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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Members, we're gonna get started</v>

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with our meeting.

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First, we're gonna have student performance,

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and Ms. Perez-Diaz is gonna introduce them.

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Turn on your mic.

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<v Ms. Perez-Diaz>I'm gonna ask that we move</v>

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to the lobby area.

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Our student performance is out in front.

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We have some students in wheelchairs

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so it's not really accommodating in this area.

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So, we gotta move out to the lobby area.

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<v ->All right, members, let's go ahead</v>

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and call meeting back to order.

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Our first up is Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance,

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and Pledge to the Texas flag.

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Mr. Maynard?

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Is he in the room?

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Yes, perfect.

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<v ->All right, if you will stand as we</v>

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pledge to the flags.

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First the American flag.

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<v ->(all together) I pledge allegiance to the flag</v>

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of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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<v ->And now the Texas flag.</v>

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<v ->(all together) Honor the Texas flag.</v>

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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas,

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one State under God.

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One and indivisible.

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<v ->As we begin with an invocation.</v>

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Father, we just come to You as Your word has commanded us

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that if any lack wisdom

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that they should ask and that You would grant that freely.

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Dear God, we just pray, dear God,

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that You would just grant us wisdom and insight,

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Father, and that we would always never be weary

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in doing good.

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That we would understand that we will reap a harvest

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if we do not give up.

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Father, as we think about the 5.3 million school children

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across the State of Texas, dear God,

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we just know that the work that we do here

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is an investment in our future

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as we prepare the young minds that You have created,

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dear God, to fulfill their potential, dear God,

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to take their place as citizens in this great State

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and in this great country.

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We consecrate this time and this effort to You.

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We commend all this to you

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and we just lay this at your feet.

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We pray in the name of Jesus and for His sake, amen.

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<v ->Amen.</v>

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Thank you, Mr. Maynard.

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Renee Jackson will call the roll or Jennifer,

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I'm not sure.

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Which, okay, Renee.

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<v ->Mr. Allen?
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Bahorich?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Beltran?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Bradley?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Cargill?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Cortez?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Dr. Ellis?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Hardy?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Maynard?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Melton-Malone?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Mercer?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Miller?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Perez?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Perez-Diaz?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Rowley?
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Okay, members, we're going to do approval.</v>

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First side of business is approval of the minutes

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of the January 31st and February 3rd,

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2017 meetings.

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Are there any corrections to the minutes?

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Hearing none, the minutes are approved.

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We did have a resolution that we are going to postpone

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when the honoree will be able to be with us,

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so if you'll just note that we're not gonna

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to do that resolution today.

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Next up is gonna be public testimony.

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We've got five persons.

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I believe five, is it six or five

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that are registered?

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<v ->Seven.
<v ->Seven folks.</v>

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For public testimony, of course, on Friday

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we are

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taking testimony on things

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that are not...

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Sorry, let me start over.

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Have a lot of things on my mind today.

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We have three minutes to testify

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and you'll hear the first warning bell

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at one minute

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and the last, when you hear the double ding,

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that means you're done and just give us your last thoughts.

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Yes, Mr. Rowley?

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<v ->I think legal pointed out last meeting,</v>

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and maybe Mr. Ellis as well,

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that since these items are not posted for discussion,

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then all we can really do is direct the testifiers

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towards assistance in that type of thing.

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<v ->That's correct.</v>

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Actually, thank you for bringing that up

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because that's a really important point

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we ended up getting in to a very lengthy discussion

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which we were not posted for.

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I think it's just important that we stick to

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full discussions on things that we're posted for.

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Legal advised us so let's just remember that

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as we're looking at public testimony on Fridays.

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<v Woman>Hal Speed, Victoria Xander, and Brandon Evans.</v>

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<v ->My testimony is regarding 19 TAC, Chapter 126,</v>

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Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

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for Technology Applications,

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Subchapter A, Elementary,

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and Subchapter B, Middle School.

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Good morning, members, my name is Hal Speed.

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I'm a concerned parent.

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Today, I represent myself and the organization I started,

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the Computer Science for Texas.

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I also am an active volunteer in leadership positions

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with TCEA, the Computer Science Teachers Association,

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and I was one of the co-lead writers

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for the National K12 Computer Science framework.

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Texas participates in the multi-state

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Expanding Computing Education Pathways Alliance

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as well as the Education Commission of the States.

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Three weeks ago, these organizations, along with others,

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published the State of the State's Landscape Report

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that you have in front of you.

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Overall, Texas scores very well on many

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of the Computer Science priorities listed in the report.

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I'd like to call your attention to two.

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First, Priority Number 3, if you turn to Page 17

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in the booklet,

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Adoption of K12 Computer Science Standards.

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You'll see a graph with all the states of the Union

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and if they satisfy that requirement

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around having K12 Computer Science standards.

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Of course, Texas has very good TEKS for high school

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but we are lacking in dedicated Computer Science TEKS

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for elementary and middle school.

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I'd like to request that the board

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to schedule a revision to the Technology Application TEKS

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for Elementary and Middle School.

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In Chapter 126, Subchapters A and B

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to include up-to-date standards

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for Computer Science.

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Also, briefly, if you could turn to Page 29 on Priority 7.

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That's a dedicated state-level Computer Science position.

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I believe TEA has been in the process of hiring

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a Computer Science Coordinator.

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But at least, as of this publishing a few weeks ago,

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Texas was not listed as having a dedicated

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Computer Science Coordinator.

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So, if that's changed, if somebody from staff

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or the board, please let me know, I'd appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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<v ->Any questions for our testifier?</v>

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Thank you so much.

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Just so you know, Mr. Speed, we're gonna be looking

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at our calendar in June,

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what we're going to be taking up as far as agenda items

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for revisions or additional courses and that sort of thing,

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we'll have a big discussion in June.

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So, we appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

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<v Hal Speed>Okay, thank you.</v>

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<v Woman>Victoria Xander, Brandon Evans,</v>

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and Vanessa Guerra.

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<v ->Good morning, y'all, my name is--</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Uh, your Mic is not on.</v>

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<v ->Oh, I'm sorry.
<v ->No problem.</v>

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<v ->Good morning, y'all.</v>

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My name is Tori Xander.

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On behalf of me and my teammates,

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I would like to start by thanking you all for allowing

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us to come speak this morning.

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I'm from Clifton and attended Clifton High School,

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a little 3A located in Central Texas.

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I graduated in a class of 62 people,

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so when I moved to College Station to attend school,

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it was obviously a big transition for me.

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Lucky for me, I got involved with a group advocating

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something I've become very passionate about.

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That group is RSET,

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which stands for Redefining Sex Education in Texas.

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Our group is composed of college and university students

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from all over the state.

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As our organization continues to grow,

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I am always amazed at the similar stories

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and experiences we all share when it comes to sex education

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in our state's public schools.

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Whether we come from a poor district or a wealthy district,

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an urban district or rural district,

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students all agree on the necessity

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of a better sex education program for our schools.

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This morning, a few of my team members and I came to discuss

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who we are, what we're about, and why we're about it.

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What RSET's mission entails is to redefine

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the Health Education portion of the TEKS

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to be more factually based.

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We don't want to promote students to become sexually active

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but we do wish to prepare them for the day that they decide

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to make that choice.

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As you all know, Texas currently has an abstinence-based

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Sex Education curriculum.

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You all created it and we all support it

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but based on extensive research and months

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of polling and surveying students,

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we have come to the conclusion

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that an abstinence-based curriculum

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is simply no longer effective.

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Texas is currently ranked fifth highest

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in the nation for teen pregnancy rates

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and third highest in HIV diagnosis.

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Our site ran a poll after learning these statistics

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asking students if they believed they received

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proper sex education in school,

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62% of them said that they had not.

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If students are not being taught at school,

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maybe they're being taught at home.

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We learned that 52% of kids said that they did not

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or very vaguely have the sex talk at home with family.

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Due to these shocking statistics,

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RSET believes it's time to approach things differently.

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We would love to see a Sex-Ed curriculum

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that still informs students of the benefits

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of staying abstinent but also prepares students

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who do choose to become sexually active before marriage.

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Students are surprisingly for this change.

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The stereotypical teen might be thought of

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as childish or unwilling to participate maturely

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in a Sex-Ed course, but we discovered in the poll

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we gave to young people all over the state

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that roughly 89% of students that believe

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that sex education should be required in public schools.

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The facts don't lie.

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Our youth is becoming more and more sexually active

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as time goes on and they want to be informed

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of the consequences and precautions to take

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when making this big decision.

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Thank y'all.

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<v ->Any questions?</v>

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Thank you so much.

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<v Woman>Brandon Evans, Vanessa Guerra,</v>

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and Analisa Freyer.

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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My name is Brandon Evans and I'm from Canyon, Texas.

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Many parents and educators stand firmly

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with the teachings of abstinence.

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That's great because RSET is an abstinence-based

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organization.

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But we can no longer turn the other cheek

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to the epidemic that has plagued our youth.

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This epidemic is teen pregnancy, STDs, HIV

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among our young population.

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Challenges we face when trying to implement

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more reasonable Sex Education courses

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include the religion aspect, time and money allocation,

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and TEKS.

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To combat these challenges

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and to find a good equilibrium,

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we must strive to push the abstinence

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but also understand that adolescent teens

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may not always choose this abstinent route.

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Our teens need to be more informed about the dangers

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of unplanned parenthood and how detrimental

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it could be to their well-being.

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By doing so, we need to gather what little valuable time

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and educator resources we have

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while having and keeping the class abstinence-based

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but also having a keen understanding

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that sexual activity is still happening among students.

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Education is critical to our youth

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so why haven't we been educating them about safe sex?

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Thank you.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Any questions of our testifier?</v>

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Thank you.

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<v Woman>Vanessa Guerra, Analisa Freyer,</v>

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and Erin Haltchins.

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<v ->Okay, good morning, everybody.</v>

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My name is Vanessa Guerra.

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I'd also like to thank you all for allowing my team

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and I the opportunity to speak today.

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I am from Houston, and I attended public school

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in the Houston Independent School District.

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As my previous team member Victoria said,

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Texas is currently ranked the fifth highest state

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in regards of teen pregnancies,

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third state with highest amounts of teens that have HIV,

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and 13th with primary and secondary syphilis.

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These are your kids, the state's children

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and this is us.

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This is nothing less than a public health crisis.

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The source of this problem begins in the classroom

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of our public schools.

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RSET respects the works of our public schools

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and its long hours for very little compensation.

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The demands placed on them by the State of Texas

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are a burden that the most of the sense

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we cannot and are not willing to bear.

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However, as we've all mentioned,

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you will note that we all come from different cities

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and towns from Texas.

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Yet, it's ironic how we all seem to have the same issues

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although we're from different places around Texas.

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We've also noticed that, oddly enough,

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we have all been taught these abstinence lessons

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in our Health classes,

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typically by our PE teachers or coaches.

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Why is it that we can allow a PE coach

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or a teacher to instruct a Health course

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without a required course themselves

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and not have another teacher instruct something else

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without having the proper training?

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Would we have Biology teacher instructing History?

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A History teacher instructing Chemistry?

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Or a Drama teacher instructing Calculus?

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No, right?

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Unless they were properly prepared

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or have a certification to do so.

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We should strive for the best education for our students.

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Thank you.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Any questions?</v>

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Thank you.

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<v Woman>Analisa Freyer, Erin Haltchins,</v>

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and Jackie Haltchins.

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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My name is Analisa.

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I'm from San Antonio and I attended Luis D. Brandeis

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High School in NISD.

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I am also with RSET and I promise I'm the last one.

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This morning, I would like to emphasize

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that one of the biggest problems

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that the TEKS is facing.

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Based on statistics such as being ranked

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as the fifth highest state for teen pregnancy,

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the current curriculum is simply not working.

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The age range for what is considered a teen

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is 13 to 19 or 7th grade through college freshman.

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Although today has been reported that about 10%

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of 6th graders are sexually active.

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So, why has nothing been done to address this issue?

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Every family in Texas is different, and in an ideal world,

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the topic of sex would be dealt with privately at home

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between the parent and their children.

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However, this is not the case.

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There are many factors that have played a part

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in teens not receiving the information

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needed to have safe sex if they were to choose

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to become sexually active.

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The main one being not receiving a proper and accurate,

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comprehensive Sex Education course.

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Although teen pregnancy tends to have the biggest impact

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on the female, it does affect everyone differently,

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such as certain ethnicities more than others.

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As being a teen myself, I have personally seen the issues

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not having a comprehensive Sex Education can have.

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I was raised in a Hispanic household

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and Catholic household.

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The only thing I was told was that I was supposed

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to save myself until marriage.

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Then, in Health, all I was taught was that

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unprotected sex leads to STDs and unplanned pregnancy.

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So, what if I were to decide to have sex,

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how would I go about it?

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How would I go about staying safe

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when I've never been informed on how to stay safe?

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These are things that should have been addressed

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in my required Health high school courses.

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When I was in high school, a good friend of mine

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and her boyfriend, decided to become sexually active.

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Neither one of them knew what that would entail,

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especially when she became pregnant.

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She is also Hispanic and comes from

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a middle class family.

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Both her parents make a stable enough income

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but do not make enough to support her and her child.

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Because of this she had to drop out of high school

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and get a job and is now primarily taking care

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of her child by herself.

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In Texas, there seems to be this idea

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that having a Sex Education course

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is encouraging students to have sex,

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but the statistics show that students are going

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to have sex whether there is a class informing them

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on how to do it safely or not.

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I hope, after today, you as members of the board

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can take this information and realize

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that the health curriculum of Texas

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does need a major change.

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Thank you for your time in allowing myself

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and my other group members of RSET to share with you today.

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<v ->Any questions?</v>

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Thank you.

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I just wanted to say, thank all of you for coming.

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We love to hear from young people, it is wonderful.

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So, thank you that you came and shared

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your thoughts with us.

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We appreciate it.

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<v Woman>Erin Haltchins and Jackie Haltchins.</v>

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<v ->Hello, my name is Erin Haltchins.</v>

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I'm sure you've seen plenty of my dad

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at these meetings for math.

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But today, I would like to talk to you

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about the STAAR testing.

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I'm in 8th grade this year.

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I'm taking a Pre-AP Geometry course.

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About half of my year has been spent reviewing

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for the 8th Grade Math STAAR

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instead of learning Geometry.

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Many students in my class tested out of these sets

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of skills.

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So, why now, are we having to be tested

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on them by the State?

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Oh, wait, nevermind, I already know the answer

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to that question.

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You need to test us because you need your data point.

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And another way STAAR has affected me.

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Our archery team at school, scored well enough

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at the state tournament to qualify

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for the National Archery Tournament

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in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Jackie and I and 14 other archers don't get to go

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because of a schedule conflict with STAAR testing.

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Why is it so important for 16 students

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to take the STAAR test when there are still

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make-up days for them?

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What gets me more college and career ready,

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bubbling an answer sheet or competing at a national level?

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Oh, hold on, we interrupt this regularly scheduled

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testimony for STAAR prep.

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If you would please get out your worksheet

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that has now been passed out to you.

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This is an example of the STAAR prep.

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Okay, now back to testimony.

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I'm not a number or a data point or a casualty.

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I'm a person.

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This applies to all of the students in the State of Texas.

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We aren't lab rats for testing.

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We aren't the mindless robots you want us to be.

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Please change the standards in a way

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that improves the assessment.

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Thank you for your time.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Any questions?</v>

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Thank you, Erin.

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Oh, Mr. Mercer.

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<v Mr. Mercer>This is the 8th grade practice</v>

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for the 8th grade Math STAAR?

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<v ->No, sir, this was for my sister.</v>

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<v ->What grade is that?
<v ->What grade is it?</v>

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<v ->7th grade.
<v ->7th grade, thank you.</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Thank you.</v>

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<v Woman>Jackie Haltchins.</v>

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<v ->Hello, my name is Jacquelyn Haltchins.</v>

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Today, I'm going to talk about the STAAR assessment.

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It's an assessment, not a test, right?

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My friends and I hate the STAAR assessment.

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It stresses us out and makes us worry.

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Lots of our school days are almost entirely devoted

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to STAAR practice.

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In my opinion, that's kind of dumb.

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Teachers say that it's to help us

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for when we go on to the next grade,

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but if we learn what we're supposed to learn in our classes,

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that's going to help us more

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than STAAR assessments or STAAR prep.

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At school, we are having an everyday study period

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called Flex.

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This is time for 8th graders who didn't pass

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the STAAR assessment.

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This takes time away from everyone's classes.

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That's time that I can be in the band hall rehearsing

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for our Spring Trip and end-of-the-year performance.

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Or time I could be learning how to do math the right way.

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Oh, wait, I can't because you didn't fix the Math TEKS.

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Please reconsider removing the process standards

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and the embedded teaching methods from the TEKS.

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Multiplying seven different ways does not give me

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a deeper level of understanding.

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I do not think it is acceptable

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to expect casualties in math education.

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I refuse to be a casualty to this math

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and assessment nonsense you're forcing on us.

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And, by the way, who among you can get

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my assessment record corrected?

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In 5th grade, they scored my assessment as a zero

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instead of using the letter O for Other.

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I don't want to be stuck in everyday Flex

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because the numbers say that I don't know anything.

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Thank you.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Any que--</v>

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Yeah, Mr. Mercer?

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<v Mr. Mercer>I'm not sure what that means.</v>

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They put you as a zero instead of an O?

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Is that what you said?

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<v ->O for other 'cause I didn't take the STAAR test</v>

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in 5th grade.

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<v ->And you're advocating, again,</v>

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it should be an assessment not a test?

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<v ->[Jacquelyn Haltchins] Oh, STAAR assessment, sorry.</v>

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<v ->You're right.</v>

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I agree with you.

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My problem, the legislative,

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we keep on putting assessments.

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I like assessments.

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I had assessments all my life and when I was your age

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as a kid.

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We called 'em Duke, we call 'em Stanford,

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we call 'em Iowa Assessments.

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The problem you're talking about, it's a high stakes testing.

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Which is why you're having reviews everyday.

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Thank you for being here today.

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<v ->Again, we always love hearing from our young people,</v>

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so it's great to have Erin and Jackie both here

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with us today.

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We appreciate it.

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Okay, that's the end of our testimony.

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Members, if you'll please turn to Page Romanette 9

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in your agenda books

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which lists the items on the consent agenda.

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The items are, I'm gonna read each of them.

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Adoption of review of 19 TAC, Chapter 101, Assessment.

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Number Two, proposed repeal of 19 TAC, Chapter 114

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Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

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for Languages other than English,

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Subchapter A, Elementary,

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114.1 and 114.2,

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Subchapter B, Middle School, 114.11 and 114.12,

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and Subchapter C, High School, 114.21 and 114.29,

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for first reading and filing authorization.

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Number Three, consideration of penalties

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related to instructional materials contracts.

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Number Four, adoption of review

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of 19 TAC, Chapter 109, Budgeting, Accounting,

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and Auditing.

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Number Five, ratification of the purchases

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and sales of the investment portfolio

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of the permanent school fund for the months

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of December 2016, January and February 2017.

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Number Six, adoption of an annual report

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on the status of the bond guarantee program.

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Number Seven, decision on real estate investments.

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Number Eight, approval of the selection of a firm

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to provide investment management services

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for long only.

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Passive international developed and emerging market equity

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for the Texas Permanent School Fund

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and authorization for contract execution

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by the Commissioner of Education.

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Number Nine, recommendation for appointments

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to the Boy's Ranch Independent School District

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Board of Trustees.

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In approving the consent agenda,

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we will be approving all the items listed.

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I want to make sure there was no additional things

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on the consent.

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Yes, Mr. Bradley?

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<v Mr. Bradley>I only heard half of it</v>

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but I wanted to clarify.

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You had an earlier item, was it proposed amendments

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to 19 TAC, Chapter 109, Budgeting, Accounting, and Auditing

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Subchapter D?
<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v Mr. Bradley>That is not on the consent agenda.</v>

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Please withdraw it.

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It needs to be voted on the board.

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<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

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With that objection, we'll go ahead and withdraw that one.

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So, what you'll be doing is approving

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this consent agenda--

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I'm sorry, Ms. Miller.

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Thank you, Ms. Miller.

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Please note in the minutes that Ms. Miller

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has recused herself.

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We will be adopting all of the consent agenda items

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with the exception of Number Four

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on Page Romanette 10, just to be sure.

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Everyone's got that correctly?

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And Item Number 4.

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If there's no objection, the consent agenda

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will be approved.

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Hearing none, it's approved.

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Members, what I'd like to do because we had some work

00:27:29.781 --> 00:27:32.736
that we've been trying to get done with the

00:27:32.736 --> 00:27:34.998
Committee of the Full Board minutes,

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you'll get a lot of moving parts this week.

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If there's no objections, we're gonna go ahead

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and do the other committee items first.

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Which is on

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the Committee of Instruction

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would be the first one, if committee chairs

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are available to go ahead and get started on that.

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I just think it'd be better

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and then we'll do the Committee of the Full Board last.

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So, Committee on Instruction.

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Ms. Melton-Malone.

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<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

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If you will turn to Page 2 in your

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Committee on Instruction minutes.

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I'm sorry, Page 3

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is the first one we have.

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I kept trying to make two one but it wasn't.

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On Page 3, middle of the page.

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On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

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I move that the State Board of Education,

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by an affirmative vote of 2/3

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of the members of the board,

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approve for second reading and final adoption,

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proposed new 19 TAC, Chapter 114,

00:28:33.582 --> 00:28:35.341
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

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for Languages Other than English

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Subchapter C, High School, 114.53,

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Advanced Language for Career Applications, one credit,

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with an effective date of 20 days after filing

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as adopted with the Texas register as amended.

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<v ->It is moved that State Board of Education</v>

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approve for second reading and filing.

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Am I on the right item here?

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Yeah.

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Second reading and final adoption

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the proposed new 19 TAC, Chapter 114

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Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

00:29:12.198 --> 00:29:13.262
for Languages Other than English,

00:29:13.262 --> 00:29:15.863
Subchapter C, High School,

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114.53, Advanced Language for Career Applications,

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one credit, with an effective date of 20 days

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after filing as adopted with the Texas register

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as amended.

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To set an earlier effective date requires 2/3 vote

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of the member, which, of course, is 10 in the affirmative.

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Are you ready for the question?

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All those in favor, raise your hand.

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All those opposed, raise your hand.

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Okay,

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it's unanimous.

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With 2/3 of the members in the affirmative,

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the board has approved for second reading

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and filing of adoption the new 19 TAC, Chapter 114

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Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

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for Languages Other than English, Subchapter C, High School,

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114.53, Advanced Language for Career Applications,

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with an effective date of 20 days after filing

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as adopted with the Texas register.

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Okay?

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<v ->[Mrs. Melton-Malone] All right.</v>

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On Page 4,

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Number 4 on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

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I move that the State Board of Education

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approve for second reading and final adoption

00:30:23.103 --> 00:30:26.973
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 115,

00:30:26.973 --> 00:30:29.432
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

00:30:29.432 --> 00:30:32.773
for Health Education, Subchapter B, Middle School,

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and Subchapter C, High School,

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with an effective date of August 28, 2017.

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<v ->It's moved that State Board of Education</v>

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approve for second reading and final adoption

00:30:45.275 --> 00:30:48.331
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 115,

00:30:48.331 --> 00:30:49.521
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

00:30:49.521 --> 00:30:52.331
for Health Education, Subchapter B, Middle School,

00:30:52.331 --> 00:30:53.653
and Subchapter C, High School,

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with an effective date of August 28, 2017.

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Are you ready for the question?

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A majority vote's all that's required

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to adopt this particular item for second reading.

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All those in favor say, "Aye."

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<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

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<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

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Ayes have it,

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and the amendments are adopted.

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<v ->All right, Number Five.</v>

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On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

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I move that the State Board of Education

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approve for a period of five years,

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the following innovative courses

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that do not fall within any of the subject areas

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of the Foundation or Enrichment Curriculum:

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Coca-Cola Valued Youth Cross-Age Tutoring Program,

00:31:33.477 --> 00:31:37.644
Making Connections 1 and 2, and Peacekeepers 1 and 2.

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<v ->So, the motion before us is that it was moved</v>

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that the State Board of Education approve

00:31:46.527 --> 00:31:49.087
for a period of five years the following innovative courses

00:31:49.087 --> 00:31:51.934
that do not fall within any of the subject areas

00:31:51.934 --> 00:31:54.721
of the Foundation or Enrichment Curriculum:

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Coca-Cola Valued Youth Cross-Age Tutoring Program,

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Making Connections 1 and 2, and Peacekeepers 1 and 2.

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Are you ready for the question?

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All those in favor say, "Aye."

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<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

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<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

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Ayes have it.

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<v ->That concludes the Committee on Instruction report.</v>

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<v ->Thank you, Ms. Melton-Malone, we appreciate it.</v>

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And I believe it's Mr. Bradley.

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<v ->We have but one item that needs board attention.</v>

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Under School Finance, it was an action item,

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proposed amendment to 19 TAC, Chapter 109,

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Budgeting, Accounting, and Auditing, Subchapter D,

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Uniform Bank Bid or Request Proposal

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Request for Proposal and Depository Contracts, 109.51,

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and the Uniform Depository Bank Bid or Proposal Form.

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I ask for approval.

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We need 2/3 vote to make it effective immediately.

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<v ->It's moved the State Board of Education</v>

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approve for second reading and final adoption

00:32:59.107 --> 00:33:03.084
proposed amendment to 19 TAC, Chapter 109,

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Budgeting, Accounting, and Auditing

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Subchapter D, Uniform Bank Bid or Request

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for Proposal and Depository Contract, 109.51,

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Uniform Depository Bank Bid or Proposal Form,

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with an effective date of 20 days

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after filing as adopted with the Texas register

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and, of course, as Mr. Bradley said,

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the 2/3 vote would be needed for an earlier effective date.

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All those in favor, raise your hand.

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Those opposed, raise your hand.

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All right, with 2/3 that motion's adopted.

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<v ->Madame Chair, there is but one item</v>

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that give a little information on.

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We made another real estate investment.

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The Permanent School Fund is contributing 75 million dollars

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into another commercial real estate project

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across the country.

00:33:58.337 --> 00:33:59.997
What is interesting is that this one

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is in senior housing.

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Seems to be a growth market (laughing).

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Thank you, Mr. Bradley.</v>

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<v Mr. Bradley>You may be living in one of your own.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Bradley, I just want to make sure that item</v>

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that was pulled from consent,

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what is happening with that?

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<v ->That's the one--
<v ->Oh, that's the one</v>

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we just did, okay.

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So, it was put in correctly, okay.

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I just want to make sure.

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<v Mr. Bradley>You had listed it in the consent originally.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, yeah, okay, I gotcha.</v>

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I just want to make sure that I wasn't missing something,

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and board members didn't know.

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Thank you very much.

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All right, Committee on School Initiatives.

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<v ->Members, if you'll look on the very back page</v>

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of your minutes,

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you'll find the Committee on School Initiatives.

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We had one action item.

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It was moved by Mr. Cortez and carried unanimously

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so I'd like to recommend that the State Board of Education,

00:34:58.923 --> 00:35:02.661
by an affirmative vote of 2/3 of the members of the board,

00:35:02.661 --> 00:35:04.839
approve for a second reading and final adoption,

00:35:04.839 --> 00:35:08.232
the proposed amendment to 19 TAC, Chapter 30,

00:35:08.232 --> 00:35:10.570
Administration, Subchapter A,

00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:12.827
State Board of Education General Provisions

00:35:12.827 --> 00:35:16.981
Section 30.1, petition for adoption of rule changes

00:35:16.981 --> 00:35:19.406
with an effective date of 20 days after filing

00:35:19.406 --> 00:35:23.068
as adopted with the Texas register.

00:35:23.068 --> 00:35:24.792
<v ->It's moved the State Board of Education</v>

00:35:24.792 --> 00:35:27.038
approve for second reading and final adoption

00:35:27.038 --> 00:35:30.243
the proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 30,

00:35:30.243 --> 00:35:31.843
Administration, Subchapter A,

00:35:31.843 --> 00:35:35.641
State Board of Education General Provisions 30.1,

00:35:35.641 --> 00:35:37.474
Petition for Adoption of Rule Changes,

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with an effective date of 20 days after filing

00:35:39.725 --> 00:35:41.689
as adopted with the Texas register.

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Of course, to set an earlier effective date,

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requires a vote of 2/3 of members.

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Are you ready for the question?

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All those in favor, raise your hand.

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All those opposed, raise your hand.

00:35:55.118 --> 00:35:55.951
Okay.

00:35:57.703 --> 00:36:01.870
We had at least 2/3 so the motion's adopted.

00:36:03.617 --> 00:36:06.040
Did you have anything else, Ms. Cargill?

00:36:06.040 --> 00:36:07.290
Okay, terrific.

00:36:09.929 --> 00:36:12.652
Members, I just want to take a super quick break

00:36:12.652 --> 00:36:14.402
before we get into the next item

00:36:14.402 --> 00:36:16.200
just to make sure we've got everything ready

00:36:16.200 --> 00:36:19.820
for the discussion of Committee of the Full Board.

00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:22.227
Do you guys want 10 minutes?

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What should we do?

00:36:23.235 --> 00:36:25.402
<v Man>Whatever you want.</v>

00:36:26.277 --> 00:36:27.302
<v ->Okay, I just didn't know if you wanted</v>

00:36:27.302 --> 00:36:28.539
to make it super quick.

00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:31.956
Okay, let's reconvene at 25 minutes 'til.

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So, 10:35.

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First, let's go ahead and continue

00:36:55.726 --> 00:36:58.809
with our Committee of the Full Board.

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Mr. Rowley.

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<v Mr. Rowley>Okay, members, we are on the minutes</v>

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of the Committee of the Full Board

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for Wednesday,

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April the 18th,

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Page 8.

