concepts throughout the world course

1597
1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:38.630
and essential to US History.

1598
1:37:38.630 --> 1:37:42.015
Work group recommends editing to clarify.

1599
1:37:42.015 --> 1:37:45.280
And I think we had that conversation because that

1600
1:37:45.280 --> 1:37:48.860
gentleman wasn't the one who was responsible

1601
1:37:48.860 --> 1:37:51.870
for those five and that was testified to.

1602
1:37:51.870 --> 1:37:55.740
And then they go on to say full agreement on edit to

1603
1:37:56.650 --> 1:38:00.450
KS statement, but multiple viewpoints on edit

1604
1:38:00.450 --> 1:38:02.830
to SE 22A and 22B.

1605
1:38:04.601 --> 1:38:06.400
And they go on to talk about other things,

1606
1:38:06.400 --> 1:38:10.040
but you know, they wanted this clarified.

1607
1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:12.647
And so if we go unclarify it, then we're including it

1608
1:38:12.647 --> 1:38:15.317
and saying something different from what

1609
1:38:15.317 --> 1:38:18.540
our teachers are asking of us.

1610
1:38:22.340 --> 1:38:23.340
Mr. Rowley.

1611
1:38:23.340 --> 1:38:28.294
The clarification was to leave those concepts in there.

1612
1:38:28.294 --> 1:38:29.590
The concepts.

1613
1:38:29.590 --> 1:38:30.423
Yeah, the concepts.

1614
1:38:30.423 --> 1:38:31.580
You're talking about it,

1615
1:38:31.580 --> 1:38:33.490
before it didn't have "including",

1616
1:38:33.490 --> 1:38:35.600
but it didn't have "such as", either.

1617
1:38:35.600 --> 1:38:37.130
That's what I'm understanding.

1618
1:38:37.130 --> 1:38:42.130
And so now it is, the clarification was to take,

1619
1:38:42.400 --> 1:38:44.720
and I'm gonna butcher the guy's name too,

1620
1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:46.670
Alexis DeToqueville.

1621
1:38:46.670 --> 1:38:51.190
It's gonna take that out because it was questioned

1622
1:38:51.190 --> 1:38:53.690
as to whether or not those were actually his,

1623
1:38:53.690 --> 1:38:55.170
attributable to him.

1624
1:38:55.170 --> 1:38:57.330
Yeah, so the clarification didn't have to do with

1625
1:38:57.330 --> 1:38:58.490
including the concepts.

1626
1:38:58.490 --> 1:39:00.140
It had to do with taking him out.

1627
1:39:04.170 --> 1:39:07.310
Any other folks wanna speak for the first time?

1628
1:39:07.310 --> 1:39:08.780
Ms. Perez-Diaz.

1629
1:39:08.780 --> 1:39:10.420
Sorry, Ms. Cargill, go ahead.

1630
1:39:10.420 --> 1:39:11.820
(speaking with no mic)

1631
1:39:11.820 --> 1:39:12.990
Yes, she's--

1632
1:39:12.990 --> 1:39:13.940
Yeah and I think,

1633
1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:16.880
you know, if when you look,

1634
1:39:16.880 --> 1:39:19.380
first of all what the effect of an "including"

1635
1:39:19.380 --> 1:39:22.060
or a "such as" depends on the language of the standard.

1636
1:39:22.060 --> 1:39:24.870
So sometimes, yes an "including", if you list

1637
1:39:24.870 --> 1:39:28.490
a lot of stuff then it broadens the teaching,

1638
1:39:28.490 --> 1:39:29.820
the amount of time.

1639
1:39:29.820 --> 1:39:32.220
But in this case, because there are other values

1640
1:39:32.220 --> 1:39:34.595
more than the five according to our testifier,

1641
1:39:34.595 --> 1:39:37.980
in this case, we're just saying focus on these five.

1642
1:39:37.980 --> 1:39:41.315
So it's a narrowing and a streamlining of the time.

1643
1:39:41.315 --> 1:39:43.381
I don't expect everybody to understand it

1644
1:39:43.381 --> 1:39:45.570
because it's hard to understand that,

1645
1:39:45.570 --> 1:39:49.880
but if you taught in the classroom then you get it.

1646
1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:51.760
So this actually is just saying don't worry

1647
1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:54.400
about any other values, unless you want to.

1648
1:39:54.400 --> 1:39:55.940
You're welcome to teach the other values,

1649
1:39:55.940 --> 1:39:59.272
but testable focus on these five.

1650
1:39:59.272 --> 1:40:01.003
So you're narrowing.

1651
1:40:01.003 --> 1:40:02.720
Ms. Perez-Diaz.

1652
1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:04.900
Yes ma'am, so if I'm understanding correctly,

1653
1:40:04.900 --> 1:40:06.426
we're not even talking about the values.

1654
1:40:06.426 --> 1:40:07.580
That's not the point.

1655
1:40:07.580 --> 1:40:09.890
We're talking about the reinstatement

1656
1:40:09.890 --> 1:40:11.640
of the name of the individual.

1657
1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:12.473
No.

1658
1:40:12.473 --> 1:40:13.306
No? Okay.

1659
1:40:13.306 --> 1:40:14.346
"such as",

1660
1:40:14.346 --> 1:40:17.128
we're striking "such as".

1661
1:40:17.128 --> 1:40:19.080
But attributing the values to him.

1662
1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:21.620
Right, attributing the values to him.

1663
1:40:21.620 --> 1:40:24.519
So if I can,

1664
1:40:24.519 --> 1:40:28.360
if staff can refresh my memory, I remember

1665
1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:31.000
from conversation and please correct me if I'm wrong,

1666
1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:33.065
but when this came up we were told that that

1667
1:40:33.065 --> 1:40:36.380
is factually inaccurate.

1668
1:40:36.380 --> 1:40:38.490
Can somebody tell me, maybe Shelley,

1669
1:40:38.490 --> 1:40:39.730
can you speak to that.

1670
1:40:39.730 --> 1:40:42.010
But while Shelley's walking up I do wanna clarify,

1671
1:40:42.010 --> 1:40:44.620
my understanding of the amendment of 21A

1672
1:40:44.620 --> 1:40:46.883
is that the name would remain stricken

1673
1:40:46.883 --> 1:40:49.239
and that the student expectation would say

1674
1:40:49.239 --> 1:40:52.650
"discuss values crucial to America's success

1675
1:40:52.650 --> 1:40:54.700
"as a constitutional republic."

1676
1:40:54.700 --> 1:40:56.840
Right now it says "such as", I believe, the amendment

1677
1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:59.720
is simply to replace "such as" with "including".

1678
1:40:59.720 --> 1:41:01.490
That does not reinstate the name.

1679
1:41:04.812 --> 1:41:06.370
Any other discussion?

1680
1:41:06.370 --> 1:41:07.940
All those in favor, say "aye."

1681
1:41:07.940 --> 1:41:09.060
Aye.

1682
1:41:09.060 --> 1:41:10.910
All those opposed, say no.

1683
1:41:10.910 --> 1:41:12.670
Okay motion (audio cut out)

1684
1:41:12.670 --> 1:41:14.160
All right.

1685
1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:14.993
Madame Chair?

1686
1:41:14.993 --> 1:41:17.090
Yes, Ms. Melton-Malone.

1687
1:41:18.170 --> 1:41:19.620
Thank you, Madame Chair.

1688
1:41:19.620 --> 1:41:22.930
Back on page five, pardon me.

1689
1:41:24.540 --> 1:41:29.290
On 2A, this is first grade

1690
1:41:29.290 --> 1:41:31.690
and we talked about, I mean, yeah.

1691
1:41:31.690 --> 1:41:34.070
In first grade and we talked about this the other day

1692
1:41:34.070 --> 1:41:36.970
and we deleted state

1693
1:41:37.920 --> 1:41:40.910
and we took out Sam Houston.

1694
1:41:42.070 --> 1:41:45.375
I personally think that our kids need to be

1695
1:41:45.375 --> 1:41:48.537
at least exposed to who this was

1696
1:41:48.537 --> 1:41:52.230
before they get to fourth grade.

1697
1:41:52.230 --> 1:41:54.460
And I can promise you it's not gonna take

1698
1:41:54.460 --> 1:41:58.080
five to 10 minutes just to introduce him,

1699
1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:01.800
tell what he did, that he was the first and third

1700
1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:06.050
President of Texas, he was the seventh governor of Texas.

1701
1:42:06.050 --> 1:42:10.140
He was a US senator, he was a member of the Texas House.

1702
1:42:10.140 --> 1:42:12.670
And I feel like our kids need to know this

1703
1:42:12.670 --> 1:42:14.770
before they get to fourth grade.

1704
1:42:14.770 --> 1:42:16.870
If they don't, when they start introducing him

1705
1:42:16.870 --> 1:42:19.160
in fourth grade, they're gonna look at the teacher

1706
1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:20.880
and say who's that?

1707
1:42:20.880 --> 1:42:23.050
And Sam Houston was a very vital part

1708
1:42:23.050 --> 1:42:26.520
of Texas History so I would like to reinsert

1709
1:42:26.520 --> 1:42:29.880
Sam Houston and the word state.

1710
1:42:36.082 --> 1:42:38.100
It's on page five, page five.

1711
1:42:39.780 --> 1:42:44.420
And this particular standard was narrowed

1712
1:42:45.290 --> 1:42:47.700
to exclude community here.

1713
1:42:47.700 --> 1:42:50.450
And to just talk, concentrate for first graders

1714
1:42:50.450 --> 1:42:54.710
on state and nation in this knowledge statement.

1715
1:42:54.710 --> 1:42:58.170
And so this would be restoring a state figure

1716
1:42:58.170 --> 1:43:02.340
to this particular knowledge and skill

1717
1:43:02.340 --> 1:43:05.730
because right now it will just say the student understand,

1718
1:43:05.730 --> 1:43:07.380
there won't be any--

1719
1:43:07.380 --> 1:43:08.250
12A.

1720
1:43:08.250 --> 1:43:10.910
Yeah, for A, identify the contributions.

1721
1:43:10.910 --> 1:43:14.640
So I think we have no other state figures named.

1722
1:43:14.640 --> 1:43:16.500
Right, other than that.

1723
1:43:16.500 --> 1:43:17.600
Now, are we correct.

1724
1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:20.011
Correct, we did strike state out of that one,

1725
1:43:20.011 --> 1:43:22.640
but I would like to put it back in

1726
1:43:22.640 --> 1:43:26.298
and put Sam Houston back in.

1727
1:43:26.298 --> 1:43:28.040
It is on 2A.

1728
1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:30.510
On A, it's stricken.

1729
1:43:30.510 --> 1:43:32.390
But we had no examples.

1730
1:43:32.390 --> 1:43:35.530
And now if we insert, we need to put state back in.

1731
1:43:35.530 --> 1:43:37.820
And I'm very cognizant of the teacher's time.

1732
1:43:37.820 --> 1:43:40.580
Goodness knows, having taught for 36 years,

1733
1:43:40.580 --> 1:43:43.850
I know what it is to try to get through all of these,

1734
1:43:43.850 --> 1:43:46.410
but I can promise you that in first grade,

1735
1:43:46.410 --> 1:43:49.600
it probably will take five to 10 minutes tops,

1736
1:43:49.600 --> 1:43:52.490
just to introduce Sam Houston and tell a couple

1737
1:43:52.490 --> 1:43:54.650
or three things that he did, just to make our kids

1738
1:43:54.650 --> 1:43:59.650
aware that we had someone special in our state.

1739
1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:03.230
So we're not gonna be adding an enormous amount of time

1740
1:44:03.230 --> 1:44:05.192
that these teachers are gonna be spending on this.

1741
1:44:05.192 --> 1:44:07.432
Yes, Mr. Mercer.

1742
1:44:07.432 --> 1:44:09.710
Madame Chair, I would just rise and speak in favor

1743
1:44:09.710 --> 1:44:12.357
of the motion, I will just say what I've taken.

1744
1:44:12.357 --> 1:44:14.370
I've been blessed to have many, my love of History

1745
1:44:14.370 --> 1:44:16.180
to take kids to DC.

1746
1:44:16.180 --> 1:44:19.790
Every state has a national figure in the hall way

1747
1:44:19.790 --> 1:44:22.260
of the rotunda and the figure we have

1748
1:44:22.260 --> 1:44:23.960
is a statue of Sam Houston.

1749
1:44:25.558 --> 1:44:28.808
(speaking with no mic)

1750
1:44:32.860 --> 1:44:34.460
Any other questions about that?

1751
1:44:34.460 --> 1:44:37.620
All those in favor of adding Sam Houston back in

1752
1:44:37.620 --> 1:44:39.730
and the word state to,

1753
1:44:41.120 --> 1:44:45.250
yeah fourth and seventh, but that's Texas History.

1754
1:44:45.250 --> 1:44:46.083
Right?

1755
1:44:46.083 --> 1:44:48.160
And so he's first introduced is what she's

1756
1:44:48.160 --> 1:44:49.230
suggesting for first.

1757
1:44:50.470 --> 1:44:52.970
All those in favor, say, I'm sorry, Ms. Perez.

1758
1:44:52.970 --> 1:44:53.803
Did you have a question?

1759
1:44:53.803 --> 1:44:55.342
Yes, ma'am.

1760
1:44:55.342 --> 1:44:58.590
In the effort of streamlining, I would like

1761
1:44:58.590 --> 1:45:00.890
to bring everyone's attention to the fact

1762
1:45:00.890 --> 1:45:05.520
that we have 51 social study standards in first grade.

1763
1:45:05.520 --> 1:45:09.080
Adding more is quite contradictory to our

1764
1:45:09.080 --> 1:45:10.460
efforts to streamline.

1765
1:45:13.390 --> 1:45:15.300
Okay, any other discussion?

1766
1:45:15.300 --> 1:45:17.250
All those in favor, say "aye."

1767
1:45:17.250 --> 1:45:18.083
Aye.

1768
1:45:18.083 --> 1:45:18.916
All those opposed say no.

1769
1:45:18.916 --> 1:45:19.796
No.

1770
1:45:19.796 --> 1:45:22.390
Okay, so motion is carried.

1771
1:45:22.390 --> 1:45:25.050
All right, any other amendments?

1772
1:45:25.050 --> 1:45:26.095
Ms. Hardy.

1773
1:45:26.095 --> 1:45:28.090
(speaking with no mic)

1774
1:45:28.090 --> 1:45:28.923
Okay, sorry.

1775
1:45:28.923 --> 1:45:31.103
Going to go back and visit this 19,

1776
1:45:31.103 --> 1:45:34.332
19E in eighth grade and see what staff

1777
1:45:34.332 --> 1:45:36.714
was supposed to bring it back to us and see what--

1778
1:45:36.714 --> 1:45:37.719
What page?

1779
1:45:37.719 --> 1:45:41.807
It's on page 50.

1780
1:45:41.807 --> 1:45:43.999
50 in eighth grade.

1781
1:45:43.999 --> 1:45:45.520
(speaking with no mics)

1782
1:45:45.520 --> 1:45:47.880
In page 50--

1783
1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:48.850
Okay, hold on, Ms. Hardy.

1784
1:45:48.850 --> 1:45:51.280
This is just about the eighth grade,

1785
1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:54.720
we weren't sure if the instruction materials.

1786
1:45:54.720 --> 1:45:56.840
I don't think they're gonna know that yet, Ms. Hardy.

1787
1:45:56.840 --> 1:45:58.719
We have to wait to second reading because we don't know

1788
1:45:58.719 --> 1:46:00.360
if the instructional material,

1789
1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:02.650
she's doing a lot of checking on instructional material.

1790
1:46:02.650 --> 1:46:04.980
Okay, I just didn't want us to forget that one.

1791
1:46:04.980 --> 1:46:05.960
Yeah, they're not ready.

1792
1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:06.793
Okay.

1793
1:46:06.793 --> 1:46:08.104
They're not ready.

1794
1:46:08.104 --> 1:46:09.800
Any other changes?

1795
1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:14.800
Okay, so the motion before us was to,

1796
1:46:16.335 --> 1:46:18.762
yeah why don't, Mr. Rowley could please read the motion?

1797
1:46:18.762 --> 1:46:22.910
Right, it's on page 15 of your Wednesday report.

1798
1:46:26.490 --> 1:46:27.670
There we go.

1799
1:46:27.670 --> 1:46:29.320
Wednesday report recommends the State Board

1800
1:46:29.320 --> 1:46:31.420
of Education approve for first reading and filing

1801
1:46:31.420 --> 1:46:36.220
authorization, proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 113,

1802
1:46:36.220 --> 1:46:38.639
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

1803
1:46:38.639 --> 1:46:42.100
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, middle school,

1804
1:46:42.100 --> 1:46:45.110
Subchapter C, High School, and Subchapter D,

1805
1:46:45.110 --> 1:46:46.920
other Social Studies courses

1806
1:46:46.920 --> 1:46:50.810
and proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 118.

1807
1:46:50.810 --> 1:46:53.170
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Economics

1808
1:46:53.170 --> 1:46:55.340
with emphasis on the Free Enterprise System

1809
1:46:55.340 --> 1:46:56.730
and its Benefits,

1810
1:46:56.730 --> 1:46:59.410
Subchapter A, High School, and Subchapter B,

1811
1:46:59.410 --> 1:47:01.290
Other Economic Courses, as amended.

1812
1:47:02.254 --> 1:47:04.600
Are you ready for the vote?

1813
1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:06.260
All those in favor?

1814
1:47:06.260 --> 1:47:07.093
Yes?

1815
1:47:07.093 --> 1:47:07.926
Mr. Cortez.

1816
1:47:07.926 --> 1:47:11.679
One question, I don't know if it's for you or Monica.

1817
1:47:11.679 --> 1:47:14.720
When we approve this today do the work groups

1818
1:47:14.720 --> 1:47:17.160
get information about what was added back in

1819
1:47:17.160 --> 1:47:19.610
so they can give us additional feedback

1820
1:47:19.610 --> 1:47:22.431
or are they done and out at this point?

1821
1:47:22.431 --> 1:47:24.029
That's a good question.

1822
1:47:24.029 --> 1:47:29.029
So their work is complete, however staff does

1823
1:47:29.810 --> 1:47:32.528
take steps to keep them informed of the process

1824
1:47:32.528 --> 1:47:34.991
until it reaches completion.

1825
1:47:34.991 --> 1:47:39.661
So we will communicate with them that you have

1826
1:47:39.661 --> 1:47:42.400
adopted a proposal.

1827
1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:44.570
We will communicate with them when it's posted.

1828
1:47:44.570 --> 1:47:49.570
And some of them, just as citizens and constituents

1829
1:47:50.060 --> 1:47:53.540
will likely provide additional feedback as individuals.

1830
1:47:53.540 --> 1:47:55.700
But you won't send them any kind of email saying,

1831
1:47:55.700 --> 1:47:57.150
hey it's there if you wanna add--

1832
1:47:57.150 --> 1:47:58.767
We do send them communication to say,

1833
1:47:58.767 --> 1:48:01.590
hey it's there, but we're not gonna convene them

1834
1:48:01.590 --> 1:48:04.239
and say give us more feedback because at this point

1835
1:48:04.239 --> 1:48:07.510
any changes would come from you as a board.

1836
1:48:10.640 --> 1:48:11.950
All those in favor, say "aye."

1837
1:48:11.950 --> 1:48:13.493
Aye.

1838
1:48:13.493 --> 1:48:15.220
All those opposed say no.

1839
1:48:16.230 --> 1:48:17.850
That motion is adopted.

1840
1:48:18.844 --> 1:48:20.710
Madame Chair, that's all the report from the

1841
1:48:20.710 --> 1:48:21.900
Committee of the Full Board.

1842
1:48:21.900 --> 1:48:22.960
Okay.

1843
1:48:22.960 --> 1:48:24.743
Moving on, Committee on Instruction.

1844
1:48:24.743 --> 1:48:26.550
Ms. Melton-Malone.

1845
1:48:26.550 --> 1:48:28.168
Thank you, Madame Chair.

1846
1:48:28.168 --> 1:48:32.670
Our first item from the Committee on Instruction,

1847
1:48:32.670 --> 1:48:36.430
excuse me, is number one on the very first page.

1848
1:48:38.490 --> 1:48:40.530
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

1849
1:48:40.530 --> 1:48:42.400
I move that the State Board of Education

1850
1:48:42.400 --> 1:48:45.420
approve for second reading and final adoption,

1851
1:48:45.420 --> 1:48:49.200
the proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 113,

1852
1:48:49.200 --> 1:48:52.015
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

1853
1:48:52.015 --> 1:48:57.015
Subchapter D, other Social Studies courses, 113.70,

1854
1:48:57.347 --> 1:49:00.420
Concurrent Enrollment in College Courses and make

1855
1:49:00.420 --> 1:49:03.180
an affirmative finding that immediate adoption

1856
1:49:03.180 --> 1:49:06.751
of the proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 113,

1857
1:49:06.751 --> 1:49:10.030
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

1858
1:49:10.030 --> 1:49:14.097
Subchapter D, other Social Studies courses, 113.70,

1859
1:49:15.650 --> 1:49:18.524
Concurrent Enrollment in College Courses is necessary

1860
1:49:18.524 --> 1:49:22.170
and shall have and effective date of 20 days

1861
1:49:22.170 --> 1:49:25.190
after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.

