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The Junior Historians from West, Texas.
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They are going to dance some Czech dances
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for us this morning.
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I'm so excited.
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I hope y'all will enjoy it as much as I enjoy
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seeing them dance.
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They were formed in 1975 by one of our beloved members
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of the community
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and the education community as well.
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We all knew him as Poon Morgan.
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Unfortunately, Poon
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has passed away
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but I know he's watching these kids dance,
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because he took great pride in them.
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They have traveled to the Czech Republic representing
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West and the United States
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and Texas.
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They've traveled all over Texas representing West
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and West ISD just promoting the culture of the Czech people
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across the whole State of Texas.
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So without further adeiu, I give to you,
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the Junior Historian Czech dancers from West, Texas.
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(speaking in foreign language)
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That's Czech for good morning,
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How are you?
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We are the West High School Junior Historian
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Performing Dancers
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representing Czech culture for over 40 years
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for the community of West,
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a small town almost two hours north.
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Our community of West is proud of its
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Czech descendants
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and heritage.
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The Junior Historians,
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through its performances,
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seek to share part of this culture with you.
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Here's our first dance performance to an old favorite polka,
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"Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie."
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(uptempo music)
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♫ I am here,
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I am there,
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I'm everywhere.
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I'm over here
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and I'm over there.
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I am here,
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I am there,
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I'm everywhere.
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Let's all play hide and seek.
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Apples, Peaches,
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Pumpkin Pie,
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who's not ready,
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holler I.
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Let's all play hide and seek.
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Apple, Peaches,
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Pumpkin Pie,
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who's not ready, holler I.
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Let's all play hide and seek. ♫
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(uptempo music)
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♫ I am here,
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I am there,
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I'm everywhere.
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I'm over here,
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then I'm over there.
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I am here,
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I am there.
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I'm everywhere.
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Let's all play hide and seek.
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Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie,
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who's not ready, holler I.
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Let's all play hide and seek.
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Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie,
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who's not ready holler, I.
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Let's all play hide and seek. ♫
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(uptempo music)
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(applause)
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As the dancers get ready
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for the Garden Waltz,
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note that the costumes of our dancers are similar
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to those worn by the early Czech settlers.
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Our performances feature Goya,
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folk costumes from the Czech Republic
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and Slovakia.
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These costumes blend bold colors,
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fine fabrics,
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and detailed designs in the works of wearable art.
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The next dance is a variation of Furient that was performed
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during rural festivals in what is now the Czech Republic.
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Here is the Garden Waltz,
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also known as the Flying Dutchmen
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or the Troika.
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(uptempo music)
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(applause)
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The next dance,
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the 7-Step Polka,
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is an example of a dance of Czech origin
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it was a favorite dance style of society
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for more than 50 years.
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This style was first performed in a small Bohemian village
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back in 1830.
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After its performance in Paris in 1844,
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it became the most popular dance in the capitals of Europe.
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The group will now perform the 7-Step Polka.
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(uptempo music)
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(applause)
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Next,
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our dancer will perform Maraska Besida,
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the Bravidant Besida,
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the Czech national dance.
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Each of the parts of this routine tells a separate story.
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For example,
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one part tells a group of young people
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who are out having fun
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and the girls decide to look around to see if they can find
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new partners who are more to their liking or suiting.
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Now the dancers will perform the Maraska Besida.
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(low-tempo music)
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(applause)
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Before they perform their final routine,
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I want to recognize a special member of our group.
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We have with us Ms. Czech Texas, Czech Slovak Queen,
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Ms. Allison Sexton.
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(applause)
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Here's our final performance to Henry Mancini's waltz,
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the "Summer in Gstaad"
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or, "the Gstaad Waltz."
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Although "the Summer in Gstaad" refers to Gstaad, Switzerland,
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the world, 'waltz,' is derived from the old German word 'walzen,'
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meaning to roll, turn
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or to glide.
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Here's "The Summer in Gstaad Waltz."
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(uptempo music)
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(applause)
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We hope you've enjoyed our performances
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as we've shared a small part of our Czech heritage with you.
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Thank you.
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(applause)
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Let's give them another round of applause.
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Thank you so much Czech dancers for coming today
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and sharing part of your morning with us
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and you got out of school for a little while.
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(laughter)
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I'm proud to say I taught a couple of these kiddos
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that are dancing today.
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I'm very, very proud of them.
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We have something for you.
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We have a certificate.
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State Board of Education special recognition
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presented to West High School Junior Historians,
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Aaron Wernet, sponsor
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in appreciation for outstanding performance
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at the State Board of Education general meeting,
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January 29, 2016,
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Austin, Texas,
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Sue Melton-Malone,
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this State Board of Education, District 14.
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This is their director, Aaron Wernet.
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(applause)
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The superintendent for West ISD
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is Dr. David Truett
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and the principal of the high school
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is Don Snook.
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Unfortunately, they were
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not able to be with us this morning,
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but we're sending greetings back from us to them.
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Thank you again Czech dancers so very much
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that you represent West ISD and West
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so, so wonderfully
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and we are so proud of you.
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We thank you so much for being here with us today.
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(applause)
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Dr. Dominguez,
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if you'll give our invocation and pledges.
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Father, Gracious God,
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thank you for the gift of today.
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We thank you for the opportunity to begin this new year.
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You have made human beings in such a way that all education
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is most important for our welfare.
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We ask that you bless the students,
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faculty,
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student families,
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superintendents,
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local school boards commissioner of education,
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governor,
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and this board.
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We ask for your guidance
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and that this board's actions
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make our schools lively centers for sound learning,
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new discovery
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and the pursuit of wisdom for each student.
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Therefore, teach us
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when to speak
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and when to listen.
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In moments of challenge,
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and decision,
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attune our hearts to the whispering of your wisdom.
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We pray that you will guide us in all ways
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so that we will seek your will in everything that we do.
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We ask this in thy name, amen.
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I pledge allegiance
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if you could rise please,
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I pledge allegiance
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to the flag,
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of the United States of America.
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And to the republic,
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for which it stands,
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one nation,
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under God,
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indivisible with liberty
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and justice for all.
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The Texas pledge.
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Honor the Texas flag,
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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas,
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One state under God,
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one and indivisible.
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Thank you Dr. Dominguez.
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You're welcome.
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Members we're about to do the roll call.
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If there's some folks in the back.
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Mr. Allen.
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Mrs. Bahorich.
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Here.
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Ms. Beltran.
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Mr. Bradley.
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Mrs. Cargill.
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Mr. Cortez.
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Dr. Dominguez.
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Here.
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Ms. Hardy.
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Here.
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Mr. Maynard.
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Here.
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Mrs. Malton-Malone.
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Here.
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Mr. Mercer.
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District Five is present.
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Mrs. Miller.
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Ms. Perez.
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Mr. Ratliff.
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Mr. Rowley.
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Here.
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Members we are very honored to have
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the Texas Superintendent of the Year,
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Texas Teacher of the Year,
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as well as the Secondary Teacher of the Year
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here with us this morning.
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I'm going to ask Mary Ann Whitaker,
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who is the Texas Superintendent of the Year,
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to come forward
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and give us some remarks.
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Welcome, Mary Ann.
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(applause)
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Yeah, you gotta
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push that button.
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Chairwoman Bahorich,
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thank you so very much for this invitation today.
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To the other board members,
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I'm thrilled to be here
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and share some insights on how I feel
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and what we need to be doing for students to be successful.
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I'm going to tweak my assignment just a tad.
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What I would like to share with you
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is probably more of my philosophy right now
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and actually what we are doing in my district
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and I can assure you it is bringing tremendous success.
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The first driver that I'm going to mention today
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is probably not politically correct at this time,
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but oh well.
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After 43 years,
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what are they going to do to me?
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(laughter)
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The first thing I'm going to say is that at Hudson ISD
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we are no longer playing the testing game
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or the accountability game.
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God forgive me for what I have done to students
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and teachers over banners on a wall
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and plaques in the offices.
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That was wrong.
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I'm ashamed of that
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and I have spent the last four years trying to undo
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that mistake.
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You say is it working?
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Yes, I'm a
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mid-sized school in East Texas
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with over 50% of my students poverty.
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We are a property-poor school district
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with very limited resources,
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and in a few moments I will share
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some of the success we are having.
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Most importantly,
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my children love to come to school
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and that is truly exciting.
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The next thing I want to share with you is,
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ok, I gave up the testing game
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so what did I go to?
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This document right here.
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It's a new vision for 21st century education.
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Oh my gosh.
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This was created by 35 very courageous superintendents
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along with TASA.
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They spent two years developing this document
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and for months I thought it was going to be just
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for the urban, rich schools.
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Until finally my friends convinced me to read this document.
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I read it,
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read it again
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and started highlighting.
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I realized,
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my gosh, this is for all students in the state of Texas.
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It's not just about the rich
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and the wealthy,
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and the big urban areas.
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It is about all students.
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The beauty of this document is it is not a how.
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it doesn't tell you how to go out
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and what programs to buy
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and what to do.
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It's very similar to the Declaration of Independence
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and I am calling this my Declaration for Education.
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It's based on priciples of what quality education
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should be for the 21st century.
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There are five basic principles that are driving my school
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at this time with tremendous success.
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Very briefly, I would kind of like to give you an idea of how
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that is a little different from what maybe we
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have been doing.
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First of all,
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let's talk about learning standards.
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I have here two grade levels of learning standards TEKS.
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For first grade,
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35 pages of standards for a six year old.
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35 pages.
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If you're in the third grade,
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I have 45 pages of standards.
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Our children go to school 180 days
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or now 75,600 minutes.
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This is too much.
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So what we have done
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is we have decided that we need to look at broader concepts,
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we need to narrow what we are teaching.
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At this time while we're awaiting
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with your wisdom to begin reviewing the TEKS
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and recognizing that we've had too much,
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we're focusing on the readiness standards.
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The beauty is when you focus on readiness standards,
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you're going to hit the supporting.
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But stay with standards long enough
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to master those standards.
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Another thing I discovered in this process,
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for too long when you're playing the testing game,
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you're focusing on the testing grade levels
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or the subject.
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When we stepped back from this,
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I realized my elementary scores had not been
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where they needed to be,
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not because I had a problem at elementary school,
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I had a problem at primary school.
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My children couldn't read when they left the second grade.
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I began to look at what we were using,
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where we were going
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and I realized phonics had been thrown out the window
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years and years ago.
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Our students did not have skills to attack reading.
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I was able to work with the Blue Bird Clinic of Houston and
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Neuhaus.
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I now have all my primary teachers Pre-K through third grade
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trained in Neuhaus.
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We have a 45-minute lesson every day in phonics
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giving kids the tools to sound words.
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The amazing thing is after that first year,
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with only my second grade students being exposed to phonics,
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do you know it reduced the number of students going
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into my RtI program in third grade by 50%?
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That was pretty astounding.
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We also have begun looking at a lot of the foundation skills
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that our students don't have
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and creating programs where we're going back
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and teaching students the math facts,
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we're teaching them operations.
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Those things they've skimmed over,
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but they no longer have the foundations
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and it was killing our kids in middle school.
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Multiple assessments,
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yes, I believe in assessments.
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Very, very strongly.
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However, we
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no longer talk about the STAAR and EOC.
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I gave an administrative directive in my district three
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years ago no teacher could mention.
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STAAR or EOC to a child all year long.
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It better not go on a worksheet that went home.
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We don't give benchmark testing.
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Imagine, we have gone
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back to nine-week assessments testing students
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based on what we instructed that nine weeks.
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However, the caveat is
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a certain percent have to be level two questions,
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a certain percent have to be level three.
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It is consistent across the grade level
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or across the subject area in high school.
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It is amazing what is happening,
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because you see our teachers truly learning
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what higher level thinking is.
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They're having to develop those test
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and teach to those test that they are developing.
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We use authentic assessment
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and diagnostic test.
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The next item,
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digital learning.
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Integrating digital learning in our classrooms.
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So powerful.
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It doesn't replace the teacher,
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however, it has
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brought the world into our classrooms
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and is so individualized to where students
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can continue to work on what they need to work on
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and do it independently.
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We also have spent a great deal of time teaching
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our teachers how to integrate.
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You can't integrate digital learning if your teachers
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don't know how.
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We've developed competencies,
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showcase training,
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all sorts of things to help them.
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Next, transformation.
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We no longer have improvement plans.
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In TEA,
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I still meet all the requirements that are in law.
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We do not call them improvement plans,
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we call them 21st Century learning plans
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designed around the concepts in this document.
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We have identified the standards that our students
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have gaps.
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All of our strategies focus on standards
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and we're using these different areas to address
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those standards.
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It is working like a charm.
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I don't know if you've looked at all the requirements
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for our campus improvement plan,
00:33:37.775 --> 00:33:39.069
but it would choke a horse.
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We developed an appendix
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and we meet all the requirements,
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I can send them to TEA if you need to look at it
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and check it off.
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It has truly made a difference
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because we have the same goals
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and the same objectives for all the campuses
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and the district.
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The strategies are different,
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depending on the campus.
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Finally, accountability.
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I believe in accountability, strongly.
00:34:05.788 --> 00:34:07.940
However, more than
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just a test.
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The community engagement piece has brought
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our parents alive.
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As a matter of fact,
00:34:14.846 --> 00:34:16.970
when we began working on the rating this year,
00:34:16.970 --> 00:34:20.345
our parents wanted to give us much higher scores than
00:34:20.345 --> 00:34:22.514
we felt we needed to give ourselves.
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That has been tremendous.
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Student portfolios.
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We do a lot of community service.
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Every organization has to adopt something
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within the community to work with to enhance our community.
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Of course,
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extra curricular.
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Look what we just witnessed today.
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I will end by one short, revised personal story that has
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affirmed what I do.
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My husband has decided after 43 years,
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Mary Ann you need a plan for when you retire.
00:34:53.555 --> 00:34:56.151
He decided that I needed to learn to play golf.
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Now, I am a fine arts person.
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I played music,
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I twirled,
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I did the piano,
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I did the organ,
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I did all that stuff.
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I'm not an athlete.
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I never did any of that.
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I ask you all,
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the little white ball sits on the ground,
00:35:12.652 --> 00:35:14.265
how hard could that be?
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(laughter)
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I said, "okay, I can do that."
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It just sits there.
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All I you do is swing.
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I want you to know I have played the most beautiful game
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of croquet you have ever seen in your entire life.
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My husband very gently said,
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Mary Ann, I think
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maybe you need lessons.
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Yeah, you think.
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He got me lessons with a golf pro.
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I went out there,
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I had my lessons.
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Of course, the first
00:35:40.262 --> 00:35:43.570
thing he tells me is, "you gotta balance, like when you're
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on the basketball court."
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I never played basketball
00:35:45.952 --> 00:35:47.424
so that went right over my head.
00:35:48.604 --> 00:35:50.984
He tried to relate to playing softball,
00:35:51.241 --> 00:35:52.202
well, I had never done that,
00:35:52.313 --> 00:35:53.882
so that didn't help me at all.
00:35:55.292 --> 00:35:56.360
Well, I took lessons.
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I practiced
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and I practiced.
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Weekends, I practiced,
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I mean when it was 100 degrees outside late in the afternoon
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I would be out there practicing.
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We're talking months of practice
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and lessons.
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.358
This one beautiful day my husband says let's go out
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on the course.
00:36:15.902 --> 00:36:16.831
Fairway Three,
00:36:17.013 --> 00:36:18.625
I shall never forget.
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He tees off the most beautiful shot you have seen in your
00:36:22.571 --> 00:36:23.510
entire life.
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I thought, 'ok,
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I can do this.'
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I got up to my little red tee,
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I had everything ready,
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everything lined up,
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I stood behind like I'm supposed to.
00:36:33.464 --> 00:36:35.587
I got all lined up and ready to go
00:36:35.845 --> 00:36:36.781
and I swung.
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It was abysmal.
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I walked out to the cart,
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I sat down
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and burst into tears.
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Grown woman,
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Fairway Three,
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in the cart, crying.
00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:52.043
I looked at my husband
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and said
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do you know,
00:36:53.875 --> 00:36:55.089
I can cook,
00:36:55.310 --> 00:36:56.531
I can play the piano,
00:36:56.537 --> 00:36:58.035
I can play the organ,
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I was a fabulous first grade teacher
00:37:00.957 --> 00:37:02.919
and I'm a pretty good superintendent.
00:37:03.385 --> 00:37:07.420
Why do I keep doing something that makes me feel so badly
00:37:07.420 --> 00:37:08.523
about myself?
00:37:09.264 --> 00:37:11.256
Wow. It hit me.
00:37:12.136 --> 00:37:15.280
I then knew I was on the right path.
00:37:15.643 --> 00:37:18.935
I thought how many kids have I destroyed,
00:37:19.509 --> 00:37:22.954
because they couldn't do one test.
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I'm here to beg you,
00:37:25.959 --> 00:37:29.527
and that's my message with whoever will listen to me,
00:37:30.204 --> 00:37:32.434
we have to stop this craziness.
00:37:32.901 --> 00:37:34.353
This is wrong.
00:37:34.353 --> 00:37:35.034
It's wrong for kids
00:37:35.109 --> 00:37:36.261
and it's wrong for education,
00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:38.289
and it's wrong for Texas.
00:37:38.786 --> 00:37:41.475
Our businesses say they aren't prepared for business.
00:37:41.584 --> 00:37:44.755
Our colleges say they aren't prepared for colleges.
00:37:45.152 --> 00:37:48.067
We need to stop what we're doing; it's not working.
00:37:48.816 --> 00:37:50.168
There is something better.
00:37:50.357 --> 00:37:55.000
I can tell you TASA has so many people working to try
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.166
to move us in a new direction
00:37:57.167 --> 00:38:00.870
and I'm so thrilled to hear that you are so open to realize
00:38:01.335 --> 00:38:02.793
it's the 21st century.
00:38:02.902 --> 00:38:05.732
It's time for us to move to something new
00:38:05.743 --> 00:38:06.536
and better.
00:38:06.938 --> 00:38:09.945
I'm sorry there's not a little red light there that tells me
00:38:09.945 --> 00:38:10.909
to be quiet.
00:38:11.552 --> 00:38:12.971
Once again,
00:38:13.081 --> 00:38:15.037
thank you so very much for this opportunity.
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(applause)
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Thank you.
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I will leave you with a couple of handouts.
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I have learned a long time ago don't hand it out
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before you talk
00:38:41.358 --> 00:38:42.620
or everyone looks at your handout.
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The first one's just the notes that I covered.
00:38:45.154 --> 00:38:47.930
I wrote some articles over the last three years
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and I wrote them in layman's terms
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so grandmothers could understand
00:38:51.756 --> 00:38:53.918
and people next door could understand
00:38:53.979 --> 00:38:55.205
what we're dealing with.
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I'm going to leave these here
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and they can be distributed whenever.
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Thank you, Mary Ann.
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Really appreciate your time this morning
00:39:01.971 --> 00:39:03.225
and sharing your thoughts
00:39:03.389 --> 00:39:05.207
and words of wisdom.
00:39:05.342 --> 00:39:06.144
We really appreciate it.
00:39:06.144 --> 00:39:07.133
Thank you.
00:39:07.133 --> 00:39:09.789
Congratulations for being superintendent of the year.
00:39:09.789 --> 00:39:10.849
That's very impressive.
00:39:11.498 --> 00:39:12.182
Very impressive.
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Thank you for serving our children so well.
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(applause)
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Absolutely.
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Yes, Mr. Ratliff.
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I just want y'all to know,
00:39:21.905 --> 00:39:23.296
Mary Ann lives in my district
00:39:23.464 --> 00:39:26.052
and for the last six years, has been
00:39:26.052 --> 00:39:27.377
one of my shoulder angels
00:39:27.377 --> 00:39:30.680
to help me understand the role I play here on the board
00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:33.203
and some of the granularity
00:39:33.365 --> 00:39:34.144
of the details.
00:39:34.144 --> 00:39:36.909
House Bill Five would not have been possible for me
00:39:37.005 --> 00:39:38.177
without people like Mary Ann.
00:39:39.072 --> 00:39:40.501
There are a lot of deserving superintendants
00:39:40.501 --> 00:39:41.259
around the state,
00:39:41.259 --> 00:39:42.074
but I assure you,
00:39:42.074 --> 00:39:43.961
there is no one more deserving than Mary Ann Whitaker
00:39:43.961 --> 00:39:44.921
to get that award.
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Thank you for coming.
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Absolutely, thank you.
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Now we have Texas Teacher of the Year.
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I'm hoping I say this correctly,
00:39:53.097 --> 00:39:54.357
I'm going to do my best.
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Revathi Balakrishnan.
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Did I get close?
00:40:01.277 --> 00:40:03.327
I did, yes, wonderful.
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Congratulations,
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and we're so happy to have you.
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Thank you, thank you.
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(applause)
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Do I push something?
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No, you're
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ready to go.
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Well, Ms. Whitaker,
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you took my speech.
00:40:20.655 --> 00:40:23.742
I had to recalibrate while she was talking.
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I'd like to thank the State Board of Education for inviting
00:40:27.859 --> 00:40:28.619
me here.
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I will probably be the only Texas Teacher of the Year
00:40:32.606 --> 00:40:34.056
without a Texan accent.
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You're going to have to put up with me for a year.
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I am a talented
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and gifted specialist at Patsy Sommer Elementary
00:40:44.084 --> 00:40:45.389
in Round Rock ISD.
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I teach the top five percent of students in my school.
00:40:51.944 --> 00:40:54.840
I was going to talk to you about standardized testing
00:40:55.354 --> 00:40:57.917
because it creates havoc in my classroom.
00:40:58.785 --> 00:41:00.294
My students are perfectionist
00:41:01.011 --> 00:41:04.320
and if they don't get 49 out of 50 questions right,
00:41:05.252 --> 00:41:07.066
I need the counselor in my classroom.
00:41:09.531 --> 00:41:11.684
If this can happen in a gifted classroom,
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I can only imagine what happening in the regular classrooms.
00:41:18.095 --> 00:41:20.911
I'm not here to talk to you about the perils
00:41:20.987 --> 00:41:22.208
of standardized testing,
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because you've heard enough about it,
00:41:23.979 --> 00:41:26.503
except for the fact that it stresses teachers out.
00:41:26.874 --> 00:41:29.325
The stress it stresses students out
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.550
and the stress levels in all the schools is much more than
00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:35.503
the California earthquake fault line.
00:41:37.971 --> 00:41:41.159
I am going to talk to you about what we can not do
00:41:41.167 --> 00:41:43.680
as teachers because of standardized testing.
00:41:47.048 --> 00:41:52.048
Teachers can not, for example, talk to students about the new biggest
00:41:54.163 --> 00:41:57.064
prime number that was discovered yesterday.
00:41:58.303 --> 00:42:02.647
That is 2 raised to 78 million, 504 thousand something
00:42:03.266 --> 00:42:04.227
minus one.
00:42:05.577 --> 00:42:09.813
We can not have the time to discuss why minus one
00:42:11.705 --> 00:42:16.705
or students don't have the time to ask, "why not plus one?'"
00:42:19.145 --> 00:42:20.830
There is no time for critical thinking,
00:42:21.229 --> 00:42:24.548
because we are jumping from TEK to TEK trying to make sure
00:42:24.548 --> 00:42:26.877
that we are covering everything
00:42:26.877 --> 00:42:29.534
and getting ready for March and April.
00:42:30.933 --> 00:42:32.010
As she pointed out,
00:42:32.165 --> 00:42:36.961
35, 45 pages of TEKS does not give time
00:42:36.961 --> 00:42:41.226
for the classroom teacher to expand the world of learning
00:42:41.298 --> 00:42:43.807
for the students outside the classroom.
00:42:46.263 --> 00:42:49.090
Ten years, nine years ago,
00:42:49.243 --> 00:42:50.635
I approached my principal,
00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:53.812
because I wanted to teach Shakespeare to my 4th
00:42:53.812 --> 00:42:55.082
and 5th grade students.
00:42:56.088 --> 00:42:59.359
She told me I want to know what TEKS this covers.
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That was easy.
00:43:01.635 --> 00:43:03.261
I printed out the 5th grade TEKS,
00:43:03.697 --> 00:43:06.308
highlighted everything on the ELA TEKS
00:43:06.531 --> 00:43:07.718
and said, "here you go."
00:43:09.406 --> 00:43:11.558
With a $5 copy of Macbeth,
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I can teach the entire English Language Arts TEKS
00:43:15.620 --> 00:43:17.417
from third grade to twelfth grade.
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I do not need anything else.
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She granted
00:43:21.693 --> 00:43:25.537
and said, "just make sure they pass the TAKS."
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Wouldn't it be great if our students can actually
00:43:31.646 --> 00:43:33.469
listen to the State of the Union address
00:43:34.491 --> 00:43:36.397
and compare the President's speech
00:43:36.873 --> 00:43:40.507
to the speech made by Mark Anthony in Julius Caesar?
00:43:41.453 --> 00:43:43.873
Wouldn't it be great if they could savor the language
00:43:44.378 --> 00:43:45.341
of Shakespeare,
00:43:45.594 --> 00:43:46.327
and Wordsworth,
00:43:46.349 --> 00:43:47.619
and Longfellow?
00:43:48.213 --> 00:43:50.364
Wouldn't it be great if they can compare China
00:43:50.765 --> 00:43:54.584
and the Chairman Mao to the Israeli Palestinian Conflict
00:43:55.137 --> 00:43:57.045
to Apartheid in South Africa
00:43:57.873 --> 00:44:01.206
and learn about the negative affects of racial prejudices
00:44:02.024 --> 00:44:02.999
in history
00:44:03.285 --> 00:44:06.877
and apply it to the real world so that we do not have
00:44:06.877 --> 00:44:08.615
the current racial prejudices?
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Well, guess what?
00:44:10.992 --> 00:44:12.898
All of this happens in my classroom.
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We discuss all of this in my classroom,
00:44:16.317 --> 00:44:19.180
because I do not teach to the STAAR.
00:44:20.578 --> 00:44:22.395
There's a certain amount of stress in me,
00:44:23.262 --> 00:44:25.213
because I'm just waiting for that one year
00:44:26.198 --> 00:44:29.821
when one of my students does not get a level 3.
00:44:31.476 --> 00:44:34.168
It has never happened so far in the past nine years
00:44:34.533 --> 00:44:35.627
all of my students,
00:44:36.303 --> 00:44:38.750
if they have not aced that TAKS or the STAAR,
00:44:39.077 --> 00:44:40.626
they've come very close to it.
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You know what I tell my students?
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Just get this over with so that we can get
00:44:46.737 --> 00:44:47.819
on to better things.
00:44:50.423 --> 00:44:54.665
What I want for this to happen is for every student
00:44:54.665 --> 00:44:57.611
in Texas to get that excitement of learning.