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<v ->I'm sorry.
<v ->Madam Chair?</v>

00:37:17.964 --> 00:37:19.478
<v ->Yes?
<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

00:37:19.478 --> 00:37:20.708
Can you go back?

00:37:20.708 --> 00:37:24.027
We think that you actually did miss an item

00:37:24.027 --> 00:37:26.303
that was on Consent, Chapter 109.

00:37:26.303 --> 00:37:27.273
You had two items.

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One was an adoption of the rule review

00:37:29.994 --> 00:37:32.861
and the other was the one that you took action on.

00:37:32.861 --> 00:37:35.560
We think that you need to still take action

00:37:35.560 --> 00:37:39.179
to adopt the review of Chapter 109.

00:37:39.179 --> 00:37:43.346
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Bradley, are you in the back there?</v>

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No.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

00:37:52.812 --> 00:37:54.562
<v ->That's what we asked him and he said no.</v>

00:37:54.562 --> 00:37:56.834
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, Mr. Bradley, there were two parts</v>

00:37:56.834 --> 00:37:57.700
of that amendment.

00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:01.411
That Consent Agenda was actually a different item.

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And Monica just explained.

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Could you say that one more time, Ms. Monica?

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<v ->We believe that the item on the Consent Agenda</v>

00:38:07.468 --> 00:38:10.360
is the adoption of the review,

00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:13.110
the Sunset Review of Chapter 109.

00:38:13.979 --> 00:38:18.193
The item that you took action on was an amendment

00:38:18.193 --> 00:38:19.443
to Chapter 109.

00:38:20.510 --> 00:38:23.084
So, we think you still need to take action to adopt

00:38:23.084 --> 00:38:24.001
the review.

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It's on little X in your agenda book.

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<v ->I move for adoption of the review</v>

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of 19 TAC, Chapter 109, Budgeting, Accounting,

00:38:47.815 --> 00:38:48.898
and Auditing.

00:38:54.086 --> 00:38:55.658
<v ->Are you ready for the question?</v>

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All those in favor, raise your hand.

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All those opposed, raise your hand.

00:39:02.116 --> 00:39:03.247
Okay, motion carries.

00:39:03.247 --> 00:39:04.228
<v ->Thank you.
<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Thank you for that cleanup, staff,

00:39:05.436 --> 00:39:07.618
really appreciate it.

00:39:07.618 --> 00:39:09.959
<v ->Thank you.
<v ->Yes, now, Mr. Rowley.</v>

00:39:09.959 --> 00:39:11.537
<v ->Okay, we're back then on the Committee</v>

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of the Full Board minutes from Wednesday,

00:39:15.764 --> 00:39:17.181
bottom of Page 8.

00:39:19.613 --> 00:39:23.780
You'll see the word "vote" right there at the very bottom.

00:39:24.866 --> 00:39:27.366
Page 8 of Wednesday's minutes.

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Not Tuesday but Wednesday.

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<v Man>Item Number 4, right?</v>

00:39:37.031 --> 00:39:39.281
<v ->Yeah, it's Item Number 4.</v>

00:39:40.433 --> 00:39:43.573
It's on page, the bottom of Page 8, the word "vote."

00:39:43.573 --> 00:39:44.892
See where it says "vote," okay.

00:39:44.892 --> 00:39:45.936
It's where we are.

00:39:45.936 --> 00:39:47.564
It's recommended State Board of Education

00:39:47.564 --> 00:39:50.205
approve for second reading and final adoption

00:39:50.205 --> 00:39:53.831
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 112,

00:39:53.831 --> 00:39:56.313
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science,

00:39:56.313 --> 00:40:00.037
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

00:40:00.037 --> 00:40:03.454
and Subchapter C, High School, as amended.

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Let the games begin.

00:40:08.621 --> 00:40:10.489
<v ->(chuckles) Let the games begin, yes.</v>

00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:12.189
I think that, were there some amendments?

00:40:12.189 --> 00:40:13.669
I didn't know if members had amendments.

00:40:13.669 --> 00:40:14.586
Mr. Mercer.

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<v ->Thank you, members.</v>

00:40:16.815 --> 00:40:20.565
In that same packet on Page 2 for April 19th,

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there's several phone calls, emails, communications,

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threats.

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On Page 2, the very bottom,

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it's for Grade 1, which is section 112.11.

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We had added "descriptive observational."

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It's the second to the last sentence,

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"outdoor descriptive observational."

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I'm moving we delete "descriptive observational."

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<v ->Any discussion?</v>

00:40:51.946 --> 00:40:53.279
Yes, Mr. Cortez.

00:40:55.330 --> 00:40:57.212
<v ->Is that the only area that that was in</v>

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or is it gonna apply to any others?

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I'm not sure if that's one where we did it

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through multiple grades or that's a standalone grade.

00:41:06.552 --> 00:41:08.213
<v ->Because it's in a different standard,</v>

00:41:08.213 --> 00:41:11.091
we need to take each one up, is that correct?

00:41:11.091 --> 00:41:11.932
I think we have to take it in

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'cause it's an actual different standard.

00:41:14.389 --> 00:41:15.670
Okay, thank you.

00:41:15.670 --> 00:41:18.160
Good question, though.

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Okay, is there any objection

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to removing "descriptive observational?"

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<v ->Yes, Mr. Rowley.
<v ->Why?</v>

00:41:25.818 --> 00:41:27.869
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Rowley wants to know why.</v>

00:41:27.869 --> 00:41:28.702
<v ->Why?</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Mercer or Ms. Cargill, either one.</v>

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I know you guys both worked on it.

00:41:36.649 --> 00:41:39.180
<v ->They felt the word "outdoor investigations,"</v>

00:41:39.180 --> 00:41:41.022
in fact, I should've prefaced, Madam Chair,

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I do have six small changes in there

00:41:43.964 --> 00:41:45.402
to answer Mr. Cortez, probably,

00:41:45.402 --> 00:41:47.438
they felt that "outdoor investigations"

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was enough and this might be limiting.

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"Descriptive" might be limiting.

00:41:51.225 --> 00:41:52.887
There are, you know, three kinds of investigations

00:41:52.887 --> 00:41:54.529
and this might limit it to one type.

00:41:54.529 --> 00:41:57.217
So, they want it to just say "outdoor investigations,"

00:41:57.217 --> 00:41:58.451
and there are three kinds of investigations,

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and they could have all three.

00:42:00.458 --> 00:42:01.526
Thank you, good question.

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<v ->Instead of being, in essence, descriptive,</v>

00:42:04.184 --> 00:42:05.934
it would be limiting.

00:42:10.328 --> 00:42:14.141
It was over, let me see, the motion...

00:42:14.141 --> 00:42:17.385
Okay, so it was over three grades, correct?

00:42:17.385 --> 00:42:21.552
Three grades, yeah, 'cause it was in Chapter 112.11

00:42:22.766 --> 00:42:24.266
112.12 and 112.13,

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right?

00:42:30.385 --> 00:42:33.461
<v Woman>We're not there yet.</v>

00:42:33.461 --> 00:42:34.323
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:42:34.323 --> 00:42:37.512
<v ->Now, we're in 112, which is Grade 1--</v>

00:42:37.512 --> 00:42:40.277
<v ->Oh, okay, I' reading the wrong one that's what it is.</v>

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Okay.

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<v Man>Bottom of Page 2.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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Well, that's what I'm asking.

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Okay, all right.

00:42:55.784 --> 00:42:57.177
I thought I was right.

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<v Man>You're like me the other day.</v>

00:42:58.472 --> 00:43:01.972
<v ->(laughing) I was right.</v>

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Is there any objection to deleting that

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"descriptive observational" from those three?

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Okay, motion carries.

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<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

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On Page 3, the second section, has motion and vote.

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It's also--
<v ->Madam Chair?</v>

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<v ->I'm sorry.
<v ->I apologize.</v>

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I know that we had a number of amendments

00:43:24.876 --> 00:43:27.214
that got sent in yesterday.

00:43:27.214 --> 00:43:30.131
I didn't pay good enough attention.

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I think we need to make sure, if these amendments

00:43:34.547 --> 00:43:36.558
were not sent in in advance,

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that you need to approve by 2/3 vote according to your rule.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>We probably should take</v>

00:43:46.769 --> 00:43:48.801
an actual vote, though.

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Shall we vote?

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<v Mr. Overbey>You're both correct.</v>

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(laughing)

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That's two in a row for me.

00:43:56.612 --> 00:43:57.445
Monica's right, though.

00:43:57.445 --> 00:43:59.299
We do need to make sure that this was,

00:43:59.299 --> 00:44:03.805
I would just ask Scott if honestly was this posted.

00:44:03.805 --> 00:44:05.688
If they say it was posted, we'll go with it.

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Otherwise we'll need to suspend the rule.

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<v ->On advice of our parliamentarian,</v>

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was this posted to do this amendment?

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<v ->No.
<v ->Okay.</v>

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Then let's go ahead and do a 2/3, which we did approve it.

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<v Mr. Overbey>But you did it by unanimous consent</v>

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which covers it.
<v ->Which covers it.</v>

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So, I don't need to recover it is what I'm saying.

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<v Mr. Overbey>But the next one, let's do it that way.</v>

00:44:30.249 --> 00:44:32.506
<v ->But the next one, we'll do it.</v>

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All right, Mr. Mercer, I'm sorry I interrupted you.

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Go ahead and go to the next one.

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<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

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On Page 3, the second motion in vote,

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you'll see down underlined again, "descriptive observational,"

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the same rationale.

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This is also Grade 1, 112.11,

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Grade 2, 112.2,

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and Grade 3, 112.13, to delete "descriptive observational."

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Again, was this one posted?</v>

00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.218
<v ->This was not posted.</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>So, we do need a 2/3 vote in order</v>

00:45:00.005 --> 00:45:01.714
to adopt this one.

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<v ->The second motion in vote.</v>

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<v ->Same motion as we just carried.</v>

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Is there any objection to considering that amendment?

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Hearing none.

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All in favor say, "Aye."

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<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

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<v ->Okay, next one.</v>

00:45:19.934 --> 00:45:24.101
<v ->Madam Chair, on Page 4, almost right in the middle.</v>

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You're gonna see this and don't laugh

00:45:26.942 --> 00:45:31.375
'cause I didn't laugh. Motion and Vote, after back and forth, we decided to--

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We had a question about weight and mass

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and what was appropriate.

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It was determined just to delete the word "weight."

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So, you'll see in the middle of Motion and Vote,

00:45:40.224 --> 00:45:41.831
"Within the physical environment students expand

00:45:41.831 --> 00:45:45.101
"to understand properties of objects such as"

00:45:45.101 --> 00:45:46.485
delete "weight,"

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and just go, "such as temperature, shape, and flexibility."

00:45:50.252 --> 00:45:53.252
<v ->This motion failed, though, right?</v>

00:45:57.791 --> 00:45:59.541
It says failed.
<v ->Oh.</v>

00:46:03.825 --> 00:46:06.414
<v ->We'll just fail it again.</v>

00:46:06.414 --> 00:46:07.631
We're agreeing with the fail, okay.

00:46:07.631 --> 00:46:08.548
Keep going.

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Mr. Rowley, can you help?

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<v ->Page 5, the third Motion and Vote from the bottom.</v>

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Yes, on Page 5 of the minutes.

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It starts with "scientific investigation and reasoning."

00:46:27.115 --> 00:46:29.306
Again, they're asking us to delete

00:46:29.306 --> 00:46:32.333
where it says "outdoor descriptive investigations,"

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delete "descriptive."

00:46:33.801 --> 00:46:35.474
Again, there are three types of investigations,

00:46:35.474 --> 00:46:37.476
they want it just to say "outdoor investigation."

00:46:37.476 --> 00:46:40.007
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So, this is, essentially, same kind of--</v>

00:46:40.007 --> 00:46:41.742
<v ->Same kind of thing.</v>

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It keeps everything in alignment.

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The word "descriptive."

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<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Rowley.</v>

00:46:50.526 --> 00:46:54.641
<v ->Actually, that's the one right above that.</v>

00:46:54.641 --> 00:46:55.671
Maybe that's one.

00:46:55.671 --> 00:46:57.149
If you go, it's the fourth one.

00:46:57.149 --> 00:46:59.999
One, two, three, fourth one from the bottom.

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That's where "descriptive" is added.

00:47:01.696 --> 00:47:04.482
The third one from the bottom, we added "practices."

00:47:04.482 --> 00:47:07.355
<v ->Okay, Mr. Mercer, as you're making these,</v>

00:47:07.355 --> 00:47:09.249
instead of just saying fourth one from the bottom,

00:47:09.249 --> 00:47:12.793
would you read exactly what the amendment would do there,

00:47:12.793 --> 00:47:13.840
which amendment it is,

00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.527
to make sure staff can keep up with

00:47:15.527 --> 00:47:17.610
exactly what we're doing.

00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:20.702
<v ->It's actually the exact same one.</v>

00:47:20.702 --> 00:47:21.702
It's 112.4 (B)(2).

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That's the one where you split the question?

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You're right.

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That's why the wording is, "The scientific investigation

00:47:32.251 --> 00:47:34.054
"of reasoning, the student uses scientific inquiry

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"methods," "scientific practices," I'm sorry,

00:47:37.263 --> 00:47:41.333
"including laboratory and outdoor investigations."

00:47:41.333 --> 00:47:45.095
We previously added the word "practices."

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>No, this is "descriptive."</v>

00:47:48.175 --> 00:47:52.806
<v ->We're deleting the word "descriptive," how's that?</v>

00:47:52.806 --> 00:47:53.815
Yes.

00:47:53.815 --> 00:47:55.341
<v ->Okay, staff, I just want to make sure</v>

00:47:55.341 --> 00:47:56.647
you know where we are.

00:47:56.647 --> 00:47:58.208
<v ->Is that clear?
<v ->They're clear.</v>

00:47:58.208 --> 00:48:00.458
'Cause they gotta be clear.

00:48:01.724 --> 00:48:03.322
<v ->So, there's two areas?</v>

00:48:03.322 --> 00:48:05.712
We're only dealing with one at the moment, right?

00:48:05.712 --> 00:48:07.784
<v ->Right now, correct.</v>

00:48:07.784 --> 00:48:09.329
<v ->There's the one that he's talking about</v>

00:48:09.329 --> 00:48:11.617
and right below there's another motion,

00:48:11.617 --> 00:48:14.303
same thing, the word "descriptive."

00:48:14.303 --> 00:48:15.691
<v ->I think he's gonna go to "practices."</v>

00:48:15.691 --> 00:48:17.008
I think he just got a little,

00:48:17.008 --> 00:48:18.355
we just got a little off.

00:48:18.355 --> 00:48:20.047
The only thing we're talking about right now

00:48:20.047 --> 00:48:23.209
is the motion to strike "descriptive."

00:48:23.209 --> 00:48:24.543
Does everybody see where that is?

00:48:24.543 --> 00:48:25.376
Where it's underlined?

00:48:25.376 --> 00:48:26.447
It's underlined.

00:48:26.447 --> 00:48:29.095
It's the fourth motion up on that page.

00:48:29.095 --> 00:48:31.537
I just want to make sure everyone's clear.

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<v Mr. Cortez>Up or down?</v>

00:48:33.141 --> 00:48:34.851
<v ->Well, if I'm going up the page,</v>

00:48:34.851 --> 00:48:35.790
it would be the fourth one.

00:48:35.790 --> 00:48:38.227
<v ->Madam Chair, let me see if this helps.</v>

00:48:38.227 --> 00:48:41.423
I know this is confusing, but you made an amendment

00:48:41.423 --> 00:48:43.113
and then you made another amendment

00:48:43.113 --> 00:48:44.863
to the same statement,

00:48:46.479 --> 00:48:49.438
and so we showed the one that had already carried.

00:48:49.438 --> 00:48:51.081
So, where you see the underline,

00:48:51.081 --> 00:48:53.719
our understanding is that that word will go away.

00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.118
It would have the effect of going away

00:48:57.118 --> 00:48:59.099
with respect to the second statement as well.

00:48:59.099 --> 00:49:01.216
So, it doesn't really matter which one you're looking at,

00:49:01.216 --> 00:49:03.176
it would go away from both.

00:49:03.176 --> 00:49:05.014
<v ->Is there any objection to considering</v>

00:49:05.014 --> 00:49:06.764
removing "descriptive?"

00:49:11.102 --> 00:49:14.105
All those in favor of removing that say, "Aye."

00:49:14.105 --> 00:49:15.243
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

00:49:15.243 --> 00:49:17.049
<v ->Okay, all opposed?</v>

00:49:17.049 --> 00:49:18.361
Okay, no opposition.

00:49:18.361 --> 00:49:19.528
<v ->Madam Chair?</v>

00:49:23.220 --> 00:49:25.048
I think there was a question

00:49:25.048 --> 00:49:27.161
about where you had added "weight."

00:49:27.161 --> 00:49:29.255
If you look at the top of Page 5,

00:49:29.255 --> 00:49:33.514
you've added it in the first two motions on that page.

00:49:33.514 --> 00:49:35.476
<v ->No, you didn't.
<v ->Yes, we have.</v>

00:49:35.476 --> 00:49:37.234
<v ->I don't know if that's what Mr. Mercer</v>

00:49:37.234 --> 00:49:38.761
may have been looking for.

00:49:38.761 --> 00:49:42.289
<v ->Yeah, Mr. Mercer, were you trying to remove "weight"</v>

00:49:42.289 --> 00:49:45.672
in the first top two on page five?

00:49:45.672 --> 00:49:46.965
Oh, that's next.

00:49:46.965 --> 00:49:48.555
<v Mr. Rowley>Actually, it failed in the second one.</v>

00:49:48.555 --> 00:49:51.330
So, it's only in the first one.

00:49:51.330 --> 00:49:52.757
<v ->Yeah, okay.</v>

00:49:52.757 --> 00:49:54.156
So, you only have to make the one motion

00:49:54.156 --> 00:49:55.744
at the top of the page.

00:49:55.744 --> 00:49:57.914
<v ->In the top of page 5,</v>

00:49:57.914 --> 00:50:00.738
where it says "such as weight," we added "weight."

00:50:00.738 --> 00:50:02.637
You see underlined there top of Page 5?

00:50:02.637 --> 00:50:04.974
Motion and Vote, you see we underlined "weight."

00:50:04.974 --> 00:50:06.938
Now we're going back and just get rid of,

00:50:06.938 --> 00:50:10.438
"such as weight comma," delete "weight comma."

00:50:14.648 --> 00:50:16.205
It was "mass and weight."

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Finally they said just delete both of 'em.

00:50:19.316 --> 00:50:21.316
<v ->Any objection to that?</v>

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All in favor say, "Aye."

00:50:24.447 --> 00:50:25.299
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

00:50:25.299 --> 00:50:26.274
<v ->All opposed?</v>

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No opposition.

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<v ->The last two that I have for Grade K5, on Page 6.</v>

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<v ->Okay, Mr. Mercer, did you skip the "practices" one?</v>

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I thought you were doing a "practices" one?

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Okay, all right, let's keep going.

00:50:40.721 --> 00:50:41.721
<v ->On Page 6,</v>

00:50:44.232 --> 00:50:47.532
the middle of the third, which is Motion and Vote.

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It says, "In Grade 5, underline descriptive, correlational,

00:50:50.780 --> 00:50:52.754
"experimental investigations."

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Those ae the three types of investigations.

00:50:54.131 --> 00:50:55.560
They're asking now to delete all three

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just put, in Grade 5 "scientific investigations."

00:51:00.034 --> 00:51:02.855
Again, the motion is to delete "descriptive, correlational,

00:51:02.855 --> 00:51:07.022
"experimental" and just put "scientific investigations."

00:51:08.633 --> 00:51:09.837
<v ->Does everybody know where we are?</v>

00:51:09.837 --> 00:51:11.932
I just want to make sure everyone knows.

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<v Mr. Mercer>Page 6.</v>

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<v ->Yes, Ms. Miller?</v>

00:51:17.867 --> 00:51:21.617
Ms. Miller, could you put on your microphone?

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<v ->What I can't understand is</v>

00:51:28.942 --> 00:51:32.569
why are we taking it away when it's been added?

00:51:32.569 --> 00:51:36.208
Didn't anybody debate it or talk about it before?

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>We added it on Wednesday but</v>

00:51:40.258 --> 00:51:42.201
on the final vote on Friday,

00:51:42.201 --> 00:51:43.882
they decided that they would

00:51:43.882 --> 00:51:47.032
instead of adding it, they've decided to change it

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to scientific.

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<v ->Who's they?</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Barbara or Mr. Mercer,</v>

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can either one of you speak to that particular problem

00:51:57.458 --> 00:51:59.125
with that amendment?

00:52:00.818 --> 00:52:03.085
Ms. Miller wants to know who "they" are.

00:52:03.085 --> 00:52:04.209
I know you received feedback.

00:52:04.209 --> 00:52:06.352
I'm just asking if you could clarify.

00:52:06.352 --> 00:52:08.527
<v ->We had several emails from teachers in the field.</v>

00:52:08.527 --> 00:52:12.480
I know Mr. Cortez had a phone call on speaker.

00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:16.727
We talked to Sandra West and Ken Heidrich and

00:52:16.727 --> 00:52:18.877
other teachers, and they feel like

00:52:18.877 --> 00:52:23.044
"scientific" is more broad than having those three words.

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We listened to them.

00:52:31.169 --> 00:52:33.452
<v ->But she only got six amendments, I guess.</v>

00:52:33.452 --> 00:52:35.535
So, it's not a whole lot.

00:52:37.533 --> 00:52:38.860
<v ->Again, the motion is in Grade 5</v>

00:52:38.860 --> 00:52:41.134
to delete "descriptive, correlational, experimental,"

00:52:41.134 --> 00:52:43.624
insert the words "scientific investigations."

00:52:43.624 --> 00:52:44.713
<v ->Any objections?</v>

00:52:44.713 --> 00:52:46.335
All those in favor say, "Aye."

00:52:46.335 --> 00:52:47.287
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

00:52:47.287 --> 00:52:49.164
<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

00:52:49.164 --> 00:52:50.043
Okay.

00:52:50.043 --> 00:52:51.304
<v ->The next one, the bottom of the page,</v>

00:52:51.304 --> 00:52:52.559
just to keep it in alignment,

00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.572
you'll see the second little last sentence,

00:52:54.572 --> 00:52:58.030
"and outdoor." Again, just say "outdoor investigation"

00:52:58.030 --> 00:53:00.789
is to delete "descriptive, correlational, experimental."

00:53:00.789 --> 00:53:01.886
<v Ms. Miller>Are we still on Page 6?</v>

00:53:01.886 --> 00:53:03.649
<v ->Still on Page 6.</v>

00:53:03.649 --> 00:53:05.175
<v Mrs. Bahorich>You're not gonna put "scientific" there,</v>

00:53:05.175 --> 00:53:06.488
you're just gonna delete that.

00:53:06.488 --> 00:53:09.298
<v ->Just put "investigations."</v>

00:53:09.298 --> 00:53:12.256
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So, delete that addition as well.</v>

00:53:12.256 --> 00:53:13.321
Any objection?

00:53:13.321 --> 00:53:14.194
All those in favor say, "Aye."

00:53:14.194 --> 00:53:15.694
<v ->I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
<v ->I'm sorry, Ms. Miller?</v>

00:53:15.694 --> 00:53:17.968
<v ->You lost me, you lost me.</v>

00:53:17.968 --> 00:53:19.899
<v ->The bottom of Page 6.</v>

00:53:19.899 --> 00:53:23.145
The second to the last line where it has underlined

00:53:23.145 --> 00:53:24.228
"descriptive"--

00:53:25.528 --> 00:53:26.485
<v Ms. Miller>What is going with that?</v>

00:53:26.485 --> 00:53:28.104
<v Mrs. Bahorich>There is a lot of feedback.</v>

00:53:28.104 --> 00:53:29.291
<v ->Other ones must be on.</v>

00:53:29.291 --> 00:53:31.548
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Mercer, why don't you turn</v>

00:53:31.548 --> 00:53:33.157
your mic off, let me see.

00:53:33.157 --> 00:53:35.869
You might be getting interference over there.

00:53:35.869 --> 00:53:36.868
<v ->How 'bout now?</v>

00:53:36.868 --> 00:53:37.868
There we go.

00:53:40.215 --> 00:53:43.332
The bottom of Page 2, the second to last line.

00:53:43.332 --> 00:53:45.315
Page 6, I'm sorry, thank you.

00:53:45.315 --> 00:53:47.988
That was a test, y'all did well.

00:53:47.988 --> 00:53:50.820
Underlined "descriptive, correlational, experimental,"

00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:51.697
just delete those.

00:53:51.697 --> 00:53:55.030
We'll just say an "outdoor investigation."

00:53:56.988 --> 00:53:58.450
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Ms. Miller, do you have that one?</v>

00:53:58.450 --> 00:54:00.667
<v ->Barbara, do I want to go with this?</v>

00:54:00.667 --> 00:54:02.334
Or is this later on?

00:54:05.135 --> 00:54:07.616
<v ->Ms. Miller, is everybody clear?</v>

00:54:07.616 --> 00:54:09.042
Okay, I know, it's hard to keep up.

00:54:09.042 --> 00:54:11.352
So we want to make sure everybody's comfortable

00:54:11.352 --> 00:54:12.641
with where we are.

00:54:12.641 --> 00:54:16.758
So, any objection to deleting descriptive, correlational,

00:54:16.758 --> 00:54:19.258
and experimental for 112.16(b)(2)?

00:54:23.754 --> 00:54:25.126
All those in favor say, "Aye."

00:54:25.126 --> 00:54:25.987
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

00:54:25.987 --> 00:54:27.444
<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

00:54:27.444 --> 00:54:28.280
No objections?

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:29.737
Okay.

00:54:29.737 --> 00:54:31.841
<v ->I had one last, if I could just do Grade 7,</v>

00:54:31.841 --> 00:54:34.363
if that's appropriate.

00:54:34.363 --> 00:54:36.021
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Which page?</v>

00:54:36.021 --> 00:54:37.547
<v ->I-62.</v>

00:54:37.547 --> 00:54:38.380
<v ->Members,</v>

00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.456
the audio/visual folks think

00:54:42.456 --> 00:54:44.876
that somebody's cellphone is sitting too close

00:54:44.876 --> 00:54:46.459
to this microphone.

00:54:47.735 --> 00:54:51.902
So, they're thinking that's what's causing the feedback.

00:54:54.274 --> 00:54:57.914
That took some ringing away so that's helpful.

00:54:57.914 --> 00:54:59.896
<v Mr. Mercer>It's on 7th Grade in your books.</v>

00:54:59.896 --> 00:55:01.396
It's on Page I-62.

00:55:02.524 --> 00:55:04.422
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Where is it on our notes here?</v>

00:55:04.422 --> 00:55:05.485
<v ->It wasn't on our notes.</v>

00:55:05.485 --> 00:55:06.731
We missed one.

00:55:06.731 --> 00:55:09.922
All the changes we had for heat to be thermal.

00:55:09.922 --> 00:55:13.215
Remember we did all those heat to be?

00:55:13.215 --> 00:55:15.804
We found one place where we missed it in the 7th Grade.

00:55:15.804 --> 00:55:16.996
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, 7th Grade, I'm sorry,</v>

00:55:16.996 --> 00:55:19.329
where is it in our notebook?

00:55:20.816 --> 00:55:24.066
<v ->On I-62
<v ->In your notebook Ms. Miller.</v>

00:55:25.497 --> 00:55:28.052
<v ->You'll see Section 7 on Page I-62,</v>

00:55:28.052 --> 00:55:30.385
right in the middle, has 7A.

00:55:32.226 --> 00:55:34.524
Again, Page I-62 in the middle of your book,

00:55:34.524 --> 00:55:36.576
number 7A, where it begins with the words,

00:55:36.576 --> 00:55:40.413
"Illustrate the transformation of energy."

00:55:40.413 --> 00:55:42.878
In that section it has, "to heat and thermal,"

00:55:42.878 --> 00:55:44.952
and they're saying, to "thermal energy,"

00:55:44.952 --> 00:55:46.554
to delete, "heat and."

00:55:46.554 --> 00:55:47.926
That just aligns with everything we had

00:55:47.926 --> 00:55:49.593
throughout the TEKS.

00:55:51.484 --> 00:55:53.850
<v ->Okay, Mr. Mercer, tell me again 'cause I didn't catch it.</v>

00:55:53.850 --> 00:55:54.683
<v ->Sure.</v>

00:55:54.683 --> 00:55:56.016
On section I-62,

00:55:57.598 --> 00:55:59.979
and this is 7th Grade,

00:55:59.979 --> 00:56:04.146
but I-62, Number 7, begins with, "force, motion and energy."

00:56:06.337 --> 00:56:08.979
In Paragraph A, begins with,

00:56:08.979 --> 00:56:11.247
"illustrate a transformation."

00:56:11.247 --> 00:56:12.638
And you'll see there it has,

00:56:12.638 --> 00:56:14.947
"the energy to heat and thermal."

00:56:14.947 --> 00:56:17.445
We're just seeing "energy to thermal."

00:56:17.445 --> 00:56:18.336
<v ->"Energy to thermal."</v>

00:56:18.336 --> 00:56:22.233
So, we're striking, "to heat and," correct?

00:56:22.233 --> 00:56:23.105
No, no, no.

00:56:23.105 --> 00:56:24.682
We're striking, "heat and."

00:56:24.682 --> 00:56:25.852
Just "heat and."

00:56:25.852 --> 00:56:27.659
<v ->That's just in alignment consistently throughout the TEKS</v>

00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:28.512
what we have.

00:56:28.512 --> 00:56:30.756
<v ->Okay, was this posted?</v>

00:56:30.756 --> 00:56:31.638
<v Mr. Mercer>It was not posted, no.</v>

00:56:31.638 --> 00:56:34.524
<v ->Okay, we need 2/3 for this one, for sure.</v>

00:56:34.524 --> 00:56:35.941
Yes, Ms. Beltran?