1862
1:49:25.190 --> 1:49:27.710
And I believe this requires a two thirds vote, Madame Chair.

1863
1:49:27.710 --> 1:49:30.050
Absolutely and members, we'll need to raise

1864
1:49:30.050 --> 1:49:31.370
our hand for this one.

1865
1:49:31.370 --> 1:49:33.870
All those in favor raise your hands.

1866
1:49:37.570 --> 1:49:39.020
Gotta let staff look at this.

1867
1:49:42.460 --> 1:49:45.260
Do you need to know who it is and write down

1868
1:49:45.260 --> 1:49:47.080
or you just, no, okay.

1869
1:49:47.080 --> 1:49:50.970
Okay, all those opposed, raise your hand.

1870
1:49:50.970 --> 1:49:54.350
Seeing no opposition, the motion is adopted.

1871
1:49:54.350 --> 1:49:55.560
Thank you, Madame Chair.

1872
1:49:55.560 --> 1:49:59.020
Our next item is on page two, number four.

1873
1:50:00.710 --> 1:50:04.140
It is in your board agenda book on page two dash,

1874
1:50:04.140 --> 1:50:06.910
roman numeral II-23.

1875
1:50:06.910 --> 1:50:08.720
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

1876
1:50:08.720 --> 1:50:10.600
I move that the State Board of Education

1877
1:50:10.600 --> 1:50:13.820
approve for a period of five years the innovative

1878
1:50:13.820 --> 1:50:16.085
course that does not fall within any of the

1879
1:50:16.085 --> 1:50:20.500
subject areas of the foundation or enrichment curriculum.

1880
1:50:20.500 --> 1:50:24.210
And this course is titled IB Theory of Knowledge.

1881
1:50:24.210 --> 1:50:26.453
This is an elective for IB students

1882
1:50:26.453 --> 1:50:29.920
and we decided some of us might wanna take it.

1883
1:50:29.920 --> 1:50:30.920
Yeah, absolutely.

1884
1:50:33.921 --> 1:50:37.190
And so this one is, we don't need to

1885
1:50:37.190 --> 1:50:38.506
raise hands on this one.

1886
1:50:38.506 --> 1:50:42.110
All those in favor of the motion, please raise your hand.

1887
1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:46.164
say "aye."

1888
1:50:46.164 --> 1:50:47.250
Aye.

1889
1:50:47.250 --> 1:50:48.450
All those opposed say no.

1890
1:50:48.450 --> 1:50:50.940
Okay, the motion is adopted.

1891
1:50:50.940 --> 1:50:54.960
And Ms. Melton-Malone, as I recall the items

1892
1:50:54.960 --> 1:50:59.960
seven and eight in your agenda were postponed.

1893
1:51:00.060 --> 1:51:01.280
Is that correct?
Exactly right.

1894
1:51:01.280 --> 1:51:02.381
Could you give us just a--

1895
1:51:02.381 --> 1:51:04.830
(speaking with no mic)

1896
1:51:04.830 --> 1:51:06.170
Yes, yes.

1897
1:51:06.170 --> 1:51:08.770
Those are on the dyslexia handbook

1898
1:51:08.770 --> 1:51:11.630
and on some things consorting our students

1899
1:51:11.630 --> 1:51:14.350
who have been identified as being dyslexic.

1900
1:51:14.350 --> 1:51:18.316
And staff almost has it ready.

1901
1:51:18.316 --> 1:51:21.670
We want to be sure that we have included everything

1902
1:51:21.670 --> 1:51:24.280
that needs to be included and that we have

1903
1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:28.840
everything done that needs to be done for our guide,

1904
1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:30.900
for our dyslexia teachers.

1905
1:51:30.900 --> 1:51:35.270
And so we opted to postpone that until the November meeting

1906
1:51:35.270 --> 1:51:38.850
and I believe Monica said, did you say...

1907
1:51:40.530 --> 1:51:41.363
Hey.

1908
1:51:43.840 --> 1:51:46.800
Before the next meeting we would post it?

1909
1:51:46.800 --> 1:51:47.633
Yes, ma'am.

1910
1:51:47.633 --> 1:51:50.380
So we just needed a little bit more time

1911
1:51:50.380 --> 1:51:52.070
to get everything finalized.

1912
1:51:52.070 --> 1:51:54.770
This is not a rule item, so I think similar

1913
1:51:54.770 --> 1:51:58.100
to your Long Range Plan, there will be the one

1914
1:51:58.100 --> 1:52:00.422
approval and we wanted to make sure we had an opportunity

1915
1:52:00.422 --> 1:52:05.422
to post the dyslexia handbook updates for public feedback.

1916
1:52:05.494 --> 1:52:10.470
Our goal is to get that posted about mid September,

1917
1:52:10.470 --> 1:52:13.206
and I recognize that's like now and next week,

1918
1:52:13.206 --> 1:52:18.206
so soon to have it posted through about mid October.

1919
1:52:18.454 --> 1:52:23.454
At which point we will consult with our committee again

1920
1:52:23.820 --> 1:52:26.490
and then make sure that we have everything finalized

1921
1:52:26.490 --> 1:52:29.400
so that you can take action and approve the updates

1922
1:52:29.400 --> 1:52:31.480
to the handbook in November.

1923
1:52:31.480 --> 1:52:34.050
As soon as you take that action, because it is not

1924
1:52:34.050 --> 1:52:36.520
a rule item, then that will be effective

1925
1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:38.700
and then we will begin communicating to districts

1926
1:52:38.700 --> 1:52:39.750
that we have updates.

1927
1:52:41.239 --> 1:52:42.440
May I ask you a question.

1928
1:52:42.440 --> 1:52:47.440
Ms. Miller would you please remind me--

1929
1:52:50.150 --> 1:52:52.143
Maybe this is directed to Monica about,

1930
1:52:52.143 --> 1:52:56.340
someone asked me about the date of when

1931
1:52:56.340 --> 1:52:59.274
you would have the draft ready.

1932
1:52:59.274 --> 1:53:02.660
I know that's probably asking a lot.

1933
1:53:02.660 --> 1:53:05.370
So we wanna have it ready as soon as possible.

1934
1:53:05.370 --> 1:53:07.167
The one thing that we need to do,

1935
1:53:07.167 --> 1:53:10.510
we did say that we send the entire draft out

1936
1:53:10.510 --> 1:53:13.460
to the committees that are making these recommendations.

1937
1:53:13.460 --> 1:53:15.840
And so we wanna give the committees a few days

1938
1:53:15.840 --> 1:53:17.723
to take a look at it and make sure

1939
1:53:17.723 --> 1:53:20.448
that we have captured everything appropriately.

1940
1:53:20.448 --> 1:53:23.760
And then we will get it posted online.

1941
1:53:23.760 --> 1:53:27.840
We will, I think for anyone who's particular interested,

1942
1:53:27.840 --> 1:53:31.830
who's listening, I would encourage them to sign up

1943
1:53:31.830 --> 1:53:35.630
for the English language arts and reading list serve

1944
1:53:35.630 --> 1:53:38.340
because we will make an announcement when it's posted.

1945
1:53:38.340 --> 1:53:41.210
We will also, I had told the Committee on Instruction

1946
1:53:41.210 --> 1:53:43.730
that we would let them know when it's posted,

1947
1:53:43.730 --> 1:53:45.510
but what we'll do is, I'll just ask Debbie

1948
1:53:45.510 --> 1:53:48.580
to send a message to all board members with a link

1949
1:53:48.580 --> 1:53:50.820
so you will get a notification and then you

1950
1:53:50.820 --> 1:53:52.370
can forward that on.

1951
1:53:52.370 --> 1:53:53.920
Okay, thank you.

1952
1:53:56.596 --> 1:54:00.640
And our last motion is on page three.

1953
1:54:01.650 --> 1:54:03.520
It's number six.

1954
1:54:03.520 --> 1:54:07.680
It is in your board agenda book on roman numeral II-37.

1955
1:54:08.709 --> 1:54:11.030
On behalf, pardon me,

1956
1:54:11.030 --> 1:54:12.960
on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

1957
1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:14.840
I move that the State Board of Education

1958
1:54:14.840 --> 1:54:17.637
deny the petition for adoption of a rule

1959
1:54:17.637 --> 1:54:21.590
requiring all Texas students to wear school uniforms

1960
1:54:21.590 --> 1:54:24.310
because the State Board of Education does not

1961
1:54:24.310 --> 1:54:27.170
have jurisdiction or authority to propose

1962
1:54:27.170 --> 1:54:28.660
or adopt the petitioned rule.

1963
1:54:31.028 --> 1:54:34.000
All right, you've heard the motion before you.

1964
1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:35.010
Any discussion?

1965
1:54:35.010 --> 1:54:37.110
Ready for the question?

1966
1:54:37.110 --> 1:54:38.829
All those in favor, say "aye."

1967
1:54:38.829 --> 1:54:39.662
Aye.

1968
1:54:39.662 --> 1:54:40.827
All those opposed say no.

1969
1:54:40.827 --> 1:54:42.381
Yes?

1970
1:54:42.381 --> 1:54:44.900
(speaking with no mic)

1971
1:54:44.900 --> 1:54:45.733
Yes.

1972
1:54:46.640 --> 1:54:47.830
Okay, can you turn your mic on.

1973
1:54:47.830 --> 1:54:48.663
Sorry, I'm sorry.

1974
1:54:48.663 --> 1:54:50.167
I have a question.

1975
1:54:50.167 --> 1:54:53.760
I was under the understanding, and maybe legal

1976
1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:55.399
can shed some light on this.

1977
1:54:55.399 --> 1:54:59.090
That if it was mandated by school district

1978
1:55:00.460 --> 1:55:04.590
that a student was required to wear a uniform

1979
1:55:04.590 --> 1:55:07.190
and that student or that family couldn't afford

1980
1:55:07.190 --> 1:55:10.660
to buy it, that the school district shall provide it.

1981
1:55:10.660 --> 1:55:12.360
Is that accurate?

1982
1:55:13.470 --> 1:55:15.613
Because at least, in my district, there are many kids,

1983
1:55:15.613 --> 1:55:19.340
we find ourselves donating uniforms all the time for--

1984
1:55:19.340 --> 1:55:21.320
That is accurate.

1985
1:55:21.320 --> 1:55:25.580
Okay, and so the petitioner wanted what exactly?

1986
1:55:26.840 --> 1:55:29.820
Petitioner wanted a Statewide Rule

1987
1:55:29.820 --> 1:55:32.070
for every school district, whether they liked it or not,

1988
1:55:32.070 --> 1:55:33.370
there would be uniforms.

1989
1:55:33.370 --> 1:55:36.770
And it has particular things like backpacks

1990
1:55:36.770 --> 1:55:38.249
would have to be clear.

1991
1:55:38.249 --> 1:55:42.390
So very particular aspects of that uniform.

1992
1:55:42.390 --> 1:55:43.790
Which is outside of our authority?

1993
1:55:43.790 --> 1:55:48.300
Right, each school board has the authority to

1994
1:55:48.300 --> 1:55:50.730
require uniforms or not to require uniforms.

1995
1:55:50.730 --> 1:55:52.733
Okay, thank you.

1996
1:55:52.733 --> 1:55:55.540
Madame Chair, that concludes our...

1997
1:55:55.540 --> 1:55:56.373
Your report?

1998
1:55:56.373 --> 1:55:57.206
Report.

1999
1:55:57.206 --> 1:55:58.039
Okay, thank you.

2000
1:56:00.780 --> 1:56:01.908
We did--

2001
1:56:01.908 --> 1:56:02.741
(speaking with no mic)

2002
1:56:02.741 --> 1:56:03.600
Yeah, we did vote.

2003
1:56:05.060 --> 1:56:05.893
Okay.

2004
1:56:06.730 --> 1:56:08.720
All right, Committee on School Initiative

2005
1:56:08.720 --> 1:56:13.720
and I believe that is Chair Cargill.

2006
1:56:13.801 --> 1:56:16.212
All right, I'll take it.

2007
1:56:16.212 --> 1:56:17.541
Okay.

2008
1:56:17.541 --> 1:56:20.430
We saved the best for last.

2009
1:56:20.430 --> 1:56:21.263
All right.

2010
1:56:21.263 --> 1:56:23.460
Give me a minute, I thought I still had another...

2011
1:56:27.140 --> 1:56:28.990
I didn't know I was next.

2012
1:56:28.990 --> 1:56:30.280
Okay, here we are.

2013
1:56:30.280 --> 1:56:34.694
So board members, you have a separate minutes

2014
1:56:34.694 --> 1:56:38.210
and so on page one, agenda item one.

2015
1:56:38.210 --> 1:56:41.490
Review of 19 TAC, Chapter 233.

2016
1:56:41.490 --> 1:56:44.420
Categories of classroom teaching certificates

2017
1:56:44.420 --> 1:56:47.550
and this is on page 4-1 of your books.

2018
1:56:47.550 --> 1:56:50.040
So it was moved by the Committee on School Initiative

2019
1:56:50.040 --> 1:56:52.570
to recommend that the State Board of Education

2020
1:56:52.570 --> 1:56:54.980
take no action on the proposed amendments

2021
1:56:54.980 --> 1:56:59.540
to 19 TAC Chapter 233, categories of classroom

2022
1:56:59.540 --> 1:57:02.040
teaching certificates, with an effective date

2023
1:57:02.040 --> 1:57:04.990
of 20 days after filing the adoption notice

2024
1:57:04.990 --> 1:57:06.310
with the Texas Register.

2025
1:57:07.680 --> 1:57:09.960
Any discussion on that item?

2026
1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:11.685
All those in favor, say "aye."

2027
1:57:11.685 --> 1:57:12.518
Aye.

2028
1:57:12.518 --> 1:57:13.684
All those opposed say no.

2029
1:57:13.684 --> 1:57:15.730
Motion is adopted.

2030
1:57:15.730 --> 1:57:17.530
Okay, on page two of your minutes,

2031
1:57:19.090 --> 1:57:24.090
which would be page 4-27 in your notebook.

2032
1:57:24.380 --> 1:57:27.302
Review of proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 250,

2033
1:57:27.302 --> 1:57:30.739
Administration, Subchapter A, Purchasing,

2034
1:57:30.739 --> 1:57:34.460
Section 250.1, historically underutilized

2035
1:57:34.460 --> 1:57:37.728
business programs, and Subchapter B, rulemaking procedures,

2036
1:57:37.728 --> 1:57:41.705
Section 250.20, petition for adoption of rules

2037
1:57:41.705 --> 1:57:45.990
or rule changes. So the committee recommended

2038
1:57:45.990 --> 1:57:48.030
that the board take no action on the proposed

2039
1:57:48.030 --> 1:57:50.337
amendments to 19 TAC, with an effective date

2040
1:57:50.337 --> 1:57:53.420
of 20 days after filing the adoption notice

2041
1:57:53.420 --> 1:57:54.620
with the Texas Register.

2042
1:57:57.576 --> 1:57:58.920
Okay.

2043
1:57:58.920 --> 1:58:00.580
Any discussion on that one?

2044
1:58:02.330 --> 1:58:05.800
All those in favor of taking no action say "aye"?

2045
1:58:05.800 --> 1:58:06.920
Aye.

2046
1:58:06.920 --> 1:58:08.270
All those opposed say no.

2047
1:58:09.160 --> 1:58:11.070
The motion passes.

2048
1:58:11.070 --> 1:58:15.660
The third item is found on page 4-35 of your notebook

2049
1:58:15.660 --> 1:58:17.405
or page two of the minutes.

2050
1:58:17.405 --> 1:58:19.550
And the committee recommends that the

2051
1:58:19.550 --> 1:58:21.630
State Board of Education take no action

2052
1:58:21.630 --> 1:58:25.789
on the proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 247,

2053
1:58:25.789 --> 1:58:29.369
educators code of ethics, with an effective date

2054
1:58:29.369 --> 1:58:32.920
of 20 days after filing the adoption notice

2055
1:58:32.920 --> 1:58:34.320
with the Texas Register.

2056
1:58:35.380 --> 1:58:37.640
Again, any discussion on that one?

2057
1:58:38.820 --> 1:58:41.809
All of those whose in favor of taking no action say "aye."

2058
1:58:41.809 --> 1:58:42.642
Aye.

2059
1:58:42.642 --> 1:58:43.996
All those opposed say no.

2060
1:58:43.996 --> 1:58:45.930
The motion carries.

2061
1:58:45.930 --> 1:58:49.510
Okay, the fourth item is also on page two of your minutes,

2062
1:58:49.510 --> 1:58:53.110
page 4-47 in your notebook.

2063
1:58:53.110 --> 1:58:55.590
So the Committee on School Initiative recommends

2064
1:58:55.590 --> 1:58:58.044
that the State Board of Education take no action

2065
1:58:58.044 --> 1:59:02.360
on the proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 249,

2066
1:59:02.360 --> 1:59:06.500
Disciplinary Proceedings, Sanctions, and Contested cases,

2067
1:59:06.500 --> 1:59:08.957
Subchapter A, General Provisions.

2068
1:59:08.957 --> 1:59:13.957
Section 249.3, Definition, Section 249.5, purpose,

2069
1:59:15.340 --> 1:59:18.282
policy governing, disciplinary action by state,

2070
1:59:18.282 --> 1:59:22.700
disciplinary proceeding, sorry, and Subchapter B,

2071
1:59:22.700 --> 1:59:24.810
enforcement actions and guidelines.

2072
1:59:24.810 --> 1:59:28.568
Section 249.15, disciplinary action by state board

2073
1:59:28.568 --> 1:59:32.160
for educator certification with an effective date

2074
1:59:32.160 --> 1:59:34.610
of 20 days after filing the adoption notice

2075
1:59:34.610 --> 1:59:35.810
with the Texas Register.

2076
1:59:37.320 --> 1:59:39.300
Again, any discussion on that one?

2077
1:59:41.190 --> 1:59:43.708
Hearing none, all those in favor, say "aye."

2078
1:59:43.708 --> 1:59:44.541
Aye.

2079
1:59:44.541 --> 1:59:45.980
All those opposed say no.

2080
1:59:47.730 --> 1:59:49.840
The motion is passed to take no action.

2081
1:59:50.920 --> 1:59:54.030
And then the final one is found on page

2082
1:59:54.030 --> 1:59:57.940
three of your minutes, in your board book it's on page 4-65.

2083
1:59:59.282 --> 2:00:01.110
(speaking with no mic)

2084
2:00:01.110 --> 2:00:04.650
And the Committee on School Initiative recommends

2085
2:00:04.650 --> 2:00:06.669
that the State Board of Education reject

2086
2:00:06.669 --> 2:00:10.750
the proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 228.

2087
2:00:13.946 --> 2:00:16.090
Any discussion on that one?

2088
2:00:18.630 --> 2:00:19.580
Yes, Mr. Maynard.

2089
2:00:20.520 --> 2:00:22.182
Can I just...

2090
2:00:22.182 --> 2:00:23.187
What are we rejecting?

2091
2:00:23.187 --> 2:00:26.024
Yeah, what are we rejecting and if I can get the

2092
2:00:26.024 --> 2:00:31.024
gentle woman to speak to the motion, please.

2093
2:00:31.540 --> 2:00:35.430
So this was brought to our attention and it was based

2094
2:00:35.430 --> 2:00:38.810
on House Bill 3349

2095
2:00:38.810 --> 2:00:42.060
and with state representative, Irvin Hawkins.

2096
2:00:42.060 --> 2:00:47.060
And so what the concern is is that the expect rule

2097
2:00:47.470 --> 2:00:50.550
goes beyond what the bill calls for.

2098
2:00:50.550 --> 2:00:52.840
So the bill was very specific to trade

2099
2:00:52.840 --> 2:00:55.620
an industrial workforce training and the name

2100
2:00:55.620 --> 2:00:59.220
of the bill is workplace to, or wait,

2101
2:00:59.220 --> 2:01:00.053
workplace to classroom.

2102
2:01:00.053 --> 2:01:01.180
Industry to workplace.

2103
2:01:01.180 --> 2:01:02.630
Industry to workplace, thank you.

2104
2:01:02.630 --> 2:01:03.805
Industry to--

2105
2:01:03.805 --> 2:01:05.727
That doesn't make sense.

2106
2:01:05.727 --> 2:01:09.680
Industry to classroom, okay there we go.