00:44:58.125 --> 00:45:00.718
I want every child in every hallway
00:45:00.769 --> 00:45:04.792
and every school in Texas to say, "I can not wait to go
00:45:04.792 --> 00:45:05.781
to school today.
00:45:06.624 --> 00:45:09.311
I can not wait to learn from authentic text.
00:45:09.958 --> 00:45:13.149
I can not wait to learn what is going on in the real world
00:45:13.229 --> 00:45:16.790
and I can not wait to see how my learning is applied
00:45:16.790 --> 00:45:17.805
to the real world."
00:45:18.903 --> 00:45:19.982
With standardized testing,
00:45:20.938 --> 00:45:22.265
our hands are tied.
00:45:22.629 --> 00:45:25.107
I'm not saying that standardized testing should be
00:45:25.107 --> 00:45:26.326
eliminated completely,
00:45:26.650 --> 00:45:28.470
but it should be reduced definitely.
00:45:28.470 --> 00:45:32.025
So that teachers in every school district have the time
00:45:32.249 --> 00:45:35.175
to create that excitement in learning.
00:45:36.574 --> 00:45:40.310
Remember what Sir Ken Robinson said about 16 billion
00:45:40.357 --> 00:45:44.318
going into testing at the Tulsa Mid-Winter Conference?
00:45:44.540 --> 00:45:46.123
Let's take that that 16 billion
00:45:46.993 --> 00:45:48.898
and put it towards teacher training
00:45:50.033 --> 00:45:54.164
and put it towards teacher mentoring, so that we can grow
00:45:54.249 --> 00:45:58.219
good teachers, so that we can grow good students.
00:45:59.638 --> 00:46:03.137
That is where I think we will be really successful
00:46:03.137 --> 00:46:05.519
in growing good students,
00:46:05.663 --> 00:46:09.593
successful students so that Texas will become,
00:46:10.205 --> 00:46:12.344
like in our school district, we call it the
00:46:12.344 --> 00:46:13.956
Destination District,
00:46:15.038 --> 00:46:18.322
So that Texas will become the destination state for students
00:46:18.610 --> 00:46:20.152
and for businesses.
00:46:20.692 --> 00:46:21.735
Thank you very much.
00:46:21.958 --> 00:46:25.037
(applause)
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We have one more teacher with us,
00:46:40.205 --> 00:46:42.000
Martha Saucedo.
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She's the Secondary Teacher of the Year.
00:46:45.155 --> 00:46:48.068
(applause)
00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:53.472
Good morning.
00:46:54.010 --> 00:46:58.674
Those are two amazing speeches to follow, so I'm going to try
00:46:58.674 --> 00:47:00.079
to do my very best here.
00:47:01.031 --> 00:47:03.307
Good morning to the State Board of Education.
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.297
My name is Martha Saucedo,
00:47:05.297 --> 00:47:08.514
and I'm the 2016 secondary teacher of the year.
00:47:09.295 --> 00:47:12.597
I'd like to begin by telling you how grateful I am
00:47:12.597 --> 00:47:13.766
to be here today
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.851
and honored to have the opportunity to represent
00:47:16.863 --> 00:47:17.898
Texas teachers.
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I am an English teacher, a math teacher,
00:47:22.377 --> 00:47:23.769
a science teacher,
00:47:24.608 --> 00:47:25.974
and a history teacher.
00:47:26.900 --> 00:47:28.761
Although my official title
00:47:29.057 --> 00:47:31.430
is a family consumer science teacher.
00:47:32.540 --> 00:47:35.311
(applause)
00:47:38.295 --> 00:47:39.792
I teach Principles of Human Services
00:47:40.333 --> 00:47:43.729
Sports and Marketing Entertainment,
00:47:44.085 --> 00:47:44.882
Fashion Design,
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and Counseling in Mental Health,
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which my students like to refer to as their
00:47:49.322 --> 00:47:50.221
'psychology class.'
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I'm one of those hands-on teachers.
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Elective classes; that's easy for us.
00:47:56.825 --> 00:47:57.705
I'm a real world
00:47:57.705 --> 00:48:00.249
and I want to connect my students to the real world.
00:48:01.076 --> 00:48:02.935
In my Human Services class,
00:48:03.188 --> 00:48:05.044
it's about getting out into the community.
00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:07.350
Meeting members of the community
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and finding out what the community members want.
00:48:09.866 --> 00:48:12.046
What business want from my students.
00:48:12.258 --> 00:48:15.253
It's about connecting them to centers in town
00:48:15.404 --> 00:48:17.254
and learning about relationships
00:48:17.254 --> 00:48:19.067
and helping out their community.
00:48:19.542 --> 00:48:20.876
In my Fashion Design class,
00:48:21.310 --> 00:48:23.815
it's their newspaper design dresses that we make.
00:48:23.815 --> 00:48:25.127
We combine with Bealls,
00:48:25.127 --> 00:48:26.380
the department store,
00:48:26.677 --> 00:48:28.917
and they display the girls' and boys'
00:48:29.713 --> 00:48:32.088
outfits out in the front window,
00:48:32.177 --> 00:48:33.092
and they love that.
00:48:33.138 --> 00:48:34.153
It's in my mental-
00:48:34.153 --> 00:48:36.183
in my psychology class
00:48:36.409 --> 00:48:37.638
and it's the connection we have
00:48:37.638 --> 00:48:39.920
with the West Texas Rehab Center
00:48:39.965 --> 00:48:41.845
and how we do a little Q&A with them
00:48:41.845 --> 00:48:44.630
and how my students get to meet all these different types
00:48:44.638 --> 00:48:45.194
of therapist.
00:48:45.194 --> 00:48:47.005
They get to ask questions
00:48:47.212 --> 00:48:48.748
and get to learn about those jobs.
00:48:48.748 --> 00:48:51.537
They learn about children that might have autism.
00:48:52.205 --> 00:48:54.562
They get to go through all of these experiments
00:48:54.611 --> 00:48:55.972
and it's exciting for them.
00:48:56.582 --> 00:48:57.945
In my Sports and Entertainment class,
00:48:58.354 --> 00:49:01.752
it's about the connection we have with the San Antonio Spurs
00:49:02.151 --> 00:49:04.236
and we get to come up here to San Antonio
00:49:04.484 --> 00:49:05.689
and we meet the team,
00:49:05.689 --> 00:49:07.167
and we do a Q&A with them,
00:49:07.578 --> 00:49:10.617
and my students get real life situations
00:49:10.783 --> 00:49:12.092
and they love that.
00:49:13.120 --> 00:49:16.656
I'm also an FCCLA advisor,
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all the red jackets that you see over there.
00:49:19.397 --> 00:49:21.134
(applause)
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FCCLA is a national career and technical
00:49:24.718 --> 00:49:27.058
student-led organization.
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We're about promoting personal growth
00:49:29.809 --> 00:49:31.574
and teaching them to be leaders.
00:49:32.410 --> 00:49:35.224
Developing career preparation for these students.
00:49:36.214 --> 00:49:39.545
For the last eight years as a FCCLA advisor,
00:49:39.878 --> 00:49:41.008
I have seen that.
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:43.126
Four years ago,
00:49:43.685 --> 00:49:45.386
I took seven freshman
00:49:45.859 --> 00:49:48.153
and said I think you guys would be really good
00:49:48.153 --> 00:49:51.004
at something called "parliamentary procedure."
00:49:51.338 --> 00:49:53.462
They had no idea what I was talking about.
00:49:53.899 --> 00:49:55.165
Mr. Overby does now.
00:49:56.054 --> 00:49:57.176
I could use that.
00:49:59.843 --> 00:50:01.177
I took these freshman
00:50:01.339 --> 00:50:04.045
and I convinced them that with this they would
00:50:04.302 --> 00:50:08.251
learn so many things that would be so beneficial to them.
00:50:08.542 --> 00:50:11.678
Despite a liver transplant in one of them,
00:50:12.128 --> 00:50:13.624
despite an adoption,
00:50:14.033 --> 00:50:15.471
despite low income,
00:50:15.993 --> 00:50:19.472
those seven students are now seven seniors
00:50:19.723 --> 00:50:22.580
that Mr. Overby has now worked with as well.
00:50:23.704 --> 00:50:26.096
I connect the real world to my students all the way
00:50:26.096 --> 00:50:27.031
in Brady, Texas
00:50:27.031 --> 00:50:28.248
and I took him there.
00:50:29.589 --> 00:50:32.471
Those students have competed at the regional level,
00:50:32.767 --> 00:50:34.455
they've competed at the state level
00:50:35.352 --> 00:50:36.399
and just this last summer,
00:50:36.416 --> 00:50:39.652
they competed at the national level in Washington, D.C.
00:50:40.055 --> 00:50:41.545
where they represented Texas
00:50:41.710 --> 00:50:43.903
with a gold metal and a silver metal.
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(applause)
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I will tell you this,
00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:54.168
despite all of the adversities
00:50:54.252 --> 00:50:55.805
that those kids have grown up in,
00:50:56.260 --> 00:50:57.469
seven seniors
00:50:58.339 --> 00:50:59.712
and elective classes,
00:51:00.336 --> 00:51:02.062
doing CTE classes.
00:51:02.671 --> 00:51:05.493
Those seven seniors have all been accepted to college.
00:51:06.370 --> 00:51:09.750
Four of them are headed here to the University of Texas.
00:51:10.512 --> 00:51:12.099
One to Texas State
00:51:12.756 --> 00:51:15.705
and one to the University of Texas San Antonio
00:51:16.041 --> 00:51:18.646
and the last to Angelo State University
00:51:19.004 --> 00:51:22.897
where she will become a family consumer science teacher.
00:51:23.642 --> 00:51:27.043
(applause)
00:51:28.649 --> 00:51:29.898
As I came in today,
00:51:29.898 --> 00:51:30.827
I walked the hallways
00:51:30.827 --> 00:51:34.800
and saw the artwork by the amazing students
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:35.973
from around here.
00:51:36.466 --> 00:51:37.271
As I walked in,
00:51:37.271 --> 00:51:40.304
my heart fluttered when I saw the red jackets come by
00:51:40.304 --> 00:51:41.835
and I saw FCCLA
00:51:42.027 --> 00:51:44.626
Then I got to see FFA here as well.
00:51:45.425 --> 00:51:48.937
To be graced by this beautiful dancing here today.
00:51:50.054 --> 00:51:51.677
State Board of Education,
00:51:52.287 --> 00:51:54.271
elective classes are important.
00:51:55.154 --> 00:51:59.447
We do teach Math, Science, English and History.
00:52:00.195 --> 00:52:03.221
Please consider us when you talk about funding.
00:52:03.746 --> 00:52:06.874
Please consider us when you talk about cutting classes.
00:52:07.439 --> 00:52:10.070
We are connected to the real world for them.
00:52:11.269 --> 00:52:12.905
And, I want to leave you with this,
00:52:13.303 --> 00:52:15.910
if we tell our students who they have to be,
00:52:16.680 --> 00:52:19.698
we'll never know who they were meant to be.
00:52:20.179 --> 00:52:21.214
Thank you.
00:52:21.352 --> 00:52:24.769
(applause)
00:52:38.696 --> 00:52:40.224
That was wonderful,
00:52:40.544 --> 00:52:42.151
really, really appreciate.
00:52:44.319 --> 00:52:46.459
You've really honored us with your speeches today.
00:52:46.459 --> 00:52:48.582
We really appreciate your being here with us.
00:52:48.632 --> 00:52:50.348
Thank you so much for coming.
00:52:50.569 --> 00:52:53.616
It was really an honor to listen to all three presentations.
00:52:53.723 --> 00:52:55.346
It was wonderful.
00:52:55.628 --> 00:52:58.510
Alright, members, we're going to go to approval of the minutes.
00:52:59.242 --> 00:53:01.101
First item of business is the approval of the minutes for September 11, 2015
00:53:05.453 --> 00:53:07.825
for the November meeting, 2015.
00:53:08.434 --> 00:53:10.377
Are there any corrections to the minutes?
00:53:11.381 --> 00:53:16.381
Hearing none the minutes are approved as presented.
00:53:17.365 --> 00:53:19.374
Now, it's time for our resolutions
00:53:19.600 --> 00:53:20.475
and presentation.
00:53:20.498 --> 00:53:21.510
I believe Mr. Cortez,
00:53:21.510 --> 00:53:25.367
our Board Secretary will read those.
00:53:26.376 --> 00:53:28.908
First stop is the Presidential Awards for Excellence
00:53:28.908 --> 00:53:29.642
in Mathematics
00:53:29.642 --> 00:53:30.891
and Science Teaching.
00:53:33.170 --> 00:53:35.473
Members, you have resolutions on your desk.
00:53:41.750 --> 00:53:43.050
Yes, good morning.
00:53:43.418 --> 00:53:46.677
If we can get members Allen,
00:53:47.970 --> 00:53:49.142
Chair Bahorich,
00:53:49.525 --> 00:53:50.622
member Cargill,
00:53:51.318 --> 00:53:52.368
member Mercer
00:53:53.288 --> 00:53:54.778
and member Miller to the circle.
00:53:55.466 --> 00:53:58.549
If all of our Presidential Award for Excellence
00:53:58.571 --> 00:54:01.930
in Mathematics and Science Teaching recipients
00:54:02.123 --> 00:54:06.357
can join your member in our circle.
00:54:18.128 --> 00:54:19.933
As they're getting situated,
00:54:20.496 --> 00:54:21.460
are there any administrators
00:54:21.460 --> 00:54:24.649
or special guest accompanying our recipients today?
00:54:25.455 --> 00:54:28.313
If you're in the room, please stand to be recognized.
00:54:31.785 --> 00:54:33.439
Thank you all for being here with them today.
00:54:33.489 --> 00:54:36.837
(applause)
00:55:01.084 --> 00:55:04.431
(laughter)
00:55:04.907 --> 00:55:05.789
Alright.
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Good morning.
00:55:07.214 --> 00:55:07.561
I'm going to go ahead
00:55:07.561 --> 00:55:08.762
and read this resolution.
00:55:08.918 --> 00:55:10.268
Looks like everybody's situated.
00:55:10.872 --> 00:55:12.719
Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.977
in Mathematics and Science Teaching programs
00:55:15.137 --> 00:55:19.670
identifies outstanding science and mathematics teachers
00:55:20.062 --> 00:55:21.135
in each state
00:55:22.268 --> 00:55:24.281
and in the four U.S. jurisdictions.
00:55:25.293 --> 00:55:27.612
Whereas through state selection committees,
00:55:28.041 --> 00:55:30.097
five mathematics finalists,
00:55:30.255 --> 00:55:31.685
five science finalists
00:55:31.685 --> 00:55:33.362
were nominated as Texas finalists.
00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:37.406
Whereas these teachers become candidates
00:55:37.745 --> 00:55:38.943
for the Presidential Awards
00:55:39.484 --> 00:55:42.064
for Excellence in Mathematics and Science Teaching.
00:55:42.985 --> 00:55:46.879
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the
00:55:46.879 --> 00:55:48.118
State Board of Education
00:55:48.472 --> 00:55:50.885
does hereby extend its congratulations
00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:53.168
to Johnathan Clayton,
00:55:53.915 --> 00:55:55.885
Northbrook Senior High School,
00:55:57.912 --> 00:55:59.692
Spring Branch Independent School District,
00:56:00.042 --> 00:56:00.955
Houston, Texas.
00:56:01.739 --> 00:56:05.131
Darla Emerson, Lovejoy High School,
00:56:05.749 --> 00:56:07.428
Lovejoy Independent School District,
00:56:07.996 --> 00:56:09.236
Lucas, Texas.
00:56:10.610 --> 00:56:11.647
Rebecca Grant,
00:56:13.113 --> 00:56:14.434
Haggard Middle School,
00:56:14.742 --> 00:56:16.237
Plano Independent School District,
00:56:16.545 --> 00:56:17.495
Plano, Texas.
00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:19.845
(applause)
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.028
Patty Hill,
00:56:21.302 --> 00:56:22.210
Kealing Middle School,
00:56:22.522 --> 00:56:24.304
Austin Independent School District,
00:56:24.538 --> 00:56:25.444
Austin, Texas.
00:56:25.525 --> 00:56:27.691
(applause)
00:56:27.741 --> 00:56:29.340
Penny Smeltzer,
00:56:30.445 --> 00:56:31.765
Westwood High School,
00:56:32.045 --> 00:56:34.054
Round Rock Independent School District,
00:56:34.587 --> 00:56:35.530
Austin, Texas.
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.156
For being named state finalist
00:56:39.393 --> 00:56:42.739
in Mathematics category in the 2015 Presidential Awards
00:56:44.201 --> 00:56:46.405
be it further resolved that the State Board of Education
00:56:46.405 --> 00:56:48.871
does hereby extend its congratulations
00:56:48.931 --> 00:56:50.951
to Carol Brown,
00:56:51.021 --> 00:56:52.021
Saint Mary's Hall,
00:56:52.021 --> 00:56:53.365
San Antonio, Texas.
00:56:54.902 --> 00:56:55.924
Sherry Cole,
00:56:56.167 --> 00:56:57.969
Seabrook Intermediate School,
00:56:58.390 --> 00:57:00.326
Clear Creek Independent School District,
00:57:00.533 --> 00:57:01.584
Seabrook, Texas.
00:57:03.939 --> 00:57:04.851
Cara Johnson,
00:57:05.537 --> 00:57:06.641
Allen High School,
00:57:06.885 --> 00:57:08.509
Allen Independent School District,
00:57:08.751 --> 00:57:09.597
Allen, Texas.
00:57:11.421 --> 00:57:12.521
Mark Massage,
00:57:13.194 --> 00:57:14.769
Westlake High School,
00:57:15.371 --> 00:57:16.885
Ennis Independent School District,
00:57:17.065 --> 00:57:18.109
Austin, Texas.
00:57:20.936 --> 00:57:22.089
Paula Shay-Starkes.
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:23.988
Phillis Wheatley High School,
00:57:23.988 --> 00:57:25.488
Houston Independent School district,
00:57:25.656 --> 00:57:26.733
Houston, Texas
00:57:27.120 --> 00:57:30.172
for being named the state finalist in the science category
00:57:30.608 --> 00:57:32.801
for the 2015 Presidential Awards.
00:57:33.508 --> 00:57:36.626
Be it further resolved that this resolution
00:57:37.261 --> 00:57:39.256
be presented to the aforementioned teachers
00:57:39.682 --> 00:57:41.055
for being identified as state
00:57:41.055 --> 00:57:44.299
and national finalist for the 2015 Presidential Awards
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.093
for Excellence in Mathematics
00:57:46.228 --> 00:57:47.923
and Science Teaching Programs
00:57:48.420 --> 00:57:51.152
and that a copy be included in the permanent records
00:57:51.354 --> 00:57:52.735
of the State Board of Education.
00:57:53.249 --> 00:57:58.249
Witness our signatures this 29th day of January 2016
00:57:58.428 --> 00:58:00.018
in Austin, Texas.
00:58:00.994 --> 00:58:02.650
Donna Bahorich, chair,
00:58:02.799 --> 00:58:05.054
Ruben Cortez Junior, Secretary.
00:58:05.568 --> 00:58:07.007
(applause)
00:58:07.007 --> 00:58:08.332
Congratulations.
00:58:08.789 --> 00:58:12.969
(applause)
00:58:30.740 --> 00:58:31.933
Madam Chair,
00:58:32.384 --> 00:58:35.430
I'd like to move that we adopt the resolution as presented.
00:58:49.394 --> 00:58:52.454
(applause)
00:58:56.924 --> 00:58:58.570
Did everybody get photographs already?
00:58:59.977 --> 00:59:02.137
I'm going to pass the mic over to Mr. Maynard.
00:59:02.526 --> 00:59:06.691
who will be presenting our CTE month resolution.
00:59:13.411 --> 00:59:14.344
Madam Chair,
00:59:14.344 --> 00:59:19.228
I'm going to defer to Ms. Kendall Stone,
00:59:19.539 --> 00:59:22.292
the state FCCLA president from Silsbee, Texas
00:59:22.408 --> 00:59:23.702
to present this resolution.
00:59:25.465 --> 00:59:26.781
Thank you, Mr. Maynard.
00:59:27.721 --> 00:59:31.168
Whereas February 1st through 29th 2016
00:59:31.385 --> 00:59:32.343
has been designated
00:59:32.443 --> 00:59:34.785
National Career and Technical Education month
00:59:35.378 --> 00:59:40.132
and whereas more than 1.2 million Texas secondary students
00:59:40.318 --> 00:59:42.785
are enrolled in one or more career and technical education
00:59:43.336 --> 00:59:47.291
CTE courses in 1,219 school districts
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:49.056
and charter schools throughout the state.
00:59:50.097 --> 00:59:51.688
Whereas career and technical
00:59:51.706 --> 00:59:54.628
education offers students the opportunity to gain academic,
00:59:54.982 --> 00:59:55.964
technical
00:59:56.299 --> 00:59:57.841
and employee ability skills necessary
00:59:57.841 --> 00:59:59.400
for true career readiness.
01:00:00.266 --> 01:00:01.631
Whereas students in career
01:00:01.631 --> 01:00:03.763
and technical education programs participate
01:00:03.763 --> 01:00:05.732
in authentic, meaningful experiences
01:00:05.972 --> 01:00:08.027
which improve the quality of their education
01:00:08.449 --> 01:00:10.867
by offering meaningful opportunities to apply
01:00:10.867 --> 01:00:11.950
academic knowledge
01:00:11.961 --> 01:00:13.702
and skills from across the curriculum.
01:00:14.274 --> 01:00:16.107
Whereas career and technical
01:00:16.107 --> 01:00:17.455
education is a vital
01:00:17.455 --> 01:00:19.981
and integral part of the foundation high school program
01:00:20.304 --> 01:00:22.948
offering students pathways to earn recognized endorsements,
01:00:23.193 --> 01:00:24.606
performance acknowledgements
01:00:24.747 --> 01:00:27.245
and industry-validated credentials.
01:00:28.745 --> 01:00:30.635
Whereas the state's nine career and technical
01:00:30.635 --> 01:00:33.242
educational student organizations BPA,
01:00:33.524 --> 01:00:34.281
DECA,
01:00:34.465 --> 01:00:36.192
Educators Rising or TAFE,
01:00:36.326 --> 01:00:37.563
FBLA,
01:00:37.563 --> 01:00:38.742
FCCLA,
01:00:39.110 --> 01:00:39.881
FFA,
01:00:39.972 --> 01:00:40.685
HOSA,
01:00:40.775 --> 01:00:41.688
Skills USA
01:00:41.741 --> 01:00:42.542
and TSA
01:00:42.798 --> 01:00:44.027
instills in their members the values,
01:00:44.222 --> 01:00:44.794
knowledge,
01:00:44.794 --> 01:00:48.274
and skills to be patriotic citizens prepared to fully engage
01:00:48.378 --> 01:00:50.077
as effective leaders in the formidable
01:00:50.077 --> 01:00:51.816
and noble task of self government
01:00:51.925 --> 01:00:53.518
and our constitutional republic.
01:00:54.172 --> 01:00:56.408
Whereas career and technical education
01:00:56.616 --> 01:00:59.219
provides students with career exploration opportunities
01:00:59.722 --> 01:01:01.442
early on in their educational experience
01:01:02.266 --> 01:01:03.772
which enables them to make informed
01:01:03.772 --> 01:01:06.052
and beneficial decisions about their academic coursework
01:01:06.250 --> 01:01:08.827
as well as pursuit of established programs of study
01:01:08.827 --> 01:01:09.840
and career pathways.
01:01:11.393 --> 01:01:13.119
Whereas leaders from business
01:01:13.142 --> 01:01:16.055
and industry nationwide report increasing challenges
01:01:16.189 --> 01:01:17.451
related to the skills gap
01:01:17.451 --> 01:01:20.133
and connecting qualified professionals with available
01:01:20.133 --> 01:01:23.010
careers in critical ingrown CTE-related fields.
01:01:23.595 --> 01:01:26.364
Whereas career and technical education
01:01:26.570 --> 01:01:29.062
prepare students for fulfilling careers by offering
01:01:29.062 --> 01:01:31.131
integrated programs of study that link secondary
01:01:31.131 --> 01:01:32.808
and postsecondary education
01:01:33.186 --> 01:01:35.824
and significantly contributes to college readiness
01:01:36.048 --> 01:01:40.048
and whereas insuring that employers have access to qualified
01:01:40.198 --> 01:01:42.697
workforce is a crucial step in insuring productivity
01:01:42.854 --> 01:01:43.913
among the business and
01:01:43.913 --> 01:01:45.923
industry communities as well as continued
01:01:45.932 --> 01:01:47.197
American economic growth
01:01:47.197 --> 01:01:48.537
and global competitiveness.
01:01:49.265 --> 01:01:50.184
Now, therefore,
01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:55.738
be it resolved that the State Board of Education,
01:01:56.031 --> 01:01:58.619
which has been designated by the Texas Legislature
01:01:58.619 --> 01:02:00.952
as the State Board for Career and Technical Education,
01:02:01.310 --> 01:02:04.432
does hereby proclaim February 1-29, 2016,
01:02:05.060 --> 01:02:06.638
as Career and Technical Education
01:02:06.638 --> 01:02:07.548
Month in Texas.
01:02:07.816 --> 01:02:10.121
Does hereby urge all Texans to become familiar
01:02:10.369 --> 01:02:13.295
with outstanding curriculum delivered by exceptional
01:02:13.393 --> 01:02:15.220
career and technical education teachers
01:02:15.220 --> 01:02:16.935
in communities across the state.
01:02:17.213 --> 01:02:18.558
Support and participate
01:02:18.596 --> 01:02:20.491
in these programs to enhance their individual skills
01:02:20.751 --> 01:02:21.790
and productivity.
01:02:22.844 --> 01:02:23.865
Thank you, Ms. Stone.
01:02:24.084 --> 01:02:25.947
Head of Chair, I move adoption.
01:02:27.768 --> 01:02:28.971
[Voiceover All those in favor say I.
01:02:29.188 --> 01:02:29.932
I.
01:02:30.571 --> 01:02:31.550
Congratulations,
01:02:31.550 --> 01:02:32.509
thank you so much.
01:02:32.814 --> 01:02:33.488
We really appreciate it.
01:02:33.488 --> 01:02:35.133
I would like just one by one,
01:02:36.263 --> 01:02:37.136
Mr. Maynard,
01:02:37.270 --> 01:02:39.321
would you mention the name and the organization
01:02:39.383 --> 01:02:41.001
then have each group stand up.
01:02:48.874 --> 01:02:50.357
That's FCCLA.
01:02:53.356 --> 01:02:54.275
Wonderful, thank you.