00:56:37.770 --> 00:56:38.754
No, no, we're fine.

00:56:38.754 --> 00:56:40.352
I'm gonna repeat it, Ms. Miller.

00:56:40.352 --> 00:56:44.019
<v Ms. Beltran>I have a friendly amendment.</v>

00:56:45.543 --> 00:56:47.460
<v ->Yeah, we need to suspend the rules to consider</v>

00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:49.036
this amendment.

00:56:49.036 --> 00:56:51.616
All those in favor of suspending the rules say, "Aye."

00:56:51.616 --> 00:56:52.449
Oh, raise your hand.

00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:54.353
We have to raise our hand on this one

00:56:54.353 --> 00:56:56.936
'cause you need 2/3.

00:56:58.798 --> 00:57:00.864
Okay, we've got it.

00:57:00.864 --> 00:57:03.100
So, we can consider this amendment.

00:57:03.100 --> 00:57:04.017
Mr. Mercer.

00:57:05.109 --> 00:57:07.506
<v ->Again, to delete, "to heat,"</v>

00:57:07.506 --> 00:57:09.923
and just say, "thermal energy."

00:57:10.776 --> 00:57:13.388
<v Mrs. Bahorich>"Heat and," is what we're deleting.</v>

00:57:13.388 --> 00:57:14.660
"Heat and."

00:57:14.660 --> 00:57:17.034
<v ->We're deleting, "heat and," and we'll say,</v>

00:57:17.034 --> 00:57:18.506
"to thermal energy."

00:57:18.506 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mrs. Miller, I want to make sure.</v>

00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.384
Sue helped you out?

00:57:22.384 --> 00:57:24.393
Okay, terrific.

00:57:24.393 --> 00:57:26.264
Yes, Ms. Beltran?

00:57:26.264 --> 00:57:27.278
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

00:57:27.278 --> 00:57:28.979
I have a friendly amendment.

00:57:28.979 --> 00:57:32.346
I think you all have a copy of this letter

00:57:32.346 --> 00:57:35.269
from Shane Woods who's the president-elect

00:57:35.269 --> 00:57:39.529
for the Texas Science Education Leadership Association.

00:57:39.529 --> 00:57:42.135
<v Mrs. Bahorich>I don't have any letter.</v>

00:57:42.135 --> 00:57:43.885
<v ->I have a copy here.</v>

00:57:45.912 --> 00:57:47.883
I've got an extra copy if you don't.

00:57:47.883 --> 00:57:49.800
Sue, can you pass this?

00:57:51.027 --> 00:57:52.045
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yeah, I don't have this one.</v>

00:57:52.045 --> 00:57:54.351
<v ->She's getting it to you.</v>

00:57:54.351 --> 00:57:58.342
I apologize, I thought I gave it to you, Madam Chair.

00:57:58.342 --> 00:58:01.200
This is a group that has been following along.

00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:04.033
They have over 300 active members.

00:58:05.665 --> 00:58:07.801
The group is suggesting that we also delete,

00:58:07.801 --> 00:58:09.661
it's at the bottom of this page,

00:58:09.661 --> 00:58:12.345
"in the digestive system."

00:58:12.345 --> 00:58:13.804
<v ->Is this a separate amendment?</v>

00:58:13.804 --> 00:58:17.359
Let's take care of this one right here,

00:58:17.359 --> 00:58:19.495
and then we can move on to others.

00:58:19.495 --> 00:58:20.813
Let's just get through with Mr. Mercer,

00:58:20.813 --> 00:58:23.629
then we'll move on to yours.

00:58:23.629 --> 00:58:24.546
Mr. Mercer,

00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:29.912
so we can consider this, "heat and,"

00:58:30.746 --> 00:58:32.546
striking that.

00:58:32.546 --> 00:58:34.713
It's on page I-62 and now.

00:58:36.490 --> 00:58:38.352
<v Ms. Beltran>Madam Chair, I'm sorry.</v>

00:58:38.352 --> 00:58:41.935
On the other side, it's that same amendment

00:58:43.115 --> 00:58:44.515
on the other side of this page.

00:58:44.515 --> 00:58:47.004
<v ->Oh, it's on the other side, so sorry.</v>

00:58:47.004 --> 00:58:48.524
<v ->I'll introduce the other one as well</v>

00:58:48.524 --> 00:58:52.007
but this one also, the recommendation is to delete

00:58:52.007 --> 00:58:55.674
"in digestion," not indigestion, "in digestion."

00:58:57.735 --> 00:58:58.657
It's still a separate amendment?

00:58:58.657 --> 00:58:59.605
<v ->Still separate.</v>

00:58:59.605 --> 00:59:00.825
Even though it's the same TEK,

00:59:00.825 --> 00:59:02.456
let's just consider it separately.

00:59:02.456 --> 00:59:04.462
Then you can speak to it.

00:59:04.462 --> 00:59:08.572
So, all those in favor of deleting "heat and,"

00:59:08.572 --> 00:59:09.905
raise your hand.

00:59:14.116 --> 00:59:15.616
Okay, all opposed?

00:59:16.971 --> 00:59:17.892
Nobody raised their hand.

00:59:17.892 --> 00:59:19.157
Okay, so that carried.

00:59:19.157 --> 00:59:21.907
Okay, now, go ahead, Ms. Beltran.

00:59:22.933 --> 00:59:24.430
<v ->I apologize.</v>

00:59:24.430 --> 00:59:28.720
So, I'll actually go back up one student expectations.

00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:29.887
So, same page,

00:59:31.043 --> 00:59:31.876
I-62,

00:59:32.987 --> 00:59:33.820
Number 6.

00:59:39.044 --> 00:59:43.211
The recommendation is to amend "in the digestive system,"

00:59:45.581 --> 00:59:47.840
which is marked as--

00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:50.017
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Is that the same standard</v>

00:59:50.017 --> 00:59:50.850
or a different one.

00:59:50.850 --> 00:59:52.767
<v ->It's a different one.</v>

00:59:53.878 --> 00:59:55.936
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Oh, here, I got it, I got it.</v>

00:59:55.936 --> 00:59:57.207
Does everybody see it?

00:59:57.207 --> 00:59:58.957
It's 6B on Page I-62.

01:00:02.192 --> 01:00:03.359
So, on I-62...

01:00:08.285 --> 01:00:11.235
<v ->It's the same grade, it's a different student expectation.</v>

01:00:11.235 --> 01:00:12.466
It's number 6.

01:00:12.466 --> 01:00:14.607
<v ->Ms. Miller, it's I-62.</v>

01:00:14.607 --> 01:00:18.067
I just want to make sure you're looking in your book.

01:00:18.067 --> 01:00:21.437
Make sure you're looking at the right one.

01:00:21.437 --> 01:00:23.199
I just want to make sure everybody's got it,

01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:24.282
where we are.

01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.583
So, the question is, was this posted yesterday any time?

01:00:34.583 --> 01:00:35.482
Okay, so, it was not.

01:00:35.482 --> 01:00:40.072
So, it's gonna need a 2/3 to consider it.

01:00:40.072 --> 01:00:43.269
Is there any objection to considering the amendment?

01:00:43.269 --> 01:00:46.072
Okay, hearing none, go ahead.

01:00:46.072 --> 01:00:49.211
<v ->Then, right where we were, the last amendment--</v>

01:00:49.211 --> 01:00:52.516
<v ->Oh, wait a minute, we get a vote on it first.</v>

01:00:52.516 --> 01:00:55.036
We have to consider, because it wasn't posted,

01:00:55.036 --> 01:00:57.650
we have to make sure that 2/3 agree

01:00:57.650 --> 01:00:58.893
that it can be considered.

01:00:58.893 --> 01:01:01.226
Now we've got to approve it.

01:01:02.246 --> 01:01:03.390
No, no, that's not what I asked.

01:01:03.390 --> 01:01:06.628
I asked if we could consider it.

01:01:06.628 --> 01:01:10.795
But we haven't actually voted on the amendment itself.

01:01:12.151 --> 01:01:13.207
Yeah, but I didn't ask that.

01:01:13.207 --> 01:01:15.874
I asked if we could consider it.

01:01:16.791 --> 01:01:17.708
Okay, okay.

01:01:18.876 --> 01:01:20.959
I think I did that right.

01:01:25.731 --> 01:01:27.017
Could you speak to that amendment?

01:01:27.017 --> 01:01:29.499
'Cause now we can consider it.

01:01:29.499 --> 01:01:34.248
<v ->Again, the Texas Science Education Leadership Association</v>

01:01:34.248 --> 01:01:37.748
felt that by striking this we would leave,

01:01:38.822 --> 01:01:40.780
leave this concept open to things beyond

01:01:40.780 --> 01:01:42.539
just the digestive system.

01:01:42.539 --> 01:01:45.841
They believe that leaving just the digestive system

01:01:45.841 --> 01:01:50.008
would be too narrow and only specifies one body system.

01:02:03.953 --> 01:02:05.850
<v ->Mrs. Cargill.</v>

01:02:05.850 --> 01:02:08.939
I just want to make sure 'cause we've got several--

01:02:08.939 --> 01:02:11.803
<v ->And there've been conversations throughout</v>

01:02:11.803 --> 01:02:12.749
where there's agreement.

01:02:12.749 --> 01:02:14.206
<v ->Okay, so everybody's already seen this?</v>

01:02:14.206 --> 01:02:15.418
Okay, I didn't realize that.

01:02:15.418 --> 01:02:16.638
I just want to make sure all the members know

01:02:16.638 --> 01:02:18.036
that it's all been looked at.

01:02:18.036 --> 01:02:19.036
Okay, great.

01:02:20.617 --> 01:02:25.038
Is there any objection to deleting digestive system?

01:02:25.038 --> 01:02:26.121
Hearing none.

01:02:27.938 --> 01:02:30.046
Okay, next amendment.

01:02:30.046 --> 01:02:32.879
<v ->If you just go down to Number 7, it's A.</v>

01:02:35.059 --> 01:02:38.892
The amendment would be to strike "in digestion."

01:02:41.249 --> 01:02:43.012
<v Mrs. Bahorich>No, we just did "heat and."</v>

01:02:43.012 --> 01:02:45.012
We just struck "heat and."

01:02:45.866 --> 01:02:49.670
<v ->We did the one right above number 7.</v>

01:02:49.670 --> 01:02:52.804
To keep it consistent, same rationale.

01:02:52.804 --> 01:02:54.554
<v ->Makes sense.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

01:02:55.405 --> 01:02:58.292
<v ->Any objection to considering this amendment?</v>

01:02:58.292 --> 01:03:01.105
Okay, any objection to the amendment?

01:03:01.105 --> 01:03:03.772
Hearing none, okay.
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:03:05.952 --> 01:03:07.702
<v ->All right.</v>

01:03:07.702 --> 01:03:08.535
That's it?

01:03:09.829 --> 01:03:12.360
Ms. Beltran, did you have anymore?

01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:13.830
Okay, so that's all.

01:03:13.830 --> 01:03:16.830
Ms. Cargill and then Ms. Perez-Diaz.

01:03:18.661 --> 01:03:21.952
Did you have one in this grade, Ms. Perez-Diaz?

01:03:21.952 --> 01:03:23.550
Okay, well, let's do 7th Grade while we're here

01:03:23.550 --> 01:03:25.383
on the same page area.

01:03:29.264 --> 01:03:32.359
Is this a new consideration that was posted or is it--

01:03:32.359 --> 01:03:33.874
It was posted.

01:03:33.874 --> 01:03:38.041
So, it's in one of the motion and votes we already did?

01:03:45.098 --> 01:03:47.164
<v Woman>She submitted it before the two hour</v>

01:03:47.164 --> 01:03:49.457
kind of thing but I don't think it'll be reflected in--

01:03:49.457 --> 01:03:52.457
<v ->Oh, it's not in the minutes, okay.</v>

01:03:57.085 --> 01:04:00.125
Is it something we can distribute or is it just

01:04:00.125 --> 01:04:01.388
a strike--
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:04:01.388 --> 01:04:03.634
It should be coming.
<v ->That would be good.</v>

01:04:03.634 --> 01:04:04.484
We could have copies of that.

01:04:04.484 --> 01:04:06.241
That would be terrific.

01:04:06.241 --> 01:04:07.462
<v ->I think I skipped ahead.</v>

01:04:07.462 --> 01:04:09.446
It's not 7th Grade.

01:04:09.446 --> 01:04:10.591
It's High School.

01:04:10.591 --> 01:04:11.424
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, that's fine.</v>

01:04:11.424 --> 01:04:12.257
I just want to make sure we know

01:04:12.257 --> 01:04:13.826
where to look for everything.

01:04:13.826 --> 01:04:15.893
<v ->It's High School.</v>

01:04:15.893 --> 01:04:17.641
I jumped ahead

01:04:17.641 --> 01:04:19.051
and I'm looking for it.

01:04:19.051 --> 01:04:22.339
<v ->Okay, this is a Biology thing.</v>

01:04:22.339 --> 01:04:23.394
Is this what you want to amend?

01:04:23.394 --> 01:04:24.565
<v ->Yes.
<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

01:04:24.565 --> 01:04:25.862
So, we're jumping over to Biology.

01:04:25.862 --> 01:04:28.362
<v ->Yes ma'am.
<v ->Okay, all right.</v>

01:04:34.683 --> 01:04:36.308
Does anybody else have anything in Biology

01:04:36.308 --> 01:04:38.214
'cause it would be nice to stay in the right chapter,

01:04:38.214 --> 01:04:39.669
in the same chapter for anything.

01:04:39.669 --> 01:04:41.757
You have something in Biology?

01:04:41.757 --> 01:04:43.467
How 'bout we get through with

01:04:43.467 --> 01:04:45.916
the 5th Grade and we'll come back to it?

01:04:45.916 --> 01:04:47.750
And just do Biology at once.

01:04:47.750 --> 01:04:51.917
<v Mrs. Perez-Diaz>Was the 5th Grade amendment posted?</v>

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I'd like to do--

01:04:54.737 --> 01:04:57.320
<v ->Go ahead and do your Biology.</v>

01:04:58.770 --> 01:05:01.020
<v ->I'm looking at 112.34 (C)(4)(A).</v>

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That's going to be on page...

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yeah, what page is that in our notebooks?</v>

01:05:11.606 --> 01:05:15.523
<v ->We are looking at Page I-71 in our notebooks.</v>

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It's gonna be Page 8 of our minutes.

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It's the first Motion and Vote.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, hold on, just a minute.</v>

01:05:25.252 --> 01:05:28.419
Let's just make sure we all get there.

01:05:34.197 --> 01:05:36.697
<v ->Everybody on the right page?</v>

01:05:38.833 --> 01:05:40.734
<v Mrs. Bahorich>We're looking at Page 8 in the minutes,</v>

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correct?

01:05:41.567 --> 01:05:42.836
<v ->Page 8 in the minutes is the first motion in vote</v>

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and then Page I-71 in our book, 4A.

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As it stands on Wednesday, we voted.

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The motion at the time read, "Compare and contrast

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"prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells

01:05:59.861 --> 01:06:03.363
"and compare and contrast scientific explanations

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"for their complexity."

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Immediately following that vote,

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it was brought to several of our attention

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that this is not a teachable TEK.

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So, in order to correct the language,

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I'd like to propose what you have in front of you.

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The new TEK would read, "Compare and contrast

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"prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:06:29.982 --> 01:06:34.149
"including scientific explanations for their complexity."

01:06:41.429 --> 01:06:42.995
<v Dr. Ellis>Parliamentary inquiry.</v>

01:06:42.995 --> 01:06:46.085
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yes, Dr. Ellis.</v>

01:06:46.085 --> 01:06:48.505
<v ->On an amendment that's posted properly,</v>

01:06:48.505 --> 01:06:51.804
as Ms. Perez' was, is that able to be amended?

01:06:51.804 --> 01:06:54.836
Can the amendment be amended?

01:06:54.836 --> 01:06:58.161
<v Mr. Overbey>It can but the amendment is to strike out</v>

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"compare and contrast" and insert the word "including."

01:07:02.898 --> 01:07:07.058
They could only amend the word "including."

01:07:07.058 --> 01:07:08.940
<v ->The parliamentarian says you can only</v>

01:07:08.940 --> 01:07:12.210
amend the word "including" which is her suggestion.

01:07:12.210 --> 01:07:14.904
Strike "compare and contrast" and make it "including."

01:07:14.904 --> 01:07:18.904
<v Dr. Ellis>There's an arrow to that one word.</v>

01:07:21.444 --> 01:07:22.456
<v Ms. Perez-Diaz>I'm not sure.</v>

01:07:22.456 --> 01:07:24.956
I need a second before I can--

01:07:25.989 --> 01:07:27.618
<v ->I just want to make sure we're doing it right,</v>

01:07:27.618 --> 01:07:29.368
parliamentarian-wise.

01:07:30.870 --> 01:07:32.307
<v ->There's two parts to the motion,</v>

01:07:32.307 --> 01:07:36.501
one is to strike out "compare and contrast"

01:07:36.501 --> 01:07:39.668
the other part is to insert "including."

01:07:40.921 --> 01:07:42.848
In strike out "compare and contrast,"

01:07:42.848 --> 01:07:46.230
you could move to strike out from the strike out.

01:07:46.230 --> 01:07:49.895
Or you could move to change the world "including"

01:07:49.895 --> 01:07:52.069
to another word or phrase.

01:07:52.069 --> 01:07:54.102
But that's the only amendment you can make to this.

01:07:54.102 --> 01:07:57.139
It's very limited on what you can do.

01:07:57.139 --> 01:07:59.671
However, if you want to change something larger,

01:07:59.671 --> 01:08:00.941
you can wait until this is done

01:08:00.941 --> 01:08:03.917
and take a bigger bite out of the whole thing.

01:08:03.917 --> 01:08:06.722
<v Dr. Ellis>That would need 2/3, correct?</v>

01:08:06.722 --> 01:08:10.889
<v ->If it's a different amendment that isn't posted, yes.</v>

01:08:14.140 --> 01:08:16.254
<v ->Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz.</v>

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Please explain.

01:08:17.632 --> 01:08:20.191
<v ->The rationale for making this change was that,</v>

01:08:20.191 --> 01:08:23.300
according to many of our practitioner experts

01:08:23.300 --> 01:08:26.920
that were here, this is not, as written, is not teachable

01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.170
because of the verb choice.

01:08:30.621 --> 01:08:32.654
It makes it very difficult to teach "compare and contrast

01:08:32.654 --> 01:08:34.749
"scientific explanations," whereas,

01:08:34.749 --> 01:08:38.089
here you'd be comparing and contrasting the prokaryotic

01:08:38.089 --> 01:08:40.589
and eukaryotic cells

01:08:40.589 --> 01:08:44.066
including their scientific explanations.

01:08:44.066 --> 01:08:47.421
This just makes it a lot more clear for our educators

01:08:47.421 --> 01:08:50.254
to teach this particular standard.

01:08:53.173 --> 01:08:55.333
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Rowley.</v>

01:08:55.333 --> 01:08:56.912
<v ->Before I vote on that,</v>

01:08:56.912 --> 01:09:01.079
could I ask member Ellis about what might be forthcoming

01:09:03.587 --> 01:09:04.941
after this vote?

01:09:04.941 --> 01:09:07.075
<v ->Yeah,
<v ->Okay, I'd like to do that.</v>

01:09:07.075 --> 01:09:09.655
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Ellis. I mean, Dr. Ellis.</v>

01:09:09.655 --> 01:09:12.594
<v ->The comment I have or the potential motion</v>

01:09:12.594 --> 01:09:15.292
I may make is to address the same exact issue

01:09:15.292 --> 01:09:17.840
that Ms. Perez mentioned there.

01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:22.266
My thought was to clarify the pronoun of "their"

01:09:22.266 --> 01:09:25.333
in "their complexity" because that was the issue

01:09:25.333 --> 01:09:26.827
of what "their" means.

01:09:26.827 --> 01:09:29.010
So, for that second clause to read,

01:09:29.010 --> 01:09:31.580
"and compare and contrast scientific explanations

01:09:31.580 --> 01:09:33.562
"for cellular complexity."

01:09:33.562 --> 01:09:36.468
Therefore, clarifying that pronoun.

01:09:36.468 --> 01:09:39.440
And, I think, accomplishing the same thing.

01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:44.094
<v ->Actually, that's helpful to know what the option is here.</v>

01:09:44.094 --> 01:09:46.340
<v Dr. Ellis>Does that make sense, Ms. Perez?</v>

01:09:46.340 --> 01:09:49.257
<v ->I just have a follow-up question.</v>

01:09:50.284 --> 01:09:54.842
Mr. Ellis, were you able to consult with the practitioners?

01:09:54.842 --> 01:09:57.634
What was, I guess, the individuals who you spoke with,

01:09:57.634 --> 01:09:58.601
what was that?

01:09:58.601 --> 01:09:59.821
Where did that come from?

01:09:59.821 --> 01:10:01.885
<v ->We looked at it as just clarifying that pronoun.</v>

01:10:01.885 --> 01:10:02.835
<v Ms. Perez>That particular part?</v>

01:10:02.835 --> 01:10:05.192
<v ->That's clarifying that pronoun.</v>

01:10:05.192 --> 01:10:08.986
<v ->Yes, Ms. Cargill, speaking to this amendment.</v>

01:10:08.986 --> 01:10:10.906
We have to stay focused on this amendment.

01:10:10.906 --> 01:10:14.489
<v ->Yeah, I understand Ms. Perez-Diaz' intent</v>

01:10:15.765 --> 01:10:18.888
and I think Dr. Ellis' intent is the same.

01:10:18.888 --> 01:10:23.570
I would support his because I think it clarifies even more.

01:10:23.570 --> 01:10:25.632
But thank you for bringing that to our attention,

01:10:25.632 --> 01:10:26.508
Ms. Perez-Diaz.

01:10:26.508 --> 01:10:30.175
<v ->Parliamentary inquiry.
<v ->Yes, Mr. Maynard.</v>

01:10:31.441 --> 01:10:34.705
<v ->If I understand this correctly,</v>

01:10:34.705 --> 01:10:37.038
Ms. Perez-Diaz' amendment is

01:10:38.783 --> 01:10:43.583
including addition of the words "scientific explanations

01:10:43.583 --> 01:10:45.333
"for their complexity?"

01:10:46.288 --> 01:10:48.067
<v Mr. Overbey>Actually, it's to strike out</v>

01:10:48.067 --> 01:10:50.894
"and compare and contrast," insert "including."

01:10:50.894 --> 01:10:53.059
<v ->Yeah, it's just, literally,</v>

01:10:53.059 --> 01:10:56.670
if you're looking at the top of the Page 8,

01:10:56.670 --> 01:10:58.403
in the minutes.

01:10:58.403 --> 01:11:02.500
It's literally to strike "compare and contrast"

01:11:02.500 --> 01:11:05.417
inserting, in substitution, the word "including."

01:11:07.062 --> 01:11:08.812
That's her amendment.

01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:12.576
Dr. Ellis' that we'll be considering next

01:11:12.576 --> 01:11:15.076
is over here that we just got.

01:11:22.476 --> 01:11:23.761
<v Mr. Maynard>All right, thank you.</v>

01:11:23.761 --> 01:11:25.488
<v ->Yeah, we would strike the word "and" too,</v>

01:11:25.488 --> 01:11:27.010
as well, just to be sure.

01:11:27.010 --> 01:11:29.510
<v ->I guess, what I would ask is,</v>

01:11:32.509 --> 01:11:33.923
if we vote in favor of my amendment

01:11:33.923 --> 01:11:36.340
and then consider Mr. Ellis',

01:11:38.155 --> 01:11:40.503
would then the TEK read, "compare and contrast

01:11:40.503 --> 01:11:43.295
"prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells including

01:11:43.295 --> 01:11:46.936
"scientific explanations for cellular complexity?"

01:11:46.936 --> 01:11:47.769
Okay.

01:11:53.523 --> 01:11:57.690
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yes, Dr. Ellis and then Mr. Cortez.</v>

01:11:59.482 --> 01:12:02.221
<v ->I was just gonna mention that I'm going to</v>

01:12:02.221 --> 01:12:06.317
rise to speak in support of Ms. Perez' amendment.

01:12:06.317 --> 01:12:08.446
In case mine does not pass,

01:12:08.446 --> 01:12:12.026
I think hers would fix the problem that we have.

01:12:12.026 --> 01:12:14.484
So, I am supporting her amendment,

01:12:14.484 --> 01:12:17.164
and then, I am also gonna offer another amendment.

01:12:17.164 --> 01:12:18.472
<v ->Got it.</v>

01:12:18.472 --> 01:12:19.677
Okay.

01:12:19.677 --> 01:12:21.312
I just want to make sure we all stay straight

01:12:21.312 --> 01:12:23.027
about who's doing what and what we're doing.

01:12:23.027 --> 01:12:25.137
Mr. Cortez, did you have a comment?

01:12:25.137 --> 01:12:26.304
<v ->I did, yeah.</v>

01:12:28.353 --> 01:12:31.703
The president of the South Texas Science Association

01:12:31.703 --> 01:12:33.210
is listening in.

01:12:33.210 --> 01:12:34.859
This lady we're speaking with this morning,

01:12:34.859 --> 01:12:37.967
her principal gave her time off to focus in

01:12:37.967 --> 01:12:40.384
on our actions very intently.

01:12:41.985 --> 01:12:43.985
She agrees with Marisa's

01:12:47.770 --> 01:12:49.313
item.

01:12:49.313 --> 01:12:52.646
And says that it's easier to understand.

01:12:54.504 --> 01:12:58.671
She was one of our Middle School Writing Team people.

01:13:01.024 --> 01:13:04.559
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Cargill?</v>

01:13:04.559 --> 01:13:06.146
<v ->When this all was brought to our attention,</v>

01:13:06.146 --> 01:13:08.253
it centered around the way that the teachers

01:13:08.253 --> 01:13:12.729
break out the amendments, I mean the standards.

01:13:12.729 --> 01:13:14.873
Remember yesterday, when we did ELAR?

01:13:14.873 --> 01:13:17.115
Or the day before, we had to put verbs

01:13:17.115 --> 01:13:19.709
in two parts of the sentence

01:13:19.709 --> 01:13:22.678
so that the break outs would be correct?

01:13:22.678 --> 01:13:24.996
That's why I'm in favor of repeating the verbs,

01:13:24.996 --> 01:13:27.149
which we did several times in science,

01:13:27.149 --> 01:13:29.034
actually many times,

01:13:29.034 --> 01:13:32.269
because that way when the teachers break it out

01:13:32.269 --> 01:13:34.578
they'll compare and contrast the prokaryotic

01:13:34.578 --> 01:13:37.485
and eukaryotic cells, that's clear.

01:13:37.485 --> 01:13:39.593
Then for the second part, when they do the breakout

01:13:39.593 --> 01:13:44.277
and when the publishers look at the breakouts to,

01:13:44.277 --> 01:13:45.369
of course we're not getting new books,

01:13:45.369 --> 01:13:46.591
but if we were getting new books,

01:13:46.591 --> 01:13:48.322
they would know how to cover that.

01:13:48.322 --> 01:13:50.522
It helps the teachers understand

01:13:50.522 --> 01:13:52.349
that we want the scientific explanations

01:13:52.349 --> 01:13:56.631
for cellular complexity compared and contrasted as well.

01:13:56.631 --> 01:13:58.411
That way you're just covering all your bases.

01:13:58.411 --> 01:14:01.266
You're keeping the verbs in the second part,

01:14:01.266 --> 01:14:04.342
which staff explained to us helps with the breakouts.

01:14:04.342 --> 01:14:06.631
And we're explaining what the word "their" means.

01:14:06.631 --> 01:14:10.798
So, it's just replacing the word "their" with "cellular."

01:14:13.874 --> 01:14:15.624
<v ->Any other comments?</v>

01:14:18.391 --> 01:14:22.334
Okay, all those in favor of the amendment which would,

01:14:22.334 --> 01:14:23.683
if you're looking at the top,

01:14:23.683 --> 01:14:26.588
I just want to make sure that it would now read,

01:14:26.588 --> 01:14:30.755
"Compare and contrast prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:14:31.631 --> 01:14:34.984
"including scientific explanations for their complexity."

01:14:34.984 --> 01:14:36.269
<v Ms. Cargill>May I ask a point of clarification?</v>

01:14:36.269 --> 01:14:37.869
<v ->Yes, Ms. Cargill.</v>

01:14:37.869 --> 01:14:39.299
<v Ms. Cargill>If we vote yes on this,</v>

01:14:39.299 --> 01:14:43.001
we can still take up Dr. Ellis' amendment?

01:14:43.001 --> 01:14:45.587
<v ->Yeah, he already said that.</v>

01:14:45.587 --> 01:14:48.151
<v ->The reason is, the only thing being changed</v>

01:14:48.151 --> 01:14:50.987
is the words, "and compare and contrast."

01:14:50.987 --> 01:14:52.979
So, technically, it's a motion to strike out,

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"and compare and contrast," and insert the word "including."

01:14:57.089 --> 01:14:59.677
Anything else that is not affected by that

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can still be amended in that sentence.

01:15:01.621 --> 01:15:04.888
<v Ms. Cargill>So, he can reinsert?</v>

01:15:04.888 --> 01:15:07.490
<v ->He can't reinsert, though, that's the thing.</v>

01:15:07.490 --> 01:15:08.938
He can't reinsert.

01:15:08.938 --> 01:15:12.105
He wants to keep "compare and contrast."

01:15:13.736 --> 01:15:16.953
I know, but, when he presents his

01:15:16.953 --> 01:15:21.120
He can still put "compare and contrast" back in, correct?

01:15:22.290 --> 01:15:24.252
If we accepted this.