2107
2:01:09.680 --> 2:01:12.130
We've had a lot on our minds lately.

2108
2:01:12.130 --> 2:01:15.037
And so, and I think all of us greatly applaud

2109
2:01:15.037 --> 2:01:18.730
the purpose of the bill which is to get experienced

2110
2:01:18.730 --> 2:01:21.480
people who have worked in the industry for at least

2111
2:01:21.480 --> 2:01:25.005
seven years into the classroom on this abbreviated

2112
2:01:25.005 --> 2:01:28.940
educator certification program.

2113
2:01:28.940 --> 2:01:31.070
And so but what the bill did is it also added

2114
2:01:31.070 --> 2:01:34.970
health science and marketing certificates.

2115
2:01:34.970 --> 2:01:37.470
And those only require two years of experience

2116
2:01:37.470 --> 2:01:39.360
on the abbreviated program.

2117
2:01:39.360 --> 2:01:41.720
So that was part of the concern.

2118
2:01:41.720 --> 2:01:44.829
It also reduces the total amount of preparation time

2119
2:01:44.829 --> 2:01:46.840
and classroom experience.

2120
2:01:46.840 --> 2:01:51.840
So by rejecting this, what it enables expect to do,

2121
2:01:52.140 --> 2:01:54.220
they're going to be meeting again in October

2122
2:01:54.220 --> 2:01:56.980
where they will review the concerns and then they

2123
2:01:56.980 --> 2:01:57.990
will come back to the Committee

2124
2:01:57.990 --> 2:02:00.257
on School Initiatives in November.

2125
2:02:00.257 --> 2:02:02.640
So it doesn't extend the time too much,

2126
2:02:02.640 --> 2:02:04.920
but I think they will address all of the concerns.

2127
2:02:04.920 --> 2:02:07.470
We had several testifiers, including the state rep.

2128
2:02:09.258 --> 2:02:12.960
Yes, Mr. Rowley and then Mr. Cortez.

2129
2:02:12.960 --> 2:02:14.250
There were a number of other factors

2130
2:02:14.250 --> 2:02:15.958
that we also looked at.

2131
2:02:15.958 --> 2:02:19.930
We had three tests, for testifiers in opposition to this.

2132
2:02:19.930 --> 2:02:21.900
The classroom teachers association,

2133
2:02:21.900 --> 2:02:23.800
state teachers association, ATPE,

2134
2:02:24.711 --> 2:02:27.160
and the Texas American Confederation of Teachers.

2135
2:02:27.160 --> 2:02:29.220
The concern was this is a streamlined

2136
2:02:30.289 --> 2:02:34.247
method of obtaining a certification.

2137
2:02:34.247 --> 2:02:38.820
And we were fine with the idea in industrial trade

2138
2:02:38.820 --> 2:02:42.080
and industrial classifications, which is a specific

2139
2:02:42.080 --> 2:02:46.720
classification under the teacher's credential's chart.

2140
2:02:46.720 --> 2:02:48.389
I think, if that's what it's called.

2141
2:02:48.389 --> 2:02:53.389
And marketing and health sciences were totally different.

2142
2:02:54.160 --> 2:02:55.730
They were totally separate.

2143
2:02:55.730 --> 2:02:58.470
The bill also required seven years,

2144
2:02:58.470 --> 2:03:00.310
at least seven years of experience in that

2145
2:03:00.310 --> 2:03:03.210
particular occupation and in marketing

2146
2:03:03.210 --> 2:03:04.970
and health sciences, there's only

2147
2:03:04.970 --> 2:03:07.090
two years requirement there.

2148
2:03:07.090 --> 2:03:09.810
So we didn't feel like it fit underneath the bill.

2149
2:03:09.810 --> 2:03:12.850
We'd think that as Ms. Cargill said,

2150
2:03:12.850 --> 2:03:15.360
that it can come back to us in November

2151
2:03:15.360 --> 2:03:16.981
and still get implemented in time.

2152
2:03:16.981 --> 2:03:21.981
The other point was SBEC voted three

2153
2:03:22.050 --> 2:03:25.390
or four to three, basically, in favor of this.

2154
2:03:25.390 --> 2:03:28.330
So it was a split vote there also.

2155
2:03:33.210 --> 2:03:36.280
And also, and just to clarify one thing.

2156
2:03:36.280 --> 2:03:39.130
The health science and marketing was not

2157
2:03:40.270 --> 2:03:42.180
specifically called out in the bill.

2158
2:03:43.170 --> 2:03:45.430
Yeah and so just correct that point.

2159
2:03:45.430 --> 2:03:47.237
That wasn't, so during their meetings

2160
2:03:47.237 --> 2:03:49.550
they decided they wanted to add that in

2161
2:03:49.550 --> 2:03:53.940
and so that was another area of the folks

2162
2:03:53.940 --> 2:03:57.580
that came to testify against us approving was,

2163
2:03:57.580 --> 2:04:00.110
hey they went above and beyond their statutory

2164
2:04:00.110 --> 2:04:01.830
authority of this legislation.

2165
2:04:01.830 --> 2:04:03.650
So that was the other reason why we said,

2166
2:04:03.650 --> 2:04:07.360
let's send it back on the trade

2167
2:04:07.360 --> 2:04:09.190
and industrial workforce training.

2168
2:04:09.190 --> 2:04:11.330
That was fine and then all the other stuff

2169
2:04:11.330 --> 2:04:15.240
that Member Rowley said and Member Cargill said is accurate.

2170
2:04:15.240 --> 2:04:17.020
I just wanted to clarify that one point

2171
2:04:17.020 --> 2:04:18.888
because that obviously real important

2172
2:04:18.888 --> 2:04:22.070
if we're talking about the legislature.

2173
2:04:26.910 --> 2:04:27.968
Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz.

2174
2:04:27.968 --> 2:04:29.850
Thank you, Madame Chair.

2175
2:04:29.850 --> 2:04:32.329
I just wanna reiterate that we heard from,

2176
2:04:32.329 --> 2:04:35.000
I personally heard from some school districts

2177
2:04:35.000 --> 2:04:38.350
that really like the idea about this because especially

2178
2:04:38.350 --> 2:04:41.900
for our rural districts, it's difficult to attract talent

2179
2:04:41.900 --> 2:04:45.520
to come and educate because of their geographic

2180
2:04:45.520 --> 2:04:47.065
locations and for other reasons.

2181
2:04:47.065 --> 2:04:50.630
It's just a matter of what the bill says

2182
2:04:50.630 --> 2:04:54.357
versus what was then proposed in rule text.

2183
2:04:54.357 --> 2:04:57.770
And so we wanna make sure that we clearly state

2184
2:04:57.770 --> 2:04:59.544
what intentions are and I think,

2185
2:04:59.544 --> 2:05:02.280
so one of the things that's gonna happen in San Antonio

2186
2:05:02.280 --> 2:05:05.500
and I encourage you all to talk to your people

2187
2:05:05.500 --> 2:05:08.890
in your areas, is we're gonna have a community forum

2188
2:05:08.890 --> 2:05:12.420
where we have business and industry and education

2189
2:05:12.420 --> 2:05:15.190
come together and have this conversation about needs

2190
2:05:15.190 --> 2:05:17.992
and the capacity in between the two and how we can,

2191
2:05:17.992 --> 2:05:20.460
how we can work to make this happen.

2192
2:05:25.610 --> 2:05:27.190
Then to put a finer point on one of the points

2193
2:05:27.190 --> 2:05:29.620
that Member Rowley made, it was a four to three vote

2194
2:05:29.620 --> 2:05:30.860
on their 11 member board.

2195
2:05:30.860 --> 2:05:32.710
So that was with four members that were absent

2196
2:05:32.710 --> 2:05:34.770
at the meeting that the vote took place on.

2197
2:05:34.770 --> 2:05:37.090
And one other thing we didn't touch on is that

2198
2:05:37.090 --> 2:05:40.300
right now the training must be provided by an EPP

2199
2:05:40.300 --> 2:05:42.470
or someone else approved by the agency

2200
2:05:42.470 --> 2:05:45.830
and the rule also added in school districts and campuses,

2201
2:05:45.830 --> 2:05:47.790
which was not in the bill also.

2202
2:05:53.150 --> 2:05:55.870
If possible, and perhaps maybe in November,

2203
2:05:55.870 --> 2:06:00.310
or unless you have the answer now, Member Cargill,

2204
2:06:00.310 --> 2:06:03.290
I'm wondering how this streamlining,

2205
2:06:03.290 --> 2:06:05.082
and I'm not sure that's the appropriate word either

2206
2:06:05.082 --> 2:06:08.716
of teacher credentials and teacher certifications

2207
2:06:08.716 --> 2:06:12.617
is not antithetical to accountability

2208
2:06:12.617 --> 2:06:15.890
and particularly, contradictory to the LRP

2209
2:06:15.890 --> 2:06:18.650
when we're talking in ex tense about

2210
2:06:19.876 --> 2:06:23.886
raising standards for quality educators.

2211
2:06:23.886 --> 2:06:28.760
I'm very displeased with the notion that everyone can teach.

2212
2:06:28.760 --> 2:06:30.640
I don't believe that to the truth.

2213
2:06:30.640 --> 2:06:33.100
I think everyone can learn.

2214
2:06:33.100 --> 2:06:35.190
But not everyone, whether it's a streamlined

2215
2:06:35.190 --> 2:06:38.160
or a fast track or whatever you wanna call it,

2216
2:06:38.160 --> 2:06:41.000
it is the best way to serve the students of Texas.

2217
2:06:41.000 --> 2:06:44.370
And while it is rather difficult to attract

2218
2:06:44.370 --> 2:06:46.450
teachers and talent and to several districts,

2219
2:06:46.450 --> 2:06:49.581
particularly mine, especially Odessa,

2220
2:06:49.581 --> 2:06:52.910
where we have over a 250 teacher shortage.

2221
2:06:52.910 --> 2:06:56.605
Making the profession of being a classroom teacher

2222
2:06:56.605 --> 2:07:00.040
easier to get into is not the solution.

2223
2:07:00.040 --> 2:07:02.510
Perhaps raising teacher salaries is.

2224
2:07:06.960 --> 2:07:10.377
(chattering with no mic)

2225
2:07:11.970 --> 2:07:12.803
Okay.

2226
2:07:12.803 --> 2:07:14.299
Are you ready for the question?

2227
2:07:15.350 --> 2:07:20.350
All those in favor of rejecting the motion before us say,

2228
2:07:20.610 --> 2:07:22.760
we need a two thirds vote on this actually.

2229
2:07:22.760 --> 2:07:25.784
So all those in favor of rejection,

2230
2:07:25.784 --> 2:07:28.630
the motion to reject, raise your hand.

2231
2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:35.743
Reject it and set it on fire.

2232
2:07:35.743 --> 2:07:39.120
All those in favor of not rejecting.

2233
2:07:41.290 --> 2:07:42.260
Okay.

2234
2:07:42.260 --> 2:07:43.590
There you go.

2235
2:07:43.590 --> 2:07:45.840
So the motion is adopted.

2236
2:07:45.840 --> 2:07:48.730
All right, and I believe that's it for your committee.

2237
2:07:48.730 --> 2:07:50.510
Is that right, Ms. Cargill?

2238
2:07:50.510 --> 2:07:51.678
That's it.

2239
2:07:51.678 --> 2:07:54.320
Okay, members, we have one more committee

2240
2:07:54.320 --> 2:07:57.210
that does not have any items on the agenda,

2241
2:07:57.210 --> 2:08:00.570
but does wish to speak and that would be from Chair Bradley.

2242
2:08:03.100 --> 2:08:05.868
All items were on the consent, but there were a couple

2243
2:08:05.868 --> 2:08:09.644
items that required just a brief discussion.

2244
2:08:09.644 --> 2:08:13.300
If you look on page one of your minutes,

2245
2:08:13.300 --> 2:08:16.040
under consent item number one, the per capita

2246
2:08:16.040 --> 2:08:20.106
apportionment rate for 2018/2019.

2247
2:08:20.106 --> 2:08:23.330
For those that are listening, what that means is that

2248
2:08:23.330 --> 2:08:28.080
we adopt the amount of dollars that are distributed

2249
2:08:28.080 --> 2:08:30.210
on a per student basis to districts

2250
2:08:30.210 --> 2:08:34.410
based on distributions from our Permanent School Fund

2251
2:08:34.410 --> 2:08:35.756
and other sources.

2252
2:08:35.756 --> 2:08:38.800
Noted, they came, in the recommendation came in

2253
2:08:38.800 --> 2:08:43.003
that we set the rate at $459.64.

2254
2:08:43.003 --> 2:08:47.730
764 for the coming school year.

2255
2:08:47.730 --> 2:08:50.090
Interestingly enough, it's down to the penny

2256
2:08:50.090 --> 2:08:52.361
and it's down to the tenth of a penny and I asked

2257
2:08:52.361 --> 2:08:56.170
the finance guy, is that important.

2258
2:08:56.170 --> 2:08:58.330
And he says, yes that tenths of a penny,

2259
2:08:58.330 --> 2:09:00.760
when you multiply it times five million kids

2260
2:09:00.760 --> 2:09:02.730
is a lot of money.

2261
2:09:02.730 --> 2:09:05.610
So then I came back with the next question

2262
2:09:05.610 --> 2:09:07.869
and I just received the information and this is,

2263
2:09:07.869 --> 2:09:11.730
in fact this number is a preliminary number

2264
2:09:11.730 --> 2:09:14.220
because values of the fund may change

2265
2:09:14.220 --> 2:09:17.250
and enrollment may change, but it's pretty close.

2266
2:09:17.250 --> 2:09:21.200
So I asked the question, given our decision yesterday,

2267
2:09:21.200 --> 2:09:24.730
or yes, on Wednesday, as to what our payout was going

2268
2:09:24.730 --> 2:09:28.080
to be from the Permanent School Fund, how that would

2269
2:09:28.080 --> 2:09:31.570
impact the apportionment rate.

2270
2:09:32.540 --> 2:09:34.240
Well it's a big number.

2271
2:09:34.240 --> 2:09:38.580
Remember we dropped our payout by 225 million a year

2272
2:09:38.580 --> 2:09:40.850
because of the lack of contributions

2273
2:09:40.850 --> 2:09:42.460
from the school land board.

2274
2:09:42.460 --> 2:09:44.230
Well here's the result.

2275
2:09:45.390 --> 2:09:48.040
That the per capita rate, assuming all other things

2276
2:09:48.040 --> 2:09:52.315
being equal and constant, will drop from $459 a child

2277
2:09:52.315 --> 2:09:56.430
to $415 a child.

2278
2:09:56.430 --> 2:09:58.530
That's the first time that that's happened.

2279
2:09:58.530 --> 2:10:00.420
That we've gone in the wrong direction.

2280
2:10:00.420 --> 2:10:02.720
And they're certainly not gonna have a discussion

2281
2:10:02.720 --> 2:10:07.196
about increasing the current rate for inflation

2282
2:10:07.196 --> 2:10:11.260
or student growth so that's a big number in the real world.

2283
2:10:11.260 --> 2:10:14.050
And I think superintendents now will pay attention

2284
2:10:14.050 --> 2:10:15.650
to this little tid bit.

2285
2:10:17.260 --> 2:10:21.114
Going on to our real estate portfolio

2286
2:10:21.114 --> 2:10:23.700
because there seems to be some discussion

2287
2:10:23.700 --> 2:10:26.060
about who's doing better.

2288
2:10:26.060 --> 2:10:28.730
We are aggressively placing real estate investments

2289
2:10:28.730 --> 2:10:31.800
as we've had since 2002.

2290
2:10:32.640 --> 2:10:35.880
2001 we placed 100 million dollars with one firm.

2291
2:10:35.880 --> 2:10:38.840
We placed another 75 million with a firm.

2292
2:10:38.840 --> 2:10:42.188
And we placed another 75 euros with another firm.

2293
2:10:42.188 --> 2:10:43.810
We're doing this every meeting.

2294
2:10:43.810 --> 2:10:47.630
We're putting out commitments to get several

2295
2:10:47.630 --> 2:10:49.740
billion dollars of real estate investments

2296
2:10:49.740 --> 2:10:51.540
into our portfolio.

2297
2:10:51.540 --> 2:10:53.544
These are simply but commitments.

2298
2:10:53.544 --> 2:10:57.340
We're promising to fund these as these projects develop

2299
2:10:57.340 --> 2:10:59.941
and they're what we call cash calls.

2300
2:10:59.941 --> 2:11:03.819
We don't keep much cash on hand because we can operate

2301
2:11:03.819 --> 2:11:05.810
with minimal cash to fund it.

2302
2:11:05.810 --> 2:11:10.000
We spend, we payout about 300 to 500 million a year

2303
2:11:10.000 --> 2:11:11.950
to meet these commitments that we're making

2304
2:11:11.950 --> 2:11:13.510
at every meeting.

2305
2:11:13.510 --> 2:11:18.315
We keep less than one percent of our fund assets in cash.

2306
2:11:18.315 --> 2:11:21.750
We don't require four billion dollars in cash

2307
2:11:21.750 --> 2:11:24.920
sitting around waiting on calls.

2308
2:11:24.920 --> 2:11:26.510
So let's move on.

2309
2:11:26.510 --> 2:11:27.800
The last item.

2310
2:11:30.614 --> 2:11:35.260
Madame Chair, we have a letter that was discussed

2311
2:11:35.260 --> 2:11:39.870
and basically, for disclosure and for consent,

2312
2:11:39.870 --> 2:11:42.150
the State Board of Education respectfully requests

2313
2:11:42.150 --> 2:11:44.294
that members of the state land board reconsider

2314
2:11:44.294 --> 2:11:48.690
their August 21st, 2018 decision not to distribute

2315
2:11:48.690 --> 2:11:50.423
funds to the Permanent School Fund,

2316
2:11:50.423 --> 2:11:52.745
State Board of Education.

2317
2:11:52.745 --> 2:11:54.290
We're gonna forward that letter.

2318
2:11:54.290 --> 2:11:56.260
I've collected everybody's signatures.

2319
2:11:56.260 --> 2:11:58.420
I would like everyone to know that the school land

2320
2:11:58.420 --> 2:12:00.678
board meeting is on October the second.

2321
2:12:00.678 --> 2:12:04.770
Mr. Cortez you are a wonder child in turning

2322
2:12:04.770 --> 2:12:07.520
out public testimony.

2323
2:12:07.520 --> 2:12:10.630
I bet they have an opportunity for public testimony.

2324
2:12:11.570 --> 2:12:12.870
Let's see what you can do.

2325
2:12:14.853 --> 2:12:15.905
(laughing)

2326
2:12:15.905 --> 2:12:17.776
Let us approach her.

2327
2:12:17.776 --> 2:12:18.609
That was...

2328
2:12:20.360 --> 2:12:24.000
Before we move from that, from our committee

2329
2:12:24.000 --> 2:12:25.820
if I could get Tom to help me because you're going

2330
2:12:25.820 --> 2:12:27.850
to receive a letter, if you didn't get one in the box,

2331
2:12:27.850 --> 2:12:31.600
when you get home about the art contest.

2332
2:12:31.600 --> 2:12:32.800
And Tom can explain it.

2333
2:12:32.800 --> 2:12:34.900
So if you have any questions that you,

2334
2:12:34.900 --> 2:12:36.950
David framed it in the committee as a formal,

2335
2:12:36.950 --> 2:12:38.760
how you pay your bills, but it's not a bill,

2336
2:12:38.760 --> 2:12:41.610
it's a contribution or a donation.

2337
2:12:41.610 --> 2:12:43.240
But it will be coming to you soon.

2338
2:12:43.240 --> 2:12:44.800
And I'd like for Tom to speak to it

2339
2:12:44.800 --> 2:12:46.654
before we close out.

2340
2:12:46.654 --> 2:12:49.904
(speaking with no mic)

2341
2:12:51.945 --> 2:12:53.140
Mr. Maynard.

2342
2:12:53.140 --> 2:12:57.353
And just as a note, and I know that these

2343
2:12:57.353 --> 2:13:00.430
nuggets of kind of useless information,

2344
2:13:00.430 --> 2:13:04.410
we kind of put them out there frequently,

2345
2:13:04.410 --> 2:13:09.120
but Chair Bradley, I did find that the per capita

2346
2:13:09.120 --> 2:13:11.460
distribution in 1857 was $1.21.

2347
2:13:13.134 --> 2:13:15.745
Tom, you kill me.

2348
2:13:15.745 --> 2:13:17.350
Well it was pretty minimal at the time.

2349
2:13:17.350 --> 2:13:19.140
Actually, that number is there.