01:02:54.522 --> 01:02:56.253
Please say the name of the organization,
01:02:56.253 --> 01:02:56.931
that woud be great.
01:02:56.931 --> 01:02:57.970
(applause)
01:02:58.105 --> 01:03:00.105
You guys are distinctive in your red jackets.
01:03:00.453 --> 01:03:01.603
We really appreciate it.
01:03:09.433 --> 01:03:12.082
(applause)
01:03:18.652 --> 01:03:21.605
(applause)
01:03:26.522 --> 01:03:29.531
(applause)
01:03:31.515 --> 01:03:32.864
Did I get everyone?
01:03:35.615 --> 01:03:36.476
Terrific.
01:03:37.426 --> 01:03:38.288
Again, students,
01:03:38.288 --> 01:03:39.317
we so appreciate
01:03:39.329 --> 01:03:41.341
we had a wonderful dinner with you guys last night.
01:03:42.706 --> 01:03:44.839
Just a terrific time together
01:03:45.084 --> 01:03:48.747
and so impressive as we said last night.
01:03:49.373 --> 01:03:52.566
We were all talking about the future's in good hands
01:03:52.631 --> 01:03:55.080
with students like you coming through our system.
01:03:55.117 --> 01:03:56.223
We're very proud of each
01:03:56.223 --> 01:03:57.146
and everyone of you.
01:03:57.251 --> 01:03:59.507
Thank you so much for sharing an evening with us
01:04:00.180 --> 01:04:02.051
and for coming here this morning.
01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:04.753
to accept our congratulations
01:04:04.802 --> 01:04:06.225
and resolutions.
01:04:06.658 --> 01:04:08.212
Yes, Mr. Mercer.
01:04:08.522 --> 01:04:10.103
I just want to thank Mr. Maynard.
01:04:10.103 --> 01:04:11.248
This is the second year.
01:04:11.248 --> 01:04:15.364
When I speak throughout Texas I get a lot of concerns
01:04:15.364 --> 01:04:17.108
about the future of America
01:04:17.108 --> 01:04:18.046
and the future of Texas.
01:04:18.202 --> 01:04:20.669
The last two years with y'all at our table,
01:04:20.952 --> 01:04:22.772
I have no fear whatsoever.
01:04:22.808 --> 01:04:24.602
We have a great future thanks to y'all.
01:04:24.621 --> 01:04:25.369
God bless you.
01:04:25.369 --> 01:04:25.935
Thank you.
01:04:26.506 --> 01:04:28.356
(applause)
01:04:37.656 --> 01:04:38.849
Moving on with the agenda,
01:04:39.192 --> 01:04:39.829
members,
01:04:39.899 --> 01:04:43.335
no one signed up for public testimony today
01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:45.897
so we don't have anyone registered to speak.
01:04:47.887 --> 01:04:50.764
It has been requested that the remarks of the superintendent
01:04:50.764 --> 01:04:52.635
and teachers of the years be attached to the minutes
01:04:52.635 --> 01:04:53.452
of the meeting.
01:04:53.452 --> 01:04:54.541
Is there any objection to that?
01:04:55.908 --> 01:04:57.521
Hearing none, so ordered.
01:05:01.889 --> 01:05:02.533
Members,
01:05:02.837 --> 01:05:03.708
we're going to go ahead
01:05:03.708 --> 01:05:05.702
and move into the approval of the consent agenda.
01:05:06.108 --> 01:05:09.857
Please turn to IX in your agenda books
01:05:09.857 --> 01:05:12.985
which lists the items on the consent agenda
01:05:13.091 --> 01:05:14.477
there were no additional items.
01:05:15.118 --> 01:05:16.192
I'm gonna just read these,
01:05:16.985 --> 01:05:19.698
going through again it's Roman Numeral nine.
01:05:20.392 --> 01:05:21.743
Proposed Amendment Number One,
01:05:21.985 --> 01:05:24.765
proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74
01:05:24.951 --> 01:05:27.612
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter A: Required Curriculum,
01:05:28.151 --> 01:05:32.178
74.5 - Academic Achievement Record Transcript
01:05:32.754 --> 01:05:34.333
and High School Diploma.
01:05:35.462 --> 01:05:36.265
Number Two,
01:05:36.396 --> 01:05:38.572
Proposed new 19 TAC
01:05:38.682 --> 01:05:39.652
Chapter 126
01:05:40.069 --> 01:05:40.780
Texas Essential Knowledge
01:05:40.780 --> 01:05:41.457
and Skills
01:05:41.457 --> 01:05:43.240
for Technology Applications, Subchapter D
01:05:43.982 --> 01:05:46.392
Other Technology Applications Courses,
01:05:47.004 --> 01:05:52.004
126.65: Advanced Placement Computer Science Principles,
01:05:52.578 --> 01:05:54.029
adopted 2016.
01:05:54.713 --> 01:05:55.358
Number Three,
01:05:55.358 --> 01:05:57.447
Recommendations Regarding Renewal of Instructional
01:05:57.447 --> 01:05:58.504
Materials Contracts.
01:05:59.388 --> 01:06:00.563
Number Four,
01:06:02.319 --> 01:06:03.753
Ratifications of the Purchases
01:06:03.753 --> 01:06:06.016
and Sales of the Investment Portfolio of the Permanent
01:06:06.016 --> 01:06:06.725
School Fund
01:06:06.725 --> 01:06:09.301
for the months of October and November 2015.
01:06:09.453 --> 01:06:13.010
There were no real estate items considered
01:06:13.261 --> 01:06:14.697
so, there's nothing on that agenda,
01:06:14.818 --> 01:06:16.761
and Ms. Miller you don't need to recuse yourself.
01:06:16.761 --> 01:06:17.881
This is for Number Five.
01:06:18.318 --> 01:06:18.966
Number Six,
01:06:19.249 --> 01:06:21.609
Decision on Absolute Return Investments.
01:06:22.282 --> 01:06:23.234
Number Seven,
01:06:23.415 --> 01:06:25.687
Recommendation for Appointments to the Boys Ranch
01:06:26.142 --> 01:06:27.108
Independent School District
01:06:27.108 --> 01:06:28.339
Board of Trustees.
01:06:29.957 --> 01:06:30.899
Number Eight,
01:06:31.097 --> 01:06:34.801
Recommendation for Appointments to the Randolph Field
01:06:34.911 --> 01:06:38.931
Independent School District Board of Trustees.
01:06:40.189 --> 01:06:42.808
Are members clear as to what we'll be approving of
01:06:42.808 --> 01:06:43.884
in the consent agenda?
01:06:45.144 --> 01:06:46.484
If there's no objection,
01:06:47.353 --> 01:06:48.687
the consent agenda is approved.
01:06:51.643 --> 01:06:52.381
Alright members,
01:06:52.381 --> 01:06:55.999
I'm going to turn this over to Mr. Ratliff.
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:57.763
to go through our minutes.
01:06:58.527 --> 01:06:59.160
Ok, members,
01:06:59.160 --> 01:07:01.003
you have two handouts that say
01:07:01.385 --> 01:07:03.490
Court of the State Board of Education Committee
01:07:03.490 --> 01:07:04.456
of the Full Board.
01:07:05.142 --> 01:07:06.329
The one we'll be working from is
01:07:06.329 --> 01:07:10.548
the one at the bottom that says 127 2016.
01:07:10.809 --> 01:07:13.078
The other one is just the public testimony day.
01:07:14.632 --> 01:07:16.503
The first item for consideration
01:07:17.016 --> 01:07:18.694
on behalf of the Committee the Full Board,
01:07:19.166 --> 01:07:21.241
I move that the State Board of Education adopt the review
01:07:21.313 --> 01:07:24.451
of 19 TAC Chapter 66:
01:07:24.658 --> 01:07:25.098
State Adoption
01:07:25.098 --> 01:07:26.687
and Distribution of Instructional Materials.
01:07:26.734 --> 01:07:28.199
Subchapter A: General Provisions,
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.368
Subchapter B: State Adoption of Instructional Materials
01:07:30.388 --> 01:07:32.720
and Subchapter C: Local Operations.
01:07:36.052 --> 01:07:37.330
Are you ready for the question?
01:07:37.637 --> 01:07:38.911
All those in favor say I.
01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:39.973
I.
01:07:39.973 --> 01:07:40.824
Those opposed say no.
01:07:41.532 --> 01:07:42.554
I's have it.
01:07:43.252 --> 01:07:46.755
The review of 19 TAC Chapter 66: State Adoption
01:07:46.842 --> 01:07:48.920
Distribution of Instructional Materials.
01:07:48.952 --> 01:07:50.396
Subchapter A: General Provisions,
01:07:50.402 --> 01:07:53.297
Subchapter B state adoption of instructional materials
01:07:53.305 --> 01:07:55.653
and Subchapter C: Local Adoptions
01:07:56.216 --> 01:07:57.595
Operations is adopted.
01:07:58.649 --> 01:07:59.940
Item Number Four.
01:08:00.818 --> 01:08:01.480
Actually,
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.917
we're going to turn it over to page two.
01:08:04.145 --> 01:08:05.008
Sorry you're right,
01:08:05.008 --> 01:08:05.878
Agenda Item Number Four.
01:08:05.878 --> 01:08:06.795
I'm sorry,
01:08:06.795 --> 01:08:07.809
Agenda Item Number Four.
01:08:08.253 --> 01:08:09.868
It's on the top of page two in your minutes.
01:08:10.423 --> 01:08:11.763
On behalf of the Committee the Full Board,
01:08:11.763 --> 01:08:13.153
I move that the State Board of Education
01:08:13.153 --> 01:08:15.092
by affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members
01:08:15.092 --> 01:08:16.594
of the board approve for second reading
01:08:16.594 --> 01:08:17.466
and final adoption
01:08:17.512 --> 01:08:19.248
proposed revisions 19 TAC Chapter 66:
01:08:20.352 --> 01:08:20.958
State Adoption
01:08:20.958 --> 01:08:23.009
and Distribution of Instructional Materials, Subchapter A:
01:08:23.053 --> 01:08:23.839
General Provisions.
01:08:23.927 --> 01:08:25.024
Subchapter B: State Adoption
01:08:25.032 --> 01:08:25.975
and Instructional Materials.
01:08:25.975 --> 01:08:27.686
Subchapter C: Local Operations
01:08:27.780 --> 01:08:29.886
with an effective date of 20 days after filing
01:08:29.993 --> 01:08:31.538
as adopted with the Texas Register.
01:08:32.037 --> 01:08:32.615
Madam Chair.
01:08:32.615 --> 01:08:34.140
Yes, Ms. Martinez.
01:08:34.391 --> 01:08:36.398
Before you take the final vote,
01:08:36.398 --> 01:08:40.774
staff does have one final amendment for your consideration.
01:08:41.776 --> 01:08:43.693
This is something that we discovered recently
01:08:44.040 --> 01:08:47.857
that you might want to consider with respect to
01:08:48.316 --> 01:08:50.813
66.28
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and you can find that in your agenda book.
01:08:56.727 --> 01:08:57.899
What page is that?
01:08:58.208 --> 01:08:59.270
I'm getting that. I apologize.
01:08:59.651 --> 01:09:04.169
66.28 is on Roman Numeral 1-50.
01:09:15.945 --> 01:09:18.566
This language would clarify
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what the expectations are to ensure that
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all instructional materials are accessible
01:09:24.066 --> 01:09:26.217
for students with disabilities.
01:09:27.131 --> 01:09:30.214
This is specific to electronic instructional materials
01:09:30.571 --> 01:09:34.885
and would indicate that, while further detail
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would be included in each proclamation as appropriate,
01:09:39.519 --> 01:09:40.884
This includes in your rule
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the expectation that that will be addressed.
01:09:46.178 --> 01:09:47.775
Yes, Mr. Ratliff.
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Madam Chair,
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I'm going to make the motion of the language in red
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to amend 66.28A, Section 2,
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to insert the words,
01:10:00.969 --> 01:10:03.637
"the report must be prepared by an independent third party
01:10:03.740 --> 01:10:06.057
and be based on an audit testing the accessibility
01:10:06.095 --> 01:10:07.934
of a random sampling of pages as outlined
01:10:07.934 --> 01:10:08.906
in each proclamation.
01:10:09.343 --> 01:10:11.579
The number of pages to be audited to meet the requirements
01:10:11.579 --> 01:10:13.835
in the proclamation shall be determined by the publisher."
01:10:14.563 --> 01:10:16.050
Insert a new Section 3
01:10:16.050 --> 01:10:16.960
that would read,
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.215
"a publisher who provides access to materials to students
01:10:19.215 --> 01:10:20.109
with disabilities
01:10:20.140 --> 01:10:21.942
through an alternate format
01:10:21.983 --> 01:10:24.593
shall include a link to that material on the entrance page
01:10:24.696 --> 01:10:25.583
of main product."
01:10:26.504 --> 01:10:28.852
I'd like to move the previous question
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on all outstanding motions on this item.
01:10:36.461 --> 01:10:37.226
Oh yeah,
01:10:37.226 --> 01:10:38.803
the location in the agenda.
01:10:39.160 --> 01:10:39.745
Mrs. Miller,
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in your agenda book, it's Roman Numeral 1-50
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66.28A.
01:10:50.209 --> 01:10:52.244
This would add language to Number Two,
01:10:53.157 --> 01:10:55.381
would add a new Number Three
01:10:55.443 --> 01:10:57.493
and renumber accordingly.
01:11:06.501 --> 01:11:07.615
Second on the previous question.
01:11:21.304 --> 01:11:22.950
It's been moved and seconded to order
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the previous question
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on all pending items.
01:11:29.619 --> 01:11:30.719
There's a vote
01:11:31.073 --> 01:11:32.798
on moving forward to go ahead
01:11:32.993 --> 01:11:34.584
and not only add this amendment
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:36.061
but to approve
01:11:36.223 --> 01:11:40.992
the rules as we worked on them the other day
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when we sent them through.
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If that's adopted than we're finished
01:11:51.384 --> 01:11:53.147
with changes to the rules
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and this Chapter 66 will be adopted.
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All those in favor.
01:12:00.135 --> 01:12:00.833
Right, so
01:12:00.833 --> 01:12:04.134
if you vote in favor of this, then there's no discussion.
01:12:06.738 --> 01:12:09.202
Is it a point of order?
01:12:10.433 --> 01:12:11.686
It's not a debatable motion.
01:12:41.071 --> 01:12:43.412
Kurt's telling me that you can ask that after
01:12:43.572 --> 01:12:45.493
we vote on the previous question.
01:12:52.974 --> 01:12:54.082
Correct.
01:13:00.233 --> 01:13:01.551
Let him explain.
01:13:01.816 --> 01:13:03.322
The previous question means
01:13:03.322 --> 01:13:04.691
we're going to vote now.
01:13:04.799 --> 01:13:05.498
No debate,
01:13:05.498 --> 01:13:08.474
no further motions to amend
01:13:08.537 --> 01:13:09.594
or anything like that.
01:13:10.197 --> 01:13:12.068
The pending question is to do that.
01:13:13.702 --> 01:13:16.501
If members have questions about that procedure,
01:13:16.793 --> 01:13:17.925
they can ask a question.
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:18.854
However, I think
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a question of information might be allowed
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:24.443
as long as it doesn't go into debate.
01:13:25.970 --> 01:13:27.914
The chair could possibly allow that after we vote
01:13:27.914 --> 01:13:28.956
on the previous question.
01:13:30.072 --> 01:13:33.235
So you had a question for Monica to answer?
01:13:35.058 --> 01:13:38.664
So it's not a debate of what's being presented.
01:13:45.381 --> 01:13:46.246
It's not debatable,
01:13:46.383 --> 01:13:48.136
we have to take care of the vote first, right?
01:13:48.937 --> 01:13:51.439
Procedurally, we have to take care of the vote first.
01:13:52.731 --> 01:13:54.105
All those in favor say, I.
01:13:54.105 --> 01:13:55.097
I.
01:13:55.668 --> 01:13:57.087
All those opposed say nay.
01:13:57.674 --> 01:13:59.922
I think we have to have hands up.
01:14:00.738 --> 01:14:02.427
We have to have our hands up for this vote.
01:14:05.811 --> 01:14:07.135
(laughter)
01:14:07.146 --> 01:14:07.956
Sorry.
01:14:10.503 --> 01:14:12.059
Have the two-thirds, ok.
01:14:14.646 --> 01:14:15.480
Members, in order
01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:18.318
to make this the early effective date requires a vote
01:14:18.318 --> 01:14:20.374
of the two-thirds of the members.
01:14:39.584 --> 01:14:42.291
I think we better hold up our hands to be sure that we had
01:14:42.291 --> 01:14:43.187
two-thirds vote
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:44.928
to move the previous question
01:14:50.381 --> 01:14:51.558
and vote right away.
01:14:51.558 --> 01:14:53.334
To shut off previous question
01:14:53.469 --> 01:14:54.597
and vote right away.
01:14:55.232 --> 01:14:57.635
Let's hold up our hands just to be sure we've got the
01:14:57.970 --> 01:14:58.908
two-thirds needed.
01:14:59.858 --> 01:15:02.442
All those in favor of moving the previous question,
01:15:03.519 --> 01:15:04.279
raise your hand.
01:15:18.369 --> 01:15:19.826
All those opposed, raise your hand.
01:15:24.262 --> 01:15:24.825
Ok, so
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that's two-thirds.
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Now, ask your question
01:15:29.996 --> 01:15:32.822
for clarification.
01:15:34.038 --> 01:15:35.098
The language proposed
01:15:35.098 --> 01:15:36.861
obviously I was back there, I heard.
01:15:36.981 --> 01:15:40.163
I'm glad that you guys want to fix this, right?
01:15:40.692 --> 01:15:41.915
What's your question?
01:15:41.962 --> 01:15:43.174
because you can't debate.
01:15:43.174 --> 01:15:43.885
I don't want to debate it.
01:15:43.885 --> 01:15:45.167
It's leading up to the question
01:15:45.294 --> 01:15:47.695
but the language on here says,
01:15:48.433 --> 01:15:51.739
"the number of pages to be audited must meet the requirements
01:15:51.853 --> 01:15:54.296
in the proclamation
01:15:54.529 --> 01:15:56.001
and shall be determined by the publisher."
01:15:56.126 --> 01:15:59.053
Why are we catering to the publisher, still?
01:15:59.113 --> 01:16:03.179
Wouldn't that be something that would meet the requirements
01:16:03.179 --> 01:16:07.423
of the agency so we won't have the problem that we were
01:16:07.423 --> 01:16:08.906
exposed to on Wednesday.
01:16:09.552 --> 01:16:10.363
Mr. Cortez,
01:16:10.363 --> 01:16:13.275
the idea here is that there would be an audit
01:16:13.434 --> 01:16:15.658
of a random sampling of pages.
01:16:16.044 --> 01:16:20.054
Because the number of pages is going to vary widely,
01:16:20.687 --> 01:16:25.687
we believe we will be able to make appropriate determination
01:16:25.771 --> 01:16:27.637
with certain types of pages.
01:16:27.831 --> 01:16:29.506
We would bring language back to you
01:16:29.599 --> 01:16:32.878
and the proclamation that would outline the types of pages.
01:16:33.299 --> 01:16:38.299
If a publisher chooses to provide many more
01:16:38.523 --> 01:16:41.504
of those different varieties than that
01:16:41.504 --> 01:16:42.886
would be perfectly acceptable.
01:16:43.432 --> 01:16:47.578
We would be able to indicate what the minimum amount would
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be in order for us to make the appropriate determination.
01:16:50.951 --> 01:16:52.912
We set the parameters is what you're saying.
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:56.101
The board will set the parameters in the proclamation.
01:16:56.896 --> 01:16:59.474
This item becomes final because it's second reading?
01:17:00.448 --> 01:17:03.775
This language would end all that
01:17:04.635 --> 01:17:06.536
and we are basically at the mercy of whatever
01:17:06.536 --> 01:17:08.374
comes in that random sampling.
01:17:09.210 --> 01:17:11.675
You all won't have an opportunity beyond that.
01:17:12.135 --> 01:17:12.964
No that's not correct.
01:17:12.964 --> 01:17:13.826
After that random sampling.
01:17:13.826 --> 01:17:15.084
I just want to know the process.
01:17:16.041 --> 01:17:19.041
This rule is indicating is that you're going
01:17:19.041 --> 01:17:22.675
to expect a random audit of all the materials
01:17:22.896 --> 01:17:25.063
and as we get to each proclamation,
01:17:25.262 --> 01:17:27.849
you're going to set the parameters at that time.
01:17:28.120 --> 01:17:30.404
Every proclamation is going to be different
01:17:31.415 --> 01:17:34.683
we didn't want to be so specific in the rule that
01:17:34.683 --> 01:17:37.827
you then don't have the opportunity to set those parameters
01:17:37.973 --> 01:17:39.135
with each proclamation.
01:17:39.334 --> 01:17:41.435
That will be the next step in this process.
01:17:42.595 --> 01:17:43.721
That would happen when?
01:17:44.944 --> 01:17:47.856
When you vote to approve each proclamation.
01:17:51.286 --> 01:17:52.424
So we'll have the opportunity
01:17:52.424 --> 01:17:56.396
at the proclamation to set our parameters however we would
01:17:56.396 --> 01:17:57.620
like to set the parameters.
01:17:57.620 --> 01:17:58.360
Yes, ma'am.
01:17:59.024 --> 01:18:00.235
Yes, make sure
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there's a question Mr. Ratliff.
01:18:03.656 --> 01:18:05.719
Monica, the reason
01:18:05.719 --> 01:18:07.015
you're leaving it flexible,
01:18:07.015 --> 01:18:08.402
as I understand it,
01:18:08.685 --> 01:18:11.079
staff says the kind of samples we would need
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.299
will vary by subject so you my want charts for one type,
01:18:14.299 --> 01:18:16.448
language for another type, etc.
01:18:16.642 --> 01:18:18.868
So it gives y'all the ability to have those samples
01:18:18.868 --> 01:18:21.246
relavent to the content being looked at.
01:18:21.307 --> 01:18:22.143
That's correct.
01:18:22.237 --> 01:18:22.976
Thank you.
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Members the previous question has been ordered
01:18:25.985 --> 01:18:28.424
and we will now vote on the amendment
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and this is a majority vote.
01:18:30.569 --> 01:18:35.569
All those in favor of the amendment to chapter 66.28A
01:18:36.282 --> 01:18:41.282
to include, at the end of 66.28A 2, the report must be
01:18:43.542 --> 01:18:44.733
prepared by an independent third party
01:18:44.984 --> 01:18:47.163
and be based on an audit testing the accessibility
01:18:47.379 --> 01:18:49.190
of a random sample of pages as outlined
01:18:49.190 --> 01:18:52.207
in each proclamation number of pages to be audited
01:18:52.207 --> 01:18:55.245
to meet the requirements in the proclamation shall be
01:18:55.245 --> 01:18:56.842
determined by the publisher.
01:18:57.215 --> 01:19:00.101
Number Three, a publisher who provides access to materials
01:19:00.101 --> 01:19:03.065
to students with disabilities through an alternate format
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.517
shall include a link to that material on the entrance page
01:19:06.973 --> 01:19:08.472
of the main product.
01:19:08.786 --> 01:19:10.147
All those in favor say I.
01:19:10.621 --> 01:19:11.396
I.
01:19:11.844 --> 01:19:13.274
All those opposed, nay.
01:19:14.168 --> 01:19:14.948
I's have it.
01:19:16.021 --> 01:19:19.067
Members, we're taking a vote on the main motion as amended.
01:19:20.730 --> 01:19:24.755
This is where the motion before us is to
01:19:24.755 --> 01:19:26.017
approve for second reading
01:19:26.017 --> 01:19:26.943
and final adoption.
01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:30.782
Proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 66: State Adoption
01:19:30.782 --> 01:19:33.170
and Distribution of Instructional Material,
01:19:33.170 --> 01:19:34.810
Subchapter A: General Provisions
01:19:34.868 --> 01:19:36.043
and Subchapter B:
01:19:36.208 --> 01:19:38.228
State Adoption of Instructional Materials
01:19:38.275 --> 01:19:40.194
and Subchapter C: Local Operations
01:19:40.454 --> 01:19:43.044
with an effective date of 20 days after filing
01:19:43.217 --> 01:19:47.500
as adopted with the Texas register, if there is a two-thirds
01:19:47.618 --> 01:19:49.936
vote in the affirmative.
01:19:52.015 --> 01:19:55.119
As amended, because we did just amend it.
01:19:56.021 --> 01:19:58.091
Are you ready for the question?
01:19:59.975 --> 01:20:01.226
No debate on this.
01:20:01.453 --> 01:20:02.748
Is there a question that you had?
01:20:03.448 --> 01:20:05.037
I'm pretty sure I'm caught up
01:20:05.037 --> 01:20:06.719
with the amendments that have been made,
01:20:06.719 --> 01:20:09.842
but do we have a clean version in front of us?
01:20:10.875 --> 01:20:13.593
That's what's in the notes that you got, right?
01:20:13.914 --> 01:20:14.554
In the minutes.
01:20:14.977 --> 01:20:18.298
We don't have time to provide a clean version
01:20:18.694 --> 01:20:19.993
from meeting to meeting.
01:20:20.382 --> 01:20:22.060
You've got the changes in your minutes.
01:20:22.717 --> 01:20:23.827
The changes are in the minutes.
01:20:23.827 --> 01:20:24.988
Right.
01:20:25.233 --> 01:20:26.632
They'll be getting us a clean version.
01:20:26.849 --> 01:20:27.745
Oaky, no problem.
01:20:27.987 --> 01:20:28.738
Thank you.
01:20:34.744 --> 01:20:36.087
All those in favor raise your hand.
01:20:41.818 --> 01:20:44.683
All those opposed raise your hand.
01:20:45.345 --> 01:20:46.249
The I's have it.
01:20:47.025 --> 01:20:47.765
Yes, because
01:20:47.765 --> 01:20:49.019
we had over two-thirds,
01:20:49.430 --> 01:20:53.391
we will be adopting effective day 20 days after filing
01:20:53.738 --> 01:20:55.103
as adopted with the Texas register.
01:20:55.665 --> 01:20:56.429
Thank you, members.
01:20:57.537 --> 01:20:58.385
Now members,
01:20:58.789 --> 01:21:00.052
if there's no objection,
01:21:00.123 --> 01:21:02.143
I'm going to move Item Number Eight forward
01:21:02.290 --> 01:21:04.509
because one of our members has to leave early.
01:21:05.234 --> 01:21:07.620
I'd like to move item number eight forward.
01:21:08.892 --> 01:21:09.924
Is there any objection?