01:15:24.252 --> 01:15:28.419
See, that's where this got confusing a little bit.

01:15:30.792 --> 01:15:32.240
<v ->Madam Chair, there's an understanding</v>

01:15:32.240 --> 01:15:34.178
that when the majority,

01:15:34.178 --> 01:15:36.588
having patiently put up with hearing

01:15:36.588 --> 01:15:39.529
all the discussion from individuals,

01:15:39.529 --> 01:15:41.137
when it finally gets to make a decision,

01:15:41.137 --> 01:15:42.775
'cause the majority rules,

01:15:42.775 --> 01:15:46.115
that that decision stands unless the majority

01:15:46.115 --> 01:15:47.914
is willing to reconsider it.

01:15:47.914 --> 01:15:51.181
That is why a member on the prevailing side

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is the only one who can move to reconsider.

01:15:54.302 --> 01:15:56.217
It would seem that if this is adopted,

01:15:56.217 --> 01:15:59.632
the majority would have decided to put in the words

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"compare and contrast."

01:16:01.478 --> 01:16:03.756
The only way to change that would then be--

01:16:03.756 --> 01:16:06.665
<v ->No, it would be to put in "including."</v>

01:16:06.665 --> 01:16:08.355
"Including" would be what we would've decided

01:16:08.355 --> 01:16:09.725
if we agree with this amendment.

01:16:09.725 --> 01:16:12.295
<v ->Well, remove "compare and contrast" and insert "including."</v>

01:16:12.295 --> 01:16:13.985
And that decision, having been done,

01:16:13.985 --> 01:16:16.957
the only way to change that would be

01:16:16.957 --> 01:16:18.965
to completely reword the entire thing,

01:16:18.965 --> 01:16:20.626
which I don't think is happening,

01:16:20.626 --> 01:16:22.428
or to reconsider that.

01:16:22.428 --> 01:16:25.827
So, if you want to keep "compare and contrast" in,

01:16:25.827 --> 01:16:27.682
then the members should vote no on this.

01:16:27.682 --> 01:16:31.057
<v ->Okay, I just want to make sure that it's clear</v>

01:16:31.057 --> 01:16:33.087
to members what we're voting on

01:16:33.087 --> 01:16:35.775
because we're considering that particular area.

01:16:35.775 --> 01:16:37.945
Either you keep "compare and contrast"

01:16:37.945 --> 01:16:40.112
or change it to "including."

01:16:43.273 --> 01:16:45.523
Is everybody clear on that?

01:16:46.513 --> 01:16:47.346
Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz?

01:16:47.346 --> 01:16:49.527
<v ->Just one last point of clarification.</v>

01:16:49.527 --> 01:16:52.535
It's my understanding, after consulting with the educators

01:16:52.535 --> 01:16:54.430
and the individuals who serve on the writing teams,

01:16:54.430 --> 01:16:57.364
it seems like the issue wasn't "their."

01:16:57.364 --> 01:17:01.591
The issue was the use the verbiage and where it was placed.

01:17:01.591 --> 01:17:03.612
I'm not completely removing "compare and contrast,"

01:17:03.612 --> 01:17:07.529
it's just removing it from within the language.

01:17:09.010 --> 01:17:10.960
So, "compare and contrast" is still gonna start off

01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:14.021
prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells.

01:17:14.021 --> 01:17:16.896
So, it's not a complete removal of that verbiage.

01:17:16.896 --> 01:17:19.396
It's placement in that one TEK

01:17:20.550 --> 01:17:23.688
which makes makes the language confusing to teach.

01:17:23.688 --> 01:17:26.582
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Rowley?</v>

01:17:26.582 --> 01:17:29.748
<v ->If I'm understanding what the parliamentarian is saying.</v>

01:17:29.748 --> 01:17:33.114
If we wanted to adopt Mr. Ellis' amendment,

01:17:33.114 --> 01:17:36.365
which has been circulated, it includes "compare and contrast"

01:17:36.365 --> 01:17:38.905
in the second part of the standard.

01:17:38.905 --> 01:17:42.444
If we vote yes, with regard to Ms. Perez-Diaz' amendment,

01:17:42.444 --> 01:17:44.338
we're precluded from doing that without a motion

01:17:44.338 --> 01:17:45.918
to reconsider.

01:17:45.918 --> 01:17:47.377
And that motion to reconsider, you gotta vote

01:17:47.377 --> 01:17:48.746
on the prevailing side.

01:17:48.746 --> 01:17:52.112
<v ->Unless, he just wants to put that one word in</v>

01:17:52.112 --> 01:17:53.351
that he wants to change.

01:17:53.351 --> 01:17:54.682
Change "their" to--

01:17:54.682 --> 01:17:57.066
<v ->But my point is, if we vote no now,</v>

01:17:57.066 --> 01:18:01.149
then we're free to consider Mr. Ellis' amendment.

01:18:02.871 --> 01:18:06.032
<v ->That's why the parliamentarian wanted to make sure</v>

01:18:06.032 --> 01:18:07.724
and understand 'cause once you

01:18:07.724 --> 01:18:10.727
take "compare and contrast" out and change it to "including,"

01:18:10.727 --> 01:18:13.064
you can't reconsider that change

01:18:13.064 --> 01:18:14.610
and put "compare and contrast" back in

01:18:14.610 --> 01:18:17.926
unless the prevailing side says, "I'd like to reconsider."

01:18:17.926 --> 01:18:19.750
And then we do it.

01:18:19.750 --> 01:18:23.167
But that's a little bit more complicated.

01:18:26.247 --> 01:18:27.580
Yes, Mr. Cortez?

01:18:29.446 --> 01:18:32.832
<v ->Just for my own clarification.</v>

01:18:32.832 --> 01:18:35.107
Am I understanding

01:18:35.107 --> 01:18:38.357
member Ellis is okay with her amendment

01:18:39.543 --> 01:18:42.396
should it read, which doesn't currently,

01:18:42.396 --> 01:18:46.255
but should it read, "compare and contrast,"

01:18:46.255 --> 01:18:48.234
I'm not even gonna bother pronouncing them,

01:18:48.234 --> 01:18:51.952
"those and those cells, including scientific explanations

01:18:51.952 --> 01:18:54.119
"for cellular complexity."

01:18:55.583 --> 01:18:57.029
Is that what you would be okay with?

01:18:57.029 --> 01:18:58.657
<v Dr. Ellis>No, I misunderstood when you came over here.</v>

01:18:58.657 --> 01:19:00.334
I want "compare and contrast" on both.

01:19:00.334 --> 01:19:02.501
I feel that is more clear.

01:19:03.592 --> 01:19:04.796
I'm sorry, but I did tell you that.

01:19:04.796 --> 01:19:07.542
But I misunderstood you.

01:19:07.542 --> 01:19:10.657
<v ->Basically, if you want Ellis' amendment, you vote no.</v>

01:19:10.657 --> 01:19:14.711
If you want member Perez's amendment, you vote yes.

01:19:14.711 --> 01:19:15.563
Is that clear?

01:19:15.563 --> 01:19:17.164
Everybody's got it?

01:19:17.164 --> 01:19:19.939
Okay, right now we're voting on the amendment

01:19:19.939 --> 01:19:23.505
by Ms. Perez, which is to strike,

01:19:23.505 --> 01:19:27.672
"and compare and contrast," and substitute "including."

01:19:29.551 --> 01:19:31.940
All those in favor raise your hand.

01:19:31.940 --> 01:19:33.382
<v Man>Which one are we voting on?</v>

01:19:33.382 --> 01:19:34.215
<v ->On hers.</v>

01:19:41.898 --> 01:19:44.733
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:19:44.733 --> 01:19:48.816
<v ->One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.</v>

01:19:50.681 --> 01:19:51.681
<v ->And David.</v>

01:19:59.910 --> 01:20:01.639
So, motion fails.

01:20:01.639 --> 01:20:03.269
Now, we're gonna take up Dr. Ellis',

01:20:03.269 --> 01:20:05.258
who's trying to adjust the same issue.

01:20:05.258 --> 01:20:06.616
<v ->Which requires a 2/3 vote.</v>

01:20:06.616 --> 01:20:08.247
<v ->Which does require a 2/3 vote</v>

01:20:08.247 --> 01:20:12.552
because it did not get distributed, correct?

01:20:12.552 --> 01:20:14.172
It did not get distributed.

01:20:14.172 --> 01:20:16.734
All those in favor of taking up that amendment

01:20:16.734 --> 01:20:19.234
by Dr. Ellis, raise your hand.

01:20:20.736 --> 01:20:24.149
<v ->One, two, three, four, five, six, seven,</v>

01:20:24.149 --> 01:20:25.149
eight, nine.

01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:29.883
All those opposed.

01:20:29.883 --> 01:20:32.972
<v ->All those opposed to taking up Dr. Ellis' amendment?</v>

01:20:32.972 --> 01:20:34.972
<v ->One, two, three, four.</v>

01:20:39.951 --> 01:20:41.534
Nine to four, okay.

01:20:44.477 --> 01:20:48.644
<v ->Your motion failed, so now the amendment is this one.</v>

01:20:51.257 --> 01:20:53.340
<v ->This is just to consider the amendment,</v>

01:20:53.340 --> 01:20:54.173
so let's take the vote again.

01:20:54.173 --> 01:20:56.115
<v ->Yeah, this is only to consider the amendment.</v>

01:20:56.115 --> 01:21:00.763
So, we're not actually voting on the amendment quite yet.

01:21:00.763 --> 01:21:02.985
All those in favor of considering the amendment

01:21:02.985 --> 01:21:06.182
of Dr. Ellis, raise your hand.

01:21:06.182 --> 01:21:08.996
It wasn't clear what was being voted on.

01:21:08.996 --> 01:21:11.417
They were thought they were voting for Dr. Ellis' amendment.

01:21:11.417 --> 01:21:13.706
I just want to make sure that we have to have

01:21:13.706 --> 01:21:15.463
2/3 of a vote to consider it.

01:21:15.463 --> 01:21:17.147
<v ->It's just to consider.</v>

01:21:17.147 --> 01:21:19.157
One, two, three, four, five,

01:21:19.157 --> 01:21:21.868
six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12.

01:21:21.868 --> 01:21:23.192
And those opposed.

01:21:23.192 --> 01:21:26.011
<v ->Okay, those opposed raise your hand.</v>

01:21:26.011 --> 01:21:28.458
To consideration of the amendment.

01:21:28.458 --> 01:21:29.413
So, motion carries.

01:21:29.413 --> 01:21:31.759
You may present your amendment.

01:21:31.759 --> 01:21:36.557
<v ->I would like to propose an amendment for Biology 6A.</v>

01:21:36.557 --> 01:21:39.110
Will read, "To compare and contrast prokaryotic

01:21:39.110 --> 01:21:41.576
"and eukaryotic cells and compare and contrast

01:21:41.576 --> 01:21:45.559
"scientific explanations for cellular complexity."

01:21:45.559 --> 01:21:47.875
<v ->So, the only thing you're doing is striking,</v>

01:21:47.875 --> 01:21:49.579
or inserting "cellular?"

01:21:49.579 --> 01:21:52.247
<v ->All I am doing is clarifying the pronoun</v>

01:21:52.247 --> 01:21:54.247
"their," to read "cellular."

01:21:55.221 --> 01:21:59.735
<v ->Striking "their" and inserting "cellular," correct?</v>

01:21:59.735 --> 01:22:00.742
Is everybody clear on that?

01:22:00.742 --> 01:22:02.388
All you're doing is striking "their"

01:22:02.388 --> 01:22:05.055
and putting "cellular complexity."

01:22:07.836 --> 01:22:09.698
I wanna make sure y'all know

01:22:09.698 --> 01:22:12.085
the only recommendation is to strike "their"

01:22:12.085 --> 01:22:13.586
and insert "cellular."

01:22:13.586 --> 01:22:14.836
Yes, Ms. Perez?

01:22:16.021 --> 01:22:17.862
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

01:22:17.862 --> 01:22:21.776
Thank you member Ellis for the amendment.

01:22:21.776 --> 01:22:24.693
I just need to share before I vote.

01:22:26.277 --> 01:22:30.110
I'm deeply disturbed by how this has happened.

01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:35.200
I followed the protocol, I submitted the amendments

01:22:35.200 --> 01:22:38.066
in a timely basis, in order for our practitioners

01:22:38.066 --> 01:22:41.583
to have a chance to review, even if it's two days,

01:22:41.583 --> 01:22:43.000
they were posted.

01:22:44.904 --> 01:22:47.060
That allowed at least a short amount of time

01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:48.944
for practitioners to come back, be consulted,

01:22:48.944 --> 01:22:51.626
and share with us what this means.

01:22:51.626 --> 01:22:53.149
I have been told time and again

01:22:53.149 --> 01:22:56.112
that the way that it was written was not teachable.

01:22:56.112 --> 01:22:58.779
That this is a great compromise.

01:22:59.638 --> 01:23:01.460
I'm hearing from practitioners right now,

01:23:01.460 --> 01:23:03.766
we're getting texts from people who are watching

01:23:03.766 --> 01:23:06.266
that this is more complicated, and so

01:23:08.396 --> 01:23:11.239
I'm frustrated, I have to share that

01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:13.027
because this has been the running theme

01:23:13.027 --> 01:23:15.496
of this entire board meeting this week.

01:23:15.496 --> 01:23:17.442
We're not listening to our practitioners.

01:23:17.442 --> 01:23:19.229
We're not listening to our writing teams.

01:23:19.229 --> 01:23:21.155
I think we really just need to take a step back

01:23:21.155 --> 01:23:22.488
after this vote.

01:23:23.645 --> 01:23:26.218
I don't know, I'm just...

01:23:26.218 --> 01:23:28.315
We really just need to listen to our writing teams.

01:23:28.315 --> 01:23:30.917
They're working hard for us, and when we don't consult them

01:23:30.917 --> 01:23:34.675
or don't follow proper protocol, it's frustrating.

01:23:34.675 --> 01:23:37.107
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Ms. Martinez?</v>

01:23:37.107 --> 01:23:38.298
<v ->I apologize.</v>

01:23:38.298 --> 01:23:40.034
I think we are all struggling

01:23:40.034 --> 01:23:43.189
with the new rule that you have.

01:23:43.189 --> 01:23:47.186
While Ms. Perez-Diaz, I think you did submit your amendment

01:23:47.186 --> 01:23:50.094
but we didn't receive it in order to be able post it

01:23:50.094 --> 01:23:53.446
so I don't believe it was posted for the public to view.

01:23:53.446 --> 01:23:55.253
I just wanted to clarify that.

01:23:55.253 --> 01:23:58.647
We've got some discrepancies here.

01:23:58.647 --> 01:24:03.574
Because you did not end your meeting until yesterday,

01:24:03.574 --> 01:24:06.129
several of you submitted amendments.

01:24:06.129 --> 01:24:07.955
Dr. Ellis' amendment got submitted.

01:24:07.955 --> 01:24:09.625
It was two and a half hours.

01:24:09.625 --> 01:24:11.951
It wasn't quite the two hours.

01:24:11.951 --> 01:24:14.169
But just because you got them submitted

01:24:14.169 --> 01:24:16.987
doesn't necessarily mean that we received them

01:24:16.987 --> 01:24:19.542
and were able to post them on the website.

01:24:19.542 --> 01:24:21.875
So, I just want to be clear.

01:24:22.745 --> 01:24:24.929
We're gonna have to work on this process

01:24:24.929 --> 01:24:28.459
because I think there was not clarity

01:24:28.459 --> 01:24:31.587
on who amendments should be submitted to.

01:24:31.587 --> 01:24:35.145
So they could've gone to me, to someone in my office,

01:24:35.145 --> 01:24:36.938
they could've gone to the board office.

01:24:36.938 --> 01:24:41.105
We were very busy trying to get all of your minutes done.

01:24:42.492 --> 01:24:44.692
I will be very honest. There were some emails

01:24:44.692 --> 01:24:46.859
that came in to me that I did not see

01:24:46.859 --> 01:24:50.092
in time for us to try and get them posted on the web.

01:24:50.092 --> 01:24:52.676
I do want to be clear that

01:24:52.676 --> 01:24:56.077
that there may be the belief that something got posted

01:24:56.077 --> 01:24:58.160
when, in fact, it didn't.

01:25:00.356 --> 01:25:01.334
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Thank you.</v>

01:25:01.334 --> 01:25:02.771
That's something that we need to work on

01:25:02.771 --> 01:25:04.876
is to who we even send the amendments to.

01:25:04.876 --> 01:25:06.626
I just assumed Renee.

01:25:07.696 --> 01:25:09.936
Yes, Mr. Mercer and then Mr. Allen.

01:25:09.936 --> 01:25:10.769
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

01:25:10.769 --> 01:25:11.602
Just for the record.

01:25:11.602 --> 01:25:13.718
What's in here is the word that I actually wanted

01:25:13.718 --> 01:25:16.703
was "evaluate" and some folks went out to the news media

01:25:16.703 --> 01:25:19.053
and called a major coup that that word was taken out.

01:25:19.053 --> 01:25:22.209
I really wanted, "and evaluate scientific explanations,"

01:25:22.209 --> 01:25:25.615
but this board voted to make it "compare and contrast."

01:25:25.615 --> 01:25:28.206
Which is where we're at now.

01:25:28.206 --> 01:25:30.049
The panel asked for "compare and contrast"

01:25:30.049 --> 01:25:31.535
instead of "evaluate."

01:25:31.535 --> 01:25:33.546
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Allen.</v>

01:25:33.546 --> 01:25:35.385
<v ->Parliamentary inquiry.
<v ->Yes?</v>

01:25:35.385 --> 01:25:36.972
<v ->We have a motion on the floor and, if so,</v>

01:25:36.972 --> 01:25:41.876
can we only speak to the motion and dispose of it, please?

01:25:41.876 --> 01:25:42.972
<v ->That is true.</v>

01:25:42.972 --> 01:25:45.764
We really do need to speak to the motion itself.

01:25:45.764 --> 01:25:46.894
<v ->To put in "cellular."</v>

01:25:46.894 --> 01:25:50.590
<v ->To put in the word "cellular" and strike "their."</v>

01:25:50.590 --> 01:25:52.062
<v Man>Madam Chair?</v>

01:25:52.062 --> 01:25:54.663
<v ->Mr. Allen did you want to speak to "their" and "cellular?"</v>

01:25:54.663 --> 01:25:58.310
<v ->Yes, I wanted to ask a question of Monica.</v>

01:25:58.310 --> 01:26:02.353
If we were to produce something that was not teachable

01:26:02.353 --> 01:26:04.976
would it come back to our attention for removal?

01:26:04.976 --> 01:26:05.890
That's all I wanted to know

01:26:05.890 --> 01:26:07.921
'cause I heard that before we had something in

01:26:07.921 --> 01:26:09.838
that was not teachable.

01:26:13.423 --> 01:26:16.124
<v ->We're going to talk in a little more detail about this</v>

01:26:16.124 --> 01:26:17.981
when we get to English and Spanish Language Arts

01:26:17.981 --> 01:26:19.376
and Reading.

01:26:19.376 --> 01:26:23.543
The challenge is, once you take action and adopt the rules,

01:26:26.042 --> 01:26:27.959
then we cannot go back.

01:26:29.754 --> 01:26:32.470
There is a process in place for us to be able to make

01:26:32.470 --> 01:26:36.637
a technical edit without bringing an item back to you

01:26:38.564 --> 01:26:43.450
to go through the process again of adopting an amendment.

01:26:43.450 --> 01:26:45.817
This sounds like something that would not

01:26:45.817 --> 01:26:49.120
fall in the realm of the type of technical edit

01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:51.814
that we would have the authority to make.

01:26:51.814 --> 01:26:54.141
So, what we would have to do is

01:26:54.141 --> 01:26:56.597
after the rule becomes effective,

01:26:56.597 --> 01:27:00.499
if there was a determination as you've just explained,

01:27:00.499 --> 01:27:02.616
we would have to bring it back to this board

01:27:02.616 --> 01:27:06.783
and you would have to take action to make an amendment.

01:27:08.666 --> 01:27:10.166
<v ->Yes, Mr. Cortez?</v>

01:27:13.072 --> 01:27:15.041
<v ->We have some of our science experts in the room.</v>

01:27:15.041 --> 01:27:17.101
I'd really love to ask this question

01:27:17.101 --> 01:27:19.253
before we finalize this item.

01:27:19.253 --> 01:27:20.503
Could we bring?

01:27:25.073 --> 01:27:29.679
You don't want to come up and share some insight.

01:27:29.679 --> 01:27:33.988
There is objection to bringing the expert up?

01:27:33.988 --> 01:27:35.470
Is there objection?

01:27:35.470 --> 01:27:37.144
Can you ask the question if there's objection?

01:27:37.144 --> 01:27:38.363
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Yeah, I just did.</v>

01:27:38.363 --> 01:27:40.551
Is there objection, and then, there was an objection.

01:27:40.551 --> 01:27:44.718
<v ->So, there is an objection to asking the science experts?</v>

01:27:47.095 --> 01:27:48.885
A majority of the members decided

01:27:48.885 --> 01:27:50.802
that they don't want to ask the experts.

01:27:50.802 --> 01:27:51.955
<v ->We could do a majority vote.</v>

01:27:51.955 --> 01:27:54.288
We could do a majority vote.

01:27:55.577 --> 01:27:58.609
All those in favor of inviting a expert

01:27:58.609 --> 01:28:01.865
to speak to us, raise your hand.

01:28:01.865 --> 01:28:05.448
If you want to have somebody address this particular issue

01:28:05.448 --> 01:28:07.448
you can raise your hand.

01:28:10.885 --> 01:28:13.400
All those opposed to have an expert come and talk to us

01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:15.733
about this particular issue.

01:28:20.169 --> 01:28:21.333
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes?</v>

01:28:21.333 --> 01:28:24.420
<v ->Did that fail?
<v ->Yes it did.</v>

01:28:24.420 --> 01:28:27.780
<v ->I have an amendment to add after</v>

01:28:27.780 --> 01:28:30.763
consulting with Dr. Wetherington,

01:28:30.763 --> 01:28:31.930
I'll just say.

01:28:32.807 --> 01:28:34.140
It was on there.

01:28:35.395 --> 01:28:39.281
I'm going to amend Mr. Ellis' amendment

01:28:39.281 --> 01:28:41.114
so that it would read,

01:28:42.498 --> 01:28:45.760
"Compare and contrast prokaryotic and eukaryotic,"

01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:47.380
I'm not butchering this,

01:28:47.380 --> 01:28:51.960
"eukaryotic cells including their complexity."

01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:56.043
So, I want to insert "including their complexity,"

01:29:03.280 --> 01:29:05.527
so it continues to read, "and compare and contrast

01:29:05.527 --> 01:29:08.744
"scientific explanations for their cellular complexity."

01:29:08.744 --> 01:29:11.244
<v Man>Parliamentary inquiry.</v>

01:29:12.762 --> 01:29:14.262
<v ->Yes, Mr. Rowley?</v>

01:29:15.544 --> 01:29:19.711
<v ->My amendment is to insert "including their complexity"</v>

01:29:21.687 --> 01:29:24.513
right after the word "cells."

01:29:24.513 --> 01:29:26.656
See that prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells?

01:29:26.656 --> 01:29:28.604
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes?</v>

01:29:28.604 --> 01:29:31.821
<v ->The advice of the parliamentarian is that</v>

01:29:31.821 --> 01:29:34.023
that motion would not be in order at this time,

01:29:34.023 --> 01:29:37.447
but after the vote taken on this amendment,

01:29:37.447 --> 01:29:39.260
a motion to reconsider could be made

01:29:39.260 --> 01:29:41.044
because the body has already decided

01:29:41.044 --> 01:29:44.228
not to insert the word "including."

01:29:44.228 --> 01:29:46.639
<v ->I beg to differ and here's why.</v>

01:29:46.639 --> 01:29:51.287
Because in my motion, I'm talking about the complexity

01:29:51.287 --> 01:29:54.712
of those cells and in the prior motion,

01:29:54.712 --> 01:29:58.892
we were talking about including scientific explanations.

01:29:58.892 --> 01:30:01.767
The subject of the two, and it's what Dr. Wetherington

01:30:01.767 --> 01:30:03.124
just pointed out to me.

01:30:03.124 --> 01:30:05.572
The subject of the motions were different.

01:30:05.572 --> 01:30:09.739
In Ms. Perez-Diaz' motion, it was scientific explanations.

01:30:11.969 --> 01:30:14.766
In mine, I'm talking about the complexity

01:30:14.766 --> 01:30:16.446
of prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:30:16.446 --> 01:30:19.381
which I'm told by Dr. Wetherington

01:30:19.381 --> 01:30:21.714
was the focus of the intent.

01:30:26.777 --> 01:30:30.530
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Go ahead an address that, if you would.</v>

01:30:30.530 --> 01:30:32.114
<v ->The members point of order is, really,</v>

01:30:32.114 --> 01:30:34.318
whether the motion to reconsider would be needed

01:30:34.318 --> 01:30:36.985
after this motion is considered.

01:30:38.644 --> 01:30:42.216
The only way to amend this motion is to strike "their"

01:30:42.216 --> 01:30:43.883
and insert "cellular."

01:30:45.580 --> 01:30:47.591
Only those words can be amended right now

01:30:47.591 --> 01:30:49.378
as a secondary amendment.

01:30:49.378 --> 01:30:51.346
Once that motion is decided, one way or another,

01:30:51.346 --> 01:30:53.342
another motion could be amended,

01:30:53.342 --> 01:30:56.675
move to amend this entire section, okay?

01:30:58.350 --> 01:31:01.908
His point of order was that a motion

01:31:01.908 --> 01:31:05.585
to reconsider would not be needed to do that

01:31:05.585 --> 01:31:07.277
because the motion is not in order at this time

01:31:07.277 --> 01:31:08.177
to do that.

01:31:08.177 --> 01:31:11.967
Only changing "their" or "cellular" is what's being considered,

01:31:11.967 --> 01:31:13.050
nothing else.

01:31:14.736 --> 01:31:17.390
<v ->So, you're not saying we'd need a motion to reconsider</v>

01:31:17.390 --> 01:31:19.320
because the object of this motion

01:31:19.320 --> 01:31:22.820
is different from Mrs. Perez-Diaz', right?

01:31:23.830 --> 01:31:25.883
And that's your opinion as well.

01:31:25.883 --> 01:31:27.750
I mean, I'm agreeing with you.

01:31:27.750 --> 01:31:30.653
What your saying is my motion needs to follow

01:31:30.653 --> 01:31:32.871
the vote on this one but we don't have

01:31:32.871 --> 01:31:36.604
to move to reconsider in order to consider my motion?

01:31:36.604 --> 01:31:38.670
<v Mr. Overbey>If the chair rules that way, yes.</v>

01:31:38.670 --> 01:31:39.503
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:31:41.357 --> 01:31:44.021
<v Mr. Bradley>Madam Chair, parliamentary inquiry.</v>

01:31:44.021 --> 01:31:44.931
<v ->Yes, Mr. Bradley.</v>

01:31:44.931 --> 01:31:48.277
<v ->To the parliamentarian, the board had to have a 2/3 vote</v>

01:31:48.277 --> 01:31:50.777
to suspend its rules to allow the amendment

01:31:50.777 --> 01:31:52.892
by Member Ellis.

01:31:52.892 --> 01:31:57.657
Is that motion amendable or do we need to suspend

01:31:57.657 --> 01:32:01.434
the rules to allow an amendment to the amendment?

01:32:01.434 --> 01:32:02.331
<v Mrs. Bahorich>We're not gonna do it that way.</v>

01:32:02.331 --> 01:32:03.414
<v ->Okay, okay.</v>

01:32:07.676 --> 01:32:10.431
Then, my following question is--

01:32:10.431 --> 01:32:12.568
I'd like to deal with the motion on the floor--

01:32:12.568 --> 01:32:14.479
But then if any other member wants to make

01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:18.853
another amendment, it's gonna require 2/3 to consider?

01:32:18.853 --> 01:32:19.686
Thank you.

01:32:20.749 --> 01:32:24.760
Madam Chair, the other thing that's happening here

01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.420
is that the board has adopted rules to prevent

01:32:27.420 --> 01:32:28.908
this from happening,

01:32:28.908 --> 01:32:31.938
and now they're engaging in parliamentary gymnastics

01:32:31.938 --> 01:32:33.523
to try to get around the rule or deal

01:32:33.523 --> 01:32:36.502
with making amendments at the last minute.

01:32:36.502 --> 01:32:38.577
They're making a huge effort to defeat the purpose

01:32:38.577 --> 01:32:39.816
of the rule in the first place,

01:32:39.816 --> 01:32:41.230
but they have the right to do that,

01:32:41.230 --> 01:32:43.925
if they can get the 2/3 vote.

01:32:43.925 --> 01:32:47.931
<v ->Okay, so, Mr. Rowley would need that 2/3 vote.</v>

01:32:47.931 --> 01:32:49.581
I just had a point of information.

01:32:49.581 --> 01:32:52.637
Seems like this exact language that Mr. Rowley

01:32:52.637 --> 01:32:54.481
is suggesting was something that had already

01:32:54.481 --> 01:32:56.109
been considered before.

01:32:56.109 --> 01:32:58.308
Oh, something different okay.

01:32:58.308 --> 01:32:59.238
It was just information.

01:32:59.238 --> 01:33:00.405
I just wanted.

01:33:01.269 --> 01:33:02.154
<v Mr. Overbey>We need to vote on his motion</v>

01:33:02.154 --> 01:33:03.287
that's pending.

01:33:03.287 --> 01:33:06.120
<v ->Let's vote on Dr. Ellis' motion.</v>

01:33:07.010 --> 01:33:08.810
Is everybody ready to vote on that motion?

01:33:08.810 --> 01:33:10.477
Then we can move on.