2350
2:13:20.654 --> 2:13:22.440
So yes, so we are,

2351
2:13:22.440 --> 2:13:25.426
and just so everybody understands it's that,

2352
2:13:25.426 --> 2:13:30.426
since our last meeting we have undertaken a pretty

2353
2:13:30.530 --> 2:13:34.117
aggressive research project to capture

2354
2:13:36.573 --> 2:13:40.900
some of the History of the Permanent School Fund.

2355
2:13:40.900 --> 2:13:43.180
Simply because is that one of the thing we asked

2356
2:13:43.180 --> 2:13:46.402
the students to do is to execute something that

2357
2:13:46.402 --> 2:13:51.402
represents the History and the mission of the fund.

2358
2:13:53.890 --> 2:13:56.900
Well as it turns out, there are some narratives

2359
2:13:56.900 --> 2:13:58.730
regarding the Permanent School Fund

2360
2:13:58.730 --> 2:14:00.908
that are not exactly accurate.

2361
2:14:00.908 --> 2:14:05.908
And so we have got, I forwarded it to a few of you,

2362
2:14:08.410 --> 2:14:10.582
kind of a proposed history Holland Timmins

2363
2:14:10.582 --> 2:14:13.440
sent that back to me, but we're gonna go ahead

2364
2:14:13.440 --> 2:14:14.930
and get that posted.

2365
2:14:14.930 --> 2:14:17.660
The reason that's important to us is that

2366
2:14:17.660 --> 2:14:20.710
I know that a lot of times is that,

2367
2:14:20.710 --> 2:14:23.020
that y'all go out and you talk to constituents

2368
2:14:23.020 --> 2:14:24.744
about the work of the Permanent School Fund

2369
2:14:24.744 --> 2:14:28.121
and for you to be entirely accurate

2370
2:14:28.121 --> 2:14:32.232
and to be ale to really explain that in a way

2371
2:14:32.232 --> 2:14:37.232
that we're about to hand off to you some new information.

2372
2:14:37.831 --> 2:14:41.040
But it's my understanding that currently

2373
2:14:41.040 --> 2:14:43.820
in the fund we have $600

2374
2:14:43.820 --> 2:14:45.690
and that represent two contributions.

2375
2:14:47.280 --> 2:14:50.070
And the same two contributions that we received

2376
2:14:50.070 --> 2:14:52.020
at the end of last meeting.

2377
2:14:52.020 --> 2:14:56.660
And so I just implore you that we,

2378
2:14:56.660 --> 2:14:59.660
in order to make this thing work that we

2379
2:14:59.660 --> 2:15:01.720
do need for everybody to help us out

2380
2:15:01.720 --> 2:15:03.900
and to participate and if you've got a few

2381
2:15:03.900 --> 2:15:06.277
other folks that can help us with that.

2382
2:15:06.277 --> 2:15:10.610
I think that the two contributions that came in

2383
2:15:10.610 --> 2:15:12.050
from the two board members, one of them

2384
2:15:12.050 --> 2:15:14.150
being myself, another being Ms. Bahorich

2385
2:15:14.150 --> 2:15:18.368
is they're each $300, is what we did.

2386
2:15:18.368 --> 2:15:22.641
And so we would, in advance, thank you for that

2387
2:15:22.641 --> 2:15:25.270
and sooner is better.

2388
2:15:26.290 --> 2:15:27.625
Madame Chair.

2389
2:15:27.625 --> 2:15:28.830
Yes.

2390
2:15:28.830 --> 2:15:30.070
And I'll close.

2391
2:15:30.070 --> 2:15:32.060
In fact I've asked Debbie, she said,

2392
2:15:32.060 --> 2:15:33.670
well we could send everybody an email.

2393
2:15:33.670 --> 2:15:36.348
No, I've asked her to send you a letter

2394
2:15:36.348 --> 2:15:39.930
with a return envelope that will be stamped,

2395
2:15:39.930 --> 2:15:42.240
just to encourage you.
Yeah, that's a great idea.

2396
2:15:43.115 --> 2:15:43.948
I know myself.

2397
2:15:43.948 --> 2:15:46.238
I get emails, but if I get a bill in the mail

2398
2:15:46.238 --> 2:15:49.870
and there's a return envelope and it has a stamp on it,

2399
2:15:49.870 --> 2:15:51.042
it almost demands action.

2400
2:15:51.042 --> 2:15:52.194
A forever stamp.

2401
2:15:52.194 --> 2:15:53.538
A forever stamp.

2402
2:15:53.538 --> 2:15:57.110
And lastly, I do need on this letter,

2403
2:15:57.110 --> 2:16:00.130
I believe we need some type of action for consent

2404
2:16:00.130 --> 2:16:01.390
to forward it from before.

2405
2:16:01.390 --> 2:16:03.270
Absolutely, I think Mr. Cortez

2406
2:16:03.270 --> 2:16:04.470
wanted to say something.

2407
2:16:09.770 --> 2:16:10.720
I wanted to ask,

2408
2:16:13.420 --> 2:16:16.900
is the money from that state agency,

2409
2:16:16.900 --> 2:16:18.890
do they handle it the way that they handle ours

2410
2:16:18.890 --> 2:16:21.540
when we set our rate and the amount of money it's gonna

2411
2:16:21.540 --> 2:16:23.600
get sent over from the biennium.

2412
2:16:23.600 --> 2:16:26.040
While we expect or we would like 100% of it

2413
2:16:26.040 --> 2:16:28.390
to be used for instructional material and technology

2414
2:16:28.390 --> 2:16:30.892
allotment, we know that it's about 50%.

2415
2:16:30.892 --> 2:16:33.220
The money that's coming from this land board,

2416
2:16:33.220 --> 2:16:36.919
the school land board, if he's,

2417
2:16:36.919 --> 2:16:40.040
if Member Bradley's talking about this

2418
2:16:40.040 --> 2:16:44.333
dropped just under $460 to about $415,

2419
2:16:44.333 --> 2:16:47.147
that negative loss to our students.

2420
2:16:47.147 --> 2:16:50.329
Are we assured that whatever they are sending

2421
2:16:50.329 --> 2:16:55.329
is gonna be used 100% or 50% like ours for this

2422
2:16:55.880 --> 2:16:59.450
or can the state use it for anything else that they choose?

2423
2:16:59.450 --> 2:17:02.317
So there are two things that money from the

2424
2:17:02.317 --> 2:17:06.660
Available School Fund goes to do and one is to pay

2425
2:17:06.660 --> 2:17:10.150
for textbooks, that's what you all do when you set

2426
2:17:10.150 --> 2:17:12.481
your total returns.

2427
2:17:12.481 --> 2:17:16.700
50% of what you set there gets devoted to textbook.

2428
2:17:16.700 --> 2:17:20.090
The other thing is the per capita distribution

2429
2:17:20.090 --> 2:17:21.597
to school districts.

2430
2:17:21.597 --> 2:17:26.363
Since the distribution from the school land board

2431
2:17:28.678 --> 2:17:33.678
under article five, subsection G of the constitution

2432
2:17:34.490 --> 2:17:35.930
does not go through you.

2433
2:17:35.930 --> 2:17:40.110
It is not separated into calculation

2434
2:17:40.110 --> 2:17:42.440
for the instruction materials.

2435
2:17:42.440 --> 2:17:44.130
And that has been the historical practice.

2436
2:17:44.130 --> 2:17:48.193
So what it will go do is pay for the per capita distribution

2437
2:17:48.193 --> 2:17:51.348
so all of that money will pay for a per capita distribution.

2438
2:17:51.348 --> 2:17:54.357
The per capita distribution affects districts

2439
2:17:54.357 --> 2:17:55.840
in one of two ways.

2440
2:17:55.840 --> 2:17:58.133
If you're a Chapter 41 district,

2441
2:17:58.133 --> 2:18:02.530
that money will come to you on top of the money

2442
2:18:02.530 --> 2:18:05.300
that you are allowed to retain under

2443
2:18:05.300 --> 2:18:07.300
the foundation's school program.

2444
2:18:07.300 --> 2:18:10.290
If you are a Chapter 42 district,

2445
2:18:10.290 --> 2:18:13.080
that money will be used a method of finance

2446
2:18:13.080 --> 2:18:17.220
to pay for your foundation school program entitlement.

2447
2:18:17.220 --> 2:18:19.330
Since it's a method of finance there,

2448
2:18:19.330 --> 2:18:22.230
that will reduce the general revenue

2449
2:18:22.230 --> 2:18:24.800
necessary to be devoted to pay for the

2450
2:18:24.800 --> 2:18:27.970
foundation school program that the legislature

2451
2:18:27.970 --> 2:18:28.920
has to appropriate.

2452
2:18:30.669 --> 2:18:32.061
And that's all, I just wanted clarification on that.

2453
2:18:32.061 --> 2:18:37.061
So then that is a true reflection of a loss

2454
2:18:37.967 --> 2:18:40.736
of instructional material dollars because it's gonna go,

2455
2:18:40.736 --> 2:18:44.740
not for that specific purpose, but to basically

2456
2:18:44.740 --> 2:18:47.760
offset the state's portion of what they use

2457
2:18:47.760 --> 2:18:49.953
to finance public education outside of instruction

2458
2:18:49.953 --> 2:18:51.660
material and technology allowance.

2459
2:18:51.660 --> 2:18:54.580
If the legislature treats this the same way

2460
2:18:54.580 --> 2:18:57.110
that have treated it historically, that's correct.

2461
2:18:58.110 --> 2:18:59.340
Okay, thank you.

2462
2:18:59.340 --> 2:19:02.271
If I can get a digital copy of that letter...

2463
2:19:02.271 --> 2:19:03.540
Yeah, it will be sent to everybody.

2464
2:19:03.540 --> 2:19:04.847
In addition to a hard copy.

2465
2:19:04.847 --> 2:19:06.330
It'll be sent to everybody.

2466
2:19:06.330 --> 2:19:07.660
And a copy, yeah.
But a digital, with--

2467
2:19:07.660 --> 2:19:10.210
A digital with signatures, I would appreciate that.

2468
2:19:11.250 --> 2:19:12.750
And the information on that...

2469
2:19:13.760 --> 2:19:16.692
And I will note that embedded in the letter,

2470
2:19:16.692 --> 2:19:21.692
and we put it italicized, we said please note,

2471
2:19:21.770 --> 2:19:24.680
and this letter is addressed to all three members

2472
2:19:24.680 --> 2:19:26.220
of the school land board.

2473
2:19:26.220 --> 2:19:27.889
It's a policy request.

2474
2:19:27.889 --> 2:19:30.931
But we said please note that your ASF contribution,

2475
2:19:30.931 --> 2:19:35.530
which was $600 million, while benefiting the per capita

2476
2:19:35.530 --> 2:19:38.150
distribution does not directly benefit

2477
2:19:38.150 --> 2:19:42.880
needed instructional materials and technology funding.

2478
2:19:42.880 --> 2:19:45.080
So we made our point.

2479
2:19:45.080 --> 2:19:46.640
Yes, Dr. Ellis

2480
2:19:47.490 --> 2:19:49.420
I just wanna add something to what Von said

2481
2:19:49.420 --> 2:19:51.940
about the Chapter 41, Chapter 42.

2482
2:19:51.940 --> 2:19:53.630
I know most of y'all understand what that means,

2483
2:19:53.630 --> 2:19:57.073
but Chapter 42, which would not benefit from the ASF

2484
2:19:57.073 --> 2:20:00.570
that's coming from school land board

2485
2:20:00.570 --> 2:20:02.340
are the property poor districts.

2486
2:20:08.440 --> 2:20:11.080
I think you need to elaborate on that just a tad,

2487
2:20:11.080 --> 2:20:13.780
because that was a pretty significant drop of the mic.

2488
2:20:16.191 --> 2:20:17.578
It's still on my desk.

2489
2:20:17.578 --> 2:20:19.828
(laughing)

2490
2:20:21.084 --> 2:20:21.917
Yeah.

2491
2:20:21.917 --> 2:20:23.170
If he dropped it, I would leave.

2492
2:20:23.170 --> 2:20:24.003
That's right.

2493
2:20:25.570 --> 2:20:27.852
Okay to reiterate what Von said,

2494
2:20:27.852 --> 2:20:31.110
when the ASF goes to a per capita distribution

2495
2:20:31.110 --> 2:20:35.630
for students, in a nutshell it benefits the Chapter 41,

2496
2:20:35.630 --> 2:20:37.940
the property wealthy districts because they get,

2497
2:20:37.940 --> 2:20:41.790
essentially get that on top of their other funding.

2498
2:20:41.790 --> 2:20:44.590
The Chapter 42 districts, it goes into the money

2499
2:20:44.590 --> 2:20:46.370
they would have received anyway, so essentially

2500
2:20:46.370 --> 2:20:50.650
they do not benefit additionally from the per capita ASF

2501
2:20:50.650 --> 2:20:54.630
and the 42s are the property poor districts.

2502
2:20:54.630 --> 2:20:59.330
So the ones who do not benefit from ASF per capita,

2503
2:20:59.330 --> 2:21:01.890
which is now what's coming over from

2504
2:21:01.890 --> 2:21:04.770
the school land board would go 100% to that,

2505
2:21:05.671 --> 2:21:08.620
or the property poor districts that won't benefit

2506
2:21:08.620 --> 2:21:12.299
at all from that 600 million.

2507
2:21:12.299 --> 2:21:14.030
(speaking with no mic)

2508
2:21:14.030 --> 2:21:14.863
Oh wow, okay.

2509
2:21:16.038 --> 2:21:19.450
Yes, it only benefits the wealthy.

2510
2:21:20.370 --> 2:21:23.370
Okay, any other comments before we take the vote

2511
2:21:23.370 --> 2:21:28.020
to authorize me, basically me to send over this board

2512
2:21:28.020 --> 2:21:28.980
on the board's behalf,

2513
2:21:28.980 --> 2:21:30.710
on the board's behalf to send the letter over.

2514
2:21:30.710 --> 2:21:32.150
Yes, Ms. Hardy.

2515
2:21:32.150 --> 2:21:35.675
I just wanna make a comment that I appreciate

2516
2:21:35.675 --> 2:21:40.675
the fact that David and Tom went to the hearing

2517
2:21:40.980 --> 2:21:44.780
of the land board to, and the sunset review committee

2518
2:21:44.780 --> 2:21:46.420
and the work that you've done,

2519
2:21:46.420 --> 2:21:49.810
and I know this has been a very difficult process

2520
2:21:49.810 --> 2:21:52.640
to get this letter wordsmithed and so forth,

2521
2:21:52.640 --> 2:21:54.240
but I appreciate what y'all have done

2522
2:21:54.240 --> 2:21:56.870
because you've done yeomann's work and it's,

2523
2:21:56.870 --> 2:21:58.843
I think it's very important that we get that across

2524
2:21:58.843 --> 2:22:02.715
with a very minimum amount of,

2525
2:22:02.715 --> 2:22:06.040
I mean, y'all represented us very well at the board meeting.

2526
2:22:06.040 --> 2:22:09.080
And I'm just proud of the fact that we can say that,

2527
2:22:10.230 --> 2:22:11.760
in a very polite way.

2528
2:22:14.740 --> 2:22:15.760
Yes, Ms. Perez.

2529
2:22:17.363 --> 2:22:20.550
I would like to repeat how very disgusted I am

2530
2:22:20.550 --> 2:22:24.798
by this action and how very shameful I find this to be.

2531
2:22:24.798 --> 2:22:29.400
And I encourage all of my colleagues on this board

2532
2:22:29.400 --> 2:22:32.650
to work very actively in your delegations

2533
2:22:32.650 --> 2:22:37.517
across the state to correct this very egregious error.

2534
2:22:44.100 --> 2:22:45.420
All right, all those in favor

2535
2:22:45.420 --> 2:22:47.840
of authorizing the board chair

2536
2:22:47.840 --> 2:22:52.290
to forward that letter to the state land board say "aye."

2537
2:22:52.290 --> 2:22:53.420
Aye.

2538
2:22:53.420 --> 2:22:54.770
All those opposed say no.

2539
2:22:55.760 --> 2:22:57.309
Okay, the motion is adopted.

2540
2:22:57.309 --> 2:23:01.118
You know, members, I just wanna say

2541
2:23:01.118 --> 2:23:05.180
this is an unprecedented action of the board

2542
2:23:05.180 --> 2:23:10.180
as a unanimous signatory, to be a unanimous signatories

2543
2:23:10.240 --> 2:23:14.110
on a letter to a different agency than our own.

2544
2:23:14.110 --> 2:23:17.710
But this unprecedented event

2545
2:23:20.050 --> 2:23:21.740
was incredibly significant.

2546
2:23:21.740 --> 2:23:24.407
It's the first time in the 160 plus years

2547
2:23:24.407 --> 2:23:27.582
of the PS, the Permanent School Fund

2548
2:23:27.582 --> 2:23:30.307
by the State Board of Education,

2549
2:23:30.307 --> 2:23:33.108
our piece of the Permanent School Fund.

2550
2:23:33.108 --> 2:23:37.010
Which is 75, Holland's not here.

2551
2:23:37.010 --> 2:23:39.950
What is the percentage of the school fund that we manage?

2552
2:23:39.950 --> 2:23:40.783
What is, David?

2553
2:23:40.783 --> 2:23:42.414
Do you know of the top of your head?

2554
2:23:42.414 --> 2:23:43.417
Is it 75?

2555
2:23:43.417 --> 2:23:44.780
34 ad dives, seven to 34,

2556
2:23:44.780 --> 2:23:45.728
whatever that would be.

2557
2:23:45.728 --> 2:23:49.026
70, are we 75% of the fund?

2558
2:23:49.026 --> 2:23:51.668
34 billion to seven billion.

2559
2:23:51.668 --> 2:23:52.640
(speaking with no mic)

2560
2:23:52.640 --> 2:23:53.473
Yeah, okay.

2561
2:23:54.330 --> 2:23:57.280
Regardless, what I'm saying is the failure

2562
2:23:57.280 --> 2:24:00.165
to receive these new funds from Texas Land

2563
2:24:00.165 --> 2:24:04.540
has never happened in the 160 plus years of existence

2564
2:24:04.540 --> 2:24:06.520
of the state land board.

2565
2:24:06.520 --> 2:24:09.280
And so this unprecedented event calls

2566
2:24:09.280 --> 2:24:11.986
for an unprecedented response and the board

2567
2:24:11.986 --> 2:24:14.884
wants to deliver a strong message that

2568
2:24:14.884 --> 2:24:18.890
these children and these classrooms, this upcoming biennium

2569
2:24:18.890 --> 2:24:22.140
deserve this money to be distributed to the board

2570
2:24:22.140 --> 2:24:24.030
so that we can send it on in the November

2571
2:24:24.030 --> 2:24:25.330
when we do our final vote.

2572
2:24:26.530 --> 2:24:27.480
Thank you, members.

2573
2:24:30.850 --> 2:24:31.683
Next item.

2574
2:24:33.090 --> 2:24:35.490
We're gonna take a break before our,

2575
2:24:35.490 --> 2:24:38.170
is that all you had to share, Mr. Bradley?

2576
2:24:38.170 --> 2:24:41.060
We're gonna take a quick break before testimony.

2577
2:24:41.060 --> 2:24:43.930
Members have asked that we take just a quick break,

2578
2:24:43.930 --> 2:24:46.630
just 10 minutes, literally, and we'll be right back.

2579
2:24:51.950 --> 2:24:54.700
Due to some of that, we had some obligations

2580
2:24:54.700 --> 2:24:56.980
that some of our members needed to take,

2581
2:24:56.980 --> 2:24:59.680
and to leave and so I wanna get you all through

2582
2:24:59.680 --> 2:25:01.340
all those important votes.

2583
2:25:01.340 --> 2:25:03.769
And so we appreciate your indulgence.

2584
2:25:03.769 --> 2:25:06.490
I do not have my testifier's list.

2585
2:25:06.490 --> 2:25:07.790
It got lost in my thing.

2586
2:25:07.790 --> 2:25:09.659
Do we have another list or?

2587
2:25:09.659 --> 2:25:11.859
Sorry, I don't even know how many we've got.

2588
2:25:13.670 --> 2:25:14.970
Okay, thank you.

2589
2:25:14.970 --> 2:25:18.000
It's in here, I just can't find it.

2590
2:25:18.000 --> 2:25:19.660
Fantastic.

2591
2:25:19.660 --> 2:25:22.462
So we'll, again, our testifiers can testify

2592
2:25:22.462 --> 2:25:27.170
for three minutes and you'll hear the first bell

2593
2:25:27.170 --> 2:25:30.720
with one ding will be 30 seconds before

2594
2:25:30.720 --> 2:25:33.663
the end of your time and then you'll hear a second bell

2595
2:25:33.663 --> 2:25:36.320
that'll ding twice and that is the end.

2596
2:25:36.320 --> 2:25:38.939
And if you'll just give us your final thoughts

2597
2:25:38.939 --> 2:25:41.040
and then the board will be

2598
2:25:42.760 --> 2:25:46.240
free to offer any questions and have further discussion.

