WEBVTT 00:00:03.877 --> 00:00:08.474 The Junior Historians from West, Texas. 00:00:09.330 --> 00:00:11.783 They are going to dance some Czech dances 00:00:11.861 --> 00:00:13.179 for us this morning. 00:00:13.179 --> 00:00:13.973 I'm so excited. 00:00:13.973 --> 00:00:15.792 I hope y'all will enjoy it as much as I enjoy 00:00:15.792 --> 00:00:16.889 seeing them dance. 00:00:17.732 --> 00:00:22.732 They were formed in 1975 by one of our beloved members 00:00:24.072 --> 00:00:24.658 of the community 00:00:24.658 --> 00:00:27.414 and the education community as well. 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:29.631 We all knew him as Poon Morgan. 00:00:29.940 --> 00:00:31.061 Unfortunately, Poon 00:00:31.061 --> 00:00:31.923 has passed away 00:00:31.923 --> 00:00:34.242 but I know he's watching these kids dance, 00:00:34.242 --> 00:00:35.662 because he took great pride in them. 00:00:38.078 --> 00:00:41.155 They have traveled to the Czech Republic representing 00:00:41.267 --> 00:00:42.613 West and the United States 00:00:42.613 --> 00:00:43.829 and Texas. 00:00:43.829 --> 00:00:47.931 They've traveled all over Texas representing West 00:00:48.143 --> 00:00:53.143 and West ISD just promoting the culture of the Czech people 00:00:54.686 --> 00:00:56.219 across the whole State of Texas. 00:00:56.894 --> 00:00:59.343 So without further adeiu, I give to you, 00:00:59.883 --> 00:01:03.875 the Junior Historian Czech dancers from West, Texas. 00:01:06.395 --> 00:01:08.490 (speaking in foreign language) 00:01:08.490 --> 00:01:09.678 That's Czech for good morning, 00:01:09.678 --> 00:01:10.523 How are you? 00:01:10.603 --> 00:01:12.437 We are the West High School Junior Historian 00:01:12.437 --> 00:01:13.683 Performing Dancers 00:01:13.683 --> 00:01:16.396 representing Czech culture for over 40 years 00:01:16.833 --> 00:01:17.491 for the community of West, 00:01:17.491 --> 00:01:19.324 a small town almost two hours north. 00:01:20.070 --> 00:01:21.617 Our community of West is proud of its 00:01:21.617 --> 00:01:22.545 Czech descendants 00:01:22.545 --> 00:01:23.288 and heritage. 00:01:23.862 --> 00:01:24.597 The Junior Historians, 00:01:24.597 --> 00:01:25.580 through its performances, 00:01:25.580 --> 00:01:27.577 seek to share part of this culture with you. 00:01:28.176 --> 00:01:30.933 Here's our first dance performance to an old favorite polka, 00:01:31.147 --> 00:01:33.029 "Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie." 00:01:36.003 --> 00:01:40.150 (uptempo music) 00:01:43.767 --> 00:01:44.701 ♫ I am here, 00:01:44.780 --> 00:01:45.658 I am there, 00:01:45.936 --> 00:01:47.699 I'm everywhere. 00:01:48.074 --> 00:01:49.745 I'm over here 00:01:50.026 --> 00:01:51.820 and I'm over there. 00:01:52.068 --> 00:01:52.977 I am here, 00:01:53.091 --> 00:01:53.931 I am there, 00:01:54.215 --> 00:01:55.945 I'm everywhere. 00:01:56.222 --> 00:02:00.013 Let's all play hide and seek. 00:02:00.325 --> 00:02:01.313 Apples, Peaches, 00:02:01.313 --> 00:02:02.158 Pumpkin Pie, 00:02:02.269 --> 00:02:03.143 who's not ready, 00:02:03.291 --> 00:02:04.135 holler I. 00:02:04.380 --> 00:02:08.157 Let's all play hide and seek. 00:02:08.466 --> 00:02:09.357 Apple, Peaches, 00:02:09.357 --> 00:02:10.294 Pumpkin Pie, 00:02:10.573 --> 00:02:12.343 who's not ready, holler I. 00:02:12.651 --> 00:02:16.203 Let's all play hide and seek. ♫ 00:02:16.743 --> 00:02:20.243 (uptempo music) 00:02:49.500 --> 00:02:50.420 ♫ I am here, 00:02:50.420 --> 00:02:51.323 I am there, 00:02:51.471 --> 00:02:53.295 I'm everywhere. 00:02:53.575 --> 00:02:55.368 I'm over here, 00:02:55.643 --> 00:02:57.406 then I'm over there. 00:02:57.650 --> 00:02:58.494 I am here, 00:02:58.706 --> 00:02:59.580 I am there. 00:02:59.790 --> 00:03:01.512 I'm everywhere. 00:03:01.824 --> 00:03:05.424 Let's all play hide and seek. 00:03:05.895 --> 00:03:07.750 Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie, 00:03:07.958 --> 00:03:09.684 who's not ready, holler I. 00:03:09.896 --> 00:03:13.688 Let's all play hide and seek. 00:03:13.965 --> 00:03:15.989 Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie, 00:03:16.068 --> 00:03:17.922 who's not ready holler, I. 00:03:18.034 --> 00:03:21.771 Let's all play hide and seek. ♫ 00:03:22.152 --> 00:03:26.077 (uptempo music) 00:03:40.504 --> 00:03:43.919 (applause) 00:03:48.148 --> 00:03:49.163 As the dancers get ready 00:03:49.163 --> 00:03:49.967 for the Garden Waltz, 00:03:50.011 --> 00:03:52.146 note that the costumes of our dancers are similar 00:03:52.146 --> 00:03:54.169 to those worn by the early Czech settlers. 00:03:54.939 --> 00:03:56.835 Our performances feature Goya, 00:03:56.946 --> 00:03:58.810 folk costumes from the Czech Republic 00:03:58.810 --> 00:03:59.979 and Slovakia. 00:04:00.388 --> 00:04:01.949 These costumes blend bold colors, 00:04:01.949 --> 00:04:02.789 fine fabrics, 00:04:03.035 --> 00:04:05.668 and detailed designs in the works of wearable art. 00:04:06.271 --> 00:04:09.634 The next dance is a variation of Furient that was performed 00:04:09.634 --> 00:04:12.498 during rural festivals in what is now the Czech Republic. 00:04:13.042 --> 00:04:14.144 Here is the Garden Waltz, 00:04:14.144 --> 00:04:15.778 also known as the Flying Dutchmen 00:04:15.778 --> 00:04:17.113 or the Troika. 00:04:20.284 --> 00:04:23.711 (uptempo music) 00:06:44.890 --> 00:06:49.057 (applause) 00:06:53.139 --> 00:06:53.982 The next dance, 00:06:54.161 --> 00:06:55.201 the 7-Step Polka, 00:06:55.315 --> 00:06:57.369 is an example of a dance of Czech origin 00:06:57.549 --> 00:06:59.313 it was a favorite dance style of society 00:06:59.422 --> 00:07:00.851 for more than 50 years. 00:07:01.489 --> 00:07:04.465 This style was first performed in a small Bohemian village 00:07:04.514 --> 00:07:05.614 back in 1830. 00:07:06.211 --> 00:07:08.561 After its performance in Paris in 1844, 00:07:08.844 --> 00:07:11.796 it became the most popular dance in the capitals of Europe. 00:07:12.372 --> 00:07:15.029 The group will now perform the 7-Step Polka. 00:07:17.317 --> 00:07:20.012 (uptempo music) 00:09:32.567 --> 00:09:36.508 (applause) 00:09:40.736 --> 00:09:41.065 Next, 00:09:41.065 --> 00:09:43.279 our dancer will perform Maraska Besida, 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:44.373 the Bravidant Besida, 00:09:44.373 --> 00:09:45.789 the Czech national dance. 00:09:46.462 --> 00:09:49.037 Each of the parts of this routine tells a separate story. 00:09:49.538 --> 00:09:50.130 For example, 00:09:50.130 --> 00:09:52.261 one part tells a group of young people 00:09:52.261 --> 00:09:53.083 who are out having fun 00:09:53.083 --> 00:09:55.660 and the girls decide to look around to see if they can find 00:09:55.660 --> 00:09:58.100 new partners who are more to their liking or suiting. 00:09:58.673 --> 00:10:02.043 Now the dancers will perform the Maraska Besida. 00:10:06.237 --> 00:10:10.430 (low-tempo music) 00:15:27.522 --> 00:15:31.732 (applause) 00:15:35.741 --> 00:15:37.040 Before they perform their final routine, 00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:39.319 I want to recognize a special member of our group. 00:15:39.368 --> 00:15:43.676 We have with us Ms. Czech Texas, Czech Slovak Queen, 00:15:43.676 --> 00:15:44.820 Ms. Allison Sexton. 00:15:45.333 --> 00:15:48.553 (applause) 00:15:50.817 --> 00:15:53.174 Here's our final performance to Henry Mancini's waltz, 00:15:53.174 --> 00:15:54.280 the "Summer in Gstaad" 00:15:54.625 --> 00:15:55.566 or, "the Gstaad Waltz." 00:15:56.016 --> 00:15:58.378 Although "the Summer in Gstaad" refers to Gstaad, Switzerland, 00:15:58.378 --> 00:16:02.034 the world, 'waltz,' is derived from the old German word 'walzen,' 00:16:02.084 --> 00:16:03.313 meaning to roll, turn 00:16:03.313 --> 00:16:04.258 or to glide. 00:16:04.769 --> 00:16:06.585 Here's "The Summer in Gstaad Waltz." 00:16:09.731 --> 00:16:14.731 (uptempo music) 00:18:09.189 --> 00:18:12.248 (applause) 00:18:16.950 --> 00:18:18.052 We hope you've enjoyed our performances 00:18:18.052 --> 00:18:20.901 as we've shared a small part of our Czech heritage with you. 00:18:21.323 --> 00:18:22.801 Thank you. 00:18:23.431 --> 00:18:25.875 (applause) 00:18:25.875 --> 00:18:27.790 Let's give them another round of applause. 00:18:45.309 --> 00:18:48.272 Thank you so much Czech dancers for coming today 00:18:48.426 --> 00:18:50.994 and sharing part of your morning with us 00:18:51.207 --> 00:18:53.515 and you got out of school for a little while. 00:18:53.705 --> 00:18:54.939 (laughter) 00:18:54.939 --> 00:18:57.950 I'm proud to say I taught a couple of these kiddos 00:18:57.967 --> 00:18:59.017 that are dancing today. 00:18:59.165 --> 00:19:01.487 I'm very, very proud of them. 00:19:02.435 --> 00:19:04.283 We have something for you. 00:19:04.631 --> 00:19:07.834 We have a certificate. 00:19:07.834 --> 00:19:10.281 State Board of Education special recognition 00:19:10.563 --> 00:19:13.316 presented to West High School Junior Historians, 00:19:13.899 --> 00:19:15.465 Aaron Wernet, sponsor 00:19:15.846 --> 00:19:18.101 in appreciation for outstanding performance 00:19:18.251 --> 00:19:20.301 at the State Board of Education general meeting, 00:19:20.715 --> 00:19:23.232 January 29, 2016, 00:19:23.284 --> 00:19:24.229 Austin, Texas, 00:19:24.315 --> 00:19:25.717 Sue Melton-Malone, 00:19:25.717 --> 00:19:28.493 this State Board of Education, District 14. 00:19:30.106 --> 00:19:32.012 This is their director, Aaron Wernet. 00:19:32.651 --> 00:19:36.289 (applause) 00:19:37.801 --> 00:19:39.735 The superintendent for West ISD 00:19:39.735 --> 00:19:41.363 is Dr. David Truett 00:19:41.363 --> 00:19:42.781 and the principal of the high school 00:19:42.796 --> 00:19:44.076 is Don Snook. 00:19:44.290 --> 00:19:46.049 Unfortunately, they were 00:19:46.049 --> 00:19:47.711 not able to be with us this morning, 00:19:47.711 --> 00:19:50.730 but we're sending greetings back from us to them. 00:19:51.505 --> 00:19:54.108 Thank you again Czech dancers so very much 00:19:54.108 --> 00:19:56.724 that you represent West ISD and West 00:19:57.169 --> 00:19:59.701 so, so wonderfully 00:19:59.984 --> 00:20:01.588 and we are so proud of you. 00:20:01.588 --> 00:20:04.001 We thank you so much for being here with us today. 00:20:04.769 --> 00:20:08.234 (applause) 00:22:27.010 --> 00:22:27.792 Dr. Dominguez, 00:22:28.598 --> 00:22:30.733 if you'll give our invocation and pledges. 00:22:45.345 --> 00:22:46.826 Father, Gracious God, 00:22:48.356 --> 00:22:49.603 thank you for the gift of today. 00:22:50.737 --> 00:22:54.007 We thank you for the opportunity to begin this new year. 00:22:56.259 --> 00:23:00.277 You have made human beings in such a way that all education 00:23:00.345 --> 00:23:02.569 is most important for our welfare. 00:23:03.962 --> 00:23:05.745 We ask that you bless the students, 00:23:05.933 --> 00:23:07.385 faculty, 00:23:08.061 --> 00:23:09.093 student families, 00:23:09.635 --> 00:23:10.827 superintendents, 00:23:12.202 --> 00:23:15.305 local school boards commissioner of education, 00:23:16.406 --> 00:23:17.155 governor, 00:23:17.155 --> 00:23:18.019 and this board. 00:23:20.391 --> 00:23:21.615 We ask for your guidance 00:23:22.786 --> 00:23:24.316 and that this board's actions 00:23:25.419 --> 00:23:29.111 make our schools lively centers for sound learning, 00:23:30.249 --> 00:23:31.590 new discovery 00:23:31.764 --> 00:23:33.735 and the pursuit of wisdom for each student. 00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:39.104 Therefore, teach us 00:23:39.104 --> 00:23:40.464 when to speak 00:23:40.573 --> 00:23:41.718 and when to listen. 00:23:43.182 --> 00:23:44.255 In moments of challenge, 00:23:44.342 --> 00:23:45.485 and decision, 00:23:45.531 --> 00:23:48.663 attune our hearts to the whispering of your wisdom. 00:23:50.704 --> 00:23:53.206 We pray that you will guide us in all ways 00:23:54.523 --> 00:23:58.811 so that we will seek your will in everything that we do. 00:24:00.044 --> 00:24:02.514 We ask this in thy name, amen. 00:24:05.231 --> 00:24:06.273 I pledge allegiance 00:24:06.273 --> 00:24:07.462 if you could rise please, 00:24:07.462 --> 00:24:08.496 I pledge allegiance 00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:09.874 to the flag, 00:24:10.031 --> 00:24:12.253 of the United States of America. 00:24:12.579 --> 00:24:13.832 And to the republic, 00:24:13.832 --> 00:24:14.843 for which it stands, 00:24:15.201 --> 00:24:16.205 one nation, 00:24:16.350 --> 00:24:17.247 under God, 00:24:17.392 --> 00:24:19.299 indivisible with liberty 00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:21.133 and justice for all. 00:24:21.702 --> 00:24:22.743 The Texas pledge. 00:24:23.247 --> 00:24:24.814 Honor the Texas flag, 00:24:25.289 --> 00:24:27.801 I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, 00:24:28.202 --> 00:24:29.736 One state under God, 00:24:30.100 --> 00:24:31.484 one and indivisible. 00:24:33.320 --> 00:24:34.406 Thank you Dr. Dominguez. 00:24:34.761 --> 00:24:35.511 You're welcome. 00:24:43.580 --> 00:24:45.336 Members we're about to do the roll call. 00:24:45.371 --> 00:24:47.532 If there's some folks in the back. 00:24:51.280 --> 00:24:52.189 Mr. Allen. 00:24:53.575 --> 00:24:54.684 Mrs. Bahorich. 00:24:54.726 --> 00:24:55.439 Here. 00:24:56.116 --> 00:24:57.045 Ms. Beltran. 00:24:58.013 --> 00:24:58.879 Mr. Bradley. 00:24:59.911 --> 00:25:01.261 Mrs. Cargill. 00:25:01.588 --> 00:25:02.525 Mr. Cortez. 00:25:03.678 --> 00:25:04.683 Dr. Dominguez. 00:25:04.690 --> 00:25:05.401 Here. 00:25:05.728 --> 00:25:06.476 Ms. Hardy. 00:25:06.512 --> 00:25:07.084 Here. 00:25:07.305 --> 00:25:07.968 Mr. Maynard. 00:25:07.968 --> 00:25:08.623 Here. 00:25:09.101 --> 00:25:09.859 Mrs. Malton-Malone. 00:25:10.118 --> 00:25:10.766 Here. 00:25:10.952 --> 00:25:11.633 Mr. Mercer. 00:25:11.795 --> 00:25:12.971 District Five is present. 00:25:13.254 --> 00:25:13.979 Mrs. Miller. 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:15.946 Ms. Perez. 00:25:17.186 --> 00:25:18.041 Mr. Ratliff. 00:25:18.612 --> 00:25:19.431 Mr. Rowley. 00:25:19.610 --> 00:25:20.188 Here. 00:25:26.224 --> 00:25:28.224 Members we are very honored to have 00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:30.153 the Texas Superintendent of the Year, 00:25:30.155 --> 00:25:31.589 Texas Teacher of the Year, 00:25:31.589 --> 00:25:33.380 as well as the Secondary Teacher of the Year 00:25:33.557 --> 00:25:34.567 here with us this morning. 00:25:34.825 --> 00:25:36.190 I'm going to ask Mary Ann Whitaker, 00:25:36.761 --> 00:25:38.721 who is the Texas Superintendent of the Year, 00:25:38.871 --> 00:25:39.626 to come forward 00:25:39.672 --> 00:25:40.949 and give us some remarks. 00:25:41.463 --> 00:25:42.398 Welcome, Mary Ann. 00:25:44.818 --> 00:25:48.567 (applause) 00:25:52.546 --> 00:25:53.018 Yeah, you gotta 00:25:53.018 --> 00:25:53.744 push that button. 00:25:56.067 --> 00:25:57.130 Chairwoman Bahorich, 00:25:57.313 --> 00:26:00.034 thank you so very much for this invitation today. 00:26:00.854 --> 00:26:01.991 To the other board members, 00:26:02.277 --> 00:26:03.988 I'm thrilled to be here 00:26:04.195 --> 00:26:07.134 and share some insights on how I feel 00:26:07.459 --> 00:26:10.520 and what we need to be doing for students to be successful. 00:26:10.775 --> 00:26:13.733 I'm going to tweak my assignment just a tad. 00:26:14.301 --> 00:26:15.652 What I would like to share with you 00:26:15.831 --> 00:26:19.989 is probably more of my philosophy right now 00:26:20.131 --> 00:26:23.010 and actually what we are doing in my district 00:26:23.231 --> 00:26:26.272 and I can assure you it is bringing tremendous success. 00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:30.484 The first driver that I'm going to mention today 00:26:30.520 --> 00:26:32.919 is probably not politically correct at this time, 00:26:33.058 --> 00:26:33.947 but oh well. 00:26:34.125 --> 00:26:35.119 After 43 years, 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:36.824 what are they going to do to me? 00:26:37.142 --> 00:26:39.035 (laughter) 00:26:39.992 --> 00:26:43.694 The first thing I'm going to say is that at Hudson ISD 00:26:43.694 --> 00:26:46.201 we are no longer playing the testing game 00:26:46.595 --> 00:26:48.097 or the accountability game. 00:26:48.776 --> 00:26:52.332 God forgive me for what I have done to students 00:26:52.623 --> 00:26:55.917 and teachers over banners on a wall 00:26:56.354 --> 00:26:58.569 and plaques in the offices. 00:26:58.890 --> 00:27:00.292 That was wrong. 00:27:00.722 --> 00:27:02.079 I'm ashamed of that 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.820 and I have spent the last four years trying to undo 00:27:04.831 --> 00:27:05.827 that mistake. 00:27:06.792 --> 00:27:08.874 You say is it working? 00:27:08.874 --> 00:27:09.766 Yes, I'm a 00:27:09.766 --> 00:27:11.540 mid-sized school in East Texas 00:27:11.548 --> 00:27:14.196 with over 50% of my students poverty. 00:27:14.840 --> 00:27:16.511 We are a property-poor school district 00:27:16.737 --> 00:27:18.196 with very limited resources, 00:27:18.842 --> 00:27:20.551 and in a few moments I will share 00:27:20.551 --> 00:27:22.755 some of the success we are having. 00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:23.863 Most importantly, 00:27:24.365 --> 00:27:25.936 my children love to come to school 00:27:26.401 --> 00:27:28.067 and that is truly exciting. 00:27:28.845 --> 00:27:30.519 The next thing I want to share with you is, 00:27:30.627 --> 00:27:33.694 ok, I gave up the testing game 00:27:33.982 --> 00:27:35.204 so what did I go to? 00:27:35.988 --> 00:27:37.237 This document right here. 00:27:38.271 --> 00:27:41.130 It's a new vision for 21st century education. 00:27:42.152 --> 00:27:44.112 Oh my gosh. 00:27:45.030 --> 00:27:48.880 This was created by 35 very courageous superintendents 00:27:49.057 --> 00:27:50.286 along with TASA. 00:27:50.835 --> 00:27:53.135 They spent two years developing this document 00:27:53.735 --> 00:27:56.520 and for months I thought it was going to be just 00:27:56.520 --> 00:27:58.472 for the urban, rich schools. 00:27:59.096 --> 00:28:02.594 Until finally my friends convinced me to read this document. 00:28:03.028 --> 00:28:03.665 I read it, 00:28:04.404 --> 00:28:05.874 read it again 00:28:06.094 --> 00:28:07.099 and started highlighting. 00:28:07.563 --> 00:28:08.289 I realized, 00:28:08.332 --> 00:28:11.638 my gosh, this is for all students in the state of Texas. 00:28:12.021 --> 00:28:13.739 It's not just about the rich 00:28:13.858 --> 00:28:14.648 and the wealthy, 00:28:14.691 --> 00:28:15.977 and the big urban areas. 00:28:16.354 --> 00:28:17.827 It is about all students. 00:28:18.473 --> 00:28:21.450 The beauty of this document is it is not a how. 00:28:21.891 --> 00:28:23.845 it doesn't tell you how to go out 00:28:24.130 --> 00:28:25.679 and what programs to buy 00:28:25.679 --> 00:28:26.432 and what to do. 00:28:27.069 --> 00:28:30.046 It's very similar to the Declaration of Independence 00:28:30.265 --> 00:28:33.103 and I am calling this my Declaration for Education. 00:28:33.628 --> 00:28:37.378 It's based on priciples of what quality education 00:28:37.488 --> 00:28:39.694 should be for the 21st century. 00:28:40.364 --> 00:28:44.623 There are five basic principles that are driving my school 00:28:44.776 --> 00:28:47.174 at this time with tremendous success. 00:28:47.816 --> 00:28:51.256 Very briefly, I would kind of like to give you an idea of how 00:28:51.256 --> 00:28:53.824 that is a little different from what maybe we 00:28:53.824 --> 00:28:54.806 have been doing. 00:28:55.238 --> 00:28:56.203 First of all, 00:28:57.274 --> 00:28:59.145 let's talk about learning standards. 00:29:00.143 --> 00:29:05.143 I have here two grade levels of learning standards TEKS. 00:29:06.890 --> 00:29:08.141 For first grade, 00:29:08.959 --> 00:29:13.578 35 pages of standards for a six year old. 00:29:14.522 --> 00:29:15.837 35 pages. 00:29:16.612 --> 00:29:17.825 If you're in the third grade, 00:29:18.176 --> 00:29:20.800 I have 45 pages of standards. 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.379 Our children go to school 180 days 00:29:24.564 --> 00:29:27.690 or now 75,600 minutes. 00:29:28.564 --> 00:29:29.805 This is too much. 00:29:30.435 --> 00:29:31.617 So what we have done 00:29:31.731 --> 00:29:35.586 is we have decided that we need to look at broader concepts, 00:29:36.161 --> 00:29:38.562 we need to narrow what we are teaching. 00:29:38.921 --> 00:29:40.941 At this time while we're awaiting 00:29:40.941 --> 00:29:43.717 with your wisdom to begin reviewing the TEKS 00:29:43.934 --> 00:29:46.086 and recognizing that we've had too much, 00:29:46.729 --> 00:29:48.865 we're focusing on the readiness standards. 00:29:49.254 --> 00:29:51.653 The beauty is when you focus on readiness standards, 00:29:51.668 --> 00:29:52.914 you're going to hit the supporting. 00:29:53.374 --> 00:29:55.951 But stay with standards long enough 00:29:55.951 --> 00:29:57.734 to master those standards. 00:29:58.560 --> 00:30:00.434 Another thing I discovered in this process, 00:30:00.544 --> 00:30:02.359 for too long when you're playing the testing game, 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.743 you're focusing on the testing grade levels 00:30:05.211 --> 00:30:06.206 or the subject. 00:30:06.637 --> 00:30:08.010 When we stepped back from this, 00:30:08.010 --> 00:30:10.765 I realized my elementary scores had not been 00:30:10.765 --> 00:30:11.839 where they needed to be, 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.022 not because I had a problem at elementary school, 00:30:14.983 --> 00:30:16.816 I had a problem at primary school. 00:30:17.251 --> 00:30:20.509 My children couldn't read when they left the second grade. 00:30:21.263 --> 00:30:23.283 I began to look at what we were using, 00:30:23.499 --> 00:30:24.687 where we were going 00:30:24.687 --> 00:30:26.813 and I realized phonics had been thrown out the window 00:30:26.813 --> 00:30:27.969 years and years ago. 00:30:28.328 --> 00:30:31.484 Our students did not have skills to attack reading. 00:30:32.243 --> 00:30:35.750 I was able to work with the Blue Bird Clinic of Houston and 00:30:35.750 --> 00:30:36.571 Neuhaus. 00:30:36.756 --> 00:30:41.756 I now have all my primary teachers Pre-K through third grade 00:30:42.153 --> 00:30:43.280 trained in Neuhaus. 00:30:43.575 --> 00:30:47.286 We have a 45-minute lesson every day in phonics 00:30:47.537 --> 00:30:50.955 giving kids the tools to sound words. 00:30:51.661 --> 00:30:54.110 The amazing thing is after that first year, 00:30:54.641 --> 00:30:58.957 with only my second grade students being exposed to phonics, 00:30:59.453 --> 00:31:03.100 do you know it reduced the number of students going 00:31:03.100 --> 00:31:05.620 into my RtI program in third grade by 50%? 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.013 That was pretty astounding. 00:31:08.619 --> 00:31:12.724 We also have begun looking at a lot of the foundation skills 00:31:12.724 --> 00:31:14.210 that our students don't have 00:31:14.469 --> 00:31:16.612 and creating programs where we're going back 00:31:16.612 --> 00:31:18.569 and teaching students the math facts, 00:31:18.959 --> 00:31:20.994 we're teaching them operations. 00:31:21.563 --> 00:31:22.853 Those things they've skimmed over, 00:31:22.996 --> 00:31:24.885 but they no longer have the foundations 00:31:24.957 --> 00:31:27.023 and it was killing our kids in middle school. 00:31:28.854 --> 00:31:30.242 Multiple assessments, 00:31:30.311 --> 00:31:31.667 yes, I believe in assessments. 00:31:32.515 --> 00:31:33.980 Very, very strongly. 00:31:34.229 --> 00:31:36.095 However, we 00:31:36.095 --> 00:31:38.812 no longer talk about the STAAR and EOC. 00:31:38.812 --> 00:31:42.000 I gave an administrative directive in my district three 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.349 years ago no teacher could mention. 00:31:43.495 --> 00:31:46.623 STAAR or EOC to a child all year long. 00:31:46.943 --> 00:31:49.356 It better not go on a worksheet that went home. 00:31:50.520 --> 00:31:52.098 We don't give benchmark testing. 00:31:52.423 --> 00:31:53.911 Imagine, we have gone 00:31:53.911 --> 00:31:56.063 back to nine-week assessments testing students 00:31:56.063 --> 00:31:58.870 based on what we instructed that nine weeks. 00:31:59.371 --> 00:32:00.799 However, the caveat is 00:32:01.187 --> 00:32:03.781 a certain percent have to be level two questions, 00:32:03.854 --> 00:32:05.540 a certain percent have to be level three. 00:32:06.141 --> 00:32:08.797 It is consistent across the grade level 00:32:09.010 --> 00:32:11.517 or across the subject area in high school. 00:32:11.875 --> 00:32:13.950 It is amazing what is happening, 00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:16.324 because you see our teachers truly learning 00:32:16.690 --> 00:32:18.276 what higher level thinking is. 00:32:18.276 --> 00:32:20.646 They're having to develop those test 00:32:20.646 --> 00:32:22.745 and teach to those test that they are developing. 00:32:23.454 --> 00:32:24.884 We use authentic assessment 00:32:24.891 --> 00:32:26.464 and diagnostic test. 00:32:27.077 --> 00:32:27.924 The next item, 00:32:27.924 --> 00:32:28.674 digital learning. 00:32:29.287 --> 00:32:31.896 Integrating digital learning in our classrooms. 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.761 So powerful. 00:32:33.820 --> 00:32:35.224 It doesn't replace the teacher, 00:32:35.481 --> 00:32:36.360 however, it has 00:32:36.360 --> 00:32:39.033 brought the world into our classrooms 00:32:39.471 --> 00:32:41.988 and is so individualized to where students 00:32:41.988 --> 00:32:45.245 can continue to work on what they need to work on 00:32:45.357 --> 00:32:47.021 and do it independently. 00:32:47.828 --> 00:32:50.445 We also have spent a great deal of time teaching 00:32:50.445 --> 00:32:51.574 our teachers how to integrate. 00:32:51.574 --> 00:32:53.957 You can't integrate digital learning if your teachers 00:32:53.957 --> 00:32:54.922 don't know how. 00:32:55.284 --> 00:32:56.874 We've developed competencies, 00:32:56.874 --> 00:32:58.663 showcase training, 00:32:58.663 --> 00:33:00.439 all sorts of things to help them. 00:33:01.194 --> 00:33:03.360 Next, transformation. 