01:33:14.905 --> 01:33:18.776
The motion before us is Dr. Ellis' motion.

01:33:18.776 --> 01:33:20.026
That particular

01:33:21.969 --> 01:33:22.836
standard would say,

01:33:22.836 --> 01:33:26.127
"Compare and contrast prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells

01:33:26.127 --> 01:33:28.492
"and compare and contrast scientific explanations

01:33:28.492 --> 01:33:31.309
"for cellular complexity."

01:33:31.309 --> 01:33:34.226
All those in favor, raise your hand.

01:33:37.872 --> 01:33:39.519
<v ->Nine.
<v ->Okay, nine.</v>

01:33:39.519 --> 01:33:42.352
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:33:44.419 --> 01:33:46.155
Okay, so that motion carried.

01:33:46.155 --> 01:33:47.405
Now, it's this.

01:33:48.487 --> 01:33:51.493
Now, we have to have 2/3 if Mr. Rowley

01:33:51.493 --> 01:33:53.926
still wants to consider his amendment.

01:33:53.926 --> 01:33:56.343
<v ->Can I speak to that?
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:33:57.602 --> 01:33:59.214
<v ->To why we should suspend the rules in order</v>

01:33:59.214 --> 01:34:00.979
to consider my amendment?

01:34:00.979 --> 01:34:02.652
<v Mr. Overbey>Suspend the rules is not debatable.</v>

01:34:02.652 --> 01:34:03.485
<v ->It's not, okay.</v>

01:34:03.485 --> 01:34:04.664
<v ->Suspend the rules is not debatable.</v>

01:34:04.664 --> 01:34:06.198
We have to have 2/3 vote--

01:34:06.198 --> 01:34:07.530
<v Mr. Overbey>He can describe the motion first, though.</v>

01:34:07.530 --> 01:34:08.943
<v ->Oh, I can .
<v ->Okay, okay.</v>

01:34:08.943 --> 01:34:12.025
<v ->I can describe my motion.
<v ->Describe your motion.</v>

01:34:12.025 --> 01:34:16.646
<v ->After consulting with a member of the writing committee,</v>

01:34:16.646 --> 01:34:20.731
the point that was made was, unless we add the language,

01:34:20.731 --> 01:34:24.291
not striking anything, but we're simply adding the language,

01:34:24.291 --> 01:34:28.850
"including their complexity," after "prokaryotic

01:34:28.850 --> 01:34:30.484
"and eukaryotic cells."

01:34:30.484 --> 01:34:33.132
So that we would be, "comparing and contrasting

01:34:33.132 --> 01:34:36.836
"prokaryotic, eukaryotic cells including their complexity,"

01:34:36.836 --> 01:34:38.707
and then it would continue to read,

01:34:38.707 --> 01:34:41.765
and "compare and contrast scientific explanations

01:34:41.765 --> 01:34:43.595
"for cellular complexity."

01:34:43.595 --> 01:34:46.850
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So, you want to do an insertion?</v>

01:34:46.850 --> 01:34:48.656
Okay, that's what got confusing.

01:34:48.656 --> 01:34:50.507
<v ->And I'm not striking anything.</v>

01:34:50.507 --> 01:34:53.706
It's still compares and contrasts scientific explanations

01:34:53.706 --> 01:34:57.950
but it also compares and contrasts the complexity

01:34:57.950 --> 01:35:00.267
of prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:35:00.267 --> 01:35:03.434
which I'm told was the original intent.

01:35:03.434 --> 01:35:04.985
<v ->Okay, okay, all right.</v>

01:35:04.985 --> 01:35:07.614
So, I just want to make sure.

01:35:07.614 --> 01:35:08.614
After cells--

01:35:09.922 --> 01:35:10.755
I'm sorry?

01:35:14.549 --> 01:35:17.132
I think it's just an insertion.

01:35:18.974 --> 01:35:21.167
Is that correct, Mr. Rowley?

01:35:21.167 --> 01:35:22.621
Okay, well I just want to make sure.

01:35:22.621 --> 01:35:25.385
<v ->Madam Chair? Parliamentary inquiry.
<v ->Yes, Mr. Bradley.</v>

01:35:25.385 --> 01:35:28.737
<v ->Could we take a 2/3 vote to see if the board</v>

01:35:28.737 --> 01:35:30.293
wants to consider an amendment

01:35:30.293 --> 01:35:31.559
before we start discussing it?

01:35:31.559 --> 01:35:32.638
<v ->I want to make sure that they know</v>

01:35:32.638 --> 01:35:34.721
what we'd be considering.

01:35:35.621 --> 01:35:37.235
That's what we're trying to straighten out

01:35:37.235 --> 01:35:38.068
in everybody's mind.

01:35:38.068 --> 01:35:39.154
I don't like us to vote--

01:35:39.154 --> 01:35:42.154
<v Mr. Bradley>Let's not debate it.</v>

01:35:43.378 --> 01:35:45.878
<v ->The new standard would read,</v>

01:35:46.785 --> 01:35:51.267
"Compare and contrast prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:35:51.267 --> 01:35:55.319
"including their complexity, and compare and contrast

01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:58.006
"scientific explanations for cellular complexity."

01:35:58.006 --> 01:35:59.793
Do I have this correct?

01:35:59.793 --> 01:36:01.953
That's the consideration.

01:36:01.953 --> 01:36:03.231
<v Woman>Did it include the word "their?"</v>

01:36:03.231 --> 01:36:04.398
I heard "their."

01:36:05.320 --> 01:36:07.127
<v ->Well, including "their complexity,"</v>

01:36:07.127 --> 01:36:08.217
it's a different spot.

01:36:08.217 --> 01:36:12.384
Those are the inserted words that he would like to do.

01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:16.529
<v Man>But it's right after the cells.</v>

01:36:18.218 --> 01:36:21.768
<v ->All in favor, we haven't voted on the amendment,</v>

01:36:21.768 --> 01:36:23.554
we're just voting right now,

01:36:23.554 --> 01:36:25.364
in favor of considering the amendment.

01:36:25.364 --> 01:36:27.308
'Cause you need 2/3 vote to do that.

01:36:27.308 --> 01:36:29.517
All those in favor, raise your hand.

01:36:29.517 --> 01:36:31.934
Of considering the amendment.

01:36:37.747 --> 01:36:38.676
Yeah, okay.

01:36:38.676 --> 01:36:40.287
Yeah, we got more than 2/3.

01:36:40.287 --> 01:36:41.470
Thank you very much.

01:36:41.470 --> 01:36:43.239
Now we've got it and I think it's clear.

01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:46.002
Now we're gonna take a vote on the amendment of insertion.

01:36:46.002 --> 01:36:46.835
This is an insertion.

01:36:46.835 --> 01:36:49.918
We're not deleting anything, correct?

01:36:51.751 --> 01:36:55.863
It will now read, if you took Dr. Ellis' paper.

01:36:55.863 --> 01:36:57.362
Everybody got Dr. Ellis' paper?

01:36:57.362 --> 01:37:00.484
'Cause that's where we are right now.

01:37:00.484 --> 01:37:04.201
What we're gonna do after, "compare and contrast prokaryotic

01:37:04.201 --> 01:37:08.368
"and eukaryotic cells, including their complexity,

01:37:10.704 --> 01:37:13.393
"and compare and contrast scientific explanations

01:37:13.393 --> 01:37:15.560
"for cellular complexity."

01:37:17.426 --> 01:37:20.176
All those--I'm sorry, Mr. Cortez?

01:37:22.740 --> 01:37:25.806
<v ->Again, member who offered the amendment,</v>

01:37:25.806 --> 01:37:27.742
who went and spoke with Mr. Wetherington,

01:37:27.742 --> 01:37:31.118
I'd love Mr. Wetherington to come and tell us

01:37:31.118 --> 01:37:34.069
what the implication of this amendment means overall

01:37:34.069 --> 01:37:35.661
to this specific standard.

01:37:35.661 --> 01:37:37.874
<v Mrs. Bahorich>We'd have to have a majority vote--</v>

01:37:37.874 --> 01:37:40.570
<v ->I would ask for a record vote to ask the expert</v>

01:37:40.570 --> 01:37:42.551
to come and explain to us.

01:37:42.551 --> 01:37:45.804
<v ->So, we can hold our hands up.</v>

01:37:45.804 --> 01:37:49.418
He's asking again on a different--

01:37:49.418 --> 01:37:53.100
<v ->On this amendment.
<v ->On this motion.</v>

01:37:53.100 --> 01:37:55.700
All those in favor of hearing from an expert,

01:37:55.700 --> 01:37:57.033
raise your hand.

01:37:59.087 --> 01:38:00.952
<v ->Not too fast.
<v ->Okay, not too fast.</v>

01:38:00.952 --> 01:38:03.869
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:38:08.602 --> 01:38:10.210
Okay, motion fails.
<v ->That is a record vote,</v>

01:38:10.210 --> 01:38:11.945
right ma'am?

01:38:11.945 --> 01:38:15.195
<v ->Yes, 'cause they held their hands up.</v>

01:38:27.266 --> 01:38:28.099
Ms. Perez?

01:38:31.496 --> 01:38:32.758
She had a question, I think.

01:38:32.758 --> 01:38:35.113
Did you have a question?

01:38:35.113 --> 01:38:37.428
<v ->May I ask for a recess, please.</v>

01:38:37.428 --> 01:38:39.749
Because if we're gonna consult with experts

01:38:39.749 --> 01:38:42.671
then give us time to consult with experts.

01:38:42.671 --> 01:38:43.750
Thank you.

01:38:43.750 --> 01:38:45.043
<v ->I'm totally fine with that.</v>

01:38:45.043 --> 01:38:46.535
Okay, 10 minutes.

01:38:46.535 --> 01:38:47.743
<v ->Whoa, whoa, whoa.</v>

01:38:47.743 --> 01:38:49.648
<v ->Can't we just break in the middle or you can't?</v>

01:38:49.648 --> 01:38:52.031
<v ->Yes, you can but you need to vote on it.</v>

01:38:52.031 --> 01:38:53.101
<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

01:38:53.101 --> 01:38:55.384
Let's vote on taking a break.

01:38:55.384 --> 01:38:56.762
For 10 minutes.

01:38:56.762 --> 01:38:58.904
All those in favor of taking a break for 10 minutes

01:38:58.904 --> 01:39:00.307
to let folks consult with the folks

01:39:00.307 --> 01:39:03.640
they'd like to talk to, raise your hand.

01:39:06.108 --> 01:39:07.608
All those opposed.

01:39:09.498 --> 01:39:13.045
Okay, motion carries, so, yes, we are taking a break.

01:39:13.045 --> 01:39:14.378
10 minute break.

01:39:21.914 --> 01:39:25.497
Members, we need to go ahead and get moving.

01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:56.229
The amendment before us, and it's time to vote,

01:39:56.229 --> 01:39:58.729
is that the item will now say,

01:40:00.346 --> 01:40:04.513
"Compare and contrast prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells,

01:40:05.766 --> 01:40:09.452
"including their complexity, and compare and contrast

01:40:09.452 --> 01:40:12.500
"scientific explanations for cellular complexity."

01:40:12.500 --> 01:40:14.405
All those in favor say, "Aye."

01:40:14.405 --> 01:40:16.034
Oh, sorry, raise your hand.

01:40:16.034 --> 01:40:18.951
All those in favor, raise your hand.

01:40:24.064 --> 01:40:26.305
All those opposed.

01:40:26.305 --> 01:40:29.472
Hearing no opposition, motion carries.

01:40:32.806 --> 01:40:33.639
Next one.

01:40:36.606 --> 01:40:38.239
Do we have any more Biology?

01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:41.239
I want to get finished with Biology.

01:40:46.527 --> 01:40:47.527
Yes, please.

01:40:49.168 --> 01:40:54.014
<v ->Members, if you'll look on Page 7 of the minutes,</v>

01:40:54.014 --> 01:40:57.286
and then Page I-52 in your notebook.

01:40:57.286 --> 01:40:58.119
I-52.

01:41:00.786 --> 01:41:02.369
We're in 5th Grade.

01:41:04.126 --> 01:41:08.752
In the minutes, you'll see that on Wednesday we voted,

01:41:08.752 --> 01:41:11.174
"Demonstrate that mixtures including solutions

01:41:11.174 --> 01:41:14.007
"maintain physical properties of their ingredients

01:41:14.007 --> 01:41:16.891
"such as iron filings and sand, sand and water,

01:41:16.891 --> 01:41:18.790
"and salt and water."

01:41:18.790 --> 01:41:21.967
My motion would be to go back to the original language

01:41:21.967 --> 01:41:25.012
which you can see on page I-52.

01:41:25.012 --> 01:41:28.512
<v ->So you would strike "or sand and water?"</v>

01:41:30.836 --> 01:41:32.842
<v ->I think it'd be easier just to strike the whole thing</v>

01:41:32.842 --> 01:41:36.258
we did on Wednesday and to accept what's on Page I-52.

01:41:36.258 --> 01:41:37.451
<v Mrs. Bahorich>What is it on our notes here?</v>

01:41:37.451 --> 01:41:39.534
Where is it on our notes?

01:41:42.029 --> 01:41:43.888
<v ->It's right in the middle.</v>

01:41:43.888 --> 01:41:44.932
Okay, let me read it.

01:41:44.932 --> 01:41:45.963
You're right, I should've read this.

01:41:45.963 --> 01:41:47.380
Section 112.16 (B)(5)(C)

01:41:49.457 --> 01:41:52.103
<v ->{Mrs. Bahorich] Okay, got it.</v>

01:41:52.103 --> 01:41:55.122
<v ->So, striking that language and reinserting</v>

01:41:55.122 --> 01:41:58.137
the original language which was on Page I-52.

01:41:58.137 --> 01:42:00.821
"Demonstrate that some mixtures maintain physical properties

01:42:00.821 --> 01:42:03.339
"of their ingredients such as iron filings and sand,

01:42:03.339 --> 01:42:05.226
"or sand and water, and,"

01:42:05.226 --> 01:42:08.400
it actually used to be two standards.

01:42:08.400 --> 01:42:10.532
"And identify changes that can occur

01:42:10.532 --> 01:42:12.915
"in the physical properties of the ingredients of mixtures

01:42:12.915 --> 01:42:15.682
"such as creating solutions by dissolving salt and water--

01:42:15.682 --> 01:42:18.035
<v ->I must not be looking at the right thing here.</v>

01:42:18.035 --> 01:42:20.785
I have no idea where we are here.

01:42:22.317 --> 01:42:24.415
<v Ms. Cargill>Page 7.</v>

01:42:24.415 --> 01:42:25.859
<v ->I'm on 7.</v>

01:42:25.859 --> 01:42:26.993
<v ->That's right.</v>

01:42:26.993 --> 01:42:30.160
But now we want 'em to go back to two.

01:42:31.072 --> 01:42:35.239
<v Mr. Overbey>Strike out C and insert a B, okay?</v>

01:42:37.957 --> 01:42:39.431
They struck out C and inserted a new B.

01:42:39.431 --> 01:42:41.467
Now she wants to put the B and C back in.

01:42:41.467 --> 01:42:44.510
<v ->We would just get rid of what we did on Wednesday</v>

01:42:44.510 --> 01:42:46.218
and go back to the original.

01:42:46.218 --> 01:42:48.468
In the middle of Page I-52.

01:42:53.842 --> 01:42:56.259
We're happy to hold a lesson.

01:42:59.620 --> 01:43:02.210
<v ->Oh, put this back in?</v>

01:43:02.210 --> 01:43:05.460
Okay, put it all back in as it is here?

01:43:07.695 --> 01:43:09.069
Ms. Cargill, I just want to make sure.

01:43:09.069 --> 01:43:13.059
On Page I-52, in the middle there, 5B?

01:43:13.059 --> 01:43:15.882
<v ->And C.
<v ->Okay, B and C.</v>

01:43:15.882 --> 01:43:20.708
We would be putting it in just as we're reading it here.

01:43:20.708 --> 01:43:23.249
So, none of these were other words

01:43:23.249 --> 01:43:24.082
in the rule textbook.

01:43:24.082 --> 01:43:25.755
<v ->They'll probably overlap but it's gonna be too hard--</v>

01:43:25.755 --> 01:43:27.390
<v ->It's too hard to straighten it out.</v>

01:43:27.390 --> 01:43:29.612
I'm just saying, as we're reading it and members are voting.

01:43:29.612 --> 01:43:33.223
I just want to make sure they're voting on

01:43:33.223 --> 01:43:36.415
retaining the information there in B and C.

01:43:36.415 --> 01:43:38.862
<v ->This is in response to teachers to whom</v>

01:43:38.862 --> 01:43:40.721
think all of us listen.

01:43:40.721 --> 01:43:43.826
The problem is sometimes our teachers don't agree.

01:43:43.826 --> 01:43:48.608
We represent our district and that's what has happened here.

01:43:48.608 --> 01:43:50.486
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes?</v>

01:43:50.486 --> 01:43:51.857
<v ->I do just want to point out</v>

01:43:51.857 --> 01:43:56.024
that you received several public comments related to 5C

01:43:56.911 --> 01:43:58.994
as proposed on Page 1-52.

01:44:00.255 --> 01:44:02.633
The commenters were saying that it

01:44:02.633 --> 01:44:06.295
is a confusing student expectation.

01:44:06.295 --> 01:44:09.091
I just wanted to make sure to put that out there.

01:44:09.091 --> 01:44:12.193
One proposal, one commenter suggested

01:44:12.193 --> 01:44:14.966
that you revert to the original language

01:44:14.966 --> 01:44:19.691
of that student expectation as it currently exists.

01:44:19.691 --> 01:44:21.639
I can grab the other comments and see

01:44:21.639 --> 01:44:23.149
if there were other suggestions.

01:44:23.149 --> 01:44:25.050
<v Mrs. Bahorich>I mean, do you have the original language?</v>

01:44:25.050 --> 01:44:26.722
<v ->The original language would just read</v>

01:44:26.722 --> 01:44:28.701
without those strike throughs and underlines.

01:44:28.701 --> 01:44:31.022
It would read, "Identify changes that can occur

01:44:31.022 --> 01:44:33.525
"in the physical properties of the ingredients

01:44:33.525 --> 01:44:37.479
"of solutions such as dissolving salt in water

01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:40.843
"or adding lemon juice to water."

01:44:40.843 --> 01:44:42.820
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Go back to the original.</v>

01:44:42.820 --> 01:44:45.058
<v ->The comments were only related to C.</v>

01:44:45.058 --> 01:44:47.308
They were not related to B.

01:44:51.805 --> 01:44:53.399
<v ->So do you want to amend your motion to do that?</v>

01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:55.078
<v ->Yeah, I would amend to accept that</v>

01:44:55.078 --> 01:44:57.748
because I had a lot of complaints about this one, too,

01:44:57.748 --> 01:44:58.860
and attempted to fix it.

01:44:58.860 --> 01:45:01.360
But the fix didn't quite work.

01:45:02.868 --> 01:45:05.962
I would amend my amendment to go back

01:45:05.962 --> 01:45:08.473
to what Shelly just read which would be,

01:45:08.473 --> 01:45:11.088
"Identify changes that can occur in the physical properties

01:45:11.088 --> 01:45:15.171
"of the ingredients of solutions," right, Shelly?

01:45:16.238 --> 01:45:17.745
"By dissolving salt in water

01:45:17.745 --> 01:45:20.216
"or adding lemon juice to water."

01:45:20.216 --> 01:45:21.445
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Such as dissolving--</v>

01:45:21.445 --> 01:45:23.195
<v ->Oh, sorry, such as.</v>

01:45:24.041 --> 01:45:25.215
<v ->So, the amendment before us.</v>

01:45:25.215 --> 01:45:27.268
I just want to make sure everybody's got--

01:45:27.268 --> 01:45:28.914
I'm sorry, Mr. Rowley.

01:45:28.914 --> 01:45:32.764
<v ->Does the one above it, does "sand and water" stay in?</v>

01:45:32.764 --> 01:45:33.847
<v ->Yes.
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:45:36.381 --> 01:45:39.386
<v ->If you are in your rule text, I-52,</v>

01:45:39.386 --> 01:45:42.158
it's gonna look exactly the same as B now

01:45:42.158 --> 01:45:43.275
on this vote.

01:45:43.275 --> 01:45:45.594
B's gonna look exactly like it looks there.

01:45:45.594 --> 01:45:49.356
On C, in fact, we are not doing the strike throughs

01:45:49.356 --> 01:45:52.039
and we are not doing the adds.

01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:53.489
We're taking "mixtures" out.

01:45:53.489 --> 01:45:55.857
We're taking out "creating solutions by."

01:45:55.857 --> 01:45:57.433
Does everybody see that?

01:45:57.433 --> 01:46:00.100
We're putting "solutions" back in.

01:46:01.113 --> 01:46:03.986
Back to the original language.

01:46:03.986 --> 01:46:05.288
Is everybody clear?

01:46:05.288 --> 01:46:07.955
That one got a little confusing.

01:46:09.091 --> 01:46:11.936
No, "such as" is already in there.

01:46:11.936 --> 01:46:14.154
So, here's what the two amendments would read.

01:46:14.154 --> 01:46:15.157
Just to make sure.

01:46:15.157 --> 01:46:18.698
I'm just gonna read exactly how it will read now.

01:46:18.698 --> 01:46:20.970
B will be, "Demonstrate that some mixtures

01:46:20.970 --> 01:46:23.016
"maintain physical properties of their ingredients

01:46:23.016 --> 01:46:25.516
"such as iron filings and sand

01:46:26.976 --> 01:46:28.643
"or sand and water."

01:46:29.701 --> 01:46:32.859
And C will read, "Identify changes that can occur

01:46:32.859 --> 01:46:36.313
"in the physical properties of the ingredients of solutions

01:46:36.313 --> 01:46:39.009
"such as dissolving salt in water

01:46:39.009 --> 01:46:41.318
"or adding lemon juice to water."

01:46:41.318 --> 01:46:44.235
All those in favor, raise your hand.

01:46:48.738 --> 01:46:50.984
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:46:50.984 --> 01:46:52.731
Motion carries.

01:46:52.731 --> 01:46:53.935
All right?

01:46:53.935 --> 01:46:55.935
Any others, Ms. Cargill?

01:46:56.914 --> 01:46:59.331
Any other changes on Science?

01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.424
Okay, we got through Science.

01:47:06.424 --> 01:47:09.707
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz.</v>

01:47:09.707 --> 01:47:11.913
Oh, I'm sorry.
<v ->It was actually me.</v>

01:47:11.913 --> 01:47:13.663
<v ->Yeah, Ms. Martinez.</v>

01:47:15.054 --> 01:47:16.745
Ms. Martinez?

01:47:16.745 --> 01:47:19.912
<v ->We had a request that you permit us,</v>

01:47:20.749 --> 01:47:25.091
there were some amendments that were made on Wednesday

01:47:25.091 --> 01:47:28.114
that changed "methods" to "practices."

01:47:28.114 --> 01:47:31.642
We're not sure that we captured those everywhere

01:47:31.642 --> 01:47:33.999
in the student expectations.

01:47:33.999 --> 01:47:36.249
So, if you will allow staff

01:47:37.341 --> 01:47:40.231
to make appropriate adjustments

01:47:40.231 --> 01:47:43.831
from the word "methods" to "practices" in all grade levels,

01:47:43.831 --> 01:47:46.564
we'd like to be able to do that for consistency.

01:47:46.564 --> 01:47:49.814
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Is there any objection?</v>

01:47:49.814 --> 01:47:51.961
<v ->And any other technical change.</v>

01:47:51.961 --> 01:47:54.628
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Any objection.</v>

01:47:55.536 --> 01:47:58.326
<v ->When you take the vote on the,</v>

01:47:58.326 --> 01:48:00.488
take the final vote.

01:48:00.488 --> 01:48:02.827
The motion in the agenda book was

01:48:02.827 --> 01:48:06.753
with an effective date of August of 2017.

01:48:06.753 --> 01:48:11.008
The motion in your minutes did not have an effective date.

01:48:11.008 --> 01:48:15.736
We would ask that you vote with an effective date

01:48:15.736 --> 01:48:17.569
of August 27 of 2018.

01:48:19.396 --> 01:48:24.357
What that will do is maintain the current standards

01:48:24.357 --> 01:48:27.093
for the 17-18 school year.

01:48:27.093 --> 01:48:30.430
Then make these changes effective at the start

01:48:30.430 --> 01:48:33.165
of the 2018-19 school year.

01:48:33.165 --> 01:48:36.724
<v Mrs. Bahorich>She's trying to change the school year.</v>

01:48:36.724 --> 01:48:38.474
<v ->August 27 of 2018.</v>

01:48:40.200 --> 01:48:44.367
That will be the first Monday of the school year in 2018.

01:48:45.850 --> 01:48:48.683
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Maynard?</v>

01:48:52.409 --> 01:48:55.336
<v ->Just in terms of the effective date.</v>

01:48:55.336 --> 01:48:58.919
I've gotten some mixed reaction about that.

01:49:00.331 --> 01:49:02.664
If we're truly streamlining,

01:49:03.601 --> 01:49:07.768
even if they didn't get the memo and taught the old TEKS,

01:49:08.606 --> 01:49:09.941
they would probably be okay

01:49:09.941 --> 01:49:13.108
because they just taught more content.

01:49:14.776 --> 01:49:18.083
If the assessment was on the streamlined TEKS,

01:49:18.083 --> 01:49:19.523
but they had taught the old TEKS

01:49:19.523 --> 01:49:22.036
that they should still be okay.

01:49:22.036 --> 01:49:24.119
I'm just kind of curious.

01:49:29.400 --> 01:49:32.241
<v ->Just reminding everybody about the conversation</v>

01:49:32.241 --> 01:49:33.871
that we had the other day.

01:49:33.871 --> 01:49:36.775
Several folks were talking about the issues

01:49:36.775 --> 01:49:40.255
that they end up with when you are taking out TEKS

01:49:40.255 --> 01:49:42.086
'cause you're gonna change the numbering.

01:49:42.086 --> 01:49:43.460
Things are gonna be changing in the TEKS

01:49:43.460 --> 01:49:46.754
and you're gonna have to have cross-correlation documents.

01:49:46.754 --> 01:49:49.129
Both instructional materials and staff's gonna

01:49:49.129 --> 01:49:51.333
have to put together.

01:49:51.333 --> 01:49:54.431
There are a lot of things that have to happen.

01:49:54.431 --> 01:49:59.241
And Assessments also is going to have to realign,

01:49:59.241 --> 01:50:01.324
and that won't be done by 17.

01:50:02.870 --> 01:50:05.287
You stop me if I'm off, okay?

01:50:08.345 --> 01:50:12.389
To have everything in sync, that was the recommendation.

01:50:12.389 --> 01:50:14.448
What we want to do is up to you guys.

01:50:14.448 --> 01:50:17.166
I'm just saying that we heard a lot of folks

01:50:17.166 --> 01:50:19.856
talking about all of the work that really,

01:50:19.856 --> 01:50:22.647
it sounds like you're not doing much but taking out,

01:50:22.647 --> 01:50:25.696
but it causes quite a bit of work on the districts' parts,

01:50:25.696 --> 01:50:28.449
on Assessments' part, on the publishers' parts.

01:50:28.449 --> 01:50:31.810
Everybody has to get their re-syncing done.

01:50:31.810 --> 01:50:34.143
And it's not done instantly.

01:50:37.970 --> 01:50:39.103
I hope that answered the question.

01:50:39.103 --> 01:50:39.936
I don't know what you want to vote,

01:50:39.936 --> 01:50:42.565
but I'm just saying, that was what we heard.

01:50:42.565 --> 01:50:45.983
<v ->I suppose what I'm doing is I'm just asking the question</v>

01:50:45.983 --> 01:50:48.753
and saying, well, what is possible?

01:50:48.753 --> 01:50:51.142
Because I think that there is certainly a segment

01:50:51.142 --> 01:50:52.503
of our teachers out there that say,

01:50:52.503 --> 01:50:54.863
"We would really like to have that narrowed down

01:50:54.863 --> 01:50:56.870
"as far as the assessment goes.

01:50:56.870 --> 01:50:58.817
"We would like to have the narrowed down TEKS."

01:50:58.817 --> 01:51:00.668
Because, really, that kind of helps us

01:51:00.668 --> 01:51:03.212
and really gives us a little bit of relief.

01:51:03.212 --> 01:51:04.795
If that's possible.

01:51:06.505 --> 01:51:10.672
We just need to hear from staff and see what is possible.

01:51:13.763 --> 01:51:17.606
<v ->I think, all along, we anticipated that if this</v>

01:51:17.606 --> 01:51:21.613
was a true streamlining that we would be able

01:51:21.613 --> 01:51:24.946
to implement in the 2017-18 school year.

01:51:26.755 --> 01:51:29.849
We made sure that we were carefully consulting

01:51:29.849 --> 01:51:31.749
with Student Assessment staff to ensure

01:51:31.749 --> 01:51:34.070
that they would be able to make the shift

01:51:34.070 --> 01:51:37.180
for implementation in the 2017-18 school year.

01:51:37.180 --> 01:51:39.625
I think, from our perspective,

01:51:39.625 --> 01:51:42.495
we feel like we would be able to take the steps

01:51:42.495 --> 01:51:46.896
that we would need to take for the 17-18 implementation.

01:51:46.896 --> 01:51:48.072
That might be different from

01:51:48.072 --> 01:51:51.034
what a school district feels like they need

01:51:51.034 --> 01:51:54.284
in order to prepare for implementation.

01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:59.406
My understanding was that the intent was to try to get

01:52:01.494 --> 01:52:03.409
these standards to the point where teachers

01:52:03.409 --> 01:52:05.802
were teaching less, and if you're expecting them

01:52:05.802 --> 01:52:08.696
to teach less, the sooner the better.