2599
2:25:49.650 --> 2:25:52.370
Janette Lafeavers, followed by Margaret Davis.

2600
2:25:55.430 --> 2:25:57.760
Are we able to reverse those?

2601
2:25:57.760 --> 2:25:58.884
Oh, absolutely, yeah.

2602
2:25:58.884 --> 2:26:00.010
But say your name.

2603
2:26:00.900 --> 2:26:02.100
I'm Janette Lafeavers.

2604
2:26:03.250 --> 2:26:05.318
And I'm Margaret Davis.

2605
2:26:05.318 --> 2:26:06.151
And if...

2606
2:26:11.570 --> 2:26:12.540
Sorry.

2607
2:26:13.400 --> 2:26:14.750
Thank you all very much.

2608
2:26:16.060 --> 2:26:18.320
You are receiving two handouts.

2609
2:26:18.320 --> 2:26:20.320
If you will look at the one that has

2610
2:26:20.320 --> 2:26:23.170
the Texas IB School letterhead at the top.

2611
2:26:24.980 --> 2:26:28.410
I'd like to just reference that for a moment, please.

2612
2:26:29.690 --> 2:26:34.170
Let me give Ms. Ramos a moment to get it all passed out.

2613
2:26:34.170 --> 2:26:36.960
Thank you on behalf of the students

2614
2:26:36.960 --> 2:26:38.700
for all the good work that you're doing.

2615
2:26:38.700 --> 2:26:42.610
It was exciting to hear that TOK is in place

2616
2:26:42.610 --> 2:26:44.290
for the next five years.

2617
2:26:44.290 --> 2:26:46.940
I know our schools and our students are very

2618
2:26:46.940 --> 2:26:49.854
grateful for that action that you took today.

2619
2:26:49.854 --> 2:26:54.854
The first two bullets are a summary

2620
2:26:56.800 --> 2:26:59.430
from the conversations on Wednesday.

2621
2:26:59.430 --> 2:27:01.774
So I know that we cannot testify about that,

2622
2:27:01.774 --> 2:27:06.610
but I should have added to those the request

2623
2:27:06.610 --> 2:27:10.640
that you consider when you address IB film

2624
2:27:10.640 --> 2:27:15.010
that you also address the other updating the credits

2625
2:27:15.010 --> 2:27:17.370
for the other IB fine arts.

2626
2:27:17.370 --> 2:27:20.315
We did review last night the current PEIMS code

2627
2:27:20.315 --> 2:27:24.290
and when the fine arts are completed,

2628
2:27:24.290 --> 2:27:29.290
then the students will have the teams numbers

2629
2:27:29.670 --> 2:27:33.090
and credits that they need for their IB courses.

2630
2:27:33.090 --> 2:27:35.610
And for that we are most grateful.

2631
2:27:35.610 --> 2:27:38.660
I would like to spend most of my time talking

2632
2:27:38.660 --> 2:27:42.340
about the third bullet because recent actions

2633
2:27:42.340 --> 2:27:46.090
have created an unintended consequence.

2634
2:27:46.090 --> 2:27:50.110
When the IB language and literature

2635
2:27:50.110 --> 2:27:55.110
and the IB literature courses were updated to two credits,

2636
2:27:55.401 --> 2:27:58.320
language was included that would,

2637
2:27:58.320 --> 2:28:03.240
that said that those courses, when they receive two credits

2638
2:28:03.240 --> 2:28:07.340
will only count as one graduation requirement.

2639
2:28:07.340 --> 2:28:11.230
That has created for our students in Texas this year,

2640
2:28:11.230 --> 2:28:15.610
our seniors, the unintended consequence of not

2641
2:28:15.610 --> 2:28:19.870
having enough English credits for graduation.

2642
2:28:19.870 --> 2:28:23.114
So we have a student who was a junior last year

2643
2:28:23.114 --> 2:28:27.990
taking IB literature, a two year course, higher level.

2644
2:28:27.990 --> 2:28:30.379
So in their senior year they're in the second year,

2645
2:28:30.379 --> 2:28:34.100
but the two credits would just count under

2646
2:28:34.100 --> 2:28:39.100
the current language, for the English three credit.

2647
2:28:39.440 --> 2:28:43.430
So what we would like to request is that the language

2648
2:28:43.430 --> 2:28:47.146
be changed to say, IB language and literature

2649
2:28:47.146 --> 2:28:50.859
or IB literature, those are the two courses,

2650
2:28:50.859 --> 2:28:55.859
taken over two years will, may count as English three

2651
2:28:57.087 --> 2:29:00.660
and English four graduation requirements.

2652
2:29:02.079 --> 2:29:07.079
And as that is rectified, considering giving guidance

2653
2:29:08.630 --> 2:29:10.780
to the school for this year.

2654
2:29:10.780 --> 2:29:14.123
The other thing that we would like to ask you to address,

2655
2:29:14.123 --> 2:29:18.367
is again, the unintended consequence of the language

2656
2:29:18.367 --> 2:29:21.600
where the course taken over two years

2657
2:29:21.600 --> 2:29:24.270
only counts as one graduation requirement

2658
2:29:24.270 --> 2:29:29.130
on the ability of IB students to qualify for endorsements.

2659
2:29:29.130 --> 2:29:31.740
If you would look at say, biology, the students

2660
2:29:31.740 --> 2:29:33.940
would have taken in their freshman year.

2661
2:29:33.940 --> 2:29:37.380
The high school level biology in their sophomore year,

2662
2:29:37.380 --> 2:29:39.290
chemistry most likely.

2663
2:29:39.290 --> 2:29:42.120
In their junior and senior years, not they're past

2664
2:29:42.120 --> 2:29:44.280
the high school level and they're taking

2665
2:29:44.280 --> 2:29:48.127
the IB biology course, but it won't qualify

2666
2:29:48.127 --> 2:29:52.320
as the third science credit and then in the senior year

2667
2:29:52.320 --> 2:29:54.410
when they're going into more depth,

2668
2:29:54.410 --> 2:29:58.300
qualify as that fourth science credit for the endorsement.

2669
2:29:58.300 --> 2:30:01.186
And we do believe this is an unintended consequence

2670
2:30:01.186 --> 2:30:04.280
that could be easily rectified.

2671
2:30:05.630 --> 2:30:08.770
To follow up on that, I've given you an example of

2672
2:30:10.523 --> 2:30:12.660
a summary of physics.

2673
2:30:12.660 --> 2:30:16.700
As you know, I was an AP and then followed up

2674
2:30:16.700 --> 2:30:20.060
by that with a, as an IB physics teacher.

2675
2:30:20.060 --> 2:30:23.050
And I wanted to compare the material

2676
2:30:23.050 --> 2:30:25.880
that was covered in the credits that are offered.

2677
2:30:25.880 --> 2:30:29.179
Prior to 2013 the advance placement physics was known as,

2678
2:30:29.179 --> 2:30:34.179
one of the advance placement courses was known as physics B.

2679
2:30:34.410 --> 2:30:37.340
And I've listed one, two, three, four, five topics

2680
2:30:37.340 --> 2:30:38.173
that were taught.

2681
2:30:38.173 --> 2:30:40.360
That was course was taught and was granted

2682
2:30:40.360 --> 2:30:44.340
one credit and one graduation credit.

2683
2:30:44.340 --> 2:30:47.728
In 2013, because of the amount of content,

2684
2:30:47.728 --> 2:30:52.728
the college board divided that course into two

2685
2:30:54.010 --> 2:30:56.320
and I've shown you how they divided the course today.

2686
2:30:56.320 --> 2:31:01.200
This is the current guide for advanced placement physics.

2687
2:31:01.200 --> 2:31:04.050
They now call it physics one and physics two.

2688
2:31:04.050 --> 2:31:07.516
As I understand it, a student can take physics one,

2689
2:31:07.516 --> 2:31:11.810
get a credit, AP physics one, get a credit.

2690
2:31:11.810 --> 2:31:13.739
Have that count as a graduation requirement.

2691
2:31:13.739 --> 2:31:18.476
And also take AP physics two, get a credit,

2692
2:31:18.476 --> 2:31:22.180
and have that count as another graduation requirement.

2693
2:31:22.180 --> 2:31:26.310
When you compare that to the IB physics, SL and HL,

2694
2:31:26.310 --> 2:31:28.790
you'll see all of the content is there.

2695
2:31:28.790 --> 2:31:31.510
Students take these courses over two years.

2696
2:31:31.510 --> 2:31:33.778
They're granted two credits, but only given

2697
2:31:33.778 --> 2:31:36.936
one graduation requirement.

2698
2:31:36.936 --> 2:31:41.830
As Margaret mentioned to the, for instance,

2699
2:31:41.830 --> 2:31:45.051
on the endorsements, the multi disciplinary endorsement,

2700
2:31:45.051 --> 2:31:48.600
as I understand it requires four sciences,

2701
2:31:48.600 --> 2:31:52.070
four maths, four Social Studies, four English.

2702
2:31:52.070 --> 2:31:54.610
And because those courses are only getting

2703
2:31:54.610 --> 2:31:57.099
that one graduation requirement, it would be,

2704
2:31:57.099 --> 2:32:00.530
the students would have to take an addition course

2705
2:32:00.530 --> 2:32:04.630
in all of those after already completing the TEKS

2706
2:32:04.630 --> 2:32:07.810
based course, course material plus.

2707
2:32:07.810 --> 2:32:10.660
So we think that that is inequitable

2708
2:32:10.660 --> 2:32:12.810
and we think that that was not your intent.

2709
2:32:12.810 --> 2:32:13.643
Thank you.

2710
2:32:15.726 --> 2:32:19.290
Yes, Mr. Maynard

2711
2:32:19.290 --> 2:32:21.070
So my recollection now is is that,

2712
2:32:21.070 --> 2:32:25.420
so but how it's coded is that,

2713
2:32:25.420 --> 2:32:28.621
like for instance the English is coded as a single

2714
2:32:28.621 --> 2:32:31.680
two year class, with two credits.

2715
2:32:31.680 --> 2:32:32.932
That's right.

2716
2:32:32.932 --> 2:32:35.532
But because it's one class, it's being,

2717
2:32:35.532 --> 2:32:38.749
as meeting one graduation requirement.

2718
2:32:38.749 --> 2:32:40.260
Correct.

2719
2:32:40.260 --> 2:32:44.647
Right, so that unintended consequence grew out

2720
2:32:44.647 --> 2:32:47.630
of the additional language that was included

2721
2:32:47.630 --> 2:32:50.380
in the summer update for these courses.

2722
2:32:51.341 --> 2:32:55.170
So let me ask you, I'm just gonna ask just a what if

2723
2:32:55.170 --> 2:32:59.564
question and I'm just thinking about how to solve this thing

2724
2:32:59.564 --> 2:33:03.430
is that, is it then,

2725
2:33:03.430 --> 2:33:08.270
would it be possible to code that as,

2726
2:33:08.270 --> 2:33:10.800
to split it where you have a part one and a part two,

2727
2:33:10.800 --> 2:33:13.220
but in order to be in part two, you have to be in part one.

2728
2:33:13.220 --> 2:33:14.880
In other words, you can't enroll in part two

2729
2:33:14.880 --> 2:33:16.430
unless you've been in part one.

2730
2:33:16.430 --> 2:33:20.550
And I guess then the other question then is that,

2731
2:33:21.600 --> 2:33:26.210
how do you know then if you,

2732
2:33:26.210 --> 2:33:28.470
assuming that the English class,

2733
2:33:28.470 --> 2:33:31.880
if you want it to count for English three and English four,

2734
2:33:32.732 --> 2:33:34.920
does that square with the TEKS.

2735
2:33:34.920 --> 2:33:38.380
Can you cross walks the TEKS for both of those

2736
2:33:38.380 --> 2:33:40.480
because three and four, I guess I think this is

2737
2:33:40.480 --> 2:33:42.080
my understanding, I mean that's,

2738
2:33:43.260 --> 2:33:45.140
assuming that might be legislative.

2739
2:33:45.140 --> 2:33:50.140
But do the TEKS square across there for three and four?

2740
2:33:51.820 --> 2:33:54.233
Yes, and that's been in place.

2741
2:33:54.233 --> 2:33:58.800
The students using IB literature or language

2742
2:33:58.800 --> 2:34:00.610
and literature for English three cred

2743
2:34:00.610 --> 2:34:04.500
and English four credit has been in place forever.

2744
2:34:04.500 --> 2:34:06.820
This is the first time we've had any problem with that

2745
2:34:06.820 --> 2:34:09.707
and really we believe it's just the unintended consequence

2746
2:34:09.707 --> 2:34:13.320
of the language when things were updated this summer.

2747
2:34:13.320 --> 2:34:17.209
And the fact that the problem arose because

2748
2:34:17.209 --> 2:34:20.661
there's two credits, but one PEIMS number.

2749
2:34:20.661 --> 2:34:25.661
So if in the PEIMS code, it has been like say,

2750
2:34:25.820 --> 2:34:30.820
the IB computer science higher level,

2751
2:34:30.960 --> 2:34:33.230
this computer science higher level and it has

2752
2:34:33.230 --> 2:34:35.900
one PEIMS math credit, so you would use that,

2753
2:34:35.900 --> 2:34:37.420
say in your junior year.

2754
2:34:37.420 --> 2:34:41.709
Computer science, higher level, one credit, LOT credit

2755
2:34:41.709 --> 2:34:45.450
in your senior year because higher level IB courses

2756
2:34:45.450 --> 2:34:48.440
must go over two years.

2757
2:34:48.440 --> 2:34:52.150
And the students would be taking a minimum

2758
2:34:52.150 --> 2:34:55.390
of four courses across the two years.

2759
2:34:55.390 --> 2:34:57.450
And they're always gonna take the language

2760
2:34:57.450 --> 2:34:59.870
and literature or literature.

2761
2:34:59.870 --> 2:35:02.860
We just think because it has been in place for so long,

2762
2:35:02.860 --> 2:35:05.370
it was just the unintended consequence

2763
2:35:05.370 --> 2:35:07.570
of the revision of the language last summer.

2764
2:35:10.720 --> 2:35:12.215
Preliminary inquiry.

2765
2:35:12.215 --> 2:35:13.783
Yes.

2766
2:35:13.783 --> 2:35:15.990
Question for Von.

2767
2:35:15.990 --> 2:35:19.040
In the Texas Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551042,

2768
2:35:19.040 --> 2:35:21.298
does that, that's the situation where we can only

2769
2:35:21.298 --> 2:35:23.390
ask for clarifying information.

2770
2:35:23.390 --> 2:35:24.370
We can't get into discussion.

2771
2:35:24.370 --> 2:35:28.260
Does that change if this item was on the agenda previously,

2772
2:35:28.260 --> 2:35:29.520
or is that still apply?

2773
2:35:31.760 --> 2:35:34.580
In other parts of today's agenda or this week's agenda.

2774
2:35:35.870 --> 2:35:38.030
I think the relevant thing is if it's on

2775
2:35:38.030 --> 2:35:39.220
the agenda for today.

2776
2:35:40.199 --> 2:35:42.340
Okay, okay.

2777
2:35:49.770 --> 2:35:52.050
(speaking with no mic)

2778
2:35:52.050 --> 2:35:54.762
Oh yes, Ms. Hardy had one more question.

2779
2:35:54.762 --> 2:35:56.890
This is talking about unintended consequences.

2780
2:35:56.890 --> 2:35:59.470
I heard from someone in the Houston ISD,

2781
2:36:03.200 --> 2:36:06.210
Bel-Air area, and that's one of your largest programs.

2782
2:36:06.210 --> 2:36:09.040
Did y'all get everything worked out with the

2783
2:36:09.040 --> 2:36:13.920
Houston ISD and the unintended consequences of your stuff?

2784
2:36:13.920 --> 2:36:18.540
Right, we're having to help districts figure out

2785
2:36:18.540 --> 2:36:22.590
what their local solution is going to be.

2786
2:36:22.590 --> 2:36:26.290
In some cases, sadly, they're using an AP number now

2787
2:36:26.290 --> 2:36:27.953
for the second year.

2788
2:36:27.953 --> 2:36:31.121
In some districts, they are maybe going to have to

2789
2:36:31.121 --> 2:36:36.050
keep kids co-seated in English four and the second

2790
2:36:36.050 --> 2:36:39.470
year of the IB, and so it would show on their

2791
2:36:39.470 --> 2:36:41.850
transcripts that they were doing both in the same

2792
2:36:41.850 --> 2:36:46.150
session at the same time to document that

2793
2:36:46.150 --> 2:36:48.320
fourth year of English.

2794
2:36:48.320 --> 2:36:52.281
But it did just arise when the codes were updated

2795
2:36:52.281 --> 2:36:54.770
and the language came our during the summer.

2796
2:36:54.770 --> 2:36:56.320
Okay, thank you.

2797
2:37:00.980 --> 2:37:03.730
Randy Hutchins, followed by John Pendergraph.

2798
2:37:05.605 --> 2:37:10.605
John didn't make it today.

2799
2:37:32.490 --> 2:37:35.200
As most of you know, I'm that crazy engineer dad

2800
2:37:35.200 --> 2:37:38.620
that has been coming to testify since November of 2014,

2801
2:37:38.620 --> 2:37:42.270
almost four years, regarding the math TEK.

2802
2:37:42.270 --> 2:37:44.780
My name is Randy Hutchins, a mechanical engineer

2803
2:37:44.780 --> 2:37:47.350
and practical user of mathematics.

2804
2:37:47.350 --> 2:37:50.546
It has been 17 months since I have testified to this board.

2805
2:37:50.546 --> 2:37:53.541
In April of 2017, all but five of you

2806
2:37:53.541 --> 2:37:57.980
decided to not take action and start fixing the math TEKS.

2807
2:37:57.980 --> 2:38:01.670
Thank you Mr. Bradley, Mr. Mercer, Ms. Cargill,

2808
2:38:01.670 --> 2:38:04.010
Mr. Maynard, and Ms. Miller,

2809
2:38:04.010 --> 2:38:06.480
for having the courage to vote in favor

2810
2:38:06.480 --> 2:38:08.785
of Texas students and parents that want better

2811
2:38:08.785 --> 2:38:11.160
education for their children.

2812
2:38:12.340 --> 2:38:14.928
For the rest of you, how far have we come

2813
2:38:14.928 --> 2:38:17.890
in math education as a result of the inaction

2814
2:38:17.890 --> 2:38:19.980
of the board of education?

2815
2:38:19.980 --> 2:38:22.930
Let's look at the results of the TA Star assessments

2816
2:38:22.930 --> 2:38:24.950
by reviewing the minimum passing scores.

2817
2:38:27.020 --> 2:38:30.220
So the two graphs that I've got for you

2818
2:38:31.260 --> 2:38:34.290
summarize minimum passing scores.

2819
2:38:35.590 --> 2:38:40.590
For the 2017/18 school year, 50% is passing in third grade.

2820
2:38:41.214 --> 2:38:44.289
50% is passing in fourth grade.

2821
2:38:44.289 --> 2:38:48.220
47% is passing in fifth grade.

2822
2:38:48.220 --> 2:38:52.337
36.8% is passing in sixth grade.

2823
2:38:52.337 --> 2:38:55.080
40% in seventh grade.

2824
2:38:55.080 --> 2:38:57.375
45% in eighth grade.

2825
2:38:57.375 --> 2:39:01.130
37% in algebra one in the fall.

2826
2:39:01.130 --> 2:39:05.185
And 35%, algebra one in the spring.

2827
2:39:05.185 --> 2:39:08.110
And 36% for algebra two in the spring.

2828
2:39:09.055 --> 2:39:11.580
These are not good scores.

2829
2:39:16.950 --> 2:39:20.180
Why are the minimum passing scores not increasing

2830
2:39:20.180 --> 2:39:23.340
if the new math TEKS implemented in 2014

2831
2:39:23.340 --> 2:39:25.610
are so much better than the traditional math?

2832
2:39:26.850 --> 2:39:29.110
Those of you on this board that chose to do nothing

2833
2:39:29.110 --> 2:39:31.160
will need to answer to your constituents.

2834
2:39:32.220 --> 2:39:34.320
You have failed a generation of Texas students

2835
2:39:34.320 --> 2:39:36.570
by not taking action to correct the TEKS.

2836
2:39:37.630 --> 2:39:39.780
If you wanna see where Texas is headed,

2837
2:39:39.780 --> 2:39:42.060
all you need to do is look at California

2838
2:39:42.060 --> 2:39:44.720
as they are a couple years ahead of Texas.

2839
2:39:44.720 --> 2:39:47.620
I have been using freedom of information I could request

2840
2:39:47.620 --> 2:39:50.780
and requesting this same data for districts across Texas

2841
2:39:50.780 --> 2:39:54.060
and so far the trends match the data.