01:21:10.353 --> 01:21:10.826
Madame Chair,
01:21:10.826 --> 01:21:13.092
I've failed to state one part of the last motion
01:21:13.092 --> 01:21:15.436
that we also instruct staff to file the resolution
01:21:15.486 --> 01:21:19.824
issued by the State Board of Education in the miscellaneous
01:21:19.863 --> 01:21:21.283
section of the Texas Register.
01:21:21.838 --> 01:21:23.571
Oh, that's right, yes.
01:21:25.419 --> 01:21:27.002
That was part of the committee recommendation,
01:21:27.014 --> 01:21:28.304
do we need to talk about that again?
01:21:29.218 --> 01:21:30.587
I didn't know it needed to be part of the motion.
01:21:32.859 --> 01:21:34.626
The board does have to be approve it, correct?
01:21:37.070 --> 01:21:38.423
I don't think there was an objection on Wednesday.
01:21:39.017 --> 01:21:40.813
Is there any objection to so moving?
01:21:41.571 --> 01:21:43.515
Ok, so ordered.
01:21:44.075 --> 01:21:45.673
Item number eight on your agenda.
01:21:45.767 --> 01:21:47.641
If you'll skip over to that, Mr. Ratliff.
01:21:48.712 --> 01:21:50.013
Did you have a question, Ms. Perez?
01:21:50.233 --> 01:21:50.853
No, Madam Chair.
01:21:51.003 --> 01:21:52.287
Prior to starting that item,
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:53.997
I just need to recuse myself.
01:21:53.997 --> 01:21:54.783
Oh, yes.
01:21:54.976 --> 01:21:55.906
Thank you, so noted.
01:21:56.276 --> 01:21:58.582
Ms. Perez is recusing herself from this discussion
01:21:58.896 --> 01:21:59.798
on item number eight.
01:22:00.828 --> 01:22:01.775
It's on your agenda,
01:22:01.912 --> 01:22:04.792
but which item is it on the minutes, Mr. Ratliff?
01:22:12.984 --> 01:22:14.122
I'm going to make sure we get to the right one
01:22:14.133 --> 01:22:14.911
in the minutes.
01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:17.012
[Voiceover] In the Committee of the Full Board Minutes,
01:22:17.012 --> 01:22:18.004
it's on page nine.
01:22:19.064 --> 01:22:19.589
Item Seven.
01:22:19.589 --> 01:22:21.002
Item Seven. Yes, ma'am.
01:22:21.023 --> 01:22:21.685
Thank you.
01:22:21.767 --> 01:22:23.318
Official Agenda Item Number Eight
01:22:23.528 --> 01:22:25.457
on page I-163.
01:22:29.198 --> 01:22:30.817
Got nine different ways to refer to this thing.
01:22:33.022 --> 01:22:35.024
Members, on behalf of the committee of the full board,
01:22:35.024 --> 01:22:37.022
I move that the State Board of Education approve all
01:22:37.022 --> 01:22:40.516
three vendors as test providers for the Texas Certification
01:22:40.521 --> 01:22:41.855
of High School Equivalency.
01:22:53.245 --> 01:22:54.223
There were no amendments.
01:22:56.263 --> 01:22:58.774
The vote will be on the recommendation to approve.
01:23:14.807 --> 01:23:16.318
You're going to talk about afterwards,
01:23:16.481 --> 01:23:18.167
Ms. Martinez has some things to talk about
01:23:18.248 --> 01:23:19.194
next steps.
01:23:20.586 --> 01:23:21.297
Before we vote,
01:23:21.325 --> 01:23:23.239
I was just wanting to make sure members were clear
01:23:23.401 --> 01:23:26.701
on what happens now regardless of the vote taken.
01:23:26.742 --> 01:23:28.175
I'd think it be important to know that
01:23:28.190 --> 01:23:29.740
if, members, you don't mind.
01:23:31.373 --> 01:23:32.242
Yes, Mr. Cortez.
01:23:36.688 --> 01:23:39.014
What we intend to do is place another item
01:23:39.103 --> 01:23:42.877
on your April agenda so that we can discuss next steps.
01:23:44.270 --> 01:23:45.519
What we anticipate,
01:23:45.699 --> 01:23:48.133
and we did mention this with the committee on instruction
01:23:48.133 --> 01:23:51.468
is that there will be a need to amend you chapter 89 rules
01:23:51.918 --> 01:23:56.918
to insure they are consistent with the expectation
01:23:58.015 --> 01:24:00.464
that there will be more than one test available
01:24:00.847 --> 01:24:03.036
in both computer and paper format.
01:24:03.217 --> 01:24:05.278
We'll need to make some adjustments.
01:24:05.383 --> 01:24:09.623
We also anticipate that we are going to need to increase
01:24:09.770 --> 01:24:12.586
the state fee that is a portion of this
01:24:12.789 --> 01:24:16.879
in order to be able to make the appropriate adjustments
01:24:16.973 --> 01:24:21.823
so the agency is prepared to manage this new system.
01:24:21.823 --> 01:24:23.554
For example,
01:24:23.566 --> 01:24:28.229
our data system will have to be reworked
01:24:28.448 --> 01:24:33.448
in order for us to be prepared to address multiple tests.
01:24:35.866 --> 01:24:36.842
In addition to that,
01:24:37.150 --> 01:24:40.263
when you initially set out the RFP,
01:24:40.756 --> 01:24:44.819
that RFP did indicate your intent to have
01:24:45.015 --> 01:24:47.055
an equivalency study done.
01:24:47.355 --> 01:24:50.930
That was something that you ask that the agency complete.
01:24:53.083 --> 01:24:55.295
Upon a final decision,
01:24:55.576 --> 01:24:58.496
we will need to figure out what the timeline will be
01:24:58.496 --> 01:25:00.589
for completing that equating study,
01:25:00.589 --> 01:25:02.289
I guess I used the wrong term earlier,
01:25:02.507 --> 01:25:04.875
that will be something that we need to do.
01:25:04.875 --> 01:25:09.080
We think we're in a position where we'll probably need
01:25:09.080 --> 01:25:12.072
to come back in April with all of the next steps
01:25:12.126 --> 01:25:15.737
and likely need that to be an action item
01:25:15.738 --> 01:25:18.450
so that you can make any additional decisions
01:25:18.673 --> 01:25:21.779
with respect to implementation moving forward.
01:25:22.597 --> 01:25:23.369
Mr. Ratliff.
01:25:24.613 --> 01:25:25.270
Monica, there
01:25:25.270 --> 01:25:29.822
was also some confusion in the board about
01:25:30.034 --> 01:25:32.427
the representation that we had three vendors
01:25:32.668 --> 01:25:34.995
in the alignment to the TEKS.
01:25:36.321 --> 01:25:37.360
After further research,
01:25:37.466 --> 01:25:40.588
one of the vendors used a different scale for alignment
01:25:40.806 --> 01:25:43.110
we didn't convert over to a percentage,
01:25:43.953 --> 01:25:46.680
so it looked like all three vendors were much closer
01:25:47.566 --> 01:25:49.463
with regards to alignment to the TEKS.
01:25:50.751 --> 01:25:53.196
Is there anybody here that can just touch on that?
01:25:55.157 --> 01:25:56.205
We didn't name any names,
01:25:56.445 --> 01:25:58.564
I just want to make sure that members of the board
01:25:58.718 --> 01:26:01.576
and of the public understand that all three vendors
01:26:01.719 --> 01:26:04.355
were closer than what we previously thought in terms
01:26:04.355 --> 01:26:05.459
of alignment to the TEKS,
01:26:05.569 --> 01:26:09.629
because of the conversion of their third party verification.
01:26:10.843 --> 01:26:13.874
Staff didn't actually look at that.
01:26:14.285 --> 01:26:17.017
I know that we did ask someone from research
01:26:17.017 --> 01:26:20.224
and analysis to provide some additional feedback.
01:26:20.967 --> 01:26:24.685
My understanding was that because there were different
01:26:25.270 --> 01:26:27.340
parties who actually did that review,
01:26:28.026 --> 01:26:30.614
that we're comparing apples to oranges
01:26:31.184 --> 01:26:32.863
and we can't really make a comparison
01:26:32.869 --> 01:26:34.615
with the information we have available to us.
01:26:35.338 --> 01:26:36.480
I believe Madam Chair,
01:26:36.830 --> 01:26:39.516
Kurt will probably tell us to do this in the form
01:26:39.516 --> 01:26:40.223
of a motion,
01:26:40.223 --> 01:26:42.446
I think that we may have some discussion
01:26:42.559 --> 01:26:46.309
about a contingency to say we need everybody to use the same
01:26:47.195 --> 01:26:48.163
third-party verifier
01:26:48.352 --> 01:26:49.448
and use the same rubric
01:26:49.448 --> 01:26:51.728
so we truly do have an apples to apples comparison.
01:26:51.873 --> 01:26:54.748
Otherwise even the two vendors that use the same
01:26:54.787 --> 01:26:57.101
third-party verifier used a different rubric.
01:26:57.225 --> 01:27:00.242
So we really don't have a comparison of all three on
01:27:00.242 --> 01:27:02.216
the same scale
01:27:02.556 --> 01:27:05.471
and as it pertains to the five specific courses
01:27:05.719 --> 01:27:07.539
that we specified in the RFP.
01:27:08.379 --> 01:27:09.112
Some went above
01:27:09.112 --> 01:27:09.971
and beyond which is great,
01:27:10.147 --> 01:27:12.493
but we need to understand how they meet the
01:27:12.493 --> 01:27:13.781
specific terms of the RFP.
01:27:14.540 --> 01:27:15.728
After we have some discussion,
01:27:15.728 --> 01:27:18.328
we can offer that contingency if members are so inclined.
01:27:18.632 --> 01:27:22.346
I think what's important for us to do is kind of
01:27:22.497 --> 01:27:23.827
help staff figure out
01:27:23.832 --> 01:27:25.502
because you are going to be coming to us, I assume,
01:27:25.502 --> 01:27:27.824
with some terms or contract
01:27:27.824 --> 01:27:29.114
or who knows what's going to happen.
01:27:29.164 --> 01:27:31.036
It'll be an action item of some sort,
01:27:31.157 --> 01:27:33.070
an update of some sort by April
01:27:33.541 --> 01:27:35.173
depending on what you are able to get done
01:27:35.173 --> 01:27:36.890
and how long you take to.
01:27:37.807 --> 01:27:40.256
There will be a need to negotiate the terms
01:27:40.256 --> 01:27:41.075
of the contract.
01:27:41.364 --> 01:27:41.889
Right.
01:27:41.889 --> 01:27:46.490
We believe we will need to further
01:27:46.782 --> 01:27:49.104
conversation with you about broader implementations.
01:27:49.253 --> 01:27:53.140
I'm not just talking about the contract terms,
01:27:53.295 --> 01:27:57.193
I'm talking about how the agency prepares to implement
01:27:57.476 --> 01:27:58.474
a different system.
01:28:00.302 --> 01:28:03.244
Not knowing what your decisions were going to be today
01:28:03.283 --> 01:28:07.118
we're not prepared to lay out all of the decisions
01:28:07.118 --> 01:28:08.577
related to implementations.
01:28:09.585 --> 01:28:11.055
We anticipate that we will do that in April.
01:28:12.507 --> 01:28:14.207
Yes, Mr. Rowley.
01:28:17.276 --> 01:28:21.496
Monica, the fee that you're talking about looking at
01:28:21.496 --> 01:28:24.015
and adjusting, is that an agency decision
01:28:24.260 --> 01:28:25.198
or a board decision?
01:28:25.870 --> 01:28:30.870
The fee is in board rule so that would be an amendment.
01:28:31.351 --> 01:28:34.636
You may recall when we first discussed the second RFP,
01:28:35.033 --> 01:28:38.902
we did let you know that there would be some additional
01:28:38.945 --> 01:28:40.169
cost to the agency
01:28:40.481 --> 01:28:43.033
because we don't have the budget to absorb those costs
01:28:43.349 --> 01:28:45.087
and because this is a fee based program,
01:28:45.583 --> 01:28:48.346
that we anticipated the need to increase that fee.
01:28:48.717 --> 01:28:51.971
That was information that we wanted to make sure you were
01:28:51.971 --> 01:28:54.590
aware of at the very beginning of this process
01:28:55.045 --> 01:28:57.235
that in order for us to be able to do this,
01:28:58.575 --> 01:29:00.273
there are going to be some costs involved
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.286
and we have to identify the funding to address
01:29:03.357 --> 01:29:04.238
those costs.
01:29:04.818 --> 01:29:07.006
We had that converstation with the committee
01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:08.469
on instruction yesterday
01:29:09.180 --> 01:29:11.550
and that item will be presented for first reading
01:29:11.550 --> 01:29:13.308
and filing authorization in April.
01:29:15.451 --> 01:29:16.635
Yes, Mr. Cortez.
01:29:19.752 --> 01:29:20.488
I have one for Monica,
01:29:20.507 --> 01:29:22.377
but let me ask legal first.
01:29:22.627 --> 01:29:27.437
It was mentioned of possibly considering the motion
01:29:28.023 --> 01:29:29.313
to offer contingencies
01:29:29.313 --> 01:29:33.903
to have everybody use the same firm
01:29:34.651 --> 01:29:37.240
for the alignment study.
01:29:38.775 --> 01:29:41.573
How does that fall within the scope
01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.064
of our current proposal?
01:29:45.879 --> 01:29:47.627
Are we falling out of the scope by now
01:29:48.318 --> 01:29:50.020
changing the rules at this point
01:29:50.569 --> 01:29:53.859
or are we still within the header of the law?
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:58.089
If that contingency were to be presented?
01:30:05.878 --> 01:30:07.845
Wouldn't it not just be easier to rebid
01:30:09.403 --> 01:30:11.922
and ask clearly what we need?
01:30:14.322 --> 01:30:17.208
While they're discussing that,
01:30:18.195 --> 01:30:21.802
what I wanted to say was, Monica,
01:30:22.241 --> 01:30:23.925
one of the things I've already spoken to you about
01:30:23.925 --> 01:30:27.378
as you're thinking about putting together whatever terms
01:30:27.684 --> 01:30:28.467
for the contract.
01:30:28.873 --> 01:30:33.873
That we have some way of looking at outcomes when it comes
01:30:34.802 --> 01:30:38.977
to the three providers that, five years out,
01:30:39.377 --> 01:30:43.688
six years out, whatever is an appropriate time to look
01:30:43.688 --> 01:30:46.516
to see if there is any variance between any of the
01:30:46.516 --> 01:30:51.516
three providers as information we can provide to consumers
01:30:52.417 --> 01:30:54.125
if there are more successful programs
01:30:54.275 --> 01:30:55.239
than other programs.
01:30:55.422 --> 01:30:56.785
Of course, we have no idea if all of them
01:30:56.785 --> 01:30:57.897
are equally successful
01:30:57.923 --> 01:30:59.947
and that will be terrific if that's what's voted on
01:31:00.103 --> 01:31:00.847
by the members.
01:31:01.034 --> 01:31:04.370
But we want to make sure we have some way of accessing outcomes
01:31:05.210 --> 01:31:08.410
based on successful passing
01:31:08.410 --> 01:31:10.081
of the high school equivalency exams.
01:31:10.661 --> 01:31:14.148
We'll certainly look at that to see what options might
01:31:14.148 --> 01:31:15.033
be available.
01:31:15.954 --> 01:31:19.775
The challenge is that you're talking about test takers
01:31:20.028 --> 01:31:23.582
who would have to agree to allow
01:31:23.957 --> 01:31:25.671
information to be collected.
01:31:27.073 --> 01:31:29.648
We would only be able to collect data to the extent
01:31:29.824 --> 01:31:32.800
that individuals were willing to allow us to collect
01:31:33.353 --> 01:31:34.222
that data
01:31:34.589 --> 01:31:36.431
and be able to track that information.
01:31:36.804 --> 01:31:38.897
We'll certainly have some conversations between now
01:31:38.897 --> 01:31:43.897
and April to see what if anything we might be able to do
01:31:44.708 --> 01:31:46.528
or test providers might be able to do.
01:31:47.973 --> 01:31:51.393
I do think it's important to point out that we do have
01:31:51.393 --> 01:31:53.088
that major barrier in place.
01:31:53.447 --> 01:31:54.116
Yeah, absolutely.
01:31:54.426 --> 01:31:56.672
As long as you guys are looking at that as fact,
01:31:56.864 --> 01:31:57.958
I think that is the important thing.
01:31:58.130 --> 01:32:00.215
Yes, Ms. Malone.
01:32:02.627 --> 01:32:03.427
Monica, do we
01:32:03.427 --> 01:32:06.930
have an idea what would be the earliest date that people
01:32:06.930 --> 01:32:10.702
could start taking, as things are right now,
01:32:11.615 --> 01:32:15.763
The earliest that students can begin taking the test?
01:32:16.694 --> 01:32:20.613
No, ma'am we don't have an idea of that today.
01:32:21.129 --> 01:32:22.075
We really need to sit down
01:32:22.075 --> 01:32:23.542
and figure that out.
01:32:24.277 --> 01:32:24.985
Thank you.
01:32:25.354 --> 01:32:25.686
Dr. Dominguez.
01:32:26.386 --> 01:32:27.450
Thank you.
01:32:28.278 --> 01:32:32.638
Now that we're not sure about the alignment to the TEKS,
01:32:33.078 --> 01:32:37.213
would it be part of the contract for us to request that they
01:32:37.591 --> 01:32:40.693
be aligned at a certain percentage to the TEKS?
01:32:41.628 --> 01:32:43.528
Is this a time to go ahead
01:32:43.528 --> 01:32:45.678
and talk about that
01:32:45.678 --> 01:32:47.690
because I would like to see them.
01:32:48.098 --> 01:32:50.453
I would not want to only be aligned 40%
01:32:50.644 --> 01:32:52.521
and the other ones 80%
01:32:52.818 --> 01:32:57.818
I think that it would be responsible of us to make sure
01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.605
that they're aligned to the TEKS
01:32:59.753 --> 01:33:01.429
at a certain percentage.
01:33:02.607 --> 01:33:04.595
I'm going to see if Christine can help
01:33:04.921 --> 01:33:06.571
with what can be done.
01:33:06.571 --> 01:33:08.374
One thing I do want to say
01:33:08.723 --> 01:33:10.840
is if you determine a percentage,
01:33:12.450 --> 01:33:14.593
you need to do that with the recognition
01:33:14.957 --> 01:33:18.120
that you may have no tests that meets that percentage.
01:33:19.076 --> 01:33:21.588
We're not in a position to provide you with a percentage
01:33:21.936 --> 01:33:23.807
to say this is where they need to meet.
01:33:27.543 --> 01:33:30.278
We had this conversation before, you didn't set a percentage
01:33:30.985 --> 01:33:33.202
in the RFP for that reason.
01:33:34.716 --> 01:33:36.875
That certainly would be a decision that the board
01:33:36.875 --> 01:33:37.604
would make.
01:33:38.580 --> 01:33:40.789
We wouldn't be able to assist you with determining
01:33:40.825 --> 01:33:42.238
what that percentage would be.
01:33:43.287 --> 01:33:45.563
Would we know by April
01:33:46.065 --> 01:33:48.546
kind of where we were with the providers
01:33:48.982 --> 01:33:50.306
on percentage alignment?
01:33:53.422 --> 01:33:55.956
We only have the information that was provide to us
01:33:56.378 --> 01:33:58.357
in the responses.
01:34:00.417 --> 01:34:02.336
You're saying the responses won't tell us?
01:34:02.577 --> 01:34:07.577
The responses are not uniformed.
01:34:09.958 --> 01:34:11.709
I thought staff had looked at this, too.
01:34:14.691 --> 01:34:15.928
The reviewers internal
01:34:15.928 --> 01:34:18.843
and external looked at the information that was provided.
01:34:20.549 --> 01:34:21.751
Okay.
01:34:22.157 --> 01:34:24.909
Yes, Mr. Bradley.
01:34:27.170 --> 01:34:30.133
Monica, my experience with RFPs and contracts
01:34:30.818 --> 01:34:33.975
go back to the PSF so I think I can ask this question,
01:34:34.791 --> 01:34:36.850
is there a termination date on these contracts?
01:34:37.021 --> 01:34:38.046
What's the lifespan?
01:34:38.625 --> 01:34:41.418
I think that's a decision that still needs to be made.
01:34:41.540 --> 01:34:43.813
That's why I was asking the question.
01:34:43.870 --> 01:34:45.498
Certainly we're not going to go 70 years.
01:34:46.931 --> 01:34:48.528
I don't know what you would decide to do.
01:34:49.612 --> 01:34:51.149
That's something we can talk about next time
01:34:52.715 --> 01:34:53.737
in April.
01:34:59.826 --> 01:35:02.046
This is the answer to Mr. Cortez's question.
01:35:02.878 --> 01:35:05.620
I want to make sure I have the question set
01:35:05.682 --> 01:35:07.199
before us correctly.
01:35:08.987 --> 01:35:12.314
The board is at this point willing to explore it
01:35:12.314 --> 01:35:13.156
moving forward
01:35:13.156 --> 01:35:15.347
with all three respondents.
01:35:15.775 --> 01:35:19.071
You want to have another level of information
01:35:19.539 --> 01:35:23.792
which is how aligned are each of the vendor's test
01:35:24.166 --> 01:35:25.193
to the TEKS.
01:35:25.723 --> 01:35:29.640
You want that information based off of one uniform
01:35:30.505 --> 01:35:31.723
third-party vendor
01:35:32.364 --> 01:35:33.992
to assess all three
01:35:34.657 --> 01:35:37.963
based on one uniform assessment.
01:35:38.320 --> 01:35:39.426
Is that correct?
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:41.205
Ok, one
01:35:41.205 --> 01:35:41.999
(inaudible)
01:35:41.999 --> 01:35:43.706
It would be all three moving forward,
01:35:44.152 --> 01:35:46.362
but then the next level is this is the information
01:35:46.362 --> 01:35:48.681
we want to discuss at the next open meeting.
01:35:48.785 --> 01:35:49.810
Is that correct?
01:35:50.700 --> 01:35:53.850
How I see that in the procurement world, it sounds like
01:35:54.052 --> 01:35:55.618
you're furthering negotiations
01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:59.982
and you are offering them the opportunity to do this.
01:36:01.208 --> 01:36:03.682
All the vendors have the opportunity to accept it
01:36:04.504 --> 01:36:05.939
and move forward with this
01:36:06.156 --> 01:36:06.864
or not.
01:36:08.180 --> 01:36:13.180
If all three agree to this next level
01:36:14.176 --> 01:36:17.598
and provide this information using one uniformed vendor,
01:36:17.708 --> 01:36:19.267
that I assume the board will have to decide
01:36:19.721 --> 01:36:20.924
on who that vendor is
01:36:21.715 --> 01:36:26.715
so they can have clear direction of where you want to go
01:36:28.149 --> 01:36:31.565
and have all that information discussed at an open meeting.
01:36:32.542 --> 01:36:33.851
They can accept it
01:36:33.851 --> 01:36:34.820
and we can move forward.
01:36:34.886 --> 01:36:37.316
If there is someone who doesn't want to accept
01:36:37.553 --> 01:36:38.628
that next level,
01:36:39.334 --> 01:36:42.543
how I see it is you have to make a determination today
01:36:43.340 --> 01:36:45.755
on the information that is brought forth already.
01:36:49.515 --> 01:36:50.603
Yes, Mr. Cortez.
01:36:50.719 --> 01:36:51.999
This is a follow up on my original question.
01:36:51.999 --> 01:36:55.194
I need to pose a question to Monica then back to counsel.
01:36:56.963 --> 01:37:01.135
Two of them did with the same firm.
01:37:01.999 --> 01:37:05.759
It's been represented by a member of our board
01:37:06.576 --> 01:37:08.044
that they used a different rubric
01:37:08.136 --> 01:37:09.787
Can you tell me what the difference is
01:37:09.977 --> 01:37:12.769
and the way they've done their analysis for each of those?
01:37:13.866 --> 01:37:14.785
I can't tell you that
01:37:14.785 --> 01:37:16.066
with any level of detail.
01:37:17.106 --> 01:37:19.223
How long have you worked in your department?
01:37:22.004 --> 01:37:27.004
I'm just trying to highlight if you're going to have
01:37:28.074 --> 01:37:29.606
a difficult time answering that question,
01:37:29.698 --> 01:37:31.339
I don't think any member of this board.
01:37:31.882 --> 01:37:32.984
May I explain why I will have
01:37:32.984 --> 01:37:33.820
a difficult time.
01:37:34.007 --> 01:37:34.645
Please.
01:37:35.123 --> 01:37:37.271
I was not on the review committee.
01:37:38.152 --> 01:37:41.080
As I mentioned before there were eight individuals
01:37:41.080 --> 01:37:42.391
who were on the review committee.
01:37:42.875 --> 01:37:44.190
I can not stand here
01:37:44.190 --> 01:37:45.936
and tell you with any level of detail
01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:48.269
because I did not review personally
01:37:48.461 --> 01:37:50.126
and score the applications.
01:37:50.126 --> 01:37:51.085
Fair enough.
01:37:51.085 --> 01:37:52.676
In subsequent review,
01:37:53.273 --> 01:37:57.443
individuals who took a look at those proposals determined
01:37:57.958 --> 01:38:02.003
that the way that information was laid out was different
01:38:02.764 --> 01:38:06.146
even though it was completed by the same firm.
01:38:07.094 --> 01:38:11.263
Ok, before I ask legal the next question,
01:38:11.585 --> 01:38:12.413
let me ask you,
01:38:12.910 --> 01:38:15.564
on you having to come back to us
01:38:16.121 --> 01:38:18.966
on possibly increasing the fees,
01:38:19.224 --> 01:38:21.454
that would only be in the instance that we bring in
01:38:21.915 --> 01:38:23.104
more than one vendor?
01:38:25.663 --> 01:38:27.561
If this body decided today only one,
01:38:28.419 --> 01:38:29.485
regardless of who,
01:38:30.585 --> 01:38:35.563
would we have a need for a price increase or not?
01:38:35.670 --> 01:38:37.059
Or only if it's multiple.
01:38:37.897 --> 01:38:39.275
I just want clarification on that.
01:38:40.219 --> 01:38:42.007
I'm not 100% certain.
01:38:43.085 --> 01:38:46.875
I do know that the system is currently set up
01:38:47.425 --> 01:38:49.904
for one battery of tests
01:38:50.987 --> 01:38:54.923
and that would look different if we had multiple tests
01:38:57.686 --> 01:39:00.277
multiple batteries that had varying numbers of tests.
01:39:01.052 --> 01:39:05.200
I would be hesitant to say that there absolute would be
01:39:05.200 --> 01:39:07.311
no increase in that state fee.
01:39:08.442 --> 01:39:10.840
That is something that we intend to have a more definitive
01:39:10.919 --> 01:39:12.997
answer for you in April.