00:33:04.011 --> 00:33:05.811 We no longer have improvement plans. 00:33:06.286 --> 00:33:07.184 In TEA, 00:33:07.184 --> 00:33:10.723 I still meet all the requirements that are in law. 00:33:10.941 --> 00:33:12.819 We do not call them improvement plans, 00:33:12.819 --> 00:33:15.097 we call them 21st Century learning plans 00:33:15.754 --> 00:33:19.282 designed around the concepts in this document. 00:33:19.614 --> 00:33:23.055 We have identified the standards that our students 00:33:23.055 --> 00:33:24.099 have gaps. 00:33:24.313 --> 00:33:27.634 All of our strategies focus on standards 00:33:27.638 --> 00:33:30.366 and we're using these different areas to address 00:33:30.366 --> 00:33:31.396 those standards. 00:33:31.896 --> 00:33:33.740 It is working like a charm. 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:35.828 I don't know if you've looked at all the requirements 00:33:35.828 --> 00:33:37.775 for our campus improvement plan, 00:33:37.775 --> 00:33:39.069 but it would choke a horse. 00:33:40.632 --> 00:33:41.801 We developed an appendix 00:33:41.801 --> 00:33:43.376 and we meet all the requirements, 00:33:43.493 --> 00:33:46.641 I can send them to TEA if you need to look at it 00:33:46.641 --> 00:33:47.463 and check it off. 00:33:48.638 --> 00:33:50.025 It has truly made a difference 00:33:50.025 --> 00:33:51.597 because we have the same goals 00:33:52.035 --> 00:33:54.551 and the same objectives for all the campuses 00:33:54.872 --> 00:33:56.731 and the district. 00:33:57.013 --> 00:33:58.387 The strategies are different, 00:33:58.387 --> 00:33:59.488 depending on the campus. 00:34:00.156 --> 00:34:01.948 Finally, accountability. 00:34:02.630 --> 00:34:05.394 I believe in accountability, strongly. 00:34:05.788 --> 00:34:07.940 However, more than 00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:09.242 just a test. 00:34:09.670 --> 00:34:11.727 The community engagement piece has brought 00:34:11.727 --> 00:34:14.006 our parents alive. 00:34:14.052 --> 00:34:14.846 As a matter of fact, 00:34:14.846 --> 00:34:16.970 when we began working on the rating this year, 00:34:16.970 --> 00:34:20.345 our parents wanted to give us much higher scores than 00:34:20.345 --> 00:34:22.514 we felt we needed to give ourselves. 00:34:23.123 --> 00:34:24.406 That has been tremendous. 00:34:24.554 --> 00:34:25.662 Student portfolios. 00:34:25.915 --> 00:34:28.669 We do a lot of community service. 00:34:28.669 --> 00:34:31.175 Every organization has to adopt something 00:34:31.219 --> 00:34:35.447 within the community to work with to enhance our community. 00:34:35.700 --> 00:34:36.956 Of course, 00:34:36.956 --> 00:34:37.757 extra curricular. 00:34:37.757 --> 00:34:39.137 Look what we just witnessed today. 00:34:39.810 --> 00:34:44.123 I will end by one short, revised personal story that has 00:34:44.123 --> 00:34:45.483 affirmed what I do. 00:34:46.708 --> 00:34:49.605 My husband has decided after 43 years, 00:34:49.605 --> 00:34:52.205 Mary Ann you need a plan for when you retire. 00:34:53.555 --> 00:34:56.151 He decided that I needed to learn to play golf. 00:34:57.317 --> 00:34:58.978 Now, I am a fine arts person. 00:34:59.720 --> 00:35:00.860 I played music, 00:35:00.870 --> 00:35:01.869 I twirled, 00:35:01.947 --> 00:35:03.060 I did the piano, 00:35:03.107 --> 00:35:04.041 I did the organ, 00:35:04.059 --> 00:35:05.160 I did all that stuff. 00:35:05.203 --> 00:35:06.503 I'm not an athlete. 00:35:06.503 --> 00:35:07.751 I never did any of that. 00:35:08.647 --> 00:35:09.648 I ask you all, 00:35:09.937 --> 00:35:12.398 the little white ball sits on the ground, 00:35:12.652 --> 00:35:14.265 how hard could that be? 00:35:14.695 --> 00:35:16.237 (laughter) 00:35:16.819 --> 00:35:18.581 I said, "okay, I can do that." 00:35:18.581 --> 00:35:19.552 It just sits there. 00:35:19.552 --> 00:35:20.671 All I you do is swing. 00:35:21.198 --> 00:35:23.516 I want you to know I have played the most beautiful game 00:35:23.516 --> 00:35:26.300 of croquet you have ever seen in your entire life. 00:35:27.493 --> 00:35:29.024 My husband very gently said, 00:35:29.024 --> 00:35:30.797 Mary Ann, I think 00:35:30.797 --> 00:35:32.015 maybe you need lessons. 00:35:32.304 --> 00:35:33.771 Yeah, you think. 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.098 He got me lessons with a golf pro. 00:35:37.527 --> 00:35:38.419 I went out there, 00:35:38.419 --> 00:35:39.320 I had my lessons. 00:35:39.496 --> 00:35:40.262 Of course, the first 00:35:40.262 --> 00:35:43.570 thing he tells me is, "you gotta balance, like when you're 00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:44.642 on the basketball court." 00:35:44.796 --> 00:35:45.952 I never played basketball 00:35:45.952 --> 00:35:47.424 so that went right over my head. 00:35:48.604 --> 00:35:50.984 He tried to relate to playing softball, 00:35:51.241 --> 00:35:52.202 well, I had never done that, 00:35:52.313 --> 00:35:53.882 so that didn't help me at all. 00:35:55.292 --> 00:35:56.360 Well, I took lessons. 00:35:56.721 --> 00:35:57.486 I practiced 00:35:57.697 --> 00:35:58.581 and I practiced. 00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:00.095 Weekends, I practiced, 00:36:00.868 --> 00:36:04.525 I mean when it was 100 degrees outside late in the afternoon 00:36:04.525 --> 00:36:06.175 I would be out there practicing. 00:36:06.782 --> 00:36:09.833 We're talking months of practice 00:36:10.082 --> 00:36:10.942 and lessons. 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.358 This one beautiful day my husband says let's go out 00:36:14.358 --> 00:36:15.157 on the course. 00:36:15.902 --> 00:36:16.831 Fairway Three, 00:36:17.013 --> 00:36:18.625 I shall never forget. 00:36:19.158 --> 00:36:22.571 He tees off the most beautiful shot you have seen in your 00:36:22.571 --> 00:36:23.510 entire life. 00:36:24.352 --> 00:36:25.292 I thought, 'ok, 00:36:25.474 --> 00:36:26.266 I can do this.' 00:36:26.806 --> 00:36:28.311 I got up to my little red tee, 00:36:28.469 --> 00:36:29.805 I had everything ready, 00:36:29.805 --> 00:36:30.780 everything lined up, 00:36:31.197 --> 00:36:32.960 I stood behind like I'm supposed to. 00:36:33.464 --> 00:36:35.587 I got all lined up and ready to go 00:36:35.845 --> 00:36:36.781 and I swung. 00:36:38.281 --> 00:36:39.505 It was abysmal. 00:36:40.680 --> 00:36:41.938 I walked out to the cart, 00:36:42.471 --> 00:36:43.434 I sat down 00:36:43.552 --> 00:36:45.261 and burst into tears. 00:36:45.944 --> 00:36:46.906 Grown woman, 00:36:47.056 --> 00:36:47.990 Fairway Three, 00:36:48.022 --> 00:36:49.783 in the cart, crying. 00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:52.043 I looked at my husband 00:36:52.043 --> 00:36:52.708 and said 00:36:52.708 --> 00:36:53.500 do you know, 00:36:53.875 --> 00:36:55.089 I can cook, 00:36:55.310 --> 00:36:56.531 I can play the piano, 00:36:56.537 --> 00:36:58.035 I can play the organ, 00:36:58.218 --> 00:37:00.880 I was a fabulous first grade teacher 00:37:00.957 --> 00:37:02.919 and I'm a pretty good superintendent. 00:37:03.385 --> 00:37:07.420 Why do I keep doing something that makes me feel so badly 00:37:07.420 --> 00:37:08.523 about myself? 00:37:09.264 --> 00:37:11.256 Wow. It hit me. 00:37:12.136 --> 00:37:15.280 I then knew I was on the right path. 00:37:15.643 --> 00:37:18.935 I thought how many kids have I destroyed, 00:37:19.509 --> 00:37:22.954 because they couldn't do one test. 00:37:24.161 --> 00:37:25.772 I'm here to beg you, 00:37:25.959 --> 00:37:29.527 and that's my message with whoever will listen to me, 00:37:30.204 --> 00:37:32.434 we have to stop this craziness. 00:37:32.901 --> 00:37:34.353 This is wrong. 00:37:34.353 --> 00:37:35.034 It's wrong for kids 00:37:35.109 --> 00:37:36.261 and it's wrong for education, 00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:38.289 and it's wrong for Texas. 00:37:38.786 --> 00:37:41.475 Our businesses say they aren't prepared for business. 00:37:41.584 --> 00:37:44.755 Our colleges say they aren't prepared for colleges. 00:37:45.152 --> 00:37:48.067 We need to stop what we're doing; it's not working. 00:37:48.816 --> 00:37:50.168 There is something better. 00:37:50.357 --> 00:37:55.000 I can tell you TASA has so many people working to try 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.166 to move us in a new direction 00:37:57.167 --> 00:38:00.870 and I'm so thrilled to hear that you are so open to realize 00:38:01.335 --> 00:38:02.793 it's the 21st century. 00:38:02.902 --> 00:38:05.732 It's time for us to move to something new 00:38:05.743 --> 00:38:06.536 and better. 00:38:06.938 --> 00:38:09.945 I'm sorry there's not a little red light there that tells me 00:38:09.945 --> 00:38:10.909 to be quiet. 00:38:11.552 --> 00:38:12.971 Once again, 00:38:13.081 --> 00:38:15.037 thank you so very much for this opportunity. 00:38:16.041 --> 00:38:19.748 (applause) 00:38:30.971 --> 00:38:32.367 Thank you. 00:38:36.304 --> 00:38:38.346 I will leave you with a couple of handouts. 00:38:38.368 --> 00:38:40.353 I have learned a long time ago don't hand it out 00:38:40.353 --> 00:38:41.358 before you talk 00:38:41.358 --> 00:38:42.620 or everyone looks at your handout. 00:38:43.551 --> 00:38:45.154 The first one's just the notes that I covered. 00:38:45.154 --> 00:38:47.930 I wrote some articles over the last three years 00:38:47.930 --> 00:38:49.643 and I wrote them in layman's terms 00:38:49.952 --> 00:38:51.377 so grandmothers could understand 00:38:51.756 --> 00:38:53.918 and people next door could understand 00:38:53.979 --> 00:38:55.205 what we're dealing with. 00:38:55.272 --> 00:38:56.746 I'm going to leave these here 00:38:56.843 --> 00:38:59.153 and they can be distributed whenever. 00:38:59.906 --> 00:39:00.611 Thank you, Mary Ann. 00:39:00.611 --> 00:39:01.971 Really appreciate your time this morning 00:39:01.971 --> 00:39:03.225 and sharing your thoughts 00:39:03.389 --> 00:39:05.207 and words of wisdom. 00:39:05.342 --> 00:39:06.144 We really appreciate it. 00:39:06.144 --> 00:39:07.133 Thank you. 00:39:07.133 --> 00:39:09.789 Congratulations for being superintendent of the year. 00:39:09.789 --> 00:39:10.849 That's very impressive. 00:39:11.498 --> 00:39:12.182 Very impressive. 00:39:12.182 --> 00:39:13.714 Thank you for serving our children so well. 00:39:14.021 --> 00:39:15.821 (applause) 00:39:15.821 --> 00:39:16.559 Absolutely. 00:39:18.966 --> 00:39:20.135 Yes, Mr. Ratliff. 00:39:21.167 --> 00:39:21.905 I just want y'all to know, 00:39:21.905 --> 00:39:23.296 Mary Ann lives in my district 00:39:23.464 --> 00:39:26.052 and for the last six years, has been 00:39:26.052 --> 00:39:27.377 one of my shoulder angels 00:39:27.377 --> 00:39:30.680 to help me understand the role I play here on the board 00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:33.203 and some of the granularity 00:39:33.365 --> 00:39:34.144 of the details. 00:39:34.144 --> 00:39:36.909 House Bill Five would not have been possible for me 00:39:37.005 --> 00:39:38.177 without people like Mary Ann. 00:39:39.072 --> 00:39:40.501 There are a lot of deserving superintendants 00:39:40.501 --> 00:39:41.259 around the state, 00:39:41.259 --> 00:39:42.074 but I assure you, 00:39:42.074 --> 00:39:43.961 there is no one more deserving than Mary Ann Whitaker 00:39:43.961 --> 00:39:44.921 to get that award. 00:39:44.962 --> 00:39:45.928 Thank you for coming. 00:39:46.406 --> 00:39:47.450 Absolutely, thank you. 00:39:48.263 --> 00:39:50.804 Now we have Texas Teacher of the Year. 00:39:51.456 --> 00:39:53.097 I'm hoping I say this correctly, 00:39:53.097 --> 00:39:54.357 I'm going to do my best. 00:39:55.146 --> 00:39:59.221 Revathi Balakrishnan. 00:39:59.658 --> 00:40:00.702 Did I get close? 00:40:01.277 --> 00:40:03.327 I did, yes, wonderful. 00:40:04.046 --> 00:40:04.961 Congratulations, 00:40:04.961 --> 00:40:06.224 and we're so happy to have you. 00:40:06.291 --> 00:40:07.594 Thank you, thank you. 00:40:07.862 --> 00:40:10.316 (applause) 00:40:13.396 --> 00:40:14.188 Do I push something? 00:40:14.188 --> 00:40:14.786 No, you're 00:40:14.786 --> 00:40:15.408 ready to go. 00:40:16.818 --> 00:40:18.161 Well, Ms. Whitaker, 00:40:18.161 --> 00:40:19.180 you took my speech. 00:40:20.655 --> 00:40:23.742 I had to recalibrate while she was talking. 00:40:25.421 --> 00:40:27.843 I'd like to thank the State Board of Education for inviting 00:40:27.859 --> 00:40:28.619 me here. 00:40:29.831 --> 00:40:32.606 I will probably be the only Texas Teacher of the Year 00:40:32.606 --> 00:40:34.056 without a Texan accent. 00:40:35.899 --> 00:40:37.467 You're going to have to put up with me for a year. 00:40:41.111 --> 00:40:41.910 I am a talented 00:40:41.910 --> 00:40:44.084 and gifted specialist at Patsy Sommer Elementary 00:40:44.084 --> 00:40:45.389 in Round Rock ISD. 00:40:46.003 --> 00:40:49.942 I teach the top five percent of students in my school. 00:40:51.944 --> 00:40:54.840 I was going to talk to you about standardized testing 00:40:55.354 --> 00:40:57.917 because it creates havoc in my classroom. 00:40:58.785 --> 00:41:00.294 My students are perfectionist 00:41:01.011 --> 00:41:04.320 and if they don't get 49 out of 50 questions right, 00:41:05.252 --> 00:41:07.066 I need the counselor in my classroom. 00:41:09.531 --> 00:41:11.684 If this can happen in a gifted classroom, 00:41:11.902 --> 00:41:16.139 I can only imagine what happening in the regular classrooms. 00:41:18.095 --> 00:41:20.911 I'm not here to talk to you about the perils 00:41:20.987 --> 00:41:22.208 of standardized testing, 00:41:22.394 --> 00:41:23.719 because you've heard enough about it, 00:41:23.979 --> 00:41:26.503 except for the fact that it stresses teachers out. 00:41:26.874 --> 00:41:29.325 The stress it stresses students out 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.550 and the stress levels in all the schools is much more than 00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:35.503 the California earthquake fault line. 00:41:37.971 --> 00:41:41.159 I am going to talk to you about what we can not do 00:41:41.167 --> 00:41:43.680 as teachers because of standardized testing. 00:41:47.048 --> 00:41:52.048 Teachers can not, for example, talk to students about the new biggest 00:41:54.163 --> 00:41:57.064 prime number that was discovered yesterday. 00:41:58.303 --> 00:42:02.647 That is 2 raised to 78 million, 504 thousand something 00:42:03.266 --> 00:42:04.227 minus one. 00:42:05.577 --> 00:42:09.813 We can not have the time to discuss why minus one 00:42:11.705 --> 00:42:16.705 or students don't have the time to ask, "why not plus one?'" 00:42:19.145 --> 00:42:20.830 There is no time for critical thinking, 00:42:21.229 --> 00:42:24.548 because we are jumping from TEK to TEK trying to make sure 00:42:24.548 --> 00:42:26.877 that we are covering everything 00:42:26.877 --> 00:42:29.534 and getting ready for March and April. 00:42:30.933 --> 00:42:32.010 As she pointed out, 00:42:32.165 --> 00:42:36.961 35, 45 pages of TEKS does not give time 00:42:36.961 --> 00:42:41.226 for the classroom teacher to expand the world of learning 00:42:41.298 --> 00:42:43.807 for the students outside the classroom. 00:42:46.263 --> 00:42:49.090 Ten years, nine years ago, 00:42:49.243 --> 00:42:50.635 I approached my principal, 00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:53.812 because I wanted to teach Shakespeare to my 4th 00:42:53.812 --> 00:42:55.082 and 5th grade students. 00:42:56.088 --> 00:42:59.359 She told me I want to know what TEKS this covers. 00:43:00.438 --> 00:43:01.480 That was easy. 00:43:01.635 --> 00:43:03.261 I printed out the 5th grade TEKS, 00:43:03.697 --> 00:43:06.308 highlighted everything on the ELA TEKS 00:43:06.531 --> 00:43:07.718 and said, "here you go." 00:43:09.406 --> 00:43:11.558 With a $5 copy of Macbeth, 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.620 I can teach the entire English Language Arts TEKS 00:43:15.620 --> 00:43:17.417 from third grade to twelfth grade. 00:43:18.188 --> 00:43:19.697 I do not need anything else. 00:43:20.670 --> 00:43:21.642 She granted 00:43:21.693 --> 00:43:25.537 and said, "just make sure they pass the TAKS." 00:43:27.678 --> 00:43:31.555 Wouldn't it be great if our students can actually 00:43:31.646 --> 00:43:33.469 listen to the State of the Union address 00:43:34.491 --> 00:43:36.397 and compare the President's speech 00:43:36.873 --> 00:43:40.507 to the speech made by Mark Anthony in Julius Caesar? 00:43:41.453 --> 00:43:43.873 Wouldn't it be great if they could savor the language 00:43:44.378 --> 00:43:45.341 of Shakespeare, 00:43:45.594 --> 00:43:46.327 and Wordsworth, 00:43:46.349 --> 00:43:47.619 and Longfellow? 00:43:48.213 --> 00:43:50.364 Wouldn't it be great if they can compare China 00:43:50.765 --> 00:43:54.584 and the Chairman Mao to the Israeli Palestinian Conflict 00:43:55.137 --> 00:43:57.045 to Apartheid in South Africa 00:43:57.873 --> 00:44:01.206 and learn about the negative affects of racial prejudices 00:44:02.024 --> 00:44:02.999 in history 00:44:03.285 --> 00:44:06.877 and apply it to the real world so that we do not have 00:44:06.877 --> 00:44:08.615 the current racial prejudices? 00:44:09.474 --> 00:44:10.772 Well, guess what? 00:44:10.992 --> 00:44:12.898 All of this happens in my classroom. 00:44:14.549 --> 00:44:16.317 We discuss all of this in my classroom, 00:44:16.317 --> 00:44:19.180 because I do not teach to the STAAR. 00:44:20.578 --> 00:44:22.395 There's a certain amount of stress in me, 00:44:23.262 --> 00:44:25.213 because I'm just waiting for that one year 00:44:26.198 --> 00:44:29.821 when one of my students does not get a level 3. 00:44:31.476 --> 00:44:34.168 It has never happened so far in the past nine years 00:44:34.533 --> 00:44:35.627 all of my students, 00:44:36.303 --> 00:44:38.750 if they have not aced that TAKS or the STAAR, 00:44:39.077 --> 00:44:40.626 they've come very close to it. 00:44:41.339 --> 00:44:42.775 You know what I tell my students? 00:44:44.236 --> 00:44:46.737 Just get this over with so that we can get 00:44:46.737 --> 00:44:47.819 on to better things. 00:44:50.423 --> 00:44:54.665 What I want for this to happen is for every student 00:44:54.665 --> 00:44:57.611 in Texas to get that excitement of learning. 00:44:58.125 --> 00:45:00.718 I want every child in every hallway 00:45:00.769 --> 00:45:04.792 and every school in Texas to say, "I can not wait to go 00:45:04.792 --> 00:45:05.781 to school today. 00:45:06.624 --> 00:45:09.311 I can not wait to learn from authentic text. 00:45:09.958 --> 00:45:13.149 I can not wait to learn what is going on in the real world 00:45:13.229 --> 00:45:16.790 and I can not wait to see how my learning is applied 00:45:16.790 --> 00:45:17.805 to the real world." 00:45:18.903 --> 00:45:19.982 With standardized testing, 00:45:20.938 --> 00:45:22.265 our hands are tied. 00:45:22.629 --> 00:45:25.107 I'm not saying that standardized testing should be 00:45:25.107 --> 00:45:26.326 eliminated completely, 00:45:26.650 --> 00:45:28.470 but it should be reduced definitely. 00:45:28.470 --> 00:45:32.025 So that teachers in every school district have the time 00:45:32.249 --> 00:45:35.175 to create that excitement in learning. 00:45:36.574 --> 00:45:40.310 Remember what Sir Ken Robinson said about 16 billion 00:45:40.357 --> 00:45:44.318 going into testing at the Tulsa Mid-Winter Conference? 00:45:44.540 --> 00:45:46.123 Let's take that that 16 billion 00:45:46.993 --> 00:45:48.898 and put it towards teacher training 00:45:50.033 --> 00:45:54.164 and put it towards teacher mentoring, so that we can grow 00:45:54.249 --> 00:45:58.219 good teachers, so that we can grow good students. 00:45:59.638 --> 00:46:03.137 That is where I think we will be really successful 00:46:03.137 --> 00:46:05.519 in growing good students, 00:46:05.663 --> 00:46:09.593 successful students so that Texas will become, 00:46:10.205 --> 00:46:12.344 like in our school district, we call it the 00:46:12.344 --> 00:46:13.956 Destination District, 00:46:15.038 --> 00:46:18.322 So that Texas will become the destination state for students 00:46:18.610 --> 00:46:20.152 and for businesses. 00:46:20.692 --> 00:46:21.735 Thank you very much. 00:46:21.958 --> 00:46:25.037 (applause) 00:46:38.533 --> 00:46:40.126 We have one more teacher with us, 00:46:40.205 --> 00:46:42.000 Martha Saucedo. 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.976 She's the Secondary Teacher of the Year. 00:46:45.155 --> 00:46:48.068 (applause) 00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:53.472 Good morning. 00:46:54.010 --> 00:46:58.674 Those are two amazing speeches to follow, so I'm going to try 00:46:58.674 --> 00:47:00.079 to do my very best here. 00:47:01.031 --> 00:47:03.307 Good morning to the State Board of Education. 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.297 My name is Martha Saucedo, 00:47:05.297 --> 00:47:08.514 and I'm the 2016 secondary teacher of the year. 00:47:09.295 --> 00:47:12.597 I'd like to begin by telling you how grateful I am 00:47:12.597 --> 00:47:13.766 to be here today 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.851 and honored to have the opportunity to represent 00:47:16.863 --> 00:47:17.898 Texas teachers. 00:47:19.447 --> 00:47:22.377 I am an English teacher, a math teacher, 00:47:22.377 --> 00:47:23.769 a science teacher, 00:47:24.608 --> 00:47:25.974 and a history teacher. 00:47:26.900 --> 00:47:28.761 Although my official title 00:47:29.057 --> 00:47:31.430 is a family consumer science teacher. 00:47:32.540 --> 00:47:35.311 (applause) 00:47:38.295 --> 00:47:39.792 I teach Principles of Human Services 00:47:40.333 --> 00:47:43.729 Sports and Marketing Entertainment, 00:47:44.085 --> 00:47:44.882 Fashion Design, 00:47:45.286 --> 00:47:47.090 and Counseling in Mental Health, 00:47:47.311 --> 00:47:49.312 which my students like to refer to as their 00:47:49.322 --> 00:47:50.221 'psychology class.' 00:47:52.222 --> 00:47:54.070 I'm one of those hands-on teachers. 00:47:54.396 --> 00:47:56.253 Elective classes; that's easy for us. 00:47:56.825 --> 00:47:57.705 I'm a real world 00:47:57.705 --> 00:48:00.249 and I want to connect my students to the real world. 00:48:01.076 --> 00:48:02.935 In my Human Services class, 00:48:03.188 --> 00:48:05.044 it's about getting out into the community. 00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:07.350 Meeting members of the community 00:48:07.350 --> 00:48:09.866 and finding out what the community members want. 00:48:09.866 --> 00:48:12.046 What business want from my students. 00:48:12.258 --> 00:48:15.253 It's about connecting them to centers in town 00:48:15.404 --> 00:48:17.254 and learning about relationships 00:48:17.254 --> 00:48:19.067 and helping out their community. 00:48:19.542 --> 00:48:20.876 In my Fashion Design class, 00:48:21.310 --> 00:48:23.815 it's their newspaper design dresses that we make. 00:48:23.815 --> 00:48:25.127 We combine with Bealls, 00:48:25.127 --> 00:48:26.380 the department store, 00:48:26.677 --> 00:48:28.917 and they display the girls' and boys' 00:48:29.713 --> 00:48:32.088 outfits out in the front window, 00:48:32.177 --> 00:48:33.092 and they love that. 00:48:33.138 --> 00:48:34.153 It's in my mental- 00:48:34.153 --> 00:48:36.183 in my psychology class 00:48:36.409 --> 00:48:37.638 and it's the connection we have 00:48:37.638 --> 00:48:39.920 with the West Texas Rehab Center 00:48:39.965 --> 00:48:41.845 and how we do a little Q&A with them 00:48:41.845 --> 00:48:44.630 and how my students get to meet all these different types 00:48:44.638 --> 00:48:45.194 of therapist. 00:48:45.194 --> 00:48:47.005 They get to ask questions 00:48:47.212 --> 00:48:48.748 and get to learn about those jobs. 00:48:48.748 --> 00:48:51.537 They learn about children that might have autism. 00:48:52.205 --> 00:48:54.562 They get to go through all of these experiments 00:48:54.611 --> 00:48:55.972 and it's exciting for them. 00:48:56.582 --> 00:48:57.945 In my Sports and Entertainment class, 00:48:58.354 --> 00:49:01.752 it's about the connection we have with the San Antonio Spurs 00:49:02.151 --> 00:49:04.236 and we get to come up here to San Antonio 00:49:04.484 --> 00:49:05.689 and we meet the team, 00:49:05.689 --> 00:49:07.167 and we do a Q&A with them, 00:49:07.578 --> 00:49:10.617 and my students get real life situations 00:49:10.783 --> 00:49:12.092 and they love that. 00:49:13.120 --> 00:49:16.656 I'm also an FCCLA advisor, 00:49:17.271 --> 00:49:19.397 all the red jackets that you see over there. 00:49:19.397 --> 00:49:21.134 (applause) 00:49:22.124 --> 00:49:24.690 FCCLA is a national career and technical 00:49:24.718 --> 00:49:27.058 student-led organization. 00:49:27.410 --> 00:49:29.582 We're about promoting personal growth 00:49:29.809 --> 00:49:31.574 and teaching them to be leaders. 00:49:32.410 --> 00:49:35.224 Developing career preparation for these students. 00:49:36.214 --> 00:49:39.545 For the last eight years as a FCCLA advisor, 00:49:39.878 --> 00:49:41.008 I have seen that. 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:43.126 Four years ago, 00:49:43.685 --> 00:49:45.386 I took seven freshman 00:49:45.859 --> 00:49:48.153 and said I think you guys would be really good 00:49:48.153 --> 00:49:51.004 at something called "parliamentary procedure." 00:49:51.338 --> 00:49:53.462 They had no idea what I was talking about. 00:49:53.899 --> 00:49:55.165 Mr. Overby does now. 00:49:56.054 --> 00:49:57.176 I could use that. 00:49:59.843 --> 00:50:01.177 I took these freshman 00:50:01.339 --> 00:50:04.045 and I convinced them that with this they would 00:50:04.302 --> 00:50:08.251 learn so many things that would be so beneficial to them. 00:50:08.542 --> 00:50:11.678 Despite a liver transplant in one of them, 00:50:12.128 --> 00:50:13.624 despite an adoption, 00:50:14.033 --> 00:50:15.471 despite low income, 00:50:15.993 --> 00:50:19.472 those seven students are now seven seniors 00:50:19.723 --> 00:50:22.580 that Mr. Overby has now worked with as well. 00:50:23.704 --> 00:50:26.096 I connect the real world to my students all the way 00:50:26.096 --> 00:50:27.031 in Brady, Texas 00:50:27.031 --> 00:50:28.248 and I took him there. 