2842
2:39:55.657 --> 2:39:57.407
And that's shown on this next page.

2843
2:39:58.987 --> 2:40:02.410
This is enrollment algebra one in eighth grade.

2844
2:40:03.750 --> 2:40:06.840
The nose dive that California has seen,

2845
2:40:06.840 --> 2:40:09.490
we will see this same nose die in the next two years.

2846
2:40:12.396 --> 2:40:16.000
How far will we let Texas students fall

2847
2:40:16.000 --> 2:40:17.850
before taking action?

2848
2:40:17.850 --> 2:40:20.490
And I've gone through every Star assessment

2849
2:40:20.490 --> 2:40:23.210
from 2014 through 2018.

2850
2:40:23.210 --> 2:40:25.160
And the tests are getting easier.

2851
2:40:26.780 --> 2:40:30.380
So our passing scores are staying roughly the same

2852
2:40:32.730 --> 2:40:34.380
and the tests are getting easier.

2853
2:40:37.815 --> 2:40:41.370
(speaking with no mic)

2854
2:40:41.370 --> 2:40:42.600
That's all.

2855
2:40:43.499 --> 2:40:45.260
Any questions for Mr. Hutchins.

2856
2:40:47.758 --> 2:40:48.800
Could I ask a question.

2857
2:40:48.800 --> 2:40:51.087
Randy, did you go into detail about the percentage

2858
2:40:51.087 --> 2:40:54.539
of the process skills tested and could you give an example?

2859
2:40:54.539 --> 2:40:56.770
Okay.

2860
2:40:56.770 --> 2:40:58.063
In this latest test, right?

2861
2:40:58.063 --> 2:40:59.220
Okay.

2862
2:41:05.490 --> 2:41:07.640
I meant to add this in the report, but...

2863
2:41:09.260 --> 2:41:11.790
It got too late for me to put it in.

2864
2:41:11.790 --> 2:41:15.080
41% of the questions on the third grade test

2865
2:41:15.080 --> 2:41:18.780
are testing process, not mathematics, just process.

2866
2:41:19.690 --> 2:41:20.940
41%.

2867
2:41:20.940 --> 2:41:23.810
24 in fourth grade.

2868
2:41:25.071 --> 2:41:27.970
14% in fifth grade.

2869
2:41:27.970 --> 2:41:30.750
18% in sixth grade.

2870
2:41:30.750 --> 2:41:32.526
10% in seventh grade.

2871
2:41:32.526 --> 2:41:35.860
10% in eighth grade and two percent in algebra.

2872
2:41:38.420 --> 2:41:40.560
But 40% in third grade.

2873
2:41:40.560 --> 2:41:43.060
And look, our third grade scores aren't improving.

2874
2:41:44.610 --> 2:41:45.570
Tests are getting easier.

2875
2:41:45.570 --> 2:41:48.250
We're testing process, not mathematics

2876
2:41:48.250 --> 2:41:49.790
and the scores aren't improving.

2877
2:41:55.970 --> 2:41:58.670
Any other questions about the information?

2878
2:41:58.670 --> 2:41:59.503
Yes, Mr. Mercer.

2879
2:41:59.503 --> 2:42:01.670
Let's just stick to this specific information

2880
2:42:01.670 --> 2:42:04.740
because again, we're not supposed to talk about math

2881
2:42:04.740 --> 2:42:06.790
and so we wanna just stick right to,

2882
2:42:06.790 --> 2:42:08.320
right straight to any question.

2883
2:42:08.320 --> 2:42:09.910
Additionally can you define a member,

2884
2:42:09.910 --> 2:42:11.430
I remember from the base, but the difference

2885
2:42:11.430 --> 2:42:12.830
between process versus math.

2886
2:42:14.260 --> 2:42:18.394
Process is recognizing a picture or recognizing

2887
2:42:18.394 --> 2:42:22.870
a method of solving a problem, not actually doing the math.

2888
2:42:23.780 --> 2:42:26.470
That's what I mean by testing a process.

2889
2:42:26.470 --> 2:42:29.150
In the real world, I'll stop this,

2890
2:42:29.150 --> 2:42:31.060
Do they ask you, do your bosses ask you

2891
2:42:31.060 --> 2:42:32.560
how you did it or did you get the right answer?

2892
2:42:32.560 --> 2:42:33.890
Which is more important?

2893
2:42:33.890 --> 2:42:34.930
Getting the right answer.

2894
2:42:34.930 --> 2:42:37.740
If I get the wrong answer, it could kill people.

2895
2:42:38.680 --> 2:42:40.930
And that's true in almost every industry.

2896
2:42:42.770 --> 2:42:44.400
Any other questions about the data

2897
2:42:44.400 --> 2:42:46.730
that Randy presented today?

2898
2:42:46.730 --> 2:42:48.590
Mr. Maynard and then Ms. Perez.

2899
2:42:51.190 --> 2:42:53.000
Appreciate your passion

2900
2:42:53.000 --> 2:42:56.590
and you are my constituent and I know that this

2901
2:42:56.590 --> 2:42:58.310
is a real passion of yours, but the idea of one

2902
2:42:58.310 --> 2:43:00.454
question for you is that when you say that

2903
2:43:00.454 --> 2:43:03.150
the questions are getting easier,

2904
2:43:03.150 --> 2:43:06.540
can you just tell us just briefly about the methodology

2905
2:43:06.540 --> 2:43:09.630
in terms of how you arrived at that conclusion.

2906
2:43:09.630 --> 2:43:11.920
Well having taken all the tests, I can see

2907
2:43:11.920 --> 2:43:15.094
and I judge it based on the type of question being asked

2908
2:43:15.094 --> 2:43:18.830
and how quickly I can actually do these tests.

2909
2:43:18.830 --> 2:43:20.250
I see from

2910
2:43:21.990 --> 2:43:26.990
2017 to 2018, the tests this year took me 10 minutes less

2911
2:43:27.461 --> 2:43:30.040
on each test, roughly.

2912
2:43:31.014 --> 2:43:34.600
You can look at some of these and they don't require

2913
2:43:34.600 --> 2:43:37.970
any calculation, it's just process.

2914
2:43:40.080 --> 2:43:42.190
I see the impact this is having on kids

2915
2:43:42.190 --> 2:43:44.880
because I'm tutoring kids from seventh grade,

2916
2:43:44.880 --> 2:43:47.630
eighth grade, algebra one, algebra two, geometry,

2917
2:43:47.630 --> 2:43:49.570
all the way up through pre-calculus.

2918
2:43:49.570 --> 2:43:51.970
And I see the impact this is having on the kids.

2919
2:43:54.170 --> 2:43:56.000
And just as a follow up, so what you're saying is then

2920
2:43:56.000 --> 2:44:00.040
is that the number of questions requiring any sort

2921
2:44:00.040 --> 2:44:05.040
of computation versus questions that just require

2922
2:44:05.529 --> 2:44:09.260
a student to recognize a particular representation?

2923
2:44:09.260 --> 2:44:10.597
Right.

2924
2:44:10.597 --> 2:44:13.060
So the number of questions that are just about

2925
2:44:13.060 --> 2:44:16.000
representation of something have increased.

2926
2:44:16.000 --> 2:44:18.070
And the number of questions that require some sort

2927
2:44:18.070 --> 2:44:19.920
of computation have been reduced?

2928
2:44:19.920 --> 2:44:20.753
Decreased, yes.

2929
2:44:20.753 --> 2:44:24.310
Okay, thank you.

2930
2:44:25.660 --> 2:44:26.870
Ms. Perez, I think had,

2931
2:44:26.870 --> 2:44:28.250
did you have a question or no?

2932
2:44:28.250 --> 2:44:29.720
Okay, and then Ms. Miller.

2933
2:44:30.738 --> 2:44:33.240
Mr. Hutchins, I would like to know,

2934
2:44:33.240 --> 2:44:36.606
the data that I'm looking at on this chart, the colors,

2935
2:44:36.606 --> 2:44:40.580
is this your data only or where are you getting

2936
2:44:40.580 --> 2:44:42.051
this data from because I'm wondering--

2937
2:44:42.051 --> 2:44:47.051
This is directly from the TEA sites.

2938
2:44:47.710 --> 2:44:48.560
So if you look at

2939
2:44:52.120 --> 2:44:54.240
the raw cut scores that are posted,

2940
2:44:54.240 --> 2:44:55.350
I don't think I have copies of those.

2941
2:44:55.350 --> 2:44:57.420
I meant to put those in here.

2942
2:44:57.420 --> 2:45:00.210
But if you go to the TEA website and look for

2943
2:45:00.210 --> 2:45:03.180
raw conversion tables, this data is pulled

2944
2:45:03.180 --> 2:45:04.130
directly from that.

2945
2:45:06.890 --> 2:45:09.450
Did you share this with TEA just to confirm

2946
2:45:09.450 --> 2:45:10.980
that the data is accurate?

2947
2:45:10.980 --> 2:45:12.795
Well it's from their website.

2948
2:45:12.795 --> 2:45:14.460
I would assume that it would be accurate.

2949
2:45:16.310 --> 2:45:17.143
Thank you.

2950
2:45:18.968 --> 2:45:21.468
And yes, Ms. Miller.

2951
2:45:24.780 --> 2:45:27.910
First of all, thank you for coming back

2952
2:45:27.910 --> 2:45:29.580
and coming back and coming back.

2953
2:45:32.502 --> 2:45:35.960
I think what we've got is a common core math issue.

2954
2:45:35.960 --> 2:45:37.650
And don't you agree?

2955
2:45:37.650 --> 2:45:38.630
Absolutely.

2956
2:45:39.572 --> 2:45:41.330
And that was, anyway,

2957
2:45:41.330 --> 2:45:46.330
I won't go back, but I remember that was the first

2958
2:45:46.370 --> 2:45:49.680
thing that hit me when I came back to the board

2959
2:45:49.680 --> 2:45:53.500
because math had been developed while I was gone.

2960
2:45:53.500 --> 2:45:56.630
And then the books written, anyway.

2961
2:45:56.630 --> 2:46:00.580
But you and your group did the most incredible research

2962
2:46:00.580 --> 2:46:04.290
on this whole issue and I hear you now saying,

2963
2:46:04.290 --> 2:46:06.160
that you're tutoring these kids.

2964
2:46:06.160 --> 2:46:07.270
Yeah, free of charge, by the way.

2965
2:46:07.270 --> 2:46:10.646
I haven't made a dime off of any of this math reform.

2966
2:46:10.646 --> 2:46:12.515
Okay, all right.

2967
2:46:12.515 --> 2:46:16.760
Anyway, I assume math is coming up again.

2968
2:46:16.760 --> 2:46:21.550
So I'm not sure what the date or whatever it is,

2969
2:46:21.550 --> 2:46:24.640
is coming up, but hopefully,

2970
2:46:24.640 --> 2:46:27.380
I hope that it can be corrected.

2971
2:46:27.380 --> 2:46:29.570
What concerns me is what Dr. Milgram said.

2972
2:46:29.570 --> 2:46:31.748
Kids that are exposed to this type of education in math

2973
2:46:31.748 --> 2:46:35.476
for three to four years never recover.

2974
2:46:35.476 --> 2:46:37.140
Never recover.

2975
2:46:37.140 --> 2:46:38.710
Never, oh.

2976
2:46:38.710 --> 2:46:39.543
Well he was so--

2977
2:46:39.543 --> 2:46:41.364
We're four years in.

2978
2:46:41.364 --> 2:46:42.364
Yeah, okay.

2979
2:46:42.364 --> 2:46:45.100
I was so glad that he came and spoke to us.

2980
2:46:46.149 --> 2:46:47.660
Okay.

2981
2:46:47.660 --> 2:46:49.510
Any other question of Mr. Hutchins?

2982
2:46:50.540 --> 2:46:51.873
Thank you, Randy.

2983
2:46:51.873 --> 2:46:55.560
Thank you.

2984
2:46:55.560 --> 2:46:57.248
That man is brilliant.

2985
2:46:57.248 --> 2:46:58.780
Just brilliant.

2986
2:47:07.680 --> 2:47:09.680
Members, we have one final

2987
2:47:11.554 --> 2:47:14.760
item on our agenda and that is our ethics training.

2988
2:47:14.760 --> 2:47:17.085
Correct, is that the last one?

2989
2:47:17.085 --> 2:47:19.210
I'm trying, yes, yes, absolutely.

2990
2:47:28.900 --> 2:47:30.130
Good afternoon.

2991
2:47:30.130 --> 2:47:32.200
My name is Chris Mask, I'm the ethics advisor

2992
2:47:32.200 --> 2:47:34.410
for the Texas Education Agency.

2993
2:47:34.410 --> 2:47:36.940
Here for your annual ethics training.

2994
2:47:36.940 --> 2:47:39.880
I would note in your materials, page 37.

2995
2:47:39.880 --> 2:47:41.160
Got a lot of really good materials

2996
2:47:41.160 --> 2:47:42.510
from the Ethics Commission.

2997
2:47:43.350 --> 2:47:45.590
They always do really good work.

2998
2:47:45.590 --> 2:47:47.370
They're good reference materials.

2999
2:47:47.370 --> 2:47:48.444
Keep ahold of them.

3000
2:47:48.444 --> 2:47:52.763
But if you have any questions, if you have any on ethics,

3001
2:47:52.763 --> 2:47:54.920
please give me a call.

3002
2:47:54.920 --> 2:47:56.020
Email me.

3003
2:47:56.020 --> 2:47:58.840
I'm always ready to

3004
2:47:59.853 --> 2:48:02.975
take your questions and give you the best advice I can.

3005
2:48:02.975 --> 2:48:06.240
Although one thing I always say is please give me

3006
2:48:06.240 --> 2:48:09.720
hypotheticals in the future and so it's not like,

3007
2:48:09.720 --> 2:48:12.020
I did this, did I violate the law.

3008
2:48:12.020 --> 2:48:16.440
Put it in the future and can hopefully make sure

3009
2:48:16.440 --> 2:48:21.000
that there is no violation of the law.

3010
2:48:21.000 --> 2:48:24.150
Well, this being Friday, I decided it's time for a test.

3011
2:48:25.780 --> 2:48:30.030
Giving you the test questions and on the board

3012
2:48:30.030 --> 2:48:31.680
for people playing along at home.

3013
2:48:33.900 --> 2:48:36.070
So I got these question for y'all.

3014
2:48:36.070 --> 2:48:38.400
First one, board meeting runs late.

3015
2:48:38.400 --> 2:48:39.960
It's eight o'clock.

3016
2:48:39.960 --> 2:48:41.460
You have not had dinner.

3017
2:48:41.460 --> 2:48:43.770
You're walking to your car when a TASB lobbyist

3018
2:48:43.770 --> 2:48:45.890
approaches you and says, I hope I have your vote

3019
2:48:45.890 --> 2:48:47.660
for tomorrow, and you ask what vote is that?

3020
2:48:47.660 --> 2:48:50.240
And you start discussing the issue.

3021
2:48:50.240 --> 2:48:52.710
Lobbyists says, Shultz Beer Garden is just

3022
2:48:52.710 --> 2:48:53.640
around the corner.

3023
2:48:53.640 --> 2:48:56.610
Why don't I buy you dinner, we can discuss this?

3024
2:48:56.610 --> 2:48:59.150
The first question is, can you accept that dinner?

3025
2:49:01.805 --> 2:49:04.383
No.

3026
2:49:04.383 --> 2:49:08.250
(speaking with no mic)

3027
2:49:08.250 --> 2:49:09.520
I think it has to be reported,

3028
2:49:09.520 --> 2:49:11.198
but you can accept it.

3029
2:49:11.198 --> 2:49:14.448
(speaking all at once)

3030
2:49:18.010 --> 2:49:21.580
Well, let's see, if you could hit the microphone

3031
2:49:21.580 --> 2:49:23.861
button so we all could hear because I'm having trouble

3032
2:49:23.861 --> 2:49:25.990
hearing your answers.

3033
2:49:29.970 --> 2:49:32.150
I would say that if I went to dinner,

3034
2:49:32.150 --> 2:49:34.628
I would pay my own way.

3035
2:49:34.628 --> 2:49:36.307
Okay.

3036
2:49:36.307 --> 2:49:38.920
Your invitation to be bought dinner

3037
2:49:38.920 --> 2:49:42.070
is to close to your question about whether

3038
2:49:42.070 --> 2:49:43.370
you're receiving the vote.

3039
2:49:52.160 --> 2:49:55.930
Legally, I think it could accept that dinner.

3040
2:49:58.164 --> 2:50:01.640
The lobbyist is gonna be eating dinner with you.

3041
2:50:01.640 --> 2:50:04.510
Obviously, lobbyists are trying to get you to do something

3042
2:50:04.510 --> 2:50:06.500
and nonetheless, they're buying dinner.

3043
2:50:06.500 --> 2:50:11.500
Now the other question, I think is more interesting

3044
2:50:12.131 --> 2:50:15.700
and you know, should you accept that dinner?

3045
2:50:16.659 --> 2:50:20.750
A lot of things you can do legally, but is this a good idea.

3046
2:50:20.750 --> 2:50:23.985
And Mr. Ellis points out that this might seem

3047
2:50:23.985 --> 2:50:26.388
a little bit too close.

3048
2:50:26.388 --> 2:50:29.570
That's a legitimate consideration.

3049
2:50:29.570 --> 2:50:33.270
Also, if the lobbyist spends more than $75 on you,

3050
2:50:33.270 --> 2:50:35.040
which I doubt he will at Shultz's.

3051
2:50:35.040 --> 2:50:37.750
It's hard to get a dinner that expensive there,

3052
2:50:37.750 --> 2:50:39.780
it's gonna be on his lobbyist report.

3053
2:50:39.780 --> 2:50:42.820
Your name is gonna be on that report.

3054
2:50:43.925 --> 2:50:48.925
If he spends less than $75, he'll just say i spent,

3055
2:50:48.930 --> 2:50:51.760
I bought food for State Board of Education folks

3056
2:50:51.760 --> 2:50:52.660
this past year.

3057
2:50:54.390 --> 2:50:55.840
Those are things to consider.

3058
2:50:56.970 --> 2:50:58.970
Another thing you might consider is the,

3059
2:51:00.660 --> 2:51:03.090
just to throw it in the mix is that,

3060
2:51:04.190 --> 2:51:06.440
so you're gonna have dinner anyway

3061
2:51:07.850 --> 2:51:10.650
and the state of Texas pays for your dinner here, right?

3062
2:51:12.370 --> 2:51:13.950
Well, if the lobbyist pays for your dinner,

3063
2:51:13.950 --> 2:51:16.290
the state of Texas isn't paying for your dinner.

3064
2:51:17.550 --> 2:51:20.770
You might consider that, but also the other things

3065
2:51:20.770 --> 2:51:23.661
that have been mentioned about just how it looks.

3066
2:51:23.661 --> 2:51:27.270
I've heard some board members say, I won't take a cup

3067
2:51:27.270 --> 2:51:29.070
of Starbucks coffee from anybody.

3068
2:51:30.190 --> 2:51:32.070
If somebody wants to talk to me and go to Starbucks,

3069
2:51:32.070 --> 2:51:33.220
I'll buy my own coffee.

3070
2:51:35.522 --> 2:51:39.830
That's a position that you all might wanna take.

3071
2:51:39.830 --> 2:51:41.964
You don't have to take that, I'm just gonna,

3072
2:51:41.964 --> 2:51:46.169
sort of throw in some options out here to think about it

3073
2:51:46.169 --> 2:51:50.030
because I think ethics is a whole lot more than

3074
2:51:50.030 --> 2:51:52.360
let's do the minimum legal requirement and we can,

3075
2:51:52.360 --> 2:51:54.510
as long as we met the minimum legal requirement,

3076
2:51:54.510 --> 2:51:55.343
let's go for it.

3077
2:51:56.250 --> 2:51:58.730
I think we need to think a little bit more about

3078
2:51:58.730 --> 2:52:01.790
actions and you know, legal requirements,

3079
2:52:01.790 --> 2:52:04.640
minimum always comply with the law,

3080
2:52:04.640 --> 2:52:07.400
but you might wanna take it to even a higher standard.

3081
2:52:09.361 --> 2:52:13.600
All right.

3082
2:52:14.780 --> 2:52:16.370
Next question.

3083
2:52:16.370 --> 2:52:19.030
You speak at a local education booster club.

3084
2:52:19.934 --> 2:52:22.000
The club president comes to the podium and thanks you

3085
2:52:22.000 --> 2:52:25.340
for the speech and all your hard work on the SBOE.

3086
2:52:25.340 --> 2:52:28.226
She says here is a little token of our appreciation.

3087
2:52:28.226 --> 2:52:32.040
It's a very nice box of chocolate in a store bag.

3088
2:52:32.040 --> 2:52:34.790
When you look in the bag, you see that the president

3089
2:52:34.790 --> 2:52:37.540
accidentally left the receipt in the bag.