01:52:08.696 --> 01:52:13.270
I think that was the path that we started off on.

01:52:13.270 --> 01:52:15.442
If you're hearing that folks need more time

01:52:15.442 --> 01:52:17.510
to make adjustments locally,

01:52:17.510 --> 01:52:19.717
that would be, I think, a separate issue

01:52:19.717 --> 01:52:22.384
that we couldn't really address.

01:52:23.553 --> 01:52:27.492
<v ->I just want to say, when I called originally about this</v>

01:52:27.492 --> 01:52:29.388
and I've now forgotten 'cause it's been so long ago

01:52:29.388 --> 01:52:31.605
'cause we did it at the beginning of this process.

01:52:31.605 --> 01:52:32.682
When something's streamlined,

01:52:32.682 --> 01:52:34.202
I understood that it could take a year

01:52:34.202 --> 01:52:37.220
to get the Assessments part done

01:52:37.220 --> 01:52:41.276
because you got to put out new blueprint thing

01:52:41.276 --> 01:52:43.722
and that sort of thing.

01:52:43.722 --> 01:52:46.551
<v ->We confirmed, again, with our colleagues</v>

01:52:46.551 --> 01:52:49.326
in Student Assessment that they would be able

01:52:49.326 --> 01:52:52.297
to implement assessments aligned

01:52:52.297 --> 01:52:55.178
with the streamlined standards in 17-18.

01:52:55.178 --> 01:52:58.188
They said, that given the scope of the changes,

01:52:58.188 --> 01:52:59.521
that they could.

01:53:01.220 --> 01:53:03.368
<v ->When would information, though, go to the field?</v>

01:53:03.368 --> 01:53:05.114
Like, they always have to put out a lot of stuff

01:53:05.114 --> 01:53:07.356
before an assessment.

01:53:07.356 --> 01:53:09.777
<v ->It's gonna depend.</v>

01:53:09.777 --> 01:53:11.658
I think you've gotta go back and look at

01:53:11.658 --> 01:53:15.490
what has actually changed in the grades that are assessed.

01:53:15.490 --> 01:53:19.173
We don't assess science at every grade.

01:53:19.173 --> 01:53:23.090
Not every student expectation has been changed.

01:53:24.082 --> 01:53:26.499
I don't have an answer about how quickly

01:53:26.499 --> 01:53:29.082
they could get information out.

01:53:31.476 --> 01:53:33.659
Similar to the issue of the number

01:53:33.659 --> 01:53:36.767
of student expectation numbers that would be impacted,

01:53:36.767 --> 01:53:40.523
the visual we gave you is in one grade level, it's two.

01:53:40.523 --> 01:53:43.566
It's gonna vary and we are only talking

01:53:43.566 --> 01:53:46.546
about a handful of grades that are tested.

01:53:46.546 --> 01:53:50.421
Because we don't test that many grades in science.

01:53:50.421 --> 01:53:53.838
<v ->Two of the sciences tests are inclusive</v>

01:53:54.855 --> 01:53:56.938
of three grades, correct?

01:53:59.997 --> 01:54:04.164
8th Grade is testing over 6th, 7th, and 8th, correct?

01:54:05.176 --> 01:54:07.575
<v ->Oh, that covers the content?</v>

01:54:07.575 --> 01:54:11.325
It covers 8th Grade content.
<v ->Just 8th Grade.</v>

01:54:15.311 --> 01:54:17.898
I want to make sure that we're clear on what is assessed

01:54:17.898 --> 01:54:21.981
'cause I think it's three grades in some of them.

01:54:26.540 --> 01:54:28.778
<v ->So, our understanding is the 8th Grade STAAR exam</v>

01:54:28.778 --> 01:54:33.197
for science does include content from 6th and 7th.

01:54:33.197 --> 01:54:36.224
But the lower STAAR exam grade does not

01:54:36.224 --> 01:54:37.821
include multiple grade levels.

01:54:37.821 --> 01:54:40.582
<v Mrs. Choric>So, 5th Grade only includes 5th Grade?</v>

01:54:40.582 --> 01:54:42.462
<v ->That's my understanding,</v>

01:54:42.462 --> 01:54:45.045
and staff's confirming that.

01:54:50.538 --> 01:54:51.718
<v ->Well, that should be a real clear question</v>

01:54:51.718 --> 01:54:52.894
with a cut and dry answer.

01:54:52.894 --> 01:54:56.148
I want to make sure we understand that.

01:54:56.148 --> 01:54:58.698
All that does is complicate the alignment,

01:54:58.698 --> 01:55:00.637
is all I'm trying to say.

01:55:00.637 --> 01:55:02.363
Mr. Cortez.

01:55:02.363 --> 01:55:06.613
<v ->I initially supported moving it to 2018</v>

01:55:06.613 --> 01:55:09.598
when Mr. Maynard made the motion.

01:55:09.598 --> 01:55:13.765
I did that because I thought staff would need more time.

01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:17.452
I feel a lot more comfortable knowing,

01:55:17.452 --> 01:55:20.869
having heard Monica give her explanation.

01:55:22.906 --> 01:55:26.358
I got a text from the Rio Grande Valley Science Association

01:55:26.358 --> 01:55:28.451
that they'd like to start ASAP.

01:55:28.451 --> 01:55:30.584
Going back to Mr. Maynard's comment about,

01:55:30.584 --> 01:55:32.601
if we're able to give those teachers that relief,

01:55:32.601 --> 01:55:34.508
then it should begin immediately.

01:55:34.508 --> 01:55:38.498
That's the whole purpose of the streamlining.

01:55:38.498 --> 01:55:41.840
I would ask that we reconsider the effective start date

01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:44.673
of this streamlining as a member--

01:55:45.897 --> 01:55:49.067
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Right now, we actually have it as 2017.</v>

01:55:49.067 --> 01:55:51.317
<v ->No, but we voted in 2018.</v>

01:55:53.013 --> 01:55:55.346
On Wednesday, we amended it.

01:55:58.679 --> 01:56:01.499
<v ->I didn't think we amended it.</v>

01:56:01.499 --> 01:56:02.924
Sorry, Ms. Hardy.

01:56:02.924 --> 01:56:05.265
<v ->Madam Chair, if I may clarify.</v>

01:56:05.265 --> 01:56:07.682
What you amended on Wednesday

01:56:08.933 --> 01:56:12.101
is the implementation language.

01:56:12.101 --> 01:56:13.845
What I was asking for a little bit earlier

01:56:13.845 --> 01:56:16.595
was the effective date.

01:56:16.595 --> 01:56:18.782
So, whatever your implementation is,

01:56:18.782 --> 01:56:21.990
we just need to make sure we have the right effective date.

01:56:21.990 --> 01:56:24.187
You did make an amendment to,

01:56:24.187 --> 01:56:27.712
Dr. Ellis offered an amendment to three sections

01:56:27.712 --> 01:56:31.879
that identify the school year when we will implement.

01:56:33.374 --> 01:56:35.370
It'll take me a minute to find it in your minutes.

01:56:35.370 --> 01:56:39.142
But that is something that you did take action on

01:56:39.142 --> 01:56:40.274
on Wednesday.

01:56:40.274 --> 01:56:42.891
<v Mrs. Bahorich>What was that action?</v>

01:56:42.891 --> 01:56:45.363
<v ->I'm looking for that right now.</v>

01:56:45.363 --> 01:56:49.487
<v Mrs. Bahorich>We need to be in sync, right?</v>

01:56:49.487 --> 01:56:52.237
<v ->Yes. It's on Page 8 of your minutes.</v>

01:56:57.855 --> 01:57:00.703
The second Motion and Vote from the bottom.

01:57:00.703 --> 01:57:03.853
So, you got a vote then a Motion and Vote.

01:57:03.853 --> 01:57:06.130
The one immediately above that

01:57:06.130 --> 01:57:09.020
is the motion by Dr. Ellis to recommend

01:57:09.020 --> 01:57:12.445
that the State Board of Education amend 112.10,

01:57:12.445 --> 01:57:16.279
112.17, and 112.31 to change implementation

01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:17.279
from 2017-18

01:57:18.762 --> 01:57:19.679
to 2018-19.

01:57:25.339 --> 01:57:29.094
It's different from the effective date in that

01:57:29.094 --> 01:57:33.772
this language identifies when you intend to implement.

01:57:33.772 --> 01:57:36.903
The effective date has an impact.

01:57:36.903 --> 01:57:40.498
The rules, unlike the English and Spanish Language Arts

01:57:40.498 --> 01:57:43.887
where we're actually going to be wholesale replacing

01:57:43.887 --> 01:57:45.963
what is there now,

01:57:45.963 --> 01:57:48.716
this is actually amending the language.

01:57:48.716 --> 01:57:50.426
When we make this kind of an amendment,

01:57:50.426 --> 01:57:54.842
we have to be careful that we don't change the language

01:57:54.842 --> 01:57:56.592
before you implement.

01:57:58.246 --> 01:58:02.108
If you made these changes effective in 2017,

01:58:02.108 --> 01:58:05.284
then the rule text would change, and it would not match

01:58:05.284 --> 01:58:09.517
what you're expecting teachers to implement in 17-18.

01:58:09.517 --> 01:58:11.609
Whatever the decision is, we need to make sure

01:58:11.609 --> 01:58:14.276
that the effective date matches.

01:58:16.751 --> 01:58:18.280
<v ->In essence, if we decide to move this up,</v>

01:58:18.280 --> 01:58:20.613
we could go back to 2017-18.

01:58:24.619 --> 01:58:27.048
<v ->You would need to undo that amendment</v>

01:58:27.048 --> 01:58:30.298
and then you would need to have the...

01:58:34.813 --> 01:58:36.600
<v ->Ms. Hardy, you had a quick comment on--</v>

01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:39.394
<v ->No, I have a quick comment about that date.</v>

01:58:39.394 --> 01:58:42.400
I'm telling you, my people have already talked

01:58:42.400 --> 01:58:45.254
about the technology of switching this out.

01:58:45.254 --> 01:58:47.004
I know it's very easy

01:58:50.842 --> 01:58:52.046
for smaller districts,

01:58:52.046 --> 01:58:54.606
but larger districts do not want to do this

01:58:54.606 --> 01:58:56.458
because they have to bring in all the people

01:58:56.458 --> 01:58:58.855
to do the staff development for this.

01:58:58.855 --> 01:59:01.022
But, the way I look at it,

01:59:03.650 --> 01:59:07.049
if you keep it at 18-19, is that right?

01:59:07.049 --> 01:59:11.756
18-19, and people wanna start with it in 17-18,

01:59:11.756 --> 01:59:13.960
it's no skin off anyone's back.

01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:16.541
But it is skin off anyone's back if you

01:59:16.541 --> 01:59:18.405
have to move it to 17-18.

01:59:18.405 --> 01:59:20.553
In other words, you put the pressure on these bigger

01:59:20.553 --> 01:59:23.260
school districts to have to get this ready

01:59:23.260 --> 01:59:25.513
for the beginning of the school year.

01:59:25.513 --> 01:59:29.932
If you wait to 18-19, people want to get ready for it.

01:59:29.932 --> 01:59:32.335
Whenever we've done standards,

01:59:32.335 --> 01:59:35.344
even though the actual due date is such and such,

01:59:35.344 --> 01:59:37.876
you have to have it on this date starting,

01:59:37.876 --> 01:59:40.419
districts will jump ahead and do it ahead of time,

01:59:40.419 --> 01:59:42.188
it's no big deal.

01:59:42.188 --> 01:59:44.112
As long as they know that they're covering

01:59:44.112 --> 01:59:47.905
under whatever they need to do for the testing.

01:59:47.905 --> 01:59:51.143
I think we really need to consider that.

01:59:51.143 --> 01:59:52.893
Just let it be 18-19.

01:59:53.990 --> 01:59:56.983
The bigger districts will then be able to get caught up

01:59:56.983 --> 01:59:59.432
with the technology needed to change

01:59:59.432 --> 02:00:03.140
their curriculums and all that sort of stuff.

02:00:03.140 --> 02:00:06.698
<v ->I just got some notes from teachers sending me notes.</v>

02:00:06.698 --> 02:00:10.070
The 5th Grade STAAR does include 3rd and 4th.

02:00:10.070 --> 02:00:11.935
I'm a little confused about this

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'cause we had to be clear from staff on this.

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Okay.

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'Cause I understood both of the tests had multiple grades.

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Absolutely.

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We have to have a motion to adopt.

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That would be the first one that we would change.

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But, let me get Ms. Perez-Diaz and then Ms. Beltran

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before we get to that.

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<v ->I sort of got skipped around.</v>

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So, this may seem like a late comment.

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I have to say, I agree with pushing up this date

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if it means relief for our teachers sooner than later.

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Essentially, what we're doing when we're going

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through the streamlining process,

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we shouldn't be adding anything.

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It's a matter of taking away so that our teachers

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can delve in deeper into the curriculum

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and the instruction.

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I feel like a vote we just took a little while ago,

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made specifically by O4A just made something like that

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more convoluted.

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Which I had a lot of heartburn with,

02:01:13.977 --> 02:01:16.368
but it was the only option we were left with.

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I think that if we can keep ourselves

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from adding to the TEKS during a streamlining process,

02:01:22.773 --> 02:01:26.014
then providing that relief early on for our educators

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is the best, I think in my opinion, is the best thing

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that we can do for them.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Ms. Beltran.</v>

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<v ->Thank you Madam Chair.</v>

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Yeah, I just wanted to echo some of the similar sentiments.

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I'm also getting messages and text messages

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from the field.

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I think while we intended to streamline,

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we didn't always streamline,

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and I'm wearing my hat as a former teacher as well,

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of just, kind of, any tweaks that we make

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are gonna impact just how we're implementing

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the curriculum longer term.

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If we implement this coming school year,

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it only gives school districts two months

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to prepare for that.

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Also, I'm hearing that for some

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of the smaller, rural districts who depend

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on the service centers,

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they have even a smaller time crunch,

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and so, my recommendation would be to support

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what we have passed earlier this week

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and keep the implementation date for 2018-2019.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Mr. Maynard?</v>

02:02:24.745 --> 02:02:28.569
<v ->I would just echo what Ms. Perez-Diaz said.</v>

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That's kind of what my thought was,

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if we truly narrowed that.

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But there is a lot of logistics

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in terms of correlating materials

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and as we've re-numbered things.

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As my recollection, originally,

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we were gonna finish this in January.

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We didn't finish it in January.

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Here it is in April.

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We just don't have a lot of time.

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I think a good philosophy sometimes is "do no harm."

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My first inclination is to move faster,

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but what I'm hearing is that, really,

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in order to affect that and to implement that

02:03:09.006 --> 02:03:10.533
is gonna take a little more time.

02:03:10.533 --> 02:03:12.383
It gets a little messy.

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I would support the 18-19 implementation.

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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I believe there's a motion to amend.

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We do have a motion to amend the effective date

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to August 27, 2018.

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We need to vote on whether we want

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to amend that date or not.

02:03:33.176 --> 02:03:34.009
<v ->Actually, we don't have it.</v>

02:03:34.009 --> 02:03:36.388
There is no date yet.

02:03:36.388 --> 02:03:37.756
That's what Monica was saying.

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The motion read out of the minutes

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did not have an effective date on it.

02:03:40.918 --> 02:03:44.502
<v ->I think Mr. Cortez asked for reconsideration</v>

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of the amendment to
<v ->Oh, you mean from the notes.</v>

02:03:48.999 --> 02:03:51.999
<v ->the implementation date on Page 8.</v>

02:03:56.705 --> 02:03:59.501
<v ->But this is not a Committee of the Full Board.</v>

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There is no reconsideration.

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You can simply move to amend the report.

02:04:04.681 --> 02:04:06.055
You don't have to reconsider.

02:04:06.055 --> 02:04:10.299
Because this board didn't meet until today.

02:04:10.299 --> 02:04:13.869
So he can make a motion to amend what's in the report.

02:04:13.869 --> 02:04:14.952
You get that?

02:04:15.846 --> 02:04:17.076
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:04:17.076 --> 02:04:19.238
<v ->You don't  reconsider it, you just move to amend it.</v>

02:04:19.238 --> 02:04:20.399
<v ->Amend what's in the report</v>

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if that's what you want to do.

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Then we'll align that up with this.

02:04:24.605 --> 02:04:26.565
Okay, what page is it on, just to make sure?

02:04:26.565 --> 02:04:28.630
<v ->Page 8, it's gonna be,</v>

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you'll see a vote at the very bottom,

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and then a Motion and Vote.

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The Motion and Vote above that.

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112.10, 112.17--
<v ->Okay.</v>

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Does everyone know where we're looking at on Page 8.

02:04:40.046 --> 02:04:43.107
Because we're talking about the implementation date.

02:04:43.107 --> 02:04:44.667
That's the motion that's in front of us

02:04:44.667 --> 02:04:47.584
before we get to this other motion.

02:04:49.624 --> 02:04:53.624
<v ->I would move to change the implementation date</v>

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to 2017-2018.

02:04:58.648 --> 02:05:00.510
<v ->Okay, that's it.</v>

02:05:00.510 --> 02:05:02.010
Is there a second?

02:05:03.514 --> 02:05:05.291
Hearing, okay.

02:05:05.291 --> 02:05:08.208
<v ->No second.
<v ->All right, no second.</v>

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Now, we need to go back over to here and correct--

02:05:14.848 --> 02:05:16.681
I'm sorry, Mr. Rowley.

02:05:19.128 --> 02:05:20.235
It's not changed.

02:05:20.235 --> 02:05:22.577
It's still 18 and now we have to go right here

02:05:22.577 --> 02:05:23.410
and fix this.

02:05:23.410 --> 02:05:24.743
Yes, Mr. Rowley.

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Members, if you'll look on your,

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is it on the minutes?

02:05:32.915 --> 02:05:34.785
<v ->Minutes Page 9.
<v ->Oh, Page 9.</v>

02:05:34.785 --> 02:05:37.135
<v ->On the top of Page 9.</v>

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It was left off here.
<v ->Oh, it was left off.</v>

02:05:40.813 --> 02:05:41.881
It should've had the date.

02:05:41.881 --> 02:05:43.144
We didn't have a date up here.

02:05:43.144 --> 02:05:44.755
It should have it.

02:05:44.755 --> 02:05:46.662
So if you're at the top of Page 9,

02:05:46.662 --> 02:05:47.912
it should read,

02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:51.611
it should say at the end,

02:05:51.611 --> 02:05:54.113
as amended it should say, "With an effective date

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"of August 28th, 2017."

02:05:57.305 --> 02:06:00.121
We would amend that, even though it's not there,

02:06:00.121 --> 02:06:01.288
pretend it is.

02:06:02.463 --> 02:06:05.046
Just add it, we'll just add it.

02:06:05.904 --> 02:06:08.321
<v ->August 27, 2018.
<v ->27, 2018.</v>

02:06:10.790 --> 02:06:12.262
Why don't you just make the motion to amend?

02:06:12.262 --> 02:06:14.819
<v ->Okay, I move that we amend the motion</v>

02:06:14.819 --> 02:06:19.624
to add, "with an effective date of August 27, 2018,"

02:06:19.624 --> 02:06:20.676
at the end.

02:06:20.676 --> 02:06:22.744
<v ->Is there a second?</v>

02:06:22.744 --> 02:06:25.661
All those in favor, raise your hand.

02:06:28.031 --> 02:06:30.709
<v ->All those opposed, raise your hand.</v>

02:06:30.709 --> 02:06:31.846
Okay, motion carries.

02:06:31.846 --> 02:06:34.281
Now, we're back to the main motion

02:06:34.281 --> 02:06:38.006
because we've just amended this motion on an effective date.

02:06:38.006 --> 02:06:40.348
It's moved that State Board of Education approve

02:06:40.348 --> 02:06:42.211
for second reading and final adoption

02:06:42.211 --> 02:06:45.458
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 112,

02:06:45.458 --> 02:06:47.884
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science,

02:06:47.884 --> 02:06:51.393
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

02:06:51.393 --> 02:06:54.233
and Subchapter C, High School, with an effective date

02:06:54.233 --> 02:06:55.816
of August 27, 2018.

02:06:56.876 --> 02:06:59.526
All those in favor raise your hand.

02:06:59.526 --> 02:07:00.455
I'm sorry.

02:07:00.455 --> 02:07:01.288
Oh, I didn't know.

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Was there another--

02:07:03.754 --> 02:07:05.805
Well, yeah, you can speak.

02:07:05.805 --> 02:07:08.782
<v ->I just wanted to clarify something.</v>

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This has been a long process but I

02:07:11.971 --> 02:07:13.905
appreciate the board for sticking with us

02:07:13.905 --> 02:07:16.053
on the science because it's very important

02:07:16.053 --> 02:07:17.884
to all of us, I know.

02:07:17.884 --> 02:07:19.775
But there were some reports in the media

02:07:19.775 --> 02:07:23.449
that said Texas no longer required students,

02:07:23.449 --> 02:07:27.207
it said, to challenge scientific theories

02:07:27.207 --> 02:07:28.671
because of the word examine.

02:07:28.671 --> 02:07:32.388
And just for the record, I wanted to clarify that.

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First of all, in 3A, in our standard in Biology

02:07:35.914 --> 02:07:38.112
it says, "Analyze, evaluate, and critique

02:07:38.112 --> 02:07:40.452
"scientific explanations."

02:07:40.452 --> 02:07:42.789
So, that's pretty important right there

02:07:42.789 --> 02:07:44.523
because our student will be looking

02:07:44.523 --> 02:07:47.782
at the scientific evidence for scientific explanations

02:07:47.782 --> 02:07:49.114
or theories.

02:07:49.114 --> 02:07:50.905
Analyzing, evaluating, and critiquing.

02:07:50.905 --> 02:07:52.132
And then the word examine,

02:07:52.132 --> 02:07:55.345
which we used in 6A about the origin of DNA,

02:07:55.345 --> 02:07:57.615
means to inspect something in detail,

02:07:57.615 --> 02:07:59.978
to determine its nature or condition,

02:07:59.978 --> 02:08:04.332
to investigate thoroughly, and synonyms include,

02:08:04.332 --> 02:08:06.652
scrutinize, probe, appraise, analyze,

02:08:06.652 --> 02:08:08.859
review, evaluate, survey.

02:08:08.859 --> 02:08:10.516
I think we kind of cover all the critical

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thinking bases for students.

02:08:12.968 --> 02:08:13.919
I wanted to clarify that

02:08:13.919 --> 02:08:17.086
because there are rumors going around.

02:08:18.396 --> 02:08:21.451
This is how we pull kids in is letting them talk

02:08:21.451 --> 02:08:23.437
about subjects like this

02:08:23.437 --> 02:08:24.645
and we don't have all the answers,

02:08:24.645 --> 02:08:26.456
so why don't you go into the field of science

02:08:26.456 --> 02:08:29.335
so you can help figure some of these answers out.

02:08:29.335 --> 02:08:31.960
And so I just appreciate the board's work on it,

02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:34.691
but I wanted to clarify that to go against

02:08:34.691 --> 02:08:36.402
some of the things I've been reading.

02:08:36.402 --> 02:08:37.649
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

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Any other comments before we take this vote?

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I'm gonna read it one more time

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just because it's been a minute.

02:08:42.858 --> 02:08:44.567
It's moved that State Board of Education

02:08:44.567 --> 02:08:46.700
approve for second reading and final adoption

02:08:46.700 --> 02:08:49.782
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 112,

02:08:49.782 --> 02:08:50.961
Texas Essential Knowledge Skills

02:08:50.961 --> 02:08:52.781
for Science, Subchapter A, Elementary,

02:08:52.781 --> 02:08:55.557
Subchapter B, Middle School, and Subchapter C,

02:08:55.557 --> 02:08:58.741
High School, as amended, with an effective date

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of August 27, 2018.

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All those in favor, raise your hands.

02:09:08.611 --> 02:09:10.361
Was your hand raised?

02:09:12.668 --> 02:09:15.501
All those opposed, raise your hand.

02:09:18.224 --> 02:09:21.474
Okay, motion passes, thank you so much.

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Ayes have it.

02:09:28.504 --> 02:09:30.667
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes?</v>

02:09:30.667 --> 02:09:32.252
Yes, Mr. Bradley?

02:09:32.252 --> 02:09:33.752
<v ->I have a motion.</v>

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If we will go to the minutes from Tuesday, April 18th.

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There was one action item that was considered

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by the board.

02:09:44.494 --> 02:09:45.999
I apologize I was absent.

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I couldn't speak that day, anyway.

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There was a motion, if you will go to Page 4

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of those minutes, that failed.

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But I would like, at this time,

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for the State Board of Education to recommend

02:10:01.294 --> 02:10:04.379
and approve for first reading and filing authorization

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proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 111

02:10:08.194 --> 02:10:11.144
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Mathematics

02:10:11.144 --> 02:10:11.977
Subchap--

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Committee of the Full Board on Tuesday.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Page 4 right at the top of your stack.</v>

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<v ->Item number 3.</v>

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This is the math vote.

02:10:39.140 --> 02:10:39.973
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, I'm sorry,</v>

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could you read your motion again?

02:10:41.387 --> 02:10:43.137
<v ->Is everybody ready?</v>

02:10:45.282 --> 02:10:48.773
I move to approve for first reading and filing authorization

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proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 111,

02:10:53.262 --> 02:10:55.740
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skill for Mathematics

02:10:55.740 --> 02:10:59.496
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

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and Subchapter C, High School.

02:11:03.958 --> 02:11:06.791
Need a second.
<v ->Is there a second?</v>

02:11:09.138 --> 02:11:11.628
<v ->Haven't heard a second.
<v ->Let him speak to the motion.</v>

02:11:11.628 --> 02:11:14.149
<v ->There was a second.
<v ->Oh, there was a second?</v>

02:11:14.149 --> 02:11:16.543
I haven't heard a second.

02:11:16.543 --> 02:11:18.793
Oh, Tom did a second? Okay.

02:11:19.663 --> 02:11:20.996
Yes, Mr. Cortez?

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<v ->So, the motion failed.</v>

02:11:25.446 --> 02:11:28.365
<v ->You have to have a member to reconsider it.</v>

02:11:28.365 --> 02:11:30.436
<v ->The member wasn't here.</v>

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The member bringing it up wasn't here or part of the vote.

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It's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong,

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but only a member of the prevailing side can bring it back.

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<v ->It's not reconsideration.</v>

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The Committee of the Full Board is not a body officially.

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It's not the State Board.

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Let him address that.

02:11:52.441 --> 02:11:54.936
<v ->If this were a Committee of the Full Board meeting,</v>

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then a motion to reconsider would be needed.

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However, the body has posted today to consider this item.

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There is no recommendation coming out

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of the Committee of the Full Board

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to the State Board of Education.

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Because it is posted, a member

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could make a motion relating to that item.

02:12:12.864 --> 02:12:14.947
So it would be in order.

02:12:18.702 --> 02:12:20.836
<v ->Just for clarification, this is the item that dealt</v>

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with the removal of deleting the process standards

02:12:24.426 --> 02:12:27.347
from the math language, correct?

02:12:27.347 --> 02:12:29.177
<v ->I want to make sure that it's very clear.</v>

02:12:29.177 --> 02:12:31.106
We weren't removing the process standards

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with that amendment that was in there.

02:12:32.963 --> 02:12:34.645
It was removing it from the knowledge and skills

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statements.

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They're still in the set of standards.

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<v Mr. Cortez>But this is the item that we're referring to?</v>

02:12:40.885 --> 02:12:42.868
<v ->It's just out of knowledge and skill,</v>

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the reference to them in the knowledge

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and skills statements.

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Just the knowledge and skills statements.

02:12:47.974 --> 02:12:50.890
<v Mr. Cortez>I would rise against the motion.</v>

02:12:50.890 --> 02:12:51.878
<v ->Are you ready?</v>

02:12:51.878 --> 02:12:54.235
<v ->Madam Chair, I don't anticipate any debate</v>

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but I will respectfully ask for a record vote.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Okay, so we can hold up our hands, right?</v>

02:13:02.117 --> 02:13:03.445
Oh, call the roll?

02:13:03.445 --> 02:13:06.528
<v ->The minutes don't reflect the vote.</v>

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<v ->All right, sorry, we'll do call the roll.</v>

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The motion before us is

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to adopt proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 111,

02:13:22.624 --> 02:13:24.750
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Mathematics,

02:13:24.750 --> 02:13:28.052
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

02:13:28.052 --> 02:13:30.414
and subchapter C, high school.

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First reading and filing authorization.

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So, go ahead and call the roll, Renee.

02:13:36.698 --> 02:13:37.865
<v ->Allen?
<v ->Nay.</v>

02:13:40.144 --> 02:13:41.394
<v ->Beltran?
<v ->No.</v>

02:13:42.394 --> 02:13:43.811
<v ->Bradley?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:13:44.799 --> 02:13:46.132
<v ->Cargill?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:13:47.026 --> 02:13:48.276
<v ->Cortez?
<v ->No.</v>

02:13:49.745 --> 02:13:50.828
<v ->Ellis?
<v ->No.</v>

02:13:52.172 --> 02:13:53.255
<v ->Hardy?
<v ->No.</v>

02:13:54.484 --> 02:13:55.817
<v ->Maynard?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:13:56.740 --> 02:13:58.490
<v ->Melton-Malone?
<v ->No.</v>

02:13:59.778 --> 02:14:01.028
<v ->Mercer?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:14:02.872 --> 02:14:04.122
<v ->Miller?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:14:05.868 --> 02:14:06.951
<v ->Perez?
<v ->No.</v>

02:14:08.384 --> 02:14:10.671
<v ->Perez-Diaz?
<v ->No.</v>

02:14:10.671 --> 02:14:11.838
<v ->Rowley?
<v ->No.</v>

02:14:16.038 --> 02:14:19.705
<v ->Five, ten. I'm sorry, five, nine. Bahorich, would you like to vote?</v>

02:14:23.349 --> 02:14:25.555
<v ->It's not close.</v>

02:14:25.555 --> 02:14:28.305
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair, members.</v>

02:14:30.057 --> 02:14:32.375
<v ->Motion was lost, nine to five.</v>

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Okay, next one.