00:50:29.589 --> 00:50:32.471 Those students have competed at the regional level, 00:50:32.767 --> 00:50:34.455 they've competed at the state level 00:50:35.352 --> 00:50:36.399 and just this last summer, 00:50:36.416 --> 00:50:39.652 they competed at the national level in Washington, D.C. 00:50:40.055 --> 00:50:41.545 where they represented Texas 00:50:41.710 --> 00:50:43.903 with a gold metal and a silver metal. 00:50:44.363 --> 00:50:47.872 (applause) 00:50:51.110 --> 00:50:52.430 I will tell you this, 00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:54.168 despite all of the adversities 00:50:54.252 --> 00:50:55.805 that those kids have grown up in, 00:50:56.260 --> 00:50:57.469 seven seniors 00:50:58.339 --> 00:50:59.712 and elective classes, 00:51:00.336 --> 00:51:02.062 doing CTE classes. 00:51:02.671 --> 00:51:05.493 Those seven seniors have all been accepted to college. 00:51:06.370 --> 00:51:09.750 Four of them are headed here to the University of Texas. 00:51:10.512 --> 00:51:12.099 One to Texas State 00:51:12.756 --> 00:51:15.705 and one to the University of Texas San Antonio 00:51:16.041 --> 00:51:18.646 and the last to Angelo State University 00:51:19.004 --> 00:51:22.897 where she will become a family consumer science teacher. 00:51:23.642 --> 00:51:27.043 (applause) 00:51:28.649 --> 00:51:29.898 As I came in today, 00:51:29.898 --> 00:51:30.827 I walked the hallways 00:51:30.827 --> 00:51:34.800 and saw the artwork by the amazing students 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:35.973 from around here. 00:51:36.466 --> 00:51:37.271 As I walked in, 00:51:37.271 --> 00:51:40.304 my heart fluttered when I saw the red jackets come by 00:51:40.304 --> 00:51:41.835 and I saw FCCLA 00:51:42.027 --> 00:51:44.626 Then I got to see FFA here as well. 00:51:45.425 --> 00:51:48.937 To be graced by this beautiful dancing here today. 00:51:50.054 --> 00:51:51.677 State Board of Education, 00:51:52.287 --> 00:51:54.271 elective classes are important. 00:51:55.154 --> 00:51:59.447 We do teach Math, Science, English and History. 00:52:00.195 --> 00:52:03.221 Please consider us when you talk about funding. 00:52:03.746 --> 00:52:06.874 Please consider us when you talk about cutting classes. 00:52:07.439 --> 00:52:10.070 We are connected to the real world for them. 00:52:11.269 --> 00:52:12.905 And, I want to leave you with this, 00:52:13.303 --> 00:52:15.910 if we tell our students who they have to be, 00:52:16.680 --> 00:52:19.698 we'll never know who they were meant to be. 00:52:20.179 --> 00:52:21.214 Thank you. 00:52:21.352 --> 00:52:24.769 (applause) 00:52:38.696 --> 00:52:40.224 That was wonderful, 00:52:40.544 --> 00:52:42.151 really, really appreciate. 00:52:44.319 --> 00:52:46.459 You've really honored us with your speeches today. 00:52:46.459 --> 00:52:48.582 We really appreciate your being here with us. 00:52:48.632 --> 00:52:50.348 Thank you so much for coming. 00:52:50.569 --> 00:52:53.616 It was really an honor to listen to all three presentations. 00:52:53.723 --> 00:52:55.346 It was wonderful. 00:52:55.628 --> 00:52:58.510 Alright, members, we're going to go to approval of the minutes. 00:52:59.242 --> 00:53:01.101 First item of business is the approval of the minutes for September 11, 2015 00:53:05.453 --> 00:53:07.825 for the November meeting, 2015. 00:53:08.434 --> 00:53:10.377 Are there any corrections to the minutes? 00:53:11.381 --> 00:53:16.381 Hearing none the minutes are approved as presented. 00:53:17.365 --> 00:53:19.374 Now, it's time for our resolutions 00:53:19.600 --> 00:53:20.475 and presentation. 00:53:20.498 --> 00:53:21.510 I believe Mr. Cortez, 00:53:21.510 --> 00:53:25.367 our Board Secretary will read those. 00:53:26.376 --> 00:53:28.908 First stop is the Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:53:28.908 --> 00:53:29.642 in Mathematics 00:53:29.642 --> 00:53:30.891 and Science Teaching. 00:53:33.170 --> 00:53:35.473 Members, you have resolutions on your desk. 00:53:41.750 --> 00:53:43.050 Yes, good morning. 00:53:43.418 --> 00:53:46.677 If we can get members Allen, 00:53:47.970 --> 00:53:49.142 Chair Bahorich, 00:53:49.525 --> 00:53:50.622 member Cargill, 00:53:51.318 --> 00:53:52.368 member Mercer 00:53:53.288 --> 00:53:54.778 and member Miller to the circle. 00:53:55.466 --> 00:53:58.549 If all of our Presidential Award for Excellence 00:53:58.571 --> 00:54:01.930 in Mathematics and Science Teaching recipients 00:54:02.123 --> 00:54:06.357 can join your member in our circle. 00:54:18.128 --> 00:54:19.933 As they're getting situated, 00:54:20.496 --> 00:54:21.460 are there any administrators 00:54:21.460 --> 00:54:24.649 or special guest accompanying our recipients today? 00:54:25.455 --> 00:54:28.313 If you're in the room, please stand to be recognized. 00:54:31.785 --> 00:54:33.439 Thank you all for being here with them today. 00:54:33.489 --> 00:54:36.837 (applause) 00:55:01.084 --> 00:55:04.431 (laughter) 00:55:04.907 --> 00:55:05.789 Alright. 00:55:06.554 --> 00:55:06.804 Good morning. 00:55:07.214 --> 00:55:07.561 I'm going to go ahead 00:55:07.561 --> 00:55:08.762 and read this resolution. 00:55:08.918 --> 00:55:10.268 Looks like everybody's situated. 00:55:10.872 --> 00:55:12.719 Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.977 in Mathematics and Science Teaching programs 00:55:15.137 --> 00:55:19.670 identifies outstanding science and mathematics teachers 00:55:20.062 --> 00:55:21.135 in each state 00:55:22.268 --> 00:55:24.281 and in the four U.S. jurisdictions. 00:55:25.293 --> 00:55:27.612 Whereas through state selection committees, 00:55:28.041 --> 00:55:30.097 five mathematics finalists, 00:55:30.255 --> 00:55:31.685 five science finalists 00:55:31.685 --> 00:55:33.362 were nominated as Texas finalists. 00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:37.406 Whereas these teachers become candidates 00:55:37.745 --> 00:55:38.943 for the Presidential Awards 00:55:39.484 --> 00:55:42.064 for Excellence in Mathematics and Science Teaching. 00:55:42.985 --> 00:55:46.879 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the 00:55:46.879 --> 00:55:48.118 State Board of Education 00:55:48.472 --> 00:55:50.885 does hereby extend its congratulations 00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:53.168 to Johnathan Clayton, 00:55:53.915 --> 00:55:55.885 Northbrook Senior High School, 00:55:57.912 --> 00:55:59.692 Spring Branch Independent School District, 00:56:00.042 --> 00:56:00.955 Houston, Texas. 00:56:01.739 --> 00:56:05.131 Darla Emerson, Lovejoy High School, 00:56:05.749 --> 00:56:07.428 Lovejoy Independent School District, 00:56:07.996 --> 00:56:09.236 Lucas, Texas. 00:56:10.610 --> 00:56:11.647 Rebecca Grant, 00:56:13.113 --> 00:56:14.434 Haggard Middle School, 00:56:14.742 --> 00:56:16.237 Plano Independent School District, 00:56:16.545 --> 00:56:17.495 Plano, Texas. 00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:19.845 (applause) 00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.028 Patty Hill, 00:56:21.302 --> 00:56:22.210 Kealing Middle School, 00:56:22.522 --> 00:56:24.304 Austin Independent School District, 00:56:24.538 --> 00:56:25.444 Austin, Texas. 00:56:25.525 --> 00:56:27.691 (applause) 00:56:27.741 --> 00:56:29.340 Penny Smeltzer, 00:56:30.445 --> 00:56:31.765 Westwood High School, 00:56:32.045 --> 00:56:34.054 Round Rock Independent School District, 00:56:34.587 --> 00:56:35.530 Austin, Texas. 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.156 For being named state finalist 00:56:39.393 --> 00:56:42.739 in Mathematics category in the 2015 Presidential Awards 00:56:44.201 --> 00:56:46.405 be it further resolved that the State Board of Education 00:56:46.405 --> 00:56:48.871 does hereby extend its congratulations 00:56:48.931 --> 00:56:50.951 to Carol Brown, 00:56:51.021 --> 00:56:52.021 Saint Mary's Hall, 00:56:52.021 --> 00:56:53.365 San Antonio, Texas. 00:56:54.902 --> 00:56:55.924 Sherry Cole, 00:56:56.167 --> 00:56:57.969 Seabrook Intermediate School, 00:56:58.390 --> 00:57:00.326 Clear Creek Independent School District, 00:57:00.533 --> 00:57:01.584 Seabrook, Texas. 00:57:03.939 --> 00:57:04.851 Cara Johnson, 00:57:05.537 --> 00:57:06.641 Allen High School, 00:57:06.885 --> 00:57:08.509 Allen Independent School District, 00:57:08.751 --> 00:57:09.597 Allen, Texas. 00:57:11.421 --> 00:57:12.521 Mark Massage, 00:57:13.194 --> 00:57:14.769 Westlake High School, 00:57:15.371 --> 00:57:16.885 Ennis Independent School District, 00:57:17.065 --> 00:57:18.109 Austin, Texas. 00:57:20.936 --> 00:57:22.089 Paula Shay-Starkes. 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:23.988 Phillis Wheatley High School, 00:57:23.988 --> 00:57:25.488 Houston Independent School district, 00:57:25.656 --> 00:57:26.733 Houston, Texas 00:57:27.120 --> 00:57:30.172 for being named the state finalist in the science category 00:57:30.608 --> 00:57:32.801 for the 2015 Presidential Awards. 00:57:33.508 --> 00:57:36.626 Be it further resolved that this resolution 00:57:37.261 --> 00:57:39.256 be presented to the aforementioned teachers 00:57:39.682 --> 00:57:41.055 for being identified as state 00:57:41.055 --> 00:57:44.299 and national finalist for the 2015 Presidential Awards 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.093 for Excellence in Mathematics 00:57:46.228 --> 00:57:47.923 and Science Teaching Programs 00:57:48.420 --> 00:57:51.152 and that a copy be included in the permanent records 00:57:51.354 --> 00:57:52.735 of the State Board of Education. 00:57:53.249 --> 00:57:58.249 Witness our signatures this 29th day of January 2016 00:57:58.428 --> 00:58:00.018 in Austin, Texas. 00:58:00.994 --> 00:58:02.650 Donna Bahorich, chair, 00:58:02.799 --> 00:58:05.054 Ruben Cortez Junior, Secretary. 00:58:05.568 --> 00:58:07.007 (applause) 00:58:07.007 --> 00:58:08.332 Congratulations. 00:58:08.789 --> 00:58:12.969 (applause) 00:58:30.740 --> 00:58:31.933 Madam Chair, 00:58:32.384 --> 00:58:35.430 I'd like to move that we adopt the resolution as presented. 00:58:49.394 --> 00:58:52.454 (applause) 00:58:56.924 --> 00:58:58.570 Did everybody get photographs already? 00:58:59.977 --> 00:59:02.137 I'm going to pass the mic over to Mr. Maynard. 00:59:02.526 --> 00:59:06.691 who will be presenting our CTE month resolution. 00:59:13.411 --> 00:59:14.344 Madam Chair, 00:59:14.344 --> 00:59:19.228 I'm going to defer to Ms. Kendall Stone, 00:59:19.539 --> 00:59:22.292 the state FCCLA president from Silsbee, Texas 00:59:22.408 --> 00:59:23.702 to present this resolution. 00:59:25.465 --> 00:59:26.781 Thank you, Mr. Maynard. 00:59:27.721 --> 00:59:31.168 Whereas February 1st through 29th 2016 00:59:31.385 --> 00:59:32.343 has been designated 00:59:32.443 --> 00:59:34.785 National Career and Technical Education month 00:59:35.378 --> 00:59:40.132 and whereas more than 1.2 million Texas secondary students 00:59:40.318 --> 00:59:42.785 are enrolled in one or more career and technical education 00:59:43.336 --> 00:59:47.291 CTE courses in 1,219 school districts 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:49.056 and charter schools throughout the state. 00:59:50.097 --> 00:59:51.688 Whereas career and technical 00:59:51.706 --> 00:59:54.628 education offers students the opportunity to gain academic, 00:59:54.982 --> 00:59:55.964 technical 00:59:56.299 --> 00:59:57.841 and employee ability skills necessary 00:59:57.841 --> 00:59:59.400 for true career readiness. 01:00:00.266 --> 01:00:01.631 Whereas students in career 01:00:01.631 --> 01:00:03.763 and technical education programs participate 01:00:03.763 --> 01:00:05.732 in authentic, meaningful experiences 01:00:05.972 --> 01:00:08.027 which improve the quality of their education 01:00:08.449 --> 01:00:10.867 by offering meaningful opportunities to apply 01:00:10.867 --> 01:00:11.950 academic knowledge 01:00:11.961 --> 01:00:13.702 and skills from across the curriculum. 01:00:14.274 --> 01:00:16.107 Whereas career and technical 01:00:16.107 --> 01:00:17.455 education is a vital 01:00:17.455 --> 01:00:19.981 and integral part of the foundation high school program 01:00:20.304 --> 01:00:22.948 offering students pathways to earn recognized endorsements, 01:00:23.193 --> 01:00:24.606 performance acknowledgements 01:00:24.747 --> 01:00:27.245 and industry-validated credentials. 01:00:28.745 --> 01:00:30.635 Whereas the state's nine career and technical 01:00:30.635 --> 01:00:33.242 educational student organizations BPA, 01:00:33.524 --> 01:00:34.281 DECA, 01:00:34.465 --> 01:00:36.192 Educators Rising or TAFE, 01:00:36.326 --> 01:00:37.563 FBLA, 01:00:37.563 --> 01:00:38.742 FCCLA, 01:00:39.110 --> 01:00:39.881 FFA, 01:00:39.972 --> 01:00:40.685 HOSA, 01:00:40.775 --> 01:00:41.688 Skills USA 01:00:41.741 --> 01:00:42.542 and TSA 01:00:42.798 --> 01:00:44.027 instills in their members the values, 01:00:44.222 --> 01:00:44.794 knowledge, 01:00:44.794 --> 01:00:48.274 and skills to be patriotic citizens prepared to fully engage 01:00:48.378 --> 01:00:50.077 as effective leaders in the formidable 01:00:50.077 --> 01:00:51.816 and noble task of self government 01:00:51.925 --> 01:00:53.518 and our constitutional republic. 01:00:54.172 --> 01:00:56.408 Whereas career and technical education 01:00:56.616 --> 01:00:59.219 provides students with career exploration opportunities 01:00:59.722 --> 01:01:01.442 early on in their educational experience 01:01:02.266 --> 01:01:03.772 which enables them to make informed 01:01:03.772 --> 01:01:06.052 and beneficial decisions about their academic coursework 01:01:06.250 --> 01:01:08.827 as well as pursuit of established programs of study 01:01:08.827 --> 01:01:09.840 and career pathways. 01:01:11.393 --> 01:01:13.119 Whereas leaders from business 01:01:13.142 --> 01:01:16.055 and industry nationwide report increasing challenges 01:01:16.189 --> 01:01:17.451 related to the skills gap 01:01:17.451 --> 01:01:20.133 and connecting qualified professionals with available 01:01:20.133 --> 01:01:23.010 careers in critical ingrown CTE-related fields. 01:01:23.595 --> 01:01:26.364 Whereas career and technical education 01:01:26.570 --> 01:01:29.062 prepare students for fulfilling careers by offering 01:01:29.062 --> 01:01:31.131 integrated programs of study that link secondary 01:01:31.131 --> 01:01:32.808 and postsecondary education 01:01:33.186 --> 01:01:35.824 and significantly contributes to college readiness 01:01:36.048 --> 01:01:40.048 and whereas insuring that employers have access to qualified 01:01:40.198 --> 01:01:42.697 workforce is a crucial step in insuring productivity 01:01:42.854 --> 01:01:43.913 among the business and 01:01:43.913 --> 01:01:45.923 industry communities as well as continued 01:01:45.932 --> 01:01:47.197 American economic growth 01:01:47.197 --> 01:01:48.537 and global competitiveness. 01:01:49.265 --> 01:01:50.184 Now, therefore, 01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:55.738 be it resolved that the State Board of Education, 01:01:56.031 --> 01:01:58.619 which has been designated by the Texas Legislature 01:01:58.619 --> 01:02:00.952 as the State Board for Career and Technical Education, 01:02:01.310 --> 01:02:04.432 does hereby proclaim February 1-29, 2016, 01:02:05.060 --> 01:02:06.638 as Career and Technical Education 01:02:06.638 --> 01:02:07.548 Month in Texas. 01:02:07.816 --> 01:02:10.121 Does hereby urge all Texans to become familiar 01:02:10.369 --> 01:02:13.295 with outstanding curriculum delivered by exceptional 01:02:13.393 --> 01:02:15.220 career and technical education teachers 01:02:15.220 --> 01:02:16.935 in communities across the state. 01:02:17.213 --> 01:02:18.558 Support and participate 01:02:18.596 --> 01:02:20.491 in these programs to enhance their individual skills 01:02:20.751 --> 01:02:21.790 and productivity. 01:02:22.844 --> 01:02:23.865 Thank you, Ms. Stone. 01:02:24.084 --> 01:02:25.947 Head of Chair, I move adoption. 01:02:27.768 --> 01:02:28.971 [Voiceover All those in favor say I. 01:02:29.188 --> 01:02:29.932 I. 01:02:30.571 --> 01:02:31.550 Congratulations, 01:02:31.550 --> 01:02:32.509 thank you so much. 01:02:32.814 --> 01:02:33.488 We really appreciate it. 01:02:33.488 --> 01:02:35.133 I would like just one by one, 01:02:36.263 --> 01:02:37.136 Mr. Maynard, 01:02:37.270 --> 01:02:39.321 would you mention the name and the organization 01:02:39.383 --> 01:02:41.001 then have each group stand up. 01:02:48.874 --> 01:02:50.357 That's FCCLA. 01:02:53.356 --> 01:02:54.275 Wonderful, thank you. 01:02:54.522 --> 01:02:56.253 Please say the name of the organization, 01:02:56.253 --> 01:02:56.931 that woud be great. 01:02:56.931 --> 01:02:57.970 (applause) 01:02:58.105 --> 01:03:00.105 You guys are distinctive in your red jackets. 01:03:00.453 --> 01:03:01.603 We really appreciate it. 01:03:09.433 --> 01:03:12.082 (applause) 01:03:18.652 --> 01:03:21.605 (applause) 01:03:26.522 --> 01:03:29.531 (applause) 01:03:31.515 --> 01:03:32.864 Did I get everyone? 01:03:35.615 --> 01:03:36.476 Terrific. 01:03:37.426 --> 01:03:38.288 Again, students, 01:03:38.288 --> 01:03:39.317 we so appreciate 01:03:39.329 --> 01:03:41.341 we had a wonderful dinner with you guys last night. 01:03:42.706 --> 01:03:44.839 Just a terrific time together 01:03:45.084 --> 01:03:48.747 and so impressive as we said last night. 01:03:49.373 --> 01:03:52.566 We were all talking about the future's in good hands 01:03:52.631 --> 01:03:55.080 with students like you coming through our system. 01:03:55.117 --> 01:03:56.223 We're very proud of each 01:03:56.223 --> 01:03:57.146 and everyone of you. 01:03:57.251 --> 01:03:59.507 Thank you so much for sharing an evening with us 01:04:00.180 --> 01:04:02.051 and for coming here this morning. 01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:04.753 to accept our congratulations 01:04:04.802 --> 01:04:06.225 and resolutions. 01:04:06.658 --> 01:04:08.212 Yes, Mr. Mercer. 01:04:08.522 --> 01:04:10.103 I just want to thank Mr. Maynard. 01:04:10.103 --> 01:04:11.248 This is the second year. 01:04:11.248 --> 01:04:15.364 When I speak throughout Texas I get a lot of concerns 01:04:15.364 --> 01:04:17.108 about the future of America 01:04:17.108 --> 01:04:18.046 and the future of Texas. 01:04:18.202 --> 01:04:20.669 The last two years with y'all at our table, 01:04:20.952 --> 01:04:22.772 I have no fear whatsoever. 01:04:22.808 --> 01:04:24.602 We have a great future thanks to y'all. 01:04:24.621 --> 01:04:25.369 God bless you. 01:04:25.369 --> 01:04:25.935 Thank you. 01:04:26.506 --> 01:04:28.356 (applause) 01:04:37.656 --> 01:04:38.849 Moving on with the agenda, 01:04:39.192 --> 01:04:39.829 members, 01:04:39.899 --> 01:04:43.335 no one signed up for public testimony today 01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:45.897 so we don't have anyone registered to speak. 01:04:47.887 --> 01:04:50.764 It has been requested that the remarks of the superintendent 01:04:50.764 --> 01:04:52.635 and teachers of the years be attached to the minutes 01:04:52.635 --> 01:04:53.452 of the meeting. 01:04:53.452 --> 01:04:54.541 Is there any objection to that? 01:04:55.908 --> 01:04:57.521 Hearing none, so ordered. 01:05:01.889 --> 01:05:02.533 Members, 01:05:02.837 --> 01:05:03.708 we're going to go ahead 01:05:03.708 --> 01:05:05.702 and move into the approval of the consent agenda. 01:05:06.108 --> 01:05:09.857 Please turn to IX in your agenda books 01:05:09.857 --> 01:05:12.985 which lists the items on the consent agenda 01:05:13.091 --> 01:05:14.477 there were no additional items. 01:05:15.118 --> 01:05:16.192 I'm gonna just read these, 01:05:16.985 --> 01:05:19.698 going through again it's Roman Numeral nine. 01:05:20.392 --> 01:05:21.743 Proposed Amendment Number One, 01:05:21.985 --> 01:05:24.765 proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74 01:05:24.951 --> 01:05:27.612 Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter A: Required Curriculum, 01:05:28.151 --> 01:05:32.178 74.5 - Academic Achievement Record Transcript 01:05:32.754 --> 01:05:34.333 and High School Diploma. 01:05:35.462 --> 01:05:36.265 Number Two, 01:05:36.396 --> 01:05:38.572 Proposed new 19 TAC 01:05:38.682 --> 01:05:39.652 Chapter 126 01:05:40.069 --> 01:05:40.780 Texas Essential Knowledge 01:05:40.780 --> 01:05:41.457 and Skills 01:05:41.457 --> 01:05:43.240 for Technology Applications, Subchapter D 01:05:43.982 --> 01:05:46.392 Other Technology Applications Courses, 01:05:47.004 --> 01:05:52.004 126.65: Advanced Placement Computer Science Principles, 01:05:52.578 --> 01:05:54.029 adopted 2016. 01:05:54.713 --> 01:05:55.358 Number Three, 01:05:55.358 --> 01:05:57.447 Recommendations Regarding Renewal of Instructional 01:05:57.447 --> 01:05:58.504 Materials Contracts. 01:05:59.388 --> 01:06:00.563 Number Four, 01:06:02.319 --> 01:06:03.753 Ratifications of the Purchases 01:06:03.753 --> 01:06:06.016 and Sales of the Investment Portfolio of the Permanent 01:06:06.016 --> 01:06:06.725 School Fund 01:06:06.725 --> 01:06:09.301 for the months of October and November 2015. 01:06:09.453 --> 01:06:13.010 There were no real estate items considered 01:06:13.261 --> 01:06:14.697 so, there's nothing on that agenda, 01:06:14.818 --> 01:06:16.761 and Ms. Miller you don't need to recuse yourself. 01:06:16.761 --> 01:06:17.881 This is for Number Five. 01:06:18.318 --> 01:06:18.966 Number Six, 01:06:19.249 --> 01:06:21.609 Decision on Absolute Return Investments. 01:06:22.282 --> 01:06:23.234 Number Seven, 01:06:23.415 --> 01:06:25.687 Recommendation for Appointments to the Boys Ranch 01:06:26.142 --> 01:06:27.108 Independent School District 01:06:27.108 --> 01:06:28.339 Board of Trustees. 01:06:29.957 --> 01:06:30.899 Number Eight, 01:06:31.097 --> 01:06:34.801 Recommendation for Appointments to the Randolph Field 01:06:34.911 --> 01:06:38.931 Independent School District Board of Trustees. 01:06:40.189 --> 01:06:42.808 Are members clear as to what we'll be approving of 01:06:42.808 --> 01:06:43.884 in the consent agenda? 01:06:45.144 --> 01:06:46.484 If there's no objection, 01:06:47.353 --> 01:06:48.687 the consent agenda is approved. 01:06:51.643 --> 01:06:52.381 Alright members, 01:06:52.381 --> 01:06:55.999 I'm going to turn this over to Mr. Ratliff. 01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:57.763 to go through our minutes. 01:06:58.527 --> 01:06:59.160 Ok, members, 01:06:59.160 --> 01:07:01.003 you have two handouts that say 01:07:01.385 --> 01:07:03.490 Court of the State Board of Education Committee 01:07:03.490 --> 01:07:04.456 of the Full Board. 01:07:05.142 --> 01:07:06.329 The one we'll be working from is 01:07:06.329 --> 01:07:10.548 the one at the bottom that says 127 2016. 01:07:10.809 --> 01:07:13.078 The other one is just the public testimony day. 01:07:14.632 --> 01:07:16.503 The first item for consideration 01:07:17.016 --> 01:07:18.694 on behalf of the Committee the Full Board, 01:07:19.166 --> 01:07:21.241 I move that the State Board of Education adopt the review 01:07:21.313 --> 01:07:24.451 of 19 TAC Chapter 66: 01:07:24.658 --> 01:07:25.098 State Adoption 01:07:25.098 --> 01:07:26.687 and Distribution of Instructional Materials. 01:07:26.734 --> 01:07:28.199 Subchapter A: General Provisions, 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.368 Subchapter B: State Adoption of Instructional Materials 01:07:30.388 --> 01:07:32.720 and Subchapter C: Local Operations. 01:07:36.052 --> 01:07:37.330 Are you ready for the question? 01:07:37.637 --> 01:07:38.911 All those in favor say I. 01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:39.973 I. 01:07:39.973 --> 01:07:40.824 Those opposed say no. 01:07:41.532 --> 01:07:42.554 I's have it. 01:07:43.252 --> 01:07:46.755 The review of 19 TAC Chapter 66: State Adoption 01:07:46.842 --> 01:07:48.920 Distribution of Instructional Materials. 01:07:48.952 --> 01:07:50.396 Subchapter A: General Provisions, 01:07:50.402 --> 01:07:53.297 Subchapter B state adoption of instructional materials 01:07:53.305 --> 01:07:55.653 and Subchapter C: Local Adoptions 01:07:56.216 --> 01:07:57.595 Operations is adopted. 01:07:58.649 --> 01:07:59.940 Item Number Four. 01:08:00.818 --> 01:08:01.480 Actually, 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.917 we're going to turn it over to page two. 01:08:04.145 --> 01:08:05.008 Sorry you're right, 01:08:05.008 --> 01:08:05.878 Agenda Item Number Four. 01:08:05.878 --> 01:08:06.795 I'm sorry, 01:08:06.795 --> 01:08:07.809 Agenda Item Number Four. 01:08:08.253 --> 01:08:09.868 It's on the top of page two in your minutes. 01:08:10.423 --> 01:08:11.763 On behalf of the Committee the Full Board, 01:08:11.763 --> 01:08:13.153 I move that the State Board of Education 01:08:13.153 --> 01:08:15.092 by affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members 01:08:15.092 --> 01:08:16.594 of the board approve for second reading 01:08:16.594 --> 01:08:17.466 and final adoption 01:08:17.512 --> 01:08:19.248 proposed revisions 19 TAC Chapter 66: 01:08:20.352 --> 01:08:20.958 State Adoption 01:08:20.958 --> 01:08:23.009 and Distribution of Instructional Materials, Subchapter A: 01:08:23.053 --> 01:08:23.839 General Provisions. 01:08:23.927 --> 01:08:25.024 Subchapter B: State Adoption 01:08:25.032 --> 01:08:25.975 and Instructional Materials. 01:08:25.975 --> 01:08:27.686 Subchapter C: Local Operations 01:08:27.780 --> 01:08:29.886 with an effective date of 20 days after filing 01:08:29.993 --> 01:08:31.538 as adopted with the Texas Register. 01:08:32.037 --> 01:08:32.615 Madam Chair. 01:08:32.615 --> 01:08:34.140 Yes, Ms. Martinez. 01:08:34.391 --> 01:08:36.398 Before you take the final vote, 01:08:36.398 --> 01:08:40.774 staff does have one final amendment for your consideration. 01:08:41.776 --> 01:08:43.693 This is something that we discovered recently 01:08:44.040 --> 01:08:47.857 that you might want to consider with respect to 01:08:48.316 --> 01:08:50.813 66.28 01:08:51.203 --> 01:08:53.728 and you can find that in your agenda book. 01:08:56.727 --> 01:08:57.899 What page is that? 01:08:58.208 --> 01:08:59.270 I'm getting that. I apologize. 01:08:59.651 --> 01:09:04.169 66.28 is on Roman Numeral 1-50. 01:09:15.945 --> 01:09:18.566 This language would clarify 01:09:18.630 --> 01:09:21.314 what the expectations are to ensure that 01:09:21.314 --> 01:09:24.018 all instructional materials are accessible 01:09:24.066 --> 01:09:26.217 for students with disabilities. 