3090
2:52:37.540 --> 2:52:41.520
Price for the chocolates is $49.99.

3091
2:52:41.520 --> 2:52:44.230
First question, can you keep the chocolates?

3092
2:52:46.281 --> 2:52:48.972
(speaking with no mic)

3093
2:52:48.972 --> 2:52:51.222
(laughing)

3094
2:52:53.930 --> 2:52:56.260
Okay, yes and I think that's correct.

3095
2:52:56.260 --> 2:53:00.283
There is a $50, kind of safe harbor provision,

3096
2:53:00.283 --> 2:53:05.283
that you can keep almost all gifts that are less than $50.

3097
2:53:06.470 --> 2:53:11.470
So they just came in right under the threshold.

3098
2:53:11.644 --> 2:53:13.190
You could keep that.

3099
2:53:14.397 --> 2:53:16.420
But that begs the question.

3100
2:53:16.420 --> 2:53:19.850
If it's 49.99, but it says and tax it's $52.

3101
2:53:20.760 --> 2:53:23.244
I mean, seriously, it comes to that kind of threshold,

3102
2:53:23.244 --> 2:53:25.390
is it gross or net?

3103
2:53:27.200 --> 2:53:28.600
You know, I really don't know the answer

3104
2:53:28.600 --> 2:53:31.280
to that question, but I'll find the answer to that

3105
2:53:31.280 --> 2:53:35.890
and get that to you if we consider tax or not.

3106
2:53:35.890 --> 2:53:38.210
Because the tax might even go back to the state.

3107
2:53:38.210 --> 2:53:39.492
I'll stop there.

3108
2:53:39.492 --> 2:53:41.650
(laughing)

3109
2:53:41.650 --> 2:53:43.250
Okay.

3110
2:53:43.250 --> 2:53:45.700
Okay, so you could accept that, but

3111
2:53:48.050 --> 2:53:50.800
you know, should you accept that?

3112
2:53:51.646 --> 2:53:54.896
(speaking with no mic)

3113
2:54:00.164 --> 2:54:02.540
(laughing)

3114
2:54:02.540 --> 2:54:04.660
Well Ms. Miller has made an excellent point

3115
2:54:04.660 --> 2:54:07.940
that whenever you get a gift that either you

3116
2:54:07.940 --> 2:54:10.760
cannot accept, or even if you don't want to accept,

3117
2:54:11.800 --> 2:54:15.140
one option instead, I mean you always have the option

3118
2:54:15.140 --> 2:54:17.100
of saying, no I don't wanna take the gift.

3119
2:54:17.100 --> 2:54:19.760
But another option that's under state law,

3120
2:54:19.760 --> 2:54:22.980
is you can give it to a government entity or charity.

3121
2:54:24.170 --> 2:54:28.460
So you can give it to a lot entities.

3122
2:54:28.460 --> 2:54:32.950
And that'd be a nice little item for somebody

3123
2:54:32.950 --> 2:54:36.211
to put on their silent auction or to have a gift

3124
2:54:36.211 --> 2:54:37.910
for someone else.

3125
2:54:37.910 --> 2:54:42.910
I mean, there's a lot of options you have there that...

3126
2:54:45.363 --> 2:54:48.613
(speaking with no mic)

3127
2:54:55.300 --> 2:54:56.770
Next question.

3128
2:54:56.770 --> 2:54:58.851
We're gonna give it to Debbie.

3129
2:54:58.851 --> 2:55:01.137
(speaking with no mic)

3130
2:55:01.137 --> 2:55:04.150
(laughing)

3131
2:55:04.150 --> 2:55:06.100
Well you can give it to the government,

3132
2:55:06.100 --> 2:55:08.960
but that's not just any government employee.

3133
2:55:09.810 --> 2:55:12.724
And it has to be something the government can accept,

3134
2:55:12.724 --> 2:55:15.870
and unfortunately TEA doesn't have the authority

3135
2:55:15.870 --> 2:55:18.169
to accept food for its workers.

3136
2:55:18.169 --> 2:55:20.330
So we couldn't take that.

3137
2:55:22.540 --> 2:55:25.376
You mean if I brought a, baked this cake

3138
2:55:25.376 --> 2:55:30.159
and named it, Debbie can't and Monica can't even

3139
2:55:30.159 --> 2:55:32.864
eat the cake if I brought you a cake?

3140
2:55:32.864 --> 2:55:34.316
Are you saying that?

3141
2:55:34.316 --> 2:55:35.729
No, I am not.

3142
2:55:35.729 --> 2:55:38.158
(laughing)

3143
2:55:38.158 --> 2:55:41.408
(speaking with no mic)

3144
2:55:43.110 --> 2:55:46.051
The Texas Ethics Commission has given us opinion.

3145
2:55:46.051 --> 2:55:50.700
A representative had a constituent who brought in

3146
2:55:50.700 --> 2:55:54.080
a nice apple pie and wanted to know if he could accept that.

3147
2:55:55.030 --> 2:55:58.402
And the ethics committee said, yes you can.

3148
2:55:58.402 --> 2:56:03.180
Well there you go.

3149
2:56:03.180 --> 2:56:04.370
Yeah.

3150
2:56:04.370 --> 2:56:06.100
(speaking with no mic)

3151
2:56:06.100 --> 2:56:08.280
What about if you were given something, say like

3152
2:56:08.280 --> 2:56:10.230
the chocolates for example and it was just

3153
2:56:10.230 --> 2:56:11.967
before we came to a board meeting.

3154
2:56:11.967 --> 2:56:14.750
If you brought it and just set it out on the table

3155
2:56:14.750 --> 2:56:18.000
for the board members, is that permissible?

3156
2:56:20.087 --> 2:56:22.215
Are you gonna eat $50 worth?

3157
2:56:22.215 --> 2:56:25.270
I'm not, y'all are.

3158
2:56:25.270 --> 2:56:27.720
You could always bring food to share...

3159
2:56:32.550 --> 2:56:34.740
That is certainly legitimate.

3160
2:56:34.740 --> 2:56:35.573
Okay.

3161
2:56:35.573 --> 2:56:37.858
But isn't it a problem though, if a person,

3162
2:56:37.858 --> 2:56:40.319
we did it all the time, someone gives me

3163
2:56:40.319 --> 2:56:42.440
50 bucks of tacos, bring them over.

3164
2:56:42.440 --> 2:56:46.270
But if someone reports, I gave Member Ken Mercer

3165
2:56:46.270 --> 2:56:49.730
$50 of tacos in their report, is that problematic?

3166
2:56:49.730 --> 2:56:51.400
I mean, what I did with that, I went and gave,

3167
2:56:51.400 --> 2:56:53.120
you see what I'm saying?

3168
2:56:53.120 --> 2:56:55.080
That's the reporting part of the concern for me,

3169
2:56:55.080 --> 2:56:57.120
if someone says they did that.

3170
2:56:57.120 --> 2:56:58.910
You're right, I mean as long as it meets

3171
2:56:58.910 --> 2:57:00.910
the threshold, it will be in the report.

3172
2:57:02.850 --> 2:57:04.740
So it's gonna look to everybody who reads

3173
2:57:04.740 --> 2:57:07.100
that report that's filed with the Ethics Commission

3174
2:57:07.100 --> 2:57:09.580
that this was a gift you got and everybody's

3175
2:57:09.580 --> 2:57:11.770
gonna assume you just ate it.

3176
2:57:11.770 --> 2:57:14.670
Not that you took it and gave it to the Girl Scouts

3177
2:57:14.670 --> 2:57:16.063
or something like that.

3178
2:57:16.063 --> 2:57:21.063
So if you do give gifts to other entities,

3179
2:57:22.660 --> 2:57:25.430
it might be a good idea just to get a letter

3180
2:57:25.430 --> 2:57:28.330
or something to the effect, so if anyone wants

3181
2:57:28.330 --> 2:57:31.640
to make a deal over it, you could say, you know,

3182
2:57:31.640 --> 2:57:33.919
Mr. Mercer, you took that $50 worth of tacos

3183
2:57:33.919 --> 2:57:35.900
and that's terrible.

3184
2:57:35.900 --> 2:57:38.530
You could say, well yes, but the Girl Scouts

3185
2:57:38.530 --> 2:57:41.350
really liked it and they sent me this nice thank you letter.

3186
2:57:43.880 --> 2:57:44.750
All right.

3187
2:57:44.750 --> 2:57:47.920
Next one, kind of similar.

3188
2:57:47.920 --> 2:57:51.940
You speak at a commencement for a local high school

3189
2:57:51.940 --> 2:57:54.620
and after the event the superintendent thanks you,

3190
2:57:54.620 --> 2:57:56.470
hands you an envelope and says,

3191
2:57:56.470 --> 2:57:58.730
here's a little token of our appreciation.

3192
2:57:58.730 --> 2:58:03.160
In the envelope, there's a gift card for $49.99.

3193
2:58:04.540 --> 2:58:05.540
Can you accept that?

3194
2:58:08.350 --> 2:58:09.895
Any..

3195
2:58:09.895 --> 2:58:12.763
(speaking with no mics)

3196
2:58:12.763 --> 2:58:14.632
Right, good point.

3197
2:58:14.632 --> 2:58:17.916
The Ethics Commission last year came out with an opinion

3198
2:58:17.916 --> 2:58:21.610
that says that provision that says you cannot accept

3199
2:58:21.610 --> 2:58:23.900
cash or negotiable instrument.

3200
2:58:25.130 --> 2:58:28.060
They've determined that gift cards are cash.

3201
2:58:29.150 --> 2:58:33.660
I always thought cash was currency, but no.

3202
2:58:33.660 --> 2:58:37.610
It includes gift cards, so don't accept those gift cards.

3203
2:58:40.541 --> 2:58:42.540
And since we know it's not legal,

3204
2:58:42.540 --> 2:58:44.370
I don't think we have to talk about too much,

3205
2:58:44.370 --> 2:58:45.270
should we do this.

3206
2:58:47.960 --> 2:58:50.350
Next question, your spouse runs the local

3207
2:58:50.350 --> 2:58:52.160
high school booster club.

3208
2:58:52.160 --> 2:58:54.350
He's trying to get gifts for a silent auction,

3209
2:58:54.350 --> 2:58:56.150
he asks you to help.

3210
2:58:56.150 --> 2:58:57.967
You're at a TASB conference and you ask Jane,

3211
2:58:57.967 --> 2:59:01.240
a school law attorney, who sends her children

3212
2:59:01.240 --> 2:59:03.810
to your local high school, if she'd like to donate

3213
2:59:03.810 --> 2:59:06.129
an item to the silent auction.

3214
2:59:06.129 --> 2:59:09.240
Is it against the law to ask Jane for a donation?

3215
2:59:13.365 --> 2:59:16.350
(speaking with no mic)

3216
2:59:16.350 --> 2:59:19.440
It's a donation for the booster club's silent auction.

3217
2:59:22.386 --> 2:59:24.750
(speaking with no mic)

3218
2:59:24.750 --> 2:59:26.150
That is a legal thing to do.

3219
2:59:27.830 --> 2:59:31.604
(speaking with no mics)

3220
2:59:31.604 --> 2:59:33.508
Yeah.

3221
2:59:33.508 --> 2:59:36.758
(speaking with no mic)

3222
2:59:50.160 --> 2:59:51.600
He can do that.

3223
2:59:51.600 --> 2:59:52.950
He's not violating the law.

3224
2:59:55.110 --> 2:59:58.500
Can we ask someone to donate $300

3225
2:59:58.500 --> 2:59:59.900
to brand the fund?

3226
2:59:59.900 --> 3:00:00.733
To what?

3227
3:00:00.733 --> 3:00:02.270
To brand the fund.

3228
3:00:02.270 --> 3:00:07.270
We can ask someone else to do that, right?

3229
3:00:07.540 --> 3:00:09.610
What is the purpose?

3230
3:00:09.610 --> 3:00:12.040
Our program to brand the PSF fund that we're

3231
3:00:12.040 --> 3:00:13.750
trying to raise the scholarship for.

3232
3:00:13.750 --> 3:00:15.040
Let's go to the next question.

3233
3:00:15.040 --> 3:00:17.290
I think this is gonna get us into that issue.

3234
3:00:18.190 --> 3:00:21.590
And this is question five

3235
3:00:23.310 --> 3:00:26.700
is based on what happened in question four.

3236
3:00:26.700 --> 3:00:28.731
Just after you ask Jane for the donation,

3237
3:00:28.731 --> 3:00:32.600
John, president of Big Money that invests PSF funds

3238
3:00:32.600 --> 3:00:35.620
comes up and says, Big Money would love to donate

3239
3:00:35.620 --> 3:00:37.240
a cruise to the silent auction.

3240
3:00:38.280 --> 3:00:40.470
Can you accept that cruise?

3241
3:00:40.470 --> 3:00:41.303
No.

3242
3:00:41.303 --> 3:00:42.210
No, no.

3243
3:00:42.210 --> 3:00:43.720
PSF service providers.

3244
3:00:44.570 --> 3:00:49.570
You cannot ask them to donate to any charity.

3245
3:00:49.740 --> 3:00:53.570
You can't make that request.

3246
3:00:54.554 --> 3:00:57.580
The other thing is like, it's a cruise.

3247
3:00:57.580 --> 3:01:00.580
Let's assume that it's not a PSF service provider.

3248
3:01:00.580 --> 3:01:04.220
Let's just say the president of HEB says,

3249
3:01:04.220 --> 3:01:07.160
I'd love to donate a cruise.

3250
3:01:08.202 --> 3:01:11.467
(speaking with no mic)

3251
3:01:11.467 --> 3:01:15.540
Now you might be able to accept that,

3252
3:01:15.540 --> 3:01:20.010
but you know, HEB does have an educational foundation

3253
3:01:20.010 --> 3:01:21.960
and they try to get educational policy.

3254
3:01:24.710 --> 3:01:27.550
I guess maybe it's a little ambiguous what a cruise means.

3255
3:01:27.550 --> 3:01:30.000
Is this a cruise on town lake?

3256
3:01:30.000 --> 3:01:32.720
Or is this a cruise in the Caribbean.

3257
3:01:32.720 --> 3:01:34.710
I was kind of thinking the cruise in Caribbean,

3258
3:01:34.710 --> 3:01:37.410
cruise to Greece or something like that, really big.

3259
3:01:39.286 --> 3:01:43.750
Things like that start really having a question about,

3260
3:01:43.750 --> 3:01:46.780
that's odd, he's giving him that much money.

3261
3:01:46.780 --> 3:01:49.480
What does he think he's gonna get for that much money?

3262
3:01:51.940 --> 3:01:55.747
So always be careful about people giving you

3263
3:01:58.120 --> 3:02:01.350
very great amounts of money that just doesn't seem right.

3264
3:02:05.501 --> 3:02:07.620
On six.

3265
3:02:07.620 --> 3:02:10.680
There is a vote on whether to give a PSF contract

3266
3:02:10.680 --> 3:02:11.720
to Bank of America.

3267
3:02:12.710 --> 3:02:14.874
You have a Bank of America credit card.

3268
3:02:14.874 --> 3:02:16.740
What are you required to do?

3269
3:02:24.804 --> 3:02:28.580
(speaking with no mic)

3270
3:02:28.580 --> 3:02:31.600
So where that could come in, say the contract

3271
3:02:31.600 --> 3:02:35.435
could be, like to be a custodian or something like that.

3272
3:02:35.435 --> 3:02:38.540
Custodial, kind of like what we do with Melon.

3273
3:02:38.540 --> 3:02:41.752
You're not dealing directly with Bank of America.

3274
3:02:41.752 --> 3:02:43.590
Yeah and that's probably true.

3275
3:02:43.590 --> 3:02:45.688
They usually have multiple corporations,

3276
3:02:45.688 --> 3:02:50.050
but even if it was, if they're just giving you

3277
3:02:50.050 --> 3:02:52.930
the same credit card that anyone can apply for,

3278
3:02:54.690 --> 3:02:55.790
that's not a conflict.

3279
3:02:57.913 --> 3:03:01.326
That's not a problem.

3280
3:03:01.326 --> 3:03:04.680
Unless they come up you, their lobbyist comes up to you

3281
3:03:04.680 --> 3:03:09.450
and says, you know Ms. Miller, I've got this great card

3282
3:03:09.450 --> 3:03:13.170
that almost no one can get, but I think you should have it.

3283
3:03:14.490 --> 3:03:16.640
It's not the thing that everyone could get.

3284
3:03:17.840 --> 3:03:22.280
That seems to be a time to, first of all,

3285
3:03:22.280 --> 3:03:24.890
not take the special deal.

3286
3:03:24.890 --> 3:03:27.790
But if you had taken the special deal, to recuse yourself.

3287
3:03:29.698 --> 3:03:31.030
Next one.

3288
3:03:34.820 --> 3:03:37.440
Your Bank of America credit card is hijacked

3289
3:03:37.440 --> 3:03:39.430
through identity theft.

3290
3:03:39.430 --> 3:03:42.290
Even though you informed Bank of America within eight hours

3291
3:03:42.290 --> 3:03:46.471
of the bogus charge for a $5,000 TV you never bought,

3292
3:03:46.471 --> 3:03:48.970
they insist you're responsible and will hurt

3293
3:03:48.970 --> 3:03:51.770
your credit rating if you do not pay up.

3294
3:03:51.770 --> 3:03:54.520
After much discussion you say, I don't think

3295
3:03:54.520 --> 3:03:56.130
you know who I am.

3296
3:03:56.130 --> 3:03:58.760
You better contact fund manager Jack Johnson

3297
3:03:58.760 --> 3:04:02.210
and see if Bank of America wants to lose the PSF account.

3298
3:04:06.200 --> 3:04:07.940
Anyone think that's okay?

3299
3:04:07.940 --> 3:04:08.773
No.

3300
3:04:08.773 --> 3:04:09.900
Very good, very good.

3301
3:04:13.760 --> 3:04:17.700
Yeah, that is an example of abuse of office.

3302
3:04:17.700 --> 3:04:21.706
A crime under Texas law, to use your official position

3303
3:04:21.706 --> 3:04:23.700
to get a benefit for yourself.

3304
3:04:30.550 --> 3:04:34.480
Next two came from a recent Ethics Commission opinions.

3305
3:04:34.480 --> 3:04:36.320
I was kind of surprised at these.

3306
3:04:36.320 --> 3:04:39.420
First one, you want to use campaign funds

3307
3:04:39.420 --> 3:04:42.470
to pay costs associated with a membership

3308
3:04:42.470 --> 3:04:45.550
in an organization that helps its members

3309
3:04:45.550 --> 3:04:48.630
develop leadership skills and your primary purpose

3310
3:04:48.630 --> 3:04:52.360
is to facilitate your official duties and activities.

3311
3:04:53.990 --> 3:04:55.380
Seem like a legit--

3312
3:04:58.964 --> 3:05:02.297
(speaking with no mics)

3313
3:05:12.930 --> 3:05:13.763
Okay.

3314
3:05:13.763 --> 3:05:16.200
I haven't, could you hit the mic buttons

3315
3:05:16.200 --> 3:05:17.920
so I can hear the responses?

3316
3:05:19.351 --> 3:05:22.621
(speaking with no mics)

3317
3:05:22.621 --> 3:05:25.533
No, you cannot do that because your official duties

3318
3:05:26.880 --> 3:05:31.130
and activities cannot be mixed up with campaign

3319
3:05:31.130 --> 3:05:33.780
donation things, as I understand it.

3320
3:05:33.780 --> 3:05:34.780
So this is a...

3321
3:05:38.252 --> 3:05:41.074
But that's an organization membership.

3322
3:05:41.074 --> 3:05:43.030
(speaking with no mic)

3323
3:05:43.030 --> 3:05:45.412
That's a little tricksy there.

3324
3:05:45.412 --> 3:05:47.125
You're a member of your local democratic party,

3325
3:05:47.125 --> 3:05:52.125
just say (speaking with no mic)

3326
3:05:56.522 --> 3:05:59.260
Now this is, I think the Ethics Commission

3327
3:05:59.260 --> 3:06:01.030
on this opinion really extended it.

3328
3:06:01.030 --> 3:06:02.790
The answer is yes.

3329
3:06:02.790 --> 3:06:04.350
There's a couple of key points, you really have

3330
3:06:04.350 --> 3:06:05.370
to look at this.

3331
3:06:06.520 --> 3:06:10.690
This is to develop leadership skills that facilitates

3332
3:06:10.690 --> 3:06:12.490
your official duties and activities.

3333
3:06:14.770 --> 3:06:19.030
And so that's gonna be a key question

3334
3:06:19.030 --> 3:06:23.600
and if some district attorney wanted to

3335
3:06:23.600 --> 3:06:25.690
make a little case against you,

3336
3:06:25.690 --> 3:06:27.720
they can argue, well that really wasn't

3337
3:06:27.720 --> 3:06:29.830
to facilitate official duties.