01:39:16.853 --> 01:39:18.684
It would be more likely that if
01:39:18.684 --> 01:39:19.320
we had multiple vendors
01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:22.256
that it would assume that we're going to have
01:39:22.256 --> 01:39:23.408
a price increase?
01:39:24.221 --> 01:39:27.179
It might not necessarily be the case if we selected
01:39:27.179 --> 01:39:28.373
one of the three.
01:39:30.446 --> 01:39:31.425
That's possible.
01:39:35.178 --> 01:39:36.201
Back to legal.
01:39:37.333 --> 01:39:39.771
What you're saying is if we select all three,
01:39:40.540 --> 01:39:42.883
we're basically going into negotiations with them
01:39:43.329 --> 01:39:45.983
and saying okay we're adding an extra layer of step
01:39:46.482 --> 01:39:49.619
that wasn't in this RFP
01:39:51.055 --> 01:39:52.933
we want to negotiate that point.
01:39:53.091 --> 01:39:53.904
If you're interested
01:39:53.904 --> 01:39:55.114
you can move forward,
01:39:55.491 --> 01:39:57.038
if you're not than you won't.
01:39:57.682 --> 01:40:00.324
I just don't want it to seem as if though we're catering
01:40:00.324 --> 01:40:01.892
to one because
01:40:01.892 --> 01:40:06.143
they've been discussed as not being a superior product.
01:40:07.913 --> 01:40:09.951
I kind of have a level of concern with that.
01:40:10.251 --> 01:40:11.707
I'm ok with multiple vendors.
01:40:12.535 --> 01:40:13.811
From what I've seen,
01:40:14.556 --> 01:40:19.556
I'm okay with two of what has been presented.
01:40:19.944 --> 01:40:22.171
I'm just concerned that it's going to appear
01:40:22.550 --> 01:40:25.662
as if though we're catering to one specific one
01:40:26.522 --> 01:40:28.847
to bring them up to par, because they're not there.
01:40:29.758 --> 01:40:31.774
I just want make sure we're not crossing
01:40:32.024 --> 01:40:36.468
any shady areas here, you know?
01:40:37.085 --> 01:40:40.296
My concern is not catering to one vendor,
01:40:40.296 --> 01:40:42.628
my concern is that we have a level-playing field
01:40:43.155 --> 01:40:44.453
for all vendors.
01:40:44.480 --> 01:40:46.679
That all the same rules apply to everyone.
01:40:47.501 --> 01:40:52.285
If they knew that a certain alignment
01:40:52.502 --> 01:40:54.473
and a percentage was required
01:40:54.841 --> 01:40:57.703
and a certain vendor to do the alignment test.
01:40:59.427 --> 01:41:01.504
I don't think that was stated in the RFP.
01:41:02.349 --> 01:41:05.457
The RFP asks for alignment to certain topics.
01:41:05.970 --> 01:41:07.760
I think Algebra One and etc, etc.
01:41:07.766 --> 01:41:11.134
Monica had laid out on Wednesday.
01:41:12.211 --> 01:41:14.210
If we want to further the negotiations
01:41:15.033 --> 01:41:17.838
and have all of the vendors continue to compete
01:41:18.289 --> 01:41:19.891
and ask for additional information,
01:41:20.499 --> 01:41:24.063
I think we ask it of all three not to cater to one person
01:41:24.253 --> 01:41:27.986
but to be fair to all three with an equal request
01:41:28.625 --> 01:41:31.749
asking for an equal opportunity to access them
01:41:31.749 --> 01:41:33.518
with one uniform vendor.
01:41:33.946 --> 01:41:37.488
If we don't want to do that,
01:41:38.001 --> 01:41:40.193
and don't give them the opportunity to have that,
01:41:40.515 --> 01:41:45.515
then you can use the information that is available already.
01:41:47.332 --> 01:41:49.488
I'm not saying that we don't want to
01:41:49.847 --> 01:41:51.316
I just want to be sure that we can.
01:41:52.125 --> 01:41:53.476
There's a lot of information.
01:41:53.480 --> 01:41:56.723
There's information about different rubrics with one
01:41:57.259 --> 01:41:58.778
different company with another.
01:41:59.966 --> 01:42:03.983
If we're going to ask all of them to move forward
01:42:04.658 --> 01:42:06.292
and then we're going to tell them
01:42:06.355 --> 01:42:08.266
and you're going to use X, Y, Z company
01:42:08.429 --> 01:42:10.478
that the agency has a comfort level with
01:42:10.808 --> 01:42:13.923
or whomever to do this
01:42:14.026 --> 01:42:15.079
equating study
01:42:15.684 --> 01:42:19.760
or this analysis on their alignment,
01:42:20.641 --> 01:42:22.772
Are we also able to ask them,
01:42:24.153 --> 01:42:27.347
I just trying to get to where I'm comfortable with my vote.
01:42:27.500 --> 01:42:29.766
I want to be sure to ask this question.
01:42:33.647 --> 01:42:37.258
Are we able to ask for a specific percentage
01:42:37.516 --> 01:42:38.933
of the TEKS be met.
01:42:40.009 --> 01:42:41.938
As they move forward all three of them.
01:42:42.572 --> 01:42:43.714
You can ask,
01:42:44.060 --> 01:42:44.870
you can ask,
01:42:45.468 --> 01:42:46.236
but again,
01:42:46.512 --> 01:42:47.586
when you offer something,
01:42:48.043 --> 01:42:49.761
the other side has to accept.
01:42:50.384 --> 01:42:51.458
Also when you ask,
01:42:52.048 --> 01:42:53.862
you also need to be prepared
01:42:54.187 --> 01:42:55.740
whether or not you're asking for something
01:42:55.988 --> 01:42:58.226
that will result in a contract.
01:42:58.806 --> 01:43:00.880
If you're asking for 100% alignment,
01:43:01.334 --> 01:43:02.473
90% alignment
01:43:02.780 --> 01:43:05.307
or you're just asking for the results of a uniform
01:43:05.482 --> 01:43:06.476
alignment test,
01:43:06.892 --> 01:43:08.800
that's something that a board will have to decide.
01:43:10.243 --> 01:43:12.896
I can not tell you what that decision will be.
01:43:13.817 --> 01:43:15.595
I do have a question, Monica
01:43:15.807 --> 01:43:16.804
that I'm not understanding.
01:43:16.852 --> 01:43:19.012
On the equating study that we're doing,
01:43:19.191 --> 01:43:20.321
that was part of the contract,
01:43:21.023 --> 01:43:22.692
what's the scope of that, then?
01:43:22.692 --> 01:43:24.241
To me that's what we're talking about here.
01:43:25.031 --> 01:43:27.968
The RFP included language
01:43:28.050 --> 01:43:29.497
about an equating study
01:43:29.497 --> 01:43:30.932
and what this gets at is,
01:43:32.939 --> 01:43:34.510
I think you heard this during the presentations,
01:43:34.564 --> 01:43:36.768
the state of Texas issues the certificate
01:43:36.768 --> 01:43:37.969
of high school equivalency.
01:43:37.969 --> 01:43:38.655
Right.
01:43:38.747 --> 01:43:41.967
These are the tests that an individual would take
01:43:42.672 --> 01:43:44.598
so that a determination could be made
01:43:44.953 --> 01:43:45.947
regarding whether or not
01:43:45.947 --> 01:43:48.640
that individual has earned that certificate.
01:43:49.247 --> 01:43:52.741
If you've got a variety of batteries of tests
01:43:55.200 --> 01:43:57.813
what we've been using that has multiple parts,
01:43:57.813 --> 01:44:00.284
an English part, a Math, Science, Social Studies,
01:44:04.141 --> 01:44:08.753
those may be used in combination in different ways
01:44:08.801 --> 01:44:11.326
on different tests to determine passing
01:44:12.200 --> 01:44:15.330
then part of what the state is going to have to
01:44:15.334 --> 01:44:20.334
figure out is what constitutes passing with respect
01:44:20.478 --> 01:44:23.427
to all of the different potential variations,
01:44:24.103 --> 01:44:26.667
which is not anything that we've had to do before
01:44:27.003 --> 01:44:28.920
because there was one test
01:44:29.095 --> 01:44:33.049
there was one understanding of what would be passing
01:44:33.061 --> 01:44:37.409
to the equating study would attempt to identify
01:44:37.690 --> 01:44:39.997
what would constitute passing
01:44:40.604 --> 01:44:43.522
for each one of those different scenarios.
01:44:45.531 --> 01:44:48.745
That's strictly about the passing thing, I got you.
01:44:49.591 --> 01:44:51.350
I just wanted to make sure I understood what that was.
01:44:51.494 --> 01:44:52.446
Ms. Hardy.
01:44:52.781 --> 01:44:54.313
Yes, Monica,
01:44:54.313 --> 01:44:58.269
I would say that it's unfortunate, but the problem rests
01:44:58.269 --> 01:44:59.482
with the board
01:44:59.482 --> 01:45:02.795
for not being more specific in what we meant
01:45:02.795 --> 01:45:04.638
by the word, 'equating.'
01:45:05.111 --> 01:45:06.941
I don't want you to feel like
01:45:06.941 --> 01:45:08.320
you've let us down in any way
01:45:08.320 --> 01:45:12.677
because we did not make that particularly clear to you
01:45:13.009 --> 01:45:16.399
if we wanted percentages or scores
01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:17.528
or anything like that.
01:45:17.672 --> 01:45:20.376
It was hard when you were doing it to come up with this.
01:45:22.557 --> 01:45:23.708
If I may, I think we may be talking
01:45:23.708 --> 01:45:25.118
about equating differently.
01:45:25.321 --> 01:45:27.738
The equating study was something that we indicated
01:45:27.738 --> 01:45:30.203
we couldn't do until you made a decision.
01:45:32.241 --> 01:45:33.414
Equating to the test.
01:45:33.579 --> 01:45:34.990
Equating of the scores.
01:45:35.322 --> 01:45:38.664
The other issue is alignment to the essential knowledge
01:45:38.664 --> 01:45:39.714
and skills.
01:45:40.564 --> 01:45:44.061
That was a conversation where, I would say, is even difficult
01:45:44.061 --> 01:45:45.535
for the board to make a decision
01:45:45.535 --> 01:45:47.387
about a percentage when you didn't know what you
01:45:47.387 --> 01:45:48.666
were going to get.
01:45:50.727 --> 01:45:52.989
If you had said 100% of the text,
01:45:53.035 --> 01:45:55.096
then you may have automatically
01:45:55.096 --> 01:45:58.801
disqualified any tests that ever existed.
01:45:59.092 --> 01:46:01.468
They are two separate issues I believe.
01:46:01.484 --> 01:46:02.161
I'm sorry.
01:46:02.161 --> 01:46:03.846
I should have used the word, 'alignment,' thank you.
01:46:04.373 --> 01:46:05.567
We didn't make ourselves clear.
01:46:05.810 --> 01:46:08.141
As we're not really making ourselves clear at this moment.
01:46:08.569 --> 01:46:10.461
One of the things that I would like to point out,
01:46:14.187 --> 01:46:15.986
there are vendors right here in town,
01:46:18.492 --> 01:46:21.384
I honestly think in a good faith negotiations,
01:46:21.712 --> 01:46:23.845
all three of these companies would agree to use
01:46:23.845 --> 01:46:24.808
the same vendor.
01:46:25.182 --> 01:46:28.586
They've all made the claim that they are close in alignment
01:46:28.586 --> 01:46:33.203
it's just a peculiar rating of how the rubric is done
01:46:33.203 --> 01:46:33.954
and everything.
01:46:35.568 --> 01:46:38.668
I personally feel like such things as the price change
01:46:39.085 --> 01:46:42.947
shouldn't be such a big issue
01:46:43.088 --> 01:46:47.409
because two of the tests are so much less expensive
01:46:47.454 --> 01:46:48.635
than the other one anyway
01:46:48.709 --> 01:46:50.139
even if there were a price change
01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:54.323
it wouldn't be enough to offset the savings we would get
01:46:55.056 --> 01:46:57.161
if you chose to use a less expensive test.
01:46:57.785 --> 01:47:00.100
That's not a deal breaker for me.
01:47:01.348 --> 01:47:02.828
May I clarify?
01:47:02.828 --> 01:47:03.604
Yeah.
01:47:05.577 --> 01:47:07.339
Just to make sure that we're very clear,
01:47:07.412 --> 01:47:10.503
there's a fee that comes to the state,
01:47:11.382 --> 01:47:13.525
there's the potential for a fee that goes
01:47:13.525 --> 01:47:14.450
to the testing center
01:47:14.549 --> 01:47:15.998
and there's the cost of the test
01:47:16.340 --> 01:47:17.289
that goes to the test provider.
01:47:19.080 --> 01:47:24.080
The state portion of the fee is what comes to us regardless.
01:47:25.357 --> 01:47:27.241
That's the $13 right now?
01:47:27.241 --> 01:47:28.116
$15.
01:47:28.116 --> 01:47:29.543
$15, right.
01:47:30.527 --> 01:47:31.646
Then there's, I believe,
01:47:32.722 --> 01:47:36.258
currently $40 goes to the test center.
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:39.808
Then there's the cost of the test itself.
01:47:40.988 --> 01:47:41.747
The fact is,
01:47:41.952 --> 01:47:44.886
and it's understandable that you would have to do some
01:47:44.886 --> 01:47:47.328
changes here to accept three different tests
01:47:47.569 --> 01:47:48.940
and one a paper, pencil test
01:47:48.940 --> 01:47:50.548
as opposed to online.
01:47:51.725 --> 01:47:53.499
Test centers will need to prepare as well.
01:47:53.613 --> 01:47:55.865
I should probably mention that we're going to
01:47:55.865 --> 01:47:57.107
have to talk to them about
01:47:57.107 --> 01:48:00.405
what preparation they won't need to make in order
01:48:00.405 --> 01:48:03.597
to be able to offer whatever options you decide.
01:48:04.668 --> 01:48:07.342
Exactly, and some of them may chose to do one thing or another
01:48:08.339 --> 01:48:08.939
or neither.
01:48:08.939 --> 01:48:10.635
It's going to be their call.
01:48:13.710 --> 01:48:16.460
In the balance right now are a lot of students
01:48:16.460 --> 01:48:20.388
have been waiting for the possibility of a new test.
01:48:21.709 --> 01:48:23.245
There a lot of people on hold,
01:48:23.245 --> 01:48:24.317
you heard those people that came
01:48:24.429 --> 01:48:27.887
from my district last September.
01:48:28.504 --> 01:48:33.504
I think that it would be advantageous if we really need
01:48:33.566 --> 01:48:36.466
to see this alignment thing to the TEKS,
01:48:37.485 --> 01:48:40.475
I personally am an old, old school teacher,
01:48:40.807 --> 01:48:45.084
and I trust these people that they're not going to be trying
01:48:45.084 --> 01:48:47.341
to test kids or students
01:48:47.856 --> 01:48:50.294
over things that they wouldn't have taught
01:48:50.294 --> 01:48:54.166
and what they teach is basically the basic
01:48:54.865 --> 01:48:56.576
Math, Science, Social Studies
01:48:56.721 --> 01:49:00.123
and English that we're teaching in the schools.
01:49:00.433 --> 01:49:00.951
In other words,
01:49:00.951 --> 01:49:03.831
they're not going to go out in another area to try
01:49:03.964 --> 01:49:05.459
and teach the students
01:49:05.747 --> 01:49:06.886
and then test them on something
01:49:07.165 --> 01:49:08.986
that's not what we basically teach
01:49:09.302 --> 01:49:11.022
in the areas of the standards.
01:49:11.716 --> 01:49:13.394
May I make one distinction at the end?
01:49:13.495 --> 01:49:14.782
Yes.
01:49:14.782 --> 01:49:16.365
You may be saying what I think you're saying,
01:49:16.365 --> 01:49:17.301
but I just want to be clear
01:49:17.485 --> 01:49:19.025
I think you're talking about what's being tested,
01:49:19.025 --> 01:49:20.406
not what's being taught.
01:49:21.115 --> 01:49:25.511
Adult Basic Ed providers who do the teaching only teach,
01:49:26.136 --> 01:49:26.966
we believe,
01:49:26.970 --> 01:49:30.298
less than half of the individuals that actually go
01:49:30.298 --> 01:49:31.370
and take a test.
01:49:31.410 --> 01:49:34.204
I think what you're talking about is what is being tested,
01:49:34.937 --> 01:49:37.237
not what's being taught in an ABE program
01:49:37.237 --> 01:49:39.245
because that also is a separate issue.
01:49:39.737 --> 01:49:41.951
Yes, I am talking about what's being tested.
01:49:43.241 --> 01:49:44.765
I would prefer that we just go ahead
01:49:44.765 --> 01:49:46.229
and approve the three vendors
01:49:46.755 --> 01:49:49.118
and if we still need to negotiate
01:49:49.329 --> 01:49:54.329
some sort of uniform check for our own knowledge,
01:49:55.579 --> 01:49:59.620
I think that the three vendors would find that this business
01:49:59.620 --> 01:50:02.650
would be lucrative enough to pay for that review
01:50:03.919 --> 01:50:05.494
and the board would feel happier about
01:50:05.494 --> 01:50:07.966
its alignment with our standards.
01:50:12.386 --> 01:50:14.475
I want to go back because we had a big discussion
01:50:14.752 --> 01:50:17.842
during this whole thing about the lexile level of the test
01:50:18.718 --> 01:50:19.804
that kind of equating.
01:50:21.432 --> 01:50:22.947
Did that end up in a term
01:50:23.019 --> 01:50:24.508
because I guess I'm a little confused
01:50:24.610 --> 01:50:26.260
how did we lose that
01:50:26.938 --> 01:50:28.481
in not giving clear direction
01:50:28.951 --> 01:50:32.284
if that wasn't required to have some understanding
01:50:32.543 --> 01:50:35.126
that these tests are at the same level they're at.
01:50:37.098 --> 01:50:38.679
Did we do anything with that,
01:50:38.965 --> 01:50:39.725
or not really?
01:50:39.778 --> 01:50:40.554
I apologize.
01:50:40.559 --> 01:50:44.262
I don't remember a discussion about lexile levels
01:50:44.660 --> 01:50:46.791
specifically that's one specific thing.
01:50:47.375 --> 01:50:50.307
We had a lot of conversation about an equating study
01:50:52.174 --> 01:50:54.271
both in the decision-making phase
01:50:54.271 --> 01:50:55.955
and the approval of the RFP phase.
01:50:56.758 --> 01:50:57.781
We did make it clear
01:50:57.795 --> 01:50:59.977
that would be a step that we would undertake
01:51:00.057 --> 01:51:02.806
once you made a decision about what you wanted.
01:51:03.570 --> 01:51:05.276
I think it was probably my fault
01:51:05.389 --> 01:51:07.390
for not understanding the term, 'equating,'
01:51:07.991 --> 01:51:10.149
I didn't realize we were talking about equating of scores
01:51:10.844 --> 01:51:13.371
to make sure the scores had some equating across.
01:51:13.549 --> 01:51:15.908
I think that was probably my fault.
01:51:15.917 --> 01:51:16.927
Yes, Ms. Cargill.
01:51:19.573 --> 01:51:20.659
The only thing that I was going to say is
01:51:20.659 --> 01:51:23.343
I would personally not be comfortable
01:51:23.565 --> 01:51:28.555
saying we require that you meet 80% of the TEKS
01:51:28.555 --> 01:51:31.196
or 90%, because I would have to do that based on research.
01:51:33.277 --> 01:51:37.886
We just let the three vendors turn in how they align
01:51:37.886 --> 01:51:38.765
with the TEKS,
01:51:38.765 --> 01:51:40.606
and then make judgement after that.
01:51:40.833 --> 01:51:42.211
That's the only comment I was going to make.
01:51:42.829 --> 01:51:47.126
It would be a non-research based decision if we just said
01:51:47.126 --> 01:51:48.545
we think you should cover 80% of the TEKS
01:51:48.545 --> 01:51:49.951
and like Monica said earlier,
01:51:50.727 --> 01:51:53.519
that could knock out all of the tests, all of the vendors.
01:51:55.014 --> 01:51:58.293
Specifically we were told, but I think all of them are using the
01:51:58.293 --> 01:52:00.280
National College and Career Readiness Standards
01:52:00.418 --> 01:52:01.527
as their basis.
01:52:03.385 --> 01:52:04.785
This is a national test.
01:52:04.785 --> 01:52:06.692
It's not a Texas-specific test.
01:52:06.955 --> 01:52:08.741
If I'm saying this right, correct?
01:52:10.935 --> 01:52:12.200
You're correct that those are not
01:52:12.200 --> 01:52:13.438
Texas-based standards.
01:52:14.712 --> 01:52:15.780
Mr. Cortez.
01:52:16.921 --> 01:52:17.886
Mr. Ratliff,
01:52:17.886 --> 01:52:18.891
have you spoken?
01:52:18.891 --> 01:52:19.829
Ok, Mr. Ratliff first.
01:52:21.500 --> 01:52:23.734
I would like to add a contingency to the motion.
01:52:25.038 --> 01:52:26.300
After talking with staff,
01:52:26.300 --> 01:52:29.727
the important thing is for us to have a common rubric
01:52:30.452 --> 01:52:32.779
that lays out the percentage of TEKS coverage
01:52:32.970 --> 01:52:34.508
for those five courses.
01:52:35.137 --> 01:52:36.992
They're not as concerned about having the same vendor
01:52:37.049 --> 01:52:38.576
as they are with having the same rubric
01:52:38.576 --> 01:52:40.496
that addresses percentage of TEKS
01:52:40.496 --> 01:52:42.500
covered for those five courses only,
01:52:43.007 --> 01:52:44.750
not that subject matter generally.
01:52:46.140 --> 01:52:47.625
The motion is to approve all three,
01:52:47.781 --> 01:52:49.171
I would like to add the contingency
01:52:49.690 --> 01:52:53.625
that all three vendors provide the same rubric
01:52:54.456 --> 01:52:56.339
that details the percentage of
01:52:56.339 --> 01:53:00.057
TEKS alignment for those five specific courses.
01:53:03.791 --> 01:53:05.109
Hold on just a minute.
01:53:06.546 --> 01:53:08.896
You would like to say in addition to the recommendation
01:53:08.909 --> 01:53:11.118
would be to recommend that the State Board of Education
01:53:11.130 --> 01:53:13.370
prove all three vendors as test providers
01:53:13.370 --> 01:53:16.470
of Texas Certification
01:53:17.101 --> 01:53:18.488
of High School Equivalency, with the contingency
01:53:21.178 --> 01:53:22.633
and that
01:53:24.413 --> 01:53:28.922
The vendors provide a percentage of TEKS
01:53:28.996 --> 01:53:31.217
covered for the
01:53:31.217 --> 01:53:36.217
five specific courses listed in the RFP
01:53:42.386 --> 01:53:43.238
Just one second.
01:53:46.455 --> 01:53:47.574
Hold on just a minute.
01:53:48.197 --> 01:53:49.380
The vendors provide
01:53:49.446 --> 01:53:50.809
a percentage of TEKS covered.
01:53:52.425 --> 01:53:53.834
What was the other, Thomas?
01:53:55.517 --> 01:53:56.818
Percentage of TEKS covered.
01:53:57.283 --> 01:53:58.687
For the five courses.
01:53:59.488 --> 01:54:00.760
For each of the five.
01:54:01.269 --> 01:54:02.879
And only the five.
01:54:02.950 --> 01:54:04.210
Of the five courses.
01:54:05.654 --> 01:54:07.082
Specified in the RFP.
01:54:18.056 --> 01:54:21.236
Now, Christine did you want to address that?
01:54:21.489 --> 01:54:23.380
I just wanted to clarify that when
01:54:23.380 --> 01:54:24.326
you say, "approve,"
01:54:24.326 --> 01:54:27.483
it's approving then moving forward to be considered
01:54:28.008 --> 01:54:30.750
and it's not approving that we will enter into a contract.
01:54:31.137 --> 01:54:33.587
It's approval that all three are still in the running.
01:54:34.182 --> 01:54:37.332
I wanted to see what was the board's understanding.
01:54:39.154 --> 01:54:40.278
That's a very different vote.
01:54:43.143 --> 01:54:45.211
The recommendation was to approve.
01:54:47.255 --> 01:54:48.127
Right, can I
01:54:48.127 --> 01:54:48.914
speak to my motion?
01:54:48.914 --> 01:54:49.470
Yes.
01:54:49.849 --> 01:54:50.574
To that point,
01:54:50.574 --> 01:54:53.634
they would be approved once they provided this contingency.
01:54:53.651 --> 01:54:55.188
Once they've satisfied this contingency,
01:54:55.188 --> 01:54:56.998
we would not be setting a threshold number
01:54:57.209 --> 01:55:00.508
it's just we want to know what your number is for these
01:55:00.508 --> 01:55:02.639
five courses and only these five courses.
01:55:03.292 --> 01:55:05.286
That's the piece that we're missing from all three vendors
01:55:05.286 --> 01:55:08.332
essentially is just tell me what your alignment
01:55:08.332 --> 01:55:10.479
is with these five course that we specified.
01:55:11.002 --> 01:55:12.706
You won't have a decision after that
01:55:12.721 --> 01:55:13.724
that will change.
01:55:13.740 --> 01:55:15.669
One that information is presented.
01:55:17.258 --> 01:55:18.106
The public is aware
01:55:18.106 --> 01:55:20.178
and the board is aware of what their coverage is.
01:55:22.160 --> 01:55:23.865
So, you're not changing the approval
01:55:24.297 --> 01:55:25.234
or the recommendation,
01:55:25.241 --> 01:55:27.587
it's just that this is part of the
01:55:28.045 --> 01:55:29.382
final thing.
01:55:30.558 --> 01:55:33.771
Mr. Cortez.
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That it meet a minimum of 85% of TEKS coverage
01:55:40.532 --> 01:55:42.329
on those five specific courses.
01:55:43.633 --> 01:55:44.813
Is there a second?
01:55:48.592 --> 01:55:53.592
I think that's still being generous at 85%.
01:55:55.862 --> 01:55:57.563
The expectations should be set high.
01:55:57.844 --> 01:56:01.824
Just the other day I read an article Texas ranks 43rd
01:56:01.832 --> 01:56:02.840
in the nation.
01:56:05.296 --> 01:56:06.819
I'm sorry I can't,
01:56:07.058 --> 01:56:08.579
just like one of my colleagues mentioned,
01:56:08.580 --> 01:56:10.705
trust that they're going to do the right thing.
01:56:11.883 --> 01:56:13.609
I think it needs to be verified.
01:56:14.479 --> 01:56:19.479
I think we need to hold everybody to that high level standard.