01:09:27.131 --> 01:09:30.214 This is specific to electronic instructional materials 01:09:30.571 --> 01:09:34.885 and would indicate that, while further detail 01:09:35.488 --> 01:09:38.393 would be included in each proclamation as appropriate, 01:09:39.519 --> 01:09:40.884 This includes in your rule 01:09:41.295 --> 01:09:44.291 the expectation that that will be addressed. 01:09:46.178 --> 01:09:47.775 Yes, Mr. Ratliff. 01:09:51.875 --> 01:09:52.819 Madam Chair, 01:09:54.133 --> 01:09:56.128 I'm going to make the motion of the language in red 01:09:56.978 --> 01:09:59.800 to amend 66.28A, Section 2, 01:10:00.040 --> 01:10:00.969 to insert the words, 01:10:00.969 --> 01:10:03.637 "the report must be prepared by an independent third party 01:10:03.740 --> 01:10:06.057 and be based on an audit testing the accessibility 01:10:06.095 --> 01:10:07.934 of a random sampling of pages as outlined 01:10:07.934 --> 01:10:08.906 in each proclamation. 01:10:09.343 --> 01:10:11.579 The number of pages to be audited to meet the requirements 01:10:11.579 --> 01:10:13.835 in the proclamation shall be determined by the publisher." 01:10:14.563 --> 01:10:16.050 Insert a new Section 3 01:10:16.050 --> 01:10:16.960 that would read, 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.215 "a publisher who provides access to materials to students 01:10:19.215 --> 01:10:20.109 with disabilities 01:10:20.140 --> 01:10:21.942 through an alternate format 01:10:21.983 --> 01:10:24.593 shall include a link to that material on the entrance page 01:10:24.696 --> 01:10:25.583 of main product." 01:10:26.504 --> 01:10:28.852 I'd like to move the previous question 01:10:28.852 --> 01:10:30.664 on all outstanding motions on this item. 01:10:36.461 --> 01:10:37.226 Oh yeah, 01:10:37.226 --> 01:10:38.803 the location in the agenda. 01:10:39.160 --> 01:10:39.745 Mrs. Miller, 01:10:39.745 --> 01:10:42.700 in your agenda book, it's Roman Numeral 1-50 01:10:44.583 --> 01:10:49.560 66.28A. 01:10:50.209 --> 01:10:52.244 This would add language to Number Two, 01:10:53.157 --> 01:10:55.381 would add a new Number Three 01:10:55.443 --> 01:10:57.493 and renumber accordingly. 01:11:06.501 --> 01:11:07.615 Second on the previous question. 01:11:21.304 --> 01:11:22.950 It's been moved and seconded to order 01:11:24.542 --> 01:11:27.347 the previous question 01:11:28.048 --> 01:11:29.619 on all pending items. 01:11:29.619 --> 01:11:30.719 There's a vote 01:11:31.073 --> 01:11:32.798 on moving forward to go ahead 01:11:32.993 --> 01:11:34.584 and not only add this amendment 01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:36.061 but to approve 01:11:36.223 --> 01:11:40.992 the rules as we worked on them the other day 01:11:41.250 --> 01:11:42.568 when we sent them through. 01:11:48.384 --> 01:11:51.210 If that's adopted than we're finished 01:11:51.384 --> 01:11:53.147 with changes to the rules 01:11:53.183 --> 01:11:56.802 and this Chapter 66 will be adopted. 01:11:57.707 --> 01:11:58.935 All those in favor. 01:12:00.135 --> 01:12:00.833 Right, so 01:12:00.833 --> 01:12:04.134 if you vote in favor of this, then there's no discussion. 01:12:06.738 --> 01:12:09.202 Is it a point of order? 01:12:10.433 --> 01:12:11.686 It's not a debatable motion. 01:12:41.071 --> 01:12:43.412 Kurt's telling me that you can ask that after 01:12:43.572 --> 01:12:45.493 we vote on the previous question. 01:12:52.974 --> 01:12:54.082 Correct. 01:13:00.233 --> 01:13:01.551 Let him explain. 01:13:01.816 --> 01:13:03.322 The previous question means 01:13:03.322 --> 01:13:04.691 we're going to vote now. 01:13:04.799 --> 01:13:05.498 No debate, 01:13:05.498 --> 01:13:08.474 no further motions to amend 01:13:08.537 --> 01:13:09.594 or anything like that. 01:13:10.197 --> 01:13:12.068 The pending question is to do that. 01:13:13.702 --> 01:13:16.501 If members have questions about that procedure, 01:13:16.793 --> 01:13:17.925 they can ask a question. 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:18.854 However, I think 01:13:18.927 --> 01:13:22.207 a question of information might be allowed 01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:24.443 as long as it doesn't go into debate. 01:13:25.970 --> 01:13:27.914 The chair could possibly allow that after we vote 01:13:27.914 --> 01:13:28.956 on the previous question. 01:13:30.072 --> 01:13:33.235 So you had a question for Monica to answer? 01:13:35.058 --> 01:13:38.664 So it's not a debate of what's being presented. 01:13:45.381 --> 01:13:46.246 It's not debatable, 01:13:46.383 --> 01:13:48.136 we have to take care of the vote first, right? 01:13:48.937 --> 01:13:51.439 Procedurally, we have to take care of the vote first. 01:13:52.731 --> 01:13:54.105 All those in favor say, I. 01:13:54.105 --> 01:13:55.097 I. 01:13:55.668 --> 01:13:57.087 All those opposed say nay. 01:13:57.674 --> 01:13:59.922 I think we have to have hands up. 01:14:00.738 --> 01:14:02.427 We have to have our hands up for this vote. 01:14:05.811 --> 01:14:07.135 (laughter) 01:14:07.146 --> 01:14:07.956 Sorry. 01:14:10.503 --> 01:14:12.059 Have the two-thirds, ok. 01:14:14.646 --> 01:14:15.480 Members, in order 01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:18.318 to make this the early effective date requires a vote 01:14:18.318 --> 01:14:20.374 of the two-thirds of the members. 01:14:39.584 --> 01:14:42.291 I think we better hold up our hands to be sure that we had 01:14:42.291 --> 01:14:43.187 two-thirds vote 01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:44.928 to move the previous question 01:14:50.381 --> 01:14:51.558 and vote right away. 01:14:51.558 --> 01:14:53.334 To shut off previous question 01:14:53.469 --> 01:14:54.597 and vote right away. 01:14:55.232 --> 01:14:57.635 Let's hold up our hands just to be sure we've got the 01:14:57.970 --> 01:14:58.908 two-thirds needed. 01:14:59.858 --> 01:15:02.442 All those in favor of moving the previous question, 01:15:03.519 --> 01:15:04.279 raise your hand. 01:15:18.369 --> 01:15:19.826 All those opposed, raise your hand. 01:15:24.262 --> 01:15:24.825 Ok, so 01:15:24.825 --> 01:15:25.584 that's two-thirds. 01:15:29.474 --> 01:15:29.996 Now, ask your question 01:15:29.996 --> 01:15:32.822 for clarification. 01:15:34.038 --> 01:15:35.098 The language proposed 01:15:35.098 --> 01:15:36.861 obviously I was back there, I heard. 01:15:36.981 --> 01:15:40.163 I'm glad that you guys want to fix this, right? 01:15:40.692 --> 01:15:41.915 What's your question? 01:15:41.962 --> 01:15:43.174 because you can't debate. 01:15:43.174 --> 01:15:43.885 I don't want to debate it. 01:15:43.885 --> 01:15:45.167 It's leading up to the question 01:15:45.294 --> 01:15:47.695 but the language on here says, 01:15:48.433 --> 01:15:51.739 "the number of pages to be audited must meet the requirements 01:15:51.853 --> 01:15:54.296 in the proclamation 01:15:54.529 --> 01:15:56.001 and shall be determined by the publisher." 01:15:56.126 --> 01:15:59.053 Why are we catering to the publisher, still? 01:15:59.113 --> 01:16:03.179 Wouldn't that be something that would meet the requirements 01:16:03.179 --> 01:16:07.423 of the agency so we won't have the problem that we were 01:16:07.423 --> 01:16:08.906 exposed to on Wednesday. 01:16:09.552 --> 01:16:10.363 Mr. Cortez, 01:16:10.363 --> 01:16:13.275 the idea here is that there would be an audit 01:16:13.434 --> 01:16:15.658 of a random sampling of pages. 01:16:16.044 --> 01:16:20.054 Because the number of pages is going to vary widely, 01:16:20.687 --> 01:16:25.687 we believe we will be able to make appropriate determination 01:16:25.771 --> 01:16:27.637 with certain types of pages. 01:16:27.831 --> 01:16:29.506 We would bring language back to you 01:16:29.599 --> 01:16:32.878 and the proclamation that would outline the types of pages. 01:16:33.299 --> 01:16:38.299 If a publisher chooses to provide many more 01:16:38.523 --> 01:16:41.504 of those different varieties than that 01:16:41.504 --> 01:16:42.886 would be perfectly acceptable. 01:16:43.432 --> 01:16:47.578 We would be able to indicate what the minimum amount would 01:16:47.583 --> 01:16:50.304 be in order for us to make the appropriate determination. 01:16:50.951 --> 01:16:52.912 We set the parameters is what you're saying. 01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:56.101 The board will set the parameters in the proclamation. 01:16:56.896 --> 01:16:59.474 This item becomes final because it's second reading? 01:17:00.448 --> 01:17:03.775 This language would end all that 01:17:04.635 --> 01:17:06.536 and we are basically at the mercy of whatever 01:17:06.536 --> 01:17:08.374 comes in that random sampling. 01:17:09.210 --> 01:17:11.675 You all won't have an opportunity beyond that. 01:17:12.135 --> 01:17:12.964 No that's not correct. 01:17:12.964 --> 01:17:13.826 After that random sampling. 01:17:13.826 --> 01:17:15.084 I just want to know the process. 01:17:16.041 --> 01:17:19.041 This rule is indicating is that you're going 01:17:19.041 --> 01:17:22.675 to expect a random audit of all the materials 01:17:22.896 --> 01:17:25.063 and as we get to each proclamation, 01:17:25.262 --> 01:17:27.849 you're going to set the parameters at that time. 01:17:28.120 --> 01:17:30.404 Every proclamation is going to be different 01:17:31.415 --> 01:17:34.683 we didn't want to be so specific in the rule that 01:17:34.683 --> 01:17:37.827 you then don't have the opportunity to set those parameters 01:17:37.973 --> 01:17:39.135 with each proclamation. 01:17:39.334 --> 01:17:41.435 That will be the next step in this process. 01:17:42.595 --> 01:17:43.721 That would happen when? 01:17:44.944 --> 01:17:47.856 When you vote to approve each proclamation. 01:17:51.286 --> 01:17:52.424 So we'll have the opportunity 01:17:52.424 --> 01:17:56.396 at the proclamation to set our parameters however we would 01:17:56.396 --> 01:17:57.620 like to set the parameters. 01:17:57.620 --> 01:17:58.360 Yes, ma'am. 01:17:59.024 --> 01:18:00.235 Yes, make sure 01:18:00.235 --> 01:18:02.066 there's a question Mr. Ratliff. 01:18:03.656 --> 01:18:05.719 Monica, the reason 01:18:05.719 --> 01:18:07.015 you're leaving it flexible, 01:18:07.015 --> 01:18:08.402 as I understand it, 01:18:08.685 --> 01:18:11.079 staff says the kind of samples we would need 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.299 will vary by subject so you my want charts for one type, 01:18:14.299 --> 01:18:16.448 language for another type, etc. 01:18:16.642 --> 01:18:18.868 So it gives y'all the ability to have those samples 01:18:18.868 --> 01:18:21.246 relavent to the content being looked at. 01:18:21.307 --> 01:18:22.143 That's correct. 01:18:22.237 --> 01:18:22.976 Thank you. 01:18:23.919 --> 01:18:25.985 Members the previous question has been ordered 01:18:25.985 --> 01:18:28.424 and we will now vote on the amendment 01:18:28.650 --> 01:18:30.244 and this is a majority vote. 01:18:30.569 --> 01:18:35.569 All those in favor of the amendment to chapter 66.28A 01:18:36.282 --> 01:18:41.282 to include, at the end of 66.28A 2, the report must be 01:18:43.542 --> 01:18:44.733 prepared by an independent third party 01:18:44.984 --> 01:18:47.163 and be based on an audit testing the accessibility 01:18:47.379 --> 01:18:49.190 of a random sample of pages as outlined 01:18:49.190 --> 01:18:52.207 in each proclamation number of pages to be audited 01:18:52.207 --> 01:18:55.245 to meet the requirements in the proclamation shall be 01:18:55.245 --> 01:18:56.842 determined by the publisher. 01:18:57.215 --> 01:19:00.101 Number Three, a publisher who provides access to materials 01:19:00.101 --> 01:19:03.065 to students with disabilities through an alternate format 01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.517 shall include a link to that material on the entrance page 01:19:06.973 --> 01:19:08.472 of the main product. 01:19:08.786 --> 01:19:10.147 All those in favor say I. 01:19:10.621 --> 01:19:11.396 I. 01:19:11.844 --> 01:19:13.274 All those opposed, nay. 01:19:14.168 --> 01:19:14.948 I's have it. 01:19:16.021 --> 01:19:19.067 Members, we're taking a vote on the main motion as amended. 01:19:20.730 --> 01:19:24.755 This is where the motion before us is to 01:19:24.755 --> 01:19:26.017 approve for second reading 01:19:26.017 --> 01:19:26.943 and final adoption. 01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:30.782 Proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 66: State Adoption 01:19:30.782 --> 01:19:33.170 and Distribution of Instructional Material, 01:19:33.170 --> 01:19:34.810 Subchapter A: General Provisions 01:19:34.868 --> 01:19:36.043 and Subchapter B: 01:19:36.208 --> 01:19:38.228 State Adoption of Instructional Materials 01:19:38.275 --> 01:19:40.194 and Subchapter C: Local Operations 01:19:40.454 --> 01:19:43.044 with an effective date of 20 days after filing 01:19:43.217 --> 01:19:47.500 as adopted with the Texas register, if there is a two-thirds 01:19:47.618 --> 01:19:49.936 vote in the affirmative. 01:19:52.015 --> 01:19:55.119 As amended, because we did just amend it. 01:19:56.021 --> 01:19:58.091 Are you ready for the question? 01:19:59.975 --> 01:20:01.226 No debate on this. 01:20:01.453 --> 01:20:02.748 Is there a question that you had? 01:20:03.448 --> 01:20:05.037 I'm pretty sure I'm caught up 01:20:05.037 --> 01:20:06.719 with the amendments that have been made, 01:20:06.719 --> 01:20:09.842 but do we have a clean version in front of us? 01:20:10.875 --> 01:20:13.593 That's what's in the notes that you got, right? 01:20:13.914 --> 01:20:14.554 In the minutes. 01:20:14.977 --> 01:20:18.298 We don't have time to provide a clean version 01:20:18.694 --> 01:20:19.993 from meeting to meeting. 01:20:20.382 --> 01:20:22.060 You've got the changes in your minutes. 01:20:22.717 --> 01:20:23.827 The changes are in the minutes. 01:20:23.827 --> 01:20:24.988 Right. 01:20:25.233 --> 01:20:26.632 They'll be getting us a clean version. 01:20:26.849 --> 01:20:27.745 Oaky, no problem. 01:20:27.987 --> 01:20:28.738 Thank you. 01:20:34.744 --> 01:20:36.087 All those in favor raise your hand. 01:20:41.818 --> 01:20:44.683 All those opposed raise your hand. 01:20:45.345 --> 01:20:46.249 The I's have it. 01:20:47.025 --> 01:20:47.765 Yes, because 01:20:47.765 --> 01:20:49.019 we had over two-thirds, 01:20:49.430 --> 01:20:53.391 we will be adopting effective day 20 days after filing 01:20:53.738 --> 01:20:55.103 as adopted with the Texas register. 01:20:55.665 --> 01:20:56.429 Thank you, members. 01:20:57.537 --> 01:20:58.385 Now members, 01:20:58.789 --> 01:21:00.052 if there's no objection, 01:21:00.123 --> 01:21:02.143 I'm going to move Item Number Eight forward 01:21:02.290 --> 01:21:04.509 because one of our members has to leave early. 01:21:05.234 --> 01:21:07.620 I'd like to move item number eight forward. 01:21:08.892 --> 01:21:09.924 Is there any objection? 01:21:10.353 --> 01:21:10.826 Madame Chair, 01:21:10.826 --> 01:21:13.092 I've failed to state one part of the last motion 01:21:13.092 --> 01:21:15.436 that we also instruct staff to file the resolution 01:21:15.486 --> 01:21:19.824 issued by the State Board of Education in the miscellaneous 01:21:19.863 --> 01:21:21.283 section of the Texas Register. 01:21:21.838 --> 01:21:23.571 Oh, that's right, yes. 01:21:25.419 --> 01:21:27.002 That was part of the committee recommendation, 01:21:27.014 --> 01:21:28.304 do we need to talk about that again? 01:21:29.218 --> 01:21:30.587 I didn't know it needed to be part of the motion. 01:21:32.859 --> 01:21:34.626 The board does have to be approve it, correct? 01:21:37.070 --> 01:21:38.423 I don't think there was an objection on Wednesday. 01:21:39.017 --> 01:21:40.813 Is there any objection to so moving? 01:21:41.571 --> 01:21:43.515 Ok, so ordered. 01:21:44.075 --> 01:21:45.673 Item number eight on your agenda. 01:21:45.767 --> 01:21:47.641 If you'll skip over to that, Mr. Ratliff. 01:21:48.712 --> 01:21:50.013 Did you have a question, Ms. Perez? 01:21:50.233 --> 01:21:50.853 No, Madam Chair. 01:21:51.003 --> 01:21:52.287 Prior to starting that item, 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:53.997 I just need to recuse myself. 01:21:53.997 --> 01:21:54.783 Oh, yes. 01:21:54.976 --> 01:21:55.906 Thank you, so noted. 01:21:56.276 --> 01:21:58.582 Ms. Perez is recusing herself from this discussion 01:21:58.896 --> 01:21:59.798 on item number eight. 01:22:00.828 --> 01:22:01.775 It's on your agenda, 01:22:01.912 --> 01:22:04.792 but which item is it on the minutes, Mr. Ratliff? 01:22:12.984 --> 01:22:14.122 I'm going to make sure we get to the right one 01:22:14.133 --> 01:22:14.911 in the minutes. 01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:17.012 [Voiceover] In the Committee of the Full Board Minutes, 01:22:17.012 --> 01:22:18.004 it's on page nine. 01:22:19.064 --> 01:22:19.589 Item Seven. 01:22:19.589 --> 01:22:21.002 Item Seven. Yes, ma'am. 01:22:21.023 --> 01:22:21.685 Thank you. 01:22:21.767 --> 01:22:23.318 Official Agenda Item Number Eight 01:22:23.528 --> 01:22:25.457 on page I-163. 01:22:29.198 --> 01:22:30.817 Got nine different ways to refer to this thing. 01:22:33.022 --> 01:22:35.024 Members, on behalf of the committee of the full board, 01:22:35.024 --> 01:22:37.022 I move that the State Board of Education approve all 01:22:37.022 --> 01:22:40.516 three vendors as test providers for the Texas Certification 01:22:40.521 --> 01:22:41.855 of High School Equivalency. 01:22:53.245 --> 01:22:54.223 There were no amendments. 01:22:56.263 --> 01:22:58.774 The vote will be on the recommendation to approve. 01:23:14.807 --> 01:23:16.318 You're going to talk about afterwards, 01:23:16.481 --> 01:23:18.167 Ms. Martinez has some things to talk about 01:23:18.248 --> 01:23:19.194 next steps. 01:23:20.586 --> 01:23:21.297 Before we vote, 01:23:21.325 --> 01:23:23.239 I was just wanting to make sure members were clear 01:23:23.401 --> 01:23:26.701 on what happens now regardless of the vote taken. 01:23:26.742 --> 01:23:28.175 I'd think it be important to know that 01:23:28.190 --> 01:23:29.740 if, members, you don't mind. 01:23:31.373 --> 01:23:32.242 Yes, Mr. Cortez. 01:23:36.688 --> 01:23:39.014 What we intend to do is place another item 01:23:39.103 --> 01:23:42.877 on your April agenda so that we can discuss next steps. 01:23:44.270 --> 01:23:45.519 What we anticipate, 01:23:45.699 --> 01:23:48.133 and we did mention this with the committee on instruction 01:23:48.133 --> 01:23:51.468 is that there will be a need to amend you chapter 89 rules 01:23:51.918 --> 01:23:56.918 to insure they are consistent with the expectation 01:23:58.015 --> 01:24:00.464 that there will be more than one test available 01:24:00.847 --> 01:24:03.036 in both computer and paper format. 01:24:03.217 --> 01:24:05.278 We'll need to make some adjustments. 01:24:05.383 --> 01:24:09.623 We also anticipate that we are going to need to increase 01:24:09.770 --> 01:24:12.586 the state fee that is a portion of this 01:24:12.789 --> 01:24:16.879 in order to be able to make the appropriate adjustments 01:24:16.973 --> 01:24:21.823 so the agency is prepared to manage this new system. 01:24:21.823 --> 01:24:23.554 For example, 01:24:23.566 --> 01:24:28.229 our data system will have to be reworked 01:24:28.448 --> 01:24:33.448 in order for us to be prepared to address multiple tests. 01:24:35.866 --> 01:24:36.842 In addition to that, 01:24:37.150 --> 01:24:40.263 when you initially set out the RFP, 01:24:40.756 --> 01:24:44.819 that RFP did indicate your intent to have 01:24:45.015 --> 01:24:47.055 an equivalency study done. 01:24:47.355 --> 01:24:50.930 That was something that you ask that the agency complete. 01:24:53.083 --> 01:24:55.295 Upon a final decision, 01:24:55.576 --> 01:24:58.496 we will need to figure out what the timeline will be 01:24:58.496 --> 01:25:00.589 for completing that equating study, 01:25:00.589 --> 01:25:02.289 I guess I used the wrong term earlier, 01:25:02.507 --> 01:25:04.875 that will be something that we need to do. 01:25:04.875 --> 01:25:09.080 We think we're in a position where we'll probably need 01:25:09.080 --> 01:25:12.072 to come back in April with all of the next steps 01:25:12.126 --> 01:25:15.737 and likely need that to be an action item 01:25:15.738 --> 01:25:18.450 so that you can make any additional decisions 01:25:18.673 --> 01:25:21.779 with respect to implementation moving forward. 01:25:22.597 --> 01:25:23.369 Mr. Ratliff. 01:25:24.613 --> 01:25:25.270 Monica, there 01:25:25.270 --> 01:25:29.822 was also some confusion in the board about 01:25:30.034 --> 01:25:32.427 the representation that we had three vendors 01:25:32.668 --> 01:25:34.995 in the alignment to the TEKS. 01:25:36.321 --> 01:25:37.360 After further research, 01:25:37.466 --> 01:25:40.588 one of the vendors used a different scale for alignment 01:25:40.806 --> 01:25:43.110 we didn't convert over to a percentage, 01:25:43.953 --> 01:25:46.680 so it looked like all three vendors were much closer 01:25:47.566 --> 01:25:49.463 with regards to alignment to the TEKS. 01:25:50.751 --> 01:25:53.196 Is there anybody here that can just touch on that? 01:25:55.157 --> 01:25:56.205 We didn't name any names, 01:25:56.445 --> 01:25:58.564 I just want to make sure that members of the board 01:25:58.718 --> 01:26:01.576 and of the public understand that all three vendors 01:26:01.719 --> 01:26:04.355 were closer than what we previously thought in terms 01:26:04.355 --> 01:26:05.459 of alignment to the TEKS, 01:26:05.569 --> 01:26:09.629 because of the conversion of their third party verification. 01:26:10.843 --> 01:26:13.874 Staff didn't actually look at that. 01:26:14.285 --> 01:26:17.017 I know that we did ask someone from research 01:26:17.017 --> 01:26:20.224 and analysis to provide some additional feedback. 01:26:20.967 --> 01:26:24.685 My understanding was that because there were different 01:26:25.270 --> 01:26:27.340 parties who actually did that review, 01:26:28.026 --> 01:26:30.614 that we're comparing apples to oranges 01:26:31.184 --> 01:26:32.863 and we can't really make a comparison 01:26:32.869 --> 01:26:34.615 with the information we have available to us. 01:26:35.338 --> 01:26:36.480 I believe Madam Chair, 01:26:36.830 --> 01:26:39.516 Kurt will probably tell us to do this in the form 01:26:39.516 --> 01:26:40.223 of a motion, 01:26:40.223 --> 01:26:42.446 I think that we may have some discussion 01:26:42.559 --> 01:26:46.309 about a contingency to say we need everybody to use the same 01:26:47.195 --> 01:26:48.163 third-party verifier 01:26:48.352 --> 01:26:49.448 and use the same rubric 01:26:49.448 --> 01:26:51.728 so we truly do have an apples to apples comparison. 01:26:51.873 --> 01:26:54.748 Otherwise even the two vendors that use the same 01:26:54.787 --> 01:26:57.101 third-party verifier used a different rubric. 01:26:57.225 --> 01:27:00.242 So we really don't have a comparison of all three on 01:27:00.242 --> 01:27:02.216 the same scale 01:27:02.556 --> 01:27:05.471 and as it pertains to the five specific courses 01:27:05.719 --> 01:27:07.539 that we specified in the RFP. 01:27:08.379 --> 01:27:09.112 Some went above 01:27:09.112 --> 01:27:09.971 and beyond which is great, 01:27:10.147 --> 01:27:12.493 but we need to understand how they meet the 01:27:12.493 --> 01:27:13.781 specific terms of the RFP. 01:27:14.540 --> 01:27:15.728 After we have some discussion, 01:27:15.728 --> 01:27:18.328 we can offer that contingency if members are so inclined. 01:27:18.632 --> 01:27:22.346 I think what's important for us to do is kind of 01:27:22.497 --> 01:27:23.827 help staff figure out 01:27:23.832 --> 01:27:25.502 because you are going to be coming to us, I assume, 01:27:25.502 --> 01:27:27.824 with some terms or contract 01:27:27.824 --> 01:27:29.114 or who knows what's going to happen. 01:27:29.164 --> 01:27:31.036 It'll be an action item of some sort, 01:27:31.157 --> 01:27:33.070 an update of some sort by April 01:27:33.541 --> 01:27:35.173 depending on what you are able to get done 01:27:35.173 --> 01:27:36.890 and how long you take to. 01:27:37.807 --> 01:27:40.256 There will be a need to negotiate the terms 01:27:40.256 --> 01:27:41.075 of the contract. 01:27:41.364 --> 01:27:41.889 Right. 01:27:41.889 --> 01:27:46.490 We believe we will need to further 01:27:46.782 --> 01:27:49.104 conversation with you about broader implementations. 01:27:49.253 --> 01:27:53.140 I'm not just talking about the contract terms, 01:27:53.295 --> 01:27:57.193 I'm talking about how the agency prepares to implement 01:27:57.476 --> 01:27:58.474 a different system. 01:28:00.302 --> 01:28:03.244 Not knowing what your decisions were going to be today 01:28:03.283 --> 01:28:07.118 we're not prepared to lay out all of the decisions 01:28:07.118 --> 01:28:08.577 related to implementations. 01:28:09.585 --> 01:28:11.055 We anticipate that we will do that in April. 01:28:12.507 --> 01:28:14.207 Yes, Mr. Rowley. 01:28:17.276 --> 01:28:21.496 Monica, the fee that you're talking about looking at 01:28:21.496 --> 01:28:24.015 and adjusting, is that an agency decision 01:28:24.260 --> 01:28:25.198 or a board decision? 01:28:25.870 --> 01:28:30.870 The fee is in board rule so that would be an amendment. 01:28:31.351 --> 01:28:34.636 You may recall when we first discussed the second RFP, 01:28:35.033 --> 01:28:38.902 we did let you know that there would be some additional 01:28:38.945 --> 01:28:40.169 cost to the agency 01:28:40.481 --> 01:28:43.033 because we don't have the budget to absorb those costs 01:28:43.349 --> 01:28:45.087 and because this is a fee based program, 01:28:45.583 --> 01:28:48.346 that we anticipated the need to increase that fee. 01:28:48.717 --> 01:28:51.971 That was information that we wanted to make sure you were 01:28:51.971 --> 01:28:54.590 aware of at the very beginning of this process 01:28:55.045 --> 01:28:57.235 that in order for us to be able to do this, 01:28:58.575 --> 01:29:00.273 there are going to be some costs involved 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.286 and we have to identify the funding to address 01:29:03.357 --> 01:29:04.238 those costs. 01:29:04.818 --> 01:29:07.006 We had that converstation with the committee 01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:08.469 on instruction yesterday 01:29:09.180 --> 01:29:11.550 and that item will be presented for first reading 01:29:11.550 --> 01:29:13.308 and filing authorization in April. 