02:14:41.004 --> 02:14:42.837
Mr. Rowley, moving on.

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<v ->I believe we're on</v>

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Page 27, right?

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Of the Wednesday minutes.

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Very top of the page.

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(coughs) Excuse me.

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That says, the board recommends by an affirmative vote

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of 2/3 members, approved for second reading

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and final adoption, proposed revisions to 19 TAC,

02:15:20.706 --> 02:15:23.599
Chapter 110, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:15:23.599 --> 02:15:25.636
for English Language Arts and Reading

02:15:25.636 --> 02:15:30.289
Subchapter A, Elementary, and Subchapter B, Middle School,

02:15:30.289 --> 02:15:34.824
and 19 TAC, Chapter 128, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:15:34.824 --> 02:15:37.529
for Spanish Language Arts and Reading in English

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as a Second Language, Subchapter A, Elementary,

02:15:40.707 --> 02:15:43.633
and Subchapter B, Middle School,

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with an effective date of 20 days after filing

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as adopted with the Texas register as amended.

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<v ->Okay, so, right now we're going to take up amendments</v>

02:15:59.379 --> 02:16:01.942
to it to make sure we've included all the amendments.

02:16:01.942 --> 02:16:04.569
Then we'll a separate discussion that staff

02:16:04.569 --> 02:16:07.486
will address us with some thoughts.

02:16:08.584 --> 02:16:10.084
I think Ms. Perez?

02:16:10.943 --> 02:16:14.070
Are they coming out right now?

02:16:14.070 --> 02:16:18.169
Did anyone other Ms. Perez have some amendments today

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on the Kindergarten through 8?

02:16:26.023 --> 02:16:28.541
<v Ms. Perez>Am I the only one?</v>

02:16:28.541 --> 02:16:30.130
<v ->I think so.</v>

02:16:30.130 --> 02:16:32.380
I think she's the only one.

02:16:35.979 --> 02:16:38.229
She doesn't have that many.

02:16:47.281 --> 02:16:48.914
Yeah, this is a substantial.

02:16:48.914 --> 02:16:52.247
This is the one that we were waiting on.

02:16:58.518 --> 02:17:00.081
How many pages should we have, Gina,

02:17:00.081 --> 02:17:02.184
at the end of this?

02:17:02.184 --> 02:17:03.017
Three?

02:17:19.923 --> 02:17:22.090
<v ->All of mine were posted.</v>

02:17:24.795 --> 02:17:27.250
These two were posted.

02:17:27.250 --> 02:17:30.083
These were cleanup after the post.

02:17:42.437 --> 02:17:45.687
<v ->Is it a change or you found an error?</v>

02:17:48.451 --> 02:17:50.511
<v ->It's gonna come out the same way</v>

02:17:50.511 --> 02:17:52.594
regardless of what it is.

02:18:00.263 --> 02:18:03.141
<v ->Members, I would like for us,</v>

02:18:03.141 --> 02:18:04.853
just to cover all bases,

02:18:04.853 --> 02:18:08.909
to go ahead and do a 2/3 vote to consider everything.

02:18:08.909 --> 02:18:10.686
So, I won't have to ask that each time

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you want to bring an amendment.

02:18:12.681 --> 02:18:14.646
If the board is especially tolerant,

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they're gonna let that happen.

02:18:16.567 --> 02:18:20.160
So, consideration of these amendments.

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All those in favor of letting

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Ms. Perez bring forward all of these amendments

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say, "Aye."

02:18:28.852 --> 02:18:29.685
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

02:18:29.685 --> 02:18:31.346
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

02:18:31.346 --> 02:18:34.115
Okay, hearing none, so we've got it.

02:18:34.115 --> 02:18:36.399
<v ->Thank you so much for your tolerance.</v>

02:18:36.399 --> 02:18:38.628
I'm not a big fan of the word tolerance.

02:18:38.628 --> 02:18:39.834
I prefer, you know, respect.

02:18:39.834 --> 02:18:41.523
I don't think anybody likes to be tolerated.

02:18:41.523 --> 02:18:44.684
But thank you for your tolerance, nonetheless.

02:18:44.684 --> 02:18:46.138
<v Bahorich>(laughing) Oh, that was great.</v>

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Okay, which one first?

02:18:48.222 --> 02:18:50.167
<v ->The first document we're going to be looking at</v>

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is English Language Arts and Reading TEKS K8, Friday 21.

02:18:55.712 --> 02:18:59.879
It is the one where we strike through the word "more."

02:19:03.503 --> 02:19:06.963
<v ->Yeah, that is a staff cleanup there, actually.</v>

02:19:06.963 --> 02:19:08.983
We already voted to remove,

02:19:08.983 --> 02:19:11.650
if you will look at the one page

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it's got red on it.

02:19:16.748 --> 02:19:20.151
It says "strike through 'more'" on it.

02:19:20.151 --> 02:19:23.857
The intent and the vote was to have this only say

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spelling homophones, nothing else.

02:19:26.790 --> 02:19:28.473
<v Ms. Perez>We were talking about</v>

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we would like you to know the word

02:19:30.304 --> 02:19:32.554
to help you spell the word.

02:19:33.551 --> 02:19:35.641
<v ->Is there any objection to fixing that?</v>

02:19:35.641 --> 02:19:36.786
Okay, no objection.

02:19:36.786 --> 02:19:37.892
Okay, done.

02:19:37.892 --> 02:19:39.874
<v ->Okay, document number two looks like</v>

02:19:39.874 --> 02:19:43.041
grades 6, 7, 8, English 1, 2, 3, and 4.

02:19:43.978 --> 02:19:46.496
It was the assistance that I received yesterday

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from Member Rowley with the placement

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of "its, it's, there, their, they're,

02:19:52.979 --> 02:19:54.396
"to, too, and two."

02:19:58.257 --> 02:20:01.705
<v ->They want to include to correct the spelling</v>

02:20:01.705 --> 02:20:03.455
but to, specifically,

02:20:05.096 --> 02:20:06.349
call out "its, it's,

02:20:06.349 --> 02:20:10.198
"effect, affect, there, their, they're, to, too, and two."

02:20:10.198 --> 02:20:13.173
Does everybody see that page?

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This is Grade 6 through English 4, correct?

02:20:16.088 --> 02:20:18.175
<v Ms. Perez>Yes, ma'am.</v>

02:20:18.175 --> 02:20:20.153
<v ->Okay.
<v ->Thank you.</v>

02:20:20.153 --> 02:20:23.349
<v ->If there's no objection, any objection?</v>

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<v ->So our last document.</v>

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I'm gonna read these individually.

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It is the Spanish Language Arts and Reading TEKS,

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Strand 4,

02:20:35.020 --> 02:20:36.157
Grade 8,

02:20:36.157 --> 02:20:37.407
Chapter 128.23,

02:20:39.340 --> 02:20:41.340
Number 9, Letter B.

02:20:41.340 --> 02:20:43.221
I would like to strike the entire statement,

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"Identify structural elements such as rhyme,

02:20:44.911 --> 02:20:46.095
"repetition, and alliteration,

02:20:46.095 --> 02:20:48.009
"and analyze how language contributes

02:20:48.009 --> 02:20:50.693
"to the meaning of a poem," because there are two essays

02:20:50.693 --> 02:20:52.800
for Grade 8 Spanish Poetry when all other

02:20:52.800 --> 02:20:56.343
grade levels in Spanish have only one.

02:20:56.343 --> 02:21:00.426
This would eliminate the repetition and eliminate

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the extra TEKS in one language

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versus the fewer TEKS in another.

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I'd like one.
<v ->Second.</v>

02:21:13.664 --> 02:21:14.504
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Would you like to speak to that</v>

02:21:14.504 --> 02:21:15.754
or you're good?

02:21:16.667 --> 02:21:19.588
<v ->That was the short and sweet reason for it.</v>

02:21:19.588 --> 02:21:22.201
<v Mr. Cortez>This is the recommendation of that group of--</v>

02:21:22.201 --> 02:21:23.756
<v ->Yes, we did not sleep last night.</v>

02:21:23.756 --> 02:21:25.363
Everybody was on the phone together

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just going through what had been

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so kindly posted by staff because they,

02:21:31.192 --> 02:21:33.859
apparently, didn't sleep either.

02:21:35.283 --> 02:21:37.101
<v ->This is just in the Spanish?</v>

02:21:37.101 --> 02:21:39.173
<v Ms. Perez>Yes, this is just in the Spanish.</v>

02:21:39.173 --> 02:21:41.256
<v ->Any objection to the first one?</v>

02:21:41.256 --> 02:21:42.333
Okay, no objection.

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<v ->The second one is Grade 8, Chapter 128.23, Number 9.</v>

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Scratch the letter C, making it B,

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"Analyze the effect of graphical elements

02:21:51.555 --> 02:21:53.673
"such as punctuation and line length in poems

02:21:53.673 --> 02:21:55.159
"across a variety of poetic forms

02:21:55.159 --> 02:21:57.738
"such as epic, lyric, and humorous poetry."

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This is the same as English, see the rationale above.

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It would change the letters in Grade 8

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for the rest of Strand 4.

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Thank you.

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<v Ms. Martinez>Anything that addresses numbering</v>

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is technical and we will take care of.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>We don't even need to vote on that</v>

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'cause they'll fix that.

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<v ->The next one is Grade 7, Chapter 128.22,</v>

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Number 9, Letter E.

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Scratch the entire thing.

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The rationale is this is an additional S.E. (Student Expectation)

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for informational tech that is not addressed in English

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and is a duplicate of 9D, Romanette 3

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Thank you.

02:22:30.602 --> 02:22:31.572
<v ->Any objection?</v>

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Okay.

02:22:32.424 --> 02:22:34.966
<v ->Grade 8, chapter 128.23, Number 9, Letter F.</v>

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Scratch the entire thing.

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<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

02:22:38.497 --> 02:22:41.181
<v ->I'm sorry, I feel the need to make sure</v>

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that we share this information with you.

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Grade 7 and 8 are two brand new courses.

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They're for English Language Acquisition.

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They're sort of the equivalent of your ESOL courses.

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The committee that developed the courses

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did add additional student expectations

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because they felt that there were, in some instances,

02:22:58.858 --> 02:23:01.715
the need to provide additional language supports

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to students, to English language learners.

02:23:04.245 --> 02:23:08.149
That's the reason why on 9E, for example,

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there's an addition that's in

02:23:10.580 --> 02:23:12.454
what they refer to as the ELA course,

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the 7th Grade English Language Acquisition course,

02:23:14.868 --> 02:23:16.737
that's not in English because

02:23:16.737 --> 02:23:19.652
they felt that they were necessary to help students

02:23:19.652 --> 02:23:23.297
who are acquiring English be successful.

02:23:23.297 --> 02:23:25.658
<v ->Is it a duplicate in another place</v>

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in the strand in the 7th and 8th?

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>'Cause that was the other note.</v>

02:23:30.195 --> 02:23:32.035
<v ->It's duplicative of that?</v>

02:23:32.035 --> 02:23:33.917
<v ->Right, that's the question.</v>

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Has it already been included in one place

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and this is a duplicate?

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Let's look for that.</v>

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<v ->Anything that is potentially a duplicate,</v>

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that's why we'd like the additional time.

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So, that we can make sure that you don't have anything

02:23:50.263 --> 02:23:53.763
that is duplicative within a given course.

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We can definitely check these.

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<v ->So this particular student expectation isn't duplicative</v>

02:24:07.636 --> 02:24:10.017
but there are other student expectations

02:24:10.017 --> 02:24:13.100
that focus on organizational patterns.

02:24:14.811 --> 02:24:16.608
<v ->The only thing that I'm trying to address</v>

02:24:16.608 --> 02:24:18.108
is the duplicativeness

02:24:19.759 --> 02:24:23.029
of a standard that may be here and there.

02:24:23.029 --> 02:24:26.626
Being additional for additional support is not an issue.

02:24:26.626 --> 02:24:29.272
It's just the standard being asked

02:24:29.272 --> 02:24:32.461
to be taught twice or three times.

02:24:32.461 --> 02:24:35.283
<v ->The way that the two student expectations are worded,</v>

02:24:35.283 --> 02:24:36.774
and we just looked at them,

02:24:36.774 --> 02:24:40.100
it's not the exact same content,

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it's a different aspect of organizational patterns.

02:24:42.843 --> 02:24:44.380
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So we just skip it?</v>

02:24:44.380 --> 02:24:45.539
<v ->I'm not gonna ask that we skip it.</v>

02:24:45.539 --> 02:24:47.229
I'm gonna ask that staff look at it

02:24:47.229 --> 02:24:48.646
just for clarity.

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So, which one is that, Shelly?

02:24:53.457 --> 02:24:56.540
Is that the one, the Grade 8, 128.23?

02:24:58.145 --> 02:24:59.895
<v ->Both of them.
<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v ->Both the 7, 9E, and Grade 8, 9F.</v>

02:25:10.437 --> 02:25:15.279
<v ->The question before us is if it's duplicative,</v>

02:25:15.279 --> 02:25:18.562
you're saying that you would want it eliminated.

02:25:18.562 --> 02:25:20.992
If it is not duplicative, you want it kept?

02:25:20.992 --> 02:25:22.844
<v Ms. Perez>Right.</v>

02:25:22.844 --> 02:25:25.150
<v ->Okay, so, this was a technical cleanup.</v>

02:25:25.150 --> 02:25:26.445
Is any objection to that?

02:25:26.445 --> 02:25:28.300
<v ->It's a potential technical cleanup.</v>

02:25:28.300 --> 02:25:30.806
<v ->Okay, all right, hearing none.</v>

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Both for Grade 7 and 8.

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Now we're at the bottom on Grade 7.

02:25:35.919 --> 02:25:39.788
<v ->Grade 7, Chapter 128.22, Number 9, Letter F,</v>

02:25:39.788 --> 02:25:43.556
Romanette 2, analyzing the evidence presented.

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I'm asking to scratch that.

02:25:45.265 --> 02:25:48.532
The rationale for this is it's an additional S.E.

02:25:48.532 --> 02:25:52.626
for informational text that is not addressed in English.

02:25:52.626 --> 02:25:56.115
Would that be the same reasoning again, Shelly?

02:25:56.115 --> 02:25:58.198
Or do you have to verify?

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<v ->It's a little bit off, in terms of alignment.</v>

02:26:04.530 --> 02:26:07.639
We really wouldn't probably have a concern

02:26:07.639 --> 02:26:09.139
about deleting it.

02:26:10.368 --> 02:26:13.885
It might be that we could better align

02:26:13.885 --> 02:26:15.803
some student expectations.

02:26:15.803 --> 02:26:18.574
<v ->That would be a number change or a romanette change</v>

02:26:18.574 --> 02:26:19.407
but not...

02:26:21.775 --> 02:26:26.658
<v ->I think it's actually a matter of, perhaps, combining</v>

02:26:26.658 --> 02:26:28.991
two romanettes in this case.

02:26:32.977 --> 02:26:34.380
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So, is there any objection</v>

02:26:34.380 --> 02:26:36.275
to letting staff figure out what the best way

02:26:36.275 --> 02:26:39.025
to handle that particular one is?

02:26:40.223 --> 02:26:41.390
Any objection?

02:26:42.240 --> 02:26:43.823
Okay, no objection.

02:26:45.195 --> 02:26:46.945
<v ->The next on Page 3.</v>

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These are corrections to already approved amendments.

02:26:53.188 --> 02:26:54.992
Do you want me to read each one of them?

02:26:54.992 --> 02:26:56.696
Or is this a technical cleanup by staff

02:26:56.696 --> 02:26:57.916
that they can just?

02:26:57.916 --> 02:26:59.044
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Appropriate number and letter,</v>

02:26:59.044 --> 02:27:00.383
they'll fix that.

02:27:00.383 --> 02:27:01.950
<v ->This one we'll fix.</v>

02:27:01.950 --> 02:27:05.016
It looks like we may have missed adding to--

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<v Ms. Perez>Right, because we went so quickly</v>

02:27:06.978 --> 02:27:10.040
in looking at 110 and 128 at the same time.

02:27:10.040 --> 02:27:11.845
We just need time to make sure

02:27:11.845 --> 02:27:15.762
that we're aligned, that we're not duplicating.

02:27:17.443 --> 02:27:21.626
I'm hoping that that's all just technical cleanup.

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>So that's the first one?</v>

02:27:23.104 --> 02:27:25.431
<v ->That's the entire second page, front and back.</v>

02:27:25.431 --> 02:27:26.661
<v Mrs. Bahorich>Oh, front and back.</v>

02:27:26.661 --> 02:27:30.142
Okay, so that's more technical cleanups.

02:27:30.142 --> 02:27:32.245
<v ->The first one is definitely technical.</v>

02:27:32.245 --> 02:27:35.162
I think the other four on that page

02:27:38.442 --> 02:27:41.342
are applying the same change to Chapter 128.

02:27:41.342 --> 02:27:43.597
We tried to do that everywhere.

02:27:43.597 --> 02:27:46.419
I think just to make sure that we're clear

02:27:46.419 --> 02:27:47.549
would be helpful.

02:27:47.549 --> 02:27:49.201
Just to make sure there's not an objection

02:27:49.201 --> 02:27:50.534
to us adding 128

02:27:52.145 --> 02:27:53.222
to those four.

02:27:53.222 --> 02:27:54.089
<v Mrs. Bahorich>So let's just take a vote to make sure</v>

02:27:54.089 --> 02:27:56.002
there's no objection to adding these

02:27:56.002 --> 02:27:59.520
that were voted in to Chapter 128.

02:27:59.520 --> 02:28:01.549
<v ->So, shall I read them one by one?</v>

02:28:01.549 --> 02:28:03.982
<v Mrs. Bahorich>No, I don't think we need to do that.</v>

02:28:03.982 --> 02:28:07.201
This was just making sure it gets added.

02:28:07.201 --> 02:28:09.023
Any objection to going ahead and adding

02:28:09.023 --> 02:28:12.766
as you can see in red here to Chapter 128.

02:28:12.766 --> 02:28:14.674
Just those four.

02:28:14.674 --> 02:28:16.257
Okay, no objection.

02:28:17.702 --> 02:28:18.535
Last page.

02:28:23.144 --> 02:28:25.365
<v Ms. Martinez>The top of that page, the technical edit,</v>

02:28:25.365 --> 02:28:27.032
we can take care of.

02:28:28.199 --> 02:28:31.699
<v Mrs. Bahorich >How 'bout the next one?</v>

02:28:32.963 --> 02:28:36.546
<v ->For the consonant blends or the spelling?</v>

02:28:37.620 --> 02:28:38.765
Which one are you looking at.

02:28:38.765 --> 02:28:41.848
<v ->Okay, so the first one, we're good.</v>

02:28:43.866 --> 02:28:44.818
<v Ms. Perez>Are you looking at the request</v>

02:28:44.818 --> 02:28:46.568
for consonant blends?

02:28:48.746 --> 02:28:50.497
<v ->Yeah.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:28:50.497 --> 02:28:53.261
'Cause it's two different things, right?

02:28:53.261 --> 02:28:55.407
'Cause one is a spelling and then one is

02:28:55.407 --> 02:28:57.821
we need to remove consonant blends

02:28:57.821 --> 02:29:01.988
and replace it with (speaks spanish).

02:29:03.435 --> 02:29:04.408
So, they're two separate things.

02:29:04.408 --> 02:29:08.575
We're okay with both of those as a technical edit?

02:29:10.195 --> 02:29:11.695
The third one is change "decoding."

02:29:11.695 --> 02:29:12.818
It should be "spelling."

02:29:12.818 --> 02:29:14.555
Everything under Letter C refers to spelling

02:29:14.555 --> 02:29:16.588
in Grade 1, the same in Grade 2.

02:29:16.588 --> 02:29:19.824
<v ->That was actually an issue that we were gonna raise.</v>

02:29:19.824 --> 02:29:22.069
We saw that last night and we thought

02:29:22.069 --> 02:29:24.028
that that was the case.

02:29:24.028 --> 02:29:26.681
Yeah, we'll make sure that we've got decoding

02:29:26.681 --> 02:29:29.226
where it's appropriate and spelling where it's appropriate.

02:29:29.226 --> 02:29:31.243
<v ->Any objection to that?</v>

02:29:31.243 --> 02:29:33.528
Okay, don't hear any objections.

02:29:33.528 --> 02:29:34.860
And that's it?
<v ->That's it.</v>

02:29:34.860 --> 02:29:37.429
<v ->Anybody else have any objections.</v>

02:29:37.429 --> 02:29:40.027
Okay, now, we'd like to hear from staff.

02:29:40.027 --> 02:29:42.909
I mean any amendments, not objections.

02:29:42.909 --> 02:29:44.538
Any amendments?

02:29:44.538 --> 02:29:47.170
<v ->I think this is a very good example</v>

02:29:47.170 --> 02:29:50.587
of the challenge that we have with making

02:29:52.019 --> 02:29:55.591
this many changes in a very short period of time.

02:29:55.591 --> 02:29:59.758
We did work to capture all of the amendments for you

02:30:00.928 --> 02:30:02.595
but we were not able

02:30:03.736 --> 02:30:06.403
to finish updating the rule text

02:30:08.017 --> 02:30:09.710
so that you could take a look at that

02:30:09.710 --> 02:30:12.325
before taking a final vote.

02:30:12.325 --> 02:30:15.845
Given the amount of time and energy

02:30:15.845 --> 02:30:19.394
that has gone into this process thus far,

02:30:19.394 --> 02:30:22.010
we would appreciate an opportunity

02:30:22.010 --> 02:30:26.593
to go in and make all the changes to the rule text,

02:30:26.593 --> 02:30:29.304
send that out so that you have an opportunity

02:30:29.304 --> 02:30:33.193
to review it, make sure that we've got everything

02:30:33.193 --> 02:30:36.679
appropriately aligned between Chapter 110

02:30:36.679 --> 02:30:38.012
and Chapter 128.

02:30:39.748 --> 02:30:42.776
It would be our recommendation that you consider

02:30:42.776 --> 02:30:46.776
not taking a final vote on these standards today

02:30:48.803 --> 02:30:51.387
and giving us a chance to give you

02:30:51.387 --> 02:30:54.156
the actual rule text that you could review

02:30:54.156 --> 02:30:58.284
and then go back in and make a change later.

02:30:58.284 --> 02:30:59.973
We're thinking that this would really be

02:30:59.973 --> 02:31:01.524
just to make sure that we've made all

02:31:01.524 --> 02:31:04.895
of the correct technical edits.

02:31:04.895 --> 02:31:06.712
If there happens to be anything that would

02:31:06.712 --> 02:31:08.994
be considered more substantive,

02:31:08.994 --> 02:31:10.525
that would require your approval,

02:31:10.525 --> 02:31:12.490
there's an opportunity to get your approval

02:31:12.490 --> 02:31:15.157
before you take that final vote.

02:31:16.332 --> 02:31:19.859
<v ->Members, you know, staff does not have a comfort level</v>

02:31:19.859 --> 02:31:21.893
that we've caught everything exactly right

02:31:21.893 --> 02:31:24.881
and they'd like some time.

02:31:24.881 --> 02:31:25.786
You know, if they're not comfortable,

02:31:25.786 --> 02:31:27.752
we're not comfortable either.

02:31:27.752 --> 02:31:29.398
We want to make sure that we're comfortable

02:31:29.398 --> 02:31:31.648
with how that's gonna work.

02:31:32.650 --> 02:31:37.416
I believe you've also got something to hand out.

02:31:37.416 --> 02:31:41.015
We need you to initial who can be--

02:31:41.015 --> 02:31:43.216
<v Mr. Overbey>Don't we want to make this motion first?</v>

02:31:43.216 --> 02:31:45.346
<v ->Yeah, we'll make a motion but I just want to make sure</v>

02:31:45.346 --> 02:31:48.294
that you're starting to look at this page

02:31:48.294 --> 02:31:49.127
as she's handing it out.

02:31:49.127 --> 02:31:50.650
<v Ms. Martinez>Madam Chair, I think you've got a question.</v>

02:31:50.650 --> 02:31:53.067
<v ->Oh, I'm sorry, Ms. Beltran.</v>

02:31:53.990 --> 02:31:57.240
<v ->This is a question for clarification.</v>

02:31:58.924 --> 02:32:00.353
I also think it's important just to make clear

02:32:00.353 --> 02:32:01.652
to anyone who's watching.

02:32:01.652 --> 02:32:05.355
This is not an opportunity for more submissions

02:32:05.355 --> 02:32:07.032
from the public.
<v ->We're gonna address that.</v>

02:32:07.032 --> 02:32:10.341
<v ->Okay, we're gonna make that--</v>

02:32:10.341 --> 02:32:14.482
<v ->Our thought is it's strictly to give us a few days</v>

02:32:14.482 --> 02:32:15.925
to get everything.

02:32:15.925 --> 02:32:19.668
The problem is, I think the concern is that you would

02:32:19.668 --> 02:32:22.715
be voting on something that you haven't had a chance to see,

02:32:22.715 --> 02:32:26.487
so this is not in any way considered

02:32:26.487 --> 02:32:28.146
to be an opportunity for folks

02:32:28.146 --> 02:32:31.479
to try and get you to make more changes.

02:32:32.322 --> 02:32:34.552
It's really just to make sure that you all

02:32:34.552 --> 02:32:38.273
have an opportunity to see what you would be voting on.

02:32:38.273 --> 02:32:39.312
<v ->That's helpful, thank you.</v>

02:32:39.312 --> 02:32:42.258
I don't mean to imply that public input is not important.

02:32:42.258 --> 02:32:43.091
Because it is.

02:32:43.091 --> 02:32:46.386
It's just that we've had a lot of it.

02:32:46.386 --> 02:32:48.153
Just wanted to make sure that was clear

02:32:48.153 --> 02:32:50.281
to anyone who's listening as well.

02:32:50.281 --> 02:32:51.590
Thanks.

02:32:51.590 --> 02:32:54.073
<v ->I think that's a really good point.</v>

02:32:54.073 --> 02:32:55.710
If there's anything we've done in this process,

02:32:55.710 --> 02:32:57.258
we've tried to be as responsive as we can

02:32:57.258 --> 02:32:59.583
to the amount of input that we've gotten,

02:32:59.583 --> 02:33:00.916
and because of that,

02:33:02.380 --> 02:33:04.345
it's caused us to work quite a bit,

02:33:04.345 --> 02:33:05.619
and that's made it hard on staff

02:33:05.619 --> 02:33:07.768
'cause we had both Science and English.

02:33:07.768 --> 02:33:09.630
You know, note to self, big reading,

02:33:09.630 --> 02:33:11.825
second readings on two major subjects

02:33:11.825 --> 02:33:14.179
is a little difficult to do

02:33:14.179 --> 02:33:15.179
in one week.

02:33:16.984 --> 02:33:18.520
And Spanish, exactly.

02:33:18.520 --> 02:33:20.944
Spanish Language Arts and Reading.

02:33:20.944 --> 02:33:24.111
So, Mr. Rowley has a motion before us.

02:33:26.015 --> 02:33:28.570
He's going to have a motion.

02:33:28.570 --> 02:33:31.922
<v ->I move, in light of the discussion we just had,</v>

02:33:31.922 --> 02:33:35.366
that the board postpone consideration of this item,

02:33:35.366 --> 02:33:37.283
which is second reading

02:33:38.867 --> 02:33:41.898
for English Language Arts, Elementary,

02:33:41.898 --> 02:33:44.032
Middle School, Spanish Language Arts,

02:33:44.032 --> 02:33:46.365
Elementary and Middle School

02:33:47.252 --> 02:33:49.925
to a special meeting to be called by the chair

02:33:49.925 --> 02:33:53.464
or to the regularly scheduled June meeting.

02:33:53.464 --> 02:33:54.642
This postponement does not extend

02:33:54.642 --> 02:33:55.779
the public comment period

02:33:55.779 --> 02:33:59.890
under the Administrative Procedures Act.

02:33:59.890 --> 02:34:01.942
<v ->Is there a second?</v>

02:34:01.942 --> 02:34:03.490
<v ->Second.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:34:03.490 --> 02:34:06.414
Members, it is not my intent to go into the June meeting.

02:34:06.414 --> 02:34:10.081
It's our intent, if we can get eight people.

02:34:12.747 --> 02:34:15.856
In order for this to work to do,

02:34:15.856 --> 02:34:17.935
where some of us are together

02:34:17.935 --> 02:34:21.102
and then others can tune in virtually,

02:34:21.942 --> 02:34:23.997
we have to have a quorum of folks

02:34:23.997 --> 02:34:26.193
in one physical location.

02:34:26.193 --> 02:34:29.296
So, in handing out this paper,

02:34:29.296 --> 02:34:32.215
we're trying to put it around the charter interviews

02:34:32.215 --> 02:34:33.775
'cause we know some of you are already planning

02:34:33.775 --> 02:34:35.913
on coming in anyway.

02:34:35.913 --> 02:34:38.000
So that would be a natural time for us to try

02:34:38.000 --> 02:34:40.322
to get a quorum of folks together here in Austin,

02:34:40.322 --> 02:34:41.799
so we could carry this vote out

02:34:41.799 --> 02:34:44.934
and connect the others virtually and go ahead

02:34:44.934 --> 02:34:46.108
and finish second reading.

02:34:46.108 --> 02:34:48.938
Because I think waiting 'til June is too long

02:34:48.938 --> 02:34:49.771
for us to wait.

02:34:49.771 --> 02:34:51.854
We need to get this done.