01:56:20.203 --> 01:56:22.061
I think 85 is still low,
01:56:22.562 --> 01:56:25.242
but I think it's palpable for some of the members
01:56:25.242 --> 01:56:26.566
on this board.
01:56:32.559 --> 01:56:34.083
Yes, Mr. Ratliff.
01:56:35.116 --> 01:56:37.326
I want to stand in opposition to the amendment.
01:56:38.263 --> 01:56:39.743
I think we need to be careful here
01:56:39.743 --> 01:56:41.963
because while 85 sounds like a good number,
01:56:41.963 --> 01:56:46.963
I think nobody on this board opposes, or doesn't want these vendors
01:56:47.296 --> 01:56:48.682
to meet 100%.
01:56:48.957 --> 01:56:50.228
That would be the goal.
01:56:50.657 --> 01:56:51.879
We also have to keep in mind,
01:56:51.929 --> 01:56:53.481
these companies have a brand name.
01:56:54.506 --> 01:56:56.534
They're not going to go out there
01:56:56.534 --> 01:56:57.796
and put a garbage test in front of these students
01:56:57.796 --> 01:56:58.809
that's meaningless.
01:56:58.832 --> 01:57:00.824
When that student takes it to an employer
01:57:00.838 --> 01:57:02.804
or to an institution of higher education
01:57:03.353 --> 01:57:06.017
or whatever their purpose of taking this test,
01:57:06.726 --> 01:57:11.726
if it becomes publicly aware that that test is meaningless,
01:57:12.107 --> 01:57:13.947
that company wil not be around very long.
01:57:14.501 --> 01:57:17.683
We are dealing with three companies that have broad exposure
01:57:17.693 --> 01:57:18.760
around the country,
01:57:19.084 --> 01:57:20.629
multiple states under contract.
01:57:21.647 --> 01:57:26.470
I don't think we need to follow up on what my colleague
01:57:26.470 --> 01:57:27.267
said earlier.
01:57:27.896 --> 01:57:29.734
We're just picking a number out of thin air.
01:57:29.759 --> 01:57:30.986
We have no scientific
01:57:30.986 --> 01:57:33.245
or research basis of is 85 the right number,
01:57:33.256 --> 01:57:34.182
is 65,
01:57:34.182 --> 01:57:34.974
is 95?
01:57:35.583 --> 01:57:37.772
I think we need to trust these folks that have
01:57:37.772 --> 01:57:40.814
multiple states under contract to protect
01:57:40.814 --> 01:57:41.540
their brand name
01:57:41.540 --> 01:57:43.094
or to protect the integrity of the test.
01:57:43.794 --> 01:57:46.266
Are you addressing the 85% as well,
01:57:46.266 --> 01:57:47.055
Mr. Rowley?
01:57:54.671 --> 01:57:56.188
I'll address the 85%.
01:57:56.839 --> 01:57:57.970
I'm opposed to it.
01:57:58.376 --> 01:57:59.880
(laughter)
01:58:00.189 --> 01:58:01.496
Ok, ok.
01:58:06.489 --> 01:58:07.460
I'd like to go ahead
01:58:07.460 --> 01:58:11.014
and either pass on the 85%.
01:58:13.748 --> 01:58:15.308
Are you ready for the question?
01:58:16.605 --> 01:58:21.605
The amendment would be the original amendment
01:58:22.525 --> 01:58:24.914
to the amendment we would add the phrase,
01:58:24.914 --> 01:58:27.822
"The minimum shall be 85% alignment with Texas standards."
01:58:30.435 --> 01:58:32.725
Right, we say for each, ok.
01:58:34.844 --> 01:58:38.751
So, all those in favor of the amendment stating 85%
01:58:39.356 --> 01:58:41.782
minimum alignment with Texas standards raise your hand.
01:58:43.916 --> 01:58:45.614
All those opposed to adding that.
01:58:47.228 --> 01:58:48.426
Ok, motion fails.
01:58:49.268 --> 01:58:53.610
Now we're back to the original amendment that we're talking
01:58:53.610 --> 01:58:55.606
about which is to recommend the State Board of Education
01:58:55.606 --> 01:58:57.576
to approve all three vendors as test providers
01:58:57.576 --> 01:59:00.337
for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency
01:59:00.500 --> 01:59:05.292
and that the vendors provide a percentage of TEKS covered
01:59:05.292 --> 01:59:08.535
for each of the five courses specified in the RFP.
01:59:10.730 --> 01:59:11.892
To add these words.
01:59:18.312 --> 01:59:19.550
Yes, Mr. Rowley.
01:59:19.559 --> 01:59:20.432
Ok, so my
01:59:20.432 --> 01:59:21.781
understanding is we're now discussing
01:59:21.789 --> 01:59:23.527
and about to vote just the amendment.
01:59:23.585 --> 01:59:24.385
Just his amendment.
01:59:24.385 --> 01:59:25.542
That they provide that contingency, okay.
01:59:25.658 --> 01:59:29.581
My question to legal, Ms. Wong,
01:59:29.581 --> 01:59:34.581
is so let's say we pass the main motion,
01:59:38.486 --> 01:59:40.266
three vendors are approved
01:59:40.950 --> 01:59:44.834
and then this additional information comes forth
01:59:45.421 --> 01:59:47.228
that we're talking about in the amendment.
01:59:48.767 --> 01:59:52.034
What are we at liberty to do at that point
01:59:52.268 --> 01:59:53.950
with regard to the approval.
01:59:57.464 --> 01:59:59.044
I think also for clearer guidance
01:59:59.384 --> 02:00:00.470
if you want to offer
02:00:00.470 --> 02:00:05.389
this to the vendors is who is setting the rubric
02:00:05.513 --> 02:00:08.755
and who do they go to to have this assessment?
02:00:09.098 --> 02:00:11.638
How are you choosing that uniform vendor?
02:00:12.132 --> 02:00:16.411
I think some of those details need to be clarified as well.
02:00:17.022 --> 02:00:18.117
Aside from that,
02:00:18.154 --> 02:00:23.154
my question is, if we add this additional requirement,
02:00:25.055 --> 02:00:27.080
yet we've already approved three vendors,
02:00:27.522 --> 02:00:28.843
what is the effect of that?
02:00:29.267 --> 02:00:30.983
It more sounds like to me that this
02:00:30.983 --> 02:00:32.862
is a further negotiation.
02:00:32.909 --> 02:00:33.867
It's a counteroffer
02:00:33.867 --> 02:00:35.507
or it's an offer where they can accept it
02:00:35.507 --> 02:00:36.481
or reject it.
02:00:36.730 --> 02:00:39.012
The next level is we want to move forward
02:00:39.394 --> 02:00:40.815
with all three of you
02:00:41.317 --> 02:00:43.943
and we want you to provide this information.
02:00:44.396 --> 02:00:45.092
They can agree
02:00:45.092 --> 02:00:46.282
or they can not agree.
02:00:47.312 --> 02:00:49.746
If I'm understanding correctly
02:00:49.778 --> 02:00:52.134
and please respond to this,
02:00:52.370 --> 02:00:57.370
so if we pass the amendment that Mr. Ratliff has proposed,
02:00:57.959 --> 02:01:02.433
then by our vote today we are not approving
02:01:02.710 --> 02:01:05.044
and accepting all three vendors.
02:01:05.705 --> 02:01:07.939
We are essential saying that all three vendors are still
02:01:07.969 --> 02:01:09.277
in the running.
02:01:09.475 --> 02:01:11.701
Once you provide the additional information,
02:01:12.192 --> 02:01:17.192
we'll have another vote to decide if all three of them meet
02:01:19.734 --> 02:01:20.731
the requirements
02:01:20.785 --> 02:01:21.841
and are approved.
02:01:21.841 --> 02:01:22.734
Is that correct?
02:01:23.467 --> 02:01:24.346
I don't want to put words in
02:01:24.346 --> 02:01:25.261
Mr. Ratliff's mouth.
02:01:25.622 --> 02:01:28.870
What I'm asking legal the effect of passing
02:01:28.870 --> 02:01:30.828
this amendment by adding an additional contingency
02:01:31.249 --> 02:01:32.792
that wasn't in the RFP.
02:01:33.330 --> 02:01:34.441
Is that correct?
02:01:37.425 --> 02:01:38.283
Mr. Rowley,
02:01:38.340 --> 02:01:39.260
I'm not legal,
02:01:40.213 --> 02:01:45.213
I think our understanding is you make a determination
02:01:46.367 --> 02:01:48.522
about who you want us to move forward with.
02:01:48.892 --> 02:01:51.845
I think what Ms. Wong is trying to explain
02:01:51.845 --> 02:01:54.995
is that we can go back and say you're approved
02:01:54.995 --> 02:01:56.370
with this contingency
02:01:56.413 --> 02:01:58.652
and they can say I don't agree to that.
02:01:58.652 --> 02:02:01.172
They would pull themselves out of the running.
02:02:01.442 --> 02:02:03.424
Not that we're going to do this extra work
02:02:03.424 --> 02:02:04.716
and then come back to you
02:02:04.716 --> 02:02:07.569
and say, "is that ok?"
02:02:08.784 --> 02:02:13.784
My question is our vote today a conditional approval
02:02:13.927 --> 02:02:15.832
if we add an additional contingency?
02:02:16.641 --> 02:02:18.559
I think the board needs to be clear
02:02:20.704 --> 02:02:23.074
in the motions that they're making
02:02:23.394 --> 02:02:25.434
about what you want staff to do with this.
02:02:25.434 --> 02:02:29.948
We need to know is the intent of the board
02:02:29.948 --> 02:02:34.472
and on this motion is to approve the subject to them
02:02:34.708 --> 02:02:36.611
supplying a rubric then it doesn't matter
02:02:36.611 --> 02:02:38.196
what the results of the rubric is.
02:02:39.129 --> 02:02:42.499
Or are we entering into a second round of negotiations
02:02:42.533 --> 02:02:45.116
and coming back in April with the results of that
02:02:45.116 --> 02:02:47.089
for the board to make a decision.
02:02:47.372 --> 02:02:51.747
We don't know from the wording of
02:02:51.747 --> 02:02:52.715
The amendment.
02:02:52.715 --> 02:02:55.004
The motion what your direction is.
02:02:55.045 --> 02:02:56.220
I understand that.
02:02:56.220 --> 02:02:58.176
i think we all have that question
02:02:58.176 --> 02:02:59.794
and it's one I continue to pose.
02:02:59.969 --> 02:03:00.799
Ok.
02:03:00.799 --> 02:03:02.300
I'll try it one more time.
02:03:02.343 --> 02:03:04.546
I'll use different words to try to convey the same meaning.
02:03:07.157 --> 02:03:07.666
Do you want me to speak to the intent
02:03:07.666 --> 02:03:08.497
on the motion?
02:03:11.145 --> 02:03:15.431
What I heard in both of Von's responses
02:03:15.573 --> 02:03:18.440
is it's either a new negotiation
02:03:18.713 --> 02:03:20.944
or it's an additional contingency.
02:03:21.417 --> 02:03:22.618
Beyond that.
02:03:22.618 --> 02:03:23.968
However we clarify it.
02:03:24.154 --> 02:03:24.984
Am I hearing that correctly?
02:03:24.984 --> 02:03:27.358
The clarification is this is our final offer.
02:03:28.416 --> 02:03:31.458
We will accept all three, if all three provide us
02:03:31.458 --> 02:03:32.793
with this information
02:03:32.793 --> 02:03:33.846
and that's it.
02:03:33.846 --> 02:03:35.684
Then you have no other discussion about
02:03:35.684 --> 02:03:37.242
what that information means.
02:03:38.123 --> 02:03:41.656
That seems like what Mr. Ratliff is proposing,
02:03:41.663 --> 02:03:43.055
and he's nodding his head.
02:03:43.186 --> 02:03:46.146
The other one is, we want you to move forward
02:03:46.346 --> 02:03:47.857
with further discusssions,
02:03:48.320 --> 02:03:49.924
provide us with more information
02:03:50.146 --> 02:03:51.773
and once we get that information,
02:03:52.047 --> 02:03:54.834
we then can make another decision.
02:03:56.755 --> 02:03:57.576
Got ya.
02:03:58.079 --> 02:03:58.964
Mr. Ratliff,
02:03:58.964 --> 02:04:00.630
that seems to be a clarification
02:04:00.630 --> 02:04:01.424
of what you were trying to talk about.
02:04:01.424 --> 02:04:02.887
As the maker of the motion,
02:04:03.244 --> 02:04:04.880
the main motion is worded as,
02:04:05.234 --> 02:04:07.717
"The State Board of Education approve all three vendors
02:04:07.717 --> 02:04:08.833
as test providers."
02:04:09.798 --> 02:04:12.428
So, I'm adding, "contingent on them supplying this,
02:04:12.778 --> 02:04:13.870
they are approved."
02:04:14.006 --> 02:04:15.519
There would be no need for another vote.
02:04:15.989 --> 02:04:19.021
You are hereby approved once you turn in this last piece
02:04:19.207 --> 02:04:20.249
of information.
02:04:21.384 --> 02:04:24.695
What we need is an apples to apples comparison for public
02:04:24.695 --> 02:04:27.802
to be aware of the percentage of TEKS covered for these
02:04:27.802 --> 02:04:28.885
five subjects.
02:04:29.407 --> 02:04:30.694
So in this case,
02:04:30.949 --> 02:04:32.153
if I can say,
02:04:32.800 --> 02:04:37.551
you want an FYI, he's saying well what if I don't like
02:04:37.551 --> 02:04:38.229
what I see
02:04:38.229 --> 02:04:40.389
and now I have no recourse
02:04:40.522 --> 02:04:42.472
because we've just approved all the vendors
02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:44.196
and all they have to do is provide the grid.
02:04:44.494 --> 02:04:45.299
Madam Chair.
02:04:46.627 --> 02:04:48.663
Ms. Beltran's first
02:04:48.829 --> 02:04:49.843
and then you Mr. Bradley
02:04:49.843 --> 02:04:51.861
and that's what I've got right now.
02:04:52.325 --> 02:04:52.993
Thank you Madam Chair.
02:04:52.993 --> 02:04:54.113
I had very similar questions
02:04:54.113 --> 02:04:54.945
so thank you for asking.
02:04:55.892 --> 02:05:00.892
It seems as though if we're going to make that motion
02:05:02.232 --> 02:05:03.344
and approve that motion,
02:05:03.394 --> 02:05:05.293
I also don't see any value
02:05:05.331 --> 02:05:06.843
in having that information if we're not going to do
02:05:06.843 --> 02:05:07.940
anything with it.
02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:11.359
I would like to have that information
02:05:11.939 --> 02:05:13.172
and then have the option
02:05:13.333 --> 02:05:16.693
of saying, "okay, if one of these providers falls below
02:05:17.644 --> 02:05:19.842
50% alignment with TEKS,
02:05:20.223 --> 02:05:21.647
then they shouldn't even be in the mix."
02:05:21.647 --> 02:05:23.427
I think it's fine to have options,
02:05:23.700 --> 02:05:25.416
but I also don't want to water down
02:05:25.801 --> 02:05:26.887
what options we have.
02:05:26.887 --> 02:05:29.028
It's kind of, if we talk about charter schools
02:05:29.028 --> 02:05:30.453
and we want to give people a choice,
02:05:30.453 --> 02:05:33.432
but we don't want to give people a choice of a poor option.
02:05:33.573 --> 02:05:34.966
I don't think that's good policy,
02:05:35.345 --> 02:05:37.850
I don't think that's a good step for our community
02:05:37.850 --> 02:05:38.851
and our state.
02:05:41.875 --> 02:05:42.971
Mr. Bradley,
02:05:42.971 --> 02:05:43.503
you were next.
02:05:43.995 --> 02:05:45.052
Then, Ms. Hardy.
02:05:48.578 --> 02:05:49.742
I want to state the amendment again.
02:05:49.742 --> 02:05:51.434
I just want to make sure that we're understanding.
02:05:54.993 --> 02:05:57.072
"The recommendation is that State Board of Education
02:05:57.115 --> 02:05:59.773
approve all three vendors as test providers
02:05:59.957 --> 02:06:02.470
for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency
02:06:02.470 --> 02:06:06.831
contigent upon the vendors providing a percentage of TEKS
02:06:06.831 --> 02:06:10.137
covered for each of the five courses specified in the RFP."
02:06:10.788 --> 02:06:13.363
We're voting on just the addition of that information.
02:06:13.751 --> 02:06:15.341
It's an FYI,
02:06:17.190 --> 02:06:18.854
because we've already approved it once they provide it.
02:06:19.002 --> 02:06:20.113
Madam Chair,
02:06:20.113 --> 02:06:21.810
I think I may have a solution.
02:06:22.060 --> 02:06:23.568
Ok, Mr. Bradley.
02:06:23.568 --> 02:06:25.314
It's something we've used on the PSF.
02:06:26.173 --> 02:06:28.552
After staff having listened to all the input,
02:06:29.566 --> 02:06:32.556
we do have the authority to authorize the Commissioner
02:06:32.556 --> 02:06:33.744
to move forward
02:06:33.744 --> 02:06:34.958
and negotiate the contract.
02:06:35.296 --> 02:06:37.061
It doesn't have to come back to us.
02:06:37.139 --> 02:06:39.878
I would like to add to the end of the motion the words,
02:06:40.231 --> 02:06:42.853
"and authorize the Commissioner to negotiate
02:06:43.238 --> 02:06:44.758
acceptable contracts."
02:06:47.114 --> 02:06:48.403
Acceptable contracts?
02:06:48.790 --> 02:06:49.813
Appropriate.
02:06:50.215 --> 02:06:52.012
Okay, what's
02:06:52.012 --> 02:06:53.012
'appropriate' mean?
02:06:53.277 --> 02:06:55.207
I'm giving it to the Commissioner.
02:06:57.564 --> 02:06:58.459
Ok, but then
02:06:58.459 --> 02:06:59.363
we're not approving it,
02:06:59.363 --> 02:07:00.351
he's approving it
02:07:00.351 --> 02:07:03.253
because he's going to set the percentage of what he feels.
02:07:04.139 --> 02:07:04.741
Ok, I just
02:07:04.741 --> 02:07:05.773
want to make sure I'm understanding.
02:07:05.848 --> 02:07:08.210
We're authorizing these are the three guys
02:07:08.729 --> 02:07:09.631
we want to do business with,
02:07:09.677 --> 02:07:11.995
we put a contingency that they have to provide
02:07:11.995 --> 02:07:13.037
the information
02:07:13.384 --> 02:07:15.854
and it will be published for FYI information
02:07:15.854 --> 02:07:16.949
for the community
02:07:16.949 --> 02:07:18.693
and with that contingency,
02:07:18.774 --> 02:07:20.924
we're authorizing the Commissioner to move forward
02:07:21.112 --> 02:07:22.329
and execute contracts.
02:07:23.793 --> 02:07:24.894
And we're done.
02:07:25.509 --> 02:07:28.680
Ok, because my
02:07:28.680 --> 02:07:29.473
understanding,
02:07:29.473 --> 02:07:31.295
and, Monica, please clear this up for me,
02:07:31.562 --> 02:07:34.714
is that we are the ones who decide some of the terms
02:07:34.714 --> 02:07:36.421
of the contract as part of it.
02:07:36.763 --> 02:07:38.347
of what we're going to talk about in April.
02:07:38.543 --> 02:07:39.628
If we do this,
02:07:40.625 --> 02:07:42.144
it takes it out of our hands
02:07:42.144 --> 02:07:43.000
as I'm understanding it.
02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:43.773
Is this correct?
02:07:44.284 --> 02:07:45.985
I think Christine needs to answer that
02:07:45.998 --> 02:07:47.345
particular question,
02:07:47.611 --> 02:07:48.632
I'm sorry.
02:07:54.771 --> 02:07:56.644
He wanted to ask a question to the maker of the motion.
02:07:56.869 --> 02:07:58.518
Did you want to, too, Pat?
02:08:01.891 --> 02:08:03.077
Mine's on the motion.
02:08:03.084 --> 02:08:03.711
Ok, actually,
02:08:03.711 --> 02:08:04.474
we need a second.
02:08:04.705 --> 02:08:05.756
We got one.
02:08:05.792 --> 02:08:06.398
Oh, you
02:08:06.398 --> 02:08:07.018
did get a second.
02:08:07.018 --> 02:08:07.714
I missed it.
02:08:09.036 --> 02:08:11.626
Did you want to go back to it
02:08:11.626 --> 02:08:13.146
or did you want to ask him a question?
02:08:16.010 --> 02:08:17.547
(muffled speech)
02:08:17.547 --> 02:08:18.553
To that question, okay.
02:08:19.751 --> 02:08:22.029
Seriously, we've
02:08:22.029 --> 02:08:23.129
gone through interviews,
02:08:23.129 --> 02:08:23.847
and interviews,
02:08:23.896 --> 02:08:24.637
and interviews.
02:08:26.047 --> 02:08:26.791
Ok, that's
02:08:26.791 --> 02:08:27.320
not a question.
02:08:27.810 --> 02:08:29.486
You want to hand it over to the Commissioner?
02:08:30.750 --> 02:08:34.501
We're going to poll the board to see if they
02:08:34.501 --> 02:08:36.254
want to dispose of this once
02:08:36.254 --> 02:08:37.100
and for all.
02:08:37.452 --> 02:08:38.572
We can move on.
02:08:38.763 --> 02:08:40.160
I just speak against the motion.
02:08:40.160 --> 02:08:40.916
Speak against the motion.
02:08:40.916 --> 02:08:41.889
Ok, Ms. Hardy.
02:08:42.046 --> 02:08:47.046
It's my understanding by the motion as it is right now,
02:08:49.713 --> 02:08:52.333
we would vote on all three vendors
02:08:53.302 --> 02:08:57.450
and they simply have to provide this alignment.
02:08:58.821 --> 02:09:03.476
We would be in a position, then, to let the public know
02:09:03.476 --> 02:09:04.590
what that alignment is.
02:09:05.144 --> 02:09:08.565
If one of them came out with a 20% alignment
02:09:08.879 --> 02:09:11.327
to the standards
02:09:11.921 --> 02:09:13.626
and they chose to do that,
02:09:14.017 --> 02:09:17.833
then that would show poor judgment on their part to do it.
02:09:18.775 --> 02:09:19.695
No, because
02:09:19.695 --> 02:09:22.839
we would have put those out there.
02:09:23.370 --> 02:09:28.284
They all claim that they're up there in the 80 percentile.
02:09:37.852 --> 02:09:39.787
I think we need to go back to the original thing.
02:09:40.051 --> 02:09:40.754
Let's just go ahead
02:09:40.754 --> 02:09:41.696
and approve all three of them
02:09:41.696 --> 02:09:42.585
and go forth.
02:09:42.979 --> 02:09:43.778
Mr. Rowley.
02:09:44.120 --> 02:09:45.584
I agree with Ms. Hardy in that regard
02:09:45.930 --> 02:09:48.636
because here's the problem,
02:09:49.147 --> 02:09:53.703
we're setting up a contingency upon which
02:09:53.767 --> 02:09:56.907
we can't take action thereafter.
02:09:57.435 --> 02:09:59.409
If my understanding is they come back,
02:09:59.409 --> 02:10:00.838
one's 20%,
02:10:00.917 --> 02:10:01.945
one's 40%
02:10:02.235 --> 02:10:03.424
and one's 100%,
02:10:03.678 --> 02:10:05.047
we've proved all three.
02:10:06.106 --> 02:10:07.166
What I believe is,
02:10:07.184 --> 02:10:08.845
they're all aligned with the TEKS,
02:10:08.916 --> 02:10:11.178
ot they wouldn't have passed the RFP.
02:10:11.523 --> 02:10:12.911
They would not have qualified.
02:10:12.911 --> 02:10:15.001
They all did their test,
02:10:15.780 --> 02:10:17.503
did it on different rubrics perhaps,
02:10:17.978 --> 02:10:18.765
but they all did it
02:10:18.765 --> 02:10:20.242
and said yes we're aligned with the TEKS,
02:10:20.474 --> 02:10:21.939
we all meet your requirements.
02:10:22.494 --> 02:10:24.134
I'm ready to vote today on all three of them.
02:10:24.652 --> 02:10:26.666
If we set up this additional contingency
02:10:27.333 --> 02:10:29.993
and we don't know any contingency,
02:10:30.207 --> 02:10:31.492
we don't know the result,
02:10:31.685 --> 02:10:33.208
we don't know what that's going to look like.
02:10:33.667 --> 02:10:38.182
Why set a trap for either them or us,
02:10:38.848 --> 02:10:40.246
that we don't have to set.
02:10:40.569 --> 02:10:41.927
We can decide today.
02:10:42.296 --> 02:10:46.761
The whole purpose in this multi-vendor approach,
02:10:46.830 --> 02:10:47.887
in my opinion,
02:10:48.211 --> 02:10:51.142
is to let the market set the tone.
02:10:51.816 --> 02:10:54.623
The market gets to decide who's the best provider
02:10:54.914 --> 02:10:56.085
either on price,
02:10:56.203 --> 02:10:57.734
quality, alignment,
02:10:57.892 --> 02:10:58.954
whatever it may be.
02:10:58.954 --> 02:11:00.852
They've met the requirements,
02:11:01.509 --> 02:11:05.552
we shouldn't set up a contingency that can only bring
02:11:06.415 --> 02:11:09.121
doubt as to the decision we're making today to approve
02:11:09.121 --> 02:11:10.105
all three.
02:11:11.130 --> 02:11:13.095
Right now, we are debating.
02:11:13.432 --> 02:11:16.672
The motion before us is to add
02:11:16.715 --> 02:11:19.259
and authorize the commissioner to move forward
02:11:19.340 --> 02:11:20.549
and execute the contract.
02:11:21.415 --> 02:11:22.708
Then we'll go back to.
02:11:24.292 --> 02:11:25.409
I think we have to do his first
02:11:25.575 --> 02:11:26.365
and then yours.
02:11:26.370 --> 02:11:27.626
Yes, Mr. Bradley.
02:11:27.674 --> 02:11:29.370
I think my motion may have been in error
02:11:29.370 --> 02:11:33.717
because we had not disposed of his amendment to require the
02:11:35.843 --> 02:11:36.844
I need to withdraw mine
02:11:37.386 --> 02:11:39.355
and we need to dispose of his first amendment.
02:11:39.575 --> 02:11:40.920
Which I would like to withdraw.
02:11:41.402 --> 02:11:42.536
That would dispose of it.
02:11:43.321 --> 02:11:44.595
If there is no objection,
02:11:45.770 --> 02:11:47.318
we will withdraw Mr. Bradley's.
02:11:48.418 --> 02:11:49.624
Can we call for the vote?