01:29:15.451 --> 01:29:16.635 Yes, Mr. Cortez. 01:29:19.752 --> 01:29:20.488 I have one for Monica, 01:29:20.507 --> 01:29:22.377 but let me ask legal first. 01:29:22.627 --> 01:29:27.437 It was mentioned of possibly considering the motion 01:29:28.023 --> 01:29:29.313 to offer contingencies 01:29:29.313 --> 01:29:33.903 to have everybody use the same firm 01:29:34.651 --> 01:29:37.240 for the alignment study. 01:29:38.775 --> 01:29:41.573 How does that fall within the scope 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.064 of our current proposal? 01:29:45.879 --> 01:29:47.627 Are we falling out of the scope by now 01:29:48.318 --> 01:29:50.020 changing the rules at this point 01:29:50.569 --> 01:29:53.859 or are we still within the header of the law? 01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:58.089 If that contingency were to be presented? 01:30:05.878 --> 01:30:07.845 Wouldn't it not just be easier to rebid 01:30:09.403 --> 01:30:11.922 and ask clearly what we need? 01:30:14.322 --> 01:30:17.208 While they're discussing that, 01:30:18.195 --> 01:30:21.802 what I wanted to say was, Monica, 01:30:22.241 --> 01:30:23.925 one of the things I've already spoken to you about 01:30:23.925 --> 01:30:27.378 as you're thinking about putting together whatever terms 01:30:27.684 --> 01:30:28.467 for the contract. 01:30:28.873 --> 01:30:33.873 That we have some way of looking at outcomes when it comes 01:30:34.802 --> 01:30:38.977 to the three providers that, five years out, 01:30:39.377 --> 01:30:43.688 six years out, whatever is an appropriate time to look 01:30:43.688 --> 01:30:46.516 to see if there is any variance between any of the 01:30:46.516 --> 01:30:51.516 three providers as information we can provide to consumers 01:30:52.417 --> 01:30:54.125 if there are more successful programs 01:30:54.275 --> 01:30:55.239 than other programs. 01:30:55.422 --> 01:30:56.785 Of course, we have no idea if all of them 01:30:56.785 --> 01:30:57.897 are equally successful 01:30:57.923 --> 01:30:59.947 and that will be terrific if that's what's voted on 01:31:00.103 --> 01:31:00.847 by the members. 01:31:01.034 --> 01:31:04.370 But we want to make sure we have some way of accessing outcomes 01:31:05.210 --> 01:31:08.410 based on successful passing 01:31:08.410 --> 01:31:10.081 of the high school equivalency exams. 01:31:10.661 --> 01:31:14.148 We'll certainly look at that to see what options might 01:31:14.148 --> 01:31:15.033 be available. 01:31:15.954 --> 01:31:19.775 The challenge is that you're talking about test takers 01:31:20.028 --> 01:31:23.582 who would have to agree to allow 01:31:23.957 --> 01:31:25.671 information to be collected. 01:31:27.073 --> 01:31:29.648 We would only be able to collect data to the extent 01:31:29.824 --> 01:31:32.800 that individuals were willing to allow us to collect 01:31:33.353 --> 01:31:34.222 that data 01:31:34.589 --> 01:31:36.431 and be able to track that information. 01:31:36.804 --> 01:31:38.897 We'll certainly have some conversations between now 01:31:38.897 --> 01:31:43.897 and April to see what if anything we might be able to do 01:31:44.708 --> 01:31:46.528 or test providers might be able to do. 01:31:47.973 --> 01:31:51.393 I do think it's important to point out that we do have 01:31:51.393 --> 01:31:53.088 that major barrier in place. 01:31:53.447 --> 01:31:54.116 Yeah, absolutely. 01:31:54.426 --> 01:31:56.672 As long as you guys are looking at that as fact, 01:31:56.864 --> 01:31:57.958 I think that is the important thing. 01:31:58.130 --> 01:32:00.215 Yes, Ms. Malone. 01:32:02.627 --> 01:32:03.427 Monica, do we 01:32:03.427 --> 01:32:06.930 have an idea what would be the earliest date that people 01:32:06.930 --> 01:32:10.702 could start taking, as things are right now, 01:32:11.615 --> 01:32:15.763 The earliest that students can begin taking the test? 01:32:16.694 --> 01:32:20.613 No, ma'am we don't have an idea of that today. 01:32:21.129 --> 01:32:22.075 We really need to sit down 01:32:22.075 --> 01:32:23.542 and figure that out. 01:32:24.277 --> 01:32:24.985 Thank you. 01:32:25.354 --> 01:32:25.686 Dr. Dominguez. 01:32:26.386 --> 01:32:27.450 Thank you. 01:32:28.278 --> 01:32:32.638 Now that we're not sure about the alignment to the TEKS, 01:32:33.078 --> 01:32:37.213 would it be part of the contract for us to request that they 01:32:37.591 --> 01:32:40.693 be aligned at a certain percentage to the TEKS? 01:32:41.628 --> 01:32:43.528 Is this a time to go ahead 01:32:43.528 --> 01:32:45.678 and talk about that 01:32:45.678 --> 01:32:47.690 because I would like to see them. 01:32:48.098 --> 01:32:50.453 I would not want to only be aligned 40% 01:32:50.644 --> 01:32:52.521 and the other ones 80% 01:32:52.818 --> 01:32:57.818 I think that it would be responsible of us to make sure 01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.605 that they're aligned to the TEKS 01:32:59.753 --> 01:33:01.429 at a certain percentage. 01:33:02.607 --> 01:33:04.595 I'm going to see if Christine can help 01:33:04.921 --> 01:33:06.571 with what can be done. 01:33:06.571 --> 01:33:08.374 One thing I do want to say 01:33:08.723 --> 01:33:10.840 is if you determine a percentage, 01:33:12.450 --> 01:33:14.593 you need to do that with the recognition 01:33:14.957 --> 01:33:18.120 that you may have no tests that meets that percentage. 01:33:19.076 --> 01:33:21.588 We're not in a position to provide you with a percentage 01:33:21.936 --> 01:33:23.807 to say this is where they need to meet. 01:33:27.543 --> 01:33:30.278 We had this conversation before, you didn't set a percentage 01:33:30.985 --> 01:33:33.202 in the RFP for that reason. 01:33:34.716 --> 01:33:36.875 That certainly would be a decision that the board 01:33:36.875 --> 01:33:37.604 would make. 01:33:38.580 --> 01:33:40.789 We wouldn't be able to assist you with determining 01:33:40.825 --> 01:33:42.238 what that percentage would be. 01:33:43.287 --> 01:33:45.563 Would we know by April 01:33:46.065 --> 01:33:48.546 kind of where we were with the providers 01:33:48.982 --> 01:33:50.306 on percentage alignment? 01:33:53.422 --> 01:33:55.956 We only have the information that was provide to us 01:33:56.378 --> 01:33:58.357 in the responses. 01:34:00.417 --> 01:34:02.336 You're saying the responses won't tell us? 01:34:02.577 --> 01:34:07.577 The responses are not uniformed. 01:34:09.958 --> 01:34:11.709 I thought staff had looked at this, too. 01:34:14.691 --> 01:34:15.928 The reviewers internal 01:34:15.928 --> 01:34:18.843 and external looked at the information that was provided. 01:34:20.549 --> 01:34:21.751 Okay. 01:34:22.157 --> 01:34:24.909 Yes, Mr. Bradley. 01:34:27.170 --> 01:34:30.133 Monica, my experience with RFPs and contracts 01:34:30.818 --> 01:34:33.975 go back to the PSF so I think I can ask this question, 01:34:34.791 --> 01:34:36.850 is there a termination date on these contracts? 01:34:37.021 --> 01:34:38.046 What's the lifespan? 01:34:38.625 --> 01:34:41.418 I think that's a decision that still needs to be made. 01:34:41.540 --> 01:34:43.813 That's why I was asking the question. 01:34:43.870 --> 01:34:45.498 Certainly we're not going to go 70 years. 01:34:46.931 --> 01:34:48.528 I don't know what you would decide to do. 01:34:49.612 --> 01:34:51.149 That's something we can talk about next time 01:34:52.715 --> 01:34:53.737 in April. 01:34:59.826 --> 01:35:02.046 This is the answer to Mr. Cortez's question. 01:35:02.878 --> 01:35:05.620 I want to make sure I have the question set 01:35:05.682 --> 01:35:07.199 before us correctly. 01:35:08.987 --> 01:35:12.314 The board is at this point willing to explore it 01:35:12.314 --> 01:35:13.156 moving forward 01:35:13.156 --> 01:35:15.347 with all three respondents. 01:35:15.775 --> 01:35:19.071 You want to have another level of information 01:35:19.539 --> 01:35:23.792 which is how aligned are each of the vendor's test 01:35:24.166 --> 01:35:25.193 to the TEKS. 01:35:25.723 --> 01:35:29.640 You want that information based off of one uniform 01:35:30.505 --> 01:35:31.723 third-party vendor 01:35:32.364 --> 01:35:33.992 to assess all three 01:35:34.657 --> 01:35:37.963 based on one uniform assessment. 01:35:38.320 --> 01:35:39.426 Is that correct? 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:41.205 Ok, one 01:35:41.205 --> 01:35:41.999 (inaudible) 01:35:41.999 --> 01:35:43.706 It would be all three moving forward, 01:35:44.152 --> 01:35:46.362 but then the next level is this is the information 01:35:46.362 --> 01:35:48.681 we want to discuss at the next open meeting. 01:35:48.785 --> 01:35:49.810 Is that correct? 01:35:50.700 --> 01:35:53.850 How I see that in the procurement world, it sounds like 01:35:54.052 --> 01:35:55.618 you're furthering negotiations 01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:59.982 and you are offering them the opportunity to do this. 01:36:01.208 --> 01:36:03.682 All the vendors have the opportunity to accept it 01:36:04.504 --> 01:36:05.939 and move forward with this 01:36:06.156 --> 01:36:06.864 or not. 01:36:08.180 --> 01:36:13.180 If all three agree to this next level 01:36:14.176 --> 01:36:17.598 and provide this information using one uniformed vendor, 01:36:17.708 --> 01:36:19.267 that I assume the board will have to decide 01:36:19.721 --> 01:36:20.924 on who that vendor is 01:36:21.715 --> 01:36:26.715 so they can have clear direction of where you want to go 01:36:28.149 --> 01:36:31.565 and have all that information discussed at an open meeting. 01:36:32.542 --> 01:36:33.851 They can accept it 01:36:33.851 --> 01:36:34.820 and we can move forward. 01:36:34.886 --> 01:36:37.316 If there is someone who doesn't want to accept 01:36:37.553 --> 01:36:38.628 that next level, 01:36:39.334 --> 01:36:42.543 how I see it is you have to make a determination today 01:36:43.340 --> 01:36:45.755 on the information that is brought forth already. 01:36:49.515 --> 01:36:50.603 Yes, Mr. Cortez. 01:36:50.719 --> 01:36:51.999 This is a follow up on my original question. 01:36:51.999 --> 01:36:55.194 I need to pose a question to Monica then back to counsel. 01:36:56.963 --> 01:37:01.135 Two of them did with the same firm. 01:37:01.999 --> 01:37:05.759 It's been represented by a member of our board 01:37:06.576 --> 01:37:08.044 that they used a different rubric 01:37:08.136 --> 01:37:09.787 Can you tell me what the difference is 01:37:09.977 --> 01:37:12.769 and the way they've done their analysis for each of those? 01:37:13.866 --> 01:37:14.785 I can't tell you that 01:37:14.785 --> 01:37:16.066 with any level of detail. 01:37:17.106 --> 01:37:19.223 How long have you worked in your department? 01:37:22.004 --> 01:37:27.004 I'm just trying to highlight if you're going to have 01:37:28.074 --> 01:37:29.606 a difficult time answering that question, 01:37:29.698 --> 01:37:31.339 I don't think any member of this board. 01:37:31.882 --> 01:37:32.984 May I explain why I will have 01:37:32.984 --> 01:37:33.820 a difficult time. 01:37:34.007 --> 01:37:34.645 Please. 01:37:35.123 --> 01:37:37.271 I was not on the review committee. 01:37:38.152 --> 01:37:41.080 As I mentioned before there were eight individuals 01:37:41.080 --> 01:37:42.391 who were on the review committee. 01:37:42.875 --> 01:37:44.190 I can not stand here 01:37:44.190 --> 01:37:45.936 and tell you with any level of detail 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:48.269 because I did not review personally 01:37:48.461 --> 01:37:50.126 and score the applications. 01:37:50.126 --> 01:37:51.085 Fair enough. 01:37:51.085 --> 01:37:52.676 In subsequent review, 01:37:53.273 --> 01:37:57.443 individuals who took a look at those proposals determined 01:37:57.958 --> 01:38:02.003 that the way that information was laid out was different 01:38:02.764 --> 01:38:06.146 even though it was completed by the same firm. 01:38:07.094 --> 01:38:11.263 Ok, before I ask legal the next question, 01:38:11.585 --> 01:38:12.413 let me ask you, 01:38:12.910 --> 01:38:15.564 on you having to come back to us 01:38:16.121 --> 01:38:18.966 on possibly increasing the fees, 01:38:19.224 --> 01:38:21.454 that would only be in the instance that we bring in 01:38:21.915 --> 01:38:23.104 more than one vendor? 01:38:25.663 --> 01:38:27.561 If this body decided today only one, 01:38:28.419 --> 01:38:29.485 regardless of who, 01:38:30.585 --> 01:38:35.563 would we have a need for a price increase or not? 01:38:35.670 --> 01:38:37.059 Or only if it's multiple. 01:38:37.897 --> 01:38:39.275 I just want clarification on that. 01:38:40.219 --> 01:38:42.007 I'm not 100% certain. 01:38:43.085 --> 01:38:46.875 I do know that the system is currently set up 01:38:47.425 --> 01:38:49.904 for one battery of tests 01:38:50.987 --> 01:38:54.923 and that would look different if we had multiple tests 01:38:57.686 --> 01:39:00.277 multiple batteries that had varying numbers of tests. 01:39:01.052 --> 01:39:05.200 I would be hesitant to say that there absolute would be 01:39:05.200 --> 01:39:07.311 no increase in that state fee. 01:39:08.442 --> 01:39:10.840 That is something that we intend to have a more definitive 01:39:10.919 --> 01:39:12.997 answer for you in April. 01:39:16.853 --> 01:39:18.684 It would be more likely that if 01:39:18.684 --> 01:39:19.320 we had multiple vendors 01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:22.256 that it would assume that we're going to have 01:39:22.256 --> 01:39:23.408 a price increase? 01:39:24.221 --> 01:39:27.179 It might not necessarily be the case if we selected 01:39:27.179 --> 01:39:28.373 one of the three. 01:39:30.446 --> 01:39:31.425 That's possible. 01:39:35.178 --> 01:39:36.201 Back to legal. 01:39:37.333 --> 01:39:39.771 What you're saying is if we select all three, 01:39:40.540 --> 01:39:42.883 we're basically going into negotiations with them 01:39:43.329 --> 01:39:45.983 and saying okay we're adding an extra layer of step 01:39:46.482 --> 01:39:49.619 that wasn't in this RFP 01:39:51.055 --> 01:39:52.933 we want to negotiate that point. 01:39:53.091 --> 01:39:53.904 If you're interested 01:39:53.904 --> 01:39:55.114 you can move forward, 01:39:55.491 --> 01:39:57.038 if you're not than you won't. 01:39:57.682 --> 01:40:00.324 I just don't want it to seem as if though we're catering 01:40:00.324 --> 01:40:01.892 to one because 01:40:01.892 --> 01:40:06.143 they've been discussed as not being a superior product. 01:40:07.913 --> 01:40:09.951 I kind of have a level of concern with that. 01:40:10.251 --> 01:40:11.707 I'm ok with multiple vendors. 01:40:12.535 --> 01:40:13.811 From what I've seen, 01:40:14.556 --> 01:40:19.556 I'm okay with two of what has been presented. 01:40:19.944 --> 01:40:22.171 I'm just concerned that it's going to appear 01:40:22.550 --> 01:40:25.662 as if though we're catering to one specific one 01:40:26.522 --> 01:40:28.847 to bring them up to par, because they're not there. 01:40:29.758 --> 01:40:31.774 I just want make sure we're not crossing 01:40:32.024 --> 01:40:36.468 any shady areas here, you know? 01:40:37.085 --> 01:40:40.296 My concern is not catering to one vendor, 01:40:40.296 --> 01:40:42.628 my concern is that we have a level-playing field 01:40:43.155 --> 01:40:44.453 for all vendors. 01:40:44.480 --> 01:40:46.679 That all the same rules apply to everyone. 01:40:47.501 --> 01:40:52.285 If they knew that a certain alignment 01:40:52.502 --> 01:40:54.473 and a percentage was required 01:40:54.841 --> 01:40:57.703 and a certain vendor to do the alignment test. 01:40:59.427 --> 01:41:01.504 I don't think that was stated in the RFP. 01:41:02.349 --> 01:41:05.457 The RFP asks for alignment to certain topics. 01:41:05.970 --> 01:41:07.760 I think Algebra One and etc, etc. 01:41:07.766 --> 01:41:11.134 Monica had laid out on Wednesday. 01:41:12.211 --> 01:41:14.210 If we want to further the negotiations 01:41:15.033 --> 01:41:17.838 and have all of the vendors continue to compete 01:41:18.289 --> 01:41:19.891 and ask for additional information, 01:41:20.499 --> 01:41:24.063 I think we ask it of all three not to cater to one person 01:41:24.253 --> 01:41:27.986 but to be fair to all three with an equal request 01:41:28.625 --> 01:41:31.749 asking for an equal opportunity to access them 01:41:31.749 --> 01:41:33.518 with one uniform vendor. 01:41:33.946 --> 01:41:37.488 If we don't want to do that, 01:41:38.001 --> 01:41:40.193 and don't give them the opportunity to have that, 01:41:40.515 --> 01:41:45.515 then you can use the information that is available already. 01:41:47.332 --> 01:41:49.488 I'm not saying that we don't want to 01:41:49.847 --> 01:41:51.316 I just want to be sure that we can. 01:41:52.125 --> 01:41:53.476 There's a lot of information. 01:41:53.480 --> 01:41:56.723 There's information about different rubrics with one 01:41:57.259 --> 01:41:58.778 different company with another. 01:41:59.966 --> 01:42:03.983 If we're going to ask all of them to move forward 01:42:04.658 --> 01:42:06.292 and then we're going to tell them 01:42:06.355 --> 01:42:08.266 and you're going to use X, Y, Z company 01:42:08.429 --> 01:42:10.478 that the agency has a comfort level with 01:42:10.808 --> 01:42:13.923 or whomever to do this 01:42:14.026 --> 01:42:15.079 equating study 01:42:15.684 --> 01:42:19.760 or this analysis on their alignment, 01:42:20.641 --> 01:42:22.772 Are we also able to ask them, 01:42:24.153 --> 01:42:27.347 I just trying to get to where I'm comfortable with my vote. 01:42:27.500 --> 01:42:29.766 I want to be sure to ask this question. 01:42:33.647 --> 01:42:37.258 Are we able to ask for a specific percentage 01:42:37.516 --> 01:42:38.933 of the TEKS be met. 01:42:40.009 --> 01:42:41.938 As they move forward all three of them. 01:42:42.572 --> 01:42:43.714 You can ask, 01:42:44.060 --> 01:42:44.870 you can ask, 01:42:45.468 --> 01:42:46.236 but again, 01:42:46.512 --> 01:42:47.586 when you offer something, 01:42:48.043 --> 01:42:49.761 the other side has to accept. 01:42:50.384 --> 01:42:51.458 Also when you ask, 01:42:52.048 --> 01:42:53.862 you also need to be prepared 01:42:54.187 --> 01:42:55.740 whether or not you're asking for something 01:42:55.988 --> 01:42:58.226 that will result in a contract. 01:42:58.806 --> 01:43:00.880 If you're asking for 100% alignment, 01:43:01.334 --> 01:43:02.473 90% alignment 01:43:02.780 --> 01:43:05.307 or you're just asking for the results of a uniform 01:43:05.482 --> 01:43:06.476 alignment test, 01:43:06.892 --> 01:43:08.800 that's something that a board will have to decide. 01:43:10.243 --> 01:43:12.896 I can not tell you what that decision will be. 01:43:13.817 --> 01:43:15.595 I do have a question, Monica 01:43:15.807 --> 01:43:16.804 that I'm not understanding. 01:43:16.852 --> 01:43:19.012 On the equating study that we're doing, 01:43:19.191 --> 01:43:20.321 that was part of the contract, 01:43:21.023 --> 01:43:22.692 what's the scope of that, then? 01:43:22.692 --> 01:43:24.241 To me that's what we're talking about here. 01:43:25.031 --> 01:43:27.968 The RFP included language 01:43:28.050 --> 01:43:29.497 about an equating study 01:43:29.497 --> 01:43:30.932 and what this gets at is, 01:43:32.939 --> 01:43:34.510 I think you heard this during the presentations, 01:43:34.564 --> 01:43:36.768 the state of Texas issues the certificate 01:43:36.768 --> 01:43:37.969 of high school equivalency. 01:43:37.969 --> 01:43:38.655 Right. 01:43:38.747 --> 01:43:41.967 These are the tests that an individual would take 01:43:42.672 --> 01:43:44.598 so that a determination could be made 01:43:44.953 --> 01:43:45.947 regarding whether or not 01:43:45.947 --> 01:43:48.640 that individual has earned that certificate. 01:43:49.247 --> 01:43:52.741 If you've got a variety of batteries of tests 01:43:55.200 --> 01:43:57.813 what we've been using that has multiple parts, 01:43:57.813 --> 01:44:00.284 an English part, a Math, Science, Social Studies, 01:44:04.141 --> 01:44:08.753 those may be used in combination in different ways 01:44:08.801 --> 01:44:11.326 on different tests to determine passing 01:44:12.200 --> 01:44:15.330 then part of what the state is going to have to 01:44:15.334 --> 01:44:20.334 figure out is what constitutes passing with respect 01:44:20.478 --> 01:44:23.427 to all of the different potential variations, 01:44:24.103 --> 01:44:26.667 which is not anything that we've had to do before 01:44:27.003 --> 01:44:28.920 because there was one test 01:44:29.095 --> 01:44:33.049 there was one understanding of what would be passing 01:44:33.061 --> 01:44:37.409 to the equating study would attempt to identify 01:44:37.690 --> 01:44:39.997 what would constitute passing 01:44:40.604 --> 01:44:43.522 for each one of those different scenarios. 01:44:45.531 --> 01:44:48.745 That's strictly about the passing thing, I got you. 01:44:49.591 --> 01:44:51.350 I just wanted to make sure I understood what that was. 01:44:51.494 --> 01:44:52.446 Ms. Hardy. 01:44:52.781 --> 01:44:54.313 Yes, Monica, 01:44:54.313 --> 01:44:58.269 I would say that it's unfortunate, but the problem rests 01:44:58.269 --> 01:44:59.482 with the board 01:44:59.482 --> 01:45:02.795 for not being more specific in what we meant 01:45:02.795 --> 01:45:04.638 by the word, 'equating.' 01:45:05.111 --> 01:45:06.941 I don't want you to feel like 01:45:06.941 --> 01:45:08.320 you've let us down in any way 01:45:08.320 --> 01:45:12.677 because we did not make that particularly clear to you 01:45:13.009 --> 01:45:16.399 if we wanted percentages or scores 01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:17.528 or anything like that. 01:45:17.672 --> 01:45:20.376 It was hard when you were doing it to come up with this. 01:45:22.557 --> 01:45:23.708 If I may, I think we may be talking 01:45:23.708 --> 01:45:25.118 about equating differently. 01:45:25.321 --> 01:45:27.738 The equating study was something that we indicated 01:45:27.738 --> 01:45:30.203 we couldn't do until you made a decision. 01:45:32.241 --> 01:45:33.414 Equating to the test. 01:45:33.579 --> 01:45:34.990 Equating of the scores. 01:45:35.322 --> 01:45:38.664 The other issue is alignment to the essential knowledge 01:45:38.664 --> 01:45:39.714 and skills. 01:45:40.564 --> 01:45:44.061 That was a conversation where, I would say, is even difficult 01:45:44.061 --> 01:45:45.535 for the board to make a decision 01:45:45.535 --> 01:45:47.387 about a percentage when you didn't know what you 01:45:47.387 --> 01:45:48.666 were going to get. 01:45:50.727 --> 01:45:52.989 If you had said 100% of the text, 01:45:53.035 --> 01:45:55.096 then you may have automatically 01:45:55.096 --> 01:45:58.801 disqualified any tests that ever existed. 01:45:59.092 --> 01:46:01.468 They are two separate issues I believe. 01:46:01.484 --> 01:46:02.161 I'm sorry. 01:46:02.161 --> 01:46:03.846 I should have used the word, 'alignment,' thank you. 01:46:04.373 --> 01:46:05.567 We didn't make ourselves clear. 01:46:05.810 --> 01:46:08.141 As we're not really making ourselves clear at this moment. 01:46:08.569 --> 01:46:10.461 One of the things that I would like to point out, 01:46:14.187 --> 01:46:15.986 there are vendors right here in town, 01:46:18.492 --> 01:46:21.384 I honestly think in a good faith negotiations, 01:46:21.712 --> 01:46:23.845 all three of these companies would agree to use 01:46:23.845 --> 01:46:24.808 the same vendor. 01:46:25.182 --> 01:46:28.586 They've all made the claim that they are close in alignment 01:46:28.586 --> 01:46:33.203 it's just a peculiar rating of how the rubric is done 01:46:33.203 --> 01:46:33.954 and everything. 01:46:35.568 --> 01:46:38.668 I personally feel like such things as the price change 01:46:39.085 --> 01:46:42.947 shouldn't be such a big issue 01:46:43.088 --> 01:46:47.409 because two of the tests are so much less expensive 01:46:47.454 --> 01:46:48.635 than the other one anyway 01:46:48.709 --> 01:46:50.139 even if there were a price change 01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:54.323 it wouldn't be enough to offset the savings we would get 01:46:55.056 --> 01:46:57.161 if you chose to use a less expensive test. 01:46:57.785 --> 01:47:00.100 That's not a deal breaker for me. 01:47:01.348 --> 01:47:02.828 May I clarify? 01:47:02.828 --> 01:47:03.604 Yeah. 01:47:05.577 --> 01:47:07.339 Just to make sure that we're very clear, 01:47:07.412 --> 01:47:10.503 there's a fee that comes to the state, 01:47:11.382 --> 01:47:13.525 there's the potential for a fee that goes 01:47:13.525 --> 01:47:14.450 to the testing center 01:47:14.549 --> 01:47:15.998 and there's the cost of the test 01:47:16.340 --> 01:47:17.289 that goes to the test provider. 01:47:19.080 --> 01:47:24.080 The state portion of the fee is what comes to us regardless. 01:47:25.357 --> 01:47:27.241 That's the $13 right now? 01:47:27.241 --> 01:47:28.116 $15. 01:47:28.116 --> 01:47:29.543 $15, right. 01:47:30.527 --> 01:47:31.646 Then there's, I believe, 01:47:32.722 --> 01:47:36.258 currently $40 goes to the test center. 01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:39.808 Then there's the cost of the test itself. 01:47:40.988 --> 01:47:41.747 The fact is, 01:47:41.952 --> 01:47:44.886 and it's understandable that you would have to do some 01:47:44.886 --> 01:47:47.328 changes here to accept three different tests 01:47:47.569 --> 01:47:48.940 and one a paper, pencil test 01:47:48.940 --> 01:47:50.548 as opposed to online. 01:47:51.725 --> 01:47:53.499 Test centers will need to prepare as well. 01:47:53.613 --> 01:47:55.865 I should probably mention that we're going to 01:47:55.865 --> 01:47:57.107 have to talk to them about 01:47:57.107 --> 01:48:00.405 what preparation they won't need to make in order 01:48:00.405 --> 01:48:03.597 to be able to offer whatever options you decide. 01:48:04.668 --> 01:48:07.342 Exactly, and some of them may chose to do one thing or another 01:48:08.339 --> 01:48:08.939 or neither. 01:48:08.939 --> 01:48:10.635 It's going to be their call. 01:48:13.710 --> 01:48:16.460 In the balance right now are a lot of students 01:48:16.460 --> 01:48:20.388 have been waiting for the possibility of a new test. 01:48:21.709 --> 01:48:23.245 There a lot of people on hold, 01:48:23.245 --> 01:48:24.317 you heard those people that came 01:48:24.429 --> 01:48:27.887 from my district last September. 