3338
3:06:29.830 --> 3:06:33.370
The real reason you were taking this course

3339
3:06:33.370 --> 3:06:37.520
was to make you more marketable in your profession.

3340
3:06:39.010 --> 3:06:43.520
So while the ethics committee, Commission

3341
3:06:43.520 --> 3:06:46.920
said that's okay, I'd be really careful

3342
3:06:46.920 --> 3:06:49.470
about something like that.

3343
3:06:51.449 --> 3:06:53.630
The hard thing is to, I mean,

3344
3:06:55.500 --> 3:06:58.270
that's their question verbatim.

3345
3:06:58.270 --> 3:07:00.610
And it specifically says the primary purpose

3346
3:07:00.610 --> 3:07:03.450
is to facilitate your official duties and activities.

3347
3:07:04.420 --> 3:07:06.550
That's the question they're answering.

3348
3:07:06.550 --> 3:07:09.760
But proving that up is the difficult part

3349
3:07:09.760 --> 3:07:12.649
and so I really don't think this is the best

3350
3:07:12.649 --> 3:07:17.649
idea to do that, but there's a possibility.

3351
3:07:21.900 --> 3:07:23.350
Okay, last question.

3352
3:07:24.310 --> 3:07:27.097
Since becoming a candidate for election this year,

3353
3:07:27.097 --> 3:07:30.490
you've had to pay for childcare services,

3354
3:07:30.490 --> 3:07:33.130
daycare and babysitting, for two young children

3355
3:07:33.130 --> 3:07:35.850
because you must attend so many campaign events,

3356
3:07:35.850 --> 3:07:37.477
often long into the night.

3357
3:07:37.477 --> 3:07:39.980
In the past, you'd not been required to do so much

3358
3:07:39.980 --> 3:07:42.820
campaigning because you ran unopposed or only against

3359
3:07:42.820 --> 3:07:45.680
a third-party candidate who had little support.

3360
3:07:45.680 --> 3:07:47.160
Now you're in a tough race.

3361
3:07:47.160 --> 3:07:50.140
You wanna use campaign funds to pay for childcare.

3362
3:07:50.140 --> 3:07:52.610
A donor is willing to make a contribution

3363
3:07:52.610 --> 3:07:53.980
specifically for childcare.

3364
3:07:56.450 --> 3:07:58.100
Is that something you can accept?

3365
3:07:59.346 --> 3:08:02.596
(speaking with no mic)

3366
3:08:09.370 --> 3:08:11.130
Everybody seems to be saying no.

3367
3:08:13.057 --> 3:08:15.425
I think you can, can't you?

3368
3:08:15.425 --> 3:08:16.258
But the Ethics Commission said yes.

3369
3:08:16.258 --> 3:08:19.450
Now this was a little bit different facts situation

3370
3:08:19.450 --> 3:08:22.700
because as someone who didn't hold office,

3371
3:08:22.700 --> 3:08:26.617
was a stay at home mom who'd always taken care of her kids

3372
3:08:26.617 --> 3:08:30.510
and now she had to go out on a tough campaign

3373
3:08:30.510 --> 3:08:33.190
and had to be there at all hours in places

3374
3:08:33.190 --> 3:08:35.060
she couldn't take kids.

3375
3:08:35.060 --> 3:08:39.380
And she wanted to know if she could use campaign

3376
3:08:39.380 --> 3:08:42.580
funds for her childcare and she did have some supporters

3377
3:08:42.580 --> 3:08:47.580
that would specifically give this for childcare.

3378
3:08:47.900 --> 3:08:51.740
And the Ethics Commission said, yeah that's a possibility.

3379
3:08:51.740 --> 3:08:55.014
Now this doesn't mean all childcare can be funded

3380
3:08:55.014 --> 3:08:58.694
through campaign funds.

3381
3:08:58.694 --> 3:09:02.600
But the argument is that because of the campaign,

3382
3:09:03.450 --> 3:09:06.610
unlike what you're previously doing, now you need

3383
3:09:06.610 --> 3:09:09.210
to put your kids in childcare.

3384
3:09:09.210 --> 3:09:11.500
In that case, the answer is yes.

3385
3:09:11.500 --> 3:09:15.210
Now the other question is, while the Ethics Commission

3386
3:09:15.210 --> 3:09:17.970
say it's okay, should you do that?

3387
3:09:20.870 --> 3:09:24.080
Can I ask, Mr. Maynard, for example has a business

3388
3:09:24.080 --> 3:09:26.200
where he has many kids at his ranch.

3389
3:09:27.640 --> 3:09:31.100
Is that allowed for someone to take care of his kids?

3390
3:09:31.100 --> 3:09:33.260
They're otherwise known as goats.

3391
3:09:33.260 --> 3:09:35.510
(laughing)

3392
3:09:40.746 --> 3:09:43.090
You're not as good as Mr. Maynard is

3393
3:09:43.090 --> 3:09:44.250
at delivering those.

3394
3:09:44.250 --> 3:09:45.482
Go ahead.

3395
3:09:45.482 --> 3:09:48.732
(speaking with no mic)

3396
3:09:51.670 --> 3:09:53.620
Those are all my questions for today.

3397
3:09:54.581 --> 3:09:57.200
And if you have any other questions you can ask them

3398
3:09:57.200 --> 3:09:59.680
right now or I'll be hanging around for a while.

3399
3:09:59.680 --> 3:10:02.847
Or like I say, you can call me anytime, email me anytime.

3400
3:10:02.847 --> 3:10:05.140
Also the folks at the Ethics Commission,

3401
3:10:05.140 --> 3:10:07.521
I think they're really an excellent agency,

3402
3:10:07.521 --> 3:10:10.830
if you got questions, they'll get you answers

3403
3:10:10.830 --> 3:10:12.330
and they do a good job on it.

3404
3:10:13.730 --> 3:10:14.900
Any questions?

3405
3:10:16.967 --> 3:10:20.217
(speaking with no mic)

3406
3:10:21.630 --> 3:10:24.070
Ethics Commission, finally after so many years

3407
3:10:24.070 --> 3:10:27.110
has gotten their electronics so that you can actually use it.

3408
3:10:27.110 --> 3:10:28.730
It was a nightmare for so long,

3409
3:10:28.730 --> 3:10:31.743
but hats off to them for finally letting you

3410
3:10:31.743 --> 3:10:33.610
do stuff easily.

3411
3:10:35.510 --> 3:10:36.800
Yeah, absolutely.

3412
3:10:36.800 --> 3:10:39.950
Any other questions of Mr. Maska.

3413
3:10:39.950 --> 3:10:42.730
Chris, thank you again for actually making that

3414
3:10:42.730 --> 3:10:47.000
very engaging and interesting on ethics training.

3415
3:10:47.000 --> 3:10:48.320
We like the quizzes.

3416
3:10:49.300 --> 3:10:50.820
We did not do very well.

3417
3:10:52.810 --> 3:10:54.900
I will say that, if you were grading us,

3418
3:10:54.900 --> 3:10:56.650
I don't know what we'd earn on that.

3419
3:10:56.650 --> 3:10:59.810
It was a probably a C, probably, I would think.

3420
3:10:59.810 --> 3:11:00.890
So thank you so much.

3421
3:11:00.890 --> 3:11:03.074
We appreciate your time on doing that.

3422
3:11:03.074 --> 3:11:05.780
Well, members, it's now time to just talk

3423
3:11:05.780 --> 3:11:10.070
about personal things and announcements.

3424
3:11:10.070 --> 3:11:13.450
Just don't wanna miss any, noted,

3425
3:11:13.450 --> 3:11:17.270
any awards that people got or anything like that

3426
3:11:17.270 --> 3:11:19.110
that we should all know about.

3427
3:11:19.110 --> 3:11:21.780
I don't know any new grandbabies, I don't know,

3428
3:11:21.780 --> 3:11:23.510
Yeah, Dr. Ellis.

3429
3:11:23.510 --> 3:11:25.220
I'm now an honorary lifetime member of the

3430
3:11:25.220 --> 3:11:27.130
Texas Rural Educators Association.

3431
3:11:27.130 --> 3:11:28.510
I received an award from them.

3432
3:11:28.510 --> 3:11:29.343
You got what?

3433
3:11:29.343 --> 3:11:31.600
I am a lifetime honorary member of the

3434
3:11:31.600 --> 3:11:33.980
Texas Rural Educators Association.

3435
3:11:33.980 --> 3:11:35.590
Got an award from them.

3436
3:11:35.590 --> 3:11:37.680
But also, on the school finance Commission,

3437
3:11:37.680 --> 3:11:39.670
I will be granted the opportunity

3438
3:11:39.670 --> 3:11:41.730
to speak at Tripp Fest at the end of the month

3439
3:11:41.730 --> 3:11:45.341
and also to TAS at TASB about the school finance Commission

3440
3:11:45.341 --> 3:11:48.050
to represent the State Board of Education there,

3441
3:11:48.050 --> 3:11:49.000
so I'm looking forward to that.

3442
3:11:49.000 --> 3:11:50.420
And will we be able at TAS to TASB?

3443
3:11:50.420 --> 3:11:51.527
When is that gonna be?

3444
3:11:51.527 --> 3:11:55.650
TAS to TASB is the last Friday of the month

3445
3:11:55.650 --> 3:11:57.570
and the Tripp Fest is the next Saturday,

3446
3:11:57.570 --> 3:11:58.850
the Saturday there after.

3447
3:11:58.850 --> 3:11:59.683
And where are they both?

3448
3:11:59.683 --> 3:12:00.516
Here in Austin?

3449
3:12:00.516 --> 3:12:01.450
Both here in Austin, yes.

3450
3:12:03.556 --> 3:12:06.380
We want to be in the audience to cheer you on.

3451
3:12:06.380 --> 3:12:09.121
I want you in the audience to cheer me on.

3452
3:12:09.121 --> 3:12:10.200
(speaking with no mic)

3453
3:12:10.200 --> 3:12:11.810
Yeah, cheer, not heckle.

3454
3:12:11.810 --> 3:12:12.790
Absolutely.

3455
3:12:12.790 --> 3:12:13.900
Anything, any other--

3456
3:12:20.960 --> 3:12:22.367
Madame Chair?

3457
3:12:22.367 --> 3:12:23.365
Yes?

3458
3:12:23.365 --> 3:12:24.782
Yes, Mr. Maynard.

3459
3:12:24.782 --> 3:12:29.782
Just in all of the sort of the revised PSF History,

3460
3:12:29.922 --> 3:12:33.110
as soon as I've got a few little tweaks to make to it

3461
3:12:33.110 --> 3:12:35.358
and we will get that to you.

3462
3:12:35.358 --> 3:12:40.358
And just, if you wanna look at it

3463
3:12:40.975 --> 3:12:45.720
I do have a copy of the 1873 legislation

3464
3:12:46.820 --> 3:12:49.040
that assigned half the public domain

3465
3:12:49.040 --> 3:12:51.060
to the Permanent School Fund.

3466
3:12:51.060 --> 3:12:53.370
The hand writing's pretty cool.

3467
3:12:53.370 --> 3:12:54.920
And so if you wanna take a look at that,

3468
3:12:54.920 --> 3:12:58.030
we pulled that out of the archives a couple months ago.

3469
3:12:59.676 --> 3:13:01.965
I got a chance to look at that yesterday

3470
3:13:01.965 --> 3:13:04.570
and it is kind of amazing that the handwriting

3471
3:13:04.570 --> 3:13:08.030
of course was so beautiful back then and legible.

3472
3:13:08.030 --> 3:13:10.139
You know, and it was just amazing

3473
3:13:10.139 --> 3:13:15.139
just to kind of see History right in front of you, copied.

3474
3:13:15.720 --> 3:13:18.450
Also I wanna announce that Barbara Cargill's

3475
3:13:18.450 --> 3:13:20.968
been named to the Arts Education task force

3476
3:13:20.968 --> 3:13:23.670
and is examining what constitutes a quality

3477
3:13:23.670 --> 3:13:26.701
in equitable arts education for Texas students.

3478
3:13:26.701 --> 3:13:27.870
(speaking with no mic)

3479
3:13:27.870 --> 3:13:29.080
Yay, Barbara.

3480
3:13:29.080 --> 3:13:32.070
And special Kay, who I think is no longer here,

3481
3:13:32.070 --> 3:13:34.510
Kay Crews, our parliamentarian,

3482
3:13:34.510 --> 3:13:36.620
has been reelected president of the

3483
3:13:36.620 --> 3:13:39.470
American Institute of Parliamentarians.

3484
3:13:39.470 --> 3:13:41.310
That's kind of a big job.

3485
3:13:41.310 --> 3:13:44.317
Congratulations Kay, if you're out there listening in.

3486
3:13:44.317 --> 3:13:45.740
(speaking with no mic)

3487
3:13:45.740 --> 3:13:46.573
Oh, is she?

3488
3:13:47.720 --> 3:13:48.553
Yeah, we like that.

3489
3:13:48.553 --> 3:13:50.510
That is a huge change, very good.

3490
3:13:50.510 --> 3:13:52.820
Yeah, we do like them posted up there.

3491
3:13:52.820 --> 3:13:54.840
It's easier for us to follow.

3492
3:13:54.840 --> 3:13:58.290
And also, just an announcement that the 2019

3493
3:13:58.290 --> 3:14:01.600
board meeting dates are found on your agenda,

3494
3:14:01.600 --> 3:14:06.600
in your agenda on page V-37, V-37.

3495
3:14:08.260 --> 3:14:10.945
And members, you will be receiving an email from me soon.

3496
3:14:10.945 --> 3:14:13.910
I'm sorry I didn't get it out before the meeting,

3497
3:14:15.410 --> 3:14:19.490
regarding some more details on our round table.

3498
3:14:21.074 --> 3:14:24.720
TASA will be hosting the round table again

3499
3:14:24.720 --> 3:14:27.180
this coming year for us and we're gonna do it

3500
3:14:27.180 --> 3:14:29.360
on that Wednesday, like we did last year,

3501
3:14:29.360 --> 3:14:31.020
which worked really great.

3502
3:14:31.020 --> 3:14:33.850
They have a great facility and they're letting us

3503
3:14:33.850 --> 3:14:36.258
use their facility that they're already paying for.

3504
3:14:36.258 --> 3:14:38.850
We're gonna be hosting the round table there.

3505
3:14:38.850 --> 3:14:42.159
And I don't know what the TASA speaker is,

3506
3:14:42.159 --> 3:14:47.159
but our keynote after lunch is going

3507
3:14:47.530 --> 3:14:49.350
to be Dr. Sharon Hoover.

3508
3:14:49.350 --> 3:14:52.090
She is a certified national trainer,

3509
3:14:53.940 --> 3:14:56.600
specifically working in multi-tiered systems

3510
3:14:56.600 --> 3:14:58.920
of support and mental health support.

3511
3:14:58.920 --> 3:15:01.970
And that goes right along with our health plan.

3512
3:15:01.970 --> 3:15:04.020
She is an advisor and training for the

3513
3:15:04.020 --> 3:15:05.990
World Health Organization on comprehensive

3514
3:15:05.990 --> 3:15:08.077
school mental health and has supported

3515
3:15:08.077 --> 3:15:11.400
the World Health Organization in developing

3516
3:15:11.400 --> 3:15:13.250
and implementing curriculum for teachers

3517
3:15:13.250 --> 3:15:17.220
throughout the, and so we think that's so vital.

3518
3:15:17.220 --> 3:15:19.250
And I think it'll be fascinating to hear from her.

3519
3:15:19.250 --> 3:15:22.420
She is the, let me get,

3520
3:15:22.420 --> 3:15:25.280
she's from the University of Maryland and is,

3521
3:15:26.480 --> 3:15:29.713
let me see where, what is her...

3522
3:15:33.005 --> 3:15:35.950
Her thing is all about school mental health

3523
3:15:35.950 --> 3:15:40.331
and how to inform teachers about how to do that well.

3524
3:15:40.331 --> 3:15:45.008
And she's the associate professor of and co-director

3525
3:15:45.008 --> 3:15:47.700
for Center for School of Mental Health

3526
3:15:47.700 --> 3:15:50.100
at the University of Maryland in the School of Medicine.

3527
3:15:50.100 --> 3:15:53.330
So I think she's quite a get for the state board

3528
3:15:53.330 --> 3:15:55.160
to bring her in to talk to us.

3529
3:15:55.160 --> 3:15:57.650
And I think it'll be a fascinating conversation

3530
3:15:57.650 --> 3:15:58.860
that we have with her.

3531
3:15:58.860 --> 3:16:01.357
So we will be having three panels this year.

3532
3:16:01.357 --> 3:16:05.230
Last year, as you all recall, we did our teacher

3533
3:16:05.230 --> 3:16:08.720
preparation, development, and retention panel.

3534
3:16:08.720 --> 3:16:11.090
The whole focus was on educators last year.

3535
3:16:11.090 --> 3:16:15.240
That's only one piece of the four part Long Range Plan.

3536
3:16:15.240 --> 3:16:16.650
This year we're gonna be talking

3537
3:16:16.650 --> 3:16:18.150
about the other three pieces.

3538
3:16:18.150 --> 3:16:21.060
Equity and access, student engagement and empowerment,

3539
3:16:21.060 --> 3:16:22.480
and parent engagement and empowerment.

3540
3:16:22.480 --> 3:16:26.028
Those will be our panel focuses this year

3541
3:16:26.028 --> 3:16:28.326
at the learning round table.

3542
3:16:28.326 --> 3:16:30.530
I think that's very appropriate at the beginning

3543
3:16:30.530 --> 3:16:32.425
of the legislative session to continue to get

3544
3:16:32.425 --> 3:16:34.420
the word out about the Long Range Plan,

3545
3:16:34.420 --> 3:16:36.430
when we get that approved in November.

3546
3:16:36.430 --> 3:16:38.400
And a great way to kind of kick off those really

3547
3:16:38.400 --> 3:16:41.350
important conversations about what's in the Long Range Plan.

3548
3:16:41.350 --> 3:16:44.450
So I think that'll be a very rich round table.

3549
3:16:44.450 --> 3:16:46.340
It'll focus on our Long Range Plan,

3550
3:16:46.340 --> 3:16:48.249
the other three elements of the Long Range Plan.

3551
3:16:48.249 --> 3:16:52.200
So I'm gonna be sending you an email so please look for it,

3552
3:16:52.200 --> 3:16:55.110
looking for nominations to serve in an equity

3553
3:16:55.110 --> 3:16:58.180
and access panel, a parent engagement and empowerment panel.

3554
3:16:58.180 --> 3:17:01.950
We really wanna hear, obviously, from your state experts

3555
3:17:01.950 --> 3:17:06.030
and practitioners that are working in these three areas,

3556
3:17:06.030 --> 3:17:09.290
that they could tie into our Long Range Plan,

3557
3:17:09.290 --> 3:17:11.000
that could really give us some ideas

3558
3:17:11.000 --> 3:17:13.980
about the work that's going on around the state

3559
3:17:13.980 --> 3:17:15.600
that could be informative and helpful

3560
3:17:15.600 --> 3:17:17.610
for folks al over the state of Texas.

3561
3:17:17.610 --> 3:17:20.010
So again, you'll be looking, I'll be sending you

3562
3:17:20.010 --> 3:17:22.520
an email soon, give you all the details.

3563
3:17:22.520 --> 3:17:24.950
And we'll be looking for feedback.

3564
3:17:24.950 --> 3:17:28.140
Hope to have your nominations by early November

3565
3:17:28.140 --> 3:17:31.140
so that we can send out the invitations and all of that

3566
3:17:31.140 --> 3:17:33.196
and get folks lined up for the panels.

3567
3:17:33.196 --> 3:17:37.890
Again, members, great week and thank you very much

3568
3:17:37.890 --> 3:17:40.240
for your professionalism.

3569
3:17:40.240 --> 3:17:42.670
Thank you for your dedication to children

3570
3:17:42.670 --> 3:17:45.030
and really appreciate you signing that letter

3571
3:17:45.030 --> 3:17:46.790
and hopefully we'll get a great response

3572
3:17:46.790 --> 3:17:49.790
from the state land board that will be

3573
3:17:49.790 --> 3:17:52.060
very positive for the students.

3574
3:17:52.060 --> 3:17:54.100
And we will see you in November.

3575
3:17:54.940 --> 3:17:55.774
Meeting is--

3576
3:17:55.774 --> 3:17:58.573
(speaking with no mic)

3577
3:17:58.573 --> 3:18:00.620
Yeah.

3578
3:18:00.620 --> 3:18:02.702
I think we kind of missed it at this point.

3579
3:18:02.702 --> 3:18:04.720
Yeah, thank you, members.

3580
3:18:04.720 --> 3:18:05.553
A great meeting.