02:11:50.072 --> 02:11:51.191
If there is no objection,
02:11:51.191 --> 02:11:53.022
we will withdraw Mr. Ratliff's.
02:11:53.022 --> 02:11:54.267
After the statement of Mr. Ratliff,
02:11:54.267 --> 02:11:55.307
I withdraw my amendment.
02:11:55.616 --> 02:11:56.802
(laughter)
02:11:57.282 --> 02:11:57.918
Ok, so
02:11:57.918 --> 02:11:59.895
now we're back to the main motion,
02:12:00.524 --> 02:12:02.780
but I think I had Ms. Beltran on here.
02:12:03.106 --> 02:12:04.985
Did you want to speak, Ms. Beltran?
02:12:04.985 --> 02:12:09.798
I'm a little concerned.
02:12:10.352 --> 02:12:13.447
I actually appreciated having an opportunity to
02:12:13.450 --> 02:12:14.661
see the alignment,
02:12:14.662 --> 02:12:16.493
because I think it gives us transparency.
02:12:17.170 --> 02:12:20.113
Now we're moving towards allowing all three of them
02:12:20.531 --> 02:12:23.136
to be approved without knowing what their alignment
02:12:23.136 --> 02:12:24.056
is for certain
02:12:24.382 --> 02:12:26.215
or at least comparing apples to apples,
02:12:26.628 --> 02:12:28.977
which still I believe leaves us in a bad position.
02:12:30.149 --> 02:12:34.177
Maybe they do come back with a 20% alignment,
02:12:34.983 --> 02:12:36.519
but now we're just turning a blind eye,
02:12:36.519 --> 02:12:37.528
and saying never mind
02:12:37.528 --> 02:12:39.157
we're not even going to ask the question.
02:12:46.617 --> 02:12:47.358
Yes, Ms. Hardy.
02:12:47.358 --> 02:12:50.885
Have we ever, in the past, concerned ourselves
02:12:50.885 --> 02:12:54.135
with the alignment with this adult literacy test?
02:12:56.325 --> 02:12:58.583
The answer to that is no I can tell you we haven't.
02:13:02.569 --> 02:13:03.747
Yes, Dr. Dominguez.
02:13:04.453 --> 02:13:05.938
Two wrongs don't make a right.
02:13:07.339 --> 02:13:08.564
It worked for years.
02:13:13.064 --> 02:13:17.618
The GED we all know is not at the caliber
02:13:17.618 --> 02:13:19.106
of a high school diploma.
02:13:19.546 --> 02:13:22.715
Instead of raising that bar,
02:13:23.257 --> 02:13:24.761
we're saying we don't care.
02:13:25.541 --> 02:13:27.601
We, as educators, should care.
02:13:31.960 --> 02:13:32.977
Yes, Mr. Rowley.
02:13:35.791 --> 02:13:38.750
I think most of us availed ourselves of the opportunity
02:13:38.750 --> 02:13:42.508
to look at the results of the alignment studies
02:13:42.879 --> 02:13:45.008
that were made available to us confidential,
02:13:45.008 --> 02:13:45.707
I did.
02:13:46.700 --> 02:13:50.993
What I saw was two of the three vendors,
02:13:50.993 --> 02:13:52.364
I have to be real careful here,
02:13:52.448 --> 02:13:54.601
two of the three vendors used one particular
02:13:54.656 --> 02:13:56.723
testing service
02:13:56.876 --> 02:13:58.928
or one particular alignment.
02:14:01.865 --> 02:14:03.046
Vendor, there you go.
02:14:04.526 --> 02:14:06.152
Alignment study person.
02:14:07.056 --> 02:14:08.399
The other one used a different one.
02:14:08.604 --> 02:14:11.782
But I saw the results of all three
02:14:12.678 --> 02:14:14.049
and all three,
02:14:14.302 --> 02:14:16.941
even though they were different scales,
02:14:17.660 --> 02:14:21.159
showed a very high percentage of alignment.
02:14:21.890 --> 02:14:24.951
Not only to just the five courses,
02:14:25.414 --> 02:14:28.725
by the way that we designated in the RFP,
02:14:28.794 --> 02:14:30.530
but to all the TEKS.
02:14:31.822 --> 02:14:33.057
I am comfortable
02:14:33.316 --> 02:14:37.381
and just to the extent that anyone out there listening
02:14:37.421 --> 02:14:39.714
has a question as to whether or not we're comfortable
02:14:39.724 --> 02:14:41.070
with the level of alignment
02:14:41.556 --> 02:14:45.167
based upon confidential information that we saw
02:14:45.604 --> 02:14:47.389
after signing non-disclosure agreements,
02:14:47.709 --> 02:14:50.005
I'm very comfortable that all three of them
02:14:50.005 --> 02:14:52.182
would exceed in 80% alignment.
02:14:52.638 --> 02:14:55.482
Just because we're not able to talk about it publicly,
02:14:55.636 --> 02:14:58.136
let's don't leave the impression that we don't know
02:14:58.321 --> 02:14:59.301
that they are aligned,
02:14:59.412 --> 02:15:00.347
because they are.
02:15:00.756 --> 02:15:02.810
The first place it was a requirement in our RFP
02:15:02.810 --> 02:15:04.257
and they met that requirement.
02:15:04.429 --> 02:15:05.330
In the second place,
02:15:05.403 --> 02:15:06.878
we've seen the confidential information
02:15:07.138 --> 02:15:12.016
and it more than satisfies even an 80% alignment question.
02:15:12.205 --> 02:15:14.779
There's no need to place an additional contingency.
02:15:15.364 --> 02:15:17.726
We should let the market determine who is the best
02:15:18.420 --> 02:15:19.470
test provider.
02:15:20.540 --> 02:15:22.956
Move all three for approval.
02:15:25.733 --> 02:15:27.027
Yes, Mr. Cortez.
02:15:27.408 --> 02:15:28.313
So, the original motions
02:15:28.381 --> 02:15:30.034
have all been withdrawn, right?
02:15:30.413 --> 02:15:31.094
No, no.
02:15:31.470 --> 02:15:32.668
We're at the main motion.
02:15:32.668 --> 02:15:33.830
We're back at the main motion
02:15:33.830 --> 02:15:35.803
because everything's been pulled down.
02:15:36.233 --> 02:15:38.233
Which is what came out of committee, right?
02:15:38.530 --> 02:15:39.939
The recommendation of three?
02:15:45.383 --> 02:15:46.733
For a little while I thought it was going
02:15:46.807 --> 02:15:48.635
in the right direction.
02:15:49.426 --> 02:15:50.752
I heard one of my colleagues speak
02:15:51.103 --> 02:15:53.521
and he had me kind of convinced
02:15:53.521 --> 02:15:54.279
going one way.
02:15:56.829 --> 02:15:57.390
I don't know,
02:15:57.390 --> 02:15:58.142
something happened
02:15:58.142 --> 02:15:59.195
and the dialogue changed.
02:15:59.272 --> 02:16:01.082
I would like to offer up a motion.
02:16:01.218 --> 02:16:06.218
I'm not convinced that we should just trust all the vendors
02:16:09.123 --> 02:16:11.411
and having heard legal
02:16:11.525 --> 02:16:14.369
and the phrasing of the original motion,
02:16:15.488 --> 02:16:17.709
was left vague enough that we weren't sure
02:16:18.057 --> 02:16:20.626
if okay, we pick three,
02:16:21.149 --> 02:16:22.269
we say do this,
02:16:22.626 --> 02:16:23.834
we notify the public,
02:16:23.913 --> 02:16:26.336
but we have no more say in it.
02:16:26.671 --> 02:16:28.200
That one didn't sit well with me.
02:16:28.504 --> 02:16:30.438
The other option that Von talked about
02:16:30.555 --> 02:16:32.249
where we pick the three,
02:16:32.766 --> 02:16:33.954
we set the requirement,
02:16:34.493 --> 02:16:35.428
we come back.
02:16:35.570 --> 02:16:37.165
If we're comfortable with the requirement,
02:16:37.556 --> 02:16:41.467
we move all three forward to a contract phase.
02:16:41.903 --> 02:16:43.405
If were not comfortable with the three,
02:16:43.405 --> 02:16:45.714
then this body still has the discretion
02:16:45.899 --> 02:16:47.213
to eliminate one
02:16:47.898 --> 02:16:48.706
or more.
02:16:49.926 --> 02:16:54.026
Your original motion was defeated.
02:16:54.233 --> 02:16:55.869
The one about the 85% alignment.
02:16:56.079 --> 02:16:58.371
I'm not talking about the 85% alignment
02:16:58.520 --> 02:16:59.143
at this point.
02:16:59.143 --> 02:16:59.996
I'm just saying,
02:17:00.297 --> 02:17:02.060
if we're going to go forward with all three,
02:17:04.035 --> 02:17:06.384
I don't know what staff would recommend
02:17:06.492 --> 02:17:10.054
in terms of what my colleague mentioned
02:17:10.187 --> 02:17:12.028
about having one uniform rubric.
02:17:12.579 --> 02:17:15.809
So that we can get an apple to apple study,
02:17:16.098 --> 02:17:16.918
because it's true.
02:17:16.918 --> 02:17:18.426
Ok, you
02:17:18.426 --> 02:17:20.002
need to make an amendment.
02:17:21.365 --> 02:17:23.984
I move that all three of them move forward
02:17:23.984 --> 02:17:24.790
in the process
02:17:25.720 --> 02:17:29.368
and that the agency help us identify the rubric.
02:17:29.368 --> 02:17:30.501
That's not a motion.
02:17:31.151 --> 02:17:32.278
Give me your motion.
02:17:32.458 --> 02:17:34.861
Here's where we are right now.
02:17:35.594 --> 02:17:36.387
This is what I'm trying to do.
02:17:36.387 --> 02:17:37.583
I want them to move forward.
02:17:38.010 --> 02:17:39.046
Recommending that the
02:17:39.046 --> 02:17:40.101
State Board of Education approve all three vendors
02:17:40.101 --> 02:17:41.904
as test providers for the Texas Certification
02:17:42.015 --> 02:17:43.075
of High School Equivalency.
02:17:43.148 --> 02:17:44.219
That's where we are right now.
02:17:44.416 --> 02:17:46.581
Now do you have an amendment to offer?
02:17:46.695 --> 02:17:47.312
Yes, I would
02:17:47.312 --> 02:17:48.330
like them to move forward,
02:17:48.330 --> 02:17:48.979
I don't know how I would word this maybe someone
02:17:48.979 --> 02:17:50.582
could help me,
02:17:50.582 --> 02:17:51.589
I'd like them to move forward,
02:17:52.095 --> 02:17:56.653
i'd like them to be able to present additional information
02:17:56.729 --> 02:17:58.489
that we've discussed throughout this circle
02:17:58.641 --> 02:17:59.567
for the last hour.
02:18:00.086 --> 02:18:02.519
Then when we had an opportunity to review it,
02:18:03.521 --> 02:18:05.606
if we felt that they all still met that bar,
02:18:06.735 --> 02:18:08.602
then we could pick all three of them.
02:18:09.223 --> 02:18:10.260
If they did not,
02:18:10.436 --> 02:18:11.576
then we could eliminate one
02:18:11.576 --> 02:18:12.335
or more.
02:18:12.335 --> 02:18:13.221
Okay, members,
02:18:13.221 --> 02:18:13.908
if it's okay,
02:18:13.908 --> 02:18:16.342
since it's already at this time,
02:18:16.342 --> 02:18:17.615
do you mind if we take a 10-minute break?
02:18:17.615 --> 02:18:19.478
So we can see if we can work this out
02:18:19.741 --> 02:18:21.168
and then we come back for the vote?
02:18:21.354 --> 02:18:22.167
Madam Chair?
02:18:22.236 --> 02:18:23.458
Yes, Mr. Rowley.
02:18:23.458 --> 02:18:24.914
If the member has a specific amendment
02:18:24.991 --> 02:18:25.992
and maybe it's written out
02:18:25.992 --> 02:18:26.785
we could consider it,
02:18:26.785 --> 02:18:28.256
but I'd like to call for the question.
02:18:29.053 --> 02:18:29.947
Second.
02:18:30.262 --> 02:18:30.900
Okay.
02:18:30.906 --> 02:18:32.144
She just asked for a break so I could
02:18:32.177 --> 02:18:33.644
put the amendment together.
02:18:34.608 --> 02:18:38.143
(whispers)
02:18:44.313 --> 02:18:47.324
Ok, so,
02:18:47.405 --> 02:18:51.018
you can vote no on this now
02:18:51.157 --> 02:18:53.182
and he could come back with another
02:18:53.182 --> 02:18:54.815
recommendation
02:18:55.748 --> 02:18:58.140
and then we could vote on that recommendation.
02:18:59.148 --> 02:19:00.370
Ok.
02:19:01.016 --> 02:19:01.707
Ok.
02:19:01.885 --> 02:19:02.907
Right now,
02:19:03.078 --> 02:19:04.733
the only thing before us is to,
02:19:06.311 --> 02:19:07.816
I would like to say one thing.
02:19:09.025 --> 02:19:10.255
If we can have,
02:19:10.255 --> 02:19:11.331
which we've already discussed,
02:19:11.802 --> 02:19:14.221
the issue with the outcomes measure
02:19:15.688 --> 02:19:18.810
that will answer to me a lot of the questions
02:19:18.810 --> 02:19:22.140
that we're having each one of them serve
02:19:22.172 --> 02:19:25.559
the students equally well.
02:19:26.519 --> 02:19:28.199
If we have a measure of the outcomes.
02:19:28.563 --> 02:19:29.181
In other words,
02:19:29.181 --> 02:19:31.387
what happens to the kids after they take it,
02:19:31.608 --> 02:19:32.925
pass the exam five
02:19:32.925 --> 02:19:33.931
and six years out?
02:19:33.963 --> 02:19:34.814
Are they employed,
02:19:35.314 --> 02:19:36.778
have they gotten a certification,
02:19:36.801 --> 02:19:38.037
have they gone on to college?
02:19:38.578 --> 02:19:39.478
That sort of thing.
02:19:39.626 --> 02:19:44.488
Each of the tests that we're giving
02:19:44.639 --> 02:19:49.639
are they equally handled with what happens to the students?
02:19:50.229 --> 02:19:50.935
Yes.
02:19:50.935 --> 02:19:53.318
To be clear.
02:19:53.775 --> 02:19:55.381
Parliamentary inquiry,
02:19:55.880 --> 02:19:56.826
I'm sorry.
02:19:56.826 --> 02:19:57.793
Oh, yeah,
02:19:57.793 --> 02:19:58.382
you called for the question.
02:19:58.382 --> 02:19:59.439
I'm calling for the question,
02:19:59.439 --> 02:19:59.919
it is not debatable
02:19:59.919 --> 02:20:00.930
and we're not going to have discussion.
02:20:00.930 --> 02:20:01.928
We need to poll the board and see if we're going
02:20:01.928 --> 02:20:02.865
to move forward.
02:20:03.361 --> 02:20:05.246
Was there a second to call for the question?
02:20:05.924 --> 02:20:07.347
You did? Ok.
02:20:08.265 --> 02:20:09.372
Move and seconded
02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:13.778
to recommend to order the previous question.
02:20:36.300 --> 02:20:39.183
We need two-thirds to move the previous question.
02:20:39.457 --> 02:20:40.599
All in favor,
02:20:41.136 --> 02:20:42.239
raise your hand.
02:20:42.557 --> 02:20:43.791
To move the previous question.
02:20:43.791 --> 02:20:45.043
Two-thirds is needed.
02:20:51.491 --> 02:20:52.437
All opposed,
02:20:52.437 --> 02:20:53.648
raise your hand.
02:21:43.634 --> 02:21:46.109
The motion carries. 8 to 4.
02:21:47.976 --> 02:21:50.008
Now the main motion before us
02:21:50.008 --> 02:21:51.832
is to recommend that the State Board of Education
02:21:51.910 --> 02:21:53.822
approve all three vendors as test providers
02:21:53.822 --> 02:21:56.812
for the Texas Certification of High School Equivalency.
02:21:57.145 --> 02:21:58.576
All in favor,
02:21:58.854 --> 02:21:59.775
raise your hand.
02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:08.694
All opposed,
02:22:08.776 --> 02:22:09.841
raise your hand.
02:22:15.511 --> 02:22:16.430
Motion carries.
02:22:19.107 --> 02:22:21.804
Alright, members,
02:22:21.804 --> 02:22:24.747
can we take just a 10-minute break?
02:22:24.747 --> 02:22:25.746
Then, we'll be back.
02:22:25.770 --> 02:22:26.553
Thank you.
02:36:28.229 --> 02:36:29.152
I shouldn't say that, should I?
02:36:30.332 --> 02:36:30.982
I did say that.
02:36:31.619 --> 02:36:32.318
I did,
02:36:32.423 --> 02:36:33.662
I completely messed that up.
02:36:34.615 --> 02:36:35.526
I'm so sorry.
02:36:35.778 --> 02:36:36.949
(laughter)
02:36:37.156 --> 02:36:38.225
She just jinxed it, members.
02:36:38.225 --> 02:36:39.412
I'm sorry members,
02:36:39.414 --> 02:36:40.414
I will not do that again.
02:36:40.665 --> 02:36:42.958
Number Five on the agenda
02:36:43.215 --> 02:36:44.511
and then on the notes
02:36:44.511 --> 02:36:46.369
it's what number, Mr. Ratliff?
02:36:47.872 --> 02:36:48.388
Ok, members,
02:36:48.388 --> 02:36:50.546
in the Committee of the Full Board Minutes
02:36:50.546 --> 02:36:54.586
is on page 7 in the corresponding Board book page
02:36:54.586 --> 02:36:55.811
is I-75.
02:36:56.993 --> 02:37:00.424
I'm going to move to postpone consideration of this item.
02:37:02.101 --> 02:37:03.959
I move that the State Board of Education postpone
02:37:07.106 --> 02:37:08.135
and not approve.
02:37:08.135 --> 02:37:11.028
I think you can amend it,
02:37:11.028 --> 02:37:12.811
but I think you have to give what came
02:37:12.895 --> 02:37:15.488
out of the committee recommendation.
02:37:15.627 --> 02:37:16.880
We have to do that.
02:37:16.932 --> 02:37:18.611
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
02:37:18.611 --> 02:37:19.927
I move that The State Board of Education approve
02:37:19.927 --> 02:37:20.990
the second reading
02:37:20.990 --> 02:37:22.407
and final adoption proposed amendments
02:37:22.407 --> 02:37:25.527
to 19 TAC Chapter 74: Curriculum Requirements,
02:37:25.772 --> 02:37:28.000
Subchapter B: Graduation Requirements.
02:37:29.681 --> 02:37:32.146
The actual motion is on page eight in the Board Minutes,
02:37:32.608 --> 02:37:33.674
members.
02:37:34.223 --> 02:37:35.439
The top of page eight.
02:37:43.334 --> 02:37:46.022
It's been moved to approve the second reading
02:37:46.164 --> 02:37:47.647
and final adoption proposed amendments
02:37:47.647 --> 02:37:50.455
to 19 TAC Chapter 74: Curriculum Requirements.
02:37:50.783 --> 02:37:52.473
Subchapter B: Graduation Requirements.
02:37:53.611 --> 02:37:54.656
Yes, Mr. Ratliff.
02:37:54.656 --> 02:37:57.505
I would like to move to postpone this item
02:37:57.852 --> 02:37:59.129
to the April agenda.
02:37:59.986 --> 02:38:00.899
Members, staff
02:38:01.394 --> 02:38:03.190
and some members have been talking about the issue
02:38:03.190 --> 02:38:04.638
that was raised by the charter schools
02:38:04.638 --> 02:38:07.796
on the AP sequencing for the APE English classes.
02:38:08.489 --> 02:38:10.432
Rather than trying to do it at the eleventh hour,
02:38:10.432 --> 02:38:11.912
we want to be more deliberate
02:38:11.912 --> 02:38:13.784
and make sure we do this correctly
02:38:13.910 --> 02:38:15.223
so we're going to postpone to April.
02:38:15.364 --> 02:38:16.164
Is there a second?
02:38:16.164 --> 02:38:16.776
Second.
02:38:16.973 --> 02:38:18.765
Are you ready for the question?
02:38:18.940 --> 02:38:19.696
Madam Chair.
02:38:19.864 --> 02:38:24.135
I just wanted to make you aware of one other issue
02:38:25.286 --> 02:38:27.892
that we hope we'll be able to resolve
02:38:27.910 --> 02:38:29.005
with this postponement
02:38:29.005 --> 02:38:32.490
and that's the scores on the SAT are changing.
02:38:33.699 --> 02:38:35.323
We've got reference to scores
02:38:35.566 --> 02:38:37.854
in the performance acknowledgements in this part
02:38:37.854 --> 02:38:38.743
of the rule.
02:38:39.530 --> 02:38:41.968
We have been in conversations with the college board
02:38:42.189 --> 02:38:46.501
and we don't have the ability to make a recommendation
02:38:46.502 --> 02:38:48.651
on what the new score should be right now,
02:38:48.758 --> 02:38:51.187
but they anticipate that they will be able to provide us
02:38:51.187 --> 02:38:54.271
with information after the March administration.
02:38:54.904 --> 02:38:59.426
That's a second amendment that we would likely bring forward
02:38:59.957 --> 02:39:03.408
in April for this particular set of rules.
02:39:03.446 --> 02:39:08.310
So, there are really two issues that we can get to some resolution
02:39:08.310 --> 02:39:09.425
between now and April.
02:39:11.032 --> 02:39:11.986
Ok, yes,
02:39:12.595 --> 02:39:13.377
Ms. Hardy.
02:39:13.377 --> 02:39:17.220
I thought we were hamstrung by legislation on this one.
02:39:19.531 --> 02:39:21.362
We do think there are some ways
02:39:21.503 --> 02:39:24.504
that the AP issue can be addressed.
02:39:26.210 --> 02:39:29.030
As we discuss some potential solutions,
02:39:29.121 --> 02:39:31.347
we want to make sure that there aren't any
02:39:31.385 --> 02:39:32.266
unintended consequences.
02:39:32.266 --> 02:39:36.541
This is still in line with your statutory requirements.
02:39:37.250 --> 02:39:40.593
We want to make sure that anything that we suggest
02:39:40.836 --> 02:39:42.262
for your consideration doesn't create
02:39:42.886 --> 02:39:45.209
unintended consequences.
02:39:45.590 --> 02:39:48.619
If we could just have a little bit of time to work
02:39:48.619 --> 02:39:51.211
through the two issues we believe
02:39:51.211 --> 02:39:54.051
we can bring forward a proposal in April.
02:39:55.310 --> 02:39:57.652
These rules wouldn't be affective until the start
02:39:57.652 --> 02:40:00.055
of the next school year anyway.
02:40:02.725 --> 02:40:04.465
There's not any impact
02:40:04.576 --> 02:40:06.429
because none of this would become affective
02:40:07.183 --> 02:40:09.353
upon this vote to begin with.
02:40:11.146 --> 02:40:12.302
Yes, Mr. Ratliff.
02:40:13.004 --> 02:40:13.709
Monica, if I
02:40:13.709 --> 02:40:14.947
could ask y'all, as we're looking
02:40:15.193 --> 02:40:16.930
at the SAT score realignment,
02:40:16.930 --> 02:40:18.627
I don't know if it's in the current rule
02:40:18.627 --> 02:40:19.241
or not,
02:40:19.244 --> 02:40:22.481
but many colleges do what's called, 'superscoring,'
02:40:22.777 --> 02:40:23.806
on SAT scores.
02:40:23.806 --> 02:40:26.121
That if a student take the SAT twice,
02:40:26.457 --> 02:40:27.582
they'll take the best Math
02:40:27.582 --> 02:40:28.911
and the best English
02:40:28.911 --> 02:40:32.953
and pair them for that student's SAT entrance score.
02:40:34.179 --> 02:40:36.159
With regards to the performance acknowledgement,
02:40:36.252 --> 02:40:37.299
whether or not
02:40:37.825 --> 02:40:39.107
we either have the authority to
02:40:39.107 --> 02:40:43.806
or whether it's a good idea to superscore those for purposes
02:40:43.806 --> 02:40:44.938
of that as well.
02:40:46.359 --> 02:40:47.832
We can take a look at that.
02:40:48.227 --> 02:40:49.012
That's all.
02:40:49.012 --> 02:40:50.252
Just if we can.
02:40:50.252 --> 02:40:51.123
Ok, Ms. Beltran.
02:40:51.222 --> 02:40:52.128
Thank you, Madam Chair.
02:40:52.225 --> 02:40:53.227
I just want to thank
02:40:53.227 --> 02:40:56.069
and acknowledge the testifiers who were here yesterday.
02:40:56.069 --> 02:40:57.302
Some of them are here today again.
02:40:57.375 --> 02:41:00.517
I just want to thank them for their advocacy on behalf
02:41:00.517 --> 02:41:01.418
of their students
02:41:01.418 --> 02:41:04.155
because I know that they're really interested in providing
02:41:04.155 --> 02:41:04.770
college and career
02:41:04.770 --> 02:41:06.000
readiness for their kids.
02:41:06.386 --> 02:41:08.611
One of the other things that was flagged to me
02:41:09.048 --> 02:41:10.941
because when I was having these conversations
02:41:10.941 --> 02:41:12.278
and learning more about this,
02:41:12.720 --> 02:41:15.950
I started wondering if maybe there are other sections
02:41:16.005 --> 02:41:17.624
where more courses can be added.
02:41:17.722 --> 02:41:18.958
One of the things that was flagged
02:41:18.958 --> 02:41:20.904
was in Arts and Humanities that potentially
02:41:23.556 --> 02:41:25.148
Can we also look at that
02:41:25.148 --> 02:41:27.871
and see if there's room for AP English Language.
02:41:29.464 --> 02:41:30.690
It's I-97.
02:41:31.438 --> 02:41:34.575
Just in general to have another opportunity to
02:41:34.776 --> 02:41:35.721
look through this
02:41:35.721 --> 02:41:38.069
and make sure that we're giving the school districts
02:41:38.069 --> 02:41:39.992
enough flexibility to make sure there kids are.
02:41:41.012 --> 02:41:41.849
Monica, do
02:41:41.849 --> 02:41:43.232
you know what's she's saying there?
02:41:43.232 --> 02:41:44.884
Yes, I think
02:41:44.884 --> 02:41:47.702
we would take a look at any references
02:41:47.858 --> 02:41:51.802
to these specific courses in the rule
02:41:51.896 --> 02:41:53.948
and make a recommendation accordingly.
02:41:53.948 --> 02:41:56.301
I think that's another example of where
02:41:56.301 --> 02:41:59.692
if you make a decision to take action right now,
02:41:59.990 --> 02:42:01.966
we don't always have the opportunity to look
02:42:01.966 --> 02:42:04.156
at corresponding section of the rule.