01:48:28.504 --> 01:48:33.504 I think that it would be advantageous if we really need 01:48:33.566 --> 01:48:36.466 to see this alignment thing to the TEKS, 01:48:37.485 --> 01:48:40.475 I personally am an old, old school teacher, 01:48:40.807 --> 01:48:45.084 and I trust these people that they're not going to be trying 01:48:45.084 --> 01:48:47.341 to test kids or students 01:48:47.856 --> 01:48:50.294 over things that they wouldn't have taught 01:48:50.294 --> 01:48:54.166 and what they teach is basically the basic 01:48:54.865 --> 01:48:56.576 Math, Science, Social Studies 01:48:56.721 --> 01:49:00.123 and English that we're teaching in the schools. 01:49:00.433 --> 01:49:00.951 In other words, 01:49:00.951 --> 01:49:03.831 they're not going to go out in another area to try 01:49:03.964 --> 01:49:05.459 and teach the students 01:49:05.747 --> 01:49:06.886 and then test them on something 01:49:07.165 --> 01:49:08.986 that's not what we basically teach 01:49:09.302 --> 01:49:11.022 in the areas of the standards. 01:49:11.716 --> 01:49:13.394 May I make one distinction at the end? 01:49:13.495 --> 01:49:14.782 Yes. 01:49:14.782 --> 01:49:16.365 You may be saying what I think you're saying, 01:49:16.365 --> 01:49:17.301 but I just want to be clear 01:49:17.485 --> 01:49:19.025 I think you're talking about what's being tested, 01:49:19.025 --> 01:49:20.406 not what's being taught. 01:49:21.115 --> 01:49:25.511 Adult Basic Ed providers who do the teaching only teach, 01:49:26.136 --> 01:49:26.966 we believe, 01:49:26.970 --> 01:49:30.298 less than half of the individuals that actually go 01:49:30.298 --> 01:49:31.370 and take a test. 01:49:31.410 --> 01:49:34.204 I think what you're talking about is what is being tested, 01:49:34.937 --> 01:49:37.237 not what's being taught in an ABE program 01:49:37.237 --> 01:49:39.245 because that also is a separate issue. 01:49:39.737 --> 01:49:41.951 Yes, I am talking about what's being tested. 01:49:43.241 --> 01:49:44.765 I would prefer that we just go ahead 01:49:44.765 --> 01:49:46.229 and approve the three vendors 01:49:46.755 --> 01:49:49.118 and if we still need to negotiate 01:49:49.329 --> 01:49:54.329 some sort of uniform check for our own knowledge, 01:49:55.579 --> 01:49:59.620 I think that the three vendors would find that this business 01:49:59.620 --> 01:50:02.650 would be lucrative enough to pay for that review 01:50:03.919 --> 01:50:05.494 and the board would feel happier about 01:50:05.494 --> 01:50:07.966 its alignment with our standards. 01:50:12.386 --> 01:50:14.475 I want to go back because we had a big discussion 01:50:14.752 --> 01:50:17.842 during this whole thing about the lexile level of the test 01:50:18.718 --> 01:50:19.804 that kind of equating. 01:50:21.432 --> 01:50:22.947 Did that end up in a term 01:50:23.019 --> 01:50:24.508 because I guess I'm a little confused 01:50:24.610 --> 01:50:26.260 how did we lose that 01:50:26.938 --> 01:50:28.481 in not giving clear direction 01:50:28.951 --> 01:50:32.284 if that wasn't required to have some understanding 01:50:32.543 --> 01:50:35.126 that these tests are at the same level they're at. 01:50:37.098 --> 01:50:38.679 Did we do anything with that, 01:50:38.965 --> 01:50:39.725 or not really? 01:50:39.778 --> 01:50:40.554 I apologize. 01:50:40.559 --> 01:50:44.262 I don't remember a discussion about lexile levels 01:50:44.660 --> 01:50:46.791 specifically that's one specific thing. 01:50:47.375 --> 01:50:50.307 We had a lot of conversation about an equating study 01:50:52.174 --> 01:50:54.271 both in the decision-making phase 01:50:54.271 --> 01:50:55.955 and the approval of the RFP phase. 01:50:56.758 --> 01:50:57.781 We did make it clear 01:50:57.795 --> 01:50:59.977 that would be a step that we would undertake 01:51:00.057 --> 01:51:02.806 once you made a decision about what you wanted. 01:51:03.570 --> 01:51:05.276 I think it was probably my fault 01:51:05.389 --> 01:51:07.390 for not understanding the term, 'equating,' 01:51:07.991 --> 01:51:10.149 I didn't realize we were talking about equating of scores 01:51:10.844 --> 01:51:13.371 to make sure the scores had some equating across. 01:51:13.549 --> 01:51:15.908 I think that was probably my fault. 01:51:15.917 --> 01:51:16.927 Yes, Ms. Cargill. 01:51:19.573 --> 01:51:20.659 The only thing that I was going to say is 01:51:20.659 --> 01:51:23.343 I would personally not be comfortable 01:51:23.565 --> 01:51:28.555 saying we require that you meet 80% of the TEKS 01:51:28.555 --> 01:51:31.196 or 90%, because I would have to do that based on research. 01:51:33.277 --> 01:51:37.886 We just let the three vendors turn in how they align 01:51:37.886 --> 01:51:38.765 with the TEKS, 01:51:38.765 --> 01:51:40.606 and then make judgement after that. 01:51:40.833 --> 01:51:42.211 That's the only comment I was going to make. 01:51:42.829 --> 01:51:47.126 It would be a non-research based decision if we just said 01:51:47.126 --> 01:51:48.545 we think you should cover 80% of the TEKS 01:51:48.545 --> 01:51:49.951 and like Monica said earlier, 01:51:50.727 --> 01:51:53.519 that could knock out all of the tests, all of the vendors. 01:51:55.014 --> 01:51:58.293 Specifically we were told, but I think all of them are using the 01:51:58.293 --> 01:52:00.280 National College and Career Readiness Standards 01:52:00.418 --> 01:52:01.527 as their basis. 01:52:03.385 --> 01:52:04.785 This is a national test. 01:52:04.785 --> 01:52:06.692 It's not a Texas-specific test. 01:52:06.955 --> 01:52:08.741 If I'm saying this right, correct? 01:52:10.935 --> 01:52:12.200 You're correct that those are not 01:52:12.200 --> 01:52:13.438 Texas-based standards. 01:52:14.712 --> 01:52:15.780 Mr. Cortez. 01:52:16.921 --> 01:52:17.886 Mr. Ratliff, 01:52:17.886 --> 01:52:18.891 have you spoken? 01:52:18.891 --> 01:52:19.829 Ok, Mr. Ratliff first. 01:52:21.500 --> 01:52:23.734 I would like to add a contingency to the motion. 01:52:25.038 --> 01:52:26.300 After talking with staff, 01:52:26.300 --> 01:52:29.727 the important thing is for us to have a common rubric 01:52:30.452 --> 01:52:32.779 that lays out the percentage of TEKS coverage 01:52:32.970 --> 01:52:34.508 for those five courses. 01:52:35.137 --> 01:52:36.992 They're not as concerned about having the same vendor 01:52:37.049 --> 01:52:38.576 as they are with having the same rubric 01:52:38.576 --> 01:52:40.496 that addresses percentage of TEKS 01:52:40.496 --> 01:52:42.500 covered for those five courses only, 01:52:43.007 --> 01:52:44.750 not that subject matter generally. 01:52:46.140 --> 01:52:47.625 The motion is to approve all three, 01:52:47.781 --> 01:52:49.171 I would like to add the contingency 01:52:49.690 --> 01:52:53.625 that all three vendors provide the same rubric 01:52:54.456 --> 01:52:56.339 that details the percentage of 01:52:56.339 --> 01:53:00.057 TEKS alignment for those five specific courses. 01:53:03.791 --> 01:53:05.109 Hold on just a minute. 01:53:06.546 --> 01:53:08.896 You would like to say in addition to the recommendation 01:53:08.909 --> 01:53:11.118 would be to recommend that the State Board of Education 01:53:11.130 --> 01:53:13.370 prove all three vendors as test providers 01:53:13.370 --> 01:53:16.470 of Texas Certification 01:53:17.101 --> 01:53:18.488 of High School Equivalency, with the contingency 01:53:21.178 --> 01:53:22.633 and that 01:53:24.413 --> 01:53:28.922 The vendors provide a percentage of TEKS 01:53:28.996 --> 01:53:31.217 covered for the 01:53:31.217 --> 01:53:36.217 five specific courses listed in the RFP 01:53:42.386 --> 01:53:43.238 Just one second. 01:53:46.455 --> 01:53:47.574 Hold on just a minute. 01:53:48.197 --> 01:53:49.380 The vendors provide 01:53:49.446 --> 01:53:50.809 a percentage of TEKS covered. 01:53:52.425 --> 01:53:53.834 What was the other, Thomas? 01:53:55.517 --> 01:53:56.818 Percentage of TEKS covered. 01:53:57.283 --> 01:53:58.687 For the five courses. 01:53:59.488 --> 01:54:00.760 For each of the five. 01:54:01.269 --> 01:54:02.879 And only the five. 01:54:02.950 --> 01:54:04.210 Of the five courses. 01:54:05.654 --> 01:54:07.082 Specified in the RFP. 01:54:18.056 --> 01:54:21.236 Now, Christine did you want to address that? 01:54:21.489 --> 01:54:23.380 I just wanted to clarify that when 01:54:23.380 --> 01:54:24.326 you say, "approve," 01:54:24.326 --> 01:54:27.483 it's approving then moving forward to be considered 01:54:28.008 --> 01:54:30.750 and it's not approving that we will enter into a contract. 01:54:31.137 --> 01:54:33.587 It's approval that all three are still in the running. 01:54:34.182 --> 01:54:37.332 I wanted to see what was the board's understanding. 01:54:39.154 --> 01:54:40.278 That's a very different vote. 01:54:43.143 --> 01:54:45.211 The recommendation was to approve. 01:54:47.255 --> 01:54:48.127 Right, can I 01:54:48.127 --> 01:54:48.914 speak to my motion? 01:54:48.914 --> 01:54:49.470 Yes. 01:54:49.849 --> 01:54:50.574 To that point, 01:54:50.574 --> 01:54:53.634 they would be approved once they provided this contingency. 01:54:53.651 --> 01:54:55.188 Once they've satisfied this contingency, 01:54:55.188 --> 01:54:56.998 we would not be setting a threshold number 01:54:57.209 --> 01:55:00.508 it's just we want to know what your number is for these 01:55:00.508 --> 01:55:02.639 five courses and only these five courses. 01:55:03.292 --> 01:55:05.286 That's the piece that we're missing from all three vendors 01:55:05.286 --> 01:55:08.332 essentially is just tell me what your alignment 01:55:08.332 --> 01:55:10.479 is with these five course that we specified. 01:55:11.002 --> 01:55:12.706 You won't have a decision after that 01:55:12.721 --> 01:55:13.724 that will change. 01:55:13.740 --> 01:55:15.669 One that information is presented. 01:55:17.258 --> 01:55:18.106 The public is aware 01:55:18.106 --> 01:55:20.178 and the board is aware of what their coverage is. 01:55:22.160 --> 01:55:23.865 So, you're not changing the approval 01:55:24.297 --> 01:55:25.234 or the recommendation, 01:55:25.241 --> 01:55:27.587 it's just that this is part of the 01:55:28.045 --> 01:55:29.382 final thing. 01:55:30.558 --> 01:55:33.771 Mr. Cortez. 01:55:36.041 --> 01:55:40.442 That it meet a minimum of 85% of TEKS coverage 01:55:40.532 --> 01:55:42.329 on those five specific courses. 01:55:43.633 --> 01:55:44.813 Is there a second? 01:55:48.592 --> 01:55:53.592 I think that's still being generous at 85%. 01:55:55.862 --> 01:55:57.563 The expectations should be set high. 01:55:57.844 --> 01:56:01.824 Just the other day I read an article Texas ranks 43rd 01:56:01.832 --> 01:56:02.840 in the nation. 01:56:05.296 --> 01:56:06.819 I'm sorry I can't, 01:56:07.058 --> 01:56:08.579 just like one of my colleagues mentioned, 01:56:08.580 --> 01:56:10.705 trust that they're going to do the right thing. 01:56:11.883 --> 01:56:13.609 I think it needs to be verified. 01:56:14.479 --> 01:56:19.479 I think we need to hold everybody to that high level standard. 01:56:20.203 --> 01:56:22.061 I think 85 is still low, 01:56:22.562 --> 01:56:25.242 but I think it's palpable for some of the members 01:56:25.242 --> 01:56:26.566 on this board. 01:56:32.559 --> 01:56:34.083 Yes, Mr. Ratliff. 01:56:35.116 --> 01:56:37.326 I want to stand in opposition to the amendment. 01:56:38.263 --> 01:56:39.743 I think we need to be careful here 01:56:39.743 --> 01:56:41.963 because while 85 sounds like a good number, 01:56:41.963 --> 01:56:46.963 I think nobody on this board opposes, or doesn't want these vendors 01:56:47.296 --> 01:56:48.682 to meet 100%. 01:56:48.957 --> 01:56:50.228 That would be the goal. 01:56:50.657 --> 01:56:51.879 We also have to keep in mind, 01:56:51.929 --> 01:56:53.481 these companies have a brand name. 01:56:54.506 --> 01:56:56.534 They're not going to go out there 01:56:56.534 --> 01:56:57.796 and put a garbage test in front of these students 01:56:57.796 --> 01:56:58.809 that's meaningless. 01:56:58.832 --> 01:57:00.824 When that student takes it to an employer 01:57:00.838 --> 01:57:02.804 or to an institution of higher education 01:57:03.353 --> 01:57:06.017 or whatever their purpose of taking this test, 01:57:06.726 --> 01:57:11.726 if it becomes publicly aware that that test is meaningless, 01:57:12.107 --> 01:57:13.947 that company wil not be around very long. 01:57:14.501 --> 01:57:17.683 We are dealing with three companies that have broad exposure 01:57:17.693 --> 01:57:18.760 around the country, 01:57:19.084 --> 01:57:20.629 multiple states under contract. 01:57:21.647 --> 01:57:26.470 I don't think we need to follow up on what my colleague 01:57:26.470 --> 01:57:27.267 said earlier. 01:57:27.896 --> 01:57:29.734 We're just picking a number out of thin air. 01:57:29.759 --> 01:57:30.986 We have no scientific 01:57:30.986 --> 01:57:33.245 or research basis of is 85 the right number, 01:57:33.256 --> 01:57:34.182 is 65, 01:57:34.182 --> 01:57:34.974 is 95? 01:57:35.583 --> 01:57:37.772 I think we need to trust these folks that have 01:57:37.772 --> 01:57:40.814 multiple states under contract to protect 01:57:40.814 --> 01:57:41.540 their brand name 01:57:41.540 --> 01:57:43.094 or to protect the integrity of the test. 01:57:43.794 --> 01:57:46.266 Are you addressing the 85% as well, 01:57:46.266 --> 01:57:47.055 Mr. Rowley? 01:57:54.671 --> 01:57:56.188 I'll address the 85%. 01:57:56.839 --> 01:57:57.970 I'm opposed to it. 01:57:58.376 --> 01:57:59.880 (laughter) 01:58:00.189 --> 01:58:01.496 Ok, ok. 01:58:06.489 --> 01:58:07.460 I'd like to go ahead 01:58:07.460 --> 01:58:11.014 and either pass on the 85%. 01:58:13.748 --> 01:58:15.308 Are you ready for the question? 01:58:16.605 --> 01:58:21.605 The amendment would be the original amendment 01:58:22.525 --> 01:58:24.914 to the amendment we would add the phrase, 01:58:24.914 --> 01:58:27.822 "The minimum shall be 85% alignment with Texas standards." 01:58:30.435 --> 01:58:32.725 Right, we say for each, ok. 01:58:34.844 --> 01:58:38.751 So, all those in favor of the amendment stating 85% 01:58:39.356 --> 01:58:41.782 minimum alignment with Texas standards raise your hand. 01:58:43.916 --> 01:58:45.614 All those opposed to adding that. 01:58:47.228 --> 01:58:48.426 Ok, motion fails. 01:58:49.268 --> 01:58:53.610 Now we're back to the original amendment that we're talking 01:58:53.610 --> 01:58:55.606 about which is to recommend the State Board of Education 01:58:55.606 --> 01:58:57.576 to approve all three vendors as test providers 01:58:57.576 --> 01:59:00.337 for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency 01:59:00.500 --> 01:59:05.292 and that the vendors provide a percentage of TEKS covered 01:59:05.292 --> 01:59:08.535 for each of the five courses specified in the RFP. 01:59:10.730 --> 01:59:11.892 To add these words. 01:59:18.312 --> 01:59:19.550 Yes, Mr. Rowley. 01:59:19.559 --> 01:59:20.432 Ok, so my 01:59:20.432 --> 01:59:21.781 understanding is we're now discussing 01:59:21.789 --> 01:59:23.527 and about to vote just the amendment. 01:59:23.585 --> 01:59:24.385 Just his amendment. 01:59:24.385 --> 01:59:25.542 That they provide that contingency, okay. 01:59:25.658 --> 01:59:29.581 My question to legal, Ms. Wong, 01:59:29.581 --> 01:59:34.581 is so let's say we pass the main motion, 01:59:38.486 --> 01:59:40.266 three vendors are approved 01:59:40.950 --> 01:59:44.834 and then this additional information comes forth 01:59:45.421 --> 01:59:47.228 that we're talking about in the amendment. 01:59:48.767 --> 01:59:52.034 What are we at liberty to do at that point 01:59:52.268 --> 01:59:53.950 with regard to the approval. 01:59:57.464 --> 01:59:59.044 I think also for clearer guidance 01:59:59.384 --> 02:00:00.470 if you want to offer 02:00:00.470 --> 02:00:05.389 this to the vendors is who is setting the rubric 02:00:05.513 --> 02:00:08.755 and who do they go to to have this assessment? 02:00:09.098 --> 02:00:11.638 How are you choosing that uniform vendor? 02:00:12.132 --> 02:00:16.411 I think some of those details need to be clarified as well. 02:00:17.022 --> 02:00:18.117 Aside from that, 02:00:18.154 --> 02:00:23.154 my question is, if we add this additional requirement, 02:00:25.055 --> 02:00:27.080 yet we've already approved three vendors, 02:00:27.522 --> 02:00:28.843 what is the effect of that? 02:00:29.267 --> 02:00:30.983 It more sounds like to me that this 02:00:30.983 --> 02:00:32.862 is a further negotiation. 02:00:32.909 --> 02:00:33.867 It's a counteroffer 02:00:33.867 --> 02:00:35.507 or it's an offer where they can accept it 02:00:35.507 --> 02:00:36.481 or reject it. 02:00:36.730 --> 02:00:39.012 The next level is we want to move forward 02:00:39.394 --> 02:00:40.815 with all three of you 02:00:41.317 --> 02:00:43.943 and we want you to provide this information. 02:00:44.396 --> 02:00:45.092 They can agree 02:00:45.092 --> 02:00:46.282 or they can not agree. 02:00:47.312 --> 02:00:49.746 If I'm understanding correctly 02:00:49.778 --> 02:00:52.134 and please respond to this, 02:00:52.370 --> 02:00:57.370 so if we pass the amendment that Mr. Ratliff has proposed, 02:00:57.959 --> 02:01:02.433 then by our vote today we are not approving 02:01:02.710 --> 02:01:05.044 and accepting all three vendors. 02:01:05.705 --> 02:01:07.939 We are essential saying that all three vendors are still 02:01:07.969 --> 02:01:09.277 in the running. 02:01:09.475 --> 02:01:11.701 Once you provide the additional information, 02:01:12.192 --> 02:01:17.192 we'll have another vote to decide if all three of them meet 02:01:19.734 --> 02:01:20.731 the requirements 02:01:20.785 --> 02:01:21.841 and are approved. 02:01:21.841 --> 02:01:22.734 Is that correct? 02:01:23.467 --> 02:01:24.346 I don't want to put words in 02:01:24.346 --> 02:01:25.261 Mr. Ratliff's mouth. 02:01:25.622 --> 02:01:28.870 What I'm asking legal the effect of passing 02:01:28.870 --> 02:01:30.828 this amendment by adding an additional contingency 02:01:31.249 --> 02:01:32.792 that wasn't in the RFP. 02:01:33.330 --> 02:01:34.441 Is that correct? 02:01:37.425 --> 02:01:38.283 Mr. Rowley, 02:01:38.340 --> 02:01:39.260 I'm not legal, 02:01:40.213 --> 02:01:45.213 I think our understanding is you make a determination 02:01:46.367 --> 02:01:48.522 about who you want us to move forward with. 02:01:48.892 --> 02:01:51.845 I think what Ms. Wong is trying to explain 02:01:51.845 --> 02:01:54.995 is that we can go back and say you're approved 02:01:54.995 --> 02:01:56.370 with this contingency 02:01:56.413 --> 02:01:58.652 and they can say I don't agree to that. 02:01:58.652 --> 02:02:01.172 They would pull themselves out of the running. 02:02:01.442 --> 02:02:03.424 Not that we're going to do this extra work 02:02:03.424 --> 02:02:04.716 and then come back to you 02:02:04.716 --> 02:02:07.569 and say, "is that ok?" 02:02:08.784 --> 02:02:13.784 My question is our vote today a conditional approval 02:02:13.927 --> 02:02:15.832 if we add an additional contingency? 02:02:16.641 --> 02:02:18.559 I think the board needs to be clear 02:02:20.704 --> 02:02:23.074 in the motions that they're making 02:02:23.394 --> 02:02:25.434 about what you want staff to do with this. 02:02:25.434 --> 02:02:29.948 We need to know is the intent of the board 02:02:29.948 --> 02:02:34.472 and on this motion is to approve the subject to them 02:02:34.708 --> 02:02:36.611 supplying a rubric then it doesn't matter 02:02:36.611 --> 02:02:38.196 what the results of the rubric is. 02:02:39.129 --> 02:02:42.499 Or are we entering into a second round of negotiations 02:02:42.533 --> 02:02:45.116 and coming back in April with the results of that 02:02:45.116 --> 02:02:47.089 for the board to make a decision. 02:02:47.372 --> 02:02:51.747 We don't know from the wording of 02:02:51.747 --> 02:02:52.715 The amendment. 02:02:52.715 --> 02:02:55.004 The motion what your direction is. 02:02:55.045 --> 02:02:56.220 I understand that. 02:02:56.220 --> 02:02:58.176 i think we all have that question 02:02:58.176 --> 02:02:59.794 and it's one I continue to pose. 02:02:59.969 --> 02:03:00.799 Ok. 02:03:00.799 --> 02:03:02.300 I'll try it one more time. 02:03:02.343 --> 02:03:04.546 I'll use different words to try to convey the same meaning. 02:03:07.157 --> 02:03:07.666 Do you want me to speak to the intent 02:03:07.666 --> 02:03:08.497 on the motion? 02:03:11.145 --> 02:03:15.431 What I heard in both of Von's responses 02:03:15.573 --> 02:03:18.440 is it's either a new negotiation 02:03:18.713 --> 02:03:20.944 or it's an additional contingency. 02:03:21.417 --> 02:03:22.618 Beyond that. 02:03:22.618 --> 02:03:23.968 However we clarify it. 02:03:24.154 --> 02:03:24.984 Am I hearing that correctly? 02:03:24.984 --> 02:03:27.358 The clarification is this is our final offer. 02:03:28.416 --> 02:03:31.458 We will accept all three, if all three provide us 02:03:31.458 --> 02:03:32.793 with this information 02:03:32.793 --> 02:03:33.846 and that's it. 02:03:33.846 --> 02:03:35.684 Then you have no other discussion about 02:03:35.684 --> 02:03:37.242 what that information means. 02:03:38.123 --> 02:03:41.656 That seems like what Mr. Ratliff is proposing, 02:03:41.663 --> 02:03:43.055 and he's nodding his head. 02:03:43.186 --> 02:03:46.146 The other one is, we want you to move forward 02:03:46.346 --> 02:03:47.857 with further discusssions, 02:03:48.320 --> 02:03:49.924 provide us with more information 02:03:50.146 --> 02:03:51.773 and once we get that information, 02:03:52.047 --> 02:03:54.834 we then can make another decision. 02:03:56.755 --> 02:03:57.576 Got ya. 02:03:58.079 --> 02:03:58.964 Mr. Ratliff, 02:03:58.964 --> 02:04:00.630 that seems to be a clarification 02:04:00.630 --> 02:04:01.424 of what you were trying to talk about. 02:04:01.424 --> 02:04:02.887 As the maker of the motion, 02:04:03.244 --> 02:04:04.880 the main motion is worded as, 02:04:05.234 --> 02:04:07.717 "The State Board of Education approve all three vendors 02:04:07.717 --> 02:04:08.833 as test providers." 02:04:09.798 --> 02:04:12.428 So, I'm adding, "contingent on them supplying this, 02:04:12.778 --> 02:04:13.870 they are approved." 02:04:14.006 --> 02:04:15.519 There would be no need for another vote. 02:04:15.989 --> 02:04:19.021 You are hereby approved once you turn in this last piece 02:04:19.207 --> 02:04:20.249 of information. 02:04:21.384 --> 02:04:24.695 What we need is an apples to apples comparison for public 02:04:24.695 --> 02:04:27.802 to be aware of the percentage of TEKS covered for these 02:04:27.802 --> 02:04:28.885 five subjects. 02:04:29.407 --> 02:04:30.694 So in this case, 02:04:30.949 --> 02:04:32.153 if I can say, 02:04:32.800 --> 02:04:37.551 you want an FYI, he's saying well what if I don't like 02:04:37.551 --> 02:04:38.229 what I see 02:04:38.229 --> 02:04:40.389 and now I have no recourse 02:04:40.522 --> 02:04:42.472 because we've just approved all the vendors 02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:44.196 and all they have to do is provide the grid. 02:04:44.494 --> 02:04:45.299 Madam Chair. 02:04:46.627 --> 02:04:48.663 Ms. Beltran's first 02:04:48.829 --> 02:04:49.843 and then you Mr. Bradley 02:04:49.843 --> 02:04:51.861 and that's what I've got right now. 02:04:52.325 --> 02:04:52.993 Thank you Madam Chair. 02:04:52.993 --> 02:04:54.113 I had very similar questions 02:04:54.113 --> 02:04:54.945 so thank you for asking. 02:04:55.892 --> 02:05:00.892 It seems as though if we're going to make that motion 02:05:02.232 --> 02:05:03.344 and approve that motion, 02:05:03.394 --> 02:05:05.293 I also don't see any value 02:05:05.331 --> 02:05:06.843 in having that information if we're not going to do 02:05:06.843 --> 02:05:07.940 anything with it. 02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:11.359 I would like to have that information 02:05:11.939 --> 02:05:13.172 and then have the option 02:05:13.333 --> 02:05:16.693 of saying, "okay, if one of these providers falls below 02:05:17.644 --> 02:05:19.842 50% alignment with TEKS, 02:05:20.223 --> 02:05:21.647 then they shouldn't even be in the mix." 02:05:21.647 --> 02:05:23.427 I think it's fine to have options, 02:05:23.700 --> 02:05:25.416 but I also don't want to water down 02:05:25.801 --> 02:05:26.887 what options we have. 02:05:26.887 --> 02:05:29.028 It's kind of, if we talk about charter schools 02:05:29.028 --> 02:05:30.453 and we want to give people a choice, 02:05:30.453 --> 02:05:33.432 but we don't want to give people a choice of a poor option. 02:05:33.573 --> 02:05:34.966 I don't think that's good policy, 02:05:35.345 --> 02:05:37.850 I don't think that's a good step for our community 02:05:37.850 --> 02:05:38.851 and our state. 02:05:41.875 --> 02:05:42.971 Mr. Bradley, 02:05:42.971 --> 02:05:43.503 you were next. 02:05:43.995 --> 02:05:45.052 Then, Ms. Hardy. 02:05:48.578 --> 02:05:49.742 I want to state the amendment again. 02:05:49.742 --> 02:05:51.434 I just want to make sure that we're understanding. 02:05:54.993 --> 02:05:57.072 "The recommendation is that State Board of Education 02:05:57.115 --> 02:05:59.773 approve all three vendors as test providers 02:05:59.957 --> 02:06:02.470 for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency 02:06:02.470 --> 02:06:06.831 contigent upon the vendors providing a percentage of TEKS 02:06:06.831 --> 02:06:10.137 covered for each of the five courses specified in the RFP." 02:06:10.788 --> 02:06:13.363 We're voting on just the addition of that information. 02:06:13.751 --> 02:06:15.341 It's an FYI, 02:06:17.190 --> 02:06:18.854 because we've already approved it once they provide it. 02:06:19.002 --> 02:06:20.113 Madam Chair, 02:06:20.113 --> 02:06:21.810 I think I may have a solution. 02:06:22.060 --> 02:06:23.568 Ok, Mr. Bradley. 02:06:23.568 --> 02:06:25.314 It's something we've used on the PSF. 02:06:26.173 --> 02:06:28.552 After staff having listened to all the input, 02:06:29.566 --> 02:06:32.556 we do have the authority to authorize the Commissioner 02:06:32.556 --> 02:06:33.744 to move forward 02:06:33.744 --> 02:06:34.958 and negotiate the contract. 02:06:35.296 --> 02:06:37.061 It doesn't have to come back to us. 02:06:37.139 --> 02:06:39.878 I would like to add to the end of the motion the words, 02:06:40.231 --> 02:06:42.853 "and authorize the Commissioner to negotiate 02:06:43.238 --> 02:06:44.758 acceptable contracts." 02:06:47.114 --> 02:06:48.403 Acceptable contracts? 