02:34:52.900 --> 02:34:54.032
If you can at all make it,

02:34:54.032 --> 02:34:56.630
if you will put your initials beside your name,

02:34:56.630 --> 02:35:01.481
there are two options for time on each of the three days.

02:35:01.481 --> 02:35:04.763
On May 9th, May 10th, and May 11th,

02:35:04.763 --> 02:35:09.301
we have an option for an eight o'clock meeting.

02:35:09.301 --> 02:35:10.624
The charter interviews start at nine.

02:35:10.624 --> 02:35:13.102
We thought we'd convene at eight o'clock

02:35:13.102 --> 02:35:15.836
to go ahead and have this discussion

02:35:15.836 --> 02:35:17.802
and try to get it done between eight and nine

02:35:17.802 --> 02:35:19.236
which I think is very feasible

02:35:19.236 --> 02:35:23.236
since we're talking about the technical cleanup.

02:35:24.744 --> 02:35:27.549
The other option is to have a 3 P.M. meeting.

02:35:27.549 --> 02:35:29.382
If you can make either

02:35:30.253 --> 02:35:31.734
or both,

02:35:31.734 --> 02:35:35.152
please put your initials at the top and the bottom

02:35:35.152 --> 02:35:37.200
of any of the days that you can make it

02:35:37.200 --> 02:35:38.867
of these three days.

02:35:40.391 --> 02:35:41.709
Just so we know who's gonna be here

02:35:41.709 --> 02:35:43.715
'cause we're gonna be counting on you to be here.

02:35:43.715 --> 02:35:45.803
We have to have eight or we can't have this vote.

02:35:45.803 --> 02:35:48.521
We have to have, physically, have eight people here

02:35:48.521 --> 02:35:49.354
in Austin.

02:35:51.706 --> 02:35:55.123
Yeah, put your initials on there, please.

02:35:56.165 --> 02:35:57.409
Actually, that's true.

02:35:57.409 --> 02:36:01.164
You could circle the time that'll work for you

02:36:01.164 --> 02:36:02.093
and put you initials up here

02:36:02.093 --> 02:36:04.676
and then we'll have your sheet.

02:36:06.281 --> 02:36:07.382
You have to do two times,

02:36:07.382 --> 02:36:10.795
so tell us whether you can do both eight and three

02:36:10.795 --> 02:36:12.898
or either or, or how that's gonna work.

02:36:12.898 --> 02:36:14.166
Yes, Ms. Perez-Diaz?

02:36:14.166 --> 02:36:16.890
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

02:36:16.890 --> 02:36:18.759
I may have missed the conversation

02:36:18.759 --> 02:36:21.560
but is this gonna have any impact on adoption cycles

02:36:21.560 --> 02:36:24.162
for instructional materials?

02:36:24.162 --> 02:36:26.925
<v ->We don't anticipate that it will.</v>

02:36:26.925 --> 02:36:30.199
So, you, I hope, in the next few minutes,

02:36:30.199 --> 02:36:33.449
will be adopting the proclamation 2019.

02:36:34.349 --> 02:36:36.890
What we will do is make the Essential Knowledge

02:36:36.890 --> 02:36:41.057
and Skills available as soon as you have adopted them.

02:36:42.108 --> 02:36:44.550
We are, right now, in a position

02:36:44.550 --> 02:36:47.967
where this is for implementation in 2019.

02:36:49.719 --> 02:36:52.475
We do have some time so we don't think there will

02:36:52.475 --> 02:36:56.403
be any negative impact on potential instructional materials.

02:36:56.403 --> 02:36:58.211
<v ->But we didn't want to wait as late as June.</v>

02:36:58.211 --> 02:36:59.585
We want to get this done as soon

02:36:59.585 --> 02:37:00.845
as we could get it done.

02:37:00.845 --> 02:37:02.090
That seemed to be the most logical,

02:37:02.090 --> 02:37:02.961
doing it in May.

02:37:02.961 --> 02:37:04.618
Thank you, Dr. Ellis for suggesting that,

02:37:04.618 --> 02:37:08.201
'cause that was immediately obvious to you.

02:37:09.371 --> 02:37:12.001
Okay, does everybody got their papers?

02:37:12.001 --> 02:37:13.729
Let's make sure it's real clear

02:37:13.729 --> 02:37:18.126
if you can do eight or three or both on these three days.

02:37:18.126 --> 02:37:22.293
We need to make sure we got an eight-person capability.

02:37:37.476 --> 02:37:39.485
<v Woman>For this, you just need to be here one day?</v>

02:37:39.485 --> 02:37:40.857
You don't need to be here all three days, right?

02:37:40.857 --> 02:37:43.591
<v ->Yeah, that's exactly right.</v>

02:37:43.591 --> 02:37:45.396
Yeah, just which days you can make it,

02:37:45.396 --> 02:37:47.540
whichever days you can make it.

02:37:47.540 --> 02:37:49.207
Of these three days.

02:37:50.839 --> 02:37:52.869
We need to know which of the three days you can make it.

02:37:52.869 --> 02:37:55.032
If you can make it any of the three, great.

02:37:55.032 --> 02:37:56.539
If you could only make it one of the three,

02:37:56.539 --> 02:37:58.663
is everybody clear on that?

02:37:58.663 --> 02:38:00.056
Like, I can't be here the 9th,

02:38:00.056 --> 02:38:03.389
but I can be here the 10th and the 11th.

02:38:05.360 --> 02:38:06.224
You're not gonna be here?

02:38:06.224 --> 02:38:09.891
I was thinking you were coming in, possibly.

02:38:12.636 --> 02:38:13.818
For the 9th?

02:38:13.818 --> 02:38:15.255
You could be here on the 9th?

02:38:15.255 --> 02:38:16.088
Okay.

02:38:32.328 --> 02:38:33.328
That's true.

02:38:46.548 --> 02:38:49.798
I can do anything on the 10th and 11th.

02:38:51.508 --> 02:38:53.270
It would probably make our minds at ease

02:38:53.270 --> 02:38:56.358
if we knew we had enough for a particular day.

02:38:56.358 --> 02:39:00.396
I don't know how quickly you can assemble that.

02:39:00.396 --> 02:39:02.146
Yeah, let's go ahead.

02:39:04.220 --> 02:39:06.549
The motion on the floor is to move

02:39:06.549 --> 02:39:08.018
that the State Board of Education postpone

02:39:08.018 --> 02:39:11.127
consideration of this item, Item Number 5,

02:39:11.127 --> 02:39:15.260
proposed revisions to 19 TAC, Chapter 110,

02:39:15.260 --> 02:39:16.499
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:39:16.499 --> 02:39:18.753
for English Language Arts and Reading,

02:39:18.753 --> 02:39:21.271
Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School,

02:39:21.271 --> 02:39:25.996
and 19 TAC, Chapter 128, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:39:25.996 --> 02:39:27.767
for Spanish Language Arts and Reading

02:39:27.767 --> 02:39:29.107
and English as a Second Language,

02:39:29.107 --> 02:39:32.051
Subchapter A, Elementary, and Subchapter B, Middle School,

02:39:32.051 --> 02:39:34.718
for second reading and final adoption

02:39:34.718 --> 02:39:38.061
to a special meeting to be called by the chair

02:39:38.061 --> 02:39:41.254
or to the regularly scheduled June meeting.

02:39:41.254 --> 02:39:44.065
This postponement does not extend the public comment period

02:39:44.065 --> 02:39:46.409
under the Administrative Procedure Act.

02:39:46.409 --> 02:39:50.419
All those in favor, are you sure, raise your hands?

02:39:50.419 --> 02:39:53.669
Oh, all those in favor raise your hand.

02:39:56.361 --> 02:39:58.978
All opposed, raise your hand.

02:39:58.978 --> 02:39:59.811
Okay.

02:40:00.977 --> 02:40:05.680
All right, members, I'm aiming for that May 9th,

02:40:05.680 --> 02:40:09.040
10th or 11th just for those listening in.

02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:09.899
Thank you.

02:40:09.899 --> 02:40:13.816
<v ->Okay, Page 38 of your minutes from Wednesday.</v>

02:40:14.685 --> 02:40:16.018
Top of the Page.

02:40:17.007 --> 02:40:21.139
Page 38, Wednesday minutes, top of the page.

02:40:21.139 --> 02:40:23.722
Board recommends for proof on the first reading

02:40:23.722 --> 02:40:26.231
and filing authorization propose revisions

02:40:26.231 --> 02:40:29.779
to 19 TAC, Chapter 110, Texas Essential Knowledge

02:40:29.779 --> 02:40:32.488
and Skills for English Language Arts and Reading,

02:40:32.488 --> 02:40:36.263
Subchapter C, High School, and Chapter 128,

02:40:36.263 --> 02:40:37.673
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:40:37.673 --> 02:40:39.860
for Spanish Language Arts and Reading,

02:40:39.860 --> 02:40:44.027
and English as a Second Language, Subchapter C, High School.

02:40:46.075 --> 02:40:48.576
<v ->All right, it's moved that State Board of Education</v>

02:40:48.576 --> 02:40:50.583
approve for first reading and filing authorization,

02:40:50.583 --> 02:40:53.335
proposed revisions to 19 TAC, Chapter 110,

02:40:53.335 --> 02:40:55.029
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills,

02:40:55.029 --> 02:40:56.743
for English Language Arts and Reading,

02:40:56.743 --> 02:41:00.191
Subchapter C, High School, and 19 TAC, Chapter 128,

02:41:00.191 --> 02:41:02.582
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:41:02.582 --> 02:41:04.029
for Spanish Language Arts and Reading

02:41:04.029 --> 02:41:05.311
and English as a Second Language,

02:41:05.311 --> 02:41:07.089
Subchapter C, High School.

02:41:07.089 --> 02:41:08.763
Are you ready for the question?

02:41:08.763 --> 02:41:10.432
All those in favor say, "Aye."

02:41:10.432 --> 02:41:11.274
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

02:41:11.274 --> 02:41:13.280
<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

02:41:13.280 --> 02:41:14.530
Motion carries.

02:41:16.461 --> 02:41:18.284
<v ->Next item is</v>

02:41:18.284 --> 02:41:19.534
Page 38, Item 5,

02:41:20.520 --> 02:41:24.187
immediately below the one we just addressed.

02:41:26.135 --> 02:41:29.535
The board recommends that the we approve

02:41:29.535 --> 02:41:33.094
Proclamation 2019 of the State Board of Education,

02:41:33.094 --> 02:41:37.177
advertising for bids for instructional materials.

02:41:39.519 --> 02:41:42.004
<v ->I do have a just a point of information</v>

02:41:42.004 --> 02:41:43.356
that I just want to ask real quick.

02:41:43.356 --> 02:41:46.189
Is Kelly in?
<v ->No, she's not here.</v>

02:41:47.028 --> 02:41:48.888
<v ->Okay, that's all right.</v>

02:41:48.888 --> 02:41:50.670
<v Ms. Martinez>Is it something I might be able to answer?</v>

02:41:50.670 --> 02:41:52.116
<v ->I just want to make sure we're still doing</v>

02:41:52.116 --> 02:41:55.283
the word searches and stuff like that.

02:41:56.135 --> 02:41:59.075
<v ->That is language that you had all read</v>

02:41:59.075 --> 02:42:00.482
two previous proclamations in.

02:42:00.482 --> 02:42:03.290
Typically, what we will do is if you add language

02:42:03.290 --> 02:42:06.907
in one proclamation, we assume that it's your intent

02:42:06.907 --> 02:42:08.857
to continue to have that requirement.

02:42:08.857 --> 02:42:10.543
It's moved that the State Board of Education

02:42:10.543 --> 02:42:12.082
approve Proclamation 2019,

02:42:12.082 --> 02:42:15.064
The State Board of Education advertising for bids

02:42:15.064 --> 02:42:16.110
for instructional material.

02:42:16.110 --> 02:42:17.452
Ae you ready for the question?

02:42:17.452 --> 02:42:19.070
All those in favor say, "Aye."

02:42:19.070 --> 02:42:19.903
<v ->(all together) Aye.</v>

02:42:19.903 --> 02:42:21.737
<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

02:42:21.737 --> 02:42:22.987
Motion carries.

02:42:30.469 --> 02:42:33.282
Is that it?
<v ->That's it for me.</v>

02:42:33.282 --> 02:42:34.449
<v ->Okay, great.</v>

02:42:37.625 --> 02:42:38.678
Announcements.

02:42:38.678 --> 02:42:40.678
I want to make sure that

02:42:42.144 --> 02:42:43.088
staff is passing out

02:42:43.088 --> 02:42:45.272
a satisfaction survey,

02:42:45.272 --> 02:42:49.313
I don't know if y'all have that, for members.

02:42:49.313 --> 02:42:50.978
Please fill it out.

02:42:50.978 --> 02:42:53.802
Our very capable staff is trying to get

02:42:53.802 --> 02:42:57.219
our thoughts about how to help the office

02:42:59.185 --> 02:43:01.685
do a better job of serving us.

02:43:02.575 --> 02:43:04.924
They want to pass out a satisfaction survey.

02:43:04.924 --> 02:43:09.007
So, I'm assuming that's coming, like, any second.

02:43:09.982 --> 02:43:12.952
(chuckles) Survey, not serving.

02:43:12.952 --> 02:43:14.815
Ms. Perez-Diaz?

02:43:14.815 --> 02:43:17.600
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

02:43:17.600 --> 02:43:20.160
Before we dismiss today.

02:43:20.160 --> 02:43:23.104
<v ->Hold on, hold on members, hold on.</v>

02:43:23.104 --> 02:43:25.679
<v ->Sort of feel like how this week has gone.</v>

02:43:25.679 --> 02:43:26.985
Before we dismiss today,

02:43:26.985 --> 02:43:29.444
I have two things that I'd like to say.

02:43:29.444 --> 02:43:32.592
Number one, I want to thank staff for,

02:43:32.592 --> 02:43:35.672
I think the new process that we have in place,

02:43:35.672 --> 02:43:40.066
the phone call about a week prior to the board meeting,

02:43:40.066 --> 02:43:42.855
I think it's a great way to hold board members accountable

02:43:42.855 --> 02:43:45.324
for ensuring that we actually open our board books

02:43:45.324 --> 02:43:47.824
before we get to the meetings.

02:43:48.676 --> 02:43:51.398
I have to say that I appreciated that, staff,

02:43:51.398 --> 02:43:53.246
and I think it helps us get through the week

02:43:53.246 --> 02:43:56.460
a little more quickly and getting you all home earlier

02:43:56.460 --> 02:43:57.896
during the week.

02:43:57.896 --> 02:44:01.896
Secondly, I can't leave this week without saying

02:44:03.128 --> 02:44:06.977
that over the last, probably, several months,

02:44:06.977 --> 02:44:08.260
I've been a little bothered by the way

02:44:08.260 --> 02:44:11.385
that we've handled our English Language Arts,

02:44:11.385 --> 02:44:13.115
Spanish Language Arts adoption.

02:44:13.115 --> 02:44:15.324
I really, really, and I have to preface this

02:44:15.324 --> 02:44:16.611
by saying I really appreciate all

02:44:16.611 --> 02:44:19.509
of the input that we've gotten to this point,

02:44:19.509 --> 02:44:22.002
however, we need to be really careful

02:44:22.002 --> 02:44:24.021
about maintaining fidelity to our process.

02:44:24.021 --> 02:44:26.918
It seems like sometimes we're very selective

02:44:26.918 --> 02:44:30.869
in how we do that when it comes to specific topics.

02:44:30.869 --> 02:44:33.912
I realize that ELAR, SLAR, and ESL

02:44:33.912 --> 02:44:35.829
was a huge undertaking.

02:44:39.631 --> 02:44:42.307
I'm bothered by the fact that we can't quite identify

02:44:42.307 --> 02:44:46.307
what language our original review panelists had.

02:44:48.563 --> 02:44:51.055
If it weren't for staff keeping track,

02:44:51.055 --> 02:44:53.305
we'd all be lost with that.

02:44:54.639 --> 02:44:57.791
When we have this conversation in June

02:44:57.791 --> 02:45:01.208
about revisiting our TEKS review process,

02:45:02.840 --> 02:45:04.523
I really hope that everybody engages

02:45:04.523 --> 02:45:07.523
in a really productive conversation.

02:45:08.846 --> 02:45:11.946
Again, while I appreciate all of the input that's come in,

02:45:11.946 --> 02:45:15.488
I find it to be very frustrating to still

02:45:15.488 --> 02:45:18.655
be getting stacks and stacks of recommendations

02:45:18.655 --> 02:45:20.988
right before second reading.

02:45:22.203 --> 02:45:25.473
I think it's a little dismissive of what we hope

02:45:25.473 --> 02:45:28.199
to accomplish with our panelists.

02:45:28.199 --> 02:45:30.880
These individuals took time out of their busy schedules

02:45:30.880 --> 02:45:34.545
during the school year to come and provide

02:45:34.545 --> 02:45:37.460
their expertise when we've asked them to.

02:45:37.460 --> 02:45:40.865
We just need to be very, very careful.

02:45:40.865 --> 02:45:43.696
When we go into a vote in May,

02:45:43.696 --> 02:45:47.192
while I appreciate, again, the work that was done,

02:45:47.192 --> 02:45:49.359
it's with a little bit of,

02:45:50.736 --> 02:45:54.662
a little bit of frustration because I feel

02:45:54.662 --> 02:45:58.424
that we've moved very far from what our original panels

02:45:58.424 --> 02:46:01.091
were trying to get accomplished.

02:46:02.002 --> 02:46:05.204
I felt like that needed to be said.

02:46:05.204 --> 02:46:07.157
And I wanted individuals to know that

02:46:07.157 --> 02:46:09.820
that was where I was coming from.

02:46:09.820 --> 02:46:11.383
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:46:11.383 --> 02:46:13.604
Members, I just want to say

02:46:13.604 --> 02:46:15.365
at the end when we're doing this.

02:46:15.365 --> 02:46:17.269
What I'd really like is if you have something

02:46:17.269 --> 02:46:18.964
that has pertain to the business,

02:46:18.964 --> 02:46:21.530
let's keep it on that particular thing

02:46:21.530 --> 02:46:23.469
and not do it at the end of the meeting.

02:46:23.469 --> 02:46:25.550
'Cause I'd like to just stay with announcements

02:46:25.550 --> 02:46:29.602
and things like that at the end of the meeting,

02:46:29.602 --> 02:46:31.276
surveys and things.

02:46:31.276 --> 02:46:33.747
Housekeeping, house cleaning, kind of stuff.

02:46:33.747 --> 02:46:37.047
If that's all right with respect with Ms. Perez-Diaz.

02:46:37.047 --> 02:46:38.827
<v ->Well, I have something personal.</v>

02:46:38.827 --> 02:46:40.647
One of my twins got engaged,

02:46:40.647 --> 02:46:42.444
so I'm finally getting a girl,

02:46:42.444 --> 02:46:43.573
in the family,

02:46:43.573 --> 02:46:45.717
after being raised with three brothers

02:46:45.717 --> 02:46:48.879
and having three sons, it is time.

02:46:48.879 --> 02:46:50.767
<v ->Absolutely, congratulations.
<v ->So, we're happy.</v>

02:46:50.767 --> 02:46:52.308
January 20th.
<v ->Congratulations.</v>

02:46:52.308 --> 02:46:54.531
Then, you've got a wedding coming up, Mr. Mercer, I think.

02:46:54.531 --> 02:46:55.948
Not you, not you.

02:46:55.948 --> 02:46:59.761
<v ->Yeah, I finally asked, Rosie, my wife to marry me.</v>

02:46:59.761 --> 02:47:01.658
About time, we've got two kids now.

02:47:01.658 --> 02:47:03.140
I figured.

02:47:03.140 --> 02:47:05.199
My youngest daughter will be graduating

02:47:05.199 --> 02:47:08.017
with Beta University with highest honor

02:47:08.017 --> 02:47:10.244
in the week of the 13th.

02:47:10.244 --> 02:47:13.593
Then my oldest daughter is marrying a really fine guy

02:47:13.593 --> 02:47:16.263
who's a medical doctor who is serving in Togo

02:47:16.263 --> 02:47:19.667
and Ethiopia on his mission stuff.

02:47:19.667 --> 02:47:21.350
But she's getting married in June.

02:47:21.350 --> 02:47:23.457
So, I'm having a very, very busy summer.

02:47:23.457 --> 02:47:24.876
<v Mrs. Bahorich>That's wonderful.</v>

02:47:24.876 --> 02:47:25.955
<v ->For those of y'all that didn't notice,</v>

02:47:25.955 --> 02:47:28.354
yes, I am now parting my hair on the left side.

02:47:28.354 --> 02:47:29.802
Thank you.

02:47:29.802 --> 02:47:32.339
<v ->(laughing) Any other personal announcements.</v>

02:47:32.339 --> 02:47:34.553
Have we missed any honors that our members have received.

02:47:34.553 --> 02:47:37.514
This is when we like to talk about that stuff.

02:47:37.514 --> 02:47:38.514
Mr. Maynard.

02:47:39.834 --> 02:47:42.370
<v Mr. Maynard>I just wanted to remind folks,</v>

02:47:42.370 --> 02:47:46.601
I guess Tuesday, that the House is gonna be taking up 1857.

02:47:46.601 --> 02:47:47.936
<v ->Oh, that's right.</v>

02:47:47.936 --> 02:47:50.454
Members, as you know, we had the Accountability Bill

02:47:50.454 --> 02:47:51.597
that was heard.

02:47:51.597 --> 02:47:54.228
Senate Bill 801 and that we all agreed with.

02:47:54.228 --> 02:47:56.061
<v ->Suitability, right.</v>

02:47:56.061 --> 02:47:58.381
<v ->Oh, suitability, sorry, not accountability.</v>

02:47:58.381 --> 02:47:59.600
Oh, my goodness.

02:47:59.600 --> 02:48:01.798
Yes, let's not get into that conversation.

02:48:01.798 --> 02:48:04.399
So, suitability on Senate Bill 801

02:48:04.399 --> 02:48:08.399
was heard and was enthusiastically, bipartisanly

02:48:09.234 --> 02:48:11.472
embraced there at the committee in the Senate.

02:48:11.472 --> 02:48:13.799
So, Tuesday, that hearing will happen as well.

02:48:13.799 --> 02:48:15.774
Mr. Maynard plans on going.

02:48:15.774 --> 02:48:17.295
<v Mr. Maynard>I'll be there.</v>

02:48:17.295 --> 02:48:19.732
<v ->Yes, thank you for reminding us about that, Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:48:19.732 --> 02:48:21.244
Did anybody else have any announcements?

02:48:21.244 --> 02:48:23.832
I think Mr. Rowley was gonna say something.

02:48:23.832 --> 02:48:26.560
<v ->I'll just take the risk of blowing my own horn.</v>

02:48:26.560 --> 02:48:28.715
I was named a distinguished alumni

02:48:28.715 --> 02:48:32.552
of Eastern New Mexico University for this year.

02:48:32.552 --> 02:48:35.463
One of two people named.
<v ->Very cool.</v>

02:48:35.463 --> 02:48:39.276
<v ->Got to be in the homecoming parade and wave.</v>

02:48:39.276 --> 02:48:40.972
Highlight of my life.

02:48:40.972 --> 02:48:44.805
Highlight of my life.
<v ->Absolutely, absolutely.</v>

02:48:50.522 --> 02:48:51.987
Any other personal announcements?

02:48:51.987 --> 02:48:53.648
<v ->Madam Chair, I forgot to mention.</v>

02:48:53.648 --> 02:48:55.081
I was at a conference in Washington DC

02:48:55.081 --> 02:48:57.092
in the National Educational Leadership conference.

02:48:57.092 --> 02:48:59.870
It was neat because one of our own charter schools,

02:48:59.870 --> 02:49:02.581
IDF from Brownsville was recognized.

02:49:02.581 --> 02:49:05.129
First time ever they gave a National Educational

02:49:05.129 --> 02:49:07.402
Leadership award to a charter school,

02:49:07.402 --> 02:49:10.216
and it was from Texas and from the Valley.

02:49:10.216 --> 02:49:12.871
Because their graduates are graduating three times

02:49:12.871 --> 02:49:14.371
the national rate.

02:49:15.688 --> 02:49:16.930
Remember, I keep on saying that I just get 'em

02:49:16.930 --> 02:49:18.873
to college to get 'em through?

02:49:18.873 --> 02:49:20.331
They are three times the national average

02:49:20.331 --> 02:49:23.037
in getting kids through college after graduation.

02:49:23.037 --> 02:49:25.732
So, fantastic.
<v ->That's great.</v>

02:49:25.732 --> 02:49:29.247
Any other personal announcements?

02:49:29.247 --> 02:49:30.825
Members, this survey, by the way,

02:49:30.825 --> 02:49:32.895
is gonna be something that staff wants to hand out

02:49:32.895 --> 02:49:35.556
every Friday at the board meeting week.

02:49:35.556 --> 02:49:37.306
Just to let us know now,

02:49:37.306 --> 02:49:40.288
do we have a calculation of what day is gonna work?

02:49:40.288 --> 02:49:42.071
<v ->Well, I have calculations of several days</v>

02:49:42.071 --> 02:49:46.884
that will work and then you guys will have to pick.

02:49:46.884 --> 02:49:49.020
These are the counts of members that can be here.

02:49:49.020 --> 02:49:50.133
<v ->Okay, great.</v>

02:49:50.133 --> 02:49:53.556
Okay, members, I'm gonna just make an executive decision

02:49:53.556 --> 02:49:54.806
to do it on the

02:49:57.309 --> 02:49:59.809
9th. Sorry, sorry, the 10th.

02:50:01.541 --> 02:50:03.807
No, I can be there on the 10th.

02:50:03.807 --> 02:50:05.224
I meant the 10th.

02:50:07.390 --> 02:50:09.952
But we can do either morning or afternoon.

02:50:09.952 --> 02:50:11.885
Would you rather do an eight o'clock or a 3 P.M.?

02:50:11.885 --> 02:50:16.681
<v Man>If it's a morning, it saves me one day of travel.</v>

02:50:16.681 --> 02:50:18.220
<v ->Okay, let's do a morning.</v>

02:50:18.220 --> 02:50:19.053
Let's do a morning.

02:50:19.053 --> 02:50:20.382
Let's do an eight o'clock.

02:50:20.382 --> 02:50:21.824
And that'll be holding us accountable

02:50:21.824 --> 02:50:24.471
'cause we've got to get in charter interview at 9.

02:50:24.471 --> 02:50:26.845
So, again, this is for just making sure

02:50:26.845 --> 02:50:29.405
that staff is comfortable with all the edits

02:50:29.405 --> 02:50:34.085
that were done and to be ready to make that vote.

02:50:34.085 --> 02:50:38.813
Put down on your calendar, May the 10th at 8 A.M.

02:50:38.813 --> 02:50:41.256
to meet. I assume we meet here because this

02:50:41.256 --> 02:50:44.524
is where the charter interviews are, right?

02:50:44.524 --> 02:50:46.357
Will we meet in this room or would we meet

02:50:46.357 --> 02:50:47.713
in one of the other rooms?

02:50:47.713 --> 02:50:48.820
In this room?

02:50:48.820 --> 02:50:51.137
Okay, so, we'll meet here.

02:50:51.137 --> 02:50:52.986
I have down that the following folks

02:50:52.986 --> 02:50:54.678
will be here at that meeting.

02:50:54.678 --> 02:50:56.104
I want to make sure this is really important.

02:50:56.104 --> 02:50:58.641
You cannot not show up for the meeting.

02:50:58.641 --> 02:51:00.141
I'm gonna be here.

02:51:01.063 --> 02:51:05.230
Gina's gonna be here, Ruben, Lawrence, David, Kevin,

02:51:06.253 --> 02:51:08.797
Erika, Sue, and Marty.

02:51:08.797 --> 02:51:09.876
<v Mr. Overbey>How many is that?</v>

02:51:09.876 --> 02:51:11.339
<v ->That's one, two, three, four,</v>

02:51:11.339 --> 02:51:12.796
five, six, seven, eight, nine.

02:51:12.796 --> 02:51:16.213
Yeah, nine folks, 8 A.M. on May the 10th.

02:51:19.462 --> 02:51:23.379
If two of us just can't be, there we can't meet.

02:51:25.803 --> 02:51:29.628
Yeah, so, if you are on your deathbed make sure

02:51:29.628 --> 02:51:31.280
somebody calls us.

02:51:31.280 --> 02:51:32.708
(laughing)

02:51:32.708 --> 02:51:34.095
<v Man>Bring the bed in, roll the bed in.</v>

02:51:34.095 --> 02:51:35.000
<v ->Yeah, roll the bed in.</v>

02:51:35.000 --> 02:51:35.871
We'll do that.

02:51:35.871 --> 02:51:38.352
<v ->Madam Chair?
<v ->Yes, Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:51:38.352 --> 02:51:40.146
<v Mr. Maynard>Why would anybody possess</v>

02:51:40.146 --> 02:51:42.645
such a piece of furniture, a deathbed?

02:51:42.645 --> 02:51:43.707
Why would you buy a deathbed?

02:51:43.707 --> 02:51:44.782
<v ->Stop that.</v>

02:51:44.782 --> 02:51:45.746
Ms. Hardy.

02:51:45.746 --> 02:51:48.829
<v ->I would like a clarification on the</v>

02:51:50.185 --> 02:51:51.768
proclamation thing.

02:51:53.436 --> 02:51:57.239
Is it gonna be that we will not have another delay

02:51:57.239 --> 02:52:00.572
on the proclamation because of the, uh,?

02:52:03.478 --> 02:52:06.145
<v ->No, no other delay.
<v ->No delay.</v>

02:52:07.506 --> 02:52:08.339
Okay.

02:52:09.487 --> 02:52:11.247
<v Mrs. Bahorich>All right, members, thank you very much.</v>

02:52:11.247 --> 02:52:13.080
Meeting is adjourned.