02:42:05.478 --> 02:42:06.928
We'll take a look at all of it
02:42:06.982 --> 02:42:10.342
and try to bring forward consistent recommendations
02:42:10.342 --> 02:42:11.371
in April.
02:42:11.809 --> 02:42:13.256
I just also want to thank the staff.
02:42:13.256 --> 02:42:14.002
Thank you, Monica,
02:42:14.002 --> 02:42:16.050
for taking the time to think about this more carefully.
02:42:18.276 --> 02:42:19.428
Any other questions?
02:42:19.428 --> 02:42:21.797
So, the motion before us is the motion to postpone.
02:42:22.092 --> 02:42:23.025
All those in favor,
02:42:23.025 --> 02:42:23.737
say I.
02:42:23.819 --> 02:42:24.069
I.
02:42:24.335 --> 02:42:25.141
All opposed,
02:42:25.141 --> 02:42:25.391
say no.
02:42:25.657 --> 02:42:26.419
I's have it.
02:42:26.819 --> 02:42:27.980
Ok, members.
02:42:27.980 --> 02:42:30.097
Staying on page eight in your Committee
02:42:30.097 --> 02:42:31.167
of the Full Board Minutes.
02:42:31.554 --> 02:42:34.726
The board agenda page is I-101.
02:42:36.925 --> 02:42:38.427
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
02:42:38.563 --> 02:42:40.084
I move that the State Board of Education
02:42:40.084 --> 02:42:40.958
approve for second reading
02:42:40.958 --> 02:42:43.413
and final adoption proposed new 19 TAC
02:42:43.413 --> 02:42:44.544
Chapter 113:
02:42:45.013 --> 02:42:46.349
Texas Essential Knowledge
02:42:46.383 --> 02:42:47.213
and Skills for Social Studies.
02:42:47.283 --> 02:42:48.692
Subchapter C: High School
02:42:49.280 --> 02:42:52.663
Section 113.49: Personal Financial Literacy,
02:42:52.663 --> 02:42:53.738
one half credit,
02:42:53.802 --> 02:42:55.207
Adopted 2016.
02:42:58.436 --> 02:43:00.878
Let's move to approve for second reading
02:43:00.878 --> 02:43:01.764
and final adoption
02:43:02.709 --> 02:43:04.893
and propose new 19 TAC Chapter 113
02:43:05.429 --> 02:43:06.244
Texas Essential Knowledge
02:43:06.244 --> 02:43:07.582
and Skills for Social Studies.
02:43:07.917 --> 02:43:09.583
Subchapter C: High School,
02:43:10.422 --> 02:43:12.923
113.49: Personal Financial Literacy
02:43:13.219 --> 02:43:15.392
one half credit, adopted 2016.
02:43:15.695 --> 02:43:16.994
Are you ready for the question?
02:43:17.396 --> 02:43:20.392
All those in favor say I.
02:43:20.787 --> 02:43:21.693
I.
02:43:21.693 --> 02:43:22.806
All those opposed say no.
02:43:23.021 --> 02:43:23.784
I's have it
02:43:23.784 --> 02:43:24.714
and the motions adopted.
02:43:25.552 --> 02:43:27.104
Members staying on page eight,
02:43:28.455 --> 02:43:29.433
in the minutes
02:43:29.433 --> 02:43:32.511
and this corresponds to page I-113
02:43:32.919 --> 02:43:33.745
in your board book.
02:43:34.634 --> 02:43:37.915
The actual motion is on page nine in your Committee Minutes.
02:43:39.462 --> 02:43:41.027
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
02:43:41.381 --> 02:43:42.634
I move that the State Board of Education
02:43:42.634 --> 02:43:43.884
approve for second reading
02:43:43.884 --> 02:43:46.903
and final adoption propose new 19 TAC chapter 74
02:43:46.903 --> 02:43:48.232
Curriculum Requirements,
02:43:48.232 --> 02:43:49.519
Subchapter A:
02:43:49.519 --> 02:43:50.598
Required Curriculum,
02:43:51.007 --> 02:43:53.407
Section 74.6: College and
02:43:53.407 --> 02:43:54.325
Career Readiness,
02:43:54.325 --> 02:43:55.701
and Texas Essential Knowledge
02:43:55.701 --> 02:43:56.878
and Skills alignment
02:43:57.091 --> 02:43:59.251
with an effective date of 20 days after filing
02:43:59.251 --> 02:44:00.867
as adopted with the Texas Register.
02:44:02.385 --> 02:44:04.335
It's moved to approve for second reading
02:44:04.335 --> 02:44:05.307
and final adoption.
02:44:05.312 --> 02:44:07.465
Propose new 19 TAC Chapter 74
02:44:07.635 --> 02:44:09.359
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter A:
02:44:09.360 --> 02:44:11.868
Required Curriculum, 74.6.
02:44:12.424 --> 02:44:13.550
College and Career
02:44:13.550 --> 02:44:14.224
Readiness
02:44:14.345 --> 02:44:15.424
and Texas Essential Knowledge
02:44:15.428 --> 02:44:16.348
and Skills alignment
02:44:16.351 --> 02:44:17.340
with an effective date
02:44:17.493 --> 02:44:19.387
of 20 days after filing, as adopted
02:44:19.387 --> 02:44:20.563
with the Texas Register.
02:44:21.062 --> 02:44:24.116
To set that early effective date, we need a vote
02:44:24.116 --> 02:44:25.228
of two-thirds.
02:44:26.063 --> 02:44:27.322
Are you ready for the question?
02:44:27.427 --> 02:44:28.351
All those in favor,
02:44:28.351 --> 02:44:29.285
raise your hand.
02:44:35.026 --> 02:44:35.712
All those opposed,
02:44:36.236 --> 02:44:37.418
raise your hand.
02:44:41.266 --> 02:44:42.591
There are 12 in the affirmative.
02:44:43.669 --> 02:44:44.626
The motion carries.
02:44:45.293 --> 02:44:45.956
Ok, members.
02:44:45.956 --> 02:44:47.417
On page ten in your minutes,
02:44:48.044 --> 02:44:51.332
which correspondes to page I-167
02:44:51.704 --> 02:44:52.537
in the Board book.
02:44:54.580 --> 02:44:56.231
The actual motion is on page 11.
02:44:57.599 --> 02:44:59.653
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
02:44:59.775 --> 02:45:01.075
I move that the State Board of Education
02:45:01.075 --> 02:45:03.047
approve the process for streamlining
02:45:03.152 --> 02:45:04.557
of the TEKS as amended.
02:45:09.596 --> 02:45:10.396
I'm sorry, Ms. Hardy.
02:45:10.396 --> 02:45:11.376
Did you have a question?
02:45:11.727 --> 02:45:12.368
Yes.
02:45:16.138 --> 02:45:19.763
I think this would want to be at this point that
02:45:19.763 --> 02:45:22.441
Ms. Cargill wanted me to announce that she has communicated
02:45:22.441 --> 02:45:23.759
with science folks,
02:45:23.928 --> 02:45:26.820
and they suggest streamlining the four main science subjects,
02:45:27.236 --> 02:45:28.311
not the electives.
02:45:29.511 --> 02:45:30.826
Is that where this would be talked about?
02:45:31.677 --> 02:45:33.981
I think we already gave that instruction.
02:45:34.246 --> 02:45:36.209
We agreed upon that on Wednesday.
02:45:36.209 --> 02:45:38.058
She just wanted me to make sure
02:45:38.058 --> 02:45:39.031
that was reiterated.
02:45:39.096 --> 02:45:40.611
That was the way we went with it.
02:45:41.023 --> 02:45:42.043
Members, the thing
02:45:42.043 --> 02:45:43.075
that I had asked about
02:45:43.143 --> 02:45:45.110
was the counts for the
02:45:45.110 --> 02:45:46.900
how many students are taking the courses.
02:45:48.073 --> 02:45:53.073
It indeed shows those are overwhelming the four
02:45:53.093 --> 02:45:54.449
Biology, Chemistry,
02:45:54.449 --> 02:45:55.913
Integrated Physics, and Chemistry
02:45:55.913 --> 02:45:57.505
and Physics are the courses that kids,
02:45:57.505 --> 02:45:58.742
by and large,
02:45:58.742 --> 02:45:59.732
are taking.
02:45:59.738 --> 02:46:00.874
The number are much, much
02:46:00.874 --> 02:46:01.917
lower for the other courses.
02:46:01.917 --> 02:46:04.101
It makes sense just to concentrate
02:46:04.424 --> 02:46:06.101
and get those right for the four courses.
02:46:08.056 --> 02:46:09.330
Thank you very much.
02:46:10.530 --> 02:46:12.553
The recommendation is that the Board
02:46:12.553 --> 02:46:14.882
of Education approve the process for streamlining
02:46:14.882 --> 02:46:16.153
of the TEKS, as admitted.
02:46:16.153 --> 02:46:17.425
All those in favor say I.
02:46:17.534 --> 02:46:18.055
I.
02:46:18.055 --> 02:46:19.335
All those opposed say nay.
02:46:19.335 --> 02:46:20.761
I's have it.
02:46:20.870 --> 02:46:22.200
Thank you very much.
02:46:24.514 --> 02:46:25.588
Is that it?
02:46:25.904 --> 02:46:26.975
Okay, tremendous.
02:46:26.975 --> 02:46:28.259
That was Committee of the Full Board.
02:46:28.259 --> 02:46:29.688
Now we're on Committee of Instruction.
02:46:30.936 --> 02:46:32.427
If you'll point us,
02:46:32.538 --> 02:46:33.635
if you will,
02:46:33.635 --> 02:46:34.521
Ms. Melton-Malone,
02:46:34.521 --> 02:46:37.147
to the right page on your minutes.
02:46:37.214 --> 02:46:38.663
On our minutes,
02:46:38.663 --> 02:46:41.103
it's the only one that we have for today
02:46:41.268 --> 02:46:42.322
is on page two.
02:46:43.476 --> 02:46:45.158
It is the official item
02:46:45.186 --> 02:46:46.562
of agenda in your notebook.
02:46:46.626 --> 02:46:50.534
Roman Numeral 2-21.
02:46:51.983 --> 02:46:54.030
It's agenda item number 11.
02:46:56.938 --> 02:46:57.355
I'm sorry,
02:46:57.355 --> 02:46:58.645
let me back up.
02:47:00.095 --> 02:47:03.961
It's 2-13 item agenda number 10.
02:47:04.324 --> 02:47:05.502
Number 10?
02:47:05.820 --> 02:47:06.838
Did I have it wrong?
02:47:07.599 --> 02:47:08.673
In your Board book.
02:47:08.673 --> 02:47:09.854
Got it.
02:47:10.670 --> 02:47:12.061
One behalf of the committee on instruction,
02:47:12.138 --> 02:47:14.512
I move that the State Board of Education approve
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for first reading
02:47:15.366 --> 02:47:18.895
and filing authorization propose new 19 TAC,
02:47:19.104 --> 02:47:20.254
chapter 127,
02:47:20.836 --> 02:47:22.007
Texas Essential knowledge
02:47:22.007 --> 02:47:23.596
and Skill for Career Development,
02:47:23.759 --> 02:47:25.424
Subchapter B: High School,
02:47:25.424 --> 02:47:30.043
Section 127.16: Extended Career Preparation,
02:47:30.161 --> 02:47:32.412
one credit, adopted 2016.
02:47:34.594 --> 02:47:35.567
Are you ready for the question?
02:47:35.681 --> 02:47:37.556
All those in favor say I.
02:47:37.967 --> 02:47:38.842
I.
02:47:38.842 --> 02:47:39.875
All those opposed say nay.
02:47:39.875 --> 02:47:40.962
The I's have it,
02:47:41.078 --> 02:47:42.164
and motion is adopted.
02:47:42.485 --> 02:47:45.080
Our only other thing that was an action item,
02:47:45.547 --> 02:47:47.839
did not need to come to play
02:47:48.210 --> 02:47:50.750
was withdrawn, because the agency had not received
02:47:50.750 --> 02:47:53.934
any applications for any innovative courses that needed
02:47:54.004 --> 02:47:55.293
the board's approval.
02:47:57.089 --> 02:47:57.602
Terrific.
02:47:57.673 --> 02:47:59.715
So we're moving on past 11.
02:47:59.827 --> 02:48:02.899
Item 11 on your agenda, Proposed Approval
02:48:02.968 --> 02:48:04.123
of Innovative Courses.
02:48:04.123 --> 02:48:05.218
We can go ahead
02:48:05.339 --> 02:48:06.061
and skip.
02:48:06.187 --> 02:48:08.499
Now we're on Committee on School Finance,
02:48:08.499 --> 02:48:10.405
Permanent School Fund. There were no action items
02:48:10.405 --> 02:48:12.304
as I recall, correct?
02:48:13.460 --> 02:48:14.642
Terrific.
02:48:14.757 --> 02:48:16.650
Committee on School Initiatives, Mr. Rowley.
02:48:16.763 --> 02:48:17.898
Thank you Madam Chair.
02:48:17.907 --> 02:48:22.416
This is on page two of the report
02:48:23.086 --> 02:48:25.689
on the Committee of School Initiatives minutes.
02:48:27.051 --> 02:48:29.234
It's Agenda Item Three,
02:48:30.214 --> 02:48:31.346
on page two.
02:48:32.215 --> 02:48:35.468
It's also Roman Numeral 4-45, I guess
02:48:35.474 --> 02:48:36.659
in the Board book.
02:48:38.776 --> 02:48:40.019
Everybody there?
02:48:40.550 --> 02:48:41.646
The committee recommended that the
02:48:41.764 --> 02:48:43.524
State Board of Education take no action
02:48:43.642 --> 02:48:47.511
on the proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 242
02:48:47.511 --> 02:48:48.946
Superintendent Certificate,
02:48:49.474 --> 02:48:51.400
Section 242.20.
02:48:51.517 --> 02:48:53.824
Requirements for the Issuance of the Standard
02:48:54.049 --> 02:48:55.442
Superintendent Certificate.
02:48:57.888 --> 02:48:59.326
Is there a motion to reject?
02:49:02.221 --> 02:49:03.058
Hearing none.
02:49:03.058 --> 02:49:05.082
He's got a question.
02:49:05.082 --> 02:49:06.576
I'm sorry.
02:49:06.576 --> 02:49:07.370
I'm sorry, yes, Mr. Ratliff.
02:49:07.370 --> 02:49:08.679
I have a question just for those that may not
02:49:08.679 --> 02:49:09.894
have watched the committee hearing,
02:49:09.894 --> 02:49:11.964
this was the two different pathways
02:49:12.020 --> 02:49:14.146
to the Superintendent Certificate that we
02:49:14.146 --> 02:49:15.234
rejected last time
02:49:16.049 --> 02:49:17.258
and said we wanted one,
02:49:17.258 --> 02:49:17.889
but not the other.
02:49:17.889 --> 02:49:19.341
They've dropped the one that we did not like
02:49:19.341 --> 02:49:20.865
and only brought forward the one we did like.
02:49:21.194 --> 02:49:21.881
That's exactly right.
02:49:21.881 --> 02:49:22.649
Thank you.
02:49:23.202 --> 02:49:24.831
Now this is Subpart A
02:49:24.986 --> 02:49:26.053
and not Subpart B.
02:49:26.289 --> 02:49:27.015
Thank you.
02:49:30.061 --> 02:49:30.980
Ok, terrific.
02:49:33.825 --> 02:49:34.667
Ok, hearing none.
02:49:34.667 --> 02:49:35.637
No action is taken,
02:49:35.637 --> 02:49:38.262
and the proposed amendment to 19 TAC
02:49:38.318 --> 02:49:39.315
Chapter 242:
02:49:39.315 --> 02:49:42.426
Superintendent Certificate, 242.20:
02:49:43.030 --> 02:49:44.580
Requirements for the Issuance of Standard
02:49:44.809 --> 02:49:46.067
Superintendent Certificate
02:49:46.231 --> 02:49:48.302
will take affect on February
02:49:48.841 --> 02:49:49.721
Do we have a date?
02:49:56.650 --> 02:49:57.706
Mr. Regal?
02:49:58.009 --> 02:49:59.316
Is there date?
02:50:02.160 --> 02:50:03.473
I understood there was a specific date.
02:50:04.047 --> 02:50:05.922
February 28, 2016.
02:50:07.110 --> 02:50:07.536
Ok, thank you
02:50:07.536 --> 02:50:08.488
very much.
02:50:10.534 --> 02:50:13.927
The next action item is on page three
02:50:14.307 --> 02:50:15.615
of the same minutes.
02:50:15.615 --> 02:50:17.016
It's Agenda Item Four.
02:50:18.541 --> 02:50:20.074
In which the committee recommended
02:50:20.093 --> 02:50:22.069
the State Board of Education take no action
02:50:22.069 --> 02:50:26.581
on the proposed for business 19 TAC Chapter 227: Provisions
02:50:26.657 --> 02:50:29.182
for Educator Preparation Candidates.
02:50:31.363 --> 02:50:32.671
Is there a motion to reject?
02:50:33.857 --> 02:50:35.373
We might expound on this one as well
02:50:36.152 --> 02:50:37.256
for just a moment.
02:50:37.640 --> 02:50:39.875
This was the item that came to our attention
02:50:39.890 --> 02:50:44.672
sometime back about raising the admission GPA requirement
02:50:45.310 --> 02:50:47.236
from 2.5 to 2.75.
02:50:47.986 --> 02:50:49.704
There was an ambiguity that was contained
02:50:49.704 --> 02:50:50.901
in the statute.
02:50:51.237 --> 02:50:53.551
The legislature took up that issue,
02:50:53.929 --> 02:50:55.077
cured the ambiguity,
02:50:55.407 --> 02:50:57.120
left it at 2.5,
02:50:57.551 --> 02:51:00.652
but then required that the admitting class
02:51:01.385 --> 02:51:04.627
of each of the preparation programs
02:51:05.057 --> 02:51:07.435
have an average GPA of 3.0.
02:51:12.979 --> 02:51:13.916
There you go.
02:51:17.213 --> 02:51:17.732
Ms. Hardy,
02:51:17.812 --> 02:51:18.297
did you want to speak?
02:51:18.297 --> 02:51:19.916
I'd like some clarification.
02:51:20.599 --> 02:51:23.359
How did that happen, that the legislature could do that
02:51:23.359 --> 02:51:24.322
when they're not in session?
02:51:24.322 --> 02:51:25.541
This was previous.
02:51:25.541 --> 02:51:26.447
This was sometime back.
02:51:26.542 --> 02:51:28.604
It was brought to us in a confused state?
02:51:30.536 --> 02:51:31.349
May I respond?
02:51:31.349 --> 02:51:32.604
Yes, Mr. Rowley.
02:51:32.604 --> 02:51:33.627
It came to us.
02:51:34.572 --> 02:51:36.593
There was some ambiguity
02:51:37.229 --> 02:51:39.672
that was contained in the original rule.
02:51:40.415 --> 02:51:43.423
SBEC made the determination that
02:51:43.568 --> 02:51:45.327
it should be 2.5.
02:51:45.838 --> 02:51:46.643
Clarified that,
02:51:46.683 --> 02:51:47.802
sent that to us,
02:51:48.530 --> 02:51:49.382
SBOE.
02:51:49.553 --> 02:51:51.860
We came back at 2.75.
02:51:52.824 --> 02:51:54.321
Actually rejected the rule,
02:51:54.600 --> 02:51:56.240
sent back to SBEC.
02:51:56.411 --> 02:51:57.071
In the meantime,
02:51:57.071 --> 02:51:59.720
there was a legislative session that took place,
02:52:00.025 --> 02:52:02.097
so this was a year or more ago.
02:52:02.771 --> 02:52:04.062
They came back
02:52:04.274 --> 02:52:07.640
and said, "no, 2.5 is the minimum standard,
02:52:07.923 --> 02:52:11.255
but the cohort average has to be 3.0."
02:52:12.709 --> 02:52:17.364
I'm not sure that you would be privy to know what would
02:52:17.364 --> 02:52:20.734
have caused the legislature to come up with such an idea
02:52:20.734 --> 02:52:23.704
that the group grade is the way we're going to go.
02:52:23.965 --> 02:52:26.391
Do you have any idea what their thinking,
02:52:26.391 --> 02:52:27.640
or lack thereof, was?
02:52:27.640 --> 02:52:32.640
I have no idea, but there are staff
02:52:32.654 --> 02:52:33.238
(laughter)
02:52:33.238 --> 02:52:34.294
There are staff members here.
02:52:34.605 --> 02:52:37.637
Dr. Miller and Mr. Regal.
02:52:38.094 --> 02:52:39.651
If either one would like to speak to that?
02:52:40.163 --> 02:52:42.245
It kind of smacks of everyone getting a trophy,
02:52:42.354 --> 02:52:43.153
if you ask me.
02:52:43.372 --> 02:52:44.596
There were some other provisions too
02:52:44.596 --> 02:52:45.797
about the 10%
02:52:46.086 --> 02:52:47.087
and all of that.
02:52:47.223 --> 02:52:50.187
Make sure, Dr. Miller.
02:52:50.904 --> 02:52:51.692
Yes, ma'am.
02:52:51.692 --> 02:52:54.076
In terms of the legislative intent of the 3.0,
02:52:54.989 --> 02:52:56.299
I don't have those materials with me.
02:52:56.299 --> 02:52:57.548
So I wouldn't want to speculate on that
02:52:57.548 --> 02:53:00.030
without reviewing anything they may have put forth
02:53:00.070 --> 02:53:02.734
as to why they went with the 3.0 cohort average.
02:53:04.039 --> 02:53:05.613
I think it means everybody got a trophy.
02:53:06.756 --> 02:53:08.117
Ok, is there
02:53:08.148 --> 02:53:09.615
a motion to reject?
02:53:11.420 --> 02:53:12.206
Hearing none,
02:53:12.206 --> 02:53:13.020
no action is taken.
02:53:13.020 --> 02:53:16.123
Proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 227: Provisions
02:53:16.123 --> 02:53:18.747
for the Educator Preparations Candidates
02:53:18.747 --> 02:53:21.874
will take affect on February 28, 2016.
02:53:25.971 --> 02:53:26.541
And, that's it.
02:53:26.541 --> 02:53:29.723
Members, I look forward to going to some of your districts
02:53:30.002 --> 02:53:31.300
before the next meeting
02:53:31.404 --> 02:53:32.900
and having our community conversations.
02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:34.347
I really look forward to that.
02:53:36.678 --> 02:53:37.733
Also, I wanted
02:53:37.733 --> 02:53:38.737
to make an announcement.
02:53:38.737 --> 02:53:40.042
Barbara Cargill
02:53:40.042 --> 02:53:41.098
and Pat Hardy are receiving
02:53:41.098 --> 02:53:43.425
the Texas Education Leadership and Literacy Award
02:53:46.054 --> 02:53:50.487
from the Texas Association for Literacy Education.
02:53:50.755 --> 02:53:53.310
Saturday, February 13 in San Antonio.
02:53:54.035 --> 02:53:56.911
Recognizing them for their efforts of promoting literacy
02:53:56.911 --> 02:53:57.741
for all students.
02:53:57.874 --> 02:53:58.647
Thank you very much.
02:53:58.999 --> 02:54:00.086
I believe Barbara Cargill
02:54:00.250 --> 02:54:02.236
and Thomas Ratliff, right?
02:54:03.265 --> 02:54:05.525
Are receiving an award from the Texas Music
02:54:05.755 --> 02:54:07.262
Educators Association, correct?
02:54:07.480 --> 02:54:09.293
Friday, February 12 in San Antonio.
02:54:11.022 --> 02:54:12.668
(applause)
02:54:12.668 --> 02:54:13.693
(laughter)
02:54:13.852 --> 02:54:14.436
Absolutely.
02:54:14.563 --> 02:54:15.548
Is there any other - ?
02:54:15.548 --> 02:54:16.784
Oh, we
02:54:16.807 --> 02:54:17.145
have an engagement, yes.
02:54:17.145 --> 02:54:19.093
Erica Beltran is engaged.
02:54:19.112 --> 02:54:20.039
We're excited about that.
02:54:20.662 --> 02:54:22.275
(applause)
02:54:22.297 --> 02:54:23.440
Congratulations.
02:54:24.272 --> 02:54:25.930
We should have a little bundle of joy
02:54:25.930 --> 02:54:27.348
almost next time.
02:54:28.131 --> 02:54:30.229
(laughter)
02:54:30.318 --> 02:54:32.055
(applause)
02:54:48.611 --> 02:54:49.538
Alright, members.
02:54:49.538 --> 02:54:50.771
If we have no other
02:54:50.793 --> 02:54:51.760
Madam Chair.
02:54:51.776 --> 02:54:52.502
Oh yes,
02:54:52.502 --> 02:54:52.752
I'm sorry.
02:54:53.068 --> 02:54:54.044
Ms. Monica.
02:54:54.183 --> 02:54:57.416
I was asked if we could just make a plug.
02:54:58.037 --> 02:55:00.785
We are still looking for instructional materials reviewers
02:55:00.785 --> 02:55:03.354
for Proclamation 2017.
02:55:03.425 --> 02:55:04.500
That's CTE
02:55:04.858 --> 02:55:06.587
and the Special Topics in Social Studies
02:55:07.162 --> 02:55:09.002
and languages other than English.
02:55:09.365 --> 02:55:12.119
If you would please get the word out
02:55:12.257 --> 02:55:14.706
that we're still looking for reviewers, that would
02:55:14.706 --> 02:55:15.742
be really helpful.
02:55:16.794 --> 02:55:18.691
So, we need reviewers.
02:55:19.054 --> 02:55:21.238
Would you mind sending us a reminder?
02:55:21.238 --> 02:55:23.079
We'll ask Renee to send a reminder
02:55:23.310 --> 02:55:25.479
with the link to the application again.
02:55:27.867 --> 02:55:28.677
CTE,
02:55:28.677 --> 02:55:29.912
languages other than English,
02:55:30.080 --> 02:55:31.543
Special Topics in Social Studies,
02:55:32.650 --> 02:55:34.110
and Algebraic Reasoning.
02:55:35.296 --> 02:55:36.430
We have enough for the Math.
02:55:36.655 --> 02:55:37.448
We need CTE,
02:55:37.448 --> 02:55:39.937
languages other than English, primarily.
02:55:40.889 --> 02:55:42.373
Oh, ok, ok, great.
02:55:43.218 --> 02:55:45.440
Members, if there's
02:55:45.440 --> 02:55:46.284
no other business,
02:55:46.284 --> 02:55:47.347
the meeting is adjourned.
02:55:47.347 --> 02:55:48.187
Thank you very much.
02:55:50.138 --> 02:55:50.637
(gavel bang)