02:06:48.790 --> 02:06:49.813 Appropriate. 02:06:50.215 --> 02:06:52.012 Okay, what's 02:06:52.012 --> 02:06:53.012 'appropriate' mean? 02:06:53.277 --> 02:06:55.207 I'm giving it to the Commissioner. 02:06:57.564 --> 02:06:58.459 Ok, but then 02:06:58.459 --> 02:06:59.363 we're not approving it, 02:06:59.363 --> 02:07:00.351 he's approving it 02:07:00.351 --> 02:07:03.253 because he's going to set the percentage of what he feels. 02:07:04.139 --> 02:07:04.741 Ok, I just 02:07:04.741 --> 02:07:05.773 want to make sure I'm understanding. 02:07:05.848 --> 02:07:08.210 We're authorizing these are the three guys 02:07:08.729 --> 02:07:09.631 we want to do business with, 02:07:09.677 --> 02:07:11.995 we put a contingency that they have to provide 02:07:11.995 --> 02:07:13.037 the information 02:07:13.384 --> 02:07:15.854 and it will be published for FYI information 02:07:15.854 --> 02:07:16.949 for the community 02:07:16.949 --> 02:07:18.693 and with that contingency, 02:07:18.774 --> 02:07:20.924 we're authorizing the Commissioner to move forward 02:07:21.112 --> 02:07:22.329 and execute contracts. 02:07:23.793 --> 02:07:24.894 And we're done. 02:07:25.509 --> 02:07:28.680 Ok, because my 02:07:28.680 --> 02:07:29.473 understanding, 02:07:29.473 --> 02:07:31.295 and, Monica, please clear this up for me, 02:07:31.562 --> 02:07:34.714 is that we are the ones who decide some of the terms 02:07:34.714 --> 02:07:36.421 of the contract as part of it. 02:07:36.763 --> 02:07:38.347 of what we're going to talk about in April. 02:07:38.543 --> 02:07:39.628 If we do this, 02:07:40.625 --> 02:07:42.144 it takes it out of our hands 02:07:42.144 --> 02:07:43.000 as I'm understanding it. 02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:43.773 Is this correct? 02:07:44.284 --> 02:07:45.985 I think Christine needs to answer that 02:07:45.998 --> 02:07:47.345 particular question, 02:07:47.611 --> 02:07:48.632 I'm sorry. 02:07:54.771 --> 02:07:56.644 He wanted to ask a question to the maker of the motion. 02:07:56.869 --> 02:07:58.518 Did you want to, too, Pat? 02:08:01.891 --> 02:08:03.077 Mine's on the motion. 02:08:03.084 --> 02:08:03.711 Ok, actually, 02:08:03.711 --> 02:08:04.474 we need a second. 02:08:04.705 --> 02:08:05.756 We got one. 02:08:05.792 --> 02:08:06.398 Oh, you 02:08:06.398 --> 02:08:07.018 did get a second. 02:08:07.018 --> 02:08:07.714 I missed it. 02:08:09.036 --> 02:08:11.626 Did you want to go back to it 02:08:11.626 --> 02:08:13.146 or did you want to ask him a question? 02:08:16.010 --> 02:08:17.547 (muffled speech) 02:08:17.547 --> 02:08:18.553 To that question, okay. 02:08:19.751 --> 02:08:22.029 Seriously, we've 02:08:22.029 --> 02:08:23.129 gone through interviews, 02:08:23.129 --> 02:08:23.847 and interviews, 02:08:23.896 --> 02:08:24.637 and interviews. 02:08:26.047 --> 02:08:26.791 Ok, that's 02:08:26.791 --> 02:08:27.320 not a question. 02:08:27.810 --> 02:08:29.486 You want to hand it over to the Commissioner? 02:08:30.750 --> 02:08:34.501 We're going to poll the board to see if they 02:08:34.501 --> 02:08:36.254 want to dispose of this once 02:08:36.254 --> 02:08:37.100 and for all. 02:08:37.452 --> 02:08:38.572 We can move on. 02:08:38.763 --> 02:08:40.160 I just speak against the motion. 02:08:40.160 --> 02:08:40.916 Speak against the motion. 02:08:40.916 --> 02:08:41.889 Ok, Ms. Hardy. 02:08:42.046 --> 02:08:47.046 It's my understanding by the motion as it is right now, 02:08:49.713 --> 02:08:52.333 we would vote on all three vendors 02:08:53.302 --> 02:08:57.450 and they simply have to provide this alignment. 02:08:58.821 --> 02:09:03.476 We would be in a position, then, to let the public know 02:09:03.476 --> 02:09:04.590 what that alignment is. 02:09:05.144 --> 02:09:08.565 If one of them came out with a 20% alignment 02:09:08.879 --> 02:09:11.327 to the standards 02:09:11.921 --> 02:09:13.626 and they chose to do that, 02:09:14.017 --> 02:09:17.833 then that would show poor judgment on their part to do it. 02:09:18.775 --> 02:09:19.695 No, because 02:09:19.695 --> 02:09:22.839 we would have put those out there. 02:09:23.370 --> 02:09:28.284 They all claim that they're up there in the 80 percentile. 02:09:37.852 --> 02:09:39.787 I think we need to go back to the original thing. 02:09:40.051 --> 02:09:40.754 Let's just go ahead 02:09:40.754 --> 02:09:41.696 and approve all three of them 02:09:41.696 --> 02:09:42.585 and go forth. 02:09:42.979 --> 02:09:43.778 Mr. Rowley. 02:09:44.120 --> 02:09:45.584 I agree with Ms. Hardy in that regard 02:09:45.930 --> 02:09:48.636 because here's the problem, 02:09:49.147 --> 02:09:53.703 we're setting up a contingency upon which 02:09:53.767 --> 02:09:56.907 we can't take action thereafter. 02:09:57.435 --> 02:09:59.409 If my understanding is they come back, 02:09:59.409 --> 02:10:00.838 one's 20%, 02:10:00.917 --> 02:10:01.945 one's 40% 02:10:02.235 --> 02:10:03.424 and one's 100%, 02:10:03.678 --> 02:10:05.047 we've proved all three. 02:10:06.106 --> 02:10:07.166 What I believe is, 02:10:07.184 --> 02:10:08.845 they're all aligned with the TEKS, 02:10:08.916 --> 02:10:11.178 ot they wouldn't have passed the RFP. 02:10:11.523 --> 02:10:12.911 They would not have qualified. 02:10:12.911 --> 02:10:15.001 They all did their test, 02:10:15.780 --> 02:10:17.503 did it on different rubrics perhaps, 02:10:17.978 --> 02:10:18.765 but they all did it 02:10:18.765 --> 02:10:20.242 and said yes we're aligned with the TEKS, 02:10:20.474 --> 02:10:21.939 we all meet your requirements. 02:10:22.494 --> 02:10:24.134 I'm ready to vote today on all three of them. 02:10:24.652 --> 02:10:26.666 If we set up this additional contingency 02:10:27.333 --> 02:10:29.993 and we don't know any contingency, 02:10:30.207 --> 02:10:31.492 we don't know the result, 02:10:31.685 --> 02:10:33.208 we don't know what that's going to look like. 02:10:33.667 --> 02:10:38.182 Why set a trap for either them or us, 02:10:38.848 --> 02:10:40.246 that we don't have to set. 02:10:40.569 --> 02:10:41.927 We can decide today. 02:10:42.296 --> 02:10:46.761 The whole purpose in this multi-vendor approach, 02:10:46.830 --> 02:10:47.887 in my opinion, 02:10:48.211 --> 02:10:51.142 is to let the market set the tone. 02:10:51.816 --> 02:10:54.623 The market gets to decide who's the best provider 02:10:54.914 --> 02:10:56.085 either on price, 02:10:56.203 --> 02:10:57.734 quality, alignment, 02:10:57.892 --> 02:10:58.954 whatever it may be. 02:10:58.954 --> 02:11:00.852 They've met the requirements, 02:11:01.509 --> 02:11:05.552 we shouldn't set up a contingency that can only bring 02:11:06.415 --> 02:11:09.121 doubt as to the decision we're making today to approve 02:11:09.121 --> 02:11:10.105 all three. 02:11:11.130 --> 02:11:13.095 Right now, we are debating. 02:11:13.432 --> 02:11:16.672 The motion before us is to add 02:11:16.715 --> 02:11:19.259 and authorize the commissioner to move forward 02:11:19.340 --> 02:11:20.549 and execute the contract. 02:11:21.415 --> 02:11:22.708 Then we'll go back to. 02:11:24.292 --> 02:11:25.409 I think we have to do his first 02:11:25.575 --> 02:11:26.365 and then yours. 02:11:26.370 --> 02:11:27.626 Yes, Mr. Bradley. 02:11:27.674 --> 02:11:29.370 I think my motion may have been in error 02:11:29.370 --> 02:11:33.717 because we had not disposed of his amendment to require the 02:11:35.843 --> 02:11:36.844 I need to withdraw mine 02:11:37.386 --> 02:11:39.355 and we need to dispose of his first amendment. 02:11:39.575 --> 02:11:40.920 Which I would like to withdraw. 02:11:41.402 --> 02:11:42.536 That would dispose of it. 02:11:43.321 --> 02:11:44.595 If there is no objection, 02:11:45.770 --> 02:11:47.318 we will withdraw Mr. Bradley's. 02:11:48.418 --> 02:11:49.624 Can we call for the vote? 02:11:50.072 --> 02:11:51.191 If there is no objection, 02:11:51.191 --> 02:11:53.022 we will withdraw Mr. Ratliff's. 02:11:53.022 --> 02:11:54.267 After the statement of Mr. Ratliff, 02:11:54.267 --> 02:11:55.307 I withdraw my amendment. 02:11:55.616 --> 02:11:56.802 (laughter) 02:11:57.282 --> 02:11:57.918 Ok, so 02:11:57.918 --> 02:11:59.895 now we're back to the main motion, 02:12:00.524 --> 02:12:02.780 but I think I had Ms. Beltran on here. 02:12:03.106 --> 02:12:04.985 Did you want to speak, Ms. Beltran? 02:12:04.985 --> 02:12:09.798 I'm a little concerned. 02:12:10.352 --> 02:12:13.447 I actually appreciated having an opportunity to 02:12:13.450 --> 02:12:14.661 see the alignment, 02:12:14.662 --> 02:12:16.493 because I think it gives us transparency. 02:12:17.170 --> 02:12:20.113 Now we're moving towards allowing all three of them 02:12:20.531 --> 02:12:23.136 to be approved without knowing what their alignment 02:12:23.136 --> 02:12:24.056 is for certain 02:12:24.382 --> 02:12:26.215 or at least comparing apples to apples, 02:12:26.628 --> 02:12:28.977 which still I believe leaves us in a bad position. 02:12:30.149 --> 02:12:34.177 Maybe they do come back with a 20% alignment, 02:12:34.983 --> 02:12:36.519 but now we're just turning a blind eye, 02:12:36.519 --> 02:12:37.528 and saying never mind 02:12:37.528 --> 02:12:39.157 we're not even going to ask the question. 02:12:46.617 --> 02:12:47.358 Yes, Ms. Hardy. 02:12:47.358 --> 02:12:50.885 Have we ever, in the past, concerned ourselves 02:12:50.885 --> 02:12:54.135 with the alignment with this adult literacy test? 02:12:56.325 --> 02:12:58.583 The answer to that is no I can tell you we haven't. 02:13:02.569 --> 02:13:03.747 Yes, Dr. Dominguez. 02:13:04.453 --> 02:13:05.938 Two wrongs don't make a right. 02:13:07.339 --> 02:13:08.564 It worked for years. 02:13:13.064 --> 02:13:17.618 The GED we all know is not at the caliber 02:13:17.618 --> 02:13:19.106 of a high school diploma. 02:13:19.546 --> 02:13:22.715 Instead of raising that bar, 02:13:23.257 --> 02:13:24.761 we're saying we don't care. 02:13:25.541 --> 02:13:27.601 We, as educators, should care. 02:13:31.960 --> 02:13:32.977 Yes, Mr. Rowley. 02:13:35.791 --> 02:13:38.750 I think most of us availed ourselves of the opportunity 02:13:38.750 --> 02:13:42.508 to look at the results of the alignment studies 02:13:42.879 --> 02:13:45.008 that were made available to us confidential, 02:13:45.008 --> 02:13:45.707 I did. 02:13:46.700 --> 02:13:50.993 What I saw was two of the three vendors, 02:13:50.993 --> 02:13:52.364 I have to be real careful here, 02:13:52.448 --> 02:13:54.601 two of the three vendors used one particular 02:13:54.656 --> 02:13:56.723 testing service 02:13:56.876 --> 02:13:58.928 or one particular alignment. 02:14:01.865 --> 02:14:03.046 Vendor, there you go. 02:14:04.526 --> 02:14:06.152 Alignment study person. 02:14:07.056 --> 02:14:08.399 The other one used a different one. 02:14:08.604 --> 02:14:11.782 But I saw the results of all three 02:14:12.678 --> 02:14:14.049 and all three, 02:14:14.302 --> 02:14:16.941 even though they were different scales, 02:14:17.660 --> 02:14:21.159 showed a very high percentage of alignment. 02:14:21.890 --> 02:14:24.951 Not only to just the five courses, 02:14:25.414 --> 02:14:28.725 by the way that we designated in the RFP, 02:14:28.794 --> 02:14:30.530 but to all the TEKS. 02:14:31.822 --> 02:14:33.057 I am comfortable 02:14:33.316 --> 02:14:37.381 and just to the extent that anyone out there listening 02:14:37.421 --> 02:14:39.714 has a question as to whether or not we're comfortable 02:14:39.724 --> 02:14:41.070 with the level of alignment 02:14:41.556 --> 02:14:45.167 based upon confidential information that we saw 02:14:45.604 --> 02:14:47.389 after signing non-disclosure agreements, 02:14:47.709 --> 02:14:50.005 I'm very comfortable that all three of them 02:14:50.005 --> 02:14:52.182 would exceed in 80% alignment. 02:14:52.638 --> 02:14:55.482 Just because we're not able to talk about it publicly, 02:14:55.636 --> 02:14:58.136 let's don't leave the impression that we don't know 02:14:58.321 --> 02:14:59.301 that they are aligned, 02:14:59.412 --> 02:15:00.347 because they are. 02:15:00.756 --> 02:15:02.810 The first place it was a requirement in our RFP 02:15:02.810 --> 02:15:04.257 and they met that requirement. 02:15:04.429 --> 02:15:05.330 In the second place, 02:15:05.403 --> 02:15:06.878 we've seen the confidential information 02:15:07.138 --> 02:15:12.016 and it more than satisfies even an 80% alignment question. 02:15:12.205 --> 02:15:14.779 There's no need to place an additional contingency. 02:15:15.364 --> 02:15:17.726 We should let the market determine who is the best 02:15:18.420 --> 02:15:19.470 test provider. 02:15:20.540 --> 02:15:22.956 Move all three for approval. 02:15:25.733 --> 02:15:27.027 Yes, Mr. Cortez. 02:15:27.408 --> 02:15:28.313 So, the original motions 02:15:28.381 --> 02:15:30.034 have all been withdrawn, right? 02:15:30.413 --> 02:15:31.094 No, no. 02:15:31.470 --> 02:15:32.668 We're at the main motion. 02:15:32.668 --> 02:15:33.830 We're back at the main motion 02:15:33.830 --> 02:15:35.803 because everything's been pulled down. 02:15:36.233 --> 02:15:38.233 Which is what came out of committee, right? 02:15:38.530 --> 02:15:39.939 The recommendation of three? 02:15:45.383 --> 02:15:46.733 For a little while I thought it was going 02:15:46.807 --> 02:15:48.635 in the right direction. 02:15:49.426 --> 02:15:50.752 I heard one of my colleagues speak 02:15:51.103 --> 02:15:53.521 and he had me kind of convinced 02:15:53.521 --> 02:15:54.279 going one way. 02:15:56.829 --> 02:15:57.390 I don't know, 02:15:57.390 --> 02:15:58.142 something happened 02:15:58.142 --> 02:15:59.195 and the dialogue changed. 02:15:59.272 --> 02:16:01.082 I would like to offer up a motion. 02:16:01.218 --> 02:16:06.218 I'm not convinced that we should just trust all the vendors 02:16:09.123 --> 02:16:11.411 and having heard legal 02:16:11.525 --> 02:16:14.369 and the phrasing of the original motion, 02:16:15.488 --> 02:16:17.709 was left vague enough that we weren't sure 02:16:18.057 --> 02:16:20.626 if okay, we pick three, 02:16:21.149 --> 02:16:22.269 we say do this, 02:16:22.626 --> 02:16:23.834 we notify the public, 02:16:23.913 --> 02:16:26.336 but we have no more say in it. 02:16:26.671 --> 02:16:28.200 That one didn't sit well with me. 02:16:28.504 --> 02:16:30.438 The other option that Von talked about 02:16:30.555 --> 02:16:32.249 where we pick the three, 02:16:32.766 --> 02:16:33.954 we set the requirement, 02:16:34.493 --> 02:16:35.428 we come back. 02:16:35.570 --> 02:16:37.165 If we're comfortable with the requirement, 02:16:37.556 --> 02:16:41.467 we move all three forward to a contract phase. 02:16:41.903 --> 02:16:43.405 If were not comfortable with the three, 02:16:43.405 --> 02:16:45.714 then this body still has the discretion 02:16:45.899 --> 02:16:47.213 to eliminate one 02:16:47.898 --> 02:16:48.706 or more. 02:16:49.926 --> 02:16:54.026 Your original motion was defeated. 02:16:54.233 --> 02:16:55.869 The one about the 85% alignment. 02:16:56.079 --> 02:16:58.371 I'm not talking about the 85% alignment 02:16:58.520 --> 02:16:59.143 at this point. 02:16:59.143 --> 02:16:59.996 I'm just saying, 02:17:00.297 --> 02:17:02.060 if we're going to go forward with all three, 02:17:04.035 --> 02:17:06.384 I don't know what staff would recommend 02:17:06.492 --> 02:17:10.054 in terms of what my colleague mentioned 02:17:10.187 --> 02:17:12.028 about having one uniform rubric. 02:17:12.579 --> 02:17:15.809 So that we can get an apple to apple study, 02:17:16.098 --> 02:17:16.918 because it's true. 02:17:16.918 --> 02:17:18.426 Ok, you 02:17:18.426 --> 02:17:20.002 need to make an amendment. 02:17:21.365 --> 02:17:23.984 I move that all three of them move forward 02:17:23.984 --> 02:17:24.790 in the process 02:17:25.720 --> 02:17:29.368 and that the agency help us identify the rubric. 02:17:29.368 --> 02:17:30.501 That's not a motion. 02:17:31.151 --> 02:17:32.278 Give me your motion. 02:17:32.458 --> 02:17:34.861 Here's where we are right now. 02:17:35.594 --> 02:17:36.387 This is what I'm trying to do. 02:17:36.387 --> 02:17:37.583 I want them to move forward. 02:17:38.010 --> 02:17:39.046 Recommending that the 02:17:39.046 --> 02:17:40.101 State Board of Education approve all three vendors 02:17:40.101 --> 02:17:41.904 as test providers for the Texas Certification 02:17:42.015 --> 02:17:43.075 of High School Equivalency. 02:17:43.148 --> 02:17:44.219 That's where we are right now. 02:17:44.416 --> 02:17:46.581 Now do you have an amendment to offer? 02:17:46.695 --> 02:17:47.312 Yes, I would 02:17:47.312 --> 02:17:48.330 like them to move forward, 02:17:48.330 --> 02:17:48.979 I don't know how I would word this maybe someone 02:17:48.979 --> 02:17:50.582 could help me, 02:17:50.582 --> 02:17:51.589 I'd like them to move forward, 02:17:52.095 --> 02:17:56.653 i'd like them to be able to present additional information 02:17:56.729 --> 02:17:58.489 that we've discussed throughout this circle 02:17:58.641 --> 02:17:59.567 for the last hour. 02:18:00.086 --> 02:18:02.519 Then when we had an opportunity to review it, 02:18:03.521 --> 02:18:05.606 if we felt that they all still met that bar, 02:18:06.735 --> 02:18:08.602 then we could pick all three of them. 02:18:09.223 --> 02:18:10.260 If they did not, 02:18:10.436 --> 02:18:11.576 then we could eliminate one 02:18:11.576 --> 02:18:12.335 or more. 02:18:12.335 --> 02:18:13.221 Okay, members, 02:18:13.221 --> 02:18:13.908 if it's okay, 02:18:13.908 --> 02:18:16.342 since it's already at this time, 02:18:16.342 --> 02:18:17.615 do you mind if we take a 10-minute break? 02:18:17.615 --> 02:18:19.478 So we can see if we can work this out 02:18:19.741 --> 02:18:21.168 and then we come back for the vote? 02:18:21.354 --> 02:18:22.167 Madam Chair? 02:18:22.236 --> 02:18:23.458 Yes, Mr. Rowley. 02:18:23.458 --> 02:18:24.914 If the member has a specific amendment 02:18:24.991 --> 02:18:25.992 and maybe it's written out 02:18:25.992 --> 02:18:26.785 we could consider it, 02:18:26.785 --> 02:18:28.256 but I'd like to call for the question. 02:18:29.053 --> 02:18:29.947 Second. 02:18:30.262 --> 02:18:30.900 Okay. 02:18:30.906 --> 02:18:32.144 She just asked for a break so I could 02:18:32.177 --> 02:18:33.644 put the amendment together. 02:18:34.608 --> 02:18:38.143 (whispers) 02:18:44.313 --> 02:18:47.324 Ok, so, 02:18:47.405 --> 02:18:51.018 you can vote no on this now 02:18:51.157 --> 02:18:53.182 and he could come back with another 02:18:53.182 --> 02:18:54.815 recommendation 02:18:55.748 --> 02:18:58.140 and then we could vote on that recommendation. 02:18:59.148 --> 02:19:00.370 Ok. 02:19:01.016 --> 02:19:01.707 Ok. 02:19:01.885 --> 02:19:02.907 Right now, 02:19:03.078 --> 02:19:04.733 the only thing before us is to, 02:19:06.311 --> 02:19:07.816 I would like to say one thing. 02:19:09.025 --> 02:19:10.255 If we can have, 02:19:10.255 --> 02:19:11.331 which we've already discussed, 02:19:11.802 --> 02:19:14.221 the issue with the outcomes measure 02:19:15.688 --> 02:19:18.810 that will answer to me a lot of the questions 02:19:18.810 --> 02:19:22.140 that we're having each one of them serve 02:19:22.172 --> 02:19:25.559 the students equally well. 02:19:26.519 --> 02:19:28.199 If we have a measure of the outcomes. 02:19:28.563 --> 02:19:29.181 In other words, 02:19:29.181 --> 02:19:31.387 what happens to the kids after they take it, 02:19:31.608 --> 02:19:32.925 pass the exam five 02:19:32.925 --> 02:19:33.931 and six years out? 02:19:33.963 --> 02:19:34.814 Are they employed, 02:19:35.314 --> 02:19:36.778 have they gotten a certification, 02:19:36.801 --> 02:19:38.037 have they gone on to college? 02:19:38.578 --> 02:19:39.478 That sort of thing. 02:19:39.626 --> 02:19:44.488 Each of the tests that we're giving 02:19:44.639 --> 02:19:49.639 are they equally handled with what happens to the students? 02:19:50.229 --> 02:19:50.935 Yes. 02:19:50.935 --> 02:19:53.318 To be clear. 02:19:53.775 --> 02:19:55.381 Parliamentary inquiry, 02:19:55.880 --> 02:19:56.826 I'm sorry. 02:19:56.826 --> 02:19:57.793 Oh, yeah, 02:19:57.793 --> 02:19:58.382 you called for the question. 02:19:58.382 --> 02:19:59.439 I'm calling for the question, 02:19:59.439 --> 02:19:59.919 it is not debatable 02:19:59.919 --> 02:20:00.930 and we're not going to have discussion. 02:20:00.930 --> 02:20:01.928 We need to poll the board and see if we're going 02:20:01.928 --> 02:20:02.865 to move forward. 02:20:03.361 --> 02:20:05.246 Was there a second to call for the question? 02:20:05.924 --> 02:20:07.347 You did? Ok. 02:20:08.265 --> 02:20:09.372 Move and seconded 02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:13.778 to recommend to order the previous question. 02:20:36.300 --> 02:20:39.183 We need two-thirds to move the previous question. 02:20:39.457 --> 02:20:40.599 All in favor, 02:20:41.136 --> 02:20:42.239 raise your hand. 02:20:42.557 --> 02:20:43.791 To move the previous question. 02:20:43.791 --> 02:20:45.043 Two-thirds is needed. 02:20:51.491 --> 02:20:52.437 All opposed, 02:20:52.437 --> 02:20:53.648 raise your hand. 02:21:43.634 --> 02:21:46.109 The motion carries. 8 to 4. 02:21:47.976 --> 02:21:50.008 Now the main motion before us 02:21:50.008 --> 02:21:51.832 is to recommend that the State Board of Education 02:21:51.910 --> 02:21:53.822 approve all three vendors as test providers 02:21:53.822 --> 02:21:56.812 for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency. 02:21:57.145 --> 02:21:58.576 All in favor, 02:21:58.854 --> 02:21:59.775 raise your hand. 02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:08.694 All opposed, 02:22:08.776 --> 02:22:09.841 raise your hand. 02:22:15.511 --> 02:22:16.430 Motion carries. 02:22:19.107 --> 02:22:21.804 Alright, members, 02:22:21.804 --> 02:22:24.747 can we take just a 10-minute break? 02:22:24.747 --> 02:22:25.746 Then, we'll be back. 02:22:25.770 --> 02:22:26.553 Thank you. 02:36:28.229 --> 02:36:29.152 I shouldn't say that, should I? 02:36:30.332 --> 02:36:30.982 I did say that. 02:36:31.619 --> 02:36:32.318 I did, 02:36:32.423 --> 02:36:33.662 I completely messed that up. 02:36:34.615 --> 02:36:35.526 I'm so sorry. 02:36:35.778 --> 02:36:36.949 (laughter) 02:36:37.156 --> 02:36:38.225 She just jinxed it, members. 02:36:38.225 --> 02:36:39.412 I'm sorry members, 02:36:39.414 --> 02:36:40.414 I will not do that again. 02:36:40.665 --> 02:36:42.958 Number Five on the agenda 02:36:43.215 --> 02:36:44.511 and then on the notes 02:36:44.511 --> 02:36:46.369 it's what number, Mr. Ratliff? 02:36:47.872 --> 02:36:48.388 Ok, members, 02:36:48.388 --> 02:36:50.546 in the Committee of the Full Board Minutes 02:36:50.546 --> 02:36:54.586 is on page 7 in the corresponding Board book page 02:36:54.586 --> 02:36:55.811 is I-75. 02:36:56.993 --> 02:37:00.424 I'm going to move to postpone consideration of this item. 02:37:02.101 --> 02:37:03.959 I move that the State Board of Education postpone 02:37:07.106 --> 02:37:08.135 and not approve. 02:37:08.135 --> 02:37:11.028 I think you can amend it, 02:37:11.028 --> 02:37:12.811 but I think you have to give what came 02:37:12.895 --> 02:37:15.488 out of the committee recommendation. 02:37:15.627 --> 02:37:16.880 We have to do that. 02:37:16.932 --> 02:37:18.611 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 02:37:18.611 --> 02:37:19.927 I move that The State Board of Education approve 02:37:19.927 --> 02:37:20.990 the second reading 02:37:20.990 --> 02:37:22.407 and final adoption proposed amendments 02:37:22.407 --> 02:37:25.527 to 19 TAC Chapter 74: Curriculum Requirements, 02:37:25.772 --> 02:37:28.000 Subchapter B: Graduation Requirements. 02:37:29.681 --> 02:37:32.146 The actual motion is on page eight in the Board Minutes, 02:37:32.608 --> 02:37:33.674 members. 02:37:34.223 --> 02:37:35.439 The top of page eight. 02:37:43.334 --> 02:37:46.022 It's been moved to approve the second reading 02:37:46.164 --> 02:37:47.647 and final adoption proposed amendments 02:37:47.647 --> 02:37:50.455 to 19 TAC Chapter 74: Curriculum Requirements. 02:37:50.783 --> 02:37:52.473 Subchapter B: Graduation Requirements. 02:37:53.611 --> 02:37:54.656 Yes, Mr. Ratliff. 02:37:54.656 --> 02:37:57.505 I would like to move to postpone this item 02:37:57.852 --> 02:37:59.129 to the April agenda. 02:37:59.986 --> 02:38:00.899 Members, staff 02:38:01.394 --> 02:38:03.190 and some members have been talking about the issue 02:38:03.190 --> 02:38:04.638 that was raised by the charter schools 02:38:04.638 --> 02:38:07.796 on the AP sequencing for the APE English classes. 02:38:08.489 --> 02:38:10.432 Rather than trying to do it at the eleventh hour, 02:38:10.432 --> 02:38:11.912 we want to be more deliberate 02:38:11.912 --> 02:38:13.784 and make sure we do this correctly 02:38:13.910 --> 02:38:15.223 so we're going to postpone to April. 02:38:15.364 --> 02:38:16.164 Is there a second? 02:38:16.164 --> 02:38:16.776 Second. 02:38:16.973 --> 02:38:18.765 Are you ready for the question? 02:38:18.940 --> 02:38:19.696 Madam Chair. 02:38:19.864 --> 02:38:24.135 I just wanted to make you aware of one other issue 02:38:25.286 --> 02:38:27.892 that we hope we'll be able to resolve 02:38:27.910 --> 02:38:29.005 with this postponement 02:38:29.005 --> 02:38:32.490 and that's the scores on the SAT are changing. 02:38:33.699 --> 02:38:35.323 We've got reference to scores 02:38:35.566 --> 02:38:37.854 in the performance acknowledgements in this part 02:38:37.854 --> 02:38:38.743 of the rule. 02:38:39.530 --> 02:38:41.968 We have been in conversations with the college board 02:38:42.189 --> 02:38:46.501 and we don't have the ability to make a recommendation 02:38:46.502 --> 02:38:48.651 on what the new score should be right now, 02:38:48.758 --> 02:38:51.187 but they anticipate that they will be able to provide us 02:38:51.187 --> 02:38:54.271 with information after the March administration. 02:38:54.904 --> 02:38:59.426 That's a second amendment that we would likely bring forward 02:38:59.957 --> 02:39:03.408 in April for this particular set of rules. 02:39:03.446 --> 02:39:08.310 So, there are really two issues that we can get to some resolution 02:39:08.310 --> 02:39:09.425 between now and April. 02:39:11.032 --> 02:39:11.986 Ok, yes, 02:39:12.595 --> 02:39:13.377 Ms. Hardy. 02:39:13.377 --> 02:39:17.220 I thought we were hamstrung by legislation on this one. 02:39:19.531 --> 02:39:21.362 We do think there are some ways 02:39:21.503 --> 02:39:24.504 that the AP issue can be addressed. 02:39:26.210 --> 02:39:29.030 As we discuss some potential solutions, 02:39:29.121 --> 02:39:31.347 we want to make sure that there aren't any 02:39:31.385 --> 02:39:32.266 unintended consequences. 02:39:32.266 --> 02:39:36.541 This is still in line with your statutory requirements. 02:39:37.250 --> 02:39:40.593 We want to make sure that anything that we suggest 02:39:40.836 --> 02:39:42.262 for your consideration doesn't create 02:39:42.886 --> 02:39:45.209 unintended consequences. 02:39:45.590 --> 02:39:48.619 If we could just have a little bit of time to work 02:39:48.619 --> 02:39:51.211 through the two issues we believe 02:39:51.211 --> 02:39:54.051 we can bring forward a proposal in April. 02:39:55.310 --> 02:39:57.652 These rules wouldn't be affective until the start 02:39:57.652 --> 02:40:00.055 of the next school year anyway. 02:40:02.725 --> 02:40:04.465 There's not any impact 02:40:04.576 --> 02:40:06.429 because none of this would become affective 02:40:07.183 --> 02:40:09.353 upon this vote to begin with. 02:40:11.146 --> 02:40:12.302 Yes, Mr. Ratliff. 02:40:13.004 --> 02:40:13.709 Monica, if I 02:40:13.709 --> 02:40:14.947 could ask y'all, as we're looking 02:40:15.193 --> 02:40:16.930 at the SAT score realignment, 02:40:16.930 --> 02:40:18.627 I don't know if it's in the current rule 02:40:18.627 --> 02:40:19.241 or not, 02:40:19.244 --> 02:40:22.481 but many colleges do what's called, 'superscoring,' 02:40:22.777 --> 02:40:23.806 on SAT scores. 02:40:23.806 --> 02:40:26.121 That if a student take the SAT twice, 02:40:26.457 --> 02:40:27.582 they'll take the best Math 02:40:27.582 --> 02:40:28.911 and the best English 02:40:28.911 --> 02:40:32.953 and pair them for that student's SAT entrance score. 02:40:34.179 --> 02:40:36.159 With regards to the performance acknowledgement, 02:40:36.252 --> 02:40:37.299 whether or not 02:40:37.825 --> 02:40:39.107 we either have the authority to 02:40:39.107 --> 02:40:43.806 or whether it's a good idea to superscore those for purposes 02:40:43.806 --> 02:40:44.938 of that as well. 02:40:46.359 --> 02:40:47.832 We can take a look at that. 02:40:48.227 --> 02:40:49.012 That's all. 02:40:49.012 --> 02:40:50.252 Just if we can. 02:40:50.252 --> 02:40:51.123 Ok, Ms. Beltran. 02:40:51.222 --> 02:40:52.128 Thank you, Madam Chair. 02:40:52.225 --> 02:40:53.227 I just want to thank 02:40:53.227 --> 02:40:56.069 and acknowledge the testifiers who were here yesterday. 02:40:56.069 --> 02:40:57.302 Some of them are here today again. 02:40:57.375 --> 02:41:00.517 I just want to thank them for their advocacy on behalf 02:41:00.517 --> 02:41:01.418 of their students 02:41:01.418 --> 02:41:04.155 because I know that they're really interested in providing 02:41:04.155 --> 02:41:04.770 college and career 02:41:04.770 --> 02:41:06.000 readiness for their kids. 02:41:06.386 --> 02:41:08.611 One of the other things that was flagged to me 02:41:09.048 --> 02:41:10.941 because when I was having these conversations 02:41:10.941 --> 02:41:12.278 and learning more about this, 02:41:12.720 --> 02:41:15.950 I started wondering if maybe there are other sections 02:41:16.005 --> 02:41:17.624 where more courses can be added. 02:41:17.722 --> 02:41:18.958 One of the things that was flagged 02:41:18.958 --> 02:41:20.904 was in Arts and Humanities that potentially 02:41:23.556 --> 02:41:25.148 Can we also look at that 02:41:25.148 --> 02:41:27.871 and see if there's room for AP English Language. 02:41:29.464 --> 02:41:30.690 It's I-97. 02:41:31.438 --> 02:41:34.575 Just in general to have another opportunity to 02:41:34.776 --> 02:41:35.721 look through this 02:41:35.721 --> 02:41:38.069 and make sure that we're giving the school districts 02:41:38.069 --> 02:41:39.992 enough flexibility to make sure there kids are. 02:41:41.012 --> 02:41:41.849 Monica, do 02:41:41.849 --> 02:41:43.232 you know what's she's saying there? 02:41:43.232 --> 02:41:44.884 Yes, I think 02:41:44.884 --> 02:41:47.702 we would take a look at any references 02:41:47.858 --> 02:41:51.802 to these specific courses in the rule 02:41:51.896 --> 02:41:53.948 and make a recommendation accordingly. 02:41:53.948 --> 02:41:56.301 I think that's another example of where 02:41:56.301 --> 02:41:59.692 if you make a decision to take action right now, 02:41:59.990 --> 02:42:01.966 we don't always have the opportunity to look 02:42:01.966 --> 02:42:04.156 at corresponding section of the rule. 02:42:05.478 --> 02:42:06.928 We'll take a look at all of it 02:42:06.982 --> 02:42:10.342 and try to bring forward consistent recommendations 02:42:10.342 --> 02:42:11.371 in April. 02:42:11.809 --> 02:42:13.256 I just also want to thank the staff. 02:42:13.256 --> 02:42:14.002 Thank you, Monica, 02:42:14.002 --> 02:42:16.050 for taking the time to think about this more carefully. 02:42:18.276 --> 02:42:19.428 Any other questions? 02:42:19.428 --> 02:42:21.797 So, the motion before us is the motion to postpone. 02:42:22.092 --> 02:42:23.025 All those in favor, 02:42:23.025 --> 02:42:23.737 say I. 02:42:23.819 --> 02:42:24.069 I. 02:42:24.335 --> 02:42:25.141 All opposed, 02:42:25.141 --> 02:42:25.391 say no. 02:42:25.657 --> 02:42:26.419 I's have it. 02:42:26.819 --> 02:42:27.980 Ok, members. 02:42:27.980 --> 02:42:30.097 Staying on page eight in your Committee 02:42:30.097 --> 02:42:31.167 of the Full Board Minutes. 02:42:31.554 --> 02:42:34.726 The board agenda page is I-101. 02:42:36.925 --> 02:42:38.427 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 02:42:38.563 --> 02:42:40.084 I move that the State Board of Education 02:42:40.084 --> 02:42:40.958 approve for second reading 02:42:40.958 --> 02:42:43.413 and final adoption proposed new 19 TAC 02:42:43.413 --> 02:42:44.544 Chapter 113: 02:42:45.013 --> 02:42:46.349 Texas Essential Knowledge 02:42:46.383 --> 02:42:47.213 and Skills for Social Studies. 02:42:47.283 --> 02:42:48.692 Subchapter C: High School 02:42:49.280 --> 02:42:52.663 Section 113.49: Personal Financial Literacy, 02:42:52.663 --> 02:42:53.738 one half credit, 02:42:53.802 --> 02:42:55.207 Adopted 2016. 02:42:58.436 --> 02:43:00.878 Let's move to approve for second reading 02:43:00.878 --> 02:43:01.764 and final adoption 02:43:02.709 --> 02:43:04.893 and propose new 19 TAC Chapter 113 02:43:05.429 --> 02:43:06.244 Texas Essential Knowledge 02:43:06.244 --> 02:43:07.582 and Skills for Social Studies. 02:43:07.917 --> 02:43:09.583 Subchapter C: High School, 02:43:10.422 --> 02:43:12.923 113.49: Personal Financial Literacy 02:43:13.219 --> 02:43:15.392 one half credit, adopted 2016. 02:43:15.695 --> 02:43:16.994 Are you ready for the question? 02:43:17.396 --> 02:43:20.392 All those in favor say I. 02:43:20.787 --> 02:43:21.693 I. 02:43:21.693 --> 02:43:22.806 All those opposed say no. 02:43:23.021 --> 02:43:23.784 I's have it 02:43:23.784 --> 02:43:24.714 and the motions adopted. 02:43:25.552 --> 02:43:27.104 Members staying on page eight, 02:43:28.455 --> 02:43:29.433 in the minutes 02:43:29.433 --> 02:43:32.511 and this corresponds to page I-113 02:43:32.919 --> 02:43:33.745 in your board book. 02:43:34.634 --> 02:43:37.915 The actual motion is on page nine in your Committee Minutes. 02:43:39.462 --> 02:43:41.027 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 02:43:41.381 --> 02:43:42.634 I move that the State Board of Education 02:43:42.634 --> 02:43:43.884 approve for second reading 02:43:43.884 --> 02:43:46.903 and final adoption propose new 19 TAC chapter 74 02:43:46.903 --> 02:43:48.232 Curriculum Requirements, 02:43:48.232 --> 02:43:49.519 Subchapter A: 02:43:49.519 --> 02:43:50.598 Required Curriculum, 02:43:51.007 --> 02:43:53.407 Section 74.6: College and 02:43:53.407 --> 02:43:54.325 Career Readiness, 02:43:54.325 --> 02:43:55.701 and Texas Essential Knowledge 02:43:55.701 --> 02:43:56.878 and Skills alignment 02:43:57.091 --> 02:43:59.251 with an effective date of 20 days after filing 02:43:59.251 --> 02:44:00.867 as adopted with the Texas Register. 02:44:02.385 --> 02:44:04.335 It's moved to approve for second reading 02:44:04.335 --> 02:44:05.307 and final adoption. 02:44:05.312 --> 02:44:07.465 Propose new 19 TAC Chapter 74 02:44:07.635 --> 02:44:09.359 Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter A: 02:44:09.360 --> 02:44:11.868 Required Curriculum, 74.6. 02:44:12.424 --> 02:44:13.550 College and Career 02:44:13.550 --> 02:44:14.224 Readiness 02:44:14.345 --> 02:44:15.424 and Texas Essential Knowledge 02:44:15.428 --> 02:44:16.348 and Skills alignment 02:44:16.351 --> 02:44:17.340 with an effective date 02:44:17.493 --> 02:44:19.387 of 20 days after filing, as adopted 02:44:19.387 --> 02:44:20.563 with the Texas Register. 02:44:21.062 --> 02:44:24.116 To set that early effective date, we need a vote 02:44:24.116 --> 02:44:25.228 of two-thirds. 02:44:26.063 --> 02:44:27.322 Are you ready for the question? 02:44:27.427 --> 02:44:28.351 All those in favor, 02:44:28.351 --> 02:44:29.285 raise your hand. 02:44:35.026 --> 02:44:35.712 All those opposed, 02:44:36.236 --> 02:44:37.418 raise your hand. 02:44:41.266 --> 02:44:42.591 There are 12 in the affirmative. 02:44:43.669 --> 02:44:44.626 The motion carries. 02:44:45.293 --> 02:44:45.956 Ok, members. 02:44:45.956 --> 02:44:47.417 On page ten in your minutes, 02:44:48.044 --> 02:44:51.332 which correspondes to page I-167 02:44:51.704 --> 02:44:52.537 in the Board book. 02:44:54.580 --> 02:44:56.231 The actual motion is on page 11. 02:44:57.599 --> 02:44:59.653 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 02:44:59.775 --> 02:45:01.075 I move that the State Board of Education 02:45:01.075 --> 02:45:03.047 approve the process for streamlining 02:45:03.152 --> 02:45:04.557 of the TEKS as amended. 02:45:09.596 --> 02:45:10.396 I'm sorry, Ms. Hardy. 02:45:10.396 --> 02:45:11.376 Did you have a question? 02:45:11.727 --> 02:45:12.368 Yes. 02:45:16.138 --> 02:45:19.763 I think this would want to be at this point that 02:45:19.763 --> 02:45:22.441 Ms. Cargill wanted me to announce that she has communicated 02:45:22.441 --> 02:45:23.759 with science folks, 02:45:23.928 --> 02:45:26.820 and they suggest streamlining the four main science subjects, 02:45:27.236 --> 02:45:28.311 not the electives. 02:45:29.511 --> 02:45:30.826 Is that where this would be talked about? 02:45:31.677 --> 02:45:33.981 I think we already gave that instruction. 02:45:34.246 --> 02:45:36.209 We agreed upon that on Wednesday. 02:45:36.209 --> 02:45:38.058 She just wanted me to make sure 02:45:38.058 --> 02:45:39.031 that was reiterated. 02:45:39.096 --> 02:45:40.611 That was the way we went with it. 02:45:41.023 --> 02:45:42.043 Members, the thing 02:45:42.043 --> 02:45:43.075 that I had asked about 02:45:43.143 --> 02:45:45.110 was the counts for the 02:45:45.110 --> 02:45:46.900 how many students are taking the courses. 02:45:48.073 --> 02:45:53.073 It indeed shows those are overwhelming the four 02:45:53.093 --> 02:45:54.449 Biology, Chemistry, 02:45:54.449 --> 02:45:55.913 Integrated Physics, and Chemistry 02:45:55.913 --> 02:45:57.505 and Physics are the courses that kids, 02:45:57.505 --> 02:45:58.742 by and large, 02:45:58.742 --> 02:45:59.732 are taking. 02:45:59.738 --> 02:46:00.874 The number are much, much 02:46:00.874 --> 02:46:01.917 lower for the other courses. 02:46:01.917 --> 02:46:04.101 It makes sense just to concentrate 02:46:04.424 --> 02:46:06.101 and get those right for the four courses. 02:46:08.056 --> 02:46:09.330 Thank you very much. 02:46:10.530 --> 02:46:12.553 The recommendation is that the Board 02:46:12.553 --> 02:46:14.882 of Education approve the process for streamlining 02:46:14.882 --> 02:46:16.153 of the TEKS, as admitted. 02:46:16.153 --> 02:46:17.425 All those in favor say I. 02:46:17.534 --> 02:46:18.055 I. 02:46:18.055 --> 02:46:19.335 All those opposed say nay. 02:46:19.335 --> 02:46:20.761 I's have it. 02:46:20.870 --> 02:46:22.200 Thank you very much. 02:46:24.514 --> 02:46:25.588 Is that it? 02:46:25.904 --> 02:46:26.975 Okay, tremendous. 02:46:26.975 --> 02:46:28.259 That was Committee of the Full Board. 02:46:28.259 --> 02:46:29.688 Now we're on Committee of Instruction. 02:46:30.936 --> 02:46:32.427 If you'll point us, 02:46:32.538 --> 02:46:33.635 if you will, 02:46:33.635 --> 02:46:34.521 Ms. Melton-Malone, 02:46:34.521 --> 02:46:37.147 to the right page on your minutes. 02:46:37.214 --> 02:46:38.663 On our minutes, 02:46:38.663 --> 02:46:41.103 it's the only one that we have for today 02:46:41.268 --> 02:46:42.322 is on page two. 02:46:43.476 --> 02:46:45.158 It is the official item 02:46:45.186 --> 02:46:46.562 of agenda in your notebook. 02:46:46.626 --> 02:46:50.534 Roman Numeral 2-21. 02:46:51.983 --> 02:46:54.030 It's agenda item number 11. 02:46:56.938 --> 02:46:57.355 I'm sorry, 02:46:57.355 --> 02:46:58.645 let me back up. 02:47:00.095 --> 02:47:03.961 It's 2-13 item agenda number 10. 02:47:04.324 --> 02:47:05.502 Number 10? 02:47:05.820 --> 02:47:06.838 Did I have it wrong? 02:47:07.599 --> 02:47:08.673 In your Board book. 02:47:08.673 --> 02:47:09.854 Got it. 02:47:10.670 --> 02:47:12.061 One behalf of the committee on instruction, 02:47:12.138 --> 02:47:14.512 I move that the State Board of Education approve 02:47:14.587 --> 02:47:15.366 for first reading 02:47:15.366 --> 02:47:18.895 and filing authorization propose new 19 TAC, 02:47:19.104 --> 02:47:20.254 chapter 127, 02:47:20.836 --> 02:47:22.007 Texas Essential knowledge 02:47:22.007 --> 02:47:23.596 and Skill for Career Development, 02:47:23.759 --> 02:47:25.424 Subchapter B: High School, 02:47:25.424 --> 02:47:30.043 Section 127.16: Extended Career Preparation, 02:47:30.161 --> 02:47:32.412 one credit, adopted 2016. 02:47:34.594 --> 02:47:35.567 Are you ready for the question? 02:47:35.681 --> 02:47:37.556 All those in favor say I. 02:47:37.967 --> 02:47:38.842 I. 02:47:38.842 --> 02:47:39.875 All those opposed say nay. 02:47:39.875 --> 02:47:40.962 The I's have it, 02:47:41.078 --> 02:47:42.164 and motion is adopted. 02:47:42.485 --> 02:47:45.080 Our only other thing that was an action item, 02:47:45.547 --> 02:47:47.839 did not need to come to play 02:47:48.210 --> 02:47:50.750 was withdrawn, because the agency had not received 02:47:50.750 --> 02:47:53.934 any applications for any innovative courses that needed 02:47:54.004 --> 02:47:55.293 the board's approval. 02:47:57.089 --> 02:47:57.602 Terrific. 02:47:57.673 --> 02:47:59.715 So we're moving on past 11. 02:47:59.827 --> 02:48:02.899 Item 11 on your agenda, Proposed Approval 02:48:02.968 --> 02:48:04.123 of Innovative Courses. 02:48:04.123 --> 02:48:05.218 We can go ahead 02:48:05.339 --> 02:48:06.061 and skip. 02:48:06.187 --> 02:48:08.499 Now we're on Committee on School Finance, 02:48:08.499 --> 02:48:10.405 Permanent School Fund. There were no action items 02:48:10.405 --> 02:48:12.304 as I recall, correct? 02:48:13.460 --> 02:48:14.642 Terrific. 02:48:14.757 --> 02:48:16.650 Committee on School Initiatives, Mr. Rowley. 02:48:16.763 --> 02:48:17.898 Thank you Madam Chair. 02:48:17.907 --> 02:48:22.416 This is on page two of the report 02:48:23.086 --> 02:48:25.689 on the Committee of School Initiatives minutes. 02:48:27.051 --> 02:48:29.234 It's Agenda Item Three, 02:48:30.214 --> 02:48:31.346 on page two. 02:48:32.215 --> 02:48:35.468 It's also Roman Numeral 4-45, I guess 02:48:35.474 --> 02:48:36.659 in the Board book. 02:48:38.776 --> 02:48:40.019 Everybody there? 02:48:40.550 --> 02:48:41.646 The committee recommended that the 02:48:41.764 --> 02:48:43.524 State Board of Education take no action 02:48:43.642 --> 02:48:47.511 on the proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 242 02:48:47.511 --> 02:48:48.946 Superintendent Certificate, 02:48:49.474 --> 02:48:51.400 Section 242.20. 02:48:51.517 --> 02:48:53.824 Requirements for the Issuance of the Standard 02:48:54.049 --> 02:48:55.442 Superintendent Certificate. 02:48:57.888 --> 02:48:59.326 Is there a motion to reject? 02:49:02.221 --> 02:49:03.058 Hearing none. 02:49:03.058 --> 02:49:05.082 He's got a question. 02:49:05.082 --> 02:49:06.576 I'm sorry. 02:49:06.576 --> 02:49:07.370 I'm sorry, yes, Mr. Ratliff. 02:49:07.370 --> 02:49:08.679 I have a question just for those that may not 02:49:08.679 --> 02:49:09.894 have watched the committee hearing, 02:49:09.894 --> 02:49:11.964 this was the two different pathways 02:49:12.020 --> 02:49:14.146 to the Superintendent Certificate that we 02:49:14.146 --> 02:49:15.234 rejected last time 02:49:16.049 --> 02:49:17.258 and said we wanted one, 02:49:17.258 --> 02:49:17.889 but not the other. 02:49:17.889 --> 02:49:19.341 They've dropped the one that we did not like 02:49:19.341 --> 02:49:20.865 and only brought forward the one we did like. 02:49:21.194 --> 02:49:21.881 That's exactly right. 02:49:21.881 --> 02:49:22.649 Thank you. 02:49:23.202 --> 02:49:24.831 Now this is Subpart A 02:49:24.986 --> 02:49:26.053 and not Subpart B. 02:49:26.289 --> 02:49:27.015 Thank you. 02:49:30.061 --> 02:49:30.980 Ok, terrific. 02:49:33.825 --> 02:49:34.667 Ok, hearing none. 02:49:34.667 --> 02:49:35.637 No action is taken, 02:49:35.637 --> 02:49:38.262 and the proposed amendment to 19 TAC 02:49:38.318 --> 02:49:39.315 Chapter 242: 02:49:39.315 --> 02:49:42.426 Superintendent Certificate, 242.20: 02:49:43.030 --> 02:49:44.580 Requirements for the Issuance of Standard 02:49:44.809 --> 02:49:46.067 Superintendent Certificate 02:49:46.231 --> 02:49:48.302 will take affect on February 02:49:48.841 --> 02:49:49.721 Do we have a date? 02:49:56.650 --> 02:49:57.706 Mr. Regal? 02:49:58.009 --> 02:49:59.316 Is there date? 02:50:02.160 --> 02:50:03.473 I understood there was a specific date. 02:50:04.047 --> 02:50:05.922 February 28, 2016. 02:50:07.110 --> 02:50:07.536 Ok, thank you 02:50:07.536 --> 02:50:08.488 very much. 02:50:10.534 --> 02:50:13.927 The next action item is on page three 02:50:14.307 --> 02:50:15.615 of the same minutes. 02:50:15.615 --> 02:50:17.016 It's Agenda Item Four. 02:50:18.541 --> 02:50:20.074 In which the committee recommended 02:50:20.093 --> 02:50:22.069 the State Board of Education take no action 02:50:22.069 --> 02:50:26.581 on the proposed for business 19 TAC Chapter 227: Provisions 02:50:26.657 --> 02:50:29.182 for Educator Preparation Candidates. 02:50:31.363 --> 02:50:32.671 Is there a motion to reject? 02:50:33.857 --> 02:50:35.373 We might expound on this one as well 02:50:36.152 --> 02:50:37.256 for just a moment. 02:50:37.640 --> 02:50:39.875 This was the item that came to our attention 02:50:39.890 --> 02:50:44.672 sometime back about raising the admission GPA requirement 02:50:45.310 --> 02:50:47.236 from 2.5 to 2.75. 02:50:47.986 --> 02:50:49.704 There was an ambiguity that was contained 02:50:49.704 --> 02:50:50.901 in the statute. 02:50:51.237 --> 02:50:53.551 The legislature took up that issue, 02:50:53.929 --> 02:50:55.077 cured the ambiguity, 02:50:55.407 --> 02:50:57.120 left it at 2.5, 02:50:57.551 --> 02:51:00.652 but then required that the admitting class 02:51:01.385 --> 02:51:04.627 of each of the preparation programs 02:51:05.057 --> 02:51:07.435 have an average GPA of 3.0. 02:51:12.979 --> 02:51:13.916 There you go. 02:51:17.213 --> 02:51:17.732 Ms. Hardy, 02:51:17.812 --> 02:51:18.297 did you want to speak? 02:51:18.297 --> 02:51:19.916 I'd like some clarification. 02:51:20.599 --> 02:51:23.359 How did that happen, that the legislature could do that 02:51:23.359 --> 02:51:24.322 when they're not in session? 02:51:24.322 --> 02:51:25.541 This was previous. 02:51:25.541 --> 02:51:26.447 This was sometime back. 02:51:26.542 --> 02:51:28.604 It was brought to us in a confused state? 02:51:30.536 --> 02:51:31.349 May I respond? 02:51:31.349 --> 02:51:32.604 Yes, Mr. Rowley. 02:51:32.604 --> 02:51:33.627 It came to us. 02:51:34.572 --> 02:51:36.593 There was some ambiguity 02:51:37.229 --> 02:51:39.672 that was contained in the original rule. 02:51:40.415 --> 02:51:43.423 SBEC made the determination that 02:51:43.568 --> 02:51:45.327 it should be 2.5. 02:51:45.838 --> 02:51:46.643 Clarified that, 02:51:46.683 --> 02:51:47.802 sent that to us, 02:51:48.530 --> 02:51:49.382 SBOE. 02:51:49.553 --> 02:51:51.860 We came back at 2.75. 02:51:52.824 --> 02:51:54.321 Actually rejected the rule, 02:51:54.600 --> 02:51:56.240 sent back to SBEC. 02:51:56.411 --> 02:51:57.071 In the meantime, 02:51:57.071 --> 02:51:59.720 there was a legislative session that took place, 02:52:00.025 --> 02:52:02.097 so this was a year or more ago. 02:52:02.771 --> 02:52:04.062 They came back 02:52:04.274 --> 02:52:07.640 and said, "no, 2.5 is the minimum standard, 02:52:07.923 --> 02:52:11.255 but the cohort average has to be 3.0." 02:52:12.709 --> 02:52:17.364 I'm not sure that you would be privy to know what would 02:52:17.364 --> 02:52:20.734 have caused the legislature to come up with such an idea 02:52:20.734 --> 02:52:23.704 that the group grade is the way we're going to go. 02:52:23.965 --> 02:52:26.391 Do you have any idea what their thinking, 02:52:26.391 --> 02:52:27.640 or lack thereof, was? 02:52:27.640 --> 02:52:32.640 I have no idea, but there are staff 02:52:32.654 --> 02:52:33.238 (laughter) 02:52:33.238 --> 02:52:34.294 There are staff members here. 02:52:34.605 --> 02:52:37.637 Dr. Miller and Mr. Regal. 02:52:38.094 --> 02:52:39.651 If either one would like to speak to that? 02:52:40.163 --> 02:52:42.245 It kind of smacks of everyone getting a trophy, 02:52:42.354 --> 02:52:43.153 if you ask me. 02:52:43.372 --> 02:52:44.596 There were some other provisions too 02:52:44.596 --> 02:52:45.797 about the 10% 02:52:46.086 --> 02:52:47.087 and all of that. 02:52:47.223 --> 02:52:50.187 Make sure, Dr. Miller. 02:52:50.904 --> 02:52:51.692 Yes, ma'am. 02:52:51.692 --> 02:52:54.076 In terms of the legislative intent of the 3.0, 02:52:54.989 --> 02:52:56.299 I don't have those materials with me. 02:52:56.299 --> 02:52:57.548 So I wouldn't want to speculate on that 02:52:57.548 --> 02:53:00.030 without reviewing anything they may have put forth 02:53:00.070 --> 02:53:02.734 as to why they went with the 3.0 cohort average. 02:53:04.039 --> 02:53:05.613 I think it means everybody got a trophy. 02:53:06.756 --> 02:53:08.117 Ok, is there 02:53:08.148 --> 02:53:09.615 a motion to reject? 02:53:11.420 --> 02:53:12.206 Hearing none, 02:53:12.206 --> 02:53:13.020 no action is taken. 02:53:13.020 --> 02:53:16.123 Proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 227: Provisions 02:53:16.123 --> 02:53:18.747 for the Educator Preparations Candidates 02:53:18.747 --> 02:53:21.874 will take affect on February 28, 2016. 02:53:25.971 --> 02:53:26.541 And, that's it. 02:53:26.541 --> 02:53:29.723 Members, I look forward to going to some of your districts 02:53:30.002 --> 02:53:31.300 before the next meeting 02:53:31.404 --> 02:53:32.900 and having our community conversations. 02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:34.347 I really look forward to that. 02:53:36.678 --> 02:53:37.733 Also, I wanted 02:53:37.733 --> 02:53:38.737 to make an announcement. 02:53:38.737 --> 02:53:40.042 Barbara Cargill 02:53:40.042 --> 02:53:41.098 and Pat Hardy are receiving 02:53:41.098 --> 02:53:43.425 the Texas Education Leadership and Literacy Award 02:53:46.054 --> 02:53:50.487 from the Texas Association for Literacy Education. 02:53:50.755 --> 02:53:53.310 Saturday, February 13 in San Antonio. 02:53:54.035 --> 02:53:56.911 Recognizing them for their efforts of promoting literacy 02:53:56.911 --> 02:53:57.741 for all students. 02:53:57.874 --> 02:53:58.647 Thank you very much. 02:53:58.999 --> 02:54:00.086 I believe Barbara Cargill 02:54:00.250 --> 02:54:02.236 and Thomas Ratliff, right? 02:54:03.265 --> 02:54:05.525 Are receiving an award from the Texas Music 02:54:05.755 --> 02:54:07.262 Educators Association, correct? 02:54:07.480 --> 02:54:09.293 Friday, February 12 in San Antonio. 02:54:11.022 --> 02:54:12.668 (applause) 02:54:12.668 --> 02:54:13.693 (laughter) 02:54:13.852 --> 02:54:14.436 Absolutely. 02:54:14.563 --> 02:54:15.548 Is there any other - ? 02:54:15.548 --> 02:54:16.784 Oh, we 02:54:16.807 --> 02:54:17.145 have an engagement, yes. 02:54:17.145 --> 02:54:19.093 Erica Beltran is engaged. 02:54:19.112 --> 02:54:20.039 We're excited about that. 02:54:20.662 --> 02:54:22.275 (applause) 02:54:22.297 --> 02:54:23.440 Congratulations. 02:54:24.272 --> 02:54:25.930 We should have a little bundle of joy 02:54:25.930 --> 02:54:27.348 almost next time. 02:54:28.131 --> 02:54:30.229 (laughter) 02:54:30.318 --> 02:54:32.055 (applause) 02:54:48.611 --> 02:54:49.538 Alright, members. 02:54:49.538 --> 02:54:50.771 If we have no other 02:54:50.793 --> 02:54:51.760 Madam Chair. 02:54:51.776 --> 02:54:52.502 Oh yes, 02:54:52.502 --> 02:54:52.752 I'm sorry. 02:54:53.068 --> 02:54:54.044 Ms. Monica. 02:54:54.183 --> 02:54:57.416 I was asked if we could just make a plug. 02:54:58.037 --> 02:55:00.785 We are still looking for instructional materials reviewers 02:55:00.785 --> 02:55:03.354 for Proclamation 2017. 02:55:03.425 --> 02:55:04.500 That's CTE 02:55:04.858 --> 02:55:06.587 and the Special Topics in Social Studies 02:55:07.162 --> 02:55:09.002 and languages other than English. 02:55:09.365 --> 02:55:12.119 If you would please get the word out 02:55:12.257 --> 02:55:14.706 that we're still looking for reviewers, that would 02:55:14.706 --> 02:55:15.742 be really helpful. 02:55:16.794 --> 02:55:18.691 So, we need reviewers. 02:55:19.054 --> 02:55:21.238 Would you mind sending us a reminder? 02:55:21.238 --> 02:55:23.079 We'll ask Renee to send a reminder 02:55:23.310 --> 02:55:25.479 with the link to the application again. 02:55:27.867 --> 02:55:28.677 CTE, 02:55:28.677 --> 02:55:29.912 languages other than English, 02:55:30.080 --> 02:55:31.543 Special Topics in Social Studies, 02:55:32.650 --> 02:55:34.110 and Algebraic Reasoning. 02:55:35.296 --> 02:55:36.430 We have enough for the Math. 02:55:36.655 --> 02:55:37.448 We need CTE, 02:55:37.448 --> 02:55:39.937 languages other than English, primarily. 02:55:40.889 --> 02:55:42.373 Oh, ok, ok, great. 02:55:43.218 --> 02:55:45.440 Members, if there's 02:55:45.440 --> 02:55:46.284 no other business, 02:55:46.284 --> 02:55:47.347 the meeting is adjourned. 02:55:47.347 --> 02:55:48.187 Thank you very much. 02:55:50.138 --> 02:55:50.